XCOM General - /xcg/

first for snek

>>121208157

fuck off.

3rd for fuck you johnny lump

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>>121207385

>I note out loud that Firaxis seem to tackling the problems that bothered players who stuck with Enemy Unknown the longest: the sense of deja vu ...
>"It’s not necessarily going to be the game with the hardest late game. It might be, depending where you are in the tech tree."
>"But you also might hit a major spike midway through the game, because the aliens have unleashed their UFO on you at that point. We don’t know where those things will show up along the spectrum, but we’re pretty excited by that. We see these difficulty peaks and valleys as opposed to this linear curve."
>http://www.pcgamesn.com/xcom-2/xcom-2-declassified-firaxis-on-the-risky-shot-theyre-taking-with-a-new-strategy-layer

what the fug
>we decided to address the problems of Enemy Unknown by not actually addressing them and just making ayys assault your base more often than a single scripted mission at a set in-game date

why not bring back the random stitched-together environments of oldcom

why not make the early game more diverse and actually balance perks against eachother so every round isn't so cookie-cutter

why not make a good game

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>>121207385
>>121207830

Missed this:

>http://www.pcgamesn.com/xcom-2/xcom-2-declassified-firaxis-on-the-risky-shot-theyre-taking-with-a-new-strategy-layer
>“But you also might hit a major spike midway through the game, because the aliens have unleashed their UFO on you at that point."

Here for a healthy Air Game in XCOM 2.

6th for lets try to keep the shitposting to a minimal in this thread, please?

whats a good streaming software

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>>121208671
>procedurally generated maps are back
>Perks can be mixed and matched better as well ad random perks assigned to soldiers for more unique soldiers and perk combos

Can't you at least keep up with the news in between you continuous whining and bickering?

/fog/ here to remind you that we'll be getting our game in 6 days.

Fuck, even the X-Files reboot is coming out before XCOM 2.

Sucks to be you!

10th for magnificent design

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>>121210869
>Sucks to be you!
Right back at you.

>>121211697
Those animations look worse than XCOM's facial animations, and you're never supposed to be that close to your soldier's models in the first place.

>>121211697
Why did you post a gif from the XCOM FPS?

>>121212014
There is no such thing as an xcom fps

>>121212014
>yfw The Bureau and Fallout 4 are the same game

>>121212295
the bureau looked pretty fun though, I'd buy it on a steam sale

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>>121208264

I know that feeling.

Airgame is shit
Interceptors are shit
Firestorms are shit
Worse than snekposters.

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>>121214071

W-What about the Xenonauts ones?

mods that aren't in the pastebin

Lost EU Maps
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/575/?
>Allows playing the 4 EU maps which are not avaliable in EWI:
>URB_Museum, URB_Museum_Euro, URB_Demolition, URB_GasStation

Long War- Customize the Air Game
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/608/?
>you can customize the stats for the Interceptor, the Firestorm, every single weapon, UFO, and foundry project related to the Air Game.
>You can also modify critical hits, specifically the minimum crit chance, the maximum crit chance, and the critical hit multiplier.

Relevant Information
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/623/?
>Long War is often criticized for being opaque and having a significant proportion of important information regarding game mechanics and detailed stats located outside of the game itself (i.e. DGC.ini, the wiki, and the Nexus forums).
>However, the strategic UI is filled with flavour text that, while nice to read, is extremely vague and virtually useless to the player.
>This mod aims to repurpose the space in order to add information that is precise, assists player decisions, and reduces the need to ALT-TAB out of the game to check things.

Long War Mod Manager
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/620/?
>This utility simplifies the installation and removal of Long War mods and can be used as a replacement for PatcherGUI. It also supports some new mod file extensions that allow for the automatic updating of configuration files.
>This can be used to automatically define keyboard commands, add second wave options, or anything else that involves adding lines to a config file.

>>121215912

Long War Customize Unique Soldier Stats
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/606/?
>You can alter the HP, Will, Aim, and Mobility of all the unique soldiers, and if they get a bonus perk (Van Doorn/Zhang), well, you can edit that too.
>This mod is compatible with eclipse666's Patrick - The Plumber - Carlock (for Long War) modification.

