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No kissing Edition

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>>121397745

>NEW SERVER OPEN WITH A NEW KEY GIVEAWAY
https://treeofsavior.com/

>READ THE FAQ BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v_nlKX3uS7cBXlWI45HSZJHqNQ6hyeqSOg-W9wAP9T0/edit

>ToS Info: http://pastebin.com/3YcrrJkd (embed)
This includes more detailed information, as well as tools, resources, patch notes and official links.

>iCBT2 Details
- Server: Gabija
- FAQ for CBT2: https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/faqs-on-the-2nd-cbt/62971/
- EXP Rates, Drop Rates, and Client Version will all be based on the kCBT3 Client.

>Class Poll
- http://strawpoll.me/5756393 (embed)

>What is Tree of Savior?
Tree of Savior is a new action MMORPG with a lot of classes and cute hats. IMC Games have shown an interest in an international release, and has begun testing the game in various other languages, including English and Japanese, even whilst the Korean version is still in testing. The game is currently in the beta phase, and not fully released.

>What's changed since iCBT1?
Changes to Class Advancement and Skills: http://pastebin.com/gTbzuuV5 (embed)

>iCBT2 Sign-Up (open until 6th): https://treeofsavior.com/
- If you were able to access iCBT1, you will automatically have access to iCBT2.
- All keys should have been distributed by now.
- If you did not get a key, fansites may be giving out extra keys.

>Current Beta Tests
kCBT3 (Extended) - On-going, no end date announced.
iCBT2 - October 27, 2015, 03:00 AM (EDT) ~ Thursday, November 25, 2015, 23:00 PM (EST)

>F.O.E. list/spawn timers by some anons
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xFW1ARQn3kmTiJqpojCmoXiHcJsBK0J85IXiToHicuc/edit#gid=0

>Official Translation Project - https://github.com/Treeofsavior/EnglishTranslation
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first for a I want a sorcerer to sit in my face
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Thaumaturges are the cutest
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third for
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>>121450426
I'm going to start kissing in Klaipeda right now!
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nth for I wish there were viable classes for Fencer
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How is this game so far? The gameplay looks great but I'm skeptical, as with any MMO.

It isn't overly Korea-MMO is it?
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>>121450613
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what skill build should i go for this class?
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when are new beta keys coming out?
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Royal Mausoleum 4F, how to access that area?
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>>121450736

>archer c3

triggered
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>>121450703
Run while you still can.
We're stuck in the grind can't get out.
SAVE US
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>>121450318
What do you suggest then? Going Doppel? Does that even work?
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>>121450756
They haven't said anything.
Hopefully soon though, I keep refreshing my emails
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Any lvl 200 Memelander yet? How bad does it scale?
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>>121450703
It's pretty Korean. If you don't like the standard Korean grindfest (albeit, this is a little kinder early on thanks to the exp resets and dungeon spamming)

Bare bones and really rough around the edges and not ready for a release, but I personally enjoy this beta more than other MMOs I could be playing instead. But then I like grinding, so there's bias.
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>max level will be 400 something
>damage = atk+skill damage

I can't even begin to describe how fucking stupid this is. Seriously, at times it feels like they are just shotgunning innovations in this game, while some are spot on, some are just far, FAR from being interesting. No fucking wonder STR feels useless. Looks like endgame is DEX to win.
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What stats should I pick up as C3 Pyro, C2 Link?
Just Int or is it like Wizard where you would want to go all out Spr?
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>>121450613
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Is Corsair the only one who can use sword and dagger and attack fast?
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>>121450938
Impressive
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>>121450848
Not that guy, but to be dead honest, the sole reason I went cata over hop2 was for the special effect of the trident. In hindsight, in the final game I will not go cata because I will eventually get a better spear (and spear lunge makes enemies weak to pierce, so there's that).
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>>121450736
Stop while you're ahead.
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Global chat comes back and so does the lag.
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>>121450736
>Archer c3

I'm impressed you made it that far, I believe in you.
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>>121451053
>Trying to interact with those books in Mage Tower 4f
Kill me
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>>121450613
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Is there a way to make the music stop when i alttab out of the game?
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Anyone know where to get the "Regina Crossbow" recipe?

Need a bow/crossbow that isn't shit at 75 and it looks like that's the only option
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>>121450801
Don't get so attached this will be wiped in a few weeks anyway. Don't give your lobster a name.
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Is Guardian worth investing?
Is there any sense in C3 Peltasta?
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>>121450872
>>121450872
>>121450872
>>121450872
Respond please
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>>121449159
can i? Where can we met?
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This place is fucking hell.DO NOT go in here without a party.
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This boss is pure ruse cruise.
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Should I go for the Rogue dream or do the insane and go for C3 Scout
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>>121451370
There is no sense in even C2 peltasta.
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Is there some trick to leveling up gems or is the best way to do it just cannibalizing other gems
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>>121451456
>Archer C3
You are already insane
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>>121451456
Rogue's cuter
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>>121451456
Scout c2/c3 is atrocious.
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Where's the best place to farm for gems?
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>>121451524
Best way is to feed it gems and the dust
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>>121451456

>archer c3

so this is the power of 4chan exclusive memes
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>>121450918
>str and int literally add 1 damage per point, even to skills
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>>121451706
Dust?
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>>121451336
I don't think there's a recipe.
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How does Cube Amulet work? You just stick it on something and it stays forever?
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No idea what it does, if anything.
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>>121451456
Why are you not wearing that sweet, sweet scout outfit?
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Do we get Iron Bow and Hawk Bow on quest or grinding?
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>>121451393
>174 and still not rank 6

Did you grind in demon prison?
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>>121451773
There's an abrasive from somewhere that gives a chunk of exp when you feed it to a gem in enhancement. I've only gotten it once and I don't even know where I got it, but it's a purple dust item that specifically mentions being used to level up a gem
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>>121451898
Yes
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>>121451456
why all the tosg archer not SPR archer?
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>>121451957
Because sp pots
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>>121451957
Why would anyone want to gimp themselves any more? You're already pretty fucked damage and CC wise as an archer.
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>>121450736
>>121451456
is this a new meme?
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Would a full con 3linker be worth it?

You could give a ton of HP to your group, but it would only be up half the time
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>>121452069

it's fresh out of the meme factory
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>archer
>full str sucks. Let's try dex
>full dex is just powerless crits. let's try a mix
>still weak but a bit better
>keep chugging sp pots and using gear with bonus sp
>squishy as fuck, hp goes down in 4 hits
>walk by some people talking
>they're saying archers are disgustingly strong
At least my hat is cute.
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>Finally found the Flamini recipe
Starving demons way, Lv3 chest
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Absolute truth. Im so glad that i made new character
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>>121451835
How'd you get it?
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>>121451706
Oh is that what it is used for? I got 2 dust on my character's bag.
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anyone else getting broken ipf files? Is there any fix for this?

SEND HELP
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http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/77pzaol7il/
i wanna run something at least somewhat close to this for stealthy magic burst damage + healing in pvp, how screwed am i /tosg/
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>>121452298
It's dick error, use the close bypass.
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>>121451456
c3 scout gets you scan, which lets you reveal hidden treasure chests. Charge people money to get their pretty hats and stuff.
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>>121451835
Wear it and call every one a faggot, and if they get uppity just link them that.
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>>121452165
You're better off just getting the Lapis Katzbalger since that will last you longer.
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I'm sure a Barbarian could of killed this with a couple of skills but that would require multiple button presses. I just have to hold down square.
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>my channel dies again
>there are no other channels
>this zone has effectively disappeared off the map
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>>121452249
Kubas, field boss drop.
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>>121452195
As a pyromancer, I've played with parties that had from our overlords linkers3 and thaumaturges to memebarblanders and sappers, but I have NEVER played with monks nor paladins.

What the fuck do they even do?
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>>121452378
Mage Tower keeps doing that for me
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Where do you go for kissu in this goddamn town?
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>>121451839
I like the look of the Archer outfit better honestly, scout outfit just looks meh to me
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>>121451835
Armband is a cosmetic slot, like upper/mid headgears.
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>>121452319
what is a close bypass?
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hes here
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>>121451637
My original plan was Rogue but people seem to have already proven that its decent so Scout has me curious
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So what is your playlist for the new guys coming in?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9V3x61D994
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>>121452069
>archer C3
>meme

the entire class is a meme but going archer C3 is not why its a meme
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Should I do the insane and go both pyromancer and cryomancer?
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>>121452357

how do you even kill quest bosses, you fuck nugget.
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>>121451880
Hawk bow recipe dropped from the place with Wendigo's when I was grinding I think
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>>121452429
hunter outfit=>scout outfit >wugushi outfit>ranger=>archer
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>>121452519
I'll just contribute this because no one gives the live action any love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhYHg8e-6Fs
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>>121452554
I do the same exact thing like the webm. The only difference is I cast saftey zone before it.
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Is the boss of the Royal Mausoleum 5th floor not supposed to drop anything?
Because I feel a bit like I got ripped off.
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>>121451957
This >>121452020
Honestly SP pots are more then enough for me kill bosses in a timely manner and I still have a decent chunk of spending money
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>>121452469
The chink trick
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>>121452621

youre a patient one
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>>121452523
oh so u think u know so much about memes huh???
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>>121452643
he ran away
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>>121452643
You didn't do enough damage.
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>>121452357
what stats
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>>121452158
You should've asked them why
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>>121451386
I'll be back on in a couple of hours, I gotta go play Overwatch beta for a bit
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>>121452410
SMITE
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>>121452410
>Monks
Punching things
>Pals
Something, i dont know
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>>121452325
Is there a list of hidden chests and whats in them? that might help me decide on going with Scout
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>>121452480
>All that /tosg/ by the end
Guilds when
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>>121452590
I think it looks nice up close but with the screen zoomed out like normal it doesn't really stand out to me
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>>121452480
Is that a Corsair?
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>>121452954
When guilds will be possible.
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>>121452550
Yes mango.
Then go linker and pyro again after for maxinum damage output since you can now perma-lock enemies in your spells.
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Which stats do I need as linker? full spr?
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>>121453014
Aye aye cap'n
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Holy shit
The noise that the Sakmolis at the Owl Burial Ground make
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>>121453249
Is Hop okay, or should I go Barb? I really can't see Barb other than a bunch of offensive skills that I won't be using later
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>>121451898
You usually get rank6 around 177-178.
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WHEN DO YOU GET RANK 5 I WANT SORC SENPAI
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>>121453343
127/128
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>>121452816
>>121452829
Well that was helpful. I think. Kinda. Maybe.

Thanks guys.
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Does the Toy Hammer work with spells/Sadhu OoB?
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>>121453304
Hop is fine yes
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>>121453381
I don't think so. Can't confirm however.
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>>121453012
Is flare shot as fucking horrible as it seemed to be?
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>>121453428
Which would be better PVE-wise though. A two-handed weapon or a spear
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>>121453343
Like 127 usually. I know the feeling. I want to get Sorc so I can watch my SP murder itself while Snow Rolling alongside Chapparition
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>>121453304
dunno, I think corsairs should barb. I really like helm splitter + cleave and the buffs
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Any good spots for griding past 85 ?
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>>121453492
Its not great but its at least a little extra dot on bosses and if I can ACTUALLY get mobs to stand in it for the full duration it can kill them all

Like the quests where 20 mobs spawn on you are made easier with it

I'll take the extra tickling over nothing honestly
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When monsters are spawned in game, are their loot tables already established?
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>>121453551
I was actually thinking, would a Eyestra Rod + Sage Wall combo ease the SP drain that Sorc faces ? Would try, if I ever got in the possession of either.
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Warning to all sadhus
OOB is fucked hard when it comes to weapons

The difference between a weapon with 128 matt and 27 holy atk
and one with 214 matt

Is a grand total of the weapon with less matt doing about 60 more damage per hit on a boosted OOB attack.

On any other magic attack, including non-boosted OOB, it is about 100 damage weaker.

So for some fucking awful reason, against any enemy, no matter the weaknesses, boosted OOB attacks basically say 'fuck you' to your matt if there is a weapon no matter how much weaker if it has some ele in it

The damage formulas in this game are so fucking dumb
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>Playing Pyro
>Half of my DPS disappears whenever i'm fighting a flying enemy

Will going Linker fix this?
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>>121453678
If you need to grind you missed shit. Areas around tenants farm?
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>>121453549
A Spear will murder bosses with stabbing
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B> more Dungeon entrys

srsly wtf. 2 a day so lame and boring
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>>121453734
Try to calm the fuck down and make some sense of what you're trying to say buddy.
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>>121453741
Not really, no. It's going to make it slightly less unbearable if you have to fight a whole bunch of flying shits at once but your damage will still be ass compared to what it is on ground mobs
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>>121453741
kinda ye
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>>121451370
C1 pelt only has merit from swashbuckling for solo mobbing, and that's debatable over S2.
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>>121453741
>Playing a**her
>My DPS appears only when i'm fighting a flying enemy
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>>121453745
Already did them, should I go straight to stele road then ?
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>>121453741
>The other half disappears when playing in a party with a melee class
Pure suffering.

On another note, I'm starting to think that I do more dps without the fire ball burn attribute... but I don't think I can prove it, only calculate it
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>>121453842
>>121453858
How about C2 Pyro? Is Flame Pillar that much of an improvement?
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Anyone up for 130lvl dungeon?
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>>121453924
it has a long CD, but nice in dungeons and quest bosses. Lv10 fire ball + flame ground are very nice too
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>>121453872
At 85, no chance, you won't get any quests.
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>>121453909
The burn attribute is actually nerf because it fucks up your CD and SP costs.
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>>121453817
Boosted OOB's damage formula is fucked.

