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You heard her edition

Last thread: >>121361352

>109 Patch
Adds new content, breaks old content, buffs and nerfs items.
Patch notes never

Azazel nerf is BUGGED, supposedly.

>General Information
http://bindingofisaac.com/

FAQ:
>What does "item" do?
http://platinumgod.co.uk/rebirth
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Binding_of_Isaac:_Rebirth_Wiki

>What's that HUD that people are using?
https://github.com/networkMe/missinghud2

>What is "thing" on the post-it note?
Top row: Mom's Heart/It Lives, Isaac, Boss Rush
Middle row: Satan, ???, The Lamb
Bottom row: Mega Satan, Greed Mode, Hush

>What is Hush/Blue Womb?
New boss in a new area that opens when you beat Mom's Heart before the 30th minute.

>How to unlock The Lost?
Please note that the seeds are from Rebirth, and don't work in Afterbirth anymore.
1. Isaac must die to a Mulliboom in one of the Basement floors. Mulliboom seed: FHRD S1N1 (Go into the large room above the starting room. You can easily die from full health in here to them.) Or if not: JTMD EZPF (one is directly below - Normal difficulty)

2. Magdalene must die to her own bomb in one of the Caves floors. (Pyro Seed: ALFA 0NTZ)

3. Judas must die to Mom's Foot as Judas in one of the Depths or Necropolis floors. Good Seed: 8LDE 8XDX (Wait on using the Joker till the 3rd floor and avoid the devil rooms and you'll get the sacred heart. You also get the Sad Onion on the first floor.

4. Azazel must die to Satan in Sheol (his blood/laser form or hooves, NOT leeches or The Fallen). You must NOT use a seed.
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Should I do it?
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Every post below, it is trolled.
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Man this item is cool and fun next patch removes it completely
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>yfw you eat the whole steak in one bite
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Afterbirth Mulliboom seed: J2LP E87W
Afterbirth Maggie seed (Dr Fetus): F4SC NYNH
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Anybody else getting Isaac'd out? Most of the new items aren't doing much for me.

I finished everything in Greed Mode but the donations, which I refuse to do until there's a mod to fix that fucking nonsense in that makes it so you can only donate 1-5 coins a run.

Lilith got obliterated. She was OP in greed, doesn't mean you should fuck her life up in the base game.

Mega Satan's unlocks are the biggest slap in the face since Isaac's Heart being a Lost unlock. Especially since there's still no online co-op.

Hush was interesting once or twice. After that, the Armor mechanic feels too overtuned, making him a chore to fight.

I was really hoping for an actual new path, with a new Mega Boss. Now it's looking like the most we might get is a new hidden character. And we might not even get that, since it's got no sprites.

>>121422970

Nah. Never ruin good tears with Brimstone.
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>>121423149
Do you have an Ipecac seed?
The wikis need to step up and update from Rebirth seeds
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>>121422818
>buffs and nerfs items
>buffs
dont lie, such a thing is literally not in edmunds vocabulary.
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>>121422970
Always
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>>121423451
Dont be silly, he buffed cursed eye so it shows up literally fucking everywhere now
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First for Cambion Conception
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Pay to Play is the best new challenge
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>>121423912
>literally Cursed 2.0
>best anything
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>>121423780
gay
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>Get this
>Super excited, finally about to get bandage girl
blank card consumes diplopia
Fuck you ed, I carried this card and spacebar item forever
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>>121424180
>pay to play
>cave 1
>Brimstone+lil brimstone+guppy

not fun
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>>121423235
People's tweets to edmund suggest there's a way to increase the number of coins the greed machine can take in one run.
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>>121423912
>implying it's not The Guardian
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>Pride Day Challenge
>Dunce Cap

JUST
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>>121423780
>tfw forgot blood

I always forget something important when I'm done drawing. Goddamn it
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>>121424446

Yeah, we already know it. As you donate with a character, it increases the likelihood of the machine blowing up by 1% per coin. So after you donate 50 coins with a character, the machine has a 50% chance of blowing up each time you donate a coin. The only way to keep donating more is to switch to a new character.

BUT THE COUNTER DOESN'T RESET, SO YOU STILL HAVE A CHARACTER WHO HAS A 50% CHANCE OF ONLY DONATING A SINGLE COIN AT THE END OF A GREED RUN.

This means if you switch every single time you get to that 50% roadblock, you will have only made it to 600 coins donated. Which means you have to get another 399 coins in with absolutely shit odds. Hence why that one autist had to gamebreak for 700 runs straight.
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I WANT TO FUCK LILITH
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I got sticky bomb wich is pretty good
But then I found brim in devil room for 2 hearts

Should I?
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>>121424960
I want to fuck Little Horn. ;_;
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do you get eden tokens for beating greed mode?
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>>121424941
That's not the whole story. Every time you donate with one character, it lowers the chance to jam with the others.

I guess it's to stop you from playing one character exclusively, like Lilith.
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>>121425129
Stats?
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how do i install the missing hud after taking the rar?
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>>121425332
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>>121423912
>not Onan's streak
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>>121425385
just run it steakuck
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I want to fuck the adversary.
I want him to pee in my mouth.
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>>121425434
Go for it, it's better since you don't have many great tear effects yet
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>>121425434
brimstone is better

Stickybombs get annoying
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>>121425579
>>121425584

Thanks, I was afraid because sticky looks pretty good on some bosses
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>>121425538
run what? there's no exe file or anything, just a bunch of folders
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I'm so glad they fixed monstro's lung
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Little Horn is so cute an innocent, you can see it in the excitement on it's face when you enter the room.

Bouncing around with it's toys everywhere and giggling at the sight of a new friend, it even sends a portal your way where you can play too!

Do you think Lil' Horn realized -- right before you banished it from existence -- how much their only friend in the world hated them?

Monsters.
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>>121426551
it's throwing bombs at me, fucking vile creature
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Guys what does Pandora's box do in the Blue Womb?
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>>121426606
It doesn't realize they hurt you, it just wants to play ;_;
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>>121426696
Find out and post here about it
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>>121426696
>filter
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>>121426696

It disables that disgusting filter.
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>>121426696
>>121426750
>Wow it's fucking nothing.jpg
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>>121426696
It's shitty, I can't remember exactly what it was but I think it was pickups

Try it and report back
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>Greed Mode with Samson
>Bloody Lust + Soy Milk + Death's Touch
That was fun.
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Lil' Haunt is a real nigga
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>>121424352
But getting bandage girl is incredibly easy now with Lillith.
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>>121426551
Same with Monstro, he just wanted to play with you. He was like a puppy. Then you killed him.

Then he came back as a demon cyborg to try and kill you.
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>>121425740
You downloaded the wrong thing.
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Is Isaac gay?
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Fuck Onan's Streak. It's harder than Speed! and the Guardian.

How'd you guys do it?
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So why didn't Danny do the music for rebirth?
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>>121427749
Tried to take the paycheck all at once
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>>121427749
He turned into a full-blown SJW.
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>>121427749

danny and ed fell apart and are no longer friends
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>>121427717
You're kidding, right?
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>>121427749

Because he's a bitchy SJW fuckboy who argued with Ed every chance he got

During the Ferguson riots he literally tweeted "white people are getting what they deserve"
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>>121427717
git gud
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>>121427963
Jesus
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>>121427958
>>121428014
Lost to Bloat and Infamy on Depths I in that order on both attempts. Did Speed! on my first try and Guardian on my second.

pls help senpai
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is there some trick I'm not aware of to getting decent items
I swear it's like 95% of the items I get are complete trash and I'm resetting 2 or 3 floors in almost every time because it takes me 2 minutes to kill the fucking boss
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>>121427963
Isn't he White?
I don't get SJW.
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>kill Monstro only with tears
>Literally use The Pinking Shear 7 times with Double Charge (thus spawning 14 bodies) on Greed
>Somehow his health still dropped extremely slowly

What the fuck, surely my Monstro DPS wasn't nearly as high as the one of FOURTEEN bodies.
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>Load older patch of the game
>Breaks my savefile and now nothing is unlocked
Come on.

Where's a savefile with all the unlocks? Fuck this.
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how do i find the id for the greed machine, because i wanna eat my steak in 1 bite.
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>>121428189
If you're having trouble in Onan's slow down and take your time setting up your shots. With decent aim and knowledge of enemies' movement patterns you should be ok. Be sure to avoid items like double shot, cricket's body, piercing effects, as any tear that doesn't break on an enemy will count as a miss.
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>>121427410
Thanks.
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Remember the good ol' days, /boig/?
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>>121428809
>Three bombs on screen
>Game destroys itself
no
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>>121428809
How did we even stand this shit? Was it the OST?
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>>121423780
Thats pretty hot
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>Liking literal baby factories
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how I would fix the donation machine

200 coins: samson now holds the blind rage
300 coins: eve now holds the black feather
400 coins: judas now holds the judas' tongue
500 coins: XXX now holds the petrified poop
600 coins: lazarus now holds the suicide king
700 coins: azazel now holds the left hand
800 coins: eden now holds the 404
900 coins: maggy now holds the immaculate conception
999 coins: unlock the keeper
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>>121429553
How to fix the donation machine: You can put in five coins minimum before it has a chance to explode.
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>>121428809
Who the fuck thought pixelshit was better than nice smooth graphics like we had before? And the filter sucks horse cock for trying to make the game look any better than the pixelated dog turn it is now.
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>>121429553
Lazzy already starts with a pill, but that would be interesting

Actually that would be the best fucking shit. Congrats on being a better designer than Nicalis
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>>121429335

>You will never feel Lilith's belly distend outwards as an Incubus gestates within her

Why even live.
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>>121427717
The fuck? Did that shit first try today. It's not hard if you use charged shots only and actually take your time to AIM. You're probably rushing.
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>both devil deals are garbage
>beat depth 1 boss
>angel room
>sacred heart
thanks edmund-sama
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>devil room is brother bobby and the hairball thing
fuck this game
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>>121430021
It looks like someone's having fun, don't worry, Edmund will patch that out soon enough
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>Get Poly first floor on Onan's Streak
>It kills me because it hits the wall after it goes through the enemies
I don't know what I expected.
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>Cricket's Body on Onan's Streak
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>Half a heart in Onan's Streak
>Fire in my way
>Shoot it
>It passes right through the fire
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>>121429553
What I don't get is why they had only Cain get something for putting shit into the Greed machine and then 890 coins are useless and do absolutely nothing
I don't get it
I really really don't fucking understand
Especially since you put more shit into the donation box and you get stuff
What the fuck
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>>121429335
>not knowing this is my fetish
faggot
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>>121430369
>pick up cupid's arrow
>lose run instantly
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>>121429335
>You will never drink Lilith's milk
Just kill me now
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>>121430884
Ok.
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>>121429553
Whoops, hold on there bucko, that sounds like too much fun
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If you dislike The Wiz - you're a scrub, incapable of adjusting.
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>>121431114
I don't like finding it late since it fucking destroys your range if you do
I'll take it if I get it early though
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>>121430835
>pick death's scythe
>fuck yeah, I love this item, damage up and I also ge-
>*sudden realization*
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>>121431114
>if you don't like an item that provides almost zero benefits and mostly provides negatives you're a scrub
*tips fedora and takes a bite from his 100 dollar steak*
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O N E B I T E
N
E
B
I
T
E
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>>121430835
>>121431246
How are you guys this bad? Just slow down and focus and think about stuff before you grab it.
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>Lilith starts with Cambion Conception
>Maggy doesn't start with Immaculate Conception

