/domg/ - Dominions General

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I bet you niggas don't even Ban Blood sacrifices

~Lawgiver

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Why is Kailasa so perfect? Celestials are amazing.

>>121865428
because rest of monkies is suffering

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Yo give me the Pangea memes senpai

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goodnight /domg/

Will Lanka be the first one eliminated?

>>121823184

>enchantment 7 is as easy to get as enchantment 5
>ench 7 is something most LA nations prioritize researching
>most LA nations have a n3 mage with each of their 'moderately sized' armies
>Grip of Winter isn't in the exact same path and also available to Pyth

Mkay.

Looks like the other burds are stalling out.
I overcast shame with all my gems.

Ulm, did manage some major punch to their army that I missed?

Really been enjoying Stalewarriors
It's going well apart from the expected level of AI's.

Here's a similar game, about 1/4 the size, on an earth with 29 fixed starts

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=All_Yesterdays

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>>121867639

>>121873591
>really enjoying endless expansion: the game

>>121874838
should be pretty slick with all nations

>undead in my cap ring
OH BUDDY HERE COMES THE BANISH

>>121863957

>Steam profile says I have 80+ hours in this game
>Still feel like a total scrub

How long does it take to feel competent at this game?

>>121880912
When you win in multiplayer.

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>>121880912
>competent
>Dom4

>>121880912
I have just shy of 400 listed, and I only sometimes open it using Steam.

I'm still a scrub.

Can you delete the pretender for C'tis? I made a grave mistake in my understanding of this game.

Blitz blitz blitz blitz get in chat you salty sea dogs.

>>121883182
Are you going to resubmit? I'd like to submit C'tis if you're dropping it.

>>121883910
If he was going to resubmit, it wouldn't be necessary to delete since he could just overwrite.

>>121884065
I thought maybe he didn't know that.

>>121883910
Nope, not planning on resubmitting.

>>121884165
I appreciate the thought, but no I am actually dropping from the signups.

>>121883182
>>121884910
I'm on the case senpai

Now THREE spots left

COME PLAY SCALY TAILS IN THE REKKENING

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck

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>first turn
>Turmoil 3 Luck 3
>get this site inside the cap
>nation of the living non-giants

May as well go AI now. I wanted to ruse someone nearby, harass him and then go AI since I have no midgame plan, but the game itself trolled me.
Amusing game, got me everytime.

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>>121891182

Just have a second fort next to your cap, and *move your shit across*.

Jesus fucking christ does domg like to go AI. 'Oh shit anything bad at all happened, time to go AI!'. If you fucking sign up for a game, commit to killing at least 1 person.

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>Trifurt complains about AI being his neighbours and boredom
>invade the fuck out of him that exact turn

The moral of the story is don't complain about stuff unless you enjoy hot sexy hoburg-on-hoburg combat.

>>121891182
>luck 3
Joke's on you, anon, the event is 'common good'.

I'm a bit confused though. If you're just in the game to fuck one person over, why does this bother you?

>>121892886
>Just have a second fort next to your cap, and *move your shit across*.
The disease isn't the biggest problem with it, it's the 15% popkill on his capital plus a large chance of more popkill later. He's losing about 50 income per turn already, more if it slows down his expansion and he gets fewer provinces.

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>>121894005

If you're relying on your cap for income, your expansion strat is *balls*.

It's less than ideal, it's not game-losingly bad. Even if it is, going AI is just a giant dick move to anyone actually playing the game. Fighting the AI is like slowly choking down liquid shit. And the more you've done it, the worse it gets.

>>121893868
Given I just complained about people going AI which'd messed up all the long standing diplomacy I'd gone for, your invasion more proves a point about how the game has gone.

I hope you like earth elementals

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>>121894316

Defense 27 deer cavalry are probably the least worried about earth elementals. My tiny armoured swordsmen certainly won't like them, though.

I too, can cast Living Earth, though, you know. Are you sure you want to start this hoburg-trampling world, instead of honourable, hoburg-on-hoburg combat? Let our deer warriors clash their antlers, and our footmen ring steel from steel. Let the strongest hoburg win!

>>121894687
Deer on deer is the main course of the day, mine don't have such restrictions as "cap-only". Still, earth elemental is the salting of choice.

>>121894687
I'm not sure I have any footmen, at all.
>>121894849
Lost me name.

>>121894113
>If you're relying on your cap for income, your expansion strat is *balls*.
Some nations can reliably use all their gold to get a better expansion. Yomi, for one example that might like T3L3.

Even for nations which can't use all their gold, it means slower forts.

>It's less than ideal, it's not game-losingly bad.
I agree, I'm just saying it's a bit worse than just losing a turn on your cap-only mages when moving them somewhere safe.

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>>121894849

Sarzzig's Divine Apostles are not cap-only. I just prefer the Unseen Templars and Elite Irregulars because they are cute as hell.

And the divine apostles are so very hungry. Hungry hungry hoburgs.

>>121895254
Aren't they? Well fuck me under a tide of blessed deer, though given their crap attack to defense ratio we may just end up with fields full of them standing arround looking at each other like "s'up?"

Kiirdom guy, i sent you the mictlan turns with a 24h postpone. Have fun dude

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>>121895367

I uh.. I kinda doubt that. Given the turn number.

>>121895664
I guess, though I also have to rename the Hoburg Friendship Mountain Range now you cunt.

>>121895254
>playing Sarzzig
>late game
>not having a million demons of every type instead of mucking about with gimpy hoburg troops

How do I kit out Rama, the Divine King? Brand, Vine Shield, some armor and that's it?

>>121873591
I'm an ausfag with a job. Would I slow the game down too much?

>>121897104
>>121897207
The more players, the more chance it it will need the 24 hours due to schedule conflicts regardless of one person.

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>>121896467

I subbed in like 5 turns ago. I've got some demons. Hanging around.

Divine Apostles, blessed, don't need no man, at all. Lance, antlers, 'exceptional' quarterstaff, good prot, great defense. Overall 5/5, would blindly hurl at people again.

>>121895919

We're still friends. Just now we're special friends.

Don't worry. When you're dead, we'll reanimate your corpses and fill them with blood, and bind your souls to ours. Hoburgs together.