The matt on your weapon is inconsequential compared to ele

27 holy attack can make up for 90 less matt and somehow make you hit for around 100 more damage with boosted OOB.

strong rod does say 1k damage per zaibas
shitty blunt does 900

strong rod does 480 per unboosted oob hit
shitty blunt does 450

So rod oudamages by 90~ per OOB attack

strong rod does 820 per boosted oob hit
shitty blunt does 910

So for some reason the blunt now outdamages by 270 per OOB attack

There is a small, kind of fucking big problem for sadhus here
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So how do I get to the separated area in the south west of the first floor of the Royal Mausoleum?
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>>121453924
PILLAR IS COMPLETE SHIT
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>>121453741
>>121453842
>put one ball near mobs
>link ball + 4 fly mobs
>pull all together
>fap
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Gabija is dead or just mausoleum 5f?
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So close, yet so far.
BTW should I become Necro or Alchemist?
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So I started saving exp cards at 130. When am I supposed to use them again?
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>>121453975
So what would you recommend that I get first? I have no idea what to take in the later ranks.
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>>121454057
170
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>>121454076
you got linkC1 ?
if you go pyroC2, maxout ball+ground 1st
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>>121450851
>that feels when korean grind fest doesnt want you to play itself
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>>121454003
Sure it's not just that oob attack derive their damage from combined Matt+Patt?
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Let's play spot the idiot at the market.
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What level do you need to be to take quests from the mercenary outpost in fedimian?
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this is objectively the best support build and you can't prove me wrong

http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i959eksc4a/
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>>121454275
100
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>spend 2 hours grinding Mausoleum 5F
>Get Nukella
>get a blue orb
>get two obsidian
>final minute before I log out some random person kills a mod that drops a fox mask and doesn't notice.
>sit on it so no one else sees.

ez hat
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>>121454236
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>>121454236
esdesu truly worst grill
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Any of the wugushi attributes worth getting?
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>>121453996
Yes, exactly that

>>121454040
>put one fire ball near mobs
>link ball + mobs
>balls gets knock away

why the fuck this keeps happening, fuck me
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How does boosting work in this game?
Would I fuck a lower level character over from his exp if we're in the same party but I just put buffs on him?
How about if I were to debuff the enemy with something like sleep or links?
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>>121454342
Zhendu attribute is great since it applies to all other poisons

Throw gu pot only has 2 ranks and is a no brainer
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>>121454236
770 for a level 15 Crossbow? What the fuck.. THATS A FUCKING STEAL, BUY AND RESELL. SHEKEL SHEKEL.
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>>121454225
Damage boost only comes in after the boost, pumping str did not affect it, equipping patk bracelets did not affect it.
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>>121454398
From what I've read if you have a 20 level difference with someone party exp should still be normal but it starts to take penalties when going further
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>>121454398
There are different xp sharing options with sufficiently descriptive names.
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>>121454287
>http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/i959eksc4a/

Why only one point in sacrament? Also this looks more like a jew build, what does oblation actually do?
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What level is the next instance after the 90+ one?
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>Earth Archon
>Get a linker in the party that links all of us so when someone gets hit by shit they should dodge we all eat damage
>Get the Archon card
Toy Hammer #2 never
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>>121454586
130
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There's apparently a table that gives a quest in mage tower 3F, but I can't find it. Any pointers?
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>>121454129
You have slain me, friend
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>>121454603
Seriously, linker is great when it links enemies but that link your teammates so all of you fucking die shouldnt be allowed
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Can anyone objectively explain why memelander is bad in the endgame other than "le korean said so xD"?

So far highlander can do various things:
-high damage skills that hit a lot of targets with good variety of slash and strike type
-guard as well as full con peltasta for a little SP and without the insane damage cripples peltasta has to suffer and stagger enemies longer than peltasta
-reduce int and spr of magic casters
-cause various status effects such as bleeding (damage scales with atk), shock, armor break and no jump, and can turn them into more damage with vertical slash
-reduce enemy physical def by 100% with skull swing
-ice pick effect by turning the reduced def into damage with skull swing+vertical slash
-continuous attack skill with 50% base critical rate
-extreme control with several knockback/knockdown skills that can be turned down at will
-all skills cost a meager amount of SP compared to almost all other classes
-two handed sword means they can hit more targets per attack than anyone else in the game and their attacks have a pretty wide range
-as a swordsman they get higher level-scaling phys def bonus, much higher HP multiplier and very slightly lower max SP

Am I forgetting anything?
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>"Joint penalty is an extremely potent skill! That's why it only links 5 enemies!"
>Nobody ever takes Linker2 Which would double the amount of enemies linked
Yea, whatever. You guys aren't about to meme me into gimping my character this time and classing a linker.
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>>121454756
It splits the damage, doesn't it? I guess it would suck if the overkill damage is massive
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>>121454603
I stopped using Physical Link around level 90 or so. It was good at the beginning, when everyone had low hp and the damage reduction was visible.

As levels go on, not only does the guy with 6k+ HP stands and eats hits, making you die - but the skill is also bugged, linking (at best) 3 people, even with max level.
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>>121454828
It's not BRbarian :^)
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What the
I didn't know that you can use junk to upgrade your gems
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is this a bug or is someone actually whispering me
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>>121454936
You can, but it's better to use other gems you know you don't need
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>>121454859
>making 5 things take the damage all of the other ones take
>gimping your character

why continue breathing being so dumb
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>>121454950
It's a mystery.
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Anyone wanna come for the Noisy Mineloader on mage tower 4F? Gabija.
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>Decide to give Pyro-Linker a try
>Link an enemy to my fireball
>Hangman's Knot
>Not effort required kills
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I like how you can somehow dodge poison and bleeding
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is it too late to get keys now? i want to try this game
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>I can buy materials and recipes cheaper than their sale price

am I being tricked or is this really the market?
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>>121455052
Yep.
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I hate myself for this but whenever I see a barbarian go past I just assume it's a BR, they are the most fucking dumb players I swear

baka
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>>121455052
You've got a chance soon if you sign up for it now, or maybe someone will get extras and casually drop them in the thread again. Have faith either way
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>>121455114
do I count as a barbarian if I'm a squire now but use barbarian skills?
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>>121455207
You're always a Barbarian. You're everything you've ever been
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>>121454859
Linker C2 is only 8 targets
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/20403/
>Level 10 Maximum number of Links: 8
3 more targets is a wasted class. thats why ppl go linker 1 or 3
if it would be +5, would be pretty ok
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>>121455261
But have I ever been me?
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>>121454859
It's pretty fucking ridiculous when you combine it with good AoE damage, especially in party settings.
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>>121455080
Some people don't even know about the 10% fee too bad market is always down.
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>>121455314
There's only one way to find out. Look at the palm of your hand and believe
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>90 dungeon boss rush hour
>Just want the full run for exp
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>>121454573
I prefer to max Aspersion and Blessing.

Oblation can increase the amount of damage done by Indulgentia.
>>
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/cssw7gwbfc/

when will i have fun
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>>121454950
I was just wondering that
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>>121455272
Nobody goes linker 3 since the C3 skill is worthless and Joint Penalty only gets an extra 2 targets and a huge increase in SP cost from it.
Linker 2 is pretty nice not just for 8 targets on Penalty but also for Spiritual Chain. Longer Bind from Hangman's is nothing to scoff at either.
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What's the max level for experience runs in the level 50 dungeon?
Have to know which parties to avoid to actually get experience in there.
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>>121454950
Someone probably tried whispering you
>playing as priest
>do lvl50 dungeon
>my internet shits itself
>comes back after a couple of hours
>80+ whispers
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Anyone know how much coin it takes to max attributes?
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>>121451386
If you're still around, I'll be in Klaipeda ch3, just west of the statue
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>>121455467
Just solo it.
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>FOE disappears

Well then
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>>121455473
One circle in Bokor is useless. Get Krivis 2 imo
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>>121455569
As nice as my Cryomancer tree of suction is for CC, I just don't have confidence in soloing it reasonably. Especially the temple mages. Maybe if I was a swordsman and could burst everything easier
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>>121455336
The important thing is Hangman's Noose if you have Memelanders with you.
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>>121455473
0 in Daino wtf
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>>121455558
I still have whispers from someone I played with on the first day, it's broken as hell.

Click on the whisper icon >>121455029 then randomly click around in the blank space, it shows you names of the people who whispered you (you can't read messages though)
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I just finished the first floor of the mausoleum but I didn't see any way to remove the seal. Do I have to go through all the levels first?
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>Its less hassle to start over than it is to grind if you fuck up at any point in time during your leveling

There is something seriously wrong with this.
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>>121455473
1 circle of a bunch of random shit that would be torture
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>>121455785
>does not exist
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>>121455773
not even true, people are just acting retarded
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>>121455804
look senpai i just want pardoner so i can be a jew
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>>121454727
Please respond
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How do I increase weapon range? Priests' feels so short compared to your average swordsman
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>>121454828
Koreans haven't actually played their game, they've had continual exp events that enable them to get to level 200 in a couple of days.
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>>121454603
Link splits damage. If everyone takes an aoe hit, it won't help.
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>>121455909
If you wait till release you can be a real jew Kabbalist
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>>121455873
Or massively lazy. This exp card thing isn't even a problem till you're over a hundred
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Anyone has lag issues in Mausoleum Storage ? After 5 minutes or so, the skills stop working, and mobs disappear from the screen - even if the chat is still going.

Didn't happen to me in any other map so far
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Anyone has any idea why can't I open a Buy-in Shop for Arde Daggers? I'm just trying to transfer it from another character.
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>>121455272
I went linker2 because everything else is trash for summoners. I'll gladly take 3 more targets and 5 seconds more of stun, especially when the stun lasts longer then the cooldown.
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Anyone gotten their keys yet?
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>>121456151
can only put mats + recipe + ? in shop. no gear
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I haven't played for about a week, anything new?
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Anyone on Gabija want to run the level 90 dungeon for a chance at Arde Dagger? Level 126 here.
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>>121456151
Because of potential you can't use buy-in for equipment. What's to stop someone from selling you an equip with 1 potential left?
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>>121456601
How as the trip to Rogue?
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I wish to be a miko
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>>121456601
Where's the level 90 dungeon again? I forgot.
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>>121456697
HOW DO I BECOME THIS SEMEN DEMON?
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>>121456697
Mikos shouldn't be wearing panties
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>>121456751
It's the upper part of her clothes.
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>>121456601
Yes, sure, I'll meet you by the entrance.
>>
are these new Missions worth it ?
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>>121456723
Class is still in the works so you can't yet
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>>121456630
I wasn't planning on it but after people kept saying Fletcher was lackluster, I decided to test Rogue instead.

Archer C1 > Ranger C3 was my path.

I might not be as strong as Archer C3 single target with their level 15 Multi Shot but I can keep up with level 5 Multi Shot, level 15 Barrage, and level 5 Spiral Arrow while offering a lot more AoE. Overall I'm happy with the path I've chosen up till now.

>>121456710
Historic Site Ruins. The one with Necroventer as the boss.

http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/57825/

>>121456873
'Kay, give me a minute to get there.
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So what am I supposed to do after I've run the 90 dungeon 5 times? grind while waiting for the reset?
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>>121452830
There is not and that's where you come in.
I assume you don't even need a Scout to dig chest up, just dig in correct spot. But we need to know the correct spots first.
Make a kickstarter-like thing, raise funds on forums to do chest-finding expeditions, make it cheesy/chuuni, roll in dosh.
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>>121456947
Probably yeah some new quests opened up for me after my runs so thats what I did
>>
>go do a boss when timers are correct
>always 40+ people by the end

>find a boss we don't have timer for
>4 people
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>>121456609
>>121456435
Thanks, I just wanted to see how Sadhu's OOB worked with it. If anyone knows please let me know.
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>>121456947
Yeah, though eventually I said fuck it and ate some cards to reach Mage Tower's level and did quests up to it. In the process of doing the 90 dungeon to cap again (2/5 so far, will hit 105 on my next run and class level 9) and still holding onto 6 Lv5 cards for after I've capped) then going to talk to Grita and start the Mage Tower set.

You can mob grind a bit with Stele Road, Goddess' Ancient Garden and Fedimian Suburbs
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i plan on goin archer c2 ranger c1 and then wugu

would it be better to just archer c3? i just want some more aoe desu
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And there goes the market again
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I hope release have anything fun at all to play
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>>121457354
it would be better to go c1 archer c2 ranger before wugushi. You're gonne need those extra 5 levels on barrage
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>>121457047
The idea of exploring unknown things is pretty appealing to me so consider yourself as having sold me on Scout C3
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>>121457297
probably wouldn't do anything since blessing/sacrament don't, but this is just speculation
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>>121457452
I am probably going to do the exact same path I've done so far again in release. I am having so much fun with Cryomancer's crowd control and Snow Rolling, which also works as crowd control while being great damage.
>>
Goddamnit. Why'd I forget this game existed and miss the second beta.

