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>READ the pastebins BEFORE asking stupid questions
Additional FAQ, SERIOUSLY, READ THIS ONE: http://pastebin.com/tZ4b2FPb
Clan info / Links: http://pastebin.com/nEy7qP9s
Gameplay Automation / Macros guide (using either will get you banned): http://pastebin.com/t2p3k6Ux
Forum threads: http://pastebin.com/q4Fsyz8H
>How to join Warbros No Fun Allowed: http://i.imgur.com/RMS2guW.png
Frame Criteria: http://pastebin.com/zr30YF2j
Raid Setups and individual Builds:
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION: http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY
THE JORDAS VERDICT: http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed
Damage 2.n: http://i.imgur.com/AFVavTs.jpg
DPS calculator and weapon build planner: https://github.com/GottFaust/WWDC/releases/tag/0.8.2
UPDATE 17.10.0: Saryn Rework
Atlas, J3 Golem etc.:https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/536207-update-175-the-jordas-precept-hotfix-1751/
Trinity Prime: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/540178-update-176-trinity-prime/
>Older stream footage: http://pastebin.com/LkZRPteU
liestream highlights: http://pastebin.com/ZyJAXL28
THE LAW OF RETRIBUTION
THE JORDAS VERDICT
/wfg/ OP pastebin, if its not like this one report it and make a proper one: http://pastebin.com/Mftv9RXK
wow this is so moody
it's like I'm really legally blind
So, how many of these do you have, /wfg/?
>EV works like well of life
>link no longer provides damage resistance
>blessing capped at 50%
>well of life duration 20% longer
>still not post DEAC viable
>sonic boom causes stagger instead of ragdolling
>sonar only highlights whatever weakspots they had before, no additional damage
>silence no longer opens enemies up to finishers
>soundquake no longer stuns enemies
>enemies affected by sonar and silence take more damage from soundquake
How do you plan on getting this approved?
some effort allows you to go about as fast as coptering. I use a macro because you need to mash a ton of keys.
Aside from that, I have barely farmed ever since Volt Prime. I just log in every once in a while, play some survivals with pubs to show off my bling, and then buy the primes when they come out with platinum.
Every once in a while I sell some garbage to get some plat, and the cycle continues. I have ~13k plat right now, I can keep doing this for a while.
Armor scaling knocks her damage down by a ton. After 20 waves of T4 defense, her guns become peashooters if you didn't bring 4xcp.
Shooting gallery and shatter shield scale well anyways because:
1: Shooting Gallery affects everything.
2: Shatter shield is a percentage and not a flat value.
In terms of efficiency, she's not very desirable outside of leech parties. There's no point in taking her into 1hr survivals.
he is damn fun anon but u need heavy forma build to make him work. you can go end game with him but others will tell dat bring other frame will be more usefull cuz chroma is best suited at facetankin.
dat make me kek anon but
>mfw Chroma was insulted for my own retardation
There's still faint hope in my heart that Fatfuck and Shekel Steve will suffer a simultaneous heart attack while jerking each other, and be replaced with people who actually play the game and care about it.
Get in and vote, because Lesbecca will use this in the future to argue that Saryn "is in a good place"
Please do us justice and post on forums before DE reads this thread.
There are never enough shitters.
When the clan is dead is the best time to be in it, all the underage bands from /v/ aren't around shitting everything up. They'll come back for U18 and hopefully leave a couple weeks later.
here's a idea /wfg/, let's give all warframes passive(s).
weapons proficiencies, innate mod effects, etc
>mesa: keep original passives but gain proficiency with gunblades
>oberon: buffs last longer on oberon, proficiency with sword and shields
>nekros: shield of the dead become innate scythe proficiency
>hydriod: pilfering storm now innate, gains water wings for sharkwing
>mag: vaccum innate(fuck the carrier) maglev innate
>rhino: heavy impact innate, heavy weapons proficiency
>valkyr: rage innate, claws proficiency
>elemental frames: volt, ember, and sayrn get their version of frost Cryogenic, elemental bullet jump innate to their corresponding frames
or to much work for an subpar game developer?
