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We don't have an official steamgroup. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steamgroup, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, November 8th:
1644 – The Shunzhi Emperor, the third emperor of the Qing dynasty as the first Qing emperor to rule over China.
1898 – The Wilmington insurrection of 1898, the only instance of an attempted coup d'état in American history.
1917 – The People's Commissars give authority to Vladimir Lenin, Leon Trotsky, and Joseph Stalin.
1923 – Beer Hall Putsch: In Munich, Adolf Hitler leads the Nazis in an unsuccessful attempt to overthrow the German government.
1939 – In Munich, Adolf Hitler narrowly escapes the assassination attempt of Georg Elser while celebrating the 16th anniversary of the Beer Hall Putsch.


>News
HOI4 - DD 32
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-32nd-development-diary-6th-of-november-2015.890172/

EU4 DD 05/11
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-november-5th-2015.890020/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/


# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[EU4] - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.3] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Liangmod V0.1
https://www.mediafire.com/?fm7kgwo9m83yqxu

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.1.7 - 20/08/2015
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.4
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V6
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Mish Mash Map Mod
https://mega.co.nz/#F!rItzBSoL!cRR-s9OTOJbJUht4hnAw3w

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old thread >>121640658
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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2nd for
WHAT DO /GSG/?
VOTE NOW
http://poal.me/e5x5pr
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>fighting proxy wars against Aragon by using Hungary to strengthen Austria against the French-Pole menace bit by bit
GRAND STRATEGY
Feel bad for the magyars though, should go back to removal as well.
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Threadly reminder that EU4 did nothing wrong.
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>>121725061
>actually playing EU4
m8 come on, you're taking this meme too far, just uninstall already
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>>121725424
I want to but theres no better other game in this time period.
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>>121725061
How come you don't own all of asia minor yet lad?
It's 1509 in my knights game and I'm almost as big as you?
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>>121724695
fugggg DDDD:
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aggressive expansion is just a number
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>>121725726
Fucking hell, I told you to withdraw. You just had to listen.
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>>121725726
Fucking told you pal
Why didn't yuo lisen
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first for male islamic slaves
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Give me a character to play in Geheimnisnacht /gsg/.

Already done a Ostland gameplay and one with a border prince in the south of the Empire.
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>>121725629
First common sense game, tried to see if using my mana to focus on developing varieties of shit is worth it over focusing on tech (was trying to create Empire of Serbs and Greeks by making them an accepted culture early but it uses up too much mana), its not, it fucking sucks when used this way and paradox is clearly not thinking this shit through. Should've waited til Cossacks comes out so I can properly do my Empire of Serbs and Greeks. There needs to be some better way to spread development, right now its a boring to use mechanic.
Reminds me, why the hell is there such a tiny variety of events in EU4? Its been out for years now but it has the same event variety CK2 vanilla had and its base game still sucks compared to V2.
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>>121725629
First common sense game, tried to see if using my mana to focus on developing varieties of shit is worth it over focusing on tech (was trying to create Empire of Serbs and Greeks by making them an accepted culture early but it uses up too much mana), its not, it fucking sucks when used this way and paradox is clearly not thinking this shit through. Should've waited til Cossacks comes out so I can properly do my Empire of Serbs and Greeks. There needs to be some better way to spread development, right now its a boring to use mechanic.
Reminds me, why the hell is there such a tiny variety of events in EU4? Its been out for years now but it has the same event variety CK2 vanilla had and its base game still sucks compared to V2.
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>>121726532
>>121726424
fug
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>>121726532
>>121726424
What's up with the doubleposting lately? What did hiroshimoot do?
anyway I have no answers lad, I wish it were different too
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>>121726532
>>121726424
What's up with the doubleposting lately? What did hiroshimoot do?
anyway I have no answers lad, I wish it were different too
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>>121725629
First common sense game, tried to see if using my mana to focus on developing varieties of shit is worth it over focusing on tech (was trying to create Empire of Serbs and Greeks by making them an accepted culture early but it uses up too much mana), its not, it fucking sucks when used this way and paradox is clearly not thinking this shit through. Should've waited til Cossacks comes out so I can properly do my Empire of Serbs and Greeks. There needs to be some better way to spread development, right now its a boring to use mechanic.
>Reminds me, why the hell is there such a tiny variety of events in EU4? Its been out for years now but it has the same event variety CK2 vanilla had and its base game still sucks compared to V2.
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>>121726912
>>121726786
Anon I cant tell if this was accidental but if it wasn't, good job, your joke was pretty good.
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>>121726912
>>121726786
I'm seeing double, 4 Krusty's
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>>121726937
Nice try, was no implication sign in either of the 2 previous posts.
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>>121727107
>implication sign
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Why do HRE countries never add new territory to the HRE? Why do countries that conquer HRE territory never remove them from the HRE? Why do pretty much no countries ever try to join the HRE? Why does no reform except for the first 2 ever pass? Why is paradox so shit?
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>>121727575

Because coding a decent AI is too much work. You're supposed to be playing multiplayer.
Please buy Hearts of Iron 4
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>>121727575
But it's what happened irl, hre princes tried to keep as much of their territories as they could out of the empire
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So as a historical relative, what the fuck is the monthly autonomy change supposed to represent? Some guy randomly changing one or two things on each paper every few months in hope of no one noticing?
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>>121727575
I think that hbappens in order to prevent Europe from becoming the HRE.
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>>121728176
better than Europe becoming france.
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>>121727575
>Why do HRE countries never add new territory to the HRE?
There is not really a benefit to add HRE territory other than to please the emperor.
>Why do countries that conquer HRE territory never remove them from the HRE?
Not sure. Maybe they don't want to piss off the emperor?
>Why do pretty much no countries ever try to join the HRE?
No one really likes the HRE desu.
>Why does no reform except for the first 2 ever pass?
So they game doesn't always end up with HREblob.
>Why is paradox so shit?
Because they're the only ones who make this type of game.
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>>121727979
why does he look like he has cancer?
what have you done, gsg?
WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?
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>>121728408
But anon you don't realize
He was born in it, molded by it
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>>121728647

If I don't buy HoI4, will he die?
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Texas is now Poland
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>>121728731
It would be extremely painful.
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>>121728767

>19.5% polish
>15% irish

Nuke it.
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>>121728767
Does any of you lads remember the California immigrant game that an Anon posted a few months ago? It had even more Poles.
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>>121728826

He's a big shlomo
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>>121729026
4u
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>>121728767
changeowner all your provinces to Poland and tag switch to them
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>>121728767
Add them as a secondary culture
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>>121729145
Better yet he should write a decision to change into NowaPolska.
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>>121729330

Some dude already did that.

>/gsg/ in charge of originality
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How the hell do I claim a bloodline? I am playing as a breton in Elder Kings.
I own wayrest, I Imagine I should be able to claim a gardner bloodline.
I picked an ambition that asks me to claim a bloodline, btw.
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goddamn brandenblob is fun
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLW3G-b2gWw

Reminder that realism is not a meaningful argument.
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>>121729751
Could you stop shilling for your shitty video?
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>>121729719
silly me
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Why are there no conventional alliances in CK2?
I have thought about it but I want to see what you lads think about it.
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>>121729917

>eu4
>fun

stop liking what i dislike, faggot.
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>>121729859
you mean this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLW3G-b2gWw

??
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>>121730231
Yes, this one. Could you please stop posting it?
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>>121730120

Because realism is not a meaningful argument.
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>>121730348
i will post it two more times and never again after that
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>>121730525

No, you won't, nigor.
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Why is Belgium allowed to be the warleader of anything
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>>121730849
>that flag
>madagascar with a spear inside of it

literally who
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>>121728910
Yeah it even had Czech, Polish and Irish uprising events due to how many there were.
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>>121730849
That's a really lopsided Great War.
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Go Forth Out Of Thy Country
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>conquered Sicilia then Lotharingia
>fucked the daughter of the abbasid caliph
>is the next pope
>has a cool beard
pretty based
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Is there a way to have the majority of your army composed of mages and battle mages in Elder Kings(a culture that has a lot of mages).
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>>121730849
I'm guessing that those 1k troops on the left side are all Perfidious Albion?
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>>121731231
no
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r8
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>>121731592
Nothing any of us hasn't seen literally a thousand times before, meme harder next time friendo.
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how do i go tribal > merchant repub? I meet all the conditions except for [x] have a port in capital

what the heck does this mean
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>>121731592
I like it, then again I love all blobs.
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>>121731592
>no French North Africa
>no independent Poland
0/10 wouldn't Napoopan with
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>>121725726
>This event description
This is getting VIET tier
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>>121731870
As soon as I get into a great war against Germany, Poland will be freed. Don't worry.
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>>121731231
>fucking twelve minutes long
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>>121732330
But there's only Gdansk left in Germany, most of Polish land is owned by Russia.
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When playing as a Visigothic character in CK2, specifically in the Iberian Region, will I have a chance to change my culture to Castillian?
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>>121732131
honestly why do asians look so terrible in ck2?
>inb4 they look terrible irl
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Which traits would emulate a non christian priest-warrior in CK2
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>>121732769
they look terrible irl
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poles did it again
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>>121732645
>playing Charlememe
But yeah you just need to hold the crown of Castille.
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>>121732769
Mongols and Indians look pretty gross in real life desu senpai
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>>121731592
>not second in industry
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>>121733185
Thanks bruh
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Why do I never see those rap battle memes posted anymore? I made like 4 and have a folder of 20+ it's a waste desu.
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>>121734635

Go post them on /his/. They love that stuff on there.
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>>121734805
I did
>>>/his/173686
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>>121732561
Silesia m8
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>>121734805
>:^)
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>>121734635
>20+
Pls upload them
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>>121734887
Silesia was never Polish after 1300.
t. Pole
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>>121734921
Wait I got it wrong I counted them, I have 43.
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>>121732769
More like
>why does everyone look so terrible in CK2
Real Arabs don't have pubic hair beards
Real white people on't all look like downies
Real Southern Europeans don't have all have jaundice.

>>121735037
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Can Germany do it? They fight for

independent Poland
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>>121735116
>43
Ok, now I really want these memes in my computer.
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>>121731592
11/10 French Borders
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>>121735294
Most likely, yeah. There is a reason Germany is a meme on /gsg/. They are broken AF. It took twice that IRL to beat them.
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>>121734635
post folder pls I only have 5
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>>121735275
>that pic
Wait, are you trying to refute my argument? I'm talking about real life, not a shitty vidya made by Parakuks.
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>>121735294
First great war right? Probably not, you should intervene that war
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TEXAS IS FREE
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>>121735751
TEXAS ES BRETESH
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What's the best Vicky 2 mod? There's anything like VIP in that game?
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>>121732852
Come on lads
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>>121735927
HPM is objectively the best
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>>121735927
Waidmod, basically an improved robmod. Good luck finding the download though, it's creator is secretive as fuck for some inane reason.
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>>121735751
>he didn't annex confederate territory
why
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>>121736132
Murica too strong.

