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harvest moon edition

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayYpOhqJXg [Embed]

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393

Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>Leveling Guide for Idiots
Check your maps for recommended levels and grind there faggot

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
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>>122150258
Guilds for kissing.
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>>122149689
There's content in the higher level zones, there's just a bottleneck in exp that funnels everyone into demon prison while sitting on a mound of exp cards. There needs to be another dungeon, higher level party quests, or just more quests in general around that level range. OR MAYBE MORE CHANNELS IN REQUIRED GRIND ZONES? MAYBE? IMC?

The idea that your best option is to save every single quest reward you've ever received so that you can skip a particularly hellish chunk of levels seems kinda stupid. It makes questing feel really unsatisfying.
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>>122150258
So Templar gets extra buttons on the bottom right?
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A painting of me on the floor.
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Whens Miko
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>>122150258
that is one ugly costume
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>>122150285
Wut? glad bangle is from that world boss though.
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Is it worth it to take 1 Ele if I'm going Sorcerer at rank 5? Currently Wiz-Pyro-Linker, or should I jsut go Pyro2?
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might not be a thighlander anymore but this is quite nice too
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What's the name or Orsha's map? Looks like it's not included in the IPFs.
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What do Monster Gems sell for?

Also where can I get some Crit Rate gear to make up for being a shitty full SPR Archer?
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Kissing is literally the reason this game was created.
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>>122150729
how did you even get there
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>>122146502
crystal powder doesnt seem to be very effective, I think ill look for another lv110 grind spot
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>>122150825
kissing is good
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I can't believe I left warframe to play the closed beta of another game with infinite grind and devs that don't actually play, is there any way to end this suffering?
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If you had to take one would it be Prominence or Electrocute? Coming from a Pyro C2.
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>>122150258
>instanced area for guilds
pretty good, hopefully customizable as haven worlds but not requiring the same amount of money

>card slot
Some necronomicon for templar, I guess? Could be something to create a boss that serves your guild?
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>>122150893
Cheatengine trickery to make the game load a specific zone.
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>>122124556
>>122128551

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p4Fp2oeLPr8aY0P7YjcDmodmvcP3bEhexZqHsKio4PU/edit?usp=sharing
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>>122151074
I haven't even touched the Overwatch beta to play this game.
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>>122151074
>hates infinite grind
then what do you want? to hit max level in a week and quit? to feel like you acomplished something in your miserable life? what's the point?
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What's proper grind spot etiquette? Should I not care and just try and kill everything?
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>>122150729
Are there actually mobs there? I see money on the ground.
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>>122151203
do mobs actually spawn or is it just empty
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One sacrament, two blessing and three concentrate procs from one auto-attack is a reason to live.
How much is an obsidian?
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So what do I do if I'm 169 and have no cards?

Quit?
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>>122151291
Do whatever feels right.
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>>122151497
reroll another character
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>>122151348
>>122151373
No mobs, this is handled by the server. It only loads the basic background structure.

The mobs and other clickable stuff is loaded from the original zone (you can see the location names on the map are from some low level area around Klaipeda).
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>>122151360
i've done 20 or 25 runs so far.
got the dagger on 2nd ever run, one opal(?) and talt everything else.
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Is the timer for Marionette on the Google Docs accurate? Are you niggas planning to show up? I want to try and go for that sweet sweet Suncus Maul.
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>>122151709
I was there. it's correct.
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>>122151702
No necroventer cards?
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Got a recipe really cheap to resell.

Can't put back up on the market.

Can you not resell recipes if you buy em from the market?
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>Just hit level 136
Holy Shit! I had forgotten what experience felt like.
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>>122151074
>doesn't like infinite grind

game isn't for you

just a friendly tip, to be honest

>>122151097

prominence is fucking random as fuck, don't take it
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>>122151689
And you can't get into Orsha?
that's a shame, they probably haven't even made that place yet.
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>>122151759
Nice, I hope we have enough peeps to take it down.
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>>122151851
>they probably haven't even made that place yet.
Looks like it. The map doesn't seem to be included in the game.
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>>122151837
>don't like Prominence
I really don't understand this at all
there is this attribute that makes it spawn closer to you and behind you when you are running

it kills a lot of mobs with you just jumping over them
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So when does the beta end? Are they gonna give more keys away? Any way to get a key right now?
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>>122151795
Most items have a really poorly translated "untradable" stat for how many times it can still be traded, just like potential on gear

Same shit happened to me
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>>122148753
So if I had 4 elements it would proc 5 times on a normal attack?
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>>122152060
The trailer in OP says there's going to be open beta in december
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>>122152072
Ah I see. Well rip my cash stack then.
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>>122152215
for korea
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>>122152072
Beta ends in two weeks, three for saule, probably no more keys being sent out.
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I take back everything bad I said about priest 3. Stoneskin lets you block without a shield. That is all.
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>>122152215
seems like that's for Korea

frankly I'll probably skip the next international CBT in favor of more fucking sleep. unless they make the game suddenly infinitely more fun.
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>>122152340
>>122152442
fug :DD
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>>122152410
Meant to quote >>122152060
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Where do i find level 4 treasure keys?
tosbase only lists one monster without a map
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>>122152598
You will eventually get one from a quest boss
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>>122152546
So what happens after the beta ends? I know there's gonna be a wipe but when would I be able to play?
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>>122151851
Orsha's not included in the iCBT files.

It's made though, and has existed for it for some time. They recently patched the map into kCBT3 (end of October), but map data for Orsha has been present for a while.

Orsha is also seen in the G-STAR 2015 trailer.
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>need to demon prison grind
>full of people
>nowhere else to grind
>no other channels
Good thing this game is so linear, otherwise I would be able to deviate from the path I'm forced on!
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Anybody got the exp curve chart again?
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so I'm finally forced to make an archer because I exhausted every other class

what is the least painful route I can go? I also have lots of gear I can transfer to it like a meme dagger
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>>122152815
dina bee farm

on an unrelated note this game's current endgame is pretty fucking garbage
run dungeons -> talt -> afk waiting for field bosses

meh
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Has there been any information regarding army chaplain?
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>>122152751
Korea had 3 closed betas, and are going into open beta next month. Our second closed beta was supposed to match their 3rd, but we're still behind on a couple patches. Maybe they'll skip doing a 3rd closed beta for international and go straight to open beta, but who knows how long that will take.
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>>122150689
Pyro 2 is nice. The jump from 5 to 10 hits per Fireball is pretty worthwhile. Very few monsters, even the fire resistant ones will survive it. Outside of instance monsters, obviously. The only Worthwhile Ele skill at circle 1 is Hail. Prominence won't come close to Level 10 Fireballs practical damage until later circles. Electrocute is too cumbersome. Even if it does combo well with Links.
As for the other things that come with Pyro 2. Fire Pillar has an awful cooldown. So point investment feels bad. Even if the skill is mechanically pretty good. Firewall, while needing a lot of points to not be terrible (hit count increase) is more useful. Pyro 2 will grant you those points.
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>>122153048
what's even the point of giving us a closed beta that's several patches behidn the other closed beta? Are they just trying to find out how much they can fuck us in the ass while we ask for more?
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>>122152930
Really wish they at least put in the arena
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>carter stroke/blessing/concentration bug
wew
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>>122153048
thanks fahm
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>>122153130
Stress test servers and see how lag affects the game because it's nonexistent in korea.
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Any doppel around?

Can you use Mordschlag with spears?
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>>122152751
gib steam id
>>122152886
c3 ranger ez mobbing.
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>>122153130
>people wanted to play the game but cant because no korean ssid
>want to test how the servers react when more people play
Whats up with you bitches constantly complaining "hurr its broken", "durrr its outdated"

Man, just fuck off
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Tried the Cafrisun Set on archer and then again with the meme dagger.

It's 12 damage unless you use the meme dagger to double dip, which turns it into a 165 extra hit.
Hitting earth weak monsters for +50% damage actuall doubles the damage to about 300-350 for whatever reason.
Doesn't proc another hit of Steady Aim.

It's probably still worth using along with the meme dagger and potential party buffs but losing out on Rokas Leather Armour and Vubbe Fighter Gauntlets is kinda questionable.
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glackuman up gabija sw room
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Anybody knows if I can do the 132 dungeon at 131?
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Jesus christ

Why does this bitches pet go full fucking honey badger while mine just remains a complete potato? Is the pet AI meant to be this garbage?
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>>122153686
>actually using a pet
enjoy your leeched xp b*tch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>122153614
It's actually 130.
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>>122153728
I'm not. Some hunter chick NPC in Glade Hillroad lends you hers and the thing just goes on a killing spree.
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>>122153589
on classes like hoplite it's a no brainer
you get +3 aoe from finestra already so you don't need the gloves, and 8 dex from rokas isnt really anything to give a shit about.
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>>122153589
>and Vubbe Fighter Gauntlets is kinda questionable.
>steady aim
I thought the gaunlets don't work on archers?
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>>122153745
Aw shit, gonna go back cause everything at the 2nd floor of the cathedral is 140+
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>>122153562
STEAM_0:0:86516263
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198133298254

idk shit about steam id's
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>>122153686
Buy premium pets at the iCoin Shop, goy.
Coming Soon™
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>>122153837
It works for everything that has the AoE attack ratio tag. Unfortunately only affects High Anchoring for Rangers due to Bounce Shot using "Targets" instead.
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>kill one thing
>quest tally sound plays over and over
Please stop
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>>122153589
completely isn't worth it without blessing/sac
you are giving up 200+ damage to get an extra 12 base damage hit
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>>122153130
oh you know... to TEST the god damn translations fucktard

you guys are acting like it would be better to have the game released 2 or 3 years after the game was released in Korea and ignore the qestern audience altogether.

It's a god damn Korean dev, it was a miracle of the universe to even have 2 official tests available to the western audience this early compared to any other MMO in the history of gook mmos.

fucking entitled pricks, you didn't evne pay anything to play this game, fucking go cry in the riot forums, or blizzard, or whatever shit game you come from.
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>>122153964
I wonder if they'll put up pets that loot stuff
then have the afk bots buy them
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>>122154109
Good thing we can use a bug report button, or easily progress, to easily report all the typos and wrong translations right?
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So where is the boss on demon prison 2 supposed to be?
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>>122153606
and where is that?
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>>122154068
Where is that 200+ damage coming from?
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>>122154173
That's what TERA did. Except they took it one step further and made a pet that gathers for you.
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>>122153745
By the way, until what level should I be doing that dungeon? 140?
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How are hunters/falconers? I don't have money for companions
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>>122154109
i wonder if imc eventually goes like, nah screw this shit let's just give the publishing rights for the western one to nexon as well. yep.
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>>122154325
start it asap and do it twice a day
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>>122154421
Ok going there now to look for people.
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>>122154325
At least, but that depends on whether you can stand only being able to do the dungeon twice a day.
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>can only do tenet dungeon 5 times a day
are there any other level 50 dungeons or do i just have to wait till reset
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Anyone got a sweet spot to grind away at level 110-120? Mage tower sucks
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>>122154410
Good. At least they'll keep it playable.
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>>122154610
Starving Demon's Way
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>>122154602
You don't even need to do it anymore
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>>122154686
>nexon keeps games playable
Vindi has connection issues all the time
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>>122154375
Falconer is horrible, easily in the top 3 worst classes in the game if not the worst.

Hunter is decent if you already leveled your pet with anothr character, it has wonky AI, but it spams rush dog all the time for free, if your pet is underleveled half his hits will be for 1 and your pet has a tendency to ignore commands if you aren't in line with the enemy or the pet is too far.
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Is the fireball DOT attribute any good
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Is there somewhere I can check what's the maximum amount of EXP Packs one can get from each tier?

I remember having upwards of 200 Lv3s, but I'm unsure as to how many Lv4s and up one can get.

No, I didn't save my Lv3s, I just added up all of the ones I used
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>>122154705
thanks

Also anons of gaba, come to femidian there's a alchi that roasts your gems for 15k
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>>122154925
no, it's terrible
adds 8s cooldown
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>>122154925
No, don't waste your money or time.
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I think I'm having the same problem as the guy from the other thread. I collected those three stones from the pillar, but I haven't gotten any quest notification or anything. I also tried to go to that silver monument at the bottom of the map and there is nothing to activate on it. Any help?
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>>122154567
I'm stuck at 131 I have to do it ;_;
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Golden falchion + Arde dagger = GG corsair??
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>>122155070
Use the seal of space in your inventory when you're next to that pillar.
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>>122154798
why?
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>>122155070
Use the cross via inventory screen. Activation prop does not show up.
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>>122155070
use seal of space at the bottom of that area
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>>122155104
>not hoplite sair

lmao
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>>122155148
If you reached 60, you're fine.
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Lost a sapphire in the market

Shit was like 300k

Does it just delay coming back or is it gone 5ever?
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>>122155378
5ever, thanks for beta testing
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>Kirito Goku

KEK
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>>122155240
I thought Swds>swds>barb>barb was best
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>>122155456
>cool
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Is it true that as a Wizard I shouldn't really put much into INT?
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>>122155486
only if your name your character kirito
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>>122155378
did you search sapphires on the Market to see if it was still there
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>>122155378
Market ate 2 of my meme daggers.

