/boig/ - The Binding of Isaac General

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Playing isaac with a friend.
>Gee Anon! Question Mark Question Mark Question Mark is a really hard character!

He doesn't know about The Lost.
He doesn't know about Keeper.

>Want to use Keeper without all the hassle?
>Reset until you find D20 in the shop (takes less than 5 minutes on average since D20 is in multiple shop pools)
>Go to next floor with D20
>Do Waves 1-10 without picking up any coins
>Reroll coins into chests, open chests, buy battery in shop, use D20 again, repeat until game broken
>Get blue hourglass and chaos card
>Enjoy your Keeper and 100+ Eden tokens

Reminder not to use D100 or D4 during this process, bums can fuck you over.

How do you unlock mega brimstone?

>>122353248
Beat Mega-Satan with every character.

>>122353248
mega satan with all characters

>>122353248
Murder Fuck Huge Lucifer with every character

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Come on, mr. Edmundo.

>Cain went from mid tier to top tier with the greed machine
>Eve went from mid tier to high tier with the greed machine
>The Lost went from bullshit to fun challenge tier with the greed machine
>Maggy is still shit
>Lazarus is still shit
>They're never going to be buffed
>Ever

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Playing Maggy
Get Lusty Blood

>mfw

>>122353362
Told you guys. Don't know why you didn't count them.

>>122353362
MISSING POSTER CONFIRMED BEST ITEM.

Trinkets are counted as items.

inb4 Stillbirth = 200 trinkets and 1 million co-op babies.

>>122353372
Once I get the RPG equivalent I might just mod in Lazarus starting with Suicide King and Maggy starting with her Faith.
Blue Baby should start with Petrified Poop too, and Book of Belial should get un-nerfed.

I just want the ability to actually get a good 100+ streak purely with Randoms.

>>122353362
$ 6 . 6 6 C O O P B A B I E S A N D T R I N K E T S

>>122353648
don't forget the 2 new brimstone synergies

Afterbirth would be alright if it was a free update
6.66 wasn't worth it.

so do completion marks only count if you get an ending? i just ran lazarus for the first time up through cathedral and died and still have a blank pane

>>122353819
did you take dark judas/ankh/whatever?
they'll stop you from getting the marks because they change your base character

>>122353819
Did you use any revival items, excluding Lazarus' built in one?

>>122353819
Yes, unless you have a revival item that has changed your character.

>>122353454
Trinkets are trinkets? Not pickups or collectibles?

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How do i git gud as Lilith not in greed mode?

>>122353951
You hope to get BFFs in a shop and a bunch of familiars in your item rooms. Seriously she's fucking shit outside of greed mode.

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>save and exit game
>load it up later
>mom's wig and a few other item are just fucking gone

epic

how do I do the solar system challenge

>>122353951
Just reset a few times till you get an extra familiar and always grab familiars.

Alternatively, take damage (tank build with high damage) so she spawns more familiars herself.

She's a lot of fun, and did four unlocks on her with one good run (Hush, Mega Stan, ???, Isaac)

>>122354160
git gud
Though they should update it to start with Friend Zone.

>>122353773
seriously the original halloween update felt like it added more than this shit

I mean I guess theres greed mode but thats really not big enough to justify the price

>>122353862
>>122353884
>>122353916

i died and revived and died at the end once in the same room. but i did use the d4 a couple times early on in the run, maybe that changed my revive into another character maybe?

>>122353951
Buy every battery item you see

>>122354340
To my awareness, you can't reroll Lazarus Rags on Lazarus because it's hardcoded, but I could be wrong.

You have to beat the boss of each level to get the unlock as well, don't forget!

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Let's hear your character ideas.

Joseph: Starts with less attack, but is guaranteed angel rooms. This does mean he gets no devil rooms. Also starts with Guardian Angel.

Made with the priest look of the old Keeper design in mind.

>>122354160
Orbitals
Rotten Baby
Lil Brimstone
Gnawed Leaf
Stop Watch

your choice

>Pink Haunt

How is this allowed?

>>122354519
Pink haunt is literally the easiest haunt variant.

>>122354482
>Joseph: Starts with less attack, but is guaranteed angel rooms. This does mean he gets no devil rooms. Also starts with Guardian Angel
>no immaculate conception
it's shit

>>122354593
Black is easiest when it's in the room with the row of spikes near the top
>spits spiders
>land directly on the spikes and die

>>122354581
Don't ever take the cursed eye for any reason.

>>122354602
I don't want old man mpreg.

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yfw chaos

>>122354790
wow
please leave

>>122354503
does guppy work with the flies or?

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Gentlemen, how do we fix The Keeper?

>Starts off with $$$ = Power.
>When he hits exactly 99 cents, he gains another "coin" of refillable health.
>However, it also resets his money count to 0.
>Have to balance survivability versus raw damage.
>Counts as having half a red heart for the purposes of effects like Whore of Babylon / Polaroid.
>Unlock for beating The Hush actually gives him another health container, not just a fucking penny (go fuck yourself Edmund).

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I thought you guys were a bit over dramatic with how many babies were added, but then I realized there were a lot more than the unlockable ones. Holy shit, did they add a lot of babies. Wish there was something to do with them.

Maybe an online Wrath Mode where babies go through stages to get to the end first. Being killed by enemies or one another results in you being thrown to the start of the floor, and last one to finish the floor is kicked, like musical chairs. Last baby standing wins.

