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Vanar is viable - trust me! edition.

>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>Forum, Announcements...
http://forums.duelyst.com/

>faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started

Now in open beta.

Previous thread: >>121944686
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Ded thread
Ded gaem
Vanar best faction
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>Old thread died just as I was posting
RIP but fuck it:

>>122146048
>Like Magmar's playstyle
>They're good as fuck
Feels good man, the shit I like in card games other than Magic tends to be mediocre as hell.

Bloodbraid Elf did nothing wrong
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>>122186091
>unironically playing the OP faction
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>>122186151
>Not picking what you play based on playstyle and rolling woth it through the good, the bad, and the ugly
I just came off of playing Shaman I deserve this damn it.
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>>122186151
Vanar being op is the most hilarious meme. Wish they'd release faction win rates against each other to just shut the shitters up
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Im ready for dank duelyst memes tbhfam
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>>122188182
duelyst doesn't have memes
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>>122188182
>>122188341
We have one right now, and it's that the magmar are a bunch of bara faggots who lay eggs in each others assholes to bread.
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>>122188795
i don't like this meme senpaitachi
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I'm having a lot of success with a singleton Chrysalis Burst. I don't even use it for whatever might hatch from it. As soon as I play it people go full retard and waste tons of spells and creatures to kill the eggs.
Will people learn to deal with it when I get past Gold?
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>Haven't touched the game for more than a week

I thought I was having fun with it.
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>>122190349
How am I supposed to deal with it effectively then, smartass?
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>>122190620
The same thing happened to me.

>build the deck I wanted
>get to S-Rank
>still 3 weeks left in the season

What the hell am I supposed to do now? Do Gauntlet so I can get more cards that I don't need?
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>>122190716
murder me
it does nothing
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>>122190349
Nigga, it can make an elder egg or an unstble leviatan in the in the corner of the map.
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>>122191079
it's gonna take 2 turns for them to hatch ad like 3 turns until they move their fat asses anywhere while their abilities may or may not do something useful
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>>122186091
>Tfw massive combo whore but your first love is junk

Best feeling.
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>>122191414
>tfw magmar has both combo and junk decks
Truly this is the best game
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>>122191506
>And also your filthy secret fetishes

Big burly egg laying lizards
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>>122191641
>secret
I don't think so senpaifam
>implying i'm not playing duelyst with a carefully inserted egg in my tight boipucci
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>>122191761
>yfw the lore validates there are NO GIRLS in magmar
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>>122191842
Someone needs to draw Magmar in a cardboard box fort with "NO GRILLZ ALLOWWED" written on it.
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What's the best faction to create a janky fun mechazor deck with. I was thinking magmar.
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>Abyssians get shat upon in latest patch
>suddenly Duelyst threads on /v/ & /vg/ go dead

As if we needed more proof that Abyssians are babies.
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>>122196050
It's gonna blow up as soon as it's on steam. Have the devs given a time frame for when they expect the game to actually get launched?
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>>122196050
>No abyss shiters
>Only mpreg maleherm cboy spaming gay scalies
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>>122196378
>not even sure what these things mean
>just know I like bara lizard men and the concept of them laying eggs and keeping them warm until they hatch by storing it in the weaker males anuses
What does that make me
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Re-posting my RDW from yesterday. Lot of people were shitting on it yesterday, but no one was willing to offer any actual advice. I'm open to ideas.

ps. currently the Songweaver is replaced with a second Tusk Boar
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>>122196505
Mpreg gay scalie
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>>122196845
it's all over the place
you'll have trouble making combos because so many of the cards for them are 1 or 2
pick a specific strategy instead of just putting everything in a deck
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>>122196050
when was the last time there was a duelyst thread on /v/?
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>>122197294
Which cards specifically do you think I could benefit from having more of? Please don't say Saberspine Seal.
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>>122191842
>>122188795
>Implying Magmar doesn't have broodmothers whose sole purpose is to breed and nurture the future soldiers and breeders
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>>122197715
-four winds
-songweaver
-dragonlakrs
-tracer until you have more of those masks
-mist walking for the same reason
+2 ghost lightning
+1 avatar
+3 kaido or gore horns
+3 mist dragon seal
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is this a good card?
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>>122196845
The only time I lose to songhai is when they stall long enough to pull off a perfect lantern fox combo (which rarely happens) or i get a shit mulligan and shit draws. You should consider looking into the lantern fox combo archetype because it's the only good Songhai deck in the diamond plus brackets
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>>122200071
Nope, abyssian is pretty shit now senpai
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>Fagzilla with 3 card 24 dmg combo that doesn't need any setup whatsoever
I think that copying spell should only be applicable to undamaged minions, that would balance this shit out.
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>>122200549
>4 cards
>8 mana assuming he does it on one turn
If he's had out a damaged elucidator for more than one turn then you deserve to lose
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>tfw abysshitter
>tfw abyssian is literally shit now
>tfw can't get past silver 15

Should i dust everything and look for another faction to be a shitter?
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Wow, this fucking battlefield. Golem got dragged under a huge mushroom, and I completely forgot about it for a turn.
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>>122200982
I dusted Sarlacs and completed my barebones SF+TW Vetruvian cancer deck.
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>>122200982
They seem to be releasing new patches pretty often so Id suggest waiting. Just play some kinda shadow creep stall bulllshit to try and cheese some wins to get to gold
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I haven't been playing for long, is magmar really considered to be OP?
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>>122201451
Best minions, nest spells, last thread a guy was complaining about only having two spells that could cause a total board wipe because Fagmar are so deluded they don't even know they're playing on easymode.
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>>122198693
If that's true how come only queers play magmar?
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>>122201451
Nah only shitters complain about magmar
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>tfw made it into gold by winning a game against a diamond with over 300 abyssian wins
>tfw just using basic cards and what I got out of about 10 random packs

my life is complete, now I just want to do gauntlet all day long
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>>122202792
>tfw shitting on people with less than a basic deck for daily quests
Best feel
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BROKEN OP TIER

Magmar
Abyssian


DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO OP

Healyonar


BALANCED

Vanar, Songhai, Vetruvian, Lyonar
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>>122203410
>abyssian
>broken op
Not after the sarlacc nerf
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>>122203520
The sarlacc nerf was the equivalent of sewing a bullet wound shut before surgically removing the bullet.
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So, what's Calibero anyways?
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I just did the tutorials and I'm looking at factions now, beyond the already unlocked cards that is.
The idea of Vanar seems really fun but at the same time it looks like something that'll get nicely fucked by other factions such as Abyssian or Lyonar
How is the overall state of Vanar
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>>122203410
I think Broken OP Tier belongs only to (Control) Magmar right now, Abysshit is Dangerously Close to Op or Balanced.
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Why does the Vanar starter deck include a spell that works better when it targets vespyr minions while only including one vespyr minion?

Why does the Vanar starter deck include zero wall-related cards when they are-to my understanding-an important part of the faction?

Are the Songhai, Lyonar, or Abyssian starters as dumb as the Vanar one is?
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>>122203701
Generally regarded as the weakest faction but apparently some do really well with them.
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>>122203701
This is how I would describe the state of vanar
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>>122204014
I think the songhai vanar and vetruvian starter decks are the weakest. You can do okay with the others.
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>>122204312
>Elder blade is on the veteran back
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>>122204014
Vanar as anon said is probabily the weakest faction, still not weak and completely useless as Rogue/Shaman in Hearthstone. It needs a lot of cards tho, as you said the basic ones alone are quite crap
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Is this a good Vanar deck?
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>>122204316
I actually felt like the Vetruvian starter worked really well.
>>122204457
I can understand the basic cards being crap, but I can't understand why the basic deck would hint at important themes and then barely include them.
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Vanar starter here, I got my ass annihilated by Magnar
What should I go for if I enjoy more of a control approach instead of going for the face directly
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>>122204797
Not play vanar
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>>122204634
>Chromatic Cold

no
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rate my dick/ give me changes
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>>122204717
Did you acrually get it to level 10?
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>6th mana turn
>14 HP
>Songay with no board presence kill me despite my back being covered

Man I wish this game actually rewarded playing good.
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>>122205275
What's wrong with chromatic cold?
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>>122205949
It does, you're obviously a shitter
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I have played 4 consecutive games where the enemy player HAS THE CARD HE NEEDS TO WIN THE GAME EVERY FUCKING TIME
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>>122206018
>Pulling a 14-damages combo out of thin air by turn 6 is only possible if you let it happen

How ?
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>>122206046
>draw 2 cards per turn
>replace one card per turn
This seems pretty likely, you probably have a bad deck or you're not replacing cards properly.
Tldr it's your own fault
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>>122206209
>14 damage is considered a combo
>turn 6 is considered early
Lmao
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>>122206349
>14 damages with no board presence is not a combo
>implying you can kill Songay by turn 5 if he uses Silhouette Tracer
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>>122200982
No, you should learn how to play. Getting to Gold isn't even hard in this game. You're either too lazy or stupid to learn the game beyond blindly dropping whatever creatures you draw.

But obviously attributing failure to yourself is the last thing most people consider, as it feels better to blame external sources like luck or faction imbalances. Anyone who got past gold can see how inefficiently silver leaguers actually play - poor positioning and foresight (if you have some 3 ATK minions out, and the opponent magmar has 4+ cards in his hand without casting any dispels/removals so far, would you continue to drop more 3 ATK minions?).
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>>122185638
B A D S O N G H A I
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>>122207575
>Songhai

They're called Songay anon.
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>>122203695
a robomech dude like the ironcliffe golems or a cyborg/dude in armor.

Honestly, everyone in this fucked up world seems to be some kinda cyborg.
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>>122207693
I'm just wondering if he's supposed to be a general to be added alter or something. As far as I can tell he only exists in a few tutorial challenges.
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>>122206046

>tfw always draw the cards I needed that turn at the end of the turn
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>>122207943
Probably going to be a legendary card like Rook was, although Calibero looks really Lyonar which is weird.

>>122207693
Also Calibero is a reference to a Battlechasers character, which this game draws a ton of influence from with its designs.
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>>122208446
ex-lyonar.
Stole crap from lyonar.
Is a lyonar leggo
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>>122200549
4 card
Positioning based.

Same as Songhai
Only Songhai's 4 card combo has fucking flying
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>>122210449
>Positioning based

I have never see this combo fails or being held up due to positioning. It ain't like Star's Fury when you can fuck over the Vet if you're careful, all it requires you is to be anywhere close the enemy general.
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>>122200549
I think the elucidator damage to friendly general shouldn't be an opening gambit, so replication would proc it, and magmar would have to heal to above 12 to deliver the combo
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>>122210581
The combo is unreliable as fuck and takes 8 mana to perform. It's a pretty shitty deck m8 if you have problelms with it you're not playing correctly
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>>122210960
>When this minion attack, deal 4 damages to your General

I don't like Fagmar but this will kill the card
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>>122211029
>>122210581
Seriously, build the deck and marvel at how useless it is. I built one when I saw all the threads bitching about it

Literally has not won once, went back to my proper control deck. That was back in fucking gold, so if it doesn't even work there then what the fuck is the point. If this is all silver shitters bitching then what the fuck is anyone listening for
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>>122211595
I also have one with all the legos requires to make it work. You literally need to make sure you have one of those replacement minions out all the time so you can cycle the 2 dead cards out of your hand for solutions to your opponent playing stuff. It's not consistent at all and most of the time you die before you can get to 8 mana and all 4 cards in your hand
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>>122211096
No anon, just have it be when it's summoned, but specifically not an opening gambit since those don't proc with fractal

That way each clone deals the damage to the general.

