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Get Fucking Bullied, Kid Edition

PSN profile posted >>121341662

>Patch 1.05
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/07/information0706.html

>DLC Info (Out 24/11/2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bloodborne-ps4/the-old-hunters-dlc/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel & Deal Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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>>121497914
>Get Fucking Bullied, Kid Edition
>Not Bullyborne edition
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>121497219

I think it follows logically from the lore, since it's in the same configuration as the saw cleaver/spear. Supposedly the burial blade is the foundation of all trick weapons, and you can see several similarly-shaped blades hanging both in the church workshop and in the hunter's dream. But that doesn't really explain why there are saws. I think the burial cleaver is the missing link weapon between Gehrman's scythe and the saws which became emblematic of the old workshop. Someone developed a scaled-down version of Gehrman's weapon that would never impede your ability to use a gun, and then later came the realization that serrated weapons are more effective against beasts, leading to the cleaver with serration along the back, and then the spear with serration on both sides.

>>121497926

To me the clearest indicator is thoughtful use of R2/L2 and trick attacks.
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>>121498401

>tfw BoM L2
>it's the flashy scimitar backstep attack from DS1 except it's actually useful now

I cry tears of joy.
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Yo /bbg/, for my BLT build I dunno whether to go rapier(40/40) or katana(25/50) for BL98? Currently I'm BL80 with 25/40. What's a more fun build to use gunslinger or edgelord?
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Fire gives pheonix pyre, air gives mistform and cloud trapeze for mobility, nature gives personal regeneration. But really, an actual SC needs something that can kill an army, which limits you to stuff like soul vortex, firestorm, soul drain, and so on. Of course, a lot of these are hard to cast and knock the caster out, so getting a SC that works and won't die to any number of mages is pretty damn hard.
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>>121498823
Katana 25/50 for full autism
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>>121498823

If you're 25/40 you're already invested far enough into BLT that it's not really worth doing anything else. Get it to 50 and unzip that katana. You can still use Reiter but don't expect to get much damage out of it, for your second slot you're really just hoping that the DLC introduces a new bloodtinge-based trick weapon.
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>>121498823
I'm having a laugh on my 25/50 with reiter and bma
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>>121497914

You know, you can have played extensively with every weapon without having the trophy.

They have to all be on one character.

I have over like 400ish hours on Bloodborne and I am missing both the weapon trophies, although I have used all of them on different playthroughs.

I don't just pile all weapons on one character to get trophies. I also do not want to do the Watch Over The Dream ending.

However, not having Chalice Dungeons does make that guy a bit of a bitch.
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>>121498882

I wonder what general this post was meant for.
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>>121499178
>hoping that the DLC introduces a new bloodtinge-based trick weapon.
really hope they do

>>121499178
>>121499106
>>121499323
25/50 it is then, also that damage
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didn't someone mention an impromptu FC tonight?
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So are most guys here from burgerland? I would like to finally make a good pvp char and partake in communion but if the fights will be a laggy mess I won't be to eager.
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is bl 113 considered overleveled?
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>>121500419
get over it mang
just have fun
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>>121500419
I'm slav and have at least 600 hours in BB so far.
Most of the burgerlanders ain't that laggy.
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FIGHT BLUB

SATURDAY, NOV. 7TH @ 6pm EST

FIGHT CLUB

KY BEST LUBE BRAND
HILY RECOMMEND

FIGHT CLUB
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>>121501771
That sounds really boring.
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>>121501771
>If a note is rated 'fine', let your opponent heal
Is this a fight club or little bitch club?
Literally fucking kill yourself.
>If you are hosting you have to blood bullet so its fair for some bitch that will more than likely spam parry
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>>121502058
Honestly this is the reason i hate organized pvp in souls games.
Literally the only time i had fun in them was in some humanity fight clubs in DS1.
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>>121501771
Why is healing never allowed? All it does is make the fights way too quick and boring.
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/bbg/ PRE-DLC TOURNAMENT

>WHEN?
Starting Friday, November 20th at 7pm EST and continuing as needed the following days.

>WHERE?
To be determined, but probably a Non-FRC Isz one of us can make since the last took place in Loran. If you would like, create an Isz CD and submit the glyph, to be listed, to [email protected] or ragincajunnugz on the PSN. Keep in mind: little or no enemies, a messenger bath, and open-closed glyph.

>RULES
Same as Fight Club, but a few changes:
- Host will be neutral and streaming, so no one needs to Blood Bullet
- All gems acceptable
- Best 2/3 (semi-finals will be best of 5, Finals will be best of 7)
- BL 120 cap (those who feel the need on a lower than 120, when facing a 120 as your opponent, may savescum, level up, and then fight)
- There will be no complaints of lag. If you believe lag is the cause of your loss, take it like a man.
- After a character has been selected to participate, there will be no changing once the Tournament has started.
- Rules subject to change, stay updated.

>SIGN UPS
Message ragincajunnugz on the PSN or email [email protected] with your Character name and Blood Level.

>PRIZE
Winner will receive either a $20 PSN or the Bloodborne DLC, The Old Hunters.
Delivery of prize pending region locking.

Last date for sign-up is Thursday, November 19th.

Voting (voting to be final Nov. 17th):
Healing - http://strawpoll.me/5849318
Restrictions - http://strawpoll.me/5849344
Type of Tourny - http://strawpoll.me/5849411

Last Tournament: https://youtu.be/GepsJFnlLqw

I may have forgotten something and I am open to suggestions, so either reply to this post or the above PSN/Email with ideas or information.
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>>121502332
It makes fights unfair
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'ello 'ello 'ello, what's all this, then?
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>>121500419
Canuck here
I find most of my scrums are slightly laggy but mainly because I have standard copper wire high speed, which gets maybe 3.5 down and 1 up
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>>121502058
>>121502327
you can blank out if someone doesnt follow your rules

>>121502332
Try putting on those hp runes, they give you a 400+ hp increase
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>>121502671
How? In my opinion, it adds another layer to the pvp that makes it way more fun than getting three shotted by everything.
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>>121502035
>>121502058
>>121502327
>>121502332
Wtf happened to /bbg/?
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>>121502908
Host heals for 12% more
>2shots
Why did you try to trade with that blunt gemmed LHB?
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>>121502738
I do have the runea on and being able one or two extra hits doesn't make fights that much better.
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>>121502946
DLC fags, even lucy's one of them
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>>121502332
Because the host is a little pussy bitch.

>>121502671
>It makes fights unfair

>A feature that both participants can use in the exact same way
>unfair

I bet you think people making more money than you is also unfair huh?

Literally end your disgusting life, faggot.

>>121502738
>you can blank out if someone doesnt follow your rules
Are you retarded?
People saying its stupid that healing isn't allowed, and you reply with "you can blank out" you're either not understanding what's being said or are being a real fucking retard.

>>121502738
>Try putting on those hp runes, they give you a 400+ hp increase

>>121502671
>It makes fights unfair
Come on nigger, defend this shit, explain to me how using a blood vial that both player have access to is more unfair than one being decked out with runes that the other might not even have.

>>121502946
Little bitches that wanna clutter pvp with random pointless rules because they can't hold their own in a regular fight happened to /bbg/
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>>121503115
how so?
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>>121502908
Hosts heals for more and has the full extent of their maximum HP.
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>>121502946
Buncha scrubs is what it looks like
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>>121503201
>>121503064
>Host heals for more
>Host
>heals for more
>Fight club
>Host fighting in a fight club

Was DSII your first from software game? Or were you just dropped on your head as a baby?
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If you've never been to a Fight Club, please leave.

I'd rather watch another Loranon spat go off.
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>>121503162
>>121503437
holy fucking shit
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>>121502035
>>121502058
>>121502327
>>121502332
>>121502908
>>121503115
>>121503162
>>121503437
GET THE FUCK OUT
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>>121503651
I think it's all one guy. Not just those two posts, but everything concerning FCs this thread.
Shitposting changes a man.
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>>121504047
Don't lump me in with them,
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>honorfaggots
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>>121504197
>Don't lump me in with them
This much of denial?
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>>121503437
>>121503162
If you want healing fights and no rules, MENSIS IS RIGHT OVER THERE.
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>>121504326
Do actual invasions, fucker.
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Is there a way to dupe so you could get many blood echoes right from the start?

I already have played through the game many times, I just want to become a REALLY high level right from the start
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>>121504445
I don't understand.
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>>121503162
Don't think anyone will take your extremely butthurting post this seriously you sensative retard. But congrats m8 you're being the dumb cutie attention whore on this thread.
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>>121504864
No, but you could ask to he summoned by someone in NG+ and level up off the echoes they get by clearing central yharnam. The alternative is to just delete update data to get back to a patch that had duping enabled.
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There are people in 6cb7ieyy right now.
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>>121499639
Looks like Dominions
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>>121498390
anyone got a proper link saved? I tried typing it in the url and it aint working.
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This is not nice thread
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>>121507435
Go to previous threads.
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Does anyone have any idea how BoM and Burial Blade are affected by flat bolt or fire gems?

Are they like the Blt weapons that ignore the elemental damage or do they actually work?
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>>121508526
trying to look in that damn thread for the past ten minutes and couldn't find it, was it removed or am i just being autistic?
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>>121499416
Uh no? The weapons come to you easily with no effort, it's weird to NOT have that trophy.
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>>121510020
He doesn't have the beast claws if he didn't do chalice dungeons.
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>>121498401
>trick attacks
>on BoM
Seriously? They're super slow.
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>>121510445
>not doing CDs on your first playthrough

DLCfags are here.
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I need to kill shadows of yharnam but i'm so fucking tired
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>>121510716
there is not one attack on the blade of mercy that is slow
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>>121509953
Holy fuck, found in 30 seconds
>>121264505
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>Tfw 50 ARC A Call Beyond
>Tfw all beams hit
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>>121510726
I've played since release day and I did the chalice on my first run. I was just stating that the all weapons trophy doesn't just come to you until after you do the Loran chalice at least.
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>>121511068
The trick attacks are jarringly slow, especially if you chain them

I dunno man I haven't gotten good with them
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>>121511125
thanks bruh, i really am retarded.
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Should I move my 5 level 80 characters up to level 98? I'm currently just running with some 18-21% gems
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>>121511772
np
I'm sorry I yelled at you.

Ctrl+f PSN profile to find.
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>>121512562
its all chill
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Is a Saw Spear + BT build viable while staying around level 60/70? I wanna play with guns but I love the SS and not keen on Reiter and Chikage
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>>121511068
Is this okay for stopping at 98 for using BoM in pvp? Is that enough endurance?
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>>121513720

You could probably do 25/25 skl/blt with 30 vit and low end around that level. Your guns won't be as powerful as they could be, though, and neither will your spear. But varied options are underrated when it comes to PvP imo.
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First time platying, are all the weapons viable or some of them are total shit?
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http://www.amazon.com/Bloodborne-Old-Hunters-Collectors-Guide/dp/3869930721

Looks like Future Press will release a 208 page Old Hunters guide in December. This is most likely the mystery project that ENB mentioned that he's been working on lately.
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>>121515364
They're all perfectly viable.
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>>121515268
>implying bad gun damage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBbfiB0JSeI
I think that's some solid damage. You just so happened to basically outline my build I used in this video.
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>>121515481
Do you have the original guide? Do you think it's worth getting?
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>>121515514
>BL80
>saw spear
>cannon
???
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>>121515491
>stake driver
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>>121515819
I have the guide and its super useful.
I mainly use the maps and have it as reading material when on the shitter.

It's in the OP if you wanna look at it.
Pretty cheap if you want to buy it.
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>>121515364
All of them are viable, but some are slightly more so than others, but mostly only in PvP.
You probably shouldn't pick the saw spear / cleaver if you want a challenge.
They have a huge bonus against most enemies.

>>121516158
It punches and r1 mashes well enough.
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>>121516158
Are you saying those people who perfectly time the drives to helplessly smack down bosses don't exist? It has a really high skill barrier, but it works just fine. Unless you're talking about PvP, which I don't bother taking into account when a brand new player is concerned.
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>>121515819
You can get it if you're interested in collectibles, or for the artwork that's in it which is really good. I don't think anybody is that bad that they would actually need guide strategies for bosses or enemies, and the numbers mentioned in the guide are always subject to change in patches.
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>>121516032
>ignoring the Rifle Spear shots for 900+
Get with it bro.
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>>121516248
Well I don't like their desing anyway, they look too brutal
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So i just pre-order the dlc yesterday and i was wondering will i get extra goodies and bonus when the expasion gets release?
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Hunters, would I be able to acquire some help with Mensis? Area is pretty spooky.
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>>121516997
Yeah, those are pretty good but I'm just wondering what the build is
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>>121517794
I told you he outlined the build pretty accurately. It's 30str 25skl 25blt 30vit. There's str in there for the canon etc but that has no bearing on the rifle damage. A repeater in his hands is pretty strong too.
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>>121516234
The guide is spackled with outdated information and outright misinformation in a few areas, and in some cases simply doesn't have information at all. It doesn't mention visceral attacks scaling with skill, doesn't explain how they're physical damage or what that means for gems, its gem guide is absolutely useless and flat out wrong in all but a select few areas, its weapon guides are surprisingly good but have false info in a couple places like when they tried to say the Reiter's bullet damage changes to elemental when you put an elemental gem in it, the description for the Hunter of Hunter rune mechanics is literally wrong in every way, and a few other things that don't immediately spring to mind.