>>122354962
Modded Keeper to give him a third container, a hp up set it back to 2, so it's hard coded.
Can't fix that on our end, sorry.

>>122354962
>Starts off with $$$ = Power.
>When he hits exactly 99 cents, he gains another "coin" of refillable health.
>However, it also resets his money count to 0.
>Have to balance survivability versus raw damage.
You'll almost never make it to 99 coins though, especially with his healing ability. It's a useless ability.

>Unlock for beating The Hush actually gives him another health container, not just a fucking penny (go fuck yourself Edmund).
Beating those bosses should give items so playing him benefits all characters. As it stands his rewards are pretty much useless, since he's not a fun character as a whole, and not one I would be willing to play after completing his post-it.

>>122354482
I'd actually prefer this character

Job: Starts off weakest in all stats with devil/angel rooms guaranteed, and can't access angel rooms until 2 devil deals pass by. Both Devil Deals contain absolutely amazing items, though not brimstone/mom's knife amazing, but prevent him from getting more than 4 hearts max, spirit hearts included. If you take a devil deal, it removes all holy items from all pools, but if you pass them up, it's guaranteed angel rooms for the rest of the game, and they ALWAYS contain an item.

>>122355204
That seems overly complicated, hard to implement, and all-around bad.

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>enemy runs at you
>you shoot at him while strafing
>your shots nudge the enemy the same way you're strafing

>>122355256
How the fuck else would you do a character based on Job?

>>122355204
I was trying to think of something like that for Peter. A character based around keeping faith.

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Well?

>>122354962
I know how to make the keeper better!
Have him start with 3 containers
IV bag instead of wooden nickel
Swallowed Penny instead of shop key
Have him also start with piggy bank

>>122355395
HE WHO DARES WINS

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>>122355395

Do it faggot.

>>122355395
no risk
no reward

Do it.

>>122355535
>>122355530
>>122355603
3 dollar bill, quad shot, shield tears, slow buddy and random poop bombs
acceptable/10

>game keeps crashing on start up
what the fuck Eddmund? Fucking nigger

>>122355316
>cambion conception
>immaculate conception
>succubus
And when he's at 1/2 a heart, the puddle when he enters a room is white instead of yellow

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>>122355661

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>Getting Incubus on a blindfold challenge.

Just need Mega Stan on Judas to complete everything on normal, what is your best tip to always get Angel Rooms?

>>122355670
Anyone know what the fuck to do? Worked perfectly fine before he did his shitty fucking update and i tried verifying data.

>>122355876
Rosary Bead.

>>122355876
remember to bring bombs

>>122355876
http://platinumgod.co.uk/angel-room

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>try to unlock the lost
>get dank depths
bravo eggman

>999 coins in greed machine to unlock keeper
how many people SAM'd that bullshit?

>>122356145
I didn't

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>The Binding of Isaac : Unbirth
>Instead of adding new characters, each character now has three different loadouts to unlock
>Same theme, different items
What would they be?

>>122356194
>keep seeing unbirth
>nobody's thinking of the obvious

Rebirth, Afterbirth, what's the third major -birth? Something that could be attributed to Hush?

stillbirth

>>122356194

Please, no more expansions. I don't want to know how much less fun Edmund can make this game.

>>122355530
egg pls go

>>122356543
BUT ANON
THE DREAM

>>122355661
I don't get why people don't like #2. If you're attentive, you'll never get hit by the bombs, unlike something like Mom's Toenail.

>>122356321
i thought stillbirth was what we just got

theyre out of their mind if they think they can make another expansion. What would it even have? The other half of this one? Then it would still only be 1/4 of an expansion.

So if i have Red Hand equipped and enter the Chest I'll still get regular chest items right?

>>122356861
Nope, cursed chests act like normal even in the chest, drop that left hand before going in typically.

>>122356904
Oh, glad I asked. Thanks, anon.

and i died from instantly respawning red poop, apparently
gg

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>>122356978

>>122356861
>Red Hand
Woah, am I watching Vanilla Isaac-era NL?

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>trying to get through the lost greed mode
>get to second floor
>glass cannon in shop

>>122357314
>next patch
>glass cannon removes lost's holy mantle effect when you use it

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G232
KZGB
Lilith
Enjoy.

>>122357520
Actually, that would be a cool synergy. If you have Holy Mantle, Glass Cannon takes that away instead of your HP.

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>>122357779
ALSO
Bomb the first merchants, sorry.

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My damage isn't actually that high, but it does look impressive.
Continuum+proptosis+pupula duplex+cricket's body+triple shot.

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>>122357779

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>>122358238
Greed

so is there any advantage to this piece of shit keeper?

like the lost can take devil deals, and blue babby can walk into challenge rooms and have whore of babylon/polaroid, what does he have

for the blue hourglass thing to work for ultra green you need the double charge right?

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FUCK
YOU
GREED MODE
ALMOST DONE WITH YOU
ALL THAT'S LEFT IS TRIPLE SHOT MCINFINITEHEALTH

>>122358378
nothing

that's the point

>>122358378
If you have Swallowed Penny, one of the most common trinkets, you're immortal.

>>122358421
Considering the glowing hourglass doesn't seem to spawn until the very fucking end of the item pool in greed mode, I'd assume you already have it.

>>122358378
I hope you like Greed Mode, because he's as OP as Lilith in it since coins heal him.

>>122358441
Does the Glass Cannon not damage the Lost?

because if so, that's neat

>>122358595
Glass Cannon does nothing to your HP or Holy Mantle when playing as The Lost. It's fucking amazing.

