[Boards: 3 / a / aco / adv / an / asp / b / bant / biz / c / can / cgl / ck / cm / co / cock / d / diy / e / fa / fap / fit / fitlit / g / gd / gif / h / hc / his / hm / hr / i / ic / int / jp / k / lgbt / lit / m / mlp / mlpol / mo / mtv / mu / n / news / o / out / outsoc / p / po / pol / qa / qst / r / r9k / s / s4s / sci / soc / sp / spa / t / tg / toy / trash / trv / tv / u / v / vg / vint / vip / vp / vr / w / wg / wsg / wsr / x / y ] [Search | Extra juicy! | Home]

/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

This is a blue board which means that it's for everybody (Safe For Work content only). If you see any adult content, please report it.

Thread replies: 750
Thread images: 166

File: 1426889253049.jpg (2MB, 2001x2881px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1426889253049.jpg
2MB, 2001x2881px
We don't have an official steamgroup. If anyone posts in the thread about any "official" or not steamgroup, promising MP or not, be sure it's a shitposter group known for organizing raids and shitposting in the thread. They are known for false-flagging.
Report and ignore it

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, November 4th:
1780 – The Rebellion of Túpac Amaru II against Spanish rule in the Viceroyalty of Peru begins.
1791 – The Western Confederacy of American Indians wins a major victory over the United States in the Battle of the Wabash.
1798 – Beginning of the Russo-Ottoman siege of Corfu.
1852 – Camillo Benso, Count of Cavour becomes the prime minister of Piedmont-Sardinia, which soon expands to become Italy.
1921 – The Saalschutz Abteilung (hall defense detachment) of the Nazi Party is renamed the Sturmabteilung (storm detachment) after a large Saalschlacht (meeting hall battle) in Munich.


>News
HOI4 - DD 31
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/hearts-of-iron-iv-31st-development-diary-30th-of-october-2015.889096/

EU4 DD 22/10
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-dev-diary-october-22nd-2015.887930/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/


# Archive
https://mega.co.nz/#F!WZZFXDyT!yyb25ZuLdLs0B8vhoKS3LA

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[EU4] - BDSM
http://pastebin.com/vYbnKvK2

>>[CK2 - 2.4.3] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Liangmod V0.1
https://www.mediafire.com/?fm7kgwo9m83yqxu

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.1.7 - 20/08/2015
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.4
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V6
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Mish Mash Map Mod
https://mega.co.nz/#F!rItzBSoL!cRR-s9OTOJbJUht4hnAw3w

>>[HoI3] YAMDaM v0.54
http://www.mediafire.com/download/md4tzqe2gg6stfv/

Old thread >>121161069
>>
Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
>>
File: ENG_republic.png (2KB, 93x64px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ENG_republic.png
2KB, 93x64px
First for proper ENG_republic flag.
>>
File: lenin.png (134KB, 262x402px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
lenin.png
134KB, 262x402px
Reminder to first for the NICKY
>>
File: whole_greece_2.png (340KB, 3000x1426px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
whole_greece_2.png
340KB, 3000x1426px
>>
>>121259362
Oh god, the Tsar was cancerous but this is downright revolutionary
>>
1st for help me understand party loyalty mechanics and how US population growth works
>take california
>hold it
>still at ~2mil pop in 1890s
>>
7th for ULSTER ES BRETESH
>>
Woops, posted in wrong thread.

Rate muh world.
>>
>>121259282
Leave flagmaking to the pros, bub.

t. AFPguy
>>
>>121259176
>>121259282
>>121259362
>>121259382
>>121259465
>>121259486
>>121259589
>>121259671

Lads I need help.

Playing as Mexico, managed to take back all my cores from the US and force them to release the Cherokee, New England, and Columbia.

They still have a way bigger population than mine, and their army buildup is scaring me. They currently have ~80 brigades to my 55, and I'm pretty sure they'll have 200+ to my ~130 when we both mobilize. I know they're going to try to take back their cores soon. Do the US get specific immigration events or something?
>>
File: r_rating.jpg (24KB, 500x176px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
r_rating.jpg
24KB, 500x176px
>>121259671
>>
>>121259723
The way to defeat the US as Mexico is come and take it if you want it, come and take it if you think you can, come and take it if you want it, but you'll have to take it from my cold dead hands.
>>
>>121259697
It's actually pretty good tbf, lad. The 6 stars represent the 6 points of the people's charter.

>The People's Charter called for six reforms to make the political system more democratic:

>A vote for every man twenty-one years of age, of sound mind, and not undergoing punishment for a crime.
>The Secret Ballot – To protect the elector in the exercise of his vote.
>No Property Qualification for Members of Parliament – thus enabling the constituencies to return the man of their choice, be he rich or poor.
>Payment of Members, thus enabling an honest trades-man, working man, or other person, to serve a constituency; when taken from his business to attend to the interests of the country.
>Equal Constituencies, securing the same amount of representation for the same number of electors, instead of allowing small constituencies to swamp the votes of large ones.
>Annual Parliament Elections, thus presenting the most effectual check to bribery and intimidation, since as the constituency might be bought once in seven years (even with the ballot), no purse could buy a constituency (under a system of universal suffrage) in each ensuing twelvemonth; and since members, when elected for a year only, would not be able to defy and betray their constituents as now.
>>
>>121259723
Should have permanently occupied them in your last winning war. Has the Civil War fired yet? Dick them then.
>>
File: yoo rofl.jpg (42KB, 503x430px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
yoo rofl.jpg
42KB, 503x430px
Links for VeF download? pls
>>
>>121260264
I'm not shitposting, I only want the link :(
>>
>>121259723
>someone copied my mexico question and is now spamming it
For what purpose
>>
>>121260506
I know, right? In my day they'd have just told you to git gud.
>>
>>121260506
Shitposters. The latest way they try to shit things up is by repearting somethign and spamming it
>>
Ck2 first time, how do I make sure the transition from my 80 y/o ruler to my 30 y/o son is as smooth as possible? Save money so I can gift everyone and raise opinion?
>>
>>121260635
I fugged up and had a truce with the USA so I couldnt help the CSA.
>>
What a great thread.
>>
>>121261559
If you have vassals that are children, have your heir educate them.
>>
>>121261717
Cringe
>>
File: WAKE ME UP INSIDE.jpg (18KB, 400x400px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
WAKE ME UP INSIDE.jpg
18KB, 400x400px
One of my ck2 games freezes the 19th of march x year (not sure which), every single time I play.

Is there any way I can fix this or are all these years just lost in time like tears etc?
>>
>>121261717
>>121261813
I was being serious, I did my first game as Wessex in 769 Charlemagne start, 30 years later my king dies and my vassal relations are less than 20, some negative. How do I make a good transition?
>>
>>121261776
how much RAM you have
>>
Rate my Italy
>>
>>121262184
no
>>
>>121262184
perfect
>>
>>121250437
I thought about it. Some people are in favor of it, some people are not. It's kinda complicated, and it has its own problems. So I didn't make a decision on it yet.

>>121258858
No, the game only models ruling party support via modifiers as the game runs.
>>
>crusader kings 2
>have been breeding my courters for centuries
>king dies
>heir is hated
>give land to my spymaster because he has 30 in intrigue and hates my guts
>he rebels, beat my army and executes me
>leaves the game
>uninstall
I'm just bad at these. I'll just keep playing SupCom and FPS from now on. I mean, it's obvious the game doesn't want me to play.

And since DPS doesn't do grand strategy, I can't even mock him.
>>
>/gsg/
>have been reporting my shitposts for centuries
>HPM dies
>shitposts is hated
>give land to my shitpostmaster because he has 30 in reporting and ignores my guts
>he shitposts, beat my reports and ignores me
>reports the game
>uninstall
I'm just bad at these. I'll just keep playing SupCom and FPS from now on. I mean, it's obvious the game doesn't want me to play.

And since DPS doesn't do grand strategy, I can't even mock him.
>>
Reminder that HPM thinks all American slaves were master marksmen with college segrees
>>
>>121262553
>give land to my spymaster because he has 30 in intrigue and hates my guts

wtf why
>>
>>121262764
To make him happy. I had no money at all.
>>
Will pops convert to craftsmen in Victoria 2 even if there is no factory in their province?
>>
>>121263014
They're broke in their old job.
>>
Good to see this general is still shit.
>>
>>121263161
And you're not helping. Discuss /gsg/
>>
>>121263161
What are you talking about? The posts actually seem to be on topi for once, and there's only 45 posts
>>
>starts a CKII game as duke of ireland
>WITHIN THE FIRST YEAR, I have a revolt from a vassal, a faction that want to overthrown me, and a scottish lord forging claims on me
What a fucking retarded piece of shit game. How am I supposed to win if I can't even get started?
>>
>go to report a post
>fill out captcha
>post doesn't exist anymore
You've earned your hotpockets today janny
>>
File: 1442335941095.png (629KB, 1003x681px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1442335941095.png
629KB, 1003x681px
>Come in thread
>about 3/4 of the posts are deleted

It's one of those days, huh
>>
I'm playing Austria in Victoria 2 (HPM) and I'm planning on forming Germany (and therefore on releasing all of my non-core territories). Is it worth building factories in these territories early on?
>>
>>121263443
The starting dukes are sort of all ass in Ireland. That will happen a lot. Generally speaking factions won't bother you much as a small country, so focus on getting kids and allies to ward off the scot
>>
>>121262314
After beating up Russia I often see Sweden retaking it's cores and freeing and then annexing Finland only to abandon claims. Shouldn't there be some check so they can't do it when they own Finnish cores? Further, Åland shouldn't be affected by the abandon decision at all and should instead be based around https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%85land_crisis where you can press or give up claims.
>>
>>121263443
Oh you seem have forgotten to git gud
>>
>>121263585
But I've been told that Ireland was beginner's island.
And how can I get rid of factions? Unlike intrigues, I can't just ask the guy to stop doing whatever he does.
>>
>>121263539
No desu
>>
>>121263686
Faction members can be dissuaded by using your Spymaster on the, iirc, Scheme mission in thier capital. A good spymaster will keep everyone out, though once you get big enough it's best to focus on superdukes and other such big vassals.

