The Binding of Isaac General /boig/

1st taking your steaks slow and savoring them :^)

Why is Keeper so disappointing?

>>122308124

Worse than current Lost

>finish the lost
>pumped for new patch
>keeper revealed
>lose all drive to play
hmmm

>>122307974
>new OP info
>finally

based

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Eve for best girl

>>122308124
His health gimmick is boring and his playstyle doesn't revolve around money as much as it should
Edmund just gave up and made him another shitty "challenge" character

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.....I don't think this should happen

>>122308294
>girl

>>122308404
Yeah, me neither.
Guppy's head shouldn't appear when you're playing as lilith.
I mean, you already got box of friends with benefits.

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>>122307974
Lol

>>122307974
Sauce? Reverse image search does nothing and that sidetit is doing things to my dick.

>>122308404

Why not?

>>122308719
>STILL no new final chapter
HAHAHAHA

>>122308719
>'EXTRA BONUS CONTENT'
>WAS PRESENT IN THE ORIGINAL FILES WHEN AFTERBIRTH RELEASED
Fucking hell Smegmund is pissing me off so hard.

>>122308719
>can't admit that the content was gated even when it was found in the files
I don't know if I should feel bad for him or be mad at him

>>122308785
It's just the lost anyway.
I cropped it because the lost doesn't make my dick as hard as adversary's rock wave attacks.

>>122307974
S-Sauce?

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>Head of the Keeper still drops coins if you hit a Knight from the front
time to turn this steak up to 11

>>122309059
This >>122308975

>>122308404
You can get a third one with Cambion Conception.

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>Greed Machine jams exactly as percentage goes up to 1%

Does Edmund think this is fun? Does Edmund think people out there will genuinely enjoy this, or feel fairly challenged by it?

Full content release when? My steak is getting cold and rubbery

>>122309059
http://i.imgur.com/5RsDf32.png

>>122309434
>not even the sauce
Step up your game, anon.

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>>122307974
>>122308719
Kek

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>>122309389
YOU'RE GONNA EAT YOUR STEAK AND YOU'RE GONNA ENJOY IT

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>>122309615
Sick burns all around today.
No wonder the steak is so black.

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>>122309615
He's right you know, you are an idiot for thinking the 6 isaac fans who lived in that corner of the world are 500+ people.

>>122307974

How the hell does missinghud work. There is nothing to run.

>>122309615
>33 favorites
>Assured 1k+ ribbit upboats
Can the Steak Squad be defeated?
Is it a losing battle?

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>>122308719
>content in the original release isn't released
>content is released "haha what are you guys talking about this is EXTRA"
>"ugh internets amirite XD"
EGGMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN

>>122309918
The steak sauce is too strong for them anon, all we can do is pray for them.

>>122309615
Has he even responded to the fact that they were in the files when it was released?

So the Glowing Hourglass with The Battery has infinite uses, since when it goes back it remembers that your spacebar item had an overcharge.

>>122309615
>>122310230
B-but the sprites weren't in there so it doesn't count ;). Keep on trucking duders.

>>122310138
>>content in the original release isn't released
What was promised for the DLC that wasn't released in it or the item patch after it?

>>122308719
Oh my god

He used the shift key for the first time.

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>>122309615

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serpent's kiss isn't broken at all
solidly mid tier item

HOW EDMUND COULD'VE DONE THIS ARG WITHOUT PISSING PEOPLE OFF

>include all content promised from the beginning
>including shit like huge hades head and all of the bonus greed mode unlocks from the beginning
>slowly roll out patches that include hints towards The Keeper hidden among them, while he's still in development
>purchase a few cheap domains that could be used in the ARG
>MAYBE, if people are REALLY into it, bring it somewhere in real life, but only if it's enough people like it

THERE
NOW IT'S NOT SHITTY
FUCK YOU EGGMOUND MCMUFFIN

>Finally beat boss rush as the lost
>No godhead
>Have to beat Greed and Hush now

EGGMUND

Does the Keeper not actually start with quad shot like originally thought?

>>122310670
He starts with triple shot

Tell me about the keeper, why does he wear the rope

>>122310597
You also have to kill mega stan
Have fun broseph

>>122310782
Because he killed himself.

>>122310418
Several items unlocked by solving the ARG were part of the 120 original promised items.

Here you go, an image of steakmund fucking the plebbit subreddit.
http://i.imgur.com/2mBvlcX.jpg

>>122310959
I thought the item + trinket count came to 121 without Keeper or the babies.