Why are those red ghost things so fucking hard to kill?

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haha holy shit, they didn't even develop a sprite sheet for keeper's basic facial transformations, the incompetent fucks

>>122358951
They have the same amount of HP that normal Wizoobs have, but their brimstone attack restricts your movements, often heavily, since they usually appear in numbers. This makes it harder to get more hits in.

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>get tech2 as the lots
>can't shoot through rocks

>>122359191
>all the technology items aren't inherently spectral
Honestly this pisses me off considering how shitty the damage is on each one of them.

>first keeper run
>Piggy Bank at 7 cents
>swallowed penny drops two rooms later

welp

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>trying to do keeper greed mode
>take damage from bullshit stain pop up on the chest
>avoid the double stain bullet hell bullshit
>mad dash for a coin
>try to grab and run back
>miss it
>go for it again
>stain fucking pop up 1 pixel in front of it and kills me

>>122352962
>doing Greed mode
>actually having fun and a good time playing Lillith with almost every Battery upgrade + Habit so it's retardedly overpowered
>GREED box bricks at 4 coins
God fuck off man
This shit is so fucking stupid

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>missinghud shows 3.50 damage
>normal spiders die from two shots
>missinghud shows 7.00 damage
>normal spiders still die from two shots

>>122353372
Eve has always been top tier as fuck, what's wrong with you

>>122360351
S C A L I N G

D A M A G E

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>>122357779

All of the brimstones!

As if ultra greed isnt time consuming enough I need to pump it to 999 coins?
fuck off Eggmund

>>122359285

Isn't Tech X spectral?

>>122360436
Use the hourglass or cheat engine :^)

>>122360351
>>122360372
Spiders don't have stage HP, only base HP. They shouldn't have more than 6.5.

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Thank fuck I never have to play this goddamn mode ever again.
I thought Greed Mode would be an interesting, fun, unique mode that provided a fair challenge.
I was fucking wrong.
There's no variance in the waves. There's nothing unique to any session. This is a game that bases itself on never knowing how the next run is going to go, and yet this is a mode that exists solely as "Keep playing until huge tear+damage stat"

Fuck Greed Mode, I'm glad I'm done with it.

So Edmund is clearly capable of buffing characters through unlocks
Isaac with the D6 is the best character and it's not even close
So why would he make Keeper's unlocks so fucking horrible
I don't get this shit

>>122361048
lost almost became a usable character so he had to throw something out that no one could enjoy

So, why did edmund put all this effort into an ARG after swearing of this kind of shit?

Also lying to the audience in his rants, for shame.

>Unlocked sticky nickels
>nickels now cost a bomb to pick up
What's the point

Can I un-unlock this

>>122361376
I mean, it kinda balances out all the extra cash you're now getting from special shopkeepers. Still pretty shitty, though.

>Greed mode
>Angel room
>Angel room
>Angel room
>every one is pure shit, not a single item

Waiter, somebody shat on my steak

>>122361376
Me and my wife went here off of recommendations from others. When we pulled up it was not what I was expecting. When we walked in it was. First off it was quiet, dim, cozy, comfortable, and inviting. Smelled great and very nice interior. Nothing too snotty but definitely a cut above the norm. The service was great. The server was very informative and knowledgable about the food served. I'd dare to say expert at his craft. First off the Kobe sliders are amazing. My wife could have just eaten them all night if we had stopped with apps. We ordered the Chicken Francesse, macaroni and cheese, potatoes au gratin, and last but not least the $100 long bone in Kobe ribeye. Let me tell you what that was an amazing steak, not worth $100 but very good none the less. Believe it or not it wasn't the most impressing thing on the table. The sides were fantastic. Maybe the best potatoes au gratin I've had and the Mac and cheese was great as well. The hands down winner of the night was the pasta. I cannot remember anything I've ever eaten that was that good. I mean second to none best pasta ever. I ate the steak and was actually a little jealous she got to eat the pasta. All in all great experience, great sides, great steak, best pasta of all time. We will definitely be frequent diners at Killen's steakhouse. Oh and as far as price take away the $100 steak our bill would have been $88.00. That's hard to beat for food that good.

>>122361428
Sir the chef swears that it's top of the line meat and shit and it was cooked to order

>>122361428

Too bad there's no greed angel boss.

>>122361480
>it's actually $110
FUCK YOU EDMUND I'LL SAVOR MY $110 STEAK, I'LL EAT THE $100 HOWEVER I LIKE

>>122361376
I would have made them super rare but you can proc the flat/burnt/bloody penny trinkets infinitely by repeatedly walking over them

getting 99 of a pickup item or a full heal isn't really a big deal in the game anymore anyways

>>122361376
nah man not having fun is fun - edmund "coop babies" mcmlulun

expansion 2 is going to be advertised as having all the content afterbirth should have had but its going to be entirely awful shit like sticky nickles

>>122361934
I can't BELIEVE that Sackhead is still unnerfed
It's easily one of the strongest items in the game and it's fucking INSANE with Card of Humanity in a double room and getting the petrified poop

>>122361934
That actually seems pretty good.

Ugh, this daily is awful, you play Maggie and get almost no offensive stat boosts beyond a few damage ups and have to beat mega satan. Also the experimental treatment gives -tears when you get no +tears anywhere in the run.

