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Jew Rooms Edition

Last thread: >>121740089

>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never

Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly. 9mb patch MAY have fixed this.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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SLOW THE FUCK DOWN
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FIRST FOR SEXUALIZING LITTLE HORN
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>>121804398
nice first nerd
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UPDATE
THE
LOST
SEEDS
NIGGER

There should be a way to toggle item groupings.
I hate on-hit activation items.
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>>121804467
NO! Never again! removes activated Items from the pool, it's a good start.
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Today's daily is fucking awful.

Not a single HP upgrade as Judas all the way to Flooded Caves 2, where I died to a champion black leech.
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Edmund "If there's fun to be had, I'll make it bad" McMillen
Edmund "If the item's a hit, let's turn it to shit" McMillen
Edmund "If you're feeling gay, a nerf's on the way" McMillen
Edmund "Nothing is safe, I'll nerf a year late" McMillen
Edmund "I'd collect unemployment before I'd give you enjoyment" McMillen
Edmund "My name is McMillen, your fun I'll be killin" McMillen
Edmund "If it clears a room, the item is doomed" McMillen
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nth for reskinned enemies
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>>121804638
>gold
kek
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>>121804593
judas is really unfun to play as now
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>>121804597
>My name is McMillen, your fun I'll be killin
So wait, is that how you pronounce "Millen"?
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>>121804712
light green/brown, doing suicide kings makes me colorblind
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>Have Mom's Box and tick
>Fight a boss
>Deal no visible damage for a few seconds before it starts ticking down

Is this shit broken?
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I keep getting these super secret rooms with a black turd. Anything special about them or are they a waste of time?
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>>121804750
I wouldn't go that far, he still has a decent chance and one of the best starting damage/damage increases, so he's still okay

but you have to get health which sucks
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>>121804842
Everything is broken right now and not in a good way.
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Reminder that this is your average redditor
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>>121804881
>actually expecting all secret rooms to be low risk-high reward
A bit of salt just makes the steak taste better, doesn't it?
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Any day now...
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>>121804948
>mfw my negative review about edmund fucking the game up got like 250 rates on the day he released the patch
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>>121805048

But that's no risk no reward. The poop doesn't drop anything, you just walk in, see it's trash, and walk out. The biggest risk is wasting a bomb.
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>>121805063
stop poking him it's rude
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>>121804273
>filter
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>>121805063
Sure, good luck with that. I'm not going to play the challange until Mr. Stupid AI is fixed
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>>121805147
>The biggest risk is wasting a bomb
That's the risk part silly boy.
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>>121805130
where is is

did it got deleted
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>>121805173

Maybe it will be fixed by the time the retard decides to wander over and let me advance.
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>>121805063
bomb the rock and push it over to the punching bag so it aggros onto him
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>>121804948
Do these guys get to have their dicks sucked by Danielle or something?
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>>121805261

Fuck, I forgot they weren't rooted to the ground.

I didn't use a bomb doing it, I just pushed it over near the pit and it opened up.

Thanks anon.
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>>121805240
http://steamcommunity.com/id/tocaso/recommended/401920
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>>121805369
just don't eat your steak too quickly
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They're going to fix Ultra Greed, right?
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>>121805464
>Mega greed was a fantastic fight, and introduced a great health mechanic that could have saved the rest of the game's tedium from lack of damage items. The other new boss, Hush, was merely okay. It was only a mediocre bullet hell/shmup boss, but with similar health mechanic. Still, arguable overall better than the other bosses that were already in the game.
How is making damage up items useless a great mechanic?
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>>121805464
>inconstancies
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>>121805895

Not broken. :)
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>>121805895
>>121805949
Yes, broken. Yes, they're going to fix him. Next week's patch. Tyrone went too hard on buffing him, for real. Edmumd said so himself, not trying to meme
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>>121806057
Although I can honestly not tell the difference from before compared to now, he is still just stupidly spinning around and shooting coins all the fucking time so I don't know why people are complaining, or what they're even complaining about
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>>121805464
>shitshow was censored as "*****how"
>shitcanning wasn't censored at all
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I hate those rooms so fucking much
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>>121804948
This guy took 109 blue pills, jesus christ that delusion
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>>121806338
Not even a good item tho
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>>121805940
Because it made low damage characters more viable to kill the boss in a reasonable amount of time
If it was handled well enough and not quite as strict with extremely high damage builds, it could have saved a lot of the tedium that results from not getting enough damage ups in a run
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>>121806434
yes it is you turbonigger
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I don't know why my bombs weren't hurting me, I never picked up hurts so good
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Does brimstone still override blindfolds or was that fixed
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>>121806358

>The PAID DLC being so bugged half of it is missing is a legit reason.
>Not explaining a fucking word of this to your customers is okay because you don't want to spoil them. :)

I hope that spineless apologetic dipshit nerd chokes to death on a steak tonight.
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>>121806492
He/you already have Squeezy which is good enough as far as tears up go, you don't need higher DPS at the cost of damage down. Turbonigger
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>>121806434

It's pretty good if you already have some damage.
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>>121806498
Dr. Fetus+Ipecac makes you immune to explosions.
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how far do you guys think edmund is gonna milk isaac?

afterbirth already feels a lot more forced than WotL
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>>121806560
Fixed, I remember some anon posting Lilith with Brimstone alongside >can't open mouth while blindfolded
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>dagaz rune
>"i'll save it for the next floor"
>next floor
>curse of the lost
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>>121806673
fuck you
turbonigger
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>>121806057

They also said Azazel was SUPPOSED to be that strong. :)
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>this is still an item
>it's still in the treasure room pool
>it's still not a pill
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For fucks sake, you can never tell which flies hush summons will follow you and which wont. For a second I thought non following flies make a star, but following ones do that as well. Was it that HARD to make it different color?
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>>121807029
If it was a pill you could abuse it forever with placebo. You wouldn't want to have FUN would you?
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>>121807018
What? Azazel is broken, instead of nerfing either charge time or damage they managed to nerf both because Edmund can't make himself comprehensible in English. He wrote to some other dev to "nerf damage AND charge time" instead of damage OR charge.
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>NL salty about SPEED! even in his other videos

Not like I blame him, that challenge is fucking bullshit and rely on luck more than anything else.
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>NL
>>>/r/bindingofisaac
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>>121807296

I mean pre-nerf. Over a year ago. When people said Azazel was EZ Mode.

"It's supposed to be like that. :)"
"The characters aren't meant to be balanced. :)"
"Some are supposed to be easier than others. :)"

Then a year later, nerf out of nowhere, for no reason, and to top it all off it's broken and they have to patch the patch.
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>>121807486
>wah wah they're talking about ecelebs!
>>>/v/
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I bet all of my the lost unlocks that this will be greed/super greed.
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>>121807596

Safe bet.
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Impregnable

Also try to get as much HP for your Lilith when you can. She benefits from getting hurt
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>>121807719
Are you OK anon
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>>121807774
No

If I were I wouldn't be in these threads having more fun with shitposting than playing the game

Lilith, Super Bum, Hush and Ultra Greed so far are the only good things to come out of this expansion
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>>121807296
That's honestly the most pathetic excuse. Edmund never bothers to write comprehensible English, even in his actual company e-mails. He doesn't bother to read over his e-mails even once before sending them. Then the people at nicalis who check the e-mail just do whatever he says without thinking, double-checking, requesting clarification, or even testing. Like, holy shit, is this what indie development is like?
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>>121807774
He's fine.
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>>121807902
Source on the company email part?
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>>121804597

Edmund "You choked down the steak, now your game I will break" McMillen
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>>121806738
That's straight up brokenI love it
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>>121808034
>Azazel: sadly this was a typo on my part when i sent a message to the guys that i wanted to re-balance az by raising his charge time slightly OR lowering his damage.. i accidentally typed AND and we got the ultra nerfed az we know today.

Unless you think he's telling people to fix things in the game by text or fax machine, which is even worse.
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>>121805063
the spikes count as an obstacle so as long as you're standing over spikes, even if they're in the ground, they won't poke their heads out
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>>121808056

>I love it

Nerf inbound
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>>121804597
edmund "you wanted this item? the codes i can't write 'em" mcmillen
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>>121808179

They shoot at the punching bag, not you.

Anyway I finished that run, and won thanks to a full health pill. Good riddance.
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>>121808187

This is my problem with bringing up item imbalances

I mean sackhead is clearly OP, but I don't want to call any attention to that because I know rather than slightly reduce the sack spawn rate Muffins would make it completely useless instead.
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>>121808558
>filter
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>>121808558
Now he will nerf it because you're using filters.
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>>121808724
not everyone plays on a 320x240 CRT monitor
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Any good stream online rite now?
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>>121808802

>He thinks the filter is "High definition"
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>>121808762

Kinda hoping he'll force use of the filter just to spite fags like you who constantly whine about something that doesn't affect you.
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Can you get ludovico on the greed mode item room?
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>>121808802
Are you serious mate?
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>>121809001

Actually, Edmund thinks the filter is a joke and called the people who campaigned for it to be a menu option whiny bitches
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>>121808941
>>121809259
I bet you're the kind of dumbasses who play SNES games on their 4K monitor without any filter for "true experience" or whatever
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I love this seasoning, Ed
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>>121809374
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>>121809374
Oh, wait. He IS serious.
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>>121809489
>>121809454
do you also play on a 12" CRT TV with a shitty RF cable for a more authentic gameplay?
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>>121809374

Nigga.
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>>121809437
Slow down my friend. :)
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>>121809664
stop
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>>121809374
>>121809664
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>>121809776
>>121809689
>>121809489
>>121809454
>there are people on this general, RIGHT NOW, who think the left one looks better
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>durr, hello, I fly and shoot tears and oh by the way I have more health than monstro and regularly spawn with 2 or more of me in the same room

Fucking Edmund.
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>>121809904

Crossed the line, baited too hard.
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>>121809374
You're actually being serious? I would shitpost about you needing to go back to /r/bindingofisaac, but even those drooling subhumans hate the filter.

I hope you understand this speaks volumes about your taste.
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Holy shit, Immaculate Conception in the Shop

As Lilith
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>>121809437
Got mitre out of the boss, so it wasn't all bad.

Didn't have a reroll for the next angel room, so nothing there because it was more money.

Quadshot + 20/20, was hoping for eight shots, but oh well, I'll take it
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T-thanks, Eden's Blessing.
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>>121810015
>>121809995
>>121809832
>>121809776
>>121809689
>>121809489
>>121809454
>this is what these idiots' monitor looks like
just admit that your computer is too shitty to have the filter enabled
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wow, you were right, this looks so much better without the filter!
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I can't tell if this is a bait or not.
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>>121810350

It is.