I wouldn't put anything for sale now. Only buying is safe.
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>>122154887
Aw. Falcons are companions right? Would the hunter skills work with them?
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>>122155153
>>122155139
>>122155161
Thanks. Also does anyone know where the fuck this table is at?
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>>122155586
>did you search sapphires on the Market to see if it was still there

Yee it's not there just ones that are more expensive than the one I put

>>122155639
Dude RIP 1.6m sheckles
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imc extend beta pls
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>>122155726
damn that is rough
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>>122155585
so tell me why hop is better
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>>122155724
floor 2 place of debate
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>>122155340
oh, yeah, i know, but id prefer to push it a bit to 65 anyway. the dungeons are pretty fun so...
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>>122155639
I'm scared it's going to eat my ruby.
It already ate about 1m in rare recipes and mats.
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i lost my karacha crossbow on the market

just fuck my shit up senpai
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>>122155724
all the way on the east side of 3F, switch to keyboard mode to interact with space
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>>122155724
Crap I forgot to save a couple of threads ago where it was. I know where it is but I'm in a dungeon waiting for 1 guy so I have to find it later.
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>>122155847
What sucks is I rerolled on a new server and I had like 40k silver at the time, and the sapphire selling would've helped me tremendously gearing up for 75.

That's beta tho
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>>122155724
>tosbase doesnt have any pictures indicating where these things are
Its so useless sometimes
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>>122155907
I lost 2 karacha dagger recipes on the market, might as well try to sell them in shout chat instead
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>>122155819
cause it actually functions without being in a party with a priest 24/7.
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>>122155841
Then wait for an hour for reset
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>>122156034
I was going to buy a dagger with the money from the crossbow
just end me
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>>122154949
pls respond i'm a retard
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>>122154109
Im not going to suck IMC's dick just because they gave us a closed beta.
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Does the market eat any item or just expensive ones? I haven't lost anything yet. Maybe some people are exploiting a bug.
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when is the grind wall again and can you skip it with cards?
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>>122156445
165-175 and yes you can but you need to basically get and save every single lvl 7 and 8 card
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>>122156354
It eats any item.
I'm not sure what causes it, but probably lag.
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>>122156354
I've had enhanced items lose their anvil bonus while sitting on the market, it's just buggy.
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>>122156580
In reverse that means I can blow every lower card right? Fuck mage tower grind
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>>122156354
One hour ago, I just lost every single recipe that I had put up, in total it was roughly 50 different level 120-170 recipes. Ranging in price from 50k to 300k
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>>122156251
And IMC isn't going to magically develop their game in english just because you are angry you're one patch behind Korea.
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>>122156787
Im not mad about the patches, I'm mad about how shit the game is for a beta.
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>>122156867
this desu
I really hope we're running on an alpha version, because there's a lot of broken shit that shouldn't have made it this far.
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So im guessing another 1 1/2 or 2 months until Open beta?
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>>122156747
If you think mage tower grind is bad, you'll quit at demon prison.
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>literally nothing works right
>i-it's just a beta!
At least most games have most of their features working, this game has just looked like a disaster
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>>122156987
probably longer they will be focusing on the Korean open beta for a bit
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They shouldn't have gotten this much testers if they can't handle it. iCBT1 was already so-so
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>>122156956
There are server side issues which I can understand because it's not the what they're used to.

Though other design choices like the way stats work, class balance in general(lolAnything that doesnt have frenzy or abuse multi hits) and just the mind numbing linearity that every ToS drone ragged on themepark MMO's for having when ToS is a themepark MMO itself is just awful.
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>As the beta goes on more stuff breaks instead of stuff getting fixed
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>>122157064
I would honestly rather just grind instead of doing all these pointless quests. Bokor grinding is actually pretty fun once you get zombies up. And you get lots of recipes to sell when you grind.
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>>122157373
Can't wait for open beta!
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>>122130486
Alright asking again since we're an hour away from reset, Anyone on Laima want to run the 130 dungeon when its up?
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>>122155545
Well with most of our skills having long cooldowns, only thing we can do to make most of our time is by doing auto-attacks. So might as well invest mostly in INT and little bit into SPR and CON at the beginning until you really need CON later.
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>>122151795
this fkn jew
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>>122157550
>hour away from reset
Did I miss something? They are resetting the levels?
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>>122157636
Dungeon limit reset
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Anyone know how to do this quest?

- The one who experienced death
Requirement : ?
Reward : +5 Stamina potion
How to unlock : You die many times? or You have kill a boss in tenet citadel? (Need confirm which is it that trigger quest because I have done both of that before quest appear)

Missing my last fucking stam pot
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>>122157106
>literally nothing works right
What do you mean?
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>>122157636
Instance reset, is this your first mmo or are you just daft?
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>>122157550
>>122130690 Where you at buddy
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>>122157550
I'll do it.
I'm a dps.
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>>122157689
I had it show up once.
I died way too many times to the world boss in the Mage Tower.
Then my game crashed and I lost it.
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I don't have a minimap anymore in Klaipeda (´・ω・`)

Please advise.
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>>122157848
>>>/rs07g/
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So are Druids completely magic focused or do you want to get some str or dex for transformation?
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sayYpOhqJXg

Man I can see the featherfoot's life drain being great with pyromancer's fire pillar.
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Is it possible to boss rush the 175 dungeon? Which mobs do you need to kill for the gate to open?
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What's a good place to farm shit to level gems?
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Anyone on Gabija wanna trade a Vuvuzella for an Arde dagger or Toy hammer?
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>>122157848
Press N or M, move, map is fixed
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Reminder that Pardoner is the most useless cleric tree even at C2.

Things pardoner needs fixed:
>Pardoner: Donation
It does literally nothing. Toggled on or off, no damage of any skill changes. I had a feeling it increased the capacity of the box but after raising it another 10 levels, no change was made to the damage of indulgentia through the Oblation attribute
>simony
The fact that they cut down what skills you can craft to such a pitiable amount just guts every reason someone would have for wanting to play this class. Alchemists, Squires and fletchers still have their core fun stuff that go with being a vending support class but pardoner gets the shaft. Literally no skills other than daino, zalciai and cure can be crafted through my build and a priest build would only include one of their two damage buffs on top of it. It doesnt even seem like any other sector in cleric would have a skill crafted onto a scroll either
>Spell shop
Needing a skill that takes reagents is mind boggling as to why this is even in pardoner in the first place. Give it to priest. We dont need it.
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>>122158030
I am pretty sure the grass shit scales on strength, not int.

Also, does anyone have a lightna chain?
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Will the intended endgame-ish content include enough dungeon running to make a linker^3 viable?

Is linker^3 good at grinding? (will be leveling with swordsman-type friend)
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>>122158030
Transformations are crap, only reason to use them is to run faster for a few seconds, they're not combat viable at all right now. Druid get a stupidly strong INT aoe and that's pretty much it.
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why are there so many fucking level 65+ doing the 50 dungeon
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>>122157808
Sure, name?
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why is no one at all doing the 190 Archmage dungeon
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anyone ever seen Bleak Chapparition in Tenet Chapel 1f or 2nd?
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>>122158371
haha_xDDDD
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>>122158337
because it's good

faggot
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>>122150485
>/tosg/ guild forms
>gets its own guild hall
>has at least a dozen people kissing in it at any given time
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>>122158240

>TFW going to need another entire beta just to figure out what class i even want to play at launch
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>>122158225
Mage tower isnt a dungeon but its jam-packed full of aggressive enemies in a very small coridors.

Was thinking "a linker would be great to have here" during my time there
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>>122158527
>guild hall
Don't try to whitewash it, it's going to be a brothel.
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Someone explain to me why you should choose Thaumaturge instead of Elementalist?
Someone explain to me why you should choose Elementalist instead of Thaumaturge?

Someone tell me which one works better with linker.
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>>122158491
Oh you're the sapper I partied with yesterday, should've known with that name
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So this is Guild vs Guild vs World Boss?
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Time to murder some bots
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>>122158653
>tfw have all the builds I want to play based on what we know figured out, and it will all go out the window when new classes are in
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>>122158527
>fatalpulse used to do Ragnarok doujins
>he might draw ToS doujins in the future
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C-can I have your pantsu instead?
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>>122151709
>>122151759
I want to go too

Does it spawn on a fixed spot? Do I just walk the map randomly? How does this work
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>>122155690

No.
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>>122158741
How about read their goddamn skills and think for 15 seconds? Thaumaturge is a buff class with zero damage skills outside of a few attributes.
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>>122158751
kek
Who were you?
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>>122158173
My man, it's fubar.
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>>122158958
The Scout
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>>122158741
Ele is better because you'll have skills to kill the shit you linked. All Thaum is doing is inflating your stats to make what you already have hit harder.
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>>122153728
Pets don't leech any of your EXP anon. They simply gain extra. They gain experience just from walking as well and I'm sure you don't.

They have their entirely own EXP that they gain that isn't scaling from you. You can hit F9 and check their experience.

You can also use an EXP tool to see it for yourself.

I have a level 160 pet and he is worthless to me in level 195 as far as damage goes. I even put a few 100k to all of his main stats, he is however an excellent distraction.

The beauty of these beasts come from the ability of being able to use them on alts. You can literally take your level 160 pet on your level 1 alt and let him grind your character while you sleep or have him 1 shot bosses that would take you 30 minutes of hitting.

It opens up making pure support alts that would otherwise take forever to level as well.

They are the best tools for making alts and this game on release you WILL be making alts for a variety of reasons. I'll list a few:

1. Dungeon runs - they are so limited that it's just best to have multiple characters. This way you can do a dungeon not 2 times a day but 4 times a day for chances of getting rare loot.

2. Shops - Alchemists, Squires, buyout shops.

3. Variety - You can log in a support character your friends / team needs the best. You can log in a character that farms more effectively.

4. Storage - I'm sure the shared storage will be limited as fuck and you will be creating alts to store all the materials you might need.

5. iCoins - it's not confirmed for release, but at least in this beta you earn iCoins by doing all kinds of shit and they are SHARED among all your characters. I would wager that the main game will be the same, except expect the iCoins be worth much less like a STAT reset scroll costing 500 iCoins or something like that.
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>>122158527
>sweaty groin
>scratch it and balls
>minute later, ache in tooth
>introduce index and scratch it
>realize I just sucked my groin sweat
>it wasn't that bad

fuck I think I'm joining the kissquad in ghall.
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>>122159038
How easy/hard is it to level up pets? Can you just grab one from the vendor and walk around in some high level nonaggro zone speed leveling it?
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>cute kitten who I kept running into sends me a friend request
>get moonrunes error when I try to accept
>now she's gone, probably forever this time
Guess I'm in hell
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>>122159217
at least you still have that red haired cutie :)
>>
do you think any girls play this game at all
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>>122159031
Ohh nice.
Too bad we won't have a sorc this time to carry double archer dps.
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>>122159320
Probably
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>>122159315
>he doesn't know
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>>122159180
I don't know.

For me I bought one on my mage at level 70 or so when I first could afford one.

He was disappointing to me. Couldn't do anything. He did level up fast.

10 of my main characters levels later he was around level 50. Still useless to me.

At this point I made a new character and started leveling him. I had the pet level 50 with me at all times and it made the early levels to 50 a breeze. He would keep leveling even when I did low level areas but eventually I cought up to him.

They don't gain any experience from you using cards, but every kill you do seems to give them EXP and the EXP they gain depends on the monster EXP but it doesn't substract it from you or your party at all.

The pet kept up with me as I kept him with at all times and especially in grind prison he leveled the most.
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>>122159217
>not adding them to steam
Why are you people so afraid of making acual bonds beyond the ToS interface.
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>>122159034
>>122158958
Then I think I'll go with elementalist after all.
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>>122159497
No. Fuck you
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>>122159464
w-what?
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4 minutes for Marionette in Gabija
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>>122158814
owh, you are the person that i ask about the secret quest answer
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>>122159321
>>122159031

I partied with you two too, we are on Laima what are the odds.