Basically a mechanical loophole to deal with a special case, like how mana burn dispels the space not the monster, and as such can be used on untargetable creatures

It wouldn't kill the card, it would make the combo very special case which is fine, mag has plenty of other win conditions
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But seriously, lizards don't have tits, so Magmar could be all girls for all we know.

There IS that one species of lizard in real life that has no males, the females pretty much lay clones of themselves.
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I love hitting Silithar Elder on turn 3 and my opponent instant concedes.

Ramp Magmar might be worse than control, but it's so fun.
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>>122212410
Post list, I've been trying to create a ramp list
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>>122212289
>Buff as fuck
>Female
No tits=not a girl
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>>122208234
I know that feel all to well
>replace
>get trash
well now I'm fucked, my board's wide open and he's going to buff the shit out of his monsters come his turn
>hit end
>board reset spell, multi-minion-summon spell
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>start to get the hang of it
>start winning with Vanar
This is surprisingly fun even tho most of my wincons seem to be neutral cards, the overall boardcontrol is fun
I think this is going to end soon because higher ranks understand what board control is as well
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>>122212725
This is still a work in progress and I'm not confident in it at all.
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>>122213089
for mamals maybe anon
and sometimes not even then
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>>122214717
No tits.
Not. A. Girl.
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>>122214904
it checks out
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>>122212289
>inb4 Magmar alternative General is a big tittied lizard whore
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>>122213657
You got any spirit to craft shit with?
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>>122216986
I've got 400 or so which I'm thinking of getting another Elucidator with.
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>>122217295
Get a kujata ,need the x3
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>>122217295
Elucidator, another Kuja, Emerald rejuvinators, flash reincarnation, all good choices.
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Do dispels that target spaces work on minions that have the "cannot be targeted by enemy spells" effect?
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>>122218942
Yes.
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>>122218367
>>122217536
Thanks, I'll definitely get the Kuja and I'll debate on the Elucidator or the Rejuvinator.
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>>122219812
Makantor is also fantastic but more expensive spirit wise.
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Is this good? This seems very good.
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>>122221670
It's mana cost is really awkward. I had 2 in my deck but I almost always replaced it when I drew it, so I just dropped them.
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List of cards that are objectively retarded and unbalanced:

Ironclifee Guardian
>5 mana
>3/10
>provoke and airdrop
Holy shit, nothing like this is even remotely as stat efficient AND

Portal Guardian
>3 mana 0/9 with infinite damage scaling
>and fucking frenzy for shits and giggles

Mist Dragon Seal
>1 mana +1/1 relocate, literally nothing to compare it to besides Magnetize and it's objectively better

What else am I missing?
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Does anyone know if Kripp has played this game?

Duelyst has the potential to steal a lot of Hearthstone players, as long as it gets more attention.

There's much more strategy involved in this game & the devs actually give a shit about balance. I think most Hearthheads would appreciate that. Especially the ones that are "skill capped", and know that HS is too RNG driven to be a viable competitive game.

Do you see a Hearthstone exodus in the future?
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>>122222152
Mana Burn
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>>122222152
mana burn
plasma storm
makantor warbeast
flash reincarnation
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>>122222152
Ironcliffe isn't that good, by the time you play it, the enemy may have the solution ready.
Fucking plasma storm is cancer.
It's a "Is evil lyonar controlling the board? Shh don't worry papa dev has the answer"
Anything magmar related anyway.
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>>122222339
>>122222572
>silithar elder
>crysalis burst
>metamorphosis because it exists in the plasma storm faction
Holy shit, what were devs thinking when they made Magmar.
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>>122222281
>NeoKripp
>Playing anything hard
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>>122222682
Crysalis burst and Elder aren't too bad. The problem is Magmar has the best creatures AND some of the best spells.
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>>122221670
I like him and his edgy sword and name, but he just can't fit in. There's almost no use for him because the RNG is just too risky.
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>>122222152
>Portal Guardian
>Is likely useless early game as you can't summon it + another minion
>Dispel turn him nearly useless

Vet bashing out of control
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Fuck it m8 I'm spending my 3600 spirit into Magmar. I'm broke now, but surely I can get rank S now right?
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>>122223992
This. Honestly, I don't get the portal memes. He's very good, sure, but he ain't that good in a game where dispels and general removal run rampant, and stacking him early is a fucking pain in the dick.
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>>122222339
>2 damage and dispel
u wot?
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Can you drop divisions? Like fi I get 5 can I drop to 6?
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>>122224531
By far the best burn spell, ignores magic immunity, can hit generals.
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>>122224685
No
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>>122222152
Fixes:

Ironcliffe Guardian
>down to 3/7

Portal Guardian
>can't deal damage to generals

Mist Dragon Seal
>no changes because it's not broken

Plasma Storm
>destroy all minions with 3 or less atk and turn ALL of your remaining minions into eggs

Sundrop Elixir
>heals 4 life instead of 5
>2 mana cost
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>>122225315
A 3/7 airdrop provoke for 3 is still fucking ridiculous
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Why is burn abyss such cancer?
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>>122225392
For 3? Why would it go down to 3?
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Does tipping do anything besides disrespect people?
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>just arrived home after a long ass day, want to play vidya and climb the ladder
>Pause to watch the news about terrorism in France
>can't fucking focus and I keep losing
God dammit I can't stop thinking about it. what if they come here next? I'm spanish, we're right there
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>tfw turn 1 elder
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>>122225648
They should make the tip bigger like 25g minimum desu.
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>>122225559
Must've fat fingered the key, but if it were 6 mana it would probably be "ok" but at 5 it still feels really good
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>>122225315
>/dyg/ balancing
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Why is elucidator+fratctalreincarnation combo so satisfying?

>Have 1 HP left after casting elucidator, enemy has 15 HP
>Winking right as I cast fractal and rek their anus.
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Why is Flash Reincarnate named such? There's neither flashing nor reincarnating happening.
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>>122225315
All that lyonar butthurt
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>>122224802
seriously this
AND if it's used to dispell a friendly minion, (eg to remove a "cant target generals" restriction) it will not deal damage to the friendly minion.
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>>122227413
flash - fast
fast - being able to summon a 7 when you have at max 3 mana

flash - light
light - heat
heat -> can damaging -> 2 dmg

reincarnating - not the same being it was - summoning the minion with -2 health
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>>122222682
>crysalis burst
>OP

how in the literal fuck
>expensive, which means hard to combo and likely to come out when other monsters are on the field
>easily countered,
>on the off chance you fuck up so incredibly bad that one or more eggs do survive, you literally have 4 turns to decide how to deal with it (he plays the spell. you play. he plays again, but everything is still an egg. you play, everything has just hatched and stands immobile, right where you knew that shit would be)

honestly getting fucked by a chrysalis play is basically no worse than getting fucked by drawing all spells and no minions

pure fucking bad luck on your part.
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>>122224084
no, but you can get gold
and you can also learn that people bitching about magmar are full of shit

unless you were playing a shitty inexpensive vanar/vetruvian deck in which case you were probably so starved for wins having a semi-reasonable magmar deck will feel like a fucking revelation to you
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>>122200983
That's a tentacle...
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>>122222152
You should stay away from game balance anon.
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>>122228059
>and you can also learn that people bitching about magmar are full of shit
based magmar disinformation agent

How much to the P2Winners give you to post?
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>>122229129
actually it's mostly kickstarter backers and devs. They apparently have a "trading" function that allows you to trade with other players but since most people aren't KSbackers or devs, it's basically just giving cards. I got some Coldbiters, not much really.
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Started playing yesterday, loving it so far. I really enjoy Magmar, pls rate my dick.
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>>122225315
>destroy all minions with 3 or less atk and turn ALL of your remaining minions into eggs
I actually don't hate this
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>>122229129
>p2win
>it's literally one of the cheapest competitive decks to build

ain't nobody foolin nobody
build a fucking mag deck yourself and find out, it's not a hard conspiracy to unveil
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Is shadow dancer good for abyssian burn or should I take her out?
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>>122229456
Yeah right faggot.
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Third wish fury is such a retarded card combo. It reminds me of FoN+SR in Hearthstone except with even more scaling.
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>>122229541
now /dyg/ friendly
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>>122229496
>spirit harvester while having 0 grow units
ballsy as fuck anon
if you hit a wall, start there
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I've heard this game described as hearthstone + final fantasy tactics, is that true?

I like both of those games.
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>>122230218
What do you suggest instead of it?

>>122230320
Yes, more Hearthstone than FF, but yes.
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>>122221670
magmar control is the main threat in ladder, that means you have high chances to get good value of the card of you get to trigger his dying wish.
The problem is there's a shitload of dispels too
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>>122231237
not to mention metamorphsis
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>>122230218
>I don't know how harester works: The post
>>122229496
Take out the alchemist and saberspine, add taunts or rejuvenators.
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Aaaaaand it's gone
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>>122231768
>doesn't understand synergy between grow and harvester

L...Lol??!?
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>mfw I was right about Wind Runner being OP
>he even counters Lyonar and Magmar's bullshit by taking your HP/DMG to 4 to avoid nukes
>he makes Vet scaling insane and Vanar rushes better
Literally only bad for Songays, I told you guys he was good.
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>>122231914
>he thinks that's why you use harvester
M-meme?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
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>>122232079
>he thinks you can only use harvester for one purpose and building a deck with passive synergies is a bad thing
S-silver?!?!?!!!!!!?
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Well memed!
You fucking piece of shit devs
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>>122232230
Not that guy but if you seriously consider that using grow minions in a deck makes some sort of sense considering how good rebirth minions are, then you are really retarded.
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>>122232938
are you implying you can't have grow minions in the same deck as rebirth minions or something?
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How do I buy gauntlet keys? I have one key, or I think I did since I got it for free but never used it when gauntlet was up. So I have no idea if I still have one or not.
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>>122233253
You can, by all means. If you want to waste a lot of space in your deck.
Let's cut to the fucking chase, why don't you show a Grow + Rebirth deck so we can start talking real situations here.
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>>122233312
you do. Basically when Gauntlet goes up, you can use a Gauntlet Ticket or 150 Gold to get in.
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>>122233439
gotcha. I have most of what I want for a magmaar deck right now save a few specific options so I think i'm just gonna try a gauntlet run or two even if I totally fucking suck.

I mostly cannibalized every new card I got from vetru, vanar, and abyssian for it though.
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>>122233585
Oh, you don't use prepared decks for gauntlet.

http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Play_Modes#THE_GAUNTLET
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>people netdecking dresbo's control magmar
Loving every laugh
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>>122236715
Who what?
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Magmar players, how does it feel to be literally cancer?
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>>122240180
Feels good man
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>>122240180
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>>122240180
Same way I feel about getting railed by a stronk buff lizardmen and getting his eggs laid in me
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>>122222152
Fenrir Warmaster is more efficient than Ironcliffe Guardian.
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>>122243986
NOT REALLY
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>>122227413
http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Flash_Cloning
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>>122244056
It's a 6/6 for 3.
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>>122244305
If it doesn't get dispelled. Find me something close to 3/10 for 5 mana. Even if you dispelled provoke, the Airdrop value is upfront.
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>>122187326
I think you may have autism friend.
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>>122244375
Dioltas.