Forever.

Also for the anon last thread:
Behrrytoss
Bureetose

>>121897471
Time for BoT and foul air, the world dies with us.

>>121897489

I like berrytoes. It's very hippy girl laughing with the sun drenching her long blonde hair, right before she explodes in blood and melqarts start climbing out of the shattered space where her ribs and stomach used to be, far too large to fit into the tiny space but through some warping of the world's inherent laws, climbing out, one after the other, and looking around, blinking through the haze of blood and gathering their golden swords and shields.

>>121897653
Uh, Admin? Can I request orbital bombardment due to Sarzig being too damn creepy?

>>121897895
No can do, I'm reassigning my bombardment mages after their terrible performance against your army.

37 kills against 300 hoburgs is NOT okay.

>stale Ulm is AI too
wasn't that guy a sub? i thought he was a person, damn

>>121898317
I can see how this is going, and what did you think would happen using damage spells against high prot high mr troops!

>>121898638
The guy I asked to AI him took a few turns to make sure the AI stood a chance.

>>121898720
so it is 20 players and 6 bots already? sad

>>121898776

Every single 'HUEG MAP GUZY' game turns out like that.

And then the people who can actually take turns and micro for that long win and talk fondly forever about their 'epic victory'.

>>121873591
I'm a newbie, is it ok for me to join?

>>121898641
I figured 15 AP fire damage would hit hard enough to punch through regardless, especially with low HP.

I guess that wasn't true.

>>121898961
A mistake you shall pay deerly for.

>>121899085
I look forward to it.

>>121899085

soon your puns will, like your bones, belong to us.

did you know that sarzzig's capital sites are called the weeping market and the dying statue?

These fucking hoburgs are

messed.

up.

>>121899595
You think that's bad? I have the Vale of Cleansing, WHICH DOES NOTHING AT ALL.

>>121863957
MY MONEY GOT CRAZY
SO I DID GOT LAZY
IT'S COMIN' SO EASY
'COS THE WHOLE WORLD NEED ME

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Do several casts of foul vapors stack?

Does flying protect against earthquake even during a storm?

>That battle in maschoheim

What the honest to fuck were each of you thinking when you built those SCs?

>>121900283
No
Yes

>>121895628
Hey guy that subbed for mictlan, go on the steam thread and write there if you can.

TC you here?

Also Agartha how the heck did you stale, I saw you in the steam chat zzz

>>121898926

Join whatever game you want, man. Just be considerate of other players and take your turn regularly. If you're the last one to take your turn, make sure to take a double turn. Also, if for some reason you want to quit, don't. If you really have to, then set yourself to AI before you go. Other than that, have at it.

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>>121873591
>No Therodos

>>121901629
I could theoretically add in therodos by changing the map file as detailed in the thread

>>121898926
I encourage it. This is a fairly large scale game so you may get to see many of the possible clusterfucks the game has to offer, and how people react. Large amount of players less likely you'll get singled out, but you may experience an early rush (which is nonetheless handy to learn about)

>Hosting EA games because you can't handle dank skeleton memes

>>121903130
Could you also make the place where Agartha starts actually be a mountain? It's kinda weird that it isn't.

>>121903240
Al right, uploaded my pretender, here's hoping everything goes well.

>>121903130
Wait a second, it has a land named Therodos already, just not set as a start.

>>121898926
bear in mind though this will probably take a week or so to fill up, if it does at all
I'd also recommend firing up a singleplayer game with this map and practising expansion with your chosen race and checking out the map. I know it has a large cave system and probably a few odd connections.

>>121903381
maybe, if you tell me how to edit map files plus the code for setting a province to a mountain

>>121903547
is it province 163? Here's the posted solution for adding therodos

'Add in map file

#allowedplayer 95
#specstart 95 163'

>>121904000
To add to this as a person who's looked at the map, the province "Uladh" one to the north of your cap (Presuming you joined as TNN, given no-one else ha sjoined yet) leads to the magic elven realm, which has five provinces with the enterence linked to a province in your capring, a province in formias capring, and part of the underworld.

>>121904000
Will do, I should get an e-mail when the Game starts, right?

>>121904140
That seems the right code for adding Therodos, yes.
The easiest way is pull up map editor, select the province named agartha and check "mountian". The harder way is find which province it is in the code (319) and add 16 to the current terrain value (which is 0, making it 16).
To make it a cave as well, add a further 4096, making it 4112.

>>121904204
yep

Uh, R'lyeh, that's a lot of fish there, we're cool, right bud?

>>121904334
haha, I added that code, and now Therodos is the only playable nation

>>121905456
Oh, right, there wasn't a restricted nations list to start with. Remove the allowed player bit or add another 29 with the code for each nation.

>>121905691
that worked. Adding and removing that code baffingly removed the Age restriction without changing any other code, but let's test it with 30 nations

Sceleria, don't forget to send me the thing I asked you about, please. I almost achieved what we were talking about earlier. In a few turns I will be ready to engage the Swordfish Protocol.

What is the best thing to wish for /domg/?

>>121906271
You better not be talking to me because I've forgotten everything that was happening.

>>121906362
Apocalypse.

>>121906028
well, it all works fine, and with regular restricted age reinstated.
now, Berytos and Therodos kind of share a province in each others capring, but it's a water tile, and berytia connects to 5 other tiles and theredos to 6 or 7

>>121906271
get rekt Vanarus.

>>121906837
Check again. Aradus is a land province in both's cap rings.

>>121907145
that's true. The simplest solution would be to play the map as it was originally intended. Otherwise that's the price of including Therodos.

>>121907439
the other solution would be to remove that connection, which doesn't make as much sense, but is fairly straightforward
mapmaking is kind of fun. Like a puzzle type of fun

>>121907518
The Med is already enough of a mess of province connections as it is, but yeah that part of mapmaking is really fun, shame about the FUCKING DRAWING PART!

>>121907638
presumably all players need to do is download the map image file right? All this new info will be included in the .trn after I upload it to llamaserver?

>>121908260
Yeap, I think, so far haven't seen any problems with doing that.

>>121908430
Well, they need a .map file for province connections, but I don't think it needs to have the right setup stuff in it.