>Night Light doesn't work against Gurdy Jrs
Bravo

>>122311314
well done steak is the fucking worst

How the fuck do you get Blinding Baby?

I think unlocking the lost is bugged
I just did all 4 parts and he didn't unlock. Does it matter it was Part 2 Satan? His first form suicided on curse of the tower.

I actually like playing as the keeper.
Shame the unlocks are shit, though

>>122311702
use the sun card as the lost

>>122311761
I did it as Isaac today and it unlocked

>>122311761
I did. Three separate times. Didn't take.
Am I supposed to do it on Hard?

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>>122311734

>>122311716
Are you using any mods that disable unlocks?
Did you seed the last run?
Did you die to anything in between?

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>>122311957
YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER

>>122311761
I've used like 3 of them as the Lost and it didn't unlock ( I have every completion mark unlocked of course ). Does the achievement really need the Blank Card? I can't be arsed to play more of that shitty character.

Does anyone know if the greed machine blow up chance resets to zero or goes down if you kill ultra greed as resurrected lazarus or dark judas?

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>>122311734

>>122312062
I seeded the first 3 runs and did not seed the last run, should I have?
I have no mods
I did no runs in between

>keeper
>boss rush
>cage+adversary

someone post a reaction image for me i'm too busy losing my will to live

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>>122311734

>>122312260
>final area and boss
>neither of them are final

>cheatengine the greed machine to 1000
>feel kind of bad when I see the fireworks
>remember steak
>feeling dissipates
delicious
is it done yet? can I move on to the next meal? or is there still more gated content?

>>122312260
thanks for the brand new chapter and path eggsmund

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>doing a D20 breaking greed mode run
>get strange attractor
>already have ludo tech
>bunch of shit in the shop because of key bum
>"well let's just move all thus fucking bullshit to the side so i can actually see what the fuck i'm doing
>press left
>game crashes

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>>122312314
On the house.

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>>122312314

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>>122312260
>the advertised new area/chapter is just one tiny prep room and a boss room
That's actually so scummy

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>>122312260
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

>>122310596
desu for 99.999% of the players it's still:

oh there's some kind of puzzle
oh it's solved and I had no way to participate
oh i gotta grind 999 coins in the greed machine

the idea was terrible no matter what

>>122312260
jesus fucking christ

this is really all we're getting isnt it

what a fucking lazy expansion what the fuck were they even working on for a year

>>122312782
How has Nicalis not garnered a fuckhorrible reputation after all of this?

>>122312864
Reddit.

maybe if keeper started with head of the keeper and another heart he would be good

>>122312782
Coop babies.

>>122312864
They've always had a fuckhorrible reputation.
ALWAYS.
I remember back when Rebirth was coming out, everyone on /v/ was thinking it was going to be fucking horrible just because Nicalis was developing it. I legitimately believe the only reason Rebirth turned out so good is because they had Edmund watching over their every move.

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>>122312314

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We all know what he's gonna nerf now. Hell, with Serpent's Kiss, it makes the Hush fight so trivial.

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>>122312260
>the new final area is a hallway, two treasure rooms, a shop and a "final" boss that isn't even a final boss at all
That is so fucking scummy
What the fuck edmund

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>>122312314

>>122312140
if you die on any of the new alternate floors it won't work

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Fuck your bullet hell bullshit Edmund, I made my own.

Dear god, please, stop the steak and eggmund shitposting. I come here to read about tBoI and end up seeing only caps with people whining about the game. If you don't like the game don't even bother to post here. Don't play it and do something else

>>122314657
Go back to damage controlling on twitter, edmund

>>122314657
>>>/r/eddit

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>The Lost
>You can't fly
>You can't fire spectral tears
>You now fire 3 shots 3 times slower resulting in identical DPS
>You can take only 1 devil deal at a time and your Holy Mantle disappears when you do so, you can't take 2 heart devil deals at all
>Your Holy Mantle recharges only with coins
>Taking a health down pill takes away your Holy Mantle
>You don't have the D4
>You lose 2 luck
>You lose 15% speed

How do you like your new character?

>>122314657
>expecting a discussion about the game on vg
Maybe try reddit i hear its pretty good

>>122313281
What about that limbo thing people mentioned a few days ago? Was that a ruse too like the old man sprites?

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>>122314657
Where do you think you are?

>>122314657
>thinking people won't talk about hot shit that's happening to a game they like
>thinking people complaining means they don't like the game
Please fuck off back to whatever hugbox you came from.

>>122314801
Nice fucking response cunt, I hope you're enjoying you're steak.

