/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

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(repostan from old thread)

I love when shit works well totally by accident.

Working on implementing my "busted pipe" asset for the Tier 6 "level falling apart" changes (as an aside, the procedural pipe asset I've designed is really awesome, I'm loving using it as a background decoration)

I decided to implement a little "steam spew" particle effect for this pipe; the original idea was, the pipe bursting would expose a pit in the ground and cast debris all over the arena, which would serve to switch it up, so I wanted it to look like the pipe had ruptured.

Due to a typo in my particle effect scalars, I accidentally made the steam spew so enormous it carpeted the entire arena in nigh-innavigable fog.

I liked it so much I decided to keep it. Makes for a really interesting dynamic when fighting aggressive enemies like this; the way transparency sorting is handled in Mayhem League, you can always see when you've HIT the enemy, but otherwise have very little sense of where he is in relation to you.

I do still intend to have debris get scattered, of course, but I wanted to share the fog-fight effect first. It's an effect I intend fully to replicate across all 3 or 4 arenas I planned to include a "ruptured pipe" at Tier 6.

http://strawpoll.me/5981264/

remainder

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>>122045964
(reiterating from old thread)

on and off agdg dev here from Pacifica

Is anyone still aware of this game? It has been in the works for maybe a year and a half to two years.

I have made some massive updates in the past few weeks and I have implemented a prayer mechanic and updated/fixed a ton of shit. I'm two steps away from a playable demo - I need to balance and pace the game.

The user interface is improved and more useful, the different alliances have their own powers now, and the gameplay has been tightened up. Everything is generally better.

When the game is done, I'm also going to release a version set in the map of the Caribbean, titled Carribea.

>>122046135
that skeleman coming out of the fog is scary! Nice work.

>>122046430
Why do you keep posting a cute puppy?
Not that I'm complaining.

nth for dumb location strawpoll
http://strawpoll.me/5979203

>>122046430
this fills me with determination

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>>122046135
Also, as a follow-up, a screengrab on the decorative power of procedural pipes.

15 minutes with Blender and a spline-mesh-based blueprint actor. They actually turned out better than I even expected.

>>122046728
>http://strawpoll.me/5979203
>what's your age
>where do you live
Game development.

Hey eggheads, how do I find a codemonkey and drawer to put the details on my idea. It's going to knock the industry down off it's high horse and into the strata sphere.

>>122047239
Reddit for the coder and any hardware store for the drawer

C-chants you see that I love your game, baka!

>>122047239
tfw i have to deal with real clients that behave like this

>>122047395
Wait, is this some dev genuinely working on this? I thought it was just some guy throwing random webm of an existing game.

What does your game have?

pirating unity pro or no? (broke :c)

ooor.. i could use the free edition(am i missing any tools or something like that?)

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remember when the trapjam had nothing happening to the time before the drawing?

i made a "loading screen" for the time being.

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>>122047529
A cube holding a rectangle as a weapon.

>>122047529
>slo-mo backflips
>explosions
>rocket boots
>gunblades
>wicked sweet halfpipe hangtime
>cuhrayzee melee combos

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>>122046141
>http://strawpoll.me/5981264/
>i think my game should be sold because...
>I want more people to play it
Then put the game out for free, and by doing so you have no reason to answer this poll.
>I don't want to sell my game
Then why are you answering a poll that reads "i think my game should be sold because..." ?
>i think its gives extra motivation to finish my game
Have we not made it clear already that those who need "motivation" to do something are already doomed? And if it does give you motivation to finish your game, what is that motivation? Do you want to finish it so more people can play it? Then make it free and don't sell it. Do you want to finish it so you can make money and survive off your skills in gamedev? If so then
>i want success,popularity and money
Is probably the answer for your. Except it's a rigged answer intended to shame anyone here who is willing to have actual success. It's still the only correct answer. Even if you complete a game for free and it's good enough to be played by many, you are now popular. If you sell the game and it's good and becomes liked, you will have success in the form of popularity and money.
This poll is intended to shame anyone who is open to being truly successful, but that's because it's creator is a holier-than-thou "I do it for muhself" type of person, like the kid who plays his guitar horribly in his garage and calls any of his friends who join popular bands or become professional "sellouts".
It's easy to put a game out for sale and then sit back and watch it flop only to claim later "WULL I WAS JUST DOING IT BECAUSE I WANTED MORE PEOPLE TO PLAY MUH GAME" but it doesn't stand up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny because it's illogical, and a lie.
If your game was a failure, it's because it was a bad game. If you put it out for sale, it was because you wanted money and success, along with it will come popularity whether you wanted it or not. Most healthy human beings want to have success.

>>122047526
It's custom maid 2.

>>122047819
hey danny I think we've made it clear we dont want you here right? so yeeeeeeeaaah.

>>122047526
Guy who's spamming that webm ain't no dev son.

>>122047952
I've got more dev in one of my cells than you have in your entire body.

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>>122047952
He has a cute 3D custom waifu though.

>>122047819
i was only including success because of the moralfags that keep attacking it because games are "pure" for them.
>Do you want to finish it so more people can play it?
no its just because anyone can start making a game

>>122047529
Revenants
Elementals
Knights
Extermination of the lesser races.

>>122046141
You forgot the option: I want to sell enough copies to make enough money to enable me to continue working on the game

>>122048296
>(ex)Terminating of the lower races
You missed an opportunity, anon.

>>122048065
Where's your game famtachi?
>>122048075
It's a hgg meme, most likely not his custom maid because of the filename.

>>122047929
>it's this shit stick making these polls
figures

I'm very discreet. I have no code of ethics. I will kill anyone, anywhere. Children, animals, old people, doesn't matter. I just love killing.

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Like in Silent Hill 2 but with the environment.

>>122046135
If you put a depth fade node on the steam spew material opacity, that line on the ground where it is "clipping" should go away.

>>122048178
You can't sell a game without an intention for success. That's like saying you go swimming with the intention to float to the bottom and drown. Stop being dishonest with yourself and you can start being honest with others. People who habitually lie 24 hours a day tend to be horribly unsuccessful in life and always attempting to shame others or exert crab mentality on whatever social group they're clinging to at the moment.

>>122048535
Very cool. Is your game going to have combat or is it primarily going to be dungeon traversal?

