Eve Online General - /eog/

>>121431847
Here at Forge we party hard

>all out dumpster high class shitters with moral victory
ayyylmao

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Battleship buffs when?

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>>121431847
>>121432073
>turns out pious amarrians are huge hypocrites

return to capitals online when?

what percentage of the player base has been involved with null sec gameplay throughout eve?

>>121432265
>literally every religion ever

>>121432294
2016

>>121431847
OH FUCK ITS A GATECAMP. GO BACK INTO THE GATE INTO LAST THREAD GUYS

>>121432265
Just like real life.

>>121432473
OH FUCK A CYNO*

I missed the part where FC called gate was green

>>121432473
FC I'M WEBBED

>>121432618
pls catch up to the fleet >>121431952

>>121432473
too late, there is a scripted bubble, we'er fucked

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>>121432752
pulling implants

>>121432930
I should do this more often

Why the fuck si there such a huge differrence in difficulty between 3/10 and a 5/10. Fuck this shit.

>>121431952
Only filthy F1 blobbers know that feel

>>121432473
>>121432618
Jokes on you I fly a Svipul, I'm already at the gate and in defensive move with 28k ehp.

>>121433642
>Your way of playing the game is shit,

>>121434063
I'm so sorry I had to watch you get alpha popped by the nado fleet. Reship and rejoin the fleet

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>>121434210
>get hit at all
lmao
>overheat mwd
>turn mwd on, burn to gate
>1 second later turn defensive mode
>tornadoes face when 26k ehp and the sig of a frigate moving at 4k m/s

>>121432930
tfw somone posts your ingame screenshot
feels weird man

So if I go exploration to pay the bills early on, get cheap shit and pilfer lowsec? Always got blapped in null. Should I be a faggot and stick to high or is that almost no profit? Or should I bother trying to go incursion?
I plan to ultimately join low/null, but while starting off plan to stick with high if I can. What do. Also which of the four factions to be part of?

>>121434812
null/wh in a cheapfit heron with t1 cloak
lrn2not be shit

>>121434812
highsec explo is shit
newbies cannot into incursion
whichever faction you like the aesthetics of most

>>121435097

I came back after mroe than a year off. My POS is still up in space but i've read somewhere that they cant be used anymore and that they will be replaced by some sort of mini stations?

>>121434812

low is probably the most consistent, null is alright, but unless you know where to go, you'll probably be spending more time dodging bubbles and shit than actually doing any explo

one of these days, i'm going to win the lottery, and when i do, i'm gonna fit an inty with 12 PLEX each week and zoom around


or get a group of like 50 folks together, get 'em in a shuttle, pack 'em with PLEX and have them all swarm out of Jita for anyone to pick off

Are there any risks to cloak ships in low sec? Are they technically impossible to kill if one doesn't get smart bombed or fucks up?

>>121437627
bubbles?

people are getting smart and sprinkling drag bubbles with random shit like corpses and crap so that they decloak you when you land inside it

>>121437754
>low sec
>bubbles
I've heard that dictors are rare in low sec. Any other things I should be aware of?

>>121437863
ah fuck me, i can't read for shit tonight
no, you're pretty safe, beyond the usual gate camps and shit

as long as you can cloak in under a second after jumping through to the other side of the gate, you're good

i mean, the worst you'll have is maybe an instalock scrambler trying to camp the gates, but if you only show up for less than a second, you're fine

if you're fairly new-ish to cloakies, remember that the cloaking/de-cloaking animation is misleading. it looks like it takes a couple of seconds, but you're actually visible on dscan and overview the instant you start decloaking, so the moment your ship moves, hit that cloak again

>>121438112
So all I need to do is

>60 seconds free cloak from jumping gate
>Align and warp and immediately cloak while aligning

Thanks senpai

>>121438319
yeah, pretty much
just don't get into the habit of jumping gate to gate

once you enter null and have to worry about bubbles, people will set up dragbubbles to catch lazy people who gate-gate jump

every now and then just jump to a clear moon nearby and try practicing dscanning gates (make sure your overview is set up properly, don't use the retarded defaults)

>>121438628
And how would I probe without getting caught? Make sure the coast is clear, jump 300km away from a planet and shit?

Almost have enough SP for covops.

>>121438889
shiiit, i remember that feeling of getting into my first helios
but yeah, you've got the idea

my steps are usually as follows

land
dscan 360 max
dscan 30 at nearest planet/moon

if clear, 100km
the instant i uncloak, launch probes, then cloak up again while warping (you can technically just not cloak while warp if you want to reload your probe launcher)

while you're still in warp, probe scanner, and send 'em out far from the system (at least 15AU if you don't want your probes showing up on other dscan)

you should be able to do this before you land from your warp to the planet/moon/whatever

if all goes well, you only show up for at most a second, and your probes show up for maybe 2 seconds

>>121439359
get your scanning skills up and practice scanning things down quickly

remember that for most Data/Relic sites, they're located within 3AU of planets/moons/sun/etc. use that knowledge to focus your probes quickly. once you manage to scan something to 100%

>bookmark it (it'll come in handy as a safe later)
>dscan it at 15 (if in range and ther are others in local)
>jump to it at 20km (if it's clear, doesn't really matter, but i do it just to make sure it's clear)
>hack away

be sure to keep local visible in case anyone enters, have your dscan 360 at 2-3AU in case anyone is trying to scan you down as well

for me, i like to refresh dscan every 5 nodes of any site i'm hacking

>>121439359
>then cloak up again while warping
Warp to somewhere so it's harder to get caught than staying in one place I assume?

