/dsg/ Dark Souls & Demon Souls General

>>121633474

Did I really ruin DS1 by playing DS2 first or am I just being a scrub? How do I get past rolling weirdness and should I just put up with the shitty framerate (unlock and deal with physics weirdness or keep it locked and deal with 30 FPS?)?

DeS vs DaS vs DaS2? Go to /v/ please, just talk about the game you like.

PC vs PS vs XBox? Just fuck off, it doesn't matter.

Let's have a comfy thread guys.

>>121634092
You pIay it or you don't. SimpIe if you're not a fucking moron.

>>121634092
Just fucking play it. Games be different Yo.

>>121634092
I played the game to death on PS3 but from what little i've played of the PC version, the framerate unlock is well worth it and I've seen no issues with physics.
Use it until you have a reason not to I say.

Also I actually enjoyed DaS2 but I have to say that DaS was overall a much better game.

>>121634183
Everyone knows which ones are good and which aren't.

Every other site has professionaI review and thousands of pIayer reviews.

/dsg/ is just 4-5 autistic faggots trying to convince everyone the games aren't good, but they aIways have and aIways wiII faiI at trying to convince anyone of anything :)

>>121634092

>did I really ruin ds1

No. In fact it'll probably make you appreciate it more.

Unlock the fps because 30 is cancer.
And enjoy.

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>get back into DaS recently
>getting tons of invasions with the new Steam online
>suddenly start getting nothing ~3 days ago
>get maybe 1 invasion every couple hours at best
Anybody know what the problem is?

This was a really dramatic change that happened just a few days ago. I used to be able to just log in and invade instantly. But now I go for hours without being able to connect to anybody.

I downloaded Watchdog, and it shows me slowly building up a node pool (takes like 30 minutes just to get 10 or more), but even when I get to around 20 nodes I still can't invade anyone.

I'm human in Townshit at SL104 right now and only 2 nodes and nobody even attempting to invade me.

I tried changing my DownloadRegion parameter in Steam, but so far it doesn't seem to change much. Is there anything I can do to force it to connect with more people?

>>121634092
The rolling I think is the biggest issue

Playing DS2 and going back to one takes awhile to adjust to rolling, the 8 way roll is a massive improvement to 1 and you have to make sure you're more precise on which direction you push when you roll, otherwise it leads to many unnecessary deaths

Give it a few hours of fighting mobs and lots of rolling and you'll get used to it

>>121634472
Tell us about your favourite entry in the consistently good Souls franchise anon. What is your favourite part? Character? Do you make a waifu character or a manbeast?

>>121634893
Not really, the game is kind of dead around that level, you might want to go up to 120 and see if that is more popular

>The Souls games are boring to me. Too slow pace and uninteresting characters and muddy looking enviroments. You even have Dark Souls clones that look better graphically, Deep Down and Lords of the Fallen. Then the most insulting part of the franchise is how reviewers LIE about the game and dismiss its flaws just cause its different or minimalistic in nature, where as if that was any other game, it would be taken a point off or two. In other words, these games are overrated pieces of trash!

>>121634413
>I've seen no issues with physics
Weird. I keep hearing that the framerate unlock makes your attacks and rolls super weird and shit and fucks up elevators and ladders.

>Use it until you have a reason not to I say.
Yeah, I think that's what I'll do. I might make a new character while I'm at it, seeing as the Wanderer is a bit frail for my taste.

>Also I actually enjoyed DaS2 but I have to say that DaS was overall a much better game.

I keep hearing that and it makes me hopeful that I can get past the issues with DS1.

>>121634914
>Playing DS2 and going back to one takes awhile to adjust to rolling, the 8 way roll is a massive improvement

Oh shit, THAT must be my problem. I had no idea it was only four way rolling! I'll definitely keep that in mind when I go in to play a session tomorrow.

>>121634945
>favourite part?

Blight Town (for atmosphere), the entire first area of DeS (for p v e, great fun when it first came out and summons were EVERYWHERE) Heide (for p v p and the view).

Character? Benhart. Comfy and a bro. He also won't let his bad sword go because he believes in it so much.

Have too many characters in all versions but they're all men

You?

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>>121635383
Reviews like this just make me smile

But they're not as good as the ones where it's obvious that the game deeply scarred their ego

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Looks like the world cohesion debate has died down a little so here's a rendering of it.

>>121635681
>tfw you will never be a qt3.14 undead drinking from your Estus Flask

>>121635713
Why are you using the image that is tilted to make it look better than it really is?
Everyone knows BoC is lower than Ash Lake because nobody expected you to do this shit.

>>121635658
>Blight Town

You actually liked badvalleyofdefilement?
The place has no lore or anything of note save for Patch's retard shield

>>121635383
>this review
>>>/trash/

>>121635383

First time I hear about this Deep Down game. PS4 exclusive and made by capcom. Hype was DoA.

>>121635184
That's not it though. I've been making multiple characters, and up until about a week ago I was getting non-stop online interaction.

Not I can't even invade on my SL5 invasion character in the Parish. I don't hear the Gargoyle's bell ringing anymore either, when I used to hear it all the time.

Something definitely changed recently, but I can't tell what or how to fix it.

>>121636084
>made by capcom

Hey Dragon's Dogma managed to be amazing
Then Capcom turned it into a MMO

>>121635383
>You even have Dark Souls clones that look better graphically, Deep Down and Lords of the Fallen

Did Deep Down ever even get released? I remember watching some press stuff about it at one point and feeling kind of hopeful but then I never heard anything about it again.

How do I fight Aldia? I already got the three crowns, had Vendrick bless them, and killed Vendrick. I already spoke with Aldia in the Dragon place.

The thing is, I beat Nashandra THEN I went to do the DLC areas. Does this mess with the fight or something?