:^)
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>>122244680
You dispel doltas and he's nothing.
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>>122244728
>he
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>>122245684
Yeah he.
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>>122214904
Wrong.
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>>122240180
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Is it possible to play this game with a semi-older mac (4 years old)? Can't see to open it on chrome.
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>>122244375
>Find me something close to 3/10 for 5 mana.
uh brightmoss golem

4/9

not saying that the 3/10 + airdrop + provoke combo isn't ridiculous, but you asked
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goddamnit I fucking suck at this game but its fun. Wish I was better.
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>>122257109
Why do you say you suck?
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>>122257975
Played probably 40ish games and i've won 11.
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>>122258451
Using?
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>>122258470
Mostly magmaar, some lyonar. I didn't even know magmaar was the OP faction until this gen.
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>Dark Transformation
>it doesn't count as a transformation
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>>122258540
I got to rank 15 with the basic abyssian deck and branched out, maybe you could try that.
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>>122258540
Magmar isn't OP at your level. In fact, its starter deck is probably the worst one.
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>>122258918
I've been using a custom deck due to some crafitng and drops I got.

What about Songhai? How effective are they? I tend to be aggressive, but it feels like i'm not getting the cards I need in my hand as Magmaar.
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Are server stable right now? 13 min to Guantlet :o
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>opponent has a Young Silithar out
>proc Glacial Elemental 3 times with Bonechill Barrier
>first 2 procs kill the Silithar, it becomes an egg
>third proc doesn't happen, egg doesn't die

Is this the intended behavior?
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>>122262582
It really sounds like it should kill the egg.
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>>122262582
It seems like, since you played a spell, the 3 procs procced all at the same time and the egg spawned after the third one. I think it's a bug, report it with in-game option
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>>122256349
looks like you are at the top. The best situation would be attack the bottom one and play a silhouette tracer there.
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Does playing against friends level up your faction?

>tfw all my friends are people who added me to flame me
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>>122263089
I don't think it does but you earn a Spirit Orb when you do it the first time.
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>tfw you're so high you think you're the other player and your timer runs out because you think you're waiting for the other player to go
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>tfw you're about to play gauntlet to distract yourself from the crushing ronriness of no gf but you expect 0-3
I can't even begin to wrap my mind around how people get 9 or 10 wins
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>tfw u post about your faggy feels in a dead thread for a dead game
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Am i just really bad or vanar is complete and utter dogshit, at least up till lvl 10? Vespyr synegry cards but fuck you you get 1 vespyr which is ass, control spells which can't even compare to any other factions, 0 direct removal, what the shit?
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>>122263781
Vanar is dogshit beyond rank 5. It's average beyond 10. It's actually fairly strong up to 10 because of how fast and cost effective its cards are.

>glacial elemental + ice wall
>3/3 wolf guy
>0 mana creature bounce that really fucks with big drops and allows early rushdown strategies
>replenishable 2/1

>Am I just bad or is my deck bad?
An easy indicator is if you're able to get close to rank 15 with a starter deck. If you can't even do that, you're just plain bad and should go figure out the tutorials.
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>>122264214
I'm rank 16 atm, mostly playing lyonar. It's not exactly difficult, just got ironcliffe guardian, seems a bit op, makes it even easier.

But i also like playing around the other decks, and the only one that's really underwhelming is vanar, just can't seem to make it work with what i have.

I should note that i started playing a couple of days ago, just finished all the tutorial missions, opened a couple orbs, but don't have a lot of cards.
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>>122264345
Vanar is not the way to go then if you expect to be playing beyond rank 10.
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>>122264693
Thanks for the input. Seem to be facing a lot of fairly strong decks atm, so rank 10 is still a dream.
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>>122264763
Healyonars the way to go. I suggest visiting the official duelyst lyonar forums for deck list so you have an idea of what you want to build towards. Just look for ones labelled "s tier or diamond+"
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This is my last post because this game is dead and a mate is going to give me his HS account with all cards. I was waiting all week to just sit down and try some gauntlet but I quickly realized why I had taken a break: Magmar and Lyonar ruin arena with their global nukes. In fact most of the shit on this game is over the top with little room for positioning because of over the top effects, even an RNGfest like HS is more fun if you just wanna play BS effects and don't even get me started on the music that forces me to mute the game after 1-2 games.

Sorry bros but I couldn't even make it to Steam release. Maybe I'll check back someday but getting legend on HS and farming arena takes priority.

Farewell.
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>you get an orb for unlocking all of a faction's cards
>only 1 epic left
God I can justify crafting a rare, but not a shitty epic I don't want for an orb, which will probably just give me another fucking rare. FUCK
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>2 cards and 1 replace each turn
Enemy player still manages to get the exact cards he needs to counter whatever it is that i'm doing

>2 cards 1 replace each turn
And i still end up with the cards that i don't need or i get the cards i need that turn when i end it
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>>122266174
sounds like your deck is shit
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This is going to count as a loss , isn't it?
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>>122267012
it didn't
we did it boys
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>>122267413
nice desuwa
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>>122267536
deck
also first win, my other 2 runs were like 1-3 and 3-3
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I fucking suck at Guantlet. How can I improve myself?
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>>122267810
no need to improve
just play Lyonar
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>tfw losing mirror matchups in Gauntlet
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>>122268503
>tfw making obvious mistakes in Gauntlet
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ONE MOMENT
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>>122268631
>misplace Red Synja in Gauntlet
>lose game because of it
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h-here I go
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>>122270992
what the hell was your pick that you ended up with gravity well
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>>122270992
>Dragonlark
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>>122271173
this "gravity well is bad" meme needs to stop
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>S-rank
Ok, this run was fun while it lasted
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Best orb I've ever had.
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>>122262582
Report this via the bug menu anon
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>>122263089
I add people to tell them I love their deck
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>>122272445
Fucka yuuuuuuu
I haven't gotten a Lego drop in like 5 orbs
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>>122273309
>tfw ive opened like 20 orbs and got only 1 legendary
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>>122263047
>>122273151
Don't worry, I reported it
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>>122273423
>>122273309
>tfw started this game yesterday
>already 3 or 4 legos
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>>122273583
As someone with shit luck I hate you so much
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>>122273695
Dont worry, in hearthstone i get a legendary once in 5 months
This is probably the only game I'm lucky in
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Is Gold used for anything other than bying orbs? Any reason to save some?
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>>122276473
You also use it to play Gauntlet.
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>>122276594
Thanks. Looks like it's not that costly.
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>mfw farming for spirit
How on earth could I dust arctlyte regalia? And I used it to make mechaz0r chasis of all things
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>>122273583
>>122273423
>Started recently and only opened two orbs
>Legendary in both
Too bad they both seem to suck
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>>122273583
Early on in the game legos drop like candy to keep you interested. After a while you'll see what these people are talking about
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>>122276990
I know that feeling, I dusted some pretty awesome cards to fill out the rares/epics in a Milquetoast control deck. I climb the ladder just fine now but it's boring as fuck, and building my fun deck is taking forever

>>122277342
There is a different Lego drop rate for the first few orbs you get. When you start the game out everybody gets a handful of legos
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wot the shite m8
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>>122278865
get owned magmar scum
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>>122277621
>There is a different Lego drop rate for the first few orbs you get. When you start the game out everybody gets a handful of legos
I'm not sure that's true. I didn't get my first lego until after opening all my level 11 orbs and challenge gold orbs
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Halp
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>>122279187
I'm not sure why this is even a question
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>>122281312
Because I suck dick at this game.
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>>122281352
that's not all you suck lol

oh wait yes it is :))
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You start getting 5 gold/2 wins after some point. why?
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>>122282285
After 14 wins each day you gain 5 gold every 2 win instead of 15. It's the daily maximum.
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>>122282285
You ran out of daily bonuses.
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>>122279187
The correct answer was circle of life.
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This should only transform enemy minions until the end of your turn. How the fuck is it fair to ruin your opponents remaining minions for a turn after you kill as many 1/1s as you can?
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OK, let's reach consensus.

Which factions need a nerf? Because of which cards?

Which factions need a buff? How would you do it?

BEGIN!!!
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>>122283497
Fagzilla has too many boardwipes that simply aren't balanced.
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>>122283261
Yeah, this really surprised me too. The card would be ridiculous enough until eot, and its even better than that. It's not like you can even hit with your 1/1s because in this game, generals swing back. Literally useless.
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Need help fixing this deck I have now that Abyssian is ded.
Is Ankh+Staff+Tracer tech unneeded here? I also have a bunch of obelisks as dispel bait/early game.
I can also dust Oserix for the second Ayamara Healer.
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>>122283052
Then I picked the right card.

And went 0-3
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>>122283497
As quit-anon said here>>122265396, the problem with this game is that global effects are undercosted. Any spell that hits EVERY minion should have its cost increased, or be reworked completely. Board control needs to matter more.
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>>122283497
Magmar is OP, because of literally every spell.

No faction needs a buff. Not even Vanar.
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>>122283949
-1 siphon
-ankh tech
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>>122284392
You mean the mechanist repair guy or another artifact?
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>>122284463
I mean cut the ankhs and tracers
if you're going artifacts you have to really commit to it
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>>122284591
What do I replace them with? More obelisks/blast minions?
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>>122284632
I don't know what you have available
obelisks, 1 healing mystic, 1 bone swarm would be a safe bet
then adjust depending on what you have trouble with
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>>122283497
Magmar, obviously.
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>>122283497
Lyonar's motherfucking retarded Arclyte's Regalia.
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alcuin loremaster and archon spellbinder in magmar control y/n?
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>>122283497
Magmar needs nerf they're just too strong in ladder not necessarily broken but they have no real unfavorable match ups. Lyonar could use a very very slight nerf. I think vetruvians cards need better allocation you either have tons of pricey cards and are a nightmare to deal with whether control or third wish rush. Or your deck is pretty meh. I think vanar could use the same treatment they have a few cards that are neat but a lot of useless ones. Lantern fox could use a slight nerf too.
Just a humble shitters opinion
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>be lvl 11 vanar
>get queued against diamond rank songhai
>beat him easily
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>>122286850
Loremaster is good spellbinder is good against vets and songhai but in ladder probably a better substitution if you have other cards.
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>silithar elder lays an egg
>hatches into a fully mature elder and not a young silithar
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>>122287160
Rank means nothing senpai.
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>>122287250
I feel like my list is more Aggro than control currently. I have one of each of the twilight guy, lore master and spellbinder and im trying to decide if I should add them to my list. The twilight guy would be super helpful.
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>>122287337
Nigga if you about to suggest every you've slither be capable of becoming an elder I will fucking fight you
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>>122287160
The agony of gold awaits you friend
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>>122287337
>young silithar doesn't mature into an elder silithar over the course of a few turns
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>>122287441
WHAT IF WHEN SILITHAR COME BACK FROM REBIRTH THEY TURN INTO A MORE MATURE FORM. SILITHAR ELDERS GET REBORN INTO CLONES OF VAATH
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>>122287470
gold is pretty easy while the gauntlet is open
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>>122287125
As a magmar I have plenty of unfavourable matchups, most notably Songhai who is not at all reliant on minions surviving past one turn or vanar, who can often out control the board
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>>122287441
No I'm saying how the fuck can an elder hatch from an egg

>just hatched
>elder
Makes no fucking sense
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>>122287636
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>>122287593
>he loses to vanar as magmar
L M A O
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>>122287812
dank
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>>122287825
It's actually a good matchup for Vanar though
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>>122287636
it's an elder that got turned into an egg
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>>122287995
literally how, i haven't played a single vanar that posed a significant challenge short of shit draws and shit mulligans
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>>122288121
hailstone prison and all those stuns fuck with the fatties. fenrir's stats match up really well versus lots of the Magmar cards
otherwise I don't see what would make the matchup too hard
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What ribbon should I get next /dyg/?
I got bored of stomping with magmar.
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Well, time to be degenerate.
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>>122288427
Vanars don't use stun
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>>122288830
Stealing Kolossus with Zen'Rui is the best feel ever.
Thanks anon.
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>>122288830
what exactly am I looking at here
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>>122289864
Gauntlet, probably.
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>tfw 5 win streak
>tfw want to stop playing forever because afraid of breaking the streak
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>in gauntlet, Vs a vanar. Had a good even pace and finally started taking the lead, windows update forcefully shuts me down with no warning and lets vanar win.