Anyone have any clues on when more keys'll come out?
>>
Do you guys know if there is a penalty against your attack for fighting enemies that are something like 5-10 levels higher than you?
Or is the reason that I can't fight lv100 enemies at lv60 cause the enemies just have higher defenses.
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>>121455207
Squirebro can you use your repair shop for your own equips?
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>>121457561
They literally just ended another key give away like a few hours ago so you're kinda fucked unless some anons start throwing out keys
>>
I've tanked quite a bunch of field bosses so far, and I noticed I'd get out-aggro'd some times. When it's another Peltasta, there is no problem, since tank is a tank.
But I've counted 5 cases so far when it was not a Swordsman that did it. Surprisingly, in all 5 cases, it was an Archer, which led me to think there might be a bug involved with them. It was never Quarrel Shooter either, which you could assume to generate extra threat than others. They were always around my level (and bosses too), definitely no chance of them dealing 6 times as much damage as I could dish out.


I want to write something like this on forums, since that's obviously a bug and submitting a report with video is near impossible. Have you guys seen anything like this, on field bosses, or in dungeons? Maybe some feedback
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>>121457615
you can but it consumes repair kits, they're only 80 silver each though. You can also buff your own weapons and armor
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>>121457561
you have the worst timing anon
you should have checked their main site for announcements
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>get poisoned
>lose 35% of my health

Maybe I should start buying antidotes.
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>>121457610
yes, the optimal is 4 level differences where it will gives 100% exp without penalty.

you can't fight level100 when you are level60 not because of higher defense but the mechanic of the game where you only do 1 damage.

there's a chart but couldn't find it now.
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Why do I keep getting DC from Laima.
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>>121457649
Why would a QS generate extra threat?
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>>121457687
I see, thank you anon for clearing my doubts.
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>>121457753
well fuck me then, I didn't think there would be an exp penalty so I assumed that higher leveled monsters would give me more exp
>>
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/uyy4lbpm89/
Can I stab-stab hard and tank big things?
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>>121457829
found it

http://toswiki.treeofsaviorgame.com/mechanic/experience
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>>121457760
defense class
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Welp looks like shout's dead again. I need a healer for the level 130 dungeon, feel free to come to the entrance and I'll invite you.
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>>121457649
Could be poison from wugushi? maybe it has more to do with the number of hits?
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>>121457649
This is purely circumstantial but when I party with people and we fight quest bosses I tend to have the bosses attention 90% of the time as an archer even with barbs/highlanders etc
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>>121457989
I think spamming more skills generates more threat than normal attacks.
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>>121457648
>>121457704
goddamnit. just kill me now.
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>>121457896
thanks anon
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Anyone else trying to login just stuck in loading screen? The bar goes about 2/3 of the way and just stops I hear the music and everything
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>>121457925
>>121457989
>>121458052
None were Wugushi. Not sure about amount of hits, maybe Multi-shot has some effect here, or the 0CD skills are to blame.

I know for sure one was C3 Archer, one was C3 Ranger, so it happens with various builds.

Still, I don't think Archers are able to deal 6x as much damage as a Hoplite.
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Im doing the Sauga quest. I have over a hundred loot bags already I haven't activated the quests completion yet?
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do i pop the cards now
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>>121458178
use one of those bags!!


can someone tell me the name of the Fedimian bgm? its so calming and smooth i gotta hear it while taking a bath
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>>121458147
well, multishot and barrage both deal mutiple hits. so it could be that or the skill spam.
>>
Shall i upgrade my bullet shooter to +15? It is +10 atm. Also, which gem shall i use? +Crit dmg -Accuracy?
>>
What is your overall opinion on Tree of Savior in its current state, and what you think it can be in the future?
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>>121458209
If you ran out of quests yeah
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Has the class chart been updated yet
>>
>>121458252
Fun game that needs varying amount of polish in certain aspects (itemization in particular), that should be pushed back to at least 2017 since I don't believe the devs, despite how based they are, can fix all the bad stuff in half a year.
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>>121454828
>Am I forgetting anything?
this is a beta
Expect everything revamped for release
Kill yourself
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>>121458230
wow that was all I needed...
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>>121458337
This to be honest. Feels like open beta is going to be way too soon. But yes the game has a lot of potential and even in its current state is tons of fun.
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>>121458147
It is still fucked up. It is impossible to keep aggro off archers. And worst of all - i cant even use stealth to drop it. If i stealth durning boss fight AI considers that the fight has ended and just regens to full.
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>>121458252
I think it's a lot of fun. Solid basis, but a lot of things need to be fixed pretty badly. Skills scaling terribly is a huge issue in the way classes are designed, for an example.
The fact that the shout/partychat/market servers are constantly on the fritz is ridiculous.

But I just can't stop playing.
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>>121458387
My pleasure, sometimes those quests just confuse
>>
How much is zircon worth? I don't want to be ripped off by this guy in Fedi.
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>>121458442
So it's a useful skill to stall for time while waiting for /tosg/ fuckbois to arrive at scene of crime?

>rank 5
>7 skills
Ayy what the fuck nigga.
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>>121458517
Where did you get one?
>>
I can't tell if I'm doing decent as a sapper or if everyone around me is terrible.

Also >FLYING ENEMIES REEEEEEEEE ONLY MY CLAYMORES HIT THEM REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>121458209

>saving exp cards

the meme to end all memes
>>
>giveaway ended
So did anyone get their keys already?
>>
>log in
>find a blue mob in the first zone I warp into
>swell body it
>gain 180% xp
lol
>>
>>121458534
Archer c3 Scout c1. What did you expect?
>>
Is gabija dying
>>
Since we have some r6s, do we have a Necromancer that can show the differences between certain cards? I actually just want to see the Archon card in action, but any will do

>>121458252
It has great potential, and I have a lot of fun even with it in its current state. It's a really linear game for a long time, and while there's a grind you're not grinding to an objective because there aren't many things in the game in its current state.

Like, it's a really unpolished work and nowhere near ready for release, they have a lot of work to do on it, a lot more to do besides the very few quests per map and the scattered dungeons and missions. A bit of balance tweaking needs to be done for certain jobs, too. A level 70 dungeon to even out between 50 and 90 would work to resolve the Mausoleum issue people can currently run into. Increased spawn rates for various monsters, better mob density at later maps in general. Raids released over time.

Outside of this, and a few other things I'm just too lazy to list (in case of word count mostly) cosmetic matters such as weapon skins, more things to unlock and explore to obtain, improved itemization (we have a lot of basically vanilla weapons with nothing going for them even on a fluff scale)

We also need things on the subject of refined features, or working in general. The friend list needs to work, shout and market need to be more stable.

I'm having a lot of fun, like a Hell of a lot of fun, but it needs a lot of polishing and testing
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>>121458625
They said it would take 24 hours to send the shit.
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>>121458694
>24 hrs
160 hours you mean.
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>Fighting with all my armour and weapons broken
So when will they make it so it has some effect?
>>
Anyone want to do 5 boss runs in hope of arde daggers?
>>
>>121458727
It was edited from 160 to 24 recently.
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>>121458568
I'm not sure. I can't find it in the journal
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This thing is here if anyone's up for that.
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>>121458773
I'll come in a couple minutes.
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>>121458765
Ah ok, that's good! I already have a key but I'm trying to get one for my friend, hope I do.
>>
why the fuck am i having problems against bosses at level 30 with a fucking archer holy shit you guys were right about this
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>>121458209
Only pop large amounts of cards when your certain there isn't going to be massive lag spikes.
>>
>>121458442
You mean solo? because in a party I can pop stealth whenever the fuck I want and re position for free
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>>121458923
I mean world bosses. Whenever the fuck i wanted to save my ass with stealth those fags just reset. It works fine in dungeons though.
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Ayyy Lmaooo
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>>121458859
Are you using multishot?
>>
How the fuck do I deal with magician enemies? I actually cannot quest in these areas solo, I have 182 magic defense and almost 4k hp.
>>
is there a trick to making Cartar Stroke hit on more monsters? I feel like I can only hit 3 or 4 at most.

Any 1H Spears with AoE Rate increase stats?
>>
Is there any penalty in dungeons for high level players in the group?
>>121458859
Because you are bad. Up to level 130 i had problems with exactly 2 bosses. But one of them is a job quest and everyone has problems with the other one.
>>
Holy shit who jacked up the difficulty around 142?
Everything has billions of HP and hits like a truck.
>>
>>121458773
Someone said you need to be level 160 to hit more than 1

>>121459062
Use a 2h sword ffs
>>
>>121456609
You can trade an item with 1 potential left, it has 0 after the tradee recieves it.
>>
>>121458442
scout sucks?
>>
>>121459136
I was hitting 800 on it, so not true.

I don't plan on fighting it anyway, just letting people know.
>>
>>121456601
>Anyone on Gabija want to run the level 90 dungeon for a chance at Arde Dagger?
Do you still run the dungeon?
>>
Does anyone feel like physical defense is completely useless? Same as crit resistance mobs don't crit anyway. The most useful stat on your gear is probably magic defense.
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/add-an-attribute-to-deactivate-thaumaturges-enlargement-effects/106789

lol
>>
https://youtu.be/5AQcrO6TSsE

Symphonix Music Prostitute - Tree Of Savior OST - BGM

lol strange name, found this searching for Fedimian bgm :3
>>
>>121459176
Not exactly. I grabbed scout for pvp. If i wanted to go pure pve i would have gone ranger 3>rogue
>>121459192
Noone responded so far and i dont want to mess up with ppl who run for exp as i dont know if partying with high levels would reduce exp gain/loot or not.
>>
>>121459136
Or just have a C3 Highlander hit it with Skull Swing, then Pardoner casts discerning evil to make it 100% uptime.
>>
>>121459256
>not wanting to get swole

what the fuck
>>
>>121459192
>>121459276
Oh, that was not an answer to me, well, im up for it anyway.
>>
>>121459023
sauce
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>>121459192
We just finished with our 5 runs. Got 4 talt and a Beetleback recipe.
>>
is arde dagger fucking best in slot? like do you ever replace it?
>>
>>121459032
yes
>>121459115
by problems i mean it's so fucking slow, of course i'm not getting 2shotted by anyone or having problems defeating them but compared to every other class it's 10x slower
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>>121459256
Thaumaturges are so cute
>tfw IPF error out of nowhere
Preferred reading dick Mongolian runes over this.
>>
>>121459424
there's 2 daggers that are better, by far.
>>
Found it!

Post your fav part of the ToS soundtrack!

https://youtu.be/q69i-bXem9A
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>>121459443
>Map dies
>Disconnected
>IPF on char select
>Reload game
>IPF
>IPF
>IPF
>IPF

>IPF
>>
>>121459023
Rho Aias?
>>
S.F.A.'s D Lejano trumps all other music in this game, really.
>>
I just heard about this game. realistically how many months until i can expect to play? without paying paying for early access.
>>
>>121458236
It's fucking hard to get an equip to +15 even if you could afford the costs. You can easily spend 500k on a lowlevel weapon and not get it to +15. Good luck doing that with higher level equips.
>>
>>121459424
Yeah, it has almost no damage roll on it. There are two 170 daggers, one gives the same stats but also +DEX and has good patk, other gives Poison damage instead.
>>
>>121455047
Why? Can't you in real life?

Pleb.
>>
>>121459502
well since you just missed the consolation beta invite wave by 6 hours, about 20 years
>>
I'm approaching lvl 120 as barblander, which 120 weapon should I aim for?
>>
Kubas live in crystal lot
>>
>>121459461
Arde is best in slot for rod mages though right?
>>
>>121459276
I was right there just now but you didn't notice me.
>>
>>121459518
According to DB its 51% from +9 to +10. Dunno if it might be outdated. But its the second wep i enchanced to +10 and it went w/o fails. Same as the first one.
>>
>>121455080
>npc buys bow for 1567 silver
>look at the market
>someone is selling the same item
>for 1567 silver

That kind of situation where nobody wins.
>>
>>121459597
Kind of sitting alt-tabbed.
>>
>>121459382
lvl 175 dungeon
>>
>>121459560
gabija?
>>
>>121459648
he actually loses like a fucking idiot since you get 10% of the sivler from the market place
>>
>>121459704
gabija.
>>
>>121459696
I saw you go in.
>>
When will we get infinite extended betas like the gooks???

My soul will perish once this beta is over.
>>
Anyone got their key?
>>
>>121459773
Im still there lol. You might be mixing me up with wrong anon. Im a rogue.
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>>121459465
this is best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdv2rC_zzBw
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I'LL WHORE MYSELF OUT FOR A TRIDENT

If you're on Gab, I'll pay you, then I'll kiss you, then I'll show you my butt, then you can humiliate me in front of everyone and leave.

please, I need that trident.
>>
>>121459776
I fucking wish
>>
>>121459465
I like the second song in the Verkti square areas but I can't find it on the soundtrack
>>
>>121459797
Me
>>
>>121455114
>mfw wiz
>mfw they'll never know

yeah, fuck BRbarians
>>
Anyone who wanna go after Arde let's meet at channel 2?
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>>121458252
It's pretty fucking solid up to like 120-130. Mage Tower is a really nice place and the zones up to Main chamber work well. After that I think the level of polish goes down a lot and it's not just translation. I'd expect this level range to be really well done since it's been the target of the betas since kcbt1 but for some reason there's still a lot of shit that doesn't fly in my book. The later beta content being so bad makes me really worried about the shape of 200+ content.

Class balance is what it is. They're working on it but since the Barbarian/Highlander reworks I haven't seen as much progress as I expected. A lot of problems haven't been addressed at all and they're trying to fix Archer classes in all the wrong ways. For some reason they don't seem to get that the flat scaling they have in place isn't going to work 200+ at all. I think they're blind to that fact because they've been testing 1-200 too much and the later stages not nearly enough.

