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Magmar isn't gay! We swear! edition.

>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>Forum, Announcements...
http://forums.duelyst.com/

>faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started

Now in open beta.

Previous thread: >>122185638
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First for Vanar just needs a better focus to work.

Decks feel like they try to do three or so things at once.
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>>122399473
The more I look at Silithar Elder, the more I don't understand whatever the fuck is happening with the sprite.

Does he have like, 3 horns on each side of his arm, a giant blade he hold with his left hand, tinies green eyes, a D: mouth and a beard ?
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>>122399295
baitruvian works phonetically, I just don't understand how it works re:vetruvian's playstyle

pay2vian works for me because if you want a good vet deck it takes a fuckload of legos
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>>122399869
It fits in the sense of Vet relying on baiting dispels out before laying down Ayymaria healers.

p2vian is probably more correct in term of community opinion (though I'm a gold vet and still f2p) but it doesn't roll on the tongue.
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>>122399859
He has 3 horns at each side.
Then a claw.
Walks on two legs.
And a zapblade he grew on his veteran mode
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>>122399675
Currently running a vanar deck in low gold, I keep getting destroyed but at least it's more fun to play than everything else. Would appreciate any tip.
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who's denying BaraLizards aren't gay?
we're just saying they're balanced :3
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Fractal replication in magmar control as a singleton/2x y/n? Have any interesting control lists to post?
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these are some pretty dank memes XD
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>>122402316
We need to be danker
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>>122401245
Seems overkill
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I just realized how powerful Ayyyamara healer is when I locked down Songhai general with 2 of these and felt his burning asshole when I put out 2 scarabs afterwards.
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>>122404218
>tfw got two from packs
>tfw dusted them to make mamar Legos
>tfw magmar is about to get nerfed
Shoulda just played p2winvian
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>>122399675
According to the wiki:
>When playing as Vanar, you want to use the battlefield and Minion blocking to your advantage. You excel at forcing your opponent into bad positions. You can trap your opponent using Walls and other Minions, eventually overwhelming them with massive battlefield presence. Superior removal gives you the ability to neutralize all sorts of threats. Using Vespyr Minion summons, you can trigger lots of different synergistic effects focused around keeping the battlefield clear of threats and buffing your Minions. You can Transform ANY minion on the battlefield to your advantage. Force your opponents to choose whether they get hit by Infiltrate Minions on their starting side or Avalanche on yours! Recommended for advanced players.
tl;dr - Vanar's gimmicks are supposed to be Avalance/Infiltrate and lots of control.
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>>122404847
It would be cool if they incentrate the Vanar in 2 strategies: one being aggressive in the enemy field (Infiltrator and stuff) or staying a little defensively in your field and abuse spells as Avalanche. We need more cards :(
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>>122405149
Avalanche sucks anyway and infiltrate is easy to deal with
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>>122405317
Introduce 'swap position with hero' minion
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>>122405784
Or something to swap general positions. But I bet that'd cost a fuckton or have all sorts of restrictions because Vanar can't have nice things.
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>>122406009
I was thinking they could introduce some kind of defensive option that activates if minions are on your side of the board, that way if you're forced to play in your side your shit is not completely useless.
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>>122408051
Avalanche: Does shit in your hometurf
Infiltrate: Does shit on HIS hometurf
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>>122408212
You mean like "Avalanche" being the keyword for the activation?
That's what I was talking about, idk if you are referring to the spell.
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I have nothing against faggots, but do we really need this picture as the OP for the general?
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>>122408212
That's the whole point. Unlike a lot of other mechanics, Avalanche/Infiltrate are based on universal board position instead of relative board position.

>>122408379
It would make sense for creatures to have abilities that activate when Avalanche/Infiltrate triggers.
What we need are creatures with BOTH Avalance and Infiltrate on them so that they're not completely useless and can change their role depending on the situation (+DEF on Avalance, +ATK on Infiltrate).
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>>122408497
The joke is that the Magmar is hands-down the strongest faction in the game right now, so everyone who plays them are bara/fuccbois.

Still, that picture is a bit much.
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>>122408621
>What we need are creatures with BOTH Avalance and Infiltrate on them
THANKS, god damn this was exactly what I was trying to say I'm so retarded.
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>Still need to get Abyssian and Songhai to level 11
>1-2 wins away from Gold
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>>122408809
Yeah, it always got me that my creatures were only good once infiltrated, but just downright worthless or overcosted on mine or the middle.

Be nice if say for Snow Chaser he had his current effect, but then read "If on own side, moves three spaces" or something like that.
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>>122409179
So then the card would say "Avalance: <minion> can move three spaces."
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>>122409152
Just get yourself to gold first and then level up those factions you nigger
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>>122409347
Sure, then Crystal Cloaker could be something like
"Avalance: Gains +1 Health" or "Gains +1 Attack and +1 Health"

I can see how hard it can be to rebalance the whole faction around this kinda mechanic, but I think they really need it. It's kinda dramatic to see how shit they are even after the Vespyr changes.
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Are the servers fucked up or is it just me
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>>122409934
Vanar's prevailing gimmick is supposed to be "master of control," whether of the board or of minions themselves. Right now, I don't really see that.
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>>122410276
>Play vanar mirror matches
>I place walls to set up Aspect plays or block mana nodes early
>They just dump walls for the sake of dumping walls

I can see the control elements, but don't think most people playing Vanar think that far ahead to utilize the control they do have which is mostly movement.

Far too often someone putting Bonechill Barriers into corners or straight lines close to map edges and then proceed to do nothing with them.
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>>122409934
>Vespyr changes
what changes?
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>>122410276
This is why I'd like them; a faction that really relies on good positioning.
But yeah, Infiltrate minions are trash without their Infiltrate. They need to be baseline good and get better once Infiltrated. Or be shit but have both Avalanche and Infiltrate.
As is, it sucks.
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>>122411025
Before the now known as "Vespyr" Vanar tribal they used to be "Frost" minions, which didn't include snow chaser.

Also Cryogenesis used to cost 4 mana for the same effect.

The change was pretty minimal but still improved alot of the gameplay of Vanar.
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Why does the hint for this puzzle give you literally wrong advice?
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>>122411572
The later puzzles start giving fake advice or half-truths.
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>>122410874
IMO the whole problem about vanar is that the duck full steems run on three cards; voice of the wind, razorback and glaciar elemental. All this cards need the walls to proc, and that's the only reason why you run it stopping movement or positioning be damned. Sure, I could block him, but if I save it I can clear the whole board later for 5 mana.
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>>122409152
You have plenty of time, no need to rush for gold where you'll get rekt continually
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>>122411784
I've done that plenty too. Fun to nuke a bunch of stuff off the table (like eggs). But there is merit in putting down walls to discourage movement. Especially since at higher ranks I still run into people running their general at all those 0/2s and killing one so now they're stuck there and I start cornering them.
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>>122411982
That's the thing. I wasn't rushing, I was getting each faction to 11 then moving on to the next one. I won a game with the level 2 Abyssian deck I put together after making that post and now I'm in gold. Was I supposed to start spamming concede to drop ranks or what?
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>>122412339
Its easy if you're close to a goal just get it and then level the rest. You wont get demoted out of gold
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Bara men best men
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Is the op really so buttblasted that it made him google lizard porn?
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>>122416452
Or maybe he's enjoying so much getting anally devastated by magmar that he just picked a random image from his fap folder?
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>>122416452
>>122416697
Never mind he went out of his way to edit the OP for the thread. That's next level.
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>tfw want to play
>tfw dont want to ruin win streak
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>>122411572
It's the intended solution.
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When did you realize that Lyonar is even more cancerous than Magmar?
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>>122421375
Lyonar is pretty straightforward.
>Minions get stronger near the general
>General leads the charge from the front, taunting enemies away from the heavy hitters and healing where necessary
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>>122421375
How do you even lose to magmar hahaha like nigga really just mana burn the ironcliffe guardian with divine bond
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>>122422015
Fug *lyonar
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>>122422015
I don't play as Magmar though
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>>122422420
>wanting to lose
Why even play the game then
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>>122424343
Because I'm waiting for a loli general.
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>>122424508
What if it was a bara shota lizard general
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>>122424710
It would be nice too.
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>>122424710
>bara shota
?
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>>122425173
This is what came to mind when I read that
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u aint shit
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I'm pretty sure the OP scared off anyone remotely interested in the game.
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Is it possible to de-rank at the end of the month? Because im rank 11 and dont want to enter gold because ill probably get rekt
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>I'm winning but the enemy has mechazor and a shitton of minions
>Enemy has 8 hp left
>my cards are so shit that it's impossible to defeat him this turn
>replace one card, and get another useless card
>suddenly I got the reconnecting popup, few seconds later I'm back in the game but with a small rollback (before I replaced the card)
>replace again
>get Star's Fury
>ravage his ass
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>>122430330
??

At the end of the month, everyone's ranking is reset and we all drop down to bronze again.
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>>122430330
When you reach the next tier, you can never drop below that tier. You can lose ranks within gold, but you will never drop from gold to silver.
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>>122430963
>we all drop down to bronze again
No, not really, you get repositioned in a lower league depending on the result of your last league.
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>>122430774
>game pretty even
>i redraw the exact card I need to turn game in my favor
>play everything o ut
>RECONNECTING
>I redraw garbage this time
FUCK
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>>122432284
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. :-)
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>tfw your opponent plays his whole hand of weenies only to get plasma stormed
Magmarbros, is there a better feel?
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>>122432684
Guy drops like 5 creatures in perfect range for a makantor war beast
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Hey, I'm new, and I just got 900 dust saved.

Is there a neutral legendary that's just generically good in everything, where everyone is running it? If not, I'll probably just craft a Silithar Elder. I already have 1, and it seems quite strong. Thought I should ask the lazy, game-addicted ass--um, I mean, pro MLG players of /dyg/ first, as your weird, autis--I mean, amazing, awe-inspiring knowledge of the ins and outs of the game makes you an invaluable resource to new players and veterans alike.
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Is there a reliable magmar deck to level up to 11 with, I don't mind losing but I don't wanna die like a bitch every time
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>>122433187
>another magmar player
How interesting
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>>122433187
Play Magmar if you want to win
Play anything else if you want to be a slave to bara lizard cock
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>>122433187
Just look at official duelyst forums for the decks that have the most views, or ones labeled "s tier".
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>>122433271
Control
Aka:
3x silithar elder
3x young silithar
3x veteran silithar
3x makantor warbeast
3x plasma storm
3x mana burn
3x flash reincarnation
Then mix in some
Metamorphosis
Egg morph
Random creatures
Ggez
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Up, you fucks
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niggers
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should I craft a tusk boar or mask of shadows
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I guess no european players post here.
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>>122441736
tusk boar my nig
>>122441753
too busy being blown up by muslims
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>Love Vetruvian
>Literally no legos for it
I managed to get 900 spirit. What's a good legendary to start with?
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ohhhhh baby
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>>122442005
amara healer
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>>122442017
I built three emerald rejuvinators as my first minions and I thank god every day I don't unbox another one, my buddy has unboxed like 5
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Did not realize that the mechazor can be built by summoning any 5 parts
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>>122442735
>20%
>5 times
>100%
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>>122442735
Literally cannot stop the building of mechazor.
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>>122442735
what's with the mechazor decks? this is really annoying tbhfam
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>>122443137
I just assumed that you needed the 5 unique parts but let's just use 3 helmets and 2 guns instead
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>>122443924
Oh well then yeah, that caught me off guard the first time I saw that too.
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>>122443792
>mechazor
>hard to deal with

seriously aside from games where he draws 5 mechazor cards and you get NO answers to it he's not that hard to handle.
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>>122444127
i just meant fighting a million of them in a row is annoying. im playing magmar so its easy
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>>122444624
>annoying
Free points on ladder sure is annoying
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>reactivation removes stun

neat
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>decide to put a Sarlac because full refund week
>only draw him once since Whensday

why
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>>122446510
>Whensday
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I'm definitely on a win streak right now.