I was the hoplite btw
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How long would it take me to grind from 75% of 125 to 127 in the mage tower?
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>>122159434
wow what a qt
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its 5 run limit on tenet dungeon right? do the other dungeons have the same limit or are they higher?
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>>122159321
I upgraded to a 120 crossbow with an arde dagger from my level 40 hawk bow so maybe I'll kill things faster now.
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>>122159497
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>>122158837
>xration doujins
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>>122159736
Oh huh thats pretty cool, do you wanna run with us again?
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>>122159497
I was wondering about that. the 'steam group' exists but no one goes to the group chat or anything.

it's not like the in-game whisper chat group is still working, right?
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>>122159861
what a nice time to be alive indeed
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>>122159641
MARIONETTE IS UP IN GABIJA WEST ROXONA
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What are Old Oil Sacks used for?
I've had 6 sitting in my quest items for god knows how long. I obviously missed something a long time ago but I have no idea what.
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>>122160107
I quit the game otherwise I'd join.

Is there a confirmed loot table of Marionette and Dullahan yet? Tosbase doesn't even list the two when I search.
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>>122159921

Not today because I'm exhausted but I'm sure I will be there tomorrow reset time
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I'm not a new recruit.
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>>122160196
do they drop venier/benire
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>>122159635
Kuuko's seiyuu died.
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>>122160418
well at least she's not in jail for cocaine possession
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So I made it to sapper, even with the power of money carrying my ass archer 1 and 2 were still hellishly unfun.

Now I've got to ask, what's the trick sapper?

Stake Stockades are amazing but also not.
See I put one down and every enemy aggros it, immediately rushing to beat the shit out of it.
If I make a mob train to drop stakes on, I get the original 3 hits on them, but no more as I lose the aggro to the stakes.

and I cannot regain the aggro in time to lure enemies back onto the stakes, let alone get the 50,000 enemies the stakes aggro'd on me so I can lure them in.

Generally it seems like I either put down 1 stake to get clumped, then drop the second, then blow them up because I'll never get anything to touch them again.

This seems really, really dumb.
Am I supposed to just conceal the stakes immediately?

Fighting the aggro on my own traps is not fun.
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>>122160262
Alright then, good to have some people to run with.
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>>122160179
That's what I want to know, has to do with constructor chapel
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>>122157550
Just woke up. You got everyone or is there room for a DPS?
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why is no one of you faggots talking about the field boss in tenet chapel 1/2? it literally gives you a quest which gives +5 stamina. How are you retards not on this shit?
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>>122160418
http://myanimelist.net/news/42954746
It's true, FUCK.
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I need this.
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>>122160107
>>122160196
>>122151709
>>122151759
Thanks /tosg/, love you
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>>122160858
Just farm earth archon
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>>122160797
who cares, she is probably sucking dicks in hell

people still watch nyaruku? wasn't that shit canceled?
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Are there any more evasion adding leather armor other thank the Mark set? Im reaching 120 and still have not seen anything.
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Anyone around level 60 on the huehue server wanna level with me?
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Is the Monk class similar to the one in ragnarok? That was my favourite class to play.
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>>122158741
Thaum is one of the worst classes in the game. None of their buffs scale which makes them near useless once you start reaching the point where people crit for 4-5k since all they do is add another 400-500 on top of that. I'm fairly sure a pyro3 dropping flame grounds and the odd fireball would generate more group dps than a thaum ever would.

Also, link3 ultimate support when you pull large packs. The extra damage you gain from going 5 to 10 links is crazy, as is the extra damage from more mobs being packed together.
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>>122161067
>all they do is add another 400-500
That's 10% desu senpai
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>>122160535
you make a train of mobs and then manually place the stockades on top of them

thats it. Just treat it like a fireball.

sapper 1 is not very good, its broom trap that you go sapper for. the stockades are just kind of there to give you a way to actually kill stuff. I want to believe claymores worth 300 silver
but it really isnt

archer 1 shouldnt have been so bad, archers basically a ranged swordsman at lower levels
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>>122160535
aggroed stake will not hit enemies?
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>>122160717
There's room
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This might sound stupid, but is the statue at Zachariel Crossroads working?
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harpeia up gabija prison d2 second room
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Why
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>no vubbe fighter blood
im crying rn
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>>122161179
Nope, enemies will walk up to the stake and start smacking it, they'll get close but not close enough for it to actually hurt them.

It feels like sapper is supposed to be a tank class, I pull all the enemies and have them attack other shit and do it very well.

Like my traps are aggro beacons, not actual traps.
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>>122161369
Tree of Memes
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So, what am I suposse to do here?
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>>122161067
>once you start reaching the point where people crit for 4-5k since all they do is add another 400-500 on top of that.

with maxed attributes thaums give +650 attack power. During a crit this is effective.y 975 extra damage
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>>122161369
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>>122161461
keyboard mode
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>>122161461
You need some flowers.
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>open beta happens
>playing it non-stop for the first couple of days
>slowly start tapering off, not because the game is boring, but server stability literally kills the mood
>barely hit 60 and ran the chapel dungeon once
>no one wants to party, no one wants to run dungeons
>chats and friend lists are still down

fuck, i thought i was going to binge for a full 30 days, but ive barely put half a week into this game, What do to regain fervor?
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>>122161461
Spacebar, if you have the quest.
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>>122158191
Turn Undead and Restoration can be crafted too, if you went under the Paladin route

Thanks for nothing
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>>122161529
watching my character shake her hips when she walks does it for me
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>>122156018
what am I looking at, cant find a quest on those marked spots? (besides the sealed soul thingy)
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paging 175 memers
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Needs key
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>>122161373
that sucks
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>>122158491
>>122160717
Where are you two at?
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>>122161525
>>122161567
Yeah It was the keyboard mode
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how do you exit a dungeon without warping out or relogging
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>the monster showed no response to the food scraps
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>>122161804
I just got outside the instance.
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Fuck them for making the concentrate and gung ho attributes 4 minutes.

What the fuck am I supposed to do in 4 minutes
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>>122161492
Yeah it's not as bad as people are saying it is.

I'm pretty sure it's the other way around, once you're using rank 7/8 skills, most of the shit skills you acquired from rank 1-6 will have very low base damage and won't be worth using, while your rank 7/8 skills will be getting some extra damage, not to mention extra damage to the whole team and the bonus might be more considerable with multihit skills.

Thaum isn't bad, it's just bad if there's already another one in the team, and the class doesn't seem popular enough for that to happen.

It's priest what I'm worried about in regards of fixed bonus, blessing is super OP the first 100 levels, but I really don't see it being relevant at 250+ unless everyone is getting like 5+ types of damage on all their hits.
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>>122161370
mine took 3ish hours
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>>122161630
nvm Im blind
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Does anyone feel like doing some lvl 100 party missions? heard you can get some slick hats
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>>122161370
>>122162151
Might as well just farm silver and buy it from somebody
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>>122161706
how do you bring this up in game?
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>>122162023
Rub one out.
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>>122162023
>4 minutes

hahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>122162295
/indun
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>>122162116
I don't know how many ranks Blessing and +Dmg on Heal has, but i can't imagine myself ever not using these intro level spells
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Swordsman outfit > Highlander or Barbarian.

There, I said it.
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>>122159038
Your 160 pet is useless on 190 content because level difference makes a gigantic difference for damage formulas. As long as your pet is equal to or higher than the content they're great.
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>>122161972
I'll come pick you up then
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>Get invited to a 130 dung run
>Hoplite/Cata
>Corsairs only
>Get kicked

Welp.
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>tenet dungeon instance cap didnt reset for me, still 5/5
why?
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any alchemists around? could use some gem roasting, pls.
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>>122162401
I love how the pants is tight too
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>>122162479
because you have enough talt
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Is Trinity + Kachara meme real or something you niggas trying to force in shout?
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>>122162465
They only want Corsairs?
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>>122162116
I see blessing as more of a level gainer at that point.
The Priest skills that'll carry over the most, at least what I think, will be resurrect revive and sacrament.
Sacrament if just for the fact that it seems like 80% of mobs in the game are weak to holy.
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>>122162479
>>122162529
actually i just had to relog, for some reason
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>>122162401
Thanks for stating the obvious
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>>122162479
Because you finished your last run while the server was resetting lmao you got fucked
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>>122162401
You're right. tight pants > pantsu flash tbqh senpai
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>>122162562
Please no, I need that dagger for my Rogue. Meme dagger prices are high enough.
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>>122161591
Im literally rerolling at level 178 because of this shit
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What are some decent cards for sorc? Need something to use while I look for Templeshooter.
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>>122162661

>>122162624
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>>122162710
Where do you even get the crossbow and dagger recipes from anyway?
>>
so what makes the memedagger better than the generic daggers that raise attack power?

I can see for a mage or something since the +fire damage adds on to every attack, but wouldnt classes that do physical damage get the same benifit from raw +attack power from the generic 120 daggers?
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>>122162834
They are mostly the same. I liked chapparition personally. His auto attack has a pretty large range.
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>>122162986
Only cursoirs and rogues. Both at c2. Both at rank 6. Both lvl 170+. There is kuracha there. Meme is only meme till level 170.
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>>122162465
Corsair is the new Memelander / BRarian.

Get with the times.
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>>122162795
I was planning on going Cleric-Priest2-Paladin2 and pardoner 1

whats a good auto-attacking cleric circle for final rank?
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>>122163101
>Corsair is the new Memelander / BRarian.
wew
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>he chose Kiritosair
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So umm...what one-handed weapon do use at Lv 120+?
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>>122162626
Thighlander > Swordy > Barb in cuteness
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>>122163252
Now this is a funky fresh meme
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How to make bokor balanced?
Samediveve and Ogouveve now buff your party as well.
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>>122163441
Make conga line work on your party members too.
>>
What stats are worth upgrading for your pet? They all seem to cost a fuckton for a tiny improvement.
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comfy
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>>122163526
Don't waste your money
>>
Is anything more satisfying than killstealing from a swashbuckler who think they own the map?
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>>122163526
And that is why you only use them as a mount.
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>people think corsair is good for their flag
>they think it's a 25% bonus damage and double drop rate
wew
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>>122163654
>people think corsair is good
wew
>>
>>122163526
see >>122159038
>>
>grind legwyn to 140
>grind dungeon from 140~165

RIP
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>>122159038
How do you even transfer pet to the alt?
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>Jolly Roger provides an AoE buff around the flag which gives the buff 'Jolly Roger' and 'Looting'.

>'Looting' provides a small chance to drop money (and sometimes item drops, but this is rare) from enemies per hit. This occurs with both normal attack hits and skills (not sure about Magic, but Physical skills do trigger Looting). 'Jolly Roger' provides bonus damage when you perform kills in quick succession. You have 5 seconds to kill a mob when the combo counter comes up to keep the combo going. Each kill resets the counter to 5 seconds. At the max combo, the buff lasts for 10 seconds and kills no longer refresh the timer.

>Each kill gives 5 additional damage according to the tooltip. Based on my own experiences, it's not +5% damage per combo as we've seen from older videos, but actually just flat additional damage, the increase is very small, usually rising by 2-3 extra damage per combo. The additional damage isn't reflected in stats either. It also affects both skills and auto-attacks.

>Each level of Jolly Roger increases the flag's duration by 10 seconds and also raises the max combo count by 1. So at Level 1, the max combo is 10 kills in a row, then 11 at Level 2, etc.

so basically the flag is pretty shit and the only reason you even go this shitty class is to C2 it and gimp yourself our of actually good classes.... so you can be a literal Kirito?

how embarassing
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>>122163810
But dungeon doesnt give any exp at all starting 154.
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>>122163557
>>122163757
Ahh thanks, might be worth levelling its HP/def/mdef a bit though so it can sort of tank for you.
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>>122163876
In the character selection screen. There's a small arrow next to the pets portrait that points right. Click on that to put the pet into "storage". Then his name will be on the right. Click on the pet on the right and assign him to the alt.

Now your overpowered buffed pet will accompany said alt at all times.
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>>122163526
>>122164017
but they seems to be good in power levelling low level characters >>122159038
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>>122159038
>alts to run dungeons
game confirmed for casual if it lets you progress fast enough to have multiple characters at the leading edge of the progression wave
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>>122163102
Dont know what exactly stacks with it, but im sure sadu would be fantastic.
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>>122164087
I see, i did not bother with pets. Just wondereing.
>>
>running around town
>accidentally enter highlander's place
>remember there being an achievement for breaking his training dummy
>do it
>only get a quest to repair it
>finish that
>tired, decide to take a break and leave my character in Highlander's house
>people coming in and out
>a lot of them speak BR
I'm getting cancer here
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>>122164171
>leading edge
>people still farming the 90 dungeon every day for the meme dagger
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>>122164171
its easy enough to level to 50 in this beta, and some people i saw do this at level 90 dungeon.
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sword>pelt>???
Pick the rest for me tosg
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>>122163963
This is b8
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>>122164389
sword>pelt>plet>rodel>rodel>rodel
>>
I've got a build that uses Linker and Cryo C3, and I'm not sure what to get for rank 6. Would psycho still be worth getting by that point or would it be way too late to be of much use?
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>>122164404
C2 Corsair here. It's true actually. The flag is pretty garbage and not worth it at all. The only reason we went C2 was because in the last iCBT anons posted a ton of Korean videos of overpowered Corsair videos and a lot of us anons vouched if we get in we'll be rolling them because we wanted OP.

