/agdg/ -- Amateur Game Dev General

First for no ideas

>>121562786
i cant think of one atm as well

Are these AGDG?

Walkerman ( https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=454755709 )

Storm Worm ( https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=311813502 )

Aviary Attorney

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Fourth for my horror game

>>121562786
are your ideas like gameplay wise? or story wise?

>>121562890
former, yes

>>121562930
perfect

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>>121562930
I like how that hand is holding that teeny tiny torch.

pixel progress

>>121562930
didn't you already fix the hand? why did it become shitty again

>>121562930
Those damn [spoiler:]fingers[/spoiler]

>>121562930
fov still too large
camera doesn't shake enough
8/10 would shit pants

so I just found a tutorial of someone who explained how to handle event_handler based Construct2 multiplayer netcode without using ridiculous "sync" bullshit and suddenly I am so excite for making game.

>>121563000
I mean, are any of them AGDG enough to stick on something like http://www.homph.com/steam/

>>121563008
>that tiny hat bob
10/10

>>121562930
>body horror
Nice.

>>121563120
no not really

>>121562840
https://soundation.com/t/d4k6l

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>source shoehorned into op yet again
youve been at this for two years
two years of your life are gone because of this, reek

you have to stop before we have to stop you

>>121563380
everything but unity UE4 and gamemaker should be remove from engine list or have a pastebin link with the hipster engines

>>121562786
Gameplay. I really want to do a fluid parkour game though

>>121563472
My own engine isn't hipster senpai

>>121562930

shame NINTENDO owns a patent to your game tbqh family

>>121563515
your engine isnt even engine lmao

>>121563512
Fuck I'm stupid, >>121563512
meant for >>121562968

>>121563472
at least the hipster engines are real engines and people use them

source is just a meme pushed by one dedicated nodev to enable pedophile furry posting so he can destroy agdg

even a casual glance at the archives will show you that this has gone on for years

it has to be stopped

>>121563629
>to enable pedophile furry posting

Is that egypt furry game made with source?

>>121563629
I would caution anyone, in any circumstance, from going to for-profit universities. They'll lure you in with the promise of a good job and approve you for loans at ridiculous rates while you're incapacitated with the promise of your dream career.
Trust me, if you're going to get an art degree, the only important thing is your portfolio. A graduate from Harvard with a shit portfolio will only be a Harvard graduate. You should go to the cheapest school that meets your needs, and I promise neither of these are it.
Full disclosure, I do game dev as a hobby, my career is in aviation. But a friend of mind went to for-profit schools that saddled him up with (no joke) $200,000 of student loans and he has the same job I do. I went to a state university and owe the school nothing after scholarships. Even without those scholarships, I would only be out about $40,000. The average endebtedness for my university is $22,000, so about 1/10 my friend.
TL;DR stay away from for-profit schools.

>>121563753
>I would caution anyone, in any circumstance, from going to for-profit universities
Indeed. Fucking vampires on society. It's a shame humanity let it get to that.

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Art style question

Which of these do you guys prefer? Assume the primary color would change depending on whether an object is enemy/friendly/etc and there was a bit more detail.

I'm trying to work out a visual style for my game and since I'm a crappy artist it's either something like this or pixel art so I'm trying to go for a more interesting look.

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Cut cut cut right

>>121563916
C

>>121563753
How are the interest rates? IIRC, my bank charges 2-2.5% every 6 months

>>121563943
Great shape work, good color work. Too many frames.

Hold (1-2 frames) Swing (1 frame) Follow through (0-2 frames).

>>121563916
I would go for A.
B looks interesting but it is too bleak in my opinion.

>>121563753
sick copypaste but why are you posting it

mothdan if ur reading this please save us from anime:source

>>121564086
That's only 6 frames. He holds it two frames, swings in 2, though there's a trail in the first of two followthrough frames. The follow through frames are cancelable.

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>mfw someone uses a pic I made for the OP post

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>>121563943
Because of how his body's twisting and whatnot I can't really quickly chop anything together, but like look at this.

Just removing 1 frame looks a fuck ton more powerful already, without really sacrificing anything.

>>121564275
i am reading
my network of pedo sniffers is working 24/7
they high powered rifles are ready

>>121563916
I personally like B, but A looks pretty cool.
A has this "shit's about to go down" vibe.

>>121564287
>only
And yet it's already weak as hell because of how he/you set it up. I mean feel free to ignore me since I'm a hack, but I've found it to be super valuable animation advice when other people pointed it out to me.

>>121564336
>reek falseflagging again because he's salty he went to full sail and dropped out after 1 semester
we all know when it's you

when it reeks, its reek

>>121564450
yes it was i the reek all along
i am very salty kekeke

So, why does pinging my localhost return 17?
shouldn't it be like 1ms or something like that if the packet isn't actually leaving my machine?

>>121564485
Well I posted my failed game tether 3d on steam, and people ripped it to shreds, then some british guy Jim Sterling, who makes fun of bad steam games, made a video about it and then I got a bunch of yes votes. My goal is to just wait it out and see if I can get it on steam, if not it'll be available on other platforms, and I'll just keep it out there for download for as long as the stores will have it.