Post the biggest hacks in BoI history:
>Bisnap
>Tyrone
>The guy running platinumgod

>>122314197
I didn't, but I did die to my own bombs in a sin room if that matters.

>>122314937
Oh okay so this is bait

Neat

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uh, okay

i guess this makes up satan occasionally selling bibles

>>122314919
I come from boig pre afterbirth senpai:^)

>>122314997
Honestly? Scumegg. He's not even trying to face all the bullshit that's happening.

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It seems ultra greeds scaling resistance can't keep up with this or perhaps was it patched?

>>122315168
The scaling comes in after "Everything is Terrible 2" unlocks, and I think its less effective than it was before.

>>122315168

The scaling definitely seems to be reduced by a lot. I killed him in under 20 seconds in a run that wasn't even particularly powerful earlier.

>>122315089
He doesn't give a shit. All he wants to do is play the fucking game.
He's complained SEVERAL times about how some of the new shit added is absolutely stupid, primarily the Speed challenge, the Azazel nerf, and something else I'm pretty sure.
His videos haven't even reached the current update yet, and I'm sure he's going to call edmund out for how fucking dumb the greed mode grind is going to be.

>>122315168
Everything is Terrible 2 implements the health scaling, and even then it really is MUCH weaker than it was before.

Talk as much shit about the keeper as you want, but if you manage to get the epic fetus with him you're pretty much set.
Those 3 rapid fire missiles, hnghh.

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I don't know what to choose

>>122315596
Lil' Haunt OP

>>122315596

Dead onion seems like the pretty obvious choice here, unless you already have piercing shots that I can't see.

>>122315553
>His videos haven't even reached the current update yet, and I'm sure he's going to call edmund out for how fucking dumb the greed mode grind is going to be.
As if some autist with over 500 episodes of the same fucking game would care about grinding.

>>122315591
Nigga, get Epic Fetus with ANYONE and you're set.
Hell, get Dr Fetus with anyone and you're set.

>>122315596
Lil' Haunt is hell of a lot more helpful than you expect. Take him.

>>122315596
>two charge box
Choose death.

Go for the Leech for the healing.

>>122315591

>if you manage to get [broken item that is a guaranteed victory if you aren't a mental defective] you are set.

No shit.

>>122315760
Still, with the keeper they're rapid fire.

>>122315760
Did they fix dr fetus in afterbirth?
I remember first getting it in rebirth a year ago and the damage was awful

>>122315756
Anon, he has 800 episodes of Isaac and 800 episodes of Rebirth.
But the point is that Greed Mode is boring as fuck. He plays Isaac because he thinks that it's interesting and different, and you're playing to see if you can win with what's given to you. He doesn't play it to jam coins into a machine 500 FUCKING times until the arbitrary unlock conditions are met.

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>Old man found in the files
>He has kickass robes
>He is unique
>He would fit the theme of Greed being healed by our generosity, turning him from the stone cold dead person into light hearted old man that just wants to escape from basement still using the powers that his old greed mode gave him.

NEW CHARACTER TURNS OUT TO BE LITERALLY REUSED GREED SPRITES

>>122315905
Yeah, in Rebirth it was only like, 3X or 6X your damage, and it's 15X your damage now.
Likewise, I think epic used to be 15X, and now it's 30X

>>122316078
An old ass man has nothing to do in Isaac

What does the second "special shopkeepers" achievement do?

>>122315232
>>122315553
I allready unlocked Everything is Terrible 2, i had around 500 coins during that webm.

In this run I basically bought out all the pools to get the hourglass. But it's good the scaling is toned down a bit when doing regual runs.

>IV bag removed from greed mode
>piggy bank removed from greed mode
>blank card removed from greed mode
what's next

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Just fuck my steak up senpai.

>>122316430
Piggy Bank and Blank Card are still in

>>122316435

L O L
O
L O L
STEAK!!!

>>122315596
Lil Haunt will be hilarious with a 2 charges BoF.

>>122316430
>>piggy bank removed from greed mode
>>blank card removed from greed mode

I found both of those in my most recent run.

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Finally, I get extra container, it was so worth it.
>Turns out to be just a singular coin.
I guess I can go fuck myself now.

>>122316618
They have been removed from the pools, you can check on platinum dog..

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>>122316078
>>122316078
>>122316078

>>122310959
This is false, though.

>get enemy spawn from button press in greed mode
>4 super envys in the shop
epic. simply epic

>>122310597
Have you tried uninstalling the DLC to see if it works?

>>122316829
The fuck are you on about? I broke greed mode with Blank Card an hour ago. They're still there.