Additional Species
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/619/?
>Show all UFO species in Hyperwave Relay info screen.

Virtual Reality Training (for Long War)
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/569/?
>Healthy and non-fatigued soldiers earn XP every day while at the base. Extra XP can be earned by building the Officer Training School and purchasing officer upgrades. Make those rookies useful at last!

Campaign Summary
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/626/?
>Campaign Summary adds a new menu option to the Situation Room allowing you to view a timeline of major strategic events over your entire campaign.
>It provides high level information about the events and displays an up-to-date world map showing the status of the world including panic levels, satellite coverage, withdrawn countries, and mission info.

Unhealable Red Fog
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/629/?
>With this mod SW Red Fog penalties such as aim and mobility will last until the end of the mission and cannot be healed by medkits, sodlier will penalties remain healable.

All Perks Per Rank
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/631/?
>Gives you all perks in a rank when you choose a perk. You will gain the bonus stats (will, aim, etc) of the chosen perk, but not the other perks. Works with 1, 2, or 3 perks per rank, and in every version of Long War I've tested it on.

Floater Autopsy Tweak
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/632/?
>Changes the placement of the Floater Autopsy so it comes after Xenogenetics instead of after Alien Biocybernetics, while simultaneously making it a pre-req for Alien Biocybernetics

>>121216076

Arc Thrower Range
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/630/?
>Allows you to adjust Arc Thrower range through ini files.
>After installation, go the "Weapons=..." line for the Arc Thrower in DefaultGameCore.ini (by default, it's like 1947, or 1974 if you use the pistol-slot version). Change the iRange variable to something you like.

DR Chipping (for Long War)
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/628/?
>DR Chipping is a minor mechanics tweak that allows DR to be reduced through repeated hits. It is fully compatible with Long War and integrates seamlessly into existing campaigns. It does not overhaul balance, perk, or item stats in any way, it simply adds a new mechanic to the tactical game.

UFO Interception Tweak
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/634/?
>This is an attempt to lessen the impact of "bad luck" RNG during UFO interceptions by doubling the interception time and halving all damage. This prevents your interceptors from getting destroyed by one or two unlucky shots and also makes aborting at low HP a little less risky.
>The dodge, aim and tracking modules have their effects doubled as well. The chance to destroy a UFO has also been adjusted to take into account the halving of damage.

Enhanced Soldier Customization (for Long War)
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/607/?
>This mod allows you to change your soldier's head size, body size and voice pitch from the soldier customisation screen. The range of available skin colours has also been greatly increased - you're no longer limited to skin tones.
>SHIV body size, weapon size and colour can be customised too!

>>121216232

Bugfixes for bonus will and psi
http://www.nexusmods.com/xcom/mods/642/?
>Instances where psi panic would show 100% but still fail.
>Killing an alien who has mind controlled a soldier will not give that soldier the fallen comrade debuff and should fix the bug with 0 will hopefully.
>If an alien dies while being mind controlled, it will not apply the fallen comrade debuff the the rest of the squad and it will not count as a dead squad member for the xp bonus or prevent 'So others may live' from applying.
>Lots of instances where the bonus will from Neural damping, Combat drugs, Legio Patria Nostra, Esprit de corps and penalties from fallen comrade and battle fatigue didn't apply.
>Psi panic had a fixed duration of 2 turn irregardless of how many turns of panic it rolled. Fixed so duration is the same as nr of panic turns.
>If you target a unit that has neural dampning with psi panic it will show 0% chance to hit.
>Fixed so aliens get the same -35 penalty when using mind control as xcom.

It's weird transitioning from gauss to pulse, gauss has so much ammo and an awesome sound

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>>121215912
>>Lost EU Maps

Whats the take on this one? Are the maps doable in LW?

>>121217680

yes, bagel played some of them on tmx

The LnI Base Defense jesus christ all of the Beagleluck involved in saving Scubaman.

Holy. Shit.