>>121564419
>nodev trying to give shitty 2nd hand "advice" to yesdevs

yes yes youre a real games journalist. and you did nothing wrong. the police certainly aren't coming for you for what you did, " f a m " :)

>>121564550
It depends on how big your ISP is. If it's a small company, it'll take less time for the data to transfer there and back.

>>121564592
jim sterling stop promoting yourself here

Reminder to report him.

Mods will ban him and we'll get another pocket of peace before he comes back.

>>121564330
>>121564419
Not gonna ignore it, definitely considering it, trying different frame orders and details.

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>>121564550

>>121564675
this

if we report him enough times he will get range banned
maybe even get his country banned

doxxing and terrorist threads are not taken lightly by the U.S. government

>>121564727
no you must ignore all criticism it is reek shitposting
everything thats not "nice!" is reek and must be reported to the proper authorities!

>>121564636
Oh, so the packet does leave my computer... can I assume that if my game connects and sends to localhost that it will work to connect to other IP addresses?

>>121564636
>implying ISP could be relating to localhost pings
>implying localhost leaves the machine it's running on

>>121564823
Yeah, make sure to open as many ports as your router will allow you. This lets bigger packets come in, in case someone with a big computer wants to connect.

>>121564808
the problem is uses a range of VPNs hes been doing this for years
you can look in the archives hes been doing it since the birth of 4chan

>>121564814
I know you are kidding but why not roll it whole or in part into your next project? Also some screenshots of the art would be nice since you talk so much about it.

>>121564808
but the US is the biggest perpetrator of doxxing

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Reposting from old thread.
Project Euler, anyone?

Since i don't really have a game right now, this seems like a way to keep "in shape"...

>>121563943

what happened to the assless chaps?

>>121564823
No, and No.

The reason your ping is >1ms is probably related to the method you're using to calculate the ping. If the thread terminates before getting the result of the ping then necessarily the lowest ping it could have is related to how quickly the main loop cycles. 120hz (120 cycles per second) is an 8.6ms ping

>>121564897
Which boogeyman are we talking about? Mothan?

>>121564948
Where is your game??

>>121564814
he is just a salty bitter nodev who only knows how to use level editors and thinks hes a video games journalist for it

all his posts should be reported

hes been doing this for literally years, 16 hours a day, every single day, trying to destroy agdg

he even stalks and cyber-terrorizes yesdevs he can find outside of 4chan

>>121564948
Pretty useless for gamedev tbqhwy family

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>>121564814
Adults are trying to do work here.

>>121565002
idk which one
im just going along the conversation i just woke up

>>121564998
Better example: 60 Hz is a ping of 17.2 ms - exactly what he's seeing.

>>121565080
*tips fedora*

>>121565189
glug glug danny glug glug

>>121565162
I think your best bet is to ask for help in sites like this one, Tigsource, IndieDB, Reddit, Twitter and any others you can but don't expect too many people. In my experience, people are quick to promise to help and quicker to dissappear (even if you gave them a key).

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>>121564948
ofc

>>121565073
it's fun tho.
The problems are also not directly connected to enginedevving but they get you in the right mindset.

>>121565106
>>121564998
neat, my main loop is 30fps though.
do you add the main loop time of the client and server to get the loop hertz? so 30fps + 30fps = 60 hertz? or am I just messing with shit out of my comprehension?

>>121565260
>>>/g/dpt/

>>121565260
I've only started today, and i'm through 1-12. I don't remember why but 13 seemed to excessive when I was on the streak so I paused there.

The sense of accomplishment is great, and it teaches you to optimize.

>>121564814
http://strawpoll.me/5843812

>>121565260
Well here is the thing as a jewish immigrant I feel like you are spending way too much of your time with useless garbage, maybe you should learn from our fellow like Gogum and start actually working on things that matter, I only say this because I want everyone who uses this space the best.

Is this how useless generals like /brit/ gets started?

A couple people shitpost a ton, and others join in without any inclination to discuss the topic because it seems fun?

Don't get me wrong, I like /brit/ but it started as a shitposting thread

>>121565506
wow rude
this general isnt useless it helps monthdan cope with his mental issues

>>121565243
>glug glug

it's funny because this is your actual trigger

because youre an actual alcoholic who has cried to us about his mommy countless times and his failed game design degree

lmaoing at you and your life right now

>>121565506
The other week there was a ban/deletion of the posts of those 1-2 people, all over the thread.

AGDG immediately became a civil place, and it held all the way until his ban ran out. It's crazy.

>>121565506
/agdg/ has always been 95% shitposting 4% which engine do I use 1% babby's first pixel platformer progress

http://deadline.com/2015/11/zoe-quinn-crash-override-gamergate-memoir-amy-pascal-1201611420/
Friendly reminder - fucking guys can give you things.

>>121565596
glug glug clink clink danny i am triggered time to drink sum more

I'm drinking minty shit and coke right now
>I can't code for shit while drunk
>I am drinking to forget the fallout 4 spoilers posted here earlier today.

you drive me to drink senpai

>>121565341
B-but anon, i'm not a qt trap programming in haskell, why would i go to dpt?