September 20th is a new national holiday in Texas
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>>121735751
>doesn't include Oklahoma
>disgusting "L" jutting out into the US
Absolutely terrible, lad
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>1936 start
>want to take Shanxi as Communist China before Japan invades
>can't because of the fucking threat mechanics even though I have cores there

Man, fuck Neutrality.
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>>121736412
then ally with them and beat the shit out of Mexico. It's time to get new pretty lands for those poor immigrants.
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>>121735653
say no more senpai
http://imgur.com/a/55w7m
Here's one of the webms I was unable to post
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>>121736982
Mexico is in US' SoI unfortunately. I need more immigrants, then I'll be able to wreck some shit
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>>121736725
noneutrality lad
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>>121737119
b-but it's cheating senpai
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>>121737115
I had one game were of texas in vicky 1 were I set it so my population doubled every month. It was the funniest game ever. By 1840 my pop was higher then chinas.
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>>121737115
yeah, that's the problem with Texas. Amazing country but you need a lot of luck in your game.
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>>121737548
Ello me mates!
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Free states of America is in the core game of Victoria 2 or it's part of a mod?
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total penetration
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fucking franks, you were supposed to invade Gaul not Germany.
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>>121737230
it's not cheating when you do it to fix the game
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>>121734635
it's because they aren't funny
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>>121737668
>intermarum Brandemburg
W E W
E W E
W E W
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How to build a navy as Italy? I tried building a second fleet of battleships and light cruisers (6 and 6), then built a bunch of naval bombers to support them/bomb malta's port to whittle down the brits, but I've lost all but four of my battleships and most of my screens. I'm building carriers now but it'll be another 2 years before I have a full 6 and 6 capital-screen fleet, though I can send out 3 carriers and light cruisers in about a year.
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>>121735689
But I'm playing a shitty vidya made by Parakuks, and thus it's relevant to whether SIlesia is Polish clay in that shitty vidya made by Parakuks.
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>>121738460
Well then just changeowner Opole and Katowice to them. Borders are gonna be hella ugly with Opole tho.
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>>121737753
What start date did you use?
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>>121737668

Now do the same to the west side
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What are the odds that Mexico sells more than just southern Arizona in the Gadsden Purchase in HPM?
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>>121739038
476
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I'm getting a ton of weird bugs this game.

>some countries are unable to build anything because their market AI is set to never buy anything
>anytime a crisis erupts into a war it immediately ends in a white peace
>anytime I go to war, whether I started it or I was called into another war, all my allies that are not in the war break their alliances with me, seemingly because they get the -200 "current wars" modifier as though we were forming an alliance, not maintaining one

What the fuck is happening lads.

Also, Ezo Republic has just been a puppet of Japan and never got fully annexed.
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>>121739162

>HPM

0%
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This is definitely going to end in some stupid shit.
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just remembered I put Malagasy along with Australian and being in the Americas in the +400% immigrant attraction modifier for a failed playthrough I was making ages ago
do I let them win?
do I delete that line from the immigration modifiers?
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Does Japan gain cores on Taiwan by event in HPM?
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HPM guy: if you're here, are you still planning on making the mod less railroaded in the future by adding more ahistorical options for events?
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HPM guy are you here?
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>>121740797
Let them win, long live the res publica!
And no, don't delete that bonus.
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>>121741050
How to trigger hpm: the post
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HPM Lad any though on some kind of system to have modifier to represent the different kind of colonization the nations used.
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>>121741203
Mass unemployment, here I go!
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>>121735730
>1874
>Great War
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>>121740278
>8th industry
>3 million in reserve
>not spamming factories eveywhere with state capitalism
Step up your game lad, it's easy to become the third largest industrial power as Italy
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why is the andine federation forming in literally every HPM game i play
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I guess he just wasn't dank enough for my memes.
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>>121739298
Ezo being a puppet is a choice japan can make when deciding what to do with them
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What are the best steps if I wanted to get US population to ridiculous levels/industrialize really strongly?
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>>121743927
press the unpause button
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>>121743927
You go for Partido Socialista
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>>121743759
>playing a meme mod
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>>121744158
what can i say, i like memes
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>>121743927
Partido Socialista
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>>121744273
Then
>complaining about memes in a mememod
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>>121743927

Declare war on everyone in Europe
Occupy everything
???
profit
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At what point does economy crash due to pops? I'm guessing that endgame there is about 1billion pops so maybe if you went until 2billion it would be unsustainable
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Wow, the Franks sure are doing a good job of uniting the germanic peoples under one flag.
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>>121744924
>there are 1 billion pops in the endgame

try in 1800, bud
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>>121745029
>552
Why? It wouldn't even make sense for the CK2 system, until christianization those "countries" were just lumps of people who claimed everything from this tree to that rock.
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>>121745183
pops*4 gives world population yes?

so if the endgame - 1936 - had 2billion pops, 2bill*4 gives 8 billion which is roughly today's population and this is still after immense baby booming and shit. 1billion endgame might even be too big.
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>>121744924
the economy crashes because your farmers and laborers are unemployed due to rgo efficiency, so they can't afford the massive amount of goods your factories are churning out, and your craftsmen can't even meet their everyday needs for some reason even with maximum minimum wage and insanely low taxes. even clerks can't meet their everyday needs under the same conditions, and they're supposed to represent the well-off middle classes. so your farmers and laborers can't buy goods produced by your factories, and your factory workers can't afford the goods either because for some reason they can only meet their life needs. the factories have no consumers, and close.
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>>121745183
Pops are only adult males dumbass
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>>121745457
But in what conditions does this happens?
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>>121745904
the lategame, where rgo efficiency drives your farmers and laborers into unemployment while your craftsmen and clerks are working in unprofitable factories producing shit that your people can't even afford
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>>121732131
I'm getting really sick of ck2
VOTE TO NAME MY DAUGHTER /GSG/
This the the last daughter naming
http://poal.me/w51xi6
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>>121746241
I actually never saw that happening, but it might be because I generally end up being the guy with most prestige, so everyone end up buying from me.
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>>121746241
I might even test this by giving all the provinces to one country and just letting it run.
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I wanna play a BR game of vicky, what should my goals be though? Doesn't seem there'll be much to do unless I go full retard and start blobbing in other continents.
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>>121747540
Unite South America.
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>>121746435
If only she didn't have a stutter
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>>121747701
>going full retard
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>>121747237
Actually I'm doing this now while HPM America guy finishes up since I need something to kill time.

Okay should I give every province to Russia, USA, or England?

Make everything a colony or civilized?

Touch the economy or just let the invisible hand guide it, should I max out reforms right off the bat?

Give me some base guidlines and I will make it happen.
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>>121747935
post europe
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>>121747952
That's literally the only interesting thing to do in South America and on top of that the borders are top tier.
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>>121748181
just like black ops 2!
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>>121748296
Kill yourself you fucking memester. You sound like you don't like imperialism.
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>>121748430
Hahaha! well austro-hungary'd my friend.
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>>121748661
What's next, are you gonna say 'lmao'?
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>>121748830
>>121748430
fuck off retard
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How do you want your China senpai ?
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>all my forefathers have done nothing but kill arabs and reclaim clay
>study law because it's interesting and i don't have to do laps around the hippodrome
>inherit the empire, but i'm pretty much incapable of doing anything but balancing the empire's budget
>my generals and vassals are pretty ok with that though
>don't let anyone get away with stupid bullshit against the law
>ensure every arab is executed (apparently this is the law now)
>give out extra money i don't really need to holy orders so they can kill more arabs
>not afraid to lie blatantly to people
>people call me 'the Good'
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>>121749030
You first, pal.
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>>121749087
fuck off retard
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I've never done a commie run in Vicky. Give me a fun cunt to do it with, preferably one that isn't reliant on industry so that I don't have to micromanage 50 factories.
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>>121749168
Are you going to say it the third time?
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>>121749270
fuck off retard
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>>121749270
fuck off retard
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>>121749331
>>121749410
You should really say 'kill yourself', because you sound exactly like /sg/.
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>>121749248

Russia
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>>121749462
fuck off retard
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>>121749487
Boring, but I've never actually done a Russia run before so it's worth a try I guess.
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>>121749559
I know I lost the very second I got into this chain of replies, I have to think over my every post and you just need to fill in the captcha, paste 'fuck off retard' and press enter. But don't think that will stop me from trying
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>>121747935
READY TO CONVERT
>>121748054
Map of Europe pre-conversion
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>>121749859

fuck off retard
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>>121750065
Ehh, why can't we all just get along? I was never mean to you.
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>>121749873
>hispania
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>>121750219

fuck off retard
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>>121750305
Seriously now, what are you even trying to accomplish?
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>>121750449

fuck off retard___________
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>>121750495
fuck off retard
Are you happy now? Is that what you wanted? If so then bravo, I've stooped exactly as low as you've been your entire life.
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I don't think I can remember ever seeing the AI actually pull off an invasion of the British Isles in Vichy. Not even when the Brits have been badly bloodied.
It's always I who end up having to try, if I even can.
It's getting really fucking annoying.
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>>121750686

fuck off retard
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>>121750808
fuck off retard
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>>121750805

That's because you're not using the Paradox approved Calais-Kent Strait DLC made by AI coding genius Wiz "the meme" Anward
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>>121750805
Well maybe you should stop playing a German Puppet and actually play France.
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>>121751114
>1940 - 1943 Vichy
>german puppet

I only have contempt for your ignorance
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>>121750805
Just make straits mayne.
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>>121750805
I saw some german minors invading it once.
German minors without sea access.
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>>121728767
>irish
>poles

AAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Can you become a GP as Switzerland in V2 without expanding? Or is it hit with the Saxony problem where they don't have enough regions?
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>>121751628
If they have at least 2 regions they can.
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>>121751628
No, one state nations can't become a GP.
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>>121751114
I've played France too many times.
Sometimes I just want to play the Ottomans, or something. And if for example me, Italy and France all ally in a war against Britain, and we beat them back in both Europe and Africa, I kind of want France to even try to fucking invade the Isles, especially if they've got the navy to pull it off.

It's not unique to Vichy though.
>play hoi3
>be argentine
>join the axis
>start to conquer shit
>the us declareds war
>safe forever, because central america is between us, and the us ai is too incompetent to stage a naval invasion of south america
I've legitimately played until the end date as Argentine, without any of the Allies staging a naval invasion of me. I didn't even bother to maintain a fleet.

>>121751486
I'm actually tempted to have a Calais - Kent straight, just to fuck with the Brits.
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>>121751628

Depends. Are you playing the mememod? Then no, they can't.
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>>121751826
Just NNM. So two regions, East Switzerland and West Switzerland.
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What the fug.
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>>121752145
Then they can :)
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>>121752145

Then you can.
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>>121749873
Conversion finished

Hispania is even worse
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>>121752438
Oh fuck.
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>>121752438

Show HRE
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>>121752438
could u not
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>>121752189
>>121752205
Industrial god Switzerland here I come.
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>>121752438
>denmark somehow manages to have good borders
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>>121752695
They own Stettin.
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After many attempts, I finally did it. Had no choice but to take unlawful territory when grabbing friesland, but France is now extremely strong ally.

