Eve Online General - /eog/

>>121736280
First for White Stag Exit Bag

doesn't look like results for the first day are published anywhere yet for the tournament or i'd post them

>memes

Reposting details of the Pilgrimage :

>Monday, 16th November 2015
>6pm EVE Time (GMT + 0/UTC)
>Meet at the station in Imya, Genesis

We'll meet up and form a fleet in Imya. Fly a fast aligning and cheap frig in case we get our asses ganked.

Route:
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/route/2:Imya:New_Eden

Feel free to leave suggestions and vote if you're coming : http://strawpoll.me/5947061

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>cats

>Russians trying to bait me with pod fleets
>they don't know I saw their Nemesis
>board stealth hull, log off
top troll m8s, enjoy wasting your time

>>121738837
WHy is there so many retard baiters everywhere ? I swear i can't go out of a station without a Suspect Tayra or soem other shit beign stationned here. It's ridiculous

>>121738837
>not baiting the bait

>multiple characters on same account doing PI
can a single character access all 3 networks on a planet at once?
or do you have to switch characters and fly to each planet 3 separate times?

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>T3Cs

>>121736280
is all-out the neo tengoo genesis

>>121740128
>can a single character access all 3 networks on a planet at once?

lol no

How much cytoserocin is traded through hisec hubs? Considering investing in gas cloud harvesting for extra wormhole plundering, but I don't have the resources to actually manufacture boosters.

>>121741521
Join All-Out today, we're being >evicted by dropbears

>>121747018
oh wait i'm retarded, wh gas is fullerenes.

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Are there incursion fleets in low/null?

>>121748676
Yes.

they are not public.

Join goonswarm or PL for that.

they shit out double LP/ISK per site and allow an extra 10 vindis in.

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>Dogs
>Also, Undocking

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>ship spinning

>>121753560
Why is there a number to see how many times I've spun my ship? I've been doing it for five minutes now to see if anything happens.
Also, Goo Girl Kate inside my Space Pod when?

How do I get the old probe scanning shit back I don't like this new shit at all

>>121747264
a decent amount

>>121754151
Nothing happens. Its just a thing you do when you're bored and waiting for the rest of your fleet.

>Goo girl Kate
Jove please go. Do not lewdify Kate

>>121754832
Turn it off in the settings, it's next to the option to turn off the beta map. You may have to dock and undock afterward, unless that was fixed.

>>121755748
Yeah took me a while to find it thanks

DED THREAD
DED GAME
DED COMPLEX

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>>121761908

>>121761908
5/10

>Amarr

>Gallente

>caldari

>aMERICA

>minmatar

>snuff box

>snuffed out

>eu dream team

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>/Eog/

>shadow cartel

WHO /PLAYFALLOUT4WHILEMINING/ HERE?

>tri

>>121771191
I personally jerk off while mining.

So I'm trying to fit out a bestower in a way that'll make it less likely to get murdered. It's amarr, so the first assumption would be armor mods buuut those are all in low slots and I'd really love to use the low slots for expanded cargoholds. Is there something I'm not seeing, or do I just get to stick shield extenders on?

>>121772206
>So I'm trying to fit out a bestower in a way that'll make it less likely to get murdered.

Don't autopilot, problem solved.

>>121772337
That doesn't change the fact that an eighteen second align time isn't great, though.

>>121772206
align quick, don't autopilot, try not to carry more than 80m in your cargo

>>121772535
Then I guess you'll have to pick between expanded cargoholds or intertial stabilizers.

>>121772206
If you want to not die fly a sigil instead

the high cargo t1 industrials are all maximum gankbait

>>121772949
This, use the high tank variants like the Miasmos. Their tank far supersedes the Iteron Mark V with far less cargo capacity but you're so much less likely to get ganked carrying 200m worth of shit in a miasmos purely because the tank is so huge

>>121772949
>>121773513
I hadn't actually thought about that, Sigil looks like a good option. Thoughts on what to look at for mid slots?

>>121773667
>Thoughts on what to look at for mid slots?
the miasmos has more mids so if you use those mids to shield tank and the lows to use cargo extenders that could work really well

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>>121773667
something like this I guess, cargo rigs leave the ehp a little low still if you're worried about ganks

>>121773765
the miasmos is the ore hauler dude

>>121774593
>the miasmos is the ore hauler dude
fuck me sorry its called the Nereus

>>121774593
>11k shield from two large extenders
Fucking what
oh, I'm not used to seeing rigging. I guess I should learn that shit.
You'd go with one adaptive and one EM over two adaptive or one EM one thermal?

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>>121774593

>>121774593
>using active resist boosters
if you're at the computer, just manually warp. If you're not at the computer, use passive resist modules instead.

>>121775441
>not used to seeing rigging
That's a core skill in fitting.

>>121775889
The account is five days old. It's added to the Grand List of Shit, though.

>>121776021
You don't need skills for them, can fit T2 even

>>121776180
Huh. So they are. T2 is a bit out of price range, though.

>>121775863
it's not an instaceptor faggot

being active and clicking warp doesn't do anything if there's a ganker there and you fit shitty tank

>inb4 telling the newfag to use a webbing alt

>>121775741
and you can make a badger that's even tankier, I just used the race he's got trained since he's new enough that he's using them for anything

>>121777008
nigga this isn't /co/

>>121777126
sorry senpai

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>tfw drowning in money

>>121777724
WHOP YORE WALLET ON THE COUNTA

>>121777724
>make 100m an hour
what do I do with it. I've never had cash so easy before

>>121778578
Just buy shit and kill people

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wheres the aliens in this game

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Is this a ruse or is CCP calculating skills client side with brain in a box?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfUbysEq_5o&feature=youtu.be

>>121779406
we are the aliens, anon

>>121779570
I cant wait for the mass ban when people start messing with skill queues

>>121779570
>capri sun kraftfoods

Figures he would be the one going fast.