So why am I not getting 2 points per win?
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>>122446850
If you're past rank 5 there's no 2 points per win
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>>122446976
woooooooooooooooow
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>>122447027
It's understandable. Past rank 5 there's a lower chance of you hitting a suitable opponent, since most people at that point are way lower on the bell curve than you. If a player is really lucky and none of his diamond+ peers are on that night, he gets to easily skyrocket to S rank.
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>>122446454
I remember using Inner Focus and my minion staying frozen.
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>>122447339
Yeah inner focus doesn't remove it. Stunned =/= exhausted. I'm not sure what the other dude is referring to, maybe avalanche.
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Have I finally won the Legendary Lottery? It kinda seems like 8 Gate and Oserix are bad though.
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>>122447829
>2 legendaries and an epic
Fuck where mine at
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>>122447829
Spectral blade is a staple, the other two are pretty meh
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>>122447829
Haven't opened a legendary in like 8 packs and an epic in like 4
mirin
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>>122447829
8 Gates is kinda good in some burn scenarios, Oserix is marginal. If his artifact effect was an OG he'd be much better.
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>>122447829
Fuck your luck nigga i hope you get a speedin ticket tomorrow
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>>122447829
Eight gates is time bomb waiting to happen. Mark my words, when the next expansion comes out that card will be nerfed to shit or completely reworked.
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why is everyone freaking out, it's nothing special
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>>122448062
Yes. I too, open 2 legendaries and epics in my packs like it's nothing special.
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>>122448004
so what you're saying is that he should hold on to it for the potential 900 spirit
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>>122448145
Nah, not really.
I mean if you're not desperate for 350 dust and you might want to experiment with the card, you can hold on to it. Im just making some stupid predictions.
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>he doesn't play magmar
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>>122448335
where we at /bara/?
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>>122448137
I've done it like 5 times already, the 2 legendary thing. I don't know why but I think gauntlet packs are loaded.
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>>122448335
That's instantly an indicative that this man is a nice fellow.
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>>122448429
>Rook costs fucking 7
Why?
You can have pandora who is 100% better.
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>>122448335
>>122448392
>tfw plasma storming a field of weenies
Feels good. I can feel the butthurt through the screen
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>>122448463
bedfellow
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>>122448528
few things are more satisfying than Metamorphosis + Plasma Storm
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magmar players pls go
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Who /vanar/ here?
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>>122448612
When they allow us back into /mg/
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>>122448592
Speaking of which, what the fuck is the point of this combo ? You have practically no way to play around it beyond maybe Songweaver and Archon SpellBinder, and even then, the moment thoses troubles are gone you win.
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>>122448612
The gayspammers are getting annoying. I don't know if you call them furries even if they're posting anthro lizard stuff that's not furry at all....scalies?

>>122448716
/mg/?
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>>122448732
It's just really expensive. Also Songweaver does not stop it.
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>>122448771
Morenatsu General.
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>>122448780
>9 mana card killing every minions the other guy might have had on the field

That's a reasonable price for what it does.
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>>122448675
me

>tfw no s-rank
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>>122448818
You've been exiled from a furry community? Honestly, it doesn't surprise me given what's happening here.
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>>122448771
>The gayspammers are getting annoying
>Says the tripshit
>Says the tripshit SHILL
Ayyyy
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>>122448904
At least strategy game shilling is more relevant than homosexual anthropomorphic porn in the context of a TBS/TCG game discussion. But yeah I don't mind shilling.
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>>122448903
Morenatsu General was kinda allowed into /vg/ to stop /v/ gayfurry spam husbando threads.

Later on unterbasnchwahtever general (german loli vn) got a general, mods deleted it because not allowed, they went nuclear butthurt and bitched about /mg/, then both got hiroshima'd



TL;DR: Lurk more shill
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>>122448980
>But yeah I don't mind shilling
Anddddd filtered.

Also
>Pay2Nora: The messy graphic tiles where nobody knows what the fuck is happening and the client is from the early 2000'
>"Good"
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>>122448980
>>122448429
>changing your trip and name because you forgot

dank
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>>122449107
FILTERED! YEAH I SHOWED HIM!
Nigga nobody cares you attention seeking faggot, just filter the dude and not post about it.
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>>122449025
Why the fuck would I be up to date on the gay furry's community drama stuff? You guys got a chan and everything, just go there for your generals.

>>122449107
>>Pay2Nora: The messy graphic tiles where nobody knows what the fuck is happening and the client is from the early 2000'
Kek, I could beat you 100 times in a row using starter decks son. You can cry p2w all you want but it's still a game so deep you'd need to train for roughly one year just to get good.
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>>122449253
>P-p-pox n-nora i-isn't d-d-dd-d-dead!!!!
>I-i-i-i-i sweeeeearrrr
It's dead.
It's shit.
It's P2W.
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>>122449168
Think about it for a second, gay furry chan.


>>122448491
No clue why Rook is 7. Now that you mention it, Pandora does seem vastly superior.
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>>122449220
He literally got so butthurt he changed his trip senpai.
That's work enough.
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>>122449450
Keep changing your name butthurt shill, nobody is going to play poxnora.

let's list things more alive than poxnora
>Duelyst
>Runescape
>Nethack
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>>122449450
I think we officially have /dyg/'s first official meme.
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>>122449372
I didn't say it wasn't dead, I said I could floor your retarded ass 100 times in a row with starter decks if I wished to, and I could. Why you changing the topic bro, scared it might be true or something?
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>building songhai, have a legendary and a couple epics
Should I just switch to magmar? It's still early.
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>>122449603
Don't bother with "switching". Just make both.

It doesn't take too long in this game.
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>>122449450
Also it's >faction
But most faction things are Effect: Bonus.

What zeal, infiltrate, death watch does he get? How much backstab?
>>122449565
What?
PoxNora isn't shit?

Because Pandora is better than rook seems less like a meme and more like a fact. Pandora is better than silithar sounds much more memey. Or Pandora is good kage.
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>>122449464
Or you could do the thing I like and just ignore stupid shitposts. They leave if you don't give them the (you)s they crave.
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>>122449676
But it's fun to fish for retard tripshit replies from time to time
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>>122449675
shilling PoxNora
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>>122449565
Vanar being bad was the first meme.

>>122449675
Can the wolves get any ability in the game then? Like Sarlac's Dying Wish or Elder's replication thing.
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>abyssian buffs his deathwatch minion to huge proportions
>mana burn
Feels fucking good man.
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>both daily quests are for factions I'm shit at

Suffering
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JUST
FUCKING
BUY IT
PLAY MY GAME.


PLAY IT.
PLAY.
POXNORA.
IT ISN'T SHIT.
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>>122449862
>Abyssian
>his

Lilithe is a cute girl Anon albeit with disgusting lips.
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>>122449862
>summon a Shadowdancer just for a dude
>no wraithlings out
>draw wraithling spawn at turn end
>mana burn instantly
Fucking Magmar players
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>>122449896
Well done soldier.
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>>122449775
Love it.


Also for the interested, wolfs get:
Celerity, Provoke, Ranged, Flying and Frenzy
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>>122449862
>lyonar summons a giant provoke minion and divine bonds it
>turn it into an egg and pop it
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>>122450025
>Celerity, Provoke, Ranged, Flying and Frenzy
That's all they can get? That's disappointing then, I thought it got stuff from the overall ability pool.
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>>122450123
Flash (red): 3/3 Celerity, arguably the best out of them all.
Blaze (orange): 3/3 Frenzy, a close contender to Flash.
Zap (green): 3/3 Ranged, if you don't get Flash or Blaze or just need to kill that pesky Widowmaker.
Cloud (blue): 3/3 Flying, for when you need to summon things that need protecting or closing a gap.
Sinker (purple): 3/3 Provoke, for when you need to lock something down, albeit only 3 Health.

it's 6/13 split across 2 bodies with a special ability at random.
Isn't great; but at that cost you get better shit in-faction or her ability is crap in-faction. Also you get 2 fucking cards for a 6 card hand per turn, so value engines aren't that good.
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>>122450230
those names aren't accurate
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>>122450296
I stole it from a post in the official forums, but iirc those are the 5 non-faction keywords so checks out.
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>>122450230
I think I like Zap and Flash the most then.
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>>122450369
they're named after emotions and stuff
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Blast decklist where?
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>>122451854
Just follow the tournament deck list. Even with the sarlac nerf it's still an easy contender for top deck.
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>All these Abyssian smurfs getting dropped into my tier after nerfs
>All I want to do is level my shitty Songhai to 11
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Do I get more XP for a faction if I play more shit? As in, should I stay in a game and stall while summoning shit everywhere for more XP?
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>>122452371
I feel your pain, only it was with vanar and it's finally over
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>>122452371
>tfw finally got my Abyssian deck to 10
>want packs to try and finish my deck
>nothing but Lyonar/vanar quests
>I only play Abyssian
True suffering
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>>rank up every faction to 11
>>finished my quests
>>hovering at rank 6 with half finished mediocre decks
>>have to win 14 games just to get enough coins to buy a booster
Why does it have to be so bloody hard to get coins bros? the only card game that has a slightly fair system is bloody magic duels and that has a shallow card pool and lame bugs
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>>122453564
Duelyst is actually pretty generous. In Hearthstone it takes 30 wins to buy a pack.
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How can I improve this? I'm stuck at rank 4 again.

I was thinking about swapping out the Glacial Elementals because they're too inconsistent.
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>>122453636
Also packs are normally dogshit unless you play once in a blue moon.

And leggos cost 950, generally you get more dust/spirit to craft stuff (even if you need 40cards)
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>Play as Vet
>Vs Fagmar
>Have to live in perpetual fear that he'll use plasma storm.
Is Magmar really just a good counter for Vets or what?
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>>122453769
I hope you're not using obelisks.
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>>122453769
I am. It just felt right with the 3 Portal Guardians I have.
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>>122453672
>All those legos
Mirin. I would swap coldbiter and blazing spines over glaciar though. I cannot imagine playing vanar without glaciar, you get no board clear.
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>>122453939
Meant to quote this. I'm retarded.
>>122453815
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>>122453815
Why shouldn't you use obelisks?
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>>122411784
>Voice of the wind
>Razorback
>triggering on walls
???
And Galcial elemental is perfectly happy with one or two snowchasors on board or in hand, grantzed that's assuming you're not stuck in a corner on your side of the map
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>>122448675
Vanar a best
I shat all over gold but now I'm too scared to play in diamond
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>>122453998
>>122454048
Because magmar players will wipe you clean. And best believe there are a ton of magmars on the ladder
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>>122454315
I rarely fight Magmars though, as a rank 5

Almost everyone is *teleports behind you* Songhai
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Post Vanar decks
Fuck walls they're way too slow in this deck, I'll eventually make a dedicated deck around them with tons of transform and stuff
Next thing on the list is getting Lockes to replace Primus, but all that dust though
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>>122454458
I fight a ton of magmar at rank 5. The 3 most common factions there are songhai, magmar, and lyonar.

