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epic trollage Edition

Last thread: >>121804273

>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never

Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly. 9mb patch MAY have fixed this.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that cum that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: 6028 LLMK (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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first for FUN
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>mfw I beat Large Lucifer as the Lost
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Binding of Isaac Afterbirth?

More like

Binding of Isaac AfterNERF

HAH
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if you need a lost seed here you go

W2K9 EGKS

this is literally all you need, it's good for judas, maggy and isaac
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>>121867543
the best part is, after every wave of enemies, Ultra Greed takes extra damage once you start hitting him again
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>mfw I get to Massive Mephistopheles without speed ups
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So now that everyone has pretty much finished all the content of the pre-release patch, what are you hoping will be added when afterbirth releases?
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this isn't a funny joke
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>>121867896
>mfw I figth Absurd Asmodeus with the chaos card
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>>121867548
>>121867843
>>121868038
I don't understand this meme
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why is challenge 24 still locked
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>>121867934
slow the fuck down you autist, you don't want to burn your tongue on the steak do you?
>>121868186
you too, shithead
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>mfw I find Dad's key right in front of the door to Tremendous Tempter
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>>121868114
It's isaac's personal version of Biggie Smalls.
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>fight Bulky Belphegor as the unfound
>get hit as he's about to die
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>curse of the unknown before fighting Super-Sized Sinner
>its the Dead Cat and my red hearts drop to one
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>pick up Dr. Fetus
>pick up Butt Bombs

>second floor boss is Dangle

>BUTT BOMBS HEAL DANGLE
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>fighting Large Lucifer as The Missing
>somehow die to Big Blue Trollface Man when he gets summoned
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>>121868845
Eat that steak slowly. CHOKE ON IT.
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Do you think Bigger Belial knocks up Lilith and that's how Cambion Conception works?
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EDMUUNNNND!
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>>121869051
This kind of shit was already in Rebirth.
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>hush
>mega satan

look mom i can make bad touhous
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>mfw winning against the Wumbo Wicked-One as The Misplaced
>die to a red poop left by a champion boss
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>>121869117
I actually like The Hush fight. The health scaling's too high right now, but I love the dodging.
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>>121868987
She was probably already pregnant from the get-go. Amazing Abaddon had nothing to do with it.
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getting real sick of the steak meme, can't we think of more interesting ways to complain?
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>>121868987
So this is where the preggers Lilith meme comes from. I haven't gotten Afterbirth yet and didn't get why people kept saying she was pregnant
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>>121868987
A cambion is a cross between a human and an incubus/succubus
Assuming that Lilith is at least 1/5 human, she fucks her Incubus and that's how it works
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>>121869261
be glad that the Inmense Incubus fight doesn't have the health scaling yet
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>>121869130
>The Misplaced
Won't lie. I had a hearty chuckle.
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>>121867543
is that the new ludo knife?
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>>121869419
>she not only shits out babies, but also /ss/'s them
Does Lilith's perversion know no bounds?
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>>121869380
Yeah, Cambion Conception knocks up your character and Lilith starts with it when you unlock it. I'm banking on false hopes Maggy starts with Immaculate someday

>>121869419
T-too lewd...
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oh shit
time to have fun
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>>121869498
>Inmense Incubus
and what's with this meme, how did it start?
Did it literally start today as I don't think I've seen it before
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>>121869967

NO

STOP HAVING FUN
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>>121869689
it's ludo knife with 20/20 triple shot and quad shot
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>>121869967
>fetus
lol
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>>121870021
THERE'S NO STOPPING THE FUN TRAIN
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>>121870131

STOP IT RIGHT NOW OR

OR
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>start Azazel Run
>get PHD
>get Nigger Bum
>Balls of steel pills everywhere
>soul hearts laying on the ground that I can't fucking take because I'm full up
>get pope's hat
>more Soul hearts
>
>
>tfw skipped the first devil room and now it's only angel rooms
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>only time it's worth beating hush is if you're playing Samson, Eden or Lilith

bravo edmund
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>>121870131
NOT ONLY THAT BUT MY POLYFETUS BOMBS EXPLODE INTO REGULAR BOMBS
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>>121870003
I dunno man, Enormous Evil-One has been in the game since Rebirth came out
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>>121870436
I get the feeling this is just 1 or 2 epic memesters having a giggle at their own hilarity
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>>121870350
what dude are you telling me you dont like useless on-hit items
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I just ran into the weirdest bug. I was fighting Lokii and killed all but one, then Loki spawned and all the sudden Lokii respawned infinitely until the screen was full of him.

I tried to screenshot but didn't quite catch it. Killed me right quick from contact damage.

Anyone else run into this? I was in greed mode.
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Number 2 is a fucking awful item
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GUYS
HOW SHOULD I FURTHER ENHANCE MY FUN
I LEGITIMATELY DON'T KNOW
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>>121870632
I haven't personally, but apparently it is a thing, you aren't alone.
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>>121870632
Well, seems I'm not the only one to experience it. This isn't my screenshot but mine looked about the same. Crazy.
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>>121870798

by blowing up that tinted rock
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>>121870798
CHOCOLATE MILK.
GO ALL IN FAGGOT.
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>>121870350
See, that's one of my biggest gripes with Isaac. There are a bunch of bad or worthless items you have to "unlock" and it just makes no sense, unless you're a completionist or like the challenge you have no incentive on to unlock it.
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>>121870798
Tech X will tear through the enemies the Hush spawns faster, and gives you bigger shots so it'll be more likely to hit him.
I say go with Tech X.
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>>121870897
GOOD FUCKING IDEA
LET'S DO THIS YOU BLUE FUCKHEAD

>>121870952
2BAD
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>>121870350
>not beating it as the Lost to get an item reskin
you're not playing the game right
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Do you guys think they split this expansion in half and are going to release the other half next year as another xp pack?

its the only logical conclusion i can come to on why this is so fucking lacking
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[fun intensifies]
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>Temperance spawns a Heart Begger in Greed Mode

fml. I can't seem to get 2 of Diamonds to spawn along with Blank Card either. Card just fine. But the Diamonds evade me.
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>>121871609
seed?
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Please somebody stop me before I go full autism and reskin the game into something completely different for my own personal enjoyment
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>>121871609
>7 not-fun items + Holy Light
Congratulations.
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>>121871943
Do it.

And make sure it's jojos bizzare adventure themed
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>Decide to try Onan's Streak for the 30th time
>Seraphim first treasure room

There's no way I can mess this up, right?
r-right?
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>>121871943
The question is, anon, do you have the spriting skills?
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these corners look ugly as hell
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>>121872121
That'd be neat but much of the incredible autism would come from the fact that it'd probably be original

>>121872269
Absolutely not, but y'know what they say about practice
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>>121872308
how would you fix them, though?
Serious question
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>>121872464
Make them not look like shit, simple
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>>121872586
yes, but how? it's a really awkward angle due to the perspective used in the game
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>>121872464
for one not introduce diagonal lines in a pattern thats mostly vertical
two learn how to draw a fucking corner
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>>121872682
I don't really see how you can fit the corner in there that matches with those walls, could you draw something that'd work? As I'm fairly sure it's impossible to achieve unless you replace the corner square with a pillar or something
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>>121870350
fates reward is pretty good
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>>121872838
no i do not care enough about this conversation to draw something
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>>121872403
Have you even tried before then? Spriting is hard work.
Also, here's the front sprite of the Gaster Blaster mod I was thinking of doing.
Came out WAY better than I was expecting.
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>>121872935
Upload this now
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>>121872881
well I stand by what I said since I can't at all see how anyone could fix the corner, it's a problem with the top-down perspective the game uses
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>>121873015
I need to do the other sides and firing sprites, anon.
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>>121872935
Woah, fuck. I'm working on an Undertale mod for Isaac. I'd love to work with you, man.
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>>121872935
damn anon, that's pretty good
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>>121873021
Remove all corners from the game, done.
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>be azazel
>get proptosis
>does nothing
EDMUUNNND
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>>121872935
Yeah I know it ain't easy

Naturally I'd give it some practice, but again my autism would keep me from exposing it to the internet
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>>121872935
9/10 would fit the game seamlessly, just not sure what's going on with its jawline
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>Unironically liking Undertale
gb2tumblr
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>>121873268

>unironically liking binding of isaac

how EDGY can you get
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>>121873268
>Unironically being the fun police
gb2/v/
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>>121873268
wrong thread?
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>>121873338
>Implying I play for the story or theme.
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>>121873413

>a child cries blood tears that he gained from a deal with Satan on his overweight mom to kill him then crawls inside her womb and destroys her heart then kills himself in a church

Isaac is edgy m8
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well that was fun
seed is YVZF X7PX if anyone wants to have fun as well
don't open the chests first thing though, second secret room is a rune room
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>>121873520
I never said it wasn't, i'm saying I don't play it because of how it looks or the story or whatever. I didn't even know what the story was outside of the intro and kept playing because it's addicting and fun
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>>121873650

>fun

QUICK CALL EDMUND THERE'S NERFING TO BE DONE
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>>121873520
And?
He literally just said that he doesn't play the game for it's themes, but for the core gameplay.

In fact I don't think there's anyone here who plays Isaac for that.
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>>121873596
forgot pic
crickets body is OP with dr fetus
so glad it got buffed again
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>>121873750

I have no conversational awareness.
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This is the worst fucking curse. I have two full charges of the D6, there's options and I can be sure I'll end up picking pageant boy or box of stuff
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>>121873131
I just sprite on a whim anon, don't think I could do a whole project.
The hard part about this Gaster Blaster is going to be doing the Side and Firing Sprites. I can't pull the jaw down because I'm already at the maximum size Shoop Da Whoop can take, and there's no official artwork of the Gaster Blasters from the side.
Have a simplistic Determination item sprite I've done earlier.
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What do I even start with Lilith? 4 room charge on the box makes me very hesitant to use it, especially since it is only for one room. 2 Room charge felt great when I first got her and did Greed Mode.
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>>121874013
Pick ONE curse that you would have for the entire run
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>>121874115
XL
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>>121874115
labyrinth

ez
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>>121873131
I've made an Undertale music mod for Rebirth and am in the process of updating it for Afterbirth. I could maybe work with you.
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>>121874115
I like XL floors and the one that teleports you randomly is just annoying
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>>121874115
curse of darkness
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>>121874186
nice with your powers combined you can make the most autistic mod ever
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>>121874115
Darkness
>Crank up Gamma
>Two items remove it anyway
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>permanent curse easter eggs
>the only one that locks you out of unlocking items is permanent curse of the labyrinth

ed why
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Does Book of Belial just increase odds of getting a Devil Room or is it still the same chance for Angel Rooms?

>>121874115
Labyrinth.
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>>121874295
>Most autistic
>Not sonic
>Not mlp
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>>121874324
Three if you count runes as items.
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>>121874342
Because that would be fun, we can't have that
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>>121874013
>>121874115
from most tolerable to most bullshit:

>Labyrinth/XL
>Darkness
>Lost
>Maze
>Blind
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>>121874486
>Implying I can find runes

>>121874553
Stick Unknown beneath Lost
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>placebo
>48 hour energy
>d6

this gon be gud
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>>121874553
>>121874625
>Unknown beneath Lost
how did I forget about that curse

>Labyrinth/XL
>Darkness
>Lost
>Unknown
>Maze
>Blind
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Infanticide or My Innermost Apocalypse?

Hericide or Enmity of the Dark Lord?
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>>121874915

MIA
EotDL
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>>121874056
I was thinking more-so as using the Gaster Blaster for Brimstone. Would that not work either?