>>121908537
that sounds like it means Berytos and Therodos would just have to learn to get along

>>121908697
Yes..... It's not like there are a couple of sides with touching cap circles in the area (C'tis touches: Hinnon, Breytos and Machaka)

>>121909058
Oh and Machaka and Breytos touch as well, Abysia misses out on touching C'tis and Hinnon by one province (the same province), Arco misses touching Ermor and Breytos by one province (different ones).

Theredos is just next to everyone down there as well.

>>121909225
at least they can run into the water

>>121909307
Which? Therodos? They're fine, it's half the others whom are going to end up with a blessrush where the sun doesn't shine.

>>121909373
welp, the gamepage map info has been updated

might join as Maverni

>>121909532
Spooky, that's what the admin joined as in stalewarriors.

>>121900283
>anime-girl-questionmark
IT'S YOU AGAIN.

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>>121909814

A lot of people like marverni more these days.

*cracks knuckles*

Subbed into a Year 4 position as Arco. Game has been sewn up by one player with good diplo and tactics, and a few idiots he's been manipulating into wars.

Dat feeling when you organize the entire world on someone right before they get their last throne, when YOU are the variable that upsets the chessmaster's flawless victory... so fucking good.

>>121910304
well, I played a highly sophisticated and well thought out Tri-bless in Chalice of Salt, and now I'd like to try something a little different. The only thing I'm apprehensive about is whether or not to take an earth bless for my sacred mages.

>>121910652
FUZZY!

>>121910774
haha, indeed. The man who drank the sea to salt himself, Therodos.

>>121910652

It's doubtful that it's worth it. And if you're playing the nation right, it shouldn't matter much. Anything important that comes out of your druids should be cast out of a communion, because it should be a) battlefield-wide b) important enough to use a druid for.

>>121910652
Take B9. You'll be covering the battlefield in a horde of boars, which are most easily countered by large AoE spells and big things. B9 bless works as a counter to the AoE spells, since you generally don't want to trade your expensive mages for freespawn boars, and it means that the boars can actually trade with big things both due to their increased strength and blood vengeance rather than die for free.

>>121913006

You guys know that tribless boars guide on desura is a joke, right? It's not a serious marverni build.

>>121912548
But what about gifts from heaven spam?

>>121913006
I was considering B9, But I'm not going to go for a nuts tribless this time and was tossing up between earth and nature as a possible second.
You really do end up with a lot of boars, it's blessing them all that's the hard part.

>>121913360
Divine blessing exists for that reason.

>>121913105
B9 by itself is fairly cheap, and makes your boars way better.
>>121913461
Yep, and Marverni can communion up a druid to cast it when needed.

>>121913461
how do you go about casting it, apart from prophets and holy communions? Cause you need like five dudes to communion up to H3

>>121913360
Don't bother with the secondary bless. Your sacred mages won't have fatigue problems, and your communion slaves aren't sacred.

>>121913760
You want a communion for your major armies anyways. Divine Blessing is just one among a number of battlefield buffs that you'll deploy (mass protection, mass regeneration, army of x in the late game, antimagic, etc)

>>121913360
you can setup a small communion to cast divine blessing even with shitty priest mages, even turn 1 with the crystal matrices.

in my opinion boars are so fucking awful that the only possible plan to make them do anything against someone who is serious about dominions is B9.
i would add D4 or N4-9 to make them more resistant to multiple suicide rain of stones ( although you can't do shit against pre-bless RoS).
as far as i've heard N9 helps communion mages a lot, just like E4, but ith the benefits of making communion resistant to battlefield wide evocations.

>>121913121

There's not a good way to get enough of it. Druids cost too much to get the randoms to spam that, and elder druids are STR and cap only. And if you cast it out of a communion, the slaves tend to explode a lot unless you use druids as slaves, and even then you need a lot of them (Gifts is base 50 fatigue).

You can do it, but it's a sometimes food.

Read this thread (http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/ea-marverni-sequani-sequani-revolution). You don't just use Cascades (and sometimes you use mind-burn), but generally using druids to drop battlefield-wide buffs and kills (Grip of Winter, quake, wooden warriors, serpent's blessing + foul vapours, etc) from inside a communion is what's worth your time.

Additionally, Destruction will generally do more work than Gifts. Bigger area, and most giants and things get cut to pieces without armour. The problem is the range, but given the god-awful precision on gifts, even with eagle eyes, it's not that bad. If you ARE going to Gifts away, ALWAYS use eagle eyes first. Without it, you'll mostly shell your own troops.

Having Air on your god so you can use Storm Staves is pretty worthwhile, as well as affording rings of levitate for your EQers. Storm Staves stop flyers dead.

Blood is pretty nice too, as it gets you Reinvigorate for your communions (a game-changer) and blood-sacrifice to domkill enemies, or keep your pimp hand strong (which is great for Vengeful Waters).

There's other stuff. Golems, nature gems for cheap chaff, why you use druids as commmunion slaves for non-S spells (fatigue mechanics), etc.

>>121913742

B9 isn't an issue, but taking a double bless for boars and boar warriors and then running into any of the many giant nations in EA, or anyone who knows how to avoid b9 and still kill pigs...

It's just a gimmick build. It's not really even that fun, lot of micro involved.

By the way, Marverni can blood sacrifice even though it has no native blood mages.

>>121913992
> i've heard N9 helps communion mages a lot
It does, but Sequani aren't sacred.

>>121914043
Yeah, I'm not advocating a double bless.

The game won't start for ages
I might try out a b9 fountain and a b9 n9 Black bull and see how I like them.

>>121913992

A couple of (elder) druids with hats and shirts and boosters and an army of nobles (hats and shirts come free), and buffs, is a good answer to defensive ros that can still win fights with trivial stuff.

Boars can trample human sized stuff. But they are still god awful, and boring.

The most common marverni communion slave (s1 stargazer) is not sacred. And druids can cast Personal Regeneration to give slaves regen. Making n9 one of the least meaningful blesses as far as their mages go. You might try to use it to make the boar warriors and boars a bit more durable, but.. urgh. Waste of design points.

>>121913890

The vast majority of marvernis die before those spells even come online.