This doesn't mean Vertruvian is weak though, it's just too expensive for the general populace to even consider.
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>>122454537
I decided that Vet was the faction I'm never going to play and I just dusted all their shit
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>>122399473
That looks like a tigrex, except with no wings
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Anyone has good decklist/tiers for songay cards?
I want to *teleportsbehindu*
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>>122454614
Nah, Tigrex's pointy ears are an essential part of his look
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>>122454689
maybe his left ear got broken off
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>>122454587
Vet was the faction that I liked the most visually. I went for them first and only realized after playing to rank 15 that Vets were expensive as heck if I wanted to do as well as I did before. It's annoying that most of their stuff is expensive as hell, but oh well.
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>>122454918
Pretty much the same for me, they looked the coolest thematically but I'm not going to afford that as f2p
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>>122454980
Do a cheap grind deck for them wins and use the rest for Vet.
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>>122455042
Yeah but then I have to play for like two months with awful decks that I don't like to grind shit and I'll be burned out before I'm 1 week in
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>>122455135
Nigga.
Just buy like 50 packs That's loads of dust and nearly enough for any deck.
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>>122455198
Or I could not spend 50 bucks and play other, cheaper and yet fun classes instead
Maybe I'll make a dedicated vet account one day
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>>122455256
Or you can make one of those cheap fun classes and then build towards vet eventually
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>>122455326
Sure but when I already have half the cards of the class I chose I can get the rest of their cards instead and have the ability to make a variety of decks for that faction
And when I have all the cards for that class there's still other fun classes to play
I've mentally filed away vet as lowest priority
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>>122455403
If you say so anon.

Also vet-dedicated account is not possible until you get bots to grind the gold for ya. Or you're an arenagod.
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>>122454918
>>122454980
Before I dust all my Vet stuff, can someone tell me what playing high level Vet is like?
Because it sounds like there's a difference between rich Vet and
>lol obelisks
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>>122455454
Why would it not be possible? I get all the freebie packs to dust plus another set of dailies
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>>122455483
Because you'd be grinding twice (once real, once fake), I guess it's good to split the gold/dust profit, but you'd still be playing a gimped deck for years in comparison to making good decks and eventually getting lucky enough you get enough vet shit
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>>122455462
Amara Healers, Scion's Third Wish, Time Maelstorm, Wildfire Ankh, Star's Fury. Basically most of these are mandatory.
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>>122455671
Time Maelstorm and Ankh are the only ones that aren't.

Ayyymarra, Scion+Star's are core.
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I wish Deathblighter was at least a 3/5
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>>122455891
Well, that's still at least 6 legendaries and 3 epics.
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I really like how regular the balance changes are for this game. Coming from Hearthstone where there can be literal 6+ month periods before even a single card change, it's a breath of fresh air.
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>>122455954
Smegmar isn't that cheap either (3 elder, 2-3 meta, vindicatorguys)
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>>122456025
Fagmar still has good cards even if you only have 1 of each of those cards. Vets can't as reliably use other cards and still dominate as much as the Lizards.
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>>122456197
>1 of each
>Playing with less than 3 rushguys
>Or less than 3 elders
bet ya don't play twilights you fucking bronzie
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>>122455671
>>122455891
Is Oserix worth keeping or should I dust his ass?
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>>122457259
Be a man and play full on meme artifact vet
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Season rewards revealed when?
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>>122458479
Season rewards?
What?
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>>122458714
At the end of every month, you get cards, gold and spirit based on the highest rank you achieved. Then everyone's ranks are reset.
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>>122458747
HOLEY FUG.

How much?
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>>122458832
Last month's:

http://forums.duelyst.com/t/duelyst-beta-0-49-0-pending-release-10-27-4pm-pst/20188
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>>122458870
I...
I now want to reward the by buying another 50 packs.
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>>122459013
>another
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dear dev team:

please buff blazing spines to 4/3

you know why
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>>122459157
>Implying this game doesn't deserve it
Feels bad I'm now a P2W shitter tho.
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What's with all the abysshits using grasp of agony times 3 nowadays?
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>>122459438
it's a good card so why not
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>>122459580
I don't know, it's ticking me off. All abysshitters are running burn now and it's getting pretty ridiculous with this setup

>3 tigers
>3 assassins
>3 dark seeds
>3 shadow novas
>3 heal damage 1 mana things

I'm having issues against them and now they nerfed sarlac people are adding that 3/1 damage to generals guy and other shit. I might have to switch to Magmar just to heal it off.
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>>122459361
Honestly, I'd drop $10 on the game if I had a bank account. Waiting on this bank to open up near me so I can make one there.
>>122460002
Decklist?
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>>122460002
Rushing is a plebian tactic I agree but desu there isnt that much else they can do, spamming small units is bad, aby control is weak so thats all they are left with.

Which faction are you playing right now? An yes, magmar will dump on abbys but then again i dont think it has any bad matchups.
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>>122460345
I'm playing Songhai and Vet atm.
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>>122460387
Well as songhai it all boils down to killing them before they kill you, unless you are playing some unusual list, as Vet put as much healing as you can into your deck and stall untill you get stars fury + wish and just kill him since they cant really play around it that well.
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a surprising number of vanar in diamond today
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Is locust any good or just 350 dust?
how many wishes do vet decks run?
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It's like I'm really playing Abyssian
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>take my Crossbones out of my deck
>immediately get matched against a Mechaz0r player after not seeing one. Ever.
Love it.
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What are some good 3 drops for Magmar?
The grow guy sucks ass
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>>122462856
>the 3/3 guy that generates instant threat sucks ass
ok
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>>122462856
>playing magmar
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Fagmar vs Smegmar
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>>122462971
he's just very underwhelming considering how broken magmar is
he'll never grow more than once and the difference between 3 and 4 toughness is never relevant
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>>122463215
also what do you guys think of silvertounge corsair?
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Guys, please play PoxNora™!
It's better than duelist!!
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>>122463515
Isn't PoxNora old, busted and dead? I first played it like 9 years ago.
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>>122463749
No! PoxNora™ is a great skillful game.
it isn't dead.
Just takes epic skill to play.
Unlike duelist gaymar general
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>>122463515
>PoxNora devs shitposting in duelyst general.
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>>122463916
>PoxNora devs being jelly because this game is 1000000 times better
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>>122463916
Of course i'm not a great PoxNora™ dev, such god-like ubermensch entities are to be treated like gods!

Their average IQ is nearing 151! That's why PoxNora™ is literally perfect!
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>>122461721
>Locust
It's currently shit, but it has the potential to be good if they buff it. Maybe. As for 3rd Wish, people tend to only run 2, because more often than not, you'll only get to use it with Star's Fury
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>>122463465
Mediocre. I've used it a few times in arena, but outside of it, there's too much shit that kills it. Tempest, Plasma Storm, Phoenix Fire, Fenrir, etc.
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>>122457571
You aren't playing full meme artifact vet if you don't have arouras tears.
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Why is Third Wish considered so good?

It seems like a worse version of Abyssian's Soulshatter Pact strat.
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>>122464793
Star's Fury
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>>122464793
I think it's because Vetruvian has more rush minions and just stronger minions in general that are more likely to get more than 1 attack off with the damage boost.
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>>122464835
But you can still only buff 3 minions with it.
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>>122464906
Star's. Fury.
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>>122464906
If you spawn 3 devils with stars fury that's 15 damage
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>>122464906
>>122464793
synergy
same reason why in hearthstone savage roar is played and bloodlust isn't
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>Lyonar can recover 3/5 of his HP for 3 mana
How is this balanced
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Can you have more than 1 copy of legendary cards in your deck in this game?
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>>122469417
Yes
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>>122469278
It used to be 0 mana
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>>122470453
>0 mana
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>>122470528
Yes?
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>>122470580
:-)
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>>122469449
But I don't even have a single copy of any
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>>122455462
Manaforger x2 into star fury into 3d wish x3.

>>122457571
No mechanyst? No aurora? Zenrui x3 but no blindscorch?
OSERIX? X3?

>>122464675
It will always be shit unless they somehow make it non-hittable by every single aoe removal. Then, it will incredibly oppressive and swiftly nerfed.

>>122464793
Because it's 9 damage out of a single card. Also, it's permanent. Also, star fury.
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Why can manaburn hit generals but truestrike can't?

When will Magmar get nerfed?
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>>122471986
because the devs main magmar
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>Songhai turns one of my guys into a paddo
>position him behind my general
>starts spamming angry emotes
>win game
Lel
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>>122454663
check the forums
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>>122474204
looks like he wasn't running juxtoposition
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>>122474506
or phoenix fire
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>>122474506
>>122474535
He was, I think he just got unlucky and didn't get one in the three turns afterwards. It was pretty funny
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>>122474636
I see why that 1 cost airdrop would be good with the repulser dog
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You're telling me this guy is not an actual card right now?

>>122472076
>have all the cards
>still limit yourself to 1 faction
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>go on a five win streak at rank ~13
>have to take a break, too much pressure

I want to play my fucking vanar deck but i know it's going to derank me so I need to hit he rank 10 safety net first. Fuck this shit.
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Silithar elder is now a 7/8.
Fagmar alternate general is a cute small version of Vaath.

Game fixed.
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>>122475081
He's the guy you fight in the tutorial.

The only alternate general we have is Z'ir, and only technically.

We don't even have the Vetruvian guy they gave us the art for a while ago.
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You can change ONE (1) card in order to fix the game's balance.

What card do you change and what do you do?
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>>122476184
Vaath's image is him spreading his fat butt.

This fixes smegmar.
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>>122476184
Metamorphosis ends at the end of your turn.
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>>122476184

Vaath the Immortal
General
2/25
Your spells cost 1 more to cast.
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>>122476428
This would be fair.
Or starts (and ends) at his turn, instead of being a whole round of fuck you.
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Do they mean average wait time 1 hour?
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>>122477789
I usually get an enemy after 3 seconds.
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Is it just me or is Diamond dead as fuck?
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>Strategy grid-based game
>Faction entirely built around never needing any kind of board control to be efficient

What the fuck went through the devs mind when they made Songay ? I killed one earlier and he nearly took me down with Rush minions and damage spells.
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>>122479395
Every faction is disgustingly cancerous in their own way, that's just Songay's unique flavor of it
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>>122479831
>Vet
>Cancerous

Vet is literally the most fair and balanced faction, the only OP instantkill combo it has is Star's Fury + Third Wish, which entirely depend on the enemy positioning.
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>>122479957
>p2winvian
>balanced
L M A O
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>>122480239
>Legendary cards are good
How surprising
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>>122480239
>implying Vetruvian isn't balanced
>implying p2vian isn't a meme
>implying you can even argue that Vet can pull bullshit comparable to most of the others factions every turn.
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>>122480239
>vet doesnt dominate the f2p ranks
>still very good at pay2win ranks
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>>122479957
>let anything but 2 lines of guys (minimum) or one line having 6+ HP
>AYYYYY GET FUCKED FOR SHITLOAD OF DAMAGE!!!
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Would a "spells must target this minion" effect be balanced?
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>can be countered by posting your general behind two minions (admittely not convenient but Star's Fury is the only "ultimate" spell that you can play around)
>completely ignore that every other faction (except maybe Vanar) can more reliably shit out instant damages, often to a biggest number of target or with minimal requirement in term of positioning
>implying vet isn't the fairest faction
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>>122481834
Meant for >>122481210 obviously
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>>122481834
The solution is balancing everything to Vanars level
Fuck high damage from hand/empty board combos
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>>122479831
This is my problem with the game right now, and I hope more people are talking to the devs about it.

The current balance seems to be "everything is overpowered, so it's okay!"

It's so common to have an overwhelming advantage one turn, and the next, an overwhelming disadvantage. There's just so many fucking board wipes, removals, dispels, and cards with huge effects like holy immolation that the game almost always seems to be a flip flopping power control.

I really hope they're planning to tone it down a bit.
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>>122482112
Doesn't feel any different from playing mtg honestly
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>>122481960
>Put minions in line
>Get them killed and blasted away
>Dominate high skill ranks where people can buy it

Smegmar's more cancerous brother, because you're smug.
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>>122482112
>>122482573
Pretty much this.