The flag got nerfed hard and it was needed. However our duel wield kirito abilities are still overpowered as fuck so why should we care about the flag?
>>
What's Vubbe Fighter Blood even used for to make it so expensive? I got one while grinding in the mines on an alt, and I'm not sure if I should keep it or sell it.
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>>122164647
the best gloves in the game
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>>122164647
Vubbe fighter gauntlets
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>>122164389
don't listen to >>122164494

sword>pelt>hop>hop>cor>cor

there, have fun with kiritosairs
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>>122163980
Talking about demon prison
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>>122164596
I thought some anon mentioned that Corsairs were scheduled for flag buffs soon.
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>>122164596
Thats why im calling bait, he is saying that the entire corsair class is shit because of a shitty ability, specially considering that everyone knows that you go corsair for hexen and DWA
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>Druid looks mildly interesting
>One good skill, only other decent one is mind controlling for a meat shield
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>>122164647
Keep it because the market has been eating peoples' items.
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>>122164670
>>122164686
Ahh, alright. I think I'll hold onto it in that case, thanks!
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Game was running fine last night, wake up this morning game crashes every 2 minute. Reinstalled 4 times it still happen. send help
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>>122164808
Corsair is bound to be nerfed in the future. That or all other classes buffed. My guess is Corsair will be moved up to be a rank 6 class just like Doppel / Fencer.

Right now there is no reason to go any other class than Corsair as it is the best melee damage dealer in the game.

Fact.

Nerfs are needed.
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>watch video of new class
>they still can't fucking overkill enemies like BRabarians doo throughout the whole game

noice balance
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>>122164687
I'm in Korea CBT and everyone there builds Rodelero 3.
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>>122165195
>over kill is the ONLY thing that matters
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>>122165195
>muh overkill
I'd love to see 5 BRbarians try to do any dungeon at their level
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>>122165267

>Up to 350% exp from mob kills in a game where grinding mobs is inevitable at points and highly advantageous at others
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>>122165267
It wouldn't matter so much if EXP isn't a pain to grind.
Probably don't matter to Koreans anyways since they get all the leveling events to get them to endgame with no effort.
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>>122151045
/kiss TeamName
W H E N I M C
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you faggots discussing corsair are forgetting it locks you into dual wielding

Basic end game itemization will make them shit/broken, if you're a dual wielder, you're probably going to be stuck with shinobi as a follow up, unless you want to gear up with different weapons and change shit all the time, which is annoying as fuck.

If the best weapons are 2h spears or 2h swords, suddenly corsair stops being so OP.
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>>122165430
literally every thread you whine about barbarians

don't you ever get tired of being this retarded?
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>>122165561
You can already kiss, and it has to be consensual.
You want kiss rape?
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Will I be able to make it to rank 5 by the end of the beta if I'm level 62 atm and am unable to nolife it?
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>>122165616

Never posted about barbarians before, but if one class has the sole ability to consistently overkill it either forces you to grind with one or play one to get any reasonable efficiency.

Frankly the better fix is to either make over-kills purely a drop-rate buff or severely slash the exp bonus.
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>>122154068
>>122153589
Does bless procs with every element?
>from set
>from memedagger
>from ice necklace
Really? That shit is really that good?
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>>122165854
no
it only procs on extra hits
cryolight necklace doesn't give you an extra hit
memedagger doesn't give you an extra hit
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>>122158854
Only if you party Kyuu first.
I'm sorry, anon.
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>>122165854
Elements just increase you damage number but don't activate blessing. Cafrisun bonus is a bit different and actually adds a second hit to your attacks, which does activate blessing/concentrate + any elements you have.
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>>122165576
> kiritosairs > shinobi
welp, shinobi will be the new meme during obt.
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>>122165727
Yes. Just follow the questline + side quests at gytis until you hit 90. At 90 do the zachariel crossroads dungeon until you get to 100+. And then continue questing. Should be able to get to rank 5 easy. But the wall is getting to 130 after that.
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>>122165839

Never posted about clerics before, but if one class has the sole ability to consistently heal it either forces you to grind with one or play one to get any reasonable efficiency.

Frankly the better fix is to either make heals purely a potion buff or severely slash the damage we receive.
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>>122165576

Please have played the game beyond the tutorial before you post!

Two-handers are total garbage in this game, they direct to trash tier the moment you hit 75 and can start wielding daggers.
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Shit, partying in this game feels really good. Especially if you find decent players and balanced pt roster.
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>>122162401
Peltasta > every until squifu
>>
Haven't been here in a week.

I'm finally a corsair after going Hoplite C2.

Why the fuck are corsairs a meme now? Also, the hook sounds pretty cool for duels.
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>>122166115
>if one class has the sole ability to consistently heal
There are potions for a reason. Any class can heal even without a cleric.
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>>122166098

No, corsairs are going to be templars.

Templar is a swordsman class, and they'll be the first ones to rank 7 and thus all the first guilds will be 2sword/2barb/2cors/templar founded.
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>>122166115
I admit, I fucking chuckled. Well done anon.
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>>122158854
there has to be a secret to farm the exp cards from these
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>>122166109
At what base level do you get to rank 5? 125?
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>>122165576
I swap between Spear + Dagger and Spear + Shield and that works much better than Memelanders 2H swords.
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>>122166115
I remember that one guys suggesting to give barbs life steal on the forums
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>>122166195

The hook snares enemies in an aoe despite the demo video on tosbase making it look single target.

It's great for farming groups of plate type mobs with keel hauler.
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>>122165576
It would make no sense. How would a pirate suddenly become a ninja
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>>122166419
There will be life steal. Not as a class thing but as an amulet.
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>>122166162
>mfw I was the linker with you in group earlier

Dat icewall Psychic Pressure combo. Sucks that the cd is so high on Ice Wall.
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>>122166308
Around the end of 127
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guys, i never play swordman before so i wanna try the most op swordman build before beta end.

which one is OP?

sword > sword > barb > ?
or
sword > high > barb > ?
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>>122166162
Do you still get exp at 69? I left at 67 and is now 71
>>
I SWEART MAIN CHAMBER IS THE MSOT FRUSTRATING SHIT IN THE GAME.

WANT TO PLAY? NO YOU CAN'T, HERE IS YOUR FROZEN, FUCK YOU.
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>>122166628
I bet you haven't reached Grand Corridor yet
>>
>memesters still trying to argue that 2H can possibly ever be better than meme dagger in this game
wew
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>>122166628
If it doesn't freeze you, it has 500k hp and runs at you and spins for 10k damage
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>>122166996
>meme dagger gets nerfed
woopa durpa durp, your class path suddenly becomes garbage
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>>122158191
>a class being useless in TOS
who would've thought
How are so many classes completely fucking worthless or non-functional to the point where there's absolutely no reason to play them, AND they're going to add like 20 more classes before release?

oh also, open beta next month please look forward to it :^))))))))

What the fuck are wrong with these devs? Do they want to kill their game by rushing it out the door completely unfinished and broken so that no one plays it? Did devs not learn this after seeing other MMO's do this 5000000000 times in the past decade?

For fucks sake.
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>>122167114
>implying itll get nerfed
WEW
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where the lv 175 dungeon at? pls advise
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>>122167114
>Implying meme dagger is even the best dagger
Karacha wrecks your shit.
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>>122167114
>meme dagger gets buffed
>meme dagger v2 gets introduced and is lvl 120
Hey man. I can play that game too
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>>122166558
Valerie, right?

Yeah, ice wall + pressure melts everything. And ith link it's overkill. 1-2 seconds and EVERYTHING is dead. Cryokino is basically nuker with crowd control. Hope they won't nerf it and add some useless class I will be able to skip to get linker as well.

>>122166616
Yes. Doing more quests right now with some other group.
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>>122166115
Did I go back to middle school ign forums where people think making replies like this is funny?
fuck off
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>>122167231
it's literally the same as meme dagger and you won't gain much more than a few stats more

what are you talking about anon? it's literally the same dagger and most people wont make it to replace arde at all because why bother?
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>>122167325
you're literally the only one who sounds like a middle schooled here anon

not even him but fuck off retard
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>>122167315
Uncanny
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>>122167315
Sorceress Master is that you?
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>>122167261
Going cryokino linker? Does that work well?
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the only thing worth saying
>open beta
over is the fact that as a highlander i can literally cause an entire mapfull of players to crash their game with a single ability
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>>122152815
>linear grinding game
Never in my entire life have I seen a game combine linear and grinding together

Just what the fuck?

Why can't we level however the fuck we want and explore the world however we want? Why do we need to follow a mandatory pre-determined path through the leveling experience that NEVER CHANGES SO LEVELING ALTS IS GOING TO BE NEGATIVE FUN.

These devs need to learn what the fuck they're doing, because that shit isn't fun and this game will die.
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>>122167354
Karacha Dagger is better for melees, where as Arde Dagger is better for mages.

Karacha Dagger adds +33 Crit Rate alone (+11 DEX and +20 Crit awakened), plus the bonus Damage vs. Medium, plus the fact it's a decent melee weapon. It's better for any melee without a good source of Pierce damage (i.e. Monk) than Arde Dagger is.

Arde Dagger's awakening option adds +34 M.Atk, small but provides something for mages.
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>>122167612
Does the Pierce damage automatically hit or do I have to hit them with the dagger itself?
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>>122167508
cryokinoelenecrolinker. But that's in the future maybe. In beta I'll just go
cryo > kino > ele > ele > necro
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>>122166962
>>122167052
I should've listened

>Frozen by 500 damage magic attacks
>Some motherfucker comes and hits me for 1500

What's the fuckign use of plate armor if everything kills me anyway.

I'll reset and go full con as a memesair.
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>>122167680
You have to hit them with the dagger itself to apply the Pierce-type damage. If you hold down the subweapon attack button and move forward with a dagger, you stab slightly faster as well. It's a pretty decent weapon.

Plus, if you're a C2 Rogue, the set bonus with Karacha Crossbow is crazy.

Upgrading to Karacha Dagger from Arde Dagger if you're a STR-based character is always a good idea.
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>>122167612
its funny you had to go all nerd on me to prove the minute differences of

a 75 dagger

versus

a 170 dagger

my point is that in this game itemization is pure retard and the developers are retarded gooks who have no fucking clue what they are doing

face the facts anon, your kiritos are riding solely on the on the edge of being a pure gimmick shit class that has to abuse every broken or retarded item to come on top

it's like the devs have full autism

I predict fast death for this game when it hits open beta. no player with self respect is going to play a game this broken for long and you know it.
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>>122166607
anyone?
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>>122167905
I can do well as a Corsair even using a fucking Dirk.

Corsair is better than your meme BRian class, deal with it.
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>>122168002
>BRian
who are you quoting anon? I don't even play swordie retard.
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>>122168154
You realize that you started a discussion with someone talking about 2H swords vs dual wielding?

Are you a retard?
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>>122168234
You realize that I'm not him yet or are you this retarded?

Are you retarded?

Retard.
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133 with 51 lvl 6 cards. I wanna use them so bad.
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>>122168234
and yet your only argument is
>hur this item that breaks the game makes pretty much anyone who doesn't dual wield auto attack inferior and useless, this will never ever change! kiritosairs will forever be the best class in the history of mmo games!

Yeah keep dreaming, IMC may be incompetent, but your hopes and dreams will fall short if you think a single overpowered item will pretty much nullify the entire game forever..
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>>122168002
>Corsair
>not a meme
fucking Kiritosairs in denial
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>>122168321
You realize you're butting into an argument that has shit to do with whatever you were saying then?
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>>122166628
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zIW0629PUo

you need to chill out
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>Dual wielding is now associated with fucking Kirito

Can't I be a fucking dual wielding pirate without the retarded memes?
>>
I want to make an archer and drag everyone down every time I join a group. How should I build it?
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>>122168626
archer3 scout3
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>>122168451
>but your hopes and dreams will fall short if you think a single overpowered item will pretty much nullify the entire game forever..
But I just said that the class works even with a goddamn Dirk, didn't you read?
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>>122168491
You literally have brain damage anon if you think itemization had nothing to do with what you were talking about.