>>121914494
>The vast majority of marvernis die before those spells even come online.
That doesn't match my anecdotal experience, but I've only been in 3 games with them.

>>121914731

Admittedly they've been in vogue lately, with better players playing them. But Marverni used to be the redheaded stepchild who would get the shit kicked out of it in every game.

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kek

whats ur fav nation and why

whats ur fav magic spell and why

>>121915519
Berytos, because I love mages
Teleport / Cloud Trapeze because they add an entirely new level of strategy with magic phase movement

>>121915519
Arco. They are hope for humanity, proud, high-cultured, noble.

Tie between Golem Construction and Arcan Nexus. First spell saved me a lot and the second one is the sertain way to seize victory in the most of cases.

>>121914190
>It does, but Sequani aren't sacred.

just noticed.
fuck it.just go full scales, dominion 7, even luck3,still take heat 3/cold 3 and take a god with a single path you don't have and push it to a booster-level. like blood 4-6

>>121916041
you've twisted my arm, quadbless it is

>>121916146
>quadbless boars

j-just go B9N9.

GUYS THE GUY THAT SUBBED HASN'T SHOWN HIMSELF.

We have a free slot for a sub for a MA mictlan with only one stale, decent player probably stabbed by a methhead, PLEASE WAKE ME UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE, i want to play.

BTW I am a friendly Ermor and i am not even near him.

http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya/discussions/0/490123197949980578/

>>121916747
I'm that guy and I'm still waiting for an email with the turn files.

>>121915510
Does it work with both air shield and flying shield?

>>121917063
You just need to use a turn resend function, you silly.

>>121916257
That's way more expensive than just B9 for a boost you honestly don't need.

>>121917446
It was Air Shield. Don't know what it will write about Flying Shield, maybe something along the lines: '...but magical shield protecting Anon has blocked incoming missile and Anon got away without a scratch'.

I really like the Dominions music. It's so comfy.

>>121917063
Odd, I sent a turn resend when I noticed that you mustn't have received one, have you got one now? And do check your spam folder just in case.

>>121917063
ah shit nvm, I was looking in the wrong inbox.
My apologies, I'll get on it pronto.

>>121915519
Ermor and Lemuria.

Because I'm a faggot.

>>121918048
Dw, it'll be a couple of hours now before I could do the next turn anyway, if you want to see whom your neighbours are and try to message them on steam or call them out in the thread that's advisable.

>>121918048
Oh and some trivia, C'tis and Oceania are about as good neighbours as Stalin and Hitler, the southern continent is as happy as could be for having Sceleria, Ermor, Van and C'tis on it, and there are two water nations, Oceania to the right and Pelagia to the left.

>>121918493
Also, Skeletons are extremely friendly and totally want to help everyone, so there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for anyone to attack them.

Let's play a game /domg/: Build your SC.

Make an SC that could take on any horror and could just win the game all alone, an unkillable motherfucker to end all the unkillable motherfuckers.

>>121918734
>Taking on any horror

You literally need multiple Wishes for that.

>>121918625
BTW I AM SKELLINGTONS

>>121918734
Considering Infernal Prison/Claw of Kokytos exist, that's outright impossible. Maybe you might be able to stack completely outrageous MR, full resistances and regeneration with several thousand HP prophet heroic obesity chassis or whatever, but those will take anything out of action.

>>121918831
You have to survive Scabiel for one round but if you can do that, Mage Bane will deal with any of them.

Is oceania here?
It seems like we had some agreement.

requesting 12 hour turn extension, computer fried itself trying to load up the tumor that was my .2h file. will try to post maps/graphs soon though.

>>121919173
Oh yeah, that's a thing. Good call.

>>121920649
>>121919173

sending scabiel and co to inferno is really funny

>>121919173
>Scabiel
what's his title? I want to look him up on the inspector.

>>121920918
Maker of Ruins

>>121920918

'the maker of ruins'

you can also just search for scabiel, names work

>>121901061
I am now.

Intiate operation fluttering flock
I repeat intiate operation fluttering flock

>>121873591
Sounds fun, joining as Tien Chi.

Hey Boksi do you have the rips of the music? I've been trying to find Santa Maria

Stale Vanheim, are you here? We talked about trading gems, do you remember me? (I don't know if you are trading just with me or with other people, but would prefer not giving away free info for others)

50 per 50 gems seems cool to me.

>>121922176

Am in chat.

Sent the turn.
Please be gentle.

>>121923347
As long as you're against C'tis you're a friend of Oceania, and vice versa. I hope you picked wisely.

>>121922789
I hope you like being next to burbs.

>>121922807
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtYOx37bX6g

Not exactly the same, but this is the song.

>>121924237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbwO5fw3LIs
And this is my favorite version of it, personally.

>>121920907
Is there any way to see them mowing through the devils on their way out?

>>121922807
This is all the stuff I've ripped out of the game:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/gfr21dsj664d5g9/Dom4_music%282%29.zip

Santa Maria should be in there somewhere.

>>121923479
I'm totally friends with Oceania.
I hope that everyone can get along,
and no bloodshed to befall any of us.

>>121924549
5 versions of it too, nice.

>>121924770
Those mariaX.mp3 aren't actually all the same song, they're just from the same album. Same with draam and fikon.

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>>121923668
At least they aren't bats.

>>121924747
That said I would enjoy a trading partner willing to part with blood virgins.

I don't think that's a problem really, but those spells take them out of action.

can someone explain me how the various lategame horror spell works?
i am trying to understan if horrorseed would be good but in a testgame it seems to do nothing but kill 1-2 troops after 10 turns.
also how would one remove it?

>>121927947
You don't remove horrorseed. But it's also pretty shit.
As you've noticed it kills very slowly.

You need to drop like 5-10 cast on a stack for it to do any damage and hope that opponent doesn't have any chaff with his shit to soak up horrorseeds. (research stack is a viable target, research stack with some patrolling birds not really)

In practice it's useful for killing singular hard to kill entities or immortals, but once again, very slowly.

I didn't need a turn resend, thanks whoever that was.

Just

THREE

More players needed

Do you want to be part of /domg/ history?

Do you want to join MEME-O-RAMA 2015?

Do you want to git rekt?

Do you want to rek skrubs?

JOIN THE REKKENING NOW!

