/wfg/ - Warframe General

f(x) of how to nerf Trinity, Rhino and Banshee.

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wow this is so moody
it's like I'm really legally blind

thanks DE

updated TLOR builds:
http://pastebin.com/dMMdZRpY

new TJV builds:
http://pastebin.com/NLPSMBed

new new OP pastebin for updated links:
http://pastebin.com/Mftv9RXK

damn son I'm mastery rank 15 and this is the time I've actually seen warframe on vg

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>>121543324

>Reminder
>Draco runs are now : Oberon, Trinity, Nova, Oberon

>>121543324
>implying we haven't been around for 1000 and counting threads
>implying warbros has been around that long
>implying warbros is ded

>>121543503
>oberon
>not using superior korean volt grind

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So, how many of these do you have, /wfg/?

>>121543627
3

>>121543503
You forgot Mesa

>>121543627
I dunno, what does it show up as in your inventory? I've got a dozen \LOTUS\BLUEPRINTs if that counts.

>>121543597
good joke nerd it's all about that loki prime radial disarm build tho

>>121543160
they're all in the OP you dingdong

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>>121543152
Lobsterbutt
>EV works like well of life
>link no longer provides damage resistance
>blessing capped at 50%
>well of life duration 20% longer
Rhino
>gets buffed
>still not post DEAC viable
Banshee
>sonic boom causes stagger instead of ragdolling
>sonar only highlights whatever weakspots they had before, no additional damage
>silence no longer opens enemies up to finishers
>soundquake no longer stuns enemies
>enemies affected by sonar and silence take more damage from soundquake

>>121543512
>taking the bait

>>121543152
Blessing now gives damage reduction based on how long you've been hurt for and how low your hp is. In order to get 99% reduction, you need to be at 2hp for 2 minutes.

>>121544440
what the fuck

>>121543874
>>silence no longer opens enemies up to finishers
You need the augment to even be able to finish them now. Wouldn't be much of a difference.

>>121544440
ayoooo lmfaooooooooooooooooooooooo
PLEASE POST THIS ON THE FORUM

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>>121544440
How do you plan on getting this approved?

I played more of Saryn in the last two days than in the entire month I've had her. Her skin is just too good

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>>121544440
post it on the forums

I stopped playing after coptering got removed.

What keeps you guys playing? Other than autism

>>121548167
why do you keep coming to this general? other than retardation.

>>121548167
i went too far not to watch this crash and burn

>>121548223
this is the first time i've been here in MONTHS

Are you telling me someone does this every thread?

>>121548358
More like every two or three threads.

>>121548167
some effort allows you to go about as fast as coptering. I use a macro because you need to mash a ton of keys.

Aside from that, I have barely farmed ever since Volt Prime. I just log in every once in a while, play some survivals with pubs to show off my bling, and then buy the primes when they come out with platinum.

Every once in a while I sell some garbage to get some plat, and the cycle continues. I have ~13k plat right now, I can keep doing this for a while.

>>121548451
more like eight or nine times EVERY thread

>>121543512

>implying it isn't

Oh sorry, I didn't realize a bunch of mr7 draco shitters meant it wasn't dead LOL

>>121548167
I actually started playing online after they finally removed it. Still playing the game, man.

>Mesa
>late game
Pick one.

>>121551628
>late game
do I win

>>121551628
Late game of course

Did the new Saryn skin have that huge tumor on her right leg before? I just noticed it. And by before I mean like, yesterday.

>>121551628
>lategame

Does Mesa have a scaling problem later on?

>>121554043
Armor scaling knocks her damage down by a ton. After 20 waves of T4 defense, her guns become peashooters if you didn't bring 4xcp.

Shooting gallery and shatter shield scale well anyways because:
1: Shooting Gallery affects everything.
2: Shatter shield is a percentage and not a flat value.

In terms of efficiency, she's not very desirable outside of leech parties. There's no point in taking her into 1hr survivals.

How's Chroma in late game? Also, is he fun in your opinion?

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>>121556674
>>121556674
he is damn fun anon but u need heavy forma build to make him work. you can go end game with him but others will tell dat bring other frame will be more usefull cuz chroma is best suited at facetankin.

>>121557357
>quoted twice
damn am retard

>>121543160
>frame criteria completely outdated

I need help.
Can you name me some 2-4 auto-rifles that I shouldn't sell immediately after getting 'em to 30?

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>>121557464
Well, you are using Chroma...

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Got my ToS beta key.
See ya in U18 faggits.

How much are syndicate weapons going for these days? I need some plat for slots.

>>121561150
40, most of them are hard to sell for even that.
Fucking tanked.

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>>121559575
dat make me kek anon but
>mfw Chroma was insulted for my own retardation

>>121557795
Somapie, Bratpie, but both are very arguable.