Heavy-handed bait aside, in a shop, curse of the blind, two items for sale.
I only have enough for one.
Top or bottom row, /boig/?
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>>121810350
>this person enjoys playing with an option I don't like
>must be bait
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>>121807112
Wht difference does it make? Kill/avoid all of them.
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>>121810563
Unless it's Depths 2, you save your money.
Otherwise top.
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>>121810704
They have a billion hp when they're near hush, and I have to know if I must target them in priority or simply go to the other side.
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>>121810754

>Save my money

So I can fight Greed in the last 2 shops?

It was night light.
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>>121810120
>some guy showing how he is eating shit
>"Hey, why are you eating shit, you retard?"
>"It's awesome, your tongues are just fucking outdated, so you can't perceive the godlike taste of shit"
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>>121810960
Could be worse.
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>>121811069
Pretty much.
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>>121811069
>better quality = shit
I finally found the persons who seed torrents of CAMRIP movies
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>curse of the blind
>only have enough money to buy one of the two shop items
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>>121811237
>better quality
>same pixels, just blurred down to swf level
Choose one
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>>121811258
>you end up taking the little baggy
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How do I win the speed challenge?

Am I really just stuck resetting till I get something stupid OP in the first item room then praying to god I don't get fucked on RNG on rooms/bosses?
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>>121811258
>It's an active
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>>121811237

xDD trololololol
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>>121811386
>you had left on the ground two Joker cards to pick them later
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>>121811258
>you also picked up Chaos earlier
>it turns out to be Soy Milk
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>>121811440
>maximum brain power of filter haters

>>121811335
yes, what's wrong with anti-aliasing?
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>>121811407

Yes. Have fun with your steak.
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>roll into number 2 with the d4
>well okay, I guess I can't take damage anyways so it's not an issue
>bomb drops while I'm charging knifestone
>oh god
Fucking Edmund, who thinks this item is a good idea?
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>>121811549
>haters
ULTIMATE LEVELS OF FAGGOTRY REACHED
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>eden run
>start with book of revelations
>think to self "hey maybe I'll unlock super bandage girl"
>basement I famine
>caves I pestilence
>necropolis I war
>womb I loki
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>>121811549
Man, it was the thing of style in original Isaac. It is a fucking crutch in afterbirth, like retropill, but the opposite direction.
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>>121811649
Stop replying to his baits.
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>>121811742
Isn't super bandage girl extremely easy now with lilith/box of friends?
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>>121811781
>like retropill, but the opposite direction.
so it makes the game look better instead of worse? :^)
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>speed challenge, get toxic shock on first floor
>fuckign famine in a tiny room for the boss

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>accidentally picked up broken remote
There's a button to drop trinkets right?
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>>121811649

>Posting the "xD monkey cheese" character
>Calling anyone else a faggot
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>>121812036
Hold ctrl by default.
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>>121811965
No, it is still stinking dirty shit, but with negative color.
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>>121812036
Hold CTRL
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>>121811906
yeah but I haven't unlocked lilith yet

I'm waiting for eggmund mcmuffin to fix azazel

>>121812036
hold right trigger on a controller (dunno the keyboard equivalent, it's the same button you use to switch cards with starter deck)
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>>121812093
>>121812108
>>121812129
Not him, but good to know. Thanks.
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WHAT THE FUCK
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>Egg's Blue Bomber video
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tfw you forget to drop the left hand
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>1st floor XL
>Lemon Mishap + Quad shot
>all pills are good
>devil deal contains Brim and 2 pieces of cat
>second floor gives me dead cat from key beggar chest
>see this in item room

Am i finally allowed to have fun?
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>mfw Mega Satan was easier than The Lamb for Lilith

This final boss is fucking shitty. Ultra Ass and Hush might be annoying with their scaling HP, but Mega Satan is retardedly easy
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stop shitposting
http://strawpoll.me/5963599
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>>121812273
Wait till you get The Haunt who has a brimstone with a rubber cement effect
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>>121812605
*double brimstone
FTFY
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I fucking love it!!!
fucking save me
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http://bindingofisaac.com/post/132875425114/the-good-the-bad-and-the-daily

>Unfair challenges getting fixed
>Azazel's damage will be going back to normal
>Bugged achievements will be fixed next patch
>A few of Ultra Greed's buffs will be rolled back

based steakmund
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>>121812748
oh yeah you're right
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>>121812975
That's just to cover up for the missing content they're adding atm
Reddit is going to be all awe "EDMUND LISTENED TO US! GLORY TO MCMILLEN" and disregard the fact that they shipped an unfinished DLC.
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>>121813034
Wait is that in the fucking game? Why? He's already a big enough dicksucker. Speaking of bullshit bosses
>greed mode
>boss on basement floor
>it's gurglings
>absolutely no damage
>next boss is Haunt
Or vice versa. Those little haunts take way too long to kill without damage or bombs. Might as well just restart
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>>121812396

Time to add a guarantee that at least 3/4 of any spawned pills on any given floor will be bad.
>>
So if Hush is based off of your damage, does that mean soy milk is good against him?
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>>121813268
>is that in the fucking game? Why?
Yes, and because it's much easier to dodge.
His alt spit is a Monstro-style burst.
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>>121812396
Anon if you lose this I fucking swear.
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>>121813529
It literally would do the same damage if someone had knife+brimstone. So yes.
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>>121813529
No, because you won't be able to easily kill those fucking flies and gapers.
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>>121813785
Gapers had 9 health before and now edmund buffed them to 30. Simply eric.
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>>121813785
>>121813749
So the only solution for the Lost is to get gnawed leaf and dry baby
i see the steak now
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>>121807029
>forget me now should be a pill
these are the kind of people who think IV bag shouldn't have been taken out of greed mode.
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>>121814046
Just spam Alt+F4 senpai.
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>>121814060

IV bag being taken out of greed mode is retarded because you have to sit there for 30 minutes autistically grinding pennies depending on what else you have. If someone wants to do that, fucking let them. It's a single player game.
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>>121814046
Im tearing my ass off trying to kill him without any orbitals and mediocre as fuck tears with no piercing. I think I've wasted 6 hours trying. But I dont want to give up.
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>>121813205
>>121812975
Don't fall for his shit, he's been timegating, encouraging shit, etc. this entire time and now has finally fixed everything now that he's enjoyed his steak.

I trust him as much as I trust the Lost to cook a medium-rare steak.
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>>121814218
>you'll never be eaten alive by butterflies while a pregnant Lilith fuck your boypussy and you both give birth to a Lil' Brimstone
why live
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>>121814089
i am but I need to angel room so i can kill 2 birds one stone
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>>121812975

Yeah, he totally couldn't have posted this right off the bat.
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>bumbo's last form drops lit bombs in combat
>including giant troll bombs
that's the last fucking time i pick that up
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>>121814451
>tfw my last Lilith run I got Immaculate Conception from the Shop
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>>121814660

>Gets pregnant whenever she takes damage
>Gets even more pregnant whenever she picks up a heart to heal

Lilith can't get a fucking break
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>>121814465
Well of course not, we had to look to la luna first to solve the ARG that was totally there
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>>121814807
chub dislikes smoke
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>>121814778
I wonder how embarrassing it is for a demon to give birth to a Guardian Angel

Maggy really needs Immaculate as a starting item
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>more bombs
thanks
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>>121814643
>box of friends makes a level 1 bumbo regardless
USELESS
S
E
L
E
S
S
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>>121814643
You can exit and reenter to level him down senpai
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>>121812345
wtf how
has he sold his soul to satan for immense luck?
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YOU CAN'T STEAK THIS, FATMUND
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>>121815483
>There are so little Angel Room items you practically got all the good ones in one Reroll

Fucking hell
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>>121815483
>afterbirth patch 3
>angel rooms nerfed, no longer have item pedestals
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>>121815483
>I accidentaly entered sheol instead of cathedral
>I had the polaroid
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Is there any item that references NL?
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>>121815483
I hope they never patch that.
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>>121815945
Edmund said he'll never make references to Let's Players or streamers

The closest you can get is when a Fortune Teller says
>Rebirth is cancelled
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>>121815945
no, edmund said that he didn't want to add references to popular streamers/youtubers
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The mummy spider cunt is the most annoying possible level 1 boss.
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>>121816281
the regular variation isn't that bad the (black?) challenge version is a fucking cunt for spawning a billion large spiders.
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>>121804273
>making a new thread before the old one is at bump limit
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>121816281
small room haunt with tnt
I haven't had any problems with him I don't know why you plebs think he's so bad
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I'm getting enjoyment out of other people suffering on speed challenge knowing I never have to do it again.
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sorry to blog this shit but I need to share
>start an isaac run to try and beat megasatan
>pass on first devil deal
>next 2 'devil' rooms are also devil deals (fuck you angel rooms)
>get all the way to the chest with no key but pretty good damage
>clear the entire chest rerolling any items I find
>last possible reroll I get Dad's Key

and that's how I beat mega satan. The RNG gods showed me pity and I thank them for it.
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>>121815829
WELL, I GOT THE RUNE THAT GIVES YOU TRAP DOORS SO I GOT TO THE DARK ROOM.
THAT'S FUCKING LUCKY, ISN'T IT?
Now, should I?
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what's the fucking point
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Does red/aggro fire have a higher chance of dropping stuff?
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>>121816784
EAT IT
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>>121816784
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>>121804593
>tfw you cruised from cellar 2 to flooded caves 2 tense as fuck because you were on 1 half black heart
>tfw made it after all
>tfw top 1000

GG EZ
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>>121816751
Do it, live a little
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>>121816602
it's really not that hard


if you hold r until you get the knife
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>>121816840
I don't believe so.

>>121816602
I know this feel. Finishing a tough isaac challenge is so satisfying. I beat SPEED! yesterday, my hands were shaking after I won. Feels so great to never have to deal with that bullshit again in b4 edmund nerfs that shit this week. hopefully he fixes brains since that's the last challenge i need
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>>121816784
Slow down, bro. You don't want to eat that steak too quickly,
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>>121816931
Goddamn you
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>>121816951
I really didn't like the knife for that challenge. Too risky against enemies with projectiles.