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck

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>Evocation 5
>Astral 2
>Can't be resisted by any means
>Can't be reduced by any means
>Can easily be spammed by even S1 mages after Light of the Northern Star
>Has an AoE of 5
>Has 100 precision
>Will make your entire army sleep
>Will make your thugs sleep
>Will make your pretender sleep
>Will cause anal sleep rape

Is this literally the strongest spell in the game?

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The stereotype is real

>>121923347
This is your first game, no?

>>121923347
When you send in a turn, and you're the last person, you get the next turn in less than a minute, btw.

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Crapaclysm
>not announcing a change in Mods
what are you some kind of fag?

>>121931434
Sorry about that, we're all caught up now.

Also, Xibalba if you're here.. nice job

I received my turn 14 times. I can kinda guess who did it.

Skeletons don't like spam and will treat this as a sign of hostility.

Keking Backstabbers

>>121939281
Dat kekfilter is hilarious desu senpai.

That's the way for less Shit posting even if domg is kinda free

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>>121910115

>>121906362
kill "pretender god" and hope he doesn't have too much health

you know it's a good turn when you open the file and it's all your commanders dying to earth elementals

>>121940934
I WARNED YOU BRO.

>>121940934
>Having so many E5 mages you can spam Earth Attack.
Wow

>>121941316
NATIONGEN.

admin-kun, what happened with the turn? i-it's for tomorrow and I want it now ;_;

>>121941554
BE MORE SPECIFIC.

>>121941554
(talking to stalewarriors-admin)

>>121932261
That is correct.
It's also my first MA game.

>>121937448
What did bats do this time?

Are any of the nations in Dominions based off the Sea Peoples that allegedly existed around 1100 BC?

>>121944147
There's Phoenicians, thats about as close as you get IIRC.

>>121943662
I got the bat blitz. Cracking one of my forts in a single turn, along with several provinces. So many bats

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>>121945489
bats dudn't do nuthin he'z a good bat his Mama Micla raised him right

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>>121945846
There are indeed bats everywhere to the south, trying to spread in to the southern continent. Huge numbers of them.

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>>121947397
#BatLivesMatter

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>>121947548

>>121947548
If I was still there I would put up perpetual storm and laugh at the grounded bats.

Round 2, Niefelhiem?

>>121949932
Also, of the last five turns, the admin Ulm has staled on four of them.

ULM!

>No turns

>>121951128
Join more games.

>>121951128
>implications
Join more games scrub.

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>>121948102
pls do not oppress the bats
#BurnUlm
#EndBatismNow

>>121952240
Do you know what happened to bats in another game, thanks to me? Firt they were stuck in their caves, then when they ventured forth into a war, BAM perpetual storm.

And I also attacked them too, but that was less funny.

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>>121951447
>>121952040
I'm in six and I haven't gotten a single turn today.

>>121952446
I was not 'stuck' in my caves I had quite a few normal land provinces.

>>121954363
Stalewarriors and Salt Elemental?
Which others?

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>>121954363
just take it easy anon, you don't want to burn out

>>121954569
Shush, I was making it more dramatic.

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>>121954363
Wait, I'm in five. Counted one that already ended.

>>121954649
Stalewarriors, TornVale, MilesGloriosus, 2Scrubs1Tub, CastleDoctrine. I was in SaltElemental but I got eliminated.

>>121954657
Nah, I'm fine. They're all pretty damn fun.

>>121955094
CastleDoc hasn't updated today? I must be going crazy. Which side are you?

Or it could be because it updated in both of our yesterday's, however my yesterday is the today we're talking of.

Also sorry for killing you in Salt Elemental.

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>>121955428
>Which side are you?
Not sure what you mean by side, but I'm Not-China.

>Or it could be because it updated in both of our yesterday's, however my yesterday is the today we're talking of.
Now you've confused me. But yeah, I took my turn last night.

>Also sorry for killing you in Salt Elemental.
Assuming you're Asphodel/Ermor, it's all good.

>>121915519
I've always had a soft spot for Jomon, call me a weeb if you must. There's something about their underwater troops I love.
Favorite spell would probably be Unleash Imprisoned Ones for the flavor.

>>121898776
Not a terrible ratio.

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>>121955905
nothing with weeb, after all my favorite nation is EA Yomi

Why do Agarthans have such shitty attack and defense on their non-olm nonhumans? Even the ancient ones are terrible.

>>121956135
because when they do actually hit it hits like a truck

>>121956135
Agarthans have no depth perception. They're also pure of heart and not warlike.

>>121941554
This desu.
Fucking auto-host.

>>121955868
Asphodel, or the one nation that has been at war with everyone who has died as it's known.

I'm from the UK, time zones and so such.

And I'm Not-Japan, great.

>>121956276
I won't force host, I'll make sure the next turn is the right length though.

I in no way condone or support spamming the nations whom have not done their turn yet with resends.

>>121956436
Also, all three nations that haven't submitted that aren't Helheim (who may have been stabbed by a methhead) are my neighbours.

It's tempting but I'm of the view that any admin actions should not benefit the admin in the game.

>>121956436
>the next turn
No, make sure THIS turn is the right length.

>>121931026
It can be reduced by protection since it's AP, not AN.

It takes at least 5 casts to put someone down, more if they're wearing decent armor. You'll also need to keep casting it to make sure they stay asleep.

The mage AI tends to go full retard with it and focus on a single group of units, rather than spreading it around to make everyone go to sleep.

It's a great spell but it has downsides.

>>121956314
not russia here.
You are a backstabbing son of a pig.

>>121963325
Not skeletons here
If it makes you feel better he's helped me immensely

>>121964720
no, no that does not make me feel better.

Why would anyone help Ermor when Ermor is right on their border?

>>121956135
They're a bunch of obese dudes with sight problems. Plus they aren't really that warlike.

>>121964906
sceleria not Ermor

>>121955094
nobody in 2s1t but ulm and xibalbs count for shit, lets be honest.

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good night /domg/

Just fucking Forcehost already, it's bast the usual time and the people who haven't gone are obviously going to stale anyway, why make us wait a whole tucking day for them to do so?