Also, it's so annoying how the item sprites in the game interact with character sprites. Fucks up EVERYTHING.
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>>121874831
Maze is a minor annoyance and not knowing where you're going is far worse than not having your health displayed. You should always know your health total anyway.
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does nightlite stack with stopwach
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>>121874915
>Latter
>Former
Respectively, of course
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>>121874186
I actually already did that. Replacing Rebirth music is honestly really easy. If you can sprite at all though, that'd be helpful.
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>>121875036
I don't know, anon as with curse of the lost you can map out where to go yourself, although sucks hard if you had already picked up the compass. Personally I find it easier to keep track of where I'm going in curse of the lost than how much health I'm currently at with curse of the unknown
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>>121875146
There are no bad 2-heart deals.
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>>121875276
Well, that's unfortunate, especially considering I'm devoid of artistic talent. Guess I'm of no use to you, then.
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>>121874915
The only good Rebirth tracks are Cellar, the Chest, Cathedral and Mom.
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>>121875335

it was the nail

and it was rerolled into judas' shadow
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>>121875146
First. If Dead Cat, also the second.
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>>121875387
Bretty good, because your HP was low anyway you shoulda taken the other deal to kill yourself immediately to come back with double damage.
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>>121875387
>rerolling the nail
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>>121875462

the other one was rerolled into spirit of the night

overall i think i came out of it pretty well

>>121875487

i never was a fan of the nail. don't know why when it's just a better book of revelations.
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>>121874973
Brimstone could work, it's a LOT bigger.
Doesn't fix my side-sprite problem though, still figuring out how the hell I'll make it work.
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>reroll machine in treasure room
>hit it absentmindedly because I have 99 coins and I keep getting shit
>accidentally reroll the wafer
of course it had to go away in 1 coin when the fucking TNT before it took 5
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>>121875610
What's the problem with the side sprite? Can't make it fit? Can't do it without making it look weird?
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I finally did it boys all of the afterbirth challenges completed.

Just beat Brains! a few minutes ago. What a fucking cunt. I was carried hard by the sacrificial dagger + polaroid. Basically got hit once and cleared the entire room.

Also whoever said dark bum was nerfed he definitely was not that little nigga carried me with one million soul hearts.

Also
>chaos card on isaac
>emperor on blue baby

if I lost that shit I deserved to die IRL.

fuck it though fuck edmund.
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>>121875765
As I said earlier, there's no reference of the side to go off of. I'll try my best but it won't come out as good as the front sprite.
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>>121875989
Dark Bum has been nerfed maybe five times since rebirth released. The fact that he's still that good shows you just how little they playtest the game, because there is absolutely no way that original dark bum should have been allowed.
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Well
It's good to know that bosses can spawn in these rooms now
I got fucking Ragman
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>>121874831
more like

>Darkness
>Lost
>Maze
>Labyrinth/XL
>Unknown
>Blind
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>>121874115
>go to seeds
>DARK NESS
>forces curse of darkness for the entire run
>doesn't disable trophies
>never have to deal with bullshit like the curse of the blind or unknown ever again
Fuck you, macaroni
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GOD, FUCK THE LOST

EVERY FUCKING TIME I GET HOLY MANTLE OR 9 LIVES I GET NO DAMAGE
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>>121876406
Slow down partner. You gotta savor every bite of that steak

yes the lost is complete bullshit, this is why I don't even remotely feel bad when I save scum his achievements, getting mantle/dead cat + god tier damage items in itself is a fucking achievement never mind losing a run like that to some stray bullshit that this game can throw at you.
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>>121876312
how the hell is labyrinth worse than lost and maze?
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>>121876276

This can't be real.
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>>121876667
missing out on devil deals mostly. lost isn't bad if you're okay at memorizing maps. Maze is pretty shitty when it triggers a bunch of times in a row but that doesn't happen all that frequently I find.
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>truly cursed challenge
>every floor uses every single one of the curses
How would you react?
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>>121876805
yeah but if you want boss rush/hush curse of the labyrinth is generally good to me and quicker than doing the floors separately - maze/lost can seriously waste time
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>>121874915
I honestly don't care enough to have a preference for either soundtrack

But Mourner Unto Sheol is my favorite Indie song
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>>121876923
eh. It's honestly significantly less bullshit than most of the current challenges. I wouldn't even mind killing all the way up to the lamb with that.
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I'm not sure what it is but there's something that makes my hourlgass use item never run out of battery so I'm having an "Edge of Tomorrow" run right now
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>>121876923
pretty sure having maze+lost+labyrinth on womb or higher together could get yourself stuck in a loop for a while
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>>121877083
Is that shit even particularly useful for anything other than if you take a ton of damage in a room or something?
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>>121876923
>start with chaos and the D6
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>never do the lamb because the free items in the chest are just way more fun

not sure why they went with shit cursed chests in the dark room but whatever
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>>121877182
it's basically an undo button for if you mess up in a room, handy if you are experimenting with items to try and get a particular combo, or messing with chance with a blood bank or something
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>>121877036
Anon, Soy Milk.
Bob's Brain.
Tiny Planet.
Strange Attractor.
Marked.
So many fucking items that could kill your run. Not to mention Devil Deals are always a gamble.

>>121877174
That's the point, anon.

I also forgot to mention, Black Candle does nothing in this mode.
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thanks edmund for this epic reroll

should've just kept my fucking explosivo for fucks sake
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>>121877353
ZA WARUDO
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>>121877353
WAKKA WAKKA MOTHAFOKKA
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>>121877192
how is the D6 useful with permanent curse of the blind?

would make more sense to start with the D4
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wow Edmung fucking fantastic game youve got here

i had the stopwatch for fucks sake
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>>121877341
>So many fucking items that could kill your run. Not to mention Devil Deals are always a gamble

honestly there aren't that many run killers. Compare that to how many of the challenges pretty much require you to get a god-item or are basically impossible. That's way more frustrating and bullshit than the 1/500 chance you might get soy milk which depending on your other items might not even be that bad.

it would be an annoying challenge sure, but a lot more fair than Speed! or beans or brains or some of the other ones.
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>>121877182
If I ever take damage in a room I use it and restart the room until I don't take damage.
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>>121877353
Oh hey it's the waka waka challenge
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>>121877286
I like going to Dark Room on most of my runs because I think it and Sheol are more fun than the Cathedral and Chest, which feel too easy.
There's like two rooms in the Dark Room that are truley bullshit, and the Lamb is way more fun to fight than a weaker version of the Isaac fight
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>>121877341
>So many fucking items that could kill your run.
easy, just make D4 a starting item

or you play as the lost in the challenge
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>>121877789
lost might actually be a worthwhile hi risk hi reward character once he starts w/ holy mantle

if it doesnt get rerolled by the d4 that is
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>>121877182
Lets you try a room again for no/less damage as others have said and in the later floors it can get your ass out of tight situations to try another path

Easily one of my most favorite items in Afterbirth

>>121877286
>Expecting anything good to come out of Nicalis
>>
>start run
>find dice room
>it's the five dice
>use it to reroll floor after grabbing boss item and treasure room item
>find another dice room after rerolling floor
>it's the five dice again
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>>121877924
>once he starts w/ holy mantle
oh is that actually a thing?

I still haven't bothered unlocking the lost due to how trash the character is that I didn't see the point in trying him out, but if they actually give him holy mantle I'll play as him right away
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Okay I need to figure this out
First time I played Rebirth and I went up against Isaac, I was like "oh cool he got buffed big time"
And then I went up against the Blue Baby and it seemed like nothing changed
Did they actually buff Isaac or am I going crazy?
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>>121877924
he's never going to start with holy mantle. Edward liked the original lost before he added spectral tears and the d4. people suggested holy mantle to him but he decided against it.
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List items that you would remove from the game, /boig/.

Whether they're severely outclassed by similar items (all the +1 HPs competing with Meat and Blue Cap, for instance), detrimental, or just plain useless, share 'em.
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>the chest
>tiny room double gurdy jr

FUCK YOU EDMUND
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Does Chocolate milk does anything with ludivico? What are my chances of beating this if I just freeze myself with gnawed leaf?
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>>121878197
I would remove soy milk from the "special" item pool. It can stay in the game otherwise.
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>>121878197
Bob's Brain and Experimental Treatment.
I don't mind shitty items at all, it's annoying to get a run with garbage-tier items but at the same time, I don't want every single run to have shit like Ipecac or Epic Fetus. But Bob's Brain and Experimental Treatment are literally the worst things concocted by human beings.
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>>121878197
Too many to list.
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>>121878184
>Edward liked the original lost
nah man I simply won't believe that one man can be that retarded, is there even 1 person out that that unironically likes or at least plays as the lost without scumming it hard?
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>>121878339
They did that in afterbirth
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>>121878339
It already is.
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>>121878286
if you have ludo 100% chance of beating it if you use gnawed leaf. May take a while though. someone did it with a plop and it took em 3 hours.

>>121878342
holy shit fuck experimental treatment. I never take that garbage. Hell if I see it floor 1 I just reset my run.
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>>121878286
I don't know, but Dead Onion does nothing for you.

And 100%, since Hush pretty much never moves.
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>>121878339
they actually did do that in afterbirth
same with lil' brim
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>>121878413
>>121878427
awesome that's good news.

>>121878403
yeah he posted in some blog post about how much fun he was having doing lost runs and how it was becoming his favorite character.
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>>121878286
Ludo already gives you piercing+spectral tears so Dead Onion is useless. Dead Onion is also a shot speed DOWN which is terrible for Ludo. Take Chocolate Milk even if it does nothing.
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>>121878339

it's no longer special in afterbirth

>>121878197

common cold, every familiar minus lil brimstone rotten baby bumbo and dry baby, experimental treatment, dead onion, holy water, milk

there's a few more i'd probably remove too but i can't think of anything else right now
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>>121878184

It is literally already partially in game.

If you random into the lost it will show him having the holy mantle.
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>>121878527
>he posted in some blog post
got a source for this please?
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>>121878197
My Reflection
Tiny Planet
Experimental Treatment
Bob's Brain can stay but remove it from the chest pool
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>>121878403
I don't savescum with the lost.
his post it is nearly empty
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>>121878575

>Not liking dead onion

What the fuck.
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>>121878682

i cannot stand shot speed downgrades in this game

plus it hurts range
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>>121878286
it's a tears up for the record. according to the wiki anyway.
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>>121878197
Every Bean
Notched Axe
Breath of Life
Scissors
Cursed Eye
Experimental Treatment
Guillotine
Key Pieces and Giga Devil
Mom Items that give Range Ups
The 'Original' Heart Containers (Breakfast, Lunch)
Holy Water
Friendly Ball
New Glass Cannon
And fucking Farting Baby
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>>121878737
>spectral and piercing tears
>lingers on enemies longer than any other tear
>range upgrades are nearly as common as HP ups
What the fuck anon?
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>>121878664
it's not just the savescum exploit, almost everyone I've seen holds R until they get a good item or curse room or D4 reroll
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YOU CANNOT ALT+F4 CHEESE ON MEGA SATAN ANYMORE

IT KILLS YOU BEFORE THE SCREEN EVEN LOADS
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So explosive tear makes ludivico reset its position after exploding, rather than continously exploding in place. The more you know. Also the little flies just moves it away which is even worse.
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>MFW I can leave this Eternal Torment and be In peace with Myself
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>>121878830
I learned that as well.
I wish it did just place a tear on the enemy and stay in position, would make the synergy GOAT
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>>121878593
http://bindingofisaac.com/post/118142172929/mega-update-afterbirth-5
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>>121878817

>>lingers on enemies longer than any other tear

this does nothing

spectral and piercing are nice

and every time i get dead onion i always get no range upgrades ever. kinda shitty to rag on it for bad luck, but people don't like bob's brain because they can't use it right, so hey.
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>>121878593
>ruth be told, i think the lost is probably the most exciting aspect of the game… ive been playing as him for the last week and having more fun with the game than i ever have before… the lost totally changes the game and makes you rethink every items power level.. and that’s just good game design…sadly not every aspect of the lost reflects this.

http://bindingofisaac.com/post/118142172929/mega-update-afterbirth-5
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>>121878912
>>121878918
holy shit this killed me
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>>121878828
Same with Hush ;_;
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>Greed Mode as Lazarus
>Accidentally picked up Cursed Eye
>Roll with it
>Get to Ultra Greed
>He's 90% dead
>>>>>>>>Get teleported out
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>>121879036
pretty much, but between that blog post and the fact that all of his balance suggestions never mentioned holy mantle or dead cat i'm pretty sure we wont see them any time soon, it's probably just some leftover from testing.
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>>121878914
>this does nothing
What? It allows the tear to do more ticks of damage. Do you not know how ludo/piercing tears works?
And people rag on Bob's Brain because it's fucking terrible. It forces you to CONSTANTLY pay attention to whether it's spawned or not, and CONSTANTLY stay at a range in case it does spawn without you noticing it. Not only that but it makes fast chasing enemies impossible to avoid taking damage from.
Are you seriously fucking trying to say that Bob's Brain is a better fucking item than Dead Onion?
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>do 4 consecutive runs as azazel trying to at least get to mega satan.
>I either get the key, or have another way to get there.
>All runs go great
>except for when I get to standard satan
>all guaranteed hits
>die on second form by spawning black sperm thing on all 4 runs
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>>121879181
>fighting satan

why not just go kill isaac instead of satan? you can fight mega satan in the chest and you get 4 free items before hand.
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>>121879181
If you have both key pieces or dad's key why go to Satan?
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>>121879137

>What? It allows the tear to do more ticks of damage. Do you not know how ludo/piercing tears works?

you remember the challenge "slow roll?" well, that challenge had piercing tears. if a tear was reflected back towards boss after it had already hit the boss, the enemy would not take damage twice from the huge tear. unless dead onion changes this formula, i am led to believe it does nothing. ludovico is an entirely different story.