>>122362042
keep it on the dl anon if edmund hears "fun" itll all be over

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>trying to beat mega stan with lost
>first devil deal was abaddon and brimstone
>next floor's treasure room has dad's key
>angel room has fucking holy light
>no devil rooms/angel rooms after that

>collected a lot of coins
>check the shop on every floor
>compass, everything else is absolute dogshit or greed/super greed

>got a fool card, trying to get to boss rush for items
>barely killed mom in time
>devil room appears
>19:57
>go to boss rush
>2 items: anarchist cookbook and book of sin
>go back
>devil room disappeared

just fucking kill me

>>122362220
100+ hours to get the greed machine to 999 coins because it jams so fucking often

>>122362220
It's true isn't it? You'll easily spend 100+ hours getting those pennies into the greed machine, 1 jammed cent at a time.

>>122362042
The only way to nerf sackboy is to have item rooms have a chance of spawning a sack instead of a pedestal item

nobody wants that, man

what did the mass updates a few days ago do?
was azazel fixed?
were some things nerfed?

>>122362220
It's not wrong.

>>122362595
azazel is buffed to rebirth damage, but slightly lower firerate
keeper is in the game now
he's shit
the lost now starts with holy mantle after you donate a shit ton to the greed machine

this xpac is fuck you: the release

>>122362724
well at least i can finally try to unlock lilith

FUN FACT: your chances of adding 99 coins to the greed machine (starting at a jam rate of 0%) is 0.66%

so if this is the final update to afterbirth, I gotta say afterbirth sucks as a whole

it basically made the game easier to break and less fun at the same time

>>122362849
eh that's actually kinda cool if it's true

I've been reading that The Lost now starts with D4 and Holy Mantle, but I don't see Holy Mantle on The Lost when I choose him. Am I doing something wrong or do I need to do something for him to have it?

>>122362954
cheat engine the greed donation machine to 999
insert penny
congratulations you skipped the worst grind in any video game ever and made the lost fun

>>122362954
you need to unlock it by donating 879 coins to the greed machine

So fellas, tell me what was your best find with chaos yet?
Mine was Guppy and Godhead by Caves 2.

>>122362220
>100+ new items
read: trinkets
>whole new alt path and game ending
he literally considers hush a whole new alt path
>new game mode 100+ hours
because literal grind. no one touched that shit after unlocks
>new altfloors
that are only different from others visually
>tons new enemies and bosses
recolored enemies that are the same with an on death effect or reskinned old enemies with a slightly different pattern and a bunch of annoying bosses.
>lot of new super secrets
the keeper, lol? i hope theyre so secret im wrong about this
>10 new challenges
and theyre even worse than the first 20

>>122352962
Well, he IS pretty shit.

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Wow, that's a really good Lost/Keeper run you have going there.

>>122363072
>>122363080
I see. Thank you.

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>pick up rosary
>bible in the devil room
>bible in the shop
>bible in the library
>bible in the angel room
>bible in the shop again
ayyyyy lmao

>>122363251
I was searching for that 'fuck OFF' image to react to this. Based off that great game, OFF.
I found this instead.
https://gyazo.com/420ec2066ebbc1d4e079a1754676c629

>>122363251
>instant brimstone

reddit will defend this

>>122363390
touch it you fool

>>122363390
That's why you only pick up Rosary if you're a real emergency with health.

>>122363251
>double bloat rooms with these guys
I didn't want a no-damage floor clear anyway.

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>>122363251
Hey buddy you mind tagging along for the next wave of the boss rush? Those fucking idiots gemini and blighted ovum just got their asses kicked out there.

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>my fucking face when

So am I really the only person who figured out that sticky nickels needed to be bombed back when they were in that daily run? I've seen like a dozen posts of "so THATS's what those nickels we couldn't pick up were!"

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>the wafer doesn't work with the keeper

>>122364136
Y'know I wouldn't even mind the keeper if his fucking coins actually took 2 hits each.

>>122364136
ed seems to like the idea of characters that arent affected by half of the items

>>122364136
Why the fuck would you need the wafer anyway? Everything hurts you for a coin heart, regardless of the level.

>>122364213
i wouldnt mind if i didnt have to hold r until i got a tears up item just to make it through basement without going insane

>>122364136
ONE THING THAT COULD'VE MADE HIM FUCKING FUN

>>122364248
That's the point.
The wafer is supposed to reduce everything to half a red heart damage.

>get Goat Head on Basement 2
>zero Angel Rooms

>https://twitter.com/JustinJohannson/status/665652195329609728

>Hey Ed, just shooting a question, is the Blue Womb/Hush the described "final area/boss"?

>yes

fuck you edmund

>>122364136
literally fucking nothing works with the keeper

>>122363992
I just thought they were troll nickels

>>122363992
uh, those nickels weren't there anon, you're obviously misremembering your tasty steak

if the nickels were there, that would mean there were always supposed to be potatoes with your steak, and that they were being kept in the kitchen for no reason, which of course the cook would never do. he's giving you these potatoes for free out of the goodness of his heart.

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>>122364337
>you will never be able to bring the Polaroid to Sheol in order to unlock an alternate chapter
>likewise for Negative and Cathedral
thanks deadmound

I haven't been here in a while.
What was the ARG?
Do we have the full steak yet?

>>122362315
Sackboy should put sacks over pedestal items, giving you a permanent curse of the blind effect.
My favorite though is getting book of sin with it.

>>122364504
welcome back
gay shit
we think so

>>122361376
>>122361934
wait, is it really all nickels once you unlock sticky nickels?