>>121635658
I love Anor Londo, it is beautiful. I also like to go through the gutter without a torch. It is torture and I have not played enough to know it (only combined 4 mill SM on my characters in ds2).

Character will always be Straid, he is just so fucking funny. He really gives a presence of malice.

I am 50/50 waifus and manbeasts. My waifus are always dex or casters and my manbeasts are always strength.

Anyone else want to share?
Area?
NPC?
Wifu or Manbeast?

>>121636150
Stop downloading so much porn Anon

>>121636575
You need to have killed Vendrick before you fight Nashandra in order to get Aldia to show up at the Throne. If you did this out of order, I'm pretty sure that you're screwed

oh man i would fuck rhea's voice actress so hard. i want her to call me uncouth and insult me.

>>121636904
Rhea has the best body of any girl in DaS, as well

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>>121634945
>Favorite part
Boletarian Palace, its just got some great level design, great enemies (REKs and Assassins) and is all around perfect atmosphere every step of the way.Great PVE, best PVP.

>Favorite character
Nashandra plz no bully

>waifu character or manbeast
Waifus and dashing knights only, manbeasts are gross

>>121636656
>Character will always be Straid, he is just so fucking funny.

>That echo when CURSED FOOL

Have you met NavIaan? He expands on Iore reaIIy weII. lf you haven't make sure you are hoIIow first.

>>121636656

The Gutter in 2 kinda flies under the radar when people mention good areas. It's always Lost Bastille that gets praised. I too like the Gutter a lot, I think it's probably the best designed location in 2. The darkness of it, the moving walls, the maze-like structure with multiple paths and fallbacks. It's great.
In 1 Sen's Fortress just left the biggest impression on me. Anor Londo is pretty but Sen's is so memorable for me because I find the entire house of traps theme to be very indiana jones. Anor Londo still gets the prize for the best peak with the S&O boss fight.

Oh, and I always roll females. I've had 1 male in about 15 characters.

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>>121637397
Sen's Fortress is amazing, never has one area inspired so much buttfrustration.
I've had the best time invading and carebearing in that place. Never laughed so hard in a video game before.

>>121636284
Deep down like 90% of the PS4 library is vaporware

>>121636897
Fuck.

Thanks anyway.

>>121637359
>Have you met

Yes, my first character pulled the switch. What a dick he was. Serves me right for not listening to the signs.

>>121637327
>Manbeasts are gross

Manbeasts are the way forward. Let's be real, no waifu or handsome knight is gonna crush the skulls of your enemies. You need a Manbeast.

>>121637397
I lost so many souls falling in the gutter, taught me better than anywhere to stop being kamikaze. The enemies might be easy but the environment can still kill!

>>121637397

Forgot about favorite NPCs. I like characters without much of an agenda, illusions of grandeur or that impose their morality on others. Characters that follow their simple personal interests. So I liked the Undead moss lady and the Undead male merchant.

>>121637397
Gutter is GOAT area for DaS2

Especially in Scholar, where the torches actually do stuff

>>121638012
>The enemies might be easy
>those dark broken sword hollows

unpleasant

>>121636656
>Area?

Central Yharnam. It takes the convoluted interconnectedness in a dense yet efficient space of the Undead Burg and then multiplies it into a whole huge location. It was really brilliant to explore, plus I really dug BB's gothic aesthetic. It also managed to nail cosmic horror, which is rare, but that's another topic entirely.

>Character?

Laurentius of the Great Swamp. He's just the nicest guy in the entire setting. He's so warm and friendly and genuinely cares about the player's well being.

As for my own characters I think I only ever did one woman, when I made a witch-like abyss sorcerer in DS1. All my other characters are old bearded men, mostly casters of some sort with a few pure warriors, a handful primary STR guys and just a couple DEXy warriors. Of them I think my favorite to play was my DS1 pure pyromancer. I wanted to see if it was at all possible to mainline pyromancies, so I stacked ATTN and health and used the Dusk Crown Ring to extend my casts. By AL I almost never used my blade, and didn't use a shield either. Just fastrolled through everything, with the highlight being a victory against Artorias in which he landed no blows on me. Shit was intense.

>>121637397
>Being invaded in the gutter on your first character

That is the work of demons, no mortal man could consciously do that to another.

50 mag insanity or 40/40 mag/fai ToB?

I can't decide

>>121636656
>area
Tomb of the Giants or Central Yharnam
>NPC
Solaire/Quelana for DaS1, and Eileen/Gerhman for BB. Haven't played DeS, and didn't like any of the NPCs in DaS2
>waifu
caster, or pure STR -- I get a kick out of seeing some petite girl swinging around an xboxhueg monster of a weapon
>manbeast
quality + pyro

>>121638618
God's Wrath isn't worth the investment.
Just go insanity and dump in INT.

Reading the DS3 pastebin this has me pretty concerned

>The player character will generally feel faster than in previous games

The deliberate lumbering movement of 1 was spot on imo. The lighting and blood also look weird and cartoony.

>>121639008
Looked ridiculously fast
In fact the game looks like Bloodborne, specially the environments

Also the switch back to MP is interesting

It's still going to be good, I'm not at all worried

>>121638984
But it's so inconveniencing to equip a different catalyst just to cast second chance.

Doesn't insanity do better damage with light weapon?

At the stats listed above, which will do more damage with, say, ignite? Do you happen to know?

>>121639284
>>121639008
they turned off equip load for the demos, you're seeing the 0.00% equip load movement regardless of your gear

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>>121636656
>Area?
entire boletaria archstone.

>NPC?
Ostrava,Biorr,Lautrec,Crestfallen(das1)Garl and Astraea,Maiden in Black, i like almost everyone in des and das1. in ds2 i like the talking head vengarl and thats all.

