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Forbidden Love Edition

NIGHTMARE SLAIN >>121234351

>Patch 1.05
http://www.jp.playstation.com/op/bloodborne/news/2015/07/information0706.html

>DLC Info (Out 24/11/2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbGdIdHOO3I
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/bloodborne-ps4/the-old-hunters-dlc/

>Planners
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne
http://bloodborne.frontbuffer.com

>MP Range Calculator
https://mpql.net/tools/bloodborne/

>Screenshots
http://gematsu.com/gallery/bloodborne/
http://imgur.com/a/UsDJ2

>Guide Scans
http://justsomefaggot.imgur.com/

>Concept Art
http://www.creativeuncut.com/art_bloodborne_a.html

>Co-Op & PvP
http://www.bloodbell.com/
Official PvP Chalice: hizzngr3 (Pthumeru Root)
Saturday Fight Club: 6cb7ieyy (every Saturday 6pm EST, rules: http://imgur.com/1RjNbF4)

>Chalice Speedrun Guide
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMkznHPuGY4

>CD finds & Weapon Variants
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q9enxffA3dyKGu6IVg-P4IVgmKSUYSP9UOOiThHmPIU/htmlview?sle=true
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1syKnSKflHbFiGY4pXkfIeXoMa2Lp9X1aXyme2qaTen4/htmlview?sle=true#gid=1163029848
http://pastebin.com/V03vDSCq
http://www.reddit.com/r/bloodborne/comments/3184gy/chalice_dungeon_resources_faq/

>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS

>Wikis
http://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com
http://bloodborne.wikidot.com/
http://bloodborne.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodborne

>I need help in Chalice Dungeons!
1. Make sure you don't have an Oath rune equipped, your network is set to Worldwide, & your chalice is set to Open
2. Set a password with at least one number & one letter (the more the better)
3. Provide glyph if necessary
4. Due to 1.05, there is no longer a way to Dungeon skip via SRRC
5. More info regarding MP for CD's @ http://pastebin.com/R2ZSmner

>Wheel & Deal Info
http://ssjnugget.imgur.com

>Beasthood & Claws Info
http://pastebin.com/dD7Cv5mx
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NO ONE SAYS KOS OR KOSM
THEY SAY COSMOS
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>>121341827

kosmos
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So what are the chances of this actually being a patch and not just server maintenance?
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>>121341940
Probably pretty slim.
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>>121341827
Kos or kosm isn't about the kosmos though.
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>>121342036
>The cosmos, of course!
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>>121342014
God damn it Luci stop saying things I don't like.
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Friendly reminder to IGNORE shit posters and trips fags! Thank you and have a nice thread
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>>121341940
I'm pretty sure we're getting a patch of some sort. I don't think they've ever done an scheduled maintenance without giving us a patch with it.

However, don't expect anything new yet, or even a major patch. I would expect maybe a couple changes and not much else, if we get anything at all.
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So you can't use root chalices at all without an internet connection. You lied to me, /bbg/.

With how god damn dull these things are, though, I dunno if I care. The same rooms and the same enemies over and over again, nothing to loot but supplies and ritual materials, and awesome and exciting bosses like that big pig but with more health, and BSB except the floor is poison, and UNDEAD GIANT. Wooooo.
Do these things ever get not completely shitty?
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>>121343260
Why would you ever do Hintertombs? Are you retarded?
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>>121343318

How else are you going to be an absolute madman?
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Post those hunters.
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>>121343318
Because I got the chalice for it. Why not? There's probably something worth getting there.
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who /canebrohype/ here?
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>>121343558
if true LHB is just an arcane LHB clone i am going to shit bricks
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>>121342067
IDEAS OF THE HIGHER PLANE
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>>121343558
I honestly just want a piece of head gear that doesn't look like shit. I want something classy and unobtrusive like the circlet from DeS.
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>>121343558
RAISE THE CANE
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Is there an estimate anywhere on how long the server maintenance will take?
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>>121343995
I think 3 hours
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>>121343995
5 minutes
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>about to get my uncanny meme blade
>server maintenance
thanks miyazaki
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>>121345030
I died a lot of times on that ladder during my first playthrough
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ded thred, ded game etc. I want to make a stake driver fire and use oil urns
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>>121345765
>I want to make a stake driver fire and use oil urns

"Do you like your steaks well done?"
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>>121345765
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>finished playing Disgaea 5 after like 100 hours
>want an item world in Bloodborne grinding for top tier weapons/armor
>tfw this will never happen

Haven't played the game in months, did they include anything nice on the patch?
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>>121345982
Fight HMPH on my BLT/SKL build was just a joy. High damage evelyn parries followed by big damage viscerals. Boomerang throwing aboriginal
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>>121345982
>>finished playing Disgaea 5
How does that hold up against the others?
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>>121345765
Fucking Arcane wizards
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>>121346429
Special powers

I really hope there's more than just the one eyeball hunter tool in the DLC. More lightning would be cool
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>>121346224
Characters in the game has brain problems as usual, but it's way better than 3 & 4, just about everything is better, story, gameplay etc. but not by a large margin.

They changed the character world to a board game like monopoly or some shit, which is a bit more fun, and they added item world to have more mystery rooms.

Post game stuff is about the same length as in previous games.
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Maintenance is done.
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>>121348013
Cheers family
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so help me kos if the next gem I get from pwmf isn't useful I'm going full grinch in a mask holding a gun on this motherfucker
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>>121350268
>farm pomf gems on SKL/BLT char
>get sweet fuck all
>passing through depth 5 FRC that happens to have watchers on 50 arc char
>27.2% phys, -kin down gems
It's so gay.
>the best physical gems are super rare
>can't get them easily except on builds that don't use them
>on ARC builds the gems you need are even rarer
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>>121350621
I don't know what it is with this character
temperings are the easiest to come across but the game is just fucking with me at this point
I've settled for 25.2's with a good curse before but I'm not even getting that

I'm up to my 6th run through watchers this morning 21st since reaching FRC isz last night and I've gotten two temperings, both with attack down

fucking save editor when
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fucking church doctor set when
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>>121351284

Church Doctors?

Like the Black and White Church sets?
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>>121351350

These niggas.

left-handed arcane lamp when
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>>121351350
>tfw no big hat
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>>121350268
>>121351041
>next two runs after this post
>radiant gem
>fool's gem
yeah nah fuck this
I'm actually fucking seething right now
literally never been so mad at this fucking game
subscribe
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>>121351482

Oh "Church Servants"

Yeah their gear is really nice, love the big wide brim hat as well, something that the game lacks to be honest family
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>>121348013
HOW'S MY WHEEL?
IS MY WHEEL OK?
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>>121352204
There was no patch.
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>>121352224
Cool I guess.
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>>121350621
Same shit happens to me. I'm sure it's intentional because this shit is ridiculous
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>Not using your pokeballs to finish off one of every type of enemy

You don't wanna be a pokemon master?
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>>121352981
Tried to it once when I invaded a guy. He killed me
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>>121352981
So is it intentional that the artwork for the pebble looks like an eyeball?
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>>121353621
The pebbles might actually be eyeballs anon
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>>121339348

I play with names on. The only weeb name I found (aside my own characters) was Kiritsugu, a BLT pistol build.

I do notice a lot of folklore and horror references though, like Mary Shelly or Bloody Mary.
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>>121342785

If shitposting was like this, not only would I not ignore them, but I would be one.
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>2 days until FC
>2 days to farm gems on newly made gimmick arc build that now has FRC access
>2 days to get practice in on a build I've never used outside of ExGlove spam on bosses
Shit is gonna be so cash until I start crying at all of my 1 shots for having 10 Vit on a BL98
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>>121356003

absolute madman
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>>121356003
>10 Vit on a BL98
G-good luck anon
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>>121356003
>two days to get blunt gems for my memeblade
shizzle
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>>121354162
I've met at least five Kiritos in BB alone, not to mention fucking DS2 where every second havelshitter had some sort of a weeb name from the most tasteless titles possible.
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FIGHT CLUB

I know it's in the OP as every Saturday now, but I feel like less attend if there is no notification.
Also, I need an image link to post elsewhere.

FIGHT CLUB

Bring The Best Of Your Worst Edition

FIGHT CLUB
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>>121356908
Are we having an intentionally shitty fightclub? Because that makes me want to use pure arcane burial blade and 50 blt cannon.
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>>121356003
you'd better blood bullet even if you have 570 max hp you scrub
be ready for my 620 AR meme spear too motherflipper
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>>121356609
>that webm
oh my fucking life
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>>121357072
lol idk senpai

>>121357453
>287 hp in FRC CD's
All my life, I have known only 1-shots.
Nothing has changed.
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>>121357072

Is it even worth levelling BLT to use a cannon? I'm myself STR but the cannon looks fun as fuck. The base damage mixed with some bone marrow ash seems high enough and the scaling looks crap
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>>121357072
>50 blt cannon
>800 motherfucking BLT AR so you can trade against anyone for a shot and eat half of their HP if not more
>shitty
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>>121356609
As a weeb, I never understood running into weebs in full Havel's. If you're going to be a shitter, be a shitter. If you're going to be a weeb, be a weeb.
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>>121357903
>shitter
>weeb
But that's synonyms, anon.
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So I've not had the game since launch, and the info I'm pulling from the internet is... not helpful. Can anyone tell me how glyphs work? I'm ready to grind/scum for some of the high-tier gems.

>You make a CD you want to farm
>You go to another gravestone and input a glyph you know has the (RNG)drop you want
>You... continue creating the same CD until you get what you want?

I'm missing something aren't I?
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>>121358037
I keep meaning to update this with the items you want exactly, but it's still useful.

There is a youtube link in the OP to tell you exactly how to get through them.

>I'm missing something aren't I?
Nope.
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>>121357709
No, just use it with base BLT
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>>121358037
Chalices are pretty easy to understand, you need to have the type of chalice from the glyph you're searching in your inventory, and you need to make one depth 5 frc to access frc depth 5 (and above) glyphs
Basically in order to access everything you need to clear all the story or nonrng chalices and make one root of ll, ihyl, or isz with all three rites
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>>121358623
REMINDER THAT IF YOU NEED MORE THAN 7 VIT YER BAD
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How do I beat blood starved beast
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>>121358859
Just quickstep brah
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>>121358883
Backstab him when he does the single swipe, parry his combos, follow him as he thrashes around and score free hits
Also don't stop when he stops, cuz the grab has bad tracking but a low windup
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>>121358907
Hard to do as many times as I need to, I only have 40 endurance.
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>>121358883
roll under his swipes
fuck his sides/back up
don't get greedy
use fire
ezpz
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>>121358859
needing it is not the same as wanting it
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>>121358771

That much I get. I've cleared all the non-root Pthumeru chalices and a few non-Hindertomb ones.

What I want it blood gems. I've just made a FRC Ihyll, and then replicated one in the OP. If I get to the watchers, kill them, and get a shit gem, what happens? Does the game remember I beat that boss, even if I remove the chalice and reenter the glyph, or is it reset to 0 and the only thing I've lost is time?
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>>121359147
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>>121359340
Words to live by.
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Can someone help me with the Defiled Watchdog?
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>>121359296
no
>get a shit gem
>remake dungeon
>kill watchers
>get a shit gem
repeat until you get non-shit gems
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>>121359009
>>121359081
Thx bb
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>>121359410
I disagree.

>>121359581
No, but try this.
The damage won't be as good, but leg-breaking is much much easier than attacking the face. Just be sure to time your dodges through his attacks late to not get hit.
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>>121359824
Bolt is his main weakness, right?
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>>121359824
>>121359824
>I disagree.
You ain't all bad.

Attacking his face is really easy both the right weapon though. I always use the Axe.
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>>121359686
I'll help you fight him if you want
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>>121359652

Cool, thanks.

Time to get really fucking familiar with the watchers I guess.
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>>121359937
Yes.
Also, I said no because I'm at work, not being a douche.

>>121360023
>axe
Nice extra serration damage, you dip.
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>>121360023
*with the right weapon though
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>>121360048
Good luck anon
And remember, the next gem will always be better
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>>121360106
>>Nice extra serration damage, you dip.
The range and move set make up for it, in my opinion. It lets you smack that bitch in the face from safety, then just BMA repeating Pistol him in the face.
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>>121358883
he was probably the hardest boss in the game for me, until I recently found out you could parry him
it helps
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>>121360340
It's fine if you want to give advice but to do it on something you literally L I T E R A L L Y have not done yourself is just an awful thing to do to people that don't know any better.
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Post beastmode speculation

>transform into hairy beast when meter is maxed
>transformation lasts until death
>locks in highest beasthood modifier reached until death

Would permanent 300+ beasthood be viable for pvp?
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>>121360461
Lol wut? BSB is literally "walk to the side" the boss.

I have fought the regular Watchdog plenty of times without being hit. I don't see why the strategy would not hold just because you have less HP, and he has more. Does the defiled version have additional moves or something?
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>>121360340
>It lets you smack that bitch in the face from safety
You don't need to do such things with the leg strategy. There is no danger as long as you know how to time your dodges, not to mention it's much faster.
My fastest Hotdog kill, from the first hit to prey slaughtered was right over 30 seconds.

>>121360569
Oh shit, you're right. lol

>>121360609
>when meter is maxed
Please no, I want it when tricked 24/7.
>locks in highest beasthood modifier until death
That's more OP than frenzy weapons.

I just want Claws to be gooder.
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>>121360803
You have to deal with the lingering hit boxes from the bites to get the legs.

Once you learn your spacing to bait the bites, the face strategy with the Axe never leaves you at right either.

My way is safer, but admittedly slower, unless you have high BLT.
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>>121361154
>You have to deal with the lingering hit boxes from the bites to get the legs.
I did tell you you have to just time your dodges. I never get hit in that fight unless I get greedy.

Maybe you should look into getting some _______gud_______?

Hell, I don't even get hit on Keeper and hardly ever on Amy anymore.
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>>121360778
>comparing depth 1 hotdog to defiled
If I end up making the thread again I'll use that pic someone made last thread
Not for amusement but because there's a large influx of newcomers lately and the last thing we need is someone flinging shit advice left and right
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>>121361529
Sounds like a plan, m80.
There's a lot of that lately.
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>>121361457
Yeah, that's fine and all, but those hit boxes on those aren't intuitive.

I don't get hit by the Keeper either, and I don't have to abuse parries or the BoM or the Stake Driver to do it.
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The Moonlight Greatsword is probably going to require 16 STR, and maybe 12 SKL since it's similar to Ludwig's
Hope your're ARC build is suited for that
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any co-op?
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All these souls from the Calices and fuckall to spend them on.