That said, the maps are indeed super useful and include things like insight and time restricted events, the weapons guide is very good barring a couple of exceptions like Reiter, and the walkthrough part is as good as any.
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>>121518520
>Full of inaccuracy

Not really surprising I suppose. Unless the guide's info is patently supplied by From it stands to reason that its often wrong for a game that's purposely obtuse.
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>>121517598
Damn Grimshaw's style is delicious.
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>>121517718
Nobody?
pls the spiders are raping me
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>>121514415
sum1 pls rrspond
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Does anyone here go by "HereticHavoc"?
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>>121519654
Omg
Level and pass?
Might come on this gimmick 10vit arc build.

>>121519878
Yes
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>>121520648
73, bbg123
Thank you kindly, ringing at lamp.
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Can your bullets inflict poison with poison blood gems?

Would a poison rifle spear work?
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>>121520648
>phys%/+flat-arc gems
>20str/89arc
>1,019 tricked R1 dash with Wheel on a shadow in Mensis
Oh boy, this is paying off.

>>121520946
k
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>>121521023
No

>>121519878
Also, yes because my twink has 12 End, but 131 stam with runes.
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>>121516158
>stake driver
>not viable
Bruh
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>kill everything in the room
>host dies
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>>121520648
>>121521357
Thanks for the reply. Starting new because I lost all my old saves. Kinda wanna murder Eileen at the start for them, but dat rune.
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>>121515481
>208 pages
>just for TOH
Jesus christ. Either they're padding the shit out of this or this expansion is way bigger than we were anticipating.
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>Suspicious Beggar is conscious while in beast form

Was Djura right?

And isn't it, after all, all your fault?
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>>121524005
>or this expansion is way bigger than we were anticipating.

It supposedly doubles the arsenal of weapons and tools, for what that's worth.
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>>121524358
>Was Djura right?

I kinda doubt it, unless you're positing that your average person and child is only not tearing apart everyone around them because of their lack of claws.

That said, is it ever addressed what happens to beasts when the Hunt ends? Do they turn back into people or are they permanently transformed?
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Someone come to 6cb and fight this 10vit arc build.

>>121522927
Oh, the guy that has the str build I think it was?
Good luck, familia.
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>>121525109
Anon that you helped before with Micolash.

Explain 6cb for me? I haven't really explored chalice dungeons much.
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>>121525396

>>121501771
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>>121525109
You better blood tap
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>>121525878
>286 HP
I wouldn't want an advantage or anything.
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>>121525878
>>121526009
402 I mean
There are also others in here apparently.
Look for Bone Ash chest and cainhurst everything else.
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>>121526009
>Behind the grave
>Still died
Forgot about phantom hitboxes fml
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>>121525520
Thx, omw. I don't have a meta build but don't go easy
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>>121526327
I had to call for help from the beyond.
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Chrism
I need to gem and +10 my other weapons, this is just R1 dash spam the build for now, with tools.
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>>121526690
How much damage does tiny toni do? I wanna see if I can one shot you with it
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>>121497914
I'm trying to beat all of the bosses in Bloodborne with only 10 vit (level 26 overall) while only using the flamethrower.

But I'm stuck on the second stage of Gherman. His shotgun one hits me and I have no clue when he is going to use it.

I'm going to have to farm Blood vials soon because that was a great mechanic to add to the game.

Does /bbg/ have any ACTUAL tips to predict when he is going to shoot.
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>>121527310

I don't know how to do it personally, but what I'd do is look up some waste of skin NG+++++++ playthroughs and see what they do.
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>>121527310
When he lifts up his gun - he's going to shoot.
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>>121526690
Bretty good. What level's the build?
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>>121527310
He tends to use it every time he rolls / dashes for me.
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>Trying to trade with a pimp
I came underprepared.
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are people still fighting?
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>>121529047
yeah, a few are.
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>>121527440
>>121528063
I'm not sure how your advice just helped me when I already new them but thanks. I just had a run that got him down to 25% of is heath. Shit was intense.
I lost to him but I was so proud of myself that I saved it as a clip, lol. This guy is tough.
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REMINDER
ROSMARINUS OP CAN'T WIN AGAINST IT FROM PLS NERF
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>>121527706
98
10
12
20
12
5
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What is that, a 12 vit wheel build? At least use it tricked if you're going to bone up and hit O and R1 repeatedly.
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>>121530012
I accidentally did that trick attack.
10vit
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>>121503162
oh fuck it's loranon bois
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>>121529657
>Fighting bully with bully
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>>121530607
Here's that reply you wanted, anon.
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>>121503651
>>121504047
>>121504756
>>121505274
>Let me tell you why I think people aren't allowed to have opinions.

I'll make sure to keep that in mind if I find any shits to give.
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>>121502620
>>PRIZE
Winner will receive either a $20 PSN or the Bloodborne DLC, The Old Hunters.
Delivery of prize pending region locking.
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>>121502738
>you can blank out if someone doesnt follow your rules
>Blanking out red phantoms.
>Host blanking out.

I'm joining just to kill the host and spam vials.
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>>121531553
What if I already preordered the DLC?
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>all this hostility
I've got just the thing to cool those hot heads
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>>121529383
Need a helping hand or are you trying to solo?
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Would anyone be up for running through some story chalices?
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>>121532338
No mate
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>>121531564
*Or quit out

>>121531301
Not about opinions, we made a private fight club to stay away from people like you, if you dont like rules then mensis is for you. Just stay out.
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>>121532410
Ok...
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>>121531873
I think you already know the answer, anon.
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>Beat Hot dog in my first try.

All those hours in MH4 are paying off.
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>>121532338
What chalices?
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>>121532734
I'm doing central Pthumeru at the moment. First time playing through CD's and aside from the Watchdog fight it's been pretty boring.
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>>121532883
Set up a pass and I'll be there.
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>when the dlc comes out, you will finally have a use for phys + fire gems
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>>121533629
Glyph yx2sara7, pass bbg6969

How does this work?
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>>121534056
I'm coming for that booty.
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How many are in 6cb and will you be there in an hour?
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>>121534261
Does it matter which layer I'm currently in?
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>>121534420
Not if I used the makeshift altar, just start ringing the bell.
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>>121529657
I don't understand why anyone uses Rosmarinus. Like, yeah its good, but its the exact opposite of viscerally satisfying. Its just a pale transparent cloud that makes things dead for some reason even though they don't really even react. At least the Flame Sprayer allows you to not suffer the beasts, witches, and heretics to live with glorious cleansing flames.
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>>121534676
I've been using the first ritual altar, currently on the second layer.
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>>121534409
0 and 0
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Worse than bed of chaos
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>>121535359
>STILL having problems with Rom after From nerfed her only really dangerous ability
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>>121535359
Monster Hunter that fucker.
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>>121534979
This shit isn't working for me. I don't get it, sometimes the makeshift altar gets me summoned super quick and other times it takes fucking HOURS for me to get summoned or to get help.
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>>121536524
Hm, I've been ringing for ages and nothing's coming up... we'll try another time. Sorry about that.
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How did an entire castle full of armored knights with edgy blood katanas and gun rapiers lose to some blind cone headed, robe wearing dumbasses using wheels as weapons?
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>>121516158
So you've never used the Stake Driver?
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>>121536672
blunt damage
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>>121536672
Have you seen Logarius, nigga?
This guy probably went in solo and left a trail of bodies and crippled cainhurst hunters ready for wheel treatment.
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>>121534056
I'll try and SRRC in if you're still poking around. What level are you?
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>>121537506
77. I'll only be on for another 10 minutes.
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>>121537601
Another time then. It'll probably take too long if I use SRRC.
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A fitting death.
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>>121536672

Their armor's weak to blunt and arcane.
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Expect a swarm of /v/garbage coming by here soon. More PC port nonsense.
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>>121539398
never
ever
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>>121536672
Those dumbass wheels get +30% more damage against cainhurst type enemies, not to mention most cainhursts are also weak to arcane damage. An executioner would only need to hit a vileblood once or twice to cause serious harm and possibly death, not to mention the Executioners could very well have had access to church magics what with the arcane stats.

It's more like a bunch of armored knights with blood katanas and gun rapiers losing to a squad of fanatical muscle wizards with divine interference.
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>>121535359
On the one hand, props for using beast pellets with the wheel. On the other, points deducted for doing it wrong.

The wheel basically flips its stats around in trick mode: physical is reduced by about 1/4th, and arcane is boosted by about x4. Beasthood boosts physical damage, but not arcane damage. So, normally you'd use the wheel's arcane mode to build up the meter really fast, then switch it back to physical mode for grinding and pounding.
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>>121535359
outplayed hard
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>>121540390
I was actually about to ask how it worked at some point. Thanks.
That's about 800 arcane with 3 72 flat arc gems? Damn.
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>>121542339
Correcting myself real quick: physical damage is reduced TO 1/4th, not by 1/4th.

And no, that isn't how it works. On a weapon with split damage, flat damage gems are not subject to scaling. They simply add their damage on top at the end of the equation. Therefore, the flat arcane damage would not be multiplied by x4. However, the flat arc damage is added on in full with every hit, which includes the tricked wheel's numerous multi-hit attacks like its quickstep R1, allowing flat arc gems out outdamage normal %up gems if you're using those moves.
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nice hitboxes
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Does HMPH just have parry invulnerability for some of his attacks or something?
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>>121542736
No b8 I wish From made a game that consisted of nothing but chalices.
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>>121543912
Agree absolutely. Exploring the labyrinth as a bunch of early Tomb Prospectors in search of secrets and treasure, before the discovery of blood? I'm imagining a Roguelike, but in full 3d with souls mechanics and standard dungeon crawl mechanics.

>equip the unidentified gem into your +3 sword?
>whoops, that gem was cursed. your health begins to drain away

>the room is dark
>you light a torch
>the three brainsuckers are displeased by this

>do you really want to inject yourself with the unidentified liquid?
>your left arm mutates and grows into a claw. gun unequipped
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>>121543912
A Souls dungeon crawler would be pretty sick. Layers upon layers of Sens fortresses...
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Would Bloodborne be difficult without the +3000% instability damage modifier?
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>>121544919
A game that doesn't punish you for making mistakes would logically be less difficult, yes.
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>>121544919
Not sure what you mean by instability, do you mean the counterhit thing? No, it probably wouldn't be quite so difficult. There'd be less broken controllers over the undead giants at least.
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>>121543912
I just want a boss rush mode
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>>121545105
Counterhit isn't the right word, since it also applies when running or dashing
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Are triangles just plain better than waning for physical builds?
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>>121546803

100%.
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>>121546527
That's exactly how counterhit damage worked in DaS1, so yes it is the right word. But the game itself refers to it as "attack vs. open foes".
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>>121546950
Not exactly
Running and rolling damage bonus was instability
Attack bonus against an attacking foe was a counterhit
Leo Ring only works on one, they're different
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Time for the best part of the chalice run, farming Ritual Blood 5 from Loran.
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>>121547229
Fair enough. But the game doesn't have a leo ring, therefor the difference doesn't exist.

>>121547252
You could always try farming a root defiled chalice instead. If you don't make them cursed, you won't suffer the HP penalty.
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>>121547252
If you followed the chalice guide and already have a CRF Isz you can farm blood 5 from 3nawt3ys. The pre-area bonus room has 4 blood (5)'s littered in chests in and very close to the bonus room. Takes less time to run to it and you get double the blood.
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>>121547797
Not him, but I once got over 50 ritual blood (5)s from a sinister isz dungeon. Didn't save the glyph though, because that wasn't exactly an unusual payout for sinister dungeons.
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>>121547797

That'll be good for when I get that FRC Isz made, thanks.
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>>121547252
for future reference, there are RB5s littered around some of the layers you have to get through anyway after making FRC isz, so it'll save you a few runs in ailing loran since you're nearby

I know there's at least 1 in defiled layer 2

1 in ihyll layer 1's pre-lantern bonus area and 2 in its pre-boss bonus area
2 in ihyll layer 2's main dungeon in the spiral staircase room and 5 in the pre-boss bonus area

if you're a physical build, you can pick up 1 RB5 per run through 5pwujscd, so you can at least look forward to that after making it
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Anyone care to post those arcane pictures?
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>>121550862
dispensing eyes
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>>121550948
If you use the workshop tool to brand runes into your mind, then does that technically mean equipping the eye rune puts eyes on your brain?
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>>121550948
>>121551169
many thanks friends
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>>121551169
Fun fact: it's possible to cast Executioner's Glove 64 times with enough Formless Oedon runes and blood vials.

