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Shin Megami Tensei General - /smtg/

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>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final announced
http://megaten4f.jp/

>More information about Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final
http://pastebin.com/Kj5FyHCY

>Shin Megami Tensei IV: Final Trailer 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39SuZbvv9vY

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/bd3Bgfj8

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/Np1ng1kx

>New OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/LHKVLNQB

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/YppqPPjf

>Previous Thread
>>121708257
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First for Mecha Pascal
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Gay
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>>122004048
Looks like an RE monster.
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Why did nobody tell me there was an Isabeau doujin
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>>122004181
There's multiple
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In SMT1 Hero blushes when his mom mentions the neighbour girls name.
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>>122004148
That dog is a lot scarier than all the monsters I've seen up until now. Generic Gargoyles, Goblins, Skeletons, etc. I'm still not at the part with demons.
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>>122004181
Because they're shit.
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>>122004426
And actually, now I remember that I did link it. It's your fault for not lurking more.
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>>122004262
>>122004426
There's also a Persona x Amagi Brilliant Park one for some reason

And too many untranslated Yuzu ones
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>>122001814
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/672441-shin-megami-tensei-iv/68499903
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Anyone know of a good guide for SMT4 neutral?
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>>122005210
look above you
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>>122005210
http://pastebin.com/5ycJB5Ye
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shit megagay titties
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>>122003968
Read the pastebin.
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>>122007574
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>>122007735
not big enough
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>>122007735
Shamefur dispray.

>>122007803
How about these?
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>>122007879
Big, but could be bigger.
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>>122007963
/d/ please.
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ah I love when I'm just in time for a fresh thread
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Too bad it's still as slow as the last one.
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>you will never kick Mary
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>>122011327
I like slow threads, personally.
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Ya know, in hindsight, the Vision Quests offered little to the plot with the exception of Urabe's simply because of the GUMP's password.
Judah's and Naomi's were completely useless except for the gameplay perks/changes they give increase maximum demon slots and change the last boss's properties, respectively
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>>122011849
slow discussion yeah, but not dead slow
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So, uh, did the first volume sell well enough?
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>>122012078
Also, Finnegan was severely underused. I expected him to be some sort of "rival" and yet he barely appears and you don't even get to fight him until death.
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>>121900883
did you not play the first game or something
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>>122012114
Point.

>>122012078
I just got to this Judah's, have yet to actually bdo anything past the opening movie. Sounds like these are gonna be the parts I'll want to get through as quickly as possible.
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>>122012740
If you're on Judah's Vision Quest that's about 20% of the game anon. You're still a long way from the ending. Not that the game is fucking long though. Only took me nearly 20 hours.
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>>122012549
The translator got the go ahead, so now it's a matter of waiting.

We'll still get it before If.
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>>122013061
We'll probably get SMT V before If...
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I just got done with my theoretical physics homework. I got 3 SMT games on my backlog, do I play nocturne, DDS, or Soul Hackers?
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>>122012932
Yeah I know I've barely just begun. Wasn't really jazzed about the first vision quest, though (except that Urabe is awesome).
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nocturne, I think the devil summoner series is best played last, to fully appreciate them
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>>122014985
fuck off
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>>122014389
Urabe > Naomi > Judah
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>>122017385
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lol
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>>122013336
But Anon, Atlus have a problem with number 5.
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>>122017632
Admit it, we'd all do it.
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>>122017385
Fuck off.
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>>122017790
We don't have cool arm computers though. Where the fuck did he get that?
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>>122018102
All master hackers have one.
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>>122017763
>SMT4-2 instead of 5.
>Persona 5 2014 Winter.
>No signs of Trauma Center after the fourth game.
>EO5 a year of nothing after announcement.

make it stop
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>>122018102
I'm more curious how the fuck Hacker's GUMP is actually a good design. It looks cool as fuck but seriously, how the fuck is this comfortable to use?
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>>122018812
>Persona 5 2014 Winter.
I fucking wish
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>>122018812
Did Atlus said anything else about EO5? It's just like they forgot about that game.
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>>122018962
They couldn't anticipate smartphones.
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>>122019201
Smartphones are boring. It's probably the most boring Summoning device in the SMT games. Even summoning from a DS knock off is cooler.
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>>122019427
I don't know, I'm constantly amazed every time I whip out my phone to check something, because I realize that I'm straight out of Star Trek.

>>122019135
Nothing past the announcement and teaser trailer from last year. They're more concerned with EO3 Untold for right now.
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>>122019890
Eh, I do agree that our smartphones nowadays are pretty futuristic but I dunno, seems too simple to just summon from a smartphone. Lacks flair.
Is it comfortable and easy to use? Yes. Is it flashy? Hell, no.
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>>122020139
>seems too simple to just summon from a smartphone
There are preferred methods.
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>>122018962
At least he's not using a sax
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>>122022839
Touché.
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So are these worthy ROMs of SMT and Kyūyaku Megami Tensei? (Didn't feel like downloading a ROM and English patch separately)

Comments for SMT mentions that magic spell descriptions aren't translated.

http://nicoblog.org/snes-rom/shin-megami-tensei-english-patched/

http://nicoblog.org/snes-rom/kyuuyaku-megami-tensei-english-patched/
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>>122024287
We have links for the patched roms in our pastebins up top, just use those.
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>>122024418
Oh, I thought it was only links for the patches but not the roms. Cool.
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>>122024418
Seriously, does no one use the fucking pastebin at all? C'mon.
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>>122024287
>>122024418
KMT is in the tips and tricks one for some reason, need to put it on the downloads one sometime
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>>122024546
>>122024604
Yeah, it's in Tips and Tricks, which I've never felt the need to go into 'cause I thought it was in-game tips and stuff. Well damn.
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>Do one of the 100 demon fights in Soulless Army
>Get less EXP and MAG and shit than if I had probably fought a single enemy

Fucking really?
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>>122024418
>>122025091
Also the Dropbox links for SMT 1&II appear to be just the English patches and not the games themselves, am I correct?
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>>122025407
no, they're the patched games.
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>>122025691
Oh, good, I don't have to travel around to hunt, then. Thanky.

I might suggest re-naming the pastebin document to "info and tips" or something.
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>>122025942
We really need to overhaul the pastebins in general
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>>122005934
We need more Isabeau in here
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>>122029598
>if you but anything between those
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>>122030228
walder is spurdo fug :DDDDDD
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Saving this thread with a well thought out HOY!
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I've been playing SMT IV and I just got to where you get the black demonica and I love this game so much! What should play after it?
I was thinking about getting Soul Hackers but I was also thinking about gettting Nocturne and DDS 1 and 2
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>>122034297
Soul Hackers is said to be a bit harder to get into if you're new to the series. Both Nocturne and DDS are good choices.
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>>122034297
Nocturne might be your best choice, since it's such a classic.

And once you're done with that, if you still want more press turn, move on to DDS. But if you want something new, try SH.
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>>122035148
I'm playing Soul Hackers now as my first SMT (though I also played around in Persona Q and by extension the Etrian Odyssey games) and I'm really enjoying it.
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>>122037290
>and by extension the Etrian Odyssey games
Then you're good. Strange Journey is dungeon-crawling as well so you might enjoy it. Persona Q is advised after P3 and P4 but you can enjoy the game nonetheless, obviously.
It's just that SH is a port from an old game which you can tell by playing and might be off-putting to some, hence the "after playing a few more" advice usually. Doesn't mean it's not a good starting point anyways.
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>>122037512
I pissed off do many Purseowners by telling them I was playing Q without experiencing P3 and P4, haha. Fuck em, I'm having fun.

>Strange Journey is dungeon-crawling as well so you might enjoy it.
Saw it at a local shop last week and almost bought it. I plan on playing it eventually. The Antarctica sci-fi setting totally jives with me.

>It's just that SH is a port from an old game which you can tell by playing and might be off-putting to some
I'm actually loving it for how dated it feels. It gives me a big nostalgia boner.
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>>122040289
yeah I love that retro future vibe it has going for it, but in this day and age everyone wants either cute graphics or realistic graphics, whatever happened to style
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Welp Benetnasch is fucking impossible I cant beat it. I'm going full STR and the son of a bitch attack me from half the map distance and also reflect physical attacks
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>>122041715
Where you paying attention to anything said beforehand?
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>>122041715
Benny has to be done in by demons, the leaders wont be of much offensive use so pump em full of support skills
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>>122041861
It would be nice if I can reach it to attack in the first place. I guess I'm gonna grind free battles.
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>Playing Strange Journey for the first time
>Get to Maya
>Instantly kills me right at the start of the fight when I null both light and dark
Well
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This is a dream.
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Cozy /smt/ thread? Cozy /smt/ thread! What you playing/replaying?
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>>122046591

Started replaying Raidou 2 after filling out the compendium in the first game.