Field bosses for the most part have too much hp and them being able to oneshot just about anything feels to be justified with the instant ress with iCoins which I thought would only be a beta thing. It makes me afraid they'll keep the ress feature for release. The bosses also don't seem to require any sort of tactics and instead you can just keep hammering your face into them until they die.

Quest bosses work fine for the most part. There's some minor balance to be done with numbers and skill cooldowns like some bosses spamming their add summon for instance.

I'm going to keep playing it and I hope to see a lot of changes in the future but at the same time I'm afraid they'll just push it out the gates way too unfinished and things will never get truly fixed. It could potentially be my next big title that I will spend years playing but it could also end up as another of those forgotten titles.
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>wake up
>chat not works
ARE THEY FUCKING SERIOUS
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>>121459776
There's absolutely no reason to have 2 different regions doing the same beta testing.

It just costs them money
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>>121459465
>fav part
S.F.A's songs from V to X.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKxMGzVxwUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32EqgynP_Uk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zqP-0Q7YfU
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>>121459648
I'm really fucking curious as to what kind of imbeciles shit up market with those prices. Are those BR and SEA? I have never seen anyone from Yurop being this retarded with auction houses ever.
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>>121460049
Yeah it's not like they'll take our feedback seriously anyway
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>>121455547
You sure you're mixing shit up?

C3 is fucking beast exactly because of the stat share of Life Line
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What is the point of Transpose. You just sit at the same hp unless you have a healer near you.
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Why dont the gooks just disable shout FUCK
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>>121460157
Wasn't life line only works with 1 party member?
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>>121459160
My exact point, would you want to buy a weapon that's +0 and 0 potential when you recieve it? You have no way to specify what kind of weapon you want to buy.
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>All those overly specialized builds

Do you guys even hybrids?
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>>121459847
this
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>>121460264

B R A V O
r
a
v
o
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>>121460157
Life Line does basically nothing unless you have a consistent group you run with literally all the time and everyone in it plans their stats around it being there constantly, which will never happen.
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>>121455943
Get a chronomancer, lel
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>>121460237
Nope
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>>121460264
How's that grind going?
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Alrighty, everyone. What do cool kids use to make polls right now, I have an urgent one to make for /tosg/
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>>121459549
Oh god why?? Hopefully some kind anon has just acquired a spare one.
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>>121460048
It's died twice in the last hour
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Did Gabija dieded?
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>>121460338
I try not to think of how long I'll have to be here in order to correct my mistake of misusing the cards.
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>>121459560
>>121459704
We need more people.
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Does anyone know if a Linker can chain himself to his pets/summons? I can't tell if aiming for necromancer with c3 Linker would be worth it or not just to have pets to help soak damage.
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Server Down?
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>>121460468
I'll come.
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>>121460264
Teach me how to use the cards so I dont fall for the same trick
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>Learning Plate Mastery level 36
I have lost control of my life and I must hit 50 Plate Mastery as a wizard class
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>>121460315
Life Line also gives a 10% chance to reduce damage with attribute
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>>121460329
Giving 300 Int to a Hoplite with that Finestra attribute is about as good as it gets.
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>>121460561
>leveling useless attribute
Just give me money instead.
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>>121458750
Look at your stats.
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>>121460329
Is it really worth it though? 50% uptime seems questionably useful, is giving int to phys classes and str/dex to magical classes really that good?
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>>121460717
It's like 34 HP per level which greatly reduces my concern of needing to put many points in CON, and works especially well in duels against any physical class
It might not be amazing, but it's nice to have, especially with plate CON or HP bonuses, and I'm not starving for magic defense or SP at all. The extra stamina is also entertaining
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>>121460468
Did it start yet? im running there right now
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>>121458252
Fun game but needs a lot of polish.
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>>121460786
Considering I've burned bosses within the 30 seoncds. Yes.
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>physical link
Literally what is the point.
You are literaly just gimping yourself and your squishies.
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>>121460673
>full int and full spr build casters in party
>full str and full dex build phys dps
>full con tank
>everyone gets a fuckton of stats
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>kubas 10% and game crashes
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>>121461080
So it wasn't just me then.
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>>121459023
Rho?
>>
Am I missing something about this 50 dungeon? People were talking about how if you run it 5 times you hit 60 but I've gotten like 10-15% per run. Are we supposed to be clearing the side paths?

When do I stop running this 5 times a day, by the way?
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>>121461019
fuck off
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>>121461181
Clear the whole fucking thing you baka
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>>121460264
I forgot to ask.

if you were on my shoes, what class would you take for R6?
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So, will i affect lowbies exp gain in dungeon if im 30-40 levels above them?
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Any point in running to Kubas now?
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>>121461268
He reset, you should come.
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dead game holy shit this beta is boring this game is fucking simple and boring 80+ unique classes my ass

never buy into hype
savior me from the bugs and lag
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>>121461241
Yes.
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How do you cancel your !!WORDS?
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>>121461402
!!<empty space>
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>>121461402
just "!! "
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>>121461402
Type !! with a blank message.
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>>121461214

Alright. Is it still worth doing at, say, 75?
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I saw one of the threads that centurion was available. Is it really though?
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How do I get there?
>>
Where can I find materials for Fletcher arrows?

I'm thinking about creating one, but want to know how sustainable it can be.

What about wugushi? It seems it consumes stuff such as poison pots, but where can those be obtained and in what quantity?
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>>121461584
Continue the story
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>>121461584
finish story quest
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have they started distributing the keys yet? signed up with 3 different accounts... nothing so far ;_;
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>>121461584
>level 133
>questing
OH BOY
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>>121461636
The wugushi materials are pretty negligible.

The cost of each skill is low and 1 poison pot from the master restores 200/1000 for 750 silver
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>>121461721
You can do the quests and just not use the cards
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>>121450918
yeah str and int need some work

int is fucking great on some skills but horrible on others

e.g. zaibas is basically like 30x int if you use both charges lol
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>>121461812
This.
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>sitting at work all day
>friday
>no customers
>bring my old 6870 in
>doesn't fit, too big
fuck. I so hoped this would fit. I just wanted to play ToS all day since we'll be slow as fuck.
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>Barbarian class
>No axes

Fuck that shit
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>>121461815
They should lower the base damage from the skills and have a 2*stat or 3*stat.

Eg. 2*int + 100 for Zaibas at level 5. It's 166 + int now.
This makes it weak at first, but grows stronger as you add more.
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>>121461962
They'd be just 2h swords with different skin.
Not a problem with me desu.

2h axe that looks like an anchor when?
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>Beta 1, Brazilians take our fucking codes
>Beta 2, They take even more of our codes.
>Beta 2, They get their own fucking server.
>Beta 2, They get more fucking keys?
>And i'm still here since beta 1 waiting for a key, god have you forsaken me?
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>Some madman put a Skullbow on the market for 140k

Thank god i dont have to farm for a good level 120 weapon
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>>121460315
>which will never happen.
Well, that's why you kinda don't go full support classes playing SOLO

God forbid having a guild or a fixed group
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>>121460960
But how many seoncds did it take without the ability, and how much would it have taken with 2 circles of a different supportive class?
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>get Pentamion recipe
>can't craft it for some reason

ebin
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>>121461238
We have a fencer so it's your duty to be the centurion tester
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>>121460786
Yes, there's also the possibility of going PURE stat and sharing your sub-stats for maximum dps output.

And that only the offensive factor, there's the defensive, like everyone getting a fuckton hp, sp, def, MAGIC DEF, evasion, etc
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Is it possible they prolong beta due to all fuck ups?
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>>121460717

Is there really a "useless" attribute though?

Can't you end up acquiring every single attribute in the game given enough time?

is there a cap?
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>the density in demon prison 2
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>>121462207
why so many brazilians?
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>>121462403
put it on the market for a big price and cancel
receive and it should work
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>>121462518
Nostalgia for Ragnarok Online causes pinoys and BRs to flock to the game.
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>>121462576
that sounds pretty nasty, why do they love anime so much anyway?
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>>121462534
kek it worked thanks
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How do i know if i got a key? ;_;
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>>121462413
Isn't it easily possible for the skill to not give much at all because your party members have fairly similar stats? What if everyone is mostly dex?

Wouldn't you yourself going pure con or some shit gimp you in some way?
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Why the fuck does mob density in this game suck ass? Can't even grind because I have to walk for 3 mins just to find 2 monsters.
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Is the To Entrance of Kateen Forest quest that you get after you complete the mage tower supposed to lead up to something? It disappeared as soon as I entered the Kateen Foerst.
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>>121462534
I got Vubbe blood in my equip that can't be sold or moved. Any work around for that?
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>>121462413
>get low level friend
>link him with your gigantic alpha dick stats
>set party exp share to individual
>let him fuck shit up

P-power level? Does it work?
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>>121462576
Pinoys are ok. I know plenty of great pinoy players.
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>>121461962
>Monk class
>No knuckles
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>>121462869
http://toswiki.treeofsaviorgame.com/mechanic/experience
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>>121462869
If you want to be a 100% STR wizard, I guess?
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>>121462818
No, it's just to give you a direction where to go after it. Makes no sense since the area is 106 and the ending of Mage Tower is 125.
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>Join a group, go in to dungeon
>The crowd outside is so large they give up trying to enter and disband the party anyway
>Get another group that added me thinking a Cryomancer was a tank
>"It's okay, I'm a Hoplite so I can tank it"
>End up tanking it because Snow Rolling apparently generates the most hilarious amount of aggro in comparison to everyone else
>My reward for the day was yet another card
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>>121462961
That's what I thought. And yeah it makes no sense, I've long since cleared that area.
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>>121462403
What did you get the recipe from?
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>>121462923
>Squire class
>No tits
>>
Just got into hoplite, can somebody explain to me how stabbing works? What does the button prompt do and what button exactly is it (on joypad)? Because W sure does nothing
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>>121458765
Is hitting rest every 10 seconds for faster SP regen an intended mechanic? Frankly its the only way I do anything in a reasonable amount of time.
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This game still needs area with less mobs that gives far more exp per kill be it for solo or party play.
I mean you could go full retard and increase the mob density like in demon prison but that would only matter for aoe spammers.
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>>121463072
What key you assigned stabbing to

Hold it
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>>121463117
Not when it's contested as fuck, you don't want that. You want high mob density not just because of AoE, but because otherwise the competition against everyone is fucking awful
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>5% per room clear
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>>121463023
130 instance, the talt cube (bird boss)
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>>121462926
That tells you nothing about anon's scenario
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>>121462408
I was actually thinking of going Doppelsoldner. I don't have synergy with anything, so I might as well go full retard.

Centurions aren't even available, right?
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>>121463191
one word: channels
>>
Things you didn't know about in the game until recently

>The staff has a secondary attack that lets you melee instead of shooting a bolt out.
I can now hit my fireballs into things
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>>121463023
>>121463240
I got one from necroventer foe btw
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>>121463261
Last I heard they are rank 7
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>>121463234
Hey, hey anon, hey

Release will have 300+ levels to grind
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>>121463284
Channels don't solve the issue of a low mob density zone having high competition in a game where a lot of people end up in the same maps. Channels actually did exist pre-level 80 and they don't resolve the issue of contest. Chapel was good not because it had channels but because it had incredible mob density in the altar rooms on 2F
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>>121463261
Some anon posted a picture where he could pick centurian at c6

Dunno if bug or real. But the pic was legitimate and i didnt stick around to see if it worked.
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>>121463234
5% per room is alot actually
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Keybinds menu added to kCBT. Thank god.
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>>121463430
It made him a fencer
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>>121462207
They didn't "take" your codes, its your own fault for being slower than a 3rd world shitstain playing from his mudhut.
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>>121463485
Damn.
>>
how do i build a thaumaturge?
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>>121463438
that only makes things worse.
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>>121463443
>aukuras

does anyone have any actual numbers on that skill? it seems kind of.. not as good as other krivis skills like capped divine stigma or zalciai


does anyone have a good level for daino so i can level other shit?
>>
Is it better to Just get 1 point of deprotected Zone and pump the attribute duration to 5? Cure needs the points more.

Also is Asperion worth it? Is Montrance a 1 pt wonder as Resurrection?


Also cant a pardoner Jew it up a c1?
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>>121463443
Aw shit

Time to log onto kCBT. I haven't played since the wipe
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>>121463443
about time
these lazy azn niggas
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>>121463576
>leveling up cure in a leveling priest build
>>
>>121463576
Pardoner needs C2 to set up shop. So no jew 4 u until you grind more jew.

Also you better be real fucking careful what class you take prior. If you pick something with shit skills your boned.
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>>121463645
the damage is pretty good
>>
>>121463669
Cleric>Priest>Priest>Paladin>Pardoner>Pardoner?
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>>121463795
What skills do you think people will buy?
>>
>>121463591
How longs the kCBT 3 going to go on for?
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how the fuck the Simony work?
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can confirm arde ddagger increases bwa kayiman's damage
this was so worth the 800k
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>DC just before necroventer
>When I come out the dungeon has finished
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>absolutely looking forward to this
>get the busiest schedult ever
>haven't played till yesterday
I think I'll just play a bit with friends, to get them into it and then just wait for release.
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>>121463795
The oracle skill that summons mobs in the map on one place is the most OP.
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>>121463878
Indefinitely
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>>121463795
Be reeeaaaaalllll fucking careful

Skills from classes no one plays but needs would be best. Like chrono. Not that we can so that in beta but still.
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>24k codes being sent out
>asking steam for more
I hope you like lag boys, these monkeys are going to join their friends instead of playing on the new server.
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>>121463858
Blessing
Resist Elements
Resurrection
Saftey Zone
Restoration
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>healing in dungeon
>put Laima and Zemyna down
>Put ten heal tiles down every few 20 seconds
>alt tab

And people said no pseudo AFK class like Bard was going to be in this game.
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>>121463968
Chrono is wizard, anon.
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>>121464039
Half of those can be gotten with a priest in a party though.
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>>121463902
How did ya get the money?
>>
>Ridiculous prices on squire repairs/upgrades

If your fucking rates are higher than the default repairman yall can go fuck yourselves
>>
>>121462031
that would make pumping str or int mandatory

I like it the way it is, everyone invests in spr and some con, physical damage types invest in some dex to taste, and str/int becomes the stat you pump after your other stats are squared away, which enjoys the full benifit of having maxed atributes and +50-60% bonus from rankups.