>>121548167
There's still faint hope in my heart that Fatfuck and Shekel Steve will suffer a simultaneous heart attack while jerking each other, and be replaced with people who actually play the game and care about it.

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>https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/557553-november-6th-community-hot-topics/
Get in and vote, because Lesbecca will use this in the future to argue that Saryn "is in a good place"

How the fuck do we do Draco now?

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>>121563690
>Needing saryn for draco

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>>121563690
3 embers and a trin

>>121563963
use oberon or rhino so fatfuck can nerf those next.

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>>121563690
Korean volt grind, stand here.

>>121563857
How's your day, fatfuck?
>>121563963
>>121564049
Goddamn, there's no fast way of doing this now.

>>121564025
3 Rhinos with min duration Stomp+Trin work
Oberons range is really shit

What's the best prime frames /wfg/?
I have a 75% off coupon, and $22 in steam funbucks to blow.

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>>121544440
Please do us justice and post on forums before DE reads this thread.

>>121565284
You had better make $3 quick

>>121565284
Frames are garbage, invest in a Carrier.

Does Trinity Prime have the lobster tail that blocks her ass?

>>121566909
Yes and no. It's not exactly a lobster anymore, it's more like a blob of jello tail.

How do I get people to recruit me into their clan?

(Not Warbros: I read the OP link, and they have enough shitters already.)

>>121567568
There are never enough shitters.

When the clan is dead is the best time to be in it, all the underage bands from /v/ aren't around shitting everything up. They'll come back for U18 and hopefully leave a couple weeks later.

>>121565284
>giving DE money

pay4nerfs

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here's a idea /wfg/, let's give all warframes passive(s).
weapons proficiencies, innate mod effects, etc

>mesa: keep original passives but gain proficiency with gunblades
>oberon: buffs last longer on oberon, proficiency with sword and shields
>nekros: shield of the dead become innate scythe proficiency
>hydriod: pilfering storm now innate, gains water wings for sharkwing
>mag: vaccum innate(fuck the carrier) maglev innate
>rhino: heavy impact innate, heavy weapons proficiency
>valkyr: rage innate, claws proficiency
>elemental frames: volt, ember, and sayrn get their version of frost Cryogenic, elemental bullet jump innate to their corresponding frames


good idea?
autism?
or to much work for an subpar game developer?

>>121570260
it's option C, anon

>>121570260
no one cares anymore anon.

>Finally a reactor event
>I had been waiting for one for weeks to use on on my Saryn

Fuck you

>>121565249
oberon's range is fine, it's the same as saryn's

the thing is he deals impact damage

>>121556674
Utterly godlike when properly built, but not used much because he doesn't really provide anything to your team. He's a pretty selfish frame.

>>121570260
I don't like passives that are proficiency with X weapon. Something like Mesa's is ok because it works on ALL secondaries. I like passives that work in all situations like Mirage's or Equinox's.

>Rhino: When sprinting at full speed, immune to knockdowns/CC. Will knock over smaller enemies.
>Hydroid: Using his 1, 2 or 3 will leave puddles of water on the ground. Standing in these puddles OR any water already in the level will regenerate his energy.
>Ash: Enemies take 1 second longer to notice him by sight. When already alerted, enemies at 10% less accurate when aiming at Ash.

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>>121571508
>clanmates asking for taxi in chat
>I don't have it unlocked either
>quickly run the missions from where I am to the invasion
>get to the mission
>they're still asking for taxi
>don't take them
Daily reminder to not be a lazy fuck

>>121573897
you can clear the starchart in a matter of hours

>>121574036
I can also my my lawn by hand in a matter of hours

Doesn't mean it wouldn't make me want to kill myself

>>121574219
teach me how to my my lawn, senpai

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>>121570260
All the frames will get a passive soon. It will be
just as useful as augment mods (either it gets
nerfed 10 times or ignored completely)

>>121574310
You just have to do do the grass

>>121574579
>You just have to do do the grass
Ewww

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Reactor Alart

>>121575949
>reactor invasion followed by reactor alert
Guess DE are trying to help the people that had to reroll from Saryn

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>>121573897
>Someone saved my OC

>>121563270
>"she is worse now" not leading
What are you people doing?

>>121576295
She's in a good place, anon, stop bawling.

>>121576336
Six feet under isn't a good place.

>>121576295
>posted on the warframe forums
No shit. You basically have three communities for warframe. /wfg/, which is 100% bitching. Reddit, which is 30% bitching, 70% dicksucking. And the official forums which is 100% dicksucking, because bitching gets ding dong bannu'd.

>>121576440
you make reddit seem like the superior choice

>>121576552
>70% dicksucking is good
Not really
I lurk /r/warframe but I don't post. The 20% is worth looking for, and it's nice how if you see a topic you don't give a shit about you can just ignore it and enter another, while on /wfg/ since we're just one thread we kinda stay on one topic at a time. I still love you guys more even though you're assholes

>>121576378
It's the best place. One less thing that keeps you logging in. One more step toward freedom.