>>121779570
fairly fast fuccboi

>>121779570
>use this opportunity to make a couple of deep safes
i love eve players

>>121781163
I thought it was only possible to do up to 14 au extra from the solar system radius or the deep safe gets moved or deleted.

>>121782158
as he said in the video, this bug couldn't be used to make deep safes - or even probably to slowboat between celestials. it's not fast enough. but i'm amused that it was almost the first thing omeone thought of to use it for.

Is there any benefit of using corp to set buy/sell orders?

>>121779570

So, ships are moving like they should?
Acceleration continues rather than maxing out as if we're in a liquid?

But still holy fuck is brain in the box that buggy all the time or was that some major client bug? It still gives us the worry about client side manipulation/hacks which would kill eve forever like other client side based mmo's (archage etc).

>>121747256
That was an insrt fuckup plz dont blame us that abortion of an op was literally a last minute shitshow

Newfag who was asking about bestower fits here, I've got an unoccupied impel bookmarked in a wormhole with an exit to highsec. Trial accounts can't drive impels, though, so I'd like to sell the location. Contact Kalnid i'Xiia if you're interested.

>>121787615
Whats the star type, number of sites, are there any other POSes in the hole? Is it a c1 or a c6 or what?

>>121787784
C2, three wormholes and a gas site. Were a couple of data/relic sites but I cleared them out. There's I think two or three other POSs in the hole, but no forcefields on dscan. Star's a red giant. Entry wormhole is at beginning to decay.

>>121787926
Other than the one the impel is at, to clarify.

>>121787926
>two or three other POSes
>he wants to sell it
HAHAHAHA. And new you certainly are.

>>121788160
The impel, not the hole. I spent probably the better part of an hour clearing out data sites, so there's probably not anyone murderous at the moment. Unless I'm missing something?

>>121788313
Is the entrance in Lonetrek or close by?

is the impel inside a forcefield by any chance
lmao

>>121788757
I mean, I didn't think 'no forcefields on dscan' left a lot of room for question.

>>121788708
Nowhere near, it's in Tash.

>>121788950
you seem awfully confidant for a newb

>>121789091
Blame it on having played like five years ago and reading three different blogs before starting the trial.

>>121788950
how about you warp to it and see smartass

>>121790196
I did, that's how I got the bookmark on the tower it's next to. There's no field up.

>>121789231
t h r e e

>>121790407
if theres any hangers floating blow that shit up and loot it

>>121792510
There's a bunch of hangars but my firepower is pretty shit, nothing stronger than a destroyer. Enough to manage it in a timely manner?

How to win fights against noobs in lowsec 101 :

1. Lock them from a distance near a gate/station but don't shoot
2. Watch as many of them lock you back and start shooting
3. Ayy lmao

Also for best results, fly a frigate and target ships bigger than you. Many of them will warp away but you'll still get a sizable amount of retards.

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>>121792954

>>121792937
I'd liketo know this too. Can I blow up a hangar without dreads, bombers or ishtars or does it have millions of hp like any other structure?

>>121793351
>>121792510
they have like 20k to 50k ehp, easily soloable in afew minutes of shooting with litrally anything

>>121786204
oh lol I didn't realise it was client side. Literally rip EVE.

>>121792510
And then three stratioses popped out. Your instruction is appreciated.

>>121797101
Not that guy, but it honestly hadn't occured to me that it might be bait. That is actually pretty clever.

>>121797101
>>121797258
It now occurs to me you probably meant that there were three Stratios hulls stored in there.

>>121797343
Yeah no I mean out of the dead hangars. Woulda been a heck of a shock if it was bait though.

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>>121797658
so what you're telling us is that you are prepared to sell someone the bookmark to 3 stratios and an impel in a wormhole with an HS exit?

pic related, and 20% of that is 768m ish, which is probably where you should start your offer and see what people say.

>>121801893
Nah, the stratioses were all packaged, moved them out. Impel's still there, though.

>>121802297
Were the Stratioses white and red? Because I think they were mine.

>>121802754
I'm, uh. Pretty sure stratioses are white and red by default.

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>>121802948

>taking anon's stratii when he's not looking

>>121803303
How do I activate my Biggest Bully title

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What's in your queue today /dog/?

>>121804582
Sharpshooter V one one account, Interceptors V on the other. I may take a break from training those but for now it's the default.

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>>121804582

>>121804582

T2 triage.

Should be done by December.

Alt is doing t2 hic bubble as well. Finally a reason worth getting it.

How much have you spent on cute clothes for your alt?

>>121804582
Minamatr destroyer V

>>121805769
About 500 mil for my alt
Close to 800mil for my main

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>>121804582

>>121797101
congrats, nice find
just shoot the impel for a dank KM in my opinion to be honest family

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Lel, I shot some of his rats in the site.

>>121804582
HAM's for my Legion. Only 11 days to go.

help, someone is trying to buy a wormhole i found but they only speak nip

>>121809514

Tell him this, he'll understand

内部射精の快楽

>>121809634
That's not how you spell nakadashi, though.

>>121809196
>set him back for literally pennies
>he wastes even more money as "revenge"

Okay.

>>121810380
Emotions can run wild

>>121809514
And then the nips actually paid out 200m for the hole after checking it. Shit, maybe I should've scanned down the other towers and popped them too, see what fell out.

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SHIEEEEET

>>121813549
and people say hisec anoms aren't worth it lol
i really need to try some for a while and get a feel for the escalation rates

>>121815168
They aren't, he would have made 3 times the money in null or WH.

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>>121804582

>>121816384

VNI ratting in catch is getting me a measly 17m per tick (12 with a ess up). That's really shit money compared to sansha relics which hit 100m/hr. If you could consistently get those kinds of high sec escalations you'd be better off than I am. At least you're not hawking local.

>>121818343
Who said anything about VNI ratting, thats to afk.
You could easily do 10/10 escalations and pull 500mil per hour or C6 for 1,5bil per hour.