The rest makes sense to me. Thanks a lot senpai.

>>121439764
exactly

as a cloakie, it's not THAT risky if you just jump somewhere and then slowboat straight up or down or whatever

but desu, bouncing is always a good habit in hostile territory, it's a habit that i've learned early on during FW and it's saved my ass in null many times

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>>121439916
>mfw when the acronym for "to be honest" filters to "desu"

>>121439359
this actually sounds pretty interesting;
running around, cloaking up all the time, dropping probes and looking for high value loot while trying not to get blapped. sounds a lot more fun than running missions in high sec.

Is there a guide to this online anywhere?

>>121440057
write it out fully putin.

>>121440057
And the short form of family turns into senpai.
Cuvk (v = c) turns into kek.
The acronym shaking my head turns into baka.

Thanks a lot for the help with cloaking. It'll come in very handy.

>>121440201
holy crap i never knew what s.m.h meant
this whole time
i was wondering what it meant
now i know

>>121440096
You know what's more fun family? FW where you can actually make money while PvPing.

Shame I don't want to leave my corp.
>>121440435
baka desu senpai

Guess we've enlightened one another today

>>121440096
yeah, it's pretty fun, but the minigame does get kind boring after a while, honestly

it's something that everyone with cloaking v at least try a couple of times, it if weren't that stupidly long training time, i'd recommend it to everyone

there are some good guides online, most are outdated when it comes to specifics, but the general gist of always keep local open, dscan properly, and stay on your toes is standard

i'm gonna get shit for it, but i started out by reading guide on /r/eve over on reddit to get the general idea, and the rest of the shit i learned through experience

oh, and be sure to invest in some good fits if you wanna get serious, the good shit is usually locked up in Sleeper caches, you can make like 20m easy with a single cache, but you need a scan strength of over 110 to most of those

>>121440546
>Cloaking V
Isn't cloaking III enough for the cloaking device II?

>>121440482
i did some FW in minnie space, it was pretty fun shit talking amarr, had a bunch of good back and forth going on around Huola earlier this year, but damn Amarr FW guys don't fuck around, lol

i remember they brought like fucking 20 svipuls and raped us all

you definitely see a lot more action with FW, especially if you take the time to join the FC's teamspeaks, just introduce yourself, no need to chat if you don't want, but listening to the FC's commands will save your ass more often than not

>>121440546
theres no need to skill up past cloaking IV

>>121440482
faction warfare eh? is that like PVP + PVE?

So this exploration thing sounds pretty neat, but it also sounds like you need a cloak to not get blown to shit in either lowsec hunting or WHs. Would it be pretty suicidal to go with just, like, a magnate?

>>121440546
>cloaking v
cloaking III is enough for improved cloaking device II
cloaking IV for cover ops

>>121440989
pvp, the only pve bit you get is when you take on the rat that spawns on the beacons

but no, the idea is that you want to control various beacons around a system to give control to your faction, takes like 5-20 minutes or so to cap a beacon (they're more commonly called plexes, short for complexes) and they come with a rat that guards the beacon

what this basically does is focus the pvp into these complexes, one faction wants to cap it, the other wants to defend it

you have novice, small, medium, and large plexes, they have limits on which ships can enter (everything can enter a large plex), i forget exactly what can or can't enter the novice, small and med

>>121441252
>>121440840
yeah yeah, i know, fuck me, it's been a rough night, can't read for shit, forgetting simple shit, wtvr

but yeah, Cloaking IV, get covops cloak ii, don't cheap out, covops cloak ii is the only one that'll let your warp while cloaked

>>121440840
Well fuck. I just realized I need to add 5more days to my skill queue before I can use my cheetah because I only trained cloaking to III.
>>121440989
Pretty much. It's like capturing the flag with PVP and PVE last I heard.
>>121441093
>suicidal
You could also do exploration in high sec. It would be a bit riskier in low sec and the T1 exploration frigs don't have the scan and hacking bonuses.
>>121441252
>cloaking III is enough
That's what EFT told me.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Covert_Ops_Cloaking_Device_II
says otherwise.

Cloaking is not needed to fly covert ops ships.

