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>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.
- Check your ping with the servers: http://cloudharmony.com/speedtest-latency-for-aws:ec2-us-east-1

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (Closed): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
Tree of Savior is somewhat unique in that the games translation is heavily supplemented by fan contributions provided at IMC's offical Github. Is this genius or laziness? It's both!
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1st for miko when
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lazy fucks
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Remove BR.
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ded game

ded thread
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forgot

>Leveling Guide for Idiots
Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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How does it know
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>>122232782
I thought this guy was only running around with a meme name, but no. He's actually BR.
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Anyone wanna sell me an arde dagger for 500k?
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>>122232958

/r/ NOOT NOOT scrolling image
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Lamia going full pol
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This game got boring pretty fast compared to other Korean grinders.
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Anybody want to sell me a non-jew price for Vubbe Fighter Blood on Zemyna?
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Did the devs forget to add mobs to Vilna or what? This place is completely bare
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>>122233021
>Exp/Hr
>103,680
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>>122233246
I JUST TRIED IT AND WAS ACTUALLY QUESTING, GOD ANON
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>>122231890
>>122231582
I'm already archer c2-sapperc2 soon, so I just wanted a class to try out before I take Reiter, which I really wanted to have because it looks so cool
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This is everything I've ever wanted.
It's only at level 3 too.
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Someone give me tips to git gud at elementalist. Fuckers are cancelling my castings all the time and I'm getting my shit kicked just fro trying to use it's skills.
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When does dungeon counts reset?
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>no mob density in 95% of the zones
>long respawns
>forced to save cards at key moments or you're forced to grind for days straight to get out of no quest hell
>awful class balance, the worst I've ever seen
>completely useless classes that do nothing
>completely broken stats
>linear leveling in a game that greatly encourages you to make tons of characters and try tons of different and unique class combinations
How long will this game last at release?
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>>122233412
May I request a screenshot with your character stats tab open and item inventory open?
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/overkill-xp-x2-5/113541/19
>because Right now Barbarian is the worst class in sustainability, yea Swordsman have the higher hp pool if you compare it to other melee character...but hey barbarian don't have self heal like monk or immunity to dmg.. etc...etc...etc...etc... and they dmg isn't that ■■■■■■■ great

>this thread
my sides
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What if there's another wave of changes on stuff on the kOBT?
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>>122233447
If you didnt go wizard 3, then good job falling for the pyro/cryo meme.
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>>122233412
I'm going for the same build. Funny.

Although I think Doppel skills will be for 2h swords only in later patches.
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>>122233661
I wanted to try as many classes as posible so I'm just going one cicle with every class.
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>>122233458

In 4 hours and 25 minutes.
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>>122233014
>Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot
this is so wrong though
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Anyone 190+ on gabija wanna do the dungeon?
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Will toyhammer stabbing be the new brabarian?
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>>122233807
But then they'll have to change Bash to only work with swords or thrust and Hoplite skills to not work with blunt weapons.
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>>122234186
cata stabbing with galin is better and that's not the new barb, so no.
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wtb> lapis katzbalger
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>>122234358
I have the recipe.
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Any alchemist in Zemyna? Please awaken my weapon I beg you ;_;
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How do you build Sadhus? Do they go dex like a physical damage class, or not like a cleric?
Also, they're decent, right?
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>buy shit on broker
>try to use it
>the number you've used is less then what you currently have

nice exploits guys
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Cheat Engine table for big head mode:

https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7ba46f9fc588eedfce3a
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>>122234186

No, because stabbing has a cooldown.

Corsair C2 hits that fast nearly 24/7. And the buff will have 24/7 uptime at C3, which koreans are getting in their OBT.
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EVERYTHING MUST BURN!

You can potentially get four pillars of fire going if your connection is good.
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>>122234857
You have an item with less than 30% durability remaining.
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>>122234787
C-cute. But how do I use this
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>>122234857
Fire pillar spam? That's neat.
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>>122232937
that's so adorable and I want to shake that wand too someday
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>>122234857
but does it actually do damage?
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Hoe do you link items in chat, again?

Also to trade Monster Gems you have to socket them into some cheap item, right?
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Is fade good? Cleric players.

I can sort of imagine it has situational benefits, both for damage dealing and support classes
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>>122235091
Open up your inventory and then Control Left click the item you want to link
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>>122233831
that is the worst way to assess a class
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is anyone else taking way longer on load screens today, or is it just my internet being awful?
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How do alchs actually sell the potions they make, marketplace only?
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>>122234950
With Cheat Engine, senpai.
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>>122235043
Eh, they do 500-600 damage a tick.
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how do I cheat engine the money so I can buy a meme dagger for myself?
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>>122233661
>Needing mage 3 for safecasting when shield does the same at rank 1
memes.
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>>122235450
I never used one. Do I have to be a l337 hacker to use it
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>>122235462
not bad if you can spam them like that i guess
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>>122235362
Thanks mane
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>>122235438
I just use the market
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>>122235535
Ollydbg to bypass verification, the CE your thing
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So, is the main quest just gone after going to kateen forest? I've already done all the maps including sunset flag, I guess I'm supposed to go the pilgrim route from fedimian right?

Do I get a main questline at some point or was that it?
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>>122234736
pls respond
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>>122235235
+ Helps you protect your body as Sadhu
+ Can run around messing with quests objectives and the like while invisible to enemies, you can honestly do anything while Faded except:
- Breaks if you cause damage for ANY reason
- Will not protect you from AoEs

If you're not going Sadhu I see no reason to go beyond C1 Cleric.
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>>122226262
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>>122235738
Level up more like literally every other time
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>>122235902
To what point senpai?
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>>122235743
full Int, you aren't support you are dps but you can heal.
Sadhu life in instances is usually
>doing highest dps
>doing all of the healing
>having to pull with safety wall because your swordie is some retarded brbarian
class is great and fun as fuck, although they really only have 1 good skill (+a second good one at c2, but both skills are amazing so it's fine).
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>>122235595
>Do I have to be a l337 hacker to use it
No. It's just a pain to set up at first.

Download that file from github (right click on Raw, save as Client_tos.CT).
Download CheatEngine and run it.
Click the blinking button and select the game process (Client_tos.exe).
Click the Open button on the right of the blinking one and open the CT file.
Check the checkbox on the left of BigHeadMode.
Now the "Character Select" button (the one which returns to your home thing) will toggle big heads.

Uncheck theBigHeadMode checkbox to disable.
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>bugged boss
>giant peltasta
ebin
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This literally doesn't do what the tooltip says at all.
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If anybody has any translation requests for items that are incorrect or skills that are confusing, I'm happy to put through a pull request and change some things.
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>>122236454
do you even know what it's supposed to do?

that's just a random google translation
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I'm at level 126 and without any quests. Any suggestions? Please don't say grind WT F5
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>>122236628
mage tower 5F
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>>122236602
It knockbacks enemies you hit with Smite. And I guess it does 50% less damage. Or maybe it's 50% less physical damage only.
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Dullahan event up on Gabija!
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>>122236914
>Dullahan event again
Is there ever going to be, like, a kissing event on Gabija?
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>>122237029
You fags are making me want to reroll on Gabija when I'm already 120 on Lemyna
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>>122237029
i'll kiss you at dullahan
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Wow this gens dead as fuck. What happened?
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This game is really lacking in the voicing.
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>>122237161
someone forgot to make new thread so no one is here
also people stopped playing cause wipe imminent
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>>122236628

Grind Mage Tower F5 until you are level 130. Then do the level 130 dungeon and grind Mage Tower F5 until you are 137, then keep questing for like couple hours, then grind Demon Prison until you hate the game.
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>>122236914
So world boss or does event refer to something else?
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I've found I'm more likely to surrender a grind spot to female characters
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>>122236914
IM STUCK LOADING TO FEDIMIAN
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>>122237409
world boss, you need to kill 200 mobs to spawn it, hence event
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>>122237475
it's fine, there's a lot of time before it will be killed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgYEZicGUk8
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Thinking on going Cleric > Krivis > Dievdirby > Sadhu C2 > Druid
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Help
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>>122238001
You should think about stopping.
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>>122237161
they announced how pay2win as fuck the game is going to be and everyone got scared, they're lurking BnS now.
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>>122238129
You can't stop the future.
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>>122237894
Feel when playing with BMG volume at 0%
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Does anybody know how to obtain wands? :
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/wand/?item_name=&order=rlevel&grade=All&stars=All&search=
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>Dead thread on a friday night.
Fucking normies.
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Anyone know where this well is? I can't find it.
http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/20287/
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>>122238130
Huh? Link to pay2win please.
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>>122238494
far mideast side of the map
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>>122238643
Found it, thanks anon
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>>122237894
EVERYTHING'S GONNA BE ALRIGHT
PRISTINE MY LIFE
DON'T SAY ANYTHING
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Speaking of other up and coming MMOs, what's the deal on BnS and BDO?
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>buy 3 Multi Shot Gems
>it says you can equip it to shoes, but you can't
>okay.jpg
>put the other two on my bow
>skill only goes +1, and I have two gems on

Fuck this.

Could anybody ever put a monster gem on anything but weapon, after all?
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>>122239090
shitty generic "action" mmos that will fail as usual
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>>122238435
Maybe the majority of tosg posters were french?
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Finally time for R5, do I go pirate or jew? Anyone gone hoplite c3 before?
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Can someone who isn't a jew class tell me what they do for money? I feel like I've been strapped for cash this entire game and the arde dagger doesn't feel anywhere close to the amount of money I have right now.
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>>122239175
I solo the level 90 dungeon with my Sorcerer and sell Arde Daggers for about 1m each.
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>>122239303
I've been 35 times to that dungeon and never got a single dagger.
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>>122239362
Tough luck, 2 daggers in 10 runs. Works for me.
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>>122239303
Just like sell shit, I'm being serious here
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>>122239170
You can jew now but not when live comes.
There will eventually be a huge surplus of jew classes of all kinds and the only sure fire way to gain decent money will go back to a good DPS that can hunt rare equipment.
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Made an archer2/sapper yesterday, got it to 45, about to continue

How much pain am I in for?
Why does archer seem to do random fucking damage against bosses?

I ventilated necroventer and that other undead dude, but both times I've fought him, cyclops has taken ages. I don't get it.
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>>122239090
BnS is pretty damn great. Give it a try, might not be everyone's thing but if you like action MMOs, it's fantastic.
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>>122237161
Saw how easy as fuck to hack the game, lost motivation
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>>122239471
bow mastery
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>>122239492
I probably already missed the change to get into the CBT
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>>122239471
The min/max damage of bows. Use xbows if you want consistency
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>>122239471
shoulda gone c3 and get level 15 multi shot
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>>122239665
Try it on release. Game is mature as fuck after being top MMO in Korea for so long, it's not going to change much.
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>>122239492
Was Black desert online not supposed to be the superior one? With sandbox elements etc etc?
I had not heard any information regarding the two in a year or so, however I had assumed BnS hadn't done so well in korea, and was not very well received
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> someone summoned monsters in lvl 50 dungeon
Is this maplestory? I had a good chuckle
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>>122239471
If its a flier then 2H Bows melts the ever loving fuck out of the boss. Otherwise you have to use a Crossbow for consistency.
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>>122239471
no idea either, some boss, like throneweaver is weak as fuck and others are tough as hell, probably because some boss are actually "small" size
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>>122239170
I went Hoplite C3 before Doppel.
There's pretty much nothing new, your skills are simply more powerful.
It's completely worth it if you ask me though.
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>>122239785
>sandbox
Oh how excit-zzzzzzzzz
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>>122239785
BDO is the new one and has fantastic graphics, decent action, but they haven't put in much pve stuff yet.
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Whatafuck
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>>122239785
Black desert died in Korea its like 300th most played game in KR, while BnS is like 8th most played or something. LoL being first btw
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>>122234787
How do you even find that shit?
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>>122239901
Don't misunderstand I wont play a game simply because its popular or not, I didn't think BnS was so popular.
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>>122239649
But they're not flying, I can hit them with stake stockades, thus they shouldn't receive 2x damage from shots.

>>122239752
My endgoal is at 2 sapper and schwarze (hahahahaha I'm never gonna reach/escape prison in time) so I could go archer3 for them bursts.

>>122239804
It shouldn't matter, through the power of money I'm using like a real nice +5 bow so even though I'm still incurring a penalty, it's halved.
The difference in damage shouldn't be so much.
I mean I killed necroventer 2 multi shots, a stake stockade, and maybe 1-2 obliques.

While I'd do maybe 15-20% of cyclops' hp with a multishot
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>>122240000
all flying bosses still take dmg from skills that can't hit flying mobs.

also checked.
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>>122240000
different archer/ranger skills do +50% damage against certain armor types, necro was weak to w/e multishot has the boost
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So I installed Ollydbg and all it's plugins, analyzed the code.

How do I bypass verification for CE?
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>>122239170

There are a few of us who went Hoplite3. Depends what you want to end with at Rank 6, either Hoplite2->Corsair2 or Hoplite3->Doppel.

If you go Hoplite3, you only get Throwing Spear but higher levels of your current skills. If you go Corsair, you get the flag and Dust Devil which is a decent skill you can spam.