Wifu or Manbeast?
Rhea,Gwyndolin and cof cof ostrava cof, i'm not sure if i have homo feelings for him but i like him more than any npc, i miss him more than anyone, and Oscar, his spiritual sucessor was cut

>>121638915
>and didn't like any of the NPCs in DaS2

Really? I know it is subjective but Straid was hilarious, Lucatiel was depressing (in a good way) and Pate and Creightons thing was brilliant. None of them appealed to you?

>>121639695
>gwyndolin
>waifu

>>121639598

I'm not talking about what people played in the stress test. The game director actually said the game will be faster. Also the lighting and general look of it won't change when it's pretty much complete.

>>121639823
>Pate and Creightons thing was brilliant.
>help creighton
>he laugh and disappear forever
meh, its just ''lautrec gets revenge on patches'' anyway

>>121639398
If you're using ToB only for Second Chance, it's better to just have it on a off-hand slot/swap to it.
Here's a chart to help you see the difference between the catalysts and also with magic boosting gear.

http://www.geocities.jp/kouryakubo/ds_en/others/magicofvalidation.html

>>121639823
Any affection I had for Lucatiel was gone by the time I finished escorting through several bosses
She makes Ostrava seem like the ultimate warrior

>>121639823
>Straid
cool guy
>Lucatiel
frustrating more than tragic
JUST EAT THE FUCKING EFFIGY
HERE LET ME SHMUSH IT IN YOUR FACE
IT DOES THIS, LOOK *psshh*
JUST DO IT YOU BITCH
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Pate and Creighton
cool until the super-lame ending to their quest ruined them

>>121639823
They're appealing but just super forgettable

>>121639906
>The game director actually said the game will be faster

To be honest I'm cool with that. I love DaS's and DeS's slow methodical feel, but I loved the shit out of Bloodborne's quick frenetic take on the formula, and getting some of that in good old medieval Souls sounds brilliant.

>>121640051
With the exception of Smelter Demon, who is a prick, I never found I needed to babysit her.

>>121640078
>Lucatiel
Made me kek

>Pate and Creighton
I liked hearing about them both after you decided to help one.

>>121640272
i think bb is too fast imo desu senpai senpai m8

>>121640378
creighton was alright but pate was just the fusion of crestfallen and patches
he even says a line from crestfallen of das1 when he is fighting creighton(not too shabby i think)

>>121640378
it would have been better if you could find the survivor and beat their ass after they booby-trap you, but as it stands it's anticlimactic as fuck

>>121640112
>FEEBLE CURSED ONE is forgettable

Your opinion so I can't change it but I strongly disagree that, at the very least, Straid is forgettable.

>>121640602
damn straid calm the fuck down it's not like I don't have 50 INT jesus

>>121640594
That's true, a future reckoning would have been sweet.

>>121640378
I actually never have any trouble with Smelter but she still consistently dies against The Rotten unless I'm very aggressive

P&C weren't very interesting on their own, more to do with subverting expectations

>>121639990
I don't understand what I'm looking at. Damage represents magic adjust? And this is only tested with 50/24 mag/fai?

If so this is almost useless to me.

Obviously if I was going for investment in ToB, I would also use wraith. I really just need something to see the adjust differences with variable stats to make a cleaner decision.

>>121634183
I like DaS2 the most because it accommodates dicking around more than the other games. You can teleport where you want when you want, it's easier to play with friends, and invasions are more frequent since you can be invaded as a hollow and you can be invaded after killing a boss. IMO there were a lot of small changes that added up to be greater than the negatives like relatively bad graphics and no full orbs.

>>121640772
Completely the opposite for me, the Rotten is easy as hell. I usually kill him before either of us get to 3/4 health. Smelter consistently makes me chug estus and need to pull him off Lucatiel.

>>121640772
I agree. Though I liked how incompetent Creighton seemed.

>Souls has critically acclaimed combat system
>Even people who dislike the games overall grudgingly compliment the combat
>nobody ever tries to rip it off

>>121641220
lords
of
the
fallen

Which one was the actually evil one?

Pate or Creighton?

Pate seems like a dindu, but I can't write off Creighton's story entirely

>>121641220
What was the name of that game again?
You know, the souls-clone

>>121641382
i think both

>>121641148
>invasions are more frequent since you can be invaded as a hollow and you can be invaded after killing a boss

I thought that was a shit design choice. I can understand how you'd like it but I hated how you couldn't control it. In DS1 you had to be unhollowed to be invaded, which had the benefit of opening up summons. It was a tradeoff of help in exchange for added danger and a player could keep interlopers out by staying hollow and accepting the limitations that presented, but in two you're just never safe, and I mostly found it fucking annoying.

>>121641382
Creighton is obviously evil and vicious
Pate may or may not be next level true mastermind evil though

>>121641382
Pate was a calculating killer, Creighton was just a lunatic. In terms of evil I would say Pate.

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>>121636656
>Area?
Best Latria most comfy Nexus
>NPC?
Onionbro
>Wifu or Manbeast?
Doll.

>>121641789
how can you like latria
everything sucks and
HHHHHAURURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
PLEASSSE
HELP ME

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>>121641382
Both are evil. Creighton is a manipulative snake who goads people into getting themselves killed so he can loot their corpses. Creighton's a straight up murderer who has the decency to kill you right to your face and who barely even tries masking his murder boner.

>>121641789
FACT:

BB has the best waifus
>Doll
>Eileen
>Iosefka
>Adella
>Arianna
>Yurie
let me know if anyone can think of a waifu that can EVEN POSSIBLY, EVEN TOUCH the above list

>>121641996
>tfw played in my cousins house
>tfw rushed everything and didn't enjoyed the game

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>>121641996
DaS has best husbandos though.