I thought it would just be a once-in-a-while thing

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>>122363251

Dang. You're saying you didn't find any effective damage ups by the Depths? That really sucks bro.

>>122364713
They're a separate item in the drop pool from regular nickels. I honestly like them, it means if I have spare bombs there's 2x the chance of getting nickels.

What the actual fuck. I was fighting Skolex in greed mode with mom's contact. Froze him while he was diving at me and found I could damage one of his middle segments. The motherfucker split and I had 2 half-Scolexes fighting me.

So I have some questions because I'm dumb and new and don't know shit

Do enemies in Utero deal more damage than usual in hard mode?

Why isn't cambion conception working in hard mode when I play Lilith?

>>122364910
And you didn't bother to take screenshots?

>>122364986
>Do enemies in Utero deal more damage than usual in hard mode?
From the womb/utero onward, all enemies deal a full heart of damage. This doesn't change in hardmode.

>Why isn't cambion conception working in hard mode when I play Lilith?
Lilith will only have Cambion Conception if it's already an item you've unlocked.

>>122365053
>Lilith will only have Cambion Conception if it's already an item you've unlocked.
That's weird, I thought it had already worked for me in normal. Welp.

we have the steak and its bite sized

how is eds analogy going to work like this

>>122364817
oh good

that guy made it sound like it was all nickels forever

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Umm, I just used the sun card with the blank card as the keeper and the blinding baby unlocked.
I haven't beat mega satan and hush with the lost yet.
What the fuck.

>>122365406
Oh and then my game crashed.
Beautiful.

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>tfw fire bombs + bomberman + dr fetus + host head
I wonder if I'll be able to kill greed before my game crashes

>choking on mom during a good run
I hate myself so much.

>daily run not working
Thanks, Hackmund.

If there's a gray, a gold, and a red chest in the challenge room, and two reds in the curse room, which set do I double Jera?

>>122365619
Keep practicing, anon. You'll git gud eventually.

>>122365692
I've killed her many times before already.

>>122365691
The challenge room.

>>122365887
One death is too many, m8

If I use Suicide King on The Guardian will it still kill me?

>>122366114
do you only have one life?

if so, yes, doesn't matter if you have scape goat or isaac's heart or anything, you just need an extra life

>bullshit cumulative greed machine jam chance

Since the last patch, how can I get more than 10 coins into the machine before it jams? Even my least played characters are at 3% and they can't donate more than that before it just jams.

>inb4 shitty steak jokes

I mean it, is there any way to do this more efficiently other than the obvious hourglass trick?

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I think the steak metaphor is a good explanation of the Rebirth experience. Because the content was time gated over the course of two weeks, we kept getting hungrier and hungrier taking little bites of our steak and needing to wait for the rest of it

By the time the chef is done serving us, we aren't full. Because we've already digested the rest of the steak beforehand, and now we're left with what barely seems like a complete experience. We're left with a game that feels half-baked and the creators are yucking it up like they're some sort of geniuses that presented us the best experience they could have given

All I know is this is probably the most disappointing indie I've played in a while after being thoroughly impressed with Rebirth and how fun that felt. Not only does this game feel like it has less content than what we expected, but what is there either sucks, is unusable, not fun or actually pretty good at times

Still, honestly I would've preferred just having a straight game to play with no strings attached. Afterbirth really could've been my goty, but now I'm only attempting to complete it through determination alone so I never have to play this again

Also I just recently unlocked the Keeper and half of his post-its are already filled out. Nice job Nicalis you fucking hacks

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>pyromaniac + isaac's heart + curse of the tower + blood rights
i only regret that sooner or later i'll run out of things to kill

>>122366376

>is there any way to do this more efficiently other than the obvious hourglass trick?

With CheatEngine, yes.

The donation thing isn't a terrible idea, considering how shit in the game unlocks by beating everything a billion times anyway. However, the jamming chance should be a bit smaller because as it is it doesn't make a difference if you make it there with 10 coins or 99 coins because the damn thing jams anyway.

If I'm trying to cheese greed mode with the d20, can I use the reroll machine to turn a key/bomb into a battery in the shop? Getting the d20 is easy but I can never get a fucking battery to show up.

>>122366415
Post-its are entirely fucked if you imported saves. I still haven't beat The Dark Room with half the characters according to the post-its even though I have all the items.

>>122366515
Jamming chance should be zero. It's a minimum 1000 coins to unlock everything, that's at least 10 perfect runs.

If I'm going into the Ultra Greed floor with a high amount of coins, it's either due to luck or good shop management. I shouldn't have to go through another luck check at the machine.

>>122366603
sometimes, yes

>>122366603
Yes. I haven't had the best of luck with it, though.

>>122365146
Image buying a 6 dollar steak and the chef cooking it until it's well done, then the waiter arrives cutting your steak into bite size pieces (he doesn't want you to choke) while letting it get cold. Then waiter engages in an interactive ARG with the rest of the customers to find the ketchup to pour all over it. Finally, two weeks later you can eat your burnt, cold, slathered in ketchup steak.

Bon appétit~

>>122366639
I know, but I've already completed majority of the post-its in Afterbirth anyway

I just mean the Keeper, a character I've played as for a grand total of a minute and hadn't accomplished anything already having Heart, Isaac, Satan and ??? kills

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The most tsundere of enemies.

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fuck

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Fuck your steak, fatmund.