Really wish blood gems became available in the shop at some point. I'd pay 100,000 souls for a decent bold radial, because otherwise it's just going into rope molotovs or something.
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>>121361820
>but those hitboxes aren't intuitive
They shouldn't have to be, the timing is always the same. That is you literally saying 'I can't get used to it, I have a lack of dodge-timing ability'.

>abuse parries
I didn't realize game mechanics were ridiculed as such.
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>>121362292
They have been ridiculed as such since Gwyn. No one hates on the occasional parry, but parry abuse is majorly ridiculed.

When you can beat her without parries using just LHB without being hit once, then you will have my respect.
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>>121356003
>tfw I finally finished my old build I just re made from scratch and I will not be able to make it to this FC

You better bring your kekoo build to the next fight club as well, mate-o.
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>>121362150
You could help me with Defiled Hot Doggo
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>>121362567
>cu.ck filters to kek

Thanks Hiroshima.
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>>121362605
What dungeon are you in?
I probably don't have access to it
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>>121362249
>Really wish blood gems became available in the shop at some point.
Fuck, that'd be nice. Like, the requirement would be similar to purchasing versions you've found of weapons in CD's.

>kill FRC Amy
>Nourishing Radial drops
>+21.5% ATK / +flat-phys
>that specific gem is now available for purchase
That even still consists of a grind, so it should even make From happy.

>>121362549
>When you can beat her without parries using just LHB without being hit once, then you will have my respect.
>LHB
>earning respect
Don't care for yours anyway, but that blew your opinion out of the water.
I've done it before, anyway. Hell, I had to on other builds.

>>121362567
Don't you worry, friend-o.
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>>121362695
Does it really, or are you trying to kek me?
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>>121360162
First gem was 26.3%. Not terrible.
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>>121362783
Defiled Pthumeru
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>>121362695
It does not, stop being such a Kek
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/bbg/ PRE-DLC TOURNAMENT

>WHEN?
Starting Friday, November 20th at 7pm EST and continuing as needed the following days.

>WHERE?
To be determined, but probably a Non-FRC Isz one of us can make. If you would like, create an Isz CD and submit the glyph, to be listed, to [email protected] or ragincajunnugz on the PSN. Keep in mind: little or no enemies, a messenger bath, and open-closed glyph.

>RULES
Same as Fight Club, but a few changes:
- Host will be neutral and streaming, so no one needs to Blood Bullet
- All gems acceptable
- Best 2/3 (semi-finals will be best of 5, Finals will be best of 7)
- BL 120 cap (those who feel the need on a lower than 120, when facing a 120 as your opponent, may savescum, level up, and then fight)
- There will be no complaints of lag. If you believe lag is the cause of your loss, take it like a man.
- After a character has been selected to participate, there will be no changing once the Tournament has started.
- Rules subject to change, stay updated.

>SIGN UPS
Message ragincajunnugz on the PSN or email [email protected] with your Character name and Blood Level.

Last date for sign-up is Thursday, November 19th.

Voting:
Healing - http://strawpoll.me/5849318
Restrictions - http://strawpoll.me/5849344
Type of Tourny - http://strawpoll.me/5849411

Last Tournament: https://youtu.be/GepsJFnlLqw [Embed] [Embed]

I may have forgotten something and I am open to suggestions, so either reply to this post or the above PSN/Email with ideas or information.
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>>121362902
Yeah, I never got the bastard of loran. sorry f4m
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>>121362993
>>121362695
kek
You keks sure are silly.
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>>121362818
LHB is the weapon that most people will be using. That makes a strategy involving it the most useful to people. She is also set up to punish long slow combos so getting a perfect on her using it also makes it that much more impressive that abusing parries or the BoM.

I can perfect her using LHB without ever firing a shot 99.99% of the time using an intuitive strategy that anyone should be able to emulate.
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>>121363168
But you've never done Defiled, so it doesn't matter.
That's a lot more HP Keeper has while you're at 50% on top of the fact you don't know what you're talking about.
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>>121363168
>intuitive
You're using that stupidly again.
Got some webms?
Youtube links to your vids?
Some saved copypasta of yours, even?
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>>121362902
You still there guy? I might be able to help
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>>121363742
I am, and yes please
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>>121343463
actually there isnt
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>>121363915
Okay let me boot up my ps4. Give me the glyph so I can make my way there
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>>121363742
>>121363915
I've set password to bbg
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>>121364003
Glyph is qv9ehzmn
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>mgs actually confirmed
>it's ludwigs

HAHAHAHA

HOLY FUCK

FUCK YOU NIGGERS
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>>121364127
Is it set to public? I can't find it
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>>121364508
It should be? Try again. And are you using the password bbg?
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>>121343394
First strength build. Pretty excited about the Kirk.
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>>121363029

Can't wait to get my ass kicked, again.

>mfw Benjieboi's constant shilling skyrocketed my comatose channel to almost 1000 views and still 5 subscribers

Thanks goy, now it is only a matter of time before I sign up for a Patreon account.
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>>121343394
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>>121365040
find and soak me in already
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>>121364636
I'm on the second floor now, sorry it took a while because the keeper went to the cosmos the first time I fought him, ringing
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is the tonitrus shit?
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was the server maintenence anything to be concerned about? I didn't see a patch or anything
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>>121364636
You there man? I'm ringing already
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>>121364859
Hit me back with an upboat, mi familia.
https://www.reddit
dot
com/r/bloodborne/comments/3rmq2o/its_that_time_again_fight_club_this_saturday/


leddit fags sure do hate fun in the morning

>>121365424
I could tell you if we ever get around to farming the rest of the gems and testing.
So far it seems best as str>arc with nourishing in all 3 slots.

The AR, while we know it doesn't matter and is some kind of glitch at full health, is 897 with two 17% nourishings, a 21.5%, and 50str/10arc.
No buff is about 590, buffed at less than full health is high 700's, like 780 I think it was.

It's very good, but the moveset is extremely limited, literally 3 different attacks. Poke, R1 swing, R2 swing with nearly the same animation and arc.

>>121365436
Apparently not.
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>>121363029
>rosmarinus finishers 2nd on the Poll

That's hilarious.
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>>121365424
>>121365729
100% blunt/arcane damage, btw.

>>121365750
These polls are stupid as fuck, to be honest.
You can vote several times just by using different devices, wifi, and whatnot.
Hell, if there's no captcha, you can have bots spam the shit out of it.

>30+ votes
>13 or so signed up
It pisses me off.
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>>121364636
Still ringing
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>>121363029
Fuck, forgot to add in the winner gets a code for TOH.
Dunno if I can buy a 2nd code or if a 20$ PSN card would be enough.
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>>121364508
>>121364636
>>121366010
Take your Oath Runes off, silly boys.
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http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/11/05/bloodborne-patch-details-new-screenshot-from-the-old-hunters/

>The League is a band of Hunters who have taken an oath and are bound by a single purpose. By aligning yourself to The League, led by a mysterious figure in a constable’s garb and bucket helmet, you can assist other players online in the game and compete in The League’s online rankings leaderboard. In addition to The League, players will also be able to use The League cane and summon co-op NPCs within the game, perfect for tackling challenging areas and bosses.
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>>121366078
That's mighty generous of you Benjie. Might sign up for the tournament tomorrow. and rev up those torrents seed for dbz teleportations
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>>121366203
Not wearing one
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>>121366219
Sounds like a pretty boring covenant desu.
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>>121366219
FREE CONTENT

>>121366425
It's literally sunbros. Just with a cane
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>>121366310
>Might sign up for the tournament tomorrow.
>20 new
>40 new
>1v1 doubles as highest vote
>tourny lasts a week past TOH release date
>no one in /bbg/ has purchased it out of anticipation of receiving it for free
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>>121364636
A-anon
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>>121366078
Oh, I might join now and fight you all with my 2.5MB connection
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>>121365729

He Who Posts With Zebras was right: you ARE a whore which only makes it easier to love you, bae. Consider your boat upped.

>>121365296

Is that a sinister bell in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?

I mean, are you in 6cb right now? I could go for a few fights.
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>>121366425
>>121366505
>desu

I honestly don't remember typing that. I know I typed desu, but whatever. A sunbro-esque covenant seem really unrewarding, though. I hope it increases the chances of gank invasions for Vilebloods and HoHs. That would be really nice.

>>121366596
I'm not really expecting a win because I'm un-versatile as hell. Not to mention that the code will be wasted on me because my game is not a US region version.

>>121366820
I actually play with 5mbps dl/1mbps up and have not heard any complaints. I've also seen a webm of me against someone and I wasn't projecting phantom ranges like crazy. You're fine, senpai. Unless your senpai plays candy crush or something, then prepare for a fight of lag.
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>>121366219
Cool, the League is free content. Also the oath leader looks like a wierd guy. Wonder what memes will he unleash.
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>>121367016
>I honestly don't remember typing that. I know I typed desu,
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>>121367103
Seems that 4chan is censoring Facebook lingo. To Be Honest is desu and F A M is senpai, apparently. At first I thought it was the alcohol, luckily I caught on not so quick.
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>>121366219
>he literally wears a bucket
>A fucking bucket
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>>121367354
Yeah, I thought that set belonged to some Ned Kelly-type outlaw character, but from the looks of it, this guy is just some fucked up champion of justice with a fucking bucket on his head, like one of those wannabe superheroes with shitty homemade costumes.
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>>121367674
Might be a jab at the retarded 'praise the sun!!1!" babbies. I dunno, but the thought of a developer hating his playerbase is pretty funny.
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>>121366425
>>121367016
>>121367103
bruh
i'm dyin' bruh
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>>121367354
>>121367674
He's probably a nod to Solaire. Solaire wore a bucket helm, this guy literally wears a bucket. Wonder if he'll be voiced by the same guy as Solaire (who already voiced Alfred in this game).
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>open an FRC Isz an anon posted two threads ago
>make it to layer three
>decide to go into the pre-layer bonus room
>it's a hallway with a pthumerian, and at the end of it a door that leads to a large room with various staircases and a saw spear hunter
>kill the hunter, loot the chest near her
>pearl slug x9
>neat.jpg
>walk through corridor behind chest
>get fucked up by the other hunter
>go back, kill pthumerian and first hunter
>chest is still glowing
>could have sworn I already looted it, so I try again
>four loran babbies
>get fucked up by the same hunter
>go back
>chest is STILL glowing
>pearl slug x9
>still glowing
>pearl slug x9
>tomb mold x6

What the fuck is going on? I defeated the other hunter just now, but should I let myself get killed again? I wonder if it's some sort of glitch.
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>>121368074
A fucking bucket with holes. I like him already
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>>121368242

Welp, just tried it again. The chest is empty now. So much for that.
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>>121343558
I'm pretty sure that says moonlight greatsword.
Well, it was conspicuously missing in the base game, but it's been several different things throughout fromsoft's catalog, I expected a hunter tool and not a trick weapon, but I'll take it.
what the hell does untricking a moonlight do?
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>>121365729
>>121365960
thanks f4m I like it but i have 25str 30arc
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>>121369032
Arcane Getsuga tenshou
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This is the best fucking MLGS design since KF games.
Bonus points for being actually made from moonlight energy.
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>>121369032
Yes, it's pretty much confirmed. The first kanji character near the screenshot is "Moon". The rest, I have no idea. I'm just sure that that greatsword is moon related.
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>>121369309
From the looks of it, it might be a normal greatsword which L1 is an arcane buff. Much like tonitrus. Now I hope to god this one doesn't break in half a second.
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>>121369329
月光の聖剣
Gekko no Seiken.
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>>121369419
seems like it, 1h mode is a longsword while 2h looks to be an magical greatsword
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>>121369419
It doesn't seem like a simple buff. Most likely it gives sword a completely new moveset.
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>>121369329
>>121369527
We already know the official English name: Holy Moonlight Sword. See article>>121366219
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>>121369197
np monica
Maybe grab +bolt%/+flat-bolt abyssals or Nourishing abyssals and try them out?
If you don't care about level caps, or are going to 120, Tonitrus may be stronger than Wheel.
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>>121370032
Moonlight Political Power sounds better imo
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>>121369419
in souls games, its been able to shoot a sword beam.
I don't think it does that in armored core or king's field though, so who knows if it will here.
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>>121369813
>l1 to give it a new moveset
you mean transform it?
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Why level ARC at all for a wheel build?
Thing has no scaling and you'll be putting flat ARC on it anyway
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>>121371932
>in souls games, its been able to shoot a sword beam
It didn't shoot beams in Demon's Souls.
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>>121372160
Blunt gem wheel will fuck more people up compared to ARC wheel.
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>>121372125
I can imagine that transformed it's the moonlight we expect.
I just can't wrap my head around what untricked mode would even be. just a regular longsword like kirk and ludwig?
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>>121372667
Really highly doubt that. Its only decent moves untransformed are the r2 variants
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>>121356908

This just occurred to me: would blood rapture runes be acceptable in FCs? Not like anyone would be dumb enough to waste a rune slot for one of those, it's just out of curiosity.
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>>121372793
Guys, it's just gonna be an arcane tonitrus with a more pronounced change in moveset. It'll deal ARC damage in both forms and you'll trick it to "load" a projectile into it. Certain moves will fire the projectile and others will keep it loaded. Make sense?

>>121373912
They've never been against the rules and I heard of 2-3 players who use them.
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>>121374090
I really hope it's not that.
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>>121373803
the r1's are pretty good if you ask me. ESPECIALLY the charge attack. I've laid a few of you guys out with the wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEaS-TdwPkE&ab_channel=PhantomCooper

take a look
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>>121374090
Eh, I would sort of believe it if it weren't for the fact it's still a regular sword, ludwig has it on his back wrapped in cloth
It seems a lot more likely that it's the chikage of arc builds, untricked being the one handed longsword with maybe a different moveset than kirk and LHB, and tricking it turns it into it's Arc scaling form that gets ridiculous good damage if invested in arc like with chikage and bloodtinge
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>>121369419
I'm keeping my fingers crossed it plays less like Tonitrus and more like the Burned Ivory King sword from DaS2. Regular great sword moveset and then TRICKED MODE BUSTS OUT LASER SHOWS DAWG

A little disappointed we haven't seen more bloodtinge weapons. If the only new shit the DLC adds is a katana reskin I'll be irritated.
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>>121374309
>t it's still a regular sword, ludwig has it on his back wrapped in cloth
We never see it unsheathed by ludwig though. It might be arcane while it's strapped to him too.
>It seems a lot more likely that it's the chikage of arc builds
Sounds boring. That means space wizards will be limited to only part of the moveset much how BLTfags can only bloodmode. That's a low quality design if you ask me.
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>>121372160
>>121372667
You're both wrong, the answer is literally the opposite.
While I love my Str build Wheel, the Arc Wheel does more.