>>122048535
That gave me a chuckle

>>122048616
It will have combat but it will be very simple, like Zelda Oot but without gadgets. Just sword and shield.

>>122048535
Unity?

>>122048591
There is a depth fade node, it needs to have the curve tweaked though to avoid the visible "line" on the square particles. Rn the distance is about 400, I'll probably up that considerably

>>122048178
>no its just because anyone can start making a game
This makes no sense. What are you trying to say?

opengl or directx

>>122048983
DX because of DX12's draw call batching

>>122048597
like i said
i only included those options because agdg are divided on this matter.
i think money is a driving force in finishing a game just because for people over 20 time is more valuable as well.
there is alot of things you can put in "why"

>>122048761
nope

>>122048983
Vulkan

>>122048908
starting a game and finishing a game are 2 different things

remember that focus energy and time goes into this.

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>>122049327
No anon stop

>>122049150
Whatever. You're trying to conflate success of a game with "I JUST WANNA BE POPULAR PLEASE LIKE ME"
You could have made popularity and financial success two separate options. Every other option in the poll is bogus for reasons already explained. Anyone saying they're selling their game because they want more people to play it is simply afraid of admitting to wanting success, because you've already conflated that with "p-p-please like me".
>REEE NORMIES STOP TRYING TO BE POPULAR
It never ends.

>>122049327
Haha, it gets worse every day!

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>>122049327
AAAAAHHHH

>>122049327
oh my fucking god

>>122049676
>>122049732
You know you're both just jealous of my amazing game

>>122049330
>starting a game and finishing a game are 2 different things
What does that have to do with your poll?

>>122050041
Please stop fake leaving.

Post your game's theme music

>>122049519
Funny since that image is from months ago

>>122047529
Big bones and cheaters

>>122047556

Solo devs get nothing significant from Unity 5 except cloud building (lets you bake lighting/occlusion faster) and a customizable splash screen. All the graphical features are in the free version.

>>122050323
please show us the whole thing from now

>>122050763
Not my game, it's just that image with the same filename is always posted, obviously he was intimidated by the UE4 progress in this thread

>>122050323
Yeah, I know. And it's worse now than it was then.

Hence "it gets worse every day"

>>122050763
Maybe later, I'm comfy in bed on my phone

>>122046193
>Is anyone still aware of this game?
yep, but only because of the UI and islands, I dont remember what the game was about

>>122050723
then the free version it is, thanks

>>122050849
Ooooooooooo
Shitposters be slippin' again
>>122050763
How about no?

What do you need to perform at maximal dab capacity
Ttrail mix? Tunes? Brews?
What's your secret to being such a compotent yesdev :)

What is /agdg/'s opinion of Playmaker for Unity?

Is it as good or better than blueprints for UE4?

This is for a 3D game.

>>122051484
Netflix playing in the background
Webms of and notes about my game on my phone so during the workday I can get excited to dev when I come home
Frequent breaks to dick around playing games when I get bored
Alcohol, caffeine, nicotine and sertraline in steady supply

In that order

>>122051057
good to know!

there's an indiedb in case anyone wants to know where to find info in the future

http://www.indiedb.com/games/pacifica

>>122051484
Taylor Swift songs to be honest

>>122051484
Jack off first, and no edging shit. Then make a snack, then watch some Netflix. Then check out /agdg/ then take a nap.

>>122051779
I bought it years ago and used it for a couple minutes before regretting my purchase. Typing code is so much nicer.

I now use UE4/Blueprints and hate it though

>>122051838
indiedb still exists?
You should probably move over to itch.io, leafo's doing a great job with it

>>122051779
Why would you pay for something that already exists in another engine for free?

>>122051968
Well assume that the person using it can't code at all and has no wish to learn how to code.

>>122048983
Both.
You better not force GL on windows you shitter

>>122052173
using drag 'n drop _is_ coding, just with a graph editor instead of a text editor
If you really don't want to worry about that shit find a programmerfriend

>>122052250
but dx sucks balls senpai :c, if anything he's doing them a favor

>>122052095
Because I'd rather pay $65 now and $900 later than pay 5% forever on anything I make from my game.

It's a matter of principle. Even if I don't make enough for any of this to matter.

>>122052414
Enjoy your principles

And also not releasing your game on Steam

>>122052414
>forever on anything
Only as long as you're making more than $1k/month

>>122051779
The one reason to use Unity is for c#. If you want node based scripting than UE4 is better in every way.

>>122052286
You're really arguing a point that has absolutely nothing to do with the original question.

I've obviously decided what I'm ok with and just want to know the quality of each.

I'd appreciate any help in that matter.

>>122052562
$3k and it's still a matter of principle. I don't think they're entitled to 5% of it. I'd rather pay for it outright but that doesn't seem to be an option without jumping through a bunch of hoops.

>>122052006
Wow, looks awesome. thanks!

>>122052767
$3k/quarter i.e. $1k/month..

Are you not going to put your game on steam then?

>>122052767
>>I don't think they're entitled to 5% of it.
>offering the best game engine of all time
>not worth 5%

:^) Okay anon

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>bundle site offers me a $1500 advance on royalties with 10% in royalties to be in a bundle
>fuck it, why not
>sign contract
>get $1500
>day of the bundle comes, my game isn't in it
>ask guy what's up
>"sorry, it'll be this friday"
>email him every couple days
>this is all he ever says
>it's been a month now
>other bundle company says they'll offer me a good amount if I can get in before December
>current contract expires after 2 months or the day the bundle ends
>probably going to miss out on that good money from the other bundle
>afraid this guy is going to try saying I need to pay him the $1500 back

What the fuck is this guy doing.

I hope he doesn't try diddling me and taking back his $1500, because that ain't happening.

>>122053339
aerannisdev?

>>122053339
I'd just put it in the other bundle and hope nothing happens

>>122053339
They're secretly selling your game and keeping all the money

>>122053629
Nah, that'd be a quick ticket to a lawsuit.

>>122053692
There's no uptick in Steam activations, so I highly doubt that's the case.

How to make 2D games not blend in to over-saturated market of 2D indie games?

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>>122052006
thanks man!

Made an itch.io for Pacifica, please check there for all further updates.