I think by level 600 most people would have invested around 200-300 into str or int respectively, thats how i see it going. Its not that they are useless, its that you arent supposed to pump just one stat, and str and int are what you invest in last to give you a damage boost after your skills and attributes are maxed.
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>>121463946
You know they removed that skill right?
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Players on gajiba, how much do cronewt bones sell for?
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>>121463969
Can't I hope for a few of them starting over with their friends in the new server?
>>
Regarding Sadhu, can you actually do anything while using that debuff skill, or are you just stuck there?
Cuz all videos I see of it imply that you stand there and cast the circle while other players wail on foes who fall within it. And the circle & its effect are gone as soon as you stop maintaining it.

Is that how it is?
>>
>>121464106

Goddamn loli Shinoa is too cute.
>>
>>121464190
No, of course not.
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>>121464196
I sold a dozen for about 5.9k-ish earlier
>>
When can we expect the game to be released?
>>
>>121464229
I'm br and I'm doing exactly what he said, fuck yuo gringo ehuaehuaehueah
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>>121464312
2017
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>>121463961
Is access still being handed out? I've learned enough Hangul to be good enough to have basic chats with people.
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>>121464234
Purple hair when?
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>>121464312
Late 2016/early 2017
Any earlier and the game will be a mess.
>>
>doing a tanky fighter build
>already has 6k health but has 70 strength
Do I need to bump it up to at least 10k if tenet dungeon fucks me up I can't fathom the higher ones
>>
>>121463029

is that weapon just a stick with a chain?
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>bokor zombies vs necr skeletons
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>>121464126
like literally 30 miinutes of farming chapel with zombie train
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>>121462207
>blaming monkeys for being stupid

I'd totally agree with you if we didnt had three fucking days of "click here to win key"
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What is this thing?
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I am lv71 with 120k silver.
Will I be able to buy an Arde Dagger once I reach lv75?
How much does it cost? I am figuring it's about 300~400k
I really hope the market will be online today, I have crafted semi-good-tier equips that would bring me 10k each
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>>121464343
I wish.
It's 2016.
>>
Why is the density at higher levels so fucking awful?
>>
>>121464621
900k is the cheapest on the market right now
>>
So what do you even do with these boss cards?
>>
>>121464635

Wait til you see Demon Prison 2
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>>121464621
m8, people were selling it for 150k a couple days ago.
It's really not hard to get from the lv 90 dungeon. I'd say 1/20 chance.
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>>121464621
Arde is going for 700+k depending on time of the day
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>>121464642
B-but I am on Lamia.
With everyone being High-tier already, there must be tons of market competition because lots of them farm Arde daggers. I was hoping for oversaturation.

>>121464724
Oh god

>>121464682
Oh yes
>>
>>121464642
>>121464724
Wow, people are jews. I bought mine for 160k like 3 days ago.
>>
When should you start doing dungeons?
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>>121464621
Depending on your server I could gift it to you.
>>
Anyone wanna try for some quick 90 dungeon runs?
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>>121464805
as soon as you reach the required level for one then do it for about 10 levels
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>>121464678
Is it good or bad? I'm in the Owl Forest and failed a quest to kill 15 enemies within a time limit because I couldn't find enough in time.
>>
Someone post the outfits' pic please?
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>>121464868
Just go to the upwards area.
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>>121464801
Arde dagger has reached meme status like Vubbe gloves is why
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>>121463902
I'd love to buy one, if Market was online.
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>>121464805
Do it the moment you hit the required level. And keep doing it until you get like only 70% per run (or just ten levels if you dont like partying). You must grab at every levelling opportunity early on to ensure less grinding later.

>>121464835
I am on Lamia, familyname is Nagita, and I am happily paying you all my 120k silver. Who knows when the market is online again, but Arde dagger is the most important thing for me right now.
>>
Most useless skill in the game?
http://www.tosbase.com/database/skills/41008/
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>>121464312
Korean open beta next month. Expect it late 2016. I wish it was early 2017 though because I doubt IMC is competent enough to iron out the bugs that showed up in kCBT3 or iCBT2 by then.
>>
Anyone else come across someone's boss loot when wandering around the map?
I managed to grab a bunch of silver and the weapon drop because it was left for too long?
Anyone know what causes this?
>>
>>121465065
I like see mobs cast it on people and they literally just ignore it, only to die a couple seconds later
>>
>>121465094
they're ranged and were too far away from the loot then just walked away, or died as the boss died
>>
Which are the most gimmicky weapons in the game right now? Stuff like the Toy Hammer, Gamble Spear, or the Arde Dagger?
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>>121465094
I once lagged on the harpybitch's boss fight after killing it. I couldn't get my loot at all and just stood there as other people started getting everything.
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>>121465150
How would you deal with it?
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>>121465065
>circle 2 when they release it
>put on someone in pvp then just run away for 20 seconds

It could also be usefull if they have tough enemies in the high hundreds that don't die in 2 hits like everything else.
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>>121465230
Kill the caster.
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What's the basic OP barb build?
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>>121465076
Usually with korean things you will need your SSID or something to register (including league of legends accounts), everything online there can be traced to you.
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>want to roll pardoner
>basically forced into c3 krivis or c3 priest or else ill just be subpar
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>>121465174
Nothing gimmicky about the arde dagger at all, just a poorly designed mechanic Basically just means that 2h anything is fucking trash because your offhand can work as a stat token. Bows are useless because why bother with them when you can crossbow it up with a dagger
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>>121465405
What does this have to do with a possible release date on international?
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>>121462926
>individual exp share

so?
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What even drops Arde Dagger
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>trolls spamming zombies around Main quest NPC so that it cannot be interacted with anymore
>map only has a single channel
>everyone crying

Man, good thing I already did it or else I would gladly join the hate train
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>>121465076
ah but here's the thing tho RO didn't actually take off until war of emperium update, before that point it was a normal MMO
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>>121465430
Does that mean I'm better off going with a 1-hander as memelander and the dagger? Wao.
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https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/high-level-grinding-issues/105034/26
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Total noob to steam here, how do you stop the steam client itself from autoupdating?
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>>121463029
Whitesmith best.
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>>121465428
Take at least one Krivis beforehand for the +buff limit else you'll be wasting your buffs.
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>>121465430
How does the arde work with like, 1h partisan? Or rather, how does the ~1xx fire element factor into anaything (say, stabbing)?
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>>121465583
Where are these many maps? Because I'm level 84 and it's been the exact same linear quest driven shit since level 1.
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>>121465574
Do you want an extra 153 damage to all your attacks?
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>>121456037
pls die
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>>121465549
>tos with woe
Now that's a clusterfuck that I want to see
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>>121465660
it works
with
everything
it applies to everything
if you can equip it
it's good
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>>121465485
Lv90 dungeon boss
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So I hear people saying you should be saving your lvl 6 cards or something? Can anyone explain to me the logic behind this? Don't cards give the same EXP at all times anyway?
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You should only save your cards if you're still in range of getting good dungeon exp.
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>>121465713
>Rogue sits in his invisibility and autoattack everyone to death
>Enemy team cant do anything with this, unless they have scout c3
gg
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>>121465783
The logic is thus: Exp cards always give you the same EXP, mobs dont if they're too far under you. Mob density is an issue in some later maps, so you save your cards to get past those times by grinding on same level mobs instead of popping them and then being stuck grinding in shitty maps.
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Cryo or Pyro for Thaumaturge?
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>>121465891
meant for >>121465783
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>>121465979
pyro
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So I've played a few classes now, and I was just wondering if other people who have played these classes would tend to agree or disagree -

Cryomancer - Why even exist? way to long of a cooldown for one decent skill.

Pyschokino - Not impressive. If there psychic pressure works with wiz2 surespell it could be a decent one skill wonder.

Highlander - Very similar to Psychokino in that they have one extremely good skill with the rest lacking, though I would say their skills are better all around. Cartar Stroke I would say is probably the strongest single skill you can get early.

Archer/scout(c1) - I include scout in this because it was basically playing archer c3. I feel bad for anyone who goes scout. I hope going archer(c1) ranger(c3) then something else interesting is better, because jesus fuck archer classes seem shit.
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>>121465783
You can either spam your cards now and feel overpowered for 3 maps but then must resume grinding in the hardest and hardest environment possible. If you stay low, you can snatch exp from the enemies that are easily killable and bring exp. Bear with it, use the cards to jump right out of the dangerous grinding map decline (1channel, little mobspawn, thousands of restless KSer) into the next main quest requirement.
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>>121463902
gave one away before i learned the value :/
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>>121465979
Cryo
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>>121464916
That's because it's literally the best thing you can wear in your offhand before 170.
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>>121465663
It's bullshit.

The game's quality slowly drops after Tenet/Saule and then eventually goes into full grinding mode.
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>>121465715
what classes can dual wield?
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Anyone 160+ on Zemyna wants to do Second Demon Prison grind party?
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Need to more people for 130 dungeon runs.
2 more slots, preferably a healer.
Please post IGN here.
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>>121465675
It depends. I'm still not quite sure how weapon damage interacts with skills. If it really just adds the damage with no multiplier just like with autoattacks, then it will be better to use a 150 average damage 1 hander than a 250 average damage 2 hander.
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>>121466190
I wouldnt mind the grind if the mob density wasn't so shit.
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>>121466070
>Cryo
>Bad
>Ice spikes and the wall of danmaku

>Psycho
>Bad
>The greatest spell in the game, psychic pressure which more than makes up for Telekinesis being complete fucking trash
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>>121463795
>Paladin
No, You've got to have C3 Priest now.
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>>121466195
Any class that uses a one hand weapon. I'm hoplite and say screw shields now, the arde dagger is too good.
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>>121466070
Cryo would be pretty good with lower cd to be honest.

Ice wall can deal massive damage with some combo and ice pike is strong. Ice bolt is decent in party since frozen target seems to take additional damage from any source.

It will also probably a far more solid pvp choice if you're into that. I think they just need a few tweaks.
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>>121466070
cryo has amazing aoes
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>>121466070
Psycho can steal peoples anvils while they're upgrading and make them lose cash, the classes existence is justified purely through that
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>>121466289
would be okay with a highlander? or should i stick with 2h sword?
i have an unused golden falchion.
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does the pyro staff skill act as bonus magic attack for skills? Or does it only apply to auto attacks?
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Fucking Finally.
Necro or Alchemist?
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>>121466190
>Turning into a grinding game
>Quality drop
NOPE
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>>121466459
Necro
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>>121454003
What the fuck are matt and patt? Could you explain a bit more clearly?
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>>121466459
A L C H E M I S T
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>>121466459
Necro for damage, Alchemist for jewing.
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>>121466081
ive never understood this
dont mobs in higher maps give better exp, same as quests?

I can understand during dungeon levels as the exp lowers as you get higher but still
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Sex Goddess

>>121466459

Necro for the dirty pole
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>>121466190
>>121466190
>>121466190
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>>121466459
only 5 hours in C3 linker?
that was fast.
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>>121466538
Not him but matt is Magical attack (Usually written as Matk) and patt is Physical attack(Patk)
Ele is elemental of course
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>>121466459
ALCHEMIST PLEASE
>>
Have the keys been handed out already? I am anxiously waiting for my retarded best friend to receive one.
>>121466459
Alchemist for Jew
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>>121466538
>What the fuck are matt and patt?
He's a fucking idiot who doesn't use matk and patk to refer to magic attack and phys attack.
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>>121466538
Matthew and Patrick values.
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>>121466258
Telekinesis is hilarious and fun even if its not technically impressive.
Psychic pressure with the stun attribute is pure unmitigated bullshit though. Too bad about the CD.
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>>121466629
I spent way more than 5 fucking hours on C3 Linker.
Anyways, Alchemist or Nerco is pretty tied. Will tally them up and then decide.
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Is this game fun by yourself?
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Guyse I'm a lvl 90 healbitch with str/dex. What will lvl 90 dungeon be like? Can I ackchually solo it? Does it worth it exp/drop wise?
I haven't even done any lvl 50 dung runs.

t. Clueless
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>>121466603
the difference is not the exp of the monsters but how easy it is to grind them. I would gladly kill indefinite swarms of enemies for 0.05% each than going to places and fight over a single enemy worth 0.2% that can't even stay alive for 3 secs due to 3 campers.
I am not yet at the grinding process in Demon Prison but I am grindly right now at 0.08% per monster, this is good grind.
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>>121466631
>>121466669
Wait so let me try to understand what he was saying, he was trying to explain how for some reason weapons with less physical attack deal more damage than weapons with more magical attack while in OOB, am I right?
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>>121466852

No. And the more you play the less fun it gets. A few classes are also basically torture to play solo. And by a few I mean every class that's not a Swordsman.
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Does fire property attack give fire damage on all my attacks
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Does mage tower 4F have a warp statue anywhere?
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>>121466913
>krivis
>priest
>torture to solo with
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>>121466873
It drops Arde Dagger and can get you from 90 to 100+ in no time. So yes.
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>>121466603

The exp gained at higher levels isn't worth the added difficulty of killing those mobs.