Time to avoid antagonizing the rest of the HRE into attacking me long enough to form Netherlands.
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>>121752756
I see. They also own Sussex.
Shame, it was almost good.
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>>121752438
Play Thuringia and try to get back rightful German clay.
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>>121752438
Play the Hospitallers and unite the French lands.
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>>121752438
HRE Map

I don't know what to say
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>>121753664

Form France as Hospitallers
Fix Italy
Unite Lithuania
For last, pick a german minor, unite Germany and convert your land to german culture
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>>121753664

Truly an empire to rival that of Augustus
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Would Germany have won the second world war if it had more mana?
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Alright, I'm pretty much finished converting over. The only thing I am still considering doing is breaking up Russia because they are obscenely large compared to any other country. I may keep them like that though so they can function as a sort of end-game boss. What do you guys think? Keep in mind I am going to be converting this to Vicky 2.

Also, if people are interested, I can give summaries of what has happened.
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>>121754012
Duh. They could have cast Blitzkrieg more often.
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>>121754012
yeah they were searching for mana crystals in Norway but they couldn't harness the power of Norse paganism fast enough.
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>>121753664
>Spain is not the emperor
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>>121753664
Play Saxony and regain the lands that the motherless Spaniards stole from the Empire.
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>>121754178
>>121754178
>>121754178

This is so comfy you should make it a mod
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>>121754498
I may once I am finished if people show interest. It all depends on if I have the time.
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>dogs
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>>121754178
Give mongolia more of Siberia and release Ukraine.
Aside from that it's pretty gud
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>>121755158
Russia was formed by the Kievan branch of the Rurikids so releasing Ukraine wouldn't make sense. However, I may release a Novgorod and Muscovy. It would inevitably only slow them down, but I suppose that is something. One thing I've already done is make their eastern territories unaccepted culture pagans.

As for Mongolia, I want to leave Russia or another power some room to colonize.
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>>121755518
If you're gonna leave Russia as that, then at least let Mongolia be a big rival to it
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>>121753664

show culture map
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>>121754498
Seconding this. It is a super comfy world.
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So, how exactly does one break up an Arab superblob like the Seljuks?

I can defeat them in wars, but Holy Warring each individual duchy they have without incurring that prestige penalty will take forever, plus I'd rather a divided Turk state to manipulate rather than one that is constantly conquering my neighbors.
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Just finished a nice game of EU4 what do you think /gsg/
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Are there any V2 mods that let me fuck up a country I'm occupying?
Let's say that it's a Great War, and I'm playing Germany and invading Russia. I'm going to occupy a lot more land than I might take.
So it there any mod that allows me to (for a infamy cost) destroy factories, raze infrastructure, kill pops or otherwise fuck up these areas? War is devastating, on cities and populations.
Victoria II wars often feel like it's just a matter of redrawing borders, or maybe enforcing some nation-wide sanction that doesn't really affect the population.
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>>121756190
Make them gain Decadence and the whole thing will explode on it's own.
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>>121756234
>the knights
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>>121755846
The Seljuks and Karashar are both vassals of Mongolia, actually. The problem is, even when you combine the development of all of Mongolia and her vassals, its still much less than Russia. Russia is just way too developed compared to Mongolia. The only way to give Mongolia relatively equal power would be to either give them Asian lands (which I don't really want to do as I want a strong China to develop) or to break up Russia. I'm currently contemplating how to do the latter. How does pic related look? (Ignore the periods, I'm using custom nations to make the borders)
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>>121753664
>>121755870
Culture Map

help
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>>121756460

How would one go about making them gain decadence? Just siege the shit out of them in a war and never take "we surrender" as an answer?
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>>121756234
> AllahhaveMercy.png
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>>121757009
Jesus christ. I don't even know what to tell you to do at this point.

Make France? Otherwise play as a HRE memeber and restore the motherland.
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>>121757009
>Scottish Brittany
>French Spain
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What is fun about Victoria 2?
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>>121753664
Do you pretend to go up to DH/HoI3?
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>>121757403

Nothing. That's why /gsg/ is so obsessed with it. We're like /v/
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>straights of dover
>not actually a strait
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>>121757403
Industrializing

>>121758460
>straights
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>>121758460
they called it the straights of dover because it's a straight shot from england to france, not because it's a strait that should be crossable on foot like other straits
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>>121756234
>mexican kamchatka
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>18th century is coming around
>decide I should start colonising India
>take a look
>it's divided into three large blobs, two of which are allied with eachother and the neighbouring Persia blob
>the third is allied with a Chinese blob
every game
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>>121758460
Strait doesn't mean an army can walk over it wiz.
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>>121754178
Summaries and why is Frankish in the germanic culture group
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>reading the wikipedia article about the gardens of versailles
>one of the passages mentions damage from a storm at versailles and trianon
>mfw I'm reminded of the treaty of trianon

every fucking time
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>tfw Byzantines sack Venice before reintegrating it back into their empire.
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>>121757403
who the fuck is the guy with the funny hat and what he did?
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>>121759669

Bismarck
Ruined everything for everyone, alongside Willy
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>>121757403
building liquor factories and switching around clergymen foci, that's about it
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>>121757403

Pop pop pop watching pops pop
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tfw you're a proud Briton and you'd like to play as the United Kingdom in Victoria 2, but you can't because Britain was so dominant in real life that there's no challenge in it
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>>121757009
Army stats

Give me country and goal suggestions /gsg/
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>>121760369
You can release everything including Ireland and pretend it's a modern day simulator while you slide into obscurity.
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>>121760564
Unite France as the Hospitallers
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>>121760369
Norge, Colonize the New world, and wipe the Spaniards out of Germanica Proper.
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How come in some of the screenshots I've seen memeu4 players take where they own all of Europe as France or something, they're only able to have around 100k soldiers? That's a tiny number for a country spanning all of Europe.
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>>121760564

Unite the germanic people under one flag
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>>121760564
byzantium.
reform rome
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>tfw leddit is praising some guy for playing as Krakow changeownering all of Galicia-Lodomeria to himself and all of East Galicia to Russia
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>>121760564
Alba, remove Spain from Germany and Czechs
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>>121761848
If you don't like reddit so much why do you go there?
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>>121761848

>caring about reddit

Seems like you're the disgusting one.
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>>121761984
t. Memeth
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>>121761984
>>121762114
In all honesty, there's a couple of quite interesting playthroughs happening there
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>>121762117
Hardly. I don't like reddit either so I don't go there.
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>>121761848
He won the war against them and then changeownered
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>>121760564
VOTE FOR A GOAL NOW LADS
http://poal.me/fximbd
Minimum 15 votes on the poll before a goal is decided
>>121762360
Since I have no shame I went on leddit and he only got a white peace, he sperged out after and changeownered
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>>121760564
Saxony. Reclaim the Empire from Spain.
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>>121763001
you started eu4 now ? got tired of ck's shit eh ?
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>>121763462
he made it to 1444
>>121749873
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>>121763001
Shit, he only got a white peace? Dang dude
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Rate my OC
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>>121763681
Russia was winning the war, but since he declared it, Austria forced a white peace when they occupied his only province.
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In Victoria 2, is it possible to make it so that certain ideologies will only support certain political/social reforms, instead of just blanket support for adding and removing?
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Is it just me or is CK2 really shit?
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>>121759204
The Frankish is not the same as Old Frankish. Instead, its sort of a blended German dialect with a large French influence. Think of it sort of like the German version of English, which was a blend of Anglo-Saxon and Norman. Not a perfect comparison, but that's basically how it is.

As for summaries, well I guess I will start off with the Holy Roman Emperor, Lotharingia. I started off as Count Eudes Karling of Vermandois in 1066. From there, I slowly expanded in France until a major rebellion broke France apart. After I got independence, I joined the HRE. After a few generations, I was elected emperor. After that I expanded to take all of Northern Italy and France. Overall, the HRE didn't change much from OTL other than the inclusion of Northern France.

As for Iberia, the Navarran branch of the Jimenas was able to unite the Catholic kingdoms in Spain. For a while, they had the advantage and nearly kicked the Muslims out of Iberia. However, a Jihad called on by the resurgent Abbasid caliphate was able to defeat the Christians and reclaim most of old Al-Andalus. However, years of Christian rule has left a large majority of the Andalusian population Christian.

Britain happened pretty much spot on to OTL other than the unification of Ireland.

Scandinavia was pretty much in turmoil the whole game of CK2. Initially, Erik the Heathen was able to take the throne of Sweden and briefly establish a norse kingdom. However, they were promptly holy-warred and the kingdom collapsed. Later, Sweden reformed under the Stenkilling dynasty, who would go on to inherit Norway and conquer Finland via holy wars. Denmark was taken by a mix of conquest and inheritance.

In Eastern Europe, the biggest change was in Russia. While Poland and Lithuania remained relatively inactive (the latter converted to Orthodoxy in the 1100's), Russia was united by the Kievan branch of the Rurikid dynasty. A unified Russia proved to be a capable opponent to the later Mongol invasions. *continued
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>>121763907
Why didn't Russia become the War Leader?
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>>121763907
Actually, Russia kept the war going as there were other wargoals he didn't show, but the conquest of Galicia-Lodomeria was literally gone by a separate white peace.
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>>121764209
Neat, I like it
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Is there ever a reason to use another focus other than the +martial/+health in CK2?

It just seems really strong.
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>>121764045
Its not you
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>>121763816

8/10 to be honest, lad
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>>121763816
I laughed. Do you guys ever think that this kind of shit is funny to us and nobody else? Like most people you meet wouldn't even understand this pic.
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>>121764209
So autistic. Good job, man.
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>>121764856

Most people are retards who don't know anything about history past 1990.

>a triathalon?
>who are the hamburgers?
>whos countries flags are those?

that's how the average normie would respond to that pic.

in short, yes, its only funny to us
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>>121765058

>most people aren't autists who care about shit thats irrelevant to everyday life

fixed m9
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>>121764209
*continued* In the Middle East, Islam has suffered catastrophically due to the Crusades. Jerusalem and Egypt were both taken via Crusade. Syria was taken by the Byzantines (who are still ruled by the Doukids). The Crusades depleted the Seljuk Empire, who promptly fell into revolt. One of the revolts was led by a Zoroastrian Persian noble named Peroz. Due to the weakened nature of the Seljuks, Peroz was able to defeat the Turks and proclaim a new Persian kingdom. Afterwards, Islam was relegated to Iraq and Arabia, the former being Shia and the latter Sunni. While Iraq would fall to Persian invasion, Arabia, in the face of Christian and Zoroastrian opposition, was able to unify under the resurgent Abbasid caliphate.

In Central Asia, a large Mongol Empire controls the steppes. Under them they have Turkish and Khitan vassals, both of which had established kingdoms before the Mongol Invasion. The Mongols were not able to expand much farther than the Central Asian steppes due to the strength of a unified Russia and Zoroastrian Persia. Before the Mongols, a large Cumanian Empire had ruled. While they were defeated, a large Manichean/Cuman population still resides in the western-most portion of the Mongol Empire.