Ipecac carried my ass so hard though. I just skipped most rooms.
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>>121816971
What are the chances he makes beans! less terrible?
:(
only fucking challenge I need
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>>121817291
probably zero considering it's been around since rebirth and plenty of people have beaten it.
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>>121817058
So how did that excellent build work out, anon
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>>121817465
>it's been around
>not it's bean around
how could you miss that
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>>121808558
sackhead isn't really OP, sure you get more items but most of them aren't that useful. A bunch of keys and bombs doesn't usually spell out a win. Depending on your pill and card luck those may or may not help either.

It's a good item sure but it's not any stronger than humble bundle or stuff like that.
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Outplayed.
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>>121804273
Mother fucker
I re-imported my save file, lost Afterbirth progress (150-200 donated in greed), Greed beaten with all character except for Lost and Lilith. Do an Isaac greed run, win, donate, go back to character selection screen, nothing there. The launch of this fucking game. From now on I will not be playing it until it's entirely fixed, fucking bullshit
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>>121812975
>Unfair challenges getting fixed
And that's why so many people have completed them all. Quit bitching that you lose something that's supposed to be difficult.
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Is the Speed! challenge even possible
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>>121817868
I can only imagine he's talking about guardian. Not that it's impossible, I beat it after a half dozen tries but it's undeniably broken shit.

I wouldn't be surprised if he increased the time limit to SPEED! as well.

All of the challenges are currently beatable but some are so heavy RNG reliant I can see why they would get some tweaking.

Personally I don't care I only have Brains left and despite being a huge piece of shit to beat it's doable.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izHxUkF4ZAQ
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>>121817910
Only if you're lucky.
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>>121816373
What the shit are you talking about man, Rag Man has no champion versions yet.
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>>121817910
Sometimes it is legitimately not
Just reset for an hour until you get something good like everyone else
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>>121817910
It yeah but it requires a shit ton of luck and one of the god-tier broken starting items.
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>>121818070
This ost pumped me up so much in original. Rebirth's versions are inferior.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhMj9tMtRs8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4noeZx9W6s
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>>121818109
oh i thought he was talking about widow for whatever reason.
>>
>id also personally like to thank the fans out there who think logically and dont instantly grab their pitchforks when confusion arises, your voice of reason honestly helps a lot more than youd think.

>to the rest, keep in mind that i actually like this game even more than you do ;) if something feels wrong.. i know it feels wrong and i fix it, it just takes a bit loner to find and fix these days due to the fact i have a baby and this game is a monster of chaos and tuning it can be a really delicate dance.

>i harbor no ill will towards anyone.. especially fans of my work who put food on my table, so seriously if something seems fishy, take a step back and put my intentions into the equation and take off the tin foil hat before doing that math.

He just doesn't get why people think he's fucking retard.
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>>121818258
I miss good OSTs like original BoI, SMB and VVVVVV's
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>collect Mind, Body, and Soul in the same run
>no transformation
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>>121818274
Edmund "someone think of the children" Mcmillen.
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FUCK
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>>121818258
Shame what happen to the guy.
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>>121818274
>first letter of each paragraph of the post reads "ur so close"
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>>121817841
i guess you are...
screwed
:^)
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>>121818724
God is off limits man.
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>>121817841
Has Ed commented on this shit?
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>>121818724
not surprising. the likelihood of getting them all is so low. Most transformations have 4+ parts to them obtainable through various methods.
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>>121818786
he got in a fight with edmund mcmuffin
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>>121818274
Why does he write like a 14-year-old bimbo?
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>>121818786
They had a falling out

http://edmundm.com/post/72165508843/how-come-youre-not-going-with-danny-baranowsky-as

http://edmundm.com/post/88615744465/will-you-be-working-with-danny-b-again-in-the-future-i

http://edmundm.com/post/75506466832/im-curious-why-youre-distant-with-danny-now-just

http://edmundm.com/post/75495381915/hey-edmund-i-have-a-some-random-questions-1-will
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>>121818674
You should probably look up undertale ost. Its pretty awesome.
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>>121818985
>Danny is a veganfag and the steak analogy triggered him far more than he could take
>>
Unicorn stump is kinda insane.
That fucking sweet 1 room reload.
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>>121819057
>>121818985
I was talking about the whole SJW thing.
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>>121818258
Gotta love how mods can change the music back to the original. I wish there was a way to get Danny Baranowsky to make music for the new Afterbirth stuff.
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Any tips for Blue Bomber? What items should I take/not take?
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>>121818946
I'm sorry, can you repeat that?
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>>121819136
wew lad the soundtrack is sold for as expensive as the game is

ima check it out tho
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>>121819240
You can't fire tears so it doesn't really matter what you pick up. You should mostly look for more bombs and maybe bomb upgrades.
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>>121819289
It's pretty much the only worthwhile thing about the game so it's not that unreasonable.
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>>121819359
Blue bomber is one of the easiest new challenge imo.
Just get all the bomb upgrades you can get, especially the sad bombs.
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>>121819239
I already did change most of rebirth tracks to original, rebirths womb. sheol, depths tracks are fucking shit.
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>>121819240
Try to get a lot of bombs because motherfucking Satan is immune to kamikaze explosions
>>
I SWEAR TO GOD IF I GET ONE MORE FUCKING SHITTY ASS PILL EFFECT WITH PHD ON

WHY EDMUND YOU FAT FUCK WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CONSIDER THESE FUCKING "GOOD"

NO I DON'T CONSIDER NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE SHIT OR HIT SHIT TO BE FUCKING "GOOD"

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>
>odd mushroom (thin) reduces your damage
Why
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>>121819240
Lazarus's rags is probably the best possible pickup. Having red hearts with kamikaze makes you unkillable
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>>121819673
PHD is good or neutral effects. You're right though, retrovision shouldn't even be considered neutral.
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>>121819487
You're so wrong, but hey thats your opinion. I consider this game goty.
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>>121819732
>+1.7 tears up

it's literally good soy milk
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>>121819239
>the other mod that adds remixes
>that burning basement remix

so good
>>
has anyone seen the item "the censer"?

it's the only one left for my collection page

i've been going to a shit ton of angel rooms
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>You will never have the angel laser as an item

It'd essentially just be a holy brimstone with the bonus of killed enemies leaving fires.

COME ON EDMUND. BUFF ANGEL SHIT.
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>>121820052
fuck burning basement
fuck rooms full of fire + burning hopping fucknuggets
>>
Spoonbender+Doctor Fetus run, I don't think I rerolled any of the item rooms to give me either of them.

Seed attached if any interested, very fun so far.
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>>121820318

But it has the best track of all the new ones. A decent trade off.
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finally got the key after a lucky rosary bead drop
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>>121820440
I like this one a lot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q38huYCPLlo
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>>121820423

Does Spoon Bender work with Dead Eye?
>>
The low heart drop rate in womb+onwards is really annoying me.
I now understand why you people say heart containers aren't that important.
>>
>ur so close
WE'RE SO CLOSE TO THE NEXT TIME GATE ENDING

YES!
>>
edmund's a nigger
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>>121820616

It's certainly better than several sucking and gurgling noises
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>>121820634
Evil Eye? Yeah I think so. Haven't had the two together yet to try it out.
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>>121820634
Why wouldn't it?
>>
>Going for a Hush kill
>Kill Mom's Heart at 25 minutes
>"Well, I have the Bible, maybe I can still make it"
>First floor of the womb
>2 giant rooms full of faggot teleporting enemies, take 2 minutes to clear each

I was just lying to myself.
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>>121820938
No, nigger, Deadeye.

>>121820634
Yes.
Spoon Bender is pretty useless, though, because I find any near misses just swing way past the enemy.
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>>121821006

There's a ton of shit you'd think would be an obvious synergy but doesn't work.

Marked+Brimstone doesn't fire a constant brimstone even though you think it would.
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HEY
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>>121815036

No, anon, Maggy is already too powerful and fun to use.
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>>121821008
R N G
N
G
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>>121820315
so you want another fork to chow down that steak with?
how about a nice, BALANCED angel room with 6 pennies
and maybe a dead sea scrolls, MAYBE.
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>>121821028
>useless
not with brimstone
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>>121821143
>moving like a slug
>spacebar item that let's you once go into the cursed room on 1st floor for free
>too powerful
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>>121817465

So has Azazel, but he got shitcanned anyway. Bugged or not.

The only vanilla challenges I never did were Purist and Suicide King.
>>
>the mega fatty champion with rock spike slam that takes a solid minute to kill due to health alone
Solid design, nice work. Really fun.

>>121821008
>it only takes damage when it attacks
>tfw plenty of shit enemies in the game use this concept
>tfw several bosses use this concept
>tfw the game is still timed

>>121821373
>not doing purist for one of the best items in the game
What a casual.
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>>121821131
AYE
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>>121819359
>>121819637
>>121819793
Thanks lads
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>>121821174
>dead sea scrolls
How do we fix this item?
>>
what is this steak meme I keep seeing here
>>
>>121821780
Take out the Kamikaze effect

Done
>>
>>121821648
>berkano
>good

Not unlocking berkano is objectively better so that you have a better rune pool.
>>
>>121821815
it refers to the quote of edmund when they datmined the lost he said that he is sad and it's like eating a 100$ steak in one bite
i think
>>
* Menu - Sacrificial
* Chapter 1 - Fundamentum
* Chapter 2 - Kave Diluvii
* Chapter 3 - Latter Days
* Chapter 4 - Cicatrix
* Cathedral - Everlasting Hymn
* Sheol - A Mourner Into Sheol

Nothing else matters. Remove any alternate songs, because these are the best for their respective areas.
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>>121821780
Charge time goes up by one, can only have angel room item effects.
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I had everything. EVERYTHING! But then...
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>>121822092
I rerolled and turned into this!
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>>121821131

This sound effect was one of the first things I missed upon playing Rebirth honestly.
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Just to confirm, if I use the Credit Card then I can still access Angel Rooms?
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>>121821914
2 of the new challenges just unlock more pills

Couldn't think of 2 items could you nicalis
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>>121821648

>Getting to Hush has a time limit
>Basically impossible to hit without good damage ups
>Damage ups are useless against Hush

Good Game Good Times Good Stuff Well Done Ed Boy

This time limit shit is abysmal. There needs to be different requirements for Hush. Boss Rush I don't really care about.
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>>121822452
Yes. Angel rooms are only removed if you pay hearts for a devil room item.
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>>121821939
tyrone said it, not edmund
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>>121821914
Oh right, I forgot they changed that from the original.