You can kill a swarm of lower level enemies with no effort and get 0.02% per kill. Or you can go and kill one ball breakingly hard enemy that will take 30 seconds or more to kill and almost certainly get your health low, for 0.08% exp.

Exp distribution vs difficulty of enemy is fucked. So is enemy scaling in general.
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>>121466873
That horrendous typing

You can probably solo it but it'll be painfully slow but it might be worth it since doing 5 runs from 90 got me straight to level 100
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>>121466913
lies
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>>121467027
Lailah's expressions do things to me.
>>
Anywhere to grind at 102?
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/imc-staff-we-humbley-request-answers/106966
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>>121466913
Well I have a clusterfuck schedule so playing with somebody online isn't very viable.
And I don't know if I can get friends to play it.

Do the people from /vg/ play together?
I wouldn't mind playing a healer/buffer/support, but as you've said that's not very fun by yourself and a solo player is really constrained in class, skill choices.
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>>121466905
>>121466905
No, it seems that PATK has something do with OOB when it gets boosted. Staves and rods are full MATK, maces are both. A mace with less MATK does more in OOB when boosted by Zalciai.

Based on his observation I'd say it's possible Zalciai combo adds some of your PATK on top of MATK to your OOB attacks.
>>
FIX MOB DENSITY AFTER TENET CHAPEL!
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>>121466852
A lot of fun. You'll be having a lot of fun destroying everything that moves, get every loot you want. Well, until you get to lv 70 where it becomes significantly harder to onehit enemies even with skills alone.
I am swordsman.
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>>121466070
>Pyschokino (sic) - Not impressive.

ayy this nigga didn't experience being permastunned by psychic pressure
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>>121467086
You can help me improve my english skills by pointing out my mistakes :^)
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>>121467171

>Do the people from /vg/ play together?

Barely. Only a few people are still playing and their playtime and levels are too spread out for them to really play together.
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>2nd floorof main chamber
>Ice niggas and tanky as fuck blue stoulet mage that takes an eternity to kill
>Only the blue stoulet mage counts for anything quest related so far
Dear lord
>>
Speaking of Achejewing, how does... gem roasting work?

Does a gem receive only the effect of the last roasting performed? Can it be done more than once, or are you screwed if you got it done by some guy who invested only one skill point?
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>>121466873
I-I'd go with you if you're on Laima.
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>>121466070
>Cryomancer - Why even exist? way to long of a cooldown for one decent skill.
Seemed to have decent synergy with elementalist.
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>>121467157

IMC almost never directly answer any feedback and suggestions. Infact, they probably don't even read them.

Even the Koreans got sick of this shit and had to start calling them out on it, and all they got in return was a generic "thanks for the feedback" message.
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>>121467276
It removes the negative effects from those blue, green, yellow and red gems the last I saw it.
>>
As a c3 swordsman what would be the best choice before corsair?
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>>121467280
I'm on the Gabija. :^(
>>
Where's the best place to farm gems?
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>>121467178
or you know... OPEN MORE FUCKING CHANNELS AFTER LEVEL 70 JESUS CHRIST!
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>>121467382
I... I figured that part out, anon.
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>>121467254
I thought so. I mean most of the screenshots just show of solo players.

Why didn't people make a database with playernames with their timeszones and playtimes attatched?
I assumed this was a nobrained for this kind of game.
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>>121467280
whered you get the maple leaf?
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>>121467213
Cheeky cunt
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>>121466070
R E M O V E I C E B L A S T why would you want to willingly unfreeze someone in a PvE or PvP environment

Other than that I have no issues. Cyro is going to be great in pvp
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>>121467412
YOU FOOL!!
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>>121464571
what chapel

constructor chapel? there's nothing there that drops good shit
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>>121467394
>c3 swordsman
why
Best corsair path is sword2>barb2>corsair2 or sword2>hoplite2>corsair2
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>>121467157
>all of those people saying "it's a beta"
the game is going into open beta in 2 months
these issues need to be fixed urgently or the game will die
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/the-way-classes-are-designed-to-fall-off-every-3-circles/104437
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>>121467394
>c3 swordsman

reroll
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>>121467653
If I had a silver for every time someone told me that.
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>>121467394
the best choice would be to reroll
one circle is just not enough. The good stuff for nearly every class is in circle 2. Just take whatever based on the weapon type you want to focus is.
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/suggestion-flatten-the-dex/

What are your thoughts on this?
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>>121467534
Why? Everything is fine.
Market never works tho, but that's it.
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>>121467498
Canada
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>>121467756
That's not an option.
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>>121467798
>Everything is fine.
>have several big money recipes and can't craft them

STAY AWAY FROM GABIJA
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>>121467786

Stats as a whole need reworking.

A key sign the stat system isn't working is when almost every build is literally just pumping a single stat.
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>>121467883
Where the heck are these money-spinning recipes that everyone but me seems to be swimming in? I'm level 110 and am perpetually destitute.
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>>121467883
>STAY AWAY FROM GABIJA
Not him, but what about it?
Isn't it the server that /vg/ plays on? What's different?
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>>121467942

There is basically no blue or higher armor between levels 120 and 170. So most recipes you get are basically vendor trash. They sell for anywhere from 10k to 30k a piece.
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>>121468005
Mobs rarely ever drop recipes for me. Do you mean you just go around questing and recipes just drop like crazy? Or are there specific mobs to farm?
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>>121467961
Nothing is wrong people are just spouting memes
>>
I don't see how an alche could possibly make money in the long run when live hits.
Pardoner and Squire though, will always be needed.
>>
>>121467498
Level 2 chest in the barb job change map, I got it really early when I was a total nub.

>>121467883
>>121467961
Join us on Lamia It's just as bad, the market never works and its laggy as fuck even with the BR's gone.
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>>121468068

Later on you'll be grinding a lot of mobs. Even though the drop rate is low you'll be going back to town with tons of recipes. I think the most I went back with was like 49.
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>>121468097
The potions they make are better than the ones in the shop.
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>>121468068
Not him but yes recipes drop like candy for me from just questing
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>>121468134
miners village?
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>>121467394
peltasta so you can swash buckle as a pirate
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>>121468097
Have you seen the range of Alch potions there are? Cooldown reduction 50% sounds incredible.
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>>121467868
Okay, you are right.
My opinion is that though you will never be able to completely recover from being sword3, you can either think of taking Hoplite for Finestra and 2 dmg skills that might carry you through - or take Barb for its Overheat dmg skills.
It's important to have some dmg skills now because corsair's first circle only has Dust Devil.
Pommel Beat and Double Slash can't even compare.
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Someone mind explaining me the purpose of the Obtain Item Box atribute, and what do additional levels of it do?
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>>121466459
Since it was tied and no one else gave options one what, I chose Necro. Sorry it took so long because the Advancement quest is awful.
>>
So the lottery is over. Anyone have spare key?
>>
Where do you grind at 125
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>>121468191
East Siauliai Woods
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>>121468134
Holy fuck this just made me realize this game actually looks like a normal game when the BRs are gone.
>>
Did the developers add Lithuanian letters like " ė, ą, ų, į, ž" etc. to the game yet?
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>>121467394
just get 3circle of another class. You don't need to fucking reroll like every faggot here says

>>121468391
fuck off back to reddit
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>>121468228
Market will be flooded with those pots in the long run, while the others can still make money out of their ability to have utility in dungeons, especially the squire.
>>
This game is fun for a beta, but I don't think it will survive after launch unless they decide to make some drastic changes.
>>
http://pastebin.com/YwxfcVDZ

I started compling a list of all the bugs and changes that (may) need to happen and plan to send it at the end of the beta to IMC (and hope it won't fall on deaf ears).

Feel free to point out what you discovered or make a document (anything that feels convenient) so I can have enough material to report.

May sound silly or hopeful, but I personally enjoy the game and would like it to not die in the first month
>>
>>121468253
I've yet to try barb or highlander or make it past 70, so I'm not really sure what awaits me.
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>>121468436
mage tower
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>>121468335
you move 5 faster after you open a treasure chest, lasts longer with more attributes.
>>
>>121468519

>Market will be flooded with those pots in the long run

Not likely with the current level bottleneck.

I'd be surprised if we get 5 alchemists per server before the beta ends.
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>>121468534

This game needs 2 more years o dev, actually. It's a fucking joke to have a game like that hyped out for the year of 2015/2016.
>>
So I finally got the zombie train going.
I'm fucking stealing kills from swordfags.

Healslut's revenge is real. HEALSLUT'S REVENGE IS REAL.

No more getting on my knees to suck your massive throbbing highlander cock, which causes me to drool just thinking about it, and makes me thank god for the bounty I'm about to receive. No. THOSE DAYS ARE OVER.
>>
>>121468382
good
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>>121467394
Forget Corsair. You need 2 barb circles in it for it to be good.

I would suggest you go Hoplite the remaining 3 circles.
>>
>>121468382
What cards you gonna roll with?
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>>121468572
Fuck I knew it, wish there were more channels because everyone is there.
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>>121468228
Please link to a list of alch pots
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>>121468514
He said he wants to change into a Corsair later on.
"Best choice" was invalid the moment he hit sword3.
Rerolling is harsh but if he wants to be Hoplite3 or Barb3, that's good as well, though he must abandon Corsair.
>>
>>121468335
You become a nigga and run fast every time you steal something.
>>
>>121468546
>May sound silly or hopeful, but I personally enjoy the game and would like it to not die in the first month
I feel the same, but they made some terribad decisions, that's exactly what's happening unless they keep an open mind.
>>
>>121468580
I'm talking about in live anon
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>>121468595
The problem with the Zombie train is the investment it takes to stay competitive.
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>>121468592
Devs actually deliver when the community agrees on something. They might be able to finish in early 2017.
We should all become lejuun/personal army and push some ideas instead of just endlessly complaining here.
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>>121468662
I am white, so it's called plundering.
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>>121462403
>Pentamion

I heard that trading the recipe allows it to be crafted. If you're on Gabi, do you want to trade mine for yours?
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>>121468686

In which case, there would be even less. If we were using actual rates and not increased rates, most people wouldn't be rank 4 yet.
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>>121468705
They have absolutely no intent on listening to Westerners m8.
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>>121468546
quote the op or something so people can put it into the op for subsequent threads

and make it a google docs or something so people can add stuff themselves. you can make a locked spreadsheet and leave an unlocked one for people to write stuff in
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>>121468595
Chocolate ?
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>>121468621
No idea, I still need Skill points to even USE Necro. I'll experiment and shit tomorrow after work.
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>>121468662
I am still wondering, how does plundering even work?
You got that chill flag going and kill bitches left and right and then enemies not only spawn shits'n giggles but also chests full of hopes'n dreams?
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>>121468134
>Join us on Lamia It's just as bad, the market never works and its laggy as fuck even with the BR's gone.
Why split the community?
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>>121468775
But they did before lad.
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>>121468775
What's the point then ? If the game ends up dead they'll just say "it's YOUR fault guys" and just take their leave ?
>>
https://forum.treeofsavior.com/t/archer-classes-feedback-r-i-p/90381/218
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>>121468851
> this server is closed.
no fags allowed.
>>
>>121468820
There's no community, It's impossible to currently maintain a sense of community.
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>>121467649
only OP post was good, all other are shit. I mean OP was right, all classes are just stepping stone for end game classes. Except for class like Wizard C3 where it got alot of utilities.
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>>121468382
>lethargy
>sleep
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>>121468772
>in the long run
>>
Oh shit can't get into Gabjia. Are the other servers fine?
>>
>>121468942
I don't use them anymore unless I'm with my Monk friend who is striking shit. Even then Sleep is never used. They don't matter anymore.
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>>121468893
Lack of guilds?
Friend and party system that is beyond shit?
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>>121469031
A game that actively punishes you for partying with other players?
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>>121468775
Koreans don't even play this game anymore, we're what they have.

Either way, I imagine they have an emotional bond to the International server because they don't have an intermediate between themselves and players.
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>>121453343
this game reminds me a lot to final fantasy tactics artwork.
cute.
i hope i get muh key today :^(
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>>121468887
This happened when i got dc at Myrkiti Farm and tried to get back. My other char can log in. I dunno maybe that map is just full or what.
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>>121468969

In the long run the vast majority of people will quit before making it to the ranks that Alchemist requires.

You got to realize, right now only like 10 people have even reached the ranks that would allow them to become Alchemist. And half of all players quit before level 40. The top 10% of players is basically anyone above level 80.

Maybe a few years after the games released will Alchemist potions become a common thing, provided the game survives that long. But most people aren't going to put in the amount of extreme grind that unlocking an Alchemist needs, especially not for a crafting class and especially not as their first class.
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>>121469031
Having no party chat is so fkn bad. tfw running around like a headless chicken when you find a world boss waiting for your team to come find you.
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>>121469226
>Haven't played since day 3, still in the top 10%
Damn son.
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>>121468657
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/build/y6swlatga2/

This build was made for me by an anon here when I asked how I should go Corsair, I ignored it of course.
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>>121456037
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>>121469284

Yeah. Oh the 150k registered accounts, there is probably less than 15k people still actively playing.
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>>121469074
Elaborate please.