So many things wrong here and i just want to burn Windows down
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http://forums.duelyst.com/t/does-magmar-simply-have-too-much/6503

>complain about Magmar being OP
>Get locked
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>>122293241
>abysshitters and vetshitters complaining
loving every laugh
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Is this game dead?
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>>122293953
More like it's not alive yet
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>>122293953
Takes me less than 30s to find games usually
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>>122294283
True but you have to consider that I often find the same player if I instantly queue after winning/losing.
Devs said they will largely publicize the game when it will be near to its release.
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>play vanar against aby
>get coldbiter out early
Maximum erection
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>Playing against Lyonar
>He plays 2x Arcalyte Regalia
>Losing because of that
>Suddently, 3x Dust Worm in the deck
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>>122295754
what is dust worm
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>>122296254
I think he's referring to that thing that eats enemy artifacts. Neutral low cost minion, green-looking.
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>>122296254
I derped. Yes it's the green looking worm that removes Artifacts.
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My first attempt at Dervish deck seemed to go alrigh, could just be my low rank and luck though
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>>122298835
Remove that grey obelisk, it's fucking useless.
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>>122299053
I dont really see why as the deck's idea is to spawn dervish and it spawns them
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>>122299270
It's useless increasing the health of a minion that's supposed to disappear at the end of the turn.
The only reason for using that obelisk is just for finding an obelisk easily
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>>122299270
It's mainly cause Dervishes vanish in the next turn and so they're pretty much fodder unless you use that one card that makes them not vanish. Using a health boosting obelisk on them is redundant as a result since they'll die anyways.
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>>122298835
I don't see a lot of Dervishes deck due to how common Dispels / Instant destructions spells are with the others factions.

Though if you really want to play Vet it's a good enough start since you probably lack the dozen legendaries cards needed for other types of Vet decks
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>unsheathes katana
>teleports behind you
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>>122299546
>>122299592
Actually, I could see them being of minor use against Abyssians since 3 health dervishes won't die from a hit of 2 attacks minions.
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>play arena
>lyonar
>magmar
>lyonar
>lyonar
>lyonar
>magmar
>magmar
>lyonar
>songhau
>lyonar
JESUS FUCK
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>>122300059
Only for the sake of body blocking possibly and even then it's for use against one faction out of 6. Not exactly something you want to use in a deck where you're more than likely going to be facing the other factions,
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>>122300243
Agreed. Don't even use them myself, I only got one Fireblaze Obelysk for the attack bonus and dispel baiting
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Guys you won't believe what my 11th opponent was. Can you guess?
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>playing against songay
>he does some backstab stuff and kills a couple of my valuable minions (vindicator and a veteran silithar)
>spams laugh and wink emote
>plasma storm his field and then flash reincarnate an elder
>he concedes
Faggot
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>>122301328
Mag
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>>122301480
>Fagmar calling Songays faggots

You're both cancers anyway
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>>122301480
Did you laugh and wink?

>Magmar
Faggot.
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>>122299753
k e k
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>>122301480
>magmar bragging about anything
>>122299753
Funny enough, he's a pretty bad minion.
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>>122303416
>not liking the best faction
>not liking bara lizard men
You're the real faggot
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>>122299053
I'm not saying it's good, but it does spawn dervishes. I know in magic there's situations where you put functionally worse versions of cards in your deck just to add redundancy.
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What's the best in Magmar Control? I'm trying to build a viable one, but I'm fairly new and I don't know what the essentials are.

Strike that, I'm not braindead. I know that shit like pic related and Veteran Silithar are OP as fuck.

What I don't know is what big hitters I should be suing. Kolossus seems garbo-tier, bu cards like Spirit Harvester and Makantor Warbeast seem really good--but cards that need synergy to really work.

So until I have those synergy cards, is something like Elucidator better, or should I just go ahead and make the Warbeasts and Spirit Harvesters anyway, regardless of deck synergy?
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>>122301328
was this earlier? I think I beat you and tipped
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>>122304457
It was just now. I actually beat the lyonfag but the epic loading screen of no refunds.
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>>122304374
Damn, forgot the pic...
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>>122304374
warbeast and harvester are pretty solid by themselves
Kolossus along with the other grow creatures feel like complete garbage though
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>>122304374
If you have the spirit and you want strict Magmar control these are good creatures
3x silithar elder is a must
3x makantor warbeast is a must
Archon spellbinder is amazing
Vindicator is good as a 2x
Twilight something is amazing for control. It's the guy that gets you a random spell back that you've played.
Spirit harvester can be good in a build that runs less creatures.
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>>122304374
>I-I'm not retarded guys

You have trouble playing the easiest faction, pretty sure you are
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Lyonar and Vanar are the thinking man's factions.
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>>122305531
>DURR martyrdom everything
>HURR divine bond for 50 damage
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>>122305531
>lyonar
>Vanar
>not Vetruvian or Songhai
?
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>>122305531
>dropping ironcliffe guardian and using divine bond
>equupping regailia
>thinking
Lmao magmar requires more thinking than lyonar
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What kind of special ability hasn't been implemented yet and can be good enough for a new unique faction?
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>>122306340
deck manipulation
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>>122305725
>>122305743
>>122305839
I understand that you'd prefer to mindlessly plasma, play brainless vet p2w or flood the board with wraiths if not play drop and click turn 7 aoe. But Lyonar and Vanar require the most positioning out of any factions. Any rational, intelligent human being could see this after some mild experimenting. But I don't blame your lack of sense or understanding of the game, you too will come to see things my way eventually.
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>>122306340
Stealth.
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>>122306693
Magmar requires more positionig than lyonar.
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>>122305531
Vanar player here
I sure as hell am not a thinking man, propably on the retarded end of /dyg/, and i still win
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>>122305531
>Healyonar
>Literally spam healing spells for 25 minutes hoping the other guy get bored and concede
>"thinking"

I'll stay f2p Vet master race
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>>122306596
Like scry from mtg? Id like to see some kind of tutor ability. Even if it just guarantees it for next draw.
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The ninja Blitz, never fails.
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>>122307372
>The Magnar, never fails.
FTFY
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>>122307553
It was either Songhai, Magmar or Abyssian. Though in restrospect triple ninja in Abyssian could have been great.
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>guy plays some valuable minion and buffs it up
>mana burn it
I don't think you can ever truly nerf Magmar as long as this spell exists.
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>>122287470
>>122287519
I'm the Vanar and I just breezed through gold with 2 losses in total
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Another ninja blitz, he surrendered 2 turns after this. Observe step 1. As you can see, my ranged ratgun thing is pretty beefy. The following turn, he cast Dark Transformation on it, but the rape was not over. No, far from it.
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Rook has got blast 10 times in a row now, what the fuck is this
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>>122308153
He used one of those 4/1 assassin rush things on the 4/4 and surrendered. Well played.
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>>122308153
How's bronze treating you my fambam
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>>122308339
No one care Fagmar
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>>122308518
Rank 7 actually. But these are gauntlet matches.

Remember to play PoxNora, the superior tactical game by the way.

>>122308617
You too.
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>>122308691
>gauntlet
Ahhh now I understand
Sorry I implied you were a shitter
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How's my f2p Vanar deck
Should I add some Hailstone Golems and possibly remove Bloodtears
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>>122308963
>Sorry I implied you were a shitter
Never underestimate how much of a shitter I might be. Anyway, I have 1500 gold left so it's safe to assume all I'll be posting about will be gauntlet.
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>>122307892
FUCK OFF RETARD MAGMAR IS BALANCED WE ONLY HAVE 2 FUCKING BOARD WIPES SPELLS OF COURSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A GREAT DISPEL
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>>122309441
I think avalanches work fine with the amount of unit teleportation I have
Just move enemy units there and kill them, pretty good later on in the game if ive pushed up
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>>122309253
I don't like chromatic cold that much, it's very unreliable unless you're going for a 100% rush deck and wanna pin stuff down. Avalanche works best when you have Infiltrate units to discourage your opponent from staying on his side, I've found.
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>>122309385
>implying Magmar isn't balanced
Jealous abyssshitter detected
How are you enjoying your sarlacc lmao
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>>122309263
>1500 gold
Literally how
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>>122310241
I'm very good at gauntlet. If you get like 8 wins or so they give you a ticket so you never lose gold really.
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>>122310280
>tfw not good at gauntlet
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Should making a new account, leveling all classes to 11 and completing all single player challenges be enough to build a Gold-worthy deck of a class?
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>>122310371
It's very simple. Just prioritize Magmar, Lyonar or Vanar and you'll easily get 8 wins or so. But your mana curve must be right.
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>>122310391
You can make it to gold with most starter decks but yes. Select one faction, dust all the extra cards you get from the boosters except for that one faction and then craft the Legos you need
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Ladder.... more like........... Vanar.....................................
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>>122312105
>implying you fight any vanar in ladder
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>>122312302
My last 6 games have been Vanar and I'm getting pretty fucking sick of it
I'm one myself
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If Plasma Storm was changed to "Destroy a minion with 3 or less attack and all other minions with the same attack value" would /dyg/ continue complaining about it?
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>>122312706
Seems fair.
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>>122312706
Plasma storm is literally fine
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>>122312706
It shuld be just removed. Magmar have enough control without it because mana burn and crisalid burst still exist. It's a faction build around shitting out big and strong creature and yet it has the best removals and spells in the game.
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>>122313395
>crisalid burst
>Not shit
?????
Bronzie
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hello im new and i was winning a game very soundly and was ready to end it next turn but this guy summoned a bunch of dervishes and killed me from 14 hp with 2 cards. does anyone know what he used?
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>>122313921
Stars fury+scions third wish
>>122313395
Chrys burst is shit m8
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>>122313921
Can't tell if trolling. We're memeing on magmar right now, vets are last week.
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>>122314146
Magmar is about to be so last week. We need new cutting edge memes.
I vote lantern fox Songhai
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>>122314884
This desu
literally nothing personnel the faction
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>>122308153
So if your ingame name is Badguy, I'm assuming you're Poxnora's Dmrbadguy?
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>>122314884
>>122315012
magmars pls go.
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>>122315148
Who wants to know?
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>>122315172
not smegmar sorry
old memes just get stale
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>>122222222
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>>122315172
No
Enjoy watching your board get wiped 9 times and then get gangbanged by elders
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newfriend here, are any of the factions really bad or can i just pick whichever one I like?
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>>122315184
Eh, someone you might not remember, but we used to chat in-game.
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>>122316098
What's your IGN?
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>>122316016
Good at the top tier: lyonar, Songhai, Magmar

Avoid all others
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>Drop pic related
>Lyonar uses Tempest
>Everything blows up anyway
What was the point of this card again?
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>>122316237
Nothing because all the good spells in the game dont acrually say target.
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>>122313653
>>122314139
I meant the ones that turns minions into eggs, egg morph. Stop being so anal anons
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>>122316237
Welcome to card games
Target just means targetted spells
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>>122316478
They're literally two different spells, we're not being anal. And egg morph is not overpowered. It's a 4 mana cost "removal" spell it's pretty balanced
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>Win against fagmar after we're both at only 2 cards left in the deck
>ONE MOMENT...
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THESE FUCKING SERVERS
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Is the game rip?