>>121565357
If you have a linux box you can pretty much just cheat number 13 with bc, that's what I did when I first came across it. But i recently started making an arbitrary precision integer calculator library for the purpose of using it for Project Euler, it's not coming along as good as I hoped tho.

>>121565592
>everything is mothdans fault, its mothdans fault i couldnt make a game, its mothdans fault i went to full sail, its mothdans fault i still live with mommy
glug glug

>>121565686
rotate doesnt live with his mommy you retard
she bought him a house

Dude. Stop.

>>121565679
>>121565683
>reekfam's drunken rampage begins
go on, doxx another yesdev

maybe threaten to mail another bomb

its totally not like the fbi has a file on you now

>>121565762
clink clink senpai we already know it's you you don't have to put on a tripcode and pretend it was someone else all along

>>121565318
You are messing with shit out of your comprehension.

FPS = Frames per Second = The Rate at which a single graphical frame is rendered by your video card.

Tick Rate = How often your main loop cycles = Every time the code of the server iterates through its execution thread and starts back from the top.

Depending on the engine these may or may not be entirely unrelated things, but at the very least they are conceptually different.

>>121565762
>It wasn't me guys I promise

>You have to wait a while before reporting another post.
Damn it.

>>121565797
gogem pls stop being mad other celebs here get all the attention now

So when's the next aggiedaggie meetup scheduled?

dont summon him

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its 11 am
what you up to senpaitachi

The janny is coming. Cower in fear, shitposters.

>>121565865
Dude. Stop.

>>121565932
It's 3:49 AM famicon
Nothing like always.

>>121565932
retarded furries like you are worse then all celebs here and regular shitposters put together

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>looking for progress

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>>121565952
Dude. Stop.

>>121565845
I'm using gamemaker so step event is locked to the fps I set for the room.

I'm assuming they are the same in this case, but not for an engine which relies on deltatime.

correct?
and I was just wondering if that's how I was getting 60hz from.

thx for explaining senpai

>>121565889
Tuesday.

DEETZ @ Whatsapp AGDG.

>>121565994
you opened your war on furries
we don't actually spam the thread like weebs

>>121566063
>actually admitting to being furry
S
T
O
P

>>121566023
Another explanation is that you're starting the ping at around the halfway mark, or generally halfway between each time it's checked.

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>>121566009

>>121566130
just the reply i wanted

>>121565751
its a well known fact that reek/sourcefam/rotatedev drunkenly admitted to living with mommy and being an actual alcoholic because they failed out of a paid university for "games journalism"

just check the archives, its all there

>>121566171
is this that bear car driving game but without the funny aspect?

>>121566205
ahh you got me good lol

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>>121566171
is this a polished product?
in my agdg?

>>121566221
you mean archive.moe, which rotate/sourcefam actually found the owner of and mailed him threats to take it down?

>>121566221
Are rotatedev and sourcefam the same person?

>>121566279
Thanks for the boner.

>>121566171
Man that double jump anim.
Tuck in those legs and head maybe?

>>121566279
why the fuck do people keep posting that chick
she looks like the default unity cube with makeup

>>121566308
No.

>>121566171
Delightful. Love the concept too. Bear eating foods before winter.

>>121566171
the level of polish on this combined with the piss boring gameplay (and flat colored unity look) leads me to believe this is 100% asset store content

>>121566171
>that bush jiggle
Love it.

>>121566308
its was all me reek
im gonna take all your progress away
nobody will progress

>>121566346
so what? a lot of women look awful without makeup

when are you going to see her without makeup anyway? when you've been married for 30 years and she can't be bothered anymore?

fuck you

>>121566415
what the fuck
i mean her face is literally a cube

>>121566221
i don't think rotate is over 20

>>121566346
G A Y
A
Y

>>121566279
would fuck vine so hard

>>121566346
Olivia WIlde's jawline is an asset
I find her incredibly attractive

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>tfw discovering the power of lua

>>121566308
Yes

it's well known that rotate was jealous of yesdevs progress because hes stuck using source because he's an alcoholic and can't handle anything more complicated than the level editor from tony hawk

so instead of switching to unity like a normal person, he decided to ruin these threads whenever he could

thats what happens when you live at home and mommy lets you into her liquor cabinet to drink "minty shit" lmao

reports have been submitted and itll all be over for him soon when the fbi processes it

>>121566463
people have all sorts of different shapes and sized jaws. people also like things you don't like fucking get over it nerd holy shit

posting this unfunny shit on AGDG.

juststeamchatthings

>>121566468
rotate is born in 1998

>>121566489
umm her name is russel??

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>>121566346

>>121566530
tomorrow: discovering the limitations of lua

you're in for a rough time

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>>121566530
>lua
how about you learn a real language like c# sourcefam

or has the alcohol finally destroyed your brain completely

too bad it's still intact enough to shitpost about lua as if "wiremod" "contraptions" are real programming

i was lmaoing at your life but now its just sad

how is Processing for gamedev?