I think both options are pretty much equal in terms of power. The Corsair costume is so tempting though, but the Doppel one is nice too.
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>>122240131
It's equal until corsair c2, then your dmg just skyrockets and it's like you're playing as a literal god.
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Is it only me or is the fencers sept etoiles basically stabbing but shittier because you can only get 5 ranks in it, rank 10 stabbing has more dmg, less SP and better attributes?
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How the fuck do I dismount as cata?
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>>122240131
I kinda want fencer just for the costume but her skills look meh, sept etoiles looks like a gimped stabbing unless I'm missing something. Didn't we have a fencer in /tosg/?
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>>122240235
stabbing only has enhance attribute though
and fencer doesn't have 3 circles yet, unlike hoplite, compare it to c1 hoplite instead if you must, fencer is obviously meant to be a more-than-1 circle class
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>>122239785
BDO is as shallow as vindictus, but with open world and every enemy is a dumb punching bag like musou games.

So you can get an idea of why it failed.
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>>122240089

How many lines of code does this game has?
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>>122240385
stabbing has the evade attribute too 5% dodge and magic resist per point while stabbing
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>>122240000
All bosses are able to be hit by ground only stuff even if they're flying for balance reasons aka to not fuck over classes like sapper or pyro. The 2x damage on flying monsters from bows still applies.
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>>122232937
Please be SPR-dependant.

INTfag cleric lines get fucking everything.
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I don't know if I should go pelt>barb or pelt>hoplite
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>>122240524
oh right
i don't even have that levelled, i just use it when I'm not going to get hit, relying on rng to not have it cancelled isn't for me.
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>>122240457
I honestly have no idea, this stuff is way too complicated for me. I just need to know the steps.
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Just need to work on grinding another level 5 green gem for this baby.

>>122239170
>>122240235
>>122240385
I went with Doppel for R6 out of Hoplite C3. I don't regret it one bit because Cyclone is absolutely ridiculous. I mean ridiculous enough to match level 15 stabbing with 40% attribute bonus at just level 4.

Granted, it seems Cyclone always does slash damage, so the two aren't directly comparable.
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>>122240215
That's only because there is not much data on Doppel yet.
Deeds of Valor can be absolutely insane.
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>>122240089
What's CE?
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Arch Rod guys. worth for 350k?
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Where are the jewsluts when you need them.
I really need a gem roasted.
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Marionette is about to be up on Gabija
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>>122239090
BnS is really solid. I'll probably be playing that to get my pvp fix, and maybe ToS for grinding, if IMC shapes up.
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>>122240953
I think I paid 50k for mine, but I'm still using it at 190
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>>122240457
>lines of code
doesn't work like that anon~
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>>122241010
No one ever wants to kill her lol
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>>122241180
If you're going to tell me I'm wrong at least say why.
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>>122240943
Cheat Engine.
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>>122240978
I need more potions

Calling all silly hat alchemists
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>>122241149

Wow. No better rod at 170+? i'm almost 120 and i'm dying to change my rod...
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Marionette up on Gabija
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>>122241271
My man, the "verification" is a meme. You can't trick the server to give you monies.
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>>122241260
Not him, but reverse engineering doesn't give you the exact source code used by the devs.
Lines of code doesn't actually have any meaning anyway.
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So open chest just increases your key level, meaning you can unlock shit with lv2 keys right?
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>>122241260
1 line of code in a high level language is deconstructed into 1 or more opcodes, so its almost impossible to exactly know how many lines of code
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>>122240457
Why do non-devs latch onto LoC as some indication of some kind of software metric? Is it because they're too stupid to understand anything else?
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>>122241295
I want to bully Ayesha.
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So I should save my level 6 cards?

til what level?
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>>122241695
Nice projection, I just asked because I was wondering how big can games be.
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Someone wanna toss me the address to buy shit in the AH with cheat money? I don't know how to Ollydbg it up like back in old school maplestory. I used to do it in Maple but there were guides on that shit.
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>>122241763
It was just a question...
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>>122241759
till 200
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>>122241337
Particularly better and not from some boss, there's the Aston Rod, but the drop rate is atrocious and you can level perfectly well with a 120 rod, so there's no point unless you really want to spend more money upgrading another weapon and get lucky enough to drop it.

You can always farm miniverns and try getting the Dratt Rod, it's slightly better than the Arch one, but horrible drop rate.
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Level 144

I don't think I can go on
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I kinda want to go hoplie c3 then go into fencer, but I also really want a new costume like right now.
On what level do people usually reach rank 6?
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What reason would someone have taking peltasta c2/c3 instead of just c1? Say for dopple, or fencer? Should i go for bigger taunt? Or is the basic 5point one good enough>?
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>>122242005
shouldve saved those cards man
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How many lv7 cards should I have if I didn't use any?

Want to make sure I didn't skip any quest.
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>>122242115
Yeah use them at 144 so you can grind more later
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>>122242365
149 according to nuno

I ended with 125 but I used a few, so I probably missed some, feels weird knowing I missed some.
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Why is there no main quest after finishing up the Masoleum? Do I get it later on?
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>>122242051

176 or so.
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L1 L2 down arrow
Up to mount while being near and looking at your retarded squig
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>>122242051
Bad idea.
All Fencer skills require a rapier.
Hoplite's most important skills require a spear.
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Has nobody got any information regarding wands?

Are they a borkor and sorcerer only item?
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This is gimmicky as hell. I suppose it doesn't even work against bosses.
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So what do guys think about these, either hoplite c3 - fencer for maximum stab and pierce, maybe weapon switch to some spear for spear lunge or corsair c1 - fencer. That would give me stabbing, pierce, dust devil, meme flag, (open chest or whatev) plus Attaque Coquile and whatever on fencer?

Also we did have an fencer anon with benir right?

>>122242598
thanks

>>122242691
Pierce and stabbing dont require spears, you miss out on finestra and spear lunge is replaced with attaque coquille which does the same but with more damage and lower cd.

Debuff pierce resist, spam stab, pierce, sept etoiles, then cry in shame
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>>122242902
Benire's Holy Attack applies to all your damage just like Arde Dagger if you were wondering about that.
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>>122242883
>big head
hnggggggh I don't know why that makes me hard

is that the cheat engine shit? I don't want to get banned for some cosmetic change...
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Alright how come the NPCs in Aqueduct Bridge (Recommended lv89) won't say more than a block of text to me (lv84), even though all the quests they have are lv89. On top of that, there's the one guy with the repeatable lv89 quest who gave it to me 5 times but the other fags won't give me muh cards.
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>>122242902
Finestra is a core part of every Hoplite though.
Without those crits, all you'd have are decent skills with stupid long cooldowns.
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Dievdirby is bugged as hell what the fuck
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>>122242992
No I was wondering about his class build.
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what is best path to fencer?
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>>122243116
sword c2 / barb c3 / fencer
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Is STR or DEX better for Priest C2. Going for Pala -> Monk. don't have the golden falchion
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>>122243037
>is that the cheat engine shit
yee
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>>122243113
If you're talking about Jinsee he went Sword 2/Highlander3/Fencer.
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>>122242883
The knockback was annoying I turned it off
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Finally found a blue monster at 159. It gave me a nice 30%.

It can only go downhill from here
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>>122242902
Hoplite without Finestra isn't a good idea.
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has anyone leveled the "Large Zombie" attribute for Bokor? how much better are the large zombies anyways? because regular zombeis are total crap, I tried all the stat builds possible and they keep feeling incredibly useless.
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>>122242883
>>122243318
It's good for mob control situations, like quests with defend x target or to escape from large groups of enemies
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>>122243364
Don't worry, it will.
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>>122243546
Well, I don't want to chase after that mobs that got blown off
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>>122243446
Literally everyone is jelly of my carousel of death.

Whaddaya going on about?
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How exactly does the backstab attribute for rogue/corsair work. tosbase says it increases dagger dmg but you're never actually attacking with your sub weapon except when under the corsair buff right?

Does it actually just increase all your dmg as long as you have a dagger in your offhand and your stabbing at the enemies ass?
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>>122243364
Considering 30% is about half an hour of farming I'd say it's pretty good.
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>>122243083
pls respond
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>>122243630
does carousel work for you on bosses too?
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>>122243685
Man I sure am slow then, where can I get that xp plugin thingy again?
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If I save all my lvl 7 and 8 cards, when can I leave the demon prison?
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>>122243850
Did you seriously check all the NPCs? How many quests did you do there? Did you also collect all 4 parts of the Goddess statue to unlock a quest chain?
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>>122243882
https://bitbucket.org/Excrulon/tree-of-savior-experience-viewer/downloads
You should get between 700k-1.7m at prison d2.
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>>122244047
165
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lmao....just found out kneeling shot being bad was just a meme...never trusting u nerds again
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What cleric Class is the best to solo leveling and sustain?

i suck at parties because lag
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>>122244184
any other than div
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Are Galatunis weapons on this CBT2?

Where do you fight the bosses that drop them?
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>>122244135
Fuck that. I'm not about to grind nonstop for a few days as an Archer in a beta.
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>>122244151
people here also say that barbarians are shit at high levels
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>>122244047
just do the math yourself. if you have enough cards you can skip part of the semen demon grind

http://www.tosbase.com/game/exp-tables/base/
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>>122244303
You could be a PoS and just AFK kneel shot in a group
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>>122244303
If you have every card it's more like 163.
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>out-of-party buff sharing
Not only shitters steal my mobs, but they also steal my buffs, so they can steal my mobs even more.
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>>122244059
I found three of those things, do you need all four before those NPC give quests? I'll go probe around again.
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>>122244357
Or just find somewhere to do that while sleeping. Get's me like 60%
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>>122243095
>>122243379
But it's not like fencer would have access to it anyway. Just stacking all those pierce dmg skills on fencer sounds neat, but I'm too much of a pussy to try it. I think I'll go into corsair - so where are those bunny ears at? I'm gonna skill unlock chest to grab em then reskill.
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>>122243667
You can attack with the dagger by pressing C you know. And there are skills that hit with the dagger like Corsair's Dust Devil and Hexen Dropper, and Rogue's Backstab.
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>>122244467
Yes, just check the map again and a remark will appear, telling you to check the statue piece over there. If you have all four statue pieces, a quest chain will be initiated.
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>>122244552
I know but who in their right mind would attack with their secondary weapon when not talking about skills that chain your shit. It just seems to me like the scaling would be very iffy because you'll probably don't see anything in the tooltips of hexendropper etc
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>>122244520
reminder not to do this somewhere somebody would actually want to grind
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>>122244047
>>122244135
>>122244345
>>122244381
I left the prison at 165 with 123 lv7 cards and all lv8, but I still had to grind 185-186.
The prison isn't that bad.
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>>122244764
So is kneel shot like a living turret or what?
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>>122244151
>gives flat bonus damage and turns your DEX into +damage
>increases range
>one of the few attack speed boosts in the game
>+20% crit attribute
>stacks with kneeling shot crit buff
>does it for free

Not like there's anything else in the skill tree you need those points for. 15 in Multi Shot, 10 in Swift Step, 1 in Oblique Shot, 5 in Twin Arrows. 14 points left between Heavy shot (maybe for the slow, and that's a big maybe) full draw (eh) and free... damage?

Not a hard conclusion to reach.
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>>122243870

Sadly, it's shit for most bosses. Every once in a while, I get one who goes down in like 10 seconds because its size & that it's not an area-denial spamming cunt.
But sadly, I typically must do it the "proper" way.
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>>122244552
Just wanted to say that dagger pierce is really useful, sometimes even more useful than you main weapon. Just alternate Z and C to combo and check what inflicts more damage. Damage calculation is ridiculous with sub weapon, sometimes it does 90 dmg more than my main weapon which has like 184-210 PHY.ATK.
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this beta is bugged as hell. I've ascended to heaven three times today, couldn't actually get the shit I bought from the market (twice) and ther occasional ipf memery
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>>122244764
Afk grinders are the worst.
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>>122244879
It increases their auto attack range and when a monster gets closed they autolock it.

Basically a POS/Botter dream. They just macro Z and go away.
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>boy these Vikaras Cores really have shit drop rates
>I'll just check the market
>10,000 each and rapidly climbing
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Demon prison is arguably one of the best parts of the game.

The community in the prison whilst levelling is highly reminiscent of a "school" like setting, wherein you have people from a set range of levels all slowly levelling up to reach a certain goal.
The higher levelled players will graduate the prison and in turn you will meet new lower levelled players that join as you spend time inside.
Not to mention for the amount of time you will spend there, you will get to know and meet quite a lot of people due to being forced to party to make progress. This is due part to the lack of channels so essentially everyone must party and share a room.
This essentially means when you log off and log back on to continue grinding you will see these same people as yesterday and continue to party up with them and new players, fostering a small community for your time spent there.
Also creating 'cliques' aka 'those groups' that you will see, is interesting.
It also helps you get to know other classes from a party perspective and how useful they will be. Of course... this can be done in dungeons, but because of the huge amount of time you might spend with one party in one session in the prison (3-8 hours) it becomes easier to distinguish the bad players from the good, and you know what distinguishes good classes from the useless ones. It also helps you learn what classes synergize with others to an extent.
Also "sorcerer afkers and other prison frequenters" that you will get to know whilst there will make your life miserable when you realize that your party is now inefficient because the sorcerer afking with his summon in the back of the room is slowing down your exp gain. But you have no choice but to continue on due to the other rooms being full.

Truly a one of a kind experience.