>the worst character in the game
>most of his unlocks make him better instead of giving items
>even fully-upgraded, he's still the worst in the game
>because he's so tedious and unfun, after you get his unlocks there's literally no other reason to play him
great job edmund

>>122317163
Then I dunno.
I can't find them myself and platinum dog says so.

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>playing as Keeper
>Super Envy
>in that really REALLY FUCKING TINY room

UNAVOIDABLE
DAMAGE
DOES

NOT
O
T

EXIST

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>>122316634

>>122317319
S T O P

N O

M O R E

S T E A K S

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http://www.moddingofisaac.com/mod/888/oldmankeeper
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8pfv39upomr85u8/Old+Man+Keeper.rar

>>122317319
It's F U.
As in Fuck U.

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>>122317241
If you mean this part where it doesn't list it as being in the Greed Mode Item Pool, neither is anything else in the Rebirth section. The only ones mentioning Greed Mode in their description are the ones in the Afterbirth section.

Keeper daily when.

>>122317251
That isn't unavoidable damage, though. It's a very hard room, but if you're good or lucky, you won't get hit.

>>122317485
Thanks anon, normal keeper looks like a retarded greed.

>>122317535
What the fuck?
I swear on my godhead unlocked, it said 'GREED MODE TREASURE ROOM' or something on those.

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>>122317113
Just walk out and back in.

>select all images with steak
MEME CONFIRMED

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How I would improve the Keeper:

>Keep all his existing mechanics.

>Keeper now starts with 1 cent.
If you run out of money, you instantly die.

>1 heart devil deals cost 15 cents.
>2 heart devil deals cost 30 cents.

>When playing as Keeper, there is a special item in every shop that costs 30 cents and grants him an extra heart container.

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How come Greed gets all the attention? Ultra Wrath and playable Wrath and all the others to a lesser extent when?

>>122314997
What did bisnap do? I thought he was honest.

>>122318015
>basically a megaman mode
>you need to keep blowing up the rocks to progress
>if you run out of bombs, you die

>700 coins to go for the keeper
I got bored around 220, time for CE?

>>122318216
There is literally nothing wrong with bypassing Edmund's steak meme timegate tedium bullshit. Go for it.

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which one guys?

The greed machine wouldn't piss me off so bad if it didn't jam every 5-15 coins. Fuck you edmund this isn't fucking fun.

>>122318347
>the keeper
Bottom.

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>blank card + ? card no longer gives free items
>it now banishes you to the I am error room and deletes both cards
>mfw

>>122318431
Hope you like the reference!

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>>122318387
this wont help much

>>122318524
Reference to what? Zelda or is there another reference from using the combo?

>>122318431
Edmund fucked that up too?
God fucking dammit.

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wait, is mcmillen's wild ride really over? no more limbo or old man char?

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oh, OKAY!
If you use Guppy's Paw as The Keeper, it will delete all of your health.
You won't die either.
However, if you do anything, even pick up an item, you die.
Brilliant.

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holy shit

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>>122317863
Give him the fucking keeper head for gods sake. How could you not fucking add the item that belongs to the character? And what if gives coins sometimes? The character has only 2 hits to take. He can't fly, he can't make devil deals, he can't restore the hearts by picking up coins but by getting "health ups" instead. What the fuck were they thinking?

Also why the fuck blue baby doesn't have petrifying poop as a starting trinket?

>>122318980
Hush's bullshit prep area and fight is counted as the "new final area" and the old man was a red herring, so yeah.

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I dont get the steak meme

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>>122316078
>>122316908
http://www.moddingofisaac.com/mod/888/oldmankeeper
or
http://www.mediafire.com/download/8pfv39upomr85u8/Old+Man+Keeper.rar
There you go.

How the fuck do I use CE? I'm at 140 coins and already tired of this horseshit

>>122319193
Eddmund said something about dataminers being akin to eating a $100 steak in one bite.

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>>122316078

>another gimmick character
so is Edmund just done with creating actual new characters?

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d4 is my favorite item now that it doesn't breakfast your game after a few uses with a lot of items

>Head Trauma
I'm gonna give myself real head trauma for this shit

>>122319808
Better than lazarus

>>122319808
>more health for the bosses = difficulty
>less health for the player = difficulty
>gimmicky shit as a character = fun
>getting fun combos and items = nerf
Thats what edmund thinks.

>>122319919
at least lazarus is something but 'low hp lmao'

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>>122307974
reminder to worship his feet

>>122319808
Honestly, what do you really want? I agree that the Keeper could've been handled much better but I don't really know what else they could do for new characters.

