/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

>>122479746
nth for dank memes and being unable to run blaneds

So, if
>I tested it a few times just in case the sun was secretly helping but it was completely pitch black dark and the solar panels had 100% red on them. I turned on my flashlight, and stared at my solar panels just in case the flashlight alone worked like the sun and that didn't work. I sat down, they powered on, and started charging my batteries. At ~200kW with 8 solar panels it's no way to power a station forever but it did charge my batteries through the night.
Should we build an array of spotlights pointed at solarpanels in a really brightroom in our ships to have an unending power source?

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3rd for LSD

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Threadly reminder that 4 clips for one autoloader is shit.
See >>122464841

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From Youtube celebrity to Markel's personal manservant. Wilcoxmongler has truly met hard times.

>>122480226
literally who

>>122480301
https://www.youtube.com/user/XocliwGaming

Xocliw. Made SE videos, was hired by Keen to make videos for them, and then became the host of their streams. Literally a failure.

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>>122479746

>>122479746
>not making your robots feel good
http://webm.land/media/P4RH.webm

>>122480970
is the latex torso sized for asian men?

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>>122481298

>>122480014
Thank you ftd math autism anon your info is helpfull

>>122480515
HURT.

>>122481298

>we will never have a proper WARP mod

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So this ugly piece of shit made orbit with 87% of the tank remaining. I only topped it off to 95% and wasted a bit because I was flying while tabbed out and went off course.

Besides the pieces it's composed of, it's carrying all the components for an assembler and refinery onboard. Current mass is 69,150 kg so it can probably take a fuck load more cargo up in one launch.

This is probably as cheap as you can possibly go for a large ship heavy lifter. I need to be some experimenting to see what a small ship is capable of getting up. I'm not even concerned with landing this thing at the moment. I just want to figure out the fastest possible route for pushing into space.

>there are people thinking blaneds is a move to get that No Man's Sky demographic

Daily reminder for all robokeks that Freejim literally nerfed glass, enforcing power creep

Also a reminder that Freejim is planning on removing tiers in favour of removing power creep and making different tiers of weapon work differently instead

Some day our legocars may become fun again

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>>122482082

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this is hard

>>122481913
Landed the same ship back at base about 350m from the launch pad. 83% left in the tank. It's a little tricky landing a tail-lander but it wasn't too hard.

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Someone on r/spaceengineers made a chart of gravity vs. altitude for the earth planet: https://www.reddit.com/r/spaceengineers/comments/3szwxa/atmosphere_and_gravity_data_for_earth_very_basic/

I got Wolfram Alpha to fit various types of curves to those numbers and got a decent looking inverse square fit:
g = -0.085859 + 376.826 / (x + 12.3596)^2
g is gravity in Gs (between 0 and 1); x is altitude in km

Then I put the new formula into my simulation program to get a new curve of required acceleration/initial velocity to escape the planet's gravity.

V = 0 -> A = 9.81
V = 100 -> A = 9.05
V = 250 -> A = 6.04
V = 350 -> A = 3.76
V = 500 -> A = 0.94
V = 572.79 -> A = 0 (escape velocity)

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>>122481913
>payload on top of a fuel tank on top of a thruster
That's the classic rocket. Kind of makes me wish there was some excuse to make it multistage.
Maybe if you carried less fuel? A detachable first stage containing hydrogen tanks and thrusters, that you detach near the upper edge of the gravity bubble and continue on with ions.
Maybe you could use those wings from that mod to make a controlled landing without the thruster.

>>122484092
Detaching the hydrogen stuff would shed a load of weight so atmospheric re-entry should be safer.

>>122483307
Less than I expected. I guess the weak but infinite-range gravity we have counts for a lot.

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>Spengies gets an update
>Everyone throws FtD into the garbage can in favour of clang

>>122484258
Yeah, but you'll have to do it without the hydrogen stuff. And if you can safely land with the ion thrusters, you could have taken off with them.
What we need is atmospheric drag.

>>122484469
Couple of atmospheric thrusters should help with landing instead of ion ones.

>>122484431
We get a new toy we play with it, we'll be back to FTD in a week.

>>122484797
Localized resources,8m shell fix and some other stuff are coming tomorrow in the devtest.

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>>122484797
>tfw you missed the recent FTD sale
>tfw you can't afford the full price
t-there's always christmas sale, r-right?

>>122484469
Anon with the rocket in question here.
At the moment I'm designing based on the assumption this will be the first lifter built on a planet start which means no platinum so no thruster components so no ion thrusters.

I want to try and get all the materials I need to boot strap mining, refining, and assembly in space in the cheapest, most efficiency, and fastest way possible.

The fact that this thing can land is useful. That means it's reusable. Otherwise I was considering it could be canabalized to build other things. I'd like to avoid staging since it looks like the with space engineers mechanics staging is incredibly wasteful.

>>122465306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABsCPwpG4KY

>>122485429
Adding on:
The entire hydrogen thruster assembly (4x small, 1x large, 1x tank) only weighs 6501.6 kg or about 9.4% of the total mass of the rocket on liftoff. Ion thrusters are heavy as fuck in comparison. A large ship large thurster is 39400 kg. One thruster is more than the entire assembly! Need to get some numbers on atmos thrusters.

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>>122479746

Marek-Haikonen dream team when.

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Cute subs.
Shame a single fuel tank won't be enough for it after engine overhaul. And because the most efficient engine blocks will need fresh air..

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>>122486325
Speaking of tunes, what does /egg/ listen to while building?
Just finished up an Assault type fighter for bullying other fighters and small capital ships.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-hb-8WzvJI

>>122488840
RUINED BY LYRICS

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I couldn't have done it with out that guy.

>>122488065
HURT

>>122488184
ME HURT

>>122490070
BLOOOOO.
>CLANG

>>122485429
>staging is incredibly wasteful
It really is. It's NEAT, though, so I'm hoping I'll find some niche for it.
And wow, I didn't know hydrogen thrusters were that light.

>>122490404
Yeah. I'm actually kinda a bit suspicious of the numbers on the wiki actually. I should double check them myself.The page on thrusters and the page for the Large Thruster have different masses listed.