I'm sure other players here can share their tales
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>>122244990
Is that summon .. THAT strong?
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>>122245039
I grinded maybe 1 level at prison and the rest at bee farm

I wouldn't mind prison if it wasn't such a shit looking area ontop of having shitty performance, 20 fps is not fun
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>>122244764
I'd probably die to the mobs there anyway. Putting a weight on the z key is the extent of my "botting" expertise.
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>>122232782
fuck me in the ass why don't you
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>>122244724
Pierce weak enemies when your main weapon is a slash type. Arde dagger's physical attack is shit, but that's why there's the meme dagger 2.0, Karacha Dagger. The other daggers probably aren't worth using, and Hoplites won't attack using the dagger except with Double Weapon buff.
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>>122245134
Well it melts lv188 monsters instantly, so I'd say yes.
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>>122245039
I honestly kind of like Demon Prison.
Everyone teaming together to help each other out.
The lag is really bad though, when I switch weapons I lock up for a couple seconds.
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>>122245039
Did you graduate?
I am lv137 right now and I fear my transferring to the Demon Prison. I mean, I am just a Squire.
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>>122244879
I've yet to test it, but I've heard that kneel shot isn't that good if you have a high ping. I'm from SA and can't see the difference between using kneel shot and attacking normally on Gabija
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>>122245241
he actually died there a few times on his own without me doing anything, so that sounds about right
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>>122245248
These fucking jews.
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What's the least shit build for Sapper senpaitachi? I have a dead 171 character with no cards and want to try something else.
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>>122245039
>sorcerer afkers
what is this really a thing? how can they keep their summon up if it's constantly draining their SP?
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>>122245248
how long do these actually last?
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>>122245458
not hard to automate potion usage
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>>122245541
are you blind?
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Can some corsair please tell me what mobs drop that shit in forest of prayer, I have that one weight potion quest so every fucking thing is marked there for me to kill - not that I mind it.

Also can someone please post a map/the treasure chest list? I want to get bunny ears with corsair burglar skill, thank you
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>>122245447
c2's Broom Trap is apparently bretty gud, I've yet to get it. I mostly use spiky stockades as c1, detonate is kinda meh but still a way to hit fliers in a small area, I have mixed feelings about Claymore.

What route did you go on this char, senpai?
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>>122245248
Why does Sacrament say 220 seconds
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I got a key, is this worth playing?
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>>122245353
Interestingly enough, I went back to shrooms yesterday and tried killing him once again.
He now uses potions; so he might have gotten a proper bot program instead of just putting a stone on his z key.
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>>122245648
No, he's a pardoner, how can I trust him?
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>>122245447
Why won't she wake up?
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So, I went Peltasta>Hoplite>Cataphract and I'm not sure what I want for rank 5. So far I'm loving Cata, Earth Wave is just so fun but I'd like to have some more levels in finestra and the other hop skills.

Any C2 Catas that'd like to tell me how it is?
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>>122245658
Why not press F5 and disable the quest? Wouldn't that work? Haven't tried it myself
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>>122245671
My 171 is a Thaumaturge, so I have no idea about how to build archer. Some archer who was high up on the ladder with me insisted on how insane Sapper is, so I wanted to try it. Dunno if I should be going Archer 2 or Ranger or what.
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>>122245307
I've graduated.

Squires are extremely useful. You will also meet other squires set up inside the prison, either in rooms or in front of the warp point.
Also once you start spending hours grinding, your equipment will break a countless amount of times, forcing each party member to periodically go back to town to repair, so having a squire that can quickly set up is useful. Quite literally, every 10 minutes someone will say "brb repair" or "brb need potions/pills/etc etc"
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>>122245658
fishermen, obviously.
you have to use it from your inventory
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>>122245839
>Earth Wave is just so fun
Does it have some hidden benefit? It just seems like Meme Stroke that does less damage and only hits once.
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>>122245760
Come back when everything you do isn't going to be wiped.
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How do I build autoattack archers?
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>>122245956
Earth wave hits pretty hard m8
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>>122245760
It's bugged as hell, balance is shit and you might not like it if you hate corridors and story related quests. I find it fun, though
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>>122245973
You definitely want decently high con since you're going to take a beating just standing there.
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>>122245956
it hits more than once if you level it, and they all count as one hit so you can overkill with it
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>>122245671
I had met a sapper during my enrolment in the prison, that used broom trap as one of his main skills.
Perhaps he was just skilled compared to the rest, however with him in our party, "full clearing" rooms was the fastest I'd experienced compared to every other class I had been with.
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>>122245937
Thanks!
Though I am really sad that Squires learn their base camps/refreshments in circle 2. With the beta coming to an end, not many will continue after reaching rank 6 so the higher maps will mostly stay empty
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>>122245956
It's pretty much a weaker Meme Stroke, but the area of effect is huge and it hits more than once.
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Holy shit dievdirby is fucking garbage. Half the time my statues get bugged, and they take a long ass time to make
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>>122245973
the problem is archer attack speed is 1/3 from swordman and clerics. Not mention its not aoe.
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>>122246168
it's cause broom trap is op as fuck at clearing large amounts of enemies

so basically it's only good at prison
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>>122245973
You don't.
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>>122245973
>autoattack archer
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>tfw i get bounce shot and spiral arrow from ranger c3

so much fucking damage
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>>122246331
If you have a good party that can bunch up mobs however, this should be the case in a dungeon environment as well.
However, I'd assuming the areas post prison would be hell, due to there being an average of 10 monsters a map, spaced roughly 5 minutes from each other.
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>>122245914
I'm archerc2-sapper, lvl 64. archer c2 is worth for the crit boost attribute it gives to swift step and multi shot lvl 10, but it feels underwhelming, really. Having to improvise oblique and multi shot as AoE was a pain, getting sapper alleviated that though. Damage from auto attacks isn't good unless you're hitting fliers after you get the attirbute for that (I don't see a huge difference from the one handed bow one, but I guess it'd be free damage if I had a meme dagger). Playing sapper has been fun so far and >>122246168
>>122246331 are probably right too so why not? Still don't know what to pick after sapper c2, though
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Which jew is the best jew, Pardoneer, Alchemist or Squire?
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>>122246524
it doesn't really do enough damage to clear dungeon mobs alone, though it is nice if you're doing big pulls.

if you have a linker it will do a lot of good for a sapper
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>>122246543
I'd go Rogue.
I'm Fletcher right now, and it's not very good.
If you can fight against cloth flying enemies, you will do a lot of damage. Otherwise you're kind of shit.

Also two-handed bows are probably the worst weapon type in the game, which Fletchers need in order to use their skills.
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How do you transfer items to your alts?
>>
DECIDE

http://strawpoll.me/6000440
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>>122246543
sapper c3, rogue is just a crit rate buff and fletcher is shit

>>122246719
rogue is probably worse honestly, you need c6 and the karacha set to do any good.
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>>122246705
Roll Pardoner and test it for us.
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>>122245973
Fuck IMC for not making Archer auto attack builds viable! I just want to be a Bow Jester again!
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>>122246862
Oh yeah, I forgot that you needed those weaps to make backstab godly.
Sapper C3 looks like it could be good anyway desu.
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Okay, I've found the treasure chest list again, for your viewing pleasure: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/kcbt3-icbt2-chests-locations-not-require-scout-shovel/80691

Can somebody help me ge to that bunny chest? Where the fuck is "Penitence Route of Cathedral Lv143"?
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>>122246884
It's called oblique shot level 1
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>>122246719
>>122246862

Sucks to hear that about Fletcher. Do you know if Reiter is even worth it? What about Scout?
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>>122245973
Archer3>ranger3
max kneeling shot, max steady aim, max STR

that's the hardest hitting single hitting auto attack possible

It's actually better to go 5str/3dex ratio and you would miss very little damage, but it wouldn't be the STRONGEST auto attacker archer, even while leveling max dex would be better, and then respec as you see fit near max level.
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>>122247019
I only hear god things about reiter.

which makes sense since all their skills seem to be multihitting skills, and everyone knows about this game and multihits.
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>>122245727
Where's the 'Like' option?
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>Try to arrange an Iron Bow transfer to my alt using the market
>In the period it takes for me to actually swap over
>Someone already bought it

Jesus christ
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>>122247180
That was silly anon. People sit there scanning the newly listed items.
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>>122247031
That is possibly one of the worst leveling builds I've ever heard of

>>122247094
Nice, I'll try it out if I get that far in the beta. Does archerc2-sapperc3-reiter sound good? it's that or maybe going archer c2-sapperc2-scout c2 for muh buffs
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>>122247242
I didn't know of any other method.
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>>122247180
HAHHAA bitch that's what you get for trying to turn ToS into your singleplayer MMORPG experience
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>>122247031
>max steady aim
waste of points desu
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>>122247309
A trustworthy person like myself
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>>122247303
>sapperc3-reiter
Reiter skills needs you to be mounted, if you're fine mounting/dismounting for every other skill. Sure I guess
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>>122247303
he asked for the hardest hitting auto atacker not for the best leveling build in the game, so that's what I gave him.

Feel free to prove me wrong with your better auto attacker build, but I guess you just like meddling where you have nothing constructive to say and just shit on other people's posts.
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>>122247180
You have to overprice items if you're going to do that, because of >>122247242
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Look who's up.
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>>122247451
You can't really make a build that has synergy with reiter.
once you hit reiter it may as well be it's own class and you can disregard everything else.
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>>122247309
Just open a buy-in shop, they stay there after you log out
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>>122245973
Live right next door to the server so you don't get auto-attack delay. This is probably the reason why people feel that archer's auto-attacks are weak.

https://youtu.be/6Sgp1Uh-wJk?t=112
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>>122247451
I can't lay traps and shoot shit from my ride at the same time? lame.
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>>122246504
Was the pain worth it
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>>122244884

Except that attack speed boosts are useless, it barely makes any difference, and the immobility, inability to use any other active while it's running, and poor response time on casting/exiting it makes it useless in a party or against a boss.

You could have gone 15 oblique to attack two enemies at once, attack faster because of cast speed/attack speed disparity, and do it with +446 damage on every hit.
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>>122247565
What critical chance does this player have?
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>>122247556
You can't buy equipment with buy-ins
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>>122247529
Won't Archer and Ranger skills be compatible tho?
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>>122247565
They really gotta fix this auto attack speed being reliant on latency shit
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>>122244884

this isn't ro attack speed scales like hit

like 0.01 +attack per second for each point in attack speed

a corsair gets to attack eight times as often with the same base attack speed
there's a reason why every archer build on korean goes archer 3 and the only instruction is '15 multishot'
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>>122247765
yes, ranger skills are shit though and archer is archer, it'll basically just be multishot you use
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>>122247565
Wait, Archers just need better ping?
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I notice sometime the kneeling shot really speeds my auto attacks up and sometimes it barely affects it. Guess it's just my ping changing.
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>Bought 65 Drake Horn for 3k each at the market
If only I didn't want the horn
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>>122247529
You can still use all the wugu poisons other than gu pot.
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>>122247879
That guy is doing at least twice the damage I see other archers 170+ do
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>>122247565
That just looks like he's weaving in crit shots
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>>122247309
List your equipments for an slightly overpriced value, then buy it back and accept losing 10% of that value.
That's what I do when no friend is online.

If someone buy your overpriced item, just accept it and buy another one later.
At least transferring silver amongst your characters is an easier task...
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>Try to open a buy in shop
>You can only buy recipes
>I don't have the Iron Bow recipe

This game
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Are parties working> I went into a lvl 90 dungeon and non of the monsters gave xp
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So 1-handed crossbow and meme dagger is the way to go for Sapper then?
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>>122248098
It's the way to go for any archer class, unless you need a 2H bow to use a skill, or are fighting something flying.
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>map boss is flying type
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>>122247853
The guy in here >>122247565
looks just fine with Barrage
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>>122247981
>Archer-c3ranger-c2 rouge

He's usingprobably using lvl 15 Steady Aim, which increaseas attack, but decreases attack rate

>Additional Damage: +34
>Attack Speed: -1%
>Duration: 40 seconds
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>>122247761
Yeah but you can sell it to the char that needs it?
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>>122247981
C2 Rogue actually does decent damage with the right gear, which he has.
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Where does Blasphemous Deathweaver spawn in the mines?
I'm having trouble finding it.
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>The most viable archer class is one that doesn't even use a ranged weapon
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>>122246504
Struggling Ranger C2 here, help me with stats pls
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How do you open that chest in the Legwyn Residence?
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>>122246250
its in the announcements that the bugs as of today is Dievdirbys are bugged indefinitely.
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>>122247950
Same here, it even seems slower sometimes
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When does archer stop being a pile of dicks to play?

63 sapper now and fuck, half my autos and obliques hit fireballs, caltrops, or other shit
my traps feel like shit, and basically everything that isn't multishot is terrible

Does Is it ever get better or should I just kill the char?
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>>122248508
Stand on the magic circle right on the hour, to get a jump buff.
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Somehow these don't look as good as I thought they would, officer helmet fits corsair pretty well though. I wish could combine them both or get a real pirate hat
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>>122248679
Sapper C2 becomes a lot better.
Once you hit your tier 5 class, you'll start to do more damage than priests.
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>>122248595
Do these gooks even know how to code?
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>>122248679
Eh, my main source of damage have been the spiky blockades so far, I believe they've been doing more damge to bosses than simply using lvl 10 multi shot
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>>122248595
Did they really say that?

>>122248818
Obviously not. Have you been playing?
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What's with the op not having the doc for the field boss timers anymore?
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>>122248183
note how it does no damage
lvl 15 multishot would do more
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>>122248758
Are we talking "playing this does not cause me physical pain" better or "the class is actually decent and kind of fun"

Because right now it just seems to be
walk into a room, oblique at something cause fuck if archer aiming isn't the worst thing ever, and hope that things eventually die, if they're grouped up and aggro'd, stakes, if they're not aggro'd then multi.