We already have a bunch of "isaac, but different!" characters and several gimmick-based characters.

>Sticky Nickel
>Keeper now holds.. A Penny!
For such a hard to unlock character, why does he have such crappy unlocks? I'll never undestand Edmund's weird sense of humor.

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>>122316078
>You have the entire bible and any faiths at your fingertips as long as you make it relevant to the game to create new characters and have interesting mechanics based on their stories and morals
>Reuses sprites within the game
>DUDE GREED LMAO

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at least I was able to make this Godhead work with Azazel.

>>122320079
>footfag
Get the fuck out of here.

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>People cheating in 999 coins for greed machine
All you need to do is find Glowing Hourglass, I just got from 300 to 1000 coins in one run just because I found the hourglass.
How retarded can you be?

Post ideas for Keeper unlocks that are actually good.

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>>122320137
What I don't understand still is why there are people out there who right now think early access dlc is OK by adding an "arg" and totally not an excuse to say they didn't complete the expansion.

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BASED CHAOS

>>122318015
Ultra Wrath with Epic Fetus missles when

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Alright /boig/, what item would YOU give the other shitty ignored characters through unlocks to fix them, or at least make them less shit?
>Maggy now starts with Sworn Protector
>Lazarus now starts with PhD
>??? now starts with Mulligan

>>122320352
Do you need a battery item of some kind?

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rune bag is super useful on chest/dark room

>>122320352
Fuck off edmund, I bet that's gonna be fixed soon too. Doesn't matter if I cheated or not, it's still the same outcome. More or less, I have to endure less autism by trying to do it "legit". And what do I get for doing it? A shitty character thats worse than the lost with holy mantle? Wowie, sure I am impressed.

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>>122316078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qwU1LQZA5g
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


I am unbelievably salty right now.

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>decide to play something else after i finally beat ??? with Lilith
>leave the game open
>start playing metal slug with my xbox controller
>beat the game and notice that isaac is still open
>maximize the window
>i apparently started a ??? run because it was stealing inputs from Metal Slug
>eh what the hell, let's see where this run goes
>sacrificial dagger
>book of shadows
>level 3 meat boy
>polaroid invincibility
>literally nothing stood a chance
>finally beat isaac with ??? and unlock the D6
lol

>get chaos and missing no.

Can be anymore of a madman?

>>122320352
>spending hours throwing a chaos card, donating one coin, and repeating literally 1000 times
>instead of editing the value of a number in 3 seconds
Why

>>122320778
Not >>>122320352 but I used that method since I am a moralfaggot.

>>122320778
So how do you do that?

>>122317485
that looks more like some kind of old man isaac or his dad or jesus or something. might end up being some lost 2.0 shit honestly.

but fuck it we all know theres nothing left now, fucking eggmund.

Marked is the worst item in the fucking game
I am actually hesitant to use the d4/d100 out of fear of rolling into this shit

>>122321104
you mean lost 3.0
keeper's 2.0

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>paralysis still drops with phd

>>122321104
Lilith might be isaac's interpretation of his mom.
Could this old man be isaac's interpretation of his dad?

Makes sense.

>>122321463
>one makes you large still happens with PHD

>>122321576
>more hitbox to pick stuff up with!

>>122321123
>Marked is the worst item in the fucking game
Get Ipecac with it, then try saying that shit again

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I feel dead inside every time I see this.

So this is seriously all the steak we're getting?

>>122321576
i can get behind larger being "neutral"
but on what fucking planet is being paralyzed for a couple seconds neutral

>>122320690
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYKPdNvH800
heer u go anon

>>122321975
Slow down

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>Lil Chest and Mystery Sack are the same thing

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>>122322070
Speaking of sacks,
>mfw finding Sack Head

>>122321975
We still don't know what the fuck is going on with the supposed hush character.

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>>122321975
CHEW IT SLOWLY

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Aha..haha..ha

>>122321645
Size doesn't affect your hitbox at all.

>>122321123
That's not how you spell Bob's Brains.

>>122322070
Does Lil Chest not drop trinkets sometimes?

>>122322482
Bob's brain is fine if you're not a retard.

>kekkeroonireborn: @Tyronerodriguez how do you eat your steaks
>TyroneRodriguez: @Kekkeroonireborn rare and very bloody

is this an analogy for something boys

You know Edmund, it's really hard to be a moralfag when the fucking greed machine clogs after two coins a few times in a row.

>>122323137
Even he acknowledges the game is undercooked, but he likes them that way.