Finally, in India, the subcontinent was relatively isolated. Islam is completely absent from the subcontinent due to the weakness of Islam, so the religious split is instead between Hindus and Buddhists. Northern India has been consistently divided. Eastern India is for the most part united under the Palas. In the South, there was a brief Deccan Empire under the Kalyani Chalukya dynasty, which promptly fell apart after a few generations. The Kalyanis still possess some power in Central Indian, and the memories of their rule have not been forgotten ((they have cores over most of Southern India)), but larger powers like Maharastra have eclipsed them.
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>>121764856
us redditors have to stick together :)
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>>121765172

(You)
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>>121764856
My girlfriend used to think I was weird when I'd laugh at this sort of thing, but she thought it was funny that I was genuinely amused. She's gone.
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>>121765508
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>>121765508
Why did she leave?
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>>121765635
I left her.
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>>121765775

normies get out
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r8 my grosshispaniums in progress

slightly related do (HPM) carlist events ever stop? they're so annoying and not an actual threat
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>>121765989

>taking parts of occitain

they're not fucking basque or catalan you fucker
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>>121765989
>Spain level with Florida
Who the fuck designed this map projection
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>>121765309
Some other minor things I forgot to mention:
-Aquitaine is ruled by the de Bourgogne dynasty. They have Toulouse, Gascogne, and Bourbannais as vassals.
-Southern Italy is controlled by the Italo-Arabic Kingdom of Sicily. Although they speak a mix of Arabic and Italian, they are full blooded Catholics. The kingdom originates from a revolt against Norman rule in the early 12th century.
-The Maghreb is for the most part united under the Almoravid Sultanate. Only Tunisia, which was the target of a minor crusade, is not under their control.
-As stated before, Tunisia, as well as Libya, are under Italian Christian control. The former is under control of the Grand Dukedom of Tuscany while the latter is an independent kingdom ruled by a Italo-Arabic dynasty.
-The Abyssinian Empire under the Zagwe dynasty controls all of Ethiopia and Nubia. Somalia is dominated by the Abbasid caliph.
-Afghanistan is majority Buddhist and has remained independent for several centuries due to its formidable natural defense: mountains.
-Croatia and Serbia united in the 14th century. Serbians are Catholic.
-The Kingdom of Wallachia-Crimea controls most of modern-day Romania as well as Crimea.
-The Apostolic kingdom of Armenia became independent from the Byzantines and Seljuks during the times of the Crusades, but has since then fallen under the sphere of influence of the Byzantine Empire.
-The Kingdom of Georgia is divided between its Southern majority Georgian part and its northern majority Alan part. The Alans, who are orthodox like the Georgians, are seen as relative equals and given positions in Georgian courts.
-Due to major defeats, the Turks remained in Central Asia where they established the Seljuk sultanate of Turkestan.
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>>121763816
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>>121766312
Mercator.
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>>121766230
ok maybe i just wanna blob and become leddit
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>>121763001
Poll ended, since the voting number wasn't reached I will make one again later
Since uniting France as the Knights was on top I will vote for that in the next poll

I will end here for now
I sincerely hope all of you have a fulfilling and wonderful day
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>>121766561
as a 'strayan i dont get this
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>>121766520
>Southern Italy is controlled by the Italo-Arabic Kingdom of Sicily.
Interesting.

>Southern Italy
>White
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>>121766869
>France as Knights was on top
But it was tied with Reclaim Empire as Saxony. Just make a strawpoll for those two.
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>>121766881
DESIGNATED
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>>121763954
Anyone? ;_;

Also, what are the requirements to enact Prohibition again?
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>>121764437
Depends on what you want, really
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>>121767008
I didn't even notice the tie, I'll think about it lad.

I'll probably just flip a coin for the extra vote, I still want at least 15 votes for a goal
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>>121767179
Do the others get any good events which are worthwhile? Not dying and more troops is just really good.
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>>121763954
>is it possible to make it so that certain ideologies will only support certain political/social reforms

I... don't think so.

Perhaps you could try creating another category of reforms (I'm not entirely sure this is possible, but HPM does add that third category of reforms) and adding the reforms you want changed to that category, then changing how ideologies view that new category.
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>>121767371
Some offer to build cheap holdings, some help if you wife is a cheating whore
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>>121767619
Well my hope was to make it so that some Ideologies would support adding the "lower" reforms (such as Weighted Wealth) but not higher ones (such as Universal Voting), so I don't think that will work.
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Rate
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Playing HPM as the US. As soon as I select the Oregon Treaty compromise option, the dialogue window opens indicating the British have accepted for a split second, and then the game immediately crashes. This has happened twice so far.

Only other mod I have loaded is Country Colors.

Anyone able to help a lad out?
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>>121766881
An Australian and an Indian were arguing on /int/, the Indian made the point that Australians have shitty ISPs, so the Australian said at least their country has proper hygiene standards, then the Indian said we have streets specifically designated as non shitting streets, and argued that therefore all Australian streets were allowed to be shat in, but he missed the minor point that no other country in the world but India has streets designated for shitting in.
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>>121768316
Peter/10
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Never again am I going to play a full expansionist country that ignores infamy.

Those containment wars are just too much micromanagement for me to bother.
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>>121766312
I assume they moved Europe a little south in order to make some space at the top of the map so the player wasn't constantly bumping in to the top when he tried to center the map on Europe. Considering how much of the game is spent looking at Europe I'm not all that mad.
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>>121768838
It's so there isn't a massive fucking ocean below SA.

>tfw never be able to create mare afrikaner
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>>121768770
You played a handholding nation, blobbed as hard as you could, and you couldn't even make #1 GP.
Probably should just never again play V2 ever.
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>>121768402

>he fell for the HPM meme
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>>121768402
Did you try running without it, or manually firing the event?
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>>121769017
>wanting to become #1

Nothing matters after you've established perfect borders.

But seriously dude wtf just spam dreadnoughts
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Alright lads, alternate history time. What if the British actually hoped for revenge during the war of 1812, either by annexation of the whole United states or some other way, how would history differ?
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>>121769017
But it's _______fun
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>>121768770

>1700 industry as Japan
>conservashits
>#3

Embarassing s
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>>121769226
The British would've expended way too many resources for a rebellious colonial state that produced hardly anything in comparison to the Indian sub-continent. Napoleon would've taken the chance to invade Britain rather than forging into Russia. In fact, he would've had even less reason to invade Russia because the reduction of the British fleet centered in Europe would've alleviated the effects of the continental blockade. But seriously, they would've never done it because the colonies weren't worth shit at the time.
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>>121769642
>Napoleon would've taken the chance to invade Britain rather than forging into Russia.

I should have specified, this is post burning of the white house, Napoleon's army already froze in Russia and was being BTFO all across Europe.
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>>121768521
kek, thank you
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r8
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>>121769474
At the very least I kinda know how to play now, instead of being intimidated by the trade and economy screen then just shut the game.

I can only improve from there, r-right?
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>>121770205
Other than the Argie penis thrust it's great. Post cultures.
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>>121769823
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>>121770417
Not really lad, think about Andrew Jackson, I think there would have been another decade of fighting at least that would have crippled both.
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>>121770205
>Partido Socialista
Those are some aesthetically pleasing borders OP
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>>121770317
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>>121770417
Except the American Revolution never happened in Code Geass's timeline baka
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>>121770560
That's some good shit right there. Do you still have slavery?
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>>121770815
I do not. I got rid of it so I could have more immigrants.
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>>121771018
Wrong decisiom for the right reason, I'll allow it. Do you have any other land? You should get the British islands in the south Atlantic.
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>>121771413
I fought the former colonial overlords for some of their lands.
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>>121771870
Take Belgian Africa and the south Atlantic British islands (possibly free people Argentina in Falklands and south Georgia) and it will be perfect.
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My work in progress, Conquering Europe as Urbino.

http://i.imgur.com/CYbn4tF.jpg

Got a lot of vassals and satellite countries, and even France under union with me, but then i got bored and started a Genoa conquer of Asia, which is a little bit harder because the useless national ideas of genoa in terms of expansion and military, but i already got ottomans territories so is easier now taking the rest of asia as Genoa
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>>121772222
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Is there ANY way to protect myself against the constant raiding in CKII, this shit is so getting out of hand.

The way I understand it better walls and an increased castle level will only protect the loot bar but not against raiders being able to burn down your shit if you don't raise troops 24/7.

It is just really damn tedious.
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Fear the blob

I'm still terrified of jihad, so I'm relentlessly attacking the muslims whenever I can, truces considered.
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>>121773301
>truces considered

Literally why? All it does is lower Muslims opinions of you and lower your diplomacy, presumably you've reigned long and justly enough that diplomacy isn't an issue you can break whatever truces you like and Christians won't even care.
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>>121773301
>not capturing counties to restore empire
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>do nomad run
>end up reforming tengri paganism
>first time to play long enough for mongols to arrive
>mfw they keep breaking truces one after another after another
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>>121773435
Muh prestige.

>>121773618
>restoring the roman empire
>not staying as best empire
I'm a byzaboo.
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>Victoria 2
>research mana
>having to choose between new ships and stock markets

Explain how this is anymore realistic than EU4 please, lads.
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First time as Persia in vanilla.

Tried to destabilize Russia as much as I could through humiliation cb so they kept shuffling through revolutions. I was pretty neutral with GB though I tried to sphere India as much as I could, but I might consider facing them to free India in a final war.

How did I do /gsg/? Also, any tips?
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>>121774238
nice meme i just saw this on reddit too and was about to post it here but i saw you post it here so i'll just give you an upvote and move on :)
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>>121774284

Here's Europe
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>>121774383
Nice counter argument, it didn't quite convince me though, do you mind going over a few of the points you raised?
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>>121774538
what do you mean counter argument? i just said that i also saw this meme on reddit and was going to share it but then you shared it so i upvoted you?? lol
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Reminder that the man of gold had a heart just like you and me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw8n1YhHC7k
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>>121774631
Aah, that's much clearer, thanks lad!
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>>121774238
heh i said this the other day when people were getting mad about 'mana' in HOI4, vic fags get mad so easily
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>>121774238
Dedicated mana is fine. Undedicated mana is bad. You got a point that it is a bit unrealistic but at least your research mana doesn't impact your ability to lead.
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>>121777182
Fair enough, not really dedicated though seen as it does army, navy, commerce, culture and industry.
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>>121777449
>seen as
this is the meme i hate the most
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>play vicky 2 as chile
>interventionism
>interventionism
>interventionism
damn gommies better get their shit together 2tbh, I need to industrialise
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>>121777548
Huh, did I fuck up? English isn't my native language, my native language is yorkshure
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>>121778063
seeing as
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>Character dies by event
>Move dialog box down to the corner and keep playing so he lives
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>playing USA
>the year is 1936
>I have V-100 Commando Armored Cars
>I don't even have Shermans yet
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>>121778427
shouldn't have spent all your mana on armored cars baka
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>>121778348
ee by gum ah can speak proper good English nah a no me arse from me tit
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How do you upgrade tribal holdings to feudal in Winter Kings?
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>>121773135
Try bringing jesus to the heathens
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>>121773135
Fucking this. The moment I start a war I get one or two raider groups down the danube or around constantinople.