It seems like all Kiritosairs are literal retards who simply copy pasted their builds and now think they are the hottest shit.

You are an absolute retard, do you realize this? Also you're posting on an open forum you fucking nigger where everyone can point out your flawed logic and tell you how much of a retard you are.

Retard.

Come back when you actually have something to add to the chain you replied to them and stop whining like a little bitch about when someone "butts in".
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>>122161279

It is bugged for me ever since I first visited it.
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>>122168705
>dirk is better than arde dagger

confirmed retard
>>
Is there any doppel anon here?
If yes, what was your class path, do you use meme dagger?
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>>122168757
It seems you're upset that you were talking shit completely unrelated to the 2H vs Dagger discussion.

I'm also not even a corsair, but a Hoplite, but it seems Corsairs make you unstable and unable to make an argument reasonably, as you seem to have an obsession with them, something typical of someone on the autism spectrum, maybe you should check yourself.
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>>122169005
it seems you're retarded and don't read people's posts entirely and continue to shit post

just stop posting and kill yourself retard
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for the past 3 fuckings days ive been putting items on the market place.

everyday i check if my shit is gone. first day, gone. second day? gone. third day today, fucking gone.

im done with this buggy as fuck market.
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>>122168920
I didn't say that though.

I said that Corsairs didn't need the meme dagger, as the dual wield auto attack works well even with a dirk (which is an inferior item).
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>>122169053
>Being this upset at corsairs
holy shit, you're a literal retard
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>>122169057
Why the hell is that even happening
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>+150 fire damage

turns into

>150 physical damage, min and max
>150 ice damage
>150 holy damage
>150 magic damage
>can crit despite being magic
>increases all sources of damage, no matter what it is

people who say this is not bugged are literal autistic retards
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>>122168971
There was one doppel who went sword > high > barb > barb > barb > doppel I think. He was using 2h sword. Said spinning skill is must have.

Also where are the ToS replays saved? Are they those *.rep fles? Does ToS have some built-in player so i could watch them later and make webms?
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>>122169151
>>122169218
>those times between posts
we all know who is the one upset here
>>
So what's the deal with beta keys atm? Is there even a slim chance of someone gifting you one or is better just to wait for the next beta giveaway (which is when?)

I've been signed up for a while to no avail.
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Since I'm too poor to afford arde dagger and I'm almost 120, can i still use the 120 dagger and get a damage boost as pyro?
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>>122169313
It is bugged, but it doesn't explain all this salt about Corsairs.

What the fuck, I'm gone for a week and it goes from barbs and Memelanders being shitters to Corsairs being hated, even though they were being called shit by 2H users.
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>>122167773
Fuck that map.
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>>122169431
They gave them to everyone. Then they had a draw like a week ago and gave out more. You have no chance until this beta ends and another begins. Could be OBT this December like Korea.
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>>122168403
Use them cause either way the only exp cards worth keeping is 7 and 8 even then 7 not so much.

You can skip the whole 130~135 wall if you do that.
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>>122169469
Corsairs are memelanders anon. Many Barbarians went Corsair since Seism and Frenzy work well with Corsair.

Corsair IS a meme.
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>>122169469
People were so busy shitposting here that they only just now got past the 2nd and 3rd circle levels, only to realize that Highlanders and Barbarians really weren't all that amazing at all. Naturally, they started hating Corsairs next.
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>>122169413
Yeah, they're totally the same discussion right?
Oh wait, they aren't.
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>>122169593
>7 not so much.
the 8's alone will not be enough to get you from 165-175, you need 7s and 8s, and you need a lot of them
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>>122169571
So I basically just signed up too late? Are there any extras floating around still or does nobody give them away anymore.
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>>122169664
>shitposting here that they only just now got past the 2nd and 3rd circle levels, only to realize that Highlanders and Barbarians really weren't all that amazing at all.
wew
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>>122169634
I'm a Peltasta>Hoplite C2 > Corsair though, well shit, I hope the shitposting subsides.
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>>122169753
Nobody really gives them away and they're selling at a price that's way too expensive for a bugged as shit beta that will last another week and a half. Just look forward to the next opportunity.
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>>122169664
Hi, Doppel here. Level 200 and in the top 10 of my server.

I hit harder than any Corsair. Even those in Rank 6.

I don't even need broken game mechanics to do this.

Have a nice day anon.

Don't get too stuck up in your own anus.

Or we won't invite you to parties.
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>My arde dagger sold in the market
>All it got me was four more levels to enhance double punch

This shit is really getting expensive.
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>>122169885
That's nice? I was just pointing out why the bitching suddenly shifted from Highlanders and Barbs to Corsairs, not sure what crawled up your ass.
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LMAO MEMEDAGGER USER XD WITH MEMEING MY CLASS IN TREE OF MEMES SO MEME! XD MEMELANDER MEMECARDS MEMESAIR XD LMAO AYYY DID YOU KNOW MEME?????????????? XDD MEMECLASS FOR MEMEPLAYERS XD ARE YOU GUYS MEME YET IN THIS AWESOME MEMEGENERAL?
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>>122168626
Play archer.

Actually though, if you want to deny yourself the only value of archers (single target dps), go:
Archer>quarrel shooter>sapper>hunter>scout>schwarze reiter. Archer c3 gets level 15 multishot, which is the archers highest damaging skill all the way to rank 6, so avoid it like the plague lest you become even the slightest bit useful.
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>>122168626
Quarrel without a shield + Hunter without a pet.
>>
any oracle on gabija willing to help me get some mats?
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>>122169995
>implying barbs literally arent the strongest class in the game
weeeeeeeeeew
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>>122170070
nice meme
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>>122169885
Holy shit calm your autism.

How can anyone be so upset at a class in a fucking MMO.
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>>122170214
>bubble
I thought all GMs were named after fruit.
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>>122170214
xD
>>
>>122169448

No, the thing about Arde Dagger is the +153 Fire Attack it adds.
>>
>male memesair with pink hair
Auto blacklist
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>>122170214
>lollol
>XD

I swear the GMs in this game and the staff are full fucking autistic.
>>
Would 140 be high enough to easily solo the level 50 dungeon?
>>
Memes aside, as a Corsair, how do I use the hook? The attribute says I can hook 3 monsters but I can hardly hook one.
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>>122170503
I solo'd it at 90 as a Hoplite, but I went and rushed the boss.
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>>122169313
Same thing goes for blessing

I just assume the damage from arde and blessing are added after all damage calcs
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>>122170503
You can solo the 90 at 140
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>>122169885
[citation needed]

webm or get fucked
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>>122170760
You are wrong
If only i could remember who the fuck is this person
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>>122170846
Blessing is.

Arde isn't.

Arde is applied at the base. This is why melee prefer it. It literally changes their 1H swords and spears by adding 150 to their minimum and maximum damage making their 1H swords and spears hit as hard as 2H weapons.

It's broken.

Not going to be fixed in this beta.

If not fixed in open or release, it will be a deal breaker for a lot of people.
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>>122171062
server?
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>>122171126
>>122171062

gabija
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>>122170214
I gave her the usual gib money gm line and then went into the dungeon.
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>>122171098
>fixed this fixed that
Isnt this just more damage for less defense? Whats up with the constant bitching against arde?

>using 2 weapons make you hit just as hard as someone wielding a 2h weapon
Whats so broken about that?
>>
Can anyone recommend me what to spec on Sorc c1?
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>>122171285
this is bait
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>>122169593
>>122169709

So burning through these lvl 6 cards would be ok?
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/so-whats-the-weakness-of-warrior-classes/116389/13

So, what is their weakness, tosg?
>>
Does anyone know if we have this (what I presume) area boss, and where it spawns ?

http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/41426/

Checked the market for said weapons and saw none.
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>>122169313
Just got mine. I really wanted to see what the meme was all about.

Holy crap that damage boost.
>>
Which one is more useful, linker3 or Thaum2?
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>>122171479
late game enemies spamming homing magic and ice and I guess chain stuns
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>>122171482

I think this is not in game yet. I was looking for the pike myself but no one responded on the shouts.
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>>122170263
they were, but GM mango got fired, and this retard didn't know the clique's meme
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>>122171560
I think that's everyone's weakness
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>>122171437
you still dont want to use them unless youre at a part of the game where grinding isnt effective. but you wont need them for the 165-175 as long as you get all the 7s and 8s if thats what youre asking
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>>122171329
No, really. Explain how using an arde is OP. The whole idea of 1handed weapons is that you get extra defense via shields. I dont understand how you keep bitching about arde when using 2 weapons for more damage is just the same as using a 2handed weapon

>>122171482
I think I saw that in the 2nd merc dungeon or whatever its called. Go to mercenary house in Fedimian and talk to the south npc near the stairs.

I'm not sure if bosses there(with the exception of the very last one) drop items though. They always seem to just drop silver
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>>122171694
this is a retard
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>>122169057
Anyone on Gabija have a Battle Bracelet?
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>>122171745
>he doesnt have an arde
I can taste your salt
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>>122171532

Yes as said, it is broken.

Enjoy the overpowered damage.

It's literally now so well known of a meme that people are desperately trying to convince anons it isn't and is well balanced and intented.
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>>122171745
He's right, using 2 weapons should be as powerful as using a 2H weapon, as you're trading defense for damage.

It's pretty basic balancing.
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>>122171836
>overpowered
It's not overpowered, it's literally the same as using a 2H weapon.

It would be overpowered if you could do it while wielding a shield, but you can't.
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>>122171836
I'm eating eggs while reading this post.

Thanks for the salt
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>>122171820
talt*
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>>122171062
I'll come if you're still up for it
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>>122171574
>but GM mango got fired
Why?
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>>122171675

Again, I'm @ 133 and every 120 run so far has given me a level and a half. Perhaps, its just me being lazy but I want to get to rank 7 in a smooth way. I don't mind grinding but as what you've mentioned, the areas are not cost-effective and I have yet to receive any lvl 7-8 cards
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>>122171872
>>122172000
Not intended and broken.

It will be fixed by release.

See >>122169313
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>>122172116
yea i'm still up for it. i'm inside now.
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>>122169313
>>122172228
Where does it say its "magic"?
>inb4 fire therefore magic
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>>122172228
>Game has offhand weapon instead of shield to increase damage
>Damage increase is not intended, its a bug i swear guys
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TO ANY NON-SWORDSMAN PLAYER:

We should strike. Linkers, don't link for BRbarians, alchemist, don't enhance gems or make pots for Memelanders. Clerics, Krivis, Priests, don't heal or buff Kiritorsairs. Archers, don't play.

We need to let IMC know we are not OK with how underpowered our classes are compared to Swordsmens'. This needs to change now.
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>>122170214
Thanks for the repairs squire
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Arde/Karacha is boosting the damage on Bwa Kayiman (Physical) if Hexing (-Mdef) is up.

I don't get how/why this works but Hexing boosting the damage by almost 30%.
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>>122169313
well shit that does seem broken as fuck. how can anyone defend this? it would make sense if it was a separate instance of damage if you hit with the sub weapon but if it does that that is fucking broken. even RO didn't have shit this stupid. if that increased fire spell damage it would still be fine but if it increases white physical of the main hand weapon it's broken as fuck.

no wonder you faggots drool over this weapon
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>>122172480
>archers, don't play

;_;
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>>122172480
Yeah!

> Linkers, don't link for BRbarians,
W-what if my friend went barbarian?

>Archers, don't play.
kek
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What level should you start doing mage tower?
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>>122172459
it doesn't say magic you literal retard

however it increases damage of all sources

are you fucking retarded? you just proved his point moron >>122169313
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>>122172480
It's okay, you didn't include me in that so I can just do as I've always done
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>>122172528
Nice samefag, faggot.

Cant capitalize your sentences on that mobile?

>RO didnt have broken shit like this
>what are assassin cross using dual daggers
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>>122171536
Please respond
I want to help the barbarians in the best way possible for my class
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Brasilians and chinese are the scum of this game.
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>>122172479
Are you retarded?

If it said

>150 physical damage

it would be fine, but it fucking says FIRE damage you fucking moron. kill yourself
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>>122172228
The damage from other elements is broken.

But increasing damage by having an offhand weapon equipped makes a lot of fucking sense.
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>>122172590
>using 2 handed weapons increases all damage sources is fine
>using 2 weapons to increase all damage sources is broken

>blessing does the same thing
>the salty faggot says its perfectly fine

>says it should not be critting because its magic
>"lol just kiddings, its not really magic XDDD"
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Linkers are a meme
>shared buffs get cancelled because they fill up all the slots
>can't use physical link in dungeons because everyone will just die
>lifeline can't be up 100% and relies on everyone having different builds in Tree of DexBuilds, and even if they did have different builds it wouldn't matter to the other classes much that anyway(why would a wiz want a swordie's STR?)
Hangman and penalty are basically the only good skills so linker is actually only useful every 30 seconds.