>>121551331
I wasn't done, motherfucker. You need more eyes.
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>>121551395
oh lord even more thanks
i can feel the ocular protrusions opening upon my cerebellum
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What are the odds that FROM will update the SRRC to be able to filter what dungeon types you want? For fucks sakes there should be a FRC option at least.
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>>121551395
>>121551521
Just kidding, I really was done.

Formless Oedon lets you carry more bullets, Oedon Writhe gives you bullets for viscerals (if you don't mind doing shit damage), Blood Rapture lets you use viscerals to recover HP spent on blood bullets, Eye lets you find more bullets and vials off corpses, Radiant gems let you regenerate HP between fights for more blood bullets, and remember to always have at least 5 blood bullets before casting anything. This is how you space wizard with slugs.
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>>121551395
>64 times
Or 16 casts of ACB
I want to get +5 Pulsing gem for my gun and three offshapes for my weapon so I don't even need to heal after blood bullets, just run away
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>>121551724
Probably low, since that takes extra effort. It really is something they need to do though, filtering by depth, rite, and area would make co-op amazing and might even speed up the matching process.
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>>121551783
thank you friend, i will take this advice to heart and hope to slug wizard my way to glory
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Is there good source of thrust damage for a STR build, for fighting kin and stuff?
Does Ludwig's 2hr2 actually do thrust?
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>>121551892
You don't even need to farm off shape radiants, the hunter NPCs can drop naturals every once in a blue moon. There's a chance their drops are tied to the dungeon glyph though, so if they don't seem to be dropping anything useful try making a different dungeon.

Saw hunter drops radials, cainhurst hunter drops triangles, wheel hunter (isz only) and beast hunter (loran only) drop wanings, there's a ludwig's hunter (with arcane tools) and hammer hunter (with molotovs) who pop up every once in a blue moon too, but I forget what they drop or even where they appear. Might just be isz for the ludwig's, and hammer might be ihyll.
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>>121552217
Ludwigs and Kirk should be fine.
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Who wants to help me with Rom? Literally the only boos that gives me trouble every run. Byrgenwerth, lvl 46, no run. Password is /v/irgin
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>>121552225
err, that's supposed to be pulsing, not radiant. Sorry.
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>>121554489
Level doesn't matter with a password set, right? Or is that just for chalices?
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>>121555103
I can't remember for sure. If I'm correct it's for coop in general. Matches the lower leveled player's stats to the higher leveled player's or some shit.
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>>121555103
Level only matters in that you'll get downscaled if the difference is too large.
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>>121555345
>>121555383
Alright. I was 61, so I think I was in range anyway.
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Emperorjones, may all the best vaginas find your rod by the days end.
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>>121555383
Is there a limit to how much you get downscaled?
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>>121552217
Just use the small version of LHB and use the uncharged R2.
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I PLATINUMED THE GAME AGES AGO

I'M IN EU

WHY THE FUCK HAVEN'T I RECEIVED THE PLAT THEME YET AHHHHH
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>>121556003
I think so but I'm not sure where it ends.
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>making an overleveled OP PvE char with 50 in all stats
>using LHB, want to grind 27.2% stam down gems since it's going to be all PvE
>take four hours to grind out two radials with the right stats
>go to 5pwujscd, expecting the same shit
>first drop is 27.2% stam down
Conclusive proof that Isz > Ihyll. Fuck Pthumeru.
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>>121556946
Want to test it? What level are you?
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>>121557382
It'll be a few minutes but I'll get my 140 if you get your lowest.
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>>121557679
My highest is 544.
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>>121557773
Holy shit. I'll get my new character and ring at Central Yharnam if you want.
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>>121557976
Sure thing, pass?
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>>121558052
The password is bbg.
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Anyone wanna help me fight gherman? I'm lvl 78
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>>121558164
Pass is spoopy
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>>121558052
>>121558162
Ringing now.
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>>121558164
Sure thing chicken wing, make a password and ill be right there
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>>121558337
>>121558357
Pass is spoopy
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>>121558628
still searching family
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>>121558806
Try silencing and restarting idk why u ain't comin in boi
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>>121558337
Ha
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>>121558935
is your password right.
maybe try a more random password.
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>>121558972
That was some real downscaling.
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>>121558992
OK I changed it to bj69
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>>121559161
is there a proximity filter in hunters dream? i'm ringing at the fog gate, are you?
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>>121557248
Why didn't you just settle for beast and kin down gems and put them in two different LHBs?
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>>121558992
I'm gonna restart my ps4 same pass sometimes that's the issue 1 secc
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>>121559119
The only stat that changed in the stats screen was my health. Went from 1900 to 499.
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>>121559384
That was a possibility but it didn't work out that way. I got 5 kin downs and 1 beast down before I ended up with muh stamina ones
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>>121559420
>FROM IN CHARGE OF BALANCE
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>>121559420
I'm not sure why it doesn't list the damage decrease. I wish it did.
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>>121559380
Ringing right in front of gate for gherman. Lvl 78 pass is bj69
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>>121559460
Hindsight 20/20 but you probably could've just used a durability down LHB for those times you actually fight kin enemies and used a kin down LHB for everything else
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>>121559573
That's what I was hoping for.

Here's my stats.
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>>121559736
Probably. My plan for this character however is to +10 every weapon and then get enough chunks to +10 every weapon in the DLC. I don't want to do any more farming just for a second version of a weapon
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>>121559679
Pls help
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>>121559679
ok this is weird
maybe just fuck the passwords, i'm lvl 85
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>>121559986
You're not wearing an Oath rune, are you?
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>>121559986
I'll remove pass, does it matter what runes I have on?
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>>121559986
also are you set to worldwide?
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>>121559840
You were hitting for like 60 on the standard Yharnamites, from what I saw. Quite the drop.
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>>121560095
just dont have an oath rune on
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>>121560041
Yup I'll remove it, pass is back to bj69
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>>121560285
holy fuck i have no idea how to dodge that 6 hit scythe combo.
god speed, anon
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>>121560690
I lasted quite a while
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>>121560767
>no vials or bullets
What a tonsil mashing that was
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>>121560690
DAMN bro nice work. Still down to help with this monstrosity?
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>>121561174
I'm out of vials)): gotta go farm smore
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>>121561395
I've got ~120, i'll be down to help you with this behemoth for a while
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>>121561496
Awesome, where's the best place to farm vials
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Is there a quick and effective strategy for taking out chalice Rom other than the Flamesprayer method?

This has to be the most tedious and annoying fight in the game. It takes forever to beat him safely.
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>>121561757
Almost as tedious and annoying as your posts.
Good to see you're finally getting around to doing the chalice dungeons :^)
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>>121561757
Oh, is someone trying to go through chalice dungeons now?

Too bad, fucker. Earn the shit you kept trying to talk all this time.
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>>121521862
charge atk gems?
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>>121561757
I think it depends on the build. For my 50 BLT build I wiped out the first round of spiders with 2h chikage, and used a beast blood pellet for the half part of them. Then I got my stam back and wailed on rom, he was low so he teleported twice, then I spent the next few minutes running around the arena hiding behind pillars from the spiders/arcane missiles. Popped out every now and again to 360nolockonscope rom with BMA evelyn. Worked for me.

The "Call of Duty" method I guess.
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Reminder that Lucifer intentionally posts misinformation to confuse new players and provoke arguments. Leave him where he belongs.
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>>121561757
im a mage so that fight was ez with bolt damage lol

even cursed it's still not a problem if you just take advantage of the pillars
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>>121561707
Farm blood echoes to buy vials.
Safe method - lecture building first floor, in the room with all the slime students. lure them to one of the doors and smash away
Harder, but more echoes - Kill the shadows of yharnam and the pigs in mergos loft. Pigs give about 10k a kill, not sure about shadows
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>>121562059
OK will do mergoz loft, we'll be fighting again shortly
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>>121562059
easiest method that you're going to want to do anyway - progress through loran or any depth 4 and up dungeon

I don't know what in the fuck they were thinking, but once you get to depth 4, you get flooded with so many souls you could reach BL130 in a fucking hour.
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>>121561757
Literally the easiest boss in the game
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At 40 strength, should I go LHB or Kirk.
Kirk APPEARS to scale better but the moveset on LHB has done me better on multiple occasions
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>>121562178
They were probably thinking players would try to progress through dungeons as they were playing through the game, and that they wouldn't try depth 4 and 5 until NG+.

It'd be nice if they just patched out depths 1-4 entirely, removed the story and sinister chalices, added the sinister rite to the list of rites on depth 5 roots, and then came up with a whole bunch of other interesting rites for funsies.
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>>121562348
If you want to use LHB, put 25 in whichever of strength or skill you aren't using (skill, in this case) and you'll be good to go. But if you take the time to get used to Kirk, you might come to like it more. Try using the L2 and running R2 attacks.
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>>121562371
I don't think depths 1-4 don't need to exist, I just think 5 FRC should be accessible right away, with the only restriction from progressing it being your own ability.
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>>121562059
Okay you ready to take this thing dow mang?
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>>121562348
go 50/25 str/skl and use ludwigs
then use axe as a backup

both will do insane damage with the right gems
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>>121562547
sure, i'll ring at the gate
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>>121562469
Interesting angle. What about:

>only three chalices: pthumeru, loran, and isz
>when making a dungeon, depth can be selected along with rites
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>>121562469
I agree, just look at lucy.

He's stuck on, what, depth 3 rom right now?
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>>121562619
I'm beckoning, same pass
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>>121561757
Use your camera, kill the spiders first. Don't be a retard and bumrush Rom, literally banking on RNG liking you in that case
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>>121562660
yeah, that's fine

the only problem is how to handle materials
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>>121562727
easy 115k echoes.
Thanks anon, that was fun
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>>121562750
>telling lucy to not be a retard
It's going to be be one of those nights, isn't it.

>>121562796
Well, if depth is out of the equation, base ritual costs could probably just be removed entirely, and only materials for secondary rites would be needed. And maybe cut down on the costs of those, like Fetid costs only one head, Rotted costs only one backbone, Cursed costs only one bastard, and sinister costs only 10 haze. Make them rarer to compensate of course, but since you wouldn't need, say, six backbones for a dungeon, finding one becomes a hugely pleasant surprise.
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>>121562619
Well fuck dude, I'm a slug. What should I do now lol? Thanks by the way you kicked ass
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>>121563072
You're in ng+
Now the real fight begins etc etc
You should level up, buy some consumables and ritual materials
Thats right, time for some chalice dungeons motherfucker
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>>121563072
start new build or just continue for challenge

what else you could
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Lucy is trolling you guys pretty hard with that fake PSN profile huh
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>>121563330
Phase 3 damage control
Merely pretending, am I right?
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>>121563208
Would a wheel build be fun? Or just hindering and annoying?
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>>121561881
>>121561915
I have already beaten it. It's tedious as hell and takes like 15 minutes each time. I got the haze extractor back in April.

>>121562053
That's what I do, but I also take out the little spiders because the room gets too cramped otherwise.

>>121562264
BSB is the easiest boss in the game.

>>121562750
That's what I do. It just takes forever. Whenever I die it's only because I get impatient and try to rush Rom.

>>121563016
A night with conversation. We can only hope.

>>121563330
Nah, it's real. Most of my "Trophies" are on my xbox account.
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>>121563416
Highest strength scaling in the game.
You tell me
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>>121563490
OooOoo bb!!
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>>121563483
>Whenever I die it's only because I get impatient and try to rush Rom
If you know why you're dying and how to stop dying, why bother posting?
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>>121563483
>Most of my "Trophies" are on my xbox account.
Which Bloodborne trophies are on your xbox account?
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>>121563578
>>121563592
Jesus fuck guys, stop responding to it. He isn't going to leave if you give him what he wants.
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>>121563483
Don't touch my post ID with your disgusting self-esteem issues, tripfag.
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>>121563697
You're right, instead of calling out their shit, we should not say anything and let the newfags feed his ego with serious replies.
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>>121563838
That's when you reply to them and let them know he's doing the exact opposite of trying to help them. There's never any need to validate his childish behavior with responses of your own.
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>>121563838
>implying lucifag has an ego
Quite the opposite, he acts like that to feel better about himself.
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>>121563416
don't make a wheel build

it's the worst PvE weapon by far and is only good in PvP because of one attack

save yourself the trouble and do literally ANY other build
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>>121564117
Wheel is notable for being the only weapon in the game with hyperarmor on its one handed R1 attacks, which still allows it to shoot and parry.

But most people don't know how to play good prediction games, and they'd rather be the ones attacking than the ones trying to respond to an attack. That's why great class weapons have always been looked down on in souls games.
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>>121564117
We'll I already have 46 into str at the moment. So is it a Kirk build for me I guess?
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>>121563483
I thought you were a fucking pro at BB, how are you so bad at Rom?
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>>121564117
Why is that? It seemed to work pretty well for me. Mind you, I used the arcane variant, but it smashes stuff up in pve just fine.
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>>121563578
Because I know how to beat him, but it is tedious.