>>121441093
>Would it be pretty suicidal to go with just, like, a magnate?
yes it'd be

but

risk vs reward

a magnate costs 1,5 mil, 1mil is the cloak so it's basically peanuts

a good lowsec can can worth 20mil, in WH that goes waaaaay up

>>121441406
>Cloaking is not needed to fly covert ops ships.
That would be like flying a sansha's nation ship without a serpentis ship without a web

>>121441406
I was told that hisec explo is basically worthless. I guess it'd make things easier given that my stats are garbage, though.

>>121441465
True. I guess a couple planets can provide enough baseline to not make that so much to worry about.

>>121441716
You should practice exploration in high sec before heading to low sec though.

>>121441716
i mean, practice is always good

even if there's no risk in high sec, get into the habit of dscanning while you're hacking, make sure your windows are set up so you can always see local

get into the habit of quickly setting bookmarks/safes, hotkeys for everything, etc.

the loot you get is shit, the experience is valuable

Viators for rental! Only 2b per!

>>121441716
>>121441901
Reminder to set the refresh D-Scan hotkey

It's named Refresh D-Scan under Combat in the hotkey settings I believe.

>get invited to join PL
>laugh at waffles complainer last thread

>>121442038
this x4

Reminder to new dogs to use the general's permalink :

http://orph.link/eog

>>121442301
>/lisg/
>/asean/
>/eog/
>/hisp/
>/mk8g/
nice meme

>>121443121
U wot m8

>>121442106
Which corp?

>>121442106
I think it's cute that people in the game try to find tears where there aren't any just to feel superior.

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>amarr

>>121442146
spacebar masterrace

>>121434736
i still have the entire interrogation recorded senpai

>>121443875
but getting in PL is hard r-right?

>>121444162
too loud

>>121443121
plz dial 911 anon, you may be having a stroke

>>121444284
all you need to join PL is 20b to buy a supercarrier

your alliance is shit btw

hey alexander k. how's the explo going?

>>121442106
>some fucking sperg last thread bitches that Waffles is 3elite5him because a recruiter didn't like his shit
>decides to change his mind middle of the evaluation process (takes like 4-5 days to get through everything)
>obviously has an ulterior motive and doesn't tell what really happened that he was a fucking sperg
>made a bunch of bullshit assumptions that he was treated unfairly and assumed that another recruiter would come in and cuddle him to sleep
>whined when people told him not to be a shitty sperg shitter

>>121444632
>all you need to join PL is 20b to buy a supercarrier
Kek

You can get into Hoover but almost every other one needs a Vouch.

>>121447449
This. Some people just truly have no concept of shame

>want to fly ships from every race
>only 6 months old

fug

>>121447869
try not being a t2/t3 special snowflake

>>121447563
Surely you don't believe that.

>>121448174
kek

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>We apologize for the delay in this response, but we are currently seeing a heavy load of incoming support tickets. We have granted you 3 days of game time as compensation.

>>121448174
10/10 cancer i like it

>>121448174
Why hasn't he left all-out yet?

>>121448313
All-out is good now

>>121448175
The vouch is a pretty good shitfilter. Someone within the corp provides a vouch for your person, character, general "not a fucking retard" check. The Vouch is pretty hard to get though as the person giving it puts their membership on the line for it.

So yea I'd fully believe in it especially when they don't just give them out willy nilly

>>121448281
CCP Customer support is fucking on point.

I had to wait days for my reply to and got time compensation.

>>121448174
what kind of fucking fit is that?

>>121448394
>All-out is good now
It was never good to begin with.

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>All-Out

>>121448659
Well a corp made by a rookie, for rookies is inherently bad

Flying the real shit now dropbears cant even handle us

>>121448659
Nootkin joining all out fixed everything

>>121449369
several people infact

The sperg and the sperg about sperg in this all over EVE is absolutely disgusting. Just fucking bashing people all fucking day. No friendship. People jump through fucking hoops to find shit to call each other out on to fuel their own superiority complex. It's fucking devastating.

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>ghost site right in Hek

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>>121449537
Feels really good not being part of an alliance or a big corporation. Me, I know people in my corp for almost 9 years, ever since I played. Met eachother IRL too and went on various trips. I'm a lucky guy. Had I joined a different corp I would have never met them and I would have turned just as bitter and powerhungry and deceptive as the people you speak about.

Even at fanfest I met some hostile people, mittani getting dickriders from left and right, alliances hooping up with eacother around areas, it wasn't a pretty sight. eveamsterdam was fun though, but a little too drunk for me.

People will go to very far limits to do some dickerish shit in game and outgame, and call that 'ambition' Don't fall for it.

>>121448281
how much did you wait?

>>121448174
'guys can i kill a tengoo he just aggressed me on a gate'
hahahah i love all out

>>121449858
4 days. not great, but I've had much worse.

>>121449816
Lucky, damn jealous. If I had even a small group of friends in EVE it wouldn't bother me so much.

But when your live is shit and the place you try to escape to is shit, it really brings you down, especially when that escape is the only thing you have the motivation to try to better.

inb4 priorities.