>finally start making progress on planets
>setting up a moon base to get used to gravity
>Getting false readings on Silicon
>can't fucking find silicon
>Fly to the far side of the moon with scouting ship in search
>Go to fast and break cockpit on rock
>ship kills me
>med bay I put up doesn't appear on respawn menu
>all motivation sapped

Whelp, gonna be another few months before I give that a go probably

>>122490767
Why not built a small base in creative, test it thoroughly, and then switch over to survival?

>>122490767
Just turn on space master and teleport back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CnAPD39cUQ

>>122490891
Not sure if it was a matter of testing. My temp moon base was just a lone survivor type platform with the necessities on it.

Although now that I think about it I had to cannibalize the station reactor to get enough reactor components for my small scouting ship to find the silicon

>>122491051
muh dick
>tfw trees are useless in spengies

>>122491051
Fuck Trees: The tool.

>>122491051
Holy shit that looks fun.
Humanity came up with really interesting ways to rape the planet.

>>122480970
You just know someones made a robot around a sex toy to ride their dick

>>122491302
need a jungle planet to obliterate for human drilling and expansion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyv04AYbTco

>>122491051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD2V8GFqk_Y

>>122491302
>can't decorate the interior of my ship like a log cabin

FUCKING BULLSHIT

>>122491820
>mengie/spengie merge when
comfy cabin ships pls

>>122491804
>Faint CLANG in the distance.

>>122491989
muh moneys tho

>>122492114
has anyone even bought spengies aside from the preorders though?

>tfw boulders on planets regenerate like trees do

>>122492202
>spengies
meant mengies

>>122490767
>load up planet map
>in atmospheric gaybar probe thing
>12fps
>finally get to a suitable landing spot and angle to put it down
>game lags for a second to load shit
>unfreezes
>already cratered in the ground and dead

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>what are jokes

>>122491051
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9Xb6hQCxkE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o18nRGhwwVY

>>122492759
>If you can prove a robot can feel pain, then you have solved the problem of consciousness.
Destination Void soon.

>>122492759
Get told

>>122492759
The real question is when will the robot start to like the spanking.
>HURT - GOOD

>>122491536
>rape the planet
>literally planting as many, if not more, trees than we are killing
??
Hippies leave.

>tfw you keep using the incorrect shade of color
how to admin paint or paint without needing to remove/build another block?

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>>122491051
can it make like 200 per trip? I don't think so.

>>122493536
Young trees grow fast
Trees trap carbon in their trunks

Cutting down trees and planting new ones is GOOD for environment as long as there's always both old and young forest to create biological diversity.

Blanets is hard. I've wrekt all three of my small craft (a rover, a scout ship and a miner) but on the upside my mate discovered a source of uranium nearby. Currently I'm contemplating building a heavy lifter and doing manual mining until I have the resources to launch a rocket into spess with a refinery/assembler in cargo.

Once I've got a mining operation in spess going I'll make a platform in orbit and airdrop cargo containers (with antennae) to the ground base.

>>122493690
middle mouse paints a block
shift+middle mouse paints an area
shift+p selects the color of a highlighted block

>>122491051
>oh boy a thing cutting down trees lets go to the youtube comments I bet they'll think cutting down pine trees is a problem
>"Lets see, I can cut down a 1000 trees a day. But it takes how many years for a 1000 trees to grow? ...hmmmm."
I'm glad we have youtube comments to confine idiots in.

>>122493987
oh shit, I've seen this before (but alongside messages of using [] when building), guess I didn't try this while having the block out

thx

>>122491051
Related >>>/wsg/810168

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>>122494440
I barely stopped myself from responding to that one. Holy shit.

Almost as bad as the time I got called schizophrenic for not having an overblown emotional reaction to everything.

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>>122494440

Do they not understand the concept of tree farms?

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So I finally got the prototype of my large lander/mothership working.

I was going to use a mix of all three thrusters type and have VTOL but that prototype pancaked so hard most of it disintegrated.

If you use atmosphere thrusters on a large ship, make sure that its an airship meant for on planet use only.
Otherwise that shit is dead weight.

Anyway, my main concern right now is I haven't finished the aesthetics, interior and other key systems, so I'm wondering how fucking heavy its going to get.

It's sitting at around 4.8 mil mass right now.

It's got 16 large hydrogen thrusters, 8 facing down and four facing forward and back.

And then 48 small direction hydrogen thrusters with 12 pointing on both side, and 12 also pointing downward as well as up.

It has right now 8 hydrogen tanks in total, I'm worried if it has enough fuel to last more then one reentry and escape because from what my friend told me filling up even a single tank is really god damn time consuming.

Me and a buddy are probably going to fork the design at this point into two sister ships, one that is a mobile fuel hauler/mothership and one that can carry a ton of landing HABS to throw a ground base together really fast.

Think several pods that we remote control to the ground and then assemble into a surface base.

Do you guys think with the added mass of finished platting, rooms, systems and the full cargo containers it cans till fly?

And will it it have enough fuel?

>>122494440
Treehuggers are almost literally the worst kind of people. They simultaneously denounce exploitation of rainforest while complaining about how poor shit tier nations are. Maybe if they could access their fucking resources without you throwing a hissy fit every time they cut down some useless fucking tree they'd be a little richer

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>>122494931
Picture before landing

>>122494842
No.
They also think that sheep must be slaughtered for their wool.
And that gun magazines are sold full of bullets and can be used once.

>>122494931
>I haven't finished the aesthetics
You haven't started them either.

>>122495080
Woah now.
Rainforest is good.
However, it's true you can't just yell at the people in poor countries to stop cutting it down. Selling the wood and using the land for farming is necessary with human expansion.

So, you see, the hippies are looking at it the wrong way.
We need to design a machine designs for chopping humans down instead of trees to quell the human population.
Get to it engineers, chop-chop.

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>>122495261
The bridge is more or less done inside/out, just needs paint.

The ship had more pleasant shapes but I had to do several revisions after around 7 crash landings.

>>122494931
Those are some damn ugly engine nacelles, why not use the slope block to fix up those rectangles?