Ireland IS tutorial island, in the sense that it's typically hard to get completely facerolled. Most people don't bother Ireland much, so it's a good place to get grips on the mechanics of the game and make your first kingdom. You'll get the hand of it.
>>
>>121263539
>giving up clay
As Grossest Grossgermaniums just ignore infamy.
>>
>>121263906
Ha, okay. Thanks.

I tried Scotland once because "scottish vassals are very loyal". Got a revolt against me in my first year.
>>
>>121263686
>And how can I get rid of factions?

make faction members/leaders like you more. Give them shit like honorary titles or just send your chancellor to suck their dicks
>>
>>121263814
Why is that the case?
>>121263973
I'm pretty sure that HPM makes it impossible for me to form Germany without releasing my non-cored territories.
>>
>>121262314
Decided to start a Vietnam game but I really don't know what flavor they have at all, including the basegame events, could you give me a hand HPM? Do I get to diplo annex Cambodia? Does Luana Probang just sit there? What flavor do I get once I civilize? Are there any scripted wars?
>>
Hotpockets are on fire today
>>
>>121264015
>send your chancellor to suck their dicks
You mean trying to trigger that event that has a 10% chance of appearing per year?

I really prefer EU4's system.
>>
>>121263976
I've found you'll usually get a revolt early game, and generally one every new ruler you go on as the New Ruler opinion malus pisses everyone off.

Fighting a less than fun war can also cause vassal revolts, especially with factions. A good part of their decision making is based on comparisons of their cumulative levy vs yours. If your whole levy is destroyed, expect trouble.
>>
>>121262314
Hey HPM, here's a handy set of maps of Australia during the victorian period http://www.qhatlas.com.au/node/853/zoomify
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYsfl1YSQJI

Reminder that Byzantium will be restored one day
>>
>>121264203
its not like you need him elsewhere, fabricating claims takes even longer and sowing dissent is useless
>>
>>121264213
Urgh. So I'm going to spend a lot of my early game time waiting for money to buy mercenaries.
>>
>>121264060
When having Austria in your sphere when you form Germany there's an event for them where they can join you with their entire empire for 40 infamy. The chance of them taking that option is very low though. There's an event for you as Austria or KuK that triggers if you are in a position to form Germany and still have non-cores. I haven't done it but I imagine it would be similar to the first.
>>
>>121264261
Indeed, Thermopylae can be repeated with modern weaponry.
>>
>>121264060
Why would you? Building no factories would leave thousands of educated, unemployed craftsmen and clerks on Hungary and other uncored provinces. This will force them to migrate to Austria propper, which means you'll have a far more industrialized Österreich, capable of competing industrially with the rest of the German states. Overall, by doing this, Austria will be more densely populated and educated.
>>
>>121264351
Unfortunately a lot of it can boil down to this. It depends a lot on how strong your neighbours are. Make sure to pay attention to when they're fighting wars, and if they can win them.
If you haven't seen it already, the character screen will show you their levy, and a breakdown of how much is theirs and how much is their vassals. Picking on new rulers can be useful since they get less troops, especially if they have low martial. Lots of things to consider.
>>
File: 1445626331079(2).png (81KB, 489x627px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1445626331079(2).png
81KB, 489x627px
>>121264114
>Vietnam
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00001.jpg (415KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00001.jpg
415KB, 1366x768px
Why can he only raise a max of 71 when it says 356 next to it? I understand why I can have 12 of the 71 but why is it not of 356 instead?
>>
>>121263590
You are right, I will add a check so they don't abandon it if they own any finnish cores.
About the Aland islands, I will do something about it when I put the crisis in.

>>121264114
I didn't touch them at all. The French will try to war you and there's a dispute over Cambodia, but I can't help you much, sorry.

>>121264237
Thanks!
>>
>>121264384
Thanks. I'm looking at the mod files now and that appears to be the case. Are you sure it's worth holding onto all those provinces rather than releasing them? Not only do they tend to have low literacy, but releasing them would give me a combined -26 infamy.
>>121264461
I figured as much, thanks.
>>
Whats the best way to make a secondary power into a fascist great power?:
>>
>>121259382
fuck that autism
>>
File: 1437610893173.jpg (3MB, 2443x3564px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1437610893173.jpg
3MB, 2443x3564px
Howdy, Germanic servants! Check it out, I'm made of gold!

t. Charlemagne
>>
>>121266331
[servile instinct intensifies]
>>
>>121265093
anyone help?
>>
>>121266862
Because he holds part of the troops to himself, he's not obliged to provide everything
>>
People need to recognize one thing about HoI3's Black Ice mod.

It's not completely shit. It's mostly shit, but there are some very interesting unique mechanics that should be Incorporated a mod like HPP.

1. The unique divisional build system that allows for more varied, interesting divisional units that more closely resemble their real life counterparts.

2. A more comprehensive tech and unit makeup, albeit with a need for some greater trade offs built in that force players to make real choices.

These things above should be incorporated into HPP, as well as updated versions of Francesco's models.

Then all we would need is additional strategic military, economic, and political decisions tailored to major and semi-major nations with potential for branching, dynamic paths. Keep in mind by this I do not mean utter sandbox, but paths that have been considered and discussed and formulated through well-researched histories and analyses.

With this, we would have the ultimate hearts of iron game.
>>
File: 1428047785856.jpg (13KB, 175x210px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1428047785856.jpg
13KB, 175x210px
>>121266331
It is amazing indeed. Gold is a very valuable commodity. I have no choice but to submit to my servile instincts and become your vassal. I didn't have any plans for independence or world relevance, by the way
>>
>>121265553
Hey HPM friend, something's fucked up with Shitaly's unification. AS France, I let Sard. P form Shitaly after getting Nice and the other 2 french provinces from them. When they formed italy, I took the option giving me a free people CB on them to free Tuscany and fuck them over for a while. However, the cores disappeared a day later, making the CB and brief one day war useless. Is that intended?
>>
>>121266331
>>121267143
I never understand this meme
>>
People need to recognize one thing about HoI3's Black Ice mod.

It's not completely shit. It's mostly shit, but there are some very interesting unique mechanics that should be Incorporated a mod like HPP.

1. The unique divisional build system that allows for more varied, interesting divisional units that more closely resemble their real life counterparts.

2. A more comprehensive tech and unit makeup, albeit with a need for some greater trade offs built in that force players to make real choices.

These things above should be incorporated into HPP, as well as updated versions of Francesco's models.

Then all we would need is additional strategic military, economic, and political decisions tailored to major and semi-major nations with potential for branching, dynamic paths. Keep in mind by this I do not mean utter sandbox, but paths that have been considered and discussed and formulated through well-researched histories and analyses.

With this, we would have the ultimate hearts of iron game.
>>
>>121264261
what are you? fucking autistic?
1) turkey is fucking stronger than greece
2) there is no kurdish genocide unless you believe that pkk communist propaganda, there has been 2 kurdish PMs in turkish history
3) "turkey is not recognized as islamic religion by arabs" even though it was the last legitimate caliphate for the last decades
4) greece never destroyed the ottoman empire (uk, russia and france did) and turkey won much more wars against greece than is mentioned in that autistic video (greco-turkish war of 1897, turkish war of independence (even though the video says it was a "turkish defeat"))
5) the video says turkey always attacks at greece's weakest moments even though in 1919 greece invaded turkey (who was getting divided by colonial powers, had a terrible food crisis, was fighting armenia, france and various revolts at the same time) and still got their ass handed to them
6) greece would never push that far into turkey! have any of you autists ever been to turkey? an army like greece's pushing into central anatolia will just be like anyone attacking siberia in the fucking winter
7) "the turkish police wear the double-head eangle". the idiots didn't even spell eagle right but the double-headed eagle the turkish police use is the seljuk eagle.
i can't stand watching the rest of that autistic video without fucking cringing but you autists need to realize something. BYZANTINES WILL NEVER RETURN! greece is running by fucking communists and can't even pay fucking debts. so get leave your autistic dreams to your games and stop crying over a shitty empire that has been dead for ages now
>>
>>121267463
t.turkish
>>
>>121266331
>>121267143
Can someone link the original video?
>>
I believe the janitor has arrived
>>
>>121267431
>>121268047
https://youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
>>
>>121267463
go back to mongolia fucking barbarian
>>
File: johan.jpg (752KB, 1680x1050px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
johan.jpg
752KB, 1680x1050px
So this is what /gsg/ has become. I guess its fitting.

As goes Paradox, so goes /gsg/. Degradation and a general dumbing down of the user base.
>>
>>121267168
Did they integrate Tuscany, is that it?
>>
>>121268640
thanks lad
>>
>>121269194
It was a great power Sar. who held Lombardy and fired the decision that gave them that one northern state from the Pope, Tuscany, and that one state divided by 2 Austrian spherelings, Emily I think. They then took a few years to sphere Two Sicilies and the Pope. The entire time Tuscany's cores remained. I think it was an event fired from Itaty uniting that deleted the cores, but it fired immediately, not letting an outside power use the free people CB they get.
>>
>>121269552
>he thinks indo-europeans originated in India
t*rkish education folks
>>
Why are the best games plagued with the worst generals?
>>
>>121270303
>best games
>parakeks shit
Hello reddit!
>>
>>121270425
Thanks for proving my point, shitposter.
>>
Is it worth taking a 40 infamy hit to keep all of Austria's non-German territories when I form Grossdeutschland or should I just release them all for -26 infamy?
>>
>>121270303
Even with all the shitposting, /gsg/ is still one of the best generals here.