>>121218440
not really, the shred was the most lucky thing

>>121222608
Precisely

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>>121217808

That's what I'm talking about. Those stages were kind of buggy and had a lot of textures patched out. Not to mention that there were a lot of pods way too close to each other.

>>121223710
>a lot of pods way too close to each other.

i thought that was a result of his escalation stuff

>get activation
>move people to LE BREAK LOS
>put guys on overwatch
>ayy comes out of the mist
>no one even tries to fire at it
>crits somebody
this game is completely unreasonable

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Pretty bored right now, just don't have the will to grind out my vanilla campaign.

Anyone want to play some multiplayer?

>>121226297

overwatch doesn't trigger on the last tile of movement

git gud

>>121226728
That's pretty unclear way to explain it.

>>121226297
Overwatch does not trigger on the first tile of movement. This means If someone enters the edge of you LOS they won't get shot at.

Or if an ayyy is overwatching someone, you could move them one square in any direction and they wouldn't get shot at.

This does not include moving diagonally

>>121227003
>>121226728
so overwatch, much like cover, is just bait?

>take abduction mission
>xcom crashes
h o l y f u c k

>>121227508
Overwatch is primarily for manipulating alien AI and for getting free shots in on aliens that patrol or drop in on you.

>get abduction missions
>either I can reduce panic and get a bunch of useless scientists, or I can lose a country in the first week so I can get enough engineers to staff satellite monitors and build lasers and shit
why does this game hate giving engineers from countries with any panic
tons of money and scientists from guys who could use a terror mission solved but never fucking engineers

>>121227664
>manipulating alien AI
>sitting dudes on overwatch when ayys are in view to be manipulated
>expecting them to not get instakilled
bait it is

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I love having to not only feel out where's a dash and where's not by looking for a popup instead of having the handy lines on the ground, but I also like having two cursors for no reason

>>121228118

do you also get that thing where tabbing rapidly between soldiers sometimes causes the UI to lag behind?

>>121228517
Yes. It actually just cost me a move since when I clicked, it moved the "wrong" dude. One was highlighted, but a different one was active. Kinda bullshit.

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>if you're near the edge of the map, the camera points straight down and you can't tell what anything is or what can be seen from it

why couldn't they just make it clip through whatever building makes up the edge

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holy FUCK dude nice pathing

you did it, soldier

very job

it was an attempt

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>>121228992
>the ayys shouldn't be allowed a shot in the first place, they said
>just move so you can't be seen, they said
>Break LOS, they said

*cue overwatch fire and subsequent soft-lock as the camera flips out*

>>121208671
vanilla XCOM 2 is going to suck anyway, Firaxis games always need an expansion or two and some mods to become worth playing

>playing XCOM2012 at release
>I/I
>all kinds of pod activation bugs
>teleporting ayys
>on the temple ship door last bugs out
>can't finish the game

>>121212520
it's not a very good game but enjoyable if you're a sucker for XCOM lore

About to do a base assault without any MECs. Any advice?

>>121227820
>tons of money and scientists from guys who could use a terror mission solved but never fucking engineers

play LW instead

>>121230206

don't get shot

>>121230206
Bring MECs

>>121230206
Don't forget about itchy tentacle trigger finger

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Sweet Fucking Christ, why wont the leave alone!?

>>121232250
I need to know...will the rifles finish in time?

>thin mint out there in the mist
>can't overwatch because ayys cheat and just come to the edge so it never works
>can't rush up because early game so no lightning reflexes
>RNG seed has decreed it's a hit and a crit so I can't just dash and hope the dashing bonus works out (which it never does anyway)
save literally ruined

>>121233365
Now I hate to be THAT guy. Or indulge in memes. But... Break los?

>>121232329
Unfortunately no, but I was able to pull though thanks to my SHIVs, I exhausted my entire roster doing those missions.

Hi I'm the nice /v/poster, I'm kind of stubborn so bear with me, I'm bad at strategy games, and I really hate game bugs. Xcom is a strategy game full of bugs. I love suffering. I refuse to have the bugs fixed and gameplay balanced by a mod, because I love suffering.
I also love sharing pain, so I'll just post here about things I suffer from.
Please respond only if you like suffering too. I really like this game, because it makes me suffer.