I feel like a shittier anything else
except tank, fuck if those stakes are not the best pullers in the game
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>>122248979
people stopped giving a fuck and server resets fuck em up
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>>122249012
Broom trap is pretty fun, it gets old after awhile though because it has a fucking minute long CD.
I don't know if I would go as far as to say it's decent though. If broom trap is running, you're decent, if it isn't, you're shit.
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>>122248979
i just used the template in the pastebin since noboody else made the thread

the link is psted like 3 posts into the thread btw
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Oy Vey sempai
how can i into Pardoner?
SPR, INT
Cleric>Priest2/Diev>Paladin>Pardoner
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Iron Bow anon from earlier here, I manged to work it out somehow. Turns out I had a spare level 120 recipe that needed selling.

And to think all of this could be avoided if I had simply just kept the recipe.
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>>122248753
Looks just like my character. Sometimes I use the carnival mask.
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Linkers are a meme
>shared buffs get cancelled because they fill up all the slots
>can't use physical link in dungeons because everyone will just die
>lifeline can't be up 100% and relies on everyone having different builds in Tree of DexBuilds, and even if they did have different builds it wouldn't matter to the other classes much that anyway(why would a wiz want a swordie's STR?)
Hangman and penalty are basically the only good skills so linker is actually only useful every 30 seconds.

>mfw people save party slots up for linkers
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Does Sadhu OOB scale off of magic damage or physical damage?
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>>122249285

Almost every Corsair I see is using the bunny ears.
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>>122249285
Where'd you get that mask?

>>122249360
>look i posted it again!
What are you even referring to with 30 seconds anyway? Joint is 15s and knot is even shorter.
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>>122249539
Mask is from the party missions, like a lot of other hats.
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>>122249493
Because it's from a lvl 4 chest and you dont get a lvl 4 key until very late. By that time you've gotten bored of your old hat and want to try something new. That's how it was with me anyway.
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>>122249118
I think I'm gonna call it quits on this char.

Archer is just too unfun in its current state for me to try and get to its higher circles.

They really need to fix archer, badly.
It's not just the skills, but how shooting shit even works

WHY AM I SHOOTING MY ALLY'S FIREBALL
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>>122249285
You are gin right? What would recommend skilling first? I'm guessing 1 point in flag then max dust devil right? Also how awful are the less talked about skills like hook?
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Cryo 2 is suffering, where do I level up if im lvl 66? soloing bosses at this point takes ages
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>Cloaking: Physical Damage 1 Cloaking Active
Description Effect
>Deals additional damage equal to 50% physical attack to the next used attacking skill during [Cloaking].

Can someone explain that to me? will the cloak end after I use an attack or offensive skill or will it continue for as long as the duration goes?
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>>122249360
No dear Illya linker poster. It is you who is the meme.
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My memes grow stronger
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>>122236817
>>122236602
>>122236454
Im an expert at translating broken english into readable text:

Inflicts an extra 50% damage based on your physical damage to flying enemies. They are also knocked out of the air.
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>>122249845
Get that steady aim attribute up
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>>122249845
Tell me your secrets, of less painful leveling
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>>122249660
No, I'm some other hoplite corsair. But yeah thats how I'm doing the skills so far. I'm one shotting a good number of mobs with dust devil so its not too bad. The rope skills seem bad and might be for pvp or something. They can only damage one target at a time. Not going to bother with them and will just save points for Double Weapon and Hexen Dropper.
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>>122249493
>>122249638
You can grab this shit as soon as you hit corsair, just get 2 class levels and open that chest with a lv2 key - then go respec
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someone make a fucking better fansite than tosbase

>doesn't even have filtering by stats in the item database
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>>122249460
pls respond
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>135
>have to wait for the dungeon reset to level

I know I'm not hitting R6 any sooner cause this is just terrible especially everybody is around 130~150 no so I got nowhere to actually grind.
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Anyone wanna hit the lv130 dungeon before reset? I'm gonna pop my last lv6 cards to get there
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>>122249927
Way ahead
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>>122250125
magical
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>>122249004
You can't Sneak Hit with Multi Shot.
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what drops honeymeli stingers
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>>122250229
yes, and?
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>>122249004
>barrage does no damage

It did 5x 3500 damage. Looks fine for a basic skill.
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>>122250364
15 multishot would do 17x 3500, twice.

lol
what matters is number of hits for skills, base dmg is irrelevant
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>>122249956
Honestly, it's not THAT bad once you hit level 90+. You want SPR and Oblique Shot initially, you'll be spammin that skill all the way to C6. Once you become a ranger, max Barrage as soon as possible and you can start mobbing. Against bosses, use Multishot and pointblank Barrage. The most important thing you NEED as a ranger/archer is your attributes, they make all the difference in the world. Get the Swift Step +25% critical one, Steady Aim lv 50, Oblique Shot lv 40+, etc. The meme dagger is also a nice help with the Def Penetrate attribute + Crossbow
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>>122249202
Cleric>Cleric2>Priest>Paladin or Priest2>Pardoner

If you plan to get Simony, Divine Might makes things easier
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>>122250467
>Get the Swift Step +25% critical one,
I fucked up and went ArcherC1 > Ranger C2. Do you just max oblique
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>>122247565
>>122248237
ranger c3 but no steady aim

>>122247734
>>122248003
His auto-attack actually Critical-shot ranger's skill.
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>>122247529
Schwarze Reiter can use all of Ranger C3's skills too, so you get Spiral Arrow, Bounce Shot, and Barrage, at least.

Or you could build Archer C3 and get 15 multishot and the crit buff.
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What the fuck, is my jolly roger bugged? I throw it down and kill mobs inside the radius but no combo counter appears?
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>Yesterday Obsidian were worth 800k+
>They all "disappeared" from the market, like many items
>Today they are listed as low as 250k
These fucking cheaters don't even try to hide it. The sad thing is that this game will probably launch with these things still in the game
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>>122249662
pls respond
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How do party quest rewards work?
Do all quests have a chance of giving XP cards?
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>>122250704
Archer C3 kind of waste actually. You only need C2 for critbuff and 15 multishot is very situational since the cast time and the animation time is kinda long.
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>>122250751
make a party you doof
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>>122250751
You have to be in a party and be the party leader. Just make one for yourself.
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>>122250760
If there are shenanigans like this going on then IMC definitely knows unless they are completely incompetent.

Be glad it's happening in a beta that'll be wiped and not release.
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>>122250760
I looked earlier and thought 250k was way too expensive. They need to relist them again lower.
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>>122250626
You can still get attributes from previous classes. Oblique Shot attribute is nice, but just go for it if you have no better use of your money. You want to max Steady Aim, Ignore Defense and Anti-air first
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>>122250867
>>122250847
Oh, thanks
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>unbalanced as fuck classes
>random lagg spikes
>grinding is a struggle
>almost no reward when you level up except for advancements

Why can't I stop playin it lads?
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>>122250842
There's not much else to do on bosses once your skills are on cooldown except spam Obliques or Criticals anyway, so why not, though.

Multishot 3 is definitely a good skill since it multi-hits and we all know about multi-hits in this game. It's just painful to level Archer C3.
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>>122250842
Do people who say this not get the half speed multishot attribute?
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>>122250950
>grinding is a struggle

get gud
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>>122250950
Because it's fun.
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the only thing good about this game is the soundtrack

i still play the fuck out of it though
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>>122250979
The charge time isn't that bad, but that + you just sitting there firing arrows at the boss can be a problem. Not to mention you're lelveling to c3 archer
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>>122250760
>>122250870
i saw a semi-half working bot, the kneeling shot archer bot only attack when there's target lock. This is not the usual stuck coin to Z button technique.
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>tfw I can't decide if I should go Hoplite2 for 100% Finestra and stronger Stabbing or go Full Cataphract for Rush.

Help me
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>>122251075
Not at all senpai, Symphonix tracks are the worst thing in the game
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>>122250957
You can't even do Archer > Ranger > Ranger > Archer > Archer to at least reduce the pain a little with the more fun ranger skills, because the best Ranger stuff is at Ranger 3.

Time Bomb Arrow a shit in PVE. Making Archer C3 is suffering.
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>>122250291
You dumb.
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>>122250957
charging 15 multishot maybe great against bosses and in dungeon since you are at the back, for everyday grinding its not. It can get interrupted and the targets always on the move.
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>>122251164
Try 100% Finestra. It is fucking amazing.

However since you already went Cataphract you kinda want C3 Cataphract...
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>>122250929
But just how much SPR is just enough SPR? It just seems ridiculous dumping everything into it
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>>122251269
Aim where they're going

Haven't you ever played space invaders?
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>No Elven Ears
>No Romantic Flower
>Only a few good top hats
Come on IMC, you are not even trying
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Do you believe in magic?
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>>122251164

Well, Cataphract synergizes well with hoplite skills but you might find it lackluster since the skils that you can do are more or less shit. (Earth wave is half-assed cartar stroke. Impaler is useless. Steed charge is not a charge at all but more of a trot with shit damage and trot is just your dash with a cooldown) but 2handed spears are the few weapons that scale well in terms of damage. Galin Trident in particular is good but that's just me. Its definitely up to you.

My route btw
Sword > High > Hoplite > Cata > Hoplite C2 > Doppel
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>there are people in this thread who have gone the entire beta without sharing a kiss with someone
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>>122250760
Do you mind explaining what's happening here?
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>>122251164

Just skip Cataphract until they buff it and it is actually worth picking it.
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>>122251589
I just haven't found the right person
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>>122251589
Yep, but it's okay when you have snow to roll
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>>122251638
Yes skip it and wait for the real two hand spear class, Dragoon.
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2 dps for lv130 dungeon right after reset, anyone wanna tag along?
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>>122251269
Multishot is generally bad grinding anyway. I wouldn't use it all that much.
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>>122250760
Just checked the market

>Varv skins gone
>Drake horns hone
>Zircons gone
>There were pleny literally 5 minutes ago
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>>122251318
I did full spr from like 50-70. It was ok but bosses took some time cause of weak ass autos. Im all str now, spr dmg not a problem at 80 ish
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>>122251902
Someone posted how to do a few market glitches on reddit earlier today.
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>>122251924
>spr dmg
The what now?
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Rods are 1handed, right?
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Lots of archer discussion going on, let me toss in mine:

I'm Archer 3, Wugushi 1, Fletcher 1, soon to be Fletcher 2.

Almost sure I won't keep this build for OBT because:

>2handed bow is suffering
>most rank 6 and on classes use subweapons like pistol, canon
>meme dagger
>+100% damage against flying will be useless at PvP except for the 1% of the population, Falconers, that will be flying very occasionally because their cooldown is like a minute
>on the other hand, crossbow's def penetration sounds amazing
>Wugushi 1 seems a waste, i'll be doing the exact same poison damage from level 80 until 600, unless I advance ranks or sacrifice physical damage to put on poison damage things
>I wouldn't like to go Archer 3, Wugushi 1, Fletcher 3, Wugushi 3. Nine ranks for something that doesn't even sound THAT good
>so Wugushi + Fletcher is discarded

I'm decided on Archer 3, but what I do for Rank 4 is still a mystery. Ranger for Steady Aim with 100 attributes? Both Archer 3 and Fletcher 2 have multihit skills, meaning I could abuse it. Scout for utility? Hunter, hopefully fixed, for more utility, armor reducing and true sight?
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>>122252058
Yes
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>random faggot gets buttmad because I didn't invite him to my party of friends while grinding levels
>it has been almost a week and he's still mad
>makes sure to post how mad he is in all chat everytime we cross paths, even when he's in a group himself
How can you be mad for this long? High level areas don't have more than 1 channel so he's only being mad at himself for what happened.
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>>122252036
my slash key is brokem
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>>122252062
Also maybe I could just go the basic Rogue C2 build if I want crossbow so badly...
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>tfw the demon prison party you join is so bad you're better off solo
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>>122252131
Maybe you were rude about it
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>>122251837
Sorry for the noob question but where exactly is the 130 dungeon?
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>>122251630
The speculation is that it is some exploit that allows you to buy items from the market without having the right amount of silver
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>>122252214
How expensive are meme daggers 2.0 and the set?
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>>122251973
Got a link?
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>>122252131
you seem like a faggot tbqh

partying with people benefits everyone involved
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>>122251671
>the right person
But what if you end up falling in love?
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>>122252289
Around 2m each recipe.
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>archer cant jump attack

No wonder everyone hates this class.
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>>122250607
ty sempai
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>>122252346
well that's not why everyone hates it
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>>122244990
>>122245134
All the mobs that spawn in that little area have about 2-3k HP so even though the skeles are flimsy as shit the mobs die before they can do too much damage.
Also I wish there were more people grinding at higher levels, I can't effectively afk grind with my summons because if I set up in one area they murder everything and then the mobs respawn at a rate of 1 mob every few minutes unless someone actually wanders through the zone killing shit.

What was really amazing was afk grinding in demon prison with temple shooter and dominating half a room. Too bad theres nowhere else in the game with the mob density to make that practical.
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>>122251973
Wait, please post the information here. Genuinely curious as to what's going on.
There's no point being in the dark about glitches and exploits that could ruin your experience if people are purchasing your items without you actually receiving money for them
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>>122252346
Yeah, well, why don't you try drawing, sighting, and releasing while jumping and get back to us about how well that goes.
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>>122252160
Alright, thanks. I'll try that SPR build, it just seems silly tho
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>>122251790
I love how they put that pack of mobs that you would never see like that in the game there

It would be more like 2 mobs in that area with a few more scattered throughout
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>>122252131
I have someone like that in Demon Prison. Our party was full and he was using Chapparition while I was using Templeshooter. He's been bitter about not being allowed to join the party and Templeshooter killing everything it wants to ever since and either insults me or tries his hardest to go wherever I am with a party and compete for mobs.
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>>122252495
Pretty sure it is.