>Why level ARC at all for a wheel build?
>Thing has no scaling and you'll be putting flat ARC on it anyway
If you look at the Wheel build comparison in the OP, it's a big difference.
>phys build, arc gems
Non-trick Dash R1 - 271
Trick Dash R1 - 427

>arc build, arc gems
Non-trick Dash R1 - 317
Trick Dash R1 - 754

>>121373912
>no healing other than rally/regain
Someone asked this before and I told them I doubt anyone would even notice, but he'd be stupid to not just use clawmark if he wants his parry to matter.
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>>121374525
The chikage is the same low quality design, don't doubt that they won't do it again
I'm hoping it turns out to be great and still have arc scaling in it's untricked form but not shit like the tonitrus where the transformation is just a buff that does nothing to the moveset
Chikage style seems more likely, LHB is modeled after ludwigs sword and it starts as a longsword that turns into a greatsword, just without the magic
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Did anyone end up doing that yellow backbone glyph I posted a while back? I remember one anon said they would but I wanted to hear if it turned out useful.
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>>121372160
>>121372667
>>121374731
Also, it's probably worth it to mention
>phys build, phys gems
Tricked R1 dash - 430
>phys build, arc gems
Tricked R1 dash - 427

This is because of the math involved when tricking your Wheel and converting the damage, the Strength scaling tranfers, and, while not as strong as an Arc build Wheel, you can see the outcome.

I like doing this as a Str build since my damage feels nearly the same, tricked or not, but allows for both movesets.
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>>121374748
>does nothing to the moveset
Launching projectiles is a lot more fun than only being limited to a buff. It would be a ton of fun to "charge" up the sword and then make the enemy play in fear of the arcane nuke you've loaded up. Imagine the combo possibilities
>R1 slice
>L1 Transform attack
>Tricked R2 + Followup projectile Tricked mode has heavier arcane properties. much like Tonitrus

It's a greatsword. The moveset can't be that exciting. There's gonna be some overheads and horizontal chops. Maybe a thrust or a spin attack if we're lucky. I think the best idea would be to make the projectile gimmick interesting or a trade off somehow. If they set it up like I suggested, I don't think we'd even need to tie it to a QSB cost because the other requirements surrounding it would be reasonably fair.
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>Hunter's tool that can repair weapons at the cost of QSB

y/n

Fucking hate that there is no repair powder in this game
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>>121375518

Meh, it would make "durability down" gems acceptable.
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>>121374891

I completed two of your dungeons: the Ihyll one and the Isz one.

Ihyll one had ENORMOUS layers and some red jellies on the second layer along with tons of backbones throughout the dungeon itself. There were also two undead giants on the second layer that dropped really good Adept gems. It was a really fun dungeon aside from the boss of the final layer, Bloodletting Beast. I hate fighting that fucker.

Anyway, the Isz one was interesting. Didn't really get any good bloodgems or anything, but there was a chest on the second layer bonus room that contained:

>18 pearl slugs
>4 bastards of loran
>6 tomb mold (5)

I think that chest is glitched-- I've never looted one with so many materials inside. I'll probably re-do the dungeon again and see if that chest still gives me the same results.
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I Killed Gascoigne and am kinda fucking around in the cathedral district. How soon can I get the holy sword or stake driver? Since I want to try them out.
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>>121378294
>Stake Driver
You can get to it from your location in the game but you'll need to kill a NPC for it. Head on down to Old Yharnam.

>LHB
You need to beat Old Yharnam and head on back to the Cathedral Ward lantern and check the door that was previously closed. You'll know where to go after that.
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>>121378294
Proceed forward to an area called old Yharnam. There'll you'll meet some colorful folks. Kill them all, and you'll get the stake driver. And Ludwigs sword is some way after that area.
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>>121378864
>>121378930

I don't want to kill the old nigger, so I guess I gotta avoid old yharnam for now, right? Do I just gun for Amelia and I can move on from there without upsetting the old fogey?
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>>121377114
Hmmm were those the screenshot ones? Must be, I didn't put down an isz haha but I posted a screenshot of another anons dungeons. Glad they turned out for you!
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Who wants to help me kill Rom the Vacuous cunt?

Pass: vgbb115
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>>121379019
>so I guess I gotta avoid old yharnam for now, right?
If you got 10k echoes sure, otherwise go to OY but dont kill the guy and avoid the tower
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>>121379215
I bought the emblem, yeah.
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>>121366219
Not sure about the helmet, but that constable uniform is killer.
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>>121379019
>sparing the beastfucker
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>>121379161
I do! I do!


Oh, but I'm not home.
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>Start a second character to try SKL/BLT shotgun rapier goodness
>Farming echos on Cleric Beast
>Summoned by beckoner "Viola"
>Father Gascoigne is an NPC summon
>Wasn't aware this could be done
>Beckoner dies
>Gascoigne stands there and lets Cleric Beast just whale on him
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>>121380096
Please tell me they were wearing either the doll's clothing or the dress.
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>>121366219
I unironically love his dumb helmet and I want to wear it
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>>121380096
>second chance to save her
>mfw viola died on purpose to keep in-cannon
>reminder there is nothing you can do, no matter how hard you try
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>>121366219
>new cane
eh?

looks the same
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>>121369309
>another STR/ARC weapon
pls no
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>>121369309
woooooooooooooooooooooooow

in a game which lacks weapon variety
we totally need a LHB clone
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>>121369032
>I'm pretty sure that says moonlight greatsword
It does.
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>>121381780
>it's basically the same moveset
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>>121381780
>wooooooooooooooooooow
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>>121381383
Don't know what's the deal with it. The Famitsu article said that the new cane is basically the League's register. But from the pictures you can apparently use it as weapon too.
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>>121353621
No, but it is intentional that it looks like the Death Star.
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>>121384224
I wouldn't say as a weapon
It said that league members can identify each other by showing the cane, and the getting summoned animation is changed to show the cane upon getting summoned
My guess is it'll be the same as dark souls when you enter sunbros, you get your unique summon animation as well as a gesture that shows it off
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>>121384527
Ah, so it appears just as part of a gesture. That makes sense.
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>>121375518
y y y
Should do a little more though
Like grant a temporary small AR buff or something
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>>121375782
this. durability down gems are nearly useless outside of pvp
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>>121379309
You need to defeat the boss in old yharnam in order to get passed the locked door in front of the cathedral ward lamp post. If you ignore old yharnam you wont be able to get the steak driver or the holy blade
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>>121384950
What the fuck that rifle is supposed to be? It looks more like a spear or a fucking crutch.
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>>121385740
How do I go through old yharnam without making the old hunter butthurt?
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>>121386303
you can't
it doesn't matter

anyone that tells you otherwise is a retard
you can literally ATTEMPT TO KILL HIM and still befriend him later
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>>121379110

Oh, you must be a different person then. My bad.
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>>121386303
Unfortunately, if you want the Stake Driver without killing the Zoophile, you will not be able to:
- Get the LHB for ages
- Get to Cathedral Ward without spending 10,000 souls on a key
- Access an area before drastic changes ensue

If you're still OK with that, then just play the game until you find a SIGNIFICANT change in the game. In the new area, make sure to explore EVERYTHING, and you'll find a path to an optional boss, called Paarl. Once you encounter him, you can go back to Old Yharnam and Beastboy won't be hostile, and you can go talk to him.
ENSURE THAT YOU DO NOT CLIMB HIS TOWER BEFORE ENCOUNTERING PAARL IF YOU WANT TO BEFRIEND HIM. He will be hostile for the rest of the game.
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>>121386789
The fuck are you on about? Literally everything you said is wrong
Refer to >>121386441
You can go up his ladder and try to kill the faggot and still befriend him after coming across paarl
My personal run through every game is Old yharnam, kill BSB, ascend oedon chapel for badges and then go down to open cathedral ward, get bagged into hypogean goal to save nun and kill paarl, then befriend djura for his gesture by going up from paarl
All before killing Amelia

Again, you can literally go up and slap djuras tits around and come back later from paarls lamp after killing it and he'll be friendly, this was confirmed a while back by a guy in the thread who had hit djura previously
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>>121387242
you don't even need to kill paarl
just visit him (and then visit dujura from bsb's lamp using the ladder shortcut and killing no enemies)
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>>121381780
It looks smaller than LHB and will probably have faster moveset.
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>>121386441
no you fucking can't? if he see's you, he will recognize you a second time
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How the fuck are you supposed to kill the bloody crow of cainhurst? Holy fucking shit I heard he was hard, but I didn't expect him to be THIS hard. FUck
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>>121387496
you're a retard
i've done in multiple times
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>>121387574
he has patterns, dont underestimate him
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>>121387574
Cheese him, he's cheesing you
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>>121387574
He'll only heal once unless you give him shitloads of time. He'll shoot after he dashes, so watch the fuck out.

Just parry him and visceral him to death. Lure him down the stairs and use poison knives when he's slow walking back up, 3 should trigger the poison. You can do it, anon.
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would anyone like to take a stroll through the mensis?
bbg69
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>>121389993
guys, pls
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hmmmm
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>>121391770
source plssss
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>>121391770
So the pizza sawcutter and knucke slabs are the str weapons I assume. Hammer too?
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>>121391770
>no google results
Where'd you get that?

Top left is the moonlight sword, so it obviously turns into a greatsword
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>>121391770
I just cancelled my preorder of this image, looks underwhelming, too many reskins.
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>>121392193
Hammer is probably STR/ARC.
Pizza has high ARC scaling, but no arc damage.
The knuckle is an offhand parry puncher.
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>>121391770
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>>121392612
That looks nothing like the Chikage.
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>>121391770
Bloodtinge builds are suffering
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>>121392587
>literally one "reskin"
>not even showing all the weapons
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>>121389993
>>121391106
Still there?
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>>121389993
Mensis is a shit area, why would anyone play it?

FUCK the spider room. Fuck the Student Hunter, Fuck Micolash and Fuck you.
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>>121392768
also where was this seen in any DLC footage?
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>>121392853
I'm in a CD now, but I want warp back in a sec
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>>121393128
Ok, level? First lamp?
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>>121393316
100 and yeah
bbg69
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>>121392612
It's the non transformed weapon of the moonlight greatsword is what it seems to be.
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>>121391770

>that burial cleaver

Dick status: MUH
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>>121393670
thats the one on the left dude
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>>121393670
That is NOT the Moonlight Sword.
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>>121393670
nah different guard, MLGS seems to be the one in the far laft
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>>121391770
Post the twitter where you are getting these my family member
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>>121393316
you there?
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>>121394292
Yes
You have HoH rune on?
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>>121394395
i had radiance, but i took it off
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>BL150 Quality
>BL98 Flat Arc Wheel
>BL110 BT/skl build

Should I try for a 43 vit gouge cruel fate and use the character for NG DLC bowblade?

Anyone starting the dlc in NG+ or starting fresh?
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>>121395247
I'll be starting it on NG+6 on my main character. My other characters that have actual builds are all in NG or NG+
Wont take long to make a skill twink so might as well
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>400 AR on claws
>decide to use them outside of PvP for once
>L2 multiple enemies into oblivion at once
>ar over 1,000
Truly what it must mean to rip and tear.
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>>121396523

I can't wait to see what the expansion does with them.
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>>121395247
starting fresh, already got 3 builds ready for it. Though I am going to play my overleveled story quality build to try out all the DLC weapons first though
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>>121392587
No you didn't
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What would be the best Saw Spear for 20/20 SKL/STR + 50 Arc?
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>>121398513
Whats the 20/20 for?
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>>121398513

If you're going to make an elemental Saw Spear then there is no need to invest in STR or SKL.
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I just want to play Bloodborne but I can't sign into PSN. Is everyone else on?
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>>121391770
>>121392612
>>121393890
The one who posted this can fuck off, that's just from the video of some fucker on leddit. It's not an official picture.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCJ_R6eVAuM

Also, this fucker took all info from Fextralife and even says that Yamamura has a new katana weapon, when it was clearly said in the TGS streams that he has a Chikage.
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>>121399503
see what happens when we post things from reddit? >>121391770
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>>121399414
Yeah
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>>121399503
>guy posts picture of Chikage concept art
>it must be a unique weapon
How shit this guy can be ? Also, he missed the new rifle that the new NPC hunter has.
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>>121400086
What the shit. I can connect to the internet, but not PSN. PS4 just stays on "Sign into PlayStation(tm) Network" with that spinning Please Wait circle.
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>>121399414
YOU JINXED IT
I NEED GEMS AND WAS JUST CO-OPING AND YOU FUCKING BLEW IT

Oh, now I'm online.
Huh

Go to main menu and try again.
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>>121399503
>maybe you're unable to upgrade Beast Cleaver
>in the TGS stream it was upgraded to +8
This guy.
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>>121400287
I get the same error as this dude on reddit. I can connect to the internet, it just won't sign me in to PSN.
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>>121392159
>>121392210
>>121394070
See>>121399503
Just a shit, apparently.
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what kind of damage output can I expect from elemetal% + elemental flat gems on an arcane cane build versus 27.2% phys cane on a skill build?

will physical damage always be superior?
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>>121401173

I'm pretty sure physical is always superior, but elemental weapons have the advantage of being able to easily take advantage of enemy weaknesses.
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>>121401276
I assumed you may be able to outdamage phys by the sheer AR of a low base damage weapon + flat gems but you're probably right.

I just can't decide between an arcane cane with flamesprayer or phys cane with rifle spear.

The utility of arcane seems nice, but the gem farming for it seems a lot more difficult, tedious and lengthy.
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>>121401594

It's not that bad, but it does take long.

Luckily, Isz and Loran are a lot less boring than Ihyll, so you have that going for you at least. Oh, and arcane tools, too, so it's not all about the weapons.

Also, I would consider a fire TC to take advantage of the whip mode's serrated damage bonus.
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>>121402014
I assume lost is the best for most weapons you want to be elemental because the less radials the better?
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Help with Father skill check anyone?

At his fog gate password is bbg99
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>>121402494

Precisely.

Pure arcane is a different story, though. You'll want a radial-radial-triangle weapon for that because arcane wanings are difficult to come by in my experience. Radials and Triangles are much easier to get.
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>>121403224
I'll be right there if you still need help.
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>>121403567
I was talking about pure arcane save for the initial weapon requirements. It seems like waning is really good for bolt damage?