>>121233365
>hope the dashing bonus works out (which it never does anyway)

i don't want to add fuel to the shitposting fire, but yes the dashing bonus does not work in vanilla. it's only fixed in a recent LW patch.

>>121235835
>but yes the dashing bonus does not work in vanilla.
are you fucking kidding me

I'm pretty sure it says in some tooltip that dashing makes you harder to hit

>>121233365
los is already broken, the ayy was off in the mist somewhere the only big block of high cover (a truck) had part of the team behind it. it's that town square map for your first council mission

>>121235312
normally I'm a bit of a masochist (probably the only reason I didn't drop this shit as soon as it bugged out the first time) but there's a difference between "makes me feel bad like I deserve" and "is just a broken piece of shit in itself"

>>121237147
If it's a broken piece of shit,
why don't you quit?

>>121237535
I dunno brah

I just dunno

>>121237147
>I'm pretty sure it says in some tooltip that dashing makes you harder to hit

That doesn't mean it works, it's a Firaxis game.

Civ5 had a MP trade exploit that took 2 lines of code to fix, people posted the fix on their forums and it still took them 4 years to finally patch it.

>>121237704
>people defend this garbage

>>121237603
You know, it's annoying to everyone if you play a game for no reason and complain about bugs that everyone knows about.

Do you have to rename ceptors in LW for the pilot experience to work? The wiki is a bit ambigious.

>>121238736

nope

>rescue mission
>see the guy
>but there's ayys about
>literally every turn, the rescue target nags for like 20 minutes about where they are
BECAUSE I FUCKING FORGOT RIGHT

>>121239497

talking about Portent?

the way they hijack camera is fucking annoying, but for fucks sake stop exaggerating shit.

do adjacency bonuses apply vertically, or do the facilities have to be on the same level

basically, has XCom managed to invent stair technology or is that something I have to mod in

>>121240085
Yes, they apply vertically. 2x3 and 3x2 give same bonuses.

They do not apply diagonally.

>>121216076
>All Perks Per Rank
How does this mod works? Does it means i can choose Squadsight in a level and then Snapshot in another? And i can ignore ranks of two shitty perks like Dense Smoke - Combat Drugs to pick revive and suppresion for a support?

>>121240901

nope, instead of choosing one perk per rank and making a specific build it would just give you all at once. Like for example the Scout choice at TSGT between Concealment/In The Zone/Hit and Run. Normally you'd have to select one but with the mod it would give you all of them.

>>121241378
oh that's babby bullshit
download cancelled

>>121241546
>babby bullshit

I know we're all such massive scrubs that we need to install LW (which everybody agrees is basically ultra-casual mode and doesn't increase difficulty in the slightest ever) to get past the first mission on classic.

And everyone knows that EW is the pinnacle of skill-based gameplay (which is why you always complain about nothing ever mattering in the tactical gameplay) surpassing even Dark Souls. But your apparent lack of reading comprehension should be no reason to give up now. It might work with vanilla! Keep trying. For us. Please.

>>121241957
>getting all the perks and not having to choose between them doesn't make it babby bullshit

false-flagging as an LW Babby to disparage that mod, or genuinely bad at games and trying to cover for it despite downloading actual easy mode mods? probably the latter

>overwatch just literally does nothing now
this game seems to degrade the more I play it

>>121242037

so, what's the difference between getting all perks at level-up in vanilla and getting all perks at level-up in long war?

besides, nobody said it had to be downloaded, just like the other thousand easy-mode mods. It's there to be added in the pastebin if someone wants it.

>see an ayy run around a corner
>grenade the wall
>ayy is not visible
>"maybe I was just wrong??? what is going on"
>pan the camera around, tab between my guys
>return to the dude I was gonna use to shoot the ayy now that the wall is down
>suddenly, he sees the outsider
poorly constructed game tbqh

>>121242374
>in long war?
holy shit are you retarded

no one was talking about LW, anon said something about "All Perks Per Rank"

i.e. get ALL PERKS

or is LW indeed a casualization mod that gives you all the perks per rank so you don't even have to choose builds and can just have everything?