>mfw people save party slots up for linkers
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>>122172480
>Thaum not even mentioned
I like the way you think, what a fucking useless class I rolled.
Time to roll a memelander.
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>>122172615
here's your (you)
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>>122172480
But it is not by my hand that there are no other viable classes on the way to Fencer
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>>122172528
>even RO didn't have shit this stupid.
>Ice Pick online
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>>122172228
Good thing I am a pyro.
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>>122172761

>only useful every 30 seconds

that's more than half the classes can say. see archers, quarrel shooters, wizards, chronomancers, dievdirbys, etc.
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>>122172761
>Hangman and penalty are basically the only good skills so linker is actually only useful every 30 seconds.

Hangman has 10s and joint has 15s cd though.
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>>122172752
>blessing does the same thing
except it doesnt you retard

>>122172716
>it's broken
>but it's not
You're a literal retard anon. if you equip a sub weapon you can use it by hitting C.

This is how Arde should work
>hit C
>hits for its shit physical +150 fire damage, reduced by monster MDef and elemental defences

It shouldn't directly increase your main hand weapon at all. AT ALL. Unless you're a Corsair C2 who has an ability to hit with both weapons at once, the fire damage shouldn't be a must for every class in the game.

The game has two buttons for the two weapons you faggot. stop being this fucking retarded my fucking god you guys are literally gone full batshit insane defending a bugged mechanic and I don't know if I'm being baited hard or you guys are desperately lying to yourselves.

>>122172876
For Pyro it makes sense. For everything else it doesn't. People are defending a broken mechanic and going full retard about 2H versus 1H+Sub. I didn't even mention 2H but they are bringing up irrelevant shit to try and stir up shit.

You fucking win though. If this was "i was just pretending to be retarded" congrats you won.

You can't seriously defend the idea that ONE ITEM is a MUST for EVERY CLASS in the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME is WORKING AS INTENTED.
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>>122172942
Why are statue bitches aka dievdirbys useless? aren't the -SP and -CD statues really good?
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What's the best way to level gems?
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so I'm guessing there's not a good spot for a level 170 to grind with 0 cards, is there? is it time to abandon the character?
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>stop killing things so I can have an easier time killing them

People these days
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>>122172705
>Dagger gives fire damage
>Fire is a bug and should be removed
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>>122173172
second demon prison
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>>122173084
>if you equip a sub weapon you can use it by hitting C.
So? Whats so broken about that, retard

>ONE ITEM is a MUST for EVERY CLASS
Or you know, just use a 2handed weapon since it does the same damage
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>>122173179
What class was he playing?
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>>122172480
How about you shut the fuck up and think of a way to make yourself useful to your Barb-god instead of being a freeloading liability.
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>>122173105
Yes, they're great. If the statues would just work as intended.
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>>122173084

They should just make Arde Dagger into an Amulet and just say "Increase all damage by 150" so everyone can use it.

But if you saw an item that said that you would scream overpowered.
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>>122173084
>You can't seriously defend the idea that ONE ITEM is a MUST for EVERY CLASS in the ENTIRE FUCKING GAME is WORKING AS INTENTED.

ARE YOU A FUCKING RETARD? EVERYONE KNOWS THE DAMAGE CALC FOR THE ARDE DAGGER IS BROKEN, THAT'S NOT THE POINT, THE POINT IS THAT USING A SUBWEAPON SHOULD INDEED GIVE YOU MORE DAMAGE THAN NOT USING IT, AS IT'S THE EXACT SAME TRADEOFF AS USING A 2H WEAPON.
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>>122173239
I think by timing he meant using swash buckling every 20s
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Without the Meme Dagger, this beta wouldn't be nearly as fun.
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>>122173223
Your post makes no sense and you're fucking moron.

0/10
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>>122173423
Your complaint doesnt either, faggot

>you're fucking moron.
I'll give you time to read this sentence and think about what's wrong with it.
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>>122173404
It's fun with or without the meme dagger for me. I just need to reach Necro and everything will be wonderful
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>>122173364
>USING A SUBWEAPON SHOULD INDEED GIVE YOU MORE DAMAGE

No it shouldn't? Why the fuck should it? Are you retarded? Unless you use it why the fuck should it increase your damage? Moron.

You missed my point. You can use sub weapons with C.

Just hit C you fucking retard.

It's not supposed to stack your sub weapon to your main weapon you fucking mongoloid unless you have a specific ability that hits with bot.

Fucking kill yourself so you never pass on your retarded genes further.
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>>122173404
Fun is a meme, not a defence.
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>>122173545
>You missed my point. You can use sub weapons with C.
Except for the fact that shields, the most common type of subweapon, cant be used by anyone except swordsmans
I will accept that daggers should not increase main weapon damage when shields stop aumenting physical defense
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>>122173404
>playing games for fun
kek
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>>122173545
So thats your entire complaint then?
Just because the sub weapon has a dedicated button implies you're not using it when you attack with your main one?

>strength pendant should have its own dedicated use button too
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What's the best build for Bokors?
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>>122172116
>>122172246

>get into mission
>dic'd error
>log back in, step back into same mission
>dic'd error again after going inside
>2/2

incredible
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>>122173545
Are you retarded?
There is no point in attacking with both weapons unless you got a buff like Corsairs.

It should give attack bonuses to not make it useless, if not, then there is no reason to pick a dagger instead of a shield for most classes, and once again you're stuck with unbalanced 2H weapons.
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>>122173742
Dex is the best build for anything.
II even build dex on my linker.
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>>122173640
Shields are entirely irrelevant to this discussion. You think 40 defence from a shield makes any difference at all? It doesn't, and this is a fucking discussion about damage and how Arde works you FUCKING MORON. Shields are entirely irrelevant to this discussion.

Shields do not block without severe investing into specific stats and classes.

Daggers should not increase main hand damage without severe investing into stats and builds, mainly Corsair.

RETARD
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they should just remove the ability for other classes to equip daggers in sub unless you're specifically a dual wielding class like corsair or shin obi in the future. makes them unique like that.

a priest using a dagger doesn't make any sense desu
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>>122173830
nice meme
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>>122173837
You mean you don't bring a dagger with you every day?
What if a BRbarian jumps you?
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>>122173531
>I just need to reach Necro and everything will be wonderful
I'm sorry.
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>>122173810
YOU AREN'T ATTACKING WITH BOTH WEAPONS YOU FUCKING LITERAL MORON YOU ARE JUST HITTING WITH YOUR MAIN WEAPON

WHY THE FUCK SHOULD A DAGGER IN YOUR OFFHAND INCREASE YOUR MAIN HAND SWINGS WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN USE IT, WHEN YOU HAVE A FUCKING ATTACK TO DO SO

You guys are pathetic. You're literally strawmanning the initial discussion about Arde Dagger into some bullshit idiotic mumbling about how daggers should directly increase main hand damage

for

no

fucking

reason
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>>122173928
Nah it's fine, I'll definitely get to Necro before the end of the beta if I play most days apart from Sunday, and be able to test it out enough to form my own opinion on it. Everything's just fine
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>>122166129
dual wielding ANY dagger or just arde dagger?
this is an important distinction
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>>122173832
>Shields are entirely irrelevant to this discussion.
>A subweapon is irrelevant in a discussion about subweapons

>Daggers should not increase main hand damage without severe investing into stats and builds
>Shields should not increase defense unless you are a peltasta

Nigga you just went full retard
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>>122174010
>WHY THE FUCK SHOULD A DAGGER IN YOUR OFFHAND INCREASE YOUR MAIN HAND SWINGS WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN USE IT, WHEN YOU HAVE A FUCKING ATTACK TO DO SO

Because there is no reason to use a fucking dagger otherwise, as it's inferior to a standard weapon, using it to attack when your spear does more damage is retarded.

Don't you understand fucking game balance?

They either do this >>122173837 or make daggers increase main weapon damage so they don't become redundant.
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>>122174014
I meant necro is going to disappoint you badly. At least if you wanted it for the army of skelebros.
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>>122174179
Then don't use a dagger if you're not a dual wielder
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>>122167129
I mean you only really should be complaining about useless classes if you're playing Oracle and Pardoner. Oracle literally can't do anything since all bosses drop cubes and Pardoner can only turn Priest spells into scrolls that no one wants.
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>>122174010
>WHY THE FUCK SHOULD A DAGGER IN YOUR OFFHAND INCREASE YOUR MAIN HAND SWINGS WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN USE IT, WHEN YOU HAVE A FUCKING ATTACK TO DO SO

Because thats the only reason for a dagger to exist, increasing damage
What do you want to make the damage the weapons do independant of stats too?
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>>122174197
No, I want it mostly because it's a Necromancer and summons a Shoggoth. The army of skeletons is a secondary that'll be neat to have but not the main reason. Looking forward to Flesh Cannon more, actually
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>>122174214
Did you read the last line?
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Oh god I can equip this gear that isn't optimal for my class please game devs save me
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What do I make next? I've given up on reaching Rank 6, so make it something I can have fun with at rank 5.
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>>122174323
Right now it's the most optimal equipment.
And it makes you so salty that it's hilarious.
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>>122174310
It doesn't matter. Just don't use it
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>>122174323
Why don't we have two-handed axes? Slash and Strike in one weapon
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>>122174083
Shield block rates are affected by stats.

What stat increases Arde Daggers offensive?

Oh wait, nothing. Since it's broken.

You don't even know that shields can passively block without any block abilities. Everything you've said is now moot since you've proven yourself to be a clueless moron.

>>122174179
>there is no reason to use daggers if there isn't a broken mechanic like Arde Dagger
And this is a bad thing why? This sounds perfectly fine. Don't use the dagger if you're not a dual wielder.

Some classes can use sub weapons to combo with their spells, like hitting icewalls for projectiles or pushing a fireball.

>Don't you understand fucking game balance?
Says the moron who keeps defending broken mechanics.

You still are a retard.

If they did what >>122173837 said it would even the battlefield for all classes to use

A BROKEN GAME MECHANIC
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>>122174387
Please tell me why shouldn't I use something that increases my damage.
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>>122174387
>WAHH THEY ARE USING WEAPONS THAT I DONT LIKE
LITERAL RETARD
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>>122174385
Except I'm not him. He has a point and your response is retarded
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>Don't bother having traditional identity stat scale well with their class (str for swordsman, dex for archers, etc)
>Don't bother using traditional formulas from RPGs that have already been around the block (diablo did this shit years ago)
Game will be dead within a month of official release.
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>>122174464
>WHY DOES AN OFFHAND WEAPON MAKE YOUR MAIN WEAPON STRONGER
>BECAUSE IF IT DIDN''T I WOULDN'T USE IT AND THAT'S A PROBLEM
No it isn't. Just don't use it
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>meme dagger causing all this anger

sasuga
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Dumbell is a sub weapon.

Why doesn't it make my main hand hit for 5 kilograms of damage?

THIS IS UNFAIR. I NEED THE 5 KILOGRAMS SO I CAN HIT AS HARD AS BURBARIOOONZ

WAAH WAAAH DEVS PLZ BALANCE
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>>122174451
>And this is a bad thing why? This sounds perfectly fine. Don't use the dagger if you're not a dual wielder.
Because we're talking about the game as it is now, you retard. Every subweapon is useless as it is because they don't increase your damage (no, attacking with the subweapon isn't good enough, as it's inferior to a normal attack most of the time) and shields are awful unless you're a peltasta.

So either they make subweapons work as the Arde dagger does (which it's a bug, yes, but they could perfectly work that into an actual mechanic and balance it) or they make subweapons specialized for certain classes.

>A BROKEN GAME MECHANIC
You realize it could be balanced? Or are you that much a shortsighted retard?
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>memelander
>considered harmful

So I figured, why not try it.

Just got C2 and it's the most fun I've had on Swordsman so far. Cross Cut, Skyliner, and Moulinet are fast and feel great to use.

It's like you're starting out and just learning the ins and outs in C1, so it's slow and long CD, and then in C2 your mastery is letting you use this giant piece of sharp metal like an extension of your own hand.

Holy shit.
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>>122174454
Please read the proceeding posts
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>>122174606
>it's okay for an item slot to be completely useless when compared to a different - but not entirely superior - option

this is what you're saying

'daggers shouldnt give damage bonuses because two hand swords exist' while at the same time defending that 'daggers should exist but you don't have to use them'

literally

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My Cleric found Sestas Mace. How is it compared to Skullcrusher and Maulos?
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>>122174606
And use what then?
See, that's the problem, there is no reason for those subweapons to even exist unless they do something.