This game will be made available for free in Spring 2017. It will include a second game alongside it set in the Caribbean.

http://hetzluh.itch.io/pacifica

>>122053872
Not if the contract specified a sale date for the bundle.

If so, by not releasing on-time he's in breach of contract and you can walk away from it.

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everything will be ok

>>122054040
1: Don't make 2D.

2: If 1 is not an option, make it a game full of furries, shill regularly for at least 2 (two) years prior to release, and encourage fans to produce pornographic material involving your characters.

>>122054040
Add a dimension

>>122054225
tfw most of the succesful indie games are 2D

>>122054167
It's a two month contract. I'm not free until halfway through December, at which point this other bundle will be long over.

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>>122054190
>tfw no 3D dog games

>>122054364
if you agreed on a date for the first bundle to go on sale they can't keep you in bundle contract limbo
fuck em

>>122054040
good art
good character designs (your marketing material should focus on characters instead of the 2d game)
good story
good gameplay
solid marketing plan
over 10k twitter, tumblr followers and likes on facebook page
constant shilling on various communities (reddit, imgur, /v/,...) about your game

>>122054314
Tell that to Notch

If being the 'most successful' is your goal, you will fail.

>>122054364
You could always just release it in the other bundle and rely on the fact that by the time this fool figured it out, your contract with him would be up anyway and he wouldn't be able to do anything

More to the point, which bundle is the one that's fucking you on the release date? That way nobody else makes the mistake of working with this guy

>http://opengameart.org/ in the OP

>http://opengameart.org/content/into-the-void-professor-solass
This is why I cannot take this place seriously.

>>122054364
I'm in agreement, put it in the other bundle. That other guy has been jerking you around. It's your work.

>>122054587
i did think about minecraft, name other good indie game that is in 3D

>>122054720
Besiege

>>122054720
Mitsurugi Kamui Hikage?

>>122054696
>>http://opengameart.org/ in the OP
that's because of faggots that just copy the latest OP to shitpost with the image.
Mostñy anime autists

>>122054782
what if i don't want to make a sandbox game?

>>122054848
this actually is a legit answer

>>122054720
I liked Heart and Slash, at least...

Also does A Hat in Time count?

Race the Sun? I wanna say that's indie

>>122054481
The initial email I got was
>we got a bundle coming up this week we'll pay you $1500 to be in it
The contract I signed says they have up to 60 days to meme around, which makes me wonder if he's simply keeping me locked into the contract and will launch the bundle during the last possible week.

The company is a 10 minute drive from my house, and I'm not too eager to try tiptoeing around the contract since I've got jack shit for money and they'd probably be all too eager to sue for "losses".

>>122054696
>>122054930
I guess we shouldn't link anything github because of spaghetti code on shit repos.
You're retarded, shut the fuck up and go work on your game.

>>122054696
>>122054930
>boohoo someone made crappy art
>everyone is a shitposting anime weeaboo nodev because of this

Reminder that the only link the OP needs is:
http://alloyed.github.io/agdg-links/

Every other piece of text in the OP is just unnecessary bloat.

>>122054930
>ñ
Shouldn't you be building a wall right now?

>>122055082
>>122055090
What? I'm just saying that someone will go ahead and change the OP as they will, and it will usually be copied around by people rushing to make new threads. Which are usually people who post anime as the OP just to be ebin troles.
It's what used to happen when googum pushed his shit IRC channel instead of the old one, and people deleted the link to steamchat. Those OPs were changed each thread according to who made it, except for anime shitposter who would rush to copy the last OP

sorry if that didn't came across

>>122054445
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/143870832/home-free-0
literally

>>122055025
well, in that case you're pretty fucked until the 60 days are up.
protip: you as the creator hold all the cards in contract negotiations despite what it might seem like. they don't actually have anything without you and they're just trying to get between you and the money source. this is especially true if they've gone out of their way to contact you and not the other way around. next time talk them down to 30 days, or even 14 so this doesn't happen again.

who are they out of curiosity?

>>122055354
Yes, but not the wall you're thinking of.

>>122055434
Thanks

>>122055371
>people deleted the link to steamchat.
That's actually a good thing. Less drama.

>>122055698
>Less drama.
quite the opposite

>link is there
>thread goes as usual
>someone shitposts
>someone blames it on the bimonthly boogieman, whether it's steamchat, a namefag, irc, lolisim, etc.

>no link
>where's the link
>why did you remove the link
>hey guys is there any chat where I can hang out with devs
>hi guys i'm money - hopoo from h$p$$ games
>someone shitposts
>someone blames it on the bimonthly boogieman, whether it's steamchat, a namefag, irc, lolisim, etc.

>>122054720
>name other good indie game that is in 3D
Maybe instead of playing this game you should just admit that you're selfconscious about 2D? Stop being a wimp and go 3D. If you're afraid to because you're already committed to a 2D project, stop being a wimp and finish that, or start a 3D side project.

>>122055371
That's great. But that doesn't mean Open Game Art is a website that shouldn't be in the OP simply because there's some ugly art on it.

>>122056051
Does anyone actually use it, though?
Even that hacker dev had to pay for that ugly as sin clipart.
And if you're gonna use it for a mockup, actual game sprites are usually better.

>>122055371
>It's what used to happen when googum pushed his shit IRC channel instead of the old one, and people deleted the link to steamchat.
I remember this. He did more than that though, at one point he was highjacking agdg and stuffing his shitty "yesdev" youtube tutorials in the resources even while everyone kept screaming at him to stop.
Anime shitposters like him have always been desperate to make the OPs of these threads. It's a burden agdg will always have to bear.

>>122056038
sorry dude i just prefer 2D games, 3D games are kinda boring, just a personal taste

>>122055698
>reee steamchat reee
Is the number one shitposting meme. If shitposters hate steamchat so much there must be something good about it. If you think any of us honestly want to spend time in your pedo lair IRC you must be crazy. From what I saw of steamchat they're perfectly nice people who talk zero shit and just want to dev and be nice to eachother. A total 180 from the
>reee steamchat normies reee
shitposters.

>>122056156
>tutorials
I should rephrase, "tutorials" is a polite way of saying "videos that teach you nothing crammed with footage of other agdg projects used without permission ". His "tutorials" consisted of him laughing at you and telling you to not even try gamedev basically.
He was also really big on the
>if you're trying to make games to make money or be a success STOP RIGHT NOW
>by the way please come buy my 10th steam greenlight submission game!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ0e3QUADw8

>>122056149
Does anyone actually use any of the links in the OP?