> It forces you to CONSTANTLY pay attention to whether it's spawned or not, and CONSTANTLY stay at a range in case it does spawn without you noticing it.

and this becomes incredibly easy to manage once you have even the slightest amount of experience with the brain.

>Not only that but it makes fast chasing enemies impossible to avoid taking damage from.

this i WILL give you.
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>>121879308
>>121879347
Because I do not have Chest unlocked yet.
I only have the Negative.
I did on my other computer, but thanks to fucking steam cloud, my main laptop's Isaac save overwrote those files.
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>>121879181
>do four consecutive runs as Judas trying to get 1 (ONE) Angel Room so I can cross Mega Satan off the post-it
>Edmund says no
It was 11 yesterday.
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>>121879462
But I got the key, or at least dad's key on every single run.
Watch it fucking change tomorrow.
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>>121879448
bruh just go unlock that shit it isn't even hard.
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>>121878267
>The Chest
>Tiny Room QUADRUPLE Gurdy Jr
>>
Is the sword you use in the guardian challenge an item we haven't unlocked yet, or just a reskinned spear?
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>brimstone floor 2
>lil brimstone floor 3

Jesus what a hilarious boss rush
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>Eden run
>basement 2
>only HP up, shit all damage (about 2.0)
>room filled with spiders and the fucking one that splits into spiders
>swarm me
>skittering death ensues

NICE FUCKING STEAK EDMUND

Also, Wooden Nickel will get nerfed, its too good for what it does.
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>>121879978
It's the spear.
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>>121878197

Abel: Fuck this guy. Shows up way too often.
Best Friend: Overall worthlessness
Brother Bobby, Sister Maggy, etc.
Every standard health up item that doesn't also grant some other boon.
Butter Bean
The Bean
Kidney Bean
Cursed Eye
Experimental Treatment
Isaac's Heart
Isaac's Tears
Magic 8 Ball
Mom's Pad
My Reflection
Notched Axe
Pageant Boy
Telepathy for Dummies
Mom's Pearls
Mom's heels, lipstick, underwear
Lost Fly
Teleport
Mine Crafter
Papa Fly
The common Cold

In addition,
Changes:
Remaining familiars that don't already inherit damage, of fire rate, inherit either or when appropriate
New set of health up items that increase range as well, to make up for lack of range increasing items, and decrease of health ups
Scissors now create a familiar that inherits full tear properties
All fly items that don't already block projectiles now do.
Chemical peel is now just a straight damage up
Tech 2 no longer reduces damage
Strange Attractor's shots now require a certain amount of distance to be traveled before they become magnetic.
Eve's mascara does not halve tear fire rate anymore, but still decreases fire rate by some amount
Glass Cannon goes back to how it was before the nerf.
Box of Friends goes back to being a 2 room charge

The game is now 50% more tolerable.
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>>121878085
>>121878184
There is a weird space above the D4 that I can't explain
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>>121879978
>In the Guardian challenge, the spear is reskinned to look like a sword.
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>>121880104
>Lost Fly
>Papa Fly
>Telepathy
bad taste to be honest family
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Alright welp that's enough of the Lost for the day. Two of the times I got good items I died to the same room in the cellar that has two unavoidable homing bombs in it.

I honestly wanna cheat with the Lost so badly, but at the same time I know if I do, it's just going to ruin it for me. I'm tempted to just drop the game. I regret buying the DLC. I REALLY wish Edmund dies a fucking horrible death.
>>
I WANT SPIDER MOD IN EVERY FUCKING RUN
IT'S SO GOOD
>>
>you now work at Nicalis
>you are tasked with creating a character that is even less interesting than azazel
>bonus points if your characters attack doesn't synergy with 95% of the games passive items

What do you do?
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>>121876670
It is
It'll happen to you one day and then you'll remember I tried to warn you
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>>121880568
Mom character that starts with Mom's knife but has the range that Incubus does with it.
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>>121880568

"The Really Really Lost"
Same as the Lost, but no d4, can pick up neither items nor pickups, nor cards, runes, or pills.
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>sideways bloat laser
>literally more than a full isaac away from me and still hits me
NICE HITBOX THERE EDMUND
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>need to do mega satan to finish eden's post it
>start with this

thank you edmund you are my greatest ally
>>
>play azazel
>get perfect items within first 2 floors
>have a fun run
>play issac
>not a single useful fucking thing until the second to last floor
>and even then it's still shit
I swear it is impossible to have a fun isaac run without using a seeded map
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>>121881037
truely it is a sign
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>>121880919
I literally just had an amazing run but died to this stupid piece of shit. I hate this boss so fucking much.
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>>121881037
inb4 curse of the blind soy milk
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fuck you ed
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>>121880919
>polyphemus squeezy cat o' nine tails
>dying to the bloat
holy FUCK you are FUCKING HORRIBLE at this game
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>>121880510
Spidermod should be a feature. Fuck the status effects just give me them delicious health bars.
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>>121881190
S L O W D O W N
L
O
W
D
O
W
N
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>>121881197
>start with 2 hearts and 2 soul hearts
>floaters can't be knockbacked or moved in any way
>they always corner you
>bloat has an instant-use laser
>and floor damage
>and bursts
>and the sideways laser has the hitbox of basically half the entire room
nah, bloat is just stupid.
>>
New item idea: Loner
For every familiar you have when you pick it up, it erases them and gives you +0.5 damage and +0.5 tears. For Lilith, it transfers the damage ups to the Incubus and makes Box of Friends do nothing.
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>Brains!
Holy fucking shit how do I fucking beat this
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>>121881354
>>floaters can't be knockbacked or moved in any way
but they can
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>>121881395
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>>121881438
yeah maybe if you don't have polyphemus
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>>121881354
Doesn't mean you're not shit.
You had a fucking won run and you threw like a BITCH.
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>>121881505
>instant, gauranteed, completely unavoidable damage
>threw
nah
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>>121881501
get some blue aura purity bruh you'll push them back
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>>121881586

Have you tried, perhaps, not standing in the areas he fires his lasers?

Are you fucking stupid?
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>>121881798
>at no point can you cross into another fourth of the room while avoiding floor damage and 2 floaters
why are you so angry anon, it's a video game. you know that right?
>>
how the fuck does tech x work
>>
>>121882051
Size depends on how long you hold down the button.
Small attacks do the same damage as large ones.
Small ones can hit enemies longer depending the the situation.
ALWAYS walk backwards while shooting it to ensure it hits longer.
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>>121881907

Here anon, I'll tell you the pro strat, since you seem to be so focused on blaming the game instead of admitting your faults.

-Be behind the bloat
-If you aren't behind the bloat, go to the bottom of the room and wait for him to jump at you
-Run to top of screen, shoot the bloat
-If he jumps at you while you are at the top of the room, move
-Don't stand directly below him or to the side of him
-Repeat until he is dead

Congrats anon, you are now 100% less bad at Isaac.
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>>121882051
Find Spoonbender and win.
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>post yfw Smegmund hid "Ur so close" in his most recent blog post
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>>121880490

>Lose lost run to necro 2 in a room with 3 bone guys right around you that hit you the moment you step through the door

And that's the last time I played as the lost.
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fuck
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>>121882301
Don't forget naiwuh. What does it mean?
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>>121882180

ok
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>>121882301
wait what
WAIT WHAT
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>>121882387
He had to force "ur so close" though, anon.
"ol ultra greeds OP buffs will be made easier." Is obviously him forcing it.
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>>121882416
>>
Holy fuck I never realized how much I love Technology 2 until it dropped on Onan's Streak. Now I can never play that challenge again.
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>>121882416
it means were so close to the actual release of afterbirth
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>>121882301
>>121882387
>>121882494
>>121882557
I don't get it, what am I supposed to be seeing?
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>>121882557
>>121882416
oops
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>splash damage + fire mind
AWWW YEAAAAAH
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>>121882818
>when a fire tear explodes, all of its splash tears explode too
holy balls
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>>121882818
>no pyromaniac
Enjoy death.
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>>121882931
this is a wee bit dangerous
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>>121883028
Your own fires don't hurt you.
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>>121883085
yeah, but the explosions do
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I have 253 secrets unlocked, but can't figure out what I am missing. Help?
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this run is p bitchin
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>>121883473
You need to donate 999 coins to the greed machine
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>>121883473
I know that one of the achievements is bugged so you can't get it yet.
Probably to make sure that no one gets too cozy with having 100%'d the game until everything's released.
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>>121881037

Nevermind, mega satan just decided to not work.

Guess I was chewing too fast ;~;
>>
>>121883601
Ahhhh fuck
>>
>Isaac turns into a hungry skeleton when he takes the caffeine pill
lel
>>
>>121883639

It's a bug with My Shadow

The leech counts as an enemy, but since he can't be killed by the player the game softlocks
>>
>>121883639
I've had that happen too. It's My Shadow that does it. Completely breaks Mega Stan
>>
>CURSE OF THE TOWER
>GLITTER BOMBS
>HOMING BOMBS
>POISON BOMBS

I'M HAVING FUN
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>>121883863
whoa there pardner we cant be having that
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which one?
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>>121883863

Easy there, boyo. How about you calm down, close the game, and download the latest patch of The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth?
>>
>>121883932

triple shot r u dumb m9
>>
I usually hate the stop watch because it means my special pool is now fucked but it makes The Hush fight silly
>>
>>121883863
LITERALLY
LITERALLY RIGHT FUCKING AFTER I POST THIS
>>121883891
>>121883938


I GET DOUBLE BLOAT

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

FUCK
OFF EDMUND
STOP RUINING MY FUN


FUUUUUUUUUUUUCKCKCKCKCKCKCKCKC
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>>121884031
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>>121883863
now you just need soy milk and dr fetus
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>>121884031
The truth is that you just got owned, nerd
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THIS HAS TO BE A FUCKING JOKE
>>
>>121884031
>>121883639