She has the fucking health to do so, seriously, why does Ed hate Holy shit so much?
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Don't you fucking dare ruin this for me now, game
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how the fuck do you survive a room with no rocks that spawns with two homing troll bombs as the lost
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Why does mom's coin purse exist
I hate it so fucking much
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>>121431637
Eat more slowly
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>>121431528
It's easy to get too excited when seeing an item you like, and not thinking of the consequences
Death scythe guy here, still won
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This steak meme just makes me hungry. Fuck you guys.
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>>121431630
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>>121431394
>Oh god, now i have to line up enemies diagonally instead!
>H..h..how do i do that?!
How does it feel to be such a big baby?
>provides almost zero benefits
Yeah, it's not like you can't double your fire rate against bigger targets.
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>>121431630
>Spastic little retard punching bag walks into a red shit
>Apparently this kills him instantly

I still revived with Guppy's Collar but I am so fucking buttdevestated right now
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Why can't I open the blue womb? I seen it open before the patch but now it won't show up.
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I'd like to thank Chaos for giving me a discount holy mantle and blue baby's only friend in the shop. This win wouldn't have been possible without him
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>>121423235
Yeah, the Mega Satan rewards are retarded. No one plays 2 player Isaac. It's a one player game, and it's on the PC. I'm pretty sure Northern Lion is the only person ever to play it legitly
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>>121432036
>Double fire rate against bigger targets

Wait, what? How does shooting in 45 degree angles double your fire rate when shooting forward and hitting with all shots does the same damage? It's not like this is Soy Milk where there's a damage decrease or anything, your power's still the same

What the fuck are you gonna need a huge ass enemy to shoot at? Gurdy?
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>get the new item that gives massive damage up until you get hit
>with dr. fetus
>and cricket's body
>my bombs shake the screen as if i had mr. mega
>take out blastocyst's first phase
>second phase can't even split it takes so much damage
holy fuck
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>doing blue bomber
>get Shiny Rock
>waste like 5 minutes blowing up rocks and wondering why I'm not getting anything til I realize it's Lucky Rock that I want

Jesus christ why the fuck does Shiny rock exist
Fuck OFF edmund
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>>121432036
this. it's a little like the guillotine. with some practice it's a straight upgrade
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>>121431630
>>121432018
>>121432115
CUMMING
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>>121432185
>their solution to fix the crashing was to just disable Hush completely
LOL
also turn the filter off faggot
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>see all people complaining about Onan's Streak
>Decide to try it and see what happens
>This

Well I guess I could have a worse start.
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HOW DO I GET MY GREED MACHINE TO 999 INSTANTLY, I'VE KILLED GREED 500 TIMES NOW AND IM GOING INSANE
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>>121432185
You've got to randomly unlock it now like the rest of us. Don't worry, during your run when you're shooting poop you'll just get "You unlocked the Blue Womb" out of nowhere

Either that or unlock It Lives

>>121432440
Cheat. It's not worth it
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>>121432185
>that run
>those items
Jesus fucking FED are we?
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>>121427717
I literally got some transformation that turns you into permanent R U A WIZARD? and I still beat it.

I literally had to kill Isaac with my familiars, it was fun.
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>>121432440
just... don't do it

there's no achievement linked to it

you don't need to do it
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>>121432480
>Cheat
how tho
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>doing onan's streak
>curse of blind in flooded caves
>get to treasure room
>"oh hey it cant be that bad"
>dunce cap
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>>121432480
I wanna know how to cheat it though, i cannot find the value
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>>121432440
Chew and swallow :^)
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>>121432564
Learn to do some shit with Cheat Engine, it's really not worth it
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>Be me
>Doing daily run for fun
>Cursed Eye from a red Chest in Devil room Basement 2
This run can't possibly get any worse!
>Find a Fetus
>Know they fixed all the synergies
>Fetus overrides Cursed Eye
Welp. This run just got good.
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>>121432581
open CE
set it to isaac exe
stand next to greed machine
search for value donated in greed machine
then add 1 coin
do a second search for this new value
then edit to 998 and add 1 more coin
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>do pride day
>second floor moms knife

Out skilled ;^]
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HOW TO FIX THE FUCKING TUMOR TRANSFORMATION IN ONE SIMPLE FUCKING STEP:

GIVE YOU THE FUCKING TUMOR SHOTS IN ADDITION TO YOUR REGULAR SHOTS
THERE. NOW IT'S A TRANSFORMATION THAT, WHILE NOT AS POWERFUL AS GUPPY, IT'S PRETTY DAMN NIFTY.

FUCK, I SHOULD BE THE FUCKING IDEAS GUY AT NICALIS, MAYBE I COULD FIX THE OTHER SHITTY GODDAMN TRANSFORMATIONS AS WELL
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>>121432675
the bad thing about cursed eye is the teleport on hit especially during later bosses, not the charge shot.
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>>121431630
What's up with those walls?
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>>121432841
enjoy the steak
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Should have realized that Mom's Knife wouldn't do anything
What a waste of soul hearts
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>>121432841
>Give Bob transformation instant Ipecac and a Tarot Card drop every room clear

Would be dope
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>died in the chest during the BRAINS challenge

fuck me running

I had the stop watch so it was unbearable slow but it was going good until The Bloat fucked my shit up. It seems like BFF and some sort of bomb synergies would make things easier but I couldn't find any.
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Fuck bob ross is getting sad he's all shaky

it's the last years feels bad man
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>>121432912
'Cept you are never charging with Fetus cause it overrides Cursed Eye.
And you only teleport if charging a shot when you get hit with the Eye.
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>first floor curse of the blind
>pick up Dunce Cap
>mfw
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>>121429767
>>121430745
>>121430884
These tbqh
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>killed mega satan with the lost back whenever rebirth came out
>have to do it again

suck my balls edmund
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>>121432841
Yeah, this entire DLC is literally just "SHIT ITEMS" the expansion. It's not fun. Most of these new items are literally horrible
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Did I have my expectations set too high for this expansion? day 6 and I am already bored of it.

Greed mode is a one time adventure which Ed tried too hard to make unfun.

Azazel and Judas nerfed for no fucking reason.

No new combos or interactions except with OP items that did not need them. BOI Technology could be upgraded after WotL to Brimstone levels, in here it remains as pathetic as ever.

No reason to touch Maggie, ??? or Lazarus, ever.

New rooms are bullshit.
Item pools are too full of items, new items almost seem exclusive to greed mode.

I wanted a combo system, fuck you Nicalis, having all items interact with brimstone and epic fetus IS NOT A COMBO SYSTEM. Transformations are ass.

Lilith is almost certainly no fun to play outside greed mode.
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>>121433270
>Implying Edmund plays The Lost

The fucker probably couldn't even get Platinum God, makes you wonder how much of the game he actually plays
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>>121432720
would should i search first time?
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>>121433363
just a bug my friend :^))))))))
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Oh boy... Fruit Cake... It's the Daily Run and I have Fetus Bomb Tears. Do I see what the fuck happens or roll it for something good?
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>>121433363
I like greed mode a lot.
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>>121433689
it's ok

it gives you random tear effects and random bomb effects, so it has that unique synergy

but it also can do tiny planet and fuck your ass
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>>121432915
It's a visual bug that I'm apparently not the only sufferer of.
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>>121432927
http://i.imgur.com/JRr3obu.png

Don't worry Anon, I salvaged it
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>Pay to Play
>have to pay to get into Devil Rooms too
Fucking BRUTAL
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You know the real problem with Afterbirth?
Edmund had too much faith in Nicalis.

He saw that Florian did a good job with both vanilla and Wrath, and that Nicalis did a great job with Rebirth, so I'm just assuming that he left them to development for Afterbirth.

They probably gave him a date, thinking they could get shit done by Halloween, and completely shat the bed when they realized that they couldn't. And instead of asking Ed for a time extension, which he probably would've been fine with, they shoved it out the door and said "eh we'll give you patches at a later date"

I'm still having fun with the xpac, and I like some of the cool new shit added, including greed mode for fun runs, but I'm going to be wary for the next xpac and I'm hoping Ed will keep a closer eye on them as well.
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>>121433363
>>121433998
Glad to see I'm not the only one skeptical about Afterbirth
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>>121433283
This, and the new transformations are all awful
>You can fly and have two black hearts, even though you could already fly before!
>You can have a free heart container!
>You can have permanantly fucked up shots!
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>>121433929
>pay to play
>get sack head
>win

actually that can be said about most runs with that item
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>>121434161
I'm mainly skeptical about Nicalis as a developer. I remember people on /v/ being extremely fucking worried about the game since Nicalis has a reputation for ruining amazing games. They need to get their shit together after this or they're going to lose a lot of fans.
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How do I win Mega Satan runs as Eve?

That character kinda needs devil deals to not be ass
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Uhm... there's a Nickel I can't pick up. What the fuck? If I walk over it, it just makes a tinkling noise, wiggles slightly, and remains not picked up.
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>>121431457
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>>121433998
>Edmund McMillen defense crew

That said, honestly I'd like to believe you. I just wish he were honest with this and whip them in shape or something

And remove all the God-awful tiny rooms, holy shit they suck so much
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So what the fuck is the point of the new floors besides Blue Womb? There is literally nothing unique about them besides the music and design.
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gg greed mode
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>>121434420
Hope for a Health Down pill?
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>>121433689
IIRC it's like 3 Dollar Bill but changes per floor?
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>>121434301
>Guppy is Guppy
>Lord of the Flies is just an upgrade to Guppy or only useful with Mulligan
>Super Bum is Super Bum
>Mom is pointless since it's easy to get 3 Mom Items, and as a result it's really fucking weak
>Bob is unbelievably specific and your only reward is a fucking poison creep that Anemic or Aquarius could already do
>Mushroom just gives a Red Heart Container
>Evil Angel/Cthulhu is pointless assuming you decided to pick up Spirit of the Night or Lord of the Pit or you're Azazel/Lost, same with regular Angel
>Tumor fucking punishes you for collecting Familiars by giving you permanent The Wiz instead of a triple shot like its appearance would imply
>Drugs is literally just a free pill and that's it
>Poop is extremely specific in its uses and will likely require Blank Card + Card Against Humanity to truly abuse
What the fuck were they even doing?
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>>121433929
I never dropped below 30 coins in either Pay to Play run I did
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>>121434465
Bomb it and you'll be able to pick it up.
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>>121433363
I actually came here to post something like this.

I really enjoyed Lilith at the start, but the nerf made her really un-fun to play.

That, in combination with all the bad items in the item pool and changes to existing rooms like spiked item rooms and all the fucking useless ass switches, now makes me feel like this expansion was only a cash grab.

Why even nerf things that have been around for so long? It's not like the game is harder, it's just that none of the new items are fun to pick up and use.
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>Lilith starts with Cambion Conception
>Hypothetical Magdalene starting with Immaculate Conception

What about Eve?
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>>121435480
Eve is pure therefore not a baby factory
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>>121434883
>>Bob is unbelievably specific and your only reward is a fucking poison creep that Anemic or Aquarius could already do
Or several buddies even, and with BFF they do it better

>Tumor fucking punishes you for collecting Familiars by giving you permanent The Wiz instead of a triple shot like its appearance would imply
Would be fucking fine if you could still shoot forward, but no that would be too fun.
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>>121435657
>pure
she's the whore of babylon

like, you can't even dispute it

you look at the screen and it says "whore of babylon"

she's a literal whore
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>>121432410

Welp, first attempt. Was really lucky to get Prayer Card on the first floor and then 1 + 1 in the shop there. Made it so I literally swam in items and batteries. Didn't even need any Damage up or anything. Also Revenge Fly to kill everything safely.
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Pick one thing to delete from Rebirth (Afterbirth included, of course)

Can be as narrow as a single room or as broad as an entire game mode

Don't be the faggot who thinks he's funny for saying the entire game or the stats screen or whatever
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Was there another update after the 109 one, or is my Steam lying?