>>121576847
It makes shitters happy, so it's still the worst place. I want warframe to crash and burn all at once, not light themselves on fire to appeal to people that are slow in multiple ways.

>>121576552
>/r/MemeFrame is a thing
Rethink your intent

>>121577061
Hold on, let me clarify I'm not shitposting
https://www.reddit.com/r/MemeFrame

How do we make the Sybaris not suck. I really like the looks of it.

>>121577216
It isn't the worst, but it isn't the best; very solid weapon however
Crits are its best friend

So any1 experiencing this "Feature"
Using miasma on some enemies while ragdolling them with sonicor. Freezes them,disabling their AI.

Is this a feature of her rework?

>>121577216
wait for prime, get a skin to revert it back to original look

>>121577216
sonic boom

>>121577216
Headshot EVERYTHING. It's an extremely precise weapon. Its solid crits make it definitely an okay single target choice.

Sadly, Sybaris falls off pretty badly at later levels due to the lack of DPS, constant reloading, and inability to control groups well. I like it but it certainly needs some love to perform later.

>>121577276
>>121577680

Hopefully the unavoidable prime version of it has a better reload speed or a better mag size.

>>121577985
>Mag size improved to 20
>Crit chance buffed by another 10%

>Tfw poison users, regardless of game, will be fucked over eventually.
>Alchemists, too, if they're in the game
Is it so bad to want to have effective poison?
How the fuck do you even build this new build without gimping something?

http://strawpoll.me/5942803

>>121578173
You can't. You have to build for everything.

>>121578075
>My dick is buffed to diamonds.

>>121548167
I'm not an autistic complitionist so I actually have fun playing the game.

>>121578249
>implying the third one isn't the most valid response

>>121578173
You embrace being made out of paper and chugging energy like the mage chugged mana potions in diablo 1.

At the very least, once you get the timing down her 2+1+4 is pretty fast.

you basically can't fit survivability and still do enough damage to be relevant.

>>121578371
/wfg/ pls go

>>121578409
But I want to play off of mercury.

>>121578331
>I'm not an autistic complitionist
> so I actually have fun playing the game.
how

>>121578493
you still kill everything on draco ya dingus, it's worse than before but still doable.

>>121578618
>Draco
Basically the same thing.

>>121578519
>Take frame I like
>Take weapon I like
>Go to mission
>Shoot baddies while flying around in slomo and doing cool stunts
>Have fun

It's not hard, anon.
If you want to learn how to have fun in warframe, make a new account.

>>121578653
What exactly where you hoping to accomplish that you could before?

>>121543512
>>implying warbros is ded
Sure, if you think MR4 3rd-world-nigger memers count as actual people.

>>121578773
Damage, survivability in t3/4, molt being useful for more than a setup to miasma, miasma being useful for more than tickling the anuses of enemies, being able to build without fucking myself up the ass in the process.

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>>121576101

>>121578908
Afraid all you'll find is sadness, by making Saryn dependent on Duration, they made it impossible to do decent damage and have 3 slots left over for the vit+rage+molt augment.

If you want you can build her as a tank and then just use her for spreading her 1 around (Which is ridiculously easy to do now) Still pretty meh.

>>121578665
>He is new
everything makes sense now

>>121578665
>restarting warframe
not after I've paid 5737 hours of this game, no sirree, I am not redoing all this bullshit

>>121579551
>Implying.
I've been here a long time, pal.

>>121579604
There lies your problem.
You have autism.
Can't cure that.

>>121579359
You know what the sad part is? I actually managed to jew enough plat to get the skin, before they revealed how shit things were.

At least maybe the banshee skin won't have a "buff" on its heels

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>say that Miasma should be renamed into "Warframe Community"
>say forum is full of shitters
>report myself in hope of ban so I won't need to read this shitterforum anymore
>can't even ban me
Is there anything they can do properly?

>>121579921
>Is there anything they can do properly?
>implying they're just not trying to make you suffer

>>121579668
It's not autism if I've ripped off over 2k plat from goys

>>121580036
>5k hours
>ONLY 2k plat
step it up, senpai

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>>121579668
>going with a fresh account to have "fun" again
>call out for other's autism

>>121580113
To compensate, I have everything in the game except for Goy prime access and founders shit, and worthless pvp shit

>>121580036
>I've spent ~210 days of my life swindling children out of their fake video game currency while not evening enjoying the time spent.

Uh anon.
Sounds to me like you're kinda, I dunno, autistic.

>>121580185
I don't play on a fresh account.
I'm saying that doing that will show you that the game can actually be really fun when you don't have all of your mods on max, a 30 forma tonkor and 10k restores.