Please see this post: >>122055308

>>122049501
success money and power go into same thing because they are superficial
and since alot of faggots here think their pixel games are the second coming of christ and call of duty is shit in comparison.

i agree, wanting to sell your game simply brings all of the above, i just wanted to see who will vote what
if you have a better form of this poll do it

>>122056258
>From what I saw of steamchat they're perfectly nice people who talk zero shit
...
I knew I shouldn't be wasting my time posting about that. I'm going back to dev now.

>>122056564
I use the links of the jams and demo days

>>122056487
>you shouldn't ... uhhh... *slurps cereal* ... uhh... get into game development if you just want to like...uhhh... make money
>TH-THERE'S NO MONEY HERE
>huehue *laughing at own jokes*
>THERE'S NO MONEY
Yeah there's no money in a multi-billion dollar industry. Yeah. There's no money in a field where indie devs can make millions of dollars. Yeah. No money.

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I'm trying to think of names for my game because 57204 isn't good enough. I'd like to keep it either mathematic or something related to circles/triangles cause that seems to be the theme of my game.

Do any of these sound like game names: Ecliptic
Aureole
Congruent

>>122049946
it has to do with alot of things
if you want to sell games you have to finish them
if you want to have reputation you have to finish them
if you want to make money if you have to finish them
anyone can pick up unity and make his own stuff and drop it after a day a month or a year

>>122056564
I think noone does.
Most of those links are there, again, because shitposting.
The engine sections, for example, was there only because someone wanted to add Source to the OP, and it had to disguise it between more indie friendly engines.

>that alloyed thingie
Yeah, it's useful. Also it's outdated. I haven't touched it myself because I don't really understand how open sores source control works, and I don't want to write an OP myself because I feel it would be biased to what I think is important. This is a community after all.

whoever removed the AGDG audiofriends is an asshole, tho

>>122056842
>he doesn't know about the indiepocolypse
heh, you're in for a reality check.

>>122056487
2:11
I almost punched the screen I was so sick of hearing his voice already and he literally slurps cereal in your ear and expects you to continue listening to him like he's an authority on gamedev
Goddamn

>>122056904
>Aureole
Sounds like nipples
>Ecliptic
Sounds like that machine people use to excercise
>Congruent
Sounds like definitely not a game.

Try harder, anon. Maybe the name of a mathematical property/theorem or something. Think The Talos Principle.

>>122056842
money is a biproduct of a gud game, get gud or go home

everyone starts doing shitty games tho

>>122056487
Is there any message in this beyond
>don't even try
?

>>122056648
>if you have a better form of this poll do it
I have better things to do than spam disingenuous strawpolls intended to sway public opinions in agdg, shitposter.

>>122056905
>if you want to sell games you have to finish them
If you haven't heard of early access games why should anyone listen to you? Yours poll are shit and so are your excuses for making them.

>>122057121
Thanks for the input. I'll get back into my fractal study. There's probably some good stuff there. The apollonian net was an inspiration for the game but I don't think "Apollonia" is a game name. I'll keep looking.

>>122056920
>Also it's outdated
I know, sorry
If you want to suggest something just go to
https://github.com/Alloyed/agdg-links/blob/master/index.md
and hit the edit button and make your changes and it should suggest them to me
or just post them here, that's fine too

>>122057876
The Apollonian Gasket sounds badass, though.
But I see that you're aiming for a one word name.

>>122057794
early access games have to promise well and beyond finished games and also have a good alpha
>>122057571
you literally overcomplicated yourself with the notion of success, not my fault
some people sell games for various reason and want more than a newgrounds headliner

I've lost my sense of direction
:(

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>>122058017
I don't need to, I would like to make it that actually. Does this gameplay look like the game "Apollonian Gasket" to you?

>>122058018
>early access games have to promise well and beyond finished games and also have a good alpha
And? They directly contradict your assertion that only finished games can be sold.
Nice attempt at deflection.
>you literally overcomplicated yourself with the notion of success
You sure about that? You're the one trying to accuse anyone who finds success of seeking popularity and wealth, when for all you know some of us consider selling a single game a success, and have no desire for popularity.
You seem to be projecting your own insecurities into strawpolls which is common with shitposters.

>>122058018
Early access games can get greenlit for simply having a trailer... maybe you should stop posting.

>>122058302
Not at all
Maybe if it were steampunk

like gaskets are the opposite of abstract, they're very concrete and functional things, and your game seems very removed from reality/abstract

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I've started replacing the placeholder graphics for this dungeon, but the room design has been giving me trouble. I think I'm going to just stick with this for now.

>>122058302
I know what the game is, one of my favs from the demo day.
Apollonian Gasket might be a bit too weird for your average internet dude.
If you want a more memorable name related to fractals, why not go with some of the fractal dimensions? Something like Hausdorff dimension or Asouad dimension, where the word "dimension" is more relatable to normal people, and it sounds like "weird place" instead of "way of measuring fractals"

>>122058006
>sorry
Didn't mean to diss, I didn't even know you were still around. That agdg-links has been there since forever ago.
I'll probably write something tomorrow after some research.

>>122058279
>anon's sex life

>>122058539
I'll save it for another game then.

>>122058594
>If you want a more memorable name related to fractals, why not go with some of the fractal dimensions?

I like that, thanks.

I appreciate the help guys. Back to the search.

>>122058374
if ur early access is ubershit or broken it can get taken down with ease,you won't get away with selling shit either way
>>122058374
im not a shitposter, please call out anime spammers before you do that

>>122058831
>im not a shitposter
Nothing about your posts or your poll leads me to believe that you're anything but.
Ignored.

>>122058931
>won't call out dramafags
>won't call out anime spam
>BEWARE SHITPOSTER

sounds like a case of kekholding

What is a simple but useful tool I could pump out in a night

>>122046141
>72 answers to a poll intended for yesdevs
>implying there are 72 games being created here
Nodevs sure love to play make believe.