I'm not sure because I haven't updated yet
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>>121435815
You are a literal fucking retard that didn't even think about looking up what the "whore of babylon" was in the bible you fucking dipshit
here's a hint
eve was from genesis, the first book, the beginning.
the whore of babylon is mentioned in revelations, the final book foretelling the future
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>>121435963
Small Rooms

There's a lot of shit in Afterbirth I'd get rid of but first are the small fucking rooms

I'd also love to get rid of bad game design like enemies in safe rooms, but small rooms need to fucking die
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>>121435963
All the unavoidable damage, if i'm allowed to say that.
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>The simply ebin steak arg hit a new breakthrough
>Involves x number of players hitting 999 in the greed machine

Haha, that's so epic, having x amount of players grind in an overhyped gamemode that gets old fast!
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>>121432290
I actually had a very fun day playing co-op Isaac with a friend. It can be a good time. Unfortunately the situation we did that in was pretty unusual and I doubt it'll ever happen again, so yeah.

Also having to use a controller sucked.
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>>121436194
it's not even x number

it's whenever edmund feels like giving us the rest, disguised as "x number"
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>>121436193
Yeah, I'd say that's more than acceptable
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>>121436194
>Machine jams at 2 cents in for everyone constantly
>Takes hundreds of runs for people to hit 999
>Find out that it wasn't a buildup requirement, it was just a 109 day delay
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>>121435963
THOSE FUCKING ROOMS THAT ARE JUST TNT BARRELS WITH A BUTTON AND YOU LITERALLY HAVE TO TAKE THE HIT NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU CAN'T EVEN BOMB THE FUCKING DOOR
WHAT KIND OF RETARD THINKS THAT SHIT IS OK
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Greed got his shit wrecked.

He's actually not that hard if you have enough Dakka.

I dedicate this run to satan who gave me 4 black hearts in a row. Also to Daddy Long Legs who told more than a few bosses to go fuck themselves.
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womb II. wish me luck.
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>>121436383
I've managed to avoid the hit sometimes but I can't figure out the exact method of doing it, it's fucking annoying
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>>121436383
fucking THIS

>>121436471
Best of luck on this shitfuck of a "challenge", anon
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>Upon picking up enough heart pickups, Isaac gains a permanent angelic familiar. Possible familiars include:
>Holy Water
>Guardian Angel
>Sworn Protector
>The Relic
>Seraphim
>The first and second familiars will spawn after picking up 15 heart pickups each. The third, fourth, and fifth familiars will spawn after picking up 30 heart pickups each. No further familiars will spawn.

Ed, half of these aren't even fucking babies
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>>121436383
I've avoided it once but I was more surprised than anything
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>>121435963
curse of the blind
I fucking hate curse of the blind
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>>121428260
It's just a circlejerk for friends/attention/profit

I know a few IRL, and they all make fun of it/don't give shit when they think they're safe.
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>>121436471
well that was quick. took me longer to post this than the actual fight did. I even had a 2 of hearts that I didn't use.
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>>121436609
>Seraphim IS Sworn Protector, that's just its "tooltip"
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>Mom's Wig + Brimstone is one of the most overpowered combos in the game
>Mom's Wig + Technology is fucking trash
I don't get it
I just don't fucking get it
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>mfw 99.9% of the people that play this game are bad

Fuck all of you
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>playing nerfed Az because I didn't get Lilith yet
>get tech X from key room
>yee bitch I got this one in the bag
>it doesn't even do anything
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>>121436772
no they're different items
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>>121436383
>>121436549
>>121436593
Only works if you have flying/speed/small hitbox but you have to run to the bottom middle of the map where the gap is and you'll be fine.

>mind you, having one or more of those are pretty unlikely, fucking thanks Edmund

>>121436609
Source? Also, as in just hearts in healing or +health items?
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>>121427963
S-Sauce?

Pls tell me this isn't real I love his music
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>start Greed Mode with Cain
>get Godhead in my first item room

Welp, that was pretty fucking easy. Was trying to maximize damage, but I think I did alright.

6VCS 0G00 is the seed if you want to try.
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>>121436864
http://bindingofisaacrebirth.gamepedia.com/Immaculate_Conception

I wouldn't know, it's rare as fuck. When I read Sword Protector I thought it meant the Attack Fly. Basically all of them are angel fetus and then Holy Water or a Relic bursting out of your womb to say hello

Maggy would benefit the fuck out of this
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>>121436864
Probably healing since Cambrion Conception requires taking damage
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>>121432559
>there's no achievement
but that's wrong
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>>121432565
same thing happened to me, got quad shot
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>>121432559
>>121437073
There is an achievement, and a fucking letdown of one too.

>>121437047
>>121436996
Thanks!
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>get market restock at depths 2
>have 90+ coins and steam sale
>IT BEGINS
>get a credit card
>use it because that's a little less I have to spend
>fucks everything up and I can't buy anything else

I'm actually retarded
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>>121436806
because the flies scale off your damage
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>>121437047
>Maggy with Immaculate Conception
>Using the Yum Heart is like feeding young, even when your health is full
>She can plop out four helpful familiars around the Caves/Depths

Would be dope

>>121437187
There's always Hush
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>>121437187
No, Edmund and staff are retarded for not fixing an obvious bug.
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>>121437263
It's spiders and it's broken because it auto summons like 5-10 spiders
Try it out.
With Technology, you're lucky to get some spiders every other enemy.
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http://strawpoll.me/5932566
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>>121437541
Where is 'All of the Above'?
>>
So, I've started back playing Rebirth.

Yay or nay on afterbirth, as I've heard mixed reports.

If yay, what's the cheapest it can be had for, I'm greedy.
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>>121437541
gayest enemies by far are host walkers and those bone shooting faggots
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>>121437729
>those bone shooting faggots
Now topped by EXPLODING bone shooting faggots
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>>121437712
Nay as fuck, wait until it's dirt cheap but Rebirth is a much better designed game in general

You'll have a lot more fun with it than Afterbirth
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>>121437327
How is it a bug? Credit Card worked as intended. That's consistent with how everything works in Greed Mode.
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>>121437712
Stay the fuck away from Afterbirth until you've 111%'d Rebirth

Afterbirth is literally incomplete at the moment and full of garbage as is
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>>121437729
I fucking hate walking hosts.
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>>121437812
>Make them black
>Make them shoot faster
>Then make them explode
FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>>121437812
not really because at least most of the time when you kill one of them there's a chance that another one might be nearby and die to the explosion
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>>121437541
I picked the jumpers because of that one bug which still hasn't been patched where they fly across the room to fuck your ass, it makes me angry just writing it down.

pic related, something else that makes me angry
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>those jumping spiders that literally jump from over an entire screen away at you
holy fuck why
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>>121437712
Yay. It's more items, more combos, another game mode, and another character. How is that not worth 11?

>>121437834
Unless of course you're like this guy and you get buttmad over balance changes.
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>Kill those fuckers that shoo those biting worms
>Kill the host and the worms still stay in the air
fuck
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>>121438026
Because it's buggy and broken as shit and not even complete.
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>>121438019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=age4RIm4s44
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are you for fucking real? this is fucking retarded
these spikes dont go down
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>>121438149
kek
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>>121436930
Most of the music I ported to Rebirth because its 10/10 and I prefer MOST of DB music over the new one.

>>121437712
Wait till content is finished up and released. He's deliberately holding back items etc.
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>>121438019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQ69kBP7uok
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>>121438182
forgot the picture
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Can someone explain Pride for me?

I understand why all of the other sins attack the way that they do, but Pride confuses me.
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oh crap, money heals him
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Anybody else think Maggy should start with Immaculate Conception?

She could benefit from fucking anything at this point
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>>121438324
BRAVO, STEAKMUND
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why do these rooms exist

they make me want to break things
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>>121430143
They don't call it the troll engine because it lives under bridges.
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>>121438346
Pride has shitty attacks because he believes too highly in himself to win to actually try. He fucks around and doesn't even deliberately attack you in belief he'll win

Super Pride is a homosexual
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>>121438346
>I can understand why Wrath is an ebin shoutout to Bomberman
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>>121436930

You can continue to love Danny B's music, because it's great stuff. Just don't get confused and think he's a good person. Ed/Tommy let him retain the rights to his music AND gave him sales royalties, and he repaid them by not relicensing his music for the PS ports, just because he decided he didn't like Ed anymore.

The SJW stuff is true, during the Ferguson race riots he was tweeting 24/7 about how the cops getting injured had it coming to them and how the rioting/looting going on was karma
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>>121438346
Pride turns angels into devils. So basically I have no idea
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someone help me I literally can't see shit

>>121438413
>get one of these as the lost
>it's the poop use item
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>>121438539
Sounds like I triggered your autism senpai
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>>121438539
we all know sloth is the most clever
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>>121438413
TROLLED
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>>121438392
this is why this shit is still broken, he pays people like me off with sacred heart in the next room
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>>121438647
SJWs are honestly starting to make Nazis look reasonable.
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>mfw playing Azazel
This isn't a nerf. This like taking a nuclear bomb and making it into a fucking water pistol.
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>>121438647

MEANWHILE IN MASSACHUSETTS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uy_WMtVBkhI

You have to admit they're likeable people.
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Is there anything better than a good technology run?
>Hella damage
>Guppy
>Mom's Wig
>Tiny Planet
Consider this XXXXXXXXL Challenge DONE
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How has Azazel not been fixed yet? What the fuck are they doing?
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>>121437712

Wait until after Fallout 4 is out. People won't complain about Afterbirth's bugs as much then.
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>>121438647
What a goddamn shame

>>121438873
Starting to? At least the Nazis would let you join 'em. SJWs will shitpost at you forever like the one-track robots they are if you say anything even remotely "offensive".
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>>121438934
Well no shit, you turned into guppy you faggot
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>>121438107
>buggy and broken as shit
I know this is hard to understand, but you only see a lot of buggy shit because people are going to post it online when it happens. I've played Afterbirth for like 80 hours so far and ran into like 2 bugs, one of them being Azazel being nerfed into the ground on accident.
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>>121438647
I swear to god if Jake Kaufman turns out to be some super asshole piece of shit I'm going to swear off supporting people who make great music for indie games

Jake is still a good guy, r-right?
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>>121439047
Just because you and I may not have experienced these bugs doesn't mean they're acceptable, and the bugs I have personally experienced are far from petty
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>>121439182

Jake Kaufman is a pretty cool guy. He just posts pics of his dog on the internet
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>>121437541
>tfw spider makes a much longer step than usual and fucks you up as the lost
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>>121439039
With BFF too :3
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>>121437404
It's because brimstone counts as a stupidly fast rate of fire while charging while tech is much slower.
Tech 1 and 2 needs a buff since it's almost always a large decrease in damage per second versus regular tears.
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>people think spiders dont have patterns

What
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>>121439608
Then tell us the patterns.
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>>121439640
>right
>left
>straight up your ass
>>
>trying to unlock the lost
>actually manage to get brimstone as azazel
>have next to no health, but feels incredible having a strong attack again
>die because I fucked up

SDXQ 6NFN

Brimstone + Anti-gravity + Spoon Bender is pretty wacky.
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>>121439608
Not the tiny spiders. The spiders that shit sacks or shit bullets everywhere.
They just skitter around running away from you, OCCASIONALLY running into you, and once they get low on health, they just do whatever the FUCK they want.
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>>121439640

Pattern is "movement in a random direction, stop, movement in a random direction"

If you are within a certain distance to a spider, the spider will move in your direction instead of randomly
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>>121437875
Just got back.
>Credit card immediately purchases all items.
>Restock spawns a new item every time you buy a Shop item.
>Credit card buys all the shit, thus Restock should proc on all items the Credit Card affected.
>Literal definition of a bug due to mechanics not working as described
I.E. Credit Card actually deletes the item being sold and spawns an exact copy of it as a pickup/pedestal item
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>>121438220

It almost looks like he rushed a bit to get it out on halloween, I'm a little curious how something could be so cleanly missing from the game.