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>>122495104
>mfw devs wrap a single texture around a sphere

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Last pic

I haven't yet worked with hydrogen in survival, how long does it take to fill up a single tank? (let alone 8)

And I'm probably going to be adding 2-3 million more mass, do you guys think 8 downward large hydrogen thrusters with 24 downward facing small thrusters hold it up?

>>122495387
We tried that using chambers once, but the world kinda went to war over it.

>>122495387
Rainforest is irrelevant , this entire planet is not our permanent home, humans will move on and sentimentality about trees and monkeys is holding back global development. Imagine what we could with the minerals in the Amazon if fully exploited

>>122495614
Estimate your ships weight.
Make a new game in creative with a single blaned.
Fill a cargo container with your ships weight in uranium.
Put the same number of hydrogen tanks and thrusters on that cargo container.
Try and launch it and see whether or not it works.
Modify as needed.

Death stars when?

>>122495909
if I wanted to test fuel in survival how could i go about filling up the tanks without having to mine shit?

>>122495804
as cynical as this post is, it's the absolute horrifying truth

we're literally ending our own civilization by pretending to care about it. not to mention all the pointless fucking wars and shit. why can't we just into space already god damn

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>>122495804
I'll be able to answer that question when I finish my degree in rawks I hope.
Earth will work fine as one of many colonies in the future. We haven't doomed it yet.

>>122495720
I only wanted to hug everyone in the world

>>122496145
You need ice to produce hydrogen with an oxygen generator, so you'll have to mine shit anyways.
No need to feel bad about testing stuff in creative, that's part of the whole reason it exists.

>>122496145
Two ways:
1. In Creative strap on a ton of oxygen generators, they'll produce free hydrogen and fill all your tanks. Remove them then swap to Survival.

2. In Survival turn on Space Master and strap on a bunch of oxygen generators, spawn in ice with F10, micromanage the ice piles because space master is a shitty creative experience, remove them, then take off.

>>122495804
In theory if more of the earth industrialized and then put more stock in space tech, wouldn't we eventually stop damaging the biosphere in favor of asteroid and lunar mining?

It would probably be easy to replenish the soil and undo environmental damage with pure carbon asteroids and ice comets

>>122492793
Is it weird that this sort of video literally puts me to sleep? I can't keep my eye lids up, especially when watching the first one. Something about a quiet video with a foreign voiceover. Even just looking at the machine is soothing.

>tfw no space voxel game with the amount of mods and content that minecraft has

I j-just want space autism that isn't EVE

>>122496654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE3N5N-Ueng

>>122496759
>tfw no good robot engineering game with meaningful player vs player robot combat
I kind of evaded the mechwarrior stuff but nowadays it looks like it's not worth it anyway. And not enough engineering.

>>122489719
>Tumbles
That's that guy that commented on one of Marek's planet videos.
Marek got BTFO!

>>122496759
have you looked into SS13? it's not a voxel-em-up like the games here, but it's worth a look if you can handle roleplaying and extremely shitty combat.

>>122497284
Ruined by goons.

>>122497284
SS13 runs on a shitty garbage engine choking on its own piss. Even great servers lag to oblivion and it's impossible to actually communicate and do shit in that. I've tried that game so many times and just given up every time, sometimes after fucking days of desperately wanting to enjoy it

>>122497284
see
>>122497552
>>122497350
Also the UI is pretty awful but that's mostly BYOND's fault

>>122497117
Tumbles is a local fag specialized in SE

>>122497653
Oh I have no doubt it'd be an awesome game if it had a good engine behind it, but it's kind of permanently cursed as long as it's on BYOND

>>122497886
BYOND is great for small 2D multiplayer games. SS13 runs like complete and utter horseshit because it's decompiled code, that was never very good in the first place, and managed by a bunch of super ammeters.

I worked on cleaning up SS13 when it was decompiled. It was a fucking nightmare of just awful awful awful code. It still is. I know someone who contributes to try and learn how to code and the snippets he always asks me for help with are so bad I usually suggest tossing the entire piece and starting from scratch.

I haven't played it in years because I really dislike the direction it took when goonstation became the most popular branch. Except for Hobnob and a few others who played before it became popular on SA the goons are a bunch of fucking annoying dipshits.

>>122497284
X-em-up
This doesn't work for every genre and you should kill yourself.

What server do you guys play space engineers on?

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>>122498345
lmaobros

>>122498212
Yeah in cases like that it's best to start completely from scratch and just remake everything if the code is as awful and unsalvageable as that

>>122498345
None at the moment, any suggestions?

>>122480014
>>122464841

>whats the alternative to autoloaders?

beltloaders, you autistic retard. They have significantly higher fire rate. If you have enough ammo intakes, the reload will give you a much much higher DPS. If you're using 1m shells then using autoloaders is fucking stupid.

>>122496759
Is impossible to create some form of economy within Space Engineers through modding? (realizing you can and probably should reevaluate how certain ores may spawn, or adjust what/how many parts are required for specific objects, or if certain parts can only be acquired through other objectives that are not limitless mining, etc.)

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>>122497350
/tg/station all the way.

>>122497552
There's actually been a lot of progress when it comes to performance in the last year. Not only did the /tg/station guys put up newer and beefier servers, but there also was a breakthrough in BYOND coding when it comes to deletion/garbage collection.
Played a lot last week and the server held up just fine, as long as lord singuloth didn't eat the station.


Also, my newest car. Usually equipped with Plasma. Lacks some detailling, I guess, but it's my first one with a functioning "hand brake".

>>122501068

>State: Standing

>>122501068
rip in pieces

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>>122493342
>HURT MORE

>>122501068
goodnight, sweet prince

the blanet was not ready

>>122501430
Do not sexualize the robots!

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>>122501736
CLANG CLANG CLANG

>>122501068
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TK9kX-n6aBU

just discovered you can put at air vent outside set to depressurize, and it'll store oxygen while in atmosphere.

>>122493536
>tree farming
>controlling a natural process to obtain more resources
>not metaphorically raping the planet
pls

>>122503275
I bet you think drinking milk is also raping cows.

Hippies LEAVE.

>>122494931
You know what else is dead weight? Those ions.

>>122500550
>beltloaders
You consider belt-fed autoloaders as an alternative to autoloaders?