It's vastly different from HS and other card games on the casual side of things where the power plays tend to be slower and more forgiving in reaction time.
However, it falls just short of magic, where while the big swing turns are big swing turns, and that you either react to them immediately or you die, in magic the existence of instants and counter-play makes it so you can actually build a deck around these power plays, instead of just having to follow them with your own power plays.
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>>122482785
>Get them killed and blasted away
By what ? Pyro "every faction can kill me with a 2-mana spell" mancers ? Or Scarabs ? A 4/7 vulnerable to dispel is enough to make you piss your pants ?
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>>122483665
This desu senpai
How can you be so dumb to actually get owned by a blast minion.
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>>122483665
>How can you lose to smegmar storm?
>Just don't play under 4 attack!
>how can you hate elder?
>Just pack dispel and 1 damage
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>>122484679
Are you honestly implying Blast is more broken than Magma Storm ? Holy shit how deluded are you ?
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>>122484989
>v-ve-vet isn't broken!!!
>most powerful deck in the relevant AKA High skill level
>M-MUH SMEGMAR IS BROKEN!
>B-Bkcus muh obelaisk mech deck loses to it >:((((
Smegmar logic kek
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>>122485105
Can you actually make any argument about why Vet is broken ? Maybe all others factions players are simply retards.
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>>122485239
Can you make any argument why [faction] is broken?
Maybe all other faction players are simply retards.
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>>122485731
>Can you make any argument why [faction] is broken?
Yes.

All of them (except maybe Vanar) can, without prior board control, deal massive, unavoidables damages to the generals or /and the minions.
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>>122485990
All of it avoidable, you're just a ret*rd sorry.
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>>122485990
Not to mention all of them have more way to directly deal damage, dispel or simply remove any annoying minion from play, while Vet only have 1 target-specific dispel, and one (two if you count dominate will, which is 7 mana) which requires it to be close to the minion it wants to remove, and two instant-damage spells that can only works near the enemy general.
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>>122486206
>two if you count dominate will, which is 7 mana
Seven mana isn't that much and still allows you to play a 2 cost.
Also it can steal bombs, which is huge.
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>>122486419
> a 2 drop
If you're at the 7 mana turn already there's only a few 2 drops that can be moderately useful.
Dominate Will is a gamble more than anything, I didn't use it much but it either turned the table around or didn't change anything.
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>>122486705
9 mana turn, but you shouldn't dominate will things that are normally dropped under mana 6+ (AKA good shit).

Dominate can and will totally WREKT anyone relying in a big guy/combo guy to survive a turn to win. Garbage against aggro-ey/flood decks.

And vetruvian is top strongest faction, with fagmar.
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>Mirage Master enemy's Mechazor x2
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
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>>122488445
>opponent summons mechazor on the opposite side of the map
>mana burn it
>spends 4 turns getting into range for
Melee
>turn it into an egg and pop it with a healing mystic for maximum bm
L M O A
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>>122488669
Mechamemes can't be targeted by any spells though.
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>>122488927
>mana burn
?
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>>122488927
Mana Burn dispels a space, not a minion.

Pretty OP desu
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>>122489013
Ye, a spell.
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>>122489013
>>122489102
Oh, sorry.
A bit bullshit desu senpai
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>>122489103
Play the game before you post
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>>122477789
Is gauntlet broken? I can't find a single enemy.
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>>122488927
Meme burn doesnt target a minion, it targets a tile so you can use it on mechazor
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>>122489315
it's closed til Wednesday pacific time
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>subtly trying to shift the focus onto magmar again
Stay salty fags, keep dropping those weenies for me to plasma storm
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>>122489674
It's always buttgenocided vetkeks
>w-wez taek skill!!
>very skeell!
>so skeeell!!
>we're so UP!!
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>mfw winning against Magmar by fatigue damage
>mfw dealing with 11 eggs before they spawn
>mfw blasting through all that healing with my scarabs
He didn't even let me spawn 1 dervish from obelisks.
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Patch notes when
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>>122486165
>All of it avoidable
>You can avoid Spiral Technique
>You can avoid Holy Immolation (doesn't even have to be cast on an injured minion lol)
>You can avoid Makantor Warbeast+Fractal Replication
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>>122455906
It's a pretty good card for gauntlet, 1 more hp wouldn't change that fact.
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>>122489512
Does that mean the ticket I used is wasted?
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>>122456278
>Twilights
Are the fucking netdecking fag that keeps saying harvester is bad?
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>>122491012
you have to wait and find out I guess, my guess is that you're gonna sit on the deck til arena opens for everyone else
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I won't regret dusting the literal deviantart fursona, right? As far as I can tell it's actually worse than Stormmetal Golem if you're not playing a very focused burn deck. And if you are playing such a deck, I'd think there are better options.
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>>122491858
No, it's shit. The devs did well making all the furry backers' inserts shit, so the rest of us wouldn't be subject to seeing the abominations in game.
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>>122490840
>You can avoid Holy Immolation (doesn't even have to be cast on an injured minion lol)
Yes you FUCKING CAN. Don't be near minions.
>You can avoid Makantor Warbeast+Fractal replication
Yes you can. Provoke and be further than he can move them you tard.

The only one is spiral, which can only be fucked with anti-cast.
>Mongoloid vetkeks
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>>122491352
>harvester is good in control
control has no growth minions.
Harvest=Shit without them.
ffs.
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Is there even a deal to deal with 2x2 shadowcreeps.
They spam it every turn and I can't do shit about it.
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>>122492763
>You need grow minions to play harvester
What a fucking retard.
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>>122492883
a way*
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>stay away from dyg for a bit
>OP picture has come to this

when is steam release?
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>>122492883
Yeah: when I use it, then drop a Loremaster the next turn, don't make a literal 2x2 of minions.
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>>122493162
They drop it on my general though, 4 damage then 8 and next turn, 12.
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>>122492883
You can try to play lightbenders in your deck.
I don't know how effective they are gonna be desu
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>>122493130
When they fix the desktop client.

Which is still shit, mind you.
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>>122492597
>Yes you FUCKING CAN. Don't be near minions.
So don't try to do damages ? Ok ? I guess I should realy entirely on Blast then ? And get fucked by Dispels ?

Btw I messed up Makantor and Elucidator, my bad.
>Provoke and be further than he can move them you tard.
It's a long shot to have a good enough defense to handle three elucidators without danger for you general, not to
>Be further than he can move them
Considering that none of the Magmar spells or summons require the Magmar general to be close to them to work, you have to fuck off halfway through the map, leaving the Magmar almost complete board control.

>The only one is spiral, which can only be fucked with anti-cast.
Yeah Archon can delay it for 1 turn, good

Get fucked silvershit, all your solutions include managing to have perfect draws to make THE perfect defense that somehow block the enemy general for even being close to any of your minions.
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>>122493130
Literally gay furries shitting up the general.
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>>122493905
why is this allowed?
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>>122496862
Read the shitstorm with the poxfag. Apparently there used to be a general for a visual novel about gay furshit but they got exiled out of /vg/ and now they're shitting up this thread instead.

>>122449025
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So half of my opponents change their status to disconnected when they know I'm about to win. (last turn)
Does it even change anything for them?
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>>122497229
I think the game disconnects them when it registers you've dealt lethal.
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Found the Paladin.
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>>122492908
>T. Bronzeshit
I'm diamond kiddo.
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Yeah I just got Inner Focused thrice with Scarlet Viper, in turn 4 and died.
Why is this allowed
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>>122497005
>A few jokes
>DEI SHITTIN' MAH GENEWAL UP!!!!
Get fucked Poxie
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>>122498031
Speaking of diamond, I'm 2 stars away from rank 5. I heard you can't drop out of divisions but is that also true for S?
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>>122493640
>Be bet tard
>????
>Be retarded
As expected.

Go ahead, yell how "UBERSKEELZ" vet is and how you only lose to "cheap cheating eviiiil decks" while you have the same danger evaluating skills of a newborn baby.

And even the "so broken" elucidator "combo" (that, if you hadn't noticed: It's shit, it's unreliable and NOBODY plays it. Because it's bad.) has a low threat range.
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>>122498309
Yes.

>>122498034
>Leaving your back exposed to a Songay ever.
Bad luck, you got killed by a 4 card combo.
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>>122498676
Damn, so is it worth going from 5 to S? I still wanted to try some stuff but the higher I climb, the more restricting the meta.
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>>122498409
>Doesn't answer any points
>Call Elucidator low range when it can easily reach almost any target unless the Magmar played literally nothing thoses past turns and doesn't have at least one minion near the center tiles

I guess I shouldn't expect a retard like you to actually respond to other people posts with arguments.
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>>122498034
Songay is almost as shit as Magmar in term of balance but the devs have an huge boner for them, which is why they use the shittiest general in almost every marketing piece, so they'll enver be nerfed.

Just always keep a minion behind you and pray for the best.
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Does the fun end here?
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>>122499109
Songhai is not even close to magmar power level.
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>>122499842
They're clearly the second best faction in term of potentials damages made within a single turn with cheap cards.
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>>122500061
True but as overall i wouldn't even place them in top 3, they can be annoying from time to time when they get that godlike draw and own you by turn 6 but its not consistent.
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>>122500061
That's not the only thing that makes a deck good. The idea is that magmae is simply good at everything, without clear weaknesses like the other factions.
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>>122498868
>Should I stay cqc with a faction that could nuke me for shitload of damage?
>YEAH!!!!!
Vetard logic.
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>>122500061
vet>magmar
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>>122500823
Vet is behind a dust/pay/grind-wall.
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How the fuck are Amara Healers balanced? Yeah, Ima drop a 5/5 with provoke that heals me for 5 and hurts you for 5 when it dies. For 6 mana.
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>>122500969
because Oserix is ass
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>>122500969
Because like every single vet minion they get fucked hard with a dispel.
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>>122500969
>healyonar
>magic alien of suprise 15 burst damage
>ebin lizard of no bad matchups
>chessmaster drag and drop 2x2 10+ dmg abysshits
>rush vanar of infinite minions and no removals
Nothing in this game is fair. They tried to make everything balanced by making all effects over the fucking top, but I don't think that will allow it to hold up to HS, LoL, Hex or other similar games.
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>>122500823
>Implying Vet don't get fucked sideway with Magma Storm
>Implying Ayymara Healer doesn't get fucked over by Mana Burn

At least Star's Fury is a good counter to that spell that spawn 4 eggs
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>>122500969
When you get to the levels where you're facing loads of vets, you want to start tech'ing in the dispels.
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>>122501202
>>122501294
even if you dispel it you're still facing a 5/5 creature

so you need to dispel and procure 5 damage against it, and for less than 6 mana if you want to be efficient
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>>122500969
This is literally the only Vet minion with Provoke (excluding Cosmic Flesh spell) and double as the only healing spell of the faction. It get fucked in the ass by dispels or non-violents removals, which every other faction have a shitload of.

It's also the only Vet minion besides maybe Scarabs that is immediatly useful when it's introduced
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>>122501224
>They tried to make everything balanced by making all effects over the fucking top, but I don't think that will allow it to hold up to HS, LoL, Hex or other similar games.

Depends what they do with it now.
They could do exactly what HS did, and make all of the mana costs get upped on the major game-changing cards shortly after the "beta" ends.
They could add more counter-play, which would raise the costs and requirements for deck building.
Or they could just let it all go to shit.
It's nice to see that they believe every faction needs to be really good at their theme, but they need to make those themes require more combo pieces to pull off.
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>>122501504
They got to make better theme though.

No one can fucking agrees on waht Vet theme is supposed to be, and Magmar theme is commonly accepted to be "Be the best at everything"
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>>122501504
>but they need to make those themes require more combo pieces to pull off.
This so fucking much. Class cards are so stupidly good in this game, like holy shit. You don't create faction identity by shitting all over the positional and strategic concession aspects of this game.
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Oh hey Sarlac got nerfed while I was away. What's the verdict? I was thinking I was gonna keep running him since my 3-drop slot was weak anyways and I needed the persistent Third Wish target but the tempo loss is rather noticible so now I'm rather on the fence with no much time left to decide.
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>>122501504
They just need to fucking remove all global effects or nerf the shit out of them. What's the point of making this a turn based strategy game when out of hand shit has so much power? Positioning has little to no value.
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>>122501889
He's still a must in abyss, but I would dust him if you focus on vets. I exchanged him for that vet minion that can ignore spells and two wind runners. Wind runners are fucking amazing to avoid plasma storms
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>>122501889
It's a deserved nerf.
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>>122502439
Do the Wind Runner buff accumulate over time ?
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>>122502439
That's what I replaced Sarlac for. -3 Wind Runner, +3 Rocky. It's been working out but I'll admit that I really miss the Wind Runners. I just think back on all the times I've won because some Sarlac on the other side of the map soaked a Third Wish target for the game.