Also fuck all the anti-datamining whines about, Does Edmund store his porn in the datafiles or something?
>>
here's a mulliboom seed: w9nr as0x go right then down and enjoy loadse boom
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>>121439887
Yes, actually.
There's a dozen or so Eve fanarts in there. Two Liliths, an Isaac, and concepts for Keeper (Plus Keeper himself.)
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>>121432841
>GIVE YOU THE FUCKING TUMOR SHOTS IN ADDITION TO YOUR REGULAR SHOTS
I think I managed to have this happen to me with brimstone, 20/20 and triple shot, I started firing those two side shots after I picked up Mongo Baby
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>>121440219
How much you want to FUCKING bet that that's what the tumor transformation was intended, but Nicalis is just too fucking incompetent to code it properly
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>>121433283
That thing that makes trapdoors that work like portals just seems to not fucking function at all. On top of being literally less useful than every other spacebar item.
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>>121440339
>That thing that makes trapdoors that work like portals
>less useful than any other spacebar item
Nah son, Ventricle Cutter is my jam
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>>121440431
It flat out didn't work for me when I tried it. Unless it just doesn't work in the Black Market or something, wasted a heart to try it since I had never seen it before.
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>try XXXXL for the first time
>treasure room is literally the last room I check
is it going to be like that the whole time? Is it coded so that you have to see all the room before it appears or something?
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>>121440525
You don't use them in the same room. You're supposed to lay one down in one room and then the other when you're in a tight spot to escape or backtrack quickly.
>>
So is Edmund just fucking with us or is their really some sort of secret a la The Lost?
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>>121438346
My idea was that Envy was envious of Pride's appaearance, so he stole it.
Or maybe Pride is a mix of >>121438515
and his sprite pretty much just being Isaac him self.
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>>121440798
Both, but 98% the former.
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>>121440798
the items are literally not in the game
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>>121440646
Oh, interesting I guess.
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>>121440798
There's a secret, and edmund is fucking with us hardcore.
>guys we didn't wait until hour 109 to release the patch, we didn't even know about it
>until hour 108
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>>121440618
No it's not coded like that but if you're as unlucky as me, that's the way it's going to be the entire time
Also finding the shops is such a fucking BURDEN
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>>121440618
dogshit challenge that isnt worth doing to be honest family
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>>121440921
Yup. It's easily my favorite new item in Afterbirth.
>>
>Beat Hush with Isaac
>Dry Baby was the MVP of this fight
>My reward is a Dry Baby that just farts when it tanks a hit
Why is Edmund so hilarious, guys? How does he come up with simply epic and worthwhile laughs such as this?

>>121441072
Better than the fucking Guardian challenge tbqh
>>
I remember in rebirth when I would actually get good runs
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>Doing an Eden Run
>START WITH BRIMSTONE
>First Devil Deal
I'm going to have shit runs forever now
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>>121441368
CHEKKUMEITO DA
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>>121441368

No, but you will feel a strong desire to kill yourself when you inevitably fuck up.
>>
littlehorn r34 please
>>
>mom's knife + scythe still doesn't synergize
EDMUUUUUUND
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>>121441972
>90% of synergy enhancements are tied to Brimstone, Mom's Knife, Fetus, Epic Fetus, and Ludivico Technique
>Claims to have fixed everything
>Fixed next to nothing outside of overpowered, rare items.
>>
>>121428295

I have reason to believe that Ultra Greed has a damage cap set on him. He can only take damage at a set rate.
>>
>double the frail and bag man on family man challenge

JUST
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>>121442621
EAT
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>>121442668
SLOWER
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>>121442103
What other items can synergize?
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>>121442716
YOU
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>>121442103
>mfw all of the Afterbirth combo spoilers were "LOL look at this hilariously absurd combo you'll never get because it's comprised entirely of rare items"

>>121442475
Ultra Greed and Hush both scale with your damage output.

>>121442770
INCUBUS
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>>121441939
pls do not sexualize the little horn
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So when do you think Ed will arbitrarily unlock the next set of content?
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>>121442815

Unless you have the spider mod. It's basically the same thing.

This is the dark side of difficulty scaling. Clearly shows that Whilst making difficult levels is easy for mcmullen, he can't design a properly difficult boss to save his life.
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>>121442871
>people still think there's a next set of content

It's like you want to be disappointed
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okay, edmund, look

you need to pay the slightest bit of attention to your champ bosses when designing rooms

i literally lost five precious cat lives to fucking monstro, because i'm pretty sure that the gray champ version that doesn't do the high-jump is exactly half the width of the room, and since he wouldn't high-jump, i spent most of the fight just hoping he didn't decide to vomit in my face (which he did, five times)

this is not skill-based gameplay, here; this victory was due to luck, and the fact that he spent the whole attempt doing his little short hops instead of vomiting.
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>>121442871
After x number of players put 999 coins into the greed machine. Seriously.
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>>121438346
pride seems to be a graven image/scribble of isaac himself, he looks so out of place compared to everything else

His X attack just seems to be a continuation of a childs shitty scribble of themselves.

No idea about the bombs though
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>>121442957
Considering there's 20 missing items, no "RPG" equivalent, and a hidden character, yeah there's still content. It's time gated.
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>>121442996
>Krampus in Small Devil Rooms
>he does the Rotating Brimstone while in a corner
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>>121443117
No, it's what >>121443001 said.
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>>121442864
its either lilith or littlehorn
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>>121443250
>>121443001
Yes, and that's a time gate. There's no way for Edmund to prove that the right amount has been reached.
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Easiest way to get 999 coins into Greed?
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>>121442996
edmund doesn't do jack shit about actual gameplay
he comes up with monster designs and item designs
everything else is nicalis.
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>>121442996
Slow down ;^)
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>>121443307
Little Horn just wants to throw his Troll Bombs, let him be

Lilith fucking gives birth while you play as her. Multiple times
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Good bye boring mom's knife run, hello sexy d4
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>>121443250

That's still timegating.

And retard grind.
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>>121443117
Actually, the missing items are Trinkets. They count Trinkets as items.
1 hidden character missing is true, and the achievements are fucked atm.
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>>121443385
>that latter thing
My fucking dick
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>>121443385
Oh I'll give him a troll bomb if u know what I mean
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>>121443385

With all this talk of porn, why is there not a booru set up.
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>put 32 coins into slot machine
>nothing
>blow it up
>troll bomb

EPIC
P
I
C
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chaos card work on the hush?
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>>121444205
it seems that you have been "trolled" my friend 8-)
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>>121444206
Yes, but you have to use it on their second, big tumor form.
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>>121444298
groovy
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Using the bible and then switching it out for something else and using that item gives you flight for the rest of the floor.

Bravo edmund.
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>>121444440
tfw I could do a better job coding this shit
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>>121444206
>tfw i threw mine the wrong direction because i forgot it fires when you press the card key, not a prepare-and-fire like shoop/glass cannon and killed hush anyway
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>>121444514
Then do it. Rewrite Isaac, WoTL, Rebirth, and Afterbirth and fix everything. I can guarantee I'd pay $40 for it.
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>>121444440
>>121444514
Don't worry anon I was wrong, it's for the rest of the game.

BRAVO EDMUND
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>>121444638
>what is source code
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So people are 100% atm. There was no hidden character?
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>half the hush unlocks are just garbage activate on damage items
wow sure was worth it
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>>121444543
>Guppy
WELL NO SHIT YOU KILLED IT
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>>121444543
>Isaac's normal mouth + the Guppy mouth
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Should i take the polaroid or the negative for today's daily?
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If you beat ??? does the run end automatically or can you go back and fight Mega Satan?
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are there still items left?

kinda don't want to play this until all items are patched in
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>>121445207
Mega Satan is the only boss that forces the run to end the second you beat it.
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>>121445049
>Hush will never be actually anything
>Blue Womb will never be its own spooky floor with its completely unique and horrific enemies

Also to save time
>tfw Angels are now in the boss rush
I don't think they're hard I just think it's fucking stupid that a spoiler can just show up like that

Unless I'm wrong and you need to unlock them first, but even then you can see them before knowing they exist
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>>121444543
>accidentally through the chaos card behind me
>hush dives underground and never bothers to come back up
>sitting there dodging bullets while looking at the card stuck in the wall
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>>121445192
If it requires dark room/chest, take the item that will bring you there.
Otherwise, always take the Polaroid.
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kaqw jnmb

This is the last seed that I will have in this game, I had tech x and continuum. Hopefully you guys will be able to enjoy yourselves too, this game was a blast until edmund broke everything.
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>>121445786
;_;7
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Can you take devil deals in "Have a heart"?
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>>121445786
>edmund
nicalis*
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>insanely overpowered Lilith run
>Brimstone Baby, Fly Baby, Gish Baby
>get to Chapel no problem
>pick up Curse of the Tower because I've never seen it and now everything is fucking awful
>make it to the Chest with 2 hearts remaining
>pick up Pyromaniac
AMERICANS CAN DO ANYTHING
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>>121445967
You can and you should, even if they're shit it's better to have room for soul hearts than empty containers
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>tfw bumbo want coin
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>>121446210
>mfw I acquired Safety Scissors the first time I picked up Curse of the Tower
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>>121446498
Bumbo gets coin because bumbo is great
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why the FUCK is my game at double speed now
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>>121446832
Sleek coding.
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This expansion feels so lame. Like everything feels so lacking. The new enemies just have ai thats just slightly modified pre-existing patterns, some are even just recolors of old enemies. The majority of the new items is more useless shit. The synergies they advertised on the blog were literally only the new ones added. There's no new chest like area, hush is just thrown in after it lives for no reason. The button areas just serve to waste time or frustrate. Overall it just feels like im playing a slightly more frustrating version of rebirth. Greed mode was alright for a short time but now I'm done with it. Compared to WoTL or Rebirth release there is just a complete lack of a sense of discovery because theres really nothing to discover. Unless he's holding back a massive amount of content for no reason I have no desire to play further.
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>>121446832
maybe its left over from the turbo mode they said theyd put in that isnt in
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>>121446942
I'm with you there, lad. There was no sense of "I can't put this shit down" that I got from Afterbirth that WotL and Rebirth gave me.

>Unless he's holding back a massive amount of content for no reason
He is, because muh ebin ARG.
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>>121446832
>>121446920
>>121447030
well i know what happened now
this is caused by setting EnableInterpolation to zero in config.ini
i put it back to 1 and it's back to normal
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Apparently tears up items reduce your damage
>one shot little poops as judas on first floor
>find sad onion
>two shot them on floor two
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>>121443446
Fucking really? who gives a fuck about trinkets
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Why does my game crashes after i use a pill? There's no way for me to know what pill this is too, because it crashes every time
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>>121446498
>can't double level 4 bumbo
feels bumbo man
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Post yfw the trinkets that have unknown effects probably don't actually do anything because of brilliant coding
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>>121447120
health scaling
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>>121447396
really?
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>kill one of haunt's orbits
>boss music stops
N I C E P A T C H D E S U
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>>121447339
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>just got patch 2
>azazel damage gone from being powerful to literally the power of 2 regular isaac tears
why
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Why is ed still holding the new character Keeper hostage? Is it just not finished or is he being a faggot again?
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should i take the kitty cat?
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>>121447996
They said his nerfs were bugs or something. Supposed to just increase charge time.