>belt-fed so much better
I'm assuming you're the same guy who touted 1:4:4, so I'll ask you to back up your claim this time.


>>122502617
>planets offer infinite oxygen
Could decompression be used for space elevators as an alternative to gravity?
A space elevator would effectively be a segmented tube, using decompression to push ships upwards against gravity.

>>122495804
If we don't truly need the planet, what possible significance could those mineral resources have?

>>122496564
The thing to remember about the mass distribution of the universe is that all the matter is planets, and asteroids are insignificant motes of dust next to them.
Well, actually all the matter is stars, and planets are insignificant motes of dust next to them, but we won't be able to mine stars for some time yet. And let's not go into dark matter.
Point is, if you can't find a natural resource on a planet, you sure as hell won't find it in deep space. At least not in high enough quantities to justify the cost of getting it. Space travel is seriously fucking expensive.

We're stuck on this planet for the foreseeable future. We'll obviously be needing materials and energy for that whole future, so leaving those trees alone indefinitely isn't much of an option, but we'll still need to learn to manage the biosphere or it's going to break. Right now, humans aren't managing the biosphere very well at all. Cutting down the rainforests isn't some kind of calculated move. They're getting cut down by whoever has the money to cut them, to make some more money. Lumber isn't necessarily more valuable than the intact rainforest could be, it's just easier to sell.

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Ions manage to work until 0.5Gs

Reminder to not slap 50 billon of them on ships if you plan on landing on a planet.

>>122505191
>Reminder to not slap 50 billon of them on ships if you plan on landing on a planet.
Thursterfags fags BTFO by G-Drives yet again.

>>122503319
>cows
>animals bred exclusively for food, with machines interfaced directly with their udders to drain the milk they secrete
>in some countries, owing to a lack of effective legislation, they are essentially kept in boxes and pumped full of antibiotics to keep their living conditions from killing them too quickly.
Man, you suck at arguing with hippies.
What are you going to defend next? Coal power? Unrestricted free market?

>>122505669
Gravity doesn't work on planets either

:^)

I really miss the "Put tags for every general on /vg/ in the OP" meme.

>>122505184
>Lumber isn't necessarily more valuable than the intact rainforest could be, it's just easier to sell.
It's a question of value now versus value later.
99% of the time, investors bitch about not getting value now regardless of what waiting could provide. It's also fairly common for the time value of money to make cashing in now more profitable in the intermediate run.

And of course, few companies are concerned with the real long term, since the people there expect to be gone by then.

>>122506159
I'd love to see them worked into sentences as misspellings and shit, not just a long list.

>>122495804
>run out of trees
>can't into colonization
>ded blaned
>ded hummies

Good luck with that

>>122505191
They work just the same regardless of gravity. It's just that their thrust-to-mass ratio isn't good enough for heavier ships.

>>122506047
Coal power is great.

How else would you expect me to get my industrial minecraft worlds going :^)

>>122506328
>>122506159
What anon said.
Working them into the title is much better.

>>122484431
Only because planets dropped, in a week we'll be back at square one. Will be like this until Keen adds something to actually do in the game.

blanet monsters when

twitch tv/miss_jamball/v/22293024?t=01h07m55s

After playing with planets for a while, I think they're actually okay.
Finicky as hell, and definitely not worth the wait, but they still add something to the game. Those big gravitational fields are a new environment to build ships in, and that's important in a game like this. To have different kinds of engineering challenges.
Maybe it wasn't a terrible idea to put them in.

space travel sure takes time when you're limited to 100 m/s.

nice meme game

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>>122508205
I just want more shit to shoot at while on planets.

And maybe more reason to actually land.
Planet only ores maybe?

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>>122504317
Notice how in my original post I said that the extra loaders make it impractical. I did the math on this and did find out that although there is no benefit to one to four to one (one feeder, 4 clips, one autoloader) there is no immediate loss either, initially capable of the same rate as one to one to one.

HOWEVER, if we take into account ammo loss over sustained firing, once the clip is empty one to four to four outperforms one to one to one by having an extra third of the fire rate.

>>122504317
Yes. Infact, to prove it, I've just done the numbers. Here a 0.50 HE round is used, std reload 22 seconds, restock every 44.

using your one to one to one loader, fire rate per block is initially 0.015042 per block. This declines to 0.007 per block at 16 autoloaders.

Your clip will eventually run dry and your one single feeder per loader will be all thats left feeding ammo at a pathetic one shell per 44 seconds, giving a fire rate of 0.007524 per second per block. Given you're using a single clip this will be your fire rate very quickly.

The best 0.50 HE beltloader configuration is to have 3 feeders on 1 clip, meaning every restock cycle, the clip is completely reloaded.

Looking up the beltloader bonus I found an advanced cannon calculator where it was taken that the belt bonus is 0.2. Testing this it seems correct, if not maybe slightly faster.

for up to 123 beltloaders the time to empty is less than time to restock.

Interestingly, the restock time is a persistent, independant clock in FTD. So if firing is started immediately after a restock, the clock on the next restock is ALREADY TICKING WHILE FIRING. so the sustained fire rate is limited by the restock rate only. Up until a retarded amount of beltloaders, the sustained fire rate INCLUDING restock per block, is always 0.013544.

So by this test, if you are going to use a 1m configuration, always use beltloaders.

>>122508542
Well, there's the idea you need organic material from planets to make oxygen farms, which would be a step in the right direction

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>one day computers will be powerful enough to run this game max settings, 4k @60FPS

>>122509242
Jokes on you, I still can't run operation flashpoint maxed out.

>>122503576
nope, the ship can hover on moons and escape a moons gravity with them and maneuver extremely well with zero hydrogen in space

in space though I like using the rear hydrogens as a booster

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>>122509242
tell AMD and Intel to stop being jews

>>122509242
is that what the game looks like with max graphics/vegetation?

>>122510890
yep, not on max AA though because that would have crashed my game

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>>122509064
Source for the 0.20 factor used in beltloaders
www red dit com /r/FromTheDepths/comments/3sig0e/protip_request_beltfed_autoloaders/

which I tested some of my cannons using my own table and this factor, which gave the correct amount of time per loader to empty the clip from restock.