>manage to get blank card, justice, car battery, habit
>oh boy oh boy donation time
>jams after 8

Thanks Fuckmund.

>>122366983
perfect

>>122367465
>had that unlocked but not the mind

holy mantle will fix that hopefully... but tbqh at this point i just dont wanna play this game. The expansion added nothing but more ways to annoy me(and coop babies).

Anyone got a Diplopia-Steam Sale-Refresh seed?

>>122367465
Can someone explain the origin of this steak meme?

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>Start playing with the keeper
>Get swallowed penny
>Get Epic Fetus
>Get Sack Head
>Get Host Head
>Donate to a devil beggar twice but forget to pick the coin to heal
>Dies

KILL ME

>>122367945
lost got datamined instead of found out through the ARG, tyrone compared it to eating a $100 steak in one bite

i don't know why it got associated with edmund though

>>122367945
Edwin McMuffin used the analogy "It's like eating a $100 steak in one bite" or something along those lines to describe data miners.

Walking on a 6d field during a subpar run and turning into a fucking killing machine is great.

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:)

I'm not sure I even want to play the expansion after reading through a few of these generals. Is there anything that makes it worthwhile?

The moment I stopped having fun with rebirth, to the point where I got real plat. god was one of the most tedious/annoying lengths of time I have ever experienced, is the expansion just more of that?

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PLEASE JUST LET ME FINISH MY STEAK

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>>122368303
>nerd

Is there any way to check how often you killed a specific boss besides mom, specifically mom's heart?

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>>122368214
greed modes fun the first few times you do it

new items arent really noteworthy and most are garbage.

the new enemies can hardly be considered new
and the new bosses get old just as fast as the previous ones.

hush is a giant symbol of how lazy the expansion is

new synergies means new brimstone synergies, so youll never see them since brimstones so rare

tldr; no the xp pack is awful even for the discounted price unless you play a shit ton of coop

So I'm working on a mod for better rewards in the Greed machine relative to unlocking more things for characters. Was wondering what you guys think?

* 3 Coins - Judas now holds an additional 2 coins.
* 5 Coins - Isaac now holds an additional bomb.
* 119 Coins - Magdalene now holds the Blood Bag.
* 133 Coins - Lazarus now holds the Suicide King.
* 216 Coins - Judas now wears the Goat Head.
* 272 Coins - Magdalene now holds the Joker.
* 445 Coins - Lilith now holds the AAA Battery.
* 594 Coins - Azazel is one with Abaddon now.
* 800 Coins - Eden is feeling chaotic.

Nothing too strong, right?

>>122368726
who would ever download this

>>122368726
remove the 3 coin tier, I think at some point judas should get his tongue

>>122368726
>Blood Bag.
Because what Maggy needs is even more health.

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>>122368625

thanks for the summary, sounds fucking dire.

>>122368214
i would NOT recommend the expansion unless you're a hardcore completionist but then you'd already have it

>>122368726
>Azazel
>starts with 9 hearts
Yeah, nothing too strong at all anon

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>>122368625
The "new final area" isn't a final area and is shit because only one room in the area has enemies. The rest in a room with four gold chests, two treasure rooms, and a shop. The other new areas are just reskins of areas that already existed. They're aesthetically pleasing at least.

The Keeper is the Lost 2.0, in-fact he's worse. He starts with triple shot but his tear rate is so shit that it'd be better to just be the Lost. He can't even take devil deals that require two or three hearts. He heals with coins so you'll get less money. No upsides other than triple shot and store key(when you unlock it). His unlocks are shit.

There's mega-satan unlocks, but it's JUST co-op babies. Not worth doing unless you're looking for 100% completion, and if so, enjoy your tedious shit-fest. In-fact most unlocks are shit. You can unlock four pills by doing challenges, and the fun part is that the four pills are absolute shit.

More guaranteed-damage rooms and bullshit enemies, making the Lost and the Keeper even more frustrating.

The new room layouts do not have a large impact on the game. They were played up so much and yet the most you'll get from new room layouts is-
>go fight boss as the lost
>tiny boss room with champion famine so have fun dying
or
>go into secret room
>push button on the ground
>enemies pop-up
>kill them
>that's it, you get nothing

DO NOT BUY THE EXPANSION UNLESS YOU ENJOY GETTING FUCKED IN THE ASS in the extremely painful and frustrating way, not the good and enjoyable way

Wait, what happens if you enter a library with NO?

>>122368726
Please never write anything ever again.

>>122369053
they added the mega blast last patch to force you to get all the mega satan notes :)

>>122369101
Normal items spawn, it's great

>>122369053
>go into secret room
>push button on the ground
>enemies pop-up
>kill them
>that's it, you get nothing
What the fuck was Edmund thinking with the buttons? Almost all of the time it only spawns a shitton of enemies, and when it doesn't, it's ust a troll bomb or half a heart. They're never fucking worth it.

>>122369101
Removes the books. Still not worth picking up though, since it has a tendency to crash your game.

>>122369053
>They're aesthetically pleasing at least.
Speak for yourself, Burning Basement is a fucking strain in the eyes.

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>>122369159
>force you to get all the mega satan notes
As if that'll ever happen! Good joke, anon!

>>122369217
Just grab mods that remove the filters.