It's far from a threat, but it's an annoying distraction.
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>>121773135

you know the answer, anon.

deus vult
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Sup /gsg/.
I have EU IV complete edition (got it few months after launch) but I want to update it. Poorfag though. Is getting El Dorado and Common sense enough?\
The game changed very much since I've last played it, so I don`t even know if I get the new content or not. Some dlc's dl automatically, this I know.
Any advice?
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>be emperor of rome
>vassals pressuring me to press into italy, but I decide the turks are a bigger threat
>take up hunting as an ambition, i want to be a renowned general one day
>at age 17 lose my virginity to a witch in the woods
>invite her to stay at my court even through i'm betrothed to some other princess because why not
>get syphilis
>fug
>everyone hates me now
>vassals joining factions against me because they're female and hate great pox
>even a homosexual male figures i'm a shitty emperor because I have STDs
>literally go insane and decide to pretty much never be in constantinople, fuck those nobles
>sleep with anything that moves
>charge in head first to any battle
>people can't tell if it's just because i'm crazy or brave
>make sure to tax the fuck out of all those vassals who hate me because of my venereal disease

what am I doing with my life
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>>121782904
>emperor of rome
>doesn't even rule from rome
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>>121782904
you have the blood of the tiger
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deus vult
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>want to add a wargoal
>not enough jingoism mana
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chile? more like 5x speed until socialism is invented
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>>121784016
t. Joan
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>>121739298
This anon here, got bored of that campaign so I started a new one as the argies, but now I have the market glitch where my AI will never buy anything, meaning now I have to manually buy everything.

As you can see here, the automated market AI isn't buying any small arms even though I have infantry in production. It's not that my country can't access any of the resources, if I set it to manual I can but it just fine.

What is this bullshit and how do I do I fit it?
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>>121784016
event 4407
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I've never finished a campaign in any gsg except once in eu4
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I've only done it once in EU4 as Byzantium and once in Vicky 2 as The USA
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>>121784752
>cheating
george_costanza_in_the_batting_cages_looking_condescending.jpg
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>>121784752
t. shen
>>
I'm only 9 years old ban me for 10 years I dare you

Also put (user has been banned for this post) on my post

Mods are weak faggots so I know it will never happen
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>>121784769
I've only finished a campaign as Georgia in CK2 and Hawaii in Victoria 2.
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Can someone give me a good fun starting character and date in CK2? I dont mean from india as a one province count. Something fun and reasonable but also tricky. The funnest thing I did so far is my fratecceli the main catholic faith starting as a duke in south italy.
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>>121784998
>mods

When you're in a public shithouse you don't ask for the bathroom moderator, do you?

When you're in 4chan's shithouse, you don't ask for the bathroom moderator, do you?

we call these people JANITORS
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>>121784998
M
ABSOLUTE
D
M
A
N
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r8 my America
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Any of you fuckers wanna play some V2?
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>>121782904

>been fighting this guy my entire life (about 30 years of constant war because I broke every truce)
>this guy kept the turks together despite stupidly high decadence a decade ago, plus me constantly ravage his lands in a desperate attempt to finally break apart his blob
>even had me on the ropes when I had a jihad called against me and hundreds of thousands of arabs marched across the red sea to kick me out of nubia
>he's a genius and his vassals love him so I can never assassinate him
>never has an ai leader given me such a problem
>finally caught him

It's so tempting to just execute this mudslime
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>>121782971

wut u say m8?
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Why is it that when I release Quebec in Vicky 2, I only get like, half the cores it has?
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>>121785687
kill him then ?
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I think I suck at being a gp, how do I actually get countries in my sphere when I get it late, like 1870-80?

I was in the new world and the USA would just ban my embassy on any country I tried to take from them. They sphered everything. Makes it impossible to annex any territory or go to war with them. Is it a better strategy to try to sphere in europe and then use those allies to take on the US?
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No matter how much i look i see a woman. Am i wrong?
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>>121788426
>No Northern Epirus or Macedonia
Close
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>>121788896
>No Armenia or Georgia
>No Magna Graecia states in Italy and Sicily
>>
Whats a good EU3 mod? Specifically one that changes these shit borders
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>>121789103
Sicily you could have, Magna Gracia? Now thats just gonna look ugly tbqh
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>After 10 hours of CK2 decide to take a break
>Watch Hellsing
>Maxwell unleashes the 9th crusade against England
>Already want to go back to slaughtering Christians
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>>121789104
Well for that you want a map mod, you can use CanOmer's Map or Devlet-i-Aliyye Osmanli aka DAO map mod. The other thing would be more overhauly mods like MEIOU.
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>>121789168
>No Crimea
>No Cyrene
>No exclaves in southern France and eastern Iberia

shit greece
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>>121789237
>No Egypt, North Africa, Italy, Levant and South Iberia
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>>121789316
>wanting shitty fake-Roman Greek claims
>not true Hellenic heritage
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>>121789457
Sounds like we'll be going all the way to India then
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>>121789316
>Rome probably could have defeated Sassanids and Arabs if Justinian hadn't been retarded, or at least stopped at Africa
Hurts desu
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>>121788896
>you in charge of regions
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>>121789870
Problem senpaitachi?
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>>121789917
You're outright wrong
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>>121789938
How so?
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>>121789481
>Macedon
>Greek
top kek
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>finish crushing a revolt in Iberia and securing my hold over Egypt, preparing for my next push into Syria
>realize I have been observing the holy land for a while, decide to see how Europe is faring
>see Scandinavia

Rus what the fuck are you doing
>>
Is Austria the least fun GP?

I mean, what the fuck do you even do as them? Nowhere to blob to because your blob is already disgusting enough, no one wants to ally you so you're going to be raped by Prussia and France, if you don't want to get raped by Prussia and France you have to micromanage a million tiny spheres, you can barely build an army because you'll end up having 500 Hungarian soldiers and 500 Austrian soldiers in a province which means you can't build a brigade out of them because Paradox is retarded.

Plus you're playing as the Austrian Empire, everything bad about 19th century Europe personified.

Is there a single redeeming factor to playing Austria?
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>>121768770
Ebin proportion of craftsmen my man
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HPM doesn't work for me. I have 3.03, checksum is NSPY, no other mod, HPM folder deleted before i run the game so no cache, and yet whenever I start a game it always crashes at adapting history. I don't fucking know anymore.
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>>121790171
Old Macedonia is Dorian tbqh
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>>121790167
God fucking damnit anon aren't you watching maps all day?
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>>121790535
>implying

Next you'll be saying Epirotes aren't just Illyrian scum
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>>121790557
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>>121790727
>Sparta is so shit Philip and Alexander never even bothered

laughing_Athenian_sluts.jpg
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>>121790727
>Agrianians and Paeonians
>Ethnic Macedonians

Some of the regions in that map are probably majority Thracian, too.
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>>121790727
>extremely "ambitious" map
>blobbing
>"historical ethnic macedonia"
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>tfw no mp in months
>tfw kojak has gone silent
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>>121790941
i'm still here
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>>121790894
>>121790896
Never said ethic Macedonia, just Northern Macedonia
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>>121790804
>spartans get sent that message about submitting if they are conquered
>they reply with "if"
>tfw they were probably shitting themselves and on suicide watch if they ever took the time to look at a map
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>>121791090
NM is a meme
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>>121765989
Take Algeria then I'll give it a strong 7
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>>121790727
God damn the Hellespont is so ugly, ruins the rather aesthetic area
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>>121791134
>Sparta doesn't even have walls
>Their population is at at a terminal decline because their men spend all their time in the barracks fucking other men instead of their wives
>they could field maybe 2,000 actual outmoded Spartiate hoplites whose tactics were obsolete even before the invention of the pike phalanx
>their shitty little spears probably would never make contact with a single Macedonian's body

Spartaboos btfo
>>
So lads I've been just robbed so I won't go to college today and I need a to do a campaign in order to set my shit straight and clear my mind
What you guys recomend?
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>>121791257
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Megalopolis
Actually they got 22000 with some mercs
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>>121791326
makekdon btfo
>>
>tfw always 4-5 tech behind everyone in EU4
How do I git gud at mana management?
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>>121791326
I said Spartiates you idiot. A "Spartan led" army comprised mostly of mercs and other city states' men is gonna have a tiny minority of actual Spartans in it.
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>>121791432
> Macedonian victory
You blind m8?
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>>121791529
By Antipater. They got their asses kicked by a an old as fuck bean counter who was busy with other rebellions while Alexander was away, after having all the time in the world to prepare.
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>>121791326
>King Agis, now wounded and unable to stand, ordered his men to leave him behind to face the advancing Macedonian army so that he could buy his men time to retreat. On his knees, the Spartan king slew several enemy soldiers before being finally killed by a javelin.
Pretty based desu
>>
>tfw you play as byzantium in 1066
>tfw you're only saved by a greek duke who managed to slay Arp Aslan in his prime in single combat
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>>121791595
Dying in a heroically stupid manner is all that Spartan kings are good for. That and being keked by Athenians.

Ancient grand strategy game from Paradox when? No, EU Rome doesn't count
>>
>>121791606

You better treat that man like the goddamn national hero he is.
>>
>>121791701
Realistically he'd end up usurping the throne but CK2 Byzantium is really stable for some reason.
>>
>>121791701
He married the Queen of Alania to bring them into the fold.

Pretty based desu.
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Time for a meme run
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>>121794227
bro we were almost free

why did you have to post ?

why ??
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>>121789316
>>121789237
>>121788896

>not true greater greece
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r8 my Europe
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>>121794954
Go away Johan, nobody plays in terrain mode.
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>>121794954
Wow look at China haha

>>121795008
Fuck off
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>>121794954
>Terrain mode
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>>121795008
>>121795272
t. meneth
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>>121794403
You don't get it, do you?
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>>121796005
What the fuck is that
>>
>>121796005
>from 6 to 20000 people in one year
>>
HPM, I know what you think about adding new factories, but what about cigars and cigarettes? I'm sure it wouldn't make a noticeable difference by adding 2/3 new factories.
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I've made a mod in ck2 where you can seduce your son/daughter even lover/wife (so you can get them pregnant faster) and marry close family members (sister brother marriage ect.)