I missed you, superior battle system and faster walking speed.
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>>122046591
>Cozy /smt/ thread?
He hasn't been SMT for years, though. Rip in piece.
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>>122042890
Mother Maya is a bitch. I went to her underleveled the first time, and I only won because Kresnik is the bro to end all bros. Lost a Luster Candy slave to her bullshit mid-fight when I tried to get its MP back off of her, which made the end of the fight pretty tense because I'd run out of revival and chakra items bringing it back, so it was really down to underleveled Space Marine and equally underleveled Kresnik after she wiped the other two team members more naturally... But we pulled it off by just firing guns at the bitch like we'd been doing. Kresnik was losing MP on his gun technique too, it was like the last chance he had to pull it off. Is just nullifying both Hama and Mudo enough to get her to kill you?
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>>122047483
>Is just nullifying both Hama and Mudo enough to get her to kill you?
I thought casting an elemental spell does it.
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>>122048187
Elemental or Almighty attacks, I know. Didn't think there was anything else.
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>>122047483
>bitch

Hey, you can't talk to your mother like that!
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Open up we're the police, we heard talk about a dead thread around this area.
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>>122051959
Ugh dead threads
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>>122052572
Don't worry, we're sending our top investigator to help out with the case
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>>122052572
The best way to liven up the thread is by posting Jeck Frists, of course.
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>>122054485
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That moment when you first see the protag's name in red.
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>>122055016
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>>122054485
I'd be more than hee-happy to help with this no-ho-ble mission, hee ho!
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>>122055224
Currently in Delphinus and I have yet to stray away from neutral.
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>>122055224
I accidentally went law for a bit because I was too nice during my first playthrough of strange journey.
I had to act like a human-hating defeatist to the bosses in Fornax to even it out to neutral.
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>>122054485
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>>122054485
Got your back!
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>>122055790
>with piercings
Okay, I laughed
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what are the chances of smiv final having a different name for the americas? its a pretty stupid marketing idea to sell with that name over here. Also, can i /r/ smt mechas, cyborgs and mechanical guts also count. thanks /smtniggers/
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Aww yiss.
Got me emulator and Kyūyaku Megami Tensei finally up and working. This oughta be some light fun in between Soul Hackers.
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>>122056505
>light

Uh-oh
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>>122056139
I doubt the name will change. Keep in mind Atlus USA kept PersonaQ intact
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>>122055338
Lucifrost better be in Final. He has literally been in like 1 game. Easily the best frost after the original and Demoneeho.
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Black Frost
Pyro Jack
Jack the Ripper
Lucifrost
Frost Five
Jack Frost
Raihou
Demonee-ho

What am I missing?
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>>122056863
Frost Ace
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>>122056863
Frost Ace
Hairy Jack
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>>122056839
That's not what literally means, he's been in 3.

Hell, he has more appearances that the Frost Five
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>>122056863
Hee Ho kun
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>>122056590
That's w-what I figured.
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>>122056863
Me, ho.
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>>122056863
King Frost
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>>122056839
>Imfuckingplying
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Aw fuck, emulator crashed already. Poo-ho.
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>no gambling jack called Blackjack
There should be.
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>>122057692
That's racist.
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>>122057692
>no cooking jack called Flap Jack

it's like they want their games to not sell
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>>122057692
>No Samurai Jack
Shit game. 0/10.
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>>122057692
>No low level sailor demon called Cracker Jack
disappointed
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>>122057692
>No alcoholic demon called applejack
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Emulating Raidou, for some reason when anything moves it gets a very distracting pixelated blur, what did I fuck up?
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>>122057692
>No Jacked Frost and Pyro Jacked
what is this
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>>122057692
>no Spring-Heeled Jack
>no Jack in the Box
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>>122057692
>Jack Frost has low Agi
>Jack isn't nimble
>Jack isn't quick
>he couldn't even jump over a candlestick
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>>122057692
>no construction worker jack named Jack Hammer
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>>122057692
Not enough fusion material.
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>>122046591
Post game dungeon of Soul Hackers right here. I also bought DeSuO, but I dropped the game after the second battle with Kudlak.
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>>122057756
Nigga you a busta
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>>122057692
>no Walter-Jack called Hee Hoy
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>>122060971
If this would ever happen, it'd be in FINAL
Keep the dream Alive
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>>122041154
I loved Soul Hackers ascetic. It's a real shame that it doesn't show up anymore.
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>>122060971
>>122061220
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>>122061240
also in all my years, I've never experienced an OST as atmospheric and fitting as soul hackers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7nEqCSD9QI
>those fucking transitions
YES
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Hoy
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>>122065421
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Right now I'm level 20 in the Ikebukuro Region in smt iv. How underleveled am I?
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>>122065850
go fight a boss and if you can kill it you're fine
these games are long anon, most of us only remember what level we beat the game at
and even I forgot that
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>>122065850
A bit. You can go through the game underleveled though, it's fine
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>>122065850
Your level should be the same as the boss's, for the most part.
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So is Medusa the last hard boss in IV? All of the other bosses were really easy compared to her and the minotaur
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>>122067050
They get hard again starting at Kenji.
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>>122067050
Medusa wasn't hard, Beelzebub is the only challenge you can have in the game without paying for DLC.
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>>122067050
Nah. The game picks up the difficulty randomly, but the game gets more challenging eventually.
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>>122067050
after Medusa I never died until I fought Merkabah the first time, so I went out and did sidequests then fought him again and won.
Beelzebub is an actually challenging fight, but he's after the alignment lock. the DLC bosses are almost Demifiend levels of bullshit
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SMT x Precure
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>>122068641
What if all the trailers and pre release stuff for SMT x FE was a ruse and we got a real smt x fe game?
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>>122068724
t-there is a direct tomorrow....
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>>122003958
>Play SMTIV on a clean new file answering honestly all the questions
>Never check with the cynical man
>Think I'm neutral as fuck
>Reach Tenkai
>Asks me for my aligment
>Answer Freedom and Order
>Turns out I'm not Neutral as I though
Why the hell is the fucking passage of ethics so damn rigged towards chaos?
>It's on the Ring of Gaea
Of course, that's why. Silly me.
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>>122068724
The dream is dead man. This is Neo-Atlus we are talking about here. After Final it'll probably be awhile till we get another SMT game.
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>>122071717
Ring of Gaea >>> Order of Messiah
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>>122074139

nah
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>>122074139
fuck them both, quite really. Mesians and Gaians make gread fusion fodder, though.
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"Trailer review" people will do anything for youtube views won't they?
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>>122074378
Literally the only cool law design
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>>122077530
>Implying
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Str or Mag on SMTIV?, playing for the first time
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>>122078135
WORLD OF dex
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>>122078203
Why Dex and not Str?
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>>122078295
Dex has more influence than Str does for physical based attacks.
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>>122078316
Oh, i see, thanks
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>>122004048
Giten megami tensei translation when
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Nozomi needs more love
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>>122080602
I still find it funny that they picked up Nozomi for Final.
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>>122078648
Honestly, the game's navigation and graphics are pretty bad. The game should be a cinch to translate, someone just needs to find out the compression algorithm.
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>>122034297
I'm playing SH now and still not feeling it, I don't know what it is but for every SMT game I played so far there was this moment that had me hooked, didn't happen with SH yet I'm 10+ hours in ;_;

Go with Nocturne
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>save and go to next lvl
>40m crawling/recruiting/fusing
>0 mp and I can't find the next terminal I will go back to lvl 2 and save/heal
>surprise attack
>game over
>turn off dsi
>fuck this shitty game
>come back today
>the fucking same happens in the next level
>my window and dsi are broken now
FUCK THIS GAME
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>>122085140
The only reasons for liking SH are the story and the music.
The gameplay is kinda bad.
>MC doesn't learn sklls that means no custom builds
>uncontrollable demons
>demons don't level
>Personalities fuck up any inherited skills
>Nemissa has 3 pre made builds only and only one viable stat build
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>>122086340
The gameplay is like old SMT 1 and 2 gameplay. People who play SH should be aware that it's from a different era. I still find it enjoyable, even with how different it is. Mainly because of Zeed.
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>>122086703
Even then, I enjoyed ST I and II more than SH, gameplay wise.
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>>122086753
I find that doubtful, or you've never played SMT 1 and 2 before, because you wouldn't have issue with
>>MC doesn't learn sklls that means no custom builds
> >demons don't level
and maybe this, but I might be stretching it
>>Nemissa has 3 pre made builds only and only one viable stat build

Only semi-valid complaints are the other two, and even then just get the demons drunk off their asses in the way you want them to be drunk, so they'll always follow your orders.
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>>122086703
>Mainly because of Zeed.
I really wish he'd make a comeback. I know he'd be kind of pointless now since Magnetite isn't an issue anymore but having a little alien buddy that you could mutate into shit was fun.
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>>122086340
>MC doesn't learn sklls that means no custom builds
>uncontrollable demons

That's what gets me the most because if fucks up my battles and I can't do shit
>demon decides to off itself midbattle
>demon decides to do nothing or not listen to me at all
>my MC attacks barely matter

I could just let it autoplay and hope for the best
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>>122087031
>>122088407
So, you don't get skills with your MC and can't control your demons? How are you supposed to win? It's like playing IV and relying on Walter/Jonathan to do anything.
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Are the JP servers of Imagine still up? Is it still worth playing? How long will the servers still be up?
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>>122088870
What are you trying to say?
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>>122089197
As someone who never played Soul Hackers, I'm asking what's the strategy to winning? Do you just get strong demons and "hope" they do the right thing? That sounds... not as fun.
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>>122088870
you don't control your demons at first, tell them to do what they want and they'll normally spam a skill until they run out of mp. Then just tell them to cast that skill yourself and that'll increase your loyalty meter. When the loyalty reaches max they'll do whatever you tell them to and won't give you lip.
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>>122088870
you can control them, but they may not obey you if the command goes against their nature or they don't like you

It's a nice idea, but poorly implemented
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>>122089325
>>122089346
Ah. That makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification.
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So there's a Direct today. I'm guessing we won't see anything of FINAL in the JP one, but I'm still holding onto a sliver of hope.
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>>122091671
I'd rather not know much about the game before release other than the fact its being localized.
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>>122087031
I said enjoyed. Objectively speaking, SH's combat is barely different from SMT I and II but for some reason I enjoyed far more the latter's.
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>>122092309
I'd personally like more info on mechanics that are being added or reworked.
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Just beat Shiki-Ouji in Record Breaker. It's been a fun game but feels even more unnecessary than the P4 spinoffs.
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>>122056505
>>122057562
Fucking hell, SNES9X ended crashed on me at least four times last night. I can't play a game like this.

Is this typical?
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>>122094601
No. You must be doing something wrong.
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>>122095267
I see. I'll be damned if I know what the fuck it is.
>Downloaded SNES9X 64-bit
>Running Windows 8
>First time I tried to run it got a warning about a missing component
>Just downloaded it from a different source
>Worked after that, but got warning that I would have no sound
>Downloaded and installed DirectX
>Worked like a charm after that, except for the crashing.
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God damnit I really want to trust Mastema and I like his design so much but I know he's gonna fuck me up.
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>>122095791
>2015
>choosing law
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>>122095791
You know you want to, so why not do it, son of man?
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>>122095874
That's the thing. I'm a chaosfag. But I really really really like Mastema.