If I rush him to speed up the fight, I die.

So . . . I am asking about alternative, faster, less tedious strategies.

>>121563592
I didn't say Bloodborne, specifically. I am talking about games in general.

>>121563779
Are you hitting on me?

>>121564825
I am, but even supermen have their kryptonite.
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the pic in the OP wasn't used to give him attention, it was to dissuade newcomers from taking his advice

god knows what's going on in his posts, but I can only imagine it's yet another back and forth argument wherein both sides repeat their respective ideas in slightly different words each time with no conclusion in sight
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>>121564943
Lucy, you're bad at this game. You always have been. All this time, you've done the equivalent of never leaving the crib so you never have to face any real challenges.

Well, welcome to your first real challenge. I'd probably be more inclined to help you if you hadn't spent all this time talking about how amazing you thought you were or ruining the threads with your arrogant shitposting, but here we are and now you can go fuck yourself.
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>>121564943
>If I rush him to speed up the fight, I die.
Because you're bad. Good luck on Defiled Amy, you'll need all the help in the world.
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>>121565209
Oh man, I'm tempted to let him summon me just to stand around clapping while Amy gets a health buff.
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>>121565209
Not really. Amy is a joke, and the tactic for absolutely crushing her is already established.

>>121565183
So only the chalices count as challenge to you?

>>121565302
I solo bosses. Other people just hold me back.
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>>121565351
>Not really. Amy is a joke, and the tactic for absolutely crushing her is already established.

You have't ever fought Defiled Amy. You haven't ever fought Hotdog. What you spew out means absolutely nothing.
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>>121564272

It's also why they're very rewarding once you learn the art of them, by the by. They grant a lot of power to those who can utilize them.
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>>121565351
You've never killed defiled amy, go back to your shithole.

CFR chalices are harder than the main game, and it's not like you've ever done NG+ either. So, shush.

Enjoy your illusory bravado, built up over years of absolutely nothing. Someday, eventually, you'll beat the chalices, and it still won't mean anything. You could crush your PS4 into a fine powder and snort it, and your day-to-day life still wouldn't change because you never actually do anything with it but wait to die.

I'm going to outlive you, by the way. It'll be funny.
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>>121565414
Amy's cheese strategy is so simple and reliable that even someone like you could do it.

>>121565518
Thanks for the reply, I guess.
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>>121565351
This is why you should do something with your life, guys. You never want to end up this pathetic.

Please let us know when you finally beat Amy at bl240
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>>121565594
I don't plan on leveling beyond 88 before the DLC and 125 after, honey.
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>>121565590
>Amy's cheese strategy is so simple and reliable that even someone like you could do it.

Are you jealous of my platinum? Why don't you get your own?
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>>121565662
post em
>tfw no plebeian blacks screen platinum
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>>121565662
If you wanted to be an achievement whore, you purchased the wrong brand.

Anyway, All you have to do is stand in on one particular spot and charge your large LHB attack. Amy can't even hit you.
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>>121565821
Do me a favor and start streaming, I need a good laugh.
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>>121564272
>>121565427
An untricked reiter is similar in that regard, it's not a weapon that rewards aggressive play because of it's awful tracking and how particular of an angle most of it's slash attacks are at.
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>>121565821
>If you wanted to be an achievement whore, you purchased the wrong brand.
You're the one who brought up how easy it was. Where is your platinum?
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>>121566041
I am not an achievement whore. Getting the Plat isn't hard. It's just tedious.
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>>121566148
>I am not an achievement whore.

see

>>121563483
>Nah, it's real. Most of my "Trophies" are on my xbox account.
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>>121566148
>tedious

you can get the plat just by playing through the game once holy shit

no wonder you're absolute shit at the game if you think playing through it is tedious
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>>121566148
>tedious
no it isn't lol
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>>121566148
honestly man, hats off to you for getting this many people to take you seriously
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>>121566352
I get that he's just shitposting, but that doesn't somehow not make him an annoying fucking sperg. I'm just finding it hilarious that he can't beat the chalices.
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>>121566573
>But I have already proven that I can.
Yup, get back to us when you get that platinum
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Just fucking report him for derailing already, holy shit. Look at what this thread has become.
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Can you not get Rocks from layer 3 bosses if there's a fourth layer? I've been farming BriBri for a while now to get a rock but haven't been getting anyway
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>>121566895
Yes you can, and yes that means it's possible to get two rocks in a single dungeon. It's just very, very rare.
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>>121566803
Everything he posts is on-topic. He's an asshole for intentionally derailing the thread, yeah, but I doubt reporting him will do anything.
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>>121566951
Derailing by itself can be considered a violation of a couple global rules. Attempting to derail a general thread is certainly not out of the question.
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>>121566747
How do I need to beat Gerhman a 2nd time then not even fight a final boss at all to prove I am can beat the game when I already beat Big G and the MP.
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>>121565351
>I solo bosses. Other people just hold me back.

You're hardcore, Lucy. I'm not sure what everyone's problem could be.
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>>121567317
Their first souls game must have been DaS2. I don't mind helping others, but I prefer to solo my bosses, except of the Vicar. She is just fun to co-op.
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Saw cleaver or saw spear for fire?
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>>121568951
spear gets better scaling
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>>121568985
Spear it is then, thanks.
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>>121566573
>But I have already proven that I can.
Yep, sure showed us how good you are at chalices with your ability to beat Rom, right?
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>>121567768
Come on Lucy, this is getting far too meta at this point.
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>>121535359
>>121542113
>not killing the spiders

are you guys fucking retarded
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>>121569641
I was. The safest way to kill the spiders usually is to repeatedly bait Rom's explosion attacks as opposed to his downward meteors, and every time he does it kill a couple of spiders.

Do you just waste time dodging the meteors?
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>>121569792
>Do you just waste time dodging the meteors?
well yeah it's the safest way

I mean it makes the fight long as as shit but I'm a pussy
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>>121569841
Yeah I try to bait the explosions, I usually end up trying to dodge the meteors and cartwheeling into a spider
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>>121564687
50/50 is great for Ludwig's if you aren't too worried about keeping a low meta.
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>keep fighting the same guy in Mergo's Middle over and over
>when he's the red he gets 2 shotted by Wheel
>assume he has now left because I am not getting any fights

Feels bully, man.
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>>121570631
50/25 is good too.
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>>121571059
>when they try to lure to the area with all the braintrusts so they can kill you in the elevator
This always turns out horribly for the host.
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What's the difference between Blunderbuss and Ludwig's Rifle? I feel like LR has a little bit longer reload time but is exactly the same.
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Is there anything in the lore regarding those hound/crow hybrids?
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>>121571835
Ludwig's has longer range and can stagger enemies and some bosses like a motherfucker.
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>>121569139
>post deleted
Either mods are based or Lucifer is on damage control Phase 10
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>>121571905
This, I use ludwigs every playthrough unless i'm doing bloodtinge cancer.
You can stunlock every humanoid in the game if you combo between shots.
Keeper of the old lords is a joke with this thing
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Anyone have glyphs for GOOD sinister dungeons? Looking for boatloads of materials
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>>121571881
Someone post that Micolash corpse werewolf pic for him.
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>>121574002
>>121571881
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I did not know fly men existed in chalices
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>>121574391

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>>121574391
What the fuck

I've been doing chalices daily non stop since release because I really, really love doing them and they're fun and seen moles plenty of times, but I've never seen these gross fucks there

Makes me want to do more chalices
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>>121575370
There were snakeballs and those mud corpse things too
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>>121575589
got a glyph? Never seen snakeballs in chalices
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anyone up for some coop? gonna do witches of hemwick, then rom
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>>121576717
It's ejcskvy8, Sinister Isz
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let me get this straight

i need to create a lower loran root myself before i can join other peoples lower loran roots right?

and it wont cost me materials then am i correct?

i also cant buy the short ritual chalice even though i finished the first pthumerian dungeon or do i have to kill yharnam in the last one to buy it?

i just beat defiled watchdog but im not sure if i can handle cursed amygdala with my blades of mercy
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>>121576970
thanks
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Anyone about to do a chalice boss? I need some rocks
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>>121577397

Can rocks spawn from bosses in Defiled? I'm just about to go through that dungeon.
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>>121577865
As long as it's layer 5
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>>121578297

Oh, then I've quite a ways to go still. I'm currently fighting the Keeper.
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>>121578442
Good luck
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>>121574391
>>121575589

Yep. Fly men only appear in Isz chalices, while snakemen and corpses appear mostly in Hintertombs but can pop up anywhere. You can also find bonewagons in any dungeon, and they drop really good kin/beast hunter gems.
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>>121577031
Yes on making a lower loran root before you can join other lower loran roots, and other people's dungeons don't cost you ritual materials. If you want to join any CFR dungeons, you'll have to make one CFR dungeon of any type.

You CAN buy the short root ritual chalice from the insight messengers after clearing the first chalice dropped by BSB, or you can get it for free after clearing lower hintertombs.
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What exactly is a 'beast'? I mean what will be affected by attack vs beasts up/down gems? I ask because Amelias +12% against beats make it a good choice for triangle slots but does it affect the snakes in the forests? Or any enemy after the forest? Does only stuff with fur count as beast?
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Which root dungeons do i farm for 32+ percent blunt gems?
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>>121581553

Lower Loran Root

Have fun with Undead Hitbox
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>>121581445
Beast includes everything you find in Old Yharnam (beast patients of all types, full werewolves), crows, rats, pigs, yahargul legwolves, silverbeasts, beast-possessed soul, Loran beast mages, abhorrent beast, and all beast bosses. The serrated damage bonus on saw weapons (Cleaver normal mode, Saw both modes) and Threaded Cane (whip mode) is a different damage bonus, and only applies to giant beasts like the full werewolves in lower Old Yharnam, legwolves, silverbeasts, beast-possessed souls, loran mages, abhorrent, and boss beasts.

Unfortunately, the only beasts you'll find after Amelia are the legwolves in post-rom yahargul, silverbeasts in nightmare areas, and the beasts in Loran dungeons. Even worse, you can farm better anti-beast gems in post-rom Yahargul from the bone wagons.
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>>121582269
>Unfortunately, the only beasts you'll find after Amelia.....

I guess it's only fair, since holy dmg also affects only things in Cainhurst, isn't that right? So serrated dmg isn't really that "overpowered" in usage-wise.
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>First playthrough
>Haven't touched a From game before beyond getting to the Bell Gargoyles in DaS
>Friend who's played all the games says I'll rage quit at Blood Starved Beast
>Kill it on first try
>Die from slow poison 5 seconds later due to running out of antidotes

Fuck it, a victory is a victory
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>>121582448
Holy damage affects gargoyles, bloodlickers, and ghosts. A few holy-weak enemies also appear in pthumeru chalices like gargoyles and frenzy ghosts, and bloodlickers can appear in any chalice dungeon if you do lots of visceral attacks on strong enemies and leave the room for a while.
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>>121582269
Ok thank you very much. Maybe we should add that to the pastebin.
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>>121582786
Eh. The question doesn't turn up often enough just yet to make it necessary. If it starts being asked at least once per thread, that's when a guide is needed.
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>wanted to make an assassin/enforcer build for a long time
>mfw DLC will add a secret society covenant, more edgelord weapons like burial cleaver, bow for sniping with monocle and delayed bombs
Based.
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>>121561926
No, but holy shit I feel retarded for not thinking of that
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Overleveling is pretty fun
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>>121583575
>only four digit viscerals
kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFUhIf5GYQQ
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Does weapon affect in visceral dmg or is it purely based on your skill?
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Are bloodtinge builds viable at all in this game?

Just finished and want to do another run.
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>>121584168
They are very viable and very fun
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>>121584258
What stats and gun do you recommend?
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>>121583912
Visceral damage is not affected by your weapon's own damage. But visceral attacks are treated as a physical damage attack done by the weapon, so anything that boosts a weapon's physical damage will also boost a visceral attack. Tempering gems, nourishing gems, Beast/Kin hunter gems (against beasts or kin), fool's/poorman's gems (when full hp/near death, respectively), beasthood (the higher the meter, the more damage), and of course clawmark runes.

>>121584168
Yes. Pick up the Repeating Pistol as soon as possible, then hit Hemwick Charnel Lane for Bone Marrow Ash. Upgrade your guns first and treat them as your main weapon against large foes, and you'll speed through the game with little trouble at all. Remember that blood counts as physical damage, so tempering gems will boost it (tempering droplets, in the case of guns).
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>>121584360
Guns to use are repeater and evelyn, stats are 50 bloodtinge, 40-50 vitality, 10-20 skill, and either 14 skill for minimum chikage equip or 25 skill if you want your viscerals to be stronger and your reiterpallasch, rifle spear, or chikage (untricked) to deal more damage.
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>>121584376
>bloodtinge builds
Also, equip the formless oedon, oedon writhe, and blood rapture runes, then make blood bullets and abuse visceral attacks for virtually infinite bullets.