They either balance them into the game in an usable way (Aside from dual wielding classes) or remove them altogether.
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>>122174431
Who is this semen demon please
>>
the dagger doesn't increase you're damage you f*cking re*tards it's the +fire damage on it that does
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>>122174672
been there, felt that

it stops being fun/good around lv. 90 when barbs start running around Seism'ing everything in sight while you stand there striking a pose for four seconds doing no damage
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>>122174693
What the fuck are you talking about. There are dual wielding classes in the game. They would use an off hand weapon. If you don't dual wield then don't carry dual weapons. This is so uncomplicated that it's how it works in almost every other RPG
>>
How do you make archer feel not like ass in the early game? I really want to try Sapper, but the first circles on archer just make me want to rip my skin off.
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>>122174689
I did, since I wrote the post you were replying too.
And as I said, they either make subweapons a stat stick or limit them to certain classes like someone said, because otherwise there is no reason for them to exist.
Deliberately not using something that helps is retarded.
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>>122174330
Did you use your cards in frustration?
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>>122174661
>Every subweapon is useless as it is because they don't increase your damage
wow I didn't realize that Swordsman was literally the only class start possible in this game
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>>122174549
>Don't bother

Copy pasting mechanics is not bothering at all. It would be the easier thing to do actually.
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>>122174650
>five kilograms of damage
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>>122174765
pssst

then go play every other rpg, you retard
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>IMC trolls all of /tosg/ just by adding the meme dagger and making every class that isnt memelander/barbarian shit

lol
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>>122174451
>You don't even know that shields can passively block without any block abilities
Nigga do you think i dont play the fucking game enough to know how shields work
You couldnt even give a single rebuttal to what i said you just gave information that provides nothing that we dont already know
>Shield block rates are affected by stats.
>What stat increases Arde Daggers offensive?
>Oh wait, nothing. Since it's broken

The fuck does that has to do with my post.
Your point was simple, the dagger should only give damage with its designated subweapon button because thats how subweapons should work, eventhought the most fucking common type does not work like that.
Accept it man you are simply a retard
>>
Why not remove the sub weapon slot and make dual sword as a weapon that can only be used by classes who dual wield?
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>>122170214
Jesus all those barbarians
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>>122174790
Or they fix the logical flaw of having the stat apply to your main weapon and don't class lock it because game devs aren't responsible for making sure every single thing you equip is right
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>>122174804
Yeah, I did. RIP character.
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>>122174650
>mfw I equip 5 kilograms of damage

>all spells go from 400 ticks to 5400 ticks
>mfw /tosg/ would defend this
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Why does it always lag at this time. Everyday
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>>122174868
because the meme dagger and the super meme dagger should be the only good offhand for every class
>>
xD
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>>122174843
Except if you actually played this game you'd know that's not what the Arde Dagger did, because the only thing Arde Dagger doesn't buff is any summon.
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>>122174808
Did you selectively ignore what I said about shields?
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>>122174928
the only good offhand >so far

>so
>far
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>>122174650
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Where do these tards take points from? I'm ranked twentysh with 25k only.
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>>122174779

by re-rerolling into swordsman
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How long until people start noticing that Wizards are the most broken class in the game? I mean, they're not that good at hitting monsters but Vit/Dex Sage in RO wasn't either, dedicated Linkers/Chronomancer/Elementalist are going to cause way more problems than Swordsmans once pvp or some sort of partyXparty starts getting competitive.
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>>122174735
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Anyone who whines about class disbalance havent played past 4 circle.
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>>122175109
PvP's already heavily dominated by Wizards because of Sleep and Freeze. Cryomancer in PvP can sleep, freeze, box something in with Ice Wall and go to town on them. Sorcerer can have their summons slapping frozen targets. Corsairs are still good in PvP and healers take six years to kill if they're good.
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>>122175230
literally talking absolute garbage out of his asshole

except the wizard part. of course everyone right now is a PvE spec but yes wizard cryo's, chronomancers etc. will easily mop up anyone 1v1 but PvP is CONFIRMED 5v5.
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> tfw no key
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>>122175305
1v1 or party vs party dueling is still PvP, think before you talk. And Cryomancer's Ice Pillar still sweeps 5v5 because it sucks all of them into it
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>be linker for group of 4 barbarians
>everytime my penalty is off cooldown, the link doesn't even make it to 4 enemies before the mob gets wiped out
>they still keep me around in the party anyway
Do people just have blind love for linkers?
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>>122175375
yea what if they accidentally don't overkill all the mobs they need you for the clean up
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>>122175375
linker is useless and they are dumb nigger monkeys
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>tfw just got alt to lvl 141
Time to suffer through the depths of hell again.
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>>122175375
Yes
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Just got memedagger for my Hoplite.

Fucking Amazing. Switching with Spear+Shield and Spear+Dagger is so good. Now for Beetleback farming.
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Chronomancer a cute
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I hope Bokor 2 is worth it like you said faggots. Right now my dumb ass zombies do 50 damage and are slow as shit
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>>122175350
>the age old retarded argument about dueling

>if it's a duel, it doesn't count as pvp if I'm losing
>but if it is a duel, it counts because I'm winning

it doesn't matter at all since

>pvp is confirmed 5v5
read before you write you retard
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>>122174896
>and don't class lock it because game devs aren't responsible for making sure every single thing you equip is right
That's bad game design, it's having redundant mechanics.
If they allow every class to equip a goddamn subweapon, they better have some use for it, so either they make subweapons a stat stick (except for dual wielding classes) or make actually useful subweapons, like shields are for Peltasta (and only for Peltasta).

Or just class lock subweapons and don't allow other classes to equip them, to not have redundant game mechanics.
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>>122175524
>PvP
>Player vs Player
>Right now this game has "Friendly duels" and the only PvP planned currently missing is arena

Shut the Hell up, anon
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>>122175440
Enjoying those broken mechanics anon?

It's good you learned something from this thread today.
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>>122175563
I wasn't saying dueling isn't pvp you fucking moron

did you not understand why I brought up the age old argument? are you fucking dense or something anon?

this game is not balanced 1v1 so stop talking shit out of your asshole about content we have no access to

fucking idiot, stop talking
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Will there be unfriendly duel?
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>>122175583
Yeah.
Used Finestra with Arde equipped and then Stabbing.

>MFW
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>>122175109
>>122175230
cryo is broken as fuck in 1v1 pvp, tried once.
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>>122175630
You can have 5v5 right now, you fucking idiot. That's the point. Duels are BY PARTY, you can have 2v1 right now if you want. Shut the Hell up, anon
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>>122175518
bokor is the worst class after falconeer
you got russed
reroll while you can
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>>122175660
you have not done any 5v5 party duels at all anon stop fucking lying and making yourself seem more of a fucking retard with every post

webm or it didn't happen, but we both know you don't have it and you're making shit up like the shit talking faggot you are
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>All this talk of wizards being broken in 1v1 and no mention of c2 psychokino
You guys haven't seen the slamdunk?
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>>122175708
>we have no access to
Don't try to scapegoat around being fucking wrong. You jumped in when I said Wizards dominate in PvP and tried to pull the "you can't comment because we can't do the very thing we can actually do right now and have been able to do all beta"

Grow the fuck up or otherwise don't chime in
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whats the xp addon u fag use?
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149 lvl 7 exp cards is the absolute most you can have. Went full autismo kept track of every quest in each zone and crossed out those I've done. Unless im missing some super obscure area, this is the final amount you can have for lvl 7 cards.

Time for lvl 8 cards.
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>>122175750
And I'm right still. I'm literally right by that statement. We don't have arena and party duels are not arena. You're still just a fucking scapegoating faggot who says he has some kind of edge into the pvp scene of a game that has no pvp scene.

You're a literal retard, but please keep posting like you're some kind of intellectual pvp savant who has been pvping at max level outside Prontera all beta.
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>>122175848
>5v5 doesn't actually count as 5v5 because it isn't in an arena with a scoreboard
>You're still just a fucking scapegoating faggot who says he has some kind of edge into the pvp scene
>literally talking absolute garbage out of his asshole
>except the wizard part.
Yeah, uh-huh.
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I want to make a Thaumaturge, but I've been playing Pyromancer all beta.
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Now if only they had a 5v5 arena PVP map where each team has a base with towers that fired a shitton of damage at nearby enemies and spawned tons of mobs every 30 seconds going in 3 different paths to fight against the enemy mobs which give a certain currency when slain to buy certain equips at your base which you respawn at when you die.
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>>122175901
Haha, what? What's your point moron?
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>>122175972
>pve in my pvp

Plz no, I want my archer to be useful for something at least.
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>>122175972
subtle
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>>122175819
149 sounds alright. i used a few and got 122 L7 saved up
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I don't want to give up my dex deadly sin necklace, what's a good alternative?
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>>122150486
Do the Koreans have a single channel for all mid-late zones too?
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>>122175819
The only sad thing about grinding Demon Prison is the early stage of being like 10 levels below the mobs you're killing. It's tempting to eat cards just to hit 150 but I'll manage ;_;
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>>122176415
do not use them.

>>122176310
yea you're fine long as you didn't use lvl 8 ones. just a lil extra grindin
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>>122175375
>friend went petalsta instead of thighlander
>he's barb 2 now
>he can full screen shashbuckler and overkill
>tfw im useless
>tfw he doesn't even need me anymore

why ;-;
god bless we're friends, so he won't leave the party

r-right?
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r8 but don't h8

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/jmc4clve9y/
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so im wizard/pyro
161 and soon*tm 170
still using a staff cuz arde meme started after i already had a nice staff
should i get me a memedagger at 170 or a 170 staff ? 170 staff dmg looks pretty close to it
if dagger, what other weapon would be bestest at 170 ?
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So guys, I'll be level 100 soon. I want to know when do I start saving cards.
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>>122176572
>fell for the linker meme
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>>122176572
Barbarians can't kill late game bro, it's just a meme.
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well know you need the majority of your level 7 cards and all your level 8 cards to skip the 165-175 wall. but what would you guys say are the walls before that, and do you think they require you to save cards for them?
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>>122176583
There's a 170 memedagger like arde, but to answer your question:

If a 170 rod + arde bonus damage > your staff, then yes (since arde also boosts your enchant fire attack damage)
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>>122176681

>Barbarians can't kill late game bro

yes, they can. stop spouting this nonsense, you meme loving fuck.
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>>122176605
save all L7 or just all when u hit 120
lower cards dont do shit at 160+
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>>122176681
>Barbarians can't kill late game bro
wew
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lmao
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In all honesty, how's cataphract? About to hit rank 4 but choosing between going C2 Hoplite then head straight to corsair, but with time constraints I probably won't reach C2 Corsair.
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>>122176415
I used some to make the grinding easier and it's not a problem. I can still make the jump from level 163.
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>>122176581
Everything was going fine and then you went monk
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Can someone tell me how many lv 8 cards you're suppose to end up with if you save them all?
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>>122176581

>cleric>krivis>bokor>bokor>monk>monk

AYYYYYYYYYYYY

>rank3 bokor

have fun suffering

other than that, it looks fine.
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>>122176583
awakened Elder Rod gives +63 fire attack and decent base MAtk to pair with your meme dagger if you can get ahold of one
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>>122160797
Holy shit that's Anna from Shimoneta?
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>>122176785
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>>122176808
Monk, along with Corsair, are the best melee DEEPS classes of the game.
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>>122176808
Monk is a great class, you can even kamemeha.
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>>122176838
>looks fine
>Zaibas in a Monk build
m8 no
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>>122176858
>awakened

Need an alchemist friend. ;-;
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>>122176874
This is the like the exact opposite of the truth
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>>122176936
>Muh blessing meme that adds +20 more damage late game
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>>122176724
ahh i just found it too
http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/113002/
ppl sell it for even more the arde

there are some rods with little over 200 magic + 153 arde = about 350-360
staff must be really do to beat that

damn i liked using staffs :/
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>>122176874
theyre right though. dex is >>>>>> str all the way to 200 but once we can go into the 300s and beyond str will start to beat dex
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>>122176974
No nigger I'm saying don't use a MAtk skill with a STR-based build.
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How does Thaum's buffs work for Highlanders/Barbs that use 2h weapons?
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>>122176945
i will be alchem, but mage with daggers is so lame

memedaggers nerf when
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>>122177043
the same
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is there any gear I should get as pyro/linker?
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>>122177030
Diano and Zalciai are not INT based skills.
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Anyone on Gabija have a Battle Bracelet?
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>>122176581
>>122176808
>>122176838
This is a better monk build http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/1nb4cz6v69/
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>>122177126
>memedaggers nerf when