>>121822484
It's not that hard to hit, it's just based on luck.
Like most of the new content.
Edmund couldn't tell it was broken because he thought people were just being unlucky.
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Is it worth it?
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>>121822458

Only 1 of them is any good
1 is situational
2 are actively detrimental, and you have to unlock them

I'm just not even going to bother with those challenges.
>>
>>121821939
Yeah, and the other dude had a conniption about dataminers "[having] to have it all" and then edmund added that it would've taken a year to find the lost legitimately.
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>>121822796
>A Key for a item with high potential and stupid combos.
Gee I dunno boss.
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>>121822727
oh sorry
but is at least my assumption right?
>>
>>121822796
No, tech 1 & 2 are fucking horrible.
>>
>>121822912
No, I meant if I should take it with my build.
>>
>>121822920
yeah, it was relating to the lost getting datamined
>>
>>121822796
Well you got damage and with Ludo you get piercing aswell (assuming that you don't have it yet) Go for it.
>>
>>121804273
Let's talk about The Keeper and Limbo.

Any ideas how to access?
>>
I like Greed Mode except the end boss is boring as shit. Hush is boring too, once to stand in one of the safe spots you can shoot him for 10 minutes straight during the continuum phase.

If I wasn't a dumbass I would mod this game to make it better.
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>>121823293
Yes.

Wait until Edmund lets you.
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>Doing Onan's Streak challenge
>Get Death's Touch first floor so I have an easy time instantly
>Get Chaos Card and go to the Hush for the hell of it
At least this card won't get nerfed. I hope.
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>>121823293
WOAH WOAH WOAH NOW
CHEW YOUR STEAK
>>
>>121823527
But I want to eat my potatoes.
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>>121823607
go play smash bros and enjoy your free dessert.
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>>121823607
>>
>Emperor card
>another Emperor card
When would you ever use these?
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How does /boig/ like his steak?
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>>121823293
One of the money items has 'where are you' written on it in the game where you can see what items you have found so far.

Hush looks like a tinted rock.

There are things under tinted rocks.

There is a face under Hush after you beat him.

What does it mean?
>>
>>121823757
Starter Deck.
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>>121823293
wait, limbo? I missed something
>>
>>121823757
Womb, Cathedral, Chest, Sheol, Dark Room
Only levels where there's barely any point in exploring.
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>>121823502
>piercing
>onan's streak
>easy time
What?

>>121823757
Sheol/Dark Room/Cathedral/Chest, to skip all the 4 Cage skinny room fights.
>>
>>121823757
Sheol/Cathedral/Dark Room/Escape boss rush/Escape any room that you just generally don't want to be in/Get to the boss immediately so that you can get a devil deal without worrying about taking damage along the way.
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>>121816602
>get lil brimstone
>orbital knife from devil deal
>rock basic damage with coal to Womb II
>win with 5 minutes left
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>>121823757
>teleporting out of a challenge room after grabbing the goodies
>Skipping an entire floor of the womb/sheol/cathedral
>trying to get boss rush/hush time limit
>SPEED!
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>>121823502
That's not how onan's streak works buddy. Shots hurt you based on where they end, not if they hit enemies, so death's touch is actually suicide. Unless they patched this.
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>Eden can now start with two active items
Thanks edmund.
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I skipped a few days, how's Azazel?
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>>121824086
>mom's lipstick
>active
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>>121823850
As long as you hit a enemy (or turd & flame) before the tear disappears you won't get hurt.
>>121823994
It must have been patched then since I didn't have that issue just now while doing it.
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>>121824086
Mom's Lipstick is passive you shitter.
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>>121824124
Still bad.
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>>121824248
>>121824154
I was just pretending to be retarded!

I thought it was the unicorn horn, it didn't display on edens face until I got another item.
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>>121823994
>>121823850
Actually for some reason scythes don't hurt you on onan's streak if they hit the ground. So yeah, good game.
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Which one, /boig/?
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OH MY GOD I HATE PLAYING AS THE BLUE BABY
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>>121824592

Top row
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>>121824592
top one imo, or you could always pick one and if you don't like it use the altf4 exploit to pick the other one
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>>121824592
Bottom.
>>121824597
Press R for Book of Revelations.
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>>121824427
>nothing about hush or its flies

Yeah alright buddy.
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>>121824592
neither
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>>121824641
Goddamn
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>>121824697
just move out of the way
like damn
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>>121823846
>>121823850
>Skipping the chest level at all
It's like you don't want free items.
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>>121824871
If you don't have guppy's tail or absurd luck there's no point in slogging through the floor

Just open the 4 starting chests and emperor
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>>121824824
30 flies and 20 gapers are closing in on me, they all have a lot of health, no piercing shots and who knows what bullet pattern you get.
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>>121824871
If you can beat Isaac you can beat Blue Baby. Ergo you don't need any more items.
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>>121824765

Maybe you'll find some great Retro Vision pills and you can become a real retro gamer whenever you want.
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>>121824871
After you get the first four there's no real point. If you're not doing fucktons of damage you're probably not going to get good enough items to compensate for the damage/time that you'll spend doing it, and if you do have fucktons of damage you don't need the items you'll pick it.
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>>121824962
sounds like you should be skipping the blue womb
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>>121825259
Not really if I'm doing this with the lost for the item. Its pretty easy having hearts and being able to hit once or twice. I got him to 20% that was the best progress I've gotten.
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>>121824765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMmMuQcRooI
>he doesn't like placebo

it's like you don't actually like breaking the game
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>>121823365
Thank you SteakMan.
>>121823527
I have no teeth and I must eat SteakMan
>>121823802
I knew it! Mozart is still alive!
>>121823842
Limbo is a new floor in comparison to Sheol/Cathedral. Its access is currently unknown however I'd assume you'd reach it by defeating Hush and proceeding onward.

No idea if an alternate Chest would appear afterward or if there is a Mega version of a Boss within that level.

I expect a final boss of sorts, but have no idea who it would be.

Mega Isaac?
Mega Mom?
Dad?
The Found?
Jesus?
God?
Guppy?

Also I can smell something in the air. Something about alternate Sins, perhaps it would be the 7 opposites of...but I suppose I'm just swallowing theoretical quantum steaks at this point.
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>>121825809
>have to beat Hush with all those characters again
I'd rather lose three toes.
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>>121825809
In the cinematic you get for beating Hush the place looks weird. Is that Limbo?
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>>121825972
Its like you don't like having your balls forced into a vice!

>>121825990
Assumingly, while some of the other breakers found an unfinished chapter with white walls, missing textures and the like. This is how we know of "The Keeper" and for right now "Limbo" is just a placeholder since the new floor technicially doesn't exist fully.
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>>121819030
he's dyslexic
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What does this little nigga do? Is he just a coin eating Brother Bobby?
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>>121827060
he gets bigger when you feed him.
Eventually he's like a bum friend+level 4 meat boy

In his final form he even drops active bombs on enemies
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>>121824427
He's fixing this shit because x amount of people donated 999 coins to the greed machine.
He will add the keeper and remaining items, then he will say it was another 'major bug'.
The Vicious Circle of Steakmund
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>>121827060
meat boy + brother bobby + bum friend
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>>121827172
That's pretty cool thanks
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The Guardian is bullshit
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>>121824871
I'm guessing the only time you ever get to the chest is when you have good items or lots of health. I only ever go to the chest if my build isn't that good or I'm going to fight mega satan, in the former's case I love to have an emperor card so that I don't end up losing to bullshit rng rooms or getting whittled down trying to find the boss room
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>tfw no damage ups
God damn I even had the key to get to Mega Satan.
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Is there any way for me to get the blue rock or any of the chests?
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>>121827508
If you were doing hush, it would've been the same damage anyway :)
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>>121827797
multiple bombs
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>>121827797
bombs
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>>121827832
I wasn't, I was trying to get Maggie's Hard Mode Mega Satan done. I love getting no damage ups and the chest giving no items except the starting four.
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>>121826883
Oh ok, I didn't know that.
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>>121827983
>>121827932
>Cropped out my items
I have 2 bombs, I don't think it's possible but I thought I'd ask.
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AZAZEL + RUBBER CEMENT
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>>121828137
You need four in total. Three for the tinted rock.
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>>121828003
>maggy
>no damage ups
i feel so bad for you anon
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>>121827262
get good
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>>121828252

Nah I saw that room once and I got to the chests with 3.
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>>121828280
I've given up going for her Mega Satan properly, I'm just going to restart until Death's Touch or some shit.
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>>121828252
four? wtf

1. bottom center to blow up the 2 rocks below the spider web
2. on the spider web to access the other side
3. spider web below the tinted rock to access the chest
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>>121828287
Nah I will just cheat in blood rites
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>>121828505
>Death's Touch
Too bad it was nerfed.
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>>121828441
How? You definitely need two to get to the tinted rock and because of the metal blocks you shouldn't be able to reach the chests with just another one.
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>>121827797
try this
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>>121828649
What has been changed?
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>in the shop as lilith
>push the devil deal wave button
>game crashed

GOOD STEAK
O
O
D

S
T
E
A
K
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>>121828736
won't work

bombs work like this:
ooxoo
oxxxo
xxBxx
oxxxo
ooxoo
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>>121828003
Don't worry, I bet edmund will implement damage scaling mechanic on all end bosses soon. Its gonna be great!
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>>121828736
That looks like it'd work if I hugged the corner, but I already left the room

Seed KL9R 62PY if anyone wants to try.
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>>121828841
>Rag Man, Little Horn, Monstro 2, Gurdy, Carrion Queen, Mask of Infamy, Mega Fatty and Cage being even bulkier than they already are
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whats this?
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>>121828651

I was surprised when the 3rd bomb got all the way through after the 1st one didnt get me into the middle, but it did it.
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>>121819240
it's an easy ass challenge. Remember that you can bomb doors. Just get bombs for satan. Should only take you one or two tries.
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Oh! Hush's flies are fucking invincible when he spawns them, that's absolutely fantastic.
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Speed challenge a shit
A SHIT
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FIRST BASEMENT LIBRARY BOOK OF REVELATIONS
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Alright, I know you can push the red barrels around, but where the fuck do I sit in here

>>121829068
3 dollar bill.

Random tear effects.

The machine is a reroll machine, pay money or bomb it to reroll
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>>121823802
it means Edmund wants to use the shovel to dig in a bunch of random spots while he finishes making the content
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>>121829068
Reroll machine. You can either put some cash in it to make it reroll the 3 Dollar Bill into something else, or blow it up with a Bomb.
It has infinite uses, so go wild considering you have all those bombs.
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>>121829102
Oh well whatever, guess the metal blocks I come along felt like making my life miserable.
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>>121829178
go above the leftmost barrel of the lower row, then shoot the one right above you and run for your life when the chain of explosions start
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>>121829068
fun
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>>121829068
three dollar bill or the item change machine?

put coins in it or bomb it to change the items on the pedestals.
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>blank card diamond in the shop first floor
>time to get OP
>defeat ultra greed
>machine jams at 5 coints

thanks
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>>121829134
that explains why they take so fucking long to kill. What the actual fuck?