>>122320890
>go to greed machine
>new scan for current number of coins in machine
>put coin in machine
>do next scan for the number now
>repeat last 2 steps until you only get 1 result in the values list
>double click the value
>edit and set to 998
literally elementary school shit

>>122322482
Well that's a disappointment. I always thought being smaller made it easier to dodge things. Where's Isaac's hitbox anyway?

Also...
>People still think Bob's Brain is a bad item

>>122323425
Better yet, let's say you have something like 57 coins in the machine
>Set scan to Exact Value, value as 57
>Scan now
>Add a coin to machine, increasing it from 57 to 58
>Change Exact Value to Increased Value By or something
>Change 57 to 1
>Next scan
>One result in values list
Easy.

How the hell do I even avoid taking damage in that trap room with a troll bomb and a ton of TNT barrels?

You can't get reach the switch fast enough! It all happens in a millisecond.

>>122324154
you have to position yourself right so you dont get hit by any of the TNT

Today I learned freezing effects like Mom's Contacts and Midas Touch are fucking OP against Ultra Greed

Kamikaze is fucking amazing now

>>122320615
Little too OP imo.
Blue Baby should start with petrified poop, maggy should start with her faith, and Lazarus should start with a suicide king card.

>>122324519
how is it different?

is it true that they were planning to add in modding support, mods are the only thing that can fix this game now

>>122324519
I came here to ask if Kamikaze had been reverted to its old form. Glad to see it's viable.

>>122324819
Doesn't hurt you anymore. Probably a bug

Do those asshole spiked treasure rooms show up when you're playing Judas?

Seriously, how come they add so many of those stupid babies and yet have no plans to add online co-op?

How hard can that be?

>>122325109
What kind of question is that? Of course curse rooms still show up.

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just fuck my size up farm

>>122320615
>keeper has greed shot, he can only really be fixed by letting him get more coin containers though, or letting him get spirit hearts
>maggy has slightly higher fire rate
>lost starts with little haunt

>>122325109
Of course they do. Hope you've got some bombs handy.

>>122325263
No, not curse rooms. The treasure rooms that block the item with 3 rocks and a spike patch.

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>doing a new save and all the challenges
>solar system
>manage to get incubus
>get jack shit the rest of the run
>lose to mom's heart terratoma spider spam

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>>122320321
but his feet are adorable tho

>>122325487
Oh, those treasure rooms. Yeah they do, thanks edmund. You either need to wait for a bomb/spirit heart to tank it or just ignore the item if it's bad.

When is Eggman going to fix The Bloat's fucked up hitboxes?

>>122325109
they should at least fucking make the item in the middle of 4 spikes so you can at least potentially get past them without getting damage. next patch everything in the game is going to be nerfed so hard that you have to get brimstone on the first floor to win any run

>>122325860
working as intended :^)

>>122316078
'Y know, the Keeper's look makes sense considering the Greed Mode ending, but they should at least make the old man sprite a separate character.

They could name him Moses, or Noah or something.

>beat greed only once
>had 0 coins to give
how do you guys do it

holy shit the keeper is actually good

it's pretty sad some of you already decided he's bad and unlocked everything through cheats and shit

>>122326487
you can't fool me breadpond

>>122326391
Ultra greed is easy as hell if you're remotely good at the game and know what items to take. The greed machine breaking after 2 coins is the real problem

>>122326487
Don't you have a steak to eat Edmund?

>>122326391
Save up when you feel you're powerful enough to take on ultra greed, ideally sometime around the womb or sheol

Taking hits on the ultra greed fight itself makes you drop coins, try to pick up any you drop before UG does or he'll use them to regain HP

Blow up the shopkeepers near the top of the room for a few more cents if you still got room to donate

>unlock the Keeper
>has no noose around his neck

It's shit

I thought Keeper would be like the enemy
You would just hop around instead of walk

>>122326391
D4 wins most runs and it shows up a lot, otherwise just gun for damage and tear rate and have a lot of damage mitigation for greed fight (celtic cross, infamy, cancer, virgo, etc.), it's really not hard to beat ultra greed if you can outlast him. and getting hit only happens if you have to get close to him or he does a lot of key spawns

Can't they make it so you can at least increase the Keeper's health somehow? It really sucks not being able to take 2-heart devil deals normally.

>>122326487
The Keeper would be good if he could take more than 2 hits.

>>122326747
the health pips look lazily done as well

>>122326785
The fuck are you on about? None of the three greeds were ever shown jumping.

>>122327045
I meant the little greed heads that do the double shot and are spawned by Super/Ultra Greed.

>playing as Greed
>can't get past Caves 1

I can't be this bad.