>>121642245
>Laurentius
>Solaire
>Seigmeyer
I suppose, but since I'm not gay I can't say for sure. I'll just take your word for it.
>>121642154
you mean you didn't want to buy a $400 game :^)?

>>121642364
you have bad taste

nothing from that shit game is good

>>121642364
In terms of horny girls
Arianna >>>>> Chloanne

I had to spend a good 30 seconds on remembering what Chloanne's name even was

>>121642437
You're welcome to your opinion anon. Now please leave game wars out of here. This thread is going so well.

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>>121642245
>Wanting to take Kirk's thorny thistle-cock
>Not Logan's thick, piercing Soul dick, said repeatedly in legend to rival even Gwynn's

>>121642364
shit taste.

>>121642154
being poor must suck

>>121642660
she's taken
>wanting to c.uck Garl Vinland

>>121642385
yea, i dont like consoles.
if at least i could play in my monitor, but he is too old to have hdmi entrances
imagine what demon's souls could have been on pc, it have better graphics than ds1 on consoles,and some other things with physics like giant chains.

>>121642696
pc
masterrace

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>>121641954
Latria is great
The only flaws it has are no shortcuts to the swamp and 3-3 being a stairwell (that's not a flaw unique to Latria though)
It's one of the most innovative and unique areas in the series

>>121642583
The fringe gets me, can't help it.

>>121642385
I somehow really liked Domhnall of Zena.

>>121642583
>Arianna >>>>> Chloanne

Well duh, she's a prostitute.

>>121642776
no, he put the pussy on the pedestal

literal white knight

>>121642776
Garl Vinland, the friendzoned white knight of eternal chastity you mean

>>121642819
Latria is unmatched so far IMO.

>>121640893
The spell Soul Arrow was used as the test spell. The damage is how much damage Soul Arrow did in correlation to all the other factors. For example if you look at the last row at the bottom of the page you can see that Soul Arrow can do 731 damage if you slap on all that gear and such. Some spells/miracles mostly have no use of Magic Adjustment like Second Chance, so that might not be of big worry.

tl;dr- That chart shows how much Magic Adjust certain gear has over other. Insanity has the most power and magic adjustment potential out of all, but restricts your MP and can only cast Spells. If you're alright with marginally less power but the ability to cast both Miracles and Spells that output damage, then ToB.

>>121642803
If you master race is so dominant, why the jealousy?
>>121642896
Doesn't change a thing, desu
>>121642864
ay simwae

>>121642776
still waifu material senpai.

>>121642819
its so disgusting
miyazaki made the first part of archstone himself btw, dont know about the rest.

>>121643028
things were different back then. wk did get pussies.

>If you master race is so dominant, why the jealousy?

jealousy of what

>>121643008
>>121643028
>implying they didn't smash in the poison swamp
>implying that having white armor literally makes you a white knight
/pol/ has melted your brains

>>121643079
>ay simwae
>It´s even in the urban dictionary

>>121643043
the problem is that was only tested with 50/24 mag/fai

I would really like a calculator so I can see the adjust values for myself. Sadly, I don't think one exists.

>>121643257
no it isn't

>>121636284
lots of developement issues, will probably be cancelled soon

>>121643428
http://de.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Aye%2C+siwmae.

It fucking annoys me that the Vanquisher's Seal is locked so far into the game. I hate having to clear multiple zones as a caster or something to farm Awestones, and then respec to be a fighter. I want to set up a non-awful fist run from basically the getgo

>>121643832
so it is, I didn't think to search with a comma between the words

>>121643906
vanq seal is trash anyway
bone fist or even dual caestuses do more damage even uninfused

>>121641680
I can see where you're coming from. I liked being able to burn effigies to keep out invaders, but the lack of a real tradeoff for being human/hollow was kind of annoying.

>>121639906
it's good, it's coming back to des speed, tired of reading dumb shit like "the methodical slowness of das2", fuck that

>>121644137
yeah but those are even FURTHER into the game, and I want to do a bare-fisted, monk run.

I'm mad as fuck over how hard they nerfed the Vanq Seal, as well

>>121641996
Amelia.

>>121644419
>furries
>>>/trash/

I love this new board, based Hiro

>>121641680
>but in two you're just never safe
that's what I thought at first but in practice invasions were practically dead for human form players, next to no chance to be invaded in hollow form

>>121644291
how is dual caestus locked even further into the game
melentia sells them and there's usually enough titanite available to reinforce them whenever you're not doing enough damage, or stones to infuse

>>121644554
I got invaded pretty reliably and /d2g/ got strangely upset at me when I said this
And that was on PC

>>121644689
Sorry, I meant that the Dragon Bone Fists are farther into the game.

And Caestuses just aren't the same. Vanq Seal had the potential to be literally all I ever wanted, but they fucked it up by locking it so far into the game, and then nerfing it to the point of uselessness

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>>121644419

>>121644481
Hey man, if you're going to get a boner over a vidya grill you may as well go for something exotic.

>>121645009
>animals
>girls

Help me
I can't get into dark souls ii at all.

I played it when it first came out for maybe 100 hours, but every time I die and lose souls I can't help but feel that I'm wasting soul memory, it makes me not want to play the game. Coupled with the fact that I have the base game, not SotFS and so there are absolutely no fucking summon signs anywhere.

How do I get into this game?

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>tfw killing a cheesing arena faggot by doing that one attack over he cant seem to avoid over and over again
>Tfw feeling the frustration seep through the screen as he just cant use any of his cheap tactics because he has been outcheesed
Its times like these that make this game golden.