I'm pretty sure edmund is tracing our IP's from this thread and manually fucks with our runs
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>Psy Haunt
Lil' Haunts with psychic shots.
>>
>the big fat bat brats that move ever so slightly out of the way of your shots
>>
>>121884260
Why not add in a challenge version of the haunt that has a spoon bender brimstone. Still a basement boss, obviously.
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>died from my own explosions
SHIEEEEEEET
>>
>playing as the lost
>basement XL
>both treasure rooms have shitty use items
>first boss is double turdlings
>second boss is double rag man
if I hadn't died at rag man I'm pretty sure devil room would have been one evil heart and that one little faggot who shoots then dodges your shots
>>
>>121884348
Why not just give Rag Man brimstone, too?
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Why don't they show up after I've picked them up.
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>>121884348
That reminds me, am I the only one that's surprised that the posthumous Haunt, The Forskane, isn't harder?
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>>121884008
>I usually hate the stopwatch

f
a
g
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>>121884348
>>
>unlocking maggy as a vet

FUCK THIS

FUCK HEART CONTAINERS
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>>121884260
>>121884648
DELETE THIS
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>>121884829
>>121884648
>>121884260
inb4 in game
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first time in scarred womb, what should I expect?
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>>121884929
reskins
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>>121884929
nothing different
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>>121884929
Red poop.
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>>121884929

No annoying red filter
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>>121884929
LOTS of red poop.
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>>121883639
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/My_Shadow read this
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>Psychic Rage Spider
Rage Spider that fires homing brimstone shots. Has an eternal fly around it and a slightly smaller hitbox than normal.
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>died to red poop
I don't deserve to live
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>>121885123

>homing brimstone shots

STOP
T
O
P
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I'm fucking crying right now
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>>121885245
>free precedence
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>>121885180
>have a nearly guaranteed win as eden
>shitton of damage and shitton of firerate
>exploring chest to grab additional items
>go up against a double cage
>1 heart remaining
>OH FUCK
>rushing back to the boss door
>very nearly run into an aids poop that's surrounding the doors
>>
>Experimental Treatment rolling your stats into something decent after four straight floors of useless
I feel nothing.
>>
>>121885245

It's what you get for eating your steak to quick.
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>>121885323
simply ebin :^)
>>
>Isaac
>Isaac with the wig
>Pirate Isaac
>Isaac with the hat
>Dead Isaac
>Emo Isaac
>Edgy Isaac
>Halloween Isaac
>Isaac 2.0
>Haircut Isaac
>Spooky Isaac
>Drag Queen Isaac
>Old Isaac
so which one is your favorite guys?
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>rubber cement
okay shit, best starting item I've gotten in forever
>>
Do "One Makes You Larger/Smaller" pills affect your hitbox?
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>>121885430
Yes.
I had like, 2 smaller pills + 3 orbitals and I literally never got hit on the Hush fight.
>>
>tech X doesn't synergize with tear detonator or tammy's head
bravo edmund, bravo
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And finally,
>Psychic Homing Brimstone Haunt
Just like Lil' Haunts, but fire psychic homing brimstone shots instead of tears.

I hope you like my ideas, Edmund. They're completely fair and I believe the community as a large will enjoy them very much. I'm sure you think so too.
>>
>>121885548
jesus fucking christ
>>
>>121885548
THIS ISN'T FUCKING FUNNY ANON
STOP SAYING THIS SHIT
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>>121885548
But they don't turn ghost periodically, that's not CHALLENGING
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>>121885548
>>
>>121885379
Edgy Isaac I'm assuming is Ceremonial Robes?
That's my favorite
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WHY IS HE SUCH A FUCKING BULLET SPONGE
>>
>>121885973
"health is difficulty" -edmund micmillin 2016
>>
>>121885379
>>Isaac
normal isaac
>>Isaac with the wig
maggy
>>Pirate Isaac
cain
>>Isaac with the hat
judas
>>Dead Isaac
blue baby
>>Emo Isaac
eve
>>Edgy Isaac
?
>>Halloween Isaac
azazel?
>>Isaac 2.0
?
>>Haircut Isaac
lazarus
>>Spooky Isaac
the lost
>>Drag Queen Isaac
lilith?
>>Old Isaac
isaac without D6?
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>>121885548

Let's create the ultimate in bullshit enemy.

-homing brimstone
-has three eternal flies orbiting it
-goes intangible/invincible
-spawns random crack the sky beams periodically that also create the rock-shockwaves, leaving red poop where it hit

Am I missing anything?
>>
>>121886061
normal
maggy
cain
judas
blue baby
eve
samson
azazel
probably isaac with D6
lazarus
the lost
lilith
the keeper

git gud
he also forgot aborted isaac
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Savoring that steak for 17 runs.
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>>121886102
health scales with your DPS
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>>121886162
>Synthoil
>Humble
>Stop watch
You got this shit anon
Easy money
>>
>>121886163
Also it pops out from the ground, spawning 3 of those tumor enemies every time it does that.
>>
>>121886102
its one of those things that walk at you while invincible then when it pops up it does all that

also has creep and movement like those awful long leg spiders and a million health because hats how edmund would do it
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>>121886102
Krampus' spinning-quad brimstone. Make sure the enemy can move while they're firing them, too.
>>
>>121886153
I still don't really see how Drag Queen Isaac = Lilit but it's the only one that seems to fit
>>
>>121886226
That's Speed Ball, man.

>Caffeine Pill
>Sagittarius
>Wooden Spoon
>Pisces
>8 Ball
>Experimental Treatment
>Speed Ball
>Dog Food
thanks game
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>>121884031
Literally Edmund right now.
>>
Trying to get the lost achievements and right now. This does not feel like an expensive steak, more like a rotten fucking lemon
>>
>>121886102

Explodes into homing shots on death
Can still use all of its attacks while it is invincible
>>
Anyone have a seed with a quick brimstone?
Want to test my Gaster Blaster mod.
>>
>>121886492
tell me about it

i had two lucky runs with the lost yesterday and now im tearing my hair out trying to finish this fucking shit up
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>>121886548
HM12 QGTW
curse room
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>>121886667
Which mode?
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>>121886346
Looked a little gray but yeah I can see it now
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>>121886862
It's an old seed, nevermind
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I CAN'T FUCKING BEAT ULTRA GREED AS AZAZEL

HIS COLLISION BOX IS SO BIG

MY RANGE IS SO SHIT

YOUR DAMAGE DOESN'T MATTER
>>
>>121887198
Try getting an item that over rides Azazel's base brimstone.
Or, Rubber Cement apparently bounces at full brimstone-unlimited range, so you can just hug a wall and do that.
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Quite a while ago, I made my own Lil' Loki sprite.
The official Lil Loki sprite had me disappointed, so have my Loki compared to the official one.
Nicalis' on the left, mine on the right.
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fun
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>>121888109
i dont fucking care!
>>
>THIS FUCKING EDEN START


MY FUCKING DICK
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>>121888872
SO EXCITED I FORGOT THE PICTURE
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>abuse the shit out of One makes you Smaller + Placebo + sack head for tons of batteries in greed mode
>am literally invisibly small (not even a pixel anymore)
>finish ultra Greed with about 40 coins left and still a 0% jam chance
>donate 1 coin
>go at the machine again
>somehow miss it and touch the chest that's right after it

fuck

I'm sorry Edmund, was I having too much fun?
I-I'll try to not have as much fun next time
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which one
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>>121889296
Pretty sure you can't use Epic Fetus if you're blindfolded, and though spidermod is a lot of fun, it's not worth 3 soul hearts
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i just won the most clutch run in my isaac career
>go down to husk with low health
>win somehow by infamy, book of belial and my determination
>go to church with 2 and a half hearts
>get fucked by isaac somehow
>win
>get to chest with half a heart
>kamikaze with pyromaniac i got from a treasure room recently
mfw
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HOLY DICK SUCKING CHRIST HOLY CHESTS?
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>>121888109
Current Lil Loki is the cutest shit ever, why would you change him. Also, isn't it weird pretty much all the cute things are demonic?
>>
>>121890154

Yeah

They are shit, and are usually empty.
>>
>>121890154
It's just a regular gold chest that has chance to either replicate itself, yield nothing or behave normally.
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>>121888872
>>121888971
You're having fun, but thankfully we have a way to fix that
>>
>>121890235
>>121890209
I got a dead cat from it
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Quick! Somebody call Edmund! I'm having a good run already on Basement 2!
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>>121890238
You're right
I had a pretty damn good Ludovico build
Lump of Coal, fuck ton of tears up and shot speed items, Death's Scythes, and some decent damage
Then picked up Explosivo or whatever that bullshit item is and turns out it completely ruins Ludovico tech
Sticks to an enemy and makes it so you can't move it anymore until it explodes
What a fucking bullshit interaction/synergy
I'm so fucking angry right now that's such horseshit

fuck you edmund
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>>121890686
Oh shit what is happening, am I going to have shit luck for the next hundreds of runs?
>>
>>121890686
>>121891019
Thats clearly a bug. Better end this run and start a new one before you start having fun and break something.
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>>121890686
I don't understand how you have that many items and you're only on basement 2
Nothing's adding up
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>>121891154
Eden run, started with Forget me Now and the mushroom.
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>>121891154
It keeps happening, this is me on Catacombs 2
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THANK FUCKING GOD. FUCK BRAINS!
LAST ONE LEFT IS SPEED
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About bloody time.
>>
I'm trying to beat Solar System, should I keep Krampus' Head or take Box of Friends?
>>
>>121892163
Box of Friends will probably give you less of a headache overall.
>>
Was the Family Man challenge made easier in Afterbirth

I swear you didn't start with BFFs in Rebirth
>>
>>121892321
I ended up getting the bible the next floor but thanks, that was a good choice while it lasted.
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>>121892532
You did.
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Are curse rooms or sacrifice rooms ever worth it?

i think ive maybe used each like once
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>mfw strange attractor + tech 2 vs envy
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>>121893015
Always go in curse rooms unless it will kill you or lessen your chances of getting a devil deal.
>>
>>121893015
Sacrifice rooms haven't been worth it for a very long time
Curse rooms used to be a lot better and they still can be good but it's definitely like 8 times out of ten they're going to be horrible, 1 time out of time they'll be alright, and 1 time out of ten it'll be great
>>
fucking christ edmund really wants me to have judas' shadow as the lost it's shown up on basement the past 4 fucking runs i dont even want this garbage item normally
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>Trying some Lost runs
>Get killed by bullshit like a spider or a stray tear
>Get my shit together, get a decent run going, almost at mom with mom's knife + a couple of damage bonuses
>Bullshit spiders slides over the entire floor and kills me
>mfw

FUCK. Is there any secret tricks I don't know? I don't have Afterbirth fyi
>>
>>121893576
As one anon eloquently put it a couple threads back
They have a distinct pattern
>left
>right
>straight up your ass
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>>121886102

creates spiraling red creep its position
levitates/flies diagonally in a Pong like fashion
damage reduction like hush/ultra greed
summons 1 troll bomb mulligan every 1 second
has that 0.1 second jump on your location like mega fatty/the cage
summons 2 Bloats, 2 Monstro IIs ,2 The Cages and 2 Stains at 80%, 60% 40% and 20% hp
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ebin fetus time
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>>121893938
who's the little cum drop below infested baby
>>
>>121894341
Tiny Gurdy, charging familiar
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>>121886102
Permutates your movement controls, and I'm not just talking reversing them, I mean up is left, left is down, down is right and right is up
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>>121877465
If only you had The Soul
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>edmund in charge of making a foodchain
>>
Have any of you guys tried entering the Easter Egg Seeds in Afterbirth yet?