Seems like there are a lot of bugs lately. Afterbirth shit
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>>121448134
yeah i'm sure your heart will never run over spikes or into red poop or anything even once :^)
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>>121448140
I was playing release before this and I only noticed one bug and it was the crash bug after you beat mom's heart

now it's like I can't go a single room without finding some new bug
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>>121448343
Tbh I haven't encountered any bugs, albeit I play pretty casually. But they said the greed machine (109) was a bug, the items not being in the game were a bug, now Azazel nerf. Sounds like bullshit to me.
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good run
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>>121427717
ludovico technique
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>tiny planet + lump of coal

fantastic
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>>121448562
>Lump of Coal + Mega Tears
NO WEAKNESS
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>floor is flashing between different floors and there are no walls
not sure if bug
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>tfw going offline all day because you don't want friends to know you're playing this game constantly
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>>121448817
>Dr. Fetus + Spoon Bender + Mr. Mega

No weakness
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>>121449254
Pirate it?
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>>121447480
it's really obvious in the blue bomber challenge

You start out one-shotting the medium poops, but by the time you get the womb they take two shots
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Why can't i pick up this coin? It just bounces up and down when i try
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>>121449205
It's intentional, it's an "error room" styled super secret room.
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>>121449648
Bomb it.
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I've won
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>>121446942

>Explosivo
>Incubus
>Restock
>Box of Friends
>Toxic Shock
>Dead Eye
>Continuum
>Diplopia
>Chaos
>Sack Head

>Useless shit

Nice selective memory, faggot
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>>121449323
The fact that theres health scaling anyway makes it that much more insulting that the early level enemies still have so much health
>>
yfw this game is 60% excretions

>piss
>shit
>tears
>blood
>feti
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>>121450763
Cool. You listed the 10 good items out of 70.
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>implying angel rooms are bad
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>>121450870
Waiting for ed to stop the timegate and unlock the cum themed level and items already...
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>>121450910
How the fuck did you pull that off
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>see pic related
>proceed to the next floor
>spawn next to item room
>it has 99 bombs
I'm quite upset
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>tfw finding fruit cake while doing head trauma
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>>121450907

>Wooden Nickel
>Car Battery
>Succubus
>Jar of Flies
>Crown of Light
>8 Inch Nails
>Tech X
>Placebo
>More Options
>Circle of Protection
>Purity

>Useless shit

Need I go on
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>>121451076
Kill the angel, exit the game from the menu, then continue. The angel statue respawns each time. Reroll all the key pieces when you run out of bombs.
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>>121450985
>Dark Room variant called The White room
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So do people use greed mode seeds to get the coins up?
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>>121451190
>Mega Bean
>D12
>Curse of the tower
>Key Bum
>GB Bug
>D8
>Kidney Bean
>Obsessed Fan
>Minecrafter
>FUCKING WIZ

>Sworn Protector being an exact copy of Guardian Angel
>MILK! being an exact copy of fucking Holy Water

>Tumour transformation actively makes Brother Bobby/ Sister Maggy even worse than they already are

Need I go on? If you want more just go look at the bullshit that is tiny boss/miniboss room and some of the near unavoidable damage puzzle rooms.
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>>121451802
>released rushed because of sperglords complaining
>sperglords get mad when the game is bugged

gg
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>>121451857
Unless the "bug" is holding back the majority of the expansions content there is no way for afterbirth to be saved. It's completely dull.
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>>121451802

>Not every item is polyphemus-tier, boohoo

Most of the items you posted are neutral at worst

Mega Bean is a solid active item that freezes and damages enemies all at once

Minecrafter essentially gives you near-infinite amounts of bombs to use for secret room/tinted rock bombing

The Wiz is a tears up and anyone who can't aim diagonally is a bitch

GB Bug demolishes bosses since it applies a different status effect every frame

Milk isn't a holy water reskin you retard, do you even know what you're complaining about
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>>121452096
>actually defending Wiz
Go to bed, bedmund.
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>>121452172

People let the Wizard pill sour their opinion on Wiz too much

It's an incredible item for crowd control and lets you attack enemies from unintended angles
>>
I want to make an Isaac pvp mod, like where one player plays as Isaac and one plays as the monsters. It would be local only. Is this a good or shit idea?
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>Get 90 coins in greed mode
>Jams at 5

Bravo edmund.
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>>121452473
>local multiplayer
>on fucking pc
Stop
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>>121452473
sounds shit because youd probably have to balance it to the point of it not being fun or one of the players would get steamrolled no matter what
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>Ludovico KeeperHead
>giant floating penny
neat
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>>121452563
There's an achievement for getting 999 in there.
Have fun.
Cain's starting key is nice so maybe use that if you have to.
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>>121452663
Believe it or not some PC players actually have irl friends
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>>121452759
I have irl friends. Who the fuck wants to crowd around your fucking desk. Online is better you fucking idiot.
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>>121452563
not like theres anything to unlock
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>>121452804
Well making it online makes it about 1000 times more complicated and I have no idea how to do it
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>>121452875
Well congrats you made a shitty mod no one will play. Stop being retarded.
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>>121452747
What do you mean Cain's starting key?
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>>121452973
He starts with a key, like how Isaac starts with a bomb and Judas starts with 3 cents.
With Cain, you can walk right, check your good item room, and restart if you don't like it. Repeat til you get a good item.
>>
Does Brimstone + Mom's knife still suck?
>>
Have they buffed dr.fetus? At base maggy's damage it destroys Gurgles in one hit.
>>
>Get Mom's Knife
>Two floors later
>OOH TINY PLANET THIS MUST BE FUN

rip
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>>121453727
prob just a bug. edmund would never allow anything to be buffed
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>>121453743
hm what is tiny planet and the knife like?
>>
Edmund would be good on the balance team of a MOBA. Nerf anything that does well
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>>121453903
It swings around you and is impossible to hit anything and literally impossible to hit some enemies (wall crawlers)
>>
Man glass cannon is really good with the lost.

Pretty much carried me through greed mode.
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>>121453769
This is getting annoying. And yes, looks like dr. fetus is back to being a pure babymode like it was in original isaac.
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Fruit cake almost fucked me. Don't take it with fetus
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>>121450421
DRY BABY
>>
What's the significance of Greed mode in terms of story?
Lust mode when?
>>
dead game
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>>121454862
>implying fruit cake, missingno and chaos isn't the best combo in the game
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>>121455357
>you get fucked until you die
But anon, that's already the main game!
It even has the sexy character of Lil Horn
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>>121455557
>Littlehorn
mmm
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what kinda daily run u want f am
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If you go for angel rooms on current daily you'll get holy mantle. Not like you particularly need it to win, daily is piss easy with quad shot, cricket's head, synthoil, lots of black and soul hearts and you only need to beat heart anyway.
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>>121456129

>Going for angel rooms
>Ever

I went for devil rooms and got shittons of items that increased my tear stat. I'm on the top of the leaderboard thanks to those devil rooms
>>
>endless garbage items, getting bored
>pretty far in with okay damage and some health ups, but uninteresting run
>find d4, get ready for some shenanigans
>reroll a couple times, end up with the familiar transformation
>permanently stuck with dunce cap no matter how many rerolls after

t-thanks edmund
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>>121456129
on the 3rd floor you'll get a credit card and you'll find a darkbum, abbadon and the pact in the devil room
so, fuck angel's room
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what the actual fuck
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>>121456603

Just some nerd who is going to get leaderboard banned in a few hours, ignore it
>>
>>121456603
Don't worry. They cheat or watch a stream first
>>
Do not sexualise Little Horn
>>
Reminder you'll probably never see Immaculate Conception unless Chaos does you wonders

>tfw it could be a perfect starting item for Maggy
Everyone's starting with like two items now, buff these characters

>>121455357
I think it's a complete diversion from the main story that has nothing to do with 'Isaac's mother' and explains how Greed/Keepers/etc. are just Isaac. It's a new spin off timeline like how the Cathedral timeline is Isaac coming to terms with his sins and the Sheol timeline is Isaac losing himself in his imagination

Lust Mode: Ultra Lust is pregnant and has her own Conception ability
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>The reward for speed

Fuck you edmund.
>>
What does stud finder do
>>
>there are "people" here that don't exclusively play on hard

remove thineselves
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>>121457556
yeah I wanna fight this asshole on hard
>>
>managed to die with lord of the pit, whore of babylon and mom's pearl

increased chance for soul hearts my ass
>>
>there will never be a turbo mode at 2x everything with free-aim tears

FUCK

MY

SHIT

UP
>>
>>121457556
>there are "people" here that don't exclusively play as the Lost

remove thineselves
>>
Edited the Guardian challenge run to see if a character who could only use the Spear of Destiny would be viable.
Explosive enemies are pretty much undodgable, you'd need a longer range. A Mom's Knife with low range would work better.
The Guardian challenge also has a bunch of hard-coded stuff surrounding it. The character is an obvious one. If you try to blindfold Isaac and give him Spear of Destiny in another challenge slot, he won'r get the spear. Nice that they decided to make this challenge unique with this stuff.
>>
>>121457626

Hardmode doesn't affect as much as you think

It lowers the drop rate of hearts, makes large rooms more common, increases the chance for curse floors, and makes champion enemies more common.
>>
where are the rest of the items? only 93.
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Do you ever wish you were a pizza being eaten by a cute boy having a wank?
>>
>>121457904
And champion bosses too probably.
>>
>>121457730
Is the cheat engine table already updated?
>>
>>121458056
No, people unpacked the files and the Challenges can be easily edited through a xml file.
The hard coded shit is probably in the EXE, so that ain't changing unless someone digs in there.
>>
>DUNCE CAP
>OH COOL WHAT DOES THIS DO

h e l p
m e
>>
>>121456129
I got fucked by bomberman bomb. troll bombs kept bombing me
>>
>>121458127
you dunce
>>
>>121457935
Eat your steak more slowly.
>>
>>121457556
>thinking hard is in any way harder and not just moss fad
>>
>>121457935
Trinkets and pickups count, too.
>>
>>121438220
>He's deliberately holding back items etc.

Is he? He said there were 120 new items being added in Afterbirth.. There are exactly 120 new things, if you include the new Trinkets.
>>
>get through multiple room where hands fall from the sky and there's nothing you can do to avoid them
>get through boss fight against the bloat with half a heart left because I got hit by every single beam attack twice
>died to red poop
today I played the guardian challenge
>>
>>121458272
is that where he said one of the stuff is a lie?
>>
>>121457935
Who cares, the few good ones will just get nerfed to shit anyway
>>
>>121457935
Check platinumgod.

The new items + new trinkets = exactly 120
>>
So is 'Keeper' actually a hidden character

Or is it just some leftover files from something that wasnt finished
>>
>>121457935
>>121458372
There are about 10 achievements from afterbirth that are still unachievable. Presumably these are tied to Keeper and his item unlocks.
Blame ed for releasing an unfinished DLC
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so what were your favorite synergies
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>>121458324
>Satan has "my shadow" for 1 heart
>figure I might as well get something out of all the times this retard gets hurt
>the little thing dies instantly if it touches your spear
>>
>>121458580
what the hell is happening to satan's tears?
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>>121458580
Greed Mode IV Bag.
>>
Just did The Guardian first try, thanks Stopwatch for making it easy. Now to try Brains for the next five hours.
>>
>>121458682

What hit him at the end?
>>
>>121458739
Pretty sure sticky bomb blew up
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>>121458682
>that fucking armor calculation
Whose fucking retarded idea was this? I don't feel overpowered when I'm doing shit all damage.