On a related note:
>tfw using great heal against a guy who always black cryStals after any heal
>tfw using it just to retrieve a ssliver of health knowing that it will cause him to tap out every time

>>121645213
get good

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>>121645275
miracles are amazing for salt, even in ds1

>>121645213
1. Get SotFS
2. Get Gud

>>121645213
stop being so anal about the ded gaem you're playing and enjoy your lonely PVE journey
or let bamco fuck you in the ass and buy SotFS

>>121645481
>>121645518
epic

those fucking jews want $30 for me to upgrade
that's unreasonable when I already paid 60 for the fucking game.

>>121645213

It's impossible, Anon. SM was what finally made it hard for me to enjoy the game.

>>121641382
Both are horrible people; Pate is trying to pull a Patches on you, and Creighton is a serial killer back home. I will admit that I helped Creigton in the end and kill Pate, not because I believed him to be the better person, but because Pate was dumb enough to give me his armor.

>>121645636
If you've only got the base game, the $30 covers each of the 3 DLCs + the enemy replacement, Aldia, and balance patch

>>121645636
Welcome to offline souls, grind and get good.

>>121645636
astute observation my friend
we all knew this sort of shit was coming when Bamco picked up DaS1
It will get worse, much worse

>>121645213
Why do you care about SM if you literally can't experience online play?

>>121645781
OH AND THAT'S ANOTHER THING

GRINDING IS POINTLESS EVERY ENEMY DESPAWNS

>>121642819
Latria is the only area in any of these games to really creep me out. When I first got there, after exploring around for a bit, I thought "what the hell is going on here?"

Then there was the giant heart.

What's you least favorite boss battle?

Now, improve it and make it good.

>>121646035
I FUCKING HATE THIS ABOUT DAS2
>90% of all armor sets in the game must be farmed from enemies
>90% of all weapons in the game must be farmed from enemies
>enemies despawn after you kill them 15 times
>item discovery is a huge clusterfuck, and got a huge smack from the nerf bat with respect to DaS1
FUCK YOU BTEAM. I SHOULDN'T BE PUNISHED FOR BEING UNLUCKY BY BEING FORCED TO GO INTO NG+ CYCLES WITH YOUR STUPID FUCKING AESCETICS

how do you bind jump to run + tap B in dark souls II, I have to bind it to a key

>>121646035
lel I forgot about this, thank B team for this, also is likely you will end playing the game with half of your health because you can't co-op either.

>>121646246
Royal Rat Authority
Not sure how to make this one better, at best he would still fight like a Sif or Aava clone, it's just the nature of his body's geometry

>>121646262
Covenant of Champions mate

Iron Passage is such fucking ass, jesus christ.

How the fuck do you even do this bullshit?

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>>121636656

>Area

Tie between Anor Londo and Shrine of Amana

NPC: Quelaag's sister and Onionbro

>>121646262
>>item discovery is a huge clusterfuck, and got a huge smack from the nerf bat with respect to DaS1
they've decided to fuck up so many working systems, I don't understand that
item discovery was simple and straight forward, poise was reliable and straightforward (but flawed), SL was easier to control than SM etc ...

>>121646451
>bullshit system
>all you have to do to get around it is play in DaS2's version of perma-gravelorded mode :^)
gee fucking thanks bteam, real nice "solution" to a problem that has no reason to exist in the first place

>>121646521
>likes shrine of amana
what

>>121646626
I wasn't saying its a good solution, just that its better than asceticing an area since you can renege on the covenant.

>>121646682
Shrine of Amana is pretty as fuck. Stop and take a look sometime, it's gorgeous. Especially in SotFS, the torch reflections off the water look fantastic

>>121646682
Not him but I love the singing and general feel. The enemies are annoying but it really has an otherwordly feel.

>>121646428
The only right answer, Royal Rat Authority is simply broken.

>>121646506
To be honest I got so fucking pissed at it that I slaughtered the mobs until they despawned and then just strolled to the boss. It took way too long and was super dumb, but it felt kind of good.

>>121646682

The enemies were annoying but the overall environment was pretty as fuck.

>>121646731
that's another thing
>Bluebros get cockblocked fucking maximum hard
>reds get to eat shit outside the arena
>same for dragonbros
>ratbros are dead
>chasm of the abyss pvp dead
>no penalty for leaving a covenant at any time
how do you fuck up covenants worse than their sorry state in DaS1 I dont understand

Also, why the FUCK was the random merchant in the Iron Keep in charge of the dragonbros instead of the ANCIENT FUCKING DRAGON????????

>>121646506
My first reaction to that area was
>this isn't too bad
>THEY'RE CASTING TWOP??????????????????????????????????? HOLY FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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what's the das icon supposed to be?

>>121646682
Would you abduct a miflanito anons?

Who here likes the armor clinking noises better in DaS2 than in DaS1?

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>>121647423

>>121646246
Graverobber Gangbang
I refuse to improve it, this fight is a unique monument to terrible design and it deserves to exist to prove that video games can indeed be art

>>121647430
I would just to ask why they see fit to have 3 hollow pyromancers with 10,000 HP and infinite casts inside their house

>>121647532

Well that looks nice but completely inappropriate for such a small icon. The 2 bonfire was much better

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>>121647430
does this cutie count?

>>121647423
>>121647532
>>121647661

Should've just had the Oscar/Knight Helm

>>121647637
Ha, they were proper bell ends. I would assume it is because they seem so defenceless. They don't do shit but sit on their ass and sing. If they were in our reality we would call them bums.

>>121647806
Yup

>>121645213
you can't enjoy a shit game? who would have thought

Fuck this kuck bullshit im in team /chestersjestpiece/ now.