>>121818514

>could

WH needs multiple people or toons, loots got to get out and be sold.
Escalations are still loot fairy RNG, but in general do have 50-100m of bounty.

The ratting is obviously leaving out the odd faction spawn. I guess it was my fault for comparing an active task of finding sites and escalations against afk ratting.

>>121818928
>WH needs multiple people or toons
kek

>>121818343
17m is more than you get in sma space with an ishtar, kek

>>121819654

I assume that's just because of competition or something. I've never lived in cfc land. It's the land of mystery and plans upon plans carried out by the megalomaniacs at the top.

>>121818343
Stop measuring relics/data sites in isk/hr. That's not how this shit works.

>>121820221

I've found that it works when dealing with intact plates. Agreed it's not direct isk payout. Don't have a general way to describe the income from relics.

ded site

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>>121823329

>>121813549
>10 people in vbros
ded as fuck

>>121824881
rude
it's reclining

Old player back after 2, almost 3 years , put too many hours into and Was always shit, only once ever won a pvp fight , and that was out of sheer luck
Anyways , probobly alot has changed , anyone got the basics/most imporant stuff that has changed since around mid 2013ish ?

>>121830292
sov isn't about bashing structures any more, it's about king of the mountain for the first round and then capture the control points for the second.

um
jump range got hugely nerfed so null empires are more restricted on where they can escalate with their caps

relic and data sites have a minigame to hack now, the loot spew was removed. between this and mobile tractor units making salvage a lot easier to get, salvage prices have dropped.

there's a new universe map which is pretty ok and recently a new scanning map with keyboard shortcuts for probe manipulation and dscan, which really appeals to the explorer in me

the CFC rebranded to the Imperium to benefit mitten's irl RMT, downsized considerably, and restructured their rental system. Black Legion has disbanded. Hero disbanded (maybe?) and Brave crumbled, left sovnull and is now in calmil and rebuilding. C6 wormhole space is controlled by renting russians (their leader was recently banned for RMT though), NoHo is dead and all the wormhole pvp groups are now in C5s intead.

t3 destroyers with in-space mode-switching and no skill loss were created, proved to be incredibly versatile and everyone is flying them now. there are now less reasons to fly assault frigs than there were before.

sleepers are doing spooky things and have been seen outside wormholes. the amarr empress was assassinated by a faction that seems to be somehow associated with the sleepers and who are known for stealing bodies and repurposing them - possibly for reuploading the brains the sleepers are protecting.

there's been a couple of rendering improvements and ships look better. there's been UI updates in many areas - neocom icons are now monochrome and flat, ship/drone overview icons reworked to give more information, corp management interface improved (a little bit).

cont..

>>121830292
cont from >>121831639

plex climbed to about a bil around the time you left, ccp banned input broadcasting for multiboxers and a lot of accounts were unsubbed and plex dropped down to about 600m. then ccp introduced ship skins and other ways of spending aurum and the plex market started rising again and it's around 1.2b now i think.

all-out celebrated its first birthday a week or so ago. oruze is still memeing strong and you should still >join tengoo.

Been bored and thinking of ways you could crash the EVE economy
Ofcorse if someone(s) sonehow managed this, A ban and a wave of a finger from CCP would set things right again, but it's still an inresting thing to think about
> a dozen or so of the richest players (or a single player if he has the money, I don't know the numbers speificly ) in eve get together and decide that something cheap, but required in production shall be theirs, something like pyrite ?
> so they get together and buy out all the pyrite on the market , and keep on doing so till most if not all the pyrite is owned by them
> things like pos that require alot of isk will eat up the reserves, and pyrite prices rise to ridiclous levels
> then turn around and sell trillions of pyrite across the market at a price of 1 isk
You can't cause a crash but you can royal fuck it up

>BDCI finally left

Oh boy I can't wait for fleet numbers to not change even a little bit.

>>121834002
CCP wouldn't give a fuck. Not to mention your argument is retarded.
>hey guys let's crash the market of an item that can be generated anywhere XD

>>121834002
> ban and a wave of a finger from CCP would set things right again
CCP: was getting caught part of your plan?
Big guy Corp : yes
CCP: Well you got yourself caught! Now what's the next step in your master plan?
Big guy Corp : crashing this economy with no surivors ..

Is the person who did the 5/10 in a memefleet with me here?

>>121840340
On mobile but not at home atm

>>121841156
Possible online in the next 8 hours?

>>121841442
Almost certainly, but not reliably until after midnight central time (about 7.5 hours). Possibly within the next couple of hours though.

Debating wether or not to start playing. The game seems huge, and I'd like to be a part of it, but it'll probably be overwhelming and I've always sucked at vidya anyway.
Also not sure if I want to pay fifteen bucks for a game I'll be playing for, on average, maybe an hour a day.

Is the game less fun if you suck? Is it doable to not play for long periods of time at once? Do I need to be a Wolf of Jita Street to get rich?

>>121843228
>Is the game less fun if you suck?

Short answer No
Long answer Yes

If you're just cool with having someone FC for you and being a retarded line member you will get fun from the game to a certain point.

If you actually go do shit in the game, undock every day, with or without your fleet and start doing random shit your eyes will open to what EVE really is.

grath sure looks different than I expected not as different as say elo looks from his voice but still.

At the moment I've just joined a good corp (BTC anyone?), I have a Caracal Navy for PvE and in 3 days I'll be ready for a mining barge with Strip Miner II's. An

For PvE, would I recommended to go for a Drake and then a battleship, or should I go for a T2 Cruiser?

>>121813549
When you change regions, you'll notice a few good luck hits like this, even in hisec. I got a LG halo omega in hisec and i've always noticed ratting gets a slight improvement from rngsus when you travel.
Saw a guy get three officers in his forst fortnight in nullsec, i've seen three in 6 years. There are other stats in play than we are told about, the map remembers where you've been and rewards leaving your comfort zone.

>>121834002
Pyerite spawns erry day.
Also: implying people don't already do this on a wide range of commodities all across the map.