At least we don't have tripfags
>>
>>121270506
No problem, now go kill yourself.
>>121270515
Follow your heart, lad. GERMANIUM MUST BE GROß!
>>
>>121270259
i was actually told by a hindu nationalist from india that all indo-europeans come from india
>>
>>121259960
It's a shit flag.

Chartism was a pretty neat movement for its time though. Why was it literally never mentioned at school, I wonder?
>>
>>121269194
I've said before and I'll say again Italy needs a malus to combat.

If you think this is unfair to them consider the fact you give Japan a bonus to organisation, I believe it's called "order of the rising sun" or something, well Italy should get a "poor leadership" malus, it simply makes no sense that Italy, a nation that has failed militarily through every single war they've ever been in should be on par with the rest of Europe.
>>
>>121259282
Its a nice flag but I don't see whats English about it. It looks like the flag of a Caribbean/South American shithole run by shekel merchants.
>>
>>121270812
Explain why it's a shit flag.

These are the specifications for a good flag:

>Keep It Simple. The flag should be so simple that a child can draw it from memory…
[]

>Use Meaningful Symbolism. The flag’s images, colors, or patterns should relate to what it symbolizes…
[]

>Use 2 or 3 Basic Colors. Limit the number of colors on the flag to three which contrast well and come from the standard color set…
[]

>No Lettering or Seals. Never use writing on any kind or an organization’s seal…
[]

>Be Distinctive or Be Related. Avoid duplicating other flags, but use similarities to show connections…
[]


Please explain to me what is bad about this flag. It's not meant to be a union jack, it's meant to be a new flag of a new government that has nothing to do with the old one.
>>
>>121271216
It's not meant to look English, if it looked English it would look like the old order's flag, that is exactly what chartists wanted an end to. The six points represent the six points of the charter, the colours were used by the chartists, it's a good flag.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00002.jpg (444KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00002.jpg
444KB, 1366x768px
My first game, should this be happening?
>>
>>121271483
>charlememe start date
Yes
>>
>>121271481
Calm down, I said it was good. I just didn't know the meaning
>>
>>121271530
I wanted to unite England for a first game as Wessex, but I never finish my games on V2 anyway so this won't be any different. I don't care if endgame looks awful because I'll never reach it.
>>
>>121270613
Memes aside, do you really think its worth 40 infamy to keep those territories (66 when you consider the infamy I'd lose by releasing them) , especially when they have such low literacy?
>>
>>121271339
The red and green triangles look super weird. Tricolours were the hot shit in the 19th century, not triangles
>>
>>121271578
Everybody is calling my flag shit, I worked hard on that flag. :(
>>
>>121271483
Yes, but this speaks to a critical flaw, the ability of hordes/muslims, etc to 'invade' kingdoms that don't exist.
>>
>>121271681
Tricolours were also plain as shit, plus I needed a big open space to put the ring of stars.
>>
HPM could you reshape poland so the borders of 1943 are possible?
>>
>>121269656
Oh, so you were supposed to get the free people CB because they didn't return Nice, but you didn't because of the unification.

>>121271048
And the answer from last time didn't change.
>>
>>121271483
what map mod are you using?
>>
>>121271716
Its better than the last republic one you had
>>
>>121271716
Its quite good and now I know the meaning it suites. Are you making a mod for it?
>>
>Women in History
>The DLC is named as 'Politically Correct Edition' in Steam's database[2], and includes some changes in event text like replacing He is... with They are... to reflect gramatically presence of women characters in the game.
>>
>>121271951
Novus Graphicus
>>121271738
Also orthodoxy immediately turned hereitic in 770 and was replaced by Iconoclast. Is this normal?
>>
>>121271887
By the way, I thought of a way you can make a two party system, at least in the US.

Make all the states that historically voted republican (the north) start with a shit tonne of loyalty to them and make all the states that historically voted democrat (the south) start with a shit tonne of loyalty to them.

Also, the South should get events that massively increase reactionary loyalty (Southern Democrats) from 1850 onwards.
>>
>>121271483
just restart lad, you will not last 7 centuries before you get bored and delete the game

and play a later start
>>
>>121272015
It's not ahistorical, I'm going to show it to AFPG and hope he uses it, but I haven't seen him in days.
>>
>>121272448
Why is there such a stigma around charlemagne start? Is it just because it ends up looking really ahistorical? I mean the game spans 800 years so it's not like it could stay historical past the 200th
>>
>>121272320
That would work, albeit only for a time as it would wear off in time. But I have no problem with the states starting with the ideological loyalty they had historically..
>>
>>121272170

>representing women
>not representing trans, genderfluid, pan, otherkin person

Paradox is racist and sexist
>>
>>121272628
Not only is it really ahistorical, it's mostly implausible with giant blobs of reformed Germanics and German culture stretching from Brittany to the Volga or Norsemen in Central Asia or the Byzantine Emperor converting to Tengrism.
>>
>>121272630
Will you do that then?
>>
>>121272819
what makes 1066 any better?
>>
>>121271983
The Japanese christmas one?
>>
>>121271646
Dude, they are like colonies you have a continuous border with and can build factories in, its totally worth it. And since as Germany you can justify blobbing, go for it.
Sorry for the late reply, I got timed out.
>>
>>121271873
Top fucking kek lad.
>>
>>121271873
Not really worried about WW2 borders, so there isn't a good chance I will do it.

>>121272848
Yesm as soon as I find a good map of the votes.
>>
>>121272278
Yes. Unless you're MegaCampaignLad, Charlememe start is a bad time.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00009.jpg (428KB, 1680x1050px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00009.jpg
428KB, 1680x1050px
What a disgusting scramble
>>
>>121273094
1066 has mild to moderate memeing, charlie is just full blown memeing.
>>
>>121273512
Belgium doesn't get the Congo often enough, why is this and what do you intend to do about it?
>>
File: v2_43.png (1MB, 1280x800px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
v2_43.png
1MB, 1280x800px
>tfw CSA won
Feels good man
>>
>>121273920
>that map mod

feels cancerous lad

How did you even do that?
>>
>>121273094
pagan AI can't ruin as much
>>
File: oWqdadl.jpg (63KB, 650x461px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
oWqdadl.jpg
63KB, 650x461px
groß austriums
groß germaniums
>>
>>121274216
>venice not australian

shit map to be honest
>>
>>121273512
HPM plz give Bukhara and Kokand names for when they communist or democracy because even if they're a republic or proletarian dictatorship they still have names like "Kokand Khanate" and "Bukhara Emirate"
>>
>>121274004
I just changed the water and fixed some ghost lakes in MMMM
>>
>>121273876
I want to redo the Congo Conference, not only Belgium would get it though.

>>121274592
I will give them neutral names.
>>
>>121274857
1. What are you currently doing?

2. What is the last thing you've done?

3. When will the next version come out?

4. WESTRALIA WEN CUNT
>>
>>121273512
The problem with this is that it'll cause the Civil War political structure to look vastly different than it should unless additional events are added in.

I agree it should be done, but you'll need to do an event for the '40s which knocks up jingoism (either that or add a 5% increase to jingoism for Yankees and a 10% increase to jingoism for Dixies when the M-A war starts) and probably an event for the early '50s which starts turning most Dixie and Texan POPs strongly reactionary, as the other anon suggested. The South was so reactionary before the Union collapsed it was ludicrous, and already that's not well-represented.

t. CSAnon
>>
>>121275169
>>121273512
Is it not possible to give them party loyalty through sporadic events?
>>
>>121274857
Who else are you thinking besides Belgium?
>>
File: 1286571915700.jpg (32KB, 400x400px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1286571915700.jpg
32KB, 400x400px
>>121274216
>that France
>>
>>121272320
>>121275169
Literally asking for "Wickedness must be stamped out"
>>
>>121275426
I don't think they should have party loyalty after the start. The loyalty should fade gradually and should shift to voting based on ideology, as is usual for the Vicky engine. If it's kept based on loyalty throughout the entire game, it's much less subject to any partial divergence.

The only thing that would really need to be done to keep America in a state of flux and uncertainty--which is what the political situation was from '44-'60--is the general increase in expansionist (especially Southern expansionist) tendencies and the push to keep slavery. National jingoism bonuses in the '40s and huge reactionary boosts to Dixie pops in the '50s can simulate that fine, and then after that POP ideologies can be left to circumstance again.
>>
>>121275619
I don't think a single event in the '40s and a single event in the '50s related to ideology is quite equivalent to the current event spam that is Wickedness, anon.
>>
File: 1436662042408.gif (118KB, 480x270px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1436662042408.gif
118KB, 480x270px
>>121260195
>>
>>121275775
>If it's kept based on loyalty throughout the entire game, it's much less subject to any partial divergence.