Send the little girl to iosefka's clinic for an extra formless oedon rune, send adella to the clinic for the oedon writhe +1 rune, and kill imposter iosefka before killing rom for the oedon writhe +2 rune. Keep arianna in the cathedral ward so you can still get a third umbilical cord.
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>>121584360
I run 50 BLT 25 SKL. I started noble scion and got SKL up to 25 before I touched BLT, but on this character I didn't touch VIT until I had completely upgraded the damage stats so it's up to you whether you're comfortable doing that.

Logarius is not fun with base vit if you plan on getting the chikage early. If you do, stock up on all consumables inc bone marrow ash, then backup your saves in front of the fog gate. Farming vials/bullets is just a waste of time.
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What level do you guys do defiled chalice and D5 dungeons at? I'm barely getting any co op action at 114, and when I do it takes forever. Feel like I might be too high or low for the sweet spot.
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Can someone help me with defiled Amy? Pass is bhg57uy

Oath runes are off
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>>121585487
Level 90-100, to summon 60-140. Why'd you bother going over 100?
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>>121585783
Plenty of people do them at level 120/125. You even see a lot of casual players doing them at level 150 and above. Hell, I have seen people doing them at level 300+.
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>>121586128
You don't know anything about chalice dungeons, stop talking shit.
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>>121585783
>looking on fextralife wiki page
>comments sections of a boss
>fuck this boss is hard, anyone want to coop him with me? PSN xxxxx I'm sl 247

??? How can people be so awful
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>>121586214
I don't need to have done them to see what people are writing about them, see what level people are requesting help at, or to watch videos of people doing them.

See:

>>121586324
>>fuck this boss is hard, anyone want to coop him with me? PSN xxxxx I'm sl 247
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>>121586390
You haven't seen players in dungeons at level 300+, you've seen players talking about being in dungeons at level 300+. There's a distinct difference, and if you can't see it then you need to stop posting already.
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>>121586513
I have no reason to assume they are lying. Why are you so paranoid?
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>>121585635
Glyph and level?
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>>121585783
Re rolled to try bloodtinge build aND decided to put more points into skill for no reason. I have a couple save files backed up, one of which is 90 so I guess I'll go back to that. The for the info.

And holy fuck this new catch is garbage.
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>>121586610
It isn't paranoia Mr. "someone's been following me from thread to thread and stirring up anti-lucy sentiments", it's a matter of not being deceitful. If you don't say where you found a piece of information, you're implying it's something you yourself have experience in.

You know, if you had ever once bothered to get the experience you always pretend to have, people might not have ever come to the conclusion that you're a worthless sack of shit. You might be living the dream you always pretend to have.
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Tfw getting outplayed hard
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>>121586801
When I say the Earth is round do you assume I have been to space and seen it for myself?

>>121586813
>got literally and figuratively stomped at the same time
Beautiful.
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>>121586813
Yeah I can relate to that.

>getting oneshot by a single slap
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>>121586950
>When I say the Earth is round do you assume I have been to space and seen it for myself?
Lucy confirmed for bad at logic. Why do you try?
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>>121586653
Glyph sa27i76s

BL 134
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>>121587035
>134
Holy hell anon
Omw with my 10vit arc build. Wanna see if it's faster than kirk+pellets.
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>>121587174
With 99 arcane, ACB will kill defiled Amy in less than a minute.
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>>121587245
I REALLY need to do a 99 ARC character.
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>>121587035
Either it's not opened or you spelled it wrong.
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>>121587245
I feel like ExGloves was faster to Amy and Bri though.
Kirk+pellets I've killed defiled Amy in right over a minute.

I'll try ACB again though.

>>121587305
Mine build is >>121529789

>>121587035
>>121587338
Hello?
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>>121587714
>Kirk+pellets I've killed defiled Amy in right over a minute.
And that was helping someone, so Amy had 50% more hp.
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>>121587714
Gloves have a more efficient bullet to damage ratio, but ACB at max arcane will do more damage faster. Make blood bullets, ACB, blood bullets, ACB blood bullets, ACB, vial, vial, blood bullets, ACB, blood bullets, ACB, deadAmy.
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wew fight club tonight then was it lads
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>>121587939
NOPE CALLED OFF SOUNDS BORING AND NO HEALING AND 2HARD2GET GEMS
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>>121587939
Looks like I'm going to be able to participate this time
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>>121588074
Don't be like that, anon. Most people there only have brain gems.
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>>121588160
Sweet, prepare your heinyhole
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>>121588286
Prepare for my 2.5MB connection then
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>>121587035
>>121587338
>over 20 minutes with no response
Guess you didn't really want help.
Gonna do some irl stuff then.
kthxbai
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>3 ritual blood (5) in upper ward
>pearl slugs in burgertown, lecture hall, and upper ward
>red jelly in lecture hall

>flowerpede in burgertown doesn't drop arcane haze

Fuck. It would've been cool if you could make the Isz chalice without needing to do any of the other dungeons.
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>>121587020
Did you really just question my logic with an ad hominem fallacy? Oh the irony.

>>121588208
You should have put that in the rules, brain gems only. You probably could have gotten more participants. People get tired of running the same character every time, but farming Chalice gems over and over again is far too tedious.
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>>121587714
>>121588559
sa27i76s is the glyph.
BL 134
No oath
Pass bhg57uy

Sorry I'd given Amy two more tries and hadn't check the general in between.
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>>121588686
>farming Chalice gems over and over again is far too tedious.
You must know from experience.
Good thing I read this post so I could be misinformed and never have an experience for myself!
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>>121588686
>muh fallacies
>muh failing to comprehend the point

>You should have put that in the rules
No, because I'm not the one who made the rules, it isn't enforceable, it fucks over arcane builds, and gem restrictions are only a problem if you're a shitter who calls himself lucifer and never got the good chalices. Get back in Rom's rape pit and stop posting here.
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>>121582452
>rage quit at Blood Starved Beast
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>>121588959
It's the boss that people who always relied on shields and taking distance from the boss gets fucked on. Basically because you have to constantly hug his ass
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>>121588767
Open
Your
Chalice
Nerd
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>>121589106
Which means, ironically, that the people who never played demon's/dark souls and started on bloodborne don't have much trouble against him.
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>>121588953
True on every point, plus we all voted for what FC is now.
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>>121589256
Straw polls are easily manipulated and faked.
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>>121589115
I opened it. Sorry for being incompetent
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>>121589421
And yet, you're somehow the only one complaining about the rules. Go figure.
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>>121589550
It's cool, brotha.
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>>121589106
>Basically because you have to constantly hug his ass

That's a good idea anon, but let's take it a step further. What if we removed all of the weapons and you had to defeat your enemies by hugging them?

That way no one has to die, not even the Oedon Chapel Dweller.
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Is anyone willing to help me with defiled hotdog layer 3? I almost kill him most of the time, until he uses his jump attack.

Password: bbg123
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>>121590208
Why does the chapel dweller ever have to die? He just wants to save as many as he can and make friends. He has never done anything wrong
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>>121590237
Isn't hotdog layer 2 post glyph and message me on PSN so we cant talk there MangGreg
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>>121590468
Gem hunting and I suck at defiled hotdog
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>>121590457
For that sweet Formless Oedon +3 rune, of course.
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Yooo... minor new info incoming.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/games/bloodborne-ps4/bloodborne-the-old-hunters/
>Welcome to a terrifying world of Hunters past, rife with new and deadly dangers, horrific beasts and great rewards for those brave – and skilled – enough to earn them.

>Uncover the forgotten tales of these brutal Hunters, trusted with guarding the terrible secrets of Byrgenwerth – and keeping the dreadful truth of Blood Healing hidden.

>Venture into three new and perilous hunting grounds; The Hunter's Nightmare, Research Hall and the Fishing Hamlet. Add new outfits and deadly weapons to your inventory and master unholy magic to face the horrors that lurk in these hunting grounds… and try to harness your transformation into the Beast.
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>>121590976

>Research Hall
>yfw Frankenstein is a boss
>he's Castlevania-style with arm cannons and everything

Can't wait.
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>>121590976
>Research Hall
I guess they mean Astral Clocktower when they say this?
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For Yurk:
https://youtu.be/LG2dc7krsEE
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>>121590457
I purged him for being an ugly abomination, not before throwing that stupid pebble in his face.
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>>121591580
A research hall and a clocktower are two very different things, so probably not. I'd imagine the Research Hall is somehow related to Byrgenwerth, like the Lecture Hall.
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>>121590976
Fishing Hamlet will be GOAT. Calling it. looked atmospheric as fuck in the trailer.
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>>121591751
Considering the actual page for the game already mentions the clocktower by name, either there are more than 3 new areas or someone made a mistake somewhere. I'm hoping for the former, obviously.
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>>121590976
Cool, we'll go fishing. Too bad there isn't a fishing rod trick weapon.
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>>121592293
Can you imagine trying to fish up a beast-inflicted marlin? Shit would be hardcore.
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>>121591662
That's crazy
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>>121590976
Hunters will have 10 new, transformable weapons to wield.

So what are the 10 transformable weapons that we know of (I assume this number doesn't count left hand stuff like the new shield, Galasha's Fist or Yamamura's rifle)

1. Simon's Bowblade
2. Beast Cleaver
3. Saw Mill
4. Holy Moonlight Sword
5. Burial Cleaver
6. Fire Hammer
7. Spear-Warpick
8. Weapon wielded by the guy sitting in a chair, from the Old Hunters cover
9. ?
10. ?
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>>121592293
https://youtu.be/mZ7DOpWNIJs
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Abhorrent Beast was a fucking mistake.
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>>121592961
From representatives at the TGS said there'd be 10 new weapons, and that the count included both left and right hand weapons. Miyazaki himself said the number was closer to 10-15. If there are 10 right hand weapons and 3-5 left hand weapons, that would be closer to what we've seen so far.

You have all the known right hand weapons so far, barring retard-level speculation like "new beast claw" or "samurai sword".

>>121593278
I think he's fun, personally. Makes farming for bolt gems really spicy.
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>>121593278
When in doubt, use poison
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>>121592961
Galashas fist
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>>121593673
That's a left hand weapon, anon. He's talking about right hand weapons.
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>>121593673
Like I mentioned, that's a left hand non-transformable weapon.
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>>121593724
it's still a weapon faggot
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>>121593673
>Engine-block brass knuckles

Awww yisss
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Heads up, there are people in the FC already. Fought a couple of edgelords too.

NOW WE CAN HUNT AND KILL TO OUR HEART'S CONTENT
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>>121593796
Technically, it's a melee-range parrying tool that doesn't cost bullets. It doesn't even have a moveset, just the one attack because L2.

>>121593852
Super old information, my friend. There's a thread on the good wiki here: http://forums.demonssouls.info/viewtopic.php?f=98&t=20822
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>>121592961
Hopefully some kind of proper fist weapon
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>>121593995
>not fighting enemies with your bear hands
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>>121593981
>Super old information, my friend

I tend to not pay much attention to the press stuff at all. I like going into things fairly blind.
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>>121594540
Can't blame you for that.
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>>121588959
I seriously cannot fathom how people can have trouble with BSB after beating Gascoigne. He's much more aggressive, has a much wider variety of moves, and tracks like a motherfucker.
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>>121594962
Gascan is completely shut down by two phantoms, and that's what everyone seems to have.
BSB, not so much.
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>>121593278
One of thr best bosses in the game was a mistake?
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>>121594962
Because there isn't a music box for gascoigne, and most players don't have the presence of mind to change their clothes for poison resistance.
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>>121590208
I... never realized how much he looks like the Demon of Song.
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Popped into eyy for a minute and there's already people there. Time for cleansing
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>>121595545
shit really? That's early. Better eat and join you guys, I'm high as fuck and down for a marathon
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FUCK FUCK FUCK

can i only join f/r/c dungeons if i have created a frc dungeon of the same type myself? i thought creating a standard lower loran root would be enough to join a foetid one per glyph

please tell me this isnt true
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>>121597815
Sorta? If you make a fetid depth 5 dungeon you can join ANY fetid dungeon if you have the respective root chalice
If you want to join any frc you'll have to have made an frc of your own
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>>121597815
Yeah you gotta create em first
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>>121597995
>>121598036

I beat the regular versions of the Depth 5 dungeons (Isz, Lower Loran, Ihyll.) on by BLT character and was able to access FRC chalices through chalice search. I'm pretty sure you don't actually have to make an FRC dungeon on your own. I'll re-check when I get home later on today, I guess. Don't wanna spread misinformation.
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>>121593981
Are you sure it parries? Source?
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>>121598320
You didn't. You can access riteless root dungeons, through, so that's what you joined.
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>>121598480
We don't actually know that it parries. It's an assumption. Would seem fairly useless otherwise though
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>>121598480
There's no video of it, because the demo players were all unspeakably bad. However, the item description (fan translation) uses the term stagger in the same way guns do, and Fromsoft representatives at the TGS said it's used to interrupt enemy attacks for viscerals without spending bullets.
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>>121598661

Nah, I was able to join that one glyph that everyone uses for phys gems: pwrmfuggu or whatever.
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>the indescribable sound is broadcast with the caster's own vocal cords, which begs the question, what terrible things lurk deep within the frames of men?