>>122059910
Make a clock that counts your time in years, days, hours and seconds.
>You've been avoiding installing Unity for __ years __ days __ hours and ___ seconds
You could also precede with
>You've wasted ___ years __ days __ hours and ___ seconds of your life not making a game

got started with game maker a couple days ago
if i posted some GML code here would you guys help or laugh at me?
i don't really want to make an account on the official forum

>>122060553
Some will laugh at you.
Some will shitpost.
Some will help.
Man up and post.

>>122059910
I've got a simple but useful tool you could pump out tonight

>>122060553
do it, everything you do in this life has a consequence anyway

>>122047395
>body animation is smooth
>eye just switches states in a single frame
git gud you fuck!

freckles are my thing tho

>>122060553
>Caring about opinions on the internet
If one person helps you, and ten laugh, you still came out ahead.

>>122060905
I dunno, Anonymous
Are you sure I'm qualified to handle your tool?

I finally fixed a bug where the hotdog sprite -- and ONLY the hotdog sprite -- wasn't being rendered.

>>122062005
>nvm fixed it!
anon at least tell us what was up

>>122062184
It's boring.
It turns out I had accidentally set it to render frame #2, even though there was only 1 frame, so it was actually being rendered the whole time, it's just that the destination rect was off so I couldn't see it.

>tfw ever since you started making games you've lost interest in actually playing games

>>122063227
>tfw playing games makes me want to dev
>tfw devving makes me want to play more games
feels good.

>>122063336
feels so damn good

>>>/wsg/825363
>>>/wsg/825363
>>>/wsg/825363

how do i make a ror clone not look like ror

Is it okay to release a game on PC and natively support PlayStation controllers, including using the face button symbols?

>>122063865
different enemies, different playable characters, different graphics, different name, different item effects.

If you copy and then alter enough things, it'll eventually just be your own game.

>everyone ignores my game
>get upset and start working harder so that I can one day put all those assholes who ignored me in their place
>somebody looks at my game and likes it so much they want to help me make it
>immediately want to quit

this is why I don't have nice things

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>>122063865
just invert the colors m8.

>>122064142
>someone seriously talented wants to contribute to my game
>deliberately ignore their emails for days so i dont seem desperate

>>122064394
Waiting 24 hours is probably good enough, gives the impression that you check once a day.

>>122064142
Why would you want to quit after the first sign that your game is going to have a following? Too scared to tell the person "Sorry, not taking volunteers"? If you're a 1MA stay 1MA.

hahahahahahaha

>>122064506
Yeah, no longer than a day ffs.

Way more important to not appear incompetent.

> hurdur I'm working on a team project but I only check my e-mail once a week

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Not much for gameplay progress today.
But at least I got some concept art done,

>>122064698
success is a strange, scary thing I've never experienced before

meanwhile failure is a warm coffin I can go to sleep inside forever

>>122047058
I thought the location thing was to help pick a server location?

>>122065753
If you don't plan on ever waking up, how will you get to know what it's like?

>>122051779
>>122052414
>>122052767
>>122052173

Just... stop... please... dear god

You are killing me here.
Your posts are causing me physical pain, I really hope you are shitposting.

> I want to make a game
> I don't want to learn to code
> I don't want the ONLY WORLD RENOWN EXTENSIVELY DOCUMENTED 3D ENGINE that requires minimum programing knowledge to use because I could possibly have to eventually pay them cents
> muh principles
> How about this obviously inferior 3rd party extension that people say isn't worth it


Your ego, dude. I refuse to believe you aren't a meme.

LEARN TO CODE, PAY A PROGRAMMER OR GET THE FUCK OFF.

There's no way around it. You are being so willingfully ignorant and trying to find a way to "cheat" while taking about principles.

Jesus Christ.

>>122066297
>ONLY WORLD RENOWN EXTENSIVELY DOCUMENTED 3D ENGINE
are you referring to Unity or Unreal

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>>122065328
She looks like she'd smell like milk.

tfw she looks like my ex gf and pale, dark haired girls with thick eyebrows are my only type now

ok, im thinking of putting the unreal/unity/3d engine games i want to make on hold so that i can just make a quick little thing to get my foot out the door

the problem is that all of my ideas i currently have could only really work in a 3d, polygonal context, and i don't want to do another fucking 2d platformer retread

>>122066664
> 3D ENGINE that requires minimum programing knowledge to use

I'm talking about unreal.
I'm an Unityfag, btw. but credit due where it's due.

What's a good way to code something like a double jump unlock without adding hacky specific code for it like:

if (jumping && onlyJumpedOnce && hasItem(doubleJumpItem)) jump();

>>122066749
>She looks like she'd smell like milk.
What? Some people smell like milk?

>he still hasn't gone component based

>>122067319
White people often smell like milk.

>>122067418
>components
Love this meme

>>122067313
I think I'd make two separate jump states instead of doing a bunch of ands.

>>122067418
I've come in on one end and out the other
now I just store 0-inheritance objects with no real components in a singleton and it works out just fine

>>122066834
like what?

>>122068246
You're asking about my 3d game ideas?

They're all action oriented, emphasis on fighting on varied terrain. Kinda like Dark Souls I guess

>>122067313
I'd do a jumping delegate, and then swap it out for the doublejump one once they got the powerup

>>122068391
good luck, i can give some animation advice if you need

>>122069072
I appreciate it, but I think I'm ok on that.

I am going to just try a smaller scale game, afterall

>>122067809
But that's not extendable. What if you had something that let you triple or quad jump? Now you need 2 more states.

>>122069836
codegen.
DoubleJumpState = JumpState(2)
TripleJumpState = JumpState(3)
etc.

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I made a binding to lua!
Test script, made the char move and jump.

>>122069836
Okay then, big guy. How about you add a jump count variable and a max jump count variable that comes from your multiple jump ability level and then when you get the jump input while in the jump state check if jumpCount is less than maxJumpCount and jump() as necessary.

If having having the simplest most efficient code is so important, why are you using OOP and why can't you write this yourself?

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>>122070356
>semicolons in lua

>>122054720
Banished.

>>122070513
Even though there's plusses, it's still a single line. I need the semicolons.

>>122070728
you actually don't, take them out and see what happens

Convince me that spell crafting is a terrible idea to implement in my game.

Have a working (university-level) understanding of C++.

What concepts and knowledge do you think you should have in C++ to start 3D development in UE4?