>>121580328
>and worthless pvp shit
I am working through that shit right now because muh codex and this is literally the worst garbage grind in the entire game, nothing else can match this
you need like 1.5 million standing with that nigger teshin to get every shitty terrible mod

>>121580487
>The game can be fun when all of your builds are gimped and you know it
>the game can be fun when you don't have shit

Been farming ODS for nova p systems 2 days straight.

I'm convinced they removed it from the game

>>121580794
Yes.
But hey man don't believe me, it takes 2 mins to make a fresh account and try out a few missions.

>>121579921
:-(

>>121580921
>do ODS for 60 minutes
>Nothing but Tower 1 keys
I was so mad that could spam World on Fire from my ass

>>121580487
>not being able to enjoy swindling people
I just really enjoy that part of the game and you probably don't like it because you're terrible at it.
>>121580739
>muh codex
I once gave a shit about the mods, but then they introduced the pvp and I stopped caring

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So the pastebin says to make restores because they are cheap, but this recipe looks like a big hassle to get all the extracts for.

Is it talking about the team health restore?

>>121581107
Yeah, it's the team health restores. Get the 10x bp from a clan or the better 10x from a syndicate.

>aggp showing how "good" saryn is
>uses 1+4
>it does nothing
>uses tonkor to kill everything
>saryn is good now!!!

>>121581107
you get those for free off every 2nd-3rd capture

I have an alt account I used for playing with friends unfortunate enough to become interested in this. I've played through Vor's wankfest with a fresh volt and managed to make my way back to pluto. All it's done is make me remember how annoying it was to get intensify, streamline, continuity, and finally get enough shit to sell in order to finally get a potato.
I was reminded of all the bullshit I had to do to grind to get a new frame, with bosses that weren't hard, but just tedious with invincibility phases instead of actual difficulty. I remembered how godawful the mastery tests were and how, if it weren't for a few shit weapons, they would be completely pointless. Oh, and not being able to go into anything above t1 for ages was frustrating.
It's not fun to die to ruk because his weakspots sleeked shut and wouldn't open back up, it's not fun to not even have loki as an option anymore. It's not fun to have to burn through ammo because I have fuckall for damage mods.

Warframe is shit, and this is from someone that's had the misfortune to play through all of its "content" twice now. Go fuck yourself with a rake.

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>>121581228
>mfw I found build to make saryn "press 4 to win" again
>it works really well even on enemies lvl 60
>but to make it work you must have 1 specific weapon with extra specific build in your gear

>>121581328
>>121580984

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>>121581328
>Warframe is shit, and this is from someone that's had the misfortune to play through all of its "content" twice now.
>not being able to go into anything above t1 for ages was frustrating.
>die to ruk

>>121581339
you must do it
not for mastery
just to piss people off

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>>121581453
He was literally invulnerable. The parts that were supposed to open and reveal weakspots never did. I think you're thinking of Hek. And when you don't have the right damage mods and are stuck with either just electricity or really shitty corrosive, anything ABOVE t1 is frustrating. God forbid I have to deal with pubs, which makes it worse.

>>121581339
the weapon is the Torid isn't?

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can we agree this is easily the worst alt helm by far

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>>121581670
>can't make due with corrosive

>>121581834
No it's not. Torid is very good but not as fun and don't have such wide AoE dmg like weapon I'm using. The thing is, the gun I'm using is not for dmg. It gives the high Gas dmg and 88% status chance (moded) + Saryn 25% status chance. So I just press button once and everything in front of me gets infected and I just press 4

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>>121581860
It's spoopy.

>>121581990
Thanks for confirming, I'm off to the forums now. Enjoy your fix exploiter

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>>121582102
Except I didn't say what gun I'm using. It's not Torid. So good luck shitter

>>121581860
>>121581950
I said really shitty corrosive. It was there, just that I was doing fuckall for damage. It felt like I could have switched to even blast damage and gotten the same results.

But that's aside from the point. The point is that nobody in their right mind would willingly replay through all that shit, if they had a choice. The content is all awful, and the early gameplay experience is basically a series of dickpunches with a "cutscene" or two, and that the only thing "fun" about it was logging off to play better games.

>>121581860
That's not Volt's anus face.

>>121582271
>anus
It's an eye, dingus.
Eye of the storm.

>>121582175
Your status told me all about the weapon m8. Your saryn is finished.

>>121582484
then tell me what weapon is this?

>>121581328
>make new account
>get excalibur
>put potato with starting plat
>go to lua
>level up with a random t3 farm team, stay inside the snow globes.
>do tower 1s
>spam radial blind
>get some mods
>get some keys
>use the keys to get dragon keys
>get corrputed mods
>solo star chart with raidal blind
>alternatively, make your way to nepnep and get loki

may be tedious
but it's easy as shit

>>121582517
I made my alt before excal had gotten the (only "good") rework. That wasn't an option, since excal's drop spot is retardedly late.