Ha, I get it. It's a skeleton joke.
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Wait people are fighting right now? Really?
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>>121599395
>beast roar
>sounds like a cough
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>>121599876
If your coughs sound like that, you really need to see a doctor.
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>>121599961
Mine sound normal but theres shit and blood in them
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>>121600040

Go back to Kanto, Grimer.
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>>121599765

Ring-ring, motherfucker.
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will the expansion introduce new gestures?
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>>121600691
There's already one confirmed new gesture with the league cane.
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>>121593852
>reaction photo is a mignola drawing

MY NIGGA
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>>121600691
We need another No Way and Righty-Ho
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>>121600851
I love Mignola's style to death. It looks simple since its mostly negative space, but the understanding of lighting necessary to pull it off the way he does is virtuosic.

The lighting in Dark Souls always reminded me of his work and I always wanted a Souls game with heavy Mignola influences. Bloodborne's come a lot closer than I thought we'd ever actually have, though the lighting isn't as stark as DaS's.
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>>121601171

Fuck that, we need a shrug, a look skyward and a point down for maximum edgyness.
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>>121601171
I want the slit throat gesture that was cut
or a laugh
something edgier than brush off dust
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If I have 30 strength and 50 arcane what kind of gems should I use on my Ludwigs?
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>>121601478
The ones that turn it into an arc wheel
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>>121601478
You should use Wheel
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>>121601478
Why would you upgrade both when you're using Ludwig's? Pick up either Logarius' Wheel or Tonitrus, then use their trick mode.
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Is reiter worth upgrading on a 25 skl 50 blt build?

Will an offhand 5 hp pulsing significantly help with chikage's hp drain?
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>>121601171
shrug and apologise/grovel are sorely missing
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>>121601478
The "delete the build and restart" ones.
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>>121601701
yes
no
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>>121601701
Yes.

No.
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>>121601656
I already have a +10 Tonitrus and +8 Wheel

I just love greatswords
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>>121601579
>>121601582
WHEELmind
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>>121601869
Upgrade that wheel to +10 to see the true power of str/arc.

If 50 arc, use arcane gems on the sword. Obviously.

On a side note, 25 is the first softcap, not 30.
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can someone explain the differences between going 50str/25skill or 25str/50skill for a Ludwig's Holy Blade build?

they both scale the same when you've upgraded the weapon fully right? what other weapon options do i leave open with the two different paths?
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is there anyone competent in bloodborne, anyone that isn't a garbage ass nigga that can't play dark souls 1?

i tried it again after a long break and just shitcanned everybody i came across
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>>121602468
Yes, str and skl scaling on LHB are equal at +10.

50str/25skl gives access to Kirkhammer, Hunter's Axe, Cannon, Wheel, Saw Cleaver, Beast Claw, and Stake Driver. 25str/50skl gives access to Burial Blade, Blade of Mercy, Threaded Cane, Reiterpallasch, and Rifle Spear, in addition to stronger visceral attacks.
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>>121602690
>reiterpallasch and rifle spear
With 10 bloodtinge, I mean. Skill actually kind of lacks much in the way of weapon selection.
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>>121594962

BSB has what is essentially an one-shot, can poison people, and isn't made trivial by phantoms.

I used to hate BSB, but I don't have as much issue with it now. That being said, I got Gascoigne first try.
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>>121602690

cool, thanks for the extensive reply, do you have any recommendations as to which path is more fun?

at first glance Blade of Mercy and Threaded Cane seem like fun weapons and quite different from LHB, i'm pretty new to the game, haven't even started a NG+ yet, any experienced recommendations much appreciated
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So yeah, thanks for that last fight meme-king hopefully my alarm will go off and I join you all later
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>>121603807
It really depends on your playstyle. Skill requires more technical play, strength is good for bashing stuff into submission.
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>>121603920
I actually disagree with this, skill often boils down to R1 mashing, with strength you at least have to anticipate and time your moves
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>>121603920
>>121604296

so if i go 25str 50skill i can still bash shit in with my LHB then flurry around like a fairy with Threaded Cane and Blades of Mercy? that sounds like the best of both worlds, think i'll go that route for my first character
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>>121604296
I agree with this. Skill weapons tend to be fast enough that R1 mashing is effective. Strength weapons tend to be slower, so you need to be better with spacing and timing of attacks.
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Was that an arcane hammer, Messy? I like it.
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>>121603807
Do you like slamming foes with 1000+ damage r2s, or parrying and ripping out their insides for 1000+ more?
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>>121603813
Alright, np
I'll be switching to burial meme now because my 450 AR stronkwheel sucks
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>>121604296
Dunno, my first PT was with BoM and in some parts it was hard as fuck

when I used LHB I could pretty much just ram R1 stunning everything
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>>121605296

i'm quite fond of both, which is why i decided to have LHB as one of my main weapons, if it scales the same with str and skill at +10 i can get the 1k+ dmg r2's as well as the 1k+ dmg viscerals right?
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>>121606071
Yeah. 1k viscerals are actually pretty low in PvE, I get those on my 25 skill build without clawmarks.
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>Saw Spear dash r1 chunks 60% of my health at 50 VIT

Yeah, fuck that. May just blank out at the sight of the thing from here on out.
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>>121606971
Was it an elemental saw spear? If it's arcane, that might explain it.
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why do i rarely see people using the burial blade in pvp?

is it shit?
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>>121607253
Probably meme master's quality spear
You can't hit AR that high on an arc spear
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>>121606971
>60%
At its absolute best it'll do 580ish with counter damage
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i like my newly created characters face, can i get shit done without using helmet/hat or is the stat loss too big for a new char?
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>>121607552
clothing stats barely matter, you'll be fine
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>>121607552
Knight's wig isn't terrible in terms of defenses
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ok im out til 6pm EST in a bit guis
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>>121607552
just use the crown sempai (family)
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>>121607502
Worth mentioning that I was a phantom at the time, but considering it comes out faster than even the Wheel's dash r1 that AR is pretty silly.

>>121607318
>meme master

who?
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>>121608057
50 vit with 2 HP runes gives you 1328 HP
You're saying my dash R1 can do 780ish damage?
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pc release when
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How hyped are we for the DLC?
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>>121608412
I don't use HP runes, and I was a phantom.

It did a lot of damage.
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Guys, I always end up with the fed katana or the whip.
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>>121608601
>I don't use HP runes
>why do things hurt?
There are bigger things to worry about than meme spears
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>>121607312

It's a very good weapon, just not popular.
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Could someone post the 2 ez defiled screencap?
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>>121608894
>he thinks HP runes are mandatory

Yeah man I really need that extra 15%.
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>>121501771

2 hours and 30 minutes

>>121501771


Reminder

>>121501771
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>>121609662
>I don't need health
>by the way please ignore my earlier post about dying so easily
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How does one go about removing the life from the bloodletting beast?

I don't think I'm gonna beat this thing and my chalice dungeon got removed from the server so I can't summon.
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>>121611142
Lock on and walk to the side.

Seriously, just avoid dodging backwards and you should be fine.
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>>121611142
Start out in front of him, and when he starts up a combo dodge to one of his legs and start spanking it. Repeat until dead.
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>>121611142
fire
serrated
backstab on his single swipe
parry his multihit combos
stay on his ass and score free hits because his tracking is ass
avoid the grab by constantly moving
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>>121611353
Stop talking about things you don't do, retard.

>>121611142
Ignore him, it's possible to safely dodge backwards if you time it correctly. Obviously, you don't want to walk around when he's using one of the large sweeping attacks that'll hit you from his sides.
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>>121611543
If you walk around him in a wide circle, you will avoid 99% of all his attacks. Dodging backwards will just get you caught by most of his most damaging attacks, such as the grab attack.
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>>121611809
You mean the grab attack that only hits people who are standing between his legs?

You're clearly just making shit up at this point. Well, you were clearly making shit up the entire time, but that right there was just ridiculous.
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>>121611142

Use fire or serrated weapons and constantly stay close to him. His range is ridiculous, but he has bad tracking so sticking close to him is your best bet. Make sure to hug his right leg. He has this move where he stomps and hops back, which is usually done with his left foot. When he whiffs his combos, whack his legs, but don't get greedy because he'll swipe at you from under him. Also, if you're fighting the regular bloodletting beast and not the headless one, never stay between his legs. He likes to grab you when you do that and you will most likely be OHKO'd if you get caught by the attack.
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Kirk so fun
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I can't seem to beat Rom

any help?
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>>121611984
My bad, for some reason I misread that as BSB instead of BLB.
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>>121610163
Given the kind of damage I was talking about, runes would make a marginal difference at best. Not giving up other slots for that and it certainly doesn't make the Saw Spear any more engaging to fight against.
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>>121612401
>Fiery kirkhammer duel

I like your style.
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>One Reborn
There are bloodstains for this.. boss.
How?
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>>121611809
aren't you too busy being stick at depth 3 rom?
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>>121613050
Probably just people either getting taken offguard or getting cocky. If his liquid shit gets you its pretty wicked, I can see people dying to that the first time.
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>>121612852
Well obviously. The real problem was when you didn't finish reading his post and tried to say something about a chalice dungeon.
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>>121613050
Arcane builds finally running into an enemy that resists gloves and ACB.
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>>121613050
>people are dying on Gehrman

literally how? killed him on my first try
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>>121612887
MATHEMATICALLY wrong
if it does 60% of your health bar each time, 2 hits will take 120% and thus, kill you

having 25% from runes will turn that 2HKO into a 3HKO

a 50% increase in survivability is anything but marginal
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Aight i finally beat the bloodletting beast.
I had him down to 1/4 health and he got me with the between the leg grab and almost murdered me, then did the reaching slam as soon as I healed and took me down to like 0 health. I decided to gung ho it and just booked it towards him and took down his final chunk of health with a charged fire Ludwigs for like 1200hp. It was some pretty intense shit.

Anyways now that i have the defiled chalice where can I find an uncanny Ludwigs?
I a bunch of triangle arcane gems I can jazz it up with.
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>>121614485
>>>/blogspot/
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>>121614485
rm9skkef
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>>121614008
The highest tier clockwise is 15%. I COULD get 30% for all three, but at best I'd be willing to give up a single slot for that 15%. 15% would be pretty marginal.

Again, that wouldn't make the Spear any more fun or engaging to fight against. Thanks for the math help tho bruh ur pretty swell
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>>121614672
stack tier 2 and 3 hp runes you fucking dunce
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>>121614597
>Just asked for help with the boss
>Came back and talked about the fight
>In a thread for the game
>Where you're suppose to discuss things you do in the game
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>>121613538
a tonitrus absolutely destroys his shit though
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>>121614821
I like my other runes at the moment, but I'll give that a shot on another character


Now how does one get mileage out of Rosmarinus?
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>>121614947
and anybody can respond with whatever they want like i did. wow what a concept
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>>121615153
Which is true, and there's a very nice waning bolt gem at the start of the level to make it easier. But the advice everyone gives for first time arcane builds is to use an arcane threaded cane and a fire saw spear, and iirc TOR resists fire as much as he resists arcane. He's one of those bosses that can be pretty brutal when the fight goes on long enough for him to pull out his really dangerous moves.

I like killing him with tiny tonitrus, but the general opinion of TT is that it sucks and isn't worth using. So, you know.
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>>121615537
fextra says he resists physical more than fire
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>there's only one bloodtinge weapon and one new gun in the DLC
>it's yet another hybrid skill/bloodtinge weapon to go with the three others we already have
>however, the pre-DLC patch makes it so that putting an elemental gem in a split physical/blood weapon will convert the physical damage to elemental and leave the blood damage unchanged

Would that work? Honestly, I just want to make an arcane/bloodtinge character.
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>>121616042
Fextra says a lot of things.
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>>121608582

Very. New weapons, new areas, new enemies...it's going to be exciting.
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>>121615537
The only advice I've seen people give for arc builds is to use wheel/tonitrus or exclusively use tonitrus until you have the gems you need for elemental damage on a weapon that isn't split naturally, e.g cane.

I farmed some 16% fire radials from lower pthumeru just yesterday for an arc build and actually had a chance to quickly test damage between the two when tonitrus only had physical gems.

At 12/~42 str/arc, a +7/8 fire cane with the above gems will do about equal damage compared to a +6 tonitrus with garbage gems on that boss specifically, but the tonitrus also consumes more stamina. Its buff is so strong that it must give it A arc scaling.