>>122071085
That guy's making his 3D beat 'em up with nothing but blueprints, I'd imagine you're already set to make your masterpiece.

Has any indie dev actually finished a game with an entity component system?

>>122071550
unity has a kind of component system, it just doesnt use full blown data oriented design

>>122071738
>unity has a kind of component system
No it doesn't. Data and logic are combined. There's nothing operating on components, the components act on their own data. In an ECS you'd have components with data and systems acting on that data.

Can someone rewrite this shader so it shows its full colors regardless of lighting? I don't know the right terminology but in game its too dark, when I change the shader to "unlit" it looks correct but a library Im using breaks because the unlit shader doesn't have a traffic layer.

http://pastebin.com/63dvPkEK

>>122072484
o.Albedo = _Color; maybe?

>>122047058
if ur in aus sanfran is closer than singapore coz both route via la, so singapore is slow.as.fuck

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>>122054445

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AI working, albeit clunky

>>122073885
cute
kind of slow though

>>122073885
>let's mine this rock!
>with woodcutting axes!
>it is made of gelatin!

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Making a 2D zelda-like for practice and fun this winter.
No random generation. Pretty standard. Got a fair amount of base mechanics finished up.

Any ideas for some interesting mechanics or gameplay/world twists to add?

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a pandemic-style game where you play as a meme and need to proliferate yourself through the internet

>>122073885
do you use textures or primarily material colors?

>>122074927
my texture is a palette swatch

>>122074980
alright, i like the animations and colors

>>122074272
>world twists
a horrible storm strikes the coastline causing landslides, flooding, etc. All the people take shelter in mountain caves and are safe, but the world is permanently changed.

>Be OD&Dfag
>Write "Reroll the first successful attack against this character each round"
>Remember the player doesn't roll any dice

>>122073885

is this duck fortress

>>122075380
or you could, like, just write it in a text document instead of going through the trouble of making a prompt
:/

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>2 new versions came out since I last opened UE4

How do I stop the no-deving ? If it keeps going at this rate I'll have to re-learn everything.

>>122075120
Add a physical dice in the game which the player has to roll before attacking.

>>122075724
Don't upgrade

>black thing growing in lower left part of toenail
>scrape it off
>it grows back
help

How to give an object a parent while in-game in Gamemaker Studio?

'set_object_parent' is supposedly obsolete?

I don't want the parent already set before the game starts because the player needs to choose his team first, but I want the player to be assigned to his team via parent object obj_red_team for example, by the time the match is underway.

I'm trying to avoid adding more variables to the if statement.

Here's what I want to put:

//(Slap Attack Left) If standing on wall object, and facing left, and RED TEAM is within melee attack distance, and slap is available, use Slap Attack Left.

if image_xscale == 1 //if facing left
and can_slap == 1 //if slap attack is available
and (place_meeting(x-100,y+0,obj_red_team)) //if obj_red_team is 100 pixels to the left
and (place_meeting (x,y+1,obj_wall)) //if standing on obj_wall
{
sprite_index = spr_slap_attack; //current animation changed to slapping animation
alarm[4] = 60; //cooldown for can_slap
alarm[5] = 20; //create instance of obj_slap_collision_left after 20 steps
}

But this code won't work until the player has been assigned to a team, and I want the code to adjust to whatever team is being picked, not necessarily just red.

This happens consistently with scripting. I feel like I'm so close to figuring it out, only to find out I need to add another step to the code, but that step needs another variable clarified, and then that one needs another, and it goes on forever until somehow I manage to chase down enough variables. And by that time I always have a huge list of 'ifs' in the if statement.

>>122076726
I don't really see why you wouldn't want to solve this problem by adding another variable, but if you really want to use inheritance you could just make two classes derived from both player and obj_team: 'player_red' and 'player_blue'. I'm not sure whether Game Maker permits inheriting from multiple sources, however.

Also, you shouldn't use the rendering options of an instance to represent its state, such as you're doing now to test if it's facing left. Instead make a separate member variable and making the rendering options parallel that. It's less error-prone.

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>>122075471
>implying it's not the fastest way to enable user content creation

>>122070728
You don't if you add \n at the end of every line.

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>>122076726
>if (no parentheses)
>if (boolean_variable == 1)
learn to program first

>>122077340
>windows
>haskell
ebin maymay bro, take my le upboat

>>122077446
Under some variants, an if with no parentheses means stop here if it ain't true.

>>122077074
>I don't really see why you wouldn't want to solve this problem by adding another variable
I had a reason for it but it was confusing enough that it somehow didn't work because I need the variable to be adjustable. I can try again, maybe it's really late and I'm dumb but I'll give it another shot. A lot of this stuff is new to me, so when I try to think ahead about what variables I need and how all the objects remember the word to describe this scenario, whatever that word is. Like when the numbers are so out there and they don't apply to me yet, but I know they will when the time comes.

>I'm not sure whether Game Maker permits inheriting from multiple sources, however.
Gamemaker only allows you to choose one parent object.

>make a separate member variable and making the rendering options parallel that. It's less error-prone.
Thanks! So this is why it acts wonky when I try to turn left and right while an attack is happening. The character stops moving, or gets an extra attack. Or sometimes it just works as intended. I'll separate them now.

>>122077580
Which?

Earlier today I shat out a bit of bright red blood

do I have cancer?

>>122075471
Actually tools like that are super useful in speeding the process up... Though far superior would be fields he could change, rather than prompting one by one.

But yeah, I think in this specific case Notepad(++) has him beat out.

>>122077663
I should also point out, in addition to not being the guy who posted the code, I don't know GameMaker Studio - but in the MSC Scripting language, that's how that works. *shrug*

if !THIS_AINT_TRUE //omg philosophical paradox!
callevent dosomethin

(Though the boolean critique on the other hand...)

u guys suk

>>122077843
ok

where is anubisdev

>>122077834
If you want to get a feel for GML, imagine a retarded amputee C.

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i<3u2 Anonymous-senpai desu~

>>122077978
C could use some amputation - but most scripting languages are that way. They are also all blurring together for me these days, been through so many. Seems every other game has its own independent scripting language these days - thought LUA woulda put an end to that, but alas.

>>122077684
please I need to know but not enough to go to a doctor and ask

>>122077961
Sup?

>>122078162
do you have any progress blog or something?