>>121973372
>an extension was made for people who couldn't make it by the usual time
>there are people who haven't submitted by the usual time
>you should forcehost now that they think they have that time.

i like how the theme is now forcing people to stale.

>>121974682
Better a staler because of real life stuff than an extension for a tester

>>121974682
It seems that R'lyeh had lost his turn, the poor dear, because he took it now that I resent it to him.

>>121976761
hi you used a bunch of words and they make no fucking sense. what is a 'tester'?

is this some deragatory slang for people actually autistic to play the game well? Because I guarantee that those are not the people who are taking until the last minute to take their turn/

>>121976761
>Tells people to git gud
>Unironically butthurt when they try to learn game mechanics

Never change

>>121977773
There's a guy who got buttmad because some other guy beat him after testing his scripting. It's a meme now.

>>121904465
I don't really have any beef with you at this time Pelagia. You are safe at least until Oceania is gone.

>>121981328
Nevermind now there is a problem. I really liked that squid.

>>121956436
>>121956573
that makes no sense, why did was this turn delayed?
you should have made sure this turn was the right length, damn.

and since it was wrong, just forcehost so we get the turn.

>>121973372
>>121974682
look at the admin log, it wasn't a intentional extension, but a mistake extension.

Admin fucked it up with the last turn and somehow fucked it up with this one too.

Forcehost already, the people who are left are going to stale anyways.

Hey Mictlan sub, could you post in the steam thread?

A1E1 casters can do RoS with 3 gems, right? Summon Earthpower -> RoS?

>>121986575

Yes

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>>121991180
because he thought you were bluffing (aka he didn' t have shit for scouting), believed all emorians need to die ASAP, and was probable not a very happy guy either

>>121991651

Yeah, but I gave him a chance to retreat. He saw the massive army waiting for him while he was besieging my castle. He literally had a great position. All his neighbors are fighting each other and he decided to attack the one who's probably the strongest but with worthless to him land. It boggles my mind.

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>>121991804
in the end he was only a man

>>121981498
I panicked and you didn't reply.

>>121991804

If you have a diplomatically active ermor or lemuria on your border, and all your neighbours are busy, that sounds like a prime time to try to take them out.

Diplomatically active ermor is fucking cancerous.

>>121992364

Why must you be so mean to us poor skeletons? We only want to socialize.

>>121992465
They are all filthy Skeletonists.

We must fight for our right to be free skellingtons

If you want to go to war over the two water provinces by my cap then fine Lemuria, I thought we'd already psuedo-agreed that they were yours until I was able to take them, and as I said sorry for it being unexpected but I didn't know when my God was going to appear. I still stand by my offer of compensation to you for those territories.

>>121992982

Indeed.

Funny thing is Man betrayed me in NoStalers as well. Man players seem to like doing that.

With all probability, I'll lose my capital next turn, and I'll go AI soon after.

If you guys want to still have an admin, somebody please contact me and I'll let you have the admin password.

>>121993470
It's suck, but for awhile I can be an admin. I have wrote you on steam.

>>121993782
Ok man. I've messaged you back the password.

>>121993454

I love how any time anyone fights diplo players, they have 'betrayed' them, and any time diplo players fight someone, it's a 'defensive war', or a 'helping an ally'.

My only advice is, if you notice a heavily diplomatically active player near you, kill them first.

>>121994675

>they have 'betrayed' them

NoStalers Man literally betrayed me. We made a deal about territorial division and a few turns later he decided that he didn't like that deal and attacked without warning.

Also, why play a strategy game with other people if you don't like diplo? Might as well play with the AI.

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>>121994675
>a great diplomatic player is good at making alliances and being in the justified position at war which is usually defensive
no shit Man, this is a game of strategy after all especially if your playing skellie bones

>>121994675
Or given they are prone to wars of "helping an ally", or as we usually call it honouring the alliance, talk to them and together kill the salty "one-nation one-victory" player and drink his tears.

>>121915519
Sauromatia
Guardians of the deep, who doesn't love monsters coming from the depth to protect your provinces

>>121995657
Oh, and Sauromatia because amazons, swamps and poisons. Wish they played more on the poison side of the nation.

>>121915519

Ermor because delicious tears
BoT because delicious tears

>>121994789

Have you seen the AI in this game.

The problem is that high diplo players often don't even need to use any of the game mechanics to win. If you're always teaming people, and getting a bigger share than allies who you put in positions of doing the lion's share of the fighting and then getting ganked by someone else while you help yourself to the spoils, you don't need to, for example, know how the spell system works, fight battles upon which hinges your empire, or anything else that's actually exciting or interesting.

Games with people doing a lot of diplo drag on as people don't attack for fear of getting gangbanged by 'justified' alliances, and are basically over from the point that people start listening to the diplo player. At no point is the diplo player under any sort of risk of losing, yet the game drags on for another 70 turns because they don't want to risk actually fighting anyone without 3 or 4 people at their back.

It's boring as hell. It's hard to even call it 'chessmastering', either, because you don't need much intelligence to pull it off. Just to understand the tropes that motivate other players (typically historical ones like 'war' and 'treaties' which don't really apply in a game about a free for all between gods) and put a bunch of effort in typing up whatever.

>>121996236
Usually it's Ermor who is bitchin' the most.

>>121996474
see that's the thing though, people feel "honor bound" and forget the whole point of the game is to win. Those concepts you mentioned are basic tier diplomacy, you ever wondered why most games preference their descriptions with "anything but trade is none-binding"? if you're truly upset about diplomacy you should stay clear of foolishly lawful players or host no-diplomacy games

>>121994675
>My only advice is, if you notice a heavily diplomatically active player near you, kill them first.
That's a bad idea. The diplomacy-focused player will paint you as the aggressor and use other people to dogpile you while he gets stronger.

I've had some success with counter-diplomacy. Diplomacy-oriented players often rely on people not realizing how strong they are and letting other people take the risk while they gobble up free land. People really don't like being manipulated that way, so you can point out what they're doing and their former allies will often join you in a removal attempt.

>>121994963
>justified position at war
Would it kill you to admit you just want their land?