Definitely a needed nerf though.
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>>122502752
Yes.

>>122502340
As someone who is not a game designer, I think making spells require a sphere of influence (can only target creatures/spaces within areas that would be summoning grounds) would be cool.

I would also like airdrop units to be a tiny bit stronger, but take an extra round to show up, with a symbol declaring the target space.
If that target space is filled, as with the spaces around that target space, the airdrop unit is destroyed upon landing, while if one of the spaces around is open, it can be "forced" there.

And I would also like to see ranged units requiring some kind of line of sight, (can shoot through friendlies though).

But I imagine that would wreck the game in pratice.
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>Won 2 game in a row because the other guy forgot that Third Wish and Star's Fury exists.

I don't get it, I'm rank 8 and clearly not the only Vet around.
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>>122498031
Yes, I remember the very same argument last thread.
You're still retarded.
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>>122504561
As a rank 9 shitter, I still forget it exists sometimes
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>>122503697
>As someone who is not a game designer, I think making spells require a sphere of influence (can only target creatures/spaces within areas that would be summoning grounds) would be cool.
In strategy games, this is often refered to as spell or cast presence and yes, a lot of TCG/TBS/TBT hybrids use it. Most games tend to make global effects weak but AoE focused effects stronger. I don't know why Duelyst went full retard with things like Tempest or Plasma Storm which effectively make positioning nill in make cases and can be cast from across the screen at no risk whatsoever for what could be a game winning tempo shift.
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This game is starting to feel like hearthstone. Luck of the draw is what decides every single match. I just lost against a song hai because all that I got was bonechil barriers, snow chasers and hailstone prisons, turn after turn. Then at the last draw when I was 3 life I got glaciar elemental and voice of the wind.
Next game I picked songhai. I dominated the whole game, full board control which is pretty hilarious when you are a songgay. I just needed a saberspine + rush tiger to settle the deal. Instead I got inner focus after inner focus and chakris avatar. It took him 3 turns to destroy me.
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>>122505681
You draw 2 cards every turn and can mulligan one for free every round. Luck of the draw should be a minor factor, not a deciding one.
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>>122505681
Bonechill too slow
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>tfw vanar stacks piercing rushes your anus
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>>122504618
That wasn't him, that was me and I've since made a different list with 2x spirit harvesters and I still don't like them a lot. They've saved me once but they're replacement fodder so far. Still not convinced. Post your list.
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>>122442017
nigga you don't even know
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>>122505578
I just remember in Scrolls, the most damage you ever saw on global effects was 2 (or 3 against structures), and even most AoEs never went above 2 damage.
But the few "destruction" effects were single target, or AoEs that could fuck your own units as well.
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kek, I don't even have 100 wins yet an i'm already diamond hard.

And with literally one legendary.
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>>122507136
With dervish Vet?
What are you running?
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Bampu
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>>122511529
memes
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>>122504618
what does the number in the corner mean?
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>>122513692
300 wins I think
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I've made it up to rank 8 with this deck lads, it's kinda all over the place but it gives me a lot of options so it works for now. What should I replace so I stop getting shit on by magmar endlessly?

I've got about 850 dust and only two other real notable legos in Zir and Pandora.
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des gamu
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>>122507136
One day I will get 12 gauntlet wins.
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>>122515848
Poast decks
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hit gold because I ran into some guy who insta surrendered twice in a row.
It seemed like something I should tell you guys
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>>122515974
Which?
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>>122515848
>I started in the same month
>play everyday
>never reached gold
>highest gauntlet run is 2
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>>122516146
Idk seems like you play Magmar and abyssian
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>>122516236
How long are you playing for each day, I think I started 4 or 5 days ago and hit gold, but that's cause I'm farming the 10+ gold to the 5 per 2 wins every refresh
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>>122515982
Congrats mang.

>>122516236
To be fair, I have a lot of experience playing strategy and card games. I got 10 in like 2 days of playing Abyssian because this game is so similar to other things I've tried so it was already second nature already. My advice would be to tweak the abyssian starter a bit and get gold, people in low ranks can't deal with it.
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>>122516289
I played Abyssian from 30 to 10 in October when I started and then from 15 to 7 this month. After Sarlac nerf I switched to Magmar. I have 3 decks I could show for those factions:

>abyssian death benefit
>abyssian burn
>control magmar
I played all 3 from rank 10 to 5 basically so I could vouch for them. Which one interests you?
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>>122455462
Stall the game out with strong 2-drops and Rejuvinators until you've blown enough of their removals with beefy Portal Guardians to just plain win on the back of your Aymaras and Star's Fury + Third Wish plays. Alternatively, you win with Time Maelstrom bulshit.
Alternatively alternatively, they don't have removal for beefy Portal Guardians and just lose on the spot.
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>>122516417
>>122516479
I don't know how to play card games or build decks.
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>>122502340
>>122505578
>>122507131
>being mad about board wipes
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>>122516479
I went into abby not expecting much since the 1st thread I've seen was talking about how abby is shit now, but it felt so comfy just sending in chaff to make crazy efficient trades and watch the shadowwatchers just get huge this was just with the starter deck
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>>122516236

I'm the guy he's responding to, but at least in my case I think its a combination of 2 years of hs, 5 years of casual magic, 15 years of Fire Emblem, 17 years of chess and 4 years of fapping of traps.
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>>122516712
the only thing I know about card games is resource management and how to play decks, if it comes to building them my curve looks looks extremely uneven, so the starter decks were a godsend to me, I just memorized what they had and replaced some cards with better ones in custom decks
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>>122516604
Control magmar!
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>>122501889
dust him for the 900 spirit and get him later in a drop or something.
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>>122517308
Ok, I will post that after this.

>>122516712
This is my first abyssian deck. I used this all the way from 30 to 10 minus the sarlacs and reavers since I didn't have fancy stuff then. This is how it was the last time I played it. Not saying it's the best or anything but if played right, it can easily be top 10-5 level probably. Wind Runners will allow your guys to get 4 DMG or HP to survive against Tempest and Plasma Storm. The book is quite optional and I'm just trying it out, I had a Horn of the Forsaken before it and it worked alright.
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>>122476184
Change Plasma Storm so that it works like Natural Selection, but with all creatures that share the lowest attack value.
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>>122517308
This is my control Magmar. It's pretty expensive and I know the lack of Veteran Silithars is questionable but it's what got me from 7 to 5 during my test run. I think it's about on par with my burn deck. I've only played Magmar to lvl 11 using the basic deck, during draft and as of the past 2 days though so I'm not too good at this faction, I just happen to have a lot of the good cards.
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>songhai v songhai
>slugfest, we're both dropping fast
>I teleport behind him to punch him in the back with the backstab artifact
>I'm at 12 HP, he has 7 HP + 7mana next turn + a 4/3 ranged out on the field
>he's winding up to kill me
>my counterattack backstabs him and kills him
>tfw you win solely based on your opponent's critical fuckup
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what do you think would happen if backstabs worked for the 3 tiles behind the target and not just directly behind them
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>>122518319
I don't see a need. Why would you suggest this?
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>>122518472
I remember forgetting if backstab worked like it does now or what I just said and just stuck to the 1 tile rule til I already won and wanted to see if it worked with the 2 other tiles.
Just wanted to bring it up for no reason
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And here's the abyss burn one. That's all 3 of my main dicks.
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I'm gonna start playing songhai.
Gimme your dream decks so we can discuss because I have absolutely no idea of how to play the faction.
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>>122518196
How's chrys burst working for you
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>abyssian summons wraithlings everywhere, slowly creeping to me, clearly prepping to buff them with +2 dmg
>plasma storm
Get fucked
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>>122518874
from what I learned playing them, you're gonna be behind in board presence and will win cause they forgot to take care of the one minion you left on the board with the proper cards or if you're using a legit deck, you have the kill sitting in your hand and they don't have another turn to react
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>>122519102
>guy summons like 7 wraith lings and puts a deathwatch guy out
>plasma storm and it becomes a 9/9, he's pretty happy
>mana burn it and it dies
Damn it feels good to be magmar
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>>122518747
>>122517935
thanks. This is very helpful.
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>>122519240
What about deck building?
I've seen alot of styles focused on mainly one thing being backstab/burn/wombo foxy/ and all that jazz.
I currently have 3 pumbas, 2 backstab masks and 3 foxies, should I make those eclipses too?
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I have a question.
Let's say I stole enemy's 2x2 Shadowcreep spell and casted it on my general's tile. Will the enemy's shadowcreep tiles replace my shadowcreep if he casts it?
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>>122519423
get those 1/3 guys that let you mulligan another card every turn

help you assemble your combo so much easier
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>>122519479
Yes, Shadow Creep always overwrites enemy Shadow Creep.
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>>122518874
Songhai is about range and mobility. You will never have the raw board presence of other factions, but between your range, your artifacts and your burn spells, you can sneak up on the enemy with a lot of damage.
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>>122519423
I'm the wrong guy to ask for that, I just slapped together a deck using the cards I have with at least two ways to close out the game.
Mine is the chakrai avatar and bloodrage mask kill or any 3 attack or lower minions into 3-5 spell combo
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>>122519667
>>122519240
What about the current meta and the matchups?
Particularly Lyonar and Magmar?
I've tried playing Songhai with budget decks but the magmar playstyle was too deep in my mindset, so I really want to make it work this time.
I also want to try bold shit like playing those 5 mana 8/8s stuff like that.
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>>122513871
whenever you get a good card, the first thing to go should be a golem
outside of golem decks, they are pretty bad value
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>>122519634
So there is no way to deal with that fucked up spell?
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>>122519958
Lightbender.
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>>122520065
Does he dispel the space he is standing on too?
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>>122520261
No
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>>122520261
No
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>>122519883
I dunno if the 8/8's good at all asides from drawing out control cards from them and punishing those who don't or can't.
Or maybe I'm just afraid of giving them the 2 hp lethal
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>>122520343
Everytime I've played Hamaon Bladeseeker, it gets pushed away by pushdog and I kick myself for it.
Then again, this is just salt-based bias speaking. Card's good.
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>>122520601
I was considering this scenario and it shouldn't be that bad if you have juxtaposition or mist dragon seal.
I mean positioning is one of songhai's least concerns.
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>>122520839
my main problem with it is that its counterpart is the 8/8 metal golem for 6 mana vs a 5 mana 8/8 and the draw back for 1 cheaper mana is 2 health each turn.
I just don't have enough experience with this specific game yet to see if the 2 hp maintenance is worth it yet
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>>122521247
I haven't experimented with it yet, that's the point of these discussions.
Thinking about it it's 2 damage each turn but I don't see why my opponent would want to deal with a 8/8 on turn 3-4, the very worst case scenario is that it gets removed with a spell, getting you an extra turn to "let the dogs out" if you catch my drift.
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Why does this game make so angry.
I've never felt something like this before.
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>2 flash incarnation + elder
>1st turn elder
Feels good man
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>>122522263
Fuck You, Asshole
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>>122518874
Don't forget to burn down all the castles
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>>122521515
I guess it could work with 4 winds magi since you can pressure even more damage and at most cases halving the maintenance cost or even with songweaver to force them to trade more than one card in the form of minions or dispell into removal
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>>122522442
>Songweaver
Might be going too deep on this one, captain.
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>>122522263
Why is this allowed
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>>122522020
this game makes me less angrier than HS, could be cause of the grid system that reminds me of other games I liked and makes it more interactive.
And animations, nothing too fancy, but it looks nice
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>>122522594
Just theory, it does have a high attack value so songweaver makes hamon immune to most one card answers barring decimate, the magmar turn every enemy minion into 1/1s and 8 attack or higher minions
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>>122522263
I've done that before. But I decided to take out flash from my deck for a more consistent attrition style.
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>>122522702
I will agree that the animations look sick.
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>>122523859
how does chryssalis burst work for you? i've thought about running it but it's so random in its effectiveness.
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>>122524464
The other day I was thinkin to run a deck around chrysalist burst and egg morph to inmediatly hatch the best egg.
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>>122524643
if you can actually get a burst out turn 2 I think you would be in a good position to at least get 2/4 eggs that hatch. My current deck pretty much just stalls till late game when I overwhelm you with a silithar elder.