I don't like passives that are proficiency with X weapon. Something like Mesa's is ok because it works on ALL secondaries. I like passives that work in all situations like Mirage's or Equinox's.
>Rhino: When sprinting at full speed, immune to knockdowns/CC. Will knock over smaller enemies.
>Hydroid: Using his 1, 2 or 3 will leave puddles of water on the ground. Standing in these puddles OR any water already in the level will regenerate his energy.
>Ash: Enemies take 1 second longer to notice him by sight. When already alerted, enemies at 10% less accurate when aiming at Ash.
>clanmates asking for taxi in chat
>I don't have it unlocked either
>quickly run the missions from where I am to the invasion
>get to the mission
>they're still asking for taxi
>don't take them
Daily reminder to not be a lazy fuck
All the frames will get a passive soon. It will be
just as useful as augment mods (either it gets
nerfed 10 times or ignored completely)
>posted on the warframe forums
No shit. You basically have three communities for warframe. /wfg/, which is 100% bitching. Reddit, which is 30% bitching, 70% dicksucking. And the official forums which is 100% dicksucking, because bitching gets ding dong bannu'd.
>70% dicksucking is good
I lurk /r/warframe but I don't post. The 20% is worth looking for, and it's nice how if you see a topic you don't give a shit about you can just ignore it and enter another, while on /wfg/ since we're just one thread we kinda stay on one topic at a time. I still love you guys more even though you're assholes
It makes shitters happy, so it's still the worst place. I want warframe to crash and burn all at once, not light themselves on fire to appeal to people that are slow in multiple ways.
Headshot EVERYTHING. It's an extremely precise weapon. Its solid crits make it definitely an okay single target choice.
Sadly, Sybaris falls off pretty badly at later levels due to the lack of DPS, constant reloading, and inability to control groups well. I like it but it certainly needs some love to perform later.
>Tfw poison users, regardless of game, will be fucked over eventually.
>Alchemists, too, if they're in the game
Is it so bad to want to have effective poison?
How the fuck do you even build this new build without gimping something?
You embrace being made out of paper and chugging energy like the mage chugged mana potions in diablo 1.
At the very least, once you get the timing down her 2+1+4 is pretty fast.
you basically can't fit survivability and still do enough damage to be relevant.
>Take frame I like
>Take weapon I like
>Go to mission
>Shoot baddies while flying around in slomo and doing cool stunts
It's not hard, anon.
If you want to learn how to have fun in warframe, make a new account.
Damage, survivability in t3/4, molt being useful for more than a setup to miasma, miasma being useful for more than tickling the anuses of enemies, being able to build without fucking myself up the ass in the process.
Afraid all you'll find is sadness, by making Saryn dependent on Duration, they made it impossible to do decent damage and have 3 slots left over for the vit+rage+molt augment.
If you want you can build her as a tank and then just use her for spreading her 1 around (Which is ridiculously easy to do now) Still pretty meh.
You know what the sad part is? I actually managed to jew enough plat to get the skin, before they revealed how shit things were.
At least maybe the banshee skin won't have a "buff" on its heels
>say that Miasma should be renamed into "Warframe Community"
>say forum is full of shitters
>report myself in hope of ban so I won't need to read this shitterforum anymore
>can't even ban me
Is there anything they can do properly?
>going with a fresh account to have "fun" again
>call out for other's autism
>I've spent ~210 days of my life swindling children out of their fake video game currency while not evening enjoying the time spent.
Sounds to me like you're kinda, I dunno, autistic.
I don't play on a fresh account.
I'm saying that doing that will show you that the game can actually be really fun when you don't have all of your mods on max, a 30 forma tonkor and 10k restores.
>and worthless pvp shit
I am working through that shit right now because muh codex and this is literally the worst garbage grind in the entire game, nothing else can match this
you need like 1.5 million standing with that nigger teshin to get every shitty terrible mod
>not being able to enjoy swindling people
I just really enjoy that part of the game and you probably don't like it because you're terrible at it.