You just described the US political system since 1776.
>>
>>121276182
how about buy the game you fucking CRIMINAL SCUM
>>
>>121276386
>>hurrdurr americans
>im this edgy
>>
>>121260195
>>121276182
Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
>>
File: whats this.png (679KB, 616x463px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
whats this.png
679KB, 616x463px
>>121274216
>German Britain
>Austrian Ireland
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00003.jpg (409KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00003.jpg
409KB, 1366x768px
I've had this chucklefuck at 137% plot power since 780, in that time there were 2 failed kill attempts. I swear I should find him dead within a few weeks of getting 100%?
>>
>>121276603
>someone else says 'chucklefuck'
YES
>>
Do I need all dlcs to use HIP?
>>
>>121276895
Yes.

Make sure you've bought them all as well, pirated versions don't work.
>>
File: HeyGirls.png (780KB, 730x720px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
HeyGirls.png
780KB, 730x720px
I regret ever making this on that fateful day
>>
>>121276895
Of course you silly goyim.
>>
>>121277039
why are you lying to me senpai
>>
/his/ tried to do a ck2 mp yesterday.
It failed miserably because of paradox' net code.
>>
>>121276489
I'm not meming lad, infact you're denying the US is a two party system, you're the meme.
>>
>>121274974
Going through notes of recent and old reports/suggestions,

Last thing I did was what >>121274592 said.

No ETA, sorry. I will try to push itsoon since there's quite a bit of fixes.

>>121275426
No, it's impossible. I can only make them support the ruling party, that's it.

>>121275515
European nation with less than 5 infamy, non colonial and with ports and/or secondary power would be able to call for the conference. Not some fixed nations,just a requirement to argue that the Congo should be yours.

>>121275169
It's just party loyalty. Wouldn't affect ideology much.
About the issues, I know it's something complicated. The way paradox does it to avoid a fixed date for the ACW is the event spam. It also regulates and distributes moralism. It works, but it's spammy. The only thing keeping me from scrapping the current system and doing a new one is that I didn't come up with a satisfactory solution for all these problems that don't involve event spam or a bomb of moralism/jingoism in one event.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00001.jpg (508KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00001.jpg
508KB, 1920x1080px
>Genociding a millions of Chinese sub-humans in my treaty ports.

Feels good man.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00004.jpg (394KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00004.jpg
394KB, 1366x768px
So do I make my own Kingdom or wait until I can create the Kingdom of England?
>>
>>121278546
Show your GroBFrancium, lad.
>6th place military
>100/154
Why?
>0/6
WHY?
>>
Anyone of you here play still this game?I was always trying to blend in but always ended up deleting it and giving it reinstal after some time.
I was pretty fine with Europe Universals,Hearts of Iron even CK2.But many things in Vic2 i dont get it.
>How to prevent frucking rebels
>What about factories/where to build them and maintain + useful notes overal
>What are good things do with province population and such and micro menagment
>Good army stacks and overal tips welcomed
>>
>>121278854
Create the kingdom of Southern Britain.

Fuck the police
>>
File: v2_44.png (1MB, 1280x800px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
v2_44.png
1MB, 1280x800px
>tfw discovered the source of Nile
Epic...
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00002.jpg (509KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00002.jpg
509KB, 1920x1080px
>>121278870
I haven't had the need to build military lately, and most of those are non-french scum, waiting to be genocided pretty soon. As for the NF's, I'm kind of lost as to what to use them for, as I'm already at 4% int. in every state. Waiting till fascism arrives I guess. And yes, Rhineland's my puppet.

Rest of Africa next.
>>
>>121260195
>>121276182
You owe me for this one cocksucker.
https://mega.nz/#!rYpTmC6K!6P8JLILwWQtzAZCuEcZkAxhVmS3Dfnz9TZFz-Uizbxo
>>
>>121278207
>The only thing keeping me from scrapping the current system and doing a new one is that I didn't come up with a satisfactory solution for all these problems that don't involve event spam or a bomb of moralism/jingoism in one event.
I don't think there is another way, unless you just set it by date and let the ideology be damned. Hell, even the ideology-bombs have their own issues, as their firing, at least, will be set by date. And since it'd all come in one clump, it'd probably interfere with a "natural" Civil War anyway.

I don't know. It's a difficult question. The best way to do it, especially considering the eventual 1815 start, would likely be a combination of situation AND ideology. The Civil War started for a variety of reasons, but the most important was the perception that the South was being "hemmed in," both territorially and politically. Whether the Mexican-American war happened, and whether those states were made slave states, would have a major bearing on tensions in the South. So too would the outcome of the Missouri Compromise, the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska act. and the victory or failure of the Republican party.

Perhaps a moderate solution could be made, and ideological changes could be bound alongside major policy decisions/events in America. Passage of the Missouri Compromise would reduce militancy in the South but increase Dixie conservative/reactionary support simultaneously. Annexation of the Mexican territories would reduce militancy and make reactionary Dixies more conservative (reduce their extremism). Hmm. I don't know how ideal that would be, either, but it would reduce the total number of events and reduce ideological changes which could precipitate the war to actual historical events which affected the tenor of the times.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00003.jpg (429KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00003.jpg
429KB, 1920x1080px
>>121279491
I may have had a hand at some colonial exchanges,but Portugal going south of Angola was all their doing.
>>121279287
Here's mine
>>
>>121278207
Oh, ever since the texas cores got reworked, you can get a weird thing where if CSA revolts before Texas loses it's grosstexas cores, CSA will get all the states going up to Wyoming where texas has a core, when really it should only get the small bits of provinces where texas has cores and the rest of the state should stay with the US. I hope that makes sense
>>
>>121279491
>GroBBavariums that isn't just SGF
how?
>>
>>121279062
>>How to prevent frucking rebels
You don't, any gov't you have people will be rebelling, jacobites, gommies, fascists. That's just Parakeks and their shitty game design.
>>What about factories/where to build them and maintain + useful notes overal
Look up the industry guide in the archive in the OP. Basically build shit that there's not enough in the world (mostly liquor) and subsidize them all the time if you can. Although laissez faire can be pretty good for big, stable economies like the USA.
>>What are good things do with province population and such and micro menagment
Leave it alone. Use you National Focus to encourage intellectuals/clergy to get more research points and literacy growth. Then just encourage craftsman or something.
>>Good army stacks and overal tips welcomed
4GUA (can be INF) 4ART 1ENG 1HUS as a general, quick response stack. 4ART 1ENG 1HUS to be filled with mobilized INF.
>>121279491
Pretty shit, my France was much better.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00011.jpg (442KB, 1680x1050px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00011.jpg
442KB, 1680x1050px
Lebenstraum acquired
>>
CRASHING THIS SULTANATE WITH NO SURVIVORS
>>
>>121279752
That's a sexy French Africa
>>
>>121270812

I studied the chartists in school desu
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00004.jpg (452KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00004.jpg
452KB, 1920x1080px
>>121279752
I'm going for the tech for the Siam border treaty the moment i can.
>>121279897
Since I have that puppet Rhineland, the NGF couldn't form. So German Patriots have been rising up for years now. Baden and the other S. German state had been under rebel occupation for nearly a decade, so I sphered all three, gave the land to Bavaria, then let Austria-Hungary and Prussia fight over it. I reasoned that since there was no German federation to become a part of, the rebels might have wanted a southern one with Bavaria.
>>121280013
I...I just wanted a comfy France game with Frenchmen replacing natives around the world
>>121280246
Thank you. I'm loving Portugal's gains. maximum comfy desu.
>>
File: Qld_teaT02.jpg (188KB, 1348x899px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Qld_teaT02.jpg
188KB, 1348x899px
>>121280073
Well you got the only lebensraum that matters
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00005.jpg (399KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00005.jpg
399KB, 1920x1080px
>>121280489
Here's the rest of French Pacific. Not shown was the few Caribbean islands, and St. Pierre
>>
File: laughing castro.png (83KB, 290x162px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
laughing castro.png
83KB, 290x162px
>>121280571
>most considerate flies
>>
File: 14128789825.png (220KB, 500x684px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
14128789825.png
220KB, 500x684px
>>121279575
I'm veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery grateful, lad. Many thanks :D
>>
>>121280489
>comfy France
Yeah, and managing troops from all those colonies is not comfy. My comfy France owned almost the everything north of the equator in Africa.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00006.jpg (456KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00006.jpg
456KB, 1920x1080px
>>121280817
All of my armies are French, born and raised, with those 2 Special Forces groups being the most experienced, due to swarms of china men
>>
>>121280571
>towel
>all that print
useless
>>
>>121280729
>That image
too soon
>>
>>121281129
>not using millions of niggers for The Final Big Push in a great war
>not bathing Europe in the negro blood as Napoopan 3.0
baka desu senpai
>>
>>121281468
It also hurts me but it's just too good of a reaction image.
>>
File: 1444780562135.jpg (22KB, 480x480px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1444780562135.jpg
22KB, 480x480px
>>121281129
>tfw non Rhine frontier
>>
File: qiqbyv.jpg (3MB, 1944x2592px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
qiqbyv.jpg
3MB, 1944x2592px
I did it /gsg/...
>>
>>121281919
I refuse to believe that's authentic.
>>
>>121281919
??
>>
File: Byzantine.png (3MB, 1536x864px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Byzantine.png
3MB, 1536x864px
My Byzantine in EU 4.Not bad for second play.
Too much time passed and i fucked myself over ideas but i keep going.
>It has wierd shape as fuck
>>
>>121282064
1938 copy senpai
>>
>>121282553
Post a timestamp that says "t. Mosley Meme" or else you're talking shit
>>
File: 1446414859867.jpg (107KB, 612x642px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1446414859867.jpg
107KB, 612x642px
>>121282293
What possessed you to spawn this monstrosity?
>>
>>121282553
One question: How?
>>
File: image.jpg (42KB, 820x461px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
image.jpg
42KB, 820x461px
>>121282293
>Breton Sibir
>>
>>121282293