>>121566610
>>121566645
i'm not using it to make a game

i'm using it to allow modding

>>121566654
it's a joke language, really

>>121566695
>i-im not making a game im just making mods
modding is not gamedev just like your shitty level design is not game dev

how is Nimrod for gamedev?

how is Malbolge for gamedev?

how is C++ for gamedev?

>>121566806
better then haskell thats for sure

how is ur mum for gamedev ;)?

>>121566695
Like WoW extensions/plugins? Bots?

>>121566857
Stripe is easy and has a super sexy API + documentation

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>>121563990
I like C too, but I feel it's too generic maybe?
>>121564092
A feels more unique, I'm considering it moreso than the others
>>121564382
noted

what if I did something like this:
I'd need to re-write the shader to handle it, but each vertex could be in a different color allowing for patterns/shapes

I wanna get into ez gamedev
is source sdk my best bet?

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As another derail from the main game I got an idea:

Pic related. 2-player turn-based game. Center is the game grid, left and right - player statuses. The goal is for the left player (always starts first) to get to the right side or for the right player - to stop him (killing the opposing player works too). Every turn you can do 1 action - explore or move. Exploring reveals the targeted tile next to you without moving, while moving goes straight to it without knowledge of what is there. Moving into the enemy wins you the game.

Additionally, the tiles can contain items which would have an effect on how you move/state of the board - you would trigger them by stepping on their tile, which is why moving onto one without first exploring might have an impact on your success.

I'll probably try and make a prototype with an AI and see if it's any fun, and if so, probably integrate it into the main game. Until then, any thoughts?

>>121567134
supper ezze

>>121563916
C++

>>121566763
>i can't read

>>121567175
FEATURE CREEP

>>121567175
What if you raised the contrast so you don't have to squint

>>121567175
stick to the art style, looks great.

I'd have to see the game in action but it doesn't sound incredible.

>>121567175
this is like those old board games
good concept

>>121567175
>Until then, any thoughts?
stealing this idea and putting it on mobile faster than you'll finish your protoype

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Finally did a street level sweep of the world map in progress. Time to stop neglecting this. gfycat com/GoldenIcyGnat

Don't mind my webm, what with its horrible gif converted to webm framerate. Link is a different webm with a better idea of the scale of the worldmap.

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>>121567134
yeah just learn to use the carve tool its super easy

>>121567286
>shaming yesdevs
Can You Stop?

>>121563916
C is much more easier on the eyes.

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I'm interesting in raycast lighting for a 2D game in Unity. Is there any good and efficient package for this? I tried one and it was all sorts of buggy (it just shot in a bunch of directions evenly and blindly and hoped for the best, which is a no go).

>>121567332
>Anything that isn't "Nice!" is shitposting
stop please

>>121567286
what if you properly setup your monitor
but you have a point many people have poorly setup monitor

>>121567332
good luck marketing 20 year old tool to newdevs

>>121567360
yes buy it the unity asset store™ my good go--i mean friend

>>121567332
>>121567134
>>121567414
http://strawpoll.me/5939303/

>>121567379
why are you being so hurtful, man
wheres your game

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Greetings All,

We wanted to take the time to explain the situation our studio is in right now and why the newest patch has taken so long.

So after the launch of AGDG we continued support for as long as we could (about three months) but it soon became clear that the amount of revenue generated by the game and the cost we had incurred during development was not going to be able to keep us working on it. We got it fixed up as best we could then shifted focus to some smaller mobile projects (and I got a part time job) and that is what we have been doing for the last few months.

It has been a slow process, but we have gathered up a new team and just launched a Kickstarter for a new project: DPT. The goal of this project is to provide a way to hire on the studio staff full time to work on ALL our projects, including AGDG.

I wanted to get the patch out before launch but got hung up on nearly a week of Unity 5 upgrade issues and had to shift focus to helping the team with the kickstarter. Now that it has launched, I will be using the next few weeks to finally try and get this patch done.

Regardless of Kickstarter success, we should now be in a position to offer some more support on our games.

Thank you for your support and understanding

>>121567360
everything free on unity asset store is shit so make one yourself

>>121567314
Keep it up.

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Ok so it's likely between A and B
how do we feel about them with these kinda of palettes?
(also what if we combine the two)

>cant handle that he not only sucks at everything, even "design"
>"I was j-just trolling you I wasn't even t-trying"

does this look like the work of someone who is actually trying to make a game
>>121567332
Haha trolled senpai. I know how horrible this looks. That's why I drink and live with my mommy! Dude Minty Shit Lmao!

>>121567474
Remove the word free. Find ONE worthwhile thing in the Unity store. ONE.

>>121567457
oh you funny sonuvabitch i spoiled cofee all over my laptop
literaly me at 00:40 https://youtu.be/cmTGGpb5_Cw?t=40s

>>121567574
Bottom green has this kind of retro look to it.
Something you would se in Alien movie computers.

>>121567574
I really hate the green of the A pallete and much prefer the B's version, but otherwise like A.