If you can farm layer 3s, you can get bolt +22.5% + second random effect being doubled, right? But you think arc/fire damage is better with rad/rad/tri, then?
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>>121403876
Yeah please I'll ringing now
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>>121398704
>>121398749
Going 30/30 eventually when I get around to it. Would I be better just going flat phys with that or would arcane/fire/bolt gems be worth it even though it's a semi quality build with arcane on top?
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>>121404224
I'm waiting for you. Waiting in front of the gate now.
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>>121403908

Yeah, bolt works best with a waning slot. Fire can work with waning, too, but I think it works best with more radials.

>>121404365

I don't really understand why you'd do a quality/arc hybrid when they don't really go well together in the first place.
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>>121404523
alright

I probably will go rad/rad/tri fire cane for the bonus damage with kin down then. And then I'll do another weapon as lost with bolt damage and beast down.

That really sounds like the best way to go about it. Thanks. Are there any weapons that specifically have two waning slots that aren't already split damage?
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>>121404224
Did you complete the fight anon? My PSN is too slow to message you directly. If not, I'll ring again when you want me to.
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>>121404812

Well, there's no such thing as a waning-waning weapon-- you can only have one waning slot. Anyway, I can't really name any weapons with natural waning slots of the top of my head aside from the Burial Blade, but that one's useless on an ARC build.

Oh, and I suggest farming the hotdog for fire radials. It drops the best ones. Loran Camerabeast drops the best bolt abyssals and I think you can get radial bolts from the saw spear hunters. Make sure to bring eye runes, they're very stingy with their drops and, not only that, but they also drop three other kinds of radials (Tempering, Fire and Arcane.) so that adds to the farming.
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>>121404523
so I can fuck around with the majority of the new DLC weapons while having decent arc to play with pretty much.
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>>121405183
Yeah finished it thanks anon
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>>121405630
No problem anon, if you need some more help, let me know.
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Holy shit the L2's on the Burial Blade have hyper armour? Sheeeeit why didn't I use these more often.
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>>121407653

L2's are beautiful on the Burial Blade. They are the bane of Amygdala and Ebrietas.
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>>121405270
Fyi abhorrent gems are better than camera beast if you get the secondary flat bolt
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Guys, I haven't played in months and the only trophy I'm missing for the plat is to kill Queen Yharnam.

Instead of picking up and playing on one of my characters, I wanna start a new one.

What's fun nowadays, anons? PvE only though because Bloodborne PvP is awful and completely inferior to Souls.
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>>121410558
you have shit taste and are a faggot but spelunking depth 5 frcs is fun
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>tfw missing one trophy for plat, done killing Yarnham, etc

"What the fuck, what is it then?"

>Iook at the missing one, it says it's seemingly one of the game endings

>It's rarer than the other endings

>"wait that doesn't make sense, I'm pretty fucking sure I killed moon presence"

>Look again

What the fuck? The plain ass "fight Gerhman" ending is the rarest of the three? I can't believe I never even got that ending. Come to think of it, I fight Moon Presence every single time, and did the suicide once for the trophy.

Can't honestly believe that. How is that what I would've assumed is the most common ending, is the least attained of the three?
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desu senpai i'm excited for the new clothing and the bow
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My PvE character (ng+2 so far) is at 50/40/50/50/7/6

What stats do I build from here? What will be more beneficial, the tiny HP/STR/Skill increases or the Bloodtinge/Arcane considering I obviously don't use those yet?
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>>121411137
internet reveals the true ending and it's super easy to get all the cords if you know where to look
The acceptance of gehrman's offer is also more thematic and more of the normalfag choice if they don't know anything about the game.
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>>121385995
Harpoon gun.

Rumour has it, that it's classed as a weapon AND a gun. It has 3 gem slots and it's own moveset.

Every one will be maining this offhand come DLC release.
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>>121411276

Yeah, BLT or Arc. Get some ranged damage in that business.
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>>121411473
Any worthwhile spells in ARC? Gonna be a long road the level cost has gotten extreme, hopefully there is something useful at the low levels.

Also whats the point of BLT, just specific weapon requirements? Do people actually rely on the damage, because I'd imagine it must scale pretty high with the stat for it.
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>>121411698

High BLT gets you a powerful Evelyn, Repeater, Blunderbuss and Cannon given that you have 30 str. At 50 you do get a non-laughable amount of damage out of it, with ash it's even better, and it can come in handy for bosses like Amy or Bribri where you can use a ranged option to peck away at them or finish them off.
>>
I wonder if they're going to add that "black mist" buff item seen in the bloodborne trailers pre release.

There was like a rendered animation of the hunter applying a black smokey buff with like crow feathers and shit flying around to a saw cleaver.
>>
Hammer or axe, which is better for wrecking shit in general?
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>>121412040
Thats interesting, going to level up ARC for now but I kinda want to make a Bloodtinge alt for fun.
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>>121405270
Ludwig's Holy Blade has a natural waning slot, along with high base damage and extremely high arcane scaling.

Radial gems are technically the worst at elemental damage, so a lost weapon would be better since they only have one radial slot.
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Pthumerian pronunciation

"THU-merry-an"
or
"TOO-merry-en"
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>>121411452
Problem with those rumors is they come from literally nowhere, so be careful what you believe.
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>>121412530
Kirkhammer is complete piss.

I've made 2 STR builds. I just can't deal with it.

I've tried 3 +32.7% Blunt bloodgems too, no dice.

It's sweetspot shit is retarded. The weapon does way less damage than it's rated at, and for it's speed, it's useless. Ludwigs outclasses it in every way on the same STR build, in both damage AND speed, ontop of that, reach.

Wheel with +32% Blunt Gems is objectively a better hammer than it.

The only good move on the kirkhammer that does actual damage is the fully charged r2. Good luck ever getting it off though, as it has shit hyper armour.
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>>121412957
the former.
someone post that vocaroo with Aussie McSexVoice going through it.
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>>121412957

I go with the second since that's similar to how I've heard you're supposed to pronounce Cthulu, Ka-too-loo.

I dunno though.
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>>121412957
It's "FF'THU-MER-YEN"
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>>121411698
Depends on how much arc we're talking, since they don't start to softcap until way over 50.

At only 50, executioner's glove will be your best source of damage. At 70+, ACB and Tiny T begin to do damage worth their bullet cost. At 99, your ACB is doing 3,000 per cast against bosses that fucking resist it.
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>>121413062

It doesn't have a sweetspot, it just produces damaging AOEs on impact that sometimes deal damage even when the main head missed.

Which just goes to show how hard it is to really land a hit with it in PvP. It only has the three sweeping attacks, the first L2, the R2 followup, and the running R2, and it's just not enough. Compare it to the axe, where the first two L2s and the first and last R1s are sweeps, and then the charged R2 is a double sweep. Or LHB, where your first two R1s are sweeps. Much more accessible.

I'm sure someone has webms of themselves wrecking shit with it, but I've similarly found it unreliable at best in PvP and greatly prefer other strength weapons. I hope the buzzsaw is better.
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>>121413632
If they'd just buff the AOE damage by like 100, even then it'd still not be "awesome, but it might be enough.

Having a weapon rated at 800AR but averaging most of the time for like 500 a hit just feels ass.

Meanwhile, my blunt gem'd one handed wheel does 1k+ per jumping attack, like 800 an R1 and hits nice and reliably, seems to have better hyper armour too.


Looking forward to the new flaming warhammer myself. Such a bullshit move that Fire was a damage type in bloodborne, yet no weapon natively had it. Glad they're correcting that.
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I found some baby ropes and ate them, now I'm in a pickle. Care to lend a helping hand?
BL100
bbg69
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>>121412530
Hammer for days.

>>121413062
Why the Lucy-tier misinformation?
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>>121415798
>tricked hammer, tricked LHB, and wheel are all blunt damage
>claiming hammer does 500 per hit but wheel does 1,000

You're doing something terribly wrong with your math, mate. Or your gems, at least.
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>>121415837
>Literally a gigantic monster with so many limbs it's impossible not to hit it somewhere

Amygdala is a squishy as fuck enemy, everyone knows this.

Holy blade still does way more damage than that webm btw.


The problem is kirkhammer for anything not a gigantic slug monster to hit. Hyper armour, damage in general and tracking aren't there. Blunt already seems to be the low teir damage type in bloodborne, hammer is just insult to injury.
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>>121416139
I tested again just yesterday. Wheel and Hammer, +10, same gems. Wheel jumping attack with blunt gems outperformed any kirkhammer attack with the same gems.

I even spaced what I thought was correctly on an enemy, struck and laughed when the number 200 popped up.

It's only good attack is it's charged R2, and then I guess it's L2 after that. The rest of it is trash, and anyway, If all I'm doing is charge attacks, i'll whip out my striking super charge fist blade for that.
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Important question, /bbc/

When making a female character should I:

Max out chest scaling

or

Keep the scale at 0.
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>>121416425
200 for a jump attack? Yes, you're doing something horrendously wrong, that number should be closer to over 1,000.

It's okay if you don't like the hammer matey, there's 15 different weapons in this game for a reason. Hell, my own favorite is without a doubt the worst in the game, but I love it for its moveset and weird gimmick.

Wheel's a good girl, treat her well.
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>>121413632
>It doesn't have a sweetspot
Man, no.
If you're hitting things with the transformed r1 and aren't right up in their nuts, you're doing 50% damage.
The effective range of the thing is balls.
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>>121416176
>LHB is so much better
>blunt is shit
Oh I see, you're trolling. lol
gud 1 m8

For anyone reading this that isn't a full-blown retard, they're both blunt. LHB is better, but you need about 50str/50skl for this to happen.
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>>121416631
Pretty sure it only makes it look like they've got wider shoulders
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>>121416631
Neither
Decrease the chest, increase the legs, increase the abdomen slightly for hips that show through yharnum hunter gear
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>>121417252
It increases their bust size, but she appeared to be fat.
>>121417410
I just made her flat chested, is the difference that noticeable?
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>BL100 helping people via SRC
>99% of the time it's people struggling against watchdog or amygdala
>they always die in third phase

god damn it
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'ello 'ello 'ello, what's all this then?
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>>121411137

Same deal with me except my last trophy was the Submit to Gehrman thing because I always either fought him or Moon Presence.

Even when I found out it still took me ages because I couldn't be fucked making a new character just to suicide to him, his fight is so fun and full of feels that its difficult to skip it any time.
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>>121418992

>dressed up like a constable
>a constable
>In Yharnam

This is so bizarre, I never even once considered that their would be some kind of law enforcement which makes it even funnier. Not to mention he's just wearing a fucking bucket on his head (to protect himself from what exactly?)
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>>121419202
>to protect himself from what exactly?

Maybe fucking bullets?
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>>121418992
>Looks like exactly like Ned Kelly but ironically with a cop uniform

>Is named a Constable


>IRL Constable Gascoine was one of the aussie police officers that took on Ned Kelly in his final battle

Miyazki confirmed dingo fucker
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>>121419514
Getting shot in the head in Bloodborne is about the same as getting hit with a pebble.
>>
If anybody wants some fresh spelunking, I just made 6 new dungeons:

hfrtidf9 — Sinister Loran
dknicmnt — RFC Loran
3q5inche — RFC Pthumeru the rest of the way down
4zyihdtw
rjcajce6
5qramdjr

All depth 5, all shared closed.
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Did the server maintenance fix SRRC?
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>>121419514
Yes, that bucket will clearly be excellent protection from quicksilver bullets.
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>>121419785
I think it definitely helped, I've been able to summon people while grinding gems without stopping to wait.
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>>121419807
Maybe it's a quicksilver bucket m8
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>>121419682

>yfw in game lore rivalry between Constable Buckethead and Father Guzzolene.

Miyazaki you madman
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>>121419202
Bucke t= Solaire's helmet.
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>>121420051

Don't forget to like, comment and subscribe @vaatividya
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>>121418992
Ned Kelly was Australia's version of Robin Hood. He was an outlaw criminal who robbed banks and gave to the poor, he was an Irish boy. Famous for fashioning metal into a suit of ghetto armour under his clothing and taking on loadsapolice.

>>121419682

Is right. Constable Gascoine was a real cop who shot at Ned in a firefight before he was captured and hanged.

Miyazaki seems to have basically turned it on it's head and made Ned Kelly a cop in Bloodborne.

Ned Kelly's last words as he was being hanged in Melbourne were "Such is life". He was Bloodborne as fuck.

Now, if Miyazaki is being accurate, that armour set that Constable Kelly is wearing actually has full plate armour underneath it.

That armour set, or at least, the torso and helm are probably going to be Havel's teir in Bloodborne. That or just insane bullet damage defence.
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>>121419891
Here's hoping.
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>>121420051
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>>121420242
>Vaatividya

what went wrong with him?
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>>121418992
Looks like he's placed in Hemwick. I wonder what the lore is there.
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>>121420227

>Everything's a Solaire reference!

PRAISE LE SUN XD
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>>121420759
Deal with it
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>>121420526

There was never anything right with him.
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So what's the best gem combo for an arcane/fire saw spear?
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>>121420378
Confirmed not Solaire.

Thank fuck for that. I hope since this Ned guy was irish, that they get back that "aye siwmae" gaelic guy to voice buckethead. That would be awesome if he was this weird chirpy irish guy muffled under a bucket.
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>>121420378
>He was Bloodborne as fuck.

What did he mean by this?
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>>121420514
Oh god I'm coming
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>>121421412
Fuck yes just killed a host and scaled-down co-op buddy. Respawned in Hunter's Dream with all vials and bullets refilled.

Wasn't even a ten minute wait, either. I could get used to this.
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>>121421412
I tried to invade through SRC about when you made your post and got one fairly quickly although I've been waiting a while now for my second
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>>121421193
>>121420378
I want an Australian accent to exist in a souls game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEsZkTTgydc
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>>121422062

Australian accents are too rough for video games, especially someone as autistic as Miyazaki.
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>>121421656

>0 bullets
>4 vials

Tough fight huh?
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>>121422941
Yes. I'm not used to group fights, but it was a lot more fun than I'd expected.

After that one invasion though, I've so far gotten two false starts on invading this one guy's depth 1 pthumeru. The messengers appear and the chalice goes up, but then the bell goes back to searching and I'm not sure if it can actually invade after doing that.
>>
SRRC seems just as shit as ever for me. Damn it.
>>
Is there any good use for a triangle bloodtinge gem?
>>
>>121423684
You could put it in Reiterpallasch for even more bullet damage than usual.