Here's my table for fiddling with which also includes the one to one to one, one to four to four and one to four to one comparisons.
http://www.mediafire.com/view/m2ll318j9pi60m5/ftd_why_autoloaders_suck.xls

which if it were not for configuration issues (which I previously stated) it could be argued that the one to four to one is slightly better than one to one to one, as the fire rate is initially equal to one to one to one, and the capacity is higher so although rate will decline once one clip empties, by comparison the one to one to one will be stuck with the rate of restock once the single clip is empty. However, as stated, making a decent configuration for a stack of crosses is pretty crappy. And as shown previously, a waste of time for 1m shells, use a beltloader.

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Why are all my friends so shit /egg/.

No one wants to play space voxels with me.

>>122511425
Just add some fuckers off here, I did.

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>>122511425

You need new friends anon

I could've sworn the inventory list was cockpit > your ship's inventories > connected inventories. Why are the connected inventories now above my own ship's? I fucking hate having to scroll to the bottom now.

>harvest trees and use refinery to break down chlorophyll
>oxygen farm requires a metric fuckton of it
>give planet-exclusive resource and a use for trees in one swoop

>>122511425
>tfw your friends all play warframe
>Warframe sucks
>They think blanids online sucks

Aside from oxygen uses, I really hope wood is required for interior furnishings and can be used for a starting rudimentary power source as a tier below solar panels.

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>>122513024
That sounds retardedly inefficient when cyanobacteria exist.

>>122513024

Food and water requirements when

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>join multilayer game that friend have a base on
>it's on the moon
>end up one earth
>nigger rig a small rocket to fly to the moon
>has a small room with a med bay, refinery, ect. in case I need to stop and survive
>break out of atmosphere
>see a mothership space trucking shit to the planet
>it shoots at me
>blows the side of the rocket
>cockpit is gone and no medbay
>standing inside the life pod while the oxygen leaks out and i slowly die

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>>122511425
I have this same issue with all engineering games.

My friends just don't have the tism to keep up so they just sit there and watch me engineer the fuck out of everything while maybe building a box of their own once in a while.

Flight sims also have this.

>>122513327
video related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3QwwAPDelE

>>122513327
>Cyanobacteria
>Isn't even cyan
umm spengebabs?

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>>122513827
From Wikipedia:
>Cyanobacteria, also known as Cyanophyta, is a phylum of bacteria that obtain their energy through photosynthesis. The name "cyanobacteria" comes from the color of the bacteria (Greek: kυανός (kyanós) = blue). They are often called blue-green algae (but some consider that name a misnomer, as cyanobacteria are prokaryotic and algae should be eukaryotic, although other definitions of algae encompass prokaryotic organisms)

Basically, when they were originally defined the naming species and known related species were blue, but they come in many colors and some don't even photosynthesize.

PSA: Inivisible blocks/ships/dicks.

Verify your game cache integrity for Spengies. One of ourguys couldn't see (or interact with) large atmos. Verified, all good again.

>>122514107
>Cyanobacteria
>Not all of them are cyan
Umm spengbabs?

>>122514245
funfact; scientists suck at naming things

>>122511425
>having friends
Fucking casual normie

I love bignobinium

>>122514342
This is true. Wanna know why bonobos are called bonobos?
>The name is thought to be a misspelling on a shipping crate from the town of Bolobo on the Congo River, which was associated with the collection of chimps in the 1920s.

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>>122513209
>Mfw have Grindframe and Spengers.
>Burnout on shitterframe.
>Blanads out finally.
>Spend two days trying to optimize new fleet of ships for survival.
>Why do these fucking afterburners guzzle so much energy?
>Going to have to redesign most of my ships from the ground up.
CAN'T WAKE UP!

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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197970763051

This thing grows stronger, even when it was only seen as the flavor of the day back in april.

>MFW only 3 month to planets.
>FTW will no longer be a poor hobo ass student

FtD engine update when

also how are the new gun parts
can we make better naval guns with them compared to the old gunparts?

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>>122518730
>tfw poor hobo-ass student
>finally got like £100 saved up
>instantly buy clothes because I've worn the same shit for like at least a year
>nomoney again

At least I have my vidya games

>>122519035
>>instantly buy clothes because I've worn the same shit for like at least a year
That fucking early? That's like $212 you could have done so fucking much more with that then buy fucking clothes. You could have bought tools, you could have upgraded your machine, replaced worn parts on your car, attended to dental needs, and ounce of good weed or even (gasp) VIDYA GAEMS

>>122519035
Aren't there boxing day sales or something like that over in bongland? Just wait another couple months.

>>122519409
Man I only recently got ANY sense of a e s t h e t i c s and was stuck with incredibly mediocre/limited options clothing. Shit affects my mood so much so it's important.

>tools
???
>worn parts on your car
shit's got no issues, had it's MOT recently so
>ounce of good weed
don't 420 tho m8

I have enough VIDYA on my plate with spengies, WoW (yes I know) and Gaylo 5 currently

this is like the one time I've been able to buy shit without being obligated to replace or fix stuff

guess I'm just complaining arbitrarily

>>122519704
yea, we seem to have black friday too now apparently

that being said it's mostly on shitty stores like Adidas shit and electronic stuff so

/blog over

oh yea spes game thread... I wish hydrogen thrusters worked in creative without needing hydrogen

>>122519967
>I wish hydrogen thrusters worked in creative without needing hydrogen
They don't need hydrogen, only a valid piping to a tank.

>>122520245
Oh. Sweet, thanks, I hadn't thought to try that.

>>122519035
>instantly buy clothes because I've worn the same shit for like at least a year

God dammit annon, don't remind me that i need new cloths. Worn my shit for the last three years. I will always be a hobo.

>>122511425
Don't know why I missed this post first time I scrolled the thread, I will host poop this friday, priority is to get people from my friend list in first then it will be public.

>>122520461
Sorry friendo, I feel you.

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I last played Space Engineers on... May 15th, 2014.

What am I in for?

>>122520647
Blaneds!

>>122520647
blaneds

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Comfy achieved.

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>>122520647
BLENITS

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>>122519967
>guess I'm just complaining arbitrarily

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>>122520881
>implying

How to make ships look more aesthetic and less like a jerry rigged pile of shit only meant to be effiecient?