>>121996960
nope because that's the point of the game, my point was if a player is strong diplo then yes 9/10 times in the reality they weaved for the other players they really do think the diplo player is justifed. it's like you said the best way to stop a diplo player besides a none-diplo game is to expose his schemes. My favorite method is to cover his land in scouts and post screen shots of his army positions and other nice things when I can, a great way to make a diplo player flub up if he isn't careful with his wording.

>>121996960
This.
We had a problem with one of this kind of player in smallgods and we are dealing with it this way.

>>121996587

It's kind of hard to 'steer clear' of players like that when most players are like that (and domg is no exception).

Murdering a heavy diplo player before they can marshall an army of allies to smash you, though, is kinda doable.

They rarely actually know how to play other than a few tricks like defensive RoS and making big slow armies. Hitting them hard and fast with mixed tactics can cause them to collapse before their dupes can overwhelm you. Then you pull back, hold off the dupes until the diplo player's influence wears off, and play the rest of the game normally.

>>121996960

Depends how quickly you can hit them.

And getting into the game of 'he said she said' with a diplo player is like unto actual torture. It's also not the actual game, Dominions, that I want to play.

> Would it kill you to admit you just want their land?

It would, though, is the problem. As they don't want to learn to play the actual game, and want to play instead a diplomacy metagame based around deception and so on. So they would 'die' in the game if they did admit that.

>>121996960

Also, I subbed into a position where a player had nearly won a diplo victory in this manner.

I did the whole counterdiplo thing, but holy fuck. It's like pulling teeth. What's worse is that the people who were harder to diplo get gangbanged by the diplo player, so you're left trying to counter-diplo a bunch of people who are heavily brainwashed.

It's just.. eurgh. Like, it's working, but wow, it's awful.

The problem here seems to be that when someone loses due to not knowing something in the game, whether it be a strategy or tactic or whatever, they can see what it was easily and learn from it.

When people lose due to the diplomatic ministartions of other players, it not only is hard to see whom caused it, it may be hard to see that it was due to such things at all (The Pythium whom ignored Bogarus eating AIs in order to attack Lemuria for example)

Though I suspect it's a taboo thing to mention in a game general, having sessions of Diplomacy played here, with AARs, may help as there's only diplomacy of the exact same ilk as in dominions, no l33t strategies or sacreds.

>>121997353
>And getting into the game of 'he said she said' with a diplo player is like unto actual torture. It's also not the actual game, Dominions, that I want to play.
>>121997594
>I did the whole counterdiplo thing, but holy fuck. It's like pulling teeth. What's worse is that the people who were harder to diplo get gangbanged by the diplo player, so you're left trying to counter-diplo a bunch of people who are heavily brainwashed.
Yeah, it sucks. I got lucky and a single strongly worded message which was essentially
>if you don't fight this player right now he's going to rape you in these specific ways
managed to turn it around properly. Then the other player ragequit

I think the only real solution would be to play with a group that contains only players who have a decent amount of experience. They're harder to diplomance than newbies and tend to also notice and counter other cheesy stuff like throne rushing.

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>>121997605
well it doesn't help either that there are many players who go in with the mindset of their own goal rather then to win teh game proper. For example the pythium player probable thought "man I know I can't win with my own skills, so I'm gonna help my bro bogarus who I know outside the game and just focus on fucking up ghosts instead." Other self goals like that really shake up how the game is played and probable makes it easier for diplo players to fuck with the more serious game minded players who rather have a test of skills more then anything.

however it's dangerous talk to start saying "this is how the game is meant to be played' because then your going down of how the game should be played in the first place, I do however agree games with minimal diplo seem more enjoyable, especially with noobie players how want to play to get better at the actual game then put in hours of time acting like politicians

>>121997952
I was more suggesting the aim is to make players more aware of diplomatic ministrations, as due to the environment it's hard to seperate them entirely from the game.

I agree that player shouldn't be expected to have to do tonnes of political manuevering to hope to win, but they should at least be taught what others will use against them. Even simply checking every few turns with other players what third parties are saying goes a long way to stop diplomancing being instant win.

Also I love Diplomacy, hence mentioning it.

I actually think Diplomacy in this game is extremely interesting, quite at the same level of the magic system.

The cool thing is that everything is temporary because only a single dude can win the game, so there aren't any possibilities for a stable alliance the whole game, and you alway want to make sure to get an advantage for you and your ally but you don't want to make your allies too powerful.

I think the problems start when the heavy diplo player can KEIKAKU their way to victory, because their allies are too much retarded to see that the alliance is helping their allies more than themselves.

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>>121998282
ah I see now. I did remember reading that basic diplo guide and it is fun to just chat with everybody even if it's just "sup homeslice" messages.
>>121998349
this does typical happen when a Wannabe Light joins a newbie game. new players do want want allies badly so they can feel that security they think it offers

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>People complaining about diplomacy
>In a turn based grand strategy game

>>121998349
It is interesting, but use a small d for it, large D Diplomacy is a board game which if Dominions was not based on slightly I'd be surprised.

And yes, the problems start and end there, people need to be more aware of what everyone is doing and saying, hence me suggesting the board game as it's brilliant practise.

>>121998443
That's why I was recommending some expereinced diplo players playing Diplomacy and each writing up AARs, probably putting them on the wiki.

>>121998561
I'm not complaining, I'm suggesting that it is something that people can lose repeatedly to without learning WHY and HOW. Which should be remedied (Diplomacy)

Who'd be up for Diplomacy then guys?

>>121997605
>>121998282
I'd be interested in some Diplomacy, though I've never played before.

>>121998561
The problem is a lot of players seem to put little to no effort into it, and end up just letting the strongest player take away an easy win. Some even help him into a win, which is worse.

If you're one of the few players in a game who actually pays attention, you end up having to convince people about basic things like "Caelum is 2x larger than everyone else and needs to die".

http://webdiplomacy.net/board.php?gameID=169648

The password is ErfSnek

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>>121999646
another thing new player should learn is that just because they were allied to the winner they themselves are not "winners." their god is banished and dies just as much as the other fools. There is a reason Disciple is it's own game mode

>>121999781
You need to register, but that's free/quick.

The reliability thing looks cool, Llamabeast stealing that would be helpfull.

>>121999781
>>121999874
Cool, I'll register an account and sign up later today.