Was that an off-shape drop from something?
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>>121423823
Yeah. I was just trying to get a better gem for my gun and got it. Putting it into a reiter causes a huge loss in physical for like 5 points of blood when compared to a phys atk up gem. It really is useless.
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>>121422431
have faith in the big m

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0ao4PxdgzuM
>>
Buscemi, is that a sinister dungeon? You cheeky fucker.
>>
>>121424949
yeah
this is where you go to fight bloodtinge kids it seems
>>
>>121425012
That makes a weird kind of sense.
>>
>>121424283
Bretty gud mate
>>
>>121421412
Still here, I've gotten more SRRC invasion hits tonight than I have since the game came out. Four so far, and it's averaging about one invasion every 10-15 minutes, barring the two dud invasions I got.
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>>121421193
>"aye siwmae" gaelic guy

Domhnall was Welsh, not Irish.
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>tfw waiting for srrc randoms to join the hunt
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>>121427451
I can show up in 20ish minutes if you want, family member
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>>121427451
I'm pretty sure I've fought you. Do you remember my ugly motherfucker?
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>>121428402
yeah nah, we got him

>>121428631
maybe, I kill a lot of ugly motherfuckers
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>>121428835
pretty sure i did the killin m8
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>Get a hit on SRRC
>It's just some fuck waiting for duels in hizz
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>>121428925
you must be mistaken friend, I am the best ever and no one can ever beat me.
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>>121428835
fuck you too then fag
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>>121429220
It's pretty boring because those nerds don't fucking heal and the fights are over in a few swings.

Proper invasions are really fun in CDs though
>>
I know people talk about how end doesn't matter, but ludwigs feels almost unusable with base end because it seems to have the highest stamina consumption in the fucking game.

What's a good end level for it that isn't too low and also doesn't feel like wasted points?
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>Killed someone in Hunter's Dream as an HoH

Loving the chikage blood R1 spam he pulled. Even poisoned I didn't get killed.

Other news, does anyone want to do a Lower Ailing Loran Chalice with me? I want to find that Burial Blade that is really good with 3 phys gems.
>>
>>121429909

20 and two stam runes gets me by with it. It'll seem like too much at first, but when you really get into shenanigans you'll appreciate it.
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>>121429909
When people say endurance doesn't matter, they mean endurance over 20 doesn't matter. 15 is fine if you like getting a couple hits in and getting out of the way before someone shoots your ass, and 20 is for when you want to R1 spam to victory. Anything over 20 is a good sign you fucked up somewhere.
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>>121430073
I can't believe I forgot about runes. I wonder if %20 + 13 end would be enough. I don't think I want to invest in two runes though.
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>>121430307
That gives 116 stamina. 15 endurance and +20% rune would give 120 stamina, if you like round numbers.
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boy that holy moonlight sword looks pretty keen, I guess it's time to do a fucking ARC build
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Do we have a pricetag on the Old Hunter dlc yet?
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>>121430398
I don't want to go from 13->14 because it only gives you a single point and I'm kind of a minmaxing faggot.
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>>121430429
Watch it be quality/arc, just to fuck with us.

>>121430467
$19.99 in the states, last I heard.
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>>121430429
moonlight is related to ludwig, right? I wonder if the str/skl requirements will be the same as the sword.
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>>121430625
please be, I have a bl60 quality/arc half done that I could take to 98
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>>121430467
Check any region's PSN, it's up for preorder already.
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Is 99 arc just a meme?

Does anyone know if it's worth going over 50 for scaling?
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>>121431045
>it's still not up for Ausfags
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>>121431307
Huh? I preordered it this morning off the PSN store.
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>>121431096
Weapons softcap at 50, but hunter tools scale forever. In pvp, 99arc at BL130 is the equivalent of 50str/50skl at 130-150 if you're using tools right. In pve, 99arc A Call Beyond will rape the shit out of every boss in the game.
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>>121431476
oh fuck me now it shows up
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>>121429909
10 end + no rune is fine
the gimmick with ludwig's is to go 50/25 or 25/50 with blunt gems and trade with your 900+ AR bigsword mchugeblade

you don't need to swing more than twice in a row when you two-shot people

>>121429937
yeah, hit me up with that glyph
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>>121430886

Probably higher. In Dark Souls the MLGS has always had relatively high str/dex requirements for a weapon that doesn't scale with either. Weapon requirements seem lesser in general in BB, but I'd imagine that Ludwig's own sword would have higher requirements than the knockoffs.

I'm going to guess 18 str, 14 skl. Anyone want to have a competition about it?
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>>121431727
The glyph is cw8k7x3k.
I'll ring my bell and wait at the Layer 1 lantern, with the password of bbg315
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>>121431509
I feel like, at that point I'd rather stop at 50 and throw points into blt for 25 and basically have the utility of all tools, plus the ability to use just about every weapon in the game save for the reiter/rifle/any split damage weapon and also actually have bullet damage.

I could even squeeze something like that down to sub BL120.
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For the love of god let there be a respec option in the DLC.
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>>121431741
Dark Souls' was only 16/10 and Demon's Souls had 0 requirements save for fai.

And whatever Dark Souls 2's was doesn't count because the game was a mistake.

I wonder what the requirements were like in KF games.
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>>121431727
>10 end + no rune is fine
you can even put it at 9 for an extra point since 9 and 10 end are the same with 91, it doesn't change until 11 with 93 stam
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>>121432447
military veteran starts you off with 10 end, and it's the only way to get 50/25 in scaling stats + 50 vit at BL98
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>>121432114
I think this is what I'm hoping for the most. I really want to try a few high level builds but I cannot be bothered to grind out the chalice dungeons again.
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>>121432576
yeah, military vet seems to be best for builds that have a little bit of str and dex, quality or not

I think 13 end is a good number.
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>>121432231
I'm pretty sure KF weapons didn't have requirements. It's an old series, your stats were probably something like hp, mana, and stamina.
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>>121432576
there's always waste of skin
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>>121432231

Oh you're right, I was thinking of the DS2 one which requires 18/18 or the like. The DeS one was real easy on the requirements. Weighed next to nothing too.

So it's probably going to be the opposite of what I said, it'll be lighter on requirements. If you think about it realistically as well, it's basically just the straight sword form of the church weapons with a trick mode that adds no weight, so it shouldn't require the strength that Kirk or LHB do. Maybe something like 12 str, 9 skill?

I'm just hoping 9 so I won't have to level my arc invader at all

>>121432114
>>121432656

While normally I disdain this sort of thing as casual DS2 bullshit, I would appreciate it now that I might need to replan some builds to accommodate the new weapons, and I similarly fear the chalice run.

Man, if only Mensis gems were the best it got, making new characters would be incredibly easy.
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>>121433015
checking again, MV is the ideal for BL98
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>>121427451
>HE doesn't know

Mate, if you're in a chalice dungeon and you want to summon SRRC people, run in and out of the doorway of the very first elevator, it constantly resets and checks rapidly. Walk in and out every 5 seconds, soon as you see a fog gate go up, walk away.

Congrats, quick easy summons. Dark Souls 1 and Bloodborne use the same shitty netcode with the way it checks. Dark Souls 2 basically checked instantly everywhere and returned a place to invade/summon.

Dark Souls 1 and bloodborne probe outwards and then wait before checking again. It's fucking stupid.
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>>121433382
Sorry, I mean't just any elevator, just to be clear. The doorway right out of the elevator.

Don't walk in and out too fast though, because spamming the check will cause people to start to be summoned, and then disconnected. Walk in and out, wait 5 seconds, do it again till a fog gate goes up.
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>>121433116
I honestly realistically think the moonlight holy blade will have pitiful str/skill requirements but some insane ARC requirement, like 40 minimum.
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>>121433116
It would make sense in this game considering how much investment is required to complete CDs on a new character. I've got two characters through all the dungeons and grinded out 27.2% gems on them both for the main weapons but both are physical damage (SKL and Quality) builds and I really want to try ARC but fuck getting to that point again and then having to grind for ARC gems.

As long as it was extremely costly to respec and wasn't available until end-game I wouldn't have a problem with it. Maybe if it required a once per playthrough item and shit loads of insight, or something. It was way too easy to respec in DS2, there needs to be some level of commitment or cost otherwise everyone just respecs to what's the most effective for PvE/PvP/flavor of the month.
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>>121433116
>12 str, 9 skill?
That's cute. Also pretty adorable that you think it won't have ARC reqs too. I'd expect 20 ARC 10 SKL 15 STR.
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>>121434097
I still think it will be identical to ludwigs + an additional arc req.
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>>121434274

I believe it's going to have the magic shockwave that it's always had.
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>>121434061

I know your pain.

>BLD build.

>killed a brainsucker boss and got a NOURISHING FLAT ARCANE gem.

Yeah, it has HP down, but it's just that much better than every other flat gem I've seen. Useless on the build I found it on.
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holy shit there are like no arcane gems anywhere

why in the fuck did I decide to go pure arc?

do I really have to wait until FRC 5 to get some decent fucking damage?
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>>121433116
I think 16 str, 10/12 skl is more like the one-handed requirement. Think about it: your character uses the trick mode with two hands, so if two-handing followed the same rules as it did in De/aS, it'd give the greatsword and hammer forms a 24 str requirement to use one-handed, which is pretty par for the course in DaS.

I think it's a safe bet to say the Holy Moonlight Sword will need 16 str, and might need 12 skl if LHB is supposed to be a close approximation of it.
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>>121434481
That sure is a gem.
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>>121434514
pthumeru's and central pthumeru's layer 2s have guys close to the lamp that drop cursed fire radials
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>>121434389
I didn't mean moveset. I really have no idea what the moveset will be like but I would assume the same also.

I was only talking about a 16/12 req.

>>121434579
Except in DeS it was as light as a feather and had no str/dex requirements because you were basically swinging air around.
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>>121433116
I'd love a respec option, especially since you can't trade items. I'm sick of getting perfect elemental gems on my physical builds and then not being able to use them.
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>>121434712
which depth?
central is depth 3, right?

what kind of enemy drops those gems?
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>>121434481
>a wheel with three nourishing flat arcanes
Holy moly. That'd be like 20+ extra arcane damage, which is nothing to snort at considering how the wheel works.
I've grinded for hours just to get a radial +72.5. Never even knew nourishing flat was possible. Almost makes me want to restart the grind.
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>>121434728
The DeS version also had no physical component outside the handle and an itty-bitty blade within the larger blade. I wouldn't expect that to weigh much of anything at all.

I don't remember if the DaS version had a more substantial core on the inside, though.
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>>121434968
DaS' was a full physical weapon that weighed the same as the majority of other greatsword class weapons but still did pure magic damage.

From what we've seen, we can probably assume that it will have something like shit tier D/D scaling with physical damage in untricked mode and really good phys/arc split in tricked.
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>>121435367
phy/arc split damage, that is

not scaling
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>>121434481
Is that just a super rare drop for that boss?

Can't you just farm and save scum layer 3 for that kind of gem?
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>>121419202
>(to protect himself from what exactly?)
The curse?
Just like those wheel guys
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>>121435367
Why would the trick mode have higher physical scaling? That doesn't seem right. I'm expecting it to be more like the wheel, with great physical and terrible arcane in sword mode but flips them around in moonlight mode.
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>>121435926
That's not what I said. I said it will probably have good split damage instead of pure arc. It will probably have shitty phys scaling in general.
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>>121435367
Doubt that.

Bloodbornes weapons are all about their multi use. They're supposed to be useable in all forms.

Here's what I thinks going to happen.

The sword will be completely raw damage wise, but have the highest base damage in the game.

My bet, is that the sword is glass. Let's say untricked mode it's natural +10 base damage is 350 physical, 150 points higher than ludwigs base damage, but doesn't scale at all and requires like 30 ARC to wield.

When you trick the weapon, it converts the damage entirely into arcane, and then adds damage scaling from your arcane stat, and the sword lights up, going anywhere up to 800+ damage etc.
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Anyone want to help me with the undead giant with the club?
Pass is bbg, I'm level 52.
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>>121435653
Possibly, dunno. It was a brainsucker on layer 1.

I save scummed the same guy on an arcane build later not joking like 200 times. Never once saw a single nourishing, whereas the one in that pic dropped first time on my BLD build.

Anything is possible.
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I know everyone's hyped for the MLGS but I just really want to see the new rapier/sabre in action.

>>121436197
Searching with SRC now
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>>121436730
I'm really excited for Galasha's Fist if it means I can parry without needing bullets.
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>>121436197
srrcing
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>>121436730
hope the tracking with it isn't shit

I'm actually more interested in the bow than the MLGS
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OK, vilebloods, I have an important question:
Does the evelyn shoot three bullets, and if not, why not?
I suppose I know why it scales with bloodtinge and not skill, but i'll hear why anyway
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>>121437013
what the fuck
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>>121436845
>>121436793
>>121436730
I'm just hype as fuck for fashion and the burial cleaver

although I'm a little worried that the top in pic related is going to have a cape attached

>>121437013
it's pretty stupid to be here if you haven't even played the game, man
you're going to spoiled pretty gosh dang hard
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>>121436730
>>121436823
Boy this is taking a while.
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>>121437013
no firearms scale with anything other than bt except for main hand weapons like the reiter or rifle spear

you should play the game
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>>121437526
I'm actually retarded
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>>121437665
Yeah I even started searching again just to make sure the password was right and still nothing.
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>>121437526
>>121437763
That's the top they've shown with a red-lined cape, yeah? I'd be alright with an actual cape, though I wish there were less cloak-type things overall.
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>>121437013
What are you even on about, mate?

If you think Evelyn is the most damaging pistol in the game, you're wrong by two places: Repeating Pistol deals more damage per shot (which is why it costs two bullets instead of one), and the Reiterpallasch's built-in pistol can become stronger purely due to having three blood gems instead of one. The only benefit to using Evelyn over either or both of these is that it costs fewer bullets and doesn't require basically giving up your primary weapon.

Gun damage doesn't scale with skill because gun damage scales with bloodtinge. These aren't bows and arrows, they're quicksilver bullets infused with the wielder's own blood. The user is assumed to be accurate enough to hit what they're aiming at.
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>>121437709
Mainhand firearms don't scale with anything other than bloodtinge. Only the weapon damage itself is affected by strength/skill.