>>121458739
It's how the damage is calculated on the new bosses. The more damage you do, the less damage they take. At some point it resets I think and he took all the damage at once. It's fucking stupid and makes the hush not even worth versing.
>>
>>121458681
Stopwatch slows them down, The Soul passively pushes tears away from Isaac. Since Satan's tears are so slow, they're affected by it a lot more than if an enemy was tossing fast tears at you, cause inertia and shit.
>>
>>121457705
This, I wanted an actual 2x speed challenge where EVERYTHING moved faster, not just the enemies
>>
>>121458739
I don't know.

He just randomly died.

I didn't have Midas Touch as far as I remember so it wasn't that. How mysterious.

Maybe >>121458803 is right and it just resets randomly, which is fucking stupid.

The entire idea of bosses scaling with your damage is retarded anyway. What is even the point
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Should I?
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>>121459001
Yes, take Lil' Brim. The Pact won't do you any good in the Brains! challenge.
>>
>>121459001
I think they nerfed brimstone's damage in general with the az nerf, so probably not
>>
>beat hush
>no chest, just sheol/cathedral
was there another update? what the fuck edmund.
>>
>made my way through the cathedral as cain with the only damage up being jesus juice
>everything takes eight years to kill and I have hardly any hearts
>get down to the chest and the mini-boss before the boss room is a champion bloat
>takes 84432 years to do any damage because "lol instant brimstone XDDdd" if I go anywhere near the sides
I hate this
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>>121459001
BRimstone? BRimstone?
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>>121459049
>>121459096
Got Lil' Brim, and now I found the stop watch. Guess I'm finally completing this challenge.
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>>121459191
PacT
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>>121459309
I'm from Spain, why is Portugal so fucking shitty?
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>>121459180
I'm not entirely certain, but after you get the chest and Ending 17 once it doesn't show up again (which may or may not be a bug).

>>121459214
Congrats, the most tedious of the new challenges is out of the way now. Are you finished Speed! yet?
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>>121459362
Yep, finished it yesterday, Ipecac in first floor and easy bosses did it for me
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>>121459340
I ask myself that every day.
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>devil room only every gives shitty familiars
>play family man
>2 damage items

simply epic
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>>121459180
The chest only shows up the first time you kill Hush, so you can get Ending 17.

After that it will spawn Sheol/Cathedral.
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>>121459580
>tfw the Blindfold in Family Man prevents that stupid Tumor shit

It's like replacing one annoying gimmick with another
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>be lost
>use d4
>get minimal range dr fetus
every time I shoot it's exactly as if I pressed E
the next 6 rooms are going to be tricky
>>
What is it with butthurt devs and food analogies anyway?
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>>121459841
2015-2015
Here lies anon, he died the very next room to a mulliboom because his bombs were piercing and enemies could walk right through them. He did not even get mad because he knew nothing good would come out of playing the lost
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>>121459892
1 0 0 $ S T E A K
0
0
$
S
T
E
A
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Is The Lost actually playable now that he has the D4

I already unlocked Godhead, but now I need to kill Hush and Greed and Mega Satan

But I don't think I can put myself through tyhat again
>>
>implying fatmund mcnugget himself wouldn't gobble that hundo dolla steak in one bite
>>
Is there anyway to fix the shitty controller deadzones for Afterbirth?
>>
If you use the shovel in the cathedral do you get to go to the chest or does it open a hatch into sheol?
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Ok guys lets settle this.
Who is the best familiar and why is it Gemini?
>kinda cute
>great range
>good damage
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>>121460968
i really like mongo baby, i havent really seen anyone else talk about him that much but whenever i pick him up i seem to do really well
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>>121460968
That's not Seraphim or Dark Bum
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>>121458580
Mom's Knife + Tech X is hilarious. You get the regular knife still plus a MASSIVE laser ring
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>>121461082
Mongo baby is nice but he's been outclassed by Incubus and BASED SUCCUBUS
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Quick, /big/, make a new character you'd want to play as.
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>enemies' brimstone lasers aren't slowed down by the stop watch
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>>121461594
Jesus. Starts with the bible , 3 red hearts and 3 lives. shitty damage , shitty range , shitty everything.
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>>121461795
>not starting with 8 inch nails, blood of the martyr and jesus juice
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>>121460467
Shovel completely stops working after the Womb levels
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>>121461857
are you kidding anon? That would be + 3 damage right from the start. That 2 damage to much on the edmund fun chart.
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>>121429690
Edmundo said that doing rebirth hand drawn would take too long, considering he's also working on other projects. Not that I disagree with you, the original did look better.
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>>121461594
David
Small Rock
Inferior genetics
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>>121461594
a character that can't pick up items, dies in one hit, and fucks my mom when i pick it
>>
Did anyone here believe in Edmund's "it's just a bug" bullshit? :^)
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>>121462234
anon please. You made it too belivable , now edmund may do it.
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>>121461594
>David
>starts with dead eye and high range and shot speed
>low damage and tears
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>>121462234
>a character that can't pick up items
Literally Keeper.
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>All these people whining about Wiz Transformation
>tfw beat Hush with The Lost, relying on Infestation 2, Explosivo, Ipecac, Pentagram Poly Pact Abaddon as Damage Ups, with Wiz Transformation yesterday
>never needed to dodge his tear blasts because 3 Pretty Flies
>kept dying mostly because running into my own Ipecac shots
>Can only hit Hush with one Ipecac at a time, never both or explosion kills me
>only drawback of Ipecac Wiz
Took an hour of Alt F4 Savescums but it worked.

Not sure if Wiz transformation also gives Spectral Tears like Dunce Cap
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>gud Brains challenge
>Bloat's eyes don't get affected by the Stop Watch
>Shoots brimstone as fast as regular speed
>Getting in this room through north entrance pretty much means you're dead
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>>121462381
>say that Wiz isn't bad
>still needs to savescum for a whole hour because of it

u w0t m8?
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>>121462381
You're playing The Lost, he has spectral tears now

Has nothing to do with the shitty Wizard shots
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>how you want your holy mantle D4 reroll?
>JUST
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>>121462517
>Picking up Tiny Planet
You chose this path.
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>>121462517
Tiny Planet is pretty good desu.
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>>121462568
L2Read, I used the D4 which got me holy mantle and holy planet
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picking up familiars was a mistake
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>>121462603
on its own it's garbage desu
>>
Is it true this is coming out for iOS
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>>121462769
As bad as default tears desu.
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>>121462827
Yes. Good luck with Speed challenge.
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>>121461795
>no resurrection item
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Ipecac + dr fetus now turns into bob's bomb which explodes upon an impact with an enemy (probably with terrain as well if not for spectral tears) and does a ton of damage.
NOICE!
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Are all the items out yet
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>mfw i play this on old-ass laptop and the game slows down so much that it becomes a cakewalk
just like regular binding of isaac
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>>121462945
>every time he resurrects he starts with less health but has higher damage, with the last live gaining godhead
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>It Lives spawns in Greed Mode
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>>121463253
>Fun

You stop that
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>>121463067
And wow, i can't get killed by my own shot!
DOUBLE NOICE!
>>
OH MY GOD

THIS FUCKING AZAZEL DAILY

THIS CHARACTER SUCKS ASS
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>>121463067
Did this before Afterbirth.
Though, it only protected you from bomb damage if the bomb exploded through contact before Afterbirth.
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>>121463462
You get quad shot from one of the challenge rooms and one of the angel rooms gives you holy mantle. Easy as fuck daily desu.
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>>121463575
>angel rooms
>not taking the credit card to the devil room and getting free dark bum + abaddon + pact
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>>121462235
the bug was that he wanted his little ARG built around people grinding 999 coins in greed mode but the game was broken
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>>121463721
I think I wasted my credit card on stupid shit. I can't even remember what I used it for.
>>
>le funny retro vision meme
Fuck this garbage pill
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>>121463993
can someone post a pic of what it does? i'm pretty sure that it's the one that crashes my game
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>>121463993
>Butt Bombs
>Curse of Darkness
>Burning Basement
>Retro Vision
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>>121463067
>now
it was like this since rebirth

it gets crazy with soy milk

and now it gets even more crazy with glitter bombs, sad bombs, tech X, scatter bombs and bomber boy. I have an i7 4.770k @ 4.4ghz and the game runs at 20fps when I get that combo because it spawns hundreds of pickups per second.
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>>121462235
No, the thing that does it for me is that someone took a screenshot of one of Tyrone's streams pre-patch where he found the new greed head item in a chest. He then walked out the room, completely ignoring it like it never happened.
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>>121464306
>wario mains
>>
>doing greed mode with lost
>gnawed leaf and daddy long legs, run is a good as done
>just cleared sheol, about to go to the shop
>as enter the room with the trapdoor to the next level curse of the maze kicks in and teleports me to curse room
NICE GAME EDMUND
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>>121464337
Well, they have slightly different version they play on.
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>>121463536
Heh, i one-shotted The Fallen before he divided! That's first time in several hundreds of hours then i managed to do that. And now would you look at that! Game can be nice then it wants to be.
Kinda sad that i'm not taking quad shot though.
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>>121464381
Curses are some of the worst case of artificial difficulty this game has to offer

Labyrinth is a bummer to get because it cuts everything in half but Bosses and Item Rooms, but Blind, Unknown and Lost are fucking stupid. Maze is the most annoying shit ever

This is the reason Black Candle is my favorite item
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>>121464381
I never understood why flying lets you avoid damage going in and not out, that makes no fucking sense
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>>121464381
Maybe if you had just slowed down a little :^)
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>>121464431
I understand that he was probably on a dev build or something but why would he completely ignore the item without saying anything?
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>>121464638
>Blind
fucking hate this one, it's so stupid

there should be a beggar-like machine in the shop that removes the curse of the current floor if you donate like 5-10 coins
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>spectral is still broken on Lilith
nice game ed
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>Pay to Play
>first shop contains Sack Head
thank you jesus

How long until this gets nerfed? It's an almost guaranteed 100 coins
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>>121464641
So that you still pay a price for going into the room
>>
Brains ended up being a lot easier than I thought, all you need to do is sit after each room and make sure you get all the brains before entering a new one. Plus save up your bombs for Womb/Cathedral.
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>>121464754
Get Rune Bag, hope for Dagaz.
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>>121462235
I think that he made a legitimate mistake to begin with, but then when full retard by being willfully abtruse

It took him so fucking long to actually be clear about what happened, which he could have done on day 1 instead of shitposting on twitter
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>>121464987
but if you fly in without taking damage, what changes to make you take damage flying out, its not consistent
>>
>>121465046
>if an arrow gets inside you easily, why can't it come out easy?
>>
>DOUBLE PINK HAUNT
HOW IS THIS A FIRST FLOOR BOSS

HOW IS THIS A FIRST FLOOR BOSSSSSSSSS
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>>121465116
how is that the same thing, if you can fly in between spikes going in why can't you going otu
>>
How the fuck did I leave this thread for a few hours and its still not full
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>>121465036
He still did not clear completely what happened. Also, what kind of mistake that could possibly be?
>>
>>121465189
maybe the spikes are bigger on the inside
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>>121465046
That's a piece of an old glitch that they decided to leave in the game. In the original Isaac before one patch those spike counted as floor spikes or something so you could fly in and out without taking any damage. Dunno why they decided to make it like they did but here you go.
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>>121464453
>Forget Me Now
>Double Boss Rush possible.