Jesus Christ son, what's wrong with you?
>>
File: gpnafm.jpg (3MB, 1944x2592px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
gpnafm.jpg
3MB, 1944x2592px
>>121282668
Your wish is my command

>>121282736
Just gotta know where to look
>>
>>121282293
>Byzantine Arkhangelsk but no Jerusalem or Alexandria

for what purpose
>>
>>121283397

M O S L E Y
O
S
L
E
Y
>>
>>121283397
>timestamped for 7 months ago
>Made-up "General Mountain Time" time zone (it's just "MT' dumbass.)
Yeah, whatever. Fuck off, shitposter.
>>
>>121283397
Shit handwriting. What are you, 12?
>>
>>121283397
wew
/gsg/ does it again
>>
>>121283643
>be american
>get shot
>>
>>121283646
it was a shit pen and surface, honest
>>
Complete the best CK2 modpack, all compatible:

CK2+
Anime Face Pack
My Personal Castle
>>
File: 1446242072577.jpg (200KB, 1024x1024px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1446242072577.jpg
200KB, 1024x1024px
>>121282293
>all that useless northern land
>No Levant
>barely any of southern Italy

kill yourself
>>
>>121283397
Classic /gsg/
>>
>>121283657
>>121283971
stop
>>121283643
haha you got him bro!!!!1!
>>
>>121283471
That is on list to do right after i annex Novogord + Cummans.
There are pretty much bunch of wierd alliances all around so i gotta be carefull.
Georgia is my march and Carianthia,Mughals and Najd allies which will help to completely rape these Selejuk for once.They go on my nerves since start.Also Poland is trouble.They got few of 80-120 unit stacks.Blob nation worse then fucking France.
>>
>>121267083
>1. The unique divisional build system that allows for more varied, interesting divisional units that more closely resemble their real life counterparts.

No this is retarded, because the Combined Arms system forces you to make stupid shit just because it gives combined arms. e.g. putting fucking marines in every division, even ones that aren't going to be doing anything near rivers or water, just because it boosts the stats of EVERYTHING in the division by 15% or something.

>2. A more comprehensive tech and unit makeup, albeit with a need for some greater trade offs built in that force players to make real choices.
Except that BlackICE gives you huge amounts of leadership to research basically everything important anyway. All it does is fuck over minors with limited leadership even more than vanilla did.
>>
>>121283892
It wasnt my goal to get Italy this game.Wanted to expand on east and colonies.Will take Selejuk for sake of trade but my goal are Liao and neighbours.Europe and rest will be PU and wrecked later.Bunch of small contries so...Thats why i keep France as ally anyway.
>>
>>121282553
>>121281919
Anyone care to tell me what the fuck this is and why I should be excited for it?
>>
>>121283890
>CK2+
Literally shit
The best mod pack is objectively HIP + Torturepack/Torturemod + VIET Music
>>
>>121284476
>I lack reading comprehension.
>>
>>121284780
what about Anime Face Mod
>>
>>121284943
good if you're a faggot weeb
>>
I recently came back to CK2 after not playing it for years but I can't help but notice that the game runs absolutely awful now. It always slowed down after playing for a few hundred years but that stuttery slowdown is already here at the start of the game now. I dread to think what it would be like later.

Are there any settings or mods that help with this or is my only option getting a better computer?
>>
>>121283892
post more Кoт with Cмeтaнa
have this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHakm25yMZo
>>
File: 1446240638915.jpg (97KB, 800x800px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1446240638915.jpg
97KB, 800x800px
>>121285378
ok lad
>>
>>121284943
I don't like it but also don't hate it. But by far the most diverse, realistic and immersive portrait mod is CPR+. Even the Tocharians get their own portraits and skin color.
>>
>>121284707
Lads?
>>
>tfw sort of look like mosley
>>
File: 500 блины.jpg (187KB, 1124x1024px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
500 блины.jpg
187KB, 1124x1024px
>>121285529
something more uncommon please
i have many from vk
>>
>>121285852
You should LARP as him and see what people say.

They'd probably think you were a spree killer tbvqh
>>
>>121284707
>>121285735
Look at the lower left corner in >>121281919
>>
File: 1445439409837.jpg (205KB, 1124x1024px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1445439409837.jpg
205KB, 1124x1024px
>>121285919
>>
>>121285952
So it's signed by him? Yeah, that's a really big achievement. Except it fucking isn't, his entire life was whining about being fuhrer, he had lots of time to scribble.
>>
>>121285945
I might for halloween next year t b h
>>
>>121267463
t. kebab
>>
>>121286118
Why are you even here if you hate memes?
>>
>>121285952
W E W
E
W
>>121286118
Who the fuck cares, it's an autograph of one of our main (dead, may I mention) memes
>>
>>121286039
thank you
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00001.png (81KB, 500x96px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00001.png
81KB, 500x96px
WAKE ME UP
>>
>>121282553
wew lad
>>
>>121279839
Alright, I will take a look.

>>121279592
Maybe I will use major events like Brown's last raid to set up a thermometer. As time passes and the situation evolves, they fire until after the last one fires they are on the tipping point, only waiting for the war to break out.

In any case, here are some games I already have:

System Shock 2
NALS7*1A5CFBB3341L

Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Athena
HPMA781A*CFBB334GK

Both asterisks are a single number. Both games are on GOG.
>>
File: 1363997779742.jpg (53KB, 600x450px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1363997779742.jpg
53KB, 600x450px
>>121286494
>Not wanting a 5 loli harem
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00006.jpg (412KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00006.jpg
412KB, 1366x768px
Found a qt3.14, should I seduce her?
>>
>>121287270
Is that even a question?
>>
>>121286875
I DON'T HAVE AN HEIR
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00007.jpg (415KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00007.jpg
415KB, 1366x768px
>>121287332
I take that as a yes. She looks like taytay <3
>>
>>121287559
back to /brit/
>>
>>121286350
Call me when we get willy's autograph.
>>
>>121287402
Inseminate them all
>>
>>121258104
Hey no problem. If it doesn't work or you have further questions ask away.
>>
>>121287606
This place is brit/pol/.
>>
File: 1445375186086.png (183KB, 683x686px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1445375186086.png
183KB, 683x686px
>>121287817
>>
File: UK Election 1837.png (879KB, 2000x2081px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
UK Election 1837.png
879KB, 2000x2081px
>>121286847
Also, you should make Britain start with Whig/Conservative loyalty according to this map.
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00008.jpg (421KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00008.jpg
421KB, 1366x768px
>>121287817
Hm, it's this easy. I want to make bastards with her and hand them conquered demesnes.
>>
File: fucking germany.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
fucking germany.jpg
1MB, 1920x1080px
Is there no way you can stop shit like this showing up in the wrong millennium?

Is it not possible to set a date as a per-requisite before it can be formed?
>>
>>121286847
>Maybe I will use major events like Brown's last raid to set up a thermometer. As time passes and the situation evolves, they fire until after the last one fires they are on the tipping point, only waiting for the war to break out.
That's not a bad idea in principle, but it doesn't really account for ideology. Arguably--and this is about the biggest "arguably" you can have in Civil War historiography, mind--the South never would have rebelled had they felt that their right to holding slaves was not being compromised. In a hypothetical situation where an overtly anti-slavery party (so liberal, in Vicky terms) never won high office in the American republic, there's a chance that the South never would have rebelled. Of course a permanent conservative/reactionary deadlock on the government would never happen in Vicky, but I doubt, for example, that the South would have rebelled in 1860 if their candidate won the presidency.

Basically what I'm getting at is that ideology, by necessity, has to play a part in the Civil War. If pro-South forces dominate the government, they're not likely to rebel until those forces are out of office. And pro-South forces held the government for much of the '40s and '50s, which is a great deal of the reason why ever-rising tension even from the '30s didn't boil over until 1860. The Civil War could have happened a lot sooner if anti-slavery sentiment and liberal control of the government had happened earlier, but it didn't. And so HPM should, ideally, set up the conditions that make America less likely to have a Civil War prior to the late '50s/early '60s, but also allow for it to occur earlier, perhaps even decades earlier, under the proper conditions.

tl;dr there has to be SOME level of ideological manipulation in America if you want it to work "historically."
>>
File: up da ra.png (133KB, 435x350px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
up da ra.png
133KB, 435x350px
>>121287921
I.. is that national Action?
>>
what's a good country for first time commie games? i'm getting sick of lazy fair
>>
>>121287559
>>121288179

Why the fuck are you seducing someone with only one county claim, and no genetic traits? Whats the point in that?

"Looks vaguely like Tay-tay" is not a valid reason.

Go find yourself some genius Karling girl with vast tracts of land to put your dick in.
>>
File: 1419708892321.jpg (1MB, 1920x2361px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1419708892321.jpg
1MB, 1920x2361px
>>121288352
yes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7TJgPGgfZs
>>
>>121288352
>that file name

fuckin' a
>>
>>121288459
It's the first time I seduced someone in this game. After I kill her husband and I marry her I should be heir to the welsh kingdom. Also I want to be cosy, why would an anglo-saxon king want land in the middle of west francia?
>>
>>121288713
>why would an anglo-saxon king want land in the middle of west francia
/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General
>>
File: vicky2 election.png (41KB, 442x261px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
vicky2 election.png
41KB, 442x261px
>>121286847
>>121288154
So by province it should look like this.
>>
>>121289004
I don't get it? There was only French land ruled by england after 1066, and William was not anglo-saxon. Anglo-saxons had nothing to do with France.
>>
>>121289219
Dark blue would be Reactionaries/Tories then?
>>
>>121288713
I was more thinking of the benefits of being able to always call on the Karlings for help in wars, and getting some decent traits out of her hole.
>>
>>121289536
No, I just coloured each province slightly differently so HPM could see which provinces were which. The blue is all conservative and the yellow/orange/brown is all whig.
>>
>>121289624
I already have an alliance with them (2 actually)

I regret it though, I think I just answered the 9th call-to-arms against a frankish rebellion. Nobody likes the king in his realm.
>>
>>121288154
>>121289219
Without a legend, it's kinda hard to tell where party loyalty goes.