I generally like B but mildly dislike the red ball.

If it requires cohesion, B, if mix and match, A with B's Green.

mothdan please save us from this anime engine shitposting

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Stop bullying Rotatedev!

>>121567754
maybe rotate should stop shitposting his stupid gmod screenshots literally all day every day

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>Spend all week getting one feature to work
>Weekend, perform some basic refactoring on not-good code
>That one feature now completely broken

>>121567606
https://www.assetstore.unity3d.com/en/#!/content/22369 this is nice
some of the skyboxes are pretty good
some of the huge model sets

Alright, so, new to 3D. I can model and stuff, but moving models into an engine and designing systems around those models is new to me. Would I be better off using Unity's mecanim systems or making the animations in my modeling software and calling them in the engine?

>>121567903
i have the same problem

>>121567574
its hard to say
the top are too bright while bottom ones look washed out
maybe make the bottom triangles blacker?

>>121567847
Well alright, that's pretty.

>>121568016
well at least on my 2nd monitor
on the 1st both look good

>>121567456
>http://strawpoll.me/5939303/
>"it makes shitters upset" has a solid lead
i dig it desu

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>>121567723
mm yeah but it's been done a lot (see geo wars)
I feel like it's the safe option maybe.

my game is pretty similar to geo wars so maybe that's a good idea...

>>121567729
I'm experimenting with the colors a tad, trying not to use solid 255,0,0s etc. to get a bit of a unique feel to it, I'll play with it some more.

I tried combining the two styles but they clash, which sucks because the outline style has a really nice energy feel to it, while the solid style has a more, well, solid feel. But the eye just doesn't like them in concert.

One nice thing about the outline style is I can have the outside be a different tone to the inside (note the orange one here, the outline is orange but the inside is actually red, which gives it a unique look)

I think I'll end up going with outline style.

>>121567903
my workflow

>make rig
>make moonwalk animations
>use action editor to rename and arrange them
>export mesh and animations with .fbx
>put everything in one folder and drag into unity
>make needed arrangements in unity
>make script in mono or vs

>>121568134
you suck at green color
the yellowish green on top is passable i guess

>>121568134
Definitely stick with outline, that's sexy as fuck.

>>121567474
>>121567440
Yeah, the one I saw was a poorly documented and clearly foreign, the guy knew stuff but it was just sloppy. The problem is I am not that good at Unity and game dev yet. All I know is that I need to raycast as in the pic I mocked up, and use multiply blending somehow (I'm mostly concerned with how you'd "darken" things like sprites and the background properly, as far as the concept goes). I think I basically just need to spend a lot of time with it to learn all the useful syntax in Unity which sucks.

>>121568165
Oh, neat. This is gonna sound stupid, as I am new, but by moonwalk animations you mean animations with origin at (0,0,0), right?

What's a .fbx? By needed arrangements, what do you mean?

Thank you though, this was a good starting place. Helped me calm down.

>>121568278
make normal or bump maps for your sprites and then play with unitys lights or make your own shader i guess

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>>121568016
the game is 2D sprites-ish so I won't be going for shading.

I'm just experimenting with the shader atm, I'll be attaching it to models in the real game

pic is kinda like what I'm going for, but the models are from an old game so they have too many polies

Does anyone know what makes UE4 ragdolls glitch out? The ragdolls on the example models work so well but whenever I make a model, the physics asset never works as well. The only problem I could figure out was needing a consistent bone hierarchy but even after fixing that, there are still other problems.

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>>121568283
yes moonwalk animations mean that the legs move but its only walking in place

fbx is a file extension you can export from your 3d software it can export the mesh plus the skeleton and all of your animations in one file which is very convenient

i use action editor to save datablocks and rename them to "Hitting Animation" etc to differ them in unity

position = lerp(position,end,lerpamount)
lerpamount = lerp(lerpamount,maxlerp,lerpacceleration)

>position = sin(bouncerate * time)

I'm learning.

Who are the bbest agdg-related devs to follow on tumblr? I tend to not follow people back whose posts aren't at least 50% dev. Non-dev posts include reblogging, videogame memes, memes etc.

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well that turned out looking cooler than I expected
I think my game has an artstyle!

>>121568730
Be sure to progressively blur things that aren't on the plane where the ship flies. Think microscope.

>>121567828
just revert to your last working commit.
Thats what fuckign version control is for.

>>121568283
needed arrangements meaning using the animation controller to blend between animation and make them loop in edit settings, those are the settings at least for me

Are tutorials bad if you're a beginner?

>>121569442
they are the worst
as a beginner you shouldnt watch/read any tutorials

>>121569556
When Should you watch/read tutorials then?

>>121569640
He was having a laugh, you goofus.

>>121569442

books > tutorials

>tfw your demo will never impress vine so much she will let you creampie her boipussy

>>121570119
for general purpose programming, yeah. if you want engine specific stuff you're better off finding some online tutorial (or better yet, online documentation).

>>121570242
m-maybe i could be vine for tonight

>>121570279
>some filthy nodev
>pure vine
pick one

I heard Overwatch is made with Unity.