>>122078206
harmarist dot com

>>122078093
>C could use some amputation
maybe in terms of style, but that's all superficial crap. GML has no pointers, no code-only structs, the arrays are shithouse, it's slower than a special olympics runner up so anything you need for computationally intensive code is behind a callback function, and any of the decent implementations like OOP are hamfisted

scripting languages are nice for simple design stuff, but as soon as you step outside that boundary, which unfortunately GML slightly does, it gets awkward

>>122077684
If it is painless, you may have piles/hemorrhoids. High fibre diet will help.

Using vi editor may cause anal bleeding too though, so quit using it for the sake of your health.

>>122078162
How much money did drawing gay furry wanking pictures ever get you? I'm wondering because I need a bit of extra income to pay for music library licenses and I'd prefer selling my dignity over getting a loan.

>>122078341
Meh, no one's invented "the perfect language", but the main point of a scripting language is to macro-manage tasks, and make it more accessible to the layman. Pointers are usually the first thing they get rid of, as that goes in the category of unintuitive for most beginners. (Plus, provided you have a function to access the properties of the object, and copy objects, you don't really need them.) While the lack of structs in a lot of them ticks me off sometimes, the better ones get rid of variable types and provide simpler scope control as well, which is kinda of nice.

...and really, given the sophistication of compilers these days, C, and all its flavors, could do a lot more stuff for you, without simultaneously preventing access to better optimization and nitty gritty stuff.

Still, one does not normally expect to add simplicity without some sacrifice of control. It'd just be nice if more languages provided a happier medium - but much like what goes on a pizza, it's rare to find two people who can agree as to what that happy medium is.

Idea guys, what are some thematic special abilities for a big guy with a big sword?

>>122078771
you can always roll your own

>>122077684
Happens to me when I sit 18 hours straight a day for a month, only moving when I need to take a shit. aka when I dev seriously.
It's probably just hemorrhoids.

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>>122078771
>>122078341
I like pointers.

>>122079048
saved

>>122078681
Enough to pay my bills.

Post idea, quick! I need something that can be made in a week or two.

>>122079104
That's not very helpful. I was looking for a more concrete number.

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>>122078952
Too busy slogging through near everyone else's.

Besides, everyone else would hate it, and I'm sure it'd end up running like ass.

>>122078930
Pic related... Plus crazy whirlwind attack. Tossing the sword and having it spin-slice everything in a line. Plant sword in ground, explodes. Blasts of fire from sword. Shadow dancing ghost of sword, etc. etc. The usual. What's useful depends a bit if you're first person, third person, or above view.

>>122079141
>TFW you are a skilled artist, programmer, composer, voice actor, journalist cocksucker, marketer, writer, and computer manufacturer but you can't find an idea guy to work with you
Well since I don't have any ideas I can't do anything I guess I should give up.

>>122079160
The game is turn-based. I have the most stupid problem imaginable: since attacks always come in flurries of 3 at a time I can't find a way to make cleaving through multiple opponents not look really stupid.

>>122076726
Same anon here. I realized why I need to avoid variables.

So when the game runs and player 1 selects the versus mode, it will go to a character select screen.

The player will choose his team (blue) and then his character, and then his teammates, and then the enemy's team (red). Then the match starts (Human and AIs vs AIs).

When the enemy character gets within a certain distance, it needs to automatically attack the player. The problem is that I can't set objects to automatically be enemies because they can also be chosen to be on the same team. I need temporary teams, not permanent ones.

Below is the full code for the enemy attacking the player. (Same thing as earlier but without deleting what I thought was unnecessary to show you guys) Notice how both teams are already set in stone with 'player' and 'enemy'. I want the obj_player to be 'dynamic'. As in how do I get the obj_player to change to something like obj_enemy_team_for _this_match_only? I can't use 'enemy team' as a variable because what if I chose the current enemy as an ally? lol I can't even describe what I need because I don't think it exists. I need an object that can be assigned a parent whenever I want, but I need that object to 'be' the parent too. Does that even make sense? Like when obj_player is detected, I actually want the parent to be detected instead.

(Ran out of space so will post code in next reply)

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>>122079141
>>122079290
You wanna do a game in a hurry for a programing course or something?

Try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG0XBz68AoM
...save all that modeling, art, and graphics effort, and hope your instructor doesn't realize you stole the idea.

(Actually didn't involve any code - it's just a Source map.)

Here's the code for:
>>122079430

//enemy attacks player when player gets within range

if image_xscale == 1 //if facing left
and red_is_slowed == 0
and red_is_stunned == 0
and can_stomp == 1
and (
(place_meeting(x-700,y+0,obj_player)) //if obj_kat5 is 700, 600, 500, 400, 300, 200, or 100 pixels to the left
or (place_meeting(x-600,y+0,obj_player))
or (place_meeting(x-500,y+0,obj_player))
or (place_meeting(x-400,y+0,obj_player))
or (place_meeting(x-300,y+0,obj_player))
or (place_meeting(x-200,y+0,obj_player))
or (place_meeting(x-100,y+0,obj_player))
)
and (place_meeting(x,y+1,obj_wall))
{
sprite_index = spr_enemy_purple_stomp; //changed to stomping animation
image_index = 0; //restart animation from first frame
purple_can_move = 0;
can_stomp = 0;
movespeed = 0;
alarm[2] = 300; //For can_stomp
alarm[3] = 50; //For purple_can_move
timeline_index = tl_stomp_dust_small_left;
timeline_position = 0;
timeline_running = true;
}

>>122079516
lol replace obj_kat5 with obj_player. Forgot to change that too.

>>122079619
>kat5
>not kat8
It's like you don't even domg

>>122079146
Clearing a hundred or two hundred per day is fairly typical if you have a fanbase and enjoy streaming.

>>122079443
If you remove the video from a video game, is it really still a video game?

>>122079719
All right, thanks a lot mate.

>>122079741
The video is not removed. It is a black screen, intended to make you feel blind :^)

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>>122079741
That would fall within the purview of your conundrums of philosophy. I solve practical problems.

PGDG, how's this quarter's profits?

>>122079917
Excellent. I've earned five thousand pepes, a few of which are quite rare.