Also, spirit harvester is ridicuously good against vanar. Poor guy couldn't do anything.
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>>122524464
I think it's perfect for some situations in control magmar. I don't run a lot of early game options but if it's very rare that they counter it on turn 1-3 and get all the eggs so you might get lucky and retain 1-2 creatures out of it. More importantly, the tempo shift is great for stalling. But it depends a lot on the board and is best used when they have 1-2 creatures.
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>first turn
>spirit harvester
fuck this game
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>>122525275
lel
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>>122525275
the chances of that happening are very very slim. Sorry for you're loss
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>>122519260
wut
how did plasma storm not kill him
it kills all creatures simultaneously, deathwatch 2/2 should have died without actually getting any of the +1/+1 procs
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>Draw three Star's Fury
okay

>mulligan into two healers and a scarab
just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>122525753
oh sorry, he was already a 3/3 because of some other wrathling. He probably was a 10/10. Just enjoy the story famjesustbh
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>>122525746
You only need the harvester and flash reincarnation, why would it be rare.
It's effectiveness would be questionable tho.
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>>122526712
well if the other guy is going first he can't do it first turn. he'd have to be on the draw. But yeah.
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>>122526465
>turn 1 mulligan into third aymara healer
>still won
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>>122526945

It's not like I'm saying it was unwinnable, but against magmar which I already struggle with it was a problem
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>>122526945
p2winvian strikes again
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I know the current craze is to shit on magmar, but ive been trying to make a good deck on them as my secondary deck since i started. I need some notes on how to improve it if possible ,also which legendary should i craft first Elder or metamorph?

Thank you for your time
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>>122527297
Is earth sphere good, I remember getting unlucky since the only way I'd win a losing game was to hope he didn't have 2 of the 2 hp healers but he whips earth sphere out and fucks me instead
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>>122528504
if you're playing control it's basically an auto 3x imo.
my control runs:
3x earth sphere
3x healing mystic
3x emerald rejuvenators
as it's healing core. That's 42 health assuming you cast all of them haha.
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>>122528504
People say it's low value compared to Emerald Rejuvenator.
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>>122516236
頑張って, anon!

I started in October too!

If I can make it to Diamond consistently, then so can you!
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>>122528886
: |
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>>122516236
pretty sure everyone had experience playing either card games or something like fire emblem and had some idea what to do coming to this game, if you have neither, you just need hunker down and get a lot of matches under your belt and you'll be wrecking shit in no time.
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>you dusted 2 aylmao healers when you started playing because you thought you are going to play vanar
>Now I'm in Diamond meme as Vetruvian and have no Aymara healers
JUST
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>>122531581
least you got there
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You people bitching about control magmar being op are idiots,Only won 1 of my 5 matches so far with it.
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>>122531812
Kill yourself desu senpai
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>Go on a 7 game winning streak as a Vet
>Take a break
>Game after is a Songhai
>"I'm fucked aren't I?"
>while in provoke uses a on-field Kaido with Mist Dragon and Killing Edge
>After I provoked with a Primus later on uses his mana for a Celestial Phantom and uses Inner Focus. Then repeated Phoenix Fires, and then last turn just uses Spiral Technique while I was behind a wall
Why is Inner Focus a 0 mana card? This is pretty much what Songhai as a whole is isn't it?
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>>122531812
you're not playing right
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>>122531989
for backstab and fox decks, the burn decks don't run it
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GLORIOUS BATTLE
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>>122531812
I don't think magmar's OP and I still think you're either playing poorly or getting matched well out of your league.
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which faction is the best class for an artifact deck
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>>122535337
vetruvian
can kinda do a magmar artifact deck too but its not as good
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>one win from gold
>internet dies
>get a loss
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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BUMP
A
R
A
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>>122538205
pretty gay man
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Jesus this game took too long
Valuevet is so obnoxious
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>>122538676
valuevet?
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>>122501229
>Am sheit: The post
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Can anyone recommend a budget leonar deck, looking some up but I value your input the most
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>>122541163
I based one off of http://duelystdb.com/squad/community_decks?deck=vetruvian_honor_lyonar_healing and whatever I couldn't craft I just found replacements for.
Started modifying it almost immediately though, since that guy's deck gets wrecked by mag and any foe who refuses to let you keep creatures.
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>>122399473
source on OP
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>vanar mechazord
>they play this

dude what the fuck
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>>122542269
he saw a good combo and made a deck for it
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>>122542269
kek that's actually pretty funny
kinda makes me want to find the cheesiest mechazor deck possible
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>magby summons an Unstable Levi
>it keeps damaging itself
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>>122542916
STOP HITTING YOURSELF
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>>122542916
Kek
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Shadow Creep seems kind of cheap.
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I guess this is when all the shitters are playing? I've been getting wrecked all day and now suddenly 8 game win streak.
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>>122543959
what rank
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>>122543959
You got wrecked into a lower bracket I assume
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>>122543959
Climbing from 9 to 6 right now. I was stuck in rank 10/9 for a few days now.
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>>122544250
Are you still playing? Close to 5?
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>>122543950
I just keep a few dispells in hand but yeah that shit is like 12 free dmg in an area if you dont have em
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>>122544294
Well the only thing that makes is cheap is how easily you can snipe off a General with Shadow Nova.
If you had to trap your opponent to use it, it would feel a lot less silly.
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>>122544285
Just lost one win away from rank 5
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>>122544478
I'm drunk so I can't explain to u guys with the clarity that I would like.

But shadow creep is fairly weak. As you start getting the cards for your deck, and as you climb the ladder, you'll see decks with which output pressure so fast it makes shadowcreep obsolete. At most they'll only be able to get one off, and even then it'd be towards the end of the game.

There's no need to worry about this. Just build your decks.
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>tfw retarded
most of you know this feel
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>winning soundly
>confident i can end it in a turn or two, enemy abyssian at 5 health, i'm at like 12
>has one shadow creep tile on the board, i'm watching my positioning so my units don't get boxed up and btfo
>she casts 2x that 4x4 shadow creep spell
>lose

so my counterplay to that was..?
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>>122546932
winning earlier
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>>122546932
what >>122547112 said, all the games I lose to abby are cause I couldn't close the game out fast enough
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>>122546932
>casts 2x
What? That shit costs 7 mana. If you mean he cast it in the next 2 turns, then that just means your deck is weak and slow.
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Why are healfags so fucking unfun to play against?
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>>122541883
First page of "Male scalie anus" on e621
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>>122548394
did you go against me? I'm a goldie
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>>122548458
no
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>>122548579
got paired up against a couple of diamonds as budget lyonar so I thought one of em might be you the deck works pretty well
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>>122548394
>healy mystics
>emerald rejuv
>sundrop elixir
>arclyte regalia
>martyrdom (sometimes on a goat shaman too, so it's still a bonus)
It's not like you can even rush him before he heals. With provoke minions, he'll always be able to stall long enough to get some heals, which will stall long enough for him to get more heals. Facing a proper healyonar pretty much means you have to deal 50+ damage in a game.
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>>122542916
>enemy fagmar summons unstable leviathan
>snipes out my minions with 5 health three turns in a row
>I summon unstable leviathan
>kills itself in three turns
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>>122549050
Watch more gay scalie porn.
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Alright /dyg/ you have the option of punching one player from one faction in the dick. What faction is it?
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>>122549319
Baitruvian.
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>>122549319
Vertruvian. These P2W faggots sittin comfy at the top of the chain, while all the other factions shitpost about each other. Only because the people who cry the most are newbies, and newbies never face a proper Vet deck since they're expensive and all gold+
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>>122549319
Magmar
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>>122549485
Vertruvian players are the most annoying shits too.
>Baitruvian
Smug retard with too much money
>Smegmar
Homosexual scalie (prolly owns a fursuit or f-list)
>Lyonar
Dudebro
>Abyssian
Waifufag
>Songai
*teleports behind gaiaonline* *tips fedora* *unsheathes katana* Notthen personnel son ;)
>Vanar
4chan loser
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>>122549485
>that one Srank vetruvian who spams emotes at the end and waits for you to DC if you give him a run for his money
It's like he gets upset if you just get close to beating him. I would like to punch this dude in the dick 5 times
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I am feeling the magmar burn
my budget can't handle all these decks
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>>122550113
>he's not the magmar
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>>122550234
I don't think he means the literal card 'Mana Burn'
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If things go according to plan, I think I can hit sub 100-wins for diamond.
I can confidently say magmar and shit draws are my worst enemies.
GL to you all, cya tomorrow.
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Since the Abyssian nerf i'm trying to look for workarounds especially with board clear cards like Plasma Storm and Tempest.
Keep in mind that this deck is derived from a Deathwatch deck.

The idea here is to whittle down enemy and their minions while healing yourself. I plan on getting another Frostbone Naga in there but i'm wondering if it'll hurt me more than it can help because it deals damage to anyone.
I also plan to replace Zurael and Sarlac with something else maybe a Spectral Revenant and Spectral Blade but i don't have the dust to craft them yet.
Mogwai is there just so you could get an extra card because you're always putting out low mana cost cards like Void Pulse and Nightsorrow Assasin.
I don't know what to do with the Shadow Novas since i don't have anything that i can replace them with, maybe Lody Locke or Crossbones.

Thoughts?
I'm at Silver 14 and i haven't encountered Fagmars are Healfags that much but i think it's quite effective i only ever have problems with ranged units.
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>>122554779
Forgot image.
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>>122554859
3 shrouds, 2 lures, 3 reflections seems a bit much for defensive cards. I run 2 shrouds and I rarely use them. I also thought about Frostbone Naga but i decided I'd rather run Deathblighter instead. It costs 2 more to summon but it doesn't deal damage to your minions and deals 3 damage instead of 2. My only complaint is that it's a 3/4 body. Same problem with Blood Siren too. Most of the time I had to sacrifice a wraithling or two for collateral so I just put only one in for the Abyssian mirror. I also don't know if I should add Bloodmoon Priestesses to my deck. If you get any spare dust don't do what I did and make Vorpals before Revenants. I'm rank 10 with this one, but I haven't been grinding much ladder but I hit 9 before I tried to do my Lyonar dailies and quit because Lyonar is gay so I think I could get to 5 if I just played nonstop even though my deck is incomplete.