I've never heard anyone recommend not using tonitrus mostly because of gem issues.
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>>121613050
Because of tanks like me who didn't kill the casters.
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>>121616748
actually, that could have been the point when I had 13.5% fire radials

I can't remember which. Regardless, the point is that tonitrus is very strong and can carry an arc build very far (even through depth 5 FRC) with base str.
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>>121616261
it's taken straight from the guidebook but I suppose that isn't good enough for you either
guess I'll have to take your anecdotal evidence to heart
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>>121616748
>>121617239
That's weird, the advice here is usually fire saw (waning gem available after BSB) and arcane cane (triangle available in forest). Neither of these weapons require stat investment, whereas the tonitrus needs 12 strength, has a meager 100 durability, and its arc-scaling buff only lasts 7 seconds, while the wheel is only available after clearing out Cainhurst and killing Logarius, then raising strength to freaking 20 at which point you're more of a hybrid than an arcane build.

Besides, fire saw murders the shit out of beasts and arcane cane is surprisingly decent at cainhurst. Loran, at least, is super easy with a fire saw.

>>121617320
The guide says a whole lot of blatantly false shit, as well. Hell, I made a thread about it in the Fextra forum, even.

But yeah, it's been a while since I tried using fire against TOR, mostly because bolt kills him so much faster and uses the same stat. My apologies if I came off as presumptuous.
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How come nobody talks about the BoM as pvp weapons nowadays? Decent AR, great moveset in both forms, fast as fuck, and they even do decent damage with flat arcane gems. Most tend to either just dash r1 spam or r1 spam, but knowing the full moveset intimately is fucking monstrous
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>>121617779
Two whole points of investment from a cruel fate start, durability doesn't matter when it's really just a weapon to carry you until you get the gems you need for a better weapon, and you can just press L1 mid combo after every 3-4 swings. Besides, 12 str exclusively for tonitrus isn't a problem for someone that wants to try arcane for their first time and generally people also want to go 16/12 for arc LHB.

Your damage with any other kind of weapon (I was using a cane with %10 arcane triangle from the woods, I believe) is pitiful unless you know exactly where to farm pre-depth 5 chalices. On top of that, I don't even think you can get just any elemental radials from pthumeru, so you're basically stuck with damage from a single gem unless you go fire (either waning or triangle).

Whatever other people are recommending, I probably wouldn't bother with. Tonitrus is just the easiest, most pain free way to go.
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>>121619116
The reason why fire saw is a popular recommendation is because the fire radials are easy to pick up in depth 1 pthumeru, the waning gem is available immediately after BSB and right when you gain access to twin shards to unlock the third gem slot, and fire remains a consistently useful damage type against everything in the game from that point onward. Saw spear with even three low-grade fire gems is going to outdamage tonitrus with one decent bolt waning, even with the buff. Not to mention, oil urns doubling the damage of stuff like your charged R2's.

Personally, I think the flamesprayer is a better carry than the tonitrus when you're still scrounging around for good elemental gems, especially when you're shoveling BMA into it for bosses.
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Anyone would be so kind to help me with Logarius?
level 67, pass bbg. ringing at castle entrance lamp
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>>121617965
>BoM as pvp weapon
lmao
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>>121619940
but tonitrus can still do amazing damage with just shitty physical gems (did you forget about those?) and, as I said, easily carry you through FRC depth 5.

I just proved to you it can compete with a weapon with 16% raidals and a nourishing using just some phys%. The difference? No farming or knowledge of gem locations required.

It's just easy.
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>>121620462
>700k souls
>5 billion hp
>likely got chalice gems for fire saw spear
>acting like tough shit for beating a random invader
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>>121620462
>being walled by shields with BoM
r1 spamming was already called out as shit
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>>121620462
>Completed CDs vs. Story mode

Pathetic.
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>>121620764
40-50 vit with 10-15% hp runes is standard, family

I think the very obvious point of the webm was the fact that all of its attacks can easily be deflected and countered by a wooden shield.
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The fuck is the eldritch truth
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>>121620764
If it wasn't completely obvious, shield completely destroys BoM as entirety of its moveset can safely be blocked and basic R1 are just bouncing off the shield.
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>>121621172
but i don't wanna waste points in bt just to use the rapier
and the bb sucks ass
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>>121621172
is it worth using the wooden shield with end that low?
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>>121621528
Only against weapons with weak poisebreak. Chikage, bom, reiter, yeah, shield can block them well on any stamina.
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>>121620462
Shield also negates the cane and the reiter, the latter of which most tend to agree is top tier. Not everyone carries a shield in their offhand, also the BoMs R2s, L2 and jump attack all bypass the shield pretty easily
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>>121622043
R2 only eats like a third of stamina on hit and you need to be clinically retarded to get ever hit by either L2, R2 or jumping attack anyway, the only viable bom attacks are dash poke and running R2 in tricked mode.
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>>121621807
I want to make the safest, most defensive and annoying thing to fight in the world.

What would you suggest?

50/25 skl/blt with ~20 end+%20 runes, rifle spear, reiter, shield and evelyn was what I was thinking.
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>>121595265
L O R E

>tfw Semon of Dong was one of the few highpoints of vanilla DaS2
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>>121621807
Can it block the wheel/hammer?
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>>121620646
Sure, it can do all kinds of amazing things with physical gems. The problem is its physical damage is still lower than the saw spear's pre-elemental, except the spear can be buffed with fire/bolt paper until you find elemental gems and benefits from 20% bonus damage against giant beasts, whereas tonitrus's buff scaling is entirely dependent on the quality of gems and your arcane stat.

It's not hard at all to get all the gems you need for a fire saw. They literally all become available right after killing Blood-Starved Beast, along with the twin blood stone shards you need to upgrade it to +6. Make the chalice you just got for two fire radials, pick up the fire waning in cathedral ward, and you're already done. And again, a full fire saw will do more damage than a tonitrus, not to mention is faster, has a better moveset, and doesn't require you to invest in stats the person may not actually want to use. What if they don't want to use LHB?

No, I'm not saying tonitrus isn't an option for an arcane playthrough. I'm saying fire saw spear and flamesprayer are a much better option, and don't suffer from terrible durability or needing to refresh a buff every 7 seconds if you want it to do good damage. Say what you will about that, it's still something other weapons don't have to do.
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>>121622557
it can barely block a saw cleaver
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>>121622286
You don't need bloodtinge aside from base requirements if you want to primary use reiter.
25STR/50SKL/10BLT is the best possible reiter/rifle spear setup.
>>121622557
Nope from what i remember, not on 12-15 END i'm using it at least, maybe it's possible on 40. It's impossible to block burial blade already.
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Which has higher SKL scaling, threaded cane or blade of mercy? I just dunked Eileen and was wondering if blade of mercy was a suitable replacement for a SKL/BLT build
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>>121622554
The zone before him was ridiculous.
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>>121621121
Ebrietas, obviously.
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>>121622816
>You don't need bloodtinge aside from base requirements if you want to primary use reiter.

You don't need it, but it's extra damage and would compliment safe ranged gun spam with an evelyn/repeater.
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>>121622235
Are you retarded? The tricked running r2 is garbage, one of the most easily parried moves in the game. I'm not convinced you've used the weapon more than like twice. Its L2, R2s and jumping attacks are as fast as most strength weapons' r1s. Any competent player would properly mixup these moves with their r1s and to say that you'd never, under any circumstances be hit by them is silly.
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Why do I keep hearing someone Roaring in chalice dungeons?
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>>121622752
We're just going to keep arguing in circles so I'm just going to have to disagree.

I've tried a cane with good early fire radials and I still think the tonitrus is much easier.
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>>121622983
>>121621121

Do either of you even into Lovecraft?

It's basically the existence of the Great Ones and humanity's insignificance in the face of such a realization, to put it simply.
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>>121501771

30 minutes

>>121501771
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>>121591319
>fishing hamlet
>yfw it's innsmouth
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>>121622998
>but it's extra damage
Extra, what, 20 AR for 15 more levels?
Not worth it.
Reiter has 310 BLT AR on 10 BLT and like 400 on fucking 50 BLT, completely irrelevant.
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>>121622832
http://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne

>>121623234
Which is perfectly fine, there's a reason why the game has 15 different weapons and not only one.

>>121622998
Using a reiter to gun spam alongside an evelyn would be redundant, not complementary. And its blood scaling is practically nonexistent.
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>>121622894
pre-patch amana was the only challenging point in the game <):
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>>121623003
>The tricked running r2 is garbage
It's one of the few BoM attacks suited for fighting coopers and the only useful unlocked attack of the weapon.
>mixup
>bb
O i'm laffin.
Are you one of those guys who spins around in DS2 and calls it mind games?
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I'm currently trying to make a build focused on skill and bloodtinge for my playthrough and for co-oping others through the main game! I'm reading most places say a soft cap of 25 for BT and Skll, 30 VIT and 40 END. Is it still worth it to try and push BT/Skill to 50, or are the diminishing returns too great? I want to do reiterpallasch/evelyn when I finish cainhurst again. (I don't PVP! I just co-op, so I'm not one of those L2/R2 spamming fucks).
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>>121623134
Because whenever a player ghost uses the roar emote, it carries the sound with it for some weird reason.

>>121623284
That it is. But the game uses the term "the eldritch truth" in the context of the left-behind Great One Byrgenwerth dug up from the labyrinth.

But I like how Provost Willem went the complete opposite direction of where people usually go after that realization. "Hey, these guys are so much smarter than us we can't even comprehend it. Let's fix that with science".
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>>121497914

This is why I dont join the group. You guys are assholes.
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>>121623603

>PvP spinning

When this caught on, I quit that game altogether. I couldn't take the bullshit anymore. I suffered through buffed MLGS, magic spam, arena healing, monscim insta-parrying-- all that shit --but spinning to induce lag was the last straw.

God, it makes me mad just thinking about it.
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>>121623680
>40 end
which places?

stick with base or 15 end
go to 40-50 vit, then 25 skill and 50 BT

>>121623932
lol
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>>121623603
>Are you one of those guys who spins around in DS2 and calls it mind games?

?
m80 you're evidently a fucking mouthbreather so I'll cease this dialogue. Cheers
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>>121623680
25 is the first peak
50 is the second

you either want 25/50 skl/blt katana or 50/25 if you've already invested in blt.

bring vit to at least 40, 50 is best
end should be less than 20
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>>121620764

>700k souls

That is not a lot. You dont do chalices? Millions of echoes in short time.
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>>121623363
To be honest Bloodborne was doing actual cosmic horror so well I was hoping we could avoid the usual fishmen that everyone associates with Lovecraftian stuff.

Just because Dagon liked to turn people into fish in exchange for gold doesn't mean that's the usual eldritch shtick. I know you weren't saying it was, just venting.
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>>121623680
Oh my dear Oedon, what filthy and scrubby sources have you been reading.

You don't need 40 endurance. Heck, you don't even need 20 endurance. Start out with 15 and see if that's enough to kill shit without getting hit.

30 vitality is good, that's about where you should be by Mensis. Remember that being summoned reduces your hp by 1/3rd, so having extra vitality is nice. 50 vit gives you 1,000 hp when summoned.

Weapon scaling softcaps first at 25, and finally at 50. Pick the one you like the most and stick 50 in it, then put 25 in the other.

There is little difference between a pvp build and a pve build in this game.
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>>121623858
>But the game uses the term "the eldritch truth" in the context of the left-behind Great One Byrgenwerth dug up from the labyrinth.

No, it doesn't. From the Great Lake rune:

"Great volumes of water serve as a bulwark guarding sleep, and an augur of the eldritch Truth."
It's as general a concept as in Lovecraft's stories.
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>>121624679
My apologies, no idea how I forgot about those runes.

Alrighty then, in that case you'd be absolutely correct. Odd that water doesn't play a larger role in Bloodborne, come to think of it.
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>>121624593
I'm really curious as to were it'll be relative to Yharnam. Other side the lake maybe? Could we see Cainhurst from it?
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>>121624994

DLC will have a deep sea level and you will fight Dagon. This was confirmed in my mind. Get hyped.
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>>121625127
Completely random guess: I think it'll be somewhere near Byrgenwerth. Or it might've been sucked into the nightmare along with the better half of Byrgenwerth.
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>>121624994
I think it does it enough, water is associated with dreams, blood with nightmares is my interpretation of it.
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What if the doll was a hunter at some point?
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Alright keks, riddle me this. Why can you buff the LHB but not the Burial Blade, when LHB does potentially way more fucking damage than the BB is capable of?
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>>121625818
because the BoM and BB are lore nerfed
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Just starting out. When does the saw spear gain it's last gem slot so I can finally throw this fire gem on it?
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>>121625818
You can't buff anything with element damage.
They don't want a repeat of Blue Blood Sword.
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>>121625818
Because Burial Blade already has arcane damage, dude.