Anyone interested?
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>>121796175
He bought Iceland you memester
>>121796005
What are your plans lad?
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>>121796005
>not playing as Iceland and modding you in the Americas to end up as a 5m populated province
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>>121796336
At this point? Get bored of tempting RNG luck to become a great power
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Epic

Yugoslavia = dead
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>>121796743
Holy shit since when can Yugoslavia break up
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>>121796408
>Cheating
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>>121796743
Looks like that yugoslavia wasnt radical enough to handle you.
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so i've got this ayutthaya game, westernized and its 1614. i have exploration, humanist, offensive; now what do i take for 4th idea group? basically my problems rn are shitty tech, shitty provinces, not enough guys to throw at problems. thanks
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RATE GROSSGERMANIUMS
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>>121797747
0/10 not grand strategy
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>>121797616
>Anonymous 11/09/15(Mon)04:30:16 No.121797616▶

oh yeah also the game made me rival France Spain and Portugal which is kind of stupid but at least Ming stopped hating me. now i need to kill Bengal and Lan Xang to get the cheevo for SE Asia.
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>>121796743
Ebin

I might annex Montenegro also as their Adriatic islands are triggering
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>>121797881
Considering you're o a non-European challenging them in the colonization game, it sort of makes sense.
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>>121797920
Do it desu
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>>121797920
May as well take Bosnia too
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Hey guys long time reader first time poster rofl.

Ive been playing babbies first EU (4) and i started looking at more of your photos from the other games.

My Norwegian girlfriend saw some of your photos and is rocking in the corner due to the pummeling Norway tends to take in your saves.

So now i wanna play again but seeing as everyone here thinks EUIV is for casuals what Paradox game should i move onto next. Do they have varied difficulties?

I want harder but not PURE autism. pls help i want to make Norway great again
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>Dao + Miscmods
>Hungary has more manpower than Golden Horse and Timurids combined
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>>121798479
also inb4 "read the picture at the top" i have tried but the color scheme and font is just awful.
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>>121798479

EU4 is awesome and not that casual. CK2 is like EU4 crossed with a soap opera, it's awesome too. The older games are not really worth playing for people not on the spectrum imo
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>>121798576
t. Johan
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>>121798576
EU4 mixed with a soap opera? Please tell me more.

OH RIGHT AND I WANT ONE THAT LETS ME TAKE ALLLL OF THE FUCKING WORLD. None of that wasteland shit, pissin me off.

Sidenote: what the fuck has 4chan done to its captcha
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>>121798556

You know what to do
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Is this a known broken strategy in ck2?:

Be feudal and gain tribal lands. Invite a claimant, and push their claim, getting 100% warscore. Give the claimant the tribal title, and offer peace. The claimant will now be your vassal with two titles, but they will still be tribal so you can revoke their titles with negligible penalty (-80 relations with that vassal), and just repeat the process with a new claimant for a new piece of land.

I tested this with tribal claimed province and tribal granted province, so it would at least work for taking every piece of tribal land. If the claimed province is feudal it might not work.
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>>121798873
beee yooo tee fuul
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>>121798873
How Hungarian were those areas anyway?
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>>121799119

Irrelevant. The important thing is that they aren't hungarian anymore.
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>1456
jesus fucking shit

>>121799119
in romania, there is(just as at the time of the trianon) a hungarian enclave, while the surrounding parts are/were populated mainly by romanians and saxons(even the current president is a saxon)
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>>121799238
T. Romanian
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>>121799340

Beautiful.
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>>121798738
I don't like you.

If you were a long time 'reader'/lurker as you'd say, you wouldn't actually say rofl or reader, spam all caps for no raisin and would already know the answers to your questions.

But to answer your question reddit friend: In Crusader Kings 2, you don't so much play countries as you play a dynasty. You try to survive the test of time with it, trying to take the best decisions your family could take while your family and every other lord in Europe does everything in their power for things to go wrong.

Don't get attached to your children. You'll murder most of them and it would be the right decision.

With the proper DLC, you can play a Viking, and that's pretty fun, if a bit babbymode.
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>>121798479
Please tell me you're baiting us
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>>121799602
>I was a newfag once
>My first post people instantly realized in and made fun of me
>That was more then 6 years ago
Jesus christ please kill me.
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>>121797616
HOLY PENIS what if i take Expansion? I could expand more to philippines and indonesia and then get good provinces. also awesome CB on asia and africa.. i'm gonna do it. you can't stop me
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>>121799340
(cont.)
there's a hungarian enclave in the middle

the romanian part - transylvania was sort of ping-ponged between hungary and the ottomans just like the other 2 principalities(moldavia/wallachia)
therefore, the hungarian/romanian population ratio has been fairly stable for the past 1000 years, during the times of hungarian rule, romanians being "tolerated", but not having any sensible rights, hence a factor for romanian hate towards hungarians and szekelys

since I can't write for shit at the moment, here's something I posted on le leddit :^) a couple months ago on this: https://www.reddit.com/r/eu4/comments/35tiaq/new_map_teaser_germany/cr7rb5j?context=3
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I hope Victoria 3 removes pops or at least add women to it

Women did a lot of stuff, the Victorian age is named after a woman
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>>121798873
REMOVE MAGYAR remove magyar
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>>121799974
pops are the best feature of paracock games
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>>121799974
>removes pops
I won't play it
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>>121799974
Also make African nations more powerful.I can't believe that they're called "uncivilized" and the Europeans can annex them so easily.
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>>121800075
>taking bait this hard

>>121799974
>t. Johan

No one gives a shit about portraying 'wymyn yn hystyry' correctly you kek.
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>>121800114
>obsessing this much over a shitty mechanic that you can't even interact with and is generally complexity for the sake of complexity
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>>121790727
This is like including the Eastern Bloc into Soviet Union maps
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>>121799974

This desu
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>>121800119
And resources I mean come on its 2015 africans shouldnt be at a disadvantage because they have less coal and iron.
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>>121800206
>he doesn't play Vicky exclusively for pop migration and genocide
You don't understand the point of the 19th century
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>>121800301

Careful with that edge
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>>121799974
>Remove pops
But that's literally its gimmick, what the fuck else is there apart from managing pops?
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>>121800353
It's not edgy, it's what happened
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EU4: Is there a way to deal with natives in colonies, other than send in the einsatzgruppen to take care of them? It feels kinda dirty to do it every game, but the fuckers just rise up ALL the time.
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>>121800301
The 19 century is about men declaring wars and women suffering

See WW1

Hilarry was right, the ones who most suffer are women because they lose their husbands and sons
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>>121800368

Realism is not a meaningful argument
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>>121800365
>implying you actually manage pops in vic 2
It's a liquor factory and clergyman national focus simulator. That's all it is.
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>>121800495
And without that its basically EU
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>>121800405

Put 2 regiments on the colony. Wait until it completes. Move them to the next one. Repeat.
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>>121800495
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT FAGGOT "SPEND 20 GENOCIDE MANA TO CHANGE THE CULTURE" YOU FAGGOT FAGGOT
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>>121799802
Romanians became a majority in Transylvania during the 18th century when around 300-400 thousand moved in from beyond the Carpathians. This was because the ottomans and the wars left these lands deserted.
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>>121800550

Yes.
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>15 years of 6/6/6
yeezus

>>121800495
>having no imagination
>needing constant feedback
you shit
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>>121800537
It already is EU. "Muh super duper complex ekonomee and popps" aren't nearly as complex as people make it out to be, in fact the economy is so simple it's hard to tell it apart from EU.
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>>121800620
>yeah, let's just leave our romanian lands to suck hungarian cock
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>>121800680
That's not an argument
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>>121800751
nice post
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>>121800765
What are you arguing for then, anon?
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4th term as 6/6/6
M A D N E S S
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>>121800728
They moved because the taxation in Wallachia became too heavy for the peasantry and the overall quality of life and security was better. Also, they could take a lot of land for themselves.
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>>121800405
you can also just kill them all with the option when you have a unit on top of the province. never deal with them again for like 2 military power or something.
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>>121800939
ok, istvan
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>>121800405
I always just leave 2k soliders on any land im colonizing. Which i always find funny that im protecting a colony of 150 people with 2000 soldiers.
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>>121799602

>You'll murder most of them

I don't think I've killed a relative for 800 hours.
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who needs blobbing anyway
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>>121801193
I dont normally either but in my most recent game everyone was trying to elect in my moron inbred lunatic ugly dwarf son. Ok he was actually decent but Instead of my heir and son who was quick and strong. I had to imprision him and execute him. His son then became the next king
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>>121801298
Could you make it to empeor rank with just one province? I would like to see it.
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Rip the dream, I honestly should've seen it coming but I am sleepy as fuck and made dumb decisions. Oh well, I'll go back later to an earlier save and try something different I guess.
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>>121801298
>OPM
>military ranking: 9th
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>>121801519
I dropped a little bit
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>>121797747
what game/10
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>Exams in 7 hours, haven't slept yet
>Can't stop playing
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>>121801956
literally my college life (especially this last week)
I feel ya man

Why am I even here my major is shit and this school is hard
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>>121774458
>>121774284
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>>121802954
At LEAST clear the Ottomans out of Asia before blobbing into the Khanates.
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>>121802954
YES, remove ottomans with vigor
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WHAT
THE
FUCK
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>>121803175
have fun not being an OPM anymore!
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>>121803175

No fun allowed.

T. Wiz
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>>121803175
>-88 prestige

what did you do?
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>/gsg/ says EU3 is better than EU4
>play both
>EU3 is shit
>EU4 is perfect
>/gsg/ says HPM is better than PDM
>play both
>HPM is fucking trash
>PDM is simply amazing
>/gsg/ says vanilla HoI3 is better than Black Ice
>play both
>vanilla is fucked up
>Black Ice is clearly vastly superior
>/gsg/ says aurora and kaiserreich are great
>play both
>they all fucking suck
>play TW and Civ V
>they're pretty fun and I wasted straight out a day with both of them
>mfhw (my flipping hand when)
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>>121804019

Would be 10/10 if not for saying Black Ice is good
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>>121803810
He probably flipped religion.
>>
desu senpai
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>>121803175
Anon how the fuck did you managed to get your separatists on some random guy's Capital as a OPM
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>>121804019
>PDM is simply amazing
>horse factories
>stock factories
desu PDM is great aside from the fact the economy is ruined by shit like this
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do shekels do anything to revolted rebels?

>>121804389
I have no idea, I haven't gone into any wars
the reformation just hit, so maybe the unrest somehow did something something
I dunno, hence the "what the fuck"
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>>121804585
I know in EVE it allows you to "join the war", so technically just declare war on the target country and help the rebels, but idk if it's the same in Vanilla or other mods.
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haha wow holy shit
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this is amazing
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>>121804730
Silly goyim! You have to blob in this game. Need help? Here have a free province!
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>>121804730
>>121804859
Wew
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>>121804859
the absolute madmen, they actually did it
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I think it was a ploy to remove my delicious development and protection of the emperor

we blob nao
too bad switzerland and cologne are the only ones wanting to ally, and the rest are having alliances all over the place
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meanwhile...
the motherfuckers are more beastly than my intermarum brandenburg from yesterday
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>>121805059
>ne pas vouloir être un ami de la Suisse
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>>121805168
Simply ebin
Now all we need is a bohemian snake
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>>121803175
Assman is the hero Mainz needs.
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>>121804497
baka kek
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>fire up self-made lesbian marriage ck2 mod that I haven't played in months
>find out that neither of the marriage partners get pregnant anymore

They used to get pregnant, both of them, regularly as if they were in a normal marriage just through the game engine.