>BIud Born posters got bunned from here
>Posts got deIeted the past few threads
>4kings and Menas gIory aII around
>PeopIe that say "DS SO BAD GAEM" getting B T F O'd every time

This /dsg/ is getting pretty nice now that the autists are guaranteed to read these spoiIers and Iose EVERY time :^)

>>121647598
I hated das2 for always going for gangbangs of enemies to make it exxxxtra hard but not this one, at least they gave you an area that was not a flat empty arena to fight and split them

REMINDER:

Tower Shield + Longsword + Quality == Best Build in DaS1

We legionairre now

>that palpable moment of terror when dusk waifus see you use GMB

delicious

>>121647598
graverobber ganksquad is actually pretty fun to fight tbqh familia

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post your best screenshot

>>121648181
That's why I have the double boosted great combustion bub

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>>121648337
This actually happened though.

>>121648462
Time to snikt some bubs, bub

>>121648082
What's irritating about the fight is that there isn't a whole lot of different ways to do it, very little room for error and its against three DaS2 NPCs who like all their kind, flagrantly break rules

>>121648690
i'm not your bub, bub

>>121645117
>vidya
>grills

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>>121648337

I have a lot I like but this caught my eye this time.

>>121648759
I'm not YOUR bub, bub

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Just noticed that Giants helm looks pretty good with Guardian chest.

>>121648145
>REMINDER:
>FACT:

We're ignoring you just like your parents have your whole life even though you'll probably be with them into your 40s

>>121648735
Oh god, ds2 npcs. The red before undead purgatory. Good luck melee if you have < 50 poise break.

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why would the artists put a branch on the elevator?
it's made out of planks, not gnarled roots

>defeat a sipper without healing once
>taunt them by using all your estus flasks
I love being a dragon remnant

>>121649079
TINY
HEAD

>>121649171
Anon, be nice. We all soul bros here. Being mean shows your own insecurities. Save it bub.

>>121649185
>>121648735
I've seen numerous SotFS npc reds that chug estus on me. Who thought that this was a good idea?

>>121649190
C L I P P I N G
L
I
P
P
I
N
G

>>121643280
Ok I just did some testing at 50/50 just to avoid spreading any bad info.
ToB can be generally better if you put in the stat invest, though at 50/50 it's kinda not that far ahead than Insanity. And there are some spells where the ToB is just flat out worse than Insanity even at 50/50.
For example I buffed a Crashing Long Sword +5 with Light Weapon from both ToB and Insanity and with ToB it was hitting for around 340-470 on counterhits while with Insanity it was hitting around 405-560+ on counterhits. With Ignite ToB would do more damage but by like 20 points or so.
So it depends on the spell. ToB will generally be the better option or the second best, also there's some factors with certain spell like Cursed Weapon where you might wanna use a Cracked ToB, but that's another thing. I apoligize for any confusion.

>>121649247
Nah, just fuckmassive chest. That character has the large upper body build and the guardian chest is larger than most.

>>121649413
Why not? You can, and if you let them it is your own fault. G I T G U D

>>121649596
>why is it a bad idea to let invaders chug
gee i dont know senpai

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>>121649574
>tfw when my fashion was called fatshion ;_;

>>121649746
They are npc senpai, you can cheese them much easier.

>>121649171
Did you count on hurting the feelings of people you weren't even directly addressing?

Because you have you know.

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>>121648337

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>Lost Izalith
>The fucking bright as shit lava

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>>121648337
I'd only been playing for about a week.

>>121649185
>>121649413
Not sure why you guys bothered to mention that stuff when Maldron the Assassin exists

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>>121648337

>>121650227
because Malrdon is a fucking ingeniously designed encounter that all future souls games should take as an ideal example on how to design a dickass hostile npc encounter

Steam doesn't let you message people without adding them to a group or friends, right?

>>121650227
>>121650436
I really liked mauldron but he still had some plain bullshit going on (fuckhuge health and damage for instance)

>>121650467
Yeah, need to add them. Shame, I love delicious salt and steam prevents it.

>>121650436
Don't get me wrong, I love the guy but he is the biggest cheater in the game

>>121647806
what is that?

>>121650173
That's why I go chaos servant every time
>save the Fair Lady
>save Solaire
>skip Izalith
literally no downsides

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>>121648337
that day was crazy

>>121650635
>>121650647
Also GOAT is the NPC invader who casts chameleon and hides as a box in Eleum Loyce -- fuck any and all players that spoil the surprise with messages next to his spot

>>121649546
Thanks for the info.

I heard people talking about the stiletto being buffable on /bbg/ and it made me want to make close range mage around it. Given the difference on light weapon and only a slight difference for ignite, I will probably go for insanity, especially since mana pool won't be an issue at all.

The other option would be to go with a hypermage, probably with NR and lava bow. That kind of build seems more suitable for ToB since you're not relying on light weapon and because you're going to have a lot of stats free from not investing in vit though.

>>121650854
cute sword :3

>>121651075
Him and Maldron were pretty funny.

someone told me that Sotfs ruined Lost Bastille, having only played Sotfs I don't know how and I'm curious why, anyone care to tell me the changes?

>>121651203
thanks its the astora's straight dagger

>>121650854

Bob Ross is that you?

>>121650012
>>121650326
>>121650219

I miss GFWL messages. Steam just isn't the same. Too few people know about the recent played player list or bother to add you.

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>>121650012
>>121650326
This is still my all time favorite.

>>121650854
you can see the ski slopes in the background

is that the aslyum backdrop or the painted world backdrop?

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>get invaded by bluefag in Sif forest
>hide behind the large doors
>5 minutes later he finally decides to check inside
>wait until he's right in front of me and alt+f4

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>>121648337

>>121652079
Stupid effeminate faggot

stop playing as girls

how am I gonna get a DaS GF when gayboys like you are running around

>>121652206

No.

>>121651946
below the undead asylum.

>>121652248
I bet you like sucking dick

admit it

tell me all about your love of cocks

>>121652362
i suppose the jailers like to ski in their spare time.