>>121469270
Even with voicechat coordination seemed terrible, as the player markings on the map showed the wrong location on the map, if they appeared at all.
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>>121468382
Will Physical Link work on your skeletons? Seeing that it goes to fucking 15 links it should be able to link to stuff other than players.
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>>121469370
Your character scales with money more than with levels, partying reduces your gold income by a lot.
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GABIJA IS KILL
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>>121469284
>been chugging away at my own slow pace
>still manage to stay in top 10%
I don't even play every day
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I dont get you people. Theres literally no benefit to saving EXP cards assuming you do all the quests in all the zones. They give a flat amount.
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but what does it mean?
did ToS check to see if I already have a beta key? i didn't even get them from their site ffs. it's from a giveaway.
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>>121469548
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>>121469284
>wasted the entire first week on a char i abandoned
>make a new one, in top 200 already

why do people suck so much
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>>121468134
>BR's gone
i'm still there
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>>121468860
Something like that

>>121468942
Lathargy you can combo with Earthquake.
Sleep and Energy Bolt get obsolete real fast, though.

I dont ever use them anymore.

>>121469119
>emotional bond
>chat and market breaking every couple of hours
>almost a day for fix

This is only one thing, but only that makes me wonder what kind of bond is this? A SadoMaso one?
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Any Squires yet? I'd like to know/see more about their skills. Same with Alchemist if anyone was crazy enough.
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>>121469603
>level 100
>Top 3%
People are slow
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>>121469548

How many times are we going to have to explain this.

Exp per kill is based on your level vs the enemy level. As you level up, enemies lower level than you will give less exp until they stop giving exp.

Some places are amazing grinding spots, other places have no grinding spots at all.

The objective is simple. When you're in level range of a good grinding spot, you grind. When there is no good spots to grind, you use exp cards.

If you use exp cards when you have a good grinding spot, you fuck yourself over because now you're too high of a level to grind there, and you've got no cards but are stuck in a grinding dead zone.
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>>121469293
pretty viable build, especially considering that he actually wanted you to go peltasa for swashbuckling; a skill that makes grinding hundred times easier. You also got 10points of peltasa to spent on whatever because they will be useless once you reach barb. Once you reach barb, you can also easily relocate your skillpoints because thrust and bash both turn useless once you have used cleave. And Seism and WarCry are both so OP that you'll want to skill reset once more and get 5 on both skills immediately after hitting circle2.

Hope you at least got fun levelling with swordman only
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What drops the recipes for the Vine armor pieces? Ex http://www.tosbase.com/database/items/recipes/30102/
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>>121469734
Ive gotten to 200+ without having to grind more than an hour at any map just off quests/cards.
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>It is so unfortunate that we could not accommodate you for the Beta Test this time since your registration was not processed in a timely manner.
So yesterday's registration wasnt viable.
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>>121469704

No. Most people have just quit entirely.
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>>121469603
It's not that people suck, many signed up, made a character, played 5 minutes and realized that they don't like the game that much.
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>>121467273
Just about every zone is going to have a similar fuckyou-tier monster from now on. Have fun.
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>>121469828
why?
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>>121469809

No you haven't. Literally only 3-4 people have hit 200, and they did it by playing for 20+ hours a day.
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The way class and skill progression works is terrible. There's nothing I can pick and be satisfied.

Fuck I just wanted another RO with good PvP.
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>>121469864
Too much time investment for something to be wiped I imagine.
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>>121469809

can't you arrange a better lie?
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A HUNDRED AND SIXTY HOURS TO SEND OUT ALL THE BETA KEYS

IS IMC FUCKING SERIOUS?
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>>121469916
>and they did it by playing for 20+ hours a day
Those guys on Reddit? Yeah, saw them botting in Mausoleum in the first week.
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>>121469924
Its not even a "Wah I want it to be like RO." I just also think this class system is annoying. Why do I have to go through so many different odd classes to get to the one I want? We should just get to pick our class after the base one and keep with it forever. This game would be much better if they cut/combined half the classes into one and just gave them all 5 circles of advancement. Hybridization sucks.
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>>121470042
fuck IMC
we don't need more players
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>I just realised that zalciai doubles your soul's damage when it walks over it

fuggggg :DDDDDDD
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>>121469775
We'll see how long I last.
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>pumping plate mastery for that sweet stamina to turn into Double Punches
>already costs upwards of 15k at level 24

What the fuck is this gonna cost at level 50
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>>121470050
Literally nothing wrong with botting in a game like this since it bypasses grind.
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>>121470050

Yeah, the first guy to hit 200 admitted he took a vacation and was playing for anywhere from 10-22 hours every single day. For 9 and a half days.

He probably botted, but he's logged over 200 hours of play time since the beta began.
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>>121470136
so does cure and monstrance, actually any ground tile buff that you can walk on will trigger it
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>>121470174
Botting is the death of f2p games.
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What the fuck is wrong with this place, has 10 of these on the map, there hp really is that of an Boss, they don't stuck, hit 8k with easy and lay down 2 traps. While you have to deal with adds that spawn Death Sentence + Sleep the whole time. This is a new degree to suffering
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>>121470174
grind is the point of the game you casual piece of shit
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>>121470219
Well maybe if they made the leveling a bit more realistic people wouldnt be forced to. Nobody has time to fullneet for years now.
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>>121469284
>Ragna babies dropped right at the first zones (muh linear progression)
>normies dropped around Tenet Chapel /Necroventer
>casual gamers dropped when stuck in the Mausoleum
that leaves any slightly competent or interested player (anyone in rank 4) already in the top 10%
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>>121470158
27k
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If what I've read is correct Alchemist's Combustion doesn't just explode one item it explodes every item you have nearby. Also Dig's scaling is 1 item per level.

So Max Dig and Combustion on C3 Alchemist = (15 * matt) + (15* 1324) in fire damage which is quite incredible isn't it?

Just depends what kind of crafting skills we get in C2/C3 if you can afford to put 30 points into a combat build and still do all the craft you want to.
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>>121470192
I only have 187 including my hours from icbt1 and I'm pretty much online all the time

how fucking autistic do you need to be to pull 200 hours?
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>>121469924
You can pick Krivis as your rank 2 for Cleric and be satisifed. :^)
Because without buff+ you're basically gimping yourself and your party. This game will have a lot more than 5 buffs to keep active on a party most likely so atleast one rank of Krivis will raise that to 10.
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>world boss
>field boss
>F.O.E
>MvP
Why.
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>>121470042
I think 80% of the staff is working on bug'n errors, while 10% maintains server and forum condition. I wonder who is responsible for the beta keys.

The servers can't take in another 25k totally motivated players. I would beg IMC to make all new BR-accs to force-assemble onto the new server and possibly not add another international server but more channel in overall
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>>121470207
Yeah, but why does it happen anyway? Is it intended or is it a bug?
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> Hello.
We are IMCGAMES TOS Team.

We’ve completed selecting the testers for the additional Beta Keys and we will begin sending out the first batch the keys to 24,000 testers from this point on.

We apologize that we are not able to send the keys to all selected testers at the moment because of lack of Beta keys.
We are contacting with Steam to receive more beta keys. When we receive more beta keys from Steam, we will immediately send them to the rest of our selected testers. Please kindly understand our situation.

There may be some delays depending on the mail server’s processing capacity so we expect that it would take approximately 160 hours to complete sending out all the emails.

Thank you.


:^)
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>>121470219

Botting is a symptom of having a game so shitty and boring to play people would rather automate the process.

It's kind of like pirating. People will always do it, but it's better to make the experience enjoyable for people rather than trying to swat down anyone who does it.
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>>121470336
who knows, it just works for now.
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>>121470278
>now

just because you sold out and became a casual doesnt mean people arent still hardcore
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>>121470285
Oh ok, I can deal with that much.
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>>121470081
This is what makes it different from the 9999999 wow clones.
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>>121470361
SERVERS ARE ALREADY LAGGING LIKE SHIT AND THEY GONNA LET IN EVEN MORE OF BR REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>121470050
Is it even botting? Can't you just tape down the autoattack button as a memelander or something where the mobs spawn and destroy them in like 2 hits?
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>>121470081
>We should just get to pick our class after the base one and keep with it forever.


You do. Swordsman, wizard, archer, cleric.

think of the rest of them as skill trees
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>>121470493
that's called botting, yeah.
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I don't understand Elektus necklace. Does it mean that if I'm struck with an elec attack there's a chance for 400dmg retaliation or what?
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>>121470493
same as using an autoclicker

it's legal
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>>121470335
I get this idea the ICBT is to them just for stress testing and publishing potential. When it comes to bugs, xp levels, balance etc they will only listen to kCBT
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>>121470493
Any form of automation is considered botting. Afk with your attack button held down is automation.

Ding dong bannu
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>>121470289
be a barbarian and put coin at auto-attack?
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>>121470236
AFAIK they spawn due to event, but the event can be repeated even if you have not killed previous spawn. Hence all those dullas.
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>>121470749
do I get anything from just doing the event?
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>>121470461
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>>121469270
>fkn
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>>121470613
that depends entirely on the devs. hardware macros (a coin stuck in the keyboard, etc) are considered botting in some games.
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Is Swordsman C1 - Lander C1 - barb C2 - Squire C2 a good idea

What do you guys think
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>>121470780
You spawn dulla lol.
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>>121467961
The first week was nothing but meme spouting retards but since the opening of the latin american server I havent seen them since.
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How much is a temple shooter card?
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>>121470858
i think people that go barblander should stop asking for build advice
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Anyone on Zemyna want to sell me a temple shooter card?
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So whats wrong with highlander? They have the OP crit attack passive, and their C2/C3 skills are pretty good. Is it just because barbs have frenzy?
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>>121470890
is Dullahaha at least the one that drops the Roxana stuff?
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>>121470967
People are just jealous of our delicious thighs
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>>121468860
It'll end up like Granado Espada, shit launch and then decent game after 4 years of fixes and rebalancing.
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I sort of want to roll a Wiz but I'd rather skip Pyro and Cryo. Anyone care to share their Wiz C2 or C3 paths and how the experience was with them? Is Magic Missile any good? What about lv15 EQ?
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no key yet.
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>>121470967
Meme class for people who can't think for themselves.
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>>121452684
not really. bosses take like 2 or 3 minutes tops. mobs die in 2 auto attacks (with sacrament + blessing ofcourse)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFX6EdIMXaQ
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>>121470967
yes their tree works with dex hence why every idiot meme player tells everyone to go dex even though the person's class doesn't scale with it
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>>121471081
Granado Espada was literally dead two years after release, you could play for hours without seeing another player.
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>>121469775
you cant put points into other classes
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>>121470967
Long attack casts + 2h suck cause daggers OP.

When your AA is 10x your skill damage you want things that hit frequently and fast to apply that AA damage with. Pyro's skills, for example, will still be effective later on thanks to this system.
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>>121470320
F.O.E is a japanese thing, MvP is because of RO.
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>>121471238
What does MvP even stand for?
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>>121471175
I only played the beta of that.
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>>121470998
Dunno but it must have some sweet drops.
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>>121470320
>tera shitters trying to force "BAMs"
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How do I make all the monies?
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>>121470967
What's OP about crit attack attribute? Criticals are Damage*1.5 + Crit Attack stat. Crit attack is just a flat damage number and the attribute doesn't really add that much more.
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>>121470998
Go farm the mobs in roxana before the horde shows up. I've been slowly selling them on the market with no competition and they drop like candy.
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>>121466614
Hestia a slut.
Praise our lady and savior of the slight boob push.
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>>121471295
MvP would stand for Monster versus Player. In Ragnarok's case MVP stands for Most Valuable Player.
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>>121471137
160 hours
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>>121471398
the anchors?
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>>121471295
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>>121471295
Most Valuable Player obviously. After you kill the boss a person gets Most Valuable Player award, hence MVP.
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>>121471440
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>>121471358
Jew, Jew, and Jew some more.
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>>121471295
MvP stood for Most Valuable Player, a reward that was given for the player that tanked/dealt the most damage to Ragnarök's world bosses. As time passes people started referring to the bosses themselves as the MvPs though, and that stuck to this day.
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>>121470236
So how's Fencer so far? Any fun?
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>>121471481
>]
http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/57677/
http://www.tosbase.com/database/monsters/57694/
yeah
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Can anyone post the dick bypass trick?
IPF is getting annoying.
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I got another key but no friends.
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>>121471542
Do I need the Jew staff?
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>>121471695
this is why you don't have any friends faggot.
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>Flat attribute system incentivizes rapid small hits over large slow hits

Why do these fucking abilities not scale based on a per skill attribute ratio like any sane system
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>>121471695
Post key and I'll be your friend
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>>121471695
>That shirt
Auditioning for Blues Clues?
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>>121469569

ToS is investigating Keys that have been sold and banning the accounts affiliated with it if your key was involved in anyway of selling you're fucked

Why would you even sell the key that is related to your actual fucking Steam account
are you an idiot?

OR you actually bought that key and IMC caught a whiff of it and are now investigating you and will ban you for buying keys
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>>121471784
Because the devs have absolutely no fucking clue about game design or balance. Look at how they've been trying to fix Archers for months.
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>>121471687
why don't you do the the official fix of verifying steam cache instead of that whatafast shill method of editing the user xml
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>Cryo Psycho uses Wall/Pressure to barrage at range instead of walking up to mobs, throwing a wall directly on top of them and then pressuring them for maximum damage

The hell is with all these shitty mages
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I'm at 152 and facing the Demon Prison grind. I did it for 2 levels and I just can't handle it. For some reason grinding in this game is not comfy at all. It might have something to do with the fact that I'm playing archer.