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>>121582380

>>121582514
Drakgoon

>>121582514
Tipedo

>>121582380
SORRY I EVER DOUBTED YOU VOLT

>>121581990
the saryn passive is status duration, not chance

is it the ignis?

>>121583859
VOLT IS GOD!!!! SPEEEEED

>>121584323
It's the mutalist quanta. No really

>>121583714
>>121583805
WRONG FEGITS
>>121584323
maybe. Or maybe not :^)

A_ _ _ _

>>121584674
It's the Acrid. Toxin proc every hit, just put in frostbite and pistol pestilence to proc viral too.

>>121584837
AYYYY

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>>121585060
That's why i saw all the Saryns with Acrid lately...

>>121584420
What? How...?

>>121585946
the blob procs viral, could work too to be honest FaM

>>121585060
>Toxic-ing one enemy as a time
ayy
>>121586265
The blob procs Radiation and nothing else

>>121586425
>toxic-ing one enemy at a time
>what is the new spore mechanic?

>>121586425
Phage

>>121586425
>>Toxic-ing one enemy as a time
put on Seeker and spray into a crowd

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>>121586425
>>121586636
>>121587010

>>121581860
20lbs of pussy and ass

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>>121589043

>Recasting Miasma refreshes the duration of the original miasma. So if you set up a 3 times dmg miasma, all subsequent refreshes of the duration will also be at 3 times damage. Thus the energy per damage ratio swings in favor of the newer miasma, which at 3 times damage deals roughly 2.5 times more damage than the original miasma.
The hell am I reading?

>tfw there are shitters out there that need spore to spread poison/viral whatever
>they do not know the power of the nukor

Saryn is objectively shit at everything she does now

>>121590262
Someone who thinks Miasma proc stack now. (They don't)

>>121584837
ANERF

>>121591014
>750 Energy Cap
Some fuckers still only have 150 as cap.

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>Try to stealth run just for variety's sake
>Enemy spawns 10 feet in front of me
WHEN THE FUCK ARE THEY GOING TO FIX THIS

>>121593093
>try stealth
>there's always some sort of feral enemy or alarm that alerts the entire planet and prevents stealth kills

>>121588426
>Baiting anon's to post sleek
>People falling for it
Nice job Scott

>>121593093
Uh, last devstream(or the one before that) they pretty much said that any improvements to stealth will only come as a side effect of improving unrelated systems. They know they would have to work on the enemy AI, which is why they refuse to do anything with it directly.

Oi fags, haven't been playing for a good month.
What did they fucked up while I was wasting my life on some other autistic stuff?

>>121596015
They killed Saryn this past week, I'm too upset to remember any more.

>>121593093
>>121595767
>Stealth
>in a MMO
this delusional shit again

>>121596754
>being bad at sneeki-breeki
>in warfarm
git gud

>>121597671

Fuck you. If I wanted to play a game with good stealth I would play Metal Gear Solid.

>>121597830
>Metal Gear Solid
>good stealth

Splinter Cell is where it's at.

>>121598008

The old ones. Fuck Ubisoft so hard with that Michael Bay shit.

>>121598154
Of course. That was the
>implication

>Lotus will never be replaced with Lambert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQg80Y0R7oQ

>>121598008
You mean Hitman: Blood Money.

ded

>>121596754
Because stealth never works
And just because it doesn't work in Warframe
It won't work in anything, right?
Totally, man. Totally.

>>121600545
name a single MMO where stealth is a fun, viable option

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>>121598482
>this stupid cunt will never be replaced
don't even remind me, man

>>121600710

World of Warcraft

>U18 hits
>Have to buy access to the orokin moon.

It's gonna happen and you know it.

>>121598482
>hide in a shadow
>visibility meter is at its lowest tick
>bright wall behind you
>enemies in front of you
>enemies can't see your outline and don't attack
>>>>>stealth

nice ambient soundtracks though

>>121598482
>>121600736
>Tfw no SHODAN commanding you
>No AIframe
>No fun allowed
On a related now, has anyone tried Vindictus? how is it?

>>121601538
Good combat, cute waifus, but once you start grinding for gear to even do a small amount of damage to an enemy you should stop playing.
Also it's deader than Elvis and filled with bots.

>>121601871
Well shit, I guess I'm going back to looking for a new mmo

>>121602230
Waiting on BnS or BD?

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>>121600710
go back and read the first letter on each line

>>121602517
I'm not sure what either of those are.

>>121602615
Blade & Soul
Black Desert

Both are up-and-coming MMOs that look at least moderately promising.

>>121602615
Blade and Soul
Black Desert

And when you're shilling Korean grindfests, don't forget Tree of Savior.