(Sorry if I am a Slowpoke)
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>reroll into The Soul

could this be the run?
>>
>>121895414
No
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>>121895414
You better eat it slower unless you want to choke and fucking die.
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>>121895414
NO NEVERMIND WORM SPAWNED INTO A BOMB ROCK WHICH KILLED ME EBIN GAME
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just dry baby my hush up
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For now, it's over.
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>>121895516
told you
>>
>>121895516
I've never noticed The Lost is depicted as an angel in the last will.
>>
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>>121895653
that image is completely random
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>>121895593
its almost like the lost was made to be savescummed people who claim no damage is unavoidable fuck off
>>
I broke greed i think. I had guppy , mom contact , enormous shoot speed and mongo + rotten baby. After i froze greed at about 80 % of his healt i just killed him in 2 seconds.
I fear now edmund may come and kill me, what should i do.
>>
>>121895978
Kill yourself instead and save him time.
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>>121895978
Play offline so he can't find you
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>ludovico technique
>see tiny planet
>"well i can control my tear so I don't see the harm in it"
>pick it up
>it leashes my ludovico tear
>R
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IF WITHIN 12 HOURS EDMUND DOESNT RELEASE A PATCH THAT TRIPLES THE CONTENT INCLUDING ENEMIES THAT ARENT RECOLORS AND NEW LEVELS AND ESPECIALLY THE ITEM COUNT TRINKETS NOT INCLUDED I WILL UNINSTALL THIS FUCKING GAME FOREVER AND NOT BUY THE NEXT XP PACK!!!
>>
>>121896489
Just uninstall now tbqh
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>>121896489
Might as well uninstall it now.
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>>121894951
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>Never completed a Lost run before
>Try a Greed mode run with him
>Reroll into having Lil' Brimstone
>Get D20
W-will I finally complete one guys?
>>
>>121896889
you jinxed it by posting
>>
>>121896889
Just be wary of the random troll bombs that may appear after the rerolls.
>>
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such exciting gameplay
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>>121896889
Just be wary of the random enemies that spawn on top of you no matter where to stand.
>>
>>121896889
Also, don't forget to keep rerolling till you find a Chaos Card.
>>
>>121896889
good luck , pray you dont get 5 fucking ways of spiders like i did. there was no space in the room to stand.
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>>121896929
You're right, I don't even know why I posted.
>>121896934
>>121897003
>>121897084
>>121897147
It's over guys, I got fucked over by something simple.
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I think i found a new synergy.

Seed:
BL9K02PB

Brimstone on Womb 1.

I Was playing Cain BTW.
>>
>>121897179
>Brimstone in afterbirth
you're lying there's no such thing
>>
>>121897447
then play the seed for your self.
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next patch notes:
>chaos card now has a 51% chance of bouncing away from enemy back at you
>the chest now always have curse of the blind (can't be removed by black candle or dagaz rune)
>special items can't appear on the first floor
>>
>>121897508
it was just sarcasm.
i was implying that they made brimston harder to find than sacred heart.
>>
>>121897586
>scolex added as floor 1 boss
>>
>>121897586
>in addition, to prevent reset scumming, you may only start one game per session
>>
>>121897586
>If you take any red damage during the run you're locked to only angel rooms
>in this particular case angel statues are unblowable
>>
>>121897586
>Due to the buff, picking Azazel makes you permanently stuck with Curse of the Blind on all floors with other curses being allowed at the same time
>>
>>121897751
Nah he would be much more clever
>resetting increases the likelihood for trash items and decreases the likelihood of good ones. The only way to return to normal settings is to complete runs.
>>
>>121897596
I guess I wasn't imaging things

I actually don't think I've gotten brimstone in afterbirth, except for game breaking runs in greed
>>
Judas's face is me right now.
>>
>>121898017
>Bomb the devil beggar
>Black feather comes out
Oh COMEON
>>
>>121897586
speaking of, what do you think Everything is Terrible 2 is going to do?
>>
>>121898310
Scaling health on all enemies
>>
>>121880568
>the steak
>when you get it unlocked it locks every item you've earnt including itself
>movespeed is so low that it is stationary if you try to use cheats to play as it
>>
>>121898310
triple health on enemies and they all spawn tanky spiders on death
>>
>>121898310
megaspiders , upon death spawn 2 more spiders , upon death they become 4 more spiders. Each spider shoots brimstone.
>>
Holy shit, what the fuck did they do to the Fortune Teller? It's absolutely unbearable now.
>>
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Should I fight Hush or just go to sheol
>>
>>121898607
hush gives no fuck about damage so if you cant get chaos card or all really balsy dont do it.
>>
>>121898607
>playing normal mode
>>
>>121898594
fortune teller has a purpose?
>>
>>121898726
Before Afterbirth it shat out soul hearts, cards and trinkets and had a decent chance to drop a Crystal Ball. Now it just keeps spewing bullshit and it can blow up normally without dropping the Ball.
>>
>>121898670
I don't feel like unlocked co-op babies
>>
>>121898670
normal mode has more than 2 encounter set ups at least

I swear its like hard mode isnt even randomized
>>
>>121898607
>Ipecac
Fuck no.
>>
>>121898802
I think you're just unlucky it's seems to be the same for me.
>>
>>121898816
>>121898824
>being this bad at this game
Shaking my trout to be sincere
>>
>>121898867
I've never seen it blow up without dropping anything before and the message-to-pickup ratio is clearly increased.
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>first time playing azazel since the nerf
>>
>tfw build absolute shit
>D100 yolo and chaos card dropped from something

thanks game
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>full damage stacked azazel
>didn't recognise soy milk
>picked it up
>>
>>121899454
Tear rate isn't that great as Azazel, I wouldn't mind a reworking of it when you get to higher tear rates to make your brimstone do the same amount ticks of damge, but have it be done faster, so the brimstone goes out faster, so you can throw more attacks faster.
Nerfing his charge rate I guess does that as well, but still.
Imagine if you could get Soy Milk as Azazel, and just button mash and damage just racks up.
>>
You guys think up any fun challenges?

>Afraid of the dark
You start with the night light and flying, rooms are pitch black. Creating fires can help.

>I'M LATE
Each room you go through forces a speed upgrade on you

>Monster Master
Blindfolded with the capture ball and a few babbies

>Technomancer
Star with spidermod, Tech X, Brimstone and Spood Bender
>>
>>121899758
something involving robo baby 2.0 and a blindfold
>>
>>121899938
>another blindfold challenge
please, no fucking more
>>
>>121899758
Maybe also add Friend Zone to Solar System challenge?

But man, I have an idea.
Have Character-centric Challenges, i.e. a run where you have a character with their unlocks on them. But now that I think about it, most characters have multiple trinket unlocks or multiple active unlocks, how would that work?
>>
>>121899758
>Transformers
You start with the D100 and you have to get 4 different transformation before beating Isaac
>>
>>121900176
>you have to get 4 different transformation before beating Isaac
that sounds so hard to code maan
>>
>>121899758
>Monster Master
Blindfolded with the capture ball and a few babbies
Fuck any more baby challenges, Family Man was more than enough for me.
>>
>Watching NL's most recent daily
>Shitting on Edmund for ruining fun

Good

>>121890161
This game would never make it in any other art style when you actually look at what you're doing and fighting
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>>121900432
>Watching NL
>>>/r/bindingofisaac
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>>121900473

Go take a nap and come back when you're done being stupid.
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>>121900473
>being contrarian in a general with 15 regulars
ok m8
>>
absolutely abysmal amount of content for the price compared to rebirth and even wrath of the lamb desu
>>
>start new save
>get Dark Boy before Basement Boy

awesome balance Edmund
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>>121899758
oh i just thought of a good one
start the player with the 9 volt, the d10 and a broken remote and make all the doors curse doors like in cursed
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He's right though. Box of Friends at 4 charge is retarded. I pretty much only use it during the boss if I don't have mapping.
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>>121900705

That sounds more annoying than fun
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>tfw beat mega satan for the first time
Hive mind, guppy, wig, infestation shot and polyphemus

Didn't even see him use his attacks
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>>121900746
It should be 3 at the max. 4 is just retarded and Edmund is doing it to spite the fans at this point.
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>activate greed button
>get damaged
haha
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>>121900631
ur so close ;)
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>>121900761
yes precisely
if you really wanted to annoy people you could include curse of the maze/lost too
or curse of the blind and chaos
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What if 3 different characters have to die to Greed, Super Greed and then Ultra Greed
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Post moments you knew you won/lost a run
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>>121901276
Blank Card 2 of Diamonds first Floor Greed Mode
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>Pawns of Protection

Blind Folded Lost with 5 dry babies
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FUCKING
WHAT MALEVOLENT FORCE POSSESSES A MAN TO MAKE THIS ROOM
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>Started Eden Run
>Got this setup
THE FUCK DOES BREATH OF LIFE EVEN DO
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>>121901173
shut up eggroll we arent doing your dumb arg
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>>121901276
this was rebirth a year ago though
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>>121901534
Hold down spacebar to become immune to bullets. If the item bar runs empty you'll be damaged.
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>>121901696
Wait nevermind I got it all wrong:

>Holding spacebar will gradually deplete the charge bar.
>Grants a brief moment of invincibility when the charge bar hits zero. If spacebar is held for an additional second after hitting zero, Isaac will take damage.
>The item will recharge on its own but cannot be used again until it is fully charged (even if you didn't fully deplete the charge bar).
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>>121901534
>>121901696
it has to get to zero to give you invincibility, but you can only hold it at zero for a second before it damages you iirc
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>>121901696
if that was how it worked it would actually be good
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>>121901790
>>121901760
thanks, but I have too many speed ups now
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>>121901478
Had that on judas too, item was blood of the martyr

No bombs/spirit hearts on the rest of the floor too
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>>121901887
What's that mod called
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>tfw computer so shitty Retro Mode pill slows the game to the point I can dodge stuff Matrix style
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>>121880510
it spawns batteries too
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>>121901986
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2
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>>121901986
>not reading the op
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>>121902339
thanks senpai
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>>121901643
THE DREAM
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>pick up fruitcake
>tear explodes
>die
random tear effect items are the absolute worst
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>Do Onan's Streak for the first time
>First item is Kidney Stones
>the effect takes place
>The resulting barrage gets me killed
wew laddy nice game McMillen
nice game
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>>121903119
>picking up items that fuck up your challenge
What's next, complaining you used a Bombs are Key pill in the Beans! challenge?
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>>121903119
>taking an item like Kidney Stone in Onan's Streak

that's just dumb of you anon
unless it was Curse of the Blind in which case, enjoy your steak :^)
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Normally play in Window mode but this is pretty nice to see the entire room
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>>121903493
how the fuck?
>>
I tweeted the meme names to edmund and he blocked me as expected
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>>121903594

which ones?
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>>121903594
this steak has too much salt
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>1st time playing afterbirth
>get all the characters on 1 run, fucking samson, azazel, cain, the whole fucking lot.
>kill greed with azazel first try
>And why not just kill isaac as Eden, first try while we're at it

ez game ez life
>>
>>121903425
>>121903331
It was blind floor one anyway and I wanted to see what would happen
Next run Luck Up pilled won me the run
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>>121903552
That's not even the lowest it can scale. It looks better than the lowest though.
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>>121903009
why did you pick it up?
>X is the worst, better get it anyhow?
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>>121903883

Can you dodge reliably like that?

>>121903941

>I know what everything does the first time
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>>121903705
Edmund "If there's fun to be had, I'll make it bad" McMillen
Edmund "If the item's a hit, let's turn it to shit" McMillen
Edmund "If you're feeling gay, a nerf's on the way" McMillen
Edmund "Nothing is safe, I'll nerf a year late" McMillen
Edmund "I'd collect unemployment before I'd give you enjoyment" McMillen
Edmund "My name is McMillen, your fun I'll be killin" McMillen
Edmund "If it clears a room, the item is doomed" McMillen
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>>121903493
>>121903883
how?
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>>121904014
>picking up Tech 2 for the first time
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>>121903941
First time I saw the item, didn't expect the tears to backfire.

At least I have it on my collection.
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>>121904092
Change the MaxScale to a number of your choice. The lower the more of the room you see.