I once gave a shit about the mods, but then they introduced the pvp and I stopped caring
So the pastebin says to make restores because they are cheap, but this recipe looks like a big hassle to get all the extracts for.
Is it talking about the team health restore?
I have an alt account I used for playing with friends unfortunate enough to become interested in this. I've played through Vor's wankfest with a fresh volt and managed to make my way back to pluto. All it's done is make me remember how annoying it was to get intensify, streamline, continuity, and finally get enough shit to sell in order to finally get a potato.
I was reminded of all the bullshit I had to do to grind to get a new frame, with bosses that weren't hard, but just tedious with invincibility phases instead of actual difficulty. I remembered how godawful the mastery tests were and how, if it weren't for a few shit weapons, they would be completely pointless. Oh, and not being able to go into anything above t1 for ages was frustrating.
It's not fun to die to ruk because his weakspots sleeked shut and wouldn't open back up, it's not fun to not even have loki as an option anymore. It's not fun to have to burn through ammo because I have fuckall for damage mods.
Warframe is shit, and this is from someone that's had the misfortune to play through all of its "content" twice now. Go fuck yourself with a rake.
>mfw I found build to make saryn "press 4 to win" again
>it works really well even on enemies lvl 60
>but to make it work you must have 1 specific weapon with extra specific build in your gear
>Warframe is shit, and this is from someone that's had the misfortune to play through all of its "content" twice now.
>not being able to go into anything above t1 for ages was frustrating.
>die to ruk
He was literally invulnerable. The parts that were supposed to open and reveal weakspots never did. I think you're thinking of Hek. And when you don't have the right damage mods and are stuck with either just electricity or really shitty corrosive, anything ABOVE t1 is frustrating. God forbid I have to deal with pubs, which makes it worse.
can we agree this is easily the worst alt helm by far
No it's not. Torid is very good but not as fun and don't have such wide AoE dmg like weapon I'm using. The thing is, the gun I'm using is not for dmg. It gives the high Gas dmg and 88% status chance (moded) + Saryn 25% status chance. So I just press button once and everything in front of me gets infected and I just press 4
Except I didn't say what gun I'm using. It's not Torid. So good luck shitter
I said really shitty corrosive. It was there, just that I was doing fuckall for damage. It felt like I could have switched to even blast damage and gotten the same results.
But that's aside from the point. The point is that nobody in their right mind would willingly replay through all that shit, if they had a choice. The content is all awful, and the early gameplay experience is basically a series of dickpunches with a "cutscene" or two, and that the only thing "fun" about it was logging off to play better games.
>make new account
>put potato with starting plat
>go to lua
>level up with a random t3 farm team, stay inside the snow globes.
>do tower 1s
>spam radial blind
>get some mods
>get some keys
>use the keys to get dragon keys
>get corrputed mods
>solo star chart with raidal blind
>alternatively, make your way to nepnep and get loki
may be tedious
but it's easy as shit
That's why i saw all the Saryns with Acrid lately...
>Recasting Miasma refreshes the duration of the original miasma. So if you set up a 3 times dmg miasma, all subsequent refreshes of the duration will also be at 3 times damage. Thus the energy per damage ratio swings in favor of the newer miasma, which at 3 times damage deals roughly 2.5 times more damage than the original miasma.
The hell am I reading?
>Try to stealth run just for variety's sake
>Enemy spawns 10 feet in front of me
WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO FIX THIS
Uh, last devstream(or the one before that) they pretty much said that any improvements to stealth will only come as a side effect of improving unrelated systems. They know they would have to work on the enemy AI, which is why they refuse to do anything with it directly.
>this stupid cunt will never be replaced
don't even remind me, man
>hide in a shadow
>visibility meter is at its lowest tick
>bright wall behind you
>enemies in front of you
>enemies can't see your outline and don't attack
nice ambient soundtracks though
Good combat, cute waifus, but once you start grinding for gear to even do a small amount of damage to an enemy you should stop playing.