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post favorite KM edits

>>121450209
That sucks man. I can understand where you're coming from. Friends are important. Keep biting through, you can always try join a different corp, a more relaxed one

>>121450209
Mmm, all my old friends have quit. I'm taking a break from the game, see if I can get the energy to get back out there and invest time into making new friends.

>>121450414
If it weren't for the whole "Good. Chill. Pick One" issue I'd agree. As far as I know there doesn't exist a decent sized corp that both good and relaxed. Which is a travesty.

>>121448174
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U988HjnOa9Q
<3

>>121450458
Honestly it's one of the main reasons I resubbed. Hoping that I could find some sort of enjoyable social aspect within the game that I don't have in real life. While I've met lots of dudes that I would consider cool people, there are none that I would consider friends. Giving up making friends IRL and in game.. it's a pretty pathetic situation.

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>>121450865
don't give up m8

>>121450865
Yeah, I've been playing since 2003 with a group but now Im the last one still playing, feels really bad. I'm probably not going to resub, its hard to play without those guys.

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>>121451063
>2003
holy shit

>>121451063
join all-out

>>121451063
>everyone I played with quit in the last 6 months
>unsubbed for the first time since incarna and probably not coming back ever
tfw

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>posting feels
>not posting best cruiser

>>121451651
>posting maller as the best cruiser

>>121451651
>Amarr

>>121451651
It's nice to be reminded that /eog/ is a general after all, and not just a hotbed of memes and cultural references

>>121451739
I swear to god, if someone posts
>amarr
one more fucking time...

>>121451826
>Amarr

>>121451547
Yeah, game sucks without good friends.

>>121451815
>general
It's more of a lieutenant

>tfw remembering when I mistook a machariel for an amarr ship in /eog/

>>121451917
It sucks regardless desu

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>>121451934
anon

>>121452006
Must not have good friends.

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>omg it's a sentient spawn
>drone capillary

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>Amarr

>>121452705
>

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CSM 10 has not be working so far. can we get people who aren't part of the megabloc or youtubers hydra/PL whatever not be in CSM?

>>121452943
Nobody gives a shit about CSM aside from the people you listed.

>>121453109
well you're kinda right. fozzie even said ' don't count on the csm to be the voice of the people'

>arrive at a data site just as someone else is unlocking the last container
this is an a+ start to my career in space junk

>>121454135
Try going to one of those 0.5 dead end systems that no one goes to.

>>121454187
There's actually a nice little one-entry midsec area near my home system, I should try there. Might be low enough that I'd have to watch for murder getting in and out but eh.

>>121454187
Aridia could work, or tash-murkon

>>121454254
>Might be low enough
No one will try to murder you above 0.5 sec because they'll get destroyed by concord

Exceptions :
CODE and their bullshit
You're carrying expensive shit in a hauler and get scanned down

>>121454346
>above 0.5
I meant 0.5 and above.

>>121454346
Nah, the constellation is split in two halves with one connection between them, one half is .6 and the other is .3.

>>121454306
I personally like the ABCD systems in Minmatar-Gallente space.

Aufay
Balle
Colelie
Deltole

All of them 1 hop within one another and all 0.5 sec.

>>121454512
and all of them with massive traffic, so you basically won't get anything

>>121454512
ABCD Systems? interesting, never read about that
But yeah that could work too. I just like tash murkon the most because of the nebulae box

>>121454670
Eyy, tash buddies.

>>121454670
>nebulae
Reminds me of the genesis constellation. That place is full of systems that creep me out

>>121455005
>>121454834
>yfw we're getting even more detailed nebulae in the winter expansion

>>121455170
Does anyone want to make the pilgrimage with a bunch of people in a few days?

>you can run XL-ASBs with no cap charges for -200gj/s

Are there any subcaps that can do this? Heck, is it useful on any caps, either?

>>121455316
Sure!

>>121455316
n-no, I'll pass on that anon

>>121455576
>>121455581
I'll probably be organizing it in the /v/ bros channel. Just bring a cheap frigate if you guys want to participate.

>>121455581
Come on Anon! It'll be fun! Lighten up a little!

>>121455650
I'm not in that channel...

>>121455728
Just join it in game. I guess I'll post the time and day here too.

>>121455767
Will it be around this time?

>>121456054
I doubt so considering that most people don't play at these times. We could possibly make two trips on the same day but that'd spoil things a little.

>>121456208
tfw no one is online in autz

>>121455316
To where?

>>121456329
Iktf.. Sometimes I stay up late just to catch my friends.
>>121456341
To New Eden. Google EVE pilgrimage

>>121456329
I'm here Anon!

>>121456329
get the fuk outa my timezone little fagboy

>>121456507
I wish I could

And a strawpoll to estimate how many people want to join the pilgrimage

http://strawpoll.me/5933375

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>shield tanking

>>121451547
What made them quit family?