For a small ship, it's better to have 2 resist rigs or 1 resist and 1 core extender?

>>121846041
depends if you're plugging a resist hole or going for raw ehp, the extender gives you a bigger sig, can't remember if the resists do.

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>>121846041
it depends
how about giving more information

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>>121844378
I don't really travel much.

>>121846374
>>121846424
Thrasher for the higher angel sites. The dessies, elite frigs and target painting is tearing my butthole, so I'm planning on dropping one of the 200 calibration rigs and giving it something other.

>>121844038

PvE:

Nullbear ratting just get a VNI drone boat.
Nullbear ded sites get a tengu or rattlesnake.

The above applies to low sec ratting/deds as well. There's no real need for ishtars for ratting. Don't mine unless you really, really need to. It slow as balls and worse money than VNI ratting. Unless you've got yourself the good null only ore, but that means you're producing, selling locally or have a buyback.

>>121846676
>I don't really travel much.
Not many do, it's weird.

>>121843228
Most people in the game suck and are unable to do shit unless they group with other bads. So whether you're one of those or not as bad as you think, there's room in the game.
Not playing for long periods is fine since training happens in real time, but you will want goals or a decent group (i.e. newb corps out of highsec) so you don't just spin your ship in station or do missions when you can play.

Having checked the current market price for plex and seeing how much you make for various activities, am I correct in saying it's near impossible to become self-sustainable within less than half a year?

>>121846676
For PVE, and if you have a shield extender in mid slots, resist + core rig is good. If you are using a shield booster go for all resist rigs.

>>121843228
>do i need to be wolf of jita street to get rich?
tfw i realized yesterday that with 10 days of trade skills on a flat remap and 2b in capital you can make 800m a month by logging into a single character twice a day. i'm seriously considering pulling my scout out of her hole, putting those 10 days on her as well and setting her up trading in a different hub with my current liquid capital. Then after a month or so i might be able to start plexing a second account

>>121848213
Its a lot harder than it used to be but its not impossible by a long shot

incursion runners can make a 500m in a weekend for like 3 hours combined and come out with that much. Multiply that by two weekends or even 3 if you're salty and you can really make enough.

I used to be able to pay my subscription through a secondary exhumer alt I had, I'd play eve but let my second character run in the back ground while I did homework and shit, by the end of the month I'd pay like 400m for a plex and I had like 120m left over. However now that its over a billion I can't really do that as often as I used to. I probably could still do it but it'd take WAY longer to do

>>121848328
>earning money just by logging in
How does that even work?

>>121846676
forgot my pic

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>>121848328
>trading session 15mins
>twice a day = 30min a day
>30 days = 15 hours a month
>less than 100m/hr
L O L

>>121848689
He means trading, and with only 2b he's probably doing full autismo station flipping.

>>121848213
everything depends on the speed with which you grok the game and the wisdom of the choices you make. a guy from here paid for his first plex during his first week of trial by doing balls to the wall null exploration out of thera. once you have capital, station trading snowballs in effectiveness with number of characters. once you understand the market, trading between regions can be very lucrative relative to the investment. three characters doing PI on one account in a good wormhole can put out half a plex to a plex per month depending on what you're making and how autismal you are. etc, etc.

mining on one account? nope
missioning in hisec? nope
any of the afk null ratting setups? nope

>>121849014
How? imo the max per character is around 800m/h via wh escalations

>>121849021

>mining on one account? nope
>missioning in hisec? nope
>any of the afk null ratting setups? nope

You can plex easily on any of these three, lmao

>>121849209
crack dealing m8

>>121849014
yeah, yeah, i'm making measurable improvement though
i'll catch you one day

>53m/hr for something that can be done without undocking, without any risk, that scales perfectly with number of characters and that i haven't even scratched the surface of in terms of sp yet
>something that you can do with 10 days of sp, compared to, say, 60 days of sp to sit in a shitfit ISKtar or tengu

>>121849209
he's trading on a very large scale

>>121849262
you can plex on any of those, sure
"easily" means different things to different people; maybe you're ok with the amount of time needed doing those things per month to plex. I'm not. many people are not. look at minerbro; he was running 7 accounts and making a plex a week by mining 4-5 hours a day, but he burned the fuck out or something cause i haven't seen him post in months.

>>121849826
>i'll catch you one day
That was a yearly stat. So good luck next year.

>he's trading on a very large scale
1.8mil sp I probably had the same number of orders as you.

>>121851198
phở

but yeah, as i've learned - while orders does mean a good bit, capital means way way more.

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>mfw accidentally talking to ladyboy degenerate charlie cong

so, 20 days left of my free trial. Im loving it so far. Eve veterans tell me, is the player population declining or should i renew memebership

>>121857467
it's a meme

>>121857467
The population doesn't matter. It's stable.

The question is do you have enough imagination to have fun in the game?

>>121860460
I think the population does matter for a game thats oriented around interactions with other players.

I know the game is only as boring as you are

>>121857467
population is dying but you should stay subbed since you've never played it before.

>>121860916
except when it says "26k players" its not really 26000 different people thats just accounts logged in

>>121857467
it's up to you how much fun you have, some people see freedom like that as terrifying and demanding. They're right.
Don't be impressed by these spaec rainmen making $10 per hour and thinking they are stealing heaven. Adults with jobs just sell plex and do whatever they want because making isk ingame is fuckin retarded.

>>121857467
Population is at its lowest but its stable and there is a lot to do, the whole dying thing is just a epic reddit meme some faggots brought over here to shitpost.

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>adults pay money for fake vidya cash

>>121860956
>>121860998
>>121861113
>>121861213
Alright thanks, guess i can play for a few months and see how it turns out. Btw what skill should i focus on as a noob? I wanna do some exploration (mining, hacking etc) and some pvp pirating

>>121861607
yeah, it's a thing called being time poor but money rich. The money for a plex is chicken feed, but 3 hours to do anything for play money is nuts.
Every thread has these weirdos who spend a few minutes a day making bazillions of monopoly money.
I sell plexes to those who have time to shoot red crosses, when they groan about having to go grind isk to make their sub for the month i just shrug and go burn 10 svipuls trolling FW lowsec.
Remember kids, 80m isk is about a dollar. That's a minute's pay to someone with an ok job.