>>121625965
+6, like all other weapons. Take this present and leave quickly before I spoil something important.
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>>121625965
+6
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>>121625965

>Just starting out.

Gherman is your son. You have two choices. You either kill him or nuke the commonwealth.
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>>121624994
>My apologies, no idea how I forgot about those runes.

No worries m8. The game's not terribly explicit about the whole Lovecraft end of things, which is why so many walk away with "it was all a dream" interpretations.

>Odd that water doesn't play a larger role in Bloodborne, come to think of it.

Lorewise, water seems to reconcile Byrgenwerth, Cainhurst and Hemwick not showing the Bloodmoon. They're each right by the lake. I do hope we get some more water in the expansion though. It's nifty thematically
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>>121626045
but that was the purpose of the BB sword, which is why you had to focus your entire build around it because of the luck stat
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>>121626127
>nuke the commonwealth

that's a fallout 4 spoiler isn't it? Your child is going to be the villain aren't they?
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>>121626430

Of course. Bethesda cant make good stories.
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>>121564898
it works in PvE it's just bad compared to everything else

it's slow as fuck, has mediocre range and doesn't really do enough damage to make up for it. Other weapons have the huge poisebreak with better damage/range (Kirk and Ludwig) and almost everything has higher DPS than it. It has a neat synergy with beast blood pellets since you can use the tricked R2 to build up like crazy, but then you have to go back to the one handed moveset to capitalize on it.

I enjoyed making my wheel build well enough, but it honestly really is one of the worst PvE weapons in the game.
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>>121625965
>just starting out
>arcane

you've made a horrible mistake
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>Another fucking greatsword
>Le epic Berserk man XD

Fuck you Miyazaki. Where are my katanas? The chikage is fucking shit and I only have 1. Give me a good one you asshole. I paid $80 for this game.
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>>121626402
>Lorewise, water seems to reconcile Byrgenwerth, Cainhurst and Hemwick not showing the Bloodmoon.

Does nothing for its absence in Old Yharnam though, headcanon is that the bloodmoon doesn't shine there because the residence no longer dream or imbibe, something like that. Cleansing/burning it disconnected from the nightmare realty

>>121626551
fucking seriously? I thought they were going to make the MC a synth and do some cool shit with transhumanism fuck shit fuck beth.
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>>121626403
Little known fact: the blueblood sword wasn't the only buffable weapon with natural magic damage. The meat cleaver and geri's stiletto could also be buffed, with geri's stiletto being a very notable case in that it also had very high intelligence scaling of its own for double the trouble.

>>121626781
It doesn't even look like Gut's sword, it looks more like an imitation of the moonlight greatsword. Unless you're complaining about the moonlight greatsword in a fromsoft game?

It's bad enough we already have one katana in a victorian setting. It's not a bad weapon though, it just punishes you for being too aggressive in a game that usually punishes a lack of aggression. Which is why most people (read: shitters) only ever use its transformation attack and immediately change it back, because it has all the power of its blood mode with none of the risk.
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>>121627352
>The meat cleaver
Yeah, but the meat cleaver required immense stat investment with its low base damage and high scaling in multiple stats.

And the stiletto is fucking nothing.

It's not like they didn't know what they were doing when they made the BBS and cleaver buff-able.
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>>121626781
>katanas
Fuck off xXSephirot_666Xx
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>>121627645
Geri's stiletto was a criminally underrated weapon.
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is Bully Club happening? I'll be on in 5 minutes or so
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>>121627334
Don't have a solid idea for why it'd preclude it from showing up again, but we do know the Bloodmoon already rose there before.
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>>121627645
>And the stiletto is fucking nothing.
Bruh.
Try it. Buff it.
It's hella good.
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>>121627791

Fuck off I dont play kiddy games. My username is DesecratedFlame.
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>>121627851
>>121627929
seems like a waste when you can just use an estoc unless you wanted a mana gimmick
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>Nightmare Frontier is nothing but BT Reiter/Katanafags gun spamming praying for a parry

gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>121628290
The thing that makes stiletto good is slapping a 50 magic light weapon on top of a weapon that already has decent magic scaling. The mana recovery is actually kind of irrelevant compared to the damage, though it does mean you don't ever need spices.
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>>121628708
yeah but the base damage is so low and the scaling and reach look like ass

it doesn't look that great unless you wanted a gimmick primary weapon for an otherwise pure magic build because at +5 it's 20 mp a hit
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>>121629078
The reach is ass, yes. It's no gimmick though, that little thing packs a lot of punch with light weapon on it. And when light weapon wears off, you just cast it again because, hey, 20 mp per hit. My build used both light weapon and warding, and would just re-cast them as needed without ever having to stop for spices.
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>>121627859
Eating, but I'll be there, too.
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>>121628595
Play super passive till they drop their shitty parry fishing attempts.
It's actually quite cute to see them trying to go full offensive.
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>>121630297
Holy shit, I thought that was a loop for a solid minute there.
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>>121630297

Hahaha thats rich.
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>>121630297
what clothes
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Autismo, I'm sorry for parry fishing. I'm not meta enough for this.
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Is Lucifer good at PVP in this game too? He was great in Dark Souls.
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I only enjoyed having a blood build because usually no one in FCs runs the shitcake, but the reddit crowd is full evelyn parry fishing today
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>>121630771
No he's not, no he wasn't, put your trip back on lucy, and get the fuck out.
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>>121630771
have you beaten rom yet, lucy?
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haha are you playing a twink benjie?
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>>121630674
Didn't even notice bruh, pretty par for course anyways, this IS Bloodborne
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>>121630297
Hooooly fuck that is hilarious.

Bloodtinge is aids desu, you basically have a ranged monastery scimitar that has an even more forgiving parry window on top of doing more than reasonable chip damage, especially to invaders who lose HP.
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Bout to go full Walter Wheel on the BT kiddies
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>>121630771
>go to look at his profile everyone's laughing about
Oh my fucking god. He doesn't even play games, he just buys them.
>Nier - 1%
>Soul Sacrifice - 0%
>DMC4 - 2%
>FUCKING GODZILLA - 31%
>Dark Souls - 51% (???)
Holy shit this is like the holy grail of god awful taste o i am laffin. His reputation is now beyond a joke. He's almost Anthony Burch tier.
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>>121631307
Can't parry arcane tools and rosmarinus spam. Church > Kekhurst.
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>Make a SKL/BT build after seeing obscene Chikage damage my first playthrough
>Having more fun with Blade of Mercy
I just wanted to carry in coop, god damn this is fun though.
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>>121632056
>c u c k filters to kek
baka desu senpai
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>>121630297
Axefags exploit the broken hitboxes and they think they are good.
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>>121632287
>baka desu senpai
You know what, nevermind. This is an improvement.
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>>121630646
looks like madman's hood, gherman's top, choir/tomb prospector gloves, and black church trousers
almost the exact same thing I wear what the fuck
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Whoever thought a 30% decrease in hp was reasonable needs to jump off a fucking cliff
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>Fighting defiled Amy taking turns with a buddy for 3 hours
>our face after we gave up

How do you win against that thing?
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>>121632932
try hitting it and avoiding its hits. If you are not doing much damage equip a weapon
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>>121632840
it's basically identical to Demon's Souls' system
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>>121633068
10/10 guide anon
we don't even need 2ezdefiled anymore
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>>121632840
>tfw DaS3 gives hosts 2x HP than invaders

A I D S
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>>121632932
For phase 1 and 2 you just sprint around the arena, darting in and out of his range to bait attacks. Whenever he does attacks that bring it's head down to the ground you sprint in, attack it, then sprint back out.

For phase 3 you want to exploit his jumps. When he lands you want to be directly behind where his tail was at the time of his jumping. Webm related
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>>121631276
10vit, base Wheel stats, 89arc, BL98.
Phys%/+flat-arc gems

It fucks dudes up with 4 spins as long as I get a hit in. I made it just for this.

>>121632527
For sure

>>121632932
Want help after the Fight Club? This I can do for you, bby >>121591662
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>>121633094
Except demon souls had 20% decrease plus a second chance which was pretty much an increase of hp
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>>121632932
I usually go in with a weapon with long reach, threaded cane preferably since it's the safest but I can see the hunter axe being just as useful for strength builds. Anytime it's head is close to the ground do a running attack on it and maybe get a few regular hits in if you have the range and speed to. Then on phase threee ou lock onto the head and try to stay under them and keep hitting the head from there, when it jumps in the air dodge into the camera almost as it comes crashing down and repeat.
Or just keep hitting the arms if you're using a tricked chikage because it's EXTREMELY weak to bloodtinge based attacks.
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>>121633753
The hp decrease varied between 20%-30% depending on your character tendency, and second chance was OP bullshit that wrapped the metagame around itself.

Demon's souls did balance out the hp loss with a 30%-50% damage increase though, which ended up being very close to perfect for invader vs host. Bloodborne doesn't have that, which makes it just a penalty against invaders.
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So for streght build, is it better to equip Tonitrus with physical gems or with bolt gems?
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>>121634416
For a strength build, it's better to not use the tonitrus at all. It's a weapon for hybrid str/arc builds, buddy.

Use kirkhammer, hunter's axe, and/or wheel in untricked mode instead.
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Thanks for the tipps. We actually used the axe and got Amy to phase 3 super fast during our last tries. But the reach with the arms is just to much.

>>121633503
>want help?
I'm home now. Also my buddy doesn't have Ps+. But when I do it at my own place I'll remember to ask here for help.
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>>121634786
Trial version of PS+ is free, just remember to cancel it when it's done. There's a way to get infinite trial versions, iirc.
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>>121634416
Nourishing, from the testing done so far.
17, 19, and a 21% with 50str/10arc, buffed, at full hp, gives 897AR.

It's a fake number, but about 790 after taking damage. Almost 600 un-buffed.

Arc build to be determined.

>>121634786
>help?
Ok PSN ragincajunnugz
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>>121634595
You're lying, it's good as fuck.>>121634947
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>>121635050
Hell yeah
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>>121634947
>wheel is better at 25str/40-50arc
>tonitrus is better at 50str/25arc
Interedasting.
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>>121635279
it's excellent for both 12/50 str/arc and 50/base str/arc
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These guys just go at each other. No shaman bone blade here.
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>>121635050
FC is on?
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>>121634947
Don't you have a kid? How the fuck do you still have so much time for vidya?
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>>121635896

>>121635483
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>>121631669
>Nier - 1%
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>>121635731
Beast-possessed souls will attack anything and everything around them, be it friend or enemy, with a slight priority towards your enemies. They're especially useful against hemwick witches.

If you let them do their grab attack on you, it'll make them stronger so they kill stuff faster.
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>>121635972
Yes.
They're not babies, brah
I wish we had more money to do shit, hence me saying a while back I want hosting events for a 2nd job. I haven't found one that can work with my current hours yet.

The wife is also a necessity.
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Burial Blade duels are the most fun thing about this game's PVP imo.

Need to git gud with it though, seen some niggas pull off some crazy shit.
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>>121636429
Ask Phresko to train you.
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>>121636421
I hope that you get some shekels. At least you don't hunt them with a hammer when you're drunk.
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>>121636738
he said he wants to git gud, not be literally the worst person to play the game, ever
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>that redditor with the bma repeater
I should have expected this
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I was watching the trailer the trailer and noticed the bow. Whats the trick form? Another sword or a spear?
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Keep forgetting to bloodtap because I'm a cunt. Sorry huns
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>>121638058
arrow, like some legolas shit
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>>121638058
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>>121637928
>1 shot me while waving
>brush off dust
I like having more people to keep the fight times low, but fuck these faggots tonight.

>>121637176
Just the wife, and I'd consider it more of a Rifle Spear.
:^)
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So are we all in agreement about the saws being by far the best weapons in the game?
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>>121637928
I want to be a faggot. Is it worth the 50 blt?

And if so, is there any weapon actually worth using besides the fucking katana?
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>>121638726
WEW ANOTHER WEAPON WITH A BORING ASS STRAIGHT SWORD MOVESET

As if Ludwigs, Kird, Saw Spear and Cleaver weren't enough.
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>>121638803
You mean most broken? Yes.
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Does everyone in the fc have 3 27.2%? The damage is kind of demoralizing
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>>121639537
>Cleaver
>straightsword moveset

u wot m8

Also get hyped for Moonlight reskin
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>>121639934
most people desu
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>>121639934
>now
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>>121639704
Yes actually. Best moveset-wise would be the axe
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>>121640039
It's a fucking SS moveset except the weapons it just heald halfway down instead of at a regular hilt height.

Exact same generic movement in 1H form as every other shitty straight sword.
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Do we have any canebros?
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>>121639537
Are fuckin blind? Thats completely different
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>>121639537
Is a curved sword.
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>>121638726
>Flamberge bow

Neat.
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>>121639934

I'm really lazy so my highest gem is only 26.3

>that BMA repeater dude that does nothing but spam it

wew lad
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new thread lads

>>121643136
>>121643136
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