C:\Users\<username>\Documents\My Games\Binding of Isaac Afterbirth\options.ini

linux pls go
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>>121904049

Those are funny as shit goddamn

>>121904096

With some damage ups Tech 2 is one of my favorite items. I love things that deal constant damage. Throw in an attack modifier and whooo weee I'm havin a blast.
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>>121904049
Edmund "Meet your doom in the tiny room" McMillen
>>
Edmund "Don't play a lot you stupid fuck" McMillen
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>>121904172
does it only work for certain numbers? I couldn't get anything besides "1" to work.
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>>121904471
1 is the lowest number that works.
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>>121904519
Right, but I can't get anything -above- 1 to work.
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>>121900579
I love this hot new meme word
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>>121904347
>>121904441
we need one about steaks
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>>121901478
>Haha muh difficulty
>Haha muh risk/reward
>Haha muh steak
Fucking smegmund
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>>121904609
Edmund 'If you swallow your steak, your back I will break' McMillen
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>>121904609

Edmund "When fun causes you to ache, remember the steak" McMillen
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>>121904609
Edmund Mcmillen
Edmund "Your time you must take when eating your steak" Mcmillen
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>>121904441
Has to rhyme, nerd
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>>121904749
>Edmund Mcmillen
kek
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>>121904783
Maybe jock would have been a bit better
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>>121904569
Make sure you save the ini file when the game is fully closed.
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>>121904609
Edmund "Don't worry about win streaks, slowly and thoroughly enjoy your steak" McMillen
Edmund "For steaks, all stakes" McMillen
Edmund "If you devour your stake, you better stay awake" McMillen
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Edmund "I heard you were having fun, have a Rag Man on Basement 1" McMillen
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>>121904950
How the hell do you pronounce 'streaks'
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>>121904964
Edmund "pull the nerf trigger on every demon nigger" McMillen
Edmund "There'll be no fun 'til the ARG's done" McMillen
Edmund "Unfair damage is awesome, now go play the Lost some" McMillen
>>
Edmund "This trap room isn't spite, just equip flight" McMillen
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Post ideas for improving transformations
>As Mushroom, you are now healed when a mushroom goes off on you

Also someone needs to compile these Edmund names
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>>121905363
When you get hit you fart spores and do poison damage. This poison damage would actually be good.

Syringes: Your lowest stat gets a bonus or something like that
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do i take it or leave it?im going for hush

wish me good luck
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>>121904049
Edmund "120 new items would be really keen, I hope you like beans" McMillen
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Dear /boig/, can you tell me why an item that just gives you 10 bombs STILL FUCKING EXISTS?
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>>121905761
forgot pic
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>>121905886
No.
Mom's knife is shit against hush.
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>>121905823
Because it was in the original game.
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The hell

I picked up a yellow/black pill and popped it and it was balls of steel. But a blue/white I already had was balls of steel
>>
>doing the Guardian
>buy Blank Card with hope that I'll get Heirophant or Justice or something
>nothing for Caves floors
>The Bible in shop on Caves I, don't have enough money because picked up Blank Card
>Nothing on Depths I except The Tower. Angel Room offers me Prayer Card. Consider it, but decide against it.
>I believe in Blank Card.
>My faith is rewarded with Emperor on Depths II
>oh buddy oh boy
>roll the fuck over Mom, It Lives!

Thank fuck. Now to never do that challenge again.
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>>121905823
can you tell me why lord of the pit is still a 2 heart deal?
>>
>chest
>only source of reliable damage is ???'s Only Friend

Ultra Greed gonna be impossible
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What's the deal with The Lost's starting items? I don't have the D4 and I keep getting random Luck Ups when I collect pennies.
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>>121906324
Lucky Pennies are for all characters.
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>>121906324
you get luck ups from collecting pennies after you donate a certain amount to the greed machine, and you have to unlock the D4 to start with it.
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>>121906324
You need to unlock the D4 and when you beat ultra greed, collecting pennies has a chance to give you a luck up.
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>>121906394
>>121906419
>>121906420
thanks guys
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>>121906318
This will make or break.
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>>121906487
get both pussy
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>>121906556
Cube of Meat and Lord of the Pit

No coins to donate but I did win. Cheesed in corner most of the run with ???'s Only Friend

Achievement unlocked though so all good.
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>>121905823
same reason this piece of shit continues to be even less useful that an actual piece of shit
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>good lost run
>get to hush
>realize proptosis and brimstone has negative synergy
>die like bith x8 times

i dont enjoy playing this game anymore
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I swear my controller is a prank by edmund.
I accidentally used the suicide king instead of a bomb.
BACK TO THE KEYBOARD
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>>121907020
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>>121907026

>Does less damage than Brimstone on Maggy
>Multiple-room charge
>Synergizes with nothing

WHY, FATTY MCSTEAKUMS
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>tfw Hush just stays underground launching tears constantly for a minute

I don't there ever really was a steak.
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>>121907026
>>121907358
Guess why it's dropped by Envy, aka trollface guy.
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How to get ball of bandages in greed run?
Do I need chaos? is it only in the shop/item room?
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>>121907701
I don't think you can get it or at least I haven't seen it once.
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If i'll use forget me now on chest, can i still fight Mega Satan?
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>>121905823
10 bombs are pretty useful. Can get all of the first secret rooms and tinted rocks for many floors and have some left for offensive usage.
>>121906313
Flying is OP.
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>>121908842
>pyro
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It's like game just threw its hands up in the air and told me to win.
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>>121908958
Aaaand?
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>>121908842
>get a devil deal with spirit of the night and lord of the pit
which one do you take?
now if lord of the pit was a 1 heart deal instead of 2, I might consider it depending on my build, but as it stands there's no fucking reason for it to be a 2 heart deal when there are so many better items that you can get for 1.
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>>121907701
>>121908381
You can get Meat Boy in Greed Mode, so I'm sure the bandages are there too
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>>121909047
Why the fuck would you be happy with 10 bombs, when you can get anything that might actually help you OR 99 BOMBS INSTEAD?
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>>121908958
yeah woop de doo not all items are equal,its pretty much part of the game.compare most boss items to treasure room items
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>>121909039
>mom's knife
>doesnt even work with gubby
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>>121909170
That's not a reason for being happy with it.
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>>121909279
Not complaining.
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>jera
>blank card
>car battery

may as well just spawn the end chest in front of me right now
>>
is there any point in playing in normal mode ever? or can i just unlock everything in hard mode and onwards
have only unlocked eve, samson and magnum so far, going for a mom's heart hard mode kill
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>>121909735
Normal Mode is legit fucking pointless. A buffer for noobs, but there's really no reason not to play Hard Mode

Hard Mode is exactly the same except some worse luck here and there
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So now angel rooms just spawn other items instead when the pool is exhausted?
I do not have chaos, by the way.

>>121909735
There's literally no reason to play on normal.
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>Eden
>Gives me IV bag

Get rekt edmuhgame
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>beat greed mode
>have 99 pennies and two of diamonds
greed machine jams almost immediately
>>
>this super secret room
for what purpose
for what
fucking
purpose
>>
>http://bindingofisaac.com/post/119330273474/chorus-mortis-afterbirth-update-7

>“sacrifice rooms are worthless”

>this is something i agree with and again something that i felt held more weight/significance to the games theme/story due to it being the focal point to finding the lost. but alas we all know how that ended… but what to do with them now?

>on the gameplay side of things the sacrifice room was meant to be a “i got too much life” archetype, where as if you found more life than you needed you could gamble with it in said rooms… but no one does that.. why? because its too luck based with its payouts.

>well i can say this, i found a way to fix this system… but its a but of an overhaul that will need to be added into afterbirth instead of just a normal update… but it should make things a lot more interesting.

Did anything happen about this?
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>>121910471
no
>>
>>121910471
No.
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>>121910471
Yeah, there are buttons there.
RAVISHING
>>
To only time I ever used Sacrifice rooms is on Eve and Samson to get the bonus and only on the first floor.

Maybe to kill Lazarus too.
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>>121909150
10 bombs will help me. 99 bombs of course would be better, but you don't get pyro every run. Just because there exists better items doesn't mean that it's bad to get worse item if it's still helpful.
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>>121910912
That's like saying Bob's brain is good because you don't get godhead every run.
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>>121909810
I would feel better about playing hard mode if the game was more balanced
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>>121910804
don't forget for Judas's shadow
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>>121911015
Bob's Brain is good
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>>121911142
No it isn't.
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>>121911248
>>121911015
I bet you restart runs when you don't get Mom's Knife on the first floor too you faggot.
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>>121911248
Shitter detected.

>what's the point of 99% of items when there is a 1% that's better than them?

This is how you sounded before.
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>>121911405
That wasn't actually me, you know.
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>>121911470
Sorry then.
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I don't want to do this lost run anymore, I don't think my heart can take it.
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>>121911553
Does the shield protect against your bombs?
Try it :^)
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>>121911626
Hell no I'm not trying that.
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>>121911553
Damn anon, good luck
>>
So i'm starting xxxxxl and for FUN i wanted to try and explore all the floors. The problem is my first item room is soymilk. Should i do it guys?
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>>121911754
Soymilk is a fun item
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>>121910418
Now that I read >>121910471, I think this is a part of fatmund's 'ebin sekret arg :)))))))))))'
Someone, just try dying there in multiple ways while holding faded polaroid or something.
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My heart hurts.
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>>121911909
now there's also cursed eye in the equation
>>
What happened to Brimstone? Feels a lot weaker than it did in Rebirth?
>>
>>121912349
At this point, you must ask yourself a question.

>"Am I fucking retarded?"

If yes, pick it up.
>>
I really love the Hush. I know a lot of people bitch about the HP scaling, but he really turns the game on its head

>Playing as Eden, have a stupidly OP guppy build that demolishes everything instantly
>Decide to go to Blue Womb to get Eden's Blessing unlock
>Hush is a fucking monster and tanks all of my flies and mom's box + cancer tears
>Survive with only one heart left
>>
>>121912646
I for one enjoy the HP scaling. I never feel like I accomplished anything when I just plow through the final boss. Where's the fun in that?
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>>121912869
Where's the fun in having one of your stats completely irrelevant?
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>>121912081
you went very far with a very shitty build so props to you
>>
reminder edmund always plays with his girlfriend in co-op mode and that's why he likes the lost
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>>121912941

That IS the fun, you actually have to fight him on relatively even footing instead of one-shotting him like most builds that get to ???/Lamb/Mega Satan normally do
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>>121880036
bad times engaged
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>>121880568
melee only character with an activated item that damages everything in the room but has a 20 second charge (and always starts empty)

he has superarmor so he can handle contact with enemies for a short while, bullets and lasers skip it tho
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>>121913151
No, that's fucking bollocks.
If that's the case, why not just make him have shitloads of HP instead?
Not so you spend years chipping away health with the most OP of builds, but so you can't really one shot him?
Even if that's the case, him hiding underground shooting tears all the fucking time and pop up once in a millenium just so you can chip away like 1-pixel of his HP bar is NOT. FUN.
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>>121912612
WOW soymilk + cursed eye isnt so bad. i'm tapeshotting barrages of soymilk
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>>121913151
I agree with you. Actually having to fight the final boss for once is great.
HP scaling on ultra greed is a little overkill though, since he's not nearly as strong or interesting to fight
>>
>>121912646
I feel Ultra Greed's scaling is complete bullshit. Hush is more befitting since his design alone seems to be very like, bulky really

I just think Hush is available too early since he's a harder boss than even Super Lucifer
>>
>>121913447

>Why not just make him have shitloads of HP instead?