>>122095959
Don't tempt me!
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>>122096203
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>>122096203
Huh, wrong picture.
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>>122096203
Just follow your heart!
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>>122096464
I'm answering honestly to every question and I haven't strayed from neutral. The only way not to fight Mastema is to go Law right?

Post more Mastema
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>>122096750
Pretty sure you only fight him if you're chaos.
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I miss IMAGINE.
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>>122096203
It is only natural for a son man led astray to eventually find the inner love for our Lord inside of him. Embrace it, and He shall nominate you the leader of heavenly armies.
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>>122096750
No only Chaos.

In neutral he just laments that you failed to realize the salvation God could offer to mankind.

He will just wait for another Schwarzwelt since humanity will eventually fuck it up again

>>122099541
Shit version, great one coming through.
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>>122059364
Buy the game.
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>>122085936
Get good.
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I bet Yamato stutter types.
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>>122077530
>this massive shit taste
I bet you're a lawfag.
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>>122096750
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>>122103970
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>SMT4F means more Mastema
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>>122096750
I've only played IV who is that
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>>122105694
HOY prototype
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>>122102294
I own both the first and second, bought them both before reprints, cry more.
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>>122105694
http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Mastema
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>>122096298
Kill yourself.
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>>122085936
That's pretty hilarious seeing as I've been playing Strange Journey for the past few days and I always thought there was an over abundance of save points. You literally need to get good.
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Anyone noticed that the new Canadian Prime Minister resembles SJ's protag?
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>>122108726
lol
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>>122108726
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Direct is in 1hr 10. I doubt they'll be anything on xFE tho
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>>122109339
xFE can die in development hell. Hopefully something about Final will be shown.
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>>122108726
Not really
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>>122109492
Let's be real here, If there's going to be any smt cover, it will just be xFE. Nintendo's primary audience doesn't give a shit about Final. If it is shown, then boy do they have no much to show at all for this direct.
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>>122109492

or EO5 maybe.
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>>122109680
Watch there be localisation confirmation, a new trailer and NA/EU release dates announced for Final. Just you wait!
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>>122109836
>EU release dates

ahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>122014171
I would say DDS.
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>>122108726
What year is it?
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>>122110431
Is he going to use the same excuse for every subsequent year he's in power?
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>>122111340
He's been in power less than 2 weeks.
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>>122110431
Someone needs to shop protag's face on his and replace the cabinet ministers with various demons.
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>>122111674
Go ahead
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>>122096203
>That's the thing. I'm a chaosfag. But I really really really like Mastema.
Well fuck me, I'm the same. For some reason I really like Mastema, both his personality and design.
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>>122112102
isn't he just dressed like a bandari woman?
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>>122112298
Even more reason to want to fuck his boipucci
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>>122096963
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>>122112298
there's a lot of angels in the whole judeo-christian mythology. Maybe Mastema was made by Muslims, so Kaneko gave him a Islamic feature
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>>122112723
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastema
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>>122112723
>Satan was invented by Islam
You're retarded.
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>>122109680
This is bullshit because we got one or two SMT4 trailers via Direct.
But they're going to show #FE because Atlus is currently heavily promotes this game.
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>>122112985
>Mastema and Satan are the same thing
Both of you are retarded
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>>122112985
>Mastema
>Satan
woah, back up there buddy

>>122112926
I actually went there after I made my post, so yeah I'm stupid
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>>122113161
>the adversary
>not the same thing as the adversary
There is a discussion to be had and you're retarded if you don't understand that.
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>>122113067
Are FE games even worth playing? Do they have some kind of depth like smt?
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>>122113309
FE are interesting games if you're into tactics games that rely heavily in terrain, position and weapon balance. Awakening is kinda shitty in that aspect though.
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>>122113309
Not really.
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Can someone explain managing MAG in Raidou 2?
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Hum, so, during Bootes you're supposed to battle David and unluck a Fiend subapp right? I just went to check and I don't have it. Could I have missed it? Can I still get it?
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>>122113309
>>122113457
what he said, I'd start with Fire Emblem for the GBA unless you have a Gamecube emulator or $150 to drop on path of radiance (god I'm glad I still have my copy)
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>>122111530
But it's 2015.
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>>122113309
They're pretty neat. There's permadeath and a lot of variation in character growth, and multiple playthroughs are encouraged.
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>>122113659
I second this. The GBA games are a good introduction to the games. Try out the SNES ones next.
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>>122113309
They are fun but they have HEAVY RNG BS, an enemy having a 30% hit rate is the equivalent of you having 80%.

Also a single critical can fuck you up since dead characters becomes unusable.

Though all said probably one of the most straighforward SRPGs.

>>122113627
Basicall all demons use your mag to use skills so you must exploit weaknesses and take advantage of strenghts (Like absorb) in order to maintain a healthy ammount of mag to battle with.

>>122113635
You can get all EX missions any time except the alignment specific ones after the alignment lock.
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>>122113659
Not him but, I'm able to get a sealed original japanese version for 115€. Is it a good deal?
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>>122113997
If you can read jap I guess?
Shit is crazy expensive here in the states
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>>122113997
I'm betting you're seeing that on Olx.
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>>122113851
Must've just missed his location then. Thanks
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>>122113851
>They are fun but they have HEAVY RNG BS, an enemy having a 30% hit rate is the equivalent of you having 80%.

Actually it's the other way around, the numbers displayed are curved up/down depending on their magnitude

So like if you have a 85% chance to hit, it's actually closer to 95%, but if you have a 20% chance to hit it's closer to 10%. This generally aids the player.
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>>122114158
Makes sense.

>>122114186
Are we playing spot the portuguesefag
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>>122102947
T-that's not true.
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>>122113756
im embarrassed i didnt get where that was going desu senpai
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>>122114273
Oh forgot, there are like 4 or so NG+ Ex Missions and also if you want to unlock all demons your best option is going Chaos Path.

>>122114330
I dunno i just remember many times enemies with a hit rate of like 30 hit more oftem than mine 70-80 hit rate characters.
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>>122114428
It was fairly obvious though
It's a good price by the way, that game is expensive as fuck.
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>>122108726
>"Because it's 20XX."
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>>122113851
But when I have no mag and demons can't use skills how the fuck do I get mag?
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>>122115104
It fills slowly and you get little by defeated enemies, there is always that blue fairy that can fill your mag for a price in dungeons.

Again if you have a demon that can absorb an enemy attack send it to the enemies and every time he absorbs a hit you get a decent ammount of mag.
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>>122113635
Have the better version.
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>>122115614
#notallspacemarines
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>>122114552
Alright, thanks for the heads-up!

>>122114556
Am I gonna have to compete with you for SMT games on OLX or do you have what you need already?
Thank you!
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>>122116887
I'm gonna bet that you were the fag that bought that japanese SMT II from one guy on OLX, correct?
But nah, I have pretty much everything else otherwise. Although I'm looking for FF IV DS and FFTA2
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>>122115614
Thanks, didn't have this one yet!
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John: I really, really, really want SMTxBible Black.
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1~3 Giten Megami Tensei
3~6 Replay SJ
7~9 Replay SMT IV
0 Castlevania PoR

Good night /smtg/.
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>>122120368
enjoy the HOY
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>>122120368
1-3 Dragon Quest VI
4-6 Dementium 2
7-9 CronoTrigger
0-Hentai VN.
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>>122120697
Chrono Trigger is a pretty good game
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>>122120792
I bet it is.

I played it on a PSP emulator until the race part didnt work for shit, now i plan to play it in DS or finishing DQ VI first.
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dude sparks lmao
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Does does giving Victor stones not do anything if you're fusing a demon with a Minamata?
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>>122122060
Cute socks
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>>122122807
I think it does have effects.
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>>122122994
It didn't display any from what I could tell, gave an Onyx, Garnet and Diamond, every other time it's given a passive skill, but this time didn't even include the animation where he stands in front of the cage.
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>>122059364
Select Direct3D9 (Hardware) as a video renderer. Also, disable mVU and MTVU speedhacks if you experience slowdowns.
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>>122123095
I might be wrong then.
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>>122122994
Nevermind, there are only 4 effects you can get that way and I already had them.

>>122123183
Thank you.
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>>122120368
1-3 keep playing SH
4-6 try valkyria chronicles
7-0 do nothing, sleep
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help
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I was an Idiot and got the time wrong. Direct is in 7 minutes
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>>122123851
High Elec Pleroma is probably core if you're running Ziodyne
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>>122123851
This is garbage.
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>>122124549
You think? I think she could handle herself well

>>122124672
how so?
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>>122117158
Actually no. Seems like there's a third fag. Anyways, good taste! I'm currently looking for Christal Chronicles for ds as well since I enjoyed Bravely Default so much.
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[screams externally]
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>>122126364
Don't worry, they're big softies.
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Two questions /smtg/.
Only Mastema and Azazel are Law exclusive in SMT IV?
Does Magic influence the amount of healing from the Dia spells?
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I have such a great luck with dungeons.

In Lucifer's palace in SMT IV. Roamed around basically randomly and found one of the bosses somewhat fast, but after that ran around just felt lost.

So I decided to take some pen and paper and starter marking which door leads where, so I wouldn't run around in circles forver.
And with this I managed to map out the whole thing, meaning the absolute last door I tried, was the second boss door.
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No smtxfe talk. We go hungry tonight
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>>122120368
>the worst Castlevania

Why would you do that?
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>>122129559
Yes
I think a little
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>>122130003
>wanting #FE talk
piss off to /feg/
Where's my 4Final talk
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>>122130003
Oh no, why wouldn't they remind us of garbage so we shitpost about it? What a let down.
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>>122130236
You wut mate? It's not even the worst DS castlevania, since that honer goes to Dawn of Sorrow. Sure, PoR's level design is kinda meh but DoS is overall bad with the exception of the music.