>>121862037
>I wanna do some mining
Lol no you don't.

Just go for exploration for ISK making and pvp for fun making.

>>121862037
Mining is not really exploration and exploration (scanning skills) only overlap with PvP when it comes to WHs.

As for "pvp pirating" you could try FW on T1 frigates like tristan, kestrel, merlin, incursus, breacher and stuff.

>>121862183
>60$/hour, okay job
the fuck you live

>>121862037
The usual circuit people run is 1)git gud 2)make some friends 3)WH corp for turbo jewing 4)pvp corp or sov for combat lols.
There's ways to mix that up, sov alliances have wh corps or do daytrips for pve grind. You can ninja pve sites of all kinds in null, refit out of depots for pvp. Up to you.

>>121862193
ok, i dont wanna mine

>>121862387
>FW on T1 frigates like tristan, kestrel, merlin, incursus, breacher and stuff.
huh?
also whats WHs

>>121862594
Faction Warfare
Wormholes
you know google is your friend

>>121862387
>Incursus
That reminds me of a fight I had with a dual rep incursus. Fucking bullshit outhealed me although it couldn't hit me because I speedtanked it.
>>121862594
WHs = wormholes. Also known as W-Space.

>>121862594
wormholes, aka bob's gift to new eden and the bringer of justice to carebears and nullbears and linkbears everywhere

>>121862716
>bringer of justice to carebears
That's CODE.

>>121862594
one thing i'd recommend is joining the chat channels "/v/ bros" or "DoomedFromTheStart" when you're ingame, for starters. this will get you in contact with the 4chan users who actually log into the game.

>>121862471
Australia, self employed.
That's why i never get into this discussion online. If you work some shitty service sector job and think $15 is gonna cramp your style, but still have time to grind play money, then your life is all backwards and i can't relate.
Props if the wallet is your eve scoreboard, but i was meh about that after i made my first 800m. Took me ages shooting npc haulers and ratting null solo in a thrasher, then a cyclone. Bought my first plex 3 years in and realised chasing isk is fucking dumb. Now i could plex my account with 2 toons doing null PI for the alliance buyback, but even 10 minutes a day is a drag, i log on to have fun. Shit, i'll mine mercoxit just to collapse a morphite market, i'll pay people to camp people just for lols, but i'll never log on to grind up isk.

>>121862819
if only CODE wasn't full of fags and had more fun fags

>>121862683
>Fucking bullshit outhealed me although it couldn't hit me because I speedtanked it.
2 rep inc vs mwd tristan, nobody wins.
i love my 2 rep incursus but it has to drop on somebody because even mwd fit it's not gonna cure this kitey meta

>>121863073
set it up yourself, killing hisec non combat ships aint no challenge. Hay guise let's go catalyst some retrievers whoo whoo

>>121863289
Good thing the tristan is getting its shit nerfed.

Fucking t1 minmatar frigs need a bigger buff instead of that small cpu and powergrid boost.

>>121863441
ye but i'm complaining about 0 effort killboard padding you shoudl realise that
1. I already can do this myself
2. I'm a huge fag that just wants le social aspect of this ded game

>>121863818
>0 effort killboard padding

literally who cares, people gank for the pleasure, the tears and the money, not to pad their killboard

>>121863904
not CODE

>this book

Can I waste a player's playtime by orbiting and pointing his capsule?

The only things I see standing in my way are the daily maintenances and me getting bumped.

>>121865917
He'll either rip his implants and log out or do nothing

you're not really wasting anyone's time but your own

>tfw writing epic book about tengoo but nobody will gimme all that jewish cash

>>121865990
>rip his implants
That's a win situation to me since I don't get a standing hit
>logout
Win situation again since he doesn't get to play

I can always afk and his capsule will not autowatp away since it's pointed yes?

>>121866447
>That's a win situation to me since I don't get a standing hit
you get a standing hit for killing the pod, not killing implants

The pod (or any ship) makes a call for one warp away, if it gets pointed at any time in that, it stops and the ship stays until the timer logs out

but what you're proposing is just a waste of your own time

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Why is this sexy bitch so goddamn hot?

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>>121867292
An ass worth cynoing for.

>>121867541
>being on the undock of jita with a JF
>in goon space

>>121867661
>being on the undock of jita with a JF
fucks gonna happen?

>in goon space
thats Jita too, or Perimeter
I ain't no filthy goon

>>121867857
Goons are notorious for ganking freighters

the amount of freighter ganking is through the roof in recent days. Its extremely unsafe to boat the JF through highsec anymore

>>121867992
Notorious for ganking shitters you mean.
You should never die in a JF, literally impossible if you don't have downs.

Give me one reason why I shouldn't join karmafleet

>>121868113
>You should never die in a JF, literally impossible if you don't have downs.
I'm not kidding when I say this, they have tornados that prowl near by jumping stations and they gank your cyno, gank your web alt, gank any other cyno they can find then attempt to gank your freighter

Which is the primary reason no one travels in JF's in highsec at all without a webbing alt, hoping that even works, since all it takes to cancel your warp is an instalocking point from a t1 frig or some shit.

People who don't die to ganks only use their JF in lowsec exclusively and they light perfect cynos and they cover all their bases

>>121868252
they're goon shitters who just rat all day

>>121868371
I've traveled 7 times today between home and Jita moving shit worth over 6bil and I never use webbing alts, I do have an extra secret cyno ship in a dead end system in a station nobody uses but that's about it.

>>121868573
have fun when goons come to get you.