>>121242374
Can you read at all? I didn't wanted a mod to get all perks at the same time, i wanted a mod that let me skip perks i dont want from a rank so i could have two or three from another. Like skipping Dense Smoke and Combat Drugs in vanilla for suppression

giving you all the perks at once regardless if it's in LW or Vanilla. sorry if i hurt your babby feelings

>>121242514
>no one was talking about LW

are you sure? the description of the mod states "You will gain the bonus stats (will, aim, etc) of the chosen perk". Does that happen in vanilla?

And then it goes on to say "Works with 1, 2, or 3 perks per rank, and in every version of Long War I've tested it on."

finally, "Install with PatcherGui or LW Mod Manager"

if you had read the description of the mod at all it would have been obvious. It might actually work with vanilla. Have you even tried it?

>>121242607
>i wanted a mod that let me skip perks

from a mod labelled "All Perks Per Rank"

really? what the actual fuck did you think it did? have you even read the description?

>>121242769
oh god you are really retarded

i'm so sorry for mocking you
you never asked to be born this way

>>121242827

you know it bebe ;^)

maybe explain it to me in clear english? words are hard sometimes. It must be all this Long War that's made me retarded.

>>121242981
Alright here's in clear english for you:
"All Perks per Rank" might also means "you can choose all perks in a rank", not only "you will automatically gain all the perks in a rank", which is what that anon asked for.

Also, "you are a gigantic moron".

>get a free sniper from japan
>give him squadsight
>it literally doesn't work

if anything, my squadsight sniper has a better view of some punk floater, but nah, he can't see it because it's two tiles off. only the heavy can have a shot. may as well not have given him the fucking perk I guess

>>121242671
the guy literally said
> instead of choosing one perk per rank and making a specific build it would just give you all at once.
which is babby shit and if you disagree then holy shit you are garbage at video games

>>121243398
>>get a free sniper from japan
>>give him squadsight
>>it literally doesn't work
oh fuck its getting worse
>take him to a terror mission
>it's his third mission
>he has killed literally no one yet
>made literally no shots
I think he is actually bugged in some way, this nigga is literally worse than a rookie. I don't even care if he dies as long as no one panics. fuck this asshole. useless chink nigger

>>121243219
>"you can choose all perks in a rank", not only "you will automatically gain all the perks in a rank"

uh

what's the difference? because you could freely choose one perk in a rank, verus grabbing all of them at the same time.

>you are a gigantic moron

yes, very true.

>>121243593
>uh
>what's the difference?
Holy shit are you fucking serious now
He even gave you a goddamn example

>>121243628

1000% serious

i don't see the difference between getting all perks per rank and getting all perks per rank.

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>>121243592
>someone kills Sgt. Hashimoto
>"ah yes. good. he was a shitter anyway. rip in fucking piss. unlike literally every other soldier who I refuse to even let be damaged, he will not be missed"
>game hangs up for several minutes during the ayy activity phase as nothing happens and he goes into the bleeding-out ragdoll state

even in death he continued to ruin everything with his incompetence

rest in fucking piss and also in pieces asshole

>>121243716
>>121243593
you are dumb as shit

it's one perk per rank

versus more than one perk per rank

>>121243870
>one perk per rank
>versus more than one perk per rank

but the name of the mod is "All Perks Per Rank"

what leads people to belive it's anything but what's described on the tin?

i mean in >>121240901
he wanted to know if he could do something utterly bizarre and skip levels and choose perks from other levels? like nothing that a mod had ever offered or even physically suggested before. totally outside the boundary of reality.

>>121244091
Which part of "instead of putting my point from a choice of Dense Smoke or Combat Drugs i would put it in Suppression instead" you just can't understand

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>>121244091
you are dumb as shit my man

>>121244150

the fact that they're not on the same rank, probably. Revive/Rifle Suppression is a Lieutenant choice versus the Captain selection of Combat Drugs vs Dank Smoke

is it purely hypothetical