Is that true?

>>121570410
You're thinking of hearthstone.
Overwatch is their own inhouse engine.

>>121570410
no thats hearthstone overwatch is probably their own

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucRYLobga0g
>not remaking this in mobile

>>121570571
but i can play atari on mobile

So why do you think undertale was so successful, /agdg/?

Why did this one random guy's indie game sell like fucking mad?

I want to hear your opinions

>>121570748
He made an epic meta game meta games make the big tumblr love for many ones the writing acknowledged it was a game and it maked the user make good or bad choices and they were supposed to feel bad which makes it popular like "oh noooo i didn't want to do that better draw porn of this character"

>>121570748
memes
rabid fanbase that kept shilling it
mother ripoff
furry
successful kikestarter

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>all these 3d games
Best agdg thread in awhile

>>121570748
in marketing there's a group of early adopters you call your "evangelists" - Toby Fox's involvement with Homestuck gives him not only a leg up on a fanbase, but a group of fans who rabidly promote him for being tangentially related to something they're obsessed with, on top of it being a detail oriented game that panders to a very specific demographic.
There is no chance of you reproducing its success by following its formula.

>>121570879
>Those gamers who think in absolutes: smooth > pixels, 3D > 2D, it doesn't matter how good.

>>121570748
I haven't played it besides 5 minutes, but it seems written for someone with basic writing skills, basic humour.

I do believe the emotional engagement people have it's that the monsters aren't just random minions but they're give at least basic personalities.

The last point I do believe is what makes people so invested into it, specially the genocide run.

It's not a secret, most good art that is popular have something emotional people can feel.

Remeber that humans are emotional beings and emotions are the basics of good art.

>>121571046
>I haven't played it besides 5 minutes
Why even bother posting?

The intro is just tutorial shit anyhow, and it's super obvious it was made first, and then not revisited as he got better over the course of the game.

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>>121570992
>aesthetics can't be scientifically explained
kek

>>121571126
because I can see in 5 minutes is not average shit, but something special.

you don't need to fully taste a meal to know it's good m8.

I already did saw the core gameplay, understood it.
sure, I'm missing the story but I can read it on wikipedia or something.

when you know the rules of storytelling, you don't need to "experience" a good story to know it's good or bad.

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>>121571046
What makes people human is their dumb notion that there is some sort of greater purpose for their existence

Normally having a baby fills this desire

But people that for whatever reason dont end up with a family then go on to create artificial reasons to exist to impress peers, or to get money

>>121571306
The game does sincerely get a lot better after the first part.

>>121571393
nice first year philosophy
next you'll be quoting Nietzsche and thinking you're top shit

>>121571538
dont do philosophy

im just some bitter old dude making a game that cant see the point anymore

i think im just gona try get my job back

>>121571617
sounds like your problem isn't the game but something a bit deeper

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>>121570748
Because it did EVERYTHING right.
It might be a hard concept to grasp, but it did just that.
The flawed seams is only something you see towards the endgame, they are minor, and if you played it for that long; you are hooked enough to think any roadblock its a fun challenge.

The bad things about it(ROM hacking masturbation), also stays limited to something obscure, unlike games like Axiom Verge where it wants to masturbate over it, but its not well enough designed to do that.

>>121571393
what makes human is a bunch of stuff, ethics, art, aesthetics, morals, politics, fun, emotions, rationality.

>sort of greater purpose
that's called motivation bro, and it's a good tool for moving your players to finish your game or keep playing.

There's usually diferent types of players, there's some who want to kill and destroy, others love competition, other loves exploration and inmersion and others love the social aspect and comunity building.

Good games offer something vastly diferent for each type of player.

There's also other storytelling tools you can use such as protecting others, being the chosen one, tridimentional characters, NPC having subplots, interesting worldbuilding, conflicted feeling toward ambiguos NPC, betrayal, admiration.

There's also common tropes you can use, and even bittersweet endings can be explained by having the MC acomplish his character arc but losing his story goal.

Storytelling is extremelly important for giving an emotional experience most players would want.

I'm sure the undertale guy had enough experience making homestuck as to create something special again.

>>121571402
yeah, I'm sure.
I could see even in the tutorial it was something special.

>>121571617
maybe you should read the foundamentals of art to understand and explain why some things become popular.

>>121571538
He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you.

>>121571745
>that's called motivation bro
Motivation can be a greater purpose, but it generally isn't a greater purpose. Motivation is short sighted desire, and with some control it can be long sighted profitable desire.

>>121571701
yep

i think i fucked up

i think i thought video games where important and having a job was being trapped

but working 18 hour days and getting paid less is true suffering

and the freedom to create whatever i want

i cant

what i want to make doesnt sell

so i have to make shit i dont like that will sell

i wish i didnt overthink shit when i was younger

stayed with my girl friend

got married

had kids

and had a stable income and free time

>>121571796
motivation is important still.

sure, dedication is better if you want to acomplish something.

but motivation has a huge importance, imagine art if hot girls weren't a huge motivation for artists.

a hot girl could motivate you towards a goal, and that's something good.