Theres an insane number of kills that happen in highsec, just for your information

even with the tank buff over a regular freighter, freighters are insanely easy to gank with a few catalysts and talos's

>>121868371
You're high nigga, nobody goes to those extremes unless its a very specific target they hate or got paid to kill.

>>121868771
woops forgot the link

https://zkillboard.com/group/902/losses/

>>121868814
>You're high nigga, nobody goes to those extremes unless its a very specific target they hate or got paid to kill.
Yea they fucking do

you think I'm tin foil hating or some shit, goons go out of their way to spy into PL and every other one's freighters, watch lists them and ganks them

They do go to those lengths

https://zkillboard.com/kill/49995656/

heres just one of many goon ganks

>>121868771
>oh no a lot of machs ready to bump me
>good thing I have this handy cyno alt docked and ready to bail me out
>undock cyno alt light cyno, jump
>oh no super tryhard impossible shit anon probably made up tornado just uncloaked, too bad he can't target me for like 15 seconds because of decloak and even then a nado with sebos takes over 3 seconds to target a rookie ship
stop.

>>121843710
nokekbody is surprised by this? please tell me you fags have been playing for a week tops

>>121869052
>>good thing I have this handy cyno alt docked and ready to bail me out
>some rando goon ganks your cyno in a cockbag thrasher or tornado

>can't jump anyway because you're pointed

>tornado uncloaks
they don't uncloak, they undock with you

>>121869118
The only guy we care about is Gor since he's our guy.

>>121869290
gor is reddits guy oh wait i forgot where i was :smiley face:

>>121869170
>they don't uncloak, they undock with you
even better they'll probably miss at point blank

>can't jump anyway because you're pointed
this thing called gate cloak lets you insta jump.

>>121869052
>a nado with sebos takes over 3 seconds to target a rookie ship
you realize rookie ships are frigates and have the same sig radius as frigates and sometimes larger right?

a tornado can instalock and kill a pod, but you think a rookie ship is more immune?

>>121869427
>theres this thing called gate cloak
and your cyno is still dead to a cockbag thrasher or a tornado

>>121869524
>a tornado can instalock and kill a pod, but you think a rookie ship is more immune?
do you even play EVE?
Try it right now friendo, undock with a frigate and try to kill it as you're moving with him.

>thrasher
not tanking your emergency exit cynos
muh 6k ehp velator

>n-n-no guys I'm immune to ganks because I thought a head, I outsmarted the goons by having a back up cyno, even though I'm heavily relying on contingency that is almost equally vulnerable and prone to getting ganked
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49760819/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49761374/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49731841/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49691645/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/49690385/
>NO NONE OF THOSE COUNT, MUH NARRATIVE

>no they undock together you'll never hit it
relatively speaking since you're aligned in the same vector, transversal even at a few hundred meters is more than likely near zero, perfect especially with things like tracking enhancers/computers and TP's

>thrasher
>muh 6k EHP velator
you're just back pedaling now because you're running out of arguments thinking goons somehow DON'T actively go out of their way to gank people like this

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Guess the ship from my purchase log.

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>goonshill throwing a tantrum

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>relatively speaking since you're aligned in the same vector, transversal even at a few hundred meters is more than likely near zero, perfect especially with things like tracking enhancers/computers and TP's
but you're not, the undocks always throw you at different vectors

>NO NONE OF THOSE COUNT, MUH NARRATIVE
they don't, not without a backstory, at this point you're just linking retards without explaining anything, anything could have happened.

>at least I'm coming up with real arguments not made up shit, link me this dead cyno ships that lead to the death of a JF, this is all tinfoil shit without any evidence.

>>121870504
>they don't, not without a backstory, at this point you're just linking retards without explaining anything, anything could have happened.
>muh back story, its not real because all of these retards didn't have cynos

I'm sure

if you were in PL for more than a year you'd know how often it happens, goons create watch lists using pilots they know, the characters being sold as JF pilots on the character bazaar, they then use KB information to identify cyno characters and alts and compare them to relative data on where the JF pilot sits and where the cyno alts sit.

think its all a magical conspiracy? good luck thinking that I'll look forward to the next nomad I see dead and wonder if it was that naive anon who thought he was ungankable

>>121870447
some kind of meme firetail?

>>121870731
ok mr goonshill

literally nothing happens in 2 years
>muh sandbox
lel

>>121870862
>ok mr goonshill
>The PL player warns some anon about goon ganking that has been happening for years
>blows it off as anecdotes because his anecdote is perfect, then calls the PL player a goon shill

Why would a goonshill warn someone about being ganked? thats like mcdonalds told their customers "don't buy our burgers they'd bad for you"

>>121871036
No, thats like the NSA hinting they're all knowing and all powerful when in fact they monitor jack shit.

>>121871281
That doesn't make sense anon, think for a moment, why would a goonshill tell a potential victim to watch out for ganking, that makes no sense.

>>121871281
lmfao goon shit detected

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>>121870862
Close. It's a slasher

>>121871352
for attention, hence goonshill
"omg spooky goons are smart as fuck and go to extreme impossible lengths to kill someone they must be awesome, you should all watch out or the goon'sll get you"

>>121871490
>for attention, hence goonshill
That still doesn't make sense anon, god damnit use your head. Attention seeking is not a reason why you'd tell a victim you were gonna stab them soon, that literally makes no sense and "attention whoring" doesn't justify that answer

jesus christ take a hint

>>121871441

shit/10 no web.

your TD is useless if you can't control range

>>121871731
Its literally reverse phsycology to make people want to join them because of of how "badass" and"crazy" they are by showing feats and kills.

>>121868252
Goon public corp that rats all day, three pinged fleets every 3 months minimum or you're kicked. I joined because autz is shithouse, introduced myself on the forum in the largest typeface i could. Moderating goon reduced typeface to small print and muted me for three days.
6 years into eve and KF/goons are the biggest shitlers other than PL i've ever met.