Also it's deader than Elvis and filled with bots.
go back and read the first letter on each line
black desert is garbage
they wasted all of their budget on the character creator
gameplay is worse than archeage
do not know enough about blade and soul but it just looks like a typical korea grind mmo
ToS I am aware of, but no way of playing it because Korean CBT. A shame because the oracle class looks interesting just by being an oracle.
I'll check out Black Desert and Blade&Soul, I think I'm just about ready to get off the ride.
>maybe. Or maybe not :^)
except it is. there's been saryns running around with ignis on draco the day of the nerf.
it's not a ground breaking discovery, and you're not the first to figure it out. you're just a shit poster that's seeking attention.
You do get more sustained on average, but you're relying on a ~50% chance of critting for that sustained. Regular Hek just does it right out of the box.
Besides, the V. Hek has a longer reload.
DE already secretly nerfed normal HEK, I'm sure syndicate one is on par or better (don't play anymore to max and test it)
Magazine warp Tonkor
it's better than reload speed on it
Blade & Soul is another garish pedo/waifu sim that just like Tera (if thats your thing), also it has no longlasting appeal or any endgame. Nice combat system.
Didn't play BD.
Tree of Savior is basically Ragnarok sequel, not an action game.
>trying to argue with a shitter with facts
Just stop. Shitters are incapable of using their brain and thinking.
>+55% reload speed
>2 secs become 0.9 secs
Can you not? We're having a reasonable discussion here.
He's right though, reload speed doesn't work that way. Otherwise when you hit 100% you'd get instant reloads.
Warframe.market usually is pretty reliable to see the running prices for things, just base yourself off the average Sell price, low and high ends are unreasonable quicksales or delusional idiots.
if you used calc it doest change Tonkor mag size with Mag warp
cost of getting and maxing Prime Fast hands makes it highly inefficient alternative (or simply impossible for newer player)
>Archwing gives new Saryn a permanent upskirt
DE finally figured out how to get people to play archwing
>all these fags mad about the saryn rework
-Use an atomos
-Get a shotgun with high status
-Build both for viral and radiation
-spore spam again to make sure that shit everywhere
-molt if you're ever below max hp
-while molt is active SPORE THE MOLT(YES YOU CAN SPORE YOUR OWN MOLT FINALLY BASED DE)
-if anythings alive and is hurting you molt again and press 4
Why is everyone so bad at this game.
or for high level enemies i can just use tonkor and clear groups of level 100+ enemies in one shot, and for non-endless missions and DEAC i can just grab a max strength ember, press 4, and walk around.
saryn is now shit, and no amount of shilling by scrubs such as yourself will change that. her whole point before the nerf was the quickly clear enemies in DEAC and non-endless missions, and now there are better alternatives.
It breaks sometimes. And if you're on mobile the items take a long time to load but it's by far the best option if you're learning the prices.
Better than fucking WFT for sure.
I stopped playing around the time they were talking about making multishot cost more ammo.
Did they do that, and is the saryn rework bad? I only ever used her to nuke my way through void and alerts, but I still liked her as she was.
I knew the demographic for this game was a bunch of autistic pre-teens but atleast try to not spreg at any given opportunity.
If you thought saryn was shit before your opinion wont change now because, lets be frank. Solo'ing high level is the only fun part about this game.
Saryn's 1 now does more dps than her 4, they also lowered her effective HP while trying to make her forced into melee for her 3.
For the multishot question, they delayed it, because there was enough outcry that fatfuck was forced to look at the damage system at its core and there will most likely be a Damage 3.0 next year.
>tfw regret not buying Gersemi
>tfw I didn't play Valkyr then
>tfw didn't think it looked good
>tfw I still don't play Valkyr
>tfw I still don't think it looks good
>tfw I regret not buying it all the same
>Hello guys this is the cumeater sissy
>Look goyz saryn is OP, I said before she's a great damage dealer but since I got BTFO now I say she's a "debuff frame"
>Oh look I can't even do shit against lvl 100 enemies
>Better use a TONKOR to do the job
>Still shilling for DE
>Never brings any argument or actual data/numbers
Jesus christ this fag has his brain full of semen or what?