Do keep in mind I can only set vote by ideology, not by party.

>>121288238
Oh, I agree with you. If you try to push the issue, the war might happen faster. Which is why a set date also doesn't work well. I thought about integrating ideology the same way I modified some decisions (so a liberal government can't go after the Ostend Manifesto, for example). The problem is integrating ideology in a satisfactory and non spammy way.

In any case, what triggered the civil war anyway? What was the last drop that made people think the only way to solve was secceeding?
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00002.jpg (641KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00002.jpg
641KB, 1920x1080px
FINLAND UNIDET :DDD
>>
>>121290225
Yeah, just have the liberal loyalty sky high in whig provinces and the conservative loyalty sky high in conservative provinces, level it out and you've got a perfect two party system.
>>
>>121290250
>Charlememe start

You dun goofed anon
>>
File: 1446579960790.jpg (45KB, 683x600px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1446579960790.jpg
45KB, 683x600px
>>121290250
Ebin :-DDD
>>
>>121290372
Alright. What's up with the non regular intervals in UK elections anyway? At least in the beginning of the 19th century.
>>
>>121288204
germany's just the alt name for non Karling east francia.

not super ahistorical.
>>
File: Gnorrehhea faec.png (763KB, 542x695px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Gnorrehhea faec.png
763KB, 542x695px
Aside from being a lunatic with gonorrhoea, what happened to this guys face?
>>
>>121290225
What triggered the civil WAR itself was the battle of fort sumter, which was like five months after Lincoln won and confederate states declared independence. I think you should really model this brief period of peace as an opportunity for the CSA to regroup its forces
>>
>>121290494
I don't know much about the period and it's so clouded by time anyway, I think it's fun to imagine the feel of things and stuff without really knowing too much about what's going on or what should be going on.
>>
File: THATCHER.png (1MB, 2000x2846px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
THATCHER.png
1MB, 2000x2846px
>>121290648
In the UK the ruling party can call an election whenever they like, (Or atleast they could, there was a change in 2010 and I think it's regulated to once every 5 years now) so if they were about to do something unpopular they could hold an election whilst they were still popular or recently received a spike in popularity and win.

IIRC, Thatcher called an election after the Falklands war when her popularity was through the roof as the defender of the empire, pic related
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_1983
>>
>>121290225
>In any case, what triggered the civil war anyway? What was the last drop that made people think the only way to solve was secceeding?
The professor I had for the course argued that Brown's raid was essentially the point of no return. Almost the entire South was shocked to discover that the North actually approved in large measure of what Brown had done; a few even called for more violence until the slavery issue was settled. At first the South thought this was just isolated insanity, but soon newspapers across the North started to print it, and Southerners started to call for violence against abolitionists gradually on their own. Effectively, the two sides of the debate not only polarized, but their suggested responses radicalized following the raid.

Now, whether I believe that or not is a different story. There was a lot of saber-rattling around the time of the Missouri Compromise, the Tariff of Abominations, etc. I haven't done enough research to know personally whether the general mood really did turn that sharply against unity.

Whatever the case about the inevitability of disunion, the actual event which secured it was absolutely the election of Lincoln. My professor would have argued that Lincoln coming to the white house was merely an effective scapegoat for the South to point at, but even if that's true Lincoln also escalated tensions on his own. He was not for abolishing slavery, but he was for completely isolating it (no new US territory would become slaveholding in any capacity), and so he played into that Southern fear of political and territorial isolation. In my opinion, it was Lincoln that was the final straw. Disunion might well have been inevitably after Brown's raid, but it might have been a decade longer in coming if not for a Republican's election.
>>
File: EU3_18.jpg (96KB, 365x416px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
EU3_18.jpg
96KB, 365x416px
>play a bunch of diplomatic HRE games in a row
>decide to intentionally not diplo-blob and try to be unpopular and isolationist
I just can't stop myself.
>>
>>121290847

he discovered he's a nigger
>>
>>121290648
A lot of our system is based on convention, for example officially the office of Prime Minister doesn't need exist, it was a convention which developed over time

Non regular intervals is because the British prime minister has held the power to call a general election at any time in their 5 year term, so often a government would hold an early election if their popularity was dropping to keep them in power for another session, only last year we introduced fixed term 6 years parliament, with only a majority parliamentary vote being able to dissolve parliament now
>>
>>121290847

he discovered he's married to a nigger
>>
File: Untitled.png (476KB, 611x397px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled.png
476KB, 611x397px
I bring memes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXmMT4sETu8
>>
File: wife repair.png (935KB, 648x766px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
wife repair.png
935KB, 648x766px
Is there any way I can fix this? Managed to pick up the sister of the Basilieus when he was feeling particularly kind because I was helping him bash the Muslims.

But I kinda fucked it up a bit by having too many kids with some other "nun-concubines" that has strong and genius that I'd picked up along the way, dragged to my court, told to take the vows then seduced. Keeps them from straying, and keeps the travel time down, you know?

But yeah, the Greek missus took offense at my new nigglet production line. Is there any way to get back in her good books?
>>
>>121291608
NOT AGAIN BBC!
>>
>>121291235
UK can still have a general election at any point if there's a vote of no confidence
>>
>>121291608
Where's my WW2 rap already
>>
>>121290847

he discovered his son is a nigger
>>
File: 1445791570570.png (200KB, 353x431px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1445791570570.png
200KB, 353x431px
I'm playing as Greece and just reclaimed Albania.

How do I liberate Albania while keeping my sole core province in the south?

I want to have an albanian puppet state without losing my core in Girokaster.
>>
>>121290648
Will you add ideological loyalty to Britain and the US? It would do leaps and bounds to representing the flawed system of FPTP.

t. CGPgrey
>>
anyone know how to get GP with poland in v2? I try and use the prussia, AH, and russia against each other but they either refuse to join my wars or pull me into their retarded wars which end up with me getting occupied.

what do i do lads? and please don't say git good
>>
>>121291608
Wew lad
Better than the rap battle at least
>>
>>121291982
git gud
>>
>>121291929
That's impossible
t. Johan
>>
>>121291929
changeowner it back
>>
>>121291929
>tfw your mate says the Romans never met the Chinese
>>
File: a serb appears.png (1MB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
a serb appears.png
1MB, 1366x768px
>>121291608
>>
Jew gsg designed by /pol/ fucking when
I want to control the world with elaborate schemes most people wouldn't even be able to understand
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00001.jpg (462KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00001.jpg
462KB, 1920x1080px
>malaria
>in fucking siberia
>>
>>121292438
>>
>>121292339
Problem is, if I release them, I lose the core. And Greece looks much better with that province, so my border autism wont let me give up the province

>>121292260
Paradox really needs to add a mechanic to select which provinces will go to your puppets. But I guess Johan only cares about more dlcs
>>
>>121287270
>greedy
golddigger
>gluttonous
landwhale
>gregarious, lustful
slut

0/10 wouldn't seduce
>>
>>121292651
>mfw a great power intervenes for status quo
>>
File: Untitled.png (1MB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled.png
1MB, 1366x768px
>>121291608
>mfw 6th liberation of French Elsaß-Lothringen
>>
>>121292564

Realism is not a meaningful argument.

How many times will I have to say that?

Have you pre-ordered HoI4 yet?
>>
File: ck2_2.png (3MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ck2_2.png
3MB, 1600x900px
>>
File: 1444597505005.jpg (41KB, 534x532px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
1444597505005.jpg
41KB, 534x532px
>>121292121
what did u say?
>>
>>121293126
>Elsaß-Lothringen
>>
>>121293305
yes, that's what it's called when germany owns it
>>
>>121293375
No my good sire, you seem to misunderstand, YOU ARE FROM REDDIT!
>>
>>121291608
>mfw fascist rebels wanting to overthrow Versailles
>>
File: Untitled.png (211KB, 367x423px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled.png
211KB, 367x423px
>>
>>121293375
>when germany owns it
>>
>>121293229
git
u
d
>>
>>121291235
>>121291515
Ok, thanks. I wish there was a party popularity meter, something more visible and clear than just party loyalty, and that the AI would be capable of calling votes. Maybe at some point I could do something with it for the UK.

>>121291312
>>121290905
Alright, thanks a lot!
>>121291968
Yes, but that is only in the game start. As the game goes on, that will degrade.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLL2Txs8kCg

mrw I research railroad techs
>>
>>121294017
>Yes, but that is only in the game start. As the game goes on, that will degrade.
>Maybe at some point I could do something with it for the UK.

So are you only doing it for the US, not the UK?