And no, having more skill does not magically make the tempering gems apply a higher bonus to the weapon's blood damage.
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>>121438538
mainhand firearm damage is absolutely effected by phys% gems
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>>121438727
That isn't what I said. Yes, all firearm damage is affected by tempering gems. No, mainhand firearm damage is not affected by your character's skill stat in any way.
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>>121437837
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>>121438853
So a +10 rifle spear with 27% gems and 50/50 str/skl will have exactly the same bullet damage as a +10 rifle spear with 27% and only base requirements met?
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>Tempted to ring the SRRC
>Know that Co-operative search will yield mostly Defiled Watchdog and Amygdala or low tier Story Chalices
>Even more assuredly, Adversarial Search will only turn up dueling chalices and people who're fighting a boss.

I thought improved response times would solve my problems. I thought I'd be helping people clear interesting Root glyphs and stuff. Fuck me.
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>>121439030
Assuming the upgrade, gems, and bloodtinge are all identical, the enemy being tested on has the same blood defense, and both shots are a clean hit, then yes. A weapon's blood damage is the only thing that determines bullet damage. Should be easier to test using the reiterpallsch though, since it doesn't have a shotgun blast.

>>121439128
Half my adversarial searches so far have been normal hosts with a cooperator trying to clear the dungeon. Found this one dueller with a BPS near the bell maiden, that one ended well when I let it bite me.
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>>121439128

>tfw always have my bell on in FRC dungeons but nobody ever gets summoned

I try, /bbg/, I really do.
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>>121439393
Then considering blt scaling is so contained, would you say blt is worth leveling to use the repeater/evelyn exclusively and nothing more?
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>>121437837
You still ringing?
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>>121440127
Nope I gave up just now, assumed the guy summoning had left/wasn't working
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>>121439926
50 bloodtinge builds at level 80-120 exist, and that's basically what they do. They also use the chikage, which is the only weapon in the game that deals blood damage on melee attacks (but only in its trick mode). Pure bloodtinge builds are annoying in pvp since gun spam is so safe and hard to punish unless you want to dodge every single bullet, and with bone marrow ash they can even kill you using bullets alone. In pve you can literally just shoot bosses to death, up to a point. By about depth 4 the bosses just start getting too tanky for that shit.
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>>121440442
what about just 25 blt so that eve/repeater become more viable as actual damage sources?

people seem to say arc/blt don't mix, but I don't see how they couldn't if blt is nearly completely self contained and doesn't synergize with anything save for two mainhand weapons.
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Ayy bbg, where the fuck do I go after Amygdala?
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>>121440841
have you finished the woods?
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>>121440841
that boss was optional
killed rom?
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>18 sleeps until DLC

Oh Laurence... What's taking you so long?
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>>121440747
>but I don't see how they couldn't
because arc needs a lot of bullets
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>>121440930
>>121440939
Yes.
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>>121441041
Did you miss the giant open door in front of you after rom?
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>>121441170
Possibly? Is it located in Moonside Lake?
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>>121441170
If it helps, I've defeated Logarius and The One Reborn.
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>>121441170
>>121441275
>>121441041
after killing rom, it transports you to a huge door with a amgdala that can grab you

you're supposed to go THROUGH the door

go back to amelia's bossroom and take the exit on the left (the one that doesn't lead to hemwick)
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>>121440747
25 blt is just the bare minimum to make evelyn stronger than hunter's pistol. It's not enough to make it do significant damage.

While a blt/arc hybrid build would be great in theory, there are three problems that ruin the idea: both bloodtinge and arcane are all-or-nothing stats, and there is no weapon that scales with both simultaneously, and both stats actually kind of work against each other.

Bloodtinge builds want to shoot an enemy, then finish off with a visceral attack. Arcane builds want to spend large sums of bullets on a single spell, and don't want to waste time visceraling at all since those are physical damage and their gems wouldn't boost it. And then there's the all-or-nothing thing: if you have 50 arcane, you simply have a weapon with a different damage type. Your spells won't do much damage to write home about. If you have less than that, now your weapon is doing less damage. As for bloodtinge, it wants 50 and only 50. Any less, and even the chikage's blood mode will do less damage than the normal mode.

Strength and skill synergize so well because they're both physical damage and there are plenty of weapons that use both. Skill and bloodtinge synergize well because skill boosts visceral damage, and all bloodtinge weapons are also skill weapons. Strength and arcane synergize because the wheel is great and the tonitrus is a functional backup. Skill/arc doesn't technically exist, and arc/blt is just contradictory.
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>>121441489
Done already
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>>121441472
after one reborn there's a body you interact with to go to the next area
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Read the OP you nerd.

>>121341662
>Where to go next in BB
http://pastebin.com/kr9TbvKS
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>>121441618
Name of the next area? I'll check if I've done it.
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>>121441676
But that doesn't talk about the Nightmare of Mensis.

>>121441749
The Nightmare of Mensis.
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>>121441676
Wait nevermind, I thought that was something else.

>>121441749
The name of the area his body leads to is the Lecture Hall 2nd floor. You may already have the 1st floor lamp, but the second floor lamp is only accessible from Rom.

Here, let's do this the smarter way. Open your trophy list and post what bosses you haven't killed yet.
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>>121441803
Haven't been there.
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>>121441864
Go to Advent Plaza, walk up the stairs, touch the guy with the cage on his head.
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>>121441857
>but the second floor lamp is only accessible from Rom
From The One Reborn, I mean. Fuck, is it midnight so soon?
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>>121441857
The two below The One Reborn
Below Hemwick
2 below Logarius
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>>121441963
>The two below The One Reborn
Right, follow >>121441916's instructions for those.

>below hemwick
Poke around Yahargul a bit more, and you might find a pretty cool hole in the wall.

>below logarius
Check your inventory for a key that refers to Cathedral Ward. If you don't have it, poke around Yahargul... again.
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>>121441916
Done it before, explored both floors of the lecture building too.
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>>121441749
The Nightmare of Memphis, Tennessee.
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>>121442184
Not enough apparently, because you missed a door going to the Nightmare of Mensis
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>>121442184
You didn't, or you'd be at the Nightmare of Mensis. Go back to the second floor of Lecture Building.
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>>121442130
Thanks. Fuck I guess I'll have to poke around Yahaha more. I hate that place.
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>>121442361
Did you go to Hypogean Gaol?
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>>121438420
>>121437013
why doesnt it shoot 3 bullets?
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>>121442465
Stop asking retarded questions. It doesn't, and there's no reason why it should.
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>>121442465
Why should it?
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>>121442465
It's called Evelyn not Avelyn homo
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>>121442528
>>121442758
Oh shit how I could I have forgotten that. God damn it.
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>>121442758
Oh, that's what he was on about.
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hey guys, i'm late to the party, just started playing Bloodborne

question: just got Ludwig's Holy Blade, what build do you guys recommend for this? people seem to argue between str/skill vs arcane

i'm leaning towards str/skill cause it seems to leave other options open, but i'd appreciate some pro input

also what stats do you guys recommend for such build?

or is LHB bad now and i should focus on something else?
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>>121443427
50 strength, 25 skill. it's a quality weapon. the arcane scaling is only in effect if you have to doing arcane damage.

i don't personally like the weapon but if you go with the above stats you'll be able to use most of the weapons in game fairly easily.
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>>121443427

LHB works either way-- it scales well with quality stats and ARC, but you need to nab some elemental gems in order to utilize that scaling.

Anyway, quality is great for LHB, but put more of an emphasis on STR. The scaling it has for STR is slightly higher than the scaling it has for SKL even though they're the same letter.
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>>121443427
LHB is very strong, think maybe black knight sword from DS1 if you've played that. It's a very versatile moveset for PvE too. That said it gets shit on because of how easy it is to use and how easy it makes the game.

Quality focusing on STR is probably the best way to build for it.
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>>121443427
Arcane is complicated shit for a first time run, it'd be easier to go with str/skl instead until you understand elemental damage better. Little tip from a real pro: str/skl Ludwig's lets you use beast blood pellets, which is something an arcane build can never take advantage of.
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>>121443559
>>121443535
>>121443601

Its strength scaling is only better before +10. At +10, they're actually perfectly even.
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>>121443710
the scaling isn't why i suggest 50 strength and 25 skill, though i actually didn't know they were even at +10. I just recommend it because then the kirkhammer can be used for the pain and the pellets.
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>>121443812
I'd say ludwig's is better at pellets than kirk is, due to the enormous horizontal sweeps getting the extra beasthood on multiple enemies at once. It's definitely a crowd breaker, which is something new players have trouble with.
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>>121443710

Yeah, I'm aware. I should have mentioned that, though. It's gonna take a while before that anon reach +10 anyway, so they might as well have a slight bias towards strength.
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>>121443535
>>121443559
>>121443601
>>121443612

thanks for the tips guys, i'll go with a str > skill balanced quality build for my first run then and get creative on my second playthrough

are there any soft caps for stats i should be aiming for? currently at:

20 Vitality
11 Endurance
18 Str
17 Skill
8 Bloodtinge
7 Arcane
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>>121444073

Softcaps for stats is 25, hardcap is 50.
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Easy shards: Cathedral Ward
Easy twin shards: Hemwick, Gaol
Easy chunks: ???

Do I really have to wait until Unseen Yar Ghoul?
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>>121443612
point 7 should mention that gems increase crit damage too
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>>121443996
Fair point, and most of the more fun early weapons are strength slanted anyways.

>>121444073
The first softcap for weapon damage is 25, and the second is 50. Pay attention to how the numbers change when on the level screen and you should be fine.

The "softcap" for endurance is actually a hell of a lot higher than you'll ever need, due to how low the stamina cost on everything is. 20 is almost considered excessive even for a super high level build. 15 is a more practical number.

Try to get 30 vitality ASAP, and don't bother going over 50 at all.

Welcome to the fun, newfriend. Hope you last, I really want to kill you.
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>>121444330
No you have to wait until you can farm FRC Isz, namely hu83p9r.
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>>121444330
1 chunk in the forest
shitload in unseen village 2.0
3 maybe in cainhurst
2 from a big crystal lizard near the brain sucker just before amgdala, nightmare
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>>121444320
>>121444352

thanks guys, i'll work on getting my vit to 30 next
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>>121444330
Easiest non-dungeon chunks is upper cathedral ward, so yes. Dungeon chunks can go really, really fast if you get a good dungeon to farm, though.

>>121444348
That'd be getting into the really technical minutia though, and isn't tremendously useful to a new player. New players need to know just enough to be able to learn more.

Crit damage counts as physical damage, which is why tempering and nourishing gems increase it but elemental gems don't, and also why beasthood affects it.
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>>121444394
huy83p9r **

Best chunk farm
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Anyone want to join a BL43 in stabbing Martyr Logarius to death?
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>>121447046
I do sure. Name that pass, baby.
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>>121447436
bbg33, ringing at the fog.
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>>121447454
ring-a-ding-ding
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>>121447454
Did you win, son?
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>>121447847
The man who was previously known as Martyr Logarius is no more. Many thanks friend.
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>Called into Host's world
>They silence their beckoner bell right away
This how you know your host is a cool guy.
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>>121448429
Does it do anything aside from the obvious?
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>>121448601
You're confusing me. What about that post would imply Beckoner Bells have other effects?
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>>121448429
What do you mean? Like, they sent you home?
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>>121448776
No. I mean they silenced their beckoning bell.
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Where would I be able to get the most co-op at BL 55?
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>>121448685
One of my friends thinks it reduces lag if you silence the bell after summoning. Nothing from your post implies secondary effects, I just don't know why silencing it would be good.
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>>121449062
>, I just don't know why silencing it would be good.
Because he's not gonna call in even more co-operators and turn everything into a mindless and boring shitstomping fest. He knows that one helper is plenty.
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>Get summoned to Isz
>There's one of those typical Pthumeru large arched chambers, except the right wall is gone and it leads right into a double-staircase room

I didn't know they could do that.
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>>121449154
Oh alright.
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>>121449167
It's pretty cool right? I had a layer 3 Isz Glyph area with that room configuration and a Pilgrim enemy wandering.
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>>121448831
Why is this a good thing, now?
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>>121449594
Because if you end up with more than 2 players, all challenge and tension is completely removed. Most bosses can get stunlocked and basic enemies melt.

It's pure easy mode and I resent hosts who let it happen.
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>>121449692
>I resent hosts who let it happen

You're weird.
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>>121449692
First we had the guy who hated overzealous summons, now we have the guy who hates overzealous hosts.
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>>121449692
From really should buff bosses significantly more when there's more than 1 player. 6 years later and summoning phantoms still suddenly makes the game easy-peasy. At least there's cursed chalices now.
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>>121449732
I'm weird because I want my co-op experiences to still hold some sort of basic level of challenge? I'm not co-oping just for the warm fuzzy feeling of helping somebody and it hardly even feels like helping when there's three of us shredding everything in sight.

>>121450054
I killed two different BLBs in FRC chalices helping with SRRC tonight. Both times it was a 3v1 gangfuck where it sat there stunlocked and fell over like a bitch.
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>>121450178
Yeah.

You're weird.
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>>121450054
>cursed chalices
File photo for summoning/being summoned in cursed chalices.

It is NEVER worth it with Amy and Hotdog too because you can't properly exploit their moveset with another pleb running around
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>>121450225
>series known for unforgiving design and ever-present danger and challenge
>but I'm weird for wanting those elements at least preserved on a basic level
I don't get it/
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>>121450383
>series known for unforgiving design and ever-present danger and challenge
le prepare to die meme
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>>121450383
the host wanted help because he can't beat the area or wants to get through it as fast as possible
I doubt everyone that summons has "oh I hope I please miyazaki-kun with my playthrough so he can fuck my ass nicely tonight" in the back of their minds
really think about it -- the summoning mechanic altogether is counter-intuitive with "unforgiving design and ever-present danger"
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>>121450541
It's not a meme. Fromsoft's RPGs have always been that way. they only started to market them based on it recently, but it's not like KF/Shadow Tower were tame/easy
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>>121450638
>the host wanted help
Yes but when you call more than 1 helper, you're basically toggling on godmode and teleporting to the next lantern. It's not fun. Ideally we should be having FUN, not just trudging through the game so you can say you did it.
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>>121450757
aw shit, I guess I overslept on the morning "fun" was universally defined for every person on the planet
the long and short of it is that you don't know what the host wants, so you have assumptions to make
>the host needs any help he can get because this level is too hard for him
>the host wants to explore the game to tell everyone he played the game the way it was intended

this is the exact same debate as having summons that do everything for the host and I don't doubt you're the same autist that spurred that shit either
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>>121450661

That's more a side-effect of the design aesthetic though. They're designed first and foremost to be immersive, and the occasional difficulty of certain boss fights or ambushes, such as the archers in Anal Rodeo, are just something that gets you involved in the game. I bet lots of people remember the archers who don't remember Nito or Bed of Chaos, and it's because it's a simple but effective setup they had there. If silver knights were defending that place, that's absolutely what they would do, bar the door and watch the ramparts. I mean, the same game that contains the Maneaters, a giant poison swamp and a boss who sucks away your levels finishes out with a total pushover for the final boss.