>>122369053
Yeah, the expansion is total ass. Edmund clearly rushed the fuck out of everything, and resorted to counting trinkets as items and a single boss room as a new area/chapter.
Not to mention the retarded amounts of bugs and crashes. But of course the community will defend this anyway

>>122369281
also, don't forget to turn on the filter

>>122369295
I want to know what the fuck they were working on all this time if this is all were getting. Like, I know it's a joke, but it REALLY seems like all the resources went into making fucking coop babies. The only other explanation I can think of is that they gutted this pack to sell the other half later. And that half had all the fun content.

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>>122369475
>And that half had all the fun content.

No.

You get more co-op babies.

>>122369475
another DLC is already planned, tyrone said they'll release it on Q2 2016

>>122369475
To be fair, coop babies are insanely easy to make.

>>122369540
I don't believe you

>>122369540
If it's that soon it will be no surprise if they did actually split it up.

>>122369540
official co-op baby expansion pack

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WHO /neverbuyinganothergamefrommcmuffinagain/ HERE?

>mfw i finally played the keeper after staying up all night for him

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wow what an assholes

>>122369705
You mean afterbirth wasn't that?

>jumping spiders can jump around corners and over pits at the same time
This is some fucking bullshit.

>>122369781
no
in this update they had to devote time to pointless things that the entitled fans wanted
but in the next update, they can finally reveal the game's true co-op baby potential

>Greed mod, playing azazel
> Get rubber cement

Did i basically win ?

>>122369729
>watching let's plays
>bringing yt comment cancer over here
>>>/trash/

Any 100% Saves with the
keeper ?

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>>122369913
MORE
CO-OP
BABIES!

>>122370007
yea, from the moment you picked azazel

>>122370063
What the fuck? this board is fucking hilarious

>>122369913
>>122370178
post your ideas for cool new coop babies

mine
steak baby
moves 50% slower than normal baby because that's Edmund fun

>Jump
How the fuck can you fuck up such a simple thing so goddamned hard?

>>122370284
butt tard baby
tears up if you're upset the dlc you payed for isnt there

>>122370284
Tyrone baby
It's just a .jpg image of his face, and has a 50% chance to crash the game when entering a room

>>122369598
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3r3zht/tyrone_just_announced_new_dlc_on_cobalts_stream/

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>>122370284
>edmund baby
>shoots co-op babies at an unstoppable rapid rate
>they do nothing and never disappear
>game eventually crashes due to too many babies

>tyrone baby
>shoots a bomb at you and tells you to chew slowly

>>122369705
The worst part is the co-op babies just have regular items. Nothing original, just the same items we've been getting forever on another unit. Are there even any items on the co-op babies that you can't get through normal pickups?

Playing fucking co-op with his wife must have made her horny or some shit, since he's pushing so hard for more of it.

>>122370462
y-yay

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>>122370462
>twitch plays afterbirth

How do you think Danielle feels about BBCs?

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>>122370462
Do I need a season pass now, fucking nicalis

>>122370284
>steak baby
>moves 50% slower than normal baby because that's Edmund fun
>not needing to feed it 100 coins to do anything

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>>122370284
donation baby
it'll literally eat all your coins and then permanently jam a random door shut because it got too fat to fit through it

>>122370854
so edmund baby?

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>>122370284
>placenta baby
>just a floating picture of edmund's wife's placenta

Why the fuck won't the blue hourglass spawn
I have chaos and a method for infinite money, I've been buying everything from the shop and now it's just giving me breakfast with like 1/20 times being something other than breakfast

>>122371317
You fucked up by buying chaos. it adds a gorillion breakfasts to the pool
That said, the hourglass is always at the back of the item pool. You have to exhaust pretty much everything before it shows up

>>122371317
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3rzug8/a_complete_guide_to_being_generous_in_greed_mode/

this says that even if you breakfast the game, the hourglass may show up

>>122371317
Fuck, I guarantee this will be nerfed (either the d20 removed from greed mode or the blue hourglass resets the greed donation machine as well as the room).

Can't have people bypassing the FUN of multiple greed runs where you only donate 5 coins before it breaks.

Enjoying your 12$ two characters and new trinkets, nerds? :^)

After reading all this threads, I'm sure I'm not the only one who was really excited by the releasing of Afterbirth, but got completely fucked
Seriously, I've never been so angrier at a developer.

The worst part is, if you tell ed-boy or tyrone that they fucked up bad, rushed content and should stop being so shitty they'll say "enjoy your steak, you don't understand ;^)" and people from the community are willingly defending them

>>122371627
but we got hundreds of brand-new co-op babies to season our steak

>>122371551
kek imagine doing greed mode 200 times

at least the unlock of the lost was kinda interesting, this is just a grind for 10 hours

Just fired up steam and I saw that there's a new patch for Afterbirth.

Is everything fucked again? Do I bother trying to load a game? When will Edmund polish this turd?

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>>122371708
Just don't buy anything from the fuck again. You were fooled. It happens to everyone. Happened to me, happened to you. Just don't support him anymore and pirate his shit just to spite him.

There's nothing you can do about it. As long as Reddit continuously sucks their dicks, nothing will happen. And we all know they're not gonna stop.

I wish this didn't have to happen to one of my favorite Steam games. I loved the original. I loved Wrath of the Lamb. I loved Rebirth.

And then this shit happened.

>>122372043
that's the problem, I loved the original, and WoTL was a great improvement.
Hell, then came Rebirth and it was so fucking good I burnt 240 hours on it. That's 10 fucking whole days of my life, that have been all ruined by the shitty experience that Afterbirth came with

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>>122371708
>>122372124
The ARG + release of the Keeper was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I have never been as infuriated by a video game as I was then. And I used to play fucking MOBAs.