I bet you didn't take it ya pussy
>>
how are people getting like sixty-grand points? or rather, assuming someone's not cheat-engine-ing and knows exactly what to pick up and what to reroll, which rocks to bomb, etc, can you reasonably accrue 60k points in a run down to like the womb? where do they all fucking come from? i tend to scour the levels, but i don't think i've gone above 30k yet
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>>121465289
Dead game
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>>121465421
maybe for you
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>>121465515
It's cheat engine.
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>>121465494
Nah, holy mantle is simply too good to give up as lost. Didn't help me in the end though.
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>>121465189
you can see the spikes point inwards; when you go into a cursed room, the spikes aren't angled towards you
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>>121465620
I'll be honest, when I first saw The Lost I thought he wasn't just the super hidden character like ??? but also the ultimate final boss like ??? was for The Chest

Then The Lost and Mega Stan ended up both being shit. At least the rest of Rebirth was fun, I guess
>>
>>121465515
Those people are cheating. There's no way to get 60k points on a blind run
>>
Are there any big secrets left in the game?

>>121465572
>>121465768
How could they not have some anti cheat in place? People cheating to get top scores on leaderboards isn't that uncommon.
>>
>>121465768
but assuming they're cheating by using prior knowledge; watching someone go through the run beforehand, but not using cheat engine proper to just inflate their numbers, is 60k possible?
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>>121466073
>Are there any big secrets left in the game?
Keeper and some items. Might be timegated.
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>>121465116
Awful comparison.
>>
>magnetic tears
May as well just fucking restart.
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>>121466073
>How could they not have some anti cheat in place?
That will require a very complex algorithm desu.
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>>121466073
>expecting anti-cheating to be programmed into a game that was released with tons of bugs
>expecting Eggshit to care about that
>he'd rather nerf another character before fixing anything
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>D100
>roll into eternal wizard
>turn overpowered as fuck run into shit

why edmund?
>>
Is Binding of Isacc a roguelike?
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>Hit once
>Go invisible
>Fly does the job
>????????
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>>121466452
The core gameplay is, but it has the twist of having free movement and real time gameplay
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>d8+soy milk
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>>121466452
No, it's rogue-lite or roguelike-like or whatever people call them these days. Real roguelikes are grid- and turn based.
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>>121466553
Are roguelikes generally easy to break as Isacc is? I've gotten so many items before that the game has crashed.
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>>121466458
>Fucking up this big

kek
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>>121466627
First, it's Isaac. Also yes, but they usually have waaay less content so they're easier to balance.
>>
BASED
CHAOS
CARD

Finally beat hush with the lost

now I'm only missing 2 achievements (one shitty baby and generosity)
>>
>>121466113
awful post desu
>>
>doing greed mode as Cain
>pick up cursed eye without thinking
>make it all the way to Ultra Greed
>Monstro lands RIGHT on top of me and I get teleported out
>when I go back in Monstro isn't there
Monstro?
>>
I had my friend tell me that a way to make sure that you're able to donate a decent amount of money each greed run is by making sure that every bum you see on a run pays out.
Anbody know if theres any truth to this?
>>
>be colorblind
>literally can't distinguish the red ghosts and their brimstone beams when on a red floor of the womb

Thanks Edmond.
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>>121466704
anyone know why the blinding baby achievement is busted i feel like its gotta be a coincidence that its the lost's hardest challenge
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>proptosis on onan's streak

ez
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>>121467038
Since when some fag being colorblind is Edmunds problem?
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>>121467038
how the hell are you not stepping in the creep on the womb and killing yourself all the time?
I step on that shit by accident at least once a run
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Should I?
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>>121461594
Joseph
Starts with one heart of each color a and a Three Dollar Bill.
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>>121467287
>as Judas
>Mom's Contact + Mysterious Liquid
YES, TAKE IT
>>
>>121467287
No
Enjoy your steak
>>
>>121467287
Are you a wizard?
>>
>>121448041
Do we know anything about Keeper besides its name?
>>
>>121467287
Brimstone is literally the only thing Ed bothered updating the synergies for.
>>
>>121464963
its almost a guaranteed game break, also why the fuck would you want him to nerf it? Getting sackboy is amazing
>>
>>121467553
assets not all in the game
achievement/secret unlocks not in the game
>>
>>121467014
Your friend sound like a fag
>>
>>121467553
it has been hinted that he shoots bees out of his cock
>>
>>121467553
Coins instead of health. It's some old dude with cross on his head (might be Jesus). Has ~9 achievements tied to him.
>>
>>121450763
>Dead Eye
>Good

Inb4 git gud

A game like Isaac simply isn't meant to have such an item
>>
>>121467581
>why the fuck would you want him to nerf it?
Because it's fun :^)
>>
>>121466082
I highly doubt it to be quite honest homie
>>
>>121466284
thats your fault for being a stupid fuck and yoloing when you already have a win.
In the end its always your own hubris that kills you
>>
>>121467681
It's still better than no item at all, the damage boost will be inconsistent but it will still be there.
>>
>>121467745
who dares wins anon
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>>121461725
>my op gamewinning item isn't broken enough guys!
>>
>>121467727
I dont really pay attention to the points, but is there any type of break that someone could do in order to get a fuckton of points? only thing i can think of is the d7 spam but now thats down the shitter
>>
>>121467764
>Dead Eye
I kinda like it but it doesn't seem to synergize well with other items like piercing (or I'm mistaken about it idk) so it's kinda meh
>>
>>121467663
maybe its isaacs dad or some shit, cause ya know how all the other keepers are just dead isaacs. I dont fuckin know though I hope its just some random bullshit that doesnt make sense
>>
>>121467553
Yes

we know his stats and how he works

>starts with a built-in triple shot
>Np hp, uses coins instead of HP but his max hp (I think it's 8 coins?) equals 2 soul hearts
>pick up hearts become blue flies
>He's as slow as Maggy.
>Has Isaac's tears, shot speed and range
>His base damage is 3.5 (1.20 multiplier, same as Cain)
>he's an old man
>>
>>121467848
The only thing broken about it is not doing everything it's supposed to do.
>>
>>121467848
I believe it was a satire my friend
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>>121465139
I WANT TO GET OFF MCMILLENS WILD RIDE
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>>121467336
Thanks, now I'm god.
I'm glad Edmund cares about the Brimstone synergies, back before in the original game brimstone cancelled every fucking other item.
>>
>>121467269
i bet because the creep shines ( or atleast change color ) he can distinguish that
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>>121462383
because brimstone is instant....
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I've made a huge mistake
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>>121468279
doesn't excuse Bloat's poor design
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>>121468286
you have other 4 lives. good luck never give up
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>>121468219
Epic Fetus + Brimstone + Rubber Tears + Loki's Horns is some fucking hilarious bullshit.
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>>121468286
I'm proud to have gone this far without getting hit
3 lives to go
>>
>>121463993
It's even worse when you're a poorfag getting by with 7 year old hardware

Hello, lagspikes in tough rooms

Why are there so many shit pill effects?
>>
>>121468431

____________________________STEAK_________________________
>>
So dataminers left Edmund so butthurt he intentionally left items out of the game so they couldn't find it?
>>
Dry Baby > Hush
>>
>>121468417
good luck, I believe in you
>>
>>121457373
nobody knows yet, most likely something to do with after you kill either greed or hush, leaning more toward hush at this point bc greed seems to be going in a different direction
>>
>>121468542
drybaby is the hero we deserve
>>
>>121456353
soymilk used to be like that too just keep goin till you get tiny planet or some shit idk
>>
>>121468360
The Bloat isn't difficult when you have flying

Honestly everything after the Depths need some fine-tuning. Too many bosses you're forced to fight and after the Womb the two-level system just kind of stops unless you count Cathedral/Chest, Sheol/Dark Room one area and even there there's too many 'final bosses'

If there was more room to put the bosses, it wouldn't suck so much dumping all the hard bosses in like the third floor or some shit
>>
>>121461594
I want an Onan character
Starts with Soy Milk and Number One
>>
>>121468417
Actually i understood 1 thing. If you're playing as the lost and want to go for hush you need not damage, because damage means fuck all against hush. You need 3 orbitals, dead cat and holy mantle or the soul. That would help a lot more.
>>
So, blue womb or sheol?
I haven't unlocked anything on those floors with Judas.
I'm the retarded with the Brimstone (>>121459001)
I don't even know if I can do both on the same run
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>>121469101
Blue Womb
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thanks eggman edmund
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>>121469101
You're who
>>
>>121468927
When I beat Hush the other day with the Lost, I had 3 pretty flies. I just ignored his bullet hell and continuum tears. His shots only got through on one of the tries.

I did also have Infestation 2 though not hive mind, and got blue spiders off of the waves of flies and gapers he spawns, so that helped
>>
>>121469225
Oh shit I cited the wrong post
>>
>>121461594
a character with low average stats and 1 sin, 1 soul and half an eternal.

starts with a familiar that increases the chance for getting bomb-based items and the bomb buddy spacebar item
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Holy fuck. Time to Dark Room.
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>>121469445
>that stats
it will be piss easy
>>
>Tammy's Head + Car Battery + Dead Onion
It's like Brimstone but bad.
>>
>doing pay to play
>get to isaac
>pretty great run, six hearts left but my damage isn't great
>EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HIS LIGHT PILLAR ATTACKS ALWAYS END UP HITTING THE MIDDLE OF THE BOTTOM OF THE ROOM

Eat shit Edmund
>>
Holy shit Robo baby 2.0 is not garbage now. He actually shoots stuff when enemies are in his view. He works like a poor man's ludovico or blue baby's friend.

>>121423451
>>
>>121469973
stick to corners retard
>>
>>121470009
That's a much worse strategy
>>
>>121470103
>>121469973
I believe the pattern is "Stick to the top corner of the opposite side of where he starts."
>>
>>121470103
I never ever got hit in a corner
>>
>Unlocked Immaculate Conception this morning

Gee, nice unlocking an item I'll never fucking see because Angel Rooms are shit

Maggy starting with this shit when?
>>
>>121469973
>>121470009
Forreal, thats some day one shit kid
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>>121470346
Before Afterbirth I did that but since then it seems to hit corners fucking constantly, but I always run to the bottom corner across from where it starts so maybe the top corner will work
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>>121470325
or the bottom of the corner where he does start
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>>121470325
If you're gud you can observe behavior of the pillars and dodge them by moving in the space in between where pillars should appear.
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>Rag Man on first floor

R :)
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>>121470379
Why ?the concept of that item against the basic thought pattern of an average isaac player.
step 1 dont get it
step 2 get deals with the devil
step 3 go full polaroid invincibility
to use that garbage you need to pick up hearts which you cant do if you're good enough to not get it
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>>121470564
>not double something boss in a tiny room with some shit in the corners like red fires
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>>121470571
Because at least Maggy can restore her health with the Yum Heart. It could provide interesting synergy if the fucking Holy-meta of Isaac wasn't garbage