>>121829135
yes it's horrible

>>121829161
easy challenge with lilith now

>>121829334
how's that steak?
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>>121829334
>1%
TELL ME LIES
TELL ME SWEET LITTLE LIES
I'm referring to the 1% being bullshit, obviously.
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>>121829334
come back tomorrow for the next 1% of your steak!
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>>121828923
Yeah, I just tried my strategy and it doesn't look like you'll be able to get there within 2 bombs.
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>>121829202
>infinite
at least it was an odd mushroom
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>>121829523
don't place the bombs here

see >>121828615
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>>121828773
seems like the shot speed and fire rate were lowered

thing moves like molasses now and fires slower than your regular tears.
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>>121829503
>>121829415
I dont know steak meme sorry
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>>121829726
edmund said that paying customers complaining that they couldn't access the content they paid for were eating a $100 steak in one chew
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>>121829726
Someone asked ed on twitter "where are the rest of items promised on steam" and he replied "you wouldn't eat 100 dollar steak with one bite, would you?" And other tweet about greed machine locking up at 109 he replied "Slow down my friend :)"
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>>121829657
He only has 2 bombs though.
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>>121829831
If I paid for a 100 dollar steak I'd expect to eat it anyway I'd want
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>>121829415
I was Azazel
I was planning to go for Mega Stan, RIP. Atleast I got Bandage Girl Achiev
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>>121829831
it's even worse, he called people who complained butt tards

here's a nice summary
https://www.reddit.com/r/bindingofisaac/comments/3s5dlm/the_good_the_bad_and_the_daily_edmund_blog_post/cwubtuw
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>>121829831
100 dollar steak maymay was when rebirth came out and people datamined the game to find out the unlock requirements for the lost instead of piecing together a fucktillion-piece puzzle. Eddie Spaghetti then said on some vinesauce stream that it was like eating a $100 steak in 1 bite.
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>>121829608
Shit, it can explode?
Guess I've never had to abuse it enough for it to do that.
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>>121824427
first letter of each paragraph spells out 'ur so close'
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FUCK
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>>121830014
it was tyrone who said it, not edmund
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>>121829997
"Totally not mad about dataminers or anything!" Even if that's true, that means even worse that he didn't finish the expansion and decided to push it away in early access without saying a thing, people buy it expect full content but they get half of it and rest is added by patches because he needs to finish it first. Unbelievable.
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>>121830136
exit and continue
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>Lilith run
>Going for Isaac and ??? to complete her post it
>Get The Soul first treasure room of Cellar
What does this do again? Literally unlocked it three days ago
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>>121830124
W-what!?
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>>121830243
http://platinumgod.co.uk
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Was piggybank patched out of greed mode as well?

>>121830243
It gives you a few soul hearts and it gives you a chance to bounce back enemy bullets.
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>>121830243
Gives Soul Hearts and a passive effect that causes enemy projectiles (doesn't affect lasers) to be pushed away from you.
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>>121830162
But you still get it all so what's the problem other than 'it should have been done by release'?
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>>121830360
>>121830372
>>121830432
Thanks. So it's like the Circle of Protection thing, except Circle of Protection actually does damage over time on top of that.

Piggybank was still there, last I checked.
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>>121830162

Hahahahaha, do you think that's the worst part?

The patch was already done before release, and he held it back because he thought it would be funny.
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>>121830136
it doesn't hurt
had the same problem once
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>>121830469
Lying. He knows it well and tries to avoid saying the truth by "oh guys its an arg you should solve it to get the rest of the content :)" If he'd admit that he didnt finish the expansion to deadline and released it anyway. I would respect it. I can't respect lies.

>>121830542
Absolutely "hilarious". Great ARG there.
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>>121830136
visual bug, you wont get hurt
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>>121830469
1. It should have been done by release
2. When people confronted him about it, he lied his ass off and pretended the content was there rather than admitting he had sold an unfinished game
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>>121804638
Better than the champion variants.
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>>121830497
Just wait until next patch. Sack of Pennies, Mystery Sack, Fanny Pack, Piggy Bank, Bloody Penny, Counterfeit Penny, Sack Head/Sacks and basically anything else that generates Money wont show up in Greed Mode anymore.
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>>121830990
Good thing I got Greed Mode done with the Lost, Lilith, and Azazel already.
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>Unlocked Blank Rune!

But I already had it on my runs? Am I missing something?
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>>121830542
>getting buttmad about a few minutes

who cares
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>>121830542
>a few minutes earlier
means a few minutes before they released the patch, your reading comprehension is ass
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>>121831112
>109 hours are "a few minutes"
wut
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>>121831086
Saw the same thing. I found the blank rune several times before unlocking it, guessing just another bug.
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>>121831229
read the post again
>patch was done a little before 109
>waited until 109 to troll buttmad fanboys

it wasn't ready 109 hours before the update.
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>>121830542
>The patch was already done before release
He meant it was done a bit before 109 hours after release.

>>121831086
A lot of the challenge unlocks seem bugged.
I found Kidney Stone in a boss rush without completing Onan's Streak.
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>>121831210

When's the next content stagger, edmund
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>>121831384
read the post again
>patch was ready to be released
>eggmund mcbutthurt decided to delay it because he thought it would be funny
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>>121831384
Yeah sorry I forgot how to read overnight.
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>retro vision

Just fuck my run up b
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>>121831589
yeah for like an hour or two, which is exactly what I said. Again it's not even a big deal.
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>>121830542
>>121831589
are you implying that they had a fucking patch for a bug that didn't exist yet? You're fucking retarded.

>>121831704
it wears off after a while of flickering on and off
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>>121831827
Thank god
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>>121831827
>a bug that didn't exist yet?
wat

the bug always existed
>>
Reminder to not even bother doing Judas because you can easily exploit his shadow.
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>>121831827

If the bug didn't exist, what's the patch for?
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>>121831935
okay, so you're actually retarded. Thanks for letting me know. Now would you kindly go back to >>>/b/
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>>121832183
how can the bug not exist? you're the retard here, buddy
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>>121831594
And apparently many other people here did as well.
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>>121832183

Wow Kekmond McKekin you really are braindead.
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>>121832182
>>121832285
he said that they had the patch ready before the game was even released. Before the game was released, there was no bug, so how would there be a patch for a bug that didn't exist?
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No thanks m8
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>>121832332
>R
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>>121832330
>he said that they had the patch ready before the game was even released

he absolutely did not say this. Go read it again.
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>>121832332
R
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>>121830542
the worst part is that even with the patch, the content is sorely lacking in both quality and quantity
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>>121832183
>>121832298

Kuckmond "THE VOICES OF REASON" McShillen please leave. Nobody believes your lies.

>>121832330
>The game code just materialized out of thin air when the release date hit

How dumb can a nigga be
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>>121832426
>the worst part is that even with the patch, the content is sorely lacking
could have just stopped here
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>>121832415
>The patch was already done before release, and he held it back because he thought it would be funny.
>The patch was already done before release
>before release

>>121832309
super glad that cancer has infested this board even more than it already has.
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>>121832445
The point he's trying and failing to make is that edmundo didn't know the bug existed until release.
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>>121832616

Ever heard of a day 1 patch before you fat kuck?

How's that industry cock taste you apologist
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>>121832616
before release of the patch, not the game, cuntface
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>>121832616
BEFORE THE RELEASE OF THE PATCH. NOT THE FUCKING GAME. HOLY SHIT JUST GO AND READ THE FUCKING TWEET IT IS NOT EVEN AMBIGUOUS
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>>121832753
>>121832771

Edmond Defense Force keks out in droves to shill their lord and savior
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>>121832730
ever heard of a bug being hard to fix and taking a few days? I'm not defending edmund or anything, just calling the other anon out on being a dumbfuck.

>>121832753
>>121832771
as opposed to a patch being made after it's released?
God damn you niggers are stupid, if that's what he meant then there would've been no reason to even say it

>>121832771
>READ THE FUCKING TWEET IT IS NOT EVEN AMBIGUOUS
thanks for restating my point
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These are the last items I need to complete the list, what's the best/quickest way to find them?
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>>121832983

rng
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>>121832983
Sharp plug + wafer + D6/Blank card and god rooms.

Good luck.
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>>121832973
Is english not your native language or are you just dumb
>guys calls edmund out for releasing the patch at 109 hours
>edmund says it was ready a little bit before 109 hours (so lets say 107-108 hours)
>he holds off an hour or two to release on 109 because he thought it would be funny

at no point does he ever imply that the patch was ready prior to release of the game. Honestly what the fuck is wrong with your brain?

PS go find a dictionary and look up the term ambiguous before trying to act smug.
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>>121832983
Key Piece farming with Isaac.
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>>121833156

Yes edmund give me your cummies your cock tastes so good
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>>121832973
okay, so you're actually retarded. Thanks for letting me know. Now would you kindly go back to >>>/b/
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>>121832983
Keep doing eden runs in Greed Mode until you get IV bag.
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>Pretty shit start on Greed mode with Lazarus
>Somehow manage to get by
>Start getting some decent dmg and stuff
>"I might actually have a chance"
>Double Bloat
>mfw

I seriously tried to chew the stake as slow as possible
>>
>>121833117
>>121833189
Got an Afterbirth seed that has Sharp Plug and Wafer in it, both relatively early?

Seeds prevent getting achievs, but not recording items towards Real Platinum God, right?
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>>121833156
>reading everything wrong
I was calling out the anon not the tweet how does that have anything to do with it? Honestly what the fuck is wrong with your brain?
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>>121833369
It does.
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>>121833369
You answered your own question the same same fucking sentence...
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>>121833369
>Seeds prevent getting achievs, but not recording items towards Real Platinum God, right?
RPG is an achievment
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>>121833361
Yeah, fuck Double Bloat. Almost as bad as Double Mega Fatty, or worse: Quadruple Cage!

Atleast Double Stain is doable with the right items. The Nerve Endings on the sides and corners just give the illusion of an enclosed space

>>121833519
>>121833495
>>121833490
I mean, I can record items and maybe MAYBE get RPG as a Steam achiev, but the ingame achiev won't take unless I collect an item on a regular run, so the game checks my items, sees I have them all, then gives me RPG? That's what I was asking.