This is what I'm using, by the way. One day I'll get those Spectral Blades and Revenants.
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>>122555395
I think 3 Emeralds is too much, i always manage to put out at least 2 in one game.
I'm wondering also what you're using as fodder for you Shadowdancers since you don't have Priestesses in there.
How many minions do you have out at any given time that makes Soulshatter more viable than Shadow Reflection?
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>>122555719
I average only one emerald per game, but I don't have any other alternative I'd rather run in place of it since it's so good and I don't have any Priestesses. I've been considering making some but the Shadowdancers are huge dispel/removal bait, even if I don't have any Wraithlings out. I also run only one Soulshatter Pact in case I have a few wraithlings out and I need the damage or if I have a couple+Shadowdancer out. I haven't been in said situation yet considering everyone instantly removes or dispels my Shadowdancers but I still don't have anything I'd run in place of it apart from Healing Mystics but I already have a ton of healing in my deck. When I get a Spectral Blade or two I'll gladly throw them in to replace my Soulshatter pact and probably the Blood Siren. I'm continually tinkering with my deck though but I think I've got it down pretty decently until I can find the dust to replace some cards with legendaries. I'm still fairly new to the game though so take my advice with a grain of salt, as I do not know everything.
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>playing vanar
>wall
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Another day, another worthless pack.
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>>122556539
>Proving their point
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>tfw FINALLY finished that "collect 1 of every common" quest
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>>122556810
>you can be a p2w faggot without ever paying money
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>>122556859
>Baitruvian so dumb he has zero reading comprehension
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>>122556505
he has no clear
we did it boys
viability if the enemy's deck is shit
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>>122556925
Oops, you're right, I shouldn't have included the first post.

Carry on then.
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>>122556928
FURFAG ALERT
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>>122557219
black locust is a mech, senpai
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>>122557423
>Eclipse
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>>122556928
Sarlac and Black Locust both look incredibly cool. Too bad Sarlac got nerfed and Locust is butts
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>>122557440
Isn't that the other guy's?
Also
>not quality x1 eclipse on songai
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>>122557491
Facing the Lynoar side, meaning it's Vanar's
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the deck you build for vet when you only have like 500 spirit and no legos
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>>122556856
gratz bro
I just stopped dusting things about 5 packs ago
gonna be a looooooooong ride

did you cave and craft anything?
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>>122559621
whoops this was a response to >>122539036
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>>122559621
What is a good upgrade to value?
I have 2 wishes, 1 guardian, just drop them in there? And change the obelysks for the rare ones?
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>>122560291
as always, first thing to be upgraded should be the golems

if you have the fire obelisks, that's also a no-brainer
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>>122560486
What to place instead of le white golem of many value?

The leggo arcanist?
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>playing against abyssian
>shits out a bunch of weenies
>surrounds me with weenies turn four
>plasma storm, insta-concede
I mean, thank you, but why are you even on the ladder
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I can't wait until plasma gets nerfed into the ground
The magmar tears of this general alone could solve the water crisis in Africa
Jk it's never happening cuz the devs can't into gamedesign
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>>122562312
lmao please tell me you're Seventh
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>>122562312
Why nerf Godmar when we can shit on literally everyone else instead?
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>>122562312
but the abyssian tears are currently already solving the water crisis in africa
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Wind Shrike or Emerald Rejuvenator?
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>>122563260
no
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>>122563260
is this a real question
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>>122562194
>>122562312
Find the upset abysshit
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>no legos/epics 7 orbs in a row
yeah, I was trying to build a secondary deck but if this is any indication of how long it's going to take I think my time with this game is pretty much over, I don't even have the spirit to make any progress at all. My buddy's already gone back to dota.
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>130 gold
Shoud I buy a pack or wait for gauntlet tomorrow? I'm pretty shit at this game
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>zealyonar
>he's drawing good cards
>somehow managed to whittle his hp down to 9
>he's surrounded by his minions
>mfw there's an opening
>mfw i draw shadow reflection and nightsorrow

feels good brah
>>
Is there a single reason against running mechaz0r songgay? I know that he's easily countered, but you can still add 2 foxes in there and songhai minions are so shit that exchanging them for mechas makes no real difference.
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>>122564962
Don't play gauntlet if you're shit

Alternatively, do play gauntlet if your ladder deck is shit
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>>122565262
I got 12 wins in Gauntlet like 2 weeks after starting, when I hadn't even breached rank 15 yet
Vanar a best
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>>122565190
mechazor is shit
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>>122565190
it takes up space you could be spending on making your OTK's more drawable
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>>122565386
9 wins that is
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>>122565434
Currently my chakry avatars and kaidos are taking that space, so it's just exchanging useless fodder for another. And I'm already running the sword because that shit is amazing, more useful than gorehorn imo.
>>122565401
it's only bad if you run it like the star of your deck. Sure, it can be fucked to oblivion, but honestly it's just a plus.
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So where can I find porn of Magmar? rule34 returns nothing
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>>122565991
here you go
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>>122565991
No porn of this game yet.

e621 scalie male
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>>122566056
I wonders if the elders feel shame when they see their previous form.
Also where did they get that lighting sword?
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>>122566078
>>122566056
thanks f-a-m
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>>122566169
Look at the veteran back
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>>122566273
DEEPEST LORE
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Seeing as how we can put generals when we build decks in the game, i assume the devs will make more generals that cost maybe 5k gold or 15 shekels as a form of cash grab?
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>>122566754
They certainly should
I like autismal people financing my f2p games by buying cosmetic shit
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>>122566754
I would pay $10 or 1000 gold to play as the female Vet general
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>breaking all 3 of vanars snowpiercers in one go

fucking delicious, enjoy your slow death you aggro shitter
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>>122567971
aggro is the only non-cancerous playstyle
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>>122567613
Shit, you too? I started to build a vet deck because I like fisting robot girls.
Holy shit if it ain't a pain in the dick. I still have no third wish.
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>>122568178
I've been playing for 3 weeks to make my P2W Vanar deck. Hopefully I can scrape together a decent Vet deck before she's released.
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>>122568401
Fixed the art for you
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>>122568401
Anyone have the magmar alt general? I hope its another bara lizard man
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>>122568528
fixed it again
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>>122569009
Kek, soon.
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>>122568528 > >>122569009 > >>122568401
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>>122568401
I thought this guy was going to be the alternate general.

Well, we still don't know about a bunch of the unit art they've given us.

>>122568654
Hasn't been spoiled.
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>>122570121
Oops.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/6030065
http://www.strawpoll.me/6030065
http://www.strawpoll.me/6030065
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>>122570265
That looks more like a legendary minion than a general.
Not enough stupid wings.
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>>122569009
ftfy
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http://www.strawpoll.me/6030095
http://www.strawpoll.me/6030095
http://www.strawpoll.me/6030095
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>only 5 poll responses

d e a d
g a m e
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>>122570845
The game isn't dead.
I can't say the same about our general though.
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>>122570951
we should shill on /v/ some more
>>
How the fuck do you even counter abyssian being able to 2x2 AoE for 12 damage or more
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>>122571021
tru desu senpai
The /v/ threads suddenly stopped when the open beta started and people stopped begging for keys.
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>>122571194
Kill them faster
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>>122571194
Kill them
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Snow Chaser is such a cutie
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>>122571705
You too, anon :- )
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>>122571310
>>122571316
but their previous AoEs make chasing them even harder since you have to tiptoe around making your units take damage
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>>122571898
Kill them before the first one
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>>122571898
You're not killing them fast enough
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>>122572050
this doesn't seem like a very reliable strategy
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>>122572243
Kill them after the first but before the second
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>>122449785
Pandora wolves get either flying, frenzy, provoke, ranged or celerity, corresponding to those 5 colored orbs she's holding
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>>122571705
Such an annoying fucker.
>>122571194
It seems OP at first. Then you keep playing and find suff like third wish, foxes and plasma storm. Honestly it' not that bad. On a different note I fucking hate how abys has turned into a pure rush faction.
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The card you get in http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?action=random is added to duelyst. How good is it?
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>>122570284
>>122570518
Where we at /bara/
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>>122572480
Pretty fucking terrible
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>>122572480
I've never played Magic the Gathering to be honest.
But I got a Chromeshell Crab, whatever it is.
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>>122572619
post the image senpai
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>>122572651
It would be kinda interesting I guess
and abused by abbyshits
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Fuck you lyonar
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I can finally stop playing this game.
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How OP would this be as a concept

not specifically the monster removal, the targeting of a card and removing every copy from the deck
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>>122572761
blue means vanar
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>>122572606
Assuming this was just a tile you laid out that lasted until it was dispelled, it would be pretty okay

throw in a bunch of spells, battlecries and weapons, also vanar walls and laugh as your opponent can't get out a single minion

and then he walks up to it to put down a dispel dog and you avalanche him in the face
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>>122572848
oh, alright.
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>>122572596
Right here barafam
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>>122572801
Why is that, do rewards stop at gold?

or do you just not wanna suffer the grind
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>>122572847
>removing every copy of Shadow Nova from the deck
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>>122572983
Would be like surgical extraction from mtg. Or that other one that I forgot the name of. Id like something like duress or the other one from mtg, 1 mama 2 damage to yourself and remove any cars from your opponents hand
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>>122570265
Hope this nigga is a Vet unit.
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So it's an Egg.
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>>122572982
There's something if you reach Rank 0 I think, but yes.
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>>122573252
Rank s gets a free random legendary in addition to a bunch of other cards
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>>122573252
Neat, just got to rank 10 myself, and I don't think I have the patience for this yet
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>>122572480
Dissmiss

4 CMC
Dispel target square, destroy that minion.
Draw a card

Vanar
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WRAITHLINGS
A
L
L
S
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>>122573119
>>122572787
>>122572606
I never played magic, but the lore in the card comments makes me hard every time. I don't even understand why, but it seems hella epic.
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>>122573545
this desu
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>>122573352
Highest Achieved Rank 20
Loot Crate Reward: 1 x Monthly Epic + Spirit + Gold

Highest Achieved Rank 10
Loot Crate Reward: 1 x Monthly Legendary + 1 x Monthly Epic + Spirit + Gold

Highest Achieved Rank 5
Loot Crate Reward: 1 x Monthly Rare + 1 x Monthly Legendary + 1 x Monthly Epic + Spirit + Gold

Highest Achieved Rank: S-Rank
Loot Crate Reward: 1 x Monthly Common + 1 x RANDOM Legendary + 1 x Monthly Rare + 1 x Monthly Legendary + 1 x Monthly Epic + Spirit + Gold
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MAGMAR
A
G
M
A
R
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I've reached gold with pre-nerf Sarlac Abyssian and now I have 2x Star's Fury, 2x Third Wish and 2x Ayamara, 1x Rasha's Curse for my Goytruvian.
Do I dust all my Abyssian epics/rares and bring my Vet deck closer to completion? I'm thinking of making an alt account if I want to some other faction.
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>>122572480
>vetruvian
>2 mana 1/1 or 2/2
>whenever this is attacked by an enemy minion, you gain control of that minion after combat
then throw cosmic flesh on it
then cry as it is dispelled
>>
>Play against Fagmar
>He plays nothing the first two turns
>I can't pull off any card with more than 3 attack from my deck
>Plasma Storm

Literally how is this balanced ? There is no way to play around it if the Magmar has it from the beginning, everything you play below 3 attack is isntantly useless.
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>>122573956
Go full vet son.
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>>122574475
Okay I have 1335 Spirit. Do I craft third Ayamara and second Curse or make a Mirage Master instead?
I've just been wrecked by fagzilla with Twin Fang.
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>>122574148
How about you literally stop dumping all your cards on the field at once
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>>122574585
Mirage master is shit/niche.
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>>122574858
So what should I do instead ?
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>>122574585
What kinda deck was he running? I was thinking about doing something with twin fang and spirit harvester. I think it would be less cancerous than Magmar control
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>>122575021
I couldn't tell because it happened so quickly. He used a neutral Frenzy minion and a low cost Rebirth one and closed in with his general to take as much damage as possible. If I had my Rasha's Curse in hand I'd probably slap his shit.
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>>122574958
Stagger your drops and make him plasma storm when it's not efficient.
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>>122575221
But he'll clearly notice I am holding back and will take advantage of that.
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>>122574928
Any suggestions or advice? I was running Ankhs+Staves+Silhouette Tracer previously, but that made the deck too spread out.
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>>122575482
It doesn't show 2x Star's Fury for some reason, but they're there.
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>>122575482
Well, I found your problem. You have 3 Aymara Healers. Replace them with Oserix.
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>>122575687
Srsly tho >>122381830
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>>122575482
>all those obelysks

shit, you actually have success with those things?