I think the point has always been to create an immersive experience as much as a game, and if a boss needs to be easy to fit the world, so be it, put Pinwheel in there. This is one of the key areas where DS2 diverted from the usual formula because they took the marketing strategy and tried to build it into the actual game, rather than just letting it be a marketing strategy.
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I've been summoned into Hintertomb more than any other kind of chalice. What the fuck?
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I've looked through the OP, but I cannot find anything about delicious 30% blunt gems. Where can those be farmed?
Thanks.
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>>121452895
I've been told undead giants are the best bosses for farming them

however, they're a rare drop from watchers as well, so have fun with that shit
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>>121452895
>>121453184

Glyph z3d37utb for Cursed Adept Dank Blunt Gems

FRC Cursed Pthumeru Ihyll
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>>121453254
thanks senpai (senpai)
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>>121453313
np family
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>>121453254
these are good for ludwig's tricked?
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>>121453589
Yeah, except for the thrusts obviously
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>>121453857

From the sounds of that article it sounds like that the whole "The League" business is a separate patch to TOH.

I dunno bruh
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>>121453857
>An upcoming patch will offer all players exciting new features in the original game
it's literally in the first paragraph, moron
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>>121454051
Guess I'll actually play the game anon, thanks, instead of acting like a wise ass like this genius >>121454063
God I get why some of the Dank Souls fans despise some Bloodborne fans.
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>>121451401
Dude, please stop.
>>121450757 is right in saying that calling more than one helper is ezmode.
The only times I've had 2 helpers is when playing with friends, and that's just to make the game seem a little less mundane, which I feel is fair considering how long the game has been out.

In my opinion, 2 summons change BB into something mindless due to play styles changing from precise and dynamic to R1 spamming behind each boss for stunlocks.


On another note, have BB's servers been updated? Connecting with a sinister is taking 40 seconds at most in both nightmare areas.
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>>121454524
>On another note, have BB's servers been updated? Connecting with a sinister is taking 40 seconds at most in both nightmare areas.
could just be an influx due to the dlc only being 2 weeks away
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what does more bullet damage with 25/50 skl/blt

rifle spear with 3 27.2% gems
blunderbully with a 31.5%
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>MFW spent the night getting summoned and helping people clear dungeons instead of invading them, slaughtering everyone and dropping coins on their corpses

It was pretty nice desu.
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Anyone awake? I need some companionship
c2rd6iji layer 2 (story)
bbg69
BL100
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>>121453627
Wait, tricked Ludwig has blunt damage?
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>>121456927
Tricked LHB is 100% blunt besides the first R2.
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I had a dream about The Old Hunters last night for some reason

I saw there was a boss after you climbed up to a ladder who is really similar to Moon Presence but more compact(?)
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Any news or insights about the new cutlass/katana thing this dude has?
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>>121457779
I seriously fucking hope it's some kind of a bloodtinge MLGS analog capable of shooting blood.
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>>121457779
Everyone calls that a katana and I have no clue why. Is it because of the scabbard? Do they think that only katanas had them? Well news-flash bucko, that ain't the case. Seems you need to take a trip back to sword school ASAP.
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>>121457894
Pretty far left but I hope it has some moves that have False King Allant's shockwave things at the end of the attacks.

>>121457954
The scabbard seems curved and it's a fromsoft game with only 1 katana so far.
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>>121457954
>all those sword experts
>all this wanking for European swords
>muh half swording, muh mörderhau

Is it Skallagrims/Lindys/Gladiatoras fault that all those 'experts' are around everywhere now?
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>>121457954
>>121458115

Could be a gunto. Japonaise used them during WWII but they're more like sabers than anything.

>>121458487

Not their fault, I think if anything the presence of those people should communicate to their viewers, such as myself, that there's a lot of things to know and as such I'm probably not an expert of any kind.
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Is there a chalice that is good for farming Chunks that does need remaking (i.e. that I can make, beat the boss once, then just farm chunks from the regular enemies at a better rate thank the wolves in the upper ward)?
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>>121458487
Hey man I'm just tryng to spark some conversation. Though those guys do make it evident and say they are no experts,at least Skallagrim does anyway.
>>121458585
Guntos are cool but it looks "too modern" for Bloodborne. Most of the stuff in Bloodborne takes inspiration from shit from before or during World War I.
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>>121458908
Nope. huy83p9r is the only way.
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>>121458919
Nah, it may be more modern, but it fits the theme and aesthetics of the game, so there really isn't any reason they couldn't have used it as reference.
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>>121371932
lol senpai the blade wave originates from armored core
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>lower pthumeru giant
>12k hp
>one shots me with most attacks
>level 73, best weapon is +7 saw cleaver
WELP THERE GOES MY NIGHT
SEE YOU ON THE OTHER SIDE BOYS
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>>121457581
>similar to Moon Presence but more compact(?)
So... BSB?
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>>121458487
I just see another weapon in which to progress the hunt.

>>121459703
Surely the best boss fight From has made, let alone the entire gaming industry.
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>Most Outer Gods use strange alien languages, while Nyarlathotep uses human languages and can easily pass for a human being if he chooses to do so. Finally, most of them are all-powerful yet evidently without clear purpose or agenda, yet Nyarlathotep seems to be deliberately deceptive and manipulative, and even usespropagandato achieve his goals. In this regard, he is probably the most human-like among the Outer Gods.
Could the wheelchair man be the Moon Presence in disguise?
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>>121461757
What are you quoting?
>wheelchair man
Gherman? I don't think the one you speak with throughout the game and the one you fight at the end are the same person anyway, unless, being that he's in a Dream and not his physical form, can change the way people perceive him, thus allowing for him to have both legs and come to full strength.
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>>121463429
I'm pretty sure he has a peg-leg when you fight him
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>>121463648
indeed he does.
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>trying to farm gargs with kirk
>hammer slams every single one out of the map

By the way, how does Kirk's holy damage work? Does it do more damage to gargs too in both modes?
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>>121464403
Kirk only gets the 50% bonus damage in sword mode.
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>>121463648
>>121464071
Aw shit, I'll have to go into NG+ just to watch for it extra hard now. I could have sword he had 2 shoes.

I just wish you got both outfits, because that shredded cape and tophat are dope boy fresh as fuck.
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>>121464579
>I could have sword he had 2 shoes.
>sword shoes
FROM PLS
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>>121464579
The outfit he has when fighting you is the charred hunter's set with a tophat.
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>>121464725
With a much better color scheme, you can't top a red and black cape, you just can't.
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>>121464725
Wait, is the dead body in Yharnam you grab it from his?
Did Djura kill Gherman?

I'm almost positive that it's not the same chest piece, though. It doesn't have the collar and some other shit, like the red on the inside.
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>>121464782
Oh, you're right, I never noticed the different color scheme.

>>121464825
My bad. The collar is a lot more exaggerated, and the cape's color is a bit different.
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>>121419202
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>>121463429
The wiki page for Nyarlathotep. A popular depiction of Nyarlathotep is pretty clearly the inspiration for Moon Presence's design, and it may have influenced its role in the lore as well.

The wheelchair man I'm talking about is the one who binds you with the contract at the beginning cutscene.
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>>121466473
Oh, that'd be pretty cool.
>Wheelchair/MP
Maybe he's just a subject working for MP, similar to the Hunter MC? Either way, it's an idea.

Since TOH is the only DLC, I really hope it answers most everything.
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'' With Bloodborne's The Old Hunters expansion just around the corner, From Software will be rolling out a big patch for the game offering a host of new features for all Bloodborne players. This includes The League, additional NPC co-op hunters and more.

The League is a band of hunters bound by their oath and a single purpose, according to Sony Computer Entertainment Japan Studios Producer Masaaki Yamagiwa, writing on the PS Blog.

"By aligning yourself to The League, led by a mysterious figure in a constable’s garb and bucket helmet (pictured above), you can assist other players online in the game and compete in The League’s online rankings leaderboard."

You'll also be able to use The League cane to summon co-op NPCs within the game to aid you in tackling Bloodborne's most taxing areas and bosses. As well as revealing The League and new co-op NPC hunters, there's also a sneak peek at one of the new weapons coming in The Old Hunters.

It's called the Holy Moonlight Sword and can be seen in the first image below. "Do you have what it takes to wield its mysterious power?" Yamagiwa asks. Bloodborne's The Old Hunters DLC launches on 24th November.''

Nice, new covenant.
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>>121467705
did you think that the 3 people still playing bb wouldn't have already seen this?
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>>121467821

Didn't see anything about it here, sorry for spreading the news good hunter.
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>>121467892
Well, uh, this is usually the first place to receive all news regarding BB, it was posted like ages ago already 100 times.
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What are the best gems for kirk ?
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>>121467996
Shut the fuck up, faggot.

It's new to me. I knew about the cane but didn't see the translation.
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>>121468020
Adept if you only use the hammer, tempering if you use both forms.
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>>121468031
Are you the very same latefaggot who starts immediately projecting and calling others by names in fear, when they notify you about hearing same news ages ago?

Because you're a fucking retard, stay away if you can't keep up with the news without turning into a huge bitch who can't handle the backfire for being latefaggot
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>>121468031
>wahh I'm new pls be gentle

get out or shut the fuck up pls newfag
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>>121468280
>>121468201

I wasn't even the person who posted the translation just now. You are literally telling people to not post things and stifling discussion.

Fuck off, retards. Holy shit.
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Who's farming pwm watchers right now? Can a strength character ring their beck bell. Maybe if I join someone I'll get better gems for my arcane build ;_;
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Can anyone help me with the defiled hotdog? He's bullying the shit out of me right now
jup2vzfp
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>>121468329
Also, I literally just skimmed this thread and the last one and didn't see a full translation. That was the first full one that has been posted.

You guys are fucking gay.
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>>121468329
You should really train your reading comprehension
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>>121466804
>I really hope it answers most everything

You don't really get Miyazaki's storytelling techniques or cosmic horror do you?
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Is that arcane scaling +22.5 any good? Or are the flats/% better?
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>>121468031
Now now anon there's no need to show hostility in here while everybody is having fun. If you must go back to /v/ if you're feeling sesantive like a flower. Good day anon *tips top hap*
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>>121468673
I can in 6 hours - PSN ragincajunnugz if you want to message and I'll get back with you if no one has helped by then.

>>121469069
Scaling gems, of any variety, have never been good. I hope someone finds a purpose for them other than 'From wanted more variety for the RNG so people wouldn't get the gems they wanted right away'.

>>121468387
Doing testing with someone, we found that the co-op almost always gets off-gems, like fire/bolt/striking/radiant, while the Host gets Tempering almost every time.

Just letting you know.
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>>121469757
>6 hours
I remember you from yesterday though
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>>121469897
Sorry for dying a ton in Mensis. I tend to fuck around if we're not in a boss fight.
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Which weapons do you use for fun, /bbg/?
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>>121470070
it's all good
>>121470212
beast claws and tonitrus
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>>121470212
beast claws
LHB, the post-trick attack is so dope and the jump attack is massive
chikage for pvp, as long as you don't play like a mindless l1r1/r1 spammin goob
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What weapon haven't you used even once, /bbg/?

I have never even tried bitch claws
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>>121470359
That reminds me, anyone have that webm of the Tonitrus R1 spam that looks like a funky dance?
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>>121470212
All of them.
It's why my str build, with 15skl/10arc has BoM, BB, Threaded Cane, and other shit to at least +9 with 27.2%+ gems on them.

I've even gotten kills with my BoM in FC's, and they only have 332 AR lol I mean fuck, the tricked R1 spam hits for 90's

>>121470548
People that aren't new haven't used them all?
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>>121470359
>>121470497
>>121470753
Neat, thanks anons. I'm just starting again after a five month hiatus.
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>>121470748
it was L1
IIRC there were a serious of webms of the same character doing funny things. I can't remember his name though. It was a black guy wearing the crown
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>>121470548

I've never used the beast claws either, mostly because I've never actually found them.
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>>121470748
Oh, that 'jimmy goes to a rave'?
Nah, sorry.
It's the L1, too.

>>121470813
Oh, in that case, make a str build. My favorite by far and I've made str/skl/arc/blt.
Blt was the most boring by far, I didn't even take it through the CD's for gems like the other 3.

Also, make a BL43 twink. STUPID fun. webm related
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>>121470753
I can't bring myself to even try the claws. I just... Can't, I just dislike them so much.
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>>121470910
Man that was nice, I'll definitely try that.
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>>121470910
>'jimmy goes to a rave'

Yeah that was the one. He was shirtless and had a fucked up face. I wished I'd saved that.
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>>121470935
I did >>121396523 yesterday, and it was fucking terrific.

>>121471047
I'll help you anytime. Co-op is all I do if I'm not invading. PSN ragincajunnugz
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>>121471126
Thanks, I'll hit you up if I'm struggling.
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>open thread
>Lucifer
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>>121471126
>The host just stands back and watches you kill his summon
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>>121471532
This is a hilariously common practice in DS2. Some of them will just disconnect after their summons are dead.
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>>121471597
>This is a hilariously common practice in DS2

Can't say I've done much invading in DS2, mostly just co-oped. Seen a lot of cheeky invaders who think they're clever for ringing the bell in the Undead Crypt and hiding amongst the mobs, as if I didn't always make sure to have a giant seed when I lay my sign there.
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r8 my hunter
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>>121450268
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>>121471934
I did all of my DS2 invading back before they nerfed everything to hell. I'm usually pretty patient with invasions but it got to the point where that game was so boring and fights with gank squads took so long that I just couldn't put up with it anymore.
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Post bloody bloodfus
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>>121471940
justiceisblind/10
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>>121471430
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>>121472603
>heterochromia
into the trash
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>>121472365
>jeromegotowned.webm
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>>121473131
I bet you only watched 3 animes, unlike me, psh.............
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post fun webms
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>>121473268
Goddamn I love that elevator.
I killed these guys after, but I had to webm this part alone, it's too good.
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>>121473108
>mfw I wasn't in the thread

Fuuuug, would have been glorious.
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I'm bored. Someone give me a fun build for a playthrough.
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>>121473268
>He leapt down after you
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>>121473442
I think I've spent the most amount of time online dicking around on mensis elevators.
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>>121473524
99 ARC/10 VIT
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>>121473938
this t bh
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>>121473938
I'm just now gem farming for mine, does it get any better than 'ExGlove boss until dead'? lol
Nah, but it's a nice break from regular builds. Almost gemmed my Wheel fully, and just have my fire spear and nourishing Tonitrus to finish.