>>121571804
how bout you turning up what you just wrote, that frustration and make it into a game?

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>>121571768
What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: 'This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more' ... Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus? Or have you once experienced a tremendous moment when you would have answered him: 'You are a god and never have I heard anything more divine.

Ergo, stop posting in agdg and start devving

>>121571804
money is fucking meaningless beyond keeping you alive and comfortable

and you do have the freedom to do whatever you want but you're confining your ideas because you want to get rich off it.

games (and art) aren't a fucking get rich quick scheme, and they certainly aren't the path to a stable life

anyhow you ain't got shit to worry about, you can go learn a trade right fucking now and live a stable life easily, so stop acting like the world is over because you didn't make the latest indie hit.

>>121571954
Im not trying to get rich off it

I tried making stuff i found interesting

And the media never picked it up so it didnt sell

I have to make drivel that can be pigeon holes so the media can go "Oh its like X mixed with Y"

I dont want to get rich

Thats not why i make the shit i make

Its so i can pay the bills

Because i couldnt when i made what i wanted

>>121571804
>>121572060
I am very drunk right now

And shouldnt be ranting to a forum probably mostly consisting of teenagers

So im gona go and get some more booze and get back to work

Sorry for disturbance

Just having mini breakdown

>>121572126
>23
>teenager
bro

Ideas for trapjam? Post them please

>>121572060
can't you get a cheap job with your current skills, something easy?

like IT mainteinance?

>>121572242
you set up traps that jump in the air and blow the dicks off of traps

>>121572242
a game where you're shown cute trap cocks and have to guess whether they're post-op or pre-op

http://store.steampowered.com/app/416640/
oh shit someone stole gogems new game but made it fun instead of boring politics
gogem status: slain!ed lmao

>>121572331
none of it makes any sense
traps naturally look like girls they arent transvestites and the fuck is a post op dick

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an idle animation + a run/jog animation
need to fix it to loop smoother but otherwise content for the moment

>>121573070
The ear twitches aren't very good. At first I thought it was meant to be a sparkle.

>>121573070
cute

>>121573070
did you hear about dem 4k monitors bro?

>>121572420
> yet another fucking choicescript game on steam
this is starting to upset me
they don't even try to make it look nice they just use the default style every time
the last one that released had actual fucking spelling errors in the fucking promo screenshots
but they all have that one fucking curator saying "you can be a girl and bone girls" so I guess GOTY

fuckin' writers

>>121573201
thanks for the feedback
i'm going out now but i'll tweak it later today

>>121573250
thanks

>>121573343
http://store.steampowered.com/curator/6864182-Hella-Yuri/?appid=416640 what the fuck

>>121573651
They know what they want and they're not ashamed.

No matter how ashamed they should be.

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>>121573651

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>>121573651
>>121573952
Every group has a minority of SJW-like people who would play games for shallow reasons and be zealous about it.

>>121573651
Well at least they're honest about their intentions, I guess.

>>121574221
Being honest about your dishonesty behind steam accounts isn't very honest, if they were really honest they wouldn't automatically curate games disregard the quality.

Thred is ded

no progress to be seen

>>121575561
gay

> making tea
> have to answer github issues

why do I even bother with this open source crap

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What are you working on today?

>>121576058
probably working on some loose ends because I'm afraid to actually implement gameplay

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>>121576058
UI Stuff
Does it look alright?

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>>121576058
> mfw too scared to say what I'm working on because I think someone will steal it

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what up senpais and gameboys

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Well i had zero time for progress in the last 4 days due to school crap, but i want to get at least some progress today.
I added different anims for undrawing the bow. If the string is drawn she will release it slowly down and if the bow is not drawn (after being fired for ex.) it goes directly into idle.
It's not perfect, there are some aesthetic imperfections, but i am not going for perfection so good enough.

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Skybox picker, woo!

>>121573343
Those games are shit but what i cannot believe is how come there is actually a fucking market for these games.. because if nobody played them they would not exist .. WHO THE FUCK actually WANTS to play Website spreadsheets: THE GAME

>>121576058
Still inventory stuff.
Plus I'll go on with the random tree and bush generation.

Also gonna try something for the dialogue system.

>>121576058
I'm planing on making some basic defender (nes) clone for mobile but actually being about some magical catgirls fighting and rescuing kitties/puppies from doggirls and vice versa.

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>>121576249
>mfw I realize sooner or later I'll have to work on rigging and animating and I have no idea on how to do either of those

In Unity am I not allowed to assign a mesh generated in a non-monobehaviour script to a MeshFilter component? I keep getting cleanup errors and the MeshFilter says the mesh it has is a "Type mismatch"

http://pastebin.com/0XWyu08H

Hex is not a monobehaviour script

pls no bully

>>121576486
they could be so much better if they would just put the slightest fucking effort into anything except writing a hundred billion words

they all look the same, they all advertise not having sound or graphics as though it's something to be proud of, none of them seem to get any proofreading

the original choice-of games were fun, but they were crucially also free
if you're gonna charge people you could at least do a different background colour or something

>>121576058
Trying to make this fucking mammoth change directions without looking retarded.