I had no problem grinding for hours in RO or any other MMO.

Help, what do?
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>>121471842
I got it from mmosite giveaway. If they ban me I'll fly to Korea and burn their office.
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How to improve gems efficiently? Spam them with items or other gems?
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>>121472008
Go complain to the dev and hope they listen.
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>>121471175
Exactly, when I cited Granado Espada as an example it wasn't as a good one.
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>>121472060
Spam the gems or get gem upgrade powder or what the fuck was it called. Not sure if you can actually grind it though.
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>>121470283
You get in the 10% before rank 3.
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>>121472008
it's funny because archer double strafe leveling was piss easy in RO
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>>121470335
I'm not sure, but considering that at first the game had 150+k players, every single map was so full red that they even had to move more channels (getting up to 30 channels for a single map) and now it's white everywhere (zemyna's Kcity has only two channels that get red), I think it can handle +25k players with ease.
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Do items break when they reach 0 potential or do you still have one more chance?
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>>121472130
Wait, Grana Espada actually got good? I played it a bit after release but it was too aweful.
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>>121471175
i saw many people botting
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>>121472009
was the key open for everyone to see?

if so it might just be a bunch of bitter faggots false flagging it because they didnt get it
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>>121472008
demon prison isn't comfy cause the spawn rate is insane and they actually hurt you if you're not constantly moving, you actually have to pay attention rather than just press a few buttons every now and then
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new thread when?
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>>121472145
>gem upgrade powder
What's that?

Also, what are good gems for a priest? I'm almost C2 and I'm still unsure whether to go paladin, priest C3 and pardoner or some other shit altogether.

And how to make money, holy shit, the costs of attributes, sp pots, weapon maintenance and improvement, reagents for skills are fucking killing me. Will s̶u̶c̶k̶ ̶c̶o̶c̶k̶ ̶ kiss gleefully for silver.
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Agreed with that guy. People are giving up on grind on a sever with 3x rates. I can't imagine many will stick around for vanilla XP rates.

Game is literally dead on arrival.
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>>121472304
No but I've done plenty of high intensity mobbing in RO and that was actually fun. This is just somehow demoralizing.
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>>121472223
No aoe spam grinding was also a thing in RO.
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Not sure if more highlander or go barb!
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Does anyone know how to get Romas to spawn for the pink hair quest? I've done every quest in the area I think.
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>>121466709
What if it had Overheat

Besides goodbye SP
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tfw I enjoyed their shitty buggy predecessor more until it went all p2w and died. At least it had a functioning market.
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>>121472385
Don't bother with gems at low levels. Just dump them into your storage or feed them into a single gem.

You make money with the Market selling shit to other players.
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>>121472389
M-m-maybe they'll listen?

Honestly though, 3x as vanilla rates with higher (MUCH higher) mob density would make it much more enjoyable.
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>was hype to check if I got a key so I can give it to my friend and play with him
>160 hours
IMC PLEASE
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>>121472482
Telekinesis seems like it should be a somewhat low damage low cd 2-3 charge skill. Something that's your baseline kino damage skill.
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>>121472418
What? Yes it was.
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>>121472298
Don't think so.
It just says "all keys have been given out" to the unlucky people.
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>>121472567
>not signing up when they gave out keys to everyone and their grandmother
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>>121472567
Have mercy, there's like 2 dudes ctrl+c/ctrl+v sending 24k keys.
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>>121472484

>their shitty buggy predecessor

This is IMC, not Gravity

Also

>enjoying that piece of shit
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>>121471217
>people think that arde dagger will carry them through all the 500 levels
That shit will be balanced soon.
If not, this game is trash.
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>>121472518
>Don't bother with gems at low levels. Just dump them into your storage or feed them into a single gem.
Sounds reasonable, but I was under the impression I can extract them?
I'm of course not putting gems into some low level shit, but I figured buying a good lvl 40 shit, upgrading it and putting some fine gems might be a nice idea that will give ma good weapon until very long.
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>looking for dungeon group
>get invited
>enter dungeon
>only boss is up
>wasted 1 run
>instantly left

I almost punched my monitor
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>>121472659
>Signing up every single time but never getting a key because those nigger monkeys got one instead.
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>>121472440
Are you trying to be the next LoliPantsu?
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>>121472389
>>121472565
They have never stated that 1x is something they'll be using in launch. Stop saying that shit. The rates are simply the way their code is built up and they're quite obviously looking for the correct xp rate for the game to be played at. It is very possible that different releases of the game will run at different xp rates depending on what their target audiences like.

I fucking hate this thread for all the people who keep spewing stupid shit like this that has absolutely no truth to base it in. If anything, it's you guys that are killing the game.
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>>121472518
I dont know how anyone can make a fuckin profit when people are literally selling goods for their NPC sellvalue.
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>>121472284
It got "better".
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>>121468595
Step aside, twinkie, real woman archers will always be masterrace ks'ers
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>>121472810
>multiple servers
>5x
>3x
>1x

Would that work?
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>>121472810
Well, I hope you're right anon, because I would love to like the game.
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>>121472706
Extracting gems makes them lose a level (and level 1 to break). So on top of you losing money for opening sockets you lose the gems for a very minimal boost. Going from 40 to 75 will take you at most a day. Save your gems for when you're 120 or 170.
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>>121472440
Barb for Cleave.
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anyone on gabija willing to sell me a zweihander?
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>>121471930
>Cryokino gets tickled by a mob
>30s cooldown
>Cryokino gets fondled by a mob
>instantly dies
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>>121472615
The ability for TK to be resisted is the most frustrating bullshit to the point where I wonder if the class designers even play their shit. Same crap happens with divine stigma on Krivis, too.
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>>121472706
Extracting gems lowers their level by one. At low levels its too expensive on money and fodder for gems.
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Is saule still getting the extra week..?
They should just do it for all servers or Saule will be congested for that last week with all the people trying to play on there and it will probably be literally unplayable.
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>>121472813
You had to be ahead of the curve to make a bank or you just have to be master jew playing the market.
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So what's the point of a beta if they're never going to buff, nerf or fix anything?
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>>121472672
>>121472484
Good times
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>>121458378
I don't think I've ever played a beta where things were hugely changed in the past 6 years.

Beta's are generally stress tests and free previews/trials of the game.

Hopefully these devs prove me wrong.
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>>121472982
Magnetic Force can be resisted too. It's terrible
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Mage Tower 5F boss is UP.
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>>121472792
literally everyone that signed up got a key this time bru
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>>121473048
so casuals much like yourself can heck off
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>>121458252
Insane amount of potential, but needs another 2 years at the very least to fix the huge glaring balance and basic mechanic(scalings, stats, how exp is gained, mob density, mob respawn rates, lack of incentive to group) issues with the game.
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>There won't be a $50 premium server to keep out the gold spammers, the BR's, the chinese and the multiboxers

Sigh....
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>>121471712
Why aren't you jewing off the jew staff?

And you call yourself a jew...
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>>121472484
>>121473113
That shit's RO2? Christ.
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>>121472732
>wasted 1 run
Huh?
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>>121473048
they're going to do all those things
what they're NOT going to do is start from scratch because a bunch of freeviewing faggots from RO want to re-live their experience of doing nothing but grinding bullshit for 10 fucking hours a day
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>massive group of demon mobs weak to strike
>linker links them all
>smite

satisfaction
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>>121472882
It might but I think most players would just go 5x and the lower rate servers would die in a matter of months.

>>121472895
It's just code. It's people datamining said code and making stupid assumptions. It's a beta test because they're testing things. The reason for us having different rates from kcbt is so that they can have a major population playing through the game with different rates and get some great data statistics from that.

The main reason the servers run so shitty is because they most likely have a lot of debug and statistics shit running on the background to gather data. Atleast that's what any sane dev would do.

The code is built up so that monsters of any level give basically no xp unless they set the rates.
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Is there anything that can be done about this or is it just another beta glitch?
I had it cover a boss earlier, I don't even know what the boss looked like.
>>
new thread when
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>>121473364
>but grinding bullshit for 10 fucking hours a day
but that's literally all the game is after level 100
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Laima ded?
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new
thread
w h e n
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>Sword > Peltasa > Hoplite 2 > Squire 2
>Sword 2 >Barb 2 > Corsair 2

Which should I go for? Is having 1 in Peltasa for keeping adds in dungoens grouped worth it, or would a Linker be better for that?

I also wanted to try Paladin, figuring Cleric > Kivris 2 > Paladin 3 be good?
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>>121473387
So the hardcore players kept complaining about too little grind but not decide to go to the 1x because 5x is good?

What happened to more grind?
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>>121473392
>working shout chat
Nice bug abuse
>>
What the hell is a "gigantic" target?
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>>121473336
It was really shit, how dead is it now?
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>>121473196
>Literally everyone.
Clearly not me.
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>>121473489
nah m8, apparently it's questing until lvl 500, with quest paths, auto-run, and you get like 3 lvls per quest and reee themeparks.
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>>121473575
Large size, blame github
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>>121473574
I wish there was an option to turn it off.
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>>121473578
>tfw RO2 was better before they did that massive rework
Even that was pretty bad though but what the fuck are they doing. It's the most cookie cutter MMO I had seen in a while with mediocre graphics. Literally no reason to play RO2 over any other shitty F2P korean grindfest.
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>>121472484
I enjoyed it too ;_;
And it just feels better playing with friends there than in this game.

RO3 when? hopefully more action oriented and not another WoW clone with shit graphics this time.
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>>121473641
Gotcha, thanks.
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>>121473642
At this point, I wish there was an option to turn it on
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>>121473642
hit enter, cog wheel button, turn off shout
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>Blatant machine translations

Look I know that IMC isnt handling the translation themselves but come the fuck on.
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>>121473130
That's open beta. Closed betas are when things usually get changed around a lot. And things are still changing, just not on a daily basis. Kcbt patches get rolled on to icbt weekly and they're obviously busy with whatever that event was that's coming up. A couple weeks ago we were getting daily patches on kcbt, sometimes more than one.

>>121473565
There's a vocal minority of retarded RO nostalgics who think the only way to play a game is to grind for hundreds of hours per level. If they'd go with different rate servers even those faggots would eventually roll on the 5x server because their precious hardcore 1x would have a total of 100 players.
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How high do gem levels go, anyway?
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http://www.tosbase.com/database/quests/9104/


Has anybody started and completed this quest, if so what is the requirement?
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>Tfw fell for the Barrage is good meme
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>>121473849
Up to 10. And that shit goes into +9 or more endgame shit exclusively.
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>>121473849
I think they go to either 10 or 15. I've seen a level 6 gem. The upgrading gets so exponentially crazier that you won't be reaching gems higher than 6 or 7 in the beta.
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>>121473738
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>>121473953
Barrage is one of the only redeeming skill of Ranger. Stop with this >fell for the meme shit.
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>>121473953
Barrage IS good. You're shit if you think it's not.
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>>121473953
kill yourself
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>>121474030
>>121474097

Archer C2 is better than Ranger
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Do monster gems drop when you die like regular gems?
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>>121474182
Yes.
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>Flying enemies avoid almost all of my sapper attacks

WAKE ME UP
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Is this game fun?
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>>121474135
Why
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>>121474214
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>>121474236
until about level 70, yes.
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>>121474135
>muh multishot

end yourself
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>>121474210
Fug.

Good thing it was a shitty Diev skill, but I'll miss that gem exp.
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>there are people right now without more than 5 in any given attribute at clvl 100
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>>121474301
You mean after 90
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>>121474345
You mean before 10
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does the new key only allows you to play at the BR server? Or it goes for all of them?
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>>121474135
And you're confirmed for not playing archer beyond rank 2.
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>>121474319
>there are people right now without more than 100 in any given attribute at clvl 5
>>
this game is fun

wiz3 > psycho 2 here
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How useless is evasion in high level dungeons?
>>
>>121474469
How're you handling the cooldowns on shit? Seems like it might be hard with that few offensive skills. What are you planning to pick for r6?
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How does Stone Skin work?
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>>121474676
it increases your block
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>>121474672
>>121474672
>>121474672
>>121474672
MIGRATE
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>>121468595
>Pick up worthless little healslut
>Make her obey my every command
>Steal all her kills
>Reward her when she's good by thrusting my superior swordsman-line cock down her throat
>She struggles at first, but eventually manages to handle it
>Soon it becomes routine for her
>Eventually, she becomes disappointed when I DON'T bang her uvula like a gong
>Bitch doesn't know her place
>Dump her for new healsut. They're a dime a dozen
>Days later, feel incredible pain in my balls
>It comes & goes, but gets worse everytime

>Week later
>See old healslut
>She's Bokor Circle 2
>She buldozes everything with an undead parade
>She looks at me
>She stabs some doll in her hand
>Pain in balls occurs
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>>121475496

10/10 wait until effigy's bug gets fixed.
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>>121465495
Bokors can sometime be more retarded than memelanders. And that's coming from a Bokor.
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>>121475496
Okay, I laughed
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>>121473340
You can do 5 runs each day.
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>>121471695
>pedophile doesn't get a key
Gee, I wonder why.
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fucking lamia market, its a wonder if stays up for more than 3hrs a day
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>>121476448
I keep a friend request pending just to know if the server that handles that shit is down, or if the market is just being a fag for a given channel & I should switch.
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What's my leveling order in terms of skills for Sadhu?

Which skill do I grab first?
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>>121473262
you want to play alone anon?
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