>Still trying to shill a mercury frame.
Valkyr does a better job at cleaning a room without her 4, and uses less total energy to boot.
You're posting here now, that says something.
>I would rather die than enjoy free credits for no effort
>Player rightfully angry a frame he sunk a ton of time and effort into is destroyed
>"lol you can't press 4 to win anymore, deal with it it's beta"
Why do I ever step on the forums and pretend it will be anything but shit.
>think nemesis skin looks like shit
>didn't even see it in market because i don't check it unless i'm aware of new additions
>saw only one person with the skin and it looked like shit
>still regret not having it
Why do people fight over Dark Sectors if they're just going to put a 0% tax on it anyway?
Already voted. I just wish Nova or Rhino would get a nerf so I could watch the forums burn down.
Because someone else would fight them and get all the support for only having a 0% tax.
It used to be 15% or 20% tax on most sectors but it's gotten so low because people fight for whichever one costs them the least.
I'm getting conflicting reports on whether the damage portion of Justice Blades works during Hysteria. Anyone know for certain? I'm trying to test it but with no real luck since I don't have the Simulacrum.
ok, I think I'm done now. Or there are things I could do to boost damage even more? I still want to get my hands on piercing caliber but its price is kinda too much
Damnit, that sucks. What a waste of a mod. Are the Dual Cleavers still worth using for Hysteria? Their base damage sucks but from what I understand that doesn't matter for Hysteria. They have a nice 25%/3x crit though which is the best of all my melee weapons, and AFAIK that does carry through to Hysteria.
hi Sheldon, thank you for fucking up droptables!
>You don't need shred, I would put in metal auger
guys my hands are really cold but i can't really use a keyboard with gloves on
my fingers are icicles
not cold enough to justify turning on the heater either
what do i do
ok, thanks. will put something better instead of p hit
> corrosive /fire
I switch between corrosive/gas/viral depending on a mission, so not a fan of this decision
>You don't need shred, I would put in metal auger
whats the difference?
>my fingers are icicles
>I'm not cold enough to justify using a heater
Corrosive/fire is really not a decision based on the debuff but of the mods. I think wild fire gives you fire damage and a larger magazine.
Try out shred vs metal auger and tell me what you think, I feel like the fire rate does nothing for the latron.
>not understanding circulation
If it's because you're a smoker, you deserve it.
Also, blood bending frame when?
What if they changed Mind Control so the controlled unit would face the same way as you when you ADS'd and shoot enemies in that general direction.
Would that be a good start or is that a dumb idea?
So if only mods affect Hysteria, how does this look? Would like Reach too but I wouldn't want to replace any of these mods.
You should consider finding a free slot for reach, if you have the primed version and only if you're facing nullifiers. It really helps against them because you can hit the bubble from further away.
Otherwise just go for damage
>have been repeatedly formaing a Chroma to try and make him practically invincible
>make a Valkyr for shits and giggles
>at rank 10, is already literally invincible and can fit all her needed damage mods onto an unformad weapon
Is this what being NTRd feels like
>tfw Clem got a friend and comes with us into the void
it was a good day for him
Ok turboniggers, what's the deal with the nerfed saryn.
1.- pop 1 on enemy then use a shotty like Sancti Tiger, pop the spore, spread the other faggots and then press 4
2.- pop 2, use 1 on 2, pop the spore and then 4
Which one is more effective?
Rhino is the normie frame though
Because he's easy to get and on the star map he's fucking invincible
Excalibutt is actually good now. Or so I hear, I haven't played him since his third ability was to fucking jump
The Corpus did nothing wrong
>have bunch of friends playing with me
>they are all edgelords excaliburs with red/black colors
>i'm the only one faggot with pink/white/gold combo for my Liki
>mfw i still manage to carry their asses and they can't into T4/T3 without me
feels good knowing that all edgelords are shit at this game
>tfw my irl friend insults my heavily forma'd pink and white lex p
>tfw I use it exclusively in a mission with him and get 78% damage done
Xenophobia is fine.