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>No disciples game mode where you get to choose which god you ally with so all the gods have to diplo with the disciples or end up getting clusterfucked

>>122000064
Cool, I can't reserve a place, but given it's just me and one other joined so far then it should be fine.

>>121998562
i actually used capital D because i was making a reference to that game. Dominions is like diplomacy with a battle minigame, you can be the best player of Dominions in the world and still lose if the other guys outdiplomacy you.

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>>122000139
A game where you can play the slut waifu and have onii-sans woo over you

>>122000160
If it's popular enough to fill up before I can join, I'm sure there'll be more games later.

>>122000243

I'd join that game just to solo everyone busy fapping over whatever.

Ironman style, no disciples, ONE GOD ONE LAND.

>>122000139
Organise one as such.

Simplest way to do it would be to have the Pretenders and disciples sign up as their nations on steam, someone starts a SP game with those nations on the right map to assign starting positions (you'd then have to upload a new copy of the .map txt with #specstarts for each nation but that's trivial).
Then have the Pretenders make their builds, and whore to the various disciples.
Then everyone joins the game on Llamaserver, and teams are assigned based on that diplomacy. Voila.

>>122000264
Yeap, but I'm aiming low for now.

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>>122000243
>Tfw no bf with a big rock hard erf snek

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>>122000559
>angel-fu will never find her perfect god-san

>>122000521
Dominions doesn't allow for ad hoc dominion effect changes. What I want is a game where people can choose to ally with Ermor and then their dominion starts growing skeletons. That kinda stuff.

>>122000707
It wouldn't be ad-hoc dominion changes, there's no way in hell that could be pulled off without serriou modding, and maybe not even then.
It's just adding another layer of pre-game to allow diplomacy rather than allowing people to change teams in-game.

>>122000668
>You will never tie down and gang rape an angel trying to become a god and then corrupt her into becoming a demon instead
>You will never have to thrust at her together with twenty others to only have one successfully penetrate her
>You will never watch your high-moraled commander push the chaff aside and slam himself inside of her
>You will never fuck her face as your commander cums inside of her, her holiness and awe fading just a little bit

>>122000842
>Pre-game

No

The idea is all nations start, yet only some actually have pretenders and dominion spread

Then the pretender-nations have to ally with the non-pretender nations which will cause their dominion to spread

Alternatively the non-pretender nations can fight the pretender nations hoping to banish all religion from the world

>>122000985
I know that was the idea, I replied with as close a thing you could do within the games mechanics, down to knowing the start positions and Pretenders before haggling.
Your idea would need a fair bit of modding, at least.

>>122001160
not really feasible since disciples really benefit frombeing designed specifically with their team.

WHICH GAME IS CURRENTLY GETTING YIFFED BY PANGAEA THE HARDEST?

>>122002982
Definitely not Stalewarriors :^)

>>122002982
Bozbash

>>122003145
Stalewarriors is going to come down to Pan, Van and Bat.

All nations with crazy expansion so it's not surprising they thrive on a map such as this.

>>122002982
My scouts show me Pangaea has borders with nearly every other nation in the game.

question: how do i stop a domkill if i am the domkiller and i just want to domkill player B but not player A. i already moved out bloodsacrificing near player B but i can only move so many temples

>>122004154
build more temples near player B and if smart enough get player A to pay you for destroying temples near them

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>>122003476
truly the only one you can trust is moving statues

>>122004210
i don't have much safe space desu and he doesn't have much money too.

How are we THIS dead?

>>122005203

Domkill is an indiscriminate weapon.

Also the entire point of the game is that you have no friends.

Reminder

http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=Crapaclysm

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Why is this allowed.

>>122013301
>losing a vanhere
Scrub

>>122013512
It's usually a good idea to bring a handful of serfs or similar trash units with to bump up the squad size to 5+ and to catch arrows. Since your commander can cast air shield after blessing the vanheres, you actually avoid the usual risk of having your arrow catcher at the front set to 'guard commander' (that risk being that the archers will then be shooting at your commander once the arrow catcher gets to him) which means that your venheres won't be getting shot at while they shred the infantry.

>>122013301
>>122013512

photo of legolas riding down the stairs on that shield while firing arrows

'let me tell you about elves'

>>122003476
>tfw I could have ended Pan early but didn't because it would have impacted my already shitty expansion

DANK
MEMES
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=LotusClusterfuck

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>tfw still no Stalewarriors turn
>tfw still expanding
>tfw hiding indie provinces so I can charm the dope ass commanders in them.

How do I into SC? I tend to suck horribly when I make them.

>>122018990
something something brand something something vine shield, something something fear/awe GG NR

>>122018990
Melee ones are focused on being tanky and resistant so they can kill everything until it hits the turn limit or HP rout limit
Caster ones are usually about casting elemental spam spells or battlefield wide ones until it kills everything on the battlefield

>>122018990
It must be able to survive against whatever your opponent has. Is your opponent going to spam air elementals? It needs shock resistance. Does your opponent have a bunch of astral mages spamming stellar cascades? It needs to have 0 fatigue so that they won't target it. And, of course, it must be able to survive against all of the units that your opponent has deployed. This is usually easier than building to counter the opponent's magic, since the requirements are generally the same - high protection, additional forms of mitigations (vine shield, awe/fear, etc), and regeneration.

>>122020528
It's mindless that prevents it from being hit by cascades

>>122020528
>>122021249

The spellcasting AI doesn't target mindless or 0 enc, but the spell does actually affect both. If it accidentally hits one while targeting a non-mindless non-enc-0 target.

>>122021603
I've had tarts get targeted by cascades

>>122021249
>>122021912
Good to know. That's what I had believed until someone here told me otherwise.

>>122000878
This sounds incredibly specific.

>>121996474
Diplomacy is a valid skill and part of dominions, some people are more socially inclined than mechanically.
The ends justify the means.

>>122010195
>Also the entire point of the game is that you have no friends.

But if you're smart you have puppets.

>>122018176
did you get that Air 6 mage you told us?

also, is Stale vanheim here?

>>122018176
>still no Stalewarriors turn
>everybody that hadn't taken their turn as of when it normally ends still hasn't taken it, and will inevitably stale
Fucking told you to forcehost, Admin.