>>122130252
Thanks man.
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They fixed the overworld map.
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>>122131337
Source?
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Can't you do anything right, /smtg/?
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Where's the SMT X Fire emblem game

I havent heard about it in a while, was it dropped?
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>>122131523
DELETE THIS
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>>122131337
>>122131523
what.
is this from the japan direct???

gibe source pls
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>>122131895
Is that a figma or something? It looks really good
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>>122131523
>>122131586
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>>122131895
thought that was the turn x gundam for a second
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>>122132003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILOvAkmILV0&feature=youtu.be&t=1626
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>>122131895
Is this nigga masakado? Kinda look like him.
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>>122120697
>>122120368
>>122123608
Rolling.

>>122123851
Saved, thanks.

>>122132106
It's him allright.

>>122132139
That's a nice room she's got. :^)

POST MORE SHIT FROM THE DIRECT
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>>122132096
I should've watched this one instead, the US direct was awful. thanks.
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>>122131337
>can clearly see where the fuck you are going now

They just need to put labels on the bottom screen map and we're good.
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>>122132139
>Car on the bunkbed.
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>>122132106
It is. In the footage there's a cutscene where he intercepts a nuke.
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>>122132351
Asian drivers man
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>>122132351
sleep tight chris
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>>122132446
Weird looking nukes.
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>>122132569
The power of the 3DS.
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>>122132569
haha it's just a prank nuke bro haha
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>>122132569
It's angel made, doesn't need to look normal.
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>>122131523
>the scream in the trailer wasn't isabeau, just asahi

FLYNN IS SAFE CONFIRMED
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>>122132864
>the scream in the trailer wasn't isabeau, just asahi
What retard even thought it was?
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>>122132864
Nigga, Flynn will be an optional boss there to rape your boypussy, calm down.
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>>122132864
Are you seriously this retarded?
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Hatchi matchi.
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>>122134225
So is that the protagonist's room? Looks dangerous. There's a loaded crossbow on the couch for crying out loud.
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>>122132139
I want to lick inside of her ear
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>>122133902
removed in NA/EU verisons
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>>122134392
what's that face trying to convey?

Can't tell if it's pity or amusement
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>>122134392
Starbucks is pretty neutral these days, so it's only appropriate.
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>>122133902
So the affinity is just the cost less mana upgrade?
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>>122132983
>>122133150
>>122133897
o-okay guys i get it, please stop calling me retarded.

I'm gonna be the one fucking his boipussy tho
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>>122135054
>neutral
>wanting to kill every christian and use their blood to dye their unholy cups that they use to serve coffee to atheists.
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>>122134926
Of course.
Fucking prudes.

>>122135191
yes
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>>122135320
Shouldn't you be murdering philosophers or something?
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They said "nanashi" again in the direct. Will it really be his official name?
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>>122135508
Yes it seems, at least will be silent.
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>>122134392
>>122135054
>>122135320
The choice drink of summoners everywhere.
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>>122118190
Might be working actually with all those genital- shaped demons in SMT.
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>>122136130
>mfw only people dumb enough to drink starbucks are dumb enough to download the demon summoning program
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>>122131523
>>122131586
Fuck you

Fuck everything
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>>122137808
She's not getting killed, Nanashi is.
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>>122137808
What the fuck are you talking about?
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>>122138017
Fuck you too
Wasn't he already dead in the teaser though, guess that's better

>>122138129
I'm tired
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>>122138206
>Wasn't he already dead in the teaser though
How are you so retarded you think trailers have to move forward in time?
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>>122138129
Waifunigger acting retarded over a female character he doesn't even know yet
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>>122138337
Hey chill out buddy
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>>122132096
Was it just me, or do the sprites look a bit bigger?
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>>122138337
How retarded are you if you think that I think that?

I'm just glad it wasn't an actual spoiler.

>>122138429
I don't even care about the female, I just dislike spoilers before getting a chance to play a game.
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>>122138437
>Fuck you
>Fuck everything
>Fuck you
>get called out
>chill out
Epic.

>>122138542
>I'm just glad it wasn't an actual spoiler.
The game isn't out anywhere for 3 months, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>122138542
>female
Are you a robot?
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>>122138542
Its not an spoiler if its on the description of the game.

Were you under a rock?
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>>122138628
You're being really argumentative and need to stop
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>>122138772
>person comes in and attacks others
>gets asked what he is even talking about
>GUYS STOP ARGUING WITH ME, FUCK YOU YOU FUCKS YOU FUCK
Awesome.
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FUCK YOU
AND FUCK YOU
FUCK YOU THREE
OH, AND FUCK YOU TOO
FUCK ME
FUCK ALL OF YOU
IKU YO
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>>122138628
He's not me, either way I guess I replied without thinking much
>>122138771
Yes, haven't been around to check the news
>>122138716
I don't even know what you're trying to say
>>122138862
He's not even me, but really m8 I don't understand why you take it so hard, I wasn't trying to attack anybody. I'm being misread here is fuck you really that much of a trigger
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>>122138771
He thought Asahi was the one being killed, which would be a spoiler. He's still a dumbass for not realizing Nanashi was the one dying, but still.
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SMT IV Lucifer hates me. Which is understandable.

But SMT IV rng also hates me, which I don't get.
Lucifer seems to crit 90% of the attacks he does. He doesn't even need any extra press turns to kill half of my demons in one turn.
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>>122139081
>is fuck you really that much of a trigger
Are you even actually reading any of the posts in this thread? That's not even remotely what was being said.
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>>122139195
I am, I don't understand why that anon >>122138862 thinks I was trying to attack people by responding with fuck you at an image I was unfamiliar with. And I agree with >>122139139 for saying I'm a dumbass because I replied without thinking and already said so in my previous post

Good night my brain doesn't function at this hour or at all
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>>122139603
Don't worry about it, you're doing fine. There's just a really volatile anon here that gets on everyone's case for no reason.
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>>122139830
You mean>>122138437 >>122138772? Yeah, he really needs to learn some social skills.
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>>122140017
Like clockwork.
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>>122140105
Look, we all know you have issues and you feel the need to take it out on everyone for no reason, you're just making yourself look worse here, you really do need to learn those skills, it must be hard to be you, anon.
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Playing IV right now and I want to have something more to play after
Will this suffice?
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>>122140346
Go for it. That's easily 150+ hours of SMT gameplay right there
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>>122140346
Depends on what you want, those are all great games, but buying a flash cart gets you Strange Journey, SMT, SMT II, and both Devil Survivors on your 3DS. [spoile]Not to mention demi-kids.
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>>122140562
>stealing games
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>>122139081
>I don't even know what you're trying to say
Using "female" in casual conversation makes you sound like a space alium who's coldly analyzing humanity. I cringe every time I hear someone do it.
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>>122140601
>Caring about pirates doing their thing
Fuck off, Lawfag.
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>>122140601
Yes, because you can totally buy SMT and SMT II in English for any system other than the iOS version of 1. You are totally stealing something, it's amazing.
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>>122140950
>it's okay to rob banks because I wouldn't be able to normally make that money
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>>122141538
>when a real point is brought up you feel the need to respond with a retarded false equivalency
I guess >>122140831 was right.
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>>122140346
Strange Journey isn't worth buying, so just emulate it.
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>>122142795
I beg to differ, but hey that's what opinions are for.
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>Cloud got into Smash
>More Smash news in December
I can hope for Jack Frost and not be totally crazy now, right?
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>>122143267
Unless he wins the ballot you're pretty much out of luck.
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>>122143267
>I can't not bring up Smash and pretend it's relevant pls pay attention to muh gaem
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>>122143267

I think Atlus is still too niche to pull that off.
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>>122142975
I thought that said Yiff pls when I was scrolling
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>>122143498
>Atlus
>Niche
I didn't realize Japan was part of Europe.
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>>122143653
hah
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>>122140346
>SJ
>$26
what the fuck
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>>122131895
>Masakado is now reminiscent of the Skull Knight from Berserk
So far so good on these re-designs, goddamn
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>>122143267
Persona 4 MC has a better chance than Jack Frost.
>PersonaQ on 3DS, popular character
Same logic as Cloud "No Appearances on a Nintendo Console" Strife.
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Did you know that the Laplace mail in Devil Survivor Overclocked is named after a french Mathematician who published an article about determinism(the belief that outcomes could be pre determined)?
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>>122145396
I bet they're Canadian.
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>>122146723
s-sugoi, anon-kun! Sasuga!
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>>122134926
>>122135398

I don't think that's possible, considering she's supposed to play a role in the game.

Probably edited to wear a bikini top.
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Meguro was having a little too much fun with the voice generator for Nocturne
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>>122147152

FEAR
FEAR GOD AND GIVE GLORY TO HIM
FOR THE HOUR OF HIS JUDGEMENT HAS COME
TO YOU
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>>122146963
Easy, all they have to do is add more vines/ivy or whatever.
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>>122140601
>not taking what you want
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>>122146521
They're doing some "all stars of gaming" bullshit. Ryu got in and his series hasn't been on a nintendo console for like 20 years
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>>122147962
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>>122146963
Why are you guys saying she's going to be censored? It's not like she has nipples.
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>>122148447
ugh I knew I was forgetting some weird release
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>>122148453
No kidding. Tiamat, Diana and Satan aren't censored, and they literally have breasts showing. Mermaid is just really suggestive. No way she's getting censored.

Let's not forget the demons that are penis shaped either.
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>>122149257
>Tiamat, Diana and Satan aren't censored, and they literally have breasts showing.
Satan has been censored in multiple American releases.

Diana is censored in SMT IV if nowhere else.
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So finally beat SJ Neutral path and I need a figure of the Red Sprite. ARTHUR WHY
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>>122149445
I don't remember Satan being censored, do you have any examples?
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>>122149445
has Diana even BEEN in any smt games that made it westward other than IV?
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>>122149445
>>122149578

If I remember it right, Diana's armor is already tweaked since SJ.
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>>122149445
>Diana is censored in SMT IV
She's got nipples though.
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>>122149572
>>122149445
Satan only got censored in either P3 or P4, and who cares about those games?
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>>122149729
and in DDS2 which no one should care about either.
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>>122149729
I think he still had tits in P4
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>>122149821
>>122149729
I think Satan was uncensored in DeSu2 which I find pretty funny.
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>>122149821
(you)
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>>122149821
Not really, he didn't have nipples in the Jap version either.
DDS duology a best faggot

>>122149863
Then it was P3 where he had no nips.
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>>122149572
I distinctly remember P3. He hasn't really been in a lot of games since localization became a thing.