>>122364504
The ARG was just waiting for Edmund to decide to turn on the rest of the content.

There was no actual puzzle to solve. He's still pissed about people datamining the Lost(despite the datamining saving about 2 days at most).

>>122370462
>He's hoping Isaac is out in Europe "before December."
what

They didn't unlock the ture final boss yet

>>122372378
Seriously this

and it allowed them to try to rush the unfinished/bugged content

can i just have my 1001% achievement and be done with it already edmund
im sick of this steak

>>122372504
Nah, Edmund announced that it was actually the Hush. Nice try though. Enjoy your steak.

>>122372481
3DS and Wii U

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>>122372584
YOU WILL CHEW YOUR STEAK SLOWLY AND YOU WILL ENJOY IT

> Get Maw of the Void with Lilith
> It doesn't work

Why advertise updated weapon combo system if there are items that doesn't even work with some characters

>>122373356
Keeper doesn't work with 90% of the items.

>>122354739
But if you are playing as the lost?

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>Finally unlock keeper after hours of work
>excitedly go to play him
>he has no player sprite no items and dies in 1 hit
Good steak.
Why is this happening?

>instead of unlocking keeper starting with transcendence you unlock sticky nickels

have they ever heard of the word fun

>>122374054
What the fuck is fun?

>>122353362
>Some item rooms will just have a single trinket
Oh god no.

>>122374023
because you can't read the op you stupid steakmongler

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>>122374023
You fucking idiot, read the OP that he blatantly copy and pasted from me.

>Playing The Lost
>Spiked Chest spawns on top of me and I die

That's it, I'm resetting until I get OP item rooms

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>finally decide to beat mega stan and hush as the lost
>curse room next to the spawn
>guppy's head
>alright.jpg
>treasure room later on
>death's touch
>nice
>on basement 2
>devil deal
>guppy's paw and demon baby
>caves 1
>in the challenge room
>guppy's tail
>become guppy on caves 1 as the lost
>nothing can stop me
>devil deal on caves 1
>get brimstone
>I HAVE BECOME GUPPY
>DESTROYER OF WORLDS

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>angel rooms are bad
my favourite meme

>>122374902
>taking devil deals
good luck fighting mega stan anon

>>122374902
>takes devil deal

enjoy getting to Mega Stan anon

>>122375026
>>122375041
Jokes on you, I found dad's key.

>>122368726
>nothing too strong right???
>9 heart azazel
>Suicide King judas
>No mention of Eve

Anon please do everyone a favor and keep these ideas to yourself

>>122374961
They would be without the exploit

Can anyone here make mods for Isaac?
Well, if anyone can, I would kindly appreciate adding a text or something above the purity's aura, so you know what stats are currently boosted.

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I fucking did it! Beating Hush with the Lost is quite something. It took all nine lives but i did it without cheating and savescumming.

>>122375890
Red and blue are good, orange and yellow are useless. That's all you need to know.

>>122353916

Edmund was referring to consumables when he said "pickups", things like hearts coins and runes. Trinkets are persistent items (that you just happen to be able to drop), some of which can provide major benefits. I think it's fair to count them as items.

You know if Cancer or Maggy's Faith passive pedestal items people would be all over that shit

>breaking the game using 2 of diamonds and blank card
>the 2 of diamonds changes to a pill in my inventory

WHAT THE FUCK

>safety scissors don't work with explosive diarrhea

>>122376447
Shouldn't have picked up the pill bag

>>122376447
You picked up Lil' Baggie

I'm so sorry anon
the fun is cut short

>>122376485

They aren't troll bombs, they're lit regular bombs.

If it worked on Explosive Diarrhea then all the bombs you drop would be deactivated.

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My last unlock is mega satan as the keeper.
I literally can't find a single angel room ever.

>>122376835
Next patch:
Safety scissors only works on regular bombs instead of troll bombs

>>122376350
I wonder does Edmund count the golden bomb and golden heart as "new items". They're old item mechanics slapped onto a different sprite (golden key and a one-off piggy bank effect).

>>122377057
Taking any damage as keeper counts as taking red heart damage for the purpose of devil/angel rooms. Avoid taking any damage on the floor, or at least the boss fight, if you can help it.
You can increase your chances of getting angel rooms over devil rooms by bombing devil beggers, donating 10+ coins to the donation machine, holding another key piece, or holding a rosary bead

>>122377069

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Safety Scissors deactivated all bombs. It would fit the item. Safety Scissors are so shit they don't even cut paper, it would be kind of funny and fitting if they meant all bombs wouldn't detonate.

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>>122377078
He thinks reskinned enemies that explode after they die is a selling point.

>>122377336

We need MORE SPIDER SPAWNERS.

>have to spend 4 minutes grinding a boss that does his entire attack pattern in the first minute
>this makes the game "harder" and "more challenging"
Greed Mode's repetitive bullshit design is only topped by UG's repetitive bullshit design.
Nice game, emud.

>>122377078
They're pickups, so probably not.
I believe the actual item+trinket count for Afterbirth is 121, if you don't include babies or the Keeper's items.

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>TFW no more BUWARRRGH

What other sounds did they wreck in Rebirth?

>>122377417
New boss: ultra trite spider
Has scaling health, endlessly spawns baby long legs, which spawn crazy long legs, which spawn big spiders, which spawn small spiders