Am I literally unable to because I am a slav?
When building a ship, I only think of how it will operate.
Help.

>>122521385
make it a dark green box with slopes

>>122521385
lots of mmods

>>122520647
BAZINGAS

>>122521385
Ridges

Sacrifice some efficiency for pretty layout

colours

lotsaslopes

>>122521557
>Sacrifice some efficiency for pretty layout
NO

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>>122521385
MODS
Some are purely vanilla and just add longer sleeker looking sloped blocks, or pipe like bumpers for interesting greebles or making roll-cage like structures on ships.

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>>122521557
>>122521385
>he doesn't fly a flimsy skeleton with most of the equipment exposed to keep the mass light

Man designing stuff in survival makes me roleplay fucking nasa without realizing it

>>122519035
>new clothes
Only if the old ones don't fit or are damaged.

>>122526346
not that anon but
>4 pairs of underwear
>each one is torn from crotch to ass
>might as well be wearing silk loincloth
>can't find same kind anywhere
>only want comfy

>>122526979
>might as well be wearing silk loincloth
That sounds pretty fucking comfy.

>>122527221
It is but I feel so uncivilized wearing boxers as tattered as they are. Seriously, like the tears are like a foot long.

>>122527405
What you do is buy slightly larger boxers, and wear the comfy ones under the intact ones.

>tfw no one to engineer with

>>122527523
Holy shit
thats fucking briliant

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>>122527629
I know this feeling Anon.
tfw too awkward and shy to join up with a server or random people in general

>>122479746
blue

>>122527864
Is there an /egg/ spengies group?

>>122529248
literally read up.

>>122529665
>ctrl+f group
>1 result
>ctrl+f steamcommunity
>1 result

neh

>>122529947
>muh
Get on the whitelist scrub.

>>122530016
>le internal circlejerk whitelist
sasuga 4chan

>Built a classic-style rocket ship
>Hydrogen thrusters, cockpit at front
>Head out to a planet, because what else am I going to use hydrogen thrusters for
>Hovering, looking for a good place to land
>Suddenly, my speed starts climbing
>The ship is falling
>Toggle dampeners
>Toggle them again
>Try fire the thrusters manually
>Not working
>I'm out of hydrogen
>Hit surface, tail first, at around 100m/s
>The thruster assembly and hydrogen tanks explode on impact
>Cockpit survives
>I'm still alive
>Crawl free from the wreckage and take stock of my supplies
>Oxygen atmosphere, remains of ship at rest near a small self-caused crater on a snowfield
>Reactor with almost no uranium, cargo container with modest collection of rare minerals, enough scrap to build an assembler
All things considered, this landing went pretty well

>>122530194
Bravo. Better than any NASA landings we've had on other celestial bodies in the last decade.

;_;

>>122530094
>is there a group
>yes
>hurr muh circlejerk
Fuck off faggot.

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>>122530457
C'mon anon don't think you're not being a faggot here, that's just ignorant.

>>122499478
ip/website?

>>122530562
Are you one of those unrestrected PvP shitters

>>122530094
I got in, so the entry requirements can't be very high.

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Warbros Server here, copying from least ded.

Current server status: Up, but occasionally shaky.

To join up with us when planets, there's some prep work to be done. First of all, you need to get into the group. To do so, message Ced23Ric on Steam. This guy: http://steamcommunity.com/id/ced23ric

Also, to save yourself some loadtime, preload our mods.
You can subscribe the to collection here: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=375603526
There is a preload world (offline, creative) which you should start once to prod all mods to download: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=529237944
You can also use that for offline building, blueprinting and then building on the serbian later. I don't care if you want this server to be vanila, it won't be. It's a shitload of mods, but they have been weighted and tested and they work. Half of them are tweaks and visual shit (no beacon glare, for example) anyway.

You will be invited to a group called "Warbros Space Engineers". That group works as a whitelist. Only people in that group will be able to join the server. That is so I can control better who has access and we don't get unwashed pubbies.

Quick rule overview:
- Don't be a dick.
- No megalomanic superbuilds, use offine creative for that.
- No grid spam, every ship/thing you build is a calculated physics object that eats performance. So, no drone swarms, eh?
- PvP is opt-in between two (or more) consenting parties. No ifs, no butts.
- Only one drill per player. Take the Large Ship Earthbreaker, it's a good drill. Why? Drilling kills the game for everyone. Simu speed drops like a white city girl taking a moonshine shot down South.
- Talk to me if you have issues. Don't just shitpost on /egg/, talk to me. I'll see what I can do.

1/2

>>122530094
It's not because of circlejerking, but because of pubbies. I don't want pubshitters on my server.

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>>122530194
>stranded on a strange planet
>no choice but to slowly build up technology in hopes that one day you can return

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>>122531720
Some general stuff:
- You are encouraged to make your own faction. Warbros will have one, auto-accepting peace treaties. You can apply to join us, but if you're not into building shit together and sperging out on TS3, this might not be for you. Buddy up with someone, make things happen.
- Warbros faction will not hold your hand. We'll hep if you are conveniently close and can spare the time/resources, though.
- The server will have some QoL addons, such as the helmet mod. Read the description and understand it. Protip: Turn of the glass reflection, set the shadow scale so there is no shadow and deactivate delayed movement.
- Another is Chat History. Type /ch to see the last 50 messages typed in /global. Might help with catching up.
- Also, Build Info, which gives you information about blocks you're placng. Turn it on/off with /buildinfo in /global chat.
- There's only one respawn ship, the Sparky. It has all you need to survive, some mats, beacon, solars, nuke reactor, refinery/assembler. Spawn in one of those and set out to meet the cold void. Keep in mind that Sparkies cannot land on planets because lol thrust.
- There will not be a Starter Zone for new players, unless you make and maintain one. We won't.
- Every time I log off, I will make a copy of the server save. The server is set to autosave every 30 minutes. Recovery of items might be tricky. Make blueprints of your shit - Ctrl+B.

You might want to grab the Warbros UI, too. See through menus and generally improved visibility and an increased G Menu size.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=375575227
I run it with the yellow font pack.

Wish you were here.

Last word: Offline raidfags, pls go. You are butts.