The problem with the Grineer is that they think they are the embodiment of perfection but they're just degenerate clones.
Grineer would have been the best faction had they been all 1488 perfect beings.
>Doing T4 Survival with a Liki
>Enemies are getting pretty annoying, ask him to disarm
>Ask him several more times
>Still no disarm
>End up being forced to leave at 20m
>Message the guy, "dude you didn't disarm once"
The only thing that makes me rage
I was able to get it to do over 1000 damage per tick on level 100 heavy gunners.
That's after I ripped away all of their armor by mashing E with a corrosive nikondi, but by that time it was already almost dead. Miasma was slowly eating at the rest of its health health, and it recovered from stun and began turning my molt into cheese. If I had tapped E a couple more times, It would have just died before Miasma did anything special.
Then I tried it with more enemies and spammed 1 and 2 like people like to shill. Damage was still shit, and the only things that died where the things I dangled my nikondi at.
I killed everything with Saryn?
No, I killed them with a Nikondi.
Does anyone have the Lotus version of this? I need this because
of my raging Oedipus stiffy
>Lotus: Ruk is nearby. Be warned that he is a formidable adversary, with an almost inhuman hatred for all that is not Grineer.
>Sargas Ruk: You did not have to fight like you did. You chose to support us. You chose to serve us. The way you fight, we cannot grow this in a test tube. You are a true warrior. I need more warriors like you.
Ever considered questioning your sources, Tenno?
DON'T YOU DARE TALK SHIT ABOUT MY MOMMY
Go away DK, no one like your edgelord Nova.
how to fix Limbo:
>Renamed Haven to Rift Pulse
-killing a banished enemy spawns an pulse of rift energy pulling enemies near it into the rift
>Removed Rift Surge
>Rift Surge is now a Rift Walk augment
>new "3" Rift Flaw
-create walls on rift that allows you to damage what's outside of it
enemies can shoot the wall to break it
>Rift Flaw augment: Focused Flaw
-shoots made throught the flaw have an 30% damage increase and no travel time
>Can pick up stuff while on rift
>Cataclysm no longer gets smaller with time
>"make your way to the exists"
I wonder how they're going to improve rescue in the future.
>tfw you get to deploy those cute little MOAS But I like Cephalon Suda, too, I would even tend to use Cephalon and Perrin only an fuck the others because they are non high tech shits
>That MOA in the room, having no idea what to do
The reason I love those little guys
I like it
How to fix Mag:
>Unfuck Pull/Greedy Pull, remove the line of sight shit, but leave it so that things can't be pulled through walls if you must.
>Rework Magnetic Damage as a whole, giving it a new Status Effect which immobilizes enemies (like Fracturing Crush) instead of redundantly reducing shields.
>Crush now immobilizes enemies by default, Fracturing Crush only adds the armor reduction effect
>Slightly more base energy
>Bullet Attractor has an Augment Mod called Bullet Deflector, which can be cast on allies to protect them
There are chain-like purple lines in the background of the lotus whenever she transmits messages
>"What is he doing? Am I broke or something?"
>"My system says im 100%ly fine, but why is he standing there? Am I going to be scrapped? Please No!"
>"I-I dont want do be scrapped! I want to be useful! For the syndicate!"
>"D-dont destroy me, please..."
>Steel Meridian Death Squad.mp4
Unfortunately that mod is fucking awful for the Sobek. It adds 20% status after all other modifiers, which is pretty useless. Should have been something hilarious like +100% magazine capacity, to make Hek the Burst shotgun and Sobek the Sustain shotgun.
>Knowing someone that started a few weeks ago
>wants to play saryn now
>Dosent know about the changes
>mfw I deal a shit ton of damage while getting flamed because "Muh saryn dosent deal damage"
>m-muh 1st time doing jordas verdict
>pumped as fuck
>3 arcanes per day hype
>mission starts fly a few feet
mission failed wut happened ;o;?