Because Edmund has literally been doing that for every boss since Mom's Heart and it never works

Satan has more health than Mom's Heart and is easy
Isaac has more health than Satan and is easy
??? has more health than Isaac and is easy
The Lamb has more health than ??? and is easy
Mega Satan has more health than The Lamb and is easy

Ed basically tried what you're asking for 5 times, and it didn't work. Hush, however, works perfectly
>>
isnt the point of isaac to get items and become op

if I didn't want to be OP I wouldn't pick up the items that make me so
>>
>>121913684
That doesn't justify anything.
Since you like having long dates with mr. HP scaling, having shitloads of HP wouldn't ruin it at all, if we consider mega stan hasn't got shitloads of HP, you fucking retard.
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>>121913684
>Hush, however, works perfectly
If the point of the game is to make me fall asleep yeah for sure

Also fuck off edmund
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>>121913684
No he fucking doesn't, he's just straight up boring. His attacks are easy to dodge and the fight goes for far, far too long, so your only real danger is getting bored and taking some dumb damage as a result. Some HP scaling is fine, but the amount that Hush scales to is absolutely ridiculous.
>>
>>121913891
Hush is one, optional bossfight in the entire fucking game you can nuke on occasion. After you beat him once with a character, you get their unlock and never have to fight them again with that character

Ultra Greed's scaling is bad, Hush isn't

>>121913918
Are you the type to reset until you get Soul or something? Dodging Hush's bullets is pretty fun, but I'm a 2hufag so I guess that's fair

Again, after beating him the first time, he's 100% optional. I just hate that he's based on a fucking time limit

I fucking hate time limits
>>
>get cthulu transformation for the first time
>"cool maybe this spawns spiders or something like guppy"
>it gives 2 black hearts and flight

this steak is delicious, my compliments to the chef
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>>121914169
>required for 100%
>optional
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>>121914169
I play 2hu too and Hush doesn't really have any interesting patterns.
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>>121913918

I don't get what's so "boring" about the Hush fight, is this a spicy new meme

He's constantly shitting attack after attack, having attack variety more than any other boss in the whole game, and the time it takes to kill him usually syncs up to the time it takes for you to see all of his attacks

Have you never played a video game where boss fights take longer than 15 seconds
>>
>>121909810
>>121909735
So then what's the point of playing on hard mode???
>>
>>121914174

Let's fix all the shitty transformations:

Cthulhu transformation:
Now has the succubus aura around yourself (damaging foes while granting yourself a 50% damage boost)
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>>121914169
>Dodging Hush's bullets is pretty fun

No it isn't. He has maybe five or six attacks, every single one of which is shut down completely by more than one orbital, in addition to several having areas that they straight up cannot hit.
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>>121914174
forgot picture
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>>121914267
Your a cute nigger. One victory for each character and he's completely optional after that

So 12 characters 13 when Edmund stops being a faggot and you're done with Hush forever. You'll be doing more fucking runs than that

>>121914271
Edmund is under the assumption tons of bullets = difficulty
Dodging is fun, but he can't into actual patterns because he's dabbling in shit he doesn't understand

>>121914289
You don't get to see most of his interesting attacks until his health bar's around half-full, unfortunately

>>121914298
Getting all the hardmode completion marks unlocks Co-Op babies I think. For The Lost you get Godhead

>>121914380
Not all runs have orbitals. I'll admit it would be better if he had more attacks
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>>121914289
>I don't get what's so "boring" about the Hush fight, is this a spicy new meme

No, it's what people have been saying since day 1

>He's constantly shitting attack after attack

All of which are easy to dodge and completely shut down by orbitals, which are extremely common items.

>having attack variety more than any other boss in the whole game

No he doesn't. He has about the same attack variety as Mega Satan, except Mega Satan also summons almost half of the games' minibosses for you to fight, has distinct multiple phases so that you can actually feel like you're making progress, and takes maybe a fifth of the time to actually beat.

>Have you never played a video game where boss fights take longer than 15 seconds

That's not the point. The problem is that Hush takes dozens of times longer than every single other boss in the game, but isn't dozens of times more interesting to compensate.
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>>121914289
>He's constantly shitting attack after attack, having attack variety more than any other boss in the whole game

>ez mode bullet hell pattern
>continuum tears the counter for which is standing fucking still
>sky beams which literally cant hit you if you have enough speed or will kill you if you don't have enough
>summons flies you can casually walk away from
>summon a fuckton of weak things you will probably clear with one shot
>stay underground for an hour

Wow what an interesting and varied moveset Edmund
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>>121914289
This is as boring as a mmo boss

you have a low number of attacks
high visible tips to help you avoid them
massive amount of room to navigate
and it takes fucking 5 minutes to kill bare minimum

the only way you're taking damage is being bored and not paying attention

not an interesting boss at all, they tried to give him an epic vibe but he's just a bullet sponge
That shit ain't touhou at all, I'm not even into the genre but it's a joke, baby's first bullet "hell".

They had a good insight with the "100 small summons rather than 2 big" to make feel the player powerful but that's it.

They could've make him have attacks doing colateral damage to his summon to make the player take more risks.
Or make him chase you more to keep a feeling of urgency
Or try new attacks instead of one given by a new item...

It's not only about the fact that he is tanky.
It's also because he's super boring. It's a bullet sponge, it fucking sucks.
Long fights can be exciting and nerves wrecking, hush is a 2 phase borefest.
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>>121914646
Everything is optional after you do it once, you dense motherfucker.
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>>121914686
Ultra Lucifer is a shitty fucking boss

Spawning bosses doesn't make you any more difficult. I nuked the fucker with only three hits on my Eden and only got hit once, completely wrecking that shitty fucking boss

Hush at least doesn't die to simple fucking shit. Takes too long? Maybe. But Bigger Belial is fucking awful
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Is there any trick to dodging the hush's continuum shots?

I've only fought him twice. I can dodge most of it but I imagine it would be a cunt as the lost.
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>>121915104
Stand where the Hush is facing and move as little as possible. The corners are also guaranteed safe zones, although which corner depends on which direction he's facing.
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>>121914174
>not liking free flight

yeah, nah ur a cunt
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>>121915104
Yeah nigger you stand fucking still

I'm not even kidding Edmund is such a hack that move has like 12 safe spots a mile long

That move is free fucking damage
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>>121915104
Stand in the very top left corner of the room, they won't hit you at all.
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>>121914174
it's because the chtlulu monster it converts aren't in the game yet

next weeks patch sorry bruh
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>>121914174
You should see the Drugs transformation.

Here is an exhaustive list of its bonuses:
>spawns a single pill
>>
PERMANENT
POLAROID
INVINCIBILITY
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>>121914370
Drugs/Steroids
>gives a significant boost to all of the Syringe Items Isaac has collected and will collect, such as Poison Touch also dealing contact damage and Speed Ball giving more Speed and Range
>all Pills will become Good, have their effect be 1.5 times as effective and Neutral Pills are turned into Damage Ups that boost Isaac's Damage by 0.2
>Experimental Treatment, if it hasn't been collected for the Transformation always boosts your stats instead of lowering them
>as a drawback, Placebo and Mom's Bottle of Pills become one-use items, and any source of duplication for pills such as Jera become rarer

Tumor
>making a triple shot like Eggmund "intended"
>Familiars will now stay as close as possible to Isaac as if he had Child Leash and become Twice (or Thrice) as powerful depending on the Familiar, and also makes them shoot much faster than normal
>Mongo Baby will now prioritize using the strongest Familiar it can copy instead of using random bullets from all the current Familiars
>Big Beautiful Fly and Bob's Brain will no longer injure Isaac if he's caught in their explosions
>the effects of this Transformation aren't as noticeable on Lilith, as Incubus is unaffected by the Tumor Buff aside from gaining Triple Shot

Bob
>the creep is significantly buffed and deals damage along with poison
>Isaac gains immunity to explosions but doesn't heal from them
>if he still has regular tears, they now have a chance to explode into a puddle of poison creep, this same effect applying to Bombs and having a 100% Chance to happen with Bob's Brain, Bob's Head and Ipecac
>if Isaac can't hurt an enemy with his bombs due to an unfortunate combo like Butt Bombs VS Dingle, the creep will last longer and deal more damage over time
>if Isaac has a Leech and/or Lil' Charger, they become much more powerful and Lil' Charger attacks on its own like the Leech
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Are there any players worth watching?
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Can anyone tell? Why do i have dark bum? It just appeared out of nowhere.
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just became guppy on a lost run with holy mantle got 2 guppy items on a sac room in sheol

should i take the nail with me or guppy's head

my damage is dogshit
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>>121916208
Cambian Conception gives you a perma familiar (i think) once you get hit enough times. Or is it only for the floor?
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>>121916364
it's permanent, for the rest of the run
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>>121916208
You gave birth

Congratulations
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>>121916431
Oh shit, that's better than I thought. Now Friend Box just needs a 3 room charge and Liliith will be an actually fun character.
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>>121916605
4 rooms is still strong. Having 20/20 (or better) for every boss is strong as fuck. Lilith is easily better than at least half the roster right now.
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>>121916703
Yeah, she's certainly the new Judas in that even though I have all her Unlocks she's still fun to play as from time to time.
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why is she so perfect?
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>The game crashes and now I can't continue that run

Guess I was eating my steak too quick.
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>>121867281
Who /MewgenicsDay1Pirate/ here?

Yes i'm mad
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>>121916990
>implying mewgenics will ever come out
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>>121916878
>that face
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/trash/
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>>121917079
>/tumblr/
actually I found it on reddit
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>tfw undefined no longer teleports you to the error room if you're on the chest
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>>121880568
The Flesh
>starts with max hearts, same stats as Isaac except 4 damage
>regular hearts do not appear, can only regain health via items like Breakfast
>stats other than Luck cannot increase

So bullshit Edmund might actually take this idea.
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>>121917157
then go back and stay there
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Does gnawed leaf work with the guardian challenge?
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>XXXXL
>Soy milk + cursed eye
>1 hour and 21 minuts
>I explored every fucking room in every floor
>yes i'm a masochist
Funny fact , till the end the only damage bonus i had were criket's head , lump of coal and dead eye. thanks to spoon bender every shoot traveled a long distance and gained bonus damage with dead eye. i MELTED mom's heart.
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>>121918249
never mind, I wasted a perfect run with book of shadows for getting a useless item for this challenge
fug
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were the auto-turrets put in sacrifice and devil rooms just a "fuck you" to anyone who tries playing eggmund's super special snowflake character
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>>121919293
I haven't seen those, but yes. Savor that steak.

also it really pisses me off that they didn't fix sacrifice rooms. they're so fucking pointless.
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>>121919364
>Edmund says he's going to make Sacrifice Rooms useful
>mfw he doesn't and they're still completely fucking useless
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>>121919364
i meant the demon things that are inexplicably tanky, fire 3-5 shots in a row, and have the ability to literally dodge your shots
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>>121919682
oh yeah fuck those little demon fuckers. Finding one on floor 2 can be a huge cunt.
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Anyone have that video of the Ipecac combo where Isaac explodes infinitely in the womb?
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>>121920565
This?
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>>121921032
>arriba arriba!
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>>121921032
Is that a cheat or am I just incredibly stupid for not being able to see the combo?
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>>121921185
I doubt it's a cheat at all but I can't think of the combo either beyond Ipecac and Pyromaniac.
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>>121921185
Soy Milk Ipecac with incredibly low range somehow?
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>doing brains!
>find mom's knife in a devil deal
>thank fuck
>grab it
>get literally nothing

well shit I guess it no longer counts as a non-tear item.
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>>121921032
Yes! Thanks anon
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>>121921185
Or, actually, maybe this is it;
Ipecac + Dr. Fetus with very slow tear speed and range, the shots barely move and therefor hit the player.
Explains why the player doesn't heal from his shots, but isn't hurt from them, as Pyromaniac would heal. Dr. Fetus + Ipecac make you immune to your own explosions from the bombs.
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>>121921185
It's dr.fetus, ipecac, and soy milk. fetus+ipecac makes you bombs explode instantly without hurting you
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ayyy
rebirth is bretty fun so far
so smooth
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>>121901478
it is possible to maneuver between the spikes and the rock without taking damage
don't tell Edmund
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>>121921990
Slow down, friend. You might choke on all that steak.
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>>121921990
Afterbirth or are you transitioning from Original Isaac?
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>>121921990
>fun
TRIGGERED
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>>121921990
>the old scythes

RIP
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>>121886102
it stays invincible while shooting at it
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>>121922123
was going to go for 100% wrath achivements but only got to around 70% and said fuck it, bought rebirth only
great times
save feature is a steaksend
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>>121922335
It is probably best to start off with Rebirth. Jumping head first into Afterbirth will fuck with you.
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>>121922743
This. At the very least, unlock all the characters aside from The Lost and get adjusted to the items and mechanics.
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>>121922743
I honestly don't even know if Afterbirth was worth it. A lot of things turned out to be underwhelming for me.