Also, surely you could just put the loyalty really really high (100 or so) and it would never degrade?
>>
>>121294201
I will do for both. For the UK I was talking about a system to do snap elections

And it will degrade. Stuff like losing wars drops it by a lot. Besides, if it never degrades, it also can turn in an one party country.
>>
>>121294164
>implying it wasn't a Brazilian faggot who created the airplane
>>
File: ck2_437.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ck2_437.jpg
1MB, 1920x1080px
1 more country and then I can form Poland
>tfw Bohemia is all khazar culture after 1 khan settled there because of meme lords
>>
File: Untitled.png (227KB, 529x278px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled.png
227KB, 529x278px
>mfw in the top 5 automobile producers
>>
File: Untitled.png (1MB, 1366x768px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Untitled.png
1MB, 1366x768px
>mfw researching railroad tech before anything else
>>
>>121294681
>more than 5 countries producing automobiles
>>
I don't get ck2 straits desu. If there is an iberia to north africa, gotland to sweden and italy to albania why not english channel, cyprus and malta
>>
File: bulgaria lost.png (3MB, 1461x1018px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
bulgaria lost.png
3MB, 1461x1018px
What the fuck Bulgaria?
>>
>>121295623
Realism is not a meaningful argument.
>>
File: y8stSxp.jpg (613KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
y8stSxp.jpg
613KB, 2560x1440px
>>121295762
Quality Paradox AI
>>
>>121295623
>gotland to sweden
>italy to albania

fucking really? since when? I've not played vanilla in a while
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00003.jpg (658KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00003.jpg
658KB, 1920x1080px
BEHOLT

GREATER FINLAND!

:-DDDDDDDD
>>
>>121295892
Can't wait to have a radical Byzantium Polish puppet state.
>>
>>121295992
What's the next step in your master plan, GroßFinlandium?
>>
>>121294017
I'd argue the final point of no return was the election of Lincoln in 1860, as much as his policies were not in the best interests of the south, the danger he posed had been greatly exaggerated by the Southern papers and spread by word of mouth, the biggest rumour being Lincoln was going to abolish slavery, which was unfounded at the time, Lincoln being a moderate Republican, wishing to only stop slavery expanding - this still greatly upset many southern politicians, complaining that it was part of a free state conspiracy to weaken the south by creating more free states to outnumber them. But believing Lincoln would abolish slavery pushed southern politicians over the edge for the last time triggering the secession crisis.

It could be possible to add in an event chain to negotiate with the south before fort Sumter, making concessions or promising the status quo, confessions such as turning parts of the Mexican secession into slave states, though this should only delay the process, just outlawing slavery before or after this too should lead to a secession crisis perhaps even worse

What also should be reworked is the the border states secession, the 3 slave states which remained in the Union, Missouri, Kentucky, and even Maryland and also West Virginia - still part of Virginia proper before secession

Currently Maryland, West Virginia, and Missouri are coded to stay in the Union always and with no limits Kentucky nearly, really it should be based on chance as the choice of the border states was a serious issue, all with different chances to stay or leave, Maryland most likely to nearly always stay, similar with Kentucky, Missouri leaning towards saying, and West Virginia 60/40 of seceding back to the Union, even better would be to make it also likely certain parts of the states mag secede, with Baltimore and the sites surrounding area being heavily pro-confederate, same with the south of Missouri where a guerilla war was waged by Confederate supporters
>>
>>121267463
also, the greeks massacred turkish populations in multiple occupied cities during the turkish war of independence
>>
File: suursuomi.jpg (1MB, 1942x1223px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
suursuomi.jpg
1MB, 1942x1223px
>>121296165
>>
>>121294504
Could you make the decision to form Gran Colombia not require you to own the Panama Canal? It's a huge PITA to get it back from America, even when it should be really easy, and it doesn't make that much sense that you'd absolutely need one little province.
>>
HPM are you here?
>>
Rob are you here?
>>
>>121296302
good
>>
>>121295623
because they think England being an island creates interesting gameplay but forgot to implement decent naval AI/mechanics to make it true
>>
Is there any point to increasing relations in vicky 2 other than to get them into the positive for a diplomatic action?
>>
>>121296247
Nah, by Lincoln it was too late, m8. Johnson was in office for months after the election results were returned, and he didn't do anything about the secession. They had already declared independence and had been operating on their own for months by the time Lincoln--who was the only one who would have been willing to negotiate--was in office, and by that time the South couldn't back down for the sake of honor. We know, because Lincoln tried, and they basically said fuck off.

Although I do agree on the part about the border states. Which states join the Confederacy and stay with the Union in general should be more dynamic. Kansas/Nebraska also could have easily gone either way; so too Arizona/New Mexico.
>>
File: ck2_439.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ck2_439.jpg
1MB, 1920x1080px
>>121294659
Khazars BTFO

How Groß should my Poland be before switching?
>>
Where can I find the latest version of Geheiminshaft for CK2 ?

Are you still unable to impregnate elves as a human ?
>>
Kojak are you here?
>>
Wiz, are you here?
>>
What's the best way to improve economic base compared to someone else so I can vassal them?
>>
Bobocrunch are you here?
>>
File: hqdefault.jpg (18KB, 480x360px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
hqdefault.jpg
18KB, 480x360px
> start game of thrones mod for Ck2
> first time,playing this
> start as lonley light island
> my heir is married to Theon, balon won't accept marriage to his direct heir
> assasinated balon
> tried to assasinate the now king of the iron islands
> 70% chance
> he still finds out
> he tells me to knock off the scheming
>ok.jog
> scheming dident work,let's physically overthrow him
>declare war
> balon executes my heir that was to be married to Theon
> oops, dident think that through
> raise my 800 man army and 10 boats
> sail over to the iron islands ...
>.... who have raised over 1500 men and tons of ships
> my men dident even make it over, everyone meet a watery grave
I gained a new respect for bugs that get smeared across windshields
Pic sorta related
>>
Anon are you here?
>>
File: ck2_440.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ck2_440.jpg
1MB, 1920x1080px
>>121297043
Name my daughter /gsg/
>>
>>121297631
Ebina
>>
>>121297631
Benis
>>
>>121297631
Benisia
>>
>>121297631
Epic
>>
>>121297631
Penis
>>
>>121297032
My bad I nay have misphrased as I agree with you, it was by the election results it was too late, not Lincoln officially taking the president a few months later, as you mentioned the secession crisis was already in full swing while Buchanan was still president for his final months and did nothing to stop this - I'd argue Buchanans southern sympathies and disdain in Lincoln played a role in his inactivity too in thus period, alongside him just being a poor president in general, and taking the approach it wasn't his problem anymore, the only thing I slightly disagree with is that perhaps being a bit optimistic, but if Sumter hadn't occurred there would have been room for more negotiations of some sort, though likely demanding heavy union concessions
>>
File: ck2_441.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ck2_441.jpg
1MB, 1920x1080px
>>121297631
>>121297669
>>121297837
>tfw no son Except the inbred one I killed
>>121297660
>responded in 24 seconds
Impressive desu
>>
>>121297631
Cock
>>
>>121297631
>>121298075

Penisia
>>
Okay guys, I'm about to start working on South Africa for Napoleon's Legacy.
>>
>>121295892
>>121295892
"end turn" in the bottom left?????????
>>
>>121298420
They're negotiating a treaty. Each person takes a turn making demands and concessions.
>>
>>121297030
it helps lets you build up influence quicker to sphere countries if you have high relations
>>
>>121297436
70% plot power to kill someone? m8 don't even bother unless it's 100%+
>>
>>121298009
Fuck, it was Buchanan. Why the fuck did I say Johnson?

Well, you're right that without Sumter things might have changed, but Lincoln was the one who gave the order to make a statement at Sumter, and the South was just as interested at making a statement there. Both sides had the opportunity to back down and neither did, so I would call Sumter a truly moot point; there was no room for any real cooperation by then.
>>
File: ULXLLaMkyk4.jpg (51KB, 500x500px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ULXLLaMkyk4.jpg
51KB, 500x500px
>>121298420

they decided to get rid of the real time people were getting too confused
>>
>>121298414
Nice. I think it would be cool if British Empire and Netherlands could fight over SA, with three possible outcomes: SA stays independent, SA gets annexed by the Dutch, or SA gets annexed by Britain. Nerfing SA's massive immigration a little bit would be nice too.
>>
>>121298414

Napoopan's Legacy anon, have you ever thought of reworking the Russian Civil War? Rather then it being between a Constitutional Russia and an autocratic one like it is now, I think a cool idea more based in the history of the Decembrists would be a split between the Northern and Southern Societies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decembrist_revolt#The_Union_of_Salvation

>The political aims of the more moderate Northern Society were a British style constitutional monarchy with a limited franchise, the abolition of serfdom and equality before the law. The Southern Society, under Pestel's influence, was more radical and wanted to abolish the monarchy, establish a republic and redistribute land: taking half into state ownership and dividing the rest among the peasants.