I will probably play all of them

>>121602739
>>121602782
samefag

>>121602739
black desert is garbage
they wasted all of their budget on the character creator
gameplay is worse than archeage

do not know enough about blade and soul but it just looks like a typical korea grind mmo

>>121602739
>>121602782
ToS I am aware of, but no way of playing it because Korean CBT. A shame because the oracle class looks interesting just by being an oracle.
I'll check out Black Desert and Blade&Soul, I think I'm just about ready to get off the ride.

>>121584674
>maybe. Or maybe not :^)
except it is. there's been saryns running around with ignis on draco the day of the nerf.

it's not a ground breaking discovery, and you're not the first to figure it out. you're just a shit poster that's seeking attention.

How can I make the Vaykor Hek better than the regular Hek without Primed Ravage?

>>121604578
By swapping it out with a regular hek.

>>121604578
You can't. Even with a maxed primed ravage.
Shitty crit per pellet will never surpass another shot fired. Not in million years

>>121604578
you don't

>>121604809
>>121604834
>>121604848
Does the double ammo capacity really not help the DPS?

Damn, I hope I can sell this trash

>>121605049
Name 1 post-DEAC build that uses ammo drum, magazine warp, wildfire

>>121605049
You do get more sustained on average, but you're relying on a ~50% chance of critting for that sustained. Regular Hek just does it right out of the box.
Besides, the V. Hek has a longer reload.

>>121605049
if it's not unranked you can't sell it.

>>121604578
No, the Hek cannot be improved upon. It's literally perfect.

>>121605617
Yeah, it's still unranked. The problem is actually getting someone to buy it

>>121606106
Ask your new loka bros to trade for the superior and better in every way shotgun, then sell that for 50p

>>121601252
>implying i give a fuck about this game
i am here just to shitpost

>>121604578
DE already secretly nerfed normal HEK, I'm sure syndicate one is on par or better (don't play anymore to max and test it)

>>121605292
Magazine warp Tonkor
it's better than reload speed on it

>>121602739
Black desert is P2P tho.

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Fucking normies

>>121596754
The game can be played in solo. Your argument: shattered.

>>121607778
EX DEEEEEE!!! xD

>>121602739
Blade & Soul is another garish pedo/waifu sim that just like Tera (if thats your thing), also it has no longlasting appeal or any endgame. Nice combat system.

Didn't play BD.

>>121602782
Tree of Savior is basically Ragnarok sequel, not an action game.

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>>121607146
#doubt

>>121608476
actually my bad
Its 45 for magazine warp

>>121608476
That assumes you're constantly reloading and firing for a constant 38 seconds. Magazine warp has better burst damage.

>>121608008
>wasting resources to develop solo instances
aboboo faggot, cry me another one

>>121609014
>empty mag
>0.9 seconds to reload and empty mag again
>2.9 seconds

>shit warp
>empty mag
>2.0 seconds to reload and empty mag again
>5 seconds

>better burst
Can't argue with that

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>>121609378
>trying to argue with a shitter with facts
Just stop. Shitters are incapable of using their brain and thinking.

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>>121609378
>+55% reload speed
>2 secs become 0.9 secs

>>121609636
Did you fail elementary school math?

>>121609765
Go into the game and check, shitlord.

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>>121609590
Can you not? We're having a reasonable discussion here.

>>121609765
He's right though, reload speed doesn't work that way. Otherwise when you hit 100% you'd get instant reloads.

How much would trading for ember prime parts cost? I have most of the pieces in my inventory, but I'm missing some. Seems they removed it from the drop tables while I wasn't playing

>>121609879
>>121610119
Even with that it still has better "Burst" than magazine warp at 3.29
There is absolutely no reason to ever use +mag size mods.

>>121609636
>>121609765
>>121609879
>>121610119
Base Reload Time/(1+ Reload Speed Bonus) = Reload speed
2/(1+0.55)=1.29 s reload

>>121610236
Warframe.market usually is pretty reliable to see the running prices for things, just base yourself off the average Sell price, low and high ends are unreasonable quicksales or delusional idiots.

>>121608662
if you used calc it doest change Tonkor mag size with Mag warp
cost of getting and maxing Prime Fast hands makes it highly inefficient alternative (or simply impossible for newer player)

>>121610356
except you're better off using hammer shit than primed fast hands.

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>Archwing gives new Saryn a permanent upskirt

DE finally figured out how to get people to play archwing

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>all these fags mad about the saryn rework

-Use an atomos
-Get a shotgun with high status
-Build both for viral and radiation
-spore spam
-spore spam again to make sure that shit everywhere
-molt if you're ever below max hp
-while molt is active SPORE THE MOLT(YES YOU CAN SPORE YOUR OWN MOLT FINALLY BASED DE)
-if anythings alive and is hurting you molt again and press 4

Why is everyone so bad at this game.