Ok. So I started playing Minecraft, and I got flooded with memories. I came up with the idea, and most parts of the game, which I told to someone in University. They were building the game, and would constantly ask me what to do next. I didn't really care too much because of how busy I was at the time. No one believes me though. I barely believe it myself, but I remember too many details about it.

I don't want any money or anything, even though I'm struggling right now. What I would want in an official endorsement, to help me get funding for an idea that I really want to do. Anyone have any thoughts?

And I expect a lot of people to call BS. Go ahead IDC.

>>122079917
Still operating at a loss.

>>122080376
lol

how viable is c++ for actually making games?

>>122080376
I can't recall how many times I have had a brilliant flash of inspiration, only to find that someone else has already thought of it in uncannily similar detail.

Ew... This hurts just to look at. I pitty you, if it's really making you do things this way.

Does not the language in question allow you to pull the range between two objects? Can you make a function for that? Is it possible for the target to somehow teleport within that range and not trigger it? If not, and the previous isn't available, can't you just check the min and max ranges? Can you dump place_meeting into a variable and pull the X vec just to make this look cleaner, at least?

Also, for sake of optimization, unless that last and conditional is nearly always true, you wanna do that "//if obj_kat5 is 700, 600, 500, 400, 300, 200, or 100" check last. Check whatever's least likely to be true first, and do the most complex check last. (Though it seems it should not need to be that complex to find if something is 100-700 units range.)

>>122080452
Only if you use UE4.

>>122080376
Get over it. I don't know that you actually had the idea. But let's assume that you did.

Ideas don't get money or fame. Execution of ideas gets money and fame. Your idea is worthless. It doesn't accomplish anything. Unless you had actually implemented the whole game yourself and Notch forcibly stole the source code from you, then you're too late.

>>122079917
The game has not shipped yet, so I can't submit any financial reports or earnings.

>>122080452
It's shitty
Just use C

https://picarto.tv/virushunter

>>122080452
Most games are made in C++ or a variant of these days, usually with an SDK sitting on top of an engine, that is similarly, in C++ or variant.

But it's also about the hardest way to do it, which is why there's all these game creator scripting engines and UI's and LUA, etc. etc. (Albeit, sometimes these do more harm than good.)

>>122080376
Then that sucks for you.

You had an idea.

He made the game.

That means its his game.

It doesn't matter who had the original idea.

The person who made it is the one who gets the credit.

Without him, there would be nothing.

Thus it is not yours.

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>>122080376
No one wants your shitty idea.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.146453-221-Why-Your-Game-Idea-Sucks

>>122080626
>oops a slinky fell out
what the fuck was that

>>122080376
There's a thousand survival games out there that are some variant of Minecraft now, so you missed the boat.

...and you don't need funding for that. You just need a lot of determination. Minecraft was written in Java by one autistic maniac.

>>122080376
You should come up with another idea and then do some of the actual work in making it into a reality.

>>122080785
>>122080376
Oops that's what I get for not even opening the link from Google.

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/video-games/issues/issue_221/6582-Why-Your-Game-Idea-Sucks

>>122080472
>>122079516
Reply fail.

>>122080785
>>122080845
Surely she can't mean my idea. My idea is awesome.
It must be everyone else's ideas she's talking about.

>>122079516
someone's never heard of collision_line

post progress - receive fanart

>>122080472
Thanks, I'll try all of these. At the time I just wanted to see this thing in action so I got too excited and only used what I knew at the time (Which was very little). I'm going back and fixing the code to be more legible, but this enemy object is still largely untouched since I haven't gotten back to it yet. Right now I'm focusing on UI stuff so that's why I need to know how to implement teams. Once I have the main gameplay actually in the game, then I'll work on cleaning it up.

You should have seen the rest of it. There's still behaviors and collisions for about 240 lines of code, all in the same spot, with half of them being copy-pasted because I have separate identical code for everything when the enemy looks in the other direction. And that's just for the AI enemy. The player character used to have over 2,500 lines of code in the same block of code, half of it also copy-pasted when the player looked in another direction.

>>122081132
Good night, my love

>>122081147
I think >>122081048 is right. You have a function for this that would be less complex and more dependable:
http://docs.yoyogames.com/source/dadiospice/002_reference/movement%20and%20collisions/collisions/collision_line.html

>>122081048
For me it's easier to keep track of distance when I have the values set up this way because the enemy will use a different move depending on how close they are. I was testing the different distances to see which ones worked for this particular attack. I don't have the other attacks ready yet so for now I've filled them with this one attack. But yeah, I should probably change it soon.

>>122080376
Isn't Minecraft just a rip off of Infiniminer?

>>122081405
yes

and it got more popular because of creative mode, which infiniminer didn't have

>>122081519
So that guy came up with the idea to Infiniminer not Mnecraft, and when did Notch ever go to university?

>>122081528
>4CHAN.ORG/NEWS
>REEK
damn danny youre going wild

or do you still think that there's "something darker" preventing people you dont like from being permabanned

>NOT GAME MODDING GENERAL
>NOT GAME CONTENT GENERAL
>NOT GAME MAPPING GENERAL
>YES GAME DEV GENERAL
>Y E S D E V S O N L Y
at least you got the important part right

this thread still isnt for shitty Source maps

this thread is for games

anon should take his "Source map" and get the fuck out

>>122081613
what are you even talking about, reek

>>122081528
I see what you're going for, but you really shouldn't do that kind of thing.

>>122081613
Is Notch seriously a billionaire with no formal tertiary education?

>>122081698
I'm just wondering how >>122080376 thinks he came up with the idea for Minecraft ...

>>122081867
this is a valid point, he can't claim to have his idea stolen by Notch when Notch stole it from another similar game.

>>122081379
Level design is absolutely game development. If you're doing something which brings the game closer to completion it is part of that game's development.

>>122081812
so's bill gates iirc

american post-secondary education is a total scam with how getting rich in america seems to work

at least in other countries you could become a comfortable middle class technician or professional with a degree, but in america, you're either a nigger of the urban plains or the next Zuckerburg, there is no real inbetween

thanks obama

>>122081940
if it's just a map for someone else's game, not quite

>>122081986
The Stanley Parable was a map for someone else's game. Did it suddenly turn into a game once it became stand-alone? How about DotA?

>>122081967
I use an entity system, but never bothered to learn how a component system works, exactly. I know the theory, kind of.