>>122326747
>pick up an item
>his head turns into Isaac

So does The Keeper come with coin tears or does he just have triple shot?

>>122327045
The hopping greed heads are called keepers
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Keeper_%28Monster%29#Keeper

>>122327174
Wrong thread faggot

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not as bad as pre afterbirth lost

>>122327269
literally fucking this

DID THEY FIX THE AZAZEL NERF

>edmund finally changes The Lost from being a bullshit unfun fuck you character into a legitimately decent challenge character with the possibility of risk/reward
>adds in another bullshit unfun fuck you character

>>122327624
What if old man is even worse than both of these?

>>122327513
Yes, he's now only got a tears down now, pretty much back to normal after a tears upgrade or two

>>122327624
What'd he change about the lost?

>>122327772
he apparently starts with holy mantle

>>122327772
Donate enough coins to the greed machine and you unlock permanent Holy Mantle.

>>122327772
>gained Spectral Tears
>gained Holy Mantle
Afterbirth Lost is actually a fun but challenging character now. The D4 is fucking useless, though.

>>122327772
Starts with spectral tears and the D4, donating 879 coins in Greed Mode makes him start with Holy Mantle too. Using D4 rerolls holy mantle but doesn't change the spectral tears.

>homing shot doesn't work with azazel

why though

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>>122327432
It's actually pretty easy, this guy is better than most people think and it's not a bullshit character at all. This is literally my first keeper run and I'm going to beat isaac, ??? and mega satan. Sadly I missed the fucking boss rush for 12 seconds, fuck curse of the maze.

>>122327908
it works if you get enough range ups

>>122328008
He seems really easy to break, too. Couldn't you get infinite Blood Bank plays with him, and then become immortal with the IV Bag?

>>122321463
>>122321576
>ADDICTED still drops with PhD

What the fuck

>>122321576
>not wanting to be a big guy

>>122328195
Nope, I got the IV bag and it didn't give me a coin when I used it. Piggy bank didn't work either.

The swallowed penny does work however. It's like playing Sonic, get hit, pick up the coin before you get hit again.

Guys help

My Keeper is invisible and dies from one hit.

Wat do?

>>122328593

>He tried to eat his steak too quickly

Tragic, really.

>>122328593
Delete your players.xml and start a new run with him

>>122325892
even if there were 4 spikes and you went through the corner, you'd have to get it perfectly or you'd just bounce off the pedestal and take damage anyway

>people actually expected the keeper to be the old man
Did not a single fucking one of you look at the Head of the Keeper? I mean jesus fucking christ.

>>122329065
see
>>122327312

Original Keeper unlock video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKwOFZoC9NI

>why isn't blue womb a fully developed floor?
>why doesn't greed mode have variations?
>why isn't there anything past mega satan?
>why are half the new unlocks co-op babies?
>why is lilith pathetic to unlock but keeper is unbearable without cheating?
>why does everything get nerfed?
>what went wrong?

so, has Edmund's secret character fetish been satisfied? can the next DLC be more concentrated on gameplay?

>>122329932
Because Nicalis is lazy.
Because Nicalis is lazy.
Because Nicalis is lazy.
Because Nicalis is lazy.
Because Lilith is meant to be a regular character along the lines of Maggy, Cain, Azazel, so on, whereas the Keeper is meant to be a super secret challenge character like The Lost.
Because Edmund and Tyrone hate fun.
Nicalis.

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I cannot understand the mentality that it was okay to withhold items and content purely because of a EBIN PUZZLE

they're calling the people who just wanted to play the game and are mad they had to wait the crazy ones? This isn't extra reward content, this is the fucking DLC WE PAID FOR

WHY ARE PEOPLE NOT ONLY NOT MAD, BUT ACTIVELY DAMNING THOSE WHO ARE

It isn't that hard to get 999 on the greed machine.

>Reset until you find D20 in the shop (takes less than 5 minutes on average since D20 is in multiple shop pools)
>Go to next floor with D20
>Do Waves 1-10 without picking up any coins
>Reroll coins into chests, open chests, buy battery in shop, use D20 again, repeat until game broken
>Get blue hourglass and chaos card
>Enjoy your Keeper and 100+ Eden tokens

>>122326487
I'm not eating your steak, fatmund

>>122330204
The Keeper's fine. Yeah I'm not a fan of the ARG, but at least it wasn't what we were advertised, he was a bonus.
The items being held back was fucking stupid and anyone who disagrees is either in denial, got used to triple a developers fucking them in the ass, or a fan boy.

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I think we won, boys

Does d4 reroll lost's holy mantle?