>>122149578
Soul Hackers.

>>122149703
Not in North America, can't speak for elsewhere.

>>122149729
>>122149821
That doesn't mean they don't exist.

>>122149917
I think you're right.
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>>122150140
>Not in North America, can't speak for elsewhere.
That's not what I mean anon. I mean she was censored because she's got nipples. Mermaid has convenient scales. There's no reason I can think of to censor her aside from maybe trying to pretend her body is loli rather than petite, and that's a huge stretch.
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>>122150140
I remember in P3 his model had no nipples but his ingame art did, I think.
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Gotta love my luck.
Finally get a pain in the ass demon to join me, don't save and die in the next random battle.
Fuck this gay earth.
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Which Megaten series has the most doujins? Besides Persona 4.
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>>122151141
Nocturne.
Yaoi doujins.
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>>122150340
Ah, my first post in this chain was >>122149445, so I barely registered the Mermaid thing.

I doubt the Mermaid will be changed, I'm just pointing out Satan and Diana have been censored.

>>122150415
I don't think that's the case, but I haven't played P3 in the past couple years.
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>>122151141
In what sense? As in what's produced or what's actually scanned?
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>>122151313
Both
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>>122151223
I don't doubt this.
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>>122151507
Produced: Nocturne, Raidou, possibly DDS at one point, DeSu2. All gay.

Scanned: Maybe DeSu 1 & 2. Like the only non-gay doujins ever existing are all scanned.
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How do you check your alingment in IV? I just spared Dullahan
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>>122151819
Look at your icon, like every other fucking game.
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>>122151901
first time playing, sorry
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>>122151819
the club
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>>122151819
There's this guy at the bar called "Cynical Hunter" which will vaguely tell you what alignment you are. He's only available after a key point in the game and I think you're either not far from it or already got through it.
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>>122151718
>Like the only non-gay doujins ever existing are all scanned.
Unfortunately they all look like shit
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>>122151901
That's wrong though. In IV it switches back and forth no matter what.

>>122151819
Gotta talk to the cynical man in certain Hunter Associations.
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>>122152164
>That's wrong though. In IV it switches back and forth no matter what.

I think it switches back and forth all the time before alignment lock but will have different spins depending on alignment post-lock. Which makes it totally useless for gauging alignment but adds a nice cosmetic touch I guess.
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>>122151718
DeSu1 and 2 are just the same two or three poorly drawn doujins of Yuzu and Io reuploaded constantly in a bunch of different languages, and random Yamato.
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Hey look who it is
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>>122152810
why does he look so mean
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>>122152810
So who is the faggot in the weird mask, then?
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YO
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>>122152869
He's probably going to try to kill us.
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SOY
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And so ends the first playthrogh of SMT 4 for me.
And Strange Journey is still the only SMT game with law/chaos endings, where I didn't get Law on my first go around.

I really must like the last of yellow bald penis in my mouth.
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>>122152810
Why is his sword broken?
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>>122152810
What the fuck where is this from?
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>>122153176
YHVH used it as a toothpick. It snapped.
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>>122152810
>>122152929

>Final will have a secret boss fight with Flynn
>killing off his support demons will just make him summon more

Make it happen.
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>>122153312
>reusing the Demifiend concept
I would fucking love this. Just not with Flynn.
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>>122153231
the website
http://megaten4f.jp/topics/302/
>>122153312
I feel like he's gonna be a part of the main storyline and not a sekrit. maybe as NG+ boss
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is that a fucking phone card
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2/3 through the game it will turn out Flynn was just on a vision quest as the demikid
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>>122152810
punished flynn; a fallen sawmurai
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>>122152810
>Flynn isn't the player character anymore
>He'll actually talk.
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>>122153863

To be fair, Raidou did talk after SH.
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>>122153312
The idea of fighting Flynn isn't that farfetched. SMT 1 protag was a boss in SMT 2
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>>122153863
Flynn already talked in the trailer at this part https://youtu.be/39SuZbvv9vY?t=18
I think the translation was:
"There are things I want to protect, even if it costs me my life."
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>>122154054
>SMT 1 protag was a boss in SMT 2

what no he wasn't
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>>122153863
I'd prefer it if he was handled like Red is in Pokemon.
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>>122154054
>SMT 1 protag was a boss in SMT 2
Nope, stop lying.
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>>122154054
I think you are confusing SMT if for SMT 2. Because he is a boss in IF
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>>122154087
Flynn gives me a boner
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Anybody got a Flynn wallpaper in this style or something similar? Or any wallpapers in general are appreciated I guess.
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>>122154087
I know like 5 people are going to call me retarded, but it didn't occur to me that it was Flynn saying that.
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>>122154463
Dogs a shit
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>>122154753
Pascal is 2D anon. You can't fault loyal 2D companions.
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>>122154604
Well I just recognized his voice actor. Not sure about anyone else. I wouldn't blame you
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>>122154604
>I know like 5 people are going to call me retarded, but it didn't occur to me that it was Flynn saying that.
Why would you say that?
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>>122154087
Are you sure it's Flynn though?

It sounds very similar to the last line saying "Shin megami tensei iv Final" which is voiced by Nanashi/the protag (same audio clip here at the bottom of an interview with protag's VA: http://megaten4f.jp/topics/197/)

Not an expert on jap voices tho, so I'm just making some assumptions. I hope new protag gets some more voiced lines other than battle grunts and the like.
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>>122154087
>>122155409
>>122154604
I wouldn't be surprised if Nanashi was saying that, maybe he died protecting his childhood friend.
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Playing DDS for the first time. Its also my first SMT. About 20 hours in. Got to this bullshit boss:

>Psycho Rage
>Stone Gaze
>Attack

and repeat for my whole party. I feel violated. I know I probably need some Stone Null/Resist/Whatever-The-Fuck bs but this is dumb.
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>>122155409
It does sound a bit similar but personally I am sure it's Flynn's. Flynn's VA is Yuki Kaji who has a rather distinct voice
Example comparison:
Yuki Kaji:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMAdGcd2npE
And Nanashi's VA:
https://youtu.be/Jz5Sz3RDPqA?t=3
They sound different enough to me. Probably not the best examples but whatever
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>>122156409
Just stay determined. Psycho Rage is one of those skills that some bosses have a chance of doing a lot, other times rarely.
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>>122156409
Cockatrice right? Use Bufu skills
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>>122152810
Let me guess, its gonna be an edgier version of Flynn that gets into fights with the main character over misunderstandings
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>Flynn
>anything other than a bipolar extremist
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>>122156903
But then in the last third he becomes an ally
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Are they going to censor Merky's diddies despite her nipples being the defining aspect of her design?
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>>122158316
She's wearing pasties, it's fine.
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>>122134926
Kiria in #FE now has pants in the Japanese version.

So don't worry.
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>>122158390
What a slut.
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>>122148447
Don't forget he was a playable character in Project x Zone 1 and 2.

>>122147962
But he HAS been on a Nintendo Console. Just like Metal Gear for Brawl. So there's still a difference between that and fucking Cloud.

>>122149445
Diana is censored in all versions of SMTIV. Same for Lilith and Merkabah. Yes those two have nipples in their official art.
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>>122158863
Are pasties lewder than bare nipples?
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>>122159043
>Diana is censored in all versions of SMTIV. Same for Lilith and Merkabah. Yes those two have nipples in their official art.
What is your point? Being censored is still being censored.
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>>122155409
No that's Yuuki Kaiji the same guy who voiced Flynn in IV.
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>>122159157
I'm saying that it won't be censored if the Japanese version isn't censored.

For example Satan and his nipples in DeSu 2.
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Not killing the demon in the government building is chaos? I really don't see how that could be considered chaos.
Also what could I do to go law?
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>>122152869
wouldn't you be
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>>122156409

Update: I did it. Used Bufudyne combined with Ice Amp and Ice Boost (those stack I'm guessing). Had Heat use Agila with Fire Boost in addition to a Taunt here and there and item usage. Argilla used Void Earth through the whole fight.

Didn't have to grind for extra skills or anything. Pretty cool. But it was really just luck for Stone Gaze not hitting and freezing him at least once.
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>>122159314
Not killing demons is chaos.
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>>122159487
Why? I'm fairly new to the smt series and I don't really get the alignment system
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>>122159548
Basically she's following her instincts. Killing her is putting a stop to the natural order of things, hence it's Lawful.
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>>122159465
>dyne skills
>still using Heat
...how far are you into the game? And yes, Amp and Boost skills stack.
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>>122159314
>>122159548
You had two choices, either blindly follow orders given to you regardless of the situation, or think about the scenario and deciding to do what you felt was right

Law doesn't care what's happening or what you were told to do, it's just doing what you're told, chaos requires otherwise.
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>>122159742

16 hours in not counting retries. Likely closer to 20. Past the sewers and at the military base. I'm sure there's another boss on the other side of the building and then the military Varin guy awaits me.

And yeah Heat and Argilla are staying in my party, at least for DDS1.
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>>122160002
Yeah Varin's coming up. Take wind resists.
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>>122160002
I understand Argilla, but why Heat?
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>>122160084

I like that the intro-level elemental skills can be levelled up in a single random encounter. So if I need "Void X" its barely any trouble.
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>>122160145

Because he's part of the original trio. And he is the fire guy foil to the ice guy you play as.