>>122252519
I'm the fuckin chosen one m8. I've built over 100 farm fences and picked an entire field of spiky flowers that poked my hands and really hurt. I can do anything.
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>>122252327
Yeah, not making a rouge in this beta at least
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>>122252519
why don't you try jumping over a target that's taller than you while swinging a 2handed sword at it
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>>122252231
I only said "No".

>>122252323
We were already camping an area where we couldn't kill any faster so another party member would've just been less exp for all of us, random guy included. There was also another party roaming around looking for people and they had the rest of the area to themselves.
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Is the 130 dungeon worth it at 148?
I thought the mobs were closer to 135 or something, so the exp gap wouldn't be too bad.
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>>122252160
Wait, do I just max Oblique shot itself too? I have been leveling the attributes
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Dungeons just reset, who wants in on 130 dungeon runs on Laima?
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>>122252347
Also be careful with certain Pardoner attributes that aren't working at all, like Donation and I'm not sure about the Oblation one
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>>122252716
He should have just gone around tagging all the mobs there. That's what I do.
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How many levels an hour should I be getting at level 108 by grinding mobs?
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who's the best class for duels and why it's psychokino?
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>>122252571
Just use the scroll if you dont like it
>>122252724
I have it at lv 5
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>finally able to play
>make a wizard because one hair reminded me of my RO High Wizard
>pretty good skills I guess, earthquake blasting everything to smithereens
>reach level 40~, now cryo
>having a hard time, party with a priest
>he takes half of the boss health with healing alone
>heals self to full, safety wall melee him forever

I've been investing INT since first level and I can't deal as much damage as him, take as much damage as him or provide as much utility as him. CC is nice as long as the enemy are vulnerable to it, but aside from that I feel like I'm wasting my time if support classes can simply outshine a glass cannon build in fucking damage.
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>>122253357
>cryo

reroll pyro
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>save cards
>realize after I finally start burning them that they're not going to get me anywhere near where I thought they were
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>>122253479
Why are you still saving cards?
>s-skip the 160 grind!
There's not enough time left in the beta to make it there anon
>>
Brbarian qq thread again.

https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/barbarian-too-strong/116924
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>>122253587
I fell for the meme and I'm sorry!
>>
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/142111/

Where can you obtain this item from?
Its level 1, so perhaps a level 1-15 boss I'm assuming, but are there any in the first place?
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>>122253587
>not enough time left

there's more than enough time left
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>>122253663

lol, this shit has a chance to proc on meteor?
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>>122252263
Forest of prayer, we only need a heal for full party. Anyone wanna run lv130dg on gaba?
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>>122253587
You don't skip the 160 grind. You skip the grind to 175 becasue the 170+ zones are all so fucking terrible. There are a total of 5 mobs in each zone or something stupid and you blow through the quests in 30 minutes. The only place to reliably grind mobs is in second demon prison, and you start getting exp penalty at some point because they're too low level.

Seriously, take it from someone who abandoned a 170 character. It takes something like 4 hours to go 171 to 172 in there, and it only gets worse all the way up to 175 where the next dungeon is. Saving cards is 100% warranted due to how poorly designed the 160+ content is.
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Why are the low level zones packed full of mobs yet the high level zones you actually have to grind in are empty
>>
>be 165
>finishing quests
>Namu Temple Ruins
>Lizardman Magician fuck me hard in the ass. 1k+ homing missles
>need to evade them. questing slow. sometimes die
>shiny Lizard Mage
>"meeh another drop mob"
>kill it
>was xp mob
>get 40%
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once you open the chest in this quest, nothing else is supposed to happen?

http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/20176/

I opened the chest, didn't get shit, tried opening it several times, but nothing more would happen, so I left the zone, now I can't get back in, and I feel like there was supposed to be a follow up, or maybe an actual reward?
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Tachikawa you're 130! that's amazing.
what did you do? I'm chugging level 6 exp cards like no tomorrow. I'm practically done with Forest of Prayer quests, and I'm 125.
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>>122253950
>next story mission sends me to rukas plateau
>according to the world Map, I have to pass through a lvl 120 map
>I'm lvl 64

The fuck?
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>>122254061
Better yet, why do the deserted low level zones have 20 channels but the packed high level zones have only 1?
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>>122254180
Not him but did you skip the 90 dungeon? you should be running those whenever they're up till like 113 with questing/grinding inbetween
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>>122254303
no i didn't. i did exactly that.
maybe I missed a map or two.
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>>122254236
They expected everyone but the most autistic to quit before they hit the mid level ranges.
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How do you link your party into shout?
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>>122254351
My experience was hit 113 > finish all quests > pop all cards > hello instant 130
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How's the 130 dungeon at around lvl 149-150?
>>
Look how shout has died out.

People have quit, even before the beta ended.

This is how bad the balance / issues are right now.

Speaking of which, buying Arde Dagger because I want to glitch through this garbage as quick as possible too.
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>>122254409
Party menu -> Insert Party Invite Tag
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Been off for a week. Did they fix stuff like market and shit?
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>>122254518
Every 5 levels you are above the mobs you lose 5% exp, and 5% more per level after that. So not very good.
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>>122254683
Its been on and off.
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>>122254747
Thanks anon, it seems I didn't lose anything of value then. Time to keep pushing college. See yal ater, maybe on OBT.
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>>122254225
Didn't mean to quote
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Am I cute?
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>>122254551
ooh thanks
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>>122254916
Do you want to get married?
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>>122253663
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/equipment/?item_name=smith&order=name&grade=All&stars=All&search=

It would seem there are an entire catalogue of weapons under the smith prefix..
Now if only someone had any idea on where you could obtain them
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>>122255073
Are you a cute boy that needs defending?
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is there a good list of world bosses, drops and locations?

don't link me the shitty reddit thread because it is missing 5 bosses
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>>122254714
Isn't it 10 levels above?
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>>122253357

Do you only have cryo?

If you go cryo->psycho the ice wall combo will let you one-shot any non-dungeon boss in the game.
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Do people usually join parties for world bosses?
I'm surprised how everyone is even able to find the bosses in time, given how fast they die and how multiple bosses are killed almost at the same time.
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>>122254916
>>122255305
YES
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>>122252062
I'm Archer C1 and Ranger C3.

About Wugushi and Fletcher, 50% people says it is great and other 50% say its bad. Now i am really confuse on what to pick during release.

Ranger Barrage is multihit and also C3 Spiral Arrow. I agree with you that 1H + meme offhand is the meta now.

My Archer on release would have atleast Archer C2 for the critbuff, is C3 really necessary?

Oh yeah, i think Scout C1 is a must for the invisible skill. the skill that makes Archer special in pvp.
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Anyone have videos of level 200 elementalists? I want to see the sort of damage they're capable of compared to these Corsair/Doppel/Rogue memes.
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>>122255386
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0
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>>122255554
I'm into cute girls too.
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>>122255771
Is deathweaver usually hard to find? I can never seem to come across that boss.
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>>122254494
what maps do you remember doing before 130?
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>>122255867
I've never seen it or chapparition
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You guys weren't kidding about these 160-170 areas having a handful of monsters.

This is retarded
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>>122255972
Hmm thinking about it now it wasn't quite instant, I popped some cards so I could do altar way and all of mage tower but I only popped enough to hit the minimum quest level so it was probably more like 113 > quest > pop some cards for Mage Tower 5 and Pilgrim Path > pop some more for Altar way THEN pop my way from 117 to 130
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>>122256047
I had spotted a deathweaver club on the auction house a few days ago for 30k, In hindsight I regret not purchasing it. and giving it a just due +10 upgrade.
Supposedly the boss can both spawn on the third and second floor, but since most players are 50+ nobody mentions anything in shout.
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>>122256342
did you even reach Forest of Prayer? I don't think that many cards can get you to 130. unless i really did miss some quests
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im a pyro wat do next
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>>122254127

It just doesn't do anything yet.
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>>122256485
reroll into wizard 3
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>>122256485

Now you need to get 2 circles in linker.
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>>122256419
I didn't need to do Forest of Prayer to hit 130 no
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I did it guise
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>>122256676
Looking slick senpai. See if you can solo an awakening dungon now.
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>>122256676

>178

You fucked up your lift?

If you didn't clear the 186 hump all in one go from cards, you'll never clear it since there's nothing to grind on. :^)
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>>122255824
B-But I'm a boy >.<
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>>122256676
Sell me sp potions
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>>122256773
tfw grinded on nothing all the way over the 186 hump
If I could go back in time I would grind demon prison til 175 instead of blowing my cards at 160.
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For people having trouble with the market, NEVER put the seller's name to private, NEVER close the market tab as soon as you posted the items. CHECK your items posted in the market before closing the market
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What did you guys craft for 100 craft achievement?
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>>122256485
Go pyro 2 for fireball levels and then do whatever you want.
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>>122256921
I haven't had any issue with private
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>game devs acutally thinking that 0.0#% drops are a good idea
>it's not just one or two with these rates
>tfw you already can't wait for private servers with exp rate and drop rate increases

why
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>>122257215
There are no 0.0x% drop rates in the game.

You perhaps have some misinformation?
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>>122257127
complete opposite from me everything i put on private went missing.
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>>122257290
what do you believe is the drop rate for monster gems?
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>>122257290

tanu leaf
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>>122257478
>>122257460
These items don't have a % based drop rate, they're based on DPK
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I'm stuck on 85 without quests or cards, am I really supposed to kill 500+ monsters to level up (and then probably 1000+ next level) or am I missing something very obvious?
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>>122257460
>kill 1100 something of an enemy
>several white and a few gold
>no monster gem

Are these thecards of RO?
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>>122257804
86 is the exp reset. So you just kill 500 to level then you kill like 20 to level then get to 90 and run the dungeon till you're like 100.
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Has anyone ever found a Tanu leaf yet?
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>>122257603
>DPK
What?
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>>122257958
Oh thank god this isn't forever, I was very confused by seeing people with 150+ characters
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>>122257804
Look at the exp curve that gets linked 5 times per thread
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>>122254520
This gen is dead as fuck too. This game is going to die 1 month after release at the latest.

Really sucks, this game has so much fucking potential and could actually be fun and different but these devs are oblivious to video game/fun/mmo design or are just fucking retarded.
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>>122257804
HAHA IN RO 500 MONSTERS FOR A LEVEL IS FUCKING EASY

-tosforum babby
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>>122258225
Honestly I'm fine with grinding and 500 monsters for a level sounds like nothing to me.
The reason grinding in this game is shit is because the zones and the mob density are both fucking awful.
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>>122258224
>game needs to be linear
>game needs to be soloable to cap
Ok guys our MMO meets the decade long standard time to add random shit then release it!
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>>122257804
if you think 500 for a level is a lot, you probably won't like this game on release
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>>122258003
I left out the explanation in the original post, even knowing someone would inevitably ask this question.

What a ruse master I am

DKP is drops per kill, meaning each player character has a set amount of monsters they need to kill if they wish to see the item drop. It is not a random % chance.
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>>122258476
>kill 30 enemies on one of my characters and get a gem drop
>kill 1000 of it on another and get no gem drop

If only that was the case. If only. Killing 100 of a guy for a guaranteed drop would be better than this horseshit.
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>pelt>highlander
>knocking away all the enemies as soon as you gather them up

dont do this
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>>122258596
there's an attribute that stops the knock back but even then yea pelt highlander is a goofy combo
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>>122258428
I can barely find 500 monsters on some maps

Are they going to reduce exp rates on release?
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>>122258579
The number of kills differs for each character, but I'd imagine it has a ceiling limit. But it is confirmed in the games files that it works this way. I believe once you kill an enemy for the first time and register it in your journal it assigns a random amount you need to kill to receive the drops for that character.

I believe its to prevent true random drops, whereas someone farming an item might never receive it, if they were farm a specific item 20,000 times.
Don't misunderstand, the number for rarer items might be quite high, but you will always receive the item in the end.
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>>122258895
source?
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>>122258734
Nobody knows
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>>122258123
anyone had the longer chart that have till level 200?
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>>122258895
once you receive the item the counter is reset to another random value?
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>>122259018
http://www.tosbase.com/game/exp-tables/base/
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>>122259029
Perhaps, that would make sense considering characters that initially receive x item it on their 50th kill would be able to continuously farm for x if it weren't the case
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>>122259018
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>>122258895
How about say, Arde Dagger?

Some people open the cube they got twice while other got none.

i ran 15 times still no dagger
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>>122259256
If you're on Laima I will sell you one for well below market price. A mere 500k
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>>122259236
>>122259191
neat, thanks.
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>>122259256
For cube drops, I cannot say. I would say its not the case however, considering most people receive the drop after a low amount of kills

The DPK is is for items in comparison that you might kill 500-10,000(?) monsters for. An example is Dratt items
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>>122259256
>15
30 here and no dagger, about to go for 5 more in a few mins assuming there's people to run it with.
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>>122259256
>Finally break down and buy a dagger from the market
>The next day during huge lag spikes I notice another dagger in my inventory
>Sell the one I bought for more than I payed for it

I have no idea what happened. I hadn't even done another run since I bought the dagger.
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>>122259728
idk but i had something similar happen where i had leveled a yellow gm up a ton and then one day i noticed it was just fucking gone for no fucking reason, fix your shit imc
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>>122259728
I just retrieved some items from the market (because someone undercut me) and was able to receive them twice

Now I can undercut for a profit, thanks imc
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That's it.
I'm already tired of what little grind I've already done. I'm only 141 but I'm using all the cards I have saved up. When I hit the wall, if there's any time left in the beta, I'll just create a new character.
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>>122256676
How did you class up? You go pyro>linker or Pyro>pyro>linker?
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>>122260095
Persevere. Demon Prison can be fun with friends
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Can someone post a build for a good swordman/wizard build?
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>>122260256
Too late.
Now I'm 153 and I'm going questing.
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Can non-cataphract skills be used while mounted?