>>121608476
Also 0.9 is incorrect, its 1,29 seconds

>>121610565
Site doesn't seem to be working right now, but I'll keep checking, cheers

>>121611729

aren't you that retarded tranny that can't speak? fuck off

>>121611729
>use a better frame instead of useless ass

fixed for you

>>121611729
or for high level enemies i can just use tonkor and clear groups of level 100+ enemies in one shot, and for non-endless missions and DEAC i can just grab a max strength ember, press 4, and walk around.

saryn is now shit, and no amount of shilling by scrubs such as yourself will change that. her whole point before the nerf was the quickly clear enemies in DEAC and non-endless missions, and now there are better alternatives.

>>121611860
It breaks sometimes. And if you're on mobile the items take a long time to load but it's by far the best option if you're learning the prices.
Better than fucking WFT for sure.

>>121612064
I hardly post here nigger.

I stopped playing around the time they were talking about making multishot cost more ammo.
Did they do that, and is the saryn rework bad? I only ever used her to nuke my way through void and alerts, but I still liked her as she was.

>>121611727
Once I played sharkwing, its really chill and looks pretty, too bad the gameplay is barely there. Wasted potential.

>>121601339
games were pretty good until conviction shat the bed

>>121612126
>>121612129
>The delusion
I knew the demographic for this game was a bunch of autistic pre-teens but atleast try to not spreg at any given opportunity.

If you thought saryn was shit before your opinion wont change now because, lets be frank. Solo'ing high level is the only fun part about this game.

>>121612563
Saryn's 1 now does more dps than her 4, they also lowered her effective HP while trying to make her forced into melee for her 3.
For the multishot question, they delayed it, because there was enough outcry that fatfuck was forced to look at the damage system at its core and there will most likely be a Damage 3.0 next year.

>>121613403
>next year
Its in less than 23 days m8

>>121613106
>the low quality baiting

you'll have more luck at forums with this

>go to seimeni
>before I even load I hear frost globe sound effect
>alt+f4

Why am I even playing anymore

>>121615075
>not just sitting in a high place and doing nothing for the mission
I silently protest your shit use of abilities

>>121613649
>december 2015

>>121615075

It's semeni, just fucking sit afk and get your credits you fucking retard

>tfw regret not buying Gersemi
>tfw I didn't play Valkyr then
>tfw didn't think it looked good
>tfw I still don't play Valkyr
>tfw I still don't think it looks good
>tfw I regret not buying it all the same

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>Hello guys this is the cumeater sissy
>Look goyz saryn is OP, I said before she's a great damage dealer but since I got BTFO now I say she's a "debuff frame"
>Oh look I can't even do shit against lvl 100 enemies
>Better use a TONKOR to do the job
>Still shilling for DE
>Never brings any argument or actual data/numbers

Jesus christ this fag has his brain full of semen or what?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGDmj_6ZIzY

>>121615885
I'd rather drop dead than aknowledge a frostshitter

>>121611729
>Still trying to shill a mercury frame.
Valkyr does a better job at cleaning a room without her 4, and uses less total energy to boot.
>>121612252
You're posting here now, that says something.

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>>121616172
>I would rather die than enjoy free credits for no effort

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>https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/557887-list-of-broken-frames/
>Player rightfully angry a frame he sunk a ton of time and effort into is destroyed
>"lol you can't press 4 to win anymore, deal with it it's beta"

Why do I ever step on the forums and pretend it will be anything but shit.

>>121616451
Yes I would you frostshitter. Just because you're eating shit that doesn't mean everyone else has to

>>121615938
thats how DE hooks you on and makes you spend money, resist

>>121615938
>think nemesis skin looks like shit
>didn't even see it in market because i don't check it unless i'm aware of new additions
>saw only one person with the skin and it looked like shit
>still regret not having it

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Why do people fight over Dark Sectors if they're just going to put a 0% tax on it anyway?

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>>121617158

Dickwaving.

>>121616759
Just leave feedback in the 'community hot topics' thread, hoping DE will have to buff Saryn, ignore the idiots gloating about the nerf of a frame they dont play

>>121617241
Alright, then I guess question 2 is why do they put a 0% tax? It's saying no to free money.

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>>121617245

Already voted. I just wish Nova or Rhino would get a nerf so I could watch the forums burn down.

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>tfw DE outjews you

>>121617504

Because someone else would fight them and get all the support for only having a 0% tax.
It used to be 15% or 20% tax on most sectors but it's gotten so low because people fight for whichever one costs them the least.

>>121617158
>tfw you'll never grab 500k credits a run on V vs ICE hotspots again

>>121617746
Moa frame when

they should make PVP and Invasions into NPC slap fights, where you play as corpus bots and grineer clones.