>>122527629
>>122527864
You are welcome to come and autism in isolation on our server.

>>122529248
We're not "the /egg/ Spengies group". The Steamgroup is just a whitelist to keep out unwashed pubbies. It is the only way I can regulate access.

>>122531720
>no survival server
fug

>>122530194
>>122531742
Muh dick

>>122532043
>no survival
wat
It's most certainly survival.

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>star system scenario
>don't know how to fly the starter ship worth a damn
>crash 3-4 times in a row
>finally make it down intact with one landing gear stuck on the side of a mountain

>start building a little shuttle thing so i can practice flying and also do some mining
>main ship clangs a little, permanently tilts 30 degrees forward

>save
>reload
>ship clangs a little more
>now also tilted about 40 degrees to the right
>have to build ramps and catwalks at weird random angles just so i can get up to the top of the ship

I foolishly ground down all the thrusters (thinking to make it a semi-permanent base for now) so I can't just take off to correct it.

>>122532043
... yeah, we're survival. Creative seems pointless.

>>122530194
I'm almost positive they rigged it so certain blocks have a higher chance of surviving impacts with planets. I've done a ton of crashes now where the cockpit survived and I rolled down a hill inside.

>>122532609
Not him but if that's true I approve. Accidentally crashing into an unknown planet and having to find a way to leave gives me a huge boner.

>>122531720
As a note, the preload world is already in the mod collection

>>122492759
>higgs bonbon
he's here too isn't he

>>122533450
Yes

IIRC the same person who posted about whatevercraft the minecraft in denial, and then posted a negative review of it in its store page and here.

>>122532204
>>122532445
huh, im kind of new to anything that isnt singleplayer survival, but the image said "creative mode"
i don't really know what the "ship blueprints in creative" thing means

also is
>>122499478
related to warbros?

>>122534343
>i don't really know what the "ship blueprints in creative" thing means
In creative mode you can build a ship and then save the design as a blueprint. Then in survival you can build a projector that will let you easily build a ship with that same design.

>>122527523
or you know... mend them yourself...

>>122500669
If we are talking multiplayer there might be little need to adjust spawn rate of ores, just have the users set their own values, have trade/transaction be mediated by a trading block or as an option for ships/stations similar to how you assign ownership.

Have a separate tab for trade were you can assign what is received and what is sent press confirm, trade rejected if insufficient space is available or criteria not met (banned goods, banned player or faction etc...).

Trade block options:
>User confirmation yes/no (do you agree to this trade offer yes/no dialog box)
>Allow trade yes/no (to lock trade completely)
>List of allowed/banned goods
>List of allowed/banned users/factions

Additional options for cargo containers and what have you
>Allow trade yes/no

That wont stop people from smashing your shit and stealing it however.

That said, it would be fun playing with programmable blocks, timers, and other logic to automate and manage trading facilities and automatically update their values based on supply and demand. That's half the fun right there especially if you can make a mesh network and get them to communicate with one another.

Is there a reason why space engineers runs like such fucking shit now?
I used to get 300 fps average, now I get about 20 fps on a planet

>>122534938
Because it renders so much of the planet and leaks so much memory

>move welder ship gently to mother ship to dock
>connectors freak the fuck out and smack the ships into eachother
>fly back to welding zone to repair because projectors
>connector gets rebuilt and the ships try to reconnect at sanic speeds from about 30m away

FUCK

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>>122531912
>>122531720
why won't you accept me

>>122519035
>at least a year

>>122535482
they're just looking out for us speedmod bros

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>>122534938
>mfw first time running with vsync off in main menu over 1000fps GPU starts whining like crazy

>>122536851
>only getting 1k fps in the menu
2.1k frames master race

>>122536457
Sometimes, I don't see invites pop up. Sorry. I'll scan them regularly but sometimes the autism gets me and I MUST BUILD.

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Server provider just popped a message into the frontend.

Apparently the bug of "DIS IS CREATIVE NOW" is so keen, other people get it, too. Also, yay me, I fixed it by writing it back into the config file.

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I miss old explosions

Is
>>122499478
And
>>122531720
The same server?

>>122538558
Yes.

heys boys you build any wild contraptions on blanets yet?

i gotta build me a wheel chair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P07OvOL-iU

Is the Piston the way to extend a mining drill?

>>122541157
if by extend you mean clang everything to fuck then yes

>>122541279
Clang this clang that, will clang ever be resolved?

It ruins all the god damn fun, what can you do online besides building static objects and flying buildings that have only 1 landing mode, crash.

Space Civil engineers.

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>>122539887
I built a jet powered skiddy sled car thing. It's about as dangerous as a regular spengies car, but you'll get a lot further before the inevitable fatal crash.

>>122541826
learn to love the clang

>>122542312
John madden John madden John madden John madden John madden John madden John madden John madden John madden John madden John madden madden John madden John madden John

>>122542219
praise be to clang, all hail clang destroyer of worlds

>>122542982
aeiou

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>>122541279
>>122541826
here we go lads

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>>122543145
someone should make this, the ultimate deterrent

Rebootan serbian. Back up in 5.

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>Tried to get blanets to work all weekend
>Looking at the smallest moon I can make still crashes my graphics card drivers
>People with generally the same specs as me can run planets alright

I give. Its all up to Keen to fix it now.

And we all know how likely that is.

nipponcraft update
><ver.0.156>
Rough estimated translation by a slav:
>Neutral set to 0 now applied to speed of the joint instead of resetting it's position to 0° (NeutralAngle is used now to reset joints to a specified angle and NeutralLength is used to reset the pistons to the specified length.)
>Double NeutralAngle/NeutralLength now makes joint act as like a step motor, snapping to the specified angles/lengths.
Note: it doesn't turn the joint into a step motor but merely snaps to the grid-like angles/lengths.

Might just help with the walking robutts.
>robutts
Buttbots when?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXwGVXD7qEQ

how much wiggling is acceptable before clang blesses?

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>tfw the rescue ranger is a complete success

If anyone needs help, I can be there in a few minutes now and support any surface operation with fuel and a few spare parts, medbay and other basic things. Such as aylmao removal turrets.

Aylmao blaned to Earf in 10 minutes!