Every stanza sort of rhymes.
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>Scathach will never grant you the friendship of her thighs
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>>122160310
>you'll never rub your dick all over her sexy feet
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>smt is dead


fuck...
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>>122160531
>>122160665
Fuck off, retard.
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>>122161224
he's been here for at least a year now, off and on
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Saving this thread with gameplay footage. Also missiles about to hit Tokyo in a cutscene. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1nLcqaec4I
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>>122163272
>Also missiles about to hit Tokyo
I thought that was RL news for a second
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>>122163272
>Saving this thread with what's already been discussed in the thread
?
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>>122163707
I don't think the gameplay was posted.
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>>122164220
Except it was posted, and things from it were discussed, you purposely ignoring posts doesn't make them not exist.
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>>122164310
Chillax. I hadn't seen it before.
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>>122164424
I didn't realize scrolling up was impossible.
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>>122163453
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How does Metatron wish people a merry christmas?
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>>122163453
Completely new to the franchise, I see.
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>>122165884
No.
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Just killed Chernobog. Impel stone saved my life. Is there another boss after him, or am I through the Airport?
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>>122166145
You just made a statement akin to thinking demons specifically meant evil beings, you're new.
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>>122166229
I think there's one more fight. You're almost at the end.
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only newfags get uppity about newfags
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>>122166298
So you're new? You're the only one here getting uppity and now passive aggressive.
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>>122165871
I don't know, without any mercy? Help me out here.
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>>122166229
>needing to use the Impel Stone on anything other than the bonus boss
o i am laffin
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>>122166264
Or present tense with little context throws people off.
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>>122166229
Pretty sure he's the last one
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>>122166375
>you're
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>>122166589
I don't know if this is epic meme time or you're just legitimately retarded. Actually, the second one encompasses the first anyway.
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>>122166589
Probably best not to reply
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>>122166375
The irony.
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>>122166408
Messed up and attacked Chernobog while he was in sword form, lost turns and the shadows killed 2 of the party members with the other barely holding on. I had skills they were weak to attached specifically for this fight.

Extra boss is Satan, right?
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>>122166589
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>>122166736
The irony of you using words you don't understand?
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>>122166674
there's more than you and one other guy in this thread.
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>>122166845
I never said or implied otherwise, what is your point?
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Look at this guy having a meltdown because someone called him a faggot for caring about potential newfags.
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>>122166927
>I never said or implied otherwise
you implied that wasn't my first comment with "now"
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Anyone want to actually talk about SMT?

>>122167062
Look at this guy throwing a temper tantrum because he can't read but feels the need to be as passive aggressive as possible so he can shit up the thread more. The irony sure is delicious.

>>122167203
Which is why you randomly greentext "you're" as well as outing yourself for being upset someone said someone else was new, not insulting them in any capacity or implying new was bad?

Doesn't make much sense.
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>>122167393
look at you.
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>>122167393
>start shit
>get called out
>let's talk about SMT for once guys

Okay sure
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>>122167450
>look at you.
So you really are going to just continue shitposting, here's your last reply, enjoy it.

>>122167501
>start shit
Nope, that would be >>122166298

>get called out
No, I called the shitposters out, you're quite confused I see.

>you're not allowed to talk about SMT
Epic.
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Kozy is top tier
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>>122166770
That's reasonable then, especially so you won't lose.
Yeah, extra boss is Satan. He's more of a puzzle than a challenge.
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>>122168351
Speak for yourself. They've posted here for ages and everyone learned just not to respond.
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>>122168193
>>122168446
pepe should be a demon in SMTV

rumor pepe
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>>122168428
>Speak for yourself
That phrase doesn't mean what you think it means.
>They've posted here for ages and everyone learned just not to respond
Which makes sense as English clearly isn't your first language.
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>>122168669
please don't deface pepe like that
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>>122168535
You're the same fag who started crying over getting called uppity, aren't you? I'm not surprised.

It's great that you're not familiar with the frogposter who's been around all year.
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>>122168814
You probably shouldn't reply. I don't know what his deal is but he's not going to stop
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>>122168814
>You're the same fag who started crying over getting called uppity, aren't you?
I'm not, actually, just someone who actually knows what words mean, you should stop shifting your problems on to everyone else. This thread isn't just you and one other person.

>>122168875
>oh god, someone who doesn't type things at random, he must be stopped!
Nice.
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>>122168950
You remind me of that fag who kept posting cropped doujin porn after it kept getting deleted.
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>>122169047
And you remind me of shitposters on /v/, doesn't mean you are on, but you're certainly just a shitposter here.
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>>122169047
Ha, I remember that. He kept denying he was getting banned until the mods put the ban notice on his posts. Rofl.
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>>122168934
>スレ殺し ぺぺ
Now this is what I call edgy.

>>122169047
>>122169093
Hey, that's me! Mom, I'm famous!
>He kept denying he was getting banned until the mods put the ban notice on his posts
Yeah, sorry for that. My IP changed without me noticing. Thought I cleared that up right away.
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>>122165871
>New Testament in SMT
As far as I know YHVH has no son (he's still old testament ultramad god), so in SMT Land there's probably no Christmas. This is supported by the distinct lack of Hero/Famed St Kringle.
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>>122169178
Jesus is in Persona 3 as Messiah
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>>122169342
No, he is not.

This looks nothing like Jesus, are you stupid enough to think Jesus is the only Messiah in the history of myths?
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>>122169342

I think that was less Jesus and more the concept of messiahs in general.
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>>122169497
How many demons in SMT actually look like the creature they're based upon though?
Does the actual Satan really look like he does in SMT? Is the actual YHVH really a big yellow head? Actually, that one's kinda 50/50.
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>>122170158
>How many demons in SMT actually look like the creature they're based upon though?
Probably a healthy 70%, maybe 65%
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>>122170158
>>122169342
"Appears before Judgment Day to save the virtuous. He is a universal figure, appearing in myth around the world. Many stories involve his death and rebirth."
—Compendium Info
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>>122170158
>the actual Satan
Pretty sure nobody has seen that guy yet. So we just don't know.
If you mean close to their depiction in mythology/art then yes, most of Kanekos demons are close.
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>>122170319
>He is a universal figure, appearing in myth around the world.
>Many stories involve his death and rebirth."
It must be jeebus!
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>>122170449
I'm not the fag saying that the Messiah Persona is Jesus, just pointing out that it's an interpretation of a universal figure.
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>>122170557
And I wasn't saying you were, I was quoting the relevant part of the information you were kind enough to provide, calm down.
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>>122169672
Yeah, Messiah conceptualizes the ideals behind a messiah. Just so happens that Jesus fits almost all of the ideals.
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>>122171308
>a messiah happens to be messianic
Uh, okay? That doesn't stop other messiahs from being messianic.
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I don't like the way the protagonist moves in Final. He looks too spindly
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Wake up.
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It'd be pretty cool if Flynn's responses/alignment drew on save data in FINAL, and then if you choose not to carry any data over he defaults to white. Shame that's probably not going to happen.
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Good night /smtg/.
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>>122181270
Your IV save is on the cartridge, dumbass. They're not going to give digital buyers a feature only they get.

It also makes no sense anyway since you can have multiple alignments on one save file.

Actually, what the hell are you even talking about?
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Good morning /smtg/
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So why is Masakado so important?

I mean in Japanese culture.
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I've been binging the entire franchise recently, replaying all the mainlines (sans IV) and playing a lot of the spin offs for the first time.

Literally every time Masakado turns up I immediately wonder why he wasn't in IV, because he has such a cool design and is an important figure.

I also on occasion have the same problem with Lilith. Those new designs sure are memorable.
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>>122185538
You didn't got neutral, right?
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>>122185624
Read the last sentence.
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>>122165871
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>>122185910
I don't get this.
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>>122185910
Where's Uriel in this picture?
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>>122186550
>>122186691
"The request was “Any of our Lord’s four most precious servants being sanctimonious harbingers of law and good will” (all caps for effect), and that’s how the first picture somehow came into being.

But then I remembered Christmas and its pagan roots, and reached the conclusion that perhaps our precious servants of the LORD wouldn’t be too willing to celebrate it like that…"

From source.
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>>122186784
Cool. Still doesnt explain why Uriel is missing.
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>>122186926
Because it was the request was any of the four and the artist decided that he didn't want to include Uriel? I don't know man.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuzvQW_gxkk&list=PL5C0B03AA8CB72C7A
HOheHEHohOHOHIHOHEHAH
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>>122186961
Uriel is no longer an official Archangel due to some sort of Catholic dogma revision thing. Happened last year, I think.
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>>122187905
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>>122188831
I find myself whistling the rythm constantly.
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When did he turn into a bad guy?
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Because of this SMTIV Final I'm thinking of buying 3DS again.
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>>122190154
When did he turn into a good guy?
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>>122190451
When he saved Tokyo.
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>>122152921
His name is Quadruple Vaginas.
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>>122189482
Somewhat relevant. I've been replaying SJ but with the OST on mute and blasting Carpenter Brut instead. His music works so well with the game.
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>>122190502
>saved
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>>122188114
Fallen Uriel when?
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>>122187905
Am I the only one that hears the Barbarous Names in the lyrics?

>ELELOHIMEL O HIM

Elelohimelohoelohimsebaoth-amen is one the password passages you get for one of the EX missions after all.
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>>122170158
YHVH is a giant head because in the old testament he's never depicted, but the phrase face of god / countenance is often used to signify his presence or attention, often with descriptions that sound almost literal. It may also be a play on words of the word godhead.
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>>122194642
Forgot to mention that they're also in the SMT1 intro.
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>>122194642
>>122194745
Well, when you put it that way yeah, I can sort of hear ELELOHIMEL O HIM
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>>122185352
He lead a civil war thousands of years ago. He was so ferocious and tenacious that even after he was killed people feared his remains. This made him a sort of folk deity to some.
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>wait years for a Soul Hackers translation
>3DS version comes out
>everyone drops it
>literally the only game I want on the bloody thing
>have to wait now years for an emulator or shill out the equivalent of 350 dollars, because Ninty is super overpriced here
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>>122196521
>stealing games
Cry more.
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>>122196521
Soul hackers is ass though.
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>>122196872
>best MT on the 3DS
>ass
Actually, you're right.
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>>122196521
Why wouldn't you want SMTIV and Final? DeSuO and DeSu2 for those who played it on DS isn't worth it but new games should help you have more of a motive to buy a 3ds.
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>>122197386
MUH HARDCORE> MUH ONLY LIKE OLD GAMES> U KIDS WUDNT UNDERSTAND WITH YOUREASY MODES AND WEEBTRASHHSH LOLOLOL
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>>122197386
DeSu not O isn't even worth playing at all.
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>>122197386
I dont like the artstyle, and the story doesnt interest me. Maybe final will be better. Still, I wouldnt pay more than 10 bucks for it, and nintendo games never go that low
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>>122197556
Your memes are out of control anon.