Can't seem to log in.
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>>122316996
yes

literally DEAD GAME
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>blindscorch a windblade adept
>He STILL gets 2 attack cuz LEL ZEALS
I fucking love losing games because shit like this keep happening
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>>122316867
He has more than enough control with that and mana burn. There's no need for more spells like plasma storm, but he has it because.
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>>122317296
? If he moves out of general range and then back in he should get the zeal bonus. That doesn't sound like a bug. Windsorch removes zeal and then it gets reapplied
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The main issue I have is how cheap everything is on magmar, easy removal with tons of minions that require dispels or instant removal themselves.

You just can't keep up.
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>>122318079
>not playing Magmar yourself
Magmar mirror matches are literally chess
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>>122318056
Na, he was just standing next to it all the time, never moved out. I just thought that blindscorch would apply to zeal. The spell says more or less that it will turn an enemy minion attack to 0. I obviously thought that it would be his attack counting the zeal.
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>>122316148
Mexxara
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>>122318446
I think blindscorch did its job, it's just that it reduces the attack to zero instead of -2 so the zeal passive adds onto the 0 instead of canceling out on a negative attack value
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>>122319036
Yeah, I remember you. You were in my guild right?
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>>122319304
Yeah, I was Gutsa's pal. Been playing Duelyst for a couple of weeks.
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Bump for dead game dead thred
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>tfw thread dies
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Pandora in control magmar Y/N?

Is she even used?
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>>122326541
No
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I like control and burn, are Songhai good to focus on?
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>guy plays a bunch of furry creatures
>plays eclipse
Furfags are cancer tbhsmhfam
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>>122327223
Did you at least slap his shit?
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>>122327414
Yeah
with bara lizard control
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>>122327551
Scalie>Furry
Bara>sFur
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>>122326541
Magmar control already has a lot of competition for slots.
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>>122328953
I don't own a 3rd elder. That's the only thing I need baring a third, maybe, harvester
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>>122329139
You don't need spirit harvesters in control
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>>122329583
>You don't need Spirit Harvesters in control
>You know that 5/5 for 5 that nukes all minions for 2?
>yeah. Shit control card, I'm bronzie pro.
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>>122329890
You realize it synergies extremely poorly with the rest of your deck right? It kills all your eggs. It's good as a one of for emergency situations but it's not ideal.
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>>122330471
>I'm a fucking mongoloid: The post

Go ahead bronzieboy, post your epik "totally not shit" magmar control decklist.
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>>122330763
On my phone so I'll try and reconstruct it from memory:
3x flash reincarnation
3x mana burn
2x earth sphere
2x metamorphosis
2x egg morph
2x plasma storm

3x young silithar
3x healing mystic
3x primus fist
2x vindicator
3x veteran silithar
3x silithar elder
1x archon spellbinder
1x twilight guy, forgot his name
1x spirit harvester
3x makantor war-beast
3x emerald rejuvenators as placeholders until I get 2x more twilight and 1 more archon to replace the spirit harvester. I think that makes 39
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>>122331095
>vindicators
>twilies
>2 storms
>Spellbinder
>"Emeralds r plesholders :DDD"

The bronzie: It burns
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It's like I opened THREE legendaries :D
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>>122331463
Im diamond and it's been working for me so whatever's man. Twilight is super useful, vindicator is great if you're not a retard and you don't need that many storms when you have the twilights. Try it out for yourself instead of memeing like a retard. Post your list
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>>122331463
>implying archon isn't good
You must be literal bronze. It stops Songhai and vet you dumb nigger
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>>122331841
Nice senpai
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>>122331912
>Am diamond!!!
>I sweeer
T. rank 21 scrubomeisser
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>>122331912
Not him, in fact I agree on the twilight. Not on those primus fists tho.
Also, I really disagree with you on the "Harvester doesn't sinergies with eggs". Because it clearly does not. The point is, it's a card that poses a great threat to the enemy because everything he plays WILL receive that 2 damage. Harvester is not meant to be played on favorable situations, but when you get to play it, the tables often change resulting a favorable play for you.
So yeah, I like Harvester but that bullshit statement about the card killing your eggs goes the same for plasma storm and we all know how good it is.
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>>122332148
Literally no top ranked player runs spirit harvesters
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>>122332904
Proof where?
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>>122332904
So instead of discusing the card you just refer to people who are better at you playing the game.

Let me take a wild guess, you took the idea of your deck from the tournament winner, right?
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nerf martyrdom please
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>>122334108
Martyrdom is balanced

:^)
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What's a good Neutral only deck?
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are you guys really going to force this bronzie thing?

might have to hop out of these threads, shit's getting pretty cringe
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Does using the premade decks put you in a different pool? I just started, and it seems like everyone has one turn kill combos.
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>>122334603
The premade decks are horse shit since they're missing about half of the deck.
Make custom decks using the class cards and neutrals.

At the moment the player pool is all sorts of fucked, they are toying with changing it to make it so decks of certain levels only face off against others around that level.
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>>122334273
MechaZor seems like it could work. Golems are pretty cheap
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>>122306340
I can't think of too many
minions that you can pay mana while they are on the field to increase attack/toughness.

spells with 'pay x mana'

permanent mana increase that is better than crystal wisp
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>>122309385
>ONLY HAVE 2 FUCKING BOARD WIPES SPELLS OF COURSE WE HAVE TO HAVE A GREAT DISPEL
so what, songhi has only 1 board wipe and twin strike that only affects 2 random minions.
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>>122334507
>d-don't say these things or i'll leave!
Holy fuck what a baby. Just go
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>>122336661
whoa somebody's salty
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>>122334507
I'm sure it's only the two people.

>>122334603
No, it doesn't.
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>lost because I thought my Earth Sphere was a Plasma Storm
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>>122337965
Not even that guy and I agree with him, if you're just going to cry about being called bad at the game then just leave instead of whining about it "getting pretty cringe."

Retard.
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>>122338435
no one's called me bad at the game. i wouldn't give a shit in the first place because i probably am

doesn't change the fact that HURR GB 2 BRONZE, BRONZIE is just caustic shitposting

if that's what you like in your generals, be my guest, i guess i was just hoping for something more than

>>122330471
>>122330763
>>122331463
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>>122340098
Yeah man, I also hope that my generals have more than people trying to help me out. Maybe we should throw in some "I want to fuck Vanar!!!" every thread. Give the thread a couple of tripfags who don't post about the game and instead try to ERP with people in the general. Yeah, that would be great.
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>>122340579
Bara lizard posting?
Bara lizard posting.
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>>122340579
>help

let's review the full exchange again

>>122329583
>>122329890
>>122330471
>>122330763
>>122331095
>>122331463

at which point is the helping happening?

because all i see is LOL BRONZIE BRONZIE MONGOLOID BRONZIE in response to someone who actually seems to be trying to get some constructive discussion going

>Maybe we should throw in some "I want to fuck Vanar!!!" every thread. Give the thread a couple of tripfags who don't post about the game and instead try to ERP with people in the general. Yeah, that would be great.

i don't know who hurt you that you think the only thing that can replace shitposting is more shitposting, but i feel for you, man

besides, there's nothing wrong with wanting to bone
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so lonely
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>>122342003
Akon will keep you company
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EEW-9NDM5k
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>get matched against someone with an insane 12 win deck in arena
>wait for 3mins to dodge them before queuing
>get them again anyway

Cool dead game.
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>>122342147
>implying a multi million dollar rapper can understand true loneliness
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>>122342380
it's lonely at the top
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>>122342807
It's even lonelier at the very bottom. At least he got money and hos to quell that loneliness, if only briefly.
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Got about 7 legendaries my first week playing. Haven't gotten a single one in the last ~30 packs.
Guessing they lowered the chance to get one?
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>>122343216
According to the thread, that's how things work. Your first few legendaries come in fast, then it tapers off quickly.
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>>122343297
That's utter bullshit. I was getting one like every 3 packs. Hell I got 2 in one. Now I barely even see epics let alone a legendary.
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>>122343429
buy more packs goy, lady luck will surely shine down upon you :^)
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>>122343492
Haven't spent a dime on the game and never will because I don't need to. Feels good going infinite arena.
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>>122343586
bad goy
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>>122343680
The low drop rate just discourages me more from buying packs. Hell hearthstone had a better drop rate than this and I didn't buy packs in that game either.
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>>122343812
Crafting is a lot cheaper here
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>literally everyday more guys are asking how to build a magmar control
Why is this acceptable?
>>
Is this any good?
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Silhouette Tracer in a Vanar aggro deck, y/n?
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>>122344157
>not being part of the master race
Also it's easy to make, easy to pilot and has no real weakness
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>>122343812
>Hell hearthstone had a better drop rate than this
lol
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>>122345394
>he doesn't want a challenge in his game
Why even bother playing
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>>122344865
The game itself? It's pretty fun while still being a game in its infancy.
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>>122343812
>Hell hearthstone had a better drop rate than this
That is a fucking lie if I've ever heard one. Hearthstone also has sky high crafting costs and is incredibly stingy with gold. Not to mention being a shit game to start with.
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>>122344865
Yes
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This seems like it could be broken.
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>>122345835
Very good in aggro decks.
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>>122345667
Well like I said I haven't gotten a legendary in about 30 packs. In hearthstone you get one in every 20. So if the rate stays this way then it is indeed way worse.