what rank are you? teach me your ways, senpai
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>>122573545
>hella epic
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>>122575843
They are all dispel bait, as most of my other minions happen to be. I think I should cut them though, I haven't gotten almost any use out of them apart may be from +1 attack for my SF dervishes.
Now that you mention it, I'll probably cut a few.
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I need that edited /dyg/ pic of Yugi showing off his card, preferably Star's Fuy, please senpai
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>>122576291
Find the pic where he's holding an actual card and we'll talk.
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>>122576291
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>>122576378
Not that one but it's the only one I could find.
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>Vanar spams walls everywhere
>Star's fury
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
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>>122576521
Perfect, thanks anon.
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>>122576712
I'll make one where he's holding both once my match ends. I'm facing a Lifecoach-tier slowpoke who takes the entire turn to make 1-2 moves.
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>>122576606
>9 mana turn
>Enemy General has 17 HP, I have nothing in the fields, and my health will be down to 0 next turn
>Star's Fury and Third Wish
>Hit him with 15 damages
>He gloats
>My pal Rasha invite himself in his bum
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>>122576524
This one kinda looks odd because of the shadow of the finger fucking things up if it's there or not, but oh well
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>>122576912
You're a good pal
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>>122572761
>Vetruvian intensifies
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>>122577127
Also this
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How many mechaz0rs can you build? Can you build more than one in the same match after the first one was destroyed? If so, can you build two at the same time?
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>>122577408
And this
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>>122577515
Only one.
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>>122577531
Well, that's shitty then. Why only one when it can get fucked easily?
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>>122577331
>Summoning, buffing and ordering dervishes around so fast, the game registers you won ten seconds before the animation triggers.
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>those sunriser hips
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Best I could do.
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>>122579063
I still like it anon.
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>>122574585
Why don't you guys just copy the tournament deck? There's a reason it won the tournament and plagues the top of the ladder. Sarlacs aren't bad, but are lower priority since the nerf. Get the blast ankh with silhouette tracers.
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>>122580167
I have 2 ankhs but I can't really fit all that shit into the deck. Right now I rely on blast minions, SF+TW and ayyyrmaos.
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>>122580281
You're telling me you have the cards for a better deck, but prefer to not use them?
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>>122580469
To completely copy that tournament deck, I'd have to bring back 3 sarlacs I dusted, craft 1x of Ankh+SF+TW and 3x Time Maelstrom. And by the looks of it, I'm not digging a lack of fodder minions who can stand on their own after being dispelled.
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>>122580947
>Time Maelstrom
I will never see the point of this card.
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>>122581452
It's only good if you have mana forgers out, but if you have them survive you're already winning.
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>>122581452
I used it for a short while and I won a couple time because it can helps you get your minion into optimal position to kill the enemy general (basically giving every minion you have Celerity), and you get to draw two more cards.

But eventually it was more dead weight than anything so I replaced it with Star's Fury.
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>>122580947
Sarlacs are low priority now, just fill it with whatever you want. But I'm not going to try to convince you at this point, the only thing I have to gain is another cancerous deck fighting me for rank S. But as you climb gold and diamond, you'll see my point for yourself.
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>>122581853
So you're saying that Ankh + Staff tech is optimal for Diamond and above? I'm using almost everything else Vetruvian is good at.
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I can also confirm that the more you play, the less rares/epics/legendaries you get in orbs.
I guess it really is necessary to make an alt account to make a competitive single-faction deck.
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>>122582210
Fuck you, I still haven't gotten a single legendary and I'm getting close to gold.
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>>122518874
it's not that good but you can really get some good stuff with the run away tactic. I switched out the assassin with an avatar because I always replaced him.
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>>122582561
Did you pass those singleplayer puzzles? I got quite a few out of the orbs I bought with that gold.
Also, leveling all factions to 11 will grant you one orb each. I also got Sarlac from doing a certain amount of quests and that was when he was relevant.
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>>122582085
It's optimal everywhere. Have you never faced an opponent who equipped the blast ankh/ranged artifact first turn? Just imagine what it would be like.

My explaining won't get you very far. You need to see this for yourself. If you're lucky on draws and couple it with the +2 attack artifact early, the only ones who can deal with it effectively are burn songhai and mirror vets. Everyone else pretty much lost. But don't forget silhouette tracers.
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>>122582670
Why so many x1 x2?
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>>122582863
I've had limited success with it when I was reaching for gold and haven't seen any Vet with ankhs since. I'm at rank 7 though so I'm still a shitter.
What kind of back up cards do these kinds of decks use when you get your artifacts broken or simply don't have good draws?
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>>122582670
I have a question. What are you trying to build here? It looks like a mage song hai with arcanysts, but for some reason you have stuff like scarlet viper and primus shieldmaster, which is weird.
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>>122583063
Might as well take this chance to clear the air on Vets, and shed some light to some on the horror they never experience. These are the key components of the deck, and keep in mind how they interact with each other:

>blast ankh
A turn 1 equip means a huge lead. Opponents are forced to cross no man's land while all his minions are getting damaged. Your minions will be untouched (portal guardians even getting stronger). It gives you a heavy board resource advantage. Even at late game, a silhouette tracer + ankh combo is a very cost effective move.

>pyromancer
Fits the same bill as above, but dispellable/burnable. It's the among the most cost effective dispel bait.

>star's fury
This is the most versatile spell in the deck. It can be used as a board wipe, to get nasty minions (4 wind magi, shadowdancer, etc) in the back, or as a killing blow. The only way for him to mitigate this is to stand his minions in a line. I'm sure you see how this will be a problem for him based on the above.

>amara healer/portal guardians
All of these are high priority dispel targets. With silhouette tracer + your blast general, you're guaranteed to get more of them out than your opponent can dispel.

>time maelstrom
This is a medium priority card if you don't have it. All it means is if you have a board lead it'll further the board lead. Or if your opponent is low (most games, regardless of what you play, at 9 mana both generals are starting to get low), you can simply end it.

>rasha's curse
Very versatile, not just an artifact break. It can give the portal guardian the +1 necessary to trade effectively, or kill a weak minion the enemy is saving behind him (ie: manaforger, ranged units)

The way all these cards interact together is what makes Vet the strongest, not any individual card. Prenerf sarlac added a whole nother aspect I'll leave out, no room.
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>>122583396
I haven't looked into good deck building so any suggestions are welcome. What usually happens is that I run away and the opponent can't get me, which is why 3xtracers, mist walking and the disspells. When I win it's usually because I've pinged them with damage from my general, bloodrage mask (and sometimes the 4 winds) and they are far away enough that I can get them in a turn or two without them reaching me.

I forgot that I have 2 scarlet vipers and 2 cyclone masks, instead of what is pictured.

>>122582864
some of the cards I would add are too expensive and I don't know what to focus on, so I threw in things to deal with many situations, so the disspell and provoke along with the card draw. I probably stretched it too thin, I've gotten to 13 but not to gold yet; it could use some focus.

I'll welcome anyone to play against me if they want.
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>Abyssian running Mechaz0r deck
>He got 13 HP left
>Summon the last three pieces required in one turn
>All in a nice zigzag pattern close to the general
>Leaving my Portal Guardian alive, and not dispelled

Three wins away from Diamond rank bros. I'll stop here for tonight, I don't want to cheese it.
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>>122585332
I'll add you, why not. after all, I have no friends.
I can understand your way of playing, but I would cut a shit load of minions and stuff in general. I mostly play song hai with lantern foxes, but I can tell you tht you definitly need some spiral techniques.
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>>122584779
I must have been doing something really wrong because early Ankhs made me run my own general into a corner and losing boar control trying to preserve the artifact.
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>>122586024
you might want to try readding me, it didn't seem to work.
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>>122548438
Thanks, that's actually a really great picture
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Why is this a thing
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>>122590921
The funny thing is that people try excuse it as a tempo loss when I only ever saw it used as a killing blow on the enemy General. It's easy as shit to deal damages to the enemy General as Songay when half your spells (all, if you have artifacts) can damage it and half your minions can attack at least once on the same turn they're summoned with rush and inner focus, making board control useless.
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>>122591464
I can understand complaining about spiral technique to a point even though it's retarded, but songhai minions range between mediocre and pure trash with the exception of tusk boar and fox lantern.
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>Want to play vet but no cards
>Best cards are mag, but i do shit with them (somehow)
>Best record with abyss
What do?
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>>122593532
Who cares if they're trash when you can immediatly put them to good use on the turn they're summoned ?
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>>122593568
Make a new account because you're not getting any cards from orbs any time soon.
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>off one damage from lethal
>swap one card
>nothing
>draw snowpiercer and frost naga
>lose
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>>122593568
i'm rank 7 with just 3 vet epics

believe in the heart of the cards, yo
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>>122593915
fuck off weeb
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>>122591464
>making board control useless
That's the point. Songhai doesn't use board control because Songhai doesn't NEED board control. They have range, artifacts and burn spells.
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Why do I always get 4 white cards and one blue from the orbs.
Fucking piece of shit.
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What's your favorite card kinda sucks?
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>>122594604
Yeah, that's why I think Songays is a fucking shitty faction to have in a strategy game because they don't have to make strategies at all to win.
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Goddamit I can't lose rank progress while in Bronze so leveling factions up before Silver won't be possible.
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>>122594485
that's otaku-sama to you, you baka piece of shit
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>>122595562
*waves*
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>>122595041
Don't worry, the faction you play is shit too.
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>>122594925
pretty sure i posted about him earlier

cool design, cool ability, functionally just doesn't really do much except get dispelled or wiped. probably one of the weakest cards in my deck, but i keep him around anyway

won me a really close game against an abyssian player once though. couldn't reach the general, but they had bloodmoon priestess out, so i punched their wraithlings to spawn more wraithlings which was enough to bring their hp to zero
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>Implying Vet isn't the fairest faction

Not my fault everyone forget Star's Fury exists. At least I don't spam dispels and instant removals like a faggot.
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>>122594925
It would be cool if they made a pirate theme. I fucking love pirates.
And pic related for me. One of the coolest looking cards and he's never used.
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>>122596195
>I don't spam dispels
>vets have the 0 cost dispel
kek
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>>122596195
>>122596349
samefag
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>>122596052
Would be he better as a 2/4?
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>>122596898
It worked for Mirkblood.
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>>122596052
Venom Toth is my boy. I have good luck running one in my Songhai deck.
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>>122596349
>Lyonar have a 2x2 dispel targeting a space
>Magmar have Mana Burn which dispels a space AND do damages
It's a pretty good dispel as it's free but others factions aren't lacking either.

Not to mentions all the others factions have a shitload of cards that can remove (or simply move) a minion from the battlefield no matter where it is on the grid, or do a load of damages from a distance, while Vet spells eithers requires the target to be need one or the other general, reducing the need for dispel unless it's a nasty Death Wish unit.
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>>122597305
No faction is lacking in dispels.
Maybe vanar. But the 3/3 thing isn't too shabby either.
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>>122597305
If vet is so shit, how come it's the best faction if you have all the cards and very played in the relevant (gold+) leagues?
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>>122597641
Nobody said he is shit.
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>>122597689
You're implying it with all the
>MUH MAGMAR IS OPS!!!
>POOOOOR VET! NO GOOD CARDS! NO INSTA REMOVAL!!
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>>122595562
kill yourself you tasteless waste of oxygen
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>>122597790
They are both good, but Magmar is way better.
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>>122597641
>Vet players can't rely on crutches like removals spells
>Are either forced to git gud at the game or play another faction.

Or maybe it's just that the others factions players are too retarded to remember Star's Fury is a thing.
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>>122598396
>Removal
>Crutch
As opposed to what?
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