>>122197583
Opinions. I just meant that I understood not caring about it since DeSuO isn't technically a "new game" for those who've played Desu.
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>>122196521
>don't have a 3ds
>2015

What's wrong with you?
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>>122197990
I bought a Vita instead
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>>122198119
My condolences.
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>>122198119
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>>122198170
Dont be, I love the thing
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>>122197556
Did you have a seizure or something?
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>>122198119
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>>122198170
I don't understand this meme.
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>>122196521
I just bought soul hackers, it'll be must second smt game, what's wrong with it?
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>>122190154
That's the face of a guy who's killed his friends.
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>>122198918
The vita has terrible first party support and an inordinate number of weebtrash games on it. That's pretty much it.
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>>122199262
3DS first party support is almost entirely mediocre, it barely has anything worth playing, I still enjoy both systems, guess I should just say "my condolences" every time someone mentions they own any console a bad game was released on.
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>>122199551
You do you, man
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>>122196521
Why would you want to play SH so much though? While it isn't shitty, it's nothing special. Admittedly, the music is pretty nice.
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>>122199262
>and an inordinate number of weebtrash games on it
You saying this in the smt general?
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>>122199262
>The vita has terrible first party support
>Implying the 3DS doesn't only gets Nintendo rehashes
As someone who has both a 3DS and a Vita, both handhelds are really good. It's just a matter of liking playing games.
Both are inferior to their predecessors, in terms of game library though.
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>>122196521
Get a cheap second hand 2DS for $100 you fucking tool.
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>>122200572
>everyone lives in America
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>>122200692
You serious? I've seen used 2DS in the 90~100€ range before here in Yurop
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>>122200791
Scratch that, I just saw this morning sealed 3DSs for 160€, a discount by 20% from 200€.
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>>122200572
>playing the 2ds.

How? How do you even hold it? It looks like a clusterfuck.
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>>122200954
>It looks
It IS a clusterfuck. But hey, the guy is desperate to play SH and 2DS are a lot cheaper than a normal 3DS
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>>122200692
Do you hate freedom?
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>>122201128
Also, for anyone interested, the 3ds controllers are pretty cool. They make them go from too small and squareular to just the right size.
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>>122199721
I mean genuine weeb games. Games based on anime, VNs, girl touchers, literal dating sims...

If you're into that then you're into that, but the vita does have an awful lot of them.
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Where is the Juraku Bookstore. I can't git gud
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>>122201258
Most VNs and dating sims aren't "based on anime".
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>>122201985
Not him but he didn't say that. He said it had both games based on anime as well as vn's and dating sims. He's not even trying to pick up a fight he's just explaining himself.
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>>122202510
Who said anything about fighting? Don't project.
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>>122201931
In Ikebukuro.
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>>122202805
>Don't project.
I'm not anon. Am I wrong? If I am do go ahead and show me how, but he never did say that. No need to get defensive, no one is out to get you. People can be wrong sometimes too and that's alright.
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>>122203117
He wasn't trying to pick a fight, but you definitely are with that passive-aggression more suited for >>>/cgl/ or >>>/tumblr/
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>>122202510
i'm sure he could've cleared it up himself.
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>>122203315
Then what was the point of this >>122201985 ?
Also

>If you're not an asshole you're being passive-agressive and should go
Stop projecting ;^)

>>122203554
Fair enough.

inb4 I'm an asshole because I need to have the last word or I'll be proved wrong due to not responding after this. You can't win.
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>>122202841
I can't find it in ikebukuro, I've searched everywhere there. Can you give me a general area in where it is
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Who here thinks we should post some dick in honor of DIC? This is his one year anniversary coming to /smtg/, you know.
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>>122203315
>passive-aggression more suited for >>>/cgl/ or >>>/tumblr/
no kidding, i've been seeing a lot of this around here lately.
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>>122203763
Kill yourself faggot.

>>122203785
Agreed. Regular aggression is the only good kind.
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>>122203692
You forgot to take your Midol this morning.
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>>122204046
Was that a yes?
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>>122203721
The entrance is where the right-hand side blue line starts.
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>>122204058
Thanks! Totally forgot.
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>>122204093
Is your mom a yes?
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>>122196521
Buy a 3DS anon, it revived gaming for me.
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>>122204724
Is a 2ds worth it or should I get a new 3ds
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>>122204906
2DS is clunky as hell, I wouldn't get it. I have a regular 3DS because I like the smaller size. It's motherfucking sexy. (New 3DS only comes in XL if you're in Murica). Also I heard there were some issues with the optical 3D (saw my friend's though, and it looked swank as hell; I just don't like how toy-ish the XL feels).
>>
Rolling

1-2 Raidou 2
3-4 Smite
5 FFXIV
6-7 Fallout 4
8 Black Ops III
9 USFIV
0 watch Lost
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>>122198919
Don't listen to them, I bought it and love it.
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>>122190154
Which demons Flynn will use?

I wish for Koga Saburo tier demons.

Which battle song from the first SMTIV?
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>>122205395
Looks like no MegaTens for me today.
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>>122205395
If you bought Fallout 4 you deserve a kick in the balls
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>>122198919
It's an older jrpg. I don't have a problem with it and plenty of other people don't either, but some people just don't like the old stuff.
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>>122205652
And why is that? It's a fun game, and I liked Fallout 3 and New Vegas. 4 is like a better version of those games.

Are you one of those "i hate bethesda" people?
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How much worse is the sound quality on the 2DS compared to 3DS? is it noticeable if you use headphones?
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>>122205745
I can't even understand your shitty taste anon
Remove yourself from this plane of existance
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>>122205990
>not liking good games
I bet you like shit games like Hotline Miami and Spelunky.
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>>122205839
Why would the sound quality be any worse?
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>>122206217
Stalker is literally a better Fallout 3/4 than Fallout 3 & 4 put together
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Is this a Fallout General or SMT General?
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>>122206550
Fallout General
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>>122206550
Today this is a shit general.
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>>122206550
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>>122206345
hey speaking of stalker, which one is the best one?
I see there's 3 and I'm pretty sure story doesn't matter in the game
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>>122207263
Shadow of Chernobyl and Pripyat have the best mods and such, therefore are the best.
Pripyat is probably the best one to play vanilla, but SoC isn't too bad vanilla, just an example of finest soviet game design.

Somehow the second is technically the buggiest one, even though it tried to add a lot of cool shit like factions.
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>>122206550
Demonica armor in Fallout 4 when?
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>>122201128
>>122200954
I have a 2DS and a New 3DS XL. Compared to the 3DS it's not as comfortable. However, this doesn't mean it's not comfortable. Don't let the 2DS' design fool you.
>>
Are there any MegaTen games in which Hardcore Hacker can be fought?
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>For unknown reasons, the design for Cthulhu in Shin Megami Tensei II incorporates a human penis as a tongue.
Why did the feel the need to note this? Did they think it was too subtle?
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>>122209080
Devil Cortex
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>>122206550
3DS shill general
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>>122209229
3DS doesn't need shills.
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>>122209308
It prints money!
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>>122209496
>take money out of wallet
>turn on 3DS's 3D camera
>take picture
>you now have 3D money!
Check-mate, Vita-fags.
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>>122209650
Fuck, made me laugh.
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>>122209728
Anytime, anon.
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>there are people who don't own both a 3ds and vita
>they have to keep talking about the one they bought is better
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>>122210245
>Anytime
Man I wish I had a personal joke deliverer whenever I needed a laugh.
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>>122210325
People do that over any expensive purchase. See smartphone fanboys and luxury brand wars.
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>>122210325
It's just console war bullshit, so don't be surprised it pops up.
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>>122210325
I don't play games often enough to warrant that. Seems like a waste.
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>>122210325
I bought both. I think the 3DS is better.
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>>122211145
I like the Vita's hardware better, but the 3DS's library more. Though I do have 15+ games for each system
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>>122211873
This. Vita is also so much for comfortable to hold and play on.
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>>122212085
>>122211873
>>122211145
I've been enjoying my Vita far more than my 3DS. I haven't picked up my 3DS for some time till the eShop sale and when I rebought SJ.
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>>122169178
What? The entire plot of SMT2 is about Revelations, to the point where it is specifically referenced by name several times.
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I'm having a problem.

I've been playing SMT on an emulator, today when I go to load my file, which shows the correct character information when I open it, it just opens as a new game. What should I do?
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>>122212185
It's hard to enjoy a console if you don't buy any games for it.
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>>122212517
Too bad most of the 3DS titles fail to interest me.
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>>122212517
>buying tons of poor games is better than buying a few good games
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>>122210325
>That feeling when I don't own any handheld because I'm poor as fuck
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>>122212581
You have to be a hardcore bottom of the barrel weeb to be interested in vita games.

They're so weeb even most weebs will admit they're trash.
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>>122212946
>being this delusional
Okay.
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>>122212946
>I don't know most of the Vita's library and just spout nonsense
I'm sorry anon.
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>>122212946
It does have a lot of trash weeb games like Neptunia and Atelier, but it also has some pretty good games like Soul Sacrifice, Freedom Wars, Demon Gaze, Operation Abyss, Toukiden, Dungeon Travelers 2, and Lost Dimension.