>>121617746
Then get 3 min duration Rhinos+Trin to spam stomp at Draco. Post a vid at forums and plebbit showing everyone the new easy way to farm.
DE will have to nerf Rhino too.

>>121603251
Kulstar works too works too. Ogris with firestorm if you know how not to die

I'm getting conflicting reports on whether the damage portion of Justice Blades works during Hysteria. Anyone know for certain? I'm trying to test it but with no real luck since I don't have the Simulacrum.

They should add generic field bosses, sort of like the giant units from ME3, like the Atlases or Banshees.
That would make things fun.

>>121620425
weapon syndicate mods dont work on Valk or Excal (lazy DE just copypated the code from Excalibur)

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ok, I think I'm done now. Or there are things I could do to boost damage even more? I still want to get my hands on piercing caliber but its price is kinda too much

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>>121620834
>piercing hit

>>121620754
Damnit, that sucks. What a waste of a mod. Are the Dual Cleavers still worth using for Hysteria? Their base damage sucks but from what I understand that doesn't matter for Hysteria. They have a nice 25%/3x crit though which is the best of all my melee weapons, and AFAIK that does carry through to Hysteria.

>>121621191
Mods carry over for hysteria, weapon stats don't.

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>>121620834
hi Sheldon, thank you for fucking up droptables!

>>121620834
You don't need shred, I would put in metal auger and go with corrosive /fire for the extra bullets. Also swap piercing hit for the critchance mod.

>>121621331
No stats at all? Not even crit? So all that matters basically is the mod capacity/polarities? Wow. Even for DE that's pretty fucking sleek.

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>>121621407
>You don't need shred, I would put in metal auger

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guys my hands are really cold but i can't really use a keyboard with gloves on
my fingers are icicles
not cold enough to justify turning on the heater either

what do i do

>>121621013
>>121621407
ok, thanks. will put something better instead of p hit
> corrosive /fire
I switch between corrosive/gas/viral depending on a mission, so not a fan of this decision
>You don't need shred, I would put in metal auger
whats the difference?

>>121622182
Stick your hand up your butt

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>>121622182
>my fingers are icicles
>I'm not cold enough to justify using a heater

>>121621520
They supposedly upped the crit chance of Hysteria to compensate for it. It should be like 80% with mods now.

>>121622332
take off shred and p hit, put on point strike and vital sense

>>121622182
I used to play guilty gear to warm my fingers up after coming home in winter,

>>121622349
momentary relief
hand went back to frozen once i got back on keyboard

>>121622401
rest of my body, including my butt, feel fine
my hands just always get cold way faster

>>121622332
Shred adds fire rate and punch-through. Metal Auger only adds punch-through, but almost double of what Shred adds.

>>121622428
Do we know what Hysteria's base crit chance and damage are now then?

>>121622182
Get a kotatsu.

>>121622634
I believe it's 50% base chance and 2x base multiplier, but I could be wrong.

>>121622749
looks neat but that would only help with everything that isn't my hands or face

>>121622558
that sounds good. will try. thanks!

>>121622332
Corrosive/fire is really not a decision based on the debuff but of the mods. I think wild fire gives you fire damage and a larger magazine.

Try out shred vs metal auger and tell me what you think, I feel like the fire rate does nothing for the latron.

>>121622604
If your hands are cold, it means your room is cold. Get a small space heater or something. Or alternatively, get a shitty laptop and let minecraft idle on it.

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>>121622898
>not understanding circulation
If it's because you're a smoker, you deserve it.

Also, blood bending frame when?

>>121623981
What if they changed Mind Control so the controlled unit would face the same way as you when you ADS'd and shoot enemies in that general direction.
Would that be a good start or is that a dumb idea?

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So if only mods affect Hysteria, how does this look? Would like Reach too but I wouldn't want to replace any of these mods.

>>121623981
i don't smoke
i do exercise
i have big hands tiny wrists and long fingers

>>121623981
>Hydroid
>Energy Colour: Red
>cast 1
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ZqFlw6hYg

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>>121624405
Looks good.

>>121624447
Like this?

>>121624405
You should consider finding a free slot for reach, if you have the primed version and only if you're facing nullifiers. It really helps against them because you can hit the bubble from further away.
Otherwise just go for damage

>>121624405
Here is the kicker: IT DOESNT MATTER
unless you want to solo 2hr survival, Hysteria does shitton of damage anyway. Fatfack cant do any math for better or worse.

>>121624656
jesus christ man what is wrong with that guy
I mean I have long fingers but not like that
that's just creepy

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>>121625364
>have been repeatedly formaing a Chroma to try and make him practically invincible
>make a Valkyr for shits and giggles
>at rank 10, is already literally invincible and can fit all her needed damage mods onto an unformad weapon
Is this what being NTRd feels like

>>121626547
I think he's been having Crystal treatment

Looks like Marfan Syndrome to me