>>121650918
I never saw a problem with that. I thought all those messages were warning me about the chest.

>>121652451
sounds like you are projecting pretty hard m8

thats not the only thing thats hard YOU RANDY FUCKING TWAT

>>121651903
kek

>>121652451

No.

>>121651903
This was pretty funny.

>>121652451
Of course. Sometimes I even enjoy putting dicks in my vagina.

>>121652206
As a ds playing grill, you are not wanted anyway.

>>121652458
this is how oscar ended up saving you
he was skiing and chill and then he said ''damn i am in on a undead asylum''

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gee that was a good fight

>>121653201
go rp somewhere else faggot

>>121653745
>Pilgrim Bellclaire

I guess any fight where you get carried hard is a good fight huh

>>121653852
I think it was sarcasm

>>121653852
I guess I have to take off all my clothes and beat the bosses using only my fists to make you happy, huh?

I'll keep playing the game the way I want to play it.

>>121654215
>cant handle the bantz

Why don't you summon a phantom to help you dry those tears

>>121653772
You're making the question of how you're going to get a DaS girlfriend even harder to answer with each post.

>>121654354
>implying you can change my mind

>>121654442
I wasn't that guy. Im gay.

>>121654476
Don't worry
I'm not deluded enough to think you can turn a child into a man with mere words

>>121654589
>NO TRUE SCOTSMAN HAS EVER USED A SUMMON IN DARK SOULS
ok buddy, sure

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>>121654715
oh lawd

>>121654715
>>121654846
You're both acting like little girls. Bitch fight.

>>121654507
You both have a habit of not capitalizing the start of your sentences and not punctuating the end. It makes it very easy to mistake each of you for the other.

>>121654937
I'm just 'avin a giggle, he's the one being all BUT IT'S MY CHOIIIIICE

This site has really changed

OK, marketerfag

Please break down to me in detail how to git le good

I'm at Iron Passage. I'm 100%ing this fucking game for Dark Souls 3. How do I get through Iron Passage

>Benhart of Jugo has a thick Scottish accent
>The Desert Sorceresses are from Jugo
>This means Desert Sorceresses also have thick Scottish accents.

>>121654954
But I did last time.

>>121655079
The challenge paths in the DLCs aren't meant to be solod you know

They can be solod but they weren't designed to be

>>121655079
Just try and run through the long way, though the first room always tends to be the toughest. In my experinces,, if you are able to make it through the first room you'll be able to get to Blue Smelter, all my runs were either Die in First Room or Get to Smelter, no in-between.

>>121655235
hahaha

that would be nice

if i could summon actual people, and not the paper npcs

Fuck Iron Passage.

whats with the praying skeletons and crude make shift barrier just before nito? (lore)

>>121655160
And that helped for last time.

>>121655417
Fuck this entire game.

Iron Passage encapsulates EVERYTHING about Dark Souls 2.

>>121655069
And your the one being all NOO YOU HAVE TO DO IT THE WAY I SAY

Like I said, pair of fannies. Anyway let's not get bogged down in shitposting, though I am certain it was your intention.

>>121655489
Probably some cult that worshiped him. In terms of story importance, Nito really doesn't have anything going on.

>>121655532
The area is way harder than the Smelter Demon.

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is this door worth it

>>121655552
Untrue, I was merely pointing out his way of doing things and making snide remarks in a rather mild fashion

Thanks for getting highly upset over minor things for the sake of other people though, very tumblrlike

>>121655732

Yeah dawg. Use all in that room.

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>>121655750
Thanks for being a dick!

>>121655750
Actually, I am just fed up of shitposting ruining this general. There are boards to shitpost on. This should be a comfy thread and it has been mostly.

I summon phantoms when I need my dick jacked off

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>>121648337

>>121655948
Thanks for contributing to the thread in a meaningful fashion!

>>121655989
So basically you hate when others shitpost but you're okay doing it yourself as well as being the judge jury and executioner of shitposting, is that right? Wonderful, I hope you keep in mind how well you 'defused' this situation the next time your moral superiority boner rises.

>>121656235
You're right, so I will shut my hole and just try to keep the thread comfy m8. Nothing against you, just shitposting. Peace.

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Does anyone else roleplay a rape victim with as a deprived?

>>121656524
I don't know why this made me laugh so much, the pic and the idea. I imagine all souls games worlds are rife with rape desu.

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>some perfectly normal teasing about phantom summoning
>HOLY SHIT YOU CAN'T SAY THAT IN A CHRISTIAN GENERAL
>thread goes full fucking redditumblr

Yeah I think I'm done here
Was fun while it lasted guys

>>121656524
Disgusting.

>>>/r9k/

>>121656796
>Someone disagreed
>I can't take the pace
>Quick blame reddit and tumblr

>>121656796
>in reality
>"u r le shit lol"
>fuck off retard
>"wow can't handle my epic bantz"

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I tried to take a screenshot of Lucatiel helping me just to upset more autists but it came out all wrong.

Such a comfy thread, thanks everyone!

I finally have a rig that's capable of playing Dark Souls 1.

Anyone want to do a co-op playthrough with someone whose never played DaS1 before?

>>121658029
depends, how active are you and at what times?

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>that petrus spin
yes

>>121658195
I'm east coast US, and I can spend large times playing.

I also have access to skype/ts if you'd wish to speak while we play.

My steam is: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Tripsaur/

>>121658505

What the fuck is that? Is that how bad DaS is on consoles?

>>121658578
I should mention I share the account with my brother, but he rarely uses it.

He played some today, I plan on making a new character.

>>121658578
>http://steamcommunity.com/id/Tripsaur/
>never played Dark Souls 1
>Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition
>200 hours played
added 8)
no really

>>121658662
The hud or?