The fucking steak is under cooked, take it back Edmund.
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>WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH WAAH WAAH WOA WAAAH AHHH

SHUT THE FUCK UP
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>>121923202

>wanting your steak well done

I bet you mod your steak too.
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>>121923679
He won't until you turn off your filter, faggot.
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>>121923960
Edgy.
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>>121923679
He's repeating his own name just like a real porkymon would
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which one?
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okay what the everloving fuck
is it a known bug that satan won't take damage from lilith with ipecac because this is bullshit
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Item effects?
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>>121924294
top
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>>121924201
And I'm anon, nice to meet you.
Now turn off that fucking filter.
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>>121923960
>there are people on this general, RIGHT NOW, who think the left one looks better

no wonder eggmund won't listen to this retarded community
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>>121924439
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>>121924337
For some reason, Satan is immune to explosives.
Have fun if Ipecac is your only method of damage!
>Select all images with Steak.
>mfw
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>Get placebo + luck up pills
>Find explosivo
>ALL of my shots are sticky bombs
>Can't complete a room in the womb because the worms keep burrowing down before my bombs explode

I want off of Mr. Eddy's Wild Steak
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>>121924370
>angels, demons and satan no longer do damage
>angel/demon rooms no longer spawn
>inflicts daze on contact
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>>121924573
haha fug
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>>121924573
>antigrav
I'm sorry anon
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>>121881395
Wait till you find Incubus in a devil deal. You may now actually fire tears. There, won run.

I'm also told that Sad Bombs are fucking glorious if you can get your hands on them.
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>>121924562
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>>121924789
>waaa waa this person doesn't understand why I play without necessary quality improvements
>must be bait! there's no way I'm retarded!

did somebody poop on your eyes?
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>>121924562
The original BoI's graphics looked better, but I think that was because those were freely scalable vector graphics. That's what made them so smooth.

Rebirth's graphics are deliberately less detailed. It's a stylistic choice on Edmund's part (that I really dislike).

That filter gives you the worst of both worlds: it tries to emulate the original's smoothness but makes everything end up looking blurry and jagged instead.
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>>121925019
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\>>121925086
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>>121925019
>necessary quality improvements
>ayy lmao muh shitty filters are necessary for muh experience
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>>121925210
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>>121924513
Why the fuck would I do that?

>>121924562
I don't care about pixelart games, but I largely prefer the look of the original BoI, so I of course use the filter.
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>>121925246
>ayy lmao muh shitty filters are necessary for muh experience
>I also play games from 2015 in 320x240 windowed mode on a black and white CRT
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>>121924562
I'm sorry.
I know this is bait, but I have to let you know, that ed himself called everyone who asked for a filter whiny pussies.
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>>121925019
>necessary
if you're gonna bait the least you can do is attempt to not be obvious
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>>121880490
Fuck it, just hack the character files to give the lost dead cat and holy mantle at start. Just avoid the temptation to also give him pyromaniac... and god head... and stop watch...
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>>121925510
>>121925575
>this person disagrees with me
>probably bait, there's no way I'm actually wrong and a fagot
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>>121925648
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>mfw troll bombs
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are the fucking steam times going up at random?
I was at 140 hours two hours ago, now I'm at 151.
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>>121924562
It does
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>>121925843
It's because you had a filter on.
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>>121925917
Edgy as fuck.
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>>121925917
of course I had the filter on, everybody with more than zero brains turns this necessary improvement on

the game looks like garbage without it

do all of you have 10" monitors or something? are you shit-sighted?
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>>121925843
>dying to troll bombs
>in an empty curse room
>didn't even pick up dead cat
Filter players, everybody.
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>using filters

lmfao
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>>121926032
no anon, you just suck.
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>>121925843
alt f4 scum and be done with that trash character already
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>>121926096
I died because speed down made me so fucking slow that I couldn't avoid the bombs

also
>seriously thinking that pixelated garbage looks good
shovel knight did it right, eggmund didn't
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>>121926153
Contrary to your little simple-minded opinion, there are more than one Anon in this thread that uses filters.
>>
A proper drawn art direction would have been great but if you think blurry pixels look better than regular pixels you are dumb as heck.
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>>121926076
>necessary improvement
There it is again.
Are you even going to try to hide the fact you're literally the only person in this general, no, in the whole BoI community who thinks filters look anything above shit?
Even the people over at plebbit think they're shit, and that alone would make anyone conscious of how shit their taste is.
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Fuck you Eggmound, just patch the announcer and Ghoul bug already.
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>>121926334
that doesn't make you less shit.
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>>121926334
actually, everyone in this thread uses filters, except this retarded shitposter:

>>121926153
>>121926121
>>121926096
>>121925917
>>121925759
>>121925575
>>121925510
>>121925295
>>121925246
>>121925210
>>121925086
>>121925019
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>>121926381
Sure, whatever you say.
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>>121925843
Mega troll bombs must have been buffed in Afterbirth. They used to have a shorter fuse, but now they will extend it at will if they're near you, just so they can get closer. You can no longer just get into a corner and hope they blow up before they reach you.
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>>121926365
i like filters

>>121926448
i was >>121925210 but i just like sharing my bait folder
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>>121926365
>Even the people over at plebbit think they're shit,
it's because edmund said it was shit

we can draw two conclusions from this:
1. filters are good because reddit think they are shit only because eggmund mcmuffin said it
2. fuckmund mcbutthurt can't be trusted
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>>121926206
maybe you should've picked up that dead cat unless speed down also affected your brain irl tbqh family
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>>121926448
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>>121926365
>plebbit
Who gives a shit, besides you?
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>>121926556
>muh contrarianism!
i bet you converted over to christanity the second atheism became associated to neckbeards and fedoras too faggot
>>
Concerning the filter, let me repost the poll I saw here yesterday:
http://strawpoll.me/5963599
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>>121926448
I don't. After like three years in Pokemon General nothing seems bad enough in comparison to filter.
>>
the Haunt now plays the afterboss music when you kill you first Lil Haunt, then resets when you kill the second and the third and resets again when you kill the boss itself.
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>>121926692
>he thinks using plebbit as a point of measurement = caring about them
I'd attach a bait image to this post but I can't post images that have already been posted, and you're certainly not worth the effort to get more.
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>>121926959
>having your bait folder this small
>>
about the filter, can we at least agree that while the in game filter is shit, this would be MUCH better, and edmund is a retard for not doing that from the start ?

http://cleanisaac.weebly.com/
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>>121926696
>muh contrarianism!
i bet you turned off the filter the second /v/ started hating on pixel art

>>121926796
according to the results, the majority of this general is retarded
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>>121926959
>bait
Ok, meme-spouter.
You sure have proven yourself worthy to /boig/ by being who you are.
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>>121927051
nah
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FUCK Health Down pills.
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>>121926796
The fuck is this supposed to mean?
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>>121927207
>implying I need to prove myself to the literal 3 subhumans in this general who are loud as fuck about their ugly-ass filter
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>>121927236
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>>121927325
it means that there are people on this general, RIGHT NOW, who like being contrarian by saying low quality sprites look good
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>>121927430
Yeah it is
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>>121927514
oh so you're actually retarded

carry on then
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>>121927598
>that retarded shading on the teeth in the remake
>that retarded shading in general on the remake
Why do you have such piss poor taste
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>>121927598
>not agreeing with muhh opinions!
>must be retarded!
>no way I can be!
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>>121927714
funny you say this considering you're the one who called bait when someone disagreed with you
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this entire thread right now
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Maggy is my favorite character
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>>121927828
Actually, it was me, anon.
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>>121927907
Wow, that image looks like it came right out of non-filtered rebirth
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>>121927980
She sucks and she's just Isaac in a wig

and fat
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>>121927980
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>121927907
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>>121927051
I'd say it's a step in the right direction.

>can we at least agree that (...) edmund is a retard for not doing that from the start ?
I mean he's an artist first and foremost, who are we to argue his artistic vision.
But yeah, vectorized Flash gfx > faux 8-bit gfx. That guy is doing the Lord's work.
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>>121927410
>>implying
Ok, meme-spouter, keep on spouting, I'm out of this worthless argument.
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>>121928128
>I mean he's an artist first and foremost, who are we to argue his artistic vision.
yeah but his art is video games, not graphics
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>>121928064
>HUR DUR FUCKING FAGGOT HOW DARE YOU FAGGOT HAVE DIFFERENT FAGGOT FUCKNG FAGGOT LISTEN FAGGOT HOW DARE YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS ONIONS ON ME FUCKING FAGGOT LIKE WHAT THE SHIT IS WRONG WITH YOU HUR DURRRRR FUCKING GAMER GATE SJW FAGGOT HOW SHIT BAIT FAGGOT LOL FUCKING 2DEEP4U HONEY HOW YOU GET SO FLY FAGGOT LIKING MAGGY INTO >>>/TRASH/ IT GOES FAGGOT GO BACK TO REDDIT FAGGOT LOL 2 SPOOKY FOR YO GRANDADDY FAGGOT SHUT UP FAGGOT GET BETTER TASTE OR SOME SHIT GO BACK TO TUMBLR YOU FAGGOT LOL 2 FAGGOT 4 U I'LL FUCKING PUNCH YOU BRUV KILL YOURSELF UNDERTALE GOTY2015 THE PHANTOM PAIN YOU FEEL IT BOSS
wow
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>>121928128
>faux 8-bit
You're a fucking retard, aren't you?
Isaac Rebirth is 16-bit, not 8-bit. There's absolutely nothing that implies Edmund was trying for 8-bit
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>>121924562
The filter makes Isaac look concave instead of convex
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>>121928250
Nah he's more like a chef
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>>121928294
Whoops, I should be euthanized. My mistake.
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>>121928301
wow, I didn't know filter-haters knew hard words like concave and convex!
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>>121928217
>TACTICAL RETREAT
you sure showed him
>>121928276
nice job sperging out harder than the guy you quoted

i've seen MMO generals with more quality than this cesspit of a general
>>
is it worth it to buy rebirth now at 40% discount and wait for a sale on afterbirth? Is afterbirth forever fucked? Should I just pirate the pre-nerf version?
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>>121928217
>mad at greentext
>on 4chan
>>
>this thread right now
>>>/trash/
>>
New thread when?
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>>121928580
>Is afterbirth forever fucked?

No one knows, but Smegmund

>Should I just pirate the pre-nerf version?

Probably yes
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>>121928217
>being triggered by greentext on 4chan
Holy shit, can a single person possibly make the fact they came from plebbit any more obvious?
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>>121921032
I've had that once. Dr. Fetus, Ipecac, a lot of Luck Ups and Libra, plus a bunch of other stuff I forgot
>>
>all this shitflinging just because of filterfags

baka desu
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I beat the Hush and Dark Room with the Lost.

Stay determined my friends. I believe in you. Believe in yourselves.
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>>121928487
>Projecting this hard

The game was designed with pixels in mind, unless you're >>121927051 trying to recreate the sprites from scratch it looks significantly worse than what was intended and you have to be blind in order to not understand why

Honestly as long as the sprites are as detailed as Rebirth, pixels or no pixels, it would still be miles better than the lopsided bodies of the original

Or those awful, awful fucking backgrounds
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>>121914289
The only thing I hate about Hush is the fact that Edmund has added HM Hush and Greed to the list of requirements for unlocking the Godhead, effectively punishing players who haven't unlocked it before. Really the only way to complete the fight is to cheese it Gnawed Leaf or get Mantle and and OP survival build. Both involve a lot of reseting and little to no fun.
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>>121929497
>>121929497
>>121929497
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>>121881190
Go find a bomb.

Let your bob's head charge.

Bomb the rocks into the pit.

Bomb the greeds

Congrats!
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