>faggot totally rapes you
>gf lol XDD

>>121459365
Report him for cyberbullying.

>>121448174
Beautiful senpai

Anything interesting in all the vegas videos?

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>pity bump from /scg/
You're welcome

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>star citizen

>pity bumps while his own general is dead

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what happened to this guy?

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>Chisa

>vlade randal in charge of fleet fights

https://zkillboard.com/br/59767/

>Augoror Meme Issue

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>>121463865
Poor little Claymore...

>make a gambling event for eve players
>it gets popular
>CCP strongarms their way in
>makes shitty powerpoint presentations
Holy shit are these icelandic inbreds 4 real?

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What is the best ship and why is it the Garmur

>>121466354
garmur is pretty good for risk averse noskill scrubs. I think worm is probably a little better though.

>>121466408
Worm is for the spineless desu.

I'm trying to sort out a fleet comp of armor brawlers with 3 utility mids each. how the fuck do I distribute all the tackle, ewar and remote boosts for different numbers in fleet? shit's complicated.

http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/parallax-known-issue-with-pos-and-poco/

>We are working on a solution to this problem and hope to resolve it early next week.
T-Thanks, Brain in a Box.

>>121468906
>early next week
Well there goes the weekend bash

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>MF beams outdamage MF pulses

>>121470895
>tracking

>>121471226
>webs and tps

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>mfw flying amarr unironically

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A64zZJRKL5k

Bretty gud.

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>>121473150
>Amarr

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>>121474478

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How healthy is the player population these days? Is the game dying or thriving?

>>121475579
Numbers have dropped a lot from their peak but I think they've been stable for the last six months or so

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>>121475579
Here's a graph from a dev blog released a few days ago

>>121466354
>>121466408
We all know the Dramiel and Daredevil are the most skill intensive frigates.

>>121477795
in the dramiel's case yeah it's skill intensive since you have to disengage most of the time

>>121476723
>30 day moving average of 30 day peak numbers
lmfao amateur hour

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>>121450301
(not an edit sry)

does 4chan have a guild in this game?

>>121479726
>guild

you mean clan

>>121476723
What's up with the death drop from like mars 2014 to winter 2014? Did CCP start with PLEX for skillpoints or something?

>>121479839
I'd imagine some big battle happened around that time that brought new players to the game, then they noticed the game isn't like the stories and left.

Might also have been some changes at the time. I'm not good with remembering past events.

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The fuck is going on?
I hate this new probe shit but I want to keep the new dscan because hotkey.
How are you supposed to move this shit?

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>>121479839
It's impossible to see now that they changed the data but the drop was in 2013. There was a big battle in January 2014 and it spiked back up due to publicity then it rapidly dropped back to where it was before and kept going down.
Pic is from August 2014 and you can see what I'm talking about.

>>121481507
it looks like you've got your alt key stuck on or something

>>121481673
nah, it started doing that on its own, also the arrows to move it around are sometimes missing, what AM I missing?

I also sometimes get 100% scans on ships and I can't warp to them.
I really don't get it.

>>121479763
>clan

you mean consortium

>>121482152
it's bugged

>>121482447
well that took a fucking year but I scanned him down
https://zkillboard.com/kill/50020023/

>svipul

>>121482771
You're a bully.

>>121481507
>>121482152
it is a bug that make it act like you have your alt key pressed. i experienced it about equally with the old map too. press shift to unstick it and go back to normal.

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>amarr

why aren't people using feroxes? these things are meme as fuck.

>>121485289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-jyWiD7dyQ
Stop being a normie and fit a pre BC buff autocannon Ferox.

>>121485549
>autocannon ferox

not a faggot sorry

>>121471326
amarr generally doesn't have the mid slots for things like that

>>121481573
>using averages
>not medians

>>121485289
they get the optimal range bonus plus the role bonus to optimal range/falloff its a pretty good ship as a poor man's slippery pete

>>121471326
They also don't have the capacitor for running beams, as they use gobs more capacitor than pulses

which is funny because even with the 50% bonus to capacitor usage (if that laser ship even gets one lel) lasers use 50% MORE capacitor than hyrbid guns do

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>>121474478
now make an edit with dogs superimposing each and other character, ship

also r8 my POS bashing ship

I intend to fly with weapons and damage mods offlined then swap once I found a target

>>121488371
>281dps

jesus anon your missile skills are shit

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>>121488371
>censors his name
whats the matter punk?

>>121455510
yea, a few of the battleships can easily get away with this

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rate my bash ship guys

>>121489940

without retarded full cap-recharge fits?

>>121455510
>Heck, is it useful on any caps, either?
Capital ships? not really, the capital reppers heal way more than the XLASB's

>>121489965
remove the brust aerator and the collision accelerator, you're stacking really hard against 4 other gyro stabs, your returns are worthless in that regard, just put on more tank rigs

>>121490169
burst aerator is rate of fire and i was pretty sure doesn't stack with the gyros. maybe you have a point with the collision accelerator though.