Hopefully soon.
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>>122177267
That is also a boring Monk build
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>>122177183
What the fuck does that have to do with Zaibas fucking retard
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>>122177313
What the fuck does Zaibas has to do with Diano and Zalciai?
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>>122176858
>awakened ... gives +63 fire attack
is the awake stat same on all item types ? all rods +fire ? or all rods different ?
is there a list for all awake stats yet ?
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>>122177370
I never said anything about them, I said don't use a MAtk move (Zaibas) with a STR-based build.
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>>122177293
>>122177267

Tank, healer DPS combined. Levelling it early would suck though.
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>>122177374

see >>122151227
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how do I end the quest in Royal Mausoleum 1F it tells me to dedicate power to a chest but I can't find said chest. No markers in the map either
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>>122177487
thanks senpai
bookmarked
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>>122176674
Actually I got linker real early the beta because I thought I could physical link my summons together when I got Sorc and Necro

That said, linker really helps pyromancers
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How much longer is left in the beta? Do I still have time to get a Rank 6 if I full poopsock mode?
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>>122177829
you must be able to skip demon prison
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>>122177912
why is demon prison bad?
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>>122177957
because it takes a ridiculous amount of time to grind from 140-165, which is when you use your level 7 and 8 cards to get to 175 to get past the dead zone. you can just skip demon prison if you have enough level 3-6 cards
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>>122177512
help?
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>>122177829
starting from scratch? I think it's still possible but you really have to poopsock it

it ends November 25
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>>122178067
Is this bait?
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New patch guys, rumored to fix the market. Restart your ToS.
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>>122178067
level 3-6 cards do absolutely nothing at lvl 140
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>>122178127
mfw this shitty patch literally broke my game
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>>122178127
I only get ipf errors now.
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>>122178120
Sort of. Saving all your 3-6 cards means you'll have wasted more time grinding pre-demon prison than you would if you just grinded there, since it's literally the best grinding map of the game so far.
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>>122177487
>>122177374
well fuck me sidways
staff is dead. with awakes rod+arde will even be OP at 170+

>>122178120
yes it is

>>122177957
prison is ok. not even that much grind. just a pain if its full of ppl
>>122177829
if you go full nolife , 15+ hour a day , neet grinding + questing , you can maybe get to 177
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>>122178164
Hm... I think you get 220 Lv3 cards, about 150 Lv4s and... Fuck, I forgot how many 5s and 6s. Anyway...

2375 * 220 = 522.500

3155 * 150 = 473.250

That's barely one million experience from close to 400 experience cards. Not counting lv5s and lv6s.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but you gotta be more thorough, anon
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>>122178218
Didn't people just give up there since it was so bad?
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When do I start saving cards level 100+?
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>>122178302
Considering you need to grind like 30 million before using your cards that's not much.
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Anyone on Gabija have a Leather Bangle?
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I don't know if I should go Sadhu or Monk, please help
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>>122178302
>>122178338
start save all L7 cards. lower dont do much at 165
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>>122178338
>saving cards
>when there's less than 2 weeks remaining
Yeah, man. Totally save up all those cards for when you hit level X so you can pop them all at the same time and get level Y in 2 minutes

I hope you get there before beta ends though
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>>122177126
>but mage with daggers is so lame
I actually like the rod+dagger
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What Cleric skill increases Sadhu's attack? Deprotected Zone or Cure?
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>>122178520
but long thick big staffs are so much more lewd
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How is my Sadhu build guys? http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/xn25oxtpap/ Don't bully me please
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me and anon
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>>122178520
I just hate how big they are, they look like short swords, not daggers. I wish they were more subtle.
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>>122178306
It was bad back when you had to share each inch of the map with 20 other players.

Unless it changed in the past 3 days, the place was pretty empty last time I checked.
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>>122178697
>anon's lodge
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>>122177126
>>122178520
MAGES HAVE KNIVES!
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>>122178697
You traitorous loli slut, you promised to only duo with me.
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How would a Dievditby > Sadhu build work?
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>>122150729
This makes me wonder if Anyone has made trip map with the locations you have to go ingame compared with their real life counterparts
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Certain /tosg/ individuals need to not approach my bonfires and lewd them. Thank you
>>
Anyone questing on overlong Bridge valley?
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>getting ignored 6 times in a row
time to leave, fuck you all you shitty erpers
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>get hoplite C2 test
>I bet its just going to be kill X 20 times
>lol no upgrade your weapon to +6
Good thing I actually had a +6 weapon beforehand but is every C2 test is going to be that?
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>>122179121
Don't be sad, anon.
I'll ERP with you if you want that badly.
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>>122179137
Barb is pretty cool, but ultimately just as retarded
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I thought that Archer was supposed to be difficult as all get out from the start?

Ranger C1 feels fine. When does it get hard?
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Am I underleveled or something? There's rank 5 masters on the map but I'm only level 72
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>>122178663
holy fuck
where ? how ?
selling ?
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>>122179176
enjoy not doing anything past 70 if you didn't go archer3
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>>122179184
press n
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>>122179180
the info is here now we need to find it
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>>122179180
>gilo
that guy is trolling* 24/7
a shame if you still take his poor bait


* actually he is only writing bullshit like some retard, but that is called "trolling" nowdays
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>>122179251
Wugushi and Ranger C3 sound like better choices than Archer C3. Swift Step's crit attribute is nice and all but this is Tree of AoE.
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>>122179176
Did you go archer c2? Not having anything that resembled a AoE skill to fuck with huge mobs was a pain for me, damage seems to be increasing as I've reached lvl 40 and got new weapons. What are ranger skills like?
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>tfw you realize ToS is basically diablo 3 with a level cap
>>
>only 80
>used up all of my cards and haven't cleaned up royal mausoleum quests
How fucked am I?
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>>122179339
Archer3 Wugushi3 is best build
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/feedback-about-the-game-more-than-disapointing/114108

MUH RO
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>>122179259
Its a level 67 map. Still weird, thought I was supposed to be rank 5 in here or something
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>>122179251
or Sapper
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>>122179404
not very but idk why youd feel like you need to do this, try the 84-92 zones
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>>122179404
Do the farms, if its not enough, cry
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>>122179361
Barrage is a bit difficult to aim initially but once you get the hang of it, you pretty much just melt crowds since its a fan shaped AoE. Which also doubles as a 5 hit attack on bosses at melee range.

High Anchoring isn't as good but its a gap filler when Barrage is on CD.

Critical Shot is basically a substitute for your normal attack on bosses since Oblique isn't as good there.

Steady Aim is a shittier Concentrate.
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>>122179402
Diablo 3 doesn't have cute hats and cute girls.
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>>122179492
>>122179502
Already staying in 2F though I'm curious how high the monsters in 3F
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>>122179554
So Ranger isn't that bad, huh? What do you plan on taking next?
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>>122179176
Ranger is the only sane choice at rank 2 if you want any actual AoE and Barrage also doubles as a single target skill so it's good all around.
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>>122179402
>i dont play D3 or ToS
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>>122179729
>thinks d3 and tos are nothing alike
wew
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>>122179617
Well Ranger is a C1 or C3 only class so I might go for Ranger C3.

Sapper sounds like a pain in the ass since I barely invest in Con/Str considering the mess that is the Str/Dex balance so I'm not going to be lugging around reagents.

So its most likely Ranger C2 -> Wugushi or just Ranger C3.

Depending on my choice I'll either go Rogue or Wugu C2.
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I met the Diev C3 guy again. He's graduated prison.
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>>122179947
What is this absolute madman trying to build?
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>>122179947

ABSOLUTE MADMAN
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>>122179947
>1 players like this character

So underappreciated.
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>>122180041
statues
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>>122179785
I've gone archer c2 - sapper and it's fun. I've only got Detonate now, I think it'll be a good "combo" with the stake stocades that have been doing their tricks. I'll probably check the two other skills too, I'm guessing the claymore ones must be bretty good, but consuming
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>>122179947
Do his owls hit hard?
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>>122179761
there may be some tiny similarity but most is totally different
and i played both games a lot
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>get a level 5 xp card for the first time
>it's barely a jump from level 4
is this some kind of sick joke
>>
Did they change something with the patch just now?

All of a sudden I barely crit and when I done, I do very little damage
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>>122179947
>did VFB ever dropped????

fucking BRs
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>>122180253

intentional because of the exp reset at lvl 86/87
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Thanks again to anon who gave me this nigger yday. This guy is grinding for me so good i think i'll roll pyro2/link1 next time instead of pyro2/thauma1, just to make his work easier.
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>>122180331
but i'm only at level 80
does this mean i'm doing the baron's farm too early
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>Cafrisun earth damage set doesnt work with skills
I feel riped off
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>>122180575

IT'S A BETA
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>>122177126
>>122178520
>>122178968
ok i tryed and fuck yea

Superior Steel Staff +7 VS Elder Rod+7 and Arde, is about 100 more dmg
without awake. that will add another 110 dmg or more if i get a 170 Rod

at EACH fire ball / flame ground / fire pillar Tic
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>>122180690
>IT'S A BETA
WAIT WHAT
You mean its supposed to work with skills?
Thats great
>>
Negative magic resistance is serious business, right?
I got a item wth -14 earth resistance and now it feels like I'm getting rekt ten times harder by some mobs in the Mausoleum.
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>rifles
>mirror image skill
>the fun starts at 220+
Well shit
>>
at a world boss with 30 people
crash
come back
3 people
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What exactly are they going to do with the imminent power creep? If the max level is 500 pretty much 90% of the skills we have right now are going to be useless.
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>>122180885
You wanted to say kage bunshin no jutsu?
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Does anyone know how oblique shot interacts with aoe attack increase?
>>
where is demon prison 2?
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>>122180939
Of course I want to be kirito with ninja shit while spamming BELIEVE IT
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>>122180971
shaton reservoir
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>>122180939
I think you mean, After Images with mass.
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>>122181032
where exactly? do i have to go through those fucking tunnels?
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>>122180939
I'm gonna make the most broken Narutu build and duel everyone.
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>almost dying
>someone brings aggressive monsters to where I am
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>>122181350
No problem, man
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>>122181109
ye its not hard
>>
Anyone for 175 dungeon on Zemyna?
>>
New thread where?
>>
>>122181487
Do it faggot
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>>122181487
bump
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>>122180909
The devs said that is the way the game is supposed to work, previous classes will become useless as you get new ones.

The game would be uch more interesting if all the classes were equal in potential, it would allow for many interesting builds.

But that would require actual effort, so never ever.
>>
>>122181584
Balancing would also be hell. I mean, right now even if some class if overpowered it won't matter much as long as they make ranks 8+ balanced.
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I found comfy.
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Okay. I won this game.
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>>122181870
slut
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>>122181870
Yeah, I dunno
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>>122181820
>SP recovery time decreases by 5 seconds
I wonder if it stacks with Sorcerer's Summon Servant which also takes off a few seconds.
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I've been walking around for half an hour, looks like the monster problem is solved.
>>
>>122181820
what class is that?
>>
>>122181584
>previous classes will become useless as you get new ones
Well this is how it is now. I never ever used anything other that Energy shield from wiz after i hit like lv15.

But there are always non damaging skills that can be used later. Would be fun if the classes had a requirement, like if you want to be a 'Sage' you need to have x circles in 'Thaumaturge'.

>>122181870
slut/10 would not hire
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>>122156173
Anon, do you still want the dagger? I'll buy you one
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>>122180370
Damn I saw this autism lord and his butt buddy's fucking around town.
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I'm just running around the place when I stumbled on this

What the fuck is happening
>>
god I so want to get to cooking food but this grind is so hard ;_:
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>>122181973
>weapon swap is a vuvuzela
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>>122181870
Why are sorcerer panties darker in the middle?

Are they really fond of not shaving?
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>>122181870
would impregnate/10
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>>122181820
meant to reply to >>122181820

>>122181981
squire c2
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>>122182145
Are you jealous?

>>122181820
I am jealous. I don't think I'll make rank 6.
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>>122182121
Oh no, anon, they are going to bully you for leaking the sekreet
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>>122181982
aw
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>>122182304
much better
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Remember not to invite into parties, heal or support Memelanders and BRbarians, unless you know them. They are all scum.
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dammit
why are the only 2 pets , all classes can use , so goddammit butt ugly
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>>122182489
This. Part of the reason I didn't want to have a hunter
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>>122182090
>>122182090
>>122182090
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>>122182201
man, that class is just too useful
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