Also, going infinite in both games I am losing gold somehow in this game while in hearthstone I consistently gain gold. In HS you're guaranteed to at least get your gold back when you go 7 wins and then even more the higher you go. In this I've gotten 80 gold from 11 wins before and out of about 10+ 7 win runs I have yet to see more than 150 gold back. You aren't guaranteed shit in this game. I really hope they intend to fix the incredibly inconsistent arena rewards.
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>>122344157
>vanar is shit
>songhai doesn't have enough damage to outdo 24+heal
>abyssian got nerfed to shit because of sarlac
>vet's board control has a tendency to get plasma stormed
That just leaves you with Lion-o and Magmar.
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>>122346230
Lyonar gets just as fucked by plasma storm with all their high cost minions with only 3 attack.
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8 wins for the free ticket right?
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>>122346072
Sorry dude but that's complete bullshit.
1) In Duelyst you gain more gold overall each day than Hearthstone. In 14 wins you gain 105 golds (instead of 30 games for 100 on Hearthstone), it has no cap and you get 2 quests every day instead of 1, so it's also more gold overall even with the quests
2) If you get 7+ wins with Guantlet you get a FREE GUANTLET TICKET, which is 150 golds. Don't know how can you say that you haven't received the 150 gold back.
3) Legendary drop rate is just infinitely better than Hearthstone, otherwise how could people take 3 copies of each legendary. There's no doubt here sorry.
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>>122346680
7 minimum.
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>>122346691
>Guantlet
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>>122346691
>Legendary drop rate is just infinitely better than Hearthstone, otherwise how could people take 3 copies of each legendary

It should be higher because you can put 3 in a deck but I agree it feels super low here for that past while.
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>>122346072
look at this retard.
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Why do I ever pick Vanar and Vet to begin with? This shit's so easy every time.
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POST YER MOTHERFUCKING LYONAR MUSIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK6xP7vJVKI
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Ugh. I just noticed the new Vanar alt general. Now I don't want to play Vanar anymore.
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>>122346691
1) This game HAS to give you more gold since you can put up to 40 cards in a deck and 3 of each which means you're gonna need a much much larger library of cards to make your competent decks. So it should be giving out at the very least 1/3rd more gold than hearthstone to be comparable, maybe a little more than that.
2) A ticket doesn't mean anything if you already go infinite and neither does dust since you're gonna get all the cards through grinding arena anyway. It'd be much better to just take the gold since a losing streak (which happens even for an infinite player) could kill your ability to re enter the arena
3) Obviously my rate of acquiring legendaries is anecdotal but I haven't seen any concrete numbers unlike in hearthstone so I can only go on that. But when you can put up to 3 of the same legendary cards per deck it should be so much higher than hearthstone I'd be seeing them once every 5 packs or so.
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>>122347757
where the pics at
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>>122347757
>we want to appeal to the tumblr audience

First blizzard and now this game. Will it end?
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>>122347757
>Vanar general has a gun
>no ranged artifacts
>Vitruvian uses a staff
>has blast
>Songhai uses swords
>has ranged
????
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>>122347982
>no one ever wants to appeal to the 4chan audience
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>>122347757
new vanar?
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>>122348204
Strong woman don't need no man with her half shaved head for edgyness.
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>>122348432
What the fuck?
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>>122348432
What the fuck. They really need to get another artist to do the faces, this is flat out disgusting
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>>122347757
What's with the alt generals anyway?
They will add them to the game or is just some random useless art.
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>>122348524
The devs are appealing to the tumblr crowd now. Get used to it.

>>122348575
Check your privilege shitlord. She is BEAUTIFUL AND STRONG.
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>>122348432
>>122348683
So it's not just me who thought she has the same head as the Abyssinian general.
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>>122348575
The art is stylized in such a way that makes all the generals look weird as fuck.
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>>122348863
The artist just sucks at drawing humans in general.
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So how shit is this pack?

>>122348863
This, I'm not a fan of this game's artwork but the pixels are very nice
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>>122348863
My point still stands, it's disgusting. The dude can clearly draw, you'd need a pretty good grasp on construction to draw the rest of that picture. But the way he draws faces is terrible. I really wish someone else would do it, I'm sure it would generate more interest in the game if the generals just looked more attractive.
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>>122349214
pretty shit
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>>122349128
>>122349214
If this is what a paladin looks like in Duelyst, then I'm not sure I want to do with any holy orders.
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Cute loli general fucking when
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>>122349959
Fucking never, old and busted generals only in this game
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>>122350668
Anon... I need a loli general...
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>>122350754
Think about it. Would you really want a a little girl general in this art style?
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>>122350958
They probably could make her look nice.
Vetruvian skelly alien loli would be great.
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>>122351140
The female Vetruvian general is actually pretty cute.

Almost makes me regret dusting all my Vet cards.
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>>122351253
Show me
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>>122351253
Where are you guys finding these pics?
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>>122351332


>>122351375
On the forums.
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>>122351905
The body/armor is nice, but boobs and the face are pretty shitty desu
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>>122351905
Well thank god he didn't have to draw any faces, she looks good here.
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>>122352135
I kinda like it. She looks like an extremely fancy mannequin. The sword can fuck off, though.
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>>122351905
Shit that looks really cool.
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>>122351905
Looks good.

>>122348432
Looks horrible. I think this haircut can be ok- I like Johanna from HotS. But this art is just fucking disgusting- there's nothing appealing about it.
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>>122347257
is poxnora actually fun? I don't like the aesthetics.
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I started tonight and some how got dupes on a legendary. Guess I will play Magmar.
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>Some of your Spells and Minions have high costs for their effects.
>Your Minions may take a while to reach your opponent unless you’re playing with lots of Rush.
>It’s difficult to remove your opponent’s Artifacts.
>You don’t have extra card draw outside of neutral cards.
>Many of your Spells and Minion effects can damage or destroy your Minions. Some can also damage your General!
These are sufficient weaknesses for the Magmar?
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>Lyonar quest
>I fucking hate this faction
>finish it
>get this, as an Abyssian player
Fuck you game
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>>122354229
Magmar players are literally cancer. No faction deserves all those control spells. Not to mention grow AND rebirth?
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>>122354386
how is that bad?
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>>122354524
Would've been appreciated before they nerfed it.
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How many wins do you need for Gauntlet to be worth it?
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>>122354839
that's 900 free spirit right there. you can take any legend you want.
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>>122354914
Oh shit you're right, I forgot full spirit refunds was still active.
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>>122354906
The wiki says you need seven Gauntlet wins to earn a free Gauntlet ticket, if that's what you mean.
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>>122351905
>Vetruvian have the best Generals

Master race wins again
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>>122352912
PoxNora is the best turn based strategy TCG to have ever been created basically. Also, I am surprised you've decided you don't like a game's aesthetics when hundreds of artists have been involved since like 2006 and there's 2200+ cards total.
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>>122354906
You break even at 3
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>>122351905
Link to thread? I'm retarded and can't find it.
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>>122347757
>not wanting to play a faction because an alt-costume looks bad

How fucking fickle do you have to be?
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>>122355853
Duelysts Artwork and Wallpaper or something
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>>122355515
>Not wanting a redhead snowbunny general
m8
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>>122348432
>>122348683
>>122355967
Every fuckin' female general with a visible face has that same curled lip snarl. It's getting annoying.
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>>122355967
And I just now noticed she has prosthetic forearms.
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>>122356163
You didn't see them in the OP image?
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>>122356163
And legs
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>>122354387
I just recently started and was glancing through each faction. Magmar immediately came across as the "giant stompy creatures and aggro" faction, much like Green in Magic: the Gathering. I was not aware they have access to such insane board control and whatever else people are bitching about.
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>>122356304
I thought those were just boots.
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>>122356439
>just recently started
Then it's time to choose magmar. No reason to gimp yourself
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>>122356439
Its minions are only average. Its spells are insanely broken.
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>>122356541
>thought it was a loli with a big head and pigtails from the thumbnail
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>>122356549
>wanting to be a casual playing the easiest faction

LOL
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>>122356735
>wanting to bring a knife to a gunfight
I want to be hardcore but my mom won't let me
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>>122356781
>fagmar thinks duelyst is a real life-or-death situation and not a game

LOL
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>tfw perfect opening
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I just pulled a Paddo, is he alright or just junk? Seems whatever.
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>>122357398
>Enemy Abyssian general has a giant 10/10 creature that continually gets bigger
>Turn it into a 3/3 wolf
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>>122357646
>mana burn
>it's dead
Just play magmar
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>start first game of the day
>connection problems
t-thanks
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>>122357545
It's super-dirty board control, from the looks of it. You can disrupt an entire skirmsh by dropping that guy in the middle of it. Now everyone is out of position, and you still have a 12/6 on the field.
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>>122357545
Too expensive, and he never gets to use that 12 attack.
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>>122357839
That too. Even after he disrupts the board, there's no way anyone will let you swing with that guy.
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Songay getting btfo
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finally

now I can stop playing this shitty game for two weeks
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>>122358718
>Stopping at rank 5.
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>>122358718
>stopping at diamond safety net
Might as well just get to S rank
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>Play against magmar
>Manaburns a Crystal Wisp
>Spams cry emotes constantly
>Still wins because few natural selections and Growth minions is all it takes to win

Epic
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>>122359803
Get rekt fag
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>enemy drops a bunch of low attack minions and empties his hand
>plasma storm
Is there a better feel?
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>>122360367
yeah

winning as a non-magmar
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>>122360367
>be Vanar
>drop host of little shits
>Magmar is already pissing himself in joy while looking at his plasma
>Razorback
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I think Plasma Storm needs to be nerfed down to 2 damage, it's really easy to wipe the board during early game when you can only put out 2 to 3 damage minions.
Also fuck tempest.
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>>122362219
Considering Magmar relies on giant bomb minions, it's not surprising Plasma Storm would burn everything for 3: only Magmar creatures would survive the blast.
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>>122357545
My buddy got him as a drop, seems to work amazing in songhai keep away decks, really draws the game out and functions perfectly as a last ditch mixup to buy you that extra time when someone closes in on you. Plus he becomes the immediate target of all removal late game, baiting out all remaining spells or forcing minions to kamikaze
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>>122356735
That's not Abyssian
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>>122354386
Are you fucking retarded
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>>122363067
But isn't that the point?
It's an ez mode that doesn't punish you for anything.
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>>122362219
assblasted vanar detected
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Any advice for my deck that I'm hovering around rank 12 with? I want to add a couple Spectral Revenants, a Spectral Blade or two, and maybe some other stuff but I'm not sure what. I feel like my Breath of the Unborn doesn't really help me enough to justify keeping it in a deck since mostly when I use it I either have no minions or some wraithlings so it's just a 4 mana 2 damage spell. I also want to get rid of my Shieldmaster and maybe my Horn of the Forsakens, but I can't think of anything to replace them with. I'd like to add something that has synergy with pumping wraithlings out or shadow creep since I really like the mechanic but Abyssal Juggernaut is very useless. I thought about Bloodmoon Priestess but I rarely get Shadowdancers out longer than one turn. Would Priestesses still be good if I can summon, say, 3-5 wraithlings before it dies?

Keep in mind I have 500 spirit if I disenchant my Mogwai, Wildfire Ankh, Lux Ignis, Captain Hank Hart, and Spirit of the Wild. I wouldn't mind disenchanting the last three if I absolutely need something but I'd like to have the other two in my book in case I branch out to Vetruvian or Mogwai becomes good or something.
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>>122364579
You should replace your Wraithling Fury with Shadow Reflection, you can combo it with Nightsorrow Assassin for 9 damage for only 6 mana. Remove Breath of the Unborn because it's useless. Priestesses are good since the wraithlings are fodder, you're definitely fucked though with Plasma Storm and Tempest.
Also Remove 1 Shadow Nova, 2 copies should be enough.