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>revealing your identity on /eog/

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>>121490362
shhh
somewhere between paint and saving the file it lost the censor

>>121490126
oh running them dry? no of course not, the amount you heal is so much worse

but people get away with the massive capacitor cost by using their 9 charges, then immediately burn a 10th "free" charge at the expense of burning like 1000gj or 800gj or what ever it is of capacitor. since the 11th cycle most likely won't go off, it'll stop just in time before making your cap go to zero and you get a "free" 10th boost off of it.

>>121490302
all those rigs do stack with the gyro stabilizers and do have the same stacking penalties associated with them.

>>121488493
I'm shooting at offline modules

yes I should up my skills

>>121490302
Only the T2 burst will give you a significant increase, T1 stacks as 5th

>>121491998
this, the T2 has a higher bonus than the T1 and it has a higher bonus than the gyro stabs, therefore it'll go first in the stack and you'll get a far better bonus with it

>>121491759
>I'm shooting at offline modules
you should just get polarized launchers then

>>121492205
You really think with that DPS he has t2 torps trained?

>>121492514
maybe he should get a better ship to shoot stationary targets with

a cruiser can put out more DPS than that stealth bomber and he should (probably) have a higher skill in that

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>not amarr

>>121492205
>>121492514
correct

>>121492616
a cruiser wouldn't be as sneaky
no covops

>meme shitfits general

>>121493073
Holy poop! That's a nice fit, anon.

I'm gonna steal it.

>>121491998
>>121492070
Oh - that's useful to know. Thank you.

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>gallente

>>121496410
>again with the drone tracking mod

You will never learn

Are drone tracking mods any good? If a 'sentient' one is 11mil maybe I'll make a silly heavy drone fit that surprises frigates by applying DPS perfectly to them with ogres

>>121497078
no frigate is going to be surprised by getting raped by a drone cruiser/bs

>>121496410
>4k ehp
So I could potentially 2 volley you on my svipul
nice fit

>>121492205
why not lasers? Get a beam oracle, go afk

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>beam

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>>121497406

*mwds behind you*
*does 20,000 damage in 6 seconds*

nothin personnel

I just realized that super-dps close range fleets are going to become fucking hilarious when the AOE MJD destroyers are added. Imagine an entire fleet of these being MJD'd on top of your t3d blob.

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>>121498685
>ts web

>>121498685
imagine a special snowflake mjd destroyed getting killed instantly like all other destroyers in the game in gang fights

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>>121498685
By the time you land the T3Ds are already 80kms away you goddamn retard.
And if the close range fleets have MJD destroyers so does the kiting fleet, and while all this jumping is happening the kiting fleets are applying dmg with impunity.

And good luck MWDing that gross shit with 4 plates around anything short of a capital, 77kehp, good luck getting killed by a confessor. or a garmur.

Stop with your super shit polarized fits, nobody is impressed and we all think you're a goddamn retard.

>>121499181

how autistic do you have to be that something this simple churns you up into a frothing rage

what made you this kind of person? did your girlfriend get fucked by the football team or something? parents beat you?

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>Project.Mayhem.

>>121500423
I could ask you the same question, what made you this kind of person that would shit nothing but complete mega shitfits all day long?? did your girlfriend get fucked by the football team or something? parents beat you?

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>>121500423
>girlfriend

>>121500705
I'm your girlfriend, anon-kun. R-Remember?

>amarr

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Why is the stabber the cutest ship?

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>Somebody drops market prices for shits and giggles

Okay?

>>121512293
nefantar best skin

>all probes on target with .25 range
>70% signal
C'MON YOU LITTLE SHIT FUCKING DO IT GODDAMN I HATE YOU SO MUCH

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post em

>>121518827
what the fuck are you doing

>>121519274
training the most overpowered skill in the game to V

i mean, come on you don't even have to target them

>>121518391
You are probably fucked, but try holding shift and move some probes manually. Or perhaps that Ctrl thing in the new map

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>>121518391
get skilled m8

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>>121518827

>>121522805
wew lad at least auto-targeting missiles has some application instead of actually hurting you

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>>121522805

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>>121522805
>gimping yourself

>>121522347
>>121522091
Shifted all over the place. It's probably because I've spent literally zero time on my scanning skills and am only using what new characters start with.

>>121522943
>>121522962
>>121523042
I actually disagree with the 'TSM hurts you' meme. Still not worth training to V, sure.

>>121523314
>I actually disagree with the 'TSM hurts you' meme.
its mathematically proven dude, its not some fucking meme you make up

>>121523314
It hurts buffer fits, but its good for active.

>>121523528
Picture any ship that gets a shield boost cycle while very low on hull. If at that point any incoming damage bleeds, he will go to 0 hull and blow up. With TSM V, the bleed can't happen and he will only die if the damage was higher than the remaining shield+hull.