If not, then what classes are even useful for Cataphract?
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>>122258895

I've notice the monster kill rank resets randomly so I doubt it's in effect, but pseudo random drop would be nice.
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What is the Lvl 160 Instance? People just recently started talking about it.
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>>122260698
>only gained 11 levels
youre probably missing a lot of cards anyway
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>>122260723

Only a few exceptions(Cartar stroke, charged spells) Hoplite skills synergize will with Cataphract. Stabbing + Trident can melt bosses easily.
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>>122260760
I would imagine quite a few. If only because I was too low a level to do quests in a lot of areas.
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Is Meteor worth maxing out? Cast time increases pretty steeply for only +240 per level.
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>market eats my 900k item
>it's the only item I ever lost to the market

Something is going on
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What if we suddenly transition into open beta and there is no wipe?

What would your reaction be?
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I wish I could turn off the flashing effects so that I can see my cast target.
I wish that I could choose what skill level I could use so that I can save some SP
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>>122259236
>184 1/2
>No quests
>XP resets once I hit 186
Almost there boys.
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Wiz > Pyro > Kino > Thaum here

How hard did I fuck up my build, and kino c2 or thaum c2 for next advancement?
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>>122260920
>open beta
>not release
who cares
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>>122260969
once you hit 186 thats basically it, youre done playing the beta
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>>122260895
It's definitely suspicious that only high value items have gone "missing". My sold items in the range of 1k-50k have been successfully paid for while my 200k+ items go missing.
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Can I beg for a key or is it asking too much?, thanks in advance.
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>>122260986
>How hard did I fuck up my build
you tell me, this is closed beta after all
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>tfw demon prisoned from 143 to 149 today
I don't know how much more I can take.
I love the place, but holy shit my sanity.

I didn't even play that much, but it's so hard to grind in the same spot for that long.
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>>122261094
Anecdotal evidence, however the only items from my market listings that went missing were the 1 million + items
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Should I upgrade to a level 75 staff or just keep using my Ludas staff if I'm a pyro?
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>>122261169
Did you stay in one single room?
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>>122261249
Nah, I grouped with a kiritosair and a healer and we would clear the alleys and bottom area if spawning slowed down in our room.
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>>122261094
Most of the forum reports seem to support this.
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>>122261185

I would keep the lutas until i had money for 75 ROD + Arde Dagger.
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>>122261169
I agree. I love the place a lot but you don't easily see your exp bar move. Like the 140s especially feel awful because you're getting a penalty due to the mob levels. I'm only just now coming up to 150 after having done my two dungeon runs for the day, but it's something you need to do alongside something else.
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Give me your least shit archer build, /tosg/
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>>122261435
Did the 130 dungeon actually give decent exp at 150?
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>>122261435
There's no penalty for being below
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Has the server been lagging fucking everywhere for the past few hours?

Shit has been horrid no matter where I am or what I do
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>>122261151
I'm biased, this is fun as fuck and my spells are still effective thanks to the Thaum buffs.

Pretty sure Linkers still have it better, though.
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anyone want to play Corsair and fencer combo with me SAO themed? ERP included.
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>>122261680
_no
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>>122261630
Thaum seems pretty based, especially with pyro

How is pyro/kino?

I'm about to reach pyro/linker and honestly pyro is one of the more fun r2 classes in the game, it's got fun gimmicks that are actually very effective.
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>>122261723
You can be Asuna if you want.
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>>122261680
can we just skip to the ERP? :3
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>>122261756
I like it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8H1f_qbChU
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>>122261475
Archer c2 ranger c3 schwarze reiter
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fuck off erp shits (ironic erpers included)
don't ruin another general
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>>122261834
agreed
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>>122261802
Why does this boss have a retarded amount of HP?
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>>122261770
Who? I'm not interested in your homosexual antics you fruit.
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>>122261834
:3
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>>122261951
>falling for the "being straight" meme

wew
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>>122261951
It's not gay if someone assumes the female role, idiot
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>>122262116
Cancer.
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>>122261756
I like the pyro spells by themselves, and the kino spells by themselves. I almost never find a use between the pyro/kino spell synergy though. Fireball + TK keeps you in place for years and Flame Ground + Swap is limited, but decent on bosses.

>>122261802
holy fuck the 8 bullets from Fireball + Psychic actually hit independently? I'll have to try that sometime.
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>>122262116

So who are you going to trust enough to Awaken it?
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>>122261913
it's supposed to be killed by 5 people

>>122262368
yea, it gets pushed on small monsters tho
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>>122262398
It's not mine. Some guy called Doge in Zemyna has it. He also upgraded it to +20 in front of us, too.
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>>122235894
I hope they make this into an actual mechanic and not "bug fix it".

Just give mountable bosses something to remove players that jump on its back that is castable every 15 sec or so.

Since it's kinda cool being able to go shadow of the colossus on their asses.
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>>122262116
I want to make love to her
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So I did the lvl 90 dungeon 8x and I'm capped for today. I'm level 103 and I still ahve Tennants farm left from when I hit lvl 90.

Can I just quest until I get lvl 7 and 8 cards and save them or do I need to grind before I get there?
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Does Out of Body attack scale better with Blunt weapons or Rods?
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>>122262561
>+20
how?
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>>122262762
Probably a glitch. Potential is still at 5/7, and you need INSANE amount of funds to enchance past +5 a lvl 120 weapon,
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>>122262981
funds isn't a problem, the recipe for that weapon is 3m+
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Lv 84 now, have enough cards to get past 86, do I do it now or do I just keep questing while getting fucked by the level 93 mobs in Mausoleum F5?
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>>122263090

Anon..

That's the rip-off price people try to buy-in shop it for or shout for it for.

The recipe actually goes for at least 20 million.

It's by far the most valuable item in the current beta.
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>>122262762
>>122262116
isn't it just name?
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>>122262761
It seems to use weapon damage + magic damage or some strange formula like then when boosted by magic circles so blunts do more than rods.
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>>122262116

why would you screw your sword with some shit gems tho
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>>122263316
>Anvil Enhancement ^ 231
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>>122262756
Anyone, please? ;_;
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>tfw you've never even seen a world boss
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Always at 20% life or less. Such is the life of a Doppelsoldner.
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>>122263478
Oh god, why is she so cute and perferct.
I want to marry her.
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>>122263224
Don't use your cards after you get to 86. That'll be a waste of the exp reset.
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sword>sword>barbx3>doppel

or

sword>pelt>barbx3>doppel?
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>>122263224
get 86, a bunch of new quests open up
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>>122263872
sword -> memelander -> barb x3 -> doppel
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Where does Kaloo Hammer recipe drop?
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>>122263783
>>122263895
Thanks senpais, once I hit 90, I should just run the dungeon nonstop until 110 right?
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>>122263872
sword2 barb2 squire2
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>>122264019
Burning Fire Lord in Cathedral.
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>>122264019
world boss

think it's the 170 one

it's like the flamini though, the recipe ain't that rare, it's the maulos club that you need to fork out for
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So my friend just told me that attackspeed of archers is based on your latency.
Is the same true for swordsman and cleric?
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>>122264072
You're not gonna reach rank 6 with only two weeks left. Just get to rank 5 and see what your new class is like. Waiting until 110 means you're possibly burning yourself out or wasting days waiting for reset when you could be grinding/questing instead.
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Fucking dungeon bugged again
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>>122264178
Yes, but to a lesser extent because the way archers attack take more time to process compared to a simple swing for melees.
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>>122264178
Kind of.
I'd have to test, but I think when you're targeting something with an archer, it first checks server-side to see if the mob is in range, then it lets you shoot.
With other classes you just swing.
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>>122263671
People on /tosg/ like to flirt with me, but nobody has walked up the courage to come up and take my first kiss.
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>>122264365
Because you're a fucking retard.
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>>122264365
I would. The first time I saw you is what made me want to go cataphract.

I didn't know at the time your were doing the JUST route with your build though.
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>>122264195
Only Saule has the one-week extension, right? That means we only have one week left. But yeah, I only want to hit rank 5 now lol
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>>122264365
i tried to once but when i saw your build i threw up
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what the fuck how do these niggas get 1million silver and im over here farming the fucking red keppa what the fuck
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>>122264427
Fuck you faggot. Stop insulting our queen.
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>>122264502
naw theyll probably extend it for all servers, saule will melt if they dont
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Found a Zircon, how much can I get for those?
None on the Market.
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>>122264502
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

Saule +7 days.

>>122264546
Sure, the queen of retards. You can have her/him/it/xhe.
>>
What were those shoes that awakened into a ton of int? Scale Boots?
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>>122264698
Get fucked plebbitnigger
>>
>Palm Strike's bleeding effect hits with blessing and crits

Hot damn that's a good skill.
>>
>>122262756
Please guys, I beg you. I have no idea how to progress rom now.
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>>122264823
Yes you're free to quest, only pop cards if you're under min level for the main quest or area you are at.
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>>122263967
Isn't highlander shit later on?
Wouldn't it be better picking sword 2 for restrain?
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>>122264823
Do the Gytis Settlement line and the Steele Road line and the Kateen Forest line while you wait for your dungeons to come off cooldown and pop all your cards when you around 109. When you done with Mage Tower and the Starving Demon line after that and popped all your cards you should be 130
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>>122264365
I would but you're on Zemyna T_T
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Are there no goddess statues in the mage tower aside from on floor 1? I would rather not have to walk through the whole dungeon every time I go back there if I can avoid it.
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>quest wants monsters to be killed at a monument
>monsters are barely ever nearby/being immediately killed
>everything else is on a short leash and runs away at mach 2
FINALLY A USE FOR IMPALE
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>>122265226
There's another one on the 5th floor.
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>>122265286
Thanks, senpai. I just arrived on floor 5. So I'll start looking for it.
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>>122265226
the next one is on 5f. you can do it :)

just dont like the laser shooting robots see you.
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Oh wow
Linker is actually a lot of fun

Linking shit and then hitting it is hella satisfying, and giving enemies the knot seems like it'll be great later on.

It's unique and fun
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>>122265265
That quest was pure faggotry.
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>>122265350
It's been a while (Years since I last played), however was there not a build in path of exile that let you do something similar?
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>>122265350
It's largely useless outside of dungeons because barbarians will one shot everything regardless.
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>>122265265
The way you handled that animal was brutal. Someone call PETA.
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>>122265349
>just dont like the laser shooting robots see you
Those ones are the worst, but I made it somehow.
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>>122249360
So much bullshit
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>>122265265
Can you impale people's Anvils and take them away so they can't use them?
>>
Ah, the usual lag of of 4am game time
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fucking lag

im done for today
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>>122240457
>lines
Silly metric, but the game seems to share some common code with granado espada, so I'd say about 0.8 ~ 1.2 million.
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>>122265265
Ok I laughed.
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>>122265265
In a 5v5 PVP this would be so godly its like mega skarner ult.
>>
About what lvl do people get to c6?
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>>122265052
pls respond
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>>122265634
Yeah, the lag's too heavy right now. It'll calm down in an hour or so, maybe

>>122265749
176ish
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I wish there were better hats on the lower levels. I'm so sick of Gilt
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>>122265448
It's pretty great outside of dungeons as well. If you're worrying about the balance with barbarian, it can even supplement their abilities to one shot larger groups of mobs then they can normally.

I play a sorc/pyro with one circle in linker and it's immensely useful both in groups and solo. I recommend it to any curious wizard player, it's useful in almost every situation of the game.
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>>122265591
Know more about why this happens?
>>
If I go C3 Cryo, do I max ice walls or just get a certain amount for a decent number of tiles and dump the rest of my points in bolt/pike?

Going Psycho too if that matters.
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>>122265903
Level 7 for the 8 tile square full square.
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> put 1 point onto transpose
> use it
> suddenly have 10k hp from 2k hp
holy fuck i broke into laughter
so much that i died anyways
/blog
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>>122265903
I depend sof the person, but after much testing I feel that Ice Wall 7 is the best.

You can max ice pike but I dont recommend ice bolt, just max dat ice tree and snowball and you will have fun.
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>>122266006
Does transpose heal you to full when you use it?
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I really hope new Wiz classes will have any relevant damage. Right now Wizards are fun to play but their damage is nowhere near Swordies.

>>122266006
But you have to heal all the way up from 2k to 10k.

>>122266138
It does not.
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Playing with br is really tough, they dont understand you at all.
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>>122266138
>>122266169
It doesn't. It also gimps your damage if you literally have no CON.

But that was funny. I do not regret going Thaum
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>>122266169
Full CON Transpose go
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>>122266169
Wizards are quite strong in pvp. Very strong I would say.
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>>122266242
It's shit, dont forget that as Wiz you get more INT and CON when investing in points, so if you go full INT you end up with more than going with full CON and Transponse. Already tried it and Transponse is shit fellow Thaumaturges.
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>>122250051
>http://toswiki.treeofsaviorgame.com/
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I really wish they balance the classes later on. I can only speak for archers, but there are some classes that only feel useful for a skill or two
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>>122264427
>>122264527
Sometimes tsundere types like those show up. I know you guys don't mean it.