I don't know what kind of deck you're doing here because it looks like a mix of deathwatch/creep focused more on creep because of your removals and sustain cards.
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>>122365612
I've kind of just come to terms with Plasma Storm ruining my deck and I never see Lyonars, let alone ones that use Tempest on me. I originally wanted to do a burn type deck with Shadowdancer, Void Pulse, and Shadow Nova, but I added cards that worked with Shadowdancer and kind of went from there to what I have now. I think I should have a lot of ways to keep things that I don't want near me away, but I might drop the Repulsor and one-of the Ephemeral Shroud because I rarely use them, but I have nothing to substitute them with. Do you think Primus Fist to make my Wraithlings a bit more deadly would work?
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>>122365612
As I say this I get matched against a Lyonar who Tempests my 7 wraithlings and am just matched up against another. That Shadow Reflection+Nightsorrow Assassin thing is disgusting too, I don't know why it never occurred to me. Won me a nice game from it.
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>>122366026
I prefer Soulshatter Pact but Primus Fist works too if you need the extra minion.
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>>122367816
I'm kind of reluctant to do either because I can barely keep wraithlings on the field for any sort of combo. I might just switch to an aggro as fuck deck and hit them until they die but I really like Shadowdancer combos.
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>>122368273
Abyssian is really shit tier right now, thanks to fucking board clear cards.
But a creep deck works just fine, you'll have to play like a pussyfaggot though.
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>>122370204
I like the cards the class has more than any other class right now. I kind of wish the game didn't have so much removal though, every time I play a Vorpal it gets removed or every time I play a Shadowdancer it gets dispelled immediately. No exceptions.
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>get to 11
>lose
>fall back down to 12
>immediately win a game or two and go back up
>lose and fall back down
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>mfw winning fagmar with abyssian
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Objective tier list

>Broken Tier
Magmar

>Good Tier
Lyonar
Vetruvian

>Okay Tier
Songhai
Vanar

>Shit Tier
Abyssian
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How did Sarlac nerf make Abyssian into shit tier from its supposed broken/high tier?
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>>122355557
PoxNora is also a horribly dead P2W shitshow of a game
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>>122358634
>breaks a wall, summons a *teleport behind u* flying girl, tps it behind you
>Inner once,, then inner again
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>>122372801
why would he need to teleport a flying unit
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>>122373045
Probably because of the provoke minions
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>>122373045
Because it gives it +1 attack(3+4=7).

You don't need the inner again.
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>>122372498
Because it's a faction built around deathwatch and shitty low stats minions to fill stacks, both of which sarlac filled. Honestly, I never lost against an abyss since the nerf, I'm starting to think that perhaps making him abys exclusive wasn't such a bad idea.
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>>122373867
Rank and faction?
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>>122373867
I haven't even PLAYED against an Abyssian outside of Gauntlet since the nerf.
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Got 1000 or so spirits after dusting a Silithar Elder, which Legendary should I craft next ? A third Aymara Healer ? A second third wish ?
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>>122374109
How do you view your decklist like that?
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>>122374189
duelystdb.com
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>>122374189
duelystdb -> Squad Builder > Render your squad as signature form

Or something.
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>>122374270
Thanks. I didn't know what that meant so I just exported mine as a rendered image
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>healonar drops dancing blades behind my minion
>laugh emote
>he concedes
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>>122374651
>wraithling swarm and use two darkfire sacrfice and drop vorpal
>vanar uses 70% of his turn doing nothing and realizes he can get rid of it
>does the proper thing
>before he can actually hit it his turn runs out because of animations
>I have Shadow Reflection in hand
>he just concedes instead of letting me bonk him with my vorpal reaver
I audibly chuckled
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>>122374651
>being matched against people that don't even know how the front stuff works
Bronze, please.
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>tfw stuck at rank 5

I guess I deserve this for picking Vanar
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>>122375840
What's your deck like? I've been trying to get a decent Vanar deck set up, preferably without relying COMPLETELY on infiltrate.
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>>122375717
that was at rank 6
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>>122375915
Here

Sometimes I swap the Glacials for Snowpiercers
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Is Gravity Well good?

Why/why not?
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I didn't know that you could play so much that your 15 per 2 win gold goes down to 5. This explains why I've been 2 wins off of a pack for 4 wins
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>>122376793
Locke + bonechill is just better
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>Dominate Abysshit early game
>Absolute shit draws for 5 turns afterward, literally can't play shit because he destroys whatever minion I lay down with perfect draws
>Die because Shadow Meme

Fuck Abysshit, they're literally rewarded for playing like shit.
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>>122377376
>2 cards and 5 mana is better than 1 card and 3 mana
>just because the walls do 1 damage

no
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>>122377506
Your deck is probably shit m8
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>forced to lose games until level 10 to get board wiped
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>>122374651
>drop dancing blades in front of oculus
>it buffs itself out of kill range before being hit
just fuck my shit up
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>>122377629
>>122374109
More of less this one, with a Black Locust and another Lightbender.

I just had fuck all card that could do something productive while I had the advantage.
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>>122377506
Get good
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>>122377506
But if they get rewarded for playing bad and not good, doesnt it mean their "bad" play is good
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>>122377819
I feel like this shouldn't happen

The 3 damage is an Opening Gambit, so it should happen before it's summoned

Oculus' effect activates on a summoning, i.e. after the 3 damage
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>>122377949
Not if they have both cards rewarding playing good if they're playing good and playing bad if they're playing bad
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This is some ol' Hearthstone shit.
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>>122377996
I actually sent a message over the bug report thing a while back about this
I got a reply saying that the dancing blades needs to know positioning for it's effect to work properly so it will buff oculus even though it's a gambit
which is really lame
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>>122377996
Opening gambit is basically mtgs "when this comes into play." Meaning that first the unit is summoned, triggering the boost. Then the unit comes into play, triggering opening gambit.
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>>122377996
>>122378095
Kind of similarly, I Dark Transformation'd a Slithar Veteran and my Wraithling took the spot before his egg could. Thought it was neat.
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How many quests can stack up at a time?
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This reminds me.

I'm this anon here: >>122262582

I got a reply and they said it isn't a bug. The three activations of Glacial Elemental happen "simultaneously", so the egg doesn't spawn until after.

Lame, but whatever.
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>>122378453
Makes sense to me. They seem to have very Mtg-like rules under the hood.
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Why does this faction have the least number of spell to remove enemy minions for play, the biggest weakness to dispel, and a killer combo that is entirely dependent on the other player being retarded ?
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>>122377519
it can fill that niche while being more useful because muh vespyrs. You can combo bonechil and locke, you can't use gravity well for that. So yes, it's better in the general view.
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>>122378083
At least sun bloom and starfire are useful. I keep getting that lyonar guy with knuckles.
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>>122378702
Because it has portal guardians, blast and ayyyy healers, which are 10/10 minions
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>>122378986
>portal guardians
Literally dispel bait

>blast
Every other faction have a dozen way to kill or dispel a minion for afar or, at the very least, deal 1 damages to them for a cheap mana cost. Pyromancers will almost never be useful. Scarabs are great but 5 mana is too fucking high, especially considering the weakness they have against Ranged minions, which is absolute bullshit.

>ayyyy healers
11/10 minion and waifu
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>>122379168
>Literally dispel bait
True, but almost every single minion in vetru is dispel bait. It's their charm, and that's why you have sand howler after all.
>pyromancers
They are there to eat dispels. Devs should start counting the times that they can attack because it's next to impossible. Scarabs are fucking amazing though, even if they are costly they never disapoint. I almost never see ranged minions, so that weakness isn't that bad.
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Am I always going to get results this good or was I abnormally lucky with this?
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>>122358634
>>122372801
>>122373045
He can't summon shit when he's blocked from all directions
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>>122380390
what is this, gauntlet?
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This is me at rank 13-14 getting all the factions to level 11 before I try to craft anything.
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Is he good anons? He seems to fuck over obelisks and stuff like sarlac, but I never saw him.
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>>122380830
DIspel bait, but he's alright.
>>
Should I dust Oserix and craft a second Ayyyyamara? I don't currently use him in my deck.
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>>122380760
That's wise. I rushed to gold and now I'm sitting here getting shat on by everyone with legos and full decks.
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>>122380940
Probably.
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>>122380830
i run 2 in my deck just because i think he looks cool

he's generally not great, but they pretty much have to dispel him or find a way to kill him, or they're going to be losing some hp every turn. but usually, that's exactly what happens, he just gets dispelled

that said, it's hilarious against abyssian if they don't have an answer for it. and having more than one out in general, the damage can really add up (don't count on it tho) also the damage it inflicts chips away at artifacts, which is nice

definitely not the best, but he's cool
>>
what faction is gonna be the best after the inevitable magmar nerf? Lantern fox songay or p2w vet?
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>>122381442
Magmar
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>>122380940
Yes anubis is shit
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>>122380431
>BREAKS A WALL
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>>122382119
I can't read.
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>>122379168
Prior to the Sarlac nerf, Vertruvian was without a doubt king of the ladder and the tournament. Numbers don't lie, but a lot of newbies complain before they even have the right cards nor strategies to play the faction (one indicator is "do I have obelisks in my deck?").

If you seriously think this faction is underpowered, choose another one (magmar is great for beginners). You're clearly too stupid or poor to play this one.
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>>122383118
You haven't answered the question.

Fuck off Fagmar.
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>playing burn songhai v healyonar at diamond
>throughout the course of the game: 2x healing mystic, 3x emerald rejuvenator, 2x sundrop elixir (+26 HP)
>break an arclyte
>about to die myself, but finally about to kill him next turn
>he summons the 5/12, replace this with your general if he dies
JUST HEAL MY SHIT UP SENPAI
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>enemy lyonar running mechazor deck
>actually gets mechazor out
>hits me with it twice
>still manages to lose because he just stopped caring about his general once mechazor was out, leaves him in the middle of the battlefield well within the range of rush units
FEELS GOOD FUCK YOU ANANANANTHI
CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR ABOUT HOW OP YOU THINK MAGMAR IS WHEN MOVING LITERALLY 1 SPACE BACK FROM CENTERFIELD AT ANY POINT IN THAT GAME WOULD HAVE WON IT FOR YOU
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>>122383681
Fuck off Fagmar.

>W-WELL I ALMOST LOST THAT ONE TIME I'M BALANCED GUYS

Look like the other guy was retarded.
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Here i fucking go.
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>>122383782
>the only reason you lose is because of human laziness and your ego telling you it was already over
>FUCKING DUELYST SHOULD BE BALANCED AROUND HOW SHIT I AM

you in a nutshell fàm
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>>122383987
>blocking out the name
>he's not even the magmar
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>>122384018
>you

It's a good thing Fagmars can only respond by assuming whoever they are talking to is the guy they just beaten
>implying I play memechaz0r
>implying I play healyonar
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tfw could have destroyed shitmar thrice but he just used plasma storm everytime
nerf when
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>tfw magmar
Magmar bros how you feelin? feels good man
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>>122384292
Plasma Storm is balanced if you play Magmar, stop complaining.
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Are the servers kill or why cant i connect to this battle
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>>122384265
I don't have to assume shit for that post anon
what I know is:
you're defending not allowing the game to punish someone for just ceasing to play tactically because they think it's in the bag
and you're defending poor play
and implying that a rebalance is needed around the situation mentioned in the first post
∴
you think duelyst should be balanced around shitty sub-optimal plays, and are yourself a shitter.
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>>122384335
>tfw flash reincarnating an early elder and watching the opponent scrambling to deal with it
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>>122384548
>you're defending not allowing the game to punish someone for just ceasing to play tactically because they think it's in the bag
Really ? When did I imply that in my post ? Could you quote me please ?

>and you're defending poor play
Again, where ? Can you please greentext it in your next reply, with an added commentary on how you reached that conclusion

>and implying that a rebalance is needed around the situation mentioned in the first post
>the situation mentioned in the first post
How did you reach that specific conclusion ?