Any suggestions? Was thinking of fire LHB.

>>121473678
Oh for sure. That one specifically is great because, unlike upper Mensis, they're actual invasions and not people looking for a fight.
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>>121473549
I wonder what he was thinking or was it a fumbling of buttons?
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>>121474243
I remember this one, too.
How stupid, but hilariously so.
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>>121474607
What in the fuck?
I've seen the one with Rom in Lower, but this is crazy.
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>>121474840
I really have no clue either
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>>121474994
Is there a way to make it stop doing that once you've got it going?
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>>121474407
damn you cut it off at the best part or was it intended to be like " you know what happens next.. "

lol at my old webms, exploring chalices for the first time and being skeptical of warning notes.
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never forget
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Do you feel like Gascoigne starts to lose his humanity when he's buried to the hilt in a nice warm boipucci? Do you think his bottoms take the cock or the knot?
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>>121475337
Boi-poochie?
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>>121475337
I mean, sound it out. I can't see pucci without thinking gucci, goo-chie. Boi-poo-chie. That sounds weird, doesn't it?
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>>121475337
the cock
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>>121475337
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>>121475923
That fuckers airtime!!!!

Could you make another webm just focusing on his deep thoughts flying through the air in slow motion?
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>>121476170
maybe some day
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>>121475337


Don't wanna sound like an asshole or anything but do you get horny as fuck to ask that kind of questions?
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>>121476735
I wonder if all the homos that play fromsoft games are gross
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>>121476619
tiny tonitrus is the shit
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>>121475173
Mine stopped on its own.

>>121475185
>you know what happens next
Yes

Wait, I just played it, and it doesn't show them getting slammed? Fuck, I didn't know that. It worked before. Oh well, I think it might be better this way. I hit them both.

Here's another then.
>>121475185
>beware of foul spirit
>immediately attack conspicuous yet non-suspicious smoke cauldron
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
I've never laughed harder at a webm in my fucking life

>>121475923
Sorry, 2nd best webm now.
still chuckle evrytiem
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>>121475923
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Kinda getting bored of the Evelyn, any other guns good/fun to use with BT?
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>>121476735
I'm here for the porn, senpai, and I want the pleasure of being cummed inside by gascoigne
There's one of us in every thread
I'd also fuck ebritas
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>>121453254
what's the best blunt % I can get from this? Just got a 28.7
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>>121483474
32.6% total, but what boss is dropping them from that glyph?
If Undead Giant, fuckdammit, if something else, hurray.

Either way, I need blunts. lol weed
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>>121475337

>bottoming for Gascoigne

I'd rather be on top, senpai.
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>>121481840
>there is one of us in every thread

you mean it's all (you)
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>>121484017
cannondead giant in layer 1

his downward cannon shot is fucking retarded, man
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>>121484162
I wonder how many gay dudes there are here.
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>>121484162
No, which is surprising
I mean, in the start of the general I was jerking myself a lot
But the truth is, I only have two posts ITT. Now three. It seems like everyone enjoys a good old lovecraftian dicking
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>>121484259
I'll take that over chains or double scythe.
At least they're easy with 2 people, even if the fights still take 10 minutes each.

I'll co-op it with you sometime, my only perfect blunt gem is -hp and I use it.
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>>121484276

Reporting for duty!
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>>121484276
I'm gay for Micolash's voice if that counts
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I really hope they introduce some new tilesets to the dungeons in the DLC.

Chalice dungeons were such a massive waste of potential since they tied them to the lore rather than just to the gameplay.

What I mean is due to the lore it can't do shit but go underground, but they would have been so much better if they had a Castle/Desert/Forest/Plains/Snow/etc... anything really, just to diversify from tunnels, tunnels, and more tunnels.
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>>121485079
GRANT US EYES GRANT US EYES
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>>121486513
>GRANT US GUYS GRANT US GUYS
You now can't unhear.
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>>121484276
The entire "core" circlejerk are gay for each other.
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>>121486669
If you're talking about the names that get mentioned a lot, I would have to agree as I am one.
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too much blt

y/n

http://mugenmonkey.com/bloodborne/6785
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>>121487448
why do you need more than 50? you have 13 wasted points
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>>121487589
because it still gives decent AR to kat / evelyn / repeater and because what else am I going to put points into?
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>>121487448
Why don't you fuckers just take screenshots?
Also, I would say yes. Hell, if you don't care about level, might as well put some points into End and Arc while you're at it.
Shit, why not put Skl to 50, too?
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>>121487758
not him put you could put it into end(12-15) and skl(around 30 so that 1h chikage can do some decent damage as well)
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>>121487758
>what else am I going to put points into
nothing? your build is finished

if you don't plan on capping yourself why even ask for build advice?
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>>121487819
>Why don't you fuckers just take screenshots?
Because it's more work than just using a feature built into mugen specifically for sharing builds?

And just because I don't care about BL98 doesn't mean I don't care about BL. I like 116 and it's the last level in range of BL80.

>>121487941
I was thinking about skl, but I can't get it at a clean number.

>>121488061
because I do plan on capping, just not at a meta shitter level
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>>121488180
>I was thinking about skl, but I can't get it at a clean number.
assuming you don't care about tools, you could go:
50/12/10/35/50/9
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>>121488180
You're asking a weird question here.
I know I, for one, will probably be bumping my 98 up anyway if I want a weapon I don't meet the requirements for.

Hell, maybe 116 will be the new /bbg/ meta?
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>>121488624
I may end up going something similar to that. Maybe 38 skl because I'm completely fine with base or near base end.

>>121488721
I really just wanted to know if the AR from 13 levels in blt is worth it or if the scaling is too diminished. It seems the latter is the case.
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Question: If I put a BT gem into a gun that has Blood ATK UP etc, with the curse being 'Increases stamina cost 3%', does that effect my sword stamina at all even though the gem is only in a gun that doesn't even use stamina?
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>>121489075
I'm not sure, I just use bld atk up durability down gems or +5hp circles for my guns.
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>>121489075

It doesn't affect your actually weapon swings, only that particular weapon. Since guns don't actually consume stamina, it basically does nothing. Which, in this case, is a good thing.
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>>121489075
no, guns don't use stamina or durability, so neither of those curses have any effect
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>>121489005
>I really just wanted to know if the AR from 13 levels in blt is worth it or if the scaling is too diminished. It seems the latter is the case.
That's just a consensus here to not go past 50 unless you're going full Arc. If you don't know where else to put the points, it doesn't matter.

Play how u want.
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This is what my current "help people with Gascoigne" build looks like.

I was originally gonna go with either Cainhurst or Bone Ash, but I'm too fucking impatient to get gud to the point I can get either of the bosses required for those particular sets so I just went with the cainhurst knight set.
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>>121489842
You can probably help most people if you're 43
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>>121489842
Why BL15?
Waste of Skin BL4 can summon up to 24.
BL10 can summon up to 32.
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>>121490679
>>121490652
I have a build in 20~
I just went with basic requirements for ludwig's because I was doing too much damage at higher BL. The armor keeps the damage easily manageable if I get nicked by Gascoigne, and the damage I output is enough to be a lot of help but not so much that the host doesn't get to do anything.
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>>121491037
So then just use an ungemmed weapon? Scaling stats at that BL won't make you overpowered for gasman
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>>121491238
I am using an ungemmed weapon.

You can say it doesn't make you OP, but my experience has shown me otherwise, Its not like I'm arguing the point without trying it.

There's just no need to go above what I already have.
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18 days until my life isnt meaningless
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>>121491527
>18 months until Bloodborne 2
>same bullet in the same chamber, silently waiting
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Need help with witch of hemwick! At boss arena, pass fvg68 if anyone can help out? In NG with a new build
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>>121492071
sure
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>>121492071
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>>121492071
I'll come too
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NERF
SAW
SPEAR
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>>121492071
im standing outside the arena ringing
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>>121492482
>>121492071
been ringing in the stairwell for a while
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>>121492331
Nerf Rosmarinus
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Thanks so much for hemwick!
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>>121475337
>pucci
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Is there a more cancerous build in this game that Reiter/Evelyn? Can't seem to do anything against it, they just keep distance and gun spam you down.

You literally cannot even melee attack against them otherwise you'll be instantly parried by anyone with a brain.
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>>121493991
BMA repeater + Reiter with 50BT with backup chikage and blunderbuss ftw.

>literally cannot

wuh? sure you can, just be less predictable if you're tapping dat r1 too often
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>>121493991
>Cancerous
>Can literally be negated by the wooden shield
get gud bro.

Just wooden shield until they run out of bullets and blood vials from trying to spam blood bullets.
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>>121481157
>buffs Ludwig's
>claps after parrying the easiest weapon to parry in the game

Truly you are worthless
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>First playthrough, also first From game
>Buddy asks where I am
>Tell him I just found the shortcut back to the lamp in old Yharnam
>He laughs and says I'll quit the game very soon

Tell me straight guys, how fucked am I with BSB?
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Does anyone have a glyph with frc BSBs for flat blood damage? Don't see any in the op
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>>121494717
I was just about to post asking for a glyph like that, wanted to test flat blood gems for blunderbuss and ludwig rifle with 50 bt.

Does anyone heave benjie glyph for that easy ayyymissary that drops rocks and chunks?
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>>121494887
ptwrx6tb
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>>121494420
>isn't even ringing his own bell to make sure he can have his 30% hp advantage
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>>121487183
So am I. ;) you'll never know who I am though desu
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>>121492331
Both of the saws need nerfing along with the wheel. This is coming from someone who uses these weapons predominantly lately
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>>121494679
youre fine
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>>121492331
>>121495097
quiet down spoiled children

>>121492938
this
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>>121494420
What, you don't buff your weapons when you're able? Is this some kind of honourfag thing?

And it's not my fault BoMfags can't control their trigger finger m8.
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>>121495074
>gets parried
>subsequently jukeboxed
Your meme is mine
Forever
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Which weapon for an arcane build? I don't want to do LHB and I'm not too fond of the saw spear moveset.
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>>121494943
aymissary or does this have an enemy for flat blood atk?
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>>121495449
ayy
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>>121494679
BSB's not too bad. Remember you can parry using your gun, also dodging forward and to the left is pretty much a hard counter to every one of its moves
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>>121400802
Anyone else with this issue? It's happening to me now. If you're still here, Anon that had this problem, how did you fix it? I tried restarting the PS4 but it didn't do anything.
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>>121495225

>R1 spams in place even though you weren't close

The blades are such a fast, mobile weapon! Why didn't he move like a fucking ninja???
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>>121495434
Wheel, cane, or cleaver are your best bets
Axe works too
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>>121495580

Input spazz probably. He was planning on those R1s landing and there was too much lag between seeing that it wasn't going to happen and leaving off R1.
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>>121495297
Wait till I go anime on you, we'll see whos the memeking :)
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>>121495225
Lots of my builds are elemental, so rarely can I buff. Otherwise I really feel no need to when basically everything short of the Claws and the cane(with 27% gems) can kill an invader in 3-5 hits.

Using Ludwig's at all in a PvP encounter is questionable imho
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>>121495498
thanks
>>121494717
after some research, seems we just gotta get lucky with a bloodsucker in a frc dungeon for a good flat BT gem or try your luck at FRC BSB for a BT scaling with some flat attack up.
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>>121495851
I'm down to have another Friday mini-FC
for the last two weeks, impromptu FCs have lasted longer than regular Saturday FCs
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How do you think will the Bowblade work? If it costs bullets to shoot then how many bullets will be consumed per shot? If the bow uses not enough bullets then the game will become a joke because there are just so many great sniping positions.
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>>121495207
>quiet down spoiled children

Nah senpai getting half my health chunked by an untricked dash r1 at 45 VIT(as an invader) is silly
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>>121496320
gotta be more careful around DA WHEEL
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So how do you get droplets?
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>>121496292
I'm wondering what its tricked l2 does. In one of the offscreen videos somebody tried it, and it looked like a parry animation from DaS but using an arrow

Also bow only uses one bullet per arrow. You can also trigger the backstab stagger using a charged arrow which makes me hopeful for legitimate stealth setups lol
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new thread when?
>>121496664
mensis, nigga
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>>121496483
You really don't
Arc wheel dash R1 is fast and does great damage but it isn't nearly as easy to use as meme spear tricked dash R1
It covers essentially 180° in front of you so it's not uncommon to catch someone's dash and hit them for ~580 with counter damage
Not to mention the rest of the movest is actually useful, too
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>>121496483
Oh, I should've specified. I don't even mean the wheel, I can deal with it. But the saws are ridiculous
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>>121496320
see
>>121496904
its all good no nerf needed but the rosmarinus
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>>121496664
Should be able to farm rank 14 cursed droplets in Lower Hintertombs but from dun goofed
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>>121496904
>>121496951
I wonder how ya folks with saw spear anxiety will feel when saw scythe comes along.

I feel like from is being lazy throwing a saw scythe at us like that.
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>>121496997
see
>>121496951

Rosmarinus is weak as fuck without BMA though
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>>121497219
Bruh in my first post I said I use the Saws and wheel predominantly, anxiety is pretty far from my feelings about it.

Saw Scythe will be GOAT tho. No one ever talks about it but it'll likely be a monster. Predicting Axe-tier AR in transformed mode
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>>121495580
Ironically fighting someone who is actually good with BoM is pretty intense, it's just most are R1 spammers, and the fact that parrying is so fucking easy in this game.

>>121496071
>Using Ludwig's at all in a PvP encounter is questionable imho
I'd rate Saw Spear and Reiter over Ludwigs right now, and possibly Wheel in the hands of someone actually good with it. Ludwig has extreme damage in 2H form but it's easy as piss to counter.
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>>121494420
>Get ass invaded by a weapon
>Go online and bitch how its easy and insult people that use it

Classy, anon, remain anally devastated.
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>>121497802
What constitutes being good with BoM?
Hunter bone dash r1ing without being predictable?
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New >>121497914
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>>121497926
Not spamming dash R1 every single time, not spamming R1 in general, and actually using R2, L1 and switch.

Generally being unpredictable and trying not to show a specific pattern.
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