Or am I looking at it wrong?
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>>121833694
you've got it entirely fucking wrong.
An item doesn't count as found unless you find it on an unseeded run.
>>
>want to balance the game
>doesn't buff horseshit items that don't even have any synergies

Thanks eggmon
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>>121833772
Eat it slowsly so you won't choke on it m8 :^)
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>>121833765
>An item doesn't count as found unless you find it on an unseeded run.
OK, that's what I was wondering, thanks.
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>>121833772
>mfw Edmund had the audacity to make MORE FUCKING BEAN ITEMS
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>>121833772
He outright said that there needs to be shitty items in the game to prevent you from getting a 100% guaranteed won run every single time.
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>>121833156
okay I can see your point now after rereading the posts

>at no point does he ever imply that the patch was ready prior to release of the game.
I didn't think he would actually be a big enough bitch to cry about a patch being delayed a few minutes, so I just assumed he was retarded and thought the patch was ready before release of the game instead.
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>>121834129
this tbqh. It's a rogue-lite, meaning random shit will happen, some good and some bad. So there has to be shitty items to balance out the good.
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>>121834036
>butter bean still doesn't reflect bullets
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>>121833772
That would make them fun. We wouldn't want that, would we?
>>
jesus i'm a huge retard, i am dying more by flying into fires while dodging shit as the lost than actually being hit

about to give up on unlocking anything with him because i'm shit

even got the protection thing that lets you survive 1 hit per room and still couldnt even get to mom's heart. my only chance now is to try to get the leaf on basement 1 and pray for good orbitals etc

it certainly doesnt help that the game refuses to give me a stopwatch in shops, and i wasted 6 hours rerolling items yesterday until i realized the d4 only rerolls items from their respective pools and you cant reroll treasure room items into a stopwatch.

fuck you edmund, the last part of this steak tastes like shit.
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>>121816929
I ended up finishing it with two red hearts, 10 black hearts, mom's knife, and mouth of the void. It was pretty fun!
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>>121834803
Alt + F4
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>>121834129
>Have completly broken item that will guarantee a win unless you're complete shit
>have total shit items that's not even fun that anyone with half a brain will avoid
>call it balance

>>121834237
>It's a rogue-lite, meaning random shit will happen, some good and some bad. So there has to be shitty items to balance out the good.
Sounds more like he's just shit at balancing the game and took the easy way out. Even "bad" items in most roguelikes have proper uses which will make them worth picking up once in a while. While In Issac half the items are total shit not worth touching and the other half so amazing it'll make it all a cakewalk.
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>>121834803
Cheat engine
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So, who is the Lost?

He's not an Isaac personality, as he's apparently the one that convinces Mom to get all stabby on him
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>>121815483

how do you do this glitch anyway
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>>121834937
meaning what, savescumming when i die, or is there a way to reset what shops have with alt+f4?

>>121835019
honestly as much of a whiny baby as i am being i don't feel like using cheat engine

i remember someone talking about there being a bug where you can enter a seed and then do something i don't remember, start a new run as the same character with the same difficulty as the previous run and it keeps the seed, is that possible to do or did edmund fix it?
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>>121835271
Maybe lost thinks if isaac dies, he'll be free from purgatory.
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>>121834237
I see where you're coming from, but there's literally no point in having comptely worthless items that no one ever use in the game, other than making it a bigger item pool and decreasing your chances of getting a good item. At that point they might as well just remove the item and add chance of not getting anything at all, because that's essentially what happens. That's not called balance, that's called being a lazy faggot.
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>>121835271
My theory is that The Lost is Isaac after he dies, and it's him kickstarting the cycle that leads to his death.
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Does Box of Friends clone Holy Water or the milk reskin of it?

I never pick them up, outside of grabbing them for the cheevo, and if I start going out of my way to test it Holy Water or the milk thing will never spawn
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>>121835460
>The Lost is Isaac after he dies
wow did you figure that one out on your own good job
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>tfw i keep running backwards to avoid straight shots
>tfw i keep running into shots that would have missed me if I stood still
>tfw Bonies and Spider Turrets and spiders in general are garunteed hits

How do I gitgud, /boig/?
Are there any tips for not panicking and becoming a self-made bullet magnet?

Or tips on judging how I should move in cramped rooms with swarming enemies?
I keep fucking trapping myself since I don't know how to prioritize what to shoot at.
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>>121835938
Wide circles.
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>Everytime I see NL reroll a good set of items
this isn't even funny, it's just frustrating.
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>>121836062
I do that when herding, it's more in smaller rooms with many enemies.

Unless my luck is good, womb is usually the farthest I get because fuck one heart of damage and low item drops.
You seem to either have to be good at the game or be self suffuciant or lucky by that point, and I play like a bullet sponge.
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>>121835938
>How do I gitgud
invest hundreds of hours into the game, eventually you'll gitgud
probably...
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>>121836392
That blue bomber run was pretty stupid.
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>>121836469
Duck and move.
Tuck and roll.
Avoid and evade.
Pop, lock it, drop it.
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What do I do?
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>>121836507
>getting gud
>in a RNG game
Just press R until you become OP.
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how do i do the angel room glitch
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>>121836798
Demon Baby for precedent. Cat because cat.
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Azazel buff not out yet?
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>>121836798
Pass. Hp is valuable in greed mode, specially with bloody lust. Also Greed scales with your damage so flies wouldn't make much a difference asides from the adds.
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>>121836798
Buy Demon Baby, take 9 lives.

>>121836949
Same way you do the Krampus/Greed one. Pause when the item is spawned, but the door isn't opened.
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>>121835712
Box of Friend will duplicate Milky's fire rate boost.
It really makes it worth picking up.
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>>121837045

didn't know there was a krampus one, thanks
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>>121836807
>hurr you can't be good at an rng game
you should probably consider actually playing the game.
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>>121836392
It's because he's having fun
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>>121837134
Sorry, I thought 550 hours was enough already.
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>>121832056
The fucking thing never shows up for me

Plus I find Judas+Book to be fun for bosses. The rest of the floor tends to melt anyway cause he has the best attack in the game bar Eve the Whore
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>>121837314
>bar eve the whore
Try Cain. Eve's only good at 1/0HP, whereas Cain has the second highest multiplier in the game.
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>>121837416
All of your characters should be at 1 or less HP anyway unless you're trying to find a stupid angel room that won't appear thanks Edmund.
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>>121837239
550 hours of pressing R until you get op items? If so that's fucking boring. Not to brag but I for one have won plenty of runs with shit items. There is skill involved, sorry if you can't beat famine without getting polyphemus in the item room.
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>>121836949
>>121837045
Excuse the ignorance but I don't usually look up Isaac stuff or lurk in this thread much. What glitch is this and what does it do exactly?
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>>121837416
The fuck? Did you completely misinterpret what I said?

Since Azazel's nerf, Belial Judas and Eve the Whore (as in when she has Whore of Babylon active) are the hardest-hitting characters. Samson too depending on the situation

Cain's small-time. People only play as him now because he's Free Gold Chest Simulator
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>>121835712
I know box of friends will duplicate your head after picking up guillotine. It makes it a bretty good pickup for Lillith.
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>Brimstone
>Bend Spoon
>Tammy's head

Press space to win.
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>>121837739
Honestly with how many shit items the game has recently, I want to guarantee one damage up before the Depths
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>>121838307
slow down, you find fun things too fast
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>>121838445
understandable
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>>121838307

6 charge Tammys head inbound
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>>121838765
Honestly I wouldn't even care anymore, since its only good one synergy with brimstone.
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>>121838765
Do you think they would do that?

Back in the first nerf patch, they decided to nerf Krampus' Head from 3 to 6 and left Tammy's Head alone.
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>>121839171
They left BoB and Azazel alone for a year.
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>>121839171

Do you think they would nerf Azazel?

Oh wait.
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>playing the daily
>go into 4th floor devil room
>OH GOD ONLY 1 HEART PLEASE BE ABADDON
>blood rites
thanks game
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>>121838307
Here a better shot of this silliness
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>mfw first Greed after patch
What the fuck?
So long Godhead, see you when someone figures out a way to cheese the challenge, like always.
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>>121841176
D20
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>>121841176
no face?
I got godhead on my first greed after the patch, and I beat him only taking 2 damage, and I didn't cheese shit.
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>>121841176
>>121841486
Literally this.

But it won't necessarily save you from a 5-minute fight, which I can't figure out how to get around.
Just keep rolling for Gnawed Leaf and get some autoattackers.
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>>121841628
Is Chaos Card in greed mode?
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>>121841176
Every time you attack him he takes 2 seconds then recalculates his HP based on damage received.

So get a fuckton of damage, bomb him, wait, attack, repeat.
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>>121841486
How does D20 help with Ultra Greed?
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>>121842376
by getting op af
look >>121841628
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holy fucking shit is Ipecac + Dr Fetus the strongest combo in the game? Took me 35 minutes to beat The Lamb going through Boss Rush AND Hush
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>>121841821
Yes.
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>>121842472
But how does that happen? I keep seeing people post rooms filled with pickups like that, but I can never figure out how they did it.
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>>121842750
step one get D20
step 2 make a full wave + the bosses BUT don't pick up the money
step 3 reroll + get booty
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>>121842969
Not that Anon but I'm assuming they get even more pick-ups since the reroll spawns sacks and you can reroll that from the eventual battery that should spawn? Afterwards it's rinse & repeat?
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>>121842969
Huh. I would be too scared to give up my item money to figure that out on my own.
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>>121843283
yup
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Can I order steak with ketchup?
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>>121843283
You can do that but it's less likely.
The better method is to reroll, open all chests, pick up only good coins (nickels + dimes), buy batteries, and repeat.
It's easier with Mom's Key or other loot boosters, like Sack Head.
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Can someone tell me what is even the point of Isaac's tears when we have Tammy's head?
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>>121843810
It's so fucking bad
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>>121843810
None.
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>>121843810
Watered down version of Tammy's Head that's only good if you have Godhead and a shit ton of Damage Ups.
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>fatty farts can push you off rocks
RIP Epic Fetus Lost run.