The "shield recharge" argument that's always thrown around is a meme for several reasons. For starters, at the point your shield can start bleeding you are below your peak recharge, so any gains will be minimal. On top of this, bleeding chance is very low, which means the one hit that bleeds will give you at best a couple seconds until the next hit lands and kills your recharge. Ebin gainz you got there. But tell me about your math anon.

>>121524942
>Picture any ship that gets a shield boost cycle while very low on hull. If at that point any incoming damage bleeds
statistically irrelevant

its not 5% of damage penetrates its a 5% chance any damage at all penetrates

>>121524942
>The "shield recharge" argument that's always thrown around is a meme for several reasons.
Its not a meme, thats literally how it works because the chance of it getting TWICE bled through is literally 1/400

>>121524942
>Picture any ship that gets a shield boost cycle while very low on hull.
He was dead from the getgo if he was that fucking low

>>121524942
>For starters, at the point your shield can start bleeding you are below your peak recharge
max recharge is 33%
you start bleeding at <25%

>>121525794
>is literally 1/400
I like those odds.

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>Amarr
>Undocking
>isk

>>121526745
thats probability, not odds

1/20 = 5%
twice in a row is 1/400

>>121526272
25% at TSM 0. Anyone who does any kind of combat will have it at 4, that's 5%
>>121525794
Exactly, the bleed is not consistent and that makes recharge irrelevant.

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>not having Tactical Shield Manipulation 6
Fucking scrubs.

>>121527378
>25% at TSM 0
which no one runs because you need TSM4 for the T2 invulns and shit

>exactly the bleed is not consistent and that makes recharge irrelevant

the assumption was that if and when there is bleed damage, your shield takes less damage which means it can tank harder.

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>>121527785

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Convince me not to re-sub

I think I need the help of one of those gambling centers

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>Angry at anonymous shitposting

>>121530764

Not enough new content yet. Wait until Citadel expansion. Then there are plenty of reasons to re-sub.

>>121530764
Use hours for plex to send me all your stuff. Then you will have nothing to come back to.

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>>121532231
>>121532532
2l8 m8
2l8

Pls send help ;_; I'm poor NEET and I shouldn't be spending money on vydya games. I won't even have money for Christmas presentI'm not begging just send some physician

>>121533396
I'm like you m8. You know what it means? It means you gonna play this game till you can pay a plex. Because you need to save that 15$

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>>121533396

>>121533940
Let's say i want on the Incursion gravy train, what's a good ship to commadeer?

I got BS 5 and related skills for Missile and Drones (i use Rattlesnake, most of the time) and i have logi skills

>>121534950
literally anything on the Warp To Me incursion ship list but no one will take your rattlesnake

>>121534950
do not attempt to use
>rattlesnake
>raven (of any kind)
>drone-based battleship
>missile-based battleship
do attempt to use
>vindicator (hyperion or rokh first if necessary)
>machariel (maelstrom first if necessary
>nightmare (some navy issue >amarr battleship first if necessary, i forget which one)
if you want to logi you must have
>either logi 4 or 5
>either basilisk or scimitar

>>121534950
Shield logistics is probably cheapest and easier to travel with.

any good corps in test

>>121535998
>any corp in test
>good

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What turret specialty should I train?

Lasers
>best against shield tank
>no ammo/no reload/swap delays
>>>amarr
>it's the most straightforward type, all optimal almost no falloff
>just stay in range and shoot things

Hybrids
>mixed damage type, meaning it may always be halved
>half reload/swap relay
>feasible cap usage
>extreme long ranges, extreme short ranges (with skyhigh untanked DPS)
>very situational, depending on ship types and tactics

Projectiles
(I don't know much)
>naturally best towards armor tank, somehow gets a bit of omnidamage for balanse )))))
>full reload/swap delay
>no cap usage
>autocannons have high dps but rely mostly on falloff; artillery also relies on falloff
>if you like a RNG gameplay

>>121536505
the hybrids, purely because they're used most often in all sorts of shit

I wouldn't choose lasers purely because they're amarr exclusive ships, the ships have bad capacitor, and no mid slots.

with hybrids you can do caldari or gallente

>>121536458

i just want to have fun

;_;

>>121536753
go join anyone else but brave or test, they're literally shit, its full of spergs and retards you might as well not even think of them as anything other than cancer

>>121536894

all out it is then

>>121537026
I thought you wanted a good corp

>>121537118

i don't know what i want anymore, i've lost everything and i'm homeless

>>121537223
don't join these fuckers
>test
>brave anything , that includes brave squid or noobies
>all-out or any fucking meme corp

the sky is your limit

also don't join goons they're shit


DO JOIN

Pandemic legion

>>121537364

can you point me in the right direction at least

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>>121536505
we can't really tell you what to train unless you have an idea of what you are going to try to do with it.