>you think duelyst should be balanced around shitty sub-optimal plays, and are yourself a shitter.
>Fagmar
>Being against sub-optimal play
That's quite ironic, since you're the faction with the less need of actual strategical thinking.
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>>122384591
>replicate an elder
>other person concedes instantly
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>>122384335
feels good bro
finished climbing the ladder, building up my Vanar deck now to prep for when the devs cave to whiners, thinking Vet will be the next one I pick up since I think they might give it a touch up at some point because of how expensive it is
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>>122384335
>playing against mechaz0r decks
>plasma storm instantly wipes all his shitty mechaz0r parts
>ALWAYS have a mana burn ready by the time he summons mechaz0r
It's almost criminal how easy it is to beat mechaz0r. I kinda wish there were more so I could climb ladder easier.
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>Magmar wasting a Plasma Storm just to kill the Kolossus I stole from him via Zen'Rui
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>>122384751
Putting aside your hilarious definition of irony, If you weren't implying that, then when you said
>W-WELL I ALMOST LOST THAT ONE TIME I'M BALANCED GUYS
you must have been addressing a different, completely hypothetical person because it couldn't have applied to the post you were quoting.
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does dark transformation trigger on-death abilities?

not deathwatch

wait, actually, are there currently any on-death abilities in the game?
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>>122386114
It does, only that if the dying wish is "summon X on this place" it doesn't work, because the summoned wraithling takes priority
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I have a pretty decent Healonar deck and I still can't make it past rank 20. I suck so much at card games, why bother.
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>>122386954
If you suck at card games just build a random magmar deck and drop random cards in random order. You don't even have to think.
t. magmar player
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>>122386114
On-death aka deathrattle from HS is called Dying Wish. When other things die minions with Deathwatch will trigger their effect.
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>>122386954
>pretty decent Healonar deck and I still can't make it past rank 20
I find it hard to believe anyone can be this incompetent and still form coherent sentences. What are you even doing in your games? How are you even losing at that rank? I genuinely want to understand. You should be able to just run straight at the enemy while summoning zeal/provoke minions, and overall still gain rank.

Unless you've only played like 15 games and that's your definition of "stuck". With a small sample it could be just you're unlucky and faced people with great decks climbing ladder.
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>>122387302
>Being this mad
I suppose it's easier than gitting gud.
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Is Black Locust any good ? It seem neat if it manage to survive a few turn as it accumulates quickly, but Tempest and Fagmar fuckeries can completely destroy it.
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>>122388004
You answer it yourself. It could be good, but he's 4 mana which sucks and will kill your board if you have to protect a 2/2 at that point, he needs at least 2 turns to stack to a decent amount and even then tempest and plasma storm fuck all over him. Shit card, but funny if you're against songgai
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>>122386114
Yes.
UNLESS it'd place a creature in that spot (EX: Rebirth)
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>>122355557
I just saw one image of it and I didn't like it. How is more of the same aesthetic going to sway me? I didn't say the art was bad either. I don't care much for MtG too.
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>>122387354

I'm just terrible. Never been good at anything in my life.
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>>122355557
Sell me on the game, it seems interesting.
How much will I enjoy it if I'm going full F2P?
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>>122388883
>PoxNOra
>F2P
"No"
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>>122386114
>wait, actually, are there currently any on-death abilities in the game?
It's called "Dying Wish," an Abyssian-exclusive effect.
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>>122389309
>an Abyssian-exclusive effect
Scratch that, I'm retarded.
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>>122389309
>Fenrir warmaster
>Dioltas
>Azurehorn Shaman
>that other vanar guy
>Abyssian-exclusive effect.
What are you talking about.
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>>122389485
he just confused deathwatch and dying-wish in terms of faction abilities, shit happens bro
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>>122388686
It's time to start now
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Ive deranked to rank 19 while leveling non-main classes, it's weird that people seem to spend far longer thinking what to do in here resulting in long ass turns
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>>122389912
Maybe they're trying hard to figure out wtf kind of deck you're running.
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>>122389912
hopefully it's not too late for you, but
if you want to level a faction, create a faction deck that contains nothing but 1 and 2 mana minions and NOTHING ELSE

then try and shit out 5 minions in the first 2 turns, do a little damage if possible.

you can concede immediately after that and still get XP.
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Reminder that Vetruvian is the most balanced faction.

Any other factionrelying on more than one instant removal spell and one dispel is by definition scrub.
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>>122390174
>he's not counting YOU WORK FOR ME NOW on any minion as a removal
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>>122390354
>7 mana

You're right, I don't count it.
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>>122225651
I feel you brother
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>>122390460
well you should
also doesn't that make songhai an equally balanced class?
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>keep losing against Mechaz0rd songgays
Honestly, I could run my one and only crossbone, but I feel like every time that I need it, he won't come.
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>>122225651
It's fine, spain is irrelevant.

Compra una figura de santiago matamoros y ponla en tu puerta
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>>122225651
>>122390551
don't worry bros
terrorists are no more dangerous or lethal than the weather
it just seems scarier because humans attribute a greater threat to man-made disasters than natural disasters

if they do come to you next
odds are you'll survive

it would be tragic but you shouldn't let anticipation of such an act change your life any more than the existence of these things in the past has already.
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>>122391252
It's a 3/3 for 3 at its worst. What is worse than not having crossbones is when your opponent stays alive enough to summon a second one.
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>>122390562
>Songay
>Spiral Technique (7 mana but it can be used on Generals too)
>Onyx Bear seal
>Celestial Phantom + Inner Focus
>Any minion + Deathstrike seal (and possibly inner focus)
Heck, you could even count that spell that switch two minions with each other because Songays play around killing you before turn 7 anyway, way before your minion can catch up on foot

Not to mention Songays don't give a flying fuck about board control to begin with since they're basically built around summoning and attacking in the same turn, so having to destroy or dispel a troublesome minion is not as urgent,
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Can you even stop the enemy from building the mechazor?
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>>122392723
No way to halt its progression.
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>>122392723
kill them
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>>122392723
there is literally no way to halt or delay the progress of a mechazor
it's boring as fuck to play against

it's also pretty shit, since from the first mech unit you know it's coming and should be saving/cycling accordingly if you can't kill them first.

basically it's a shitty novelty deck that's relatively cheap to build and moderately amusing to play, so you crack it out when you've been drained by playing one deck over and over and over again to climb the ladder
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>>122392997
>>122392723
>>122392812
it would be neat if the progress happened as dying wish or deathwatch or on-kill events instead of opening gambits
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>>122393136
That would completely kill the deck, since it's already super shitty.
But yes they could make their effect a Dying Wish but give to minions good stats since they really lack in that factor.
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>>122393484
I mean definitely could't keep the minions as they are now and swap everything away from opening gambit

but reworking it with the aim to move away from +20% mech progress on opening gambit could result in a more interesting deck I think
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>>122393703
What would be "neat" about it? That it would be shittier? it sounds like you have a personal issue with the deck and are trying to justify nerfing it yet don't have the balls to outright say it.
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How can people handle to play as song hai? every time I attempt to play it I get rekt hard since I never draw the stuff that I need. If I need a saberspine I get motherfucking dragon mist, but in the next game I only get minions and in the next one, only spell till turn 4 with an useless chakry avatar thrown in there. Inner focus might as well not exist sine I either get two in the first turn or I never draw one.
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>>122394108
jesus calm down champ, nobody want's to take away mechazor
it's just fucking boring right now
you drop minions and wooo another minion comes out
there's no interactivity, there's nothing, they're basically shit minions with 0-cost spells attached to them that say "progress the build!"

having more, different minions with varied triggering effects for progressing the build would allow for different factions to lean towards / synergise with different mechazor units instead of doing the stock "DUMP WHATEVER IN" that we currently have, not to mention forcing the opponent to alter his playstyle if he wants to play optimally, which currently doesn't happen at all

how isn't that neat compared to the completely lifeless implementation we have now, now quit being so damn defensive
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>>122394635
>playing anything other than magmar and complaining about losing
Your own fault
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>>122394761
>he's still here
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>>122394635
Are you replacing cards you don't need?

That said, it's important to be aware of the main gimmicks of Songhai, notably that it's your job to be a highly mobile, dodgy cunt who can hit the enemy beyond their range and can't be locked down.
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>against vet
>wildfire ankh
>staff of y'kir
>get near him and summon 2 units to block
>bone swarm
>staff of y'kir
My ass still hurts from this
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>>122395243
He just got lucky with the cards
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>>122395494
Yeah not calling Vet op, impossible to do that while smegmar exists
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>>122394736
You think I'm ridiculing you because I have some personal investment in mechaz0r decks. I'm ridiculing you because you clearly barely started playing the game and are already polluting these threads with your dumb suggestions. The worst part is you are so fucking delusional you're bending over backwards trying to veil your frustrations with the deck under the guise of "making it more interesting".

Read your posts again. Imprint what you said into your head. If you continue playing this game for more than a week you'll realize how dumb you are. Mechaz0r is garbage. It's fodder for healyonar/magmars/burn songhai - which are also the dominant gold+ ladder decks.
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Where we at /gayboys/?
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>Fagmar
>Songay
>Gayonar
>Abysshit
>Vetard
What about Vanar?
>>
>Shadow Nova
>4 damages
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Is there such thing as winning against Lyonar as Abysshit
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>>122395907
I didn't think you were ridiculing me at all, I thought you were just a really weird, touchy dude

and I was right

the fuck are you on about? who's bending over backwards? who's frustrated?
I've literally never seen anyone ever project this hard in my life.

Mechazor is garbage, and that's literally why I'm making the post in the first place.
It needs to be made more interesting.

I built a mech deck as one of my first, along with golem, and dropped it like it was hot because turns out you can't do fuck all with it. This season I ran Vanar, now and I'm building vet to kill time until december. Neither of these brand-fucking-new decks have ever had trouble dealing with the minions Mech shits out early (because they are completely inconsequential) or with Mech itself (which is absurdly susceptible to all manner of removal/stall despite being supposedly untargetable)

veiled nerf? the mental gymnastics required to convince yourself that there's no way to have any minion capable of progressing mechazor's build with every attack, or kill, or as a deathwatch or dying wish completely fucking eludes me, especially when you have the amount by which you can progress the build as a variable as well.

But not only does believing that would be a nerf make no sense, what makes even less fucking sense is why you are so dead set on believing that the only reason anybody would want to change the Mechazor mechanic would be to nerf it when it is literally universally accepted as being a fucking weak-ass deck.

Like I said
Calm the fuck down
Nobody wants to take your mech deck, you fucking sperg.
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>>122396214
>Gayonar
this one is awful, change it

Vaginar?
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>>122396214
Only Fagmar, Songay and Abysshit are legit.

I should know I spammed all three to make them popular.
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>>122396214
>vetard
no
it's pay2vian
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>>122398091
>>122397893
I didn't create them, that's what was spammed overall in /dyg/.
I like pay2vian
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New bread needed
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>>122397742
>who's bending over backwards? who's frustrated?
Just read your own post. I didn't even bother reading all that frustration. You are so delusional it's pathetic. Reevaluate your life.
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>>122398841
>get absolutely rekt
>o..oh shit.... w/e I didn't even read it, guess I'm done with this
truly lol'd
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>>122398091
More like baitruvian
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>>122399473
>>122399473
>>122399473


New thread!
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>>122397742
>writes a rambling essay
>Calm the fuck down
What is wrong with you?
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