>>121576243
gwyndev is not here, you can post progress in peace

which agdg game should I clone

>>121576058
trying to make a realistic procedural stars generation method

>>121576774
If you want to play a cool game like that which does it correctly and is free then try The Room or something like that (is begins with fire stoking)

>>121576832
ror

>>121576730
It's not too bad, rigging can be obnoxious but animation is basically just posing an action figure.

mods just deleted a dev thread on /v/
its over

>>121577279
Was it really a dev thread, or a just a shill thread?

>>121576249
I hope he walks around like a ball suspended on noodles

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>18 hours to demo day

not gonna make it, family

Why the fuck do all games made with Unity look the same?

>>121577975
The power of the Asset Store™

>>121577950
if it runs post it

>>121577975
because they were all made with unity?
seems like a self-answering question really

>>121577950
>18 hours till 48 hours left
plenty of time senpai

>>121578501
If you don't submit within the first 12 hours you may as well not submit at all.

>>121576801
Haha that reminds me, does anyone have that tall panel image about gwyndev's thieving antics?

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Did you push changes last night, anon?

>>121578501

Gotta submit early, otherwise your chance of being bullied goes way down.

Are there more modern popular arcade games that have only 1 level, like Luftrausers?

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Dear /agdg/,
Remember to add mecha to your game!
Love, /m/

>>121580147
those are meh

quick
how do i make $165,000

>>121580147
>my forest explorer game has a robot NPC
>my monster girl RPG has a robot girl
I think I'm ok.

>>121563753
Isn't this public knowledge at this point? It's just a scam 99.99% of the time just like insurance

>>121580250
sell your kidneys

>>121580237
Doesn't have to be those, it was just an example. Any robots will do.

>>121580332
You're doing good work anon. Keep it up!

>>121563943
Is that the snesdev? If yes you got better pretty fast

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=548496127
>tfw browsing new greenlight submissions for a self-esteem boost

>>121562930
>spooky arthritis

>>121576250
BRUH HER RIGHT SHOULDER
HER SHOULDER

>>121580627
Voted yes.
I hope that dev gets his game on Steam :)

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>>121580627
>he paid 100$ to get his "joke" game on greenlight

>>121580761
To be fair the money goes to charity

>>121581043
>tax deductible

based gaben

>>121580627
It's really sad that he had no one there to kindly tell him how much of a bad idea that was. It looks like he tried really hard too.

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>tfw you have no gameplay and don't care because making a moddable skill engine is fun

>>121580647
she is a pro archer and pro archers can manipulate their muscles at will

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Should I use a dark color for boots and gloves or just stick with green and grey?

>>121581754
I wonder what movement would be like in a game where you controlled a humanoid made entirely of muscle, no bones.

GM Studio bros, how are you handling your backups?

I'm just copying my work folder into dropbox every night and it feels really dumb, can you use bitbucket with it?

>>121581829
looks undersaturated in general

>>121581997
Why not just make your dropbox folder your working directory so any changes are automatically saved in there and uploaded to Dropbox?

>>121581829
color looks good as it is, i think it would be better if you tweak your UV instead of doing curved lines on your texture.

also may I ask, how are you planning to light this? is it going to be fullbright?

>>121581829
I think he needs some kind of darker linework on him.
He looks a bit like a balloon float you'd see at a parade.

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>>121582060
better?

>>121581829
Are you that guy who made the model that looks like a detective?

>>121582274
nope, that's another guy

>>121582228
Not him, but I think that definitely looks better.

>>121580627
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=548249168
lol, why haven't you started cloning mario party games agdg? I'm sure nobody will notice.

>>121582087
That was my first idea but I ended with a lot of duplicated files for some reason.

I copy them with a scheduled task batch file so it's not really a hassle, it just doesn't feel ENTERPRISE to me.

>>121582228
I will shade it with darker colors later.

>>121582351
You could use Bittorrent Sync to cause any changes made to your working directory to mirror in your Dropbox copy of the directory.

>>121581997
Git or SVN does not work with GM?

>>121582426
I meant to reply you
>>121582160

>>121582336
>Lorry simulator

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=542646615

>>121582546
>>121582426

Yes, but you will still have to light it when you put it inside your engine, I'm asking because low-poly with lighting is a pain in the ass because of the vertex light values. Anyway, best of luck to you.

>>121582228
hopoo are you making a 3d game now?

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>>121581829
>>121582228
this is how it should normally look, unless you are going for a ROR like style

>>121576058
My language. Going to try out Bird & Paterson's de Bruijn representation because PHOAS sucks in Haskell.

>>121582953
I don't like that

>>121573651
>I discovered what steam curators are for

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pixel art sure is great and easy, 2d dark souls here i come

>>121583126
What are you using for the animation? Looks pretty cool.

>>121583164
spriter, you missed a 12$ sale for humblebundle but it'll probably be discounted for christmas

ps: doesn't work well with unity yet

>>121583262
Thanks, I'll keep my eye out.