>>122264471
I wanted to make myself sort of hybrid, but then I became TOO hybrid.

>>122264546
That's going a bit too far.
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>>122266286
Yes i saw lv99 Wiz killing lv170Swordie, Wiz2Psycho2. Locked him in Sleep/Stun chain and killed him slowly with PP. Swordie was like 'dude staph' while Wiz was channeling. Cryo is great for that too.

I'm gonna roll swordie2/barb2 or something with spears, seems more fun and actually works good and wait for good Wiz job to appear.
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>>122266301
I can't understand what you're saying
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>>122266301
So the skill build is just 5 Swell, 5 Shrink and 5 Enlarge?
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>>122265591
>>122265862
I'd bet this is the scheduled back-up time. The database is auto-saving itself daily, so that if it ever craps itself, they have something to revert to. Standard MMO procedure.

>>122265749
I got it at 177, but a friend of mine somehow got it at 175. Depends on how much you grind.
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>>122266538
Skyforge had a daily lag time too for back-up but it only lasted less than 5 minutes.
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kCBT3; November 6th's patch notes have been translated.

http://pastebin.com/SFH6eu6T

According to the translation, the Archer buff was just 'base Strength value increased by 1'.
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>>122266438
Barbs and most of its variants like kirtosairs and BRblanders are PVE classes though.
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Holy shit this lag

I wanna know how the fuck the servers could be fine at peak hours but die at buttfuck am

this is retarded
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>>122266591
Devs really hate archers, don't they?
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Would cuteposting make this lag go away?
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>>122266428
>That's going a bit too far.

;____;
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When should I level up my oblique shot?
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>>122266591
What do Koreans even think about archers?
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>>122266702
I don't know what you're talking about, they're perfectly balanced as they are now. :^)
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>>122266730
No but it would shit up the thread.
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>>122266591
>'base Strength value increased by 1'.
TO WHAT END
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>>122266754
There was a huge discussion a while back about the state of Archers in kCBT, which actually lead to a lot of changes, mainly due to the Pierce removal and adjustment of skills.

Translated with GT, but it was a pretty huge thread in the forums.

http://pastebin.com/6r4PZ9uB

I don't know what they think of their current state though.
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>>122266752
I just put the rest of my points there, it isn't a very good skill
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God damn, lag made it so my party gave up after only I got into the lvl 50 dungeon.

I soloed the center and right side as a linker

Went from 50-55.
If I didn't have to quite due to lag making this shit impossible to survive randomly, I'd probably have been able to go straight from 50-58~ in one run.

That is ridiculous.
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What level do I have to be to get the quest from the lamp in 5f mage tower? I'm currently 119
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>>122266859
My party just finished it with no problem aside from getting in. Which server is that?
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>>122266479
Yes that's what i am running.

>>122266597
Not like we get anything from PvP, well it may be fun but it's only 5v5 and duel so far.

>>122266730
You have to post something cute first.
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>>122266907
Gabija of course
What other server would decide to just have horrible lag spikes at 4 in the morning?
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>>122266883
10 levels within a map's recommended level to get the quest on any map.

For the strange lamp in 5F, you needed to have completely EVERY quest from the Sealed Stones on previous floors.

You've probably missed some if you're the right level to get 5F's quests.
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>>122266907
Same. I didn't even know the server was lagging until I got back to town.
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>>122266649
Considering how consistent it is, they're probably running some kind of batch processing task at this time.

To disrupt as few people as possible they run that in the wee hours of the morning. Except this is iCBT, so it turns out to be 5 p.m. in SEA.
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>>122266883
don't skips quests anon
go back to the previous floors and finish everything
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>>122266859
You still go 50-56 or so in a full group. But good job soloing, some of those mobs hit really hard.
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>>122266756
nobody in /tosg/ realizes archer's S-rank PVP potential
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>>122267019
I got to 55 and around 40% and only killed half of the map

Soloing really ain't hard as a linker, joint->knot->balls & ground will basically take care of a group

It's just that sometimes you know, things stop taking damage and then 20s time catches up and you're dead and you gotta wait a minute for your gems to fall out of your body so you can finally revive
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>>122267037
They are amazing in PvP yes, good luck lvling one. Stone Shooting someone to death is great but in PvE archer a shit.
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>>122267037
Here's hoping Archer classes are just latebloomers.

Cannoneer and Musketeer actually look strong with both mobbing and bossing, but only based on the trailers which are adjusted to make the classes look good.

Also if Rank 7 is coming, makes me wonder what new skills Reiter is getting. They can't just have 4 skills spread out between C1 and C2.
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>>122267102
reminder to carry only yellow gems for a fabulous death animation
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>>122266743
I would cordially invite you to ERP with me, except I am not a faggot who indulges in this kind of thing.
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What do I take after Ranger C1?
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>>122267150
>I am not a faggot
>Arthuria LoliPantsu
sure m8
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>>122267150
b-but it's not gay if it's 2 girls.
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>>122267150
Is cartar stroke still good at your level?
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>>122266821
This English is very poor and I'm in a hurry, but I liked how they seemed to want to buff shit skills. Kneeling shot will still sick for me though
And You know what? I'll do what the other guy did and run reiter if I ever get there and spam concentrated fire.
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>>122267178
Ranger c3
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Also this image was taken from the KR Tester Forums.

These are images taken from the art book given out from the G-STAR 2015 booth. And no, the images were that small in the original post. These are the jobs seen in the trailer.

The post seems to suggest these are all Rank 7 classes, including Templar but this could be speculation as it's not an official IMC post.

>>122267306
The English part of the pastebin was just what I added, it's google translated version of the raw Korean post.
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>>122267284
If I had gone Barbarian, my barb skills would be stronger/more reliable than Cartar. CS still does a good amount of damage, and was my my skill up until I changed to Doppelsoldner.

On release, I am definitely going to roll a Doppelsoldner again, though not the retarded one I have right now. Swordsman, Peltasta, Barbarian C3, Doppel seems like the ebst option.

I wonder what kind of skills they'd give us at C2 and C3. A class that'd focused on trade-offs of power and drops could be really powerful, but like Sappers, it's not something most people could handle.
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>>122266821
>kworel Shooter
ebin
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>>122267424
>The post seems to suggest these are all Rank 7 classes

fucking really, two gunpowder classes at rank 7 archer? Why isn't hackapell in there yet. would be incredibly dumb to have a mounted crossbow class after them, unless they changed hackapell's weapon to a firearm as well
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>>122266591
If that means every point of Strength an Archer gets give an additional point of attack damage We would still suck because we would run out of mana
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Do all party quests have a chance of giving XP cards or is it only a few of them?
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>>122267531
all same chance
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>>122267531
Seems to be completely random.
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>>122266821
I really wish they would acknowledge iCBT even if it was just for a day. It's really disappointing how they've only cared about kCBT for all this time now. Sure, we at least got a beta but it's a horrible mess with almost no fixes and it's being completely neglected by IMC.

Those small posts on the forums saying "thanks for the feedback" mean nothing to me because I highly doubt that they're considering it feedback with the way they are treating us.
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Does the korean's CBT Klaipeda look as crowded and full of people as the channel 1 klaipeda on lamia?
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>>122267517
Well, based on the files I can pretty much confirm every class there except Featherfoot, Dragoon and Templar being Rank 7 for sure.

Featherfoot, Dragoon and Templar were all listed at Rank 8 in Job.ies.

It's likely these classes have been brought down to Rank 7 though because of all the skill data being added for them. The only class which hasn't gotten much skill data added was Templar, but I can't check any new files from 5th of November onwards due to the IPF change.

All the classes there (except for Templar), we pretty much know all their skill names and attributes. Templar, we only know that they have two skills listed as 'Goto' and 'Call'.
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>>122267486
Why pelt instead of highlander crit passive or sword 2?
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>>122267596
iCBT is only for stress testing, they admitted as much on day 1.
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>>122267637
I'm aware, it still doesn't make me feel any better.
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>>122267596
>basing balance changes or exp rates on international shitter feedback

no thanks. There have been numerous emergency maintenances to try to fix market, shout, server lag, etc
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>>122267618
Swashbuckling is love, swashbuckling is life. Better than Cartar and the 50% crit attack combined, by far.

I am not going to go through the insanity of levelling in prison, mushroms, and verkti square without it again, no way.
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>>122267617
Is there any information on army chaplain?
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>>122267596
man why would you expect anything else?
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Hoplite here, going for doppel for full DEEPS
what class should I pick as rank 5? I had Swordsman -> Swordsman -> Hoplite -> Hoplite but tbqh Hoplite 3 seems redundant somehow
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>>122267671
I'm OK with them not acknowledging the iCBT feedback because the feedback on the forums are largely shit.

Also it's that situation with most other kMMOs in that the NA/international version is always lagging a few patches behind the KR version. It's not a new phenomenon so I'm not too bothered about it.
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>>122267605
kCBT's population is very low right now because it's a closed testing period so most places aren't crowded.

Channel 1 Klaipeda still has Alchemists and Squire stalls but not as much.

In the first week of kCBT3, it was pretty packed. Not as packed as iCBT2 but that's probably because IMC didn't give keys to as many people as possible.

>>122267714
Nope, but based on Job.ies, it's a Rank 9 class. It may have changed as I've not been able to see any updates to that file since the 5th of November.

>>122267596
They listen to iCBT feedback whether or not they take it on board is a different story, but the majority of immediate changes has come from kCBT feedback. It's probably due to the feedback being in Korean, and that they're looking at balance based on the kCBT servers since they can update that daily and do not need to worry about translations.
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>>122267790
Cata
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Damn, the last room in the prison can be a fucking fight, those sudden harugal spawning in large numbers can really fuck your party up. Im 152 with 30 level 7 cards. Fuck.
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>>122267896
> Im 152 with 30 level 7 cards
Long way to 170.
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>>122267894
>152 with 30 level 7
kek
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>>122267985
>kek
Pretty much whats in my mind when Im grinding my ass off.

>>122267957
I can see that, loads of 160-166 still around too.
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>>122266756
It's true, archers are balanced. Everything else is fucked.
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>riding the summon eats SP on top of summon SP

This sucks.
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whats the next grinding spot from lvl 105 and can I use all cards up to it? (Except lvl 7 and 8)
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>>122268360
Yop, this sucks, the skills eat alot of SP too, also what is the point of Sorc SP attribute?
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Is second Demon Prison better for 160+lv ? Mob density is not that great though.
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>>122268486
So you can sit down for about 15 seconds and regen your entire SP bar. Its okay.
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>https://youtu.be/oyx39lMkWyo
This looks better that what we got now wtf. The Linkers chain looks like an actual chain.

>>122268751
It's that good? Nice.
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>>122268486
You also can't drink potions while riding.
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>>122268836
You also can't use summons skills, desummon or dismount with joypad, need to use keyboard for that.

meh
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>>122268940
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>>122267712
Umbo blow also hits surprisingly hard all things considered. Swordsman 2's double hits on Concentrate is hard to give up, though.
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don't spread memes loli

it is 500x
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Level 121 and haven't done the Party Quest missions yet. Do they give any substantial rewards or ?
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>>122268940
How do you desummon without right clicking on the buff icon?
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>>122269116
hats, noot noot
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>>122269135
So not worth bothering - back to grinding it is. Thanks
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>>122269131
You don't. I have to fucking take my hand off joypad and use mouse to right fucking click the icon. Same with using skills, mount with joypad, then move hand to keyboard to use skill and dismount and back to joypad, i think i'll switch to keyboard and mouse or just keyboard and dust off my logitech g13.
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>>122269306
Why the fuck? Also, are your mounted skills grey'd out? I can't see their cooldown timer.

I know they want to make sure Sorcs doesn't afk farm with good boss cards, but this is bloody ridiculous.
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How do you play sorceress without a constant hand on your dick? Are you all girls?
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>noob locations have 20 channels and are empty
>mid high locations have 1 channel and are overcrowded
why wont these clowns respond accordingly?
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>>122269398
After you mount the summon, their skills are bound to 'a s d f g'. And yes, they are greyed out.

>>122269419
I'm male Sorc. Fuck you.
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>>122268836
You can though.
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Can someone tell me which first skills I should take as Sorc c1?
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>>122269459
Because they don't care.
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>>122269546
Summon, riding and hold are necessary to use the summon properly. Do whatever with the rest. 1 point into salamion to be able to chuck him out to do his mediocre shit is okay.
The cat is awful and uses a million buff slots.
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>>122269459
they just want the icbt to be over already so they can focus on their obt in Korea so the sooner our servers die the better
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>>122269085
Blue mobs are 500x? I thought I had heard someone say it was 100x before. Now I know better.
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>>122269508
No you can't.
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>>122269459
I'm surprised they don't have some kind of automatic channel open/close thing, considering they're already using AWS.
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You need to kill 200 monsters for Dullahan to spawn? What's the catch? Does it only happen every 4 hours? Are the monsters tough as hell?
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>>122269692
It happens about every 2 hours, monsters aren't too strong
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>>122269590
Thank you. Is the cat "summon servant"?
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>>122269651
Logged into the game just for you.
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>>122245248
Indulgentia is a buff?
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>>122269786
What's your templeshooter damage?
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>>122269775
Yes. When you summon him he hangs around for just long enough to cast 1 buff on you per skill point you've spent in him. Each buff takes a seperate buff slot and if an enemy taps him before he finishes casting them he leaves anyway.
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>>122269486
If only there was a way to get a sex change in this game.
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>>122269786
well stay logged in and lets do the 190 dung
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>>122269929
Oh wow, one last question. What's the enxt best card after temple shooter?
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>>122270008
Probably Throneweaver, he has small AoE.
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>>122269786
>need to use gamepad

Fuck.
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>>122269786
On that ss you can clearly see the joypad overlay and summon skills under it. Wish they just tix this shit soon.
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>>122270008
I honestly liked chapparition because his auto attack has a huge range compared to the animation. Also his special attacks look cool.
I haven't actually done extensive testing though. Shadowgaler also hits twice with its basic attack but unlike temple shooter it doesn't seem to do its full damage twice.
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>reach rank 4 with sadhu and paladin
>no motivation to lvl anymore

AYYYYYYYYYYY

the monster density in this game is a joke
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>>122270108
Yeah controller is really comfy but they haven't finished working on the overlay at all. Lots of features don't work with controller mode active. Someone told me using a controller is also the reason why I never see the report bug button?
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>>122269786
it's funny how -sp on blue gems is actually useful for sorc. What armor you got?
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Anyone wanna buy a 5 star temple shooter on gab?