>>121871441
>cap booster 50

use navy 50's and get the 9th charge instead of just 8

>overdrive
use a type-D nanofiber, the extra agility will help your TD work better as you ring circles around your opponent faster
>Pseudoelectron containment field
thats an expensive module, sure you can't use the F85?

>rigs
>two burst aerators
use resist rigs instead to help the MASB, otherwise a laser ship is gonna alpha right through you

>>121871935
It's good against bigger ships that can't out speed it.

>>121871986
>Its literally reverse phsycology
No anon, reverse psychology doesn't fucking work like that and it still doesn't make any sense

a goon shill warning you to take extra caution because goons will gank your freighter, only to use "reverse psychology" to make you do more stupid shit? thats obviously not how it works because you're gonna do the same thing you've always been doing

>>121872151

Judging from the AB he wants to use it in Fac War.

Plex fights are all about range control and with no web you gonna have a bad time.

>>121872151
if a tormentor scrams and webs you, he's automatically faster than you and he'll do more damage to you regardless if you use a TD, yea you can TD him to death but his speed is literally double yours at this point and he dictates transversal and range meaning your TD won't work.

Your TD would work on a longer range ship or a ship that doesn't need transversal, like a rocket kestrel or a MWD light missile condor or something

[Slasher, active armor td]
Small Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Damage Control II

Balmer Series Tracking Disruptor I, Optimal Range Disruption Script
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
Small Diminishing Power System Drain I

Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Small Projectile Metastasis Adjuster I

>>121872627
this is an ok fit but it lacks resistance which means the explosive hole and the kinetic hole are wide open

I'd rather go with the MASB fit

[slasher]
Gyrostab
Damage Control II

1mn AB
x5 web
j5b scrambler
MASB w/ navy 50 charges

200mm guns
a neut if you can fit it

rigs:

anti-em resist
anti-therm resist
anti-em resist OR core extender

>>121872119
>F84
Huge drop to my defenses when you remember that I'm shield tanking
>Anti-em screen rig
Yea you're right on that one. I can't figure how to properly utilize my calibration if I have to use that rig though.
>Overdrive/nanofiber
I actually asked this some threads ago but i couldn't figure it out.
>navy booster
I'll check it out. Here's hoping it isn't expensive as fuck.

>>121873116
>Huge drop to my defenses when you remember that I'm shield tanking
its 10.5% resists on the PECF and 9.5% on the F85, thats not a lot on a frigate
>overdrive/nanofiber

the nanofiber's agility bonus will seriously help you with the TD, overdrive just does speed remember

navy 50 charges aren't expensive at all, that 9th charge in the MASB will really help

>>121872854

Its a slasher. If doesn't mitigate damage it dies. Resist ain't gonna matter. The repper is to just shrug off any damage you take before setting up the TD fuckery

>>121873492
Here best fit

[Slasher, bestfit]

Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
1MN Monopropellant Enduring Afterburner

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Small Projectile Burst Aerator I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Also the slasher is shit.

>>121874291
>>121872854
>Also, the slasher is shit
And that's exactly why I use it.

Also, now you guys have calibration to spare but I guess it can't be helped.
>>121872627
Looks like a fine fit if my SP wasn't full shield tank. But yea there's still the resistance holes.

>>121874808
why not use a firetail?

>>121874875
Because people tend to run from the firetail more often than they'd run from my slasher. I'd just use my Dramiel then.

While we're in a fitting mood, what's a good ship to kill daytrippers inside my WH? I can't make up my mind whether to sneak up a Stealth Bomber, Stratios, Recon, or brute force it with something simpler like a Sleipnir or Myrm. Most of them are flying Stratios/Asteros or Cov Ops ships.

>>121878806
The stealth bomber is best since they're running cov ops.

>>121878865
Oh and by stealth bombers, I don't mean the torpedo kind. I mean the smart bomb kind.

>>121879180
Like this?

[Panther, SURPRISE MOTHAFUCKA]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II
Overdrive Injector System II

Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Sensor Booster II, Scan Resolution Script
Large Capacitor Battery II
Stasis Webifier II
Warp Scrambler II

Ammatar Navy Large EMP Smartbomb
Ammatar Navy Large EMP Smartbomb
Republic Fleet Large Proton Smartbomb
Republic Fleet Large Proton Smartbomb
Caldari Navy Large Graviton Smartbomb
Caldari Navy Large Graviton Smartbomb
Federation Navy Large Plasma Smartbomb
Improved 'Guise' Cloaking Device II

Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II
Large Semiconductor Memory Cell II

Ogre II x5

>>121878806
>>121878865
>>121879180
>>121879517
i feel stupider after reading this
stick to kspace please

>>121879517
Can't wait to kill that ship with a svipul.

>>121880031
>>121881435
:o)

>>121874291
this fit is pretty anemic on DPS, barely 100 without a gyro

>>121883792
It has a neut though. You'll do more damage if they can't rep

>these posts

Its like you guys actually enjoy being retarded!

>>121884108
You're also assuming they're running based on cap or don't have a cap booster

I know what you're saying and I know how neuts are really useful, but the neuts are situational, and apply as necessary. if you engage another slasher or some capless fit, the neut matters less

problem is that you're barely doing enough DPS to be competative, there are certain brawler fits that will eat you alive, particularly things like merlins, incursus or god forbid a fucking punisher

>>121884167
And you're trapped in here with us.

>>121884264
>a slasher has a very specific engagement profile
more news at eleven!

you just gotta be selective about what you jump into, and hope you can break their reps. either you take no damage or you die.

>>121884678
>>a slasher has a very specific engagement profile
>more news at eleven!
thats not what I meant, your fit doesn't revolve around the neut, your fit revolves around being small, nimble and fast but the DPS your ship puts out is arguably one of the strongest traits, you really gotta have enough DPS to properly engage your target, even if you're not fighting up or anything having sub 100 dps isn't that great when so many other ships put out more

TD fit cruci generally useful as intro ewar or not?