>>122330513

Yes

savor that steak fucker

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I'm so fucking done with the games industry

how do they survive when they harbor such open contempt for their customers and lie to their faces

and yet people are bending over backwards to defend him after all of this

>>122330451
Enjoy shooting one shot per 10 seconds or whatever.

Is the Glowing Hourglass actually available for the shop in Greed mode?

I just want this shit done.

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>>122330614
>first purchase is a Mini Mush

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>>122329932
Everything is fully complete.

Please eat up.

Did anyone manage to unlock the 1001% lolnerd completion achievement yet?

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>>122330597

>I lost my faith in humanity over video game DLC

go outside

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post your favorite items

>>122330708
not in humanity you shitfucker, in the games industry, take the steak out of your mouth and learn to fucking read

>>122330708
He said the game industry, not all of humanity.

If video games continue to be so blatantly terrible I will stop playing video games altogether and find a new hobby you autist

>>122330285
How is that ANY different from using Cheat Engine?
I would've been glad to jump through absurd fucking unlock conditions, as long as the unlock conditions are interesting enough to go through. Grinding 999 FUCKING coins is FUCKING stupid, though, and isn't fun at all.
This isn't like Monster Hunter, or some JRPG, where you grind to get stronger so you can fight stronger enemies, this is doing the SAME. EXACT. FUCKING. THING. at least FIFTY FUCKING TIMES, the SAME EXACT THING that isn't even fun in the first place.
It's like starting an MMO and it going "Hey, there's this really dangerous bear threatening our town, and if we don't stop it, we're in serious danger!"
"OKAY HOW CAN I HELP!"
"Well first you need to kill 10 wolves!"
>after doing it
"Good job, now you need to kill 10 more wolves, and you need to do this 40 times before you can fight that bear!"

FUCK YOU Ed, FUCK YOU Tyrone, FUCK YOU Nicalis.

>>122330428
The worst part is I still love Ed's games. SMB was great, Isaac is great, so was Rebirth, and Afterbirth is still pretty fun, and I'm hyped for Mewgenics. But like fuck am I ever buying an Isaac xpac day 1 ever fucking again.

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>>122330737

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>>122330737

>>122330597
>it's a bonus because we didn't launch the game with it!!

honestly edmund sounds like a fucking manchild. bonus content is stuff you make AFTER the game, and add months later in a free patch.
keeper and all associated content is stuff that was obviously a part of afterbirth, kept from people as a part of the EPIC ARG that he dropped hints for the entire fucking time which ruined it, and is now complaining that people are calling him out on it

this on top of the retarded steak comment, the irrational hatred for dataminers, and his attitude towards his players... is he the new phil fish?

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>mfw finally getting RPG after countless shitty runs where I don't get Level 4 Bandage Girl thanks to Pyro and Sharp Plug showing up early and me conserving my bombs until Wafer + Epic Fetus + Monster Manual showed up in the Chest
Now I can rest until Nicalis shits out the console versions of Afterbirth because my PC is a Toaster.

>>122331154
>is he the new phil fish

Say what you will about Fez, at least the whole game was there

>>122331170
You could always buy the 3DS version :^)

I missed the conclusion of the ARG last night, decided to just go to bed. Can anyone fill me in?

>>122331217
fez was fucking great tho, just headed by pretension incarnate

>>122331170
hey man, at least you'll get all of Afterbirth on the day you pay for it!

Yo this guy doesn't seem to take damage from kamikaze

>>122331531
Nobody does.
Kamikaze doesn't do self damage anymore.

>>122331531
No one does, it's glitched.
Enjoy it while you can.

>>122320697
I can't believe you would actually think anyone was going to buy this story.

>decide to check out modding
>go to moddingofisaac.com
>have to login via steam to download anything
>the login page doesn't log me in, instead it just keeps reloading the login page with the fields blank, no error messages or anything, but steam's front page logs me in just fine
>can't get mods
good fucking job, reddit
jesus fucking christ can anything go right regarding this game?

>>122331660
Change your Steam password ASAP

>>122331660
>click newest mods
>see "dankest depths"
i went this fucking long without seeing a shitty fucking meme based on the dank depths
i thought were were fucking past it, but no
fuck you reddit and fuck everything involved

Okay so i walked into a room that had two locks, there was a giant dice one the ground with the six sided face, the room got dark and shook, and now i have a ton of items, what happened?

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Should I keep rolling or not?
This die makes The Lost a lot of fun to play.

>>122331973
That's a dice room, the effect is different based on how many pips are visible on the dice, ones and sixes will reroll all the items you have on you.