There's a bit more political nuance to both sides, and I do have a historical textbook of Russian history to detail it for you if you're interested.
>>
>>121298420

We Civilization nao
>>
>tfw you siege one holding in paris and get the queen of france and two princes as prisoners

glorious
>>
>>121299015
I don't have plans for South Africa to be fought over, but their assimilation and migration looks like North America levels

>>121299216
Sounds interesting, I can change the Russian civil war because the system now is iffy. Would this push the civil war before or after the current one? The current one happens at 1861~, and I'm willing to move the civil war to the earlier years, and the French Civil War to when communism is enabled
>>
File: HoI3_33.png (2MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
HoI3_33.png
2MB, 1920x1080px
r8
>>
>>121299721
What next sherlock? You don't have any fucking manpower.
>>
>>121299721

>0 manpower

Nice job, dumbass.
>>
>>121298897
I get everyone's names mixed up constantly, Albert Sidney Johnston and Joseph E. Johnston when writing about Confederate generalship years ago...

true that is a bit of a moot point, since just like you mentioned Lincoln wanted a show of force at Sumter, easily could have evacuated it for the purpose of negotiation defusing tensions - though such a move would have been a huge prestige hit to the Union and a major
boost to the confederacy, probably Lincoln at some level realised the slavery debate would lead to civil
conflict, and he might as well let the south go down in history as the ones who shot first. Any negotiation would have been a huge prestige blow and any compromise, not to mention giving the Confederates time to negotiate abroad too
>>
>>121299721
t. marco
>>
>>121299721
t. manpower
>>
>>121299721
what kinda manpower you want senpai?
>>
>>121299584
unless youre a pagan thats nothing
>>
>>121300469
ok
>>
>>121297137
pls help lads.
>>
>install the new hpm
>game crashes after loading country every time
>try older version, crashes the same way
>reinstall
>crashing

fug help
>>
>>121295892
>meme map names
german reich of nazi germany
italian fascism
democratic france
republican usa
libertarian sweden
conservative poland
maoist china
imperial japan
iron guard romania
moderate turkey
>>
File: Captura de Tela (1).png (730KB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Captura de Tela (1).png
730KB, 1280x1024px
so /gsg/i been having a problem with my DH 1.04f
it seems that there is no way i can in a battle i even tried cheating but nothing worked i think it is a bug plz help
>>
>>121300848
British Union of Fascism
Imperial Military Junta of Japan
Imperial Romanov Russia
Aturkish Turkish Republic (of Turkey)
Republican State of Ireland
Democratic USA
Republican USA
Neutral Switzerland
Exiled Free France
>>
>>121301187
check the combat modifiers by hovering over the unit cards. i guess that your attack efficiency is 0 or less, or that there is a huge negative modifier. all due to a bug of course.
>>
>>121301482
forgot
Estado Novo brazil
Estado Novo Portugal
>>
>>121301482
Partido Socialista Chile
>>
>>121301482
LaPlatean Argentina
Duchy of Luxemburg
Colonial Empire of Netherlands
Vichy France
Emu Australia
British colony of India
Non Islamic Persia
Megali Idea Greece
>>
>>121299667

>Sounds interesting, I can change the Russian civil war because the system now is iffy.

Thanks for being receptive, to answer your questions I'll go into detail on the two briefly.

The main difference between the Northern and Southern Society's were already posted above, but there are further complexities to them. Both societies originated from the Union of Welfare, which split into the two in 1821 due to government pressure and the dispersion of military officers.

The Northern Society's (based in St. Petersburg) constitutional draft by Nikita Muraviev in 1825 showed called for the reorganization of the Russian state into a federation of fifteen states and two provinces, with a hereditary emperor analogous to a U.S. President in powers, sharing power with a bicameral People's Assembly. Serfdom, censorship, and official classes and titles were to be abolished and civil liberties such as freedom of assembly were to be recognized. It was a liberal document, but not a democratic one however, as the right to hold office and vote would still be based on property qualifications, and would not threaten noble landholding rights. Serfowners would lose their serfs, but keep their estates. Muraviev bowed to pressure from more radical Northern Society members while creating it and agreed that freed serfs should be provided with a very small amount of land. This relatively small amount of land would mean many former serfs would continue laboring on their former masters' estates however. Overall in Vicky 2 terms you could interpret them as a Constitutional (like Russia starts now) or Semi-Constitutional Monarchy.

The Southern Society was the more 'radical' of the two. Led by Paul Pestel, son of the former governor-general of Siberia, the Southern Society was based in Ukraine. Pestel's ideas for Russia are outlined in the document 'Russian Justice' (link here if you can speak Russian: http://www.hrono.ru/dokum/ru_pr1825.html). Continued in next post.
>>
File: Captura de Tela (3).png (622KB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Captura de Tela (3).png
622KB, 1280x1024px
>>121301626
The combat effectiness is not zero but the is this night modifier i dont know what iis causing this problem they simply don lose no matter how much outnumbered they are
>>
File: HoI3_148.jpg (1MB, 3836x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
HoI3_148.jpg
1MB, 3836x1080px
>Japan and Manchukuo take everything I occupied from me in the peace deal with the Soviet Union
fuggin

this means WAR
>>
>>121302348
oh, you were fighting partisans? i have the impression that partisan warfare uses a completely different system, so that you cannot win immediately just by outnumbering them. you are probably winning, just with a lot of casualties. 5x timespeed to test the result. or declare war to someone else, and see if you can cause casualties. also kill yourself for playing on easy.
>>
>>121302348
Does the same thing happen in darkest hour full or just in that mod?
>>
>>121299871
>>121299998
>>121300376
>>121300449
>there are people who think having manpower sitting uselessly in reserve is a good thing.

Not even him, you guys are bad at HoI3.
>>
>>121302247
This looks pretty good, but I have to go now. I'll definitely implement your idea.But would that mean the capital of the Southern Society be based in Kiev, or even Moscow?

On another note, South Africa looks fixed now, but I have a question for everybody. Should I give South Africa slavery allowed? It would work well with my idea that they conquer Madagascar and other lands But I don't want a south african steppe wolf mod
>>
>>121302247
>>121299667

Pestel outlined a rigid centralization of the Russian state in the document and even Russification on local levels, whereas the Northern Society granted room for local powers in areas that included non-Russians. An English translation of one part of it says the new administration should "constantly aim at making them [the nationalities] into one single nation and at dissolving all differences into one common mass." The Poles and Jews would be the only exceptions to this as Pestel was willing to make concessions for them. He held secret negotiations with some Poles and suggested in his drafts the possibility of Polish independence under certain conditions. For Jews who would not wish to assimilate, Pestel suggested helping them emigrate to Asia Minor, where they could establish their own state. The main difference from the Northern Society's plans however was the implementation of a republic. In it power would be divided between a unicameral People's Assembly, a 5-person state Duma, and a 120-member Supreme Council. However, to bring about this system Pestel counted on a military coup, followed by a temporary dictatorship of intermediate length that would transform into a republic over time (in theory). Pestel's document, while still caling for the elimination of serfdom, censorship, and official class distinctions, also had an insistence on secret political police organizations and a ban on private organizations and societies.

The radicalness of Pestel's plan was also shown in his granting of full citizenship rights-to all men over twenty-and in his radical land reform plans. Half of all land of the country's wealthiest property owners was to be confiscated, and every citizen was to have the right to enough public land (from communes) to provide for his family.

>>121303202

The Southern Society's capital would probably be in Kiev then. I'd love to talk more but since you're going I'll leave it at that, thanks for reading.
>>
>>121303202
forgot pic

going to update changelog cause I should do that sooner or later
>>
>>121302883
this battle as being going for a long time they just wont die
>>121302986
it happens with or without mods but this just happens with version 1.04,version 1.03 works fine
>>
>>121303410

Oh and I ran out of room for my citation.

Moss, Peter G. "A History of Russia, Volume I: To 1917. Second Edition."Anthem Press, 2005.
>>
>>121303484
do what i told you. declare a war to a real country and see if combat is normal. if it is, then it's probably some issue with partisan warfare? if it isn't, then reinstall and see if it persists..
>>
>>121303420
Rhodesia mod when
>>
File: ck2_442.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ck2_442.jpg
1MB, 1920x1080px
>>121298075
Poland time is now lads
>>121303420
Great mod desu senpai, is it still possible to win the war with South Africa as Xhosa?
Can you add an event chain for Spain to take its former colonies back? Right now Spain is just a boring grind and the USA would be too weak for a Monroe Doctrine.
>>
tfw instead of building railways capitalists are just funding shit factories that go bankrupt within months of completion
>>
File: Captura de Tela (5).png (784KB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
Captura de Tela (5).png
784KB, 1280x1024px
>>121303841
Did it dont know why so much casualties
Also i won againts the partisans but lost most of my troops and it didnt even kill all of then
>>
>>121299667
French civil war should be triggered if the government switches from constitutional monarchy imo, I've seen France just get fucked up by wave after wave of Jacobins, Reactionaries and Socialists and just get run over when the civil war comes. If the Napoleonic government collapses, it doesn't seem right that the non-French would stay peacefully. Also, Napoleonic Spain should be able to turn into Spain if Spain becomes Cuba.
>>
File: 089bee_5627483[1].png (10KB, 1560x738px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
089bee_5627483[1].png
10KB, 1560x738px
>>121304519

The free market will fix it
>>
>>121291608
i like this one t b h
>>
>>121304794
what is your checksum (of dh full)?
>>
>>121304794
The casualties there are because of the less advanced land doctrines most likely. Don't know what's going on with the partisan combats though.
>>
>>121304313
>Can you add an event chain for Spain to take its former colonies back? Right now Spain is just a boring grind and the USA would be too weak for a Monroe Doctrine.
this desu senpai
>>
>>121273920
>Iowa
And they were so close to having good borders
>>
File: 2015-11-04_00005.jpg (550KB, 1600x900px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
2015-11-04_00005.jpg
550KB, 1600x900px
Finally conquered Jerusalem. Cost me 30k lives and made the Byzantines revolt.
>>
>>121305804
It is FGYE
>>
>>121259095
So does the EU4 multiplayer patch in the archive work? Has anyone tried it?
>>
>>121306509
mine too. i really can't figure out your problem. either try to reinstall or contact parakeks forum.
>>
File: ck2_444.jpg (1MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [iqdb] [SauceNao] [Google]
ck2_444.jpg
1MB, 1920x1080px
>>121304313
Attacking the Khazars for their last uninhabited territory in Poland so polish culture comes back
>tfw Khazars have been in Poland this long
>>
>>121307529
i will try thanks for the help
>>
>>121259095
im a beginner should i just go with EU4 to start with ?
>>
>>121307716
nice pecs
>>