3DS has fun as fuck games, too. Monster Hunter, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, Etrian Odyssey, Smash, all those MegaTens. I'm pretty glad I own both systems.
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>>122213724
>Soul Sacrifice, Freedom Wars, Demon Gaze, Operation Abyss, Dungeon Travelers 2, and Lost Dimension.
Who?
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>>122213724
I don't know about OpAbyss, I had mixed feelings on that release - I'm glad Stranger of Sword City is coming this March though.
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>>122213724
I was under the impression Atelier was a bit good, though.
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>>122213724
>Atelier is weeb trash, but Demon Gaze and Dungeon Travelers aren't.

okay
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>>122214003
Atelier is good, although it'd be considered "weeby" for most people.
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>Fanboys in my /smtg/
I want /v/ to leave.
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>>122213867
Fun games.

>>122213978
I enjoyed it. It wasn't the best dungeon crawler, and I hate appraisal systems fuck class of heroes 1, but I liked the cyberpunky feel. Reminded me a bit of Soul Hackers in a way. Stranger of Sword City has me really excited. The artstyle is a nice change.

>>122214005
I actually liked Demon Gaze and Dungeon Travelers though. I couldn't really get into the Atelier games, is all.
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>came here to discuss Strange Journey
>find people console-fagging
Did I miss the memo? Or can I ask questions regarding SMT?
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>>122214839
Mastema is trustworthy.
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>>122214839
No, this is a shit thread.

He's right tho >>122214931
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What level should you be when you finish Bootes? Also, fuck hidden passages. Almost high enough level to make High Pixie; is it worth it?
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>>122215104
Are you having troubles with random encounters? If so you need to level up a bit. High Pixie is good. I've found most of the Special Fusions to be at least decent. Currently on Delphinus running Frost Ace, Black Frost, Qing Niuguai I can't into spelling and Hero for a sick 3 demon co-op attack.
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Literally the only Vita game I want to play is Dancing All Night.
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>>122206745
But that's true of all generals.
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>>122215292
>Wanting an inferior Project Diva
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>>122215292
No one cares.
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>>122215381
But not all the time. Who am I kidding

>>122215441
You cared enough to reply.
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So I'm playing DeSu2 and got to the alignment split and I'm laughing at these options

We've got Daichi who feels like a neutralfag stereotype of someone who can't make up their mind

We've got Anguished One who's an equally retarded Kaworu

We've got Yamato who is a really gay Donald Trump

And Ronaldo is fucking tumblr
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>>122215502
Did you seriously think that was a witty come back? It doesn't even make sense.
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>>122215548
>We've got Yamato who is a really gay Donald Trump
My fucking sides.
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Atlus USA is streaming on Twitch and the PR manager is answering questions if anyone is interested. Someone ask about SMTif... localization
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>>122215774
Streaming WHAT?
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>>122215854
Stella Glow.
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>>122212406
While true, it definitely had more of an Old Testament feel. Most importantly it was missing Jesus (Agony doesn't count).

The Messians aren't actually Christian interestingly enough because they reject the most important tenant of Christianity: Jesus was the Messiah who died to pay for the sins of humanity and rose from the dead three days later as a symbol of everlasting life. They are more like another offshoot of Judiasm like Christianity and Islam.
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>>122215985
Maybe they should stream SMT1 if they want my attention

Speaking of streams, OVA stream tonight when?
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They're giving away Raiho box on stream.
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>>122215548
Despite how stupid Ronaldo can be, his ending is the best in my opinion.
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>>122216159
The game they're streaming isn't important, it's that he's answering questions about anything.
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>>122216316
>turning everyone into lazy welfare queens is good
Ronaldo's ending and Daichi's water world ending are the worst.
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>>122216324
>implying they'll answer shit about SMT if and not just focus on FINAL
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>>122216503
>and not just focus on FINAL
Except they literally have said nothing about Final, when specifically asked about it they said "No plans currently".

So what the fuck are you on about?
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>>122216503
They didn't even focus on Final. They just said they want to announce a release date soon.
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>>122216467
even the game itself hints that ronaldo's world is doomed for failure.

yamato's will eventually too and fall into complete chaos but his entire route has the benefit of being hilarious so no one cares.
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>>122216316
Go be a communist somewhere else
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>>122216467
But in Ronaldo's ending that sort of thing would only happy if your mentally ill. It's hard to selfishly leech off the system when human nature has been changed so people greatly value the well being of others over themselves.

The game pretty much calls it a paradise on Earth. From an Egalitarian and Utilitarian standpoint it's basically perfect.
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>>122216872
the game also hints that it's doomed to fail eventually and WILL produce people who leech of the system.
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>>122215104
About level 20
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>>122216779
It's ironic that I felt like a bigger scumbag doing Ronaldo's route over Yamato's. Even in the end, Yamato's felt more rewarding even though it's a world for assholes.

I think the big difference is that Ronaldo claimed to be on a higher moral ground when he wasn't and got his world by stealing and other shit. Him celebrating Yamato's death in front of the player rubbed me the wrong way too.
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>>122216779
It hinted at it yes, but it was an open question. I have no idea how that could ever come to past honestly.

If the events of the game happen again, everyone will work together to stop it. People will naturally become stronger through conflict with demons, they don't need to fight among themselves. Plus you don't have to worry about the people who become incredibly powerful do to the fighting turning into a bunch of Social Darwinists who collaborate with the demons or greedy people exploiting the situation to make money.

Either way, it isn't like Neutral isn't doomed to failure either seeing as how nothing was fixed. Ronaldo's ending seems the most likely to survive longest.
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>>122216984
Does it matter if some people leech off the system when almost everyone else is better off and happier than they would be under a different system? That sounds more like the perfect being the enemy of the good.
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>>122217374
>Yamato's felt more rewarding even though it's a world for assholes.

It secures you a lifetime of boypussy
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>>122217374
i'm just more inclined to sympathize with people who work their asses off for their positions than lazy shits that hide behind "equality" so they're handed their way through life
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真4Fと神話世界への旅

塩田信之の真4Fと神話世界への旅
第4回 神秘思想と悪魔サタン

こんにちは、塩田信之です。毎週、『真・女神転生IV FINAL』に関係するふたつのキーワードをとりあげ、そのルーツや現代に及ぼしている要素などを深く掘り下げていくことで、『真・女神転生IV FINAL』の面白さを解読していきます。開発スタッフの談話や制作メモなどから、シナリオや設定にまつわるさまざまなこぼれ話も紹介する予定です。

第4回 神秘思想と悪魔サタン

神秘主義とはなにか

宗教とその周辺に、「神秘主義者」あるいは「神秘思想家」などと呼ばれる人々がいます。色々な人がそんな風に呼ばれているので、どんな人なのかは一概には言えないのですが、とても昔から、言ってしまえば「宗教」というものが生まれた頃からいたものと考えられます。

例えばどんな人がそう呼ばれているのかというと、「聖女」などと呼ばれることもある幾人かの女性たちがまず挙げられます。「神の啓示を受け」た神秘体験を著書やみずから作曲した音楽という形で遺している12世紀ドイツの「ビンゲンのヒルデガルト」や、「神との合一」を謳い上げ修道院改革者としても知られる16世紀スペインの「イエズスのテレジア」(あるいは「アビラのテレサ」)といった人物が有名です。彼女たちはどちらも敬虔なキリスト教徒で、高い知性を持った人物として知られています。彼女たちは「幻視」あるいは自己の内面で神と出会い、啓示を受けたり「合一」を果たしています。彼女たちを「神秘主義者」と呼ぶ場合、「神との神秘的な体験を行った人」という意味合いになります。
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>>122217629
Welfare queen pls go
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Ey, anon here who was having trouble with KMT ROM on Snes9x. Was busy and didn't get a chance to mess with it last night, but I'm planning on playing more tonight and don't wanna waste a bunch of time.

Besides just trying to download the emulator from somewhere else or try a different one, could my crashes be due to the fact I was loading the ROM from an outside folder and not the "ROMs" folder that Snes9x creates?

Also while I'm at it, what's up with the world of the first Megami Tensei? It's supposed to be modern cyberpunk hacker stuff, but you talk to people in "villages" like this horny dude here. What gives?
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>>122218068

And a nip-nong ching chong to you, young lady.
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>>122218068
また、神の神秘性を学術的あるいは論理的に追求しようとする人々がいます。こちらは「神学者」あるいは「哲学者」と呼ばれることも多く、ユダヤ教の神秘思想「カバラ」や、キリスト教以前から存在してはいたもののキリスト教とも結びついて神秘思想を発展させた「グノーシス主義」、イスラム教の神秘思想である「スーフィズム」といった知識体系を作り上げていった「神秘思想家」たちを指します。上に挙げた女性たちも「神秘体験」を元に「神秘思想」を構築していますが、「神秘思想家」と呼ぶ場合は実際に神秘的な体験をしていてもいなくてもいいという点で意味合いは変わってくると思われます。

Screw it, I'm pastebinning the rest of this.
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The big flaw in Ronaldo's route is that people aren't inherently equal by nature.

If you're stuck between choosing a doctor's life over a cripple's, you pick the doctor's as they'll benefit society.
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>>122218068
>>122218207
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>>122218068
>>122218198
>>122218207
>>122218379
So says the mystic script
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>>122216872
>From an Egalitarian and Utilitarian standpoint
So from a drooling retard's standpoint?
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new

>>122218931
>>122218931
>>122218931
>>122218931
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>>122218340
Funnily enough that would be the same choice in Yamato's world, but for different reasons. Besides, better the doctor's life be saved than have both of them die.
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>>122152810
>yfw the SMTIV:Final protagonist was killed by Flynn
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>>122218168
>It's supposed to be modern cyberpunk hacker stuff, but you talk to people in "villages" like this horny dude here. What gives?
MT1 is basically a spin-off of the book. In the game, Lucifer creates a magic dungeon and revives Loki and shit and makes Nakajim and Yumiko delve down into it. It's more like an underworld type place rather than a cyberpunk situation. MT2 is a little bit more Mad Max Cyberpunk.
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Does anyone have the YOU CANNOT ESCAPE YOUR HUNGER Mcdonalds picture? I need it.
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>>122219587
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>>122219765
Thank you so much dood.
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