>>121659238

Yeah the hud is atrocious. Even the textures look worse somehow.

>>121659324
Its PC. That hud is modded. I'm sure you've made its designer feel good about their tastes.

>>121659324
Yeah thats PC, im not sure if the world is modded either

>>121659238
>>121659324
>>121659662
>>121660064
I don't remember white-gold rocks near Petrus.

>>121660064
Probably is. People who destroy their hud usually already have all texture packs available.

Looking at that reminds me of that pic with the internet police dude and his browser full of toolbars.

Nexus was a mistake.

>>121659324
>>121661125
what is so bad about it

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>FinaIIy get to lron Keep
>Read Iast piece of armor for current buiId is here
>CIimb up Iadder to the mimic
>2 hits before it starts moving
>RoII back
>He Ieaps 50 FEET RlGHT lNTO THE KEEP
>See drop in there
>Can't be reached at aII
>Disappears about 6 seconds after

WouId anyone have an extra Dark Armor (just the chest piece) they are not using for their buiId? ls there anything you wouId want for it?

Don't have many good weaps but do have 11 twinkIing and 6 pet. bones and some earIy boss souIs. You can have any of them for it.

576k on PS 3 if you couId drop a sign!

>>121661464
>ps3
just stop, help is not coming

>>121661324
everything except for the box with the number of souls

>>121661464
Is this pasta? Starting to seem like it.

>>121661578
the stamina/hp counter is alright

>>121661464
I've seen this, verbatim, several times now.

>>121651903
That guy has a really funny youtube channel

>>121661545
>just stop

What can you do about it though? Nothing right? Every post is the same right? Where you can't do a thing about it?

LOOOOOOOLLLLLLLL :^) :^)

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>>121662605

>>121662947
>Can't come up with anything

Check. Mate. LOOOOLLLLLL :^)

Having problems with the lost sinner, how git gud?

>>121663471
for the love of god refund before its too late.

fuck it may actually be

the game is not worth it at all

>>121663471
you probably havent levelled adp enough. get your agil to what was it 105? that. then i frame her. strafe right (or was it left?)

>>121663669
Game was gift, no refunds, no backing out, only gud

>>121663705
Wut

>>121663471
Have you lit the two sconces on either side of the boss fog?

>>121663669
He didn't say BIud Born, Anon.

>>121664654
you havent shitposted at all this thread. im awaitng the anti 4kings faeces to start soon.

>>121665058
4kings is great. BIud Born is shit.

>According to everyone ever

>>121663960
He means put points in adaptability to level agility and get more iframes for rolls (iframes means how much time you are invincible during a roll). 99 agility is enough though. 105 is overkill in my opinion.

>>121664605
not sconces, oil pipes but yeah that would help. I think she is slower when the room is lit as well.

>>121664605
No. I'll do that now.

>>121666120
You can do that? Shiiieeeeeeet

In DS2 what consumables can invaders use?

>>121663471
You can always summon.

>>121666538
idk the full range, but my favorite is lloyd's talisman.

>>121666348
You knew what I meant, you nignog. It's okay, I still love you.

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>>121666918
y-you too

Anyone have an extra BIack Scorp Stinger under 1m SM?

lf you +5'd it you can have the stones for it you used but reguIar is fine. PS trippuI and you can drop a sign anywhere. lf you need something or some bro op drop a sign too.

>>121666348
>>121666918

You are both right dummies, the oil pipes will lit the sconses.

>There's a fucking 60ft sword lodged in the wall a floor beneath the Pursuer
>The Giant Lord's sword is only like 30ft

What

>Beat DSII countless times times. (about 400 hours playtime in total)
>Finally say fuck it and get Scholar of the First Sin on the PC.
>Play just like my first run on Vanilla
>Spend like 30~ hours farming shit, finding all the new things.
>Saving all the DLC areas for the end.
>Gather all the souls.
>Decide to get Nashandra's Soul and return to bonfire and go get my boss weapons.
>Kill Nashandra.
>Ok, time to get boss weapons AND START PLAYING THE DLC AREAS.
>Dis nigga, dis fuggen Aldia nigga show up.
>Push his shit in.
>Dis nigga gonna force come nigga choice on me.
>Bone out.
>Loading Screen.
>Still in throne room.
>Err... k
>Feather out.
>Loading Screen.
>Still in the throne room.
>Not cool man.
>Kill myself.
>Loading Screen.
>Still in the fucking throne room.
>Try walking out, maybe it lets me go to Majula.
>Credits roll.
>Unistall.
>Delete save.
I'm done. I'm literally never touching DSII again in my life, fuck DLC, don't even feel like doing the shit any more.

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>>121667885
Uhh, those are statues, the sea-facing portion of the castle had large statues of knights holding swords. they got broken during the invasion.

tl;dr they were decor, they didn't belong to anyone.

>>121667885
It was a sword that was part of a massive statue, one of which lost its head, which is the holder of the fog gate to Pursuer. The statues came apart due to the siege engines attacking Drangleic

>>121667857
Don't test me, boy; I'll love you tenderly as fuck too.

>>121668084
>>121668092
That should've been obvious to me

>>121668108
>tbqh
That's not the meme and you fucking know it.

>>121668195
I think the giant rocks that separate the Pursuer's area is actually a head from one of the statues. Its the same one that rolls over in the memories.

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>>121668084
>>121668092
Honestly, that was probably one of the coolest things with DaS2, was noticing that the FotFG was the areas you went to in the memories. Seeing how the statue head got there, and realizing that the drangleic set was on Drummond's corpse, helmetless, because he gave his helmet to you

>>121668241
I know senpaitachi smhtbqh

>>121668518
Fucker got me. God damn you Jackie 4chan!