Angel rooms suck, their items suck, things related to anything Holy in Isaac sucks and Ed doesn't seem to know how to balance any of this. Maggy would probably be the best choice to use Immaculate Conception compared to absolutely anyone else
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>>121470379
>Greed Box doesn't unlock extra starting items for every character every 100 coins or so
Eve gets Black Feather
Maggy gets Immaculate Conception
Judas gets Judas' Shadow
Etc
It'd be fun
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So I'm playing hard mode and every power up room has a devil room power up and every devil room has had an angel room power up, havent gotten an angel room yet though. The fuck is going on.
>>
>>121470739
>The first and second familiars will spawn after picking up 15 heart pickups each.
no , even immaculate can save angels items.
>>
>>121470557
theres also a safe spot in front of the door i like to go to when Im feeling saucy
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>>121470812
that sounds quite... chaotic (wink wink)
>>
So what does the Greed Machine unlock?
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>>121470886
Oh really? I thought it just dropped some pickups when you get it, thats rad as fuck.
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>>121470792
no fun allowed
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>>121470926
it's shit. it take some random items and put it in some random pools. wait until you get soymilk in the blind shop.
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>>121470792
>Samson with Bloodlust + Lusty Blood
Oh lawdy
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>>121471005
>IV bag + the atomic / poison aoe item
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>>121471003
Why would you go to the shop on the curse of the blind?
Soy milk is fun btw.
>>
>>121470917
Lucky Pennies (some pennies randomly give Luck Up)
Special Shopkeepers with Nickels for eyes (higher chance to drop money when bombed)
Wooden Nickel (usable item, 50/50 chance to spawn a coin)
Cain starts with a Paperclip
Nothing between 69 and 999 coins, you get an achievement for 999 coins but it's a bitch to get to
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>>121470792
>>121471005
Unlocking new items like Paperclip Cain or D6 Isaac would be fucking perfect for everyone who's been untouched since Rebirth. Maggy's been the same fucking character since Vanilla and somehow there was a power creep. She'd work best as a Holy counterpart to Lilith that focused on health-related shenanigans than familiars or damage like Lilith and Eve
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This is insane.
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>>121471096
What? For real? I already had it up to 109 before the update, I thought there would be unlocks after it. How fucking lame.
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>>121471138
you're gonna die to some stupid unavoidable bullshit, calling it
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>>121471094
it happened the first time i had taken Chaos. I still didnt know what was the effect and had tons of money with the donation machine jamed. I though i could get black candel , what a fool i was.
>>
Rainbow Worm is hilarious with Ludovico, it looks like your tear has Tourette's when it starts spinning out of nowhere
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>>121471138
How did you get the pact and sacred heart?
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>>121471254
Enjoying that steak yet?
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>>121471124
yea maggies been the most shit character for a long time, id rather play azazel right now then her. most plain spaghetti character by far
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>Run going good
>Get nine lives
>BIG MISTAKE
>Stops me from Alt F4ing
>Get killed by Stain popping up in Boss Rush
>Kicks me out
>Doesn't let me savescum to before it
Never picking up Dead Cat as the Lost ever again. Fuck that shit.
Still going to go give the Lamb this knife in his forehead.
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>>121471308
CHAOS
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>>121471302
Taking items on the curse of the blind is always a risk.
>>
>Try for Mega Satan
>Reset half an hour for a good start
>Ignore all Devil Deals
>No Angel Rooms
>Womb 1
>Get another Devil Room
Thanks Eggman McMulligan.
>>
>>121471138
>Sacred Heart
I've seen that once in 150 hours of Isaac
Hopefully with Chaos it'll show up in a different item pool at some point
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>>121471421
it was a calculated risk before taking Chaos . shop has only good - very good tier items.
>>
>>121471308
probably chaos
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>>121471421
>have dr fetus
>curse of the blind
>pick up item
>it's the one that makes you shoot from the back of your head sometimes
>think it can't get any worse
>pick up a second item
>bomb blows up into mini bombs
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>>121471501
>little baggie
>little baggie
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>>121470571
*permanent polaroid invincibility
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>>121471501
>>121471627
also broken stopwatch
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>>121471627
>little baggie
>stats upgrades + telepils.
>>121471740
>broken stopwatch
it's a 50 % good or bad
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YES
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>>121471689
i didnt know someone drew comics about egghead. is there more?
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>>121471791
>little baggie
no more tarot cards and you get stuck with a health down bad trip tears down and retro vision
>broken stopwatch
one half literally makes the game a couple notches harder, the other one makes the entire run boring as fuck and fucks with you music
>>
>>121471689
This comic isn't even funny. Stop posting it.
>>
Chaos might've been the best thing to happen to this game since all the rooms with specific item pools are now fucked

Item rooms have a load of shit in them, Satan has a load of shit+barely shows up, Angel Rooms are the worst designed pieces of shit in the game

Thanks to Chaos, fuck the rules
>>
Are there Afterbirth seeds for unlocking the Lost yet? Fuck trying to find a fucking Mulliboom on the basement, jesus.

Oh yeah, and if I die in the wrong place and Alt + F4 before the death screen, does that invalidate the streak of deaths required?
>>
>>121472038
https://youtu.be/I-4wZwXuUqo?t=1856
based on a true story though
>>
>>121472023
>health down
did you say health up ?
>bad trip
did you say full health?
>retro vision
ok i can say nothing against this one
>tears down
phd / virgo
>the other one makes the entire run boring as fuck and fucks with you music
i listen to my own music anyway
>>
>>121472046
I want a "Chaos Theory" challenge. Curse of the Maze on every floor, start with Chaos, Three Dollar Bill, Fruitcake, Rainbow Worm, Dead Sea Scrolls, and 404.
>>
>>121472046
>enter demon room
>lemon mishap + bob's brain
thanks chaos
>>
>>121472171
Doesn't make it funny. You literally post it 24/7. It wasn't funny the first time, nor was it funny the next twenty times.
>>
>>121472363
I think people might be reposting it? I certainly post it once a day at most, autist
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Damn. I couldn't savescum due to Dead Cat, and this shit happens. A room full of the black Boneys.

Atleast I got the Mind unlocked. For now.
>>
>>121472267
i want a "big bang theory" challenge . dr fetus + sad bombs + item that doubles bombs. Pyromaniac and any item that change tears are taken out of the pools.
>>
>>121472461
>bomb explosion sound changed to "BAZINGA"
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>>121471138
Up or down? I can never decide.
>>
>>121472586
>the final boss is a stupid blonde
>>
>>121472741
Well which photo did you take?
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>IPECAC
>Marked
>>
>>121472234
Also i can never think of a time where I would ever need to hold two pills at the same time, not really ever a need to buy it since with pills you almost always just pop them immediately, as opposed to tarot cards where most them are used in a specific situation.
Doesnt change the fact that more than half of the pills are negative, and phd is retarded and will count retro vision, explosive diarrhea, r u a wizard, and some other shitty ones i cant remember as "good" pills
never a circumstance where the item is useful in the slightest
>>
>>121472994
I'm always curious about synergies but come on man, you should have seen this coming
>>
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What the fucking fuck I'm the brimstone overlord
>>
I'm not understanding onan's streak. Why am I randomly taking damage? I flipped the fuck out the first time thinking it was an enemy.
>>
>>121473070
>Not Loki's Horns + Epic Fetus + Brimstone + Lil' Brim + Incubus + Quad Shot
Eh needs more Brimstone
>>
>>121473175
Dont miss
also
>git gud
>>
>>121473175
>randomly
>>
>>121473035
>Bomb sinergies
hold 2 diarrea pills to melt bosses
>2 telepils
never have to get hit again in the curserooms
>>
>doing Onan's streak
>take explosivo thinking it'll help me with bosses
>every time a tear sticks to an enemy, if I kill that enemy before it explodes the tear drops down and I take damage
>die because if I shot a sticky bomb tear I would have to wait and dodge until it blew up
>>
>>121473290

So you get hurt if you miss your shots. Ok so THAT'S why that anon was complaining about the dunce cap. I mean it's a shit item, but there was a deeper level to that complaint.
>>
>>121473193
I've got A Lump Of Coal and IPECAC.
This is just the beginning
>>
>>121472442
>once a day

Still too much. Faggot.
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>>121473806
>24/7
>>
>>121472442
>once a day
>calling others autistic

O I am leffen
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I expected to find this on the OP but found nothing, where can I find the OST for this game?

With Afterbirth content included, of course.
>>
What is better with brimstone, Number One or Fire Mind?
>>
is it true hush's hp depends on how fast you kill blue baby at the start?
>>
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>>121473175
>>121473193
>Loki's Horns + Brimstone + Lil' Brimstone + Incubus + Mongo Baby behind Incubus + Mutant Spider + Monstro's Lung + Mom's Eye + Rubber Cement + Libra + Proptosis + Any Item that gives Homing Tears with Tammy's Head as the Activated Item
>>
>>121473884
not like as a rule, I just post it when NL related shit comes up
which is almost every day

I mean that's what we're here for, isn't it? This is an imageboard, we post images related to the subject

>>121473917
No, it has auto-correcting HP depending on your DPS
>>
>>121473908
If you have decent fire rate, fire mind. If you don't number one.
>>
>>121473874

Has he started doing the challenges yet? Those are the best videos.
>>
>>121473986
You don't have to post it every time, autist.
>>
i am so fucking disapointed in this game.

more fucking co-op babies.
tonnes of fucking shit items. flies/familiars that follow where you've moved but with a one second delay? what about that is fun?
glitches out the fucking ass
shit 'puzzle' rooms

what else am i missing? I haven't been this pissed at a game release in years.
>>
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I'm >>121473070
Rate my beam
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>>121474306
relax anon, we're just making sure you're enjoying your steak at a steady pace

more will come later
>>
Can we think up some items that haven't been done yet?

I'm surprised we got these annoying ass puzzle rooms instead of those elevated rooms from that one picture that used to get posted before this general died.
>>
>>121474146
Okay anon, I'll do what you say, autist
>>
>>121474401
thunderbolt/10 senpai
>>
>>121473339
Youre putting too much thought into an item that isnt ever worth 15 cents, if youre blind and have blankcard jera and youre waiting do some freaky shit on the chest then you're fucked, if you fucked up your deal with devil and had a joker card for that occasion, youre fucked, if youre the lost and you finally found that chaos card to get that motherfucker hush, youre super fucked

Its not ever "good" the times when its not bad its basically the same as not having it. And its absolutely shit compared to how good starter deck. the situations you described are one time uses not to mention that a double explosive diarrhea probably isnt gonna melt that many bosses, and saving half of a heart to get out of a curse room is definitely not worth fifteen cents
>>
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>>121474401
>>
>>121474923
spoopy/10
>>
Jesus.
You start with 3 hearts and shitty stats. If you die you reappear 3 floors below with only one soul heart and fucking broken overpowered stats.
Discuss
>>
does marked work with brimstone?
>>
>>121475246
>>121475246
New thread, consume slowly
>>
>>121474547
bean baby
it's a co-op baby who farts everytime someone farts (enemy, player)
>>
>>121475245
Too easy, everyone would die caves I and then come back and win, what would be cool is that when you come back you respawn as the lost on the same floor with a *2.5 multiplier to damage and tears, i would enjoy that character
>>
Please someone help me. I hate this fucking shit. I've played isaac rebirth on a cracked version by "R.G. Mechanics", and i can't find the savedata ANYWHERE. I looked for them in every fucking folder of my pc and i can't manage to find them. The game still loads my savegame tho, so i think they must be somewhere. Any idea? I actually bought the game via steam with the afterbirth dlc, but i don't want to lose my savegame. Please help
>>
>>121474306
+ loads more unavoidable damage
+ challenges that are 95% luck
>>
>>121475472
>you respawn as the lost
>use that to get Lost unlocks
>actual Lost is never played again
>ever
>ever
Yes please.
>>
>see transformations
>no eyes transformation
>no spider transformation
YOU FUCKED IT UP NICALIS
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>>121477952
>no eyes transformation
Witch of Hemwick-like appearance? Would b cool.

>doing retard wrangler
>blocking shots and killing shit like a champ
>"har har those little bitches were blowing the difficulty out of proportion"
>Mom fight
>red mom
>realization hits metaphorically as well as literally
I deserved that one.
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