Anyone knows what I can do? I assume random marital pregnancies are hard-coded?
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let's jew up, friends
I should've picked espionage, might have made this more fun
maybe the third idea group, would it be a good idea?
C H A O S
H
A
O
S

>>121805247
nu vorbesc limba broastelor, prietene
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>>121805443
Release Mainz as vassal
Help the separatists
Annex 2 province Mainz
Continue until you've founded grossgermaniums
Willy bless
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>>121805494
good idea, if they were not allied to goddamn austria, since they became an elector in place of mainz

if giving rebels my shekels will make em pop up, I'll release the vasal
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>emperor of HRE doesnt add newly conquered provinces to HRE
Literally why?
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A S S M A N
S
S
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what should I pick next?

leaning on admin, influence, trade, offensive
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>want to make a modern day mod for Vicky 2
>realise it's not feasible because everyone defaults to being a conservative with every tiny reform made, not to mention the communist/fascist rebel death spiral
RIPIP dream.
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FALLOUT 4 IS CRACKED YOU FAGGOTS

>>121805660
>>121805303
wait, what the shit
how did you..
I'm a goddamn republic
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>>121806307
>Implying republic leader can't send his son to get rebels up in some places.
Also get espionage
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>>121805887
Espionage.
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>>121806307
>>121806307
Wait wait wait is there a pirate version around already?
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>video about ancient macedonia
>"HA YOU STUPID GAYREEKS! ALEKSANDAR IS MAKEDON, FUCK HELL ASS"
>"NO, STFU MONKEYDONIAN! ALL HAIL GLORIOUS GREECE, ALEXANDER WAS A GREEK, YOU FILTHY SLAV!"

>video about steppe nations
>"YAY, TURKIC PEOPLES UNITE! WE TURKS ARE THE TRUE MONGOLS, I AM SO HAPPY THAT OUR HISTORY IS SO RICH!"
>"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FILTHY TURK, WE MONGOLS ARE A PROUD NATION, NOT FILTHY MUDSLIMES LIKE YOU!"

>video about ancient egypt
>"EVIL WHITES TRY TO STEAL OUR HISTORY! WHY USE WHITE ACTORS? CLEOPATRA WAS BLACK, TUT' WAS BLACK!"
>"STFU FILTHY NIGGER, HOW CAN YOU NIGGER EVEN AFFORD INTERNET? DOES WELFARE COVER INTERNET CONNECTION?"

every fucking time
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>>121790527
Are you using a steam version of V2?

>>121739162
Depends on some factors, it gets up to 10% IIRC.

>>121796243
Not every good needs a factory anon. I honestly don't see the need of a cigar factory in game for now.

>>121806504
Yup, CODEX.
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>>121806556
>>"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU FILTHY TURK, WE MONGOLS ARE A PROUD NATION, NOT FILTHY MUDSLIMES LIKE YOU!"
Never heard that one.
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>>121806556
Turks are the fucking worst when it comes to that shit.
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>>121806756
>implying its real
Also, should I go Catholic or Orthodox for Greater Serbia? Started catholic as a >croats are catholic serbs joke.
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>>121806797
>>121806783
>>121806556
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>>121806975

Orthodox.
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>>121806975
>>
>>121800495
>he doesn't build advanced factories in his country
spot the pleb
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VOTE FOR A NEW GOAL

http://strawpoll.me/2402911
http://strawpoll.me/2402911
http://strawpoll.me/2402911
http://strawpoll.me/2402911


WHAT WILL I DO NEXT /GSG/?
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>>121807414

Enjoy your keylogger.
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>>121807575
nice thumbnail faggot
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>>121807617
>Being so computer illiterate you get malware from scene releases
Oh wow
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>>121804585
Mainz primary culture is franconian, while that reagion is rhenish or something, so there's that. You just got lucky, I guess
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>84%
goddamit paracocks
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here we go
god I love this piss color

also, how does embargoing work? Is there any detriment to embargoing rivals(I know it gives you a warning if you embargo non-rivals)
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>>121807575
Post a larger pic.
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>>121808124
germaniums should thank me for spreading the light
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>>121808124
It hurts your trade efficiency. You can see how much it hurts you by looking at the trade nodes somewhere.

But if they're your rival, then no penalty.
>>
>>121808124

No. You're supposed to embargo rivals, and powerful trade nations in nodes you want to dominate (say, embargoing England as Netherlands).
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>>121808124
No reason not to use it on rivals. A detriment is that it gives them a CB on you but it does not hurt your trade efficiency and you should be doing it. I think it also gives power projection so it is good for that too.
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>>121804019
>not playing the superior civ
desu senpai i would've forgiven the rest of your post if it weren't for this
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KYRIE ELEISON
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best pop
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I bring memes
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/dev-diary-8-the-situation-log-and-special-projects.890612/
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>>121808710
This will certainly come in handy some time.
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>I will never fight together with the pope to restore the WRE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDV48bsquew
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>>121809329
You can vassalize them faggot, do it.
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>>121809428
How would I do that, just give them a county like usual? And what advantage would it give me?
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>>121806756
HPM, I have two bugs for you.

First is pic related.

Second: I was playing Germany, formed greater Germany, released all non-German Austrian states as free nations. When the Berlin Conference (the Ottoman Empire one) happened and Romania was freed from being an Ottoman puppet, I sphered them. The moment I sphered them, they instantly annexed Transylvania, who was sphered by me from when I formed greater Germany.

There's no way they should be able to just eat Transylvania from out of your sphere. I think it would be a cool feature for you as sphere leader of both to choose whether to integrate Transylvania or not, but they shouldn't just be able to do it on their own.
>>
>>121809428
>>121809523
Nevermind they just built a castle in Thrace and I vassalized and holy shit they're pretty much a free 7.7k strong army now.
>>
What do you think the next CK2 DLC will be? With Horse Lords its almost a complete game.
>>
>>121810425
Ancient Rome
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>>121805656
Historical. Hungarian part of Austrian Empire was not considered part of the HRE
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Rate Großjerusalemiums/Europe?
>start as Salian EMPRAH
>consolidate HRE
>win crusade for Jerusalem
>give to non-inheriting son
>gift 1000 dosh
>switch
>vassalize Holy Orders immediately
>crusader pain train
>another crusade for Andalusia, HRE wins without any help from me (too busy fighting mudslimes)
>switch to HRE
>give Andalusia to another Salian third-born
I will continue doing this every time I conquer a new kingdom. I plan to keep Syria and Jerusalem for myself, though (without actually creating Syria).

I may conquer Egypt just to form a unique Empire, then release it as an independent, Salian crusader state.

>>121809523
Basically, yes. Give them a county, then that county's duchy, then offer vassalization. You're emperor, so they can't refuse. Easy peezy. You basically have no reason not to, they're free troops. You can give them the entire Kingdom of Jerusalem if you want. Basically like having a governor.
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>>121810425
Chinese lords/theocracies and minor republics.
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>>121810425
CADET BRANCHES
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>>121810425
Indochina :^) Why fix the game if you can just add more land cultures?
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S T R O N K
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death to imperialists
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>>121811323
silly me, here's a pic
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>>121810425
I swear adding East Asia + maybe southeast would make the game complete

umbra spherae never forget
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>>121810018
First is fixed, second is the way NNM handles stuff: same sphere, they join.

Do remember that a sphereling is not a puppet and has basically complete freedom (not really complete as you influence their economy, military and foreign relations)
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>>121810425
Making great holy wars not as shit would be nice along with better diplomacy. Too bad that isn't the direction they like to go in.
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Well, EU3 indeed got more "interesting" worlds than EU4
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>First crusade finally begins after being delayed for like 5 years
>30k, 15k muslim armies run rampant around the region, annihilating everyone because the AI is stupid enough to bring troops in packs of 100-500
>Jerusalem remains in muzzie hands

>Second crusade for Jerusalem begins
>Same shit all over again, muslim armies outnumber all the catholics combined
>At this point I just went in to see Jerusalem and get the Crusader attribute

Feels bad man. Playing as Croatia by the way.
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>>121810425
>Complete
There's tons of stuff that could be improved. A law or bureaucracy system to differentiate realms beyond religion, better character relations (like the best friend of your father and presumably, family, not hating you just because you got in) not to mentions the bugs to squash.
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Kek
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>>121811640
On the sphere front, I get that they're not a puppet. But then Transylvania should have petitioned to join Romania before they both became part of the German sphere, not after. Why would Romania--or any other nation, for that matter--do something which could be blatantly against their sphere owner's policy, when they had the opportunity to try uniting prior to that?

I get that this comes down to sphere mechanics, but historically in a situation like this that Romania probably would have approached Germany and sought permission to unite with Transylvania, just to keep diplomatic ties strong. I think the same should happen here: if two nations are in another nation's sphere and they want to unite, they should ask the sphere leader whether they support the move. If they do, they unite; if they don't, they can choose either to do nothing or unite anyway and risk diplomatic reprisal (war with a free country CB)
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hpm is gay
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So... Uh... How do you become King of Italia as king of France?

Do I really have to conquer this country by county?
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>>121812413
Why is it so dark?
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>>121811474
Did you take Espionage?

>>121811543
Nooooooo.
But Indian Sea Trade could be cool, if implemented correctly.
Which it wouldn't, so nooooooo.

>>121812180
Just tag to HRE and win it, grant the kingdom independence, and then tag back to Croatia.

>>121810642
>have both Holy Orders vassalized
>free armies, kek
>enemy AI bum-rushes Holy Order stacks at every opportunity
>suicidal charge
>every single time
What's with the AI that it always seems to think it can beat the Holy Orders? How does it get tricked into rushing armies it can't possibly beat?
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>>121812942

Same as anywhere else, marry into a claim/land claimants and press their claims.
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>>121812942
get an emperor title. marry someone of your dynasty with a child of their current king. once the king dies, find an opportunity to press your weak claim. insta-vassalization.
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Prepared invasion broken in 2.4.5?
Tried to invade italy as Rurik and didnt received a single troop in 2 years.
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Que
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>>121813254
>did you take espionage
yeah, 4 fucking stacks of 10-15 rebels(munster + brunswick) were destroyed by cologne's single 10 stack because muh divide et impera and muh rebel ai
I regret taking it
I knew it would be useless
fuck
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>>121813254
>keep the train rolling
>declare holy war on independent Syrian duchy
>insta-13k Mameluks kekkity-kek
>t. Johan, known mudslime asskisser and female footworshipper
Johan is basically the Quentin Tarantino of video games, except less talented.

Anyway, I can beat them outright, and call in fire support if need be. Not worried, would suck to get stomped by a shitty emir, though.
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>>121812426
>Why would Romania--or any other nation, for that matter--do something which could be blatantly against their sphere owner's policy, when they had the opportunity to try uniting prior to that?
The way NNM assumes is that being part of the same sphere there's no extra hindrances (even more because people prefer to administer one country rather than 3 small countries) and when a nation is outside the sphere they can have some.