I need money, sorry for jewing.
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>>122270229
I am considering getting Peltasta1 instead of Swordie2 just for that taunt.

>>122270257
Best joke is switching to mouse mode and back just to enter the dungeon.

>>122270295
Summon drains flat amout every tick or it's %?
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>>122270341
1% every 3 seconds
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>>122270341
Summon drains 1% of your max mp per 3ish seconds. The 1% is rounded down to the nearest 100 it seems because even when I had something like 1387 it was still taking 13.
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>Go Ranger C2
>Only one new skill
>It doesn't even look like it'll be of any use

How do I make up for this? Whether stat wise or attribute dumping.
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>>122270516
Ranger C2 is a joke, they should at least move Bounce Shot or Spiral Arrow to it.

Time Bomb Arrow is so bad. Only way to make the skill somewhat useful is to link two enemies with Full Draw, then use it as it duplicates the effects to the other skewed target. This works with other debuffs and states like Wugushi's poisons.

That being said, can anyone test if Joint Penalty and Time Bomb Arrow works in a similar fashion? (i.e. The bomb effect duplicates on both enemies.)
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>>122269786
>>122270412
>>122270380
Hey idiots, you summon defence is based on spr. Enjoy it getting melt in seconds.
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>>122270229
It wouln't be so bad if there were more channels
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>>122270647
Does it matter with Joint Penalty, since the bomb effect is damage? So as long as it goes off, all enemies linked will take that damage.
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>>122270647
You know, Bounce Shot is basically what Oblique Shot should have been from the start.
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>>122270726
And it's HP is based on the sub card stars.

My temple shooter has 59k health :^)
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>>122270726
Thanks, I managed to get to level 190 without figuring that out. This information is going to completely change how I play the game.
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>>122270790
Yes, that's why it's on a more advanced class than the base one...
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>>122270807
Have you even tried 190 dungeon yet fagboy?
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>>122270295
>it's funny how -sp on blue gems is actually useful for sorc
huh? why?
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>>122270742
It does, as with Skew, the effect applies twice, so both targets are damaged twice.

If it works with Joint Penalty, which can link more mobs, then it'd be an explosion for each enemy linked which would damage every linked target. So 5 links would be 5 explosions which means each enemy is damaged 5 times.

If it didn't work (which I expect it doesn't, as Joint Penalty doesn't seem to duplicate debuffs), it'd be one hit which would damage each enemy linked once.
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>>122270897
think for a second
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>>122270816
They could have come up with a better way to differentiate the two.
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>>122269786
How much SPR do you have? I'm going Sorc and I kinda wanna figure out the stats beforehand.
>>122270897
Less SP means the 1% every 3 seconds tick of summoning is less, which mean sp pots can combat the sp drain better.
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>>122270897
Because SP pots recover a flat amount and summon drains SP based on your max SP. Also all natural SP regen is disabled while summon is out.

This means the less max SP you have, the less the summon drains, but at same time the amount you recover with SP pots is constant.
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What is some good leather pants for level 120 thats not Legwyn.
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>>122271007
I haven't put a single point into SPR but that doesn't necessarily mean thats the best thing to do.
I have found so far that having less SP means mana pots go farther and my pet does slightly more damage.
My stat card is 9 stars and so my summon HP pool is large enough that it usually survives at least 60s til I can resummon for a fresh HP bar.
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Has anyone seen any C3 paladins, or did all the priests go Monk?
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>>122271113
>My stat card is 9 stars and so my summon HP pool is large enough
So you lvl up the second card instead of the first one? Or you do both.
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>>122271253
You can put the same card in both slots if you want.
Only the card in the second slot affects the stats, while the first card is the monster you summon.
My stat card is a 9 star shadowgaler a couple of my buddies fed all their cards into.
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>>122271336
What is the next best summon if I don't have shooter yet?
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>>122270257
How do you deal with quest item button?
Just us the keyboard or did you find a fix?
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Is there any reason to not build your Archer as Dex/Con/Spr?
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>>122271408
Gave my thoughts on that earlier >>122270112
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>>122271560
Without STR your crit attack will be a joke.
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>>122271605
Crit Attack barely makes a difference as its just a flat addition.
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>>122271007
>>122271032
I see.
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>>122271571
ah ty
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>>122271441
Nah I just use the keyboard. Really hope they work on controller soon but I think I might switch to M+K anyway for the ability to quickly and accurately cast ground target spells.
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>finally get to C2 hoplite
>try spear lunge
>pierce can now do overkills
Neat
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I think I glitched out the main quest.

I was doing the Main Chamber questline, took a detour at Sanctuary and killed Naktis.

Now Bishop Aurelius is in Sanctuary and I cannot interact with him.

Did I fuck up or is there something I'm missing?
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>>122272582
I think you need to summon and then talk to him in Grand Corridor.
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Has anyone seen a Falconer, or a Schwarts in-game yet?
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>>122271336
>Only the card in the second slot affects the stats, while the first card is the monster you summon.
except it only changes numbers in the UI, unless you use morph
I tried summoning with different sub cards and it was hitting exactly the same.
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>>122242543
you have to get to level 103 before your next quest flag appears.
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>>122272624
Most of Archers have quit or rerolled.
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>>122272709
Not him but I'm 103 right now and I finished Steele and saved the cards so far. Can I just use all my cards till lvl 7 and do all the quests or do I need to grind somewhere?
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>>122272612
Oh thanks, I completely missed that.
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>>122272635
Hang on, really?
Gonna have to test this, it sounds exactly the kind of thing IMC would fuck up.
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>Arde Dagger used to run as low as 400k
>Now they go for 1 million at minimum and everybody and their mothers use it so nobody bothers to sell it

So where can I get this meme dagger?
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>>122272971
In meme dunjun
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>>122272635
>>122272959
Welp, it's true. Time to go back to feeding all my shit to temple shooter instead.
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Just hit 90, anyone running the dungeon?
Not a linker though.
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Literally jews. Those pardoners.
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New thread?
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>>122233479

2~3 months for normal people.
More for ROfags who think this is a decent style of game for 2015.
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What drops Legwyn Leather gear?
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>>122262761
>>122263351
I've tested this and hit more with rods, don't fall for the lies
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>>122273305
So you feed cards to temple shooter, put it in the sub slot, summon anything and then morph to get the card stars bonus?

What an unecessary work
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There we go, I found one.
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I'm level 104 right now and never did the Party quests before. Anyone willing to do those with me?
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guys I solved the magnum opus
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>>122274085
Why not two temple shooter cards then?
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>>122274085
No I just put temple shooter in both slots.
With a 4star temple shooter in the main slot and a 9 star shadowgaler in the sub slot I did the same damage as with 4 star temple shooter in the main slot and a 1 star necroventer in the sub slot.
I then boosted my temple shooter to 6 star and put him in both slots and hes hitting 200 damage harder per hit.
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>>122274143
So it just makes different materials?
Have you tried anything with those crystals from lot 2?
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>>122274210
How hard it's hitting now? Is the skill lvl affecting it much? Or it's just INT and card stars?
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>>122274210
I'm pretty sure the second slot only shows you the stats assuming the card was in the first slot, and is otherwise only used for Morph, which doesn't do anything to stats either
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>>122274230
That particular one is part of a chain, combining 4 parts and then it gives you either a new material or a core, then you stick in 4 of those and get another material or core. the end result was a Gravegolem Core. Working on another chain now. I have some of those crystals so I'll try them.
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>>122273948
Necroventer
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>>122274210
But what about what the other anon said about morph?
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>>122274273
It went from hitting 1600-1700x2 to hitting 1800-1900x2.
Summoning gives your pet 0.4x your INT in attack at rank1 and 0.8x your INT in attack at rank 5. Mine is at rank 5.
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>>122274303
would be nice if you can somehow craft 1% drops.
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>>122274446
How easy do you find it to get cards to feed to Templeshooter? Do you attend every world boss that's announced for a shot at its card and run every dungeon to its limit on top of card battles?
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>>122274524
I do none of those things because I'm a lazy faggot and this is a beta.
I would be doing all of those if it wasn't all going to be wiped though.
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>>122274210
So the sub slot is just for show?
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I want Capybara pet
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>>122274303
>>122274523
Actually after searching a bit you might be able to make weapons with it. Try to make a simple weapon like the potentia or whatever. Maybe using magnum opus you can make the stuff without the recipe in hand.
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>>122274429
>>122274592
I believe a use for the sub slot/morph would have been to put my 9 star shadowgaler into the main slot, summon it, then use morph to turn have temple shooter spawn with the stats of the 9star shadowgaler.
I haven't tested it and don't plan to though.
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Is peltasta barb a solid build?
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>>122274719
I want grita pet
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>>122274804
pelt>barb3>doppel sounds about right.
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>>122274761
Forgot to include this image. I think this is how to make the frost rod.
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Dungeons down I guess. God damn, I just hit 90, too.
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I just got a vuvuzela. I can get it to do the animation but the sound doesn't play? Somebody in one of my parties got one too and theirs made sound.

Is it just glitchy or what's happening?
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>>122274947
Maybe you blow the wrong side?
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I have seven hundred thousand silver coins on Gabija and I need another one of those meme daggers.
Do you think an exchange of this kind can be arranged or should I kill additional varvs?
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>>122275136
Well you could trying to offer to buy one in shout.

I see people doing the same from time to time for 600-800k so you might be able to get in an offer eventually.
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>>122274761
>>122274862
I tried making a few, and no luck

also if that recipe is still in the game, that's not Cryorite. Possibly sapphires I guess
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>>122275136
Do all archer classes wear spats, similar to how all swordmen classes wear skirts that show lots of pantsu?

I was a bit disappointed with the Doppelsoldner outfit, since it's the first one not showing panties. At all.
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>>122275365
That's probably 4 Sapphires, and the other material is 6 Mythril Ore.

Which is crazy if it's just making Storm Staff/Archmage Staff. It's probably not in the game.
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>make a cute witch pyro
>people ask for my steamid
>give it
>suddenly this unnatural attachment to me, always striking up conv and shit
>realize they think i'm a girl
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>>122275136
Damn anon, stop making me want to play Swordie. c-can you post more?

Still i have no idea what kind of swordie i would play. so many cool weapons and i can't have them all ;w; and cata a shit, will dragoon change 2h spears?
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>>122275590
>realize they think i'm a girl
Nobody thinks that you damn homonerd.
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>>122275365
Actually looking at this now it looks like metal like mithril ore.
Maybe try out some things with ore if you got them. See if ore combines and makes purer forms. Though you probably already thought of that.
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>>122275136
Every single butt in this game is just so cute.

Whip weapon when?
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>>122275670
Would you like Demon Pepe Queen to whip your round butt? :^)
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>>122275136
How bad is rodelero?
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>>122239471
Archer 2/sapper is a bit rough until you hit sapper c2. You don't have the damage of pure archers and you don't have the aoe of sapper 2.

You're in the awkward, terrible puberty of arching.
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What's the appeal of wugushi? I see people praising it but can't figure out what would be good about it besides the poison which seems kinda weak.
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>>122275670
>Every single butt in this game
Spats>sorc slut pantsu>white pantsu
These white grandma panties are killing my boner.
They could at least put some teddy bear on them, like NPC's in Dragon Nest.
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>>122275879
Just like most Archer classes before Rank 4
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>>122275512
>>122275668

360k down the drain, if I can get my hands on 3 more sapphires I'll try combining them
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Archer costume > Ranger costume
The little bit of exposed skin on Ranger's thigh is pretty sweet tho
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>>122275949
>archer can't be specced into a kicking class
This was a mistake
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>>122276095
We need knuckle and leg weapons
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My mans, go make a new thread already.
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>>122276126
No you make it my mane.
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>>122276232
I don't have a good picture to use.
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How the fuck do I mount with a controller?
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>>122276375
When near your companion, L1 + L2 + Up. Dismount is the same buttons, but Down instead.
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>>122248679
Sapper c1 is shit and unless you grab archer c3 your damage will be shit until you grab broomtrap.

Your best three skills right now are stockades, detonate, multishot and oblique shot
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>>122275967
but still the weakest than other R4 classes
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>>122276375
L1+L2+stick up
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>>122276464
Ranger C3 is... fine, I guess?
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>>122276464
my ranger is far stronger than both my cleric tree characters
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>>122276413
>>122276491

Oh god thank you!

Btw, can I still salvage this?
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>>122265657
so its using lua scripts ?! rofl...
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