>>121843810
You can use it multiple times a room.
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>>121843810
>Filename
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>>121843810
>edmunds tears after lost was datamined
Shouldn't the recharge time be 1 per room then?
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>>121844394
It would be be fully charged 24/7, Anon.
Also, Isaac's Tears refills by 1 every time you shoot.
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Wake up /boig/! We can't be on 7 yet!
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>>121845729
Everyone's choking on their steaks.
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>>121845729
To hopefully inject more life into the thread I'll ask this again

Post ideas for items, challenges, pickups, etc. I want to see a community of nerds coming up with better ideas than Edmund and Nicalis.
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>>121804790

How the fuck else would you pronounce it you dingus?
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Is lazurus just straight better than isaac? They both have 3 2 2 on the character select screen.
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>>121846060

An active/card/pill that "spawns" a store, probably a pseudo teleport. The store selling prices are doubled.

This way we don't get ball crushed that we have 99 gold and can't spend a single dime because Catacombs 1/2 decided to have Greed bosses.
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>>121845729
>dead general after 1 week

haha, rip /big/ again
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Do we know already what the No! trinket does? Just picked it up and it turned my run from shitty to fucking amazing in two floors, maybe it removes shit items from the item pools?
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Best item
Worst item
Most fun item synergy

Go
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Haven't done a Gnawed Leaf in so long. Time to open up twitch or something in second monitor for Ultra Greed
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What does the hush ending mean?
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>>121846060
>Holy Scale
>Adds your Damage and Tear Rate together, then evenly distributes it back into your two stats.
>Essentially Libra but only for Damage and Tear Rate.
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>>121846232
Isaac starts with the D6, probably the best spacebar item in game
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>>121846512
That the steak's not finished.
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>>121846512
It means that you need to chew your steak slowly :^)
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>>121846060
To add to the chess piece ideas from last thread
>Rook
>Isaac accelerates when moving straight up/down/left/right
>If he gains enough speed he charges forward like the Pony, breaking rocks in his path
>Unlike Taurus this can be used multiple times per room
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>>121846543

Meanwhile Lazarus starts with a pill, in an expansion filled with even more shit pills than the base game had. Enjoy your retro vision/health down.
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>>121846543
Im playing vanilla rebirth and i dont have the d6 when i start as isaac.
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>>121846512
I was sat at home eating yum heart when hush ending ring

"isaac is kill"

"no"

and you?????
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>>121846378

While you hold it you only find passive items. I love it, personally, I hate runs when I find nothing but fucking active items when I've already got a good one.
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>>121846571
>>121846612
this meme is becoming as annoying as "darude sandstorm"
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>>121847051
darone - sandsteak
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>nerf everything good the character can get
>don't nerf any of the bullshit enemies/rooms you regularly see

??????????????????????????
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>>121846905

You have to unlock it.
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>>121846905
beat isaac or the chest as blue baby to unlock it, forget which
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>>121846512
It means Isaac died in the chest.

Realistically it's not anything we didn't already know.
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>>121847195
Wait for the Modding Messiahs, Anon.
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>trying to unlock something with Eden
>respawn with Judas shadow
>get Judas achievement instead

oops
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>>121847478
Yeah, the character revival items turn you into that a form of that character. It's not technically the same exact character, Shadow Judas has his own ID, but for achievements sake they are.
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>clear all the pre-afterbirth Lost unlocks on hardmode
>no Godhead
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>>121846512
>still can't get Ending 17 on my main save
just fuck my shit up ed
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>>121847590
Gotta do Hush, Mega Satan and Ultra Greed in Afterbirth :^)
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What's the deal with Hush's bullet storm shit where it flashes purple? There's times it damages you and times it doesn't which makes it really fucking annoying if you're trying to dodge it.
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>>121847869
You have no clue how much I hate that unconsistent shit.
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>>121847431
I thought nicalis made this game, not bethesda
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>>121847869
I think the bullet height might be all kinds of fucked up during the part. Kind of like how monstro's shots don't hit you until the very end of their arc.
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>>121804273
>one of the great games >300 hours of playtime
>took >400 to beat that damn lost
><long break><afterbirth happens>
>anything past the foot keeps killing me
>still an awsome game
>I love it
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>>121847869
>>121847975
I've lost several runs today to that shit, both times with Dad's Key to do Mega Satan. It's never going to be fixed either because
>It makes the game more difficult so it's good :^)
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>>121847869
position yourself in the Right spot and stay still and nothing will hit you. reposition when he changes firing directions
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>>121847869
Get orbitals. Max 3 orbitals blocking shots is all you need to no damage the entire Hush fight, seriously. That and maneuverability, because he'll spawn Gapers that'll chase you and be annoying, and place Boils to annoy you more.
And maybe flight, if you lack speed a little, to be able to outlast his tear beams that home in on you and leave behind creep.
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>>121847379
Shat about the part that happens aftrr that scene? You know, where isaac gets out of a chest outside and his shadow forms into a demon?

>>121847621
I just beat him with a high damage Judas. I was lucky that i got that shield (trinity shield i believe), tech 2, dark bum and little chad. I also still had the book of belial at the end of my run. Thanks rng.
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>there are people that don't play on permanent BL0000DY
why?
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>>121848241
You misunderstood my post. I can beat the boss just fine, but I can't get the ending. The chest only shows up the first time you kill the boss, but if for some reason you don't go inside it that first time, it will never appear again, and you'll never get the ending.
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>>121847781
>mega satan

cool so reset until I get a good starting item and then hopefully get a god room in the next couple floors

I love resetting!
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>>121848438
Oh so you devided to enter the cathedral/sheol or something? Is that removed by the patch btw? When i just beat him, all i got was the ending chest to appear.
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>>121846232
Lazarus has worse luck and ?shot speed?, Isaac has the D6.

>>121848438
What did you do instead of going inside it?
I didn't get the option to continue when the chest appeared.
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>>121804750
Been having a lot more fun playing with Cain desu.
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>>121848627
>>121848738
Crawlspace'd to Sheol. There's a guaranteed Crawlspace in one of the two item rooms, and I got a black market.

Other people had a similar problem, but crashed instead, blocking them from the ending too.
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>>121848554

Just get a chara editor and cheat yourself a dad's key.
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Randomly grew angel wings after touching bible. Angel transformation in game?
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is there a discount for rebirth if you already own original + wrath? i'm too cheap to spend $17/$29 even though i have $45 in my walleto
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>>121850050
Stop drinking red bull.
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>>121850050
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Transformations#tab=Angel
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>>121850418

lol
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Help me with this one /boig/
http://strawpoll.me/5967795
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>>121850050
Yep, three holy items will give you permanent flight.

>>121850418
Is that really what the original looks like?
Damn, it's been a while.
>>
Ultra Greed is so fucking easy

This health is just artificial difficulty making the fight last longer than it should
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>>121850735
It really been some time. I like originals style but backgrounds look so ugly. As well as movement and whole polishness is not great as in rebirth, but after afterbirth I start to question that.
>>
WHY IS RAG MAN SO FUCKING TANKY
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>>121817910
I got carried by Blank Card+ Emperor, some people get the stopwatch, some say R until Epic Fetus.

Brains is fucking brutal as well, you're doomed if it's a "high hp+spawning shit" boss.
I got carried by Sac Dagger, which also carried me through Guardian.
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>>121851403
To remind you to pick Judas next time.
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>>121821648
I ran into that mega-fatty on my Brains! run.
Probably ate half my spirit hearts.
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>>121851489
He really doesn't belong as a first tier boss though.
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So what is the Hush exactly? Is he Isaac's literal afterbirth?
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>>121851752
I like how some bosses in the caves are easier than the ones in the basement. Balance.
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>>121850735
>>121850603
seriously though
should i just spend the money now? i assume where the last sale was only on halloween, it won't be cheap again for a very long time
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gory
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>>121852093

I actually feel endorphins release when I see it's the Hollow now.
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>>121852012
Hell if I know, I'm still not sure what The Lamb represents too.
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>>121850732
http://strawpoll.me/5967795/r
I went left and got Speed ball, thanks /boig/!
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>>121851752
That's what everyone said when the Haunt first showed up
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>flat worm now synergizes with Godhead and Death's Touch
neat

>>121852304
Jesus is the Lamb of God. The Lamb = Isaac's interpretation of Jesus.
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>finally get angel room
>it's this tiny
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>>121852304

The Lamb is exactly that - what Abraham sacrificed instead of his son. Naturally it's a bit pissed off. Or that's what I always assumed.
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>>121852420
Haunt isn't tanky at all. It's a harder boss that just about anything else you'll find at that point in the game, but it doesn't overstay its welcome.

Ragman is easy, but takes fucking forever to kill.
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>>121852526

Wait until you get Krampus in a devil room that size.
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>>121852591
Wow boring.
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>>121852526
At least he's not trying to Jew you out of keys for soul hearts.

>>121852420
And I never understood why.
Rag Man does have too much HP, though, especially for a spawning boss.
Gemini has 280, Monstro has 250, and he has 250, but he spawns Raglings, so the fight is twice as long.
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Why are Mega Greed and Hush so fucking tanky, who thought this was a good idea?

Enough damage to wipe a Monstro in two or three hits but I barely tickle fucking Mega Greed.
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>>121852304
>>121852454
I remember a theory that the satanic route in the game is actually the angelic route, and Isaac's own twisted views of religion due to his mother's obsessions are what reverses their portrayal in the game
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>>121852418
Right was the knife.
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>onan's streak with tech .5 and trinity shield
I thought I wasn't supposed to be having fun, Edmund (v:
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>>121852857

Mega Greed isn't that bad. The whole point of that mode is putting together such an OP build you can make mincemeat of even his healthbar. He does make me wonder why no other enemies have a healing mechanic.

The Hush is a bit stupid. There's no reason for his first form whatsoever, for starters.
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>>121853326
>The whole point of that mode is putting together such an OP build you can make mincemeat of even his healthbar.
Then how come he's designed specifically so that it is impossible to do that
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>>121853326
Nubs and Globins.
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>>121853209
Onan's Streak is pretty fun anyway.
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>Empty Vessel
>mfw yet another reason to ditch your red hearts
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In greed mode I find myself building enough damage to kill Ultra Greed's summons in a few hits, tears at a comfy level and praying for some sort of piercing shot. Then the rest for me is health health health. It's not like the donation machine ever accepts more than a max of 10 at a time from me.

Death's Touch + Coal is probably my favorite combo there. I haven't had Brimstone in greed mode yet.