> like this that Romania probably would have approached Germany and sought permission to unite with Transylvania, just to keep diplomatic ties strong
Not necessarily, and not necessairly a sphereling likes the sphere owner. A puppet would need to ask permission to annex or unify territory or to go to war. A sphereling doesn't need to ask your permission to go war or to do any of those.
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>>121813338
>>121813349
Yeah but you wouldn't be the king so technically Charlemagne shouldn't be able to form HRE
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>>121770205
Taking Entre Rios and that other region south of it would make this perfect borders.
>All that Amazon just for Brazil
Rightful
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>>121813726

Conquering it duchy claim by duchy claim and declaring yourself King works just fine.
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What idea group?
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FUCK YOOOOOOOOUUUUUU
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>>121770205
>not letting jacobins enforce demands for superior flag & more filthy immigrants

6/10 nice Argentine penis
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wew, teutos did good
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>>121813726
i haven't bothered with charlememe, so i don't know the hre formation requirements. but if for whatever reason, the only thing you want is to immediately get the kingdom title yourself (not even by succesion), the only things you can do:
>use the claim or request invasion mechanic. will probably not work, so you might have to excommunicate the king (very unlikely)
>fabricate a claim to the kingdom. no particular way to do this other than employing a 25+ chancellor and crossing your finger
>uninstal.exe
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>>121814371
>Commonblob blocked from forming

Beautiful
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>>121814049

Espionage
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what a gay motherfucker

>>121814468
it actually formed
teutons beat them both and took half of poland(scroll up)
the absolute madmen
after that war, poland's prestige was less than -50 and the plc lasted for a few more years
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that le feel when
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>>121812426
>>121813704
I get your point. It would be solved if sphere owners had the ability (and option) to protest diplomatic actions. Then a crisis or just a relation hit could happen, depending on other factors. But they wouldn't be able to outright block the actions, just protest them.
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>>121814049
Exploration
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good god this is beautiful
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guglielmo_Oberdan

>was an Italian irredentist
>His mother was a Slovene woman
>born Wilhelm Oberdank

/gsg/ why do you not know about this über dank memester
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Why doesnt Paradox dedicate more time to making varied events? Making an event in CK2/EU4 doesnt take too long and if they just forced one guy to focus on events for a month they could get a good 1000 or so varied semi-generic events for everyone (unless the guy was a retard with no good design knowledge). The Orthodox in EU4 only have the patriarch events and the pentarchy event which is basically nothing. CK2 is a game where events are important to shape your character yet there are relatively few of them, even with the WoL DLC you'll see the same events dozens of times in a single game unless you switch religions constantly. Not to mention there are hardly any unique culture related events in the game.
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>>121814839
But the colonial distance is huge. By the time I get in range I fear most of the good shit will be gone.
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>>121814907
>>>/his/
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>>121814907
>The condemned Oberdan refused all religious rites, stating "I am a mathematician and a freethinker, and do not believe in the immortality of the soul"

Sweet Jesus

What an enlightened and euphoric individual
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ayyy
that's whay you get jihading
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>>121814990
>/his/
>better for discussing history than /gsg/
Kill yourself you Hiro cocksucker.
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>>121814967
Because events are railroading
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I've been trying multiple times now to press a claim of my vassals on other kingdoms in CKII (while being an emperor myself) as this seems an easy way to grab large chunks of land.

Now the war is usually not a problem for me, but the result is a person being a king only in title as he has no power base at all in the kingdom he just accquired.

He does not hold counties or duchies and without any holdings there is no levy to protect him from factions firing immediately.

This leads to a nation that is completely useless for me because it is fractured by multiple revolting pseudo kings which I can't put down as I am only allowed (for whatever fucking reason) to join the war of the revolting guys.

Why can't I join the dude I put in power and is there any way to secure power for him?
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>>121815089
It's the right place, I'm not saying it's better or not
You have a board for history, go use it if you want to discuss history
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>>121815246
But we've discussed history here for over 5 years now, let's not change something that works. /his/ is a fucking hellhole already.
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>>121815420
And now you have a place solely to discuss it
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>>121814967

Because events don't sell. The tree of profits must be littered with cosmetic units DLC and face packs.
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>>121815143
Its a history game m9, just create systems that allow you to combine shit with the focus mechanic so that you can aim for certain events and voila. Meanwhile paradox added fucking India to the game, starving everyone for content and also causing the game to run like shit.
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>>121815526
Events are railroading, deal with it
We want these games to have few to none events, that's what content is about
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>>121815658
>We want these games to have few to none events, that's what content is about
Speak for yourself, faggot. I like my games fleshed out.
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>>121815658
t. Johan
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>>121815658
Like EU4?
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>>121815658
Wew Johan... simply wew...
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>>121815967
>>121815859
>>121815854
>>121815779
Well mene'd my fellow redditors
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>>121815779
Ideally the mechanics of the game would work out so that what would be events are organically created. You can see that they tried to do that with EU4's war of the roses, whether it worked out or is better that way I dunno.
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>>121816073
Well mana'd ;^)
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>>121815658
Indeed, they should be balanced around competitive play and ESports. It should be easy to learn but hard to master ;)
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>>121816080
>whether it worked out or is better that way I dunno
>EU4
I think you already answered yourself, fàm.
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>>121816080
All events are railroading
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>>121813501
Refund it and cheat yourself the mana back

>>121814049
Espionage, duh.

>>121814371
Teutostronk, I like it.

>>121813652
HELP ME /gsg/! I need to know what the best borders are! I trust your judgment implicitly!
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>>121816154

This to be honest family. Imagine all the mone...erm, the fun of competitive grand strategy. Surely it would best mobas.
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>>121816319
Green, red, orange and dark blue.
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>>121816319

dark blue
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>>121816319
>Refund it and cheat yourself the mana back
no my friend, well, sort of
this is the only thing I managed to do with the entire idea group
with no more -60 unlawful territory, it's time for

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_WHGV5bejk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L7FuA8Rry8
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Daily reminder that blobbing is the goal of all Pairofcocks games :^)
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>>121816319

You're Jerusalem, you can't de jure integrate duchies. Cut the Arabian border where the shitty desert starts (Damascus optional), take the Greek islands.

Take Egypt if you're feeling blobby, otherwise give it to an ally.

Take Sicily and the Baleares for naval dominance, let one of them make you merchant money.
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>>121816632
Showing your face in the corner? They should include some mechanics for that then
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>playing FO4
>pc temp at 60
>play Clauswitz engine game
>temp at 100
WHY
H
Y
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>>121816614
>territory
>conquest
kek

>>121816451
>>121816415
Dark blue is the common ground here, so that's what I'll go for. Maybe the others can be satellite states under Salian rule later on.

Meanwhile
>Rus FINALLY frees itself from weird khanate named after province (Olyeshe?) after three tries
>immediately breaks down into civil war
>Oh-You.avi
Rest isn't -too-hideous, though. Could form up nice if Russia and Poland get their shit together.
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>>121816945
Efficiency is not a valid argument
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>>121816935
face manna
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>only 8 triggered modifiers in EU4
There will be a total of 10 once all the DLC come out wont there?
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>>121816945
We're just a small company, you can't honestly expect us to compete with Bethesda. We try, really.
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>>121816984
"Step-mom loviiiiinnnn~~ Is the best kind o' loviiiinnn~~"
But seriously, kid. Ew.
>Rival -100
>still loves me at +100 because I gave him a ton of shit
>it's aawwwwriiight
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>>121817393

It's not like there's many stuff you could put in that time period.
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>>121816945
you have to buy the cpu efficiency dlc
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>>121814646
That sounds reasonable. They should definitely be able to protest.
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memes
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>>121817404
>pretending to be a paracock
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>>121818170
Watch out for coalitions, mang.
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>>121814646
Crisis sounds like the exact mechanic for this particular issue
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Hey, /gsg/, something weird just happened in my game of Vicky 2.

I'm playing as New England and am in a middle of a war with the United States that it declared for the return of New York State. The war has been going well for me, mostly. So well that I decided to add Acquire New Jersey and Acquire Pennsylvania to my wargoals.

Now my War Score got as high as 23, but then as soon as I had occupied all of Pennsylvania, it suddenly dropped down to 4 for no apparent reason.

- I'm not being blockaded, though I don't know why since the American navy is twice the size and strength of my own;
- I have yet to lose a single battle in the war and in fact most battles have been crushing victories for me;
- America did just re-build some of is military so that its military score has gone from 3 to 11, though that's still much smaller than my own and shouldn't account for that much of a fall, should it?
- If it matters, I am playing NNM.

What happened?
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>>121818027
What would Germany be protesting about if Transylvania joins Romania? We object a Romania state joining the Romanian nation-state because it's our sphere of influence and we should be allowed to decide everything that happens there?
Hungary would have a case to protest though, about protecting their minority in Transylvania
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>>121817404
>They said it couldn't be done, so I didn't do it
The Paradox company motto
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>>121818083

Memes?
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r8 my Europe
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>>121818360
nobody has over 50 AE on me
the red is from the emperor being a total kek and demanding my rightful clay

>>121817404
>>121818170
if you really are a paramuck, I love you anyway, senpai
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What is currently best military idea group?
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The fuck is this thing?
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>>121818631
offensive/defensive
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Great schism mended SOON
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>>121818659
Looks like a big meme game of EU4
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>>121818581
Own all the alps man.
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>>121818659
proto-ukraine
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>>121818659
Rightful Polish land.
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GIVE ME NEW HPM OR GIVE ME DEATH
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>>121818463
Hover over the warscore bar in the diplomacy menu and see why
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>>121818463
Oh, wait, nevermind, I think I found out. I puppeted Haiti, and there are some USCA (an American puppet) forces taking over there.

Friggin' Hell, Haiti, you have NOT been worth the two wars over puppeting you.

Now how the Hell am I gonna get a navy past the American navy...?
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>>121818749
By the way, I have a claim on Rome now but I'm wondering - just how much manpower does the Pope muster when attacked? He has 7k gold and a 3.8k levy. Not counting mercs I suppose.
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>>121818983
Anon, you wanna talk about anything? Why this sudden deathwish?
>>
new thread
>>121819085
>>121819085
>>121819085
>>121819085
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>>121818983
this is a post i agree with to be honest family shaking my head
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>>121818083
As it should have been.
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>>121791674
>keked by athenians
Peloponnesian war fagtron
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>>121819091
Very little, just do it.
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This is pretty stupid considering that I'm involved in this plot.
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I LET ANOTHER DYNASTY RULE MY COUNTRY(ENGLAND) AND NOW I CAN NOT FORM THE FUCKING ANGEVIN UNION.

FUCK MY LIFE, I AM A DUMBASS FAG.

I CAN NOT LOAD GAME BECAUSE I DID IT LIKE IN THE START OF THE GAME (1309).

I HATE MYSELF.
>>
Well it's 1167 and King Sancho 'the drunkard' Jiménez is putting the finishing touches on the reconquista. What now?
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