You missed that artillery has the best alpha by far. This makes it good for, among other things, large fleets where you are able to drop ships before their logi can react to save them (if you are in null) or ganking high-tank pinatas in hisec before concord arrive in the safer systems. Also, projectiles in general have the best damage selection by far - but because of their ability to hit any resist hole, their damage is comparatively lower than other systems. If you don't learn the resists of various ships and your (many) ammo types, you will simply have lower damage than other people.

if you are wanting to learn to pvp in any setting but nullblob (so, solo, small gang, gang, etc), ditching turrets entirely in favor of missiles means you don't have to think about tracking or transversal at all, allowing you to concentrate on and learn other things (of which there are plenty to keep track of).

I can't really comment on hybrids or lasers because I don't use hybrids yet and I only use lasers on confessors so far.

>>121537026
dank

>>121537364
>working for bank of america is shit
>working for mcdonalds
>working for amtrak is shit
>DO WORK FOR
>google
while you might be correct, you are not being very helpful

>>121537661
pic
also what do you want to do and how old are you

>>121535727
>>121535535
>>121535060

So i'll go get myself a Basilisk then, thank you fellas. Gonna go check for fits.

>>121538084
>if you are wanting to learn to pvp in any setting but nullblob (so, solo, small gang, gang, etc), ditching turrets entirely in favor of missiles means you don't have to think about tracking or transversal at all, allowing you to concentrate on and learn other things (of which there are plenty to keep track of).
I already am on the path of drones and missiles, but I figured you just need a turret spec

I'm thinking of going for the jackdaw and - the new corax T2 is most likely gonna be rails right?

>>121538084
>also what do you want to do and how old are you

i like the idea of citadels even though they are a while away, small gang but still hold sov, kill foreigners

1 year

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>>121533396
>>121533683
I'm already feeling it.

The dreamy music, the interface in >Amarr market, that sense of unlimited possibilities when I gaze on the ISIS

This is what I missed. Best 15€ ever.

Still I'm like a drugo and I should seek professional help

>>121537661
join waffles

>>121539373

gonna vouch for me?

>>121539373
this, if you meet the reqs and don't mind a bit of srs bzns in your internet spaceships

>>121539539
you don't need a vouch for waffles

>>121539164
I'm a professionnal

Buy your crack you whore.

>>121539541
>>121539595

how do you make money in waffles

>>121540597
you either plex, or use an alt out of the corp to do what ever you want making money

I have an alt that does incursions and station trading for my money

>>121540673
one of the requirements is that you have some way of making money that is not PVE on your waffles character.

>>121540673

no alt and i'm not spending more money on the game than i already do

>>121540895
doesn't have to be a different account, of course. you could pause your queue and start rolling a character on the same account designed to make money. it's about 2 months to make a WTM-acceptable character. I get a kick out of station trading so honestly I'd do that though.

>>121540784
>one of the requirements is that you have some way of making money that is not PVE on your waffles character.
Which is why everyone has an alt to do secondary content with PVE or what ever for their money

The main in Waffles cannot do PVE what so ever they definitely look down at it.

the waffles character has to be the PVP main

>>121540895
you could drop a plex on a secondary character besides your main on the second account, train up all your station trading skills, give it a little money to invest in, and trade on margins, that makes a lot of money exponentially the more you make the more you invest.

If you're not down for waffles go join Pandemic Horde, they're FAR more friendly in the PVE regard and they do a lot of operations with Waffles

>>121540895
Join Pandemic Horde then

Ok this is a very specific request. I am trying to find an old (before 2012?) North Korean propaganda poster with several Moroses (Moroi?) in it.

>>121541229
>>121541231
>>121541263

thanks guys, i'll join horde and throw down to start training a second character

>>121541738
Yea, if you ever want to get on Waffle Ops, get IRC and stuff set up, they should have guides to that really easy so you can get content virtually 23/7

I'm not kidding, Waffles is so stupidly active they get fights at almost every waking moment

>>121541738
yeah if you do well in PH - are proactive, find content, lead people, etc - getting into waffles later will be a cinch. from there, same applies again (but more so) about getting into PL.

>>121536505
projectiles have the highest skill cap
therefore they are always the best because a skilled player will push the weapons system further
fact

>>121542196
Fucking hardly, Projectiles do shit damage in the face of blasters and their tracking is worse. The range difference doesn't fucking matter purely because hybrids push so much harder

doing an artillery ship is a gimp fit because they use so much PG

it doesn't matter "its a higher skill ceiling" the weapon system sucks

>>121543087
shoot your hybrids at my t2 caldari resists bruh :^)
brb loading em/explosive

>>121543208
>shoot your hybrids at my t2 caldari resists bruh :^)
and lasers would be better at pummeling through your shield than EMP

did you know a hurricane with heavy pulses does more damage at longer range than autocannons do?

>>121543336
Assuming the right resist profile, and at the cost of 1 mid for cap booster and your utility neut.

>>121544145
a hurricane in general will still need a cap booster to run its mods and shit

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>>121541342
Took me some serious google-fu but I found it.