The boss fight is boring.
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>>121853587

That's not quite the same, but yeah alright. An enemy with heart AI that continuously heals other enemies in the room seems obvious.
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>>121810280
wanna show us what retro vision looks like with the filter on?
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>>121810280
E P I C
P
I
C
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What happens if I use Joker on Cathedral?
I haven't unlocked The Chest yet btw
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>>121854718
You get taken to the Null, a secret floor where everything is glitched
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>>121853326
I think the first form is meant to fake you out. The first time I encountered him, I was pretty darn surprised! (In hindsight, I really should have seen it coming, but...)
>>121854718
You'll get a devil room or an angel room.
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>>121854718
Teleported to Devil/Angel room.
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>Keep saying I despise how retarded this game is
>Still have 230/254 Achievements unlocked honestly and not through bugs

I can never stop, I'm starting to adapt to the bullshit but this game still frustrates me. If I take more than a month with The Lost though I'm modding

Honestly the game would probably be better if it was just Rebirth with the new items, Lilith and some of the bosses and nothing else
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>>121855884
Absolute madman
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>>121855884
You're peeing coins!
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A bunch of dead isaacs running the shop, I could just take what I wantedShould give you the option to try and steal, maybe risk a greed fight or something
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I already beat Hush with Lilith. This is supposed to be only an Isaac/??? run to finish the post-it. I just went for Hush because I'm a cocky motherfucker right now, with this setup. No orbitals to block shots. No anti-2hu anything. Just me, my Box of Friends that runs on a Car Battery, and lots of knives.

Here goes.
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>>121855884
Seed?
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>>121858210
>quarter for 15c
kek
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>>121858472
No regrets.
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>people fucking hate Bob's Brain
>let's make a challenge where you can only fire brains it'll my fun!!
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>>121858886
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>>121858886
too much fun was detected in your game, chew that steak slowly :^)
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>Start greed mode as eden
>start off with sack boy or what ever it's called.
>get habit and black card and 2 of diamonds.

Yes I am going to cheese and I'm going to enjoy every minute of it.
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>>121860332
Enjoy Greed in every shop, m8
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>>121860332
>start eden run
>it's always some bullshit like anti-grav tears with -3 tear rate
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>>121860552
That's not how Greed mode works ya dingo.
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>>121860643
You heard me.
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I know no one uses it, but would Gaster Blaster over Shoop Da Whoop interest anyone?
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Eve is best waifu.
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>>121860836
You underkucks are like the ponyfags, stop forcing your shit on everything
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>>121861093
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Fuck Fallout 4 am I right boys
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>>121860836
I want it buffed to at least be a fucking Active Brimstone. I don't care what you're meming

I would like Bony shots that work like Thin Odd Mushroom, though. You can feel your sins crawling on your back

>>121860957
Lilith > Eve > Maggy
Maggy needs a fucking buff

>>121861206
Afterbirth is significantly worse than Fallout 4 and I'm never going to play Fallout 4
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>>121861093
Not him but stop forcing any meme items.

No steak.
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>>121824765
>Mad about Placebo
>The most potentially gamebreaking item in existence
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>>121861872
>Stop forcing meme items
>In Isaac
>In fucking Isaac
>Stop forcing meme items in ISAAC
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>become a pokemon master
>catch several hosts and brimstone ghosts
>read to unleash my white hot friendship on mega satan
>friend ball breaks mega satan

Th-thanks Edmund.
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>>121861795
I'm surprised we didn't get Bony shots. Pretty sure a lot of people wanted it, and Edmund knows that people love tear effects that change the graphics.
It's probably why Eight Inch Nails exist.
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>>121861795
Maggy's remained completely unchanged since her introduction in Vanilla.
Vanilla Isaac was first released Four Years ago.
Over the span of patches that added more content, Wrath of the Lamb and its respective patches, Rebirth and Afterbirth, she's still the exact same character.
4 Hearts, shitty speed, slightly lower attack than Isaac, and the ever so useless Yum Heart.
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>NL enjoys Afterbirth so far
>Except for the Speed challenge
>But he keeps going on about how Edmund and Nicalis are constantly getting rid of things that are fun
What the fuck have you done, Ed?
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>>121862419
Huh, I might need to start watching Northern Lion if he isn't afraid to preach the truth.
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>>121862531
Anon, he's Canadian
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>>121862384
>Slightly lower attack
That's a Cleric meme, she has the same base attack as Isaac and ???
The rest are pretty true though, Yum Heart needs less charge time and she should start with Immaculate Conception to make her massive health be used for something

>>121862419
This makes me sad. I wish the egghead will have fun in the future

He's like me, we're Isaac sluts... This is so disappointing
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>Make interesting character that makes familiars somewhat tolerable and might make you pick them up even if presented with a better choice
>nerf because of reasons

Thanks edmon, I really needed to slow down there
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>>121862282
>It's probably why Eight Inch Nails exist.
Don't forget about $$$ MONEY SHOT $$$.
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>>121862703
Yeah, along with "we already made the sprites for Ultra Geed so why not."
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God damn it
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>play Judas at random
>get a good run
>first time getting the full key
>die in cathedral, killed myself with ipecac, get pissed
>next run as Judas and the game decides to be the generous
>get short ranged tears, three guppy items, the fire rate shroom, cricket's head, a devil item that does damage up, and cricket's body
>all before mom.

What happened? I'm not used to winning!
This is unusual and I'm not sure if I like it!
Would have been nice for this shit to have been here where I had the fucking key.
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>>121862419
>Edmud&Co managed to make even NL passive aggressive

It's quite a feat actually, and I'm certain this is only the first bite
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>>121862979
nevermind
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>>121863005
>What happened?

Balance ;^)))
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>>121862531
Even though he has over 1900 episodes of Isaac, he's still willing to call dumb bullshit out whenever he sees it.
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>PhD
>retro vision
>hey what does this do
>game crashes

thanks
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>>121863005
>having an ipecac run
>and killing yourself
anon you're just too shit at this game
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>>121863524
http://www.moddingofisaac.com/mod/854/removedretrovisionpill
This should help.
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>>121863458
>has over 1900 episodes
>tried to push a bomb over a gap the other day
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>>121860836
That'd be neat

>>121861093
>>>/v/ is for fun policing, lad
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They really need to playtest shit if they're honestly nerfing / not buffing things so that every run wouldn't be an automatic win.
I mean, this is Rebirth I'm talking about, but I've been banging my head against the wall in morbid curiosity for several hours; I seem to be averaging at around four keys per three chapters.

Bombs seem to vary wildly, but more often than not there are none in the first stage - getting a bombless first chapter seems awfully common.

Then you take into account the game comes with several different characters, some of which will find a surprising heap of items more or less useless.

The worst run so far was dragging my ass all the way to Mom's boss door without a single key and one bomb.

Of course, my luck might simply be fucked, I have no solid statistics on anything!
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I DID IT

UNLOCKED SUPER MEAT BOY THE SAME RUN TOO
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>>121863736
That's why we talk about fun here. Ed doesn't see it
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Someone remind me again why we hate Retro Vision?
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>>121864134

because it crashes my game
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>>121864134
Because it's not hip and cool
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>>121863574
But that is not new information. I already know I am shit at the video game.

Also might as well add Black Market to the list of amazing shit that has happened this run.
Pic related has seed.
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>>121864134
Because it's annoying and hurts my eyes.
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>>121864134
Makes it too hard to see for some people, crashes other people's computers.
I'm not thrilled on Retro Vision, but eh. I don't care about it really.
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>infestation 2 + guppy

the world is mine too bad i can't do mega satan on this run THANKS ED
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>>121864347
I hope you got both Humbling Bundle AND Hive Mind.
God I love Humbling Bundle.

>>121864170
Does it?
>>121864275
>Too Retro
>>121864473
Yeah I guess.
>>121864549
Damn, OK then.
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>>121864347
Anon
What fucking item did you buy
It better have been fucking AMAZING to be worth taking it over hive mind or humbling bundle
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>>121864636
Tyrone please
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>>121864913
Candle. I don't play Isaac often enough to know Hivemind, but I guess I should have taken it anyways to at least have marked it off the card.
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so i gave in and bought rebirth,
it is glorious and smooth as expected
managed to get about 15 achievements in ~2 hours, beat satan with isaac
but, it seems oddly easy, like i picked up some new things i've never seen before, and i was nearly invincible through sheol
how much worse is hard mode compared to this? original's hard mode was pretty goddamn savage
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>>121865424
You're guppy with an insane firerate.
Guppy's flies scales based on your base damage.
Hivemind increases the power of all friendly flies and spiders.
YOU. FUCKED. UP.

TAKE HIVEMIND AND HUMBLING BUNDLE ANYWAY, YOU DON'T FUCKING NEED THOSE SPIRIT HEARTS
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>>121865481
>original's hard mode
Vanilla isaac doesn't have a hard mode.
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>>121865481
you are gimping yourself by playing Normal mode
Hard or nothing

that and youll later get the Everything is Terrible and so on popups
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>>121865579
But I'm already in utero tho

Use the seed and do it yourself and show e how wrong I am.
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>>121865708
He's talking about that garbage that Florian made.
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>>121865751
Then you could've skipped Humbling Bundle I guess, but you still should've fucking taken Hive Mind you fucking IDIOT.
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>tfw no dad's key

at least i got the chest unlock

the moment i walked into the battle with ??? he just disintegrated from spiders and flies

it's the best feeling in the world

edmund will make it impossible with an update
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>playing the lost
>get monstro's lung + chocolate milk
>die to mega fatty because low speed
>get ipecac + soy milk
>die to room filled with tiny spiders
>get tech x + triple shot + continuum + even more options + spider mod
>die to room filled with explosive enemies
>constantly get devil rooms even though I'm trying to get angel rooms
>skip devil room
>does not give me an angel room

Fun times today. Can't wait for tomorrow.
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>>121866020
DIRTY DEEDS AND THEY'RE DONE DIRT CHEAP
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>>121866020
I wouldn't be talking bad about his joke when you can't even spell disintegrate correctly.
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>>121866020

i fucking hate puush holy shit

>>121866204

s-shut up
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>>121866020
>memearrowing outside of 4chan
get out
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>Greed mode Lazarus
>Get 4x Cancer thanks to Mom's box
>Gonna get Godhead in the shop thanks to Chaos
>Fucking champion bloat (the one that shits bombs everywhere) and champion gurglings for the boss

Delete this
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>>121866335
eat my cum bro
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new thread when
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>mfw I never have to fight Hush with Maggy ever again
thank jesus, just need to knock out Dark Room and Grande Diablo
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>mfw trying to get to Big Baphomet with Judas

he always gets the best devils deals, fug
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>>121867007

>>121867281
>>121867281

>>121867281
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>>121867251
>big baphomet
Don't you mean Large Lucifer?
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