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>>122547462
All important bits reachable from the bottom, including a medbay, cargo, reactor and seats for passengers.

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>>122547665
Goodbye, Earf. Let's check out the moon.

>>122506159
That's because /kspg/ faggots immediately took it and turned it retarded

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>>122547994
We seem to be fine here.

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>>122548285
Moonjumping is the best.

>>122545728
What resolution are you trying? I went full tard with 1280x720

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>>122548398
Next stop: The red planet. NASA needs to get their shit together, took me like a few minutes to get here.

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>>122548629
No atmosphere means ions got full power. Fuck you, 0.9G.

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>>122548865
Europa is pretty cool. It's mostly ice, is what I mean.

Stop posting in png holy fuck

>>122549824
god speed spayyce engineer, god speed.

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>>122549824
Titan confirmed aylmao free. It is safe to settle here, next to the probably toxic lakes.

>>122550080
No.

>>122550304
Listen to him you fuckstain, post images properly.
>claims to be engineer
>I R SMRT
>EFFICIENCY IS KEY FUCK AESTHETICS

>POSTS IMAGES IN FUCKING PEE EN GEE
I wish I could hate you to death.

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>>122550304
Mother of god.

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>>122550424
Time to visit the home of the ayyys.

>>122550414
Fine. Sourpuss.

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>>122550505
Not him, but thank you.

Ranger is pretty cool. I'm going to stick to singleplayer for now until my new PC parts arrive.
Then I'll be back on the server with an array of new planetworthy ships.

mfw old all-in-one could run VBscript planets on medium settings fine, but can't run a tiny official moon on lowest settings.

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>>122550505
Ayys are asleep, quick, build bases!

>>122550767
You know where to find me.

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>>122550863
The one issue with manually placed planets: procedural asteroids in the gravwell. But it's actually kinda cool.

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>>122550973
This is all we built before we escaped the planet for space again.

>>122551510
If the platforms turrets were to run out of ammo, would thayyy be able to destroy the pillar and collapse the thing?

Rails in spengies when?
Geothermal power plants when?
Heat mechanic when?
That would actually give a reason to bases and shit:
>crash/land on a planet
>scout for resources and potential spots for geothermal power plants
>drill 'em ores
>drill deep into the crust
>!!FUN!! with lava or just things getting HOT
>build the power plant
>get shitload of energy without using uranium
Now to get things and energy to the orbit...
>build rails
>build rails above them
>turn the whole thing into a goddamn railgun
>shoot things into the orbit
Alternatively:
>just build rails to the orbit and get stuff there with a spesstrain
Also, with heat mechanic we could get lasers, meltdowns, people getting boiled or frozen in their suits and all sorts of fun, along with the need to get rid of the excess heat from reactors. Which would make batteries necessary and force us to put an actual effort in designing power systems for ships and bases as opposed to current "just put more reactors on it and shut the fuck up".

What are the spawning requirements for spess spiders? Do they need a certain amount of empty space, night time, and a player nearby?

>>122551727
Yes, yes they would.

>>122552831
People, I think. And the longer no spiders was there/killed, the more likely they will come.

>>122509064
>initially capable of the same rate as one to one to one
Did you fail to notice how 1:4:4 is only good for a single autoloader? Even then, it's the middle choice between two alternatives:
For a single autoloader, 1:2:3 will provide higher fire rate/block, whereas 1:5:5 will provide higher fire rate.

>using your one to one to one loader, fire rate per block is initially 0.015042 per block. This declines to 0.007 per block at 16 autoloaders.
The fire rate for one 1:1:1 loader would be 0.0075 rounds/(s*block), as it is limited by ammo input. This remains constant for <16 autoloaders.
You even calculated this, so why state something else?

>beltloaders are good for 500mm rounds
What about every other gauge, where you can't abuse the instant reload of clips?
For example, what about a max-length 18mm shell?


>>122511305
Your source explicitly states that regular autoloaders are superior for sustained fire.
As does http://fromthedepths.gamepedia.com/User:Evil4Zerggin/Advanced_cannon_notes which is linked to by your source.

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>>122551510
Good night, /egg/. See you near a space accident near you.

What amount of RAM power do you guys have?
I have 4 gigs and get loading stutters every step I take ig.

Also, is there a way to only spawn one planet instead of like 4?

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I'm testing some rover idea and seeing a few glaring problems.

Firstly, is it in any way logical to land a rover from orbit? I had engines on my test rover incase I drove outside gravity, and the suspension wheels made it difficult to maneuver it around in zero gravity. I'm pretty certain that will clang any drop ships apart unless you take your decent painfully slow.

Secondly, what options do we have to prevent and fix flipped vehicles? I would rather not build my vehicle wide or use downward thrusters to keep it upside-up, and would rather not use rotors and pistons.

Finally, I'm not a hardware guy, so how does this look? I just want it to run all games on low settings, I took a build and tweaked it with a graphics card I already have. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sF8CTW

>>122554707
Landing a rover is entirely possible. Just have enough thrust.
For dealing with vehicle flipover, I'd suggest a few extra gyros. They'll also help you make sharp turns.

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>>122554471
>4 gigs

>ctrl-f
>only three mentions of Factorio
>all in the OP
T_T

>Try to get into the space engies server with the preload world thing already installed
>What previously took a minutes tops is now halted by "downloading world" which takes up to an hour
The fuck is this bullshit

>>122534938
>>122535482
Now that planets are finally out and all those whiney kids are satisfied they can start working on optimizing them.

>>122560623

Shit bugs out sometimes anon

>>122554471
I have 16 GB and sometimes SE eat all of it.
You are not going to be fine.

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So i'm going to fly that on a planet, will it crash and burn?

>>122562407
50/50

>>122536206
Turn down the connection force on the connector.

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>host has left the game
>full inventory

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>>122563295
>someone found my asteroid and raped it dry
>20-40 seconds of delay for anything at all
>restarts every 5 minutes

is this supposed to be fun

> Serb crash again
Why

>>122563295
>refill my inventory to continue work
>SERVER HOST HAS LEFT THE GAME

CED

I WILL GET YOU

How many layers of scaffold do you think will protect a ship from just crashing into the planet?