How to make isk on drifter incursions
Step 1: Warp into fresh site with cheap cloaking frigate with allot of cargo space, 800m3 prefered, so get t2 cargo rigs
Step 2: mwd over near the amarr ship wrecks (because you are not a big threat the drifter ships will continue attacking amarr ships instead)
Step 3: pop an MTU, like a packrat, but make sure you don't care to lose it, as you will eave it behind
Step 4: wait for the reinforcement ships to warp in after a few amarr ships die
Step 5: start aligning yourself so the MTU is in the middle between you and a celestial, so you can align, decloak, loot all, warp, within 3 ticks (before the drifters lock you)
Step 6: once there is a few cruisers and frigates left start scooping the loot, align out and warp
Step 7: have fun being + or - 100 million richer.


Per drifter death, it drops 33 million or so of salvage, also allot of amarr battleships drop good loot too.

Also, if there is an incursion fleet running the site, warp in with a ceptor and loot all the drifter wrecks. Enjoy the isk and tears in local.

>>121887052
>warp in with a ceptor
Why? Ceptors can get pointed.

>>121887228
You warp in a small fast non-threatening ship because drifters will primary something that is big.

>>121887349
Couldn't I just warp in with cheaper t1 ships then?

>>121887458
That works too.

>>121887705
Also won't you get blacklisted and shit?

>>121887760
>blacklisted
????

>>121887804
People blacklisting you from incursion fleets etc.

>>121887847
Who cares, you are making more in one site than they will in an hour. Per drifter you make 33 million from loot, think about that for a minute.

>>121887874
I'd still like to have a good reputation in case I run into shit down the road personally.

Perhaps, I should just make an alt and do it there.

>>121804582
Warhead Upgrades V, 10 days to go

>>121867541
I can't wait to see that ass with the new propulsion system

Is it possible to install the game fully without starting a trial (ie making a account)? I want to get shit set up already, but won't be able to play for a few more days.

>>121892903
Yes, you can install the game without having an active account.

>>121892903
http://community.eveonline.com/support/download/

>>121893738
But that's just the launcher, which asks me to log in. It hasn't actually downloaded the 20 GBs of game data yet. Am I overlooking something?

>>121893807
>20gbs of data
The game isn't 20gb anymore anon. Just about 2gb.

You can just login and play right now

>>121893921
Oh, that's actually hella impressive.
I even cleanup up hard drive space for this. Eh, it had to happen soon anyway.

>>121893993
>hella
In any case, we're going on a pilgrimage together soon. Do join us if you have the time. >>121738129

>>121894115
I'd love to, but don't think I'll be able to be on then. Any chance you'll be doing this again sometime?

>>121893807
The client uses download on demand.

If you want all the resource files right now:
>Click on settings (the cogwheel thingy in the corner)
>Select Download
>Check the box that says "Download all the resource files"
>Restart the launcher

That should work.

>>121894427
My internet connection isn't always the most robust, so that sounds like a plan. Thanks!

>>121894274
>Any chance you'll be doing this again sometime?
I doubt anyone would want to make a second trip so soon..

Holy shit is station research no longer slot limited

>>121896587
Welcome to last year. You're in for a ride.

>>121896884
Yeah I guess it's on a 10 point scale now instead of just trending into infinity? Anything else in research/production that's changed?

>ice mining
>literally 100m/h in 0.0

Since when is mining actually worth it, what happened?

>not typhoon

>not flying a punisher unironically ironically

>mfw kador punisher

kawai as fuck

>Amarr
Literal keks that had their queen blown to bits.

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>>121904232
Gallente masterrace reporting in

Sebiestor represent.

>Gallente
Literally manchilds that were so betas that they had to create drones

>>121905459
>not having robots do all the work for you so you can sit back and enjoy the view

Hey guys could someone check if someone called "Naderah" is still playing and if he is, tell him greetings from Kenny and ask if it's worth returning

>>121906710
Fine, fine I'll login and check. Be back in a second.

>>121906710
https://zkillboard.com/character/94617253/

looks like yes

>>121904232
She RMT plexed her shitfit Titan and got herself killed like any other retard.

>>121906710
>could someone check if someone called "Naderah" is still playing
https://zkillboard.com/character/94617253/

>tell him greetings from Kenny and ask if it's worth returning
No.

Any recommended reading to make a good, educated start to the game?

>>121904232

That Titan kill was such a fucking disappointment. Should have had once in a lifetime 'jamyl' officer mods or some shit. It was meant to be a defining moment for people to remember and items like that being seen in other killmails in the future would have gone a long way to further content creation.

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>>121906710
You're welcome senpai

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>>121907553
Don't shoot the messenger. I'm not even getting paid for this

>this true and unironic joy at playing the game and recommending it another

jesus

>>121907510
Holy shit i love you anon also Guardian Pilot master race returning to service (or basilisk if you are into shields)

>>121907154
You don't need to make an educated start, it's a slow game. Just don't train mining, don't invest too much into ships and pods, and research everything as you go along.

Read forums, blogs, euni wiki, /dog/, talk with people in /v/ BROS

are player stats really done client side now?

I set my training queue for a year and uninstalled.

Did I officially win at EVE?

>>121907953
It stops hours after your sub ends i believe.
>>121907771
She'll be glad to hear that

>>121907953
you and everyone elses alt account I guess

>>121908043
Thanks again anon if you could do me one final favour, tell him to get the cleaning supplies ready I'm getting a subscription card right now

>>121907953
Enjoy your 72 hours of free training time.

>>121908804
Yea he got the message. And he gets the reference to "cleaning supplies".. whatever that is.

>>121908804
Oh and Naderah has another message.

He says to tell you that CCP removed the training queue time limit so you can have as many skills in queue as you want.

>>121909450
I love you anon and if you ever require massive amounts of NSFW content in video form just ask, you good sir deserve all the gigabytes I have

>>121908043
>>121909325
Didn't unsub, just uninstalled.

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>>121909623
You're welcome. I'm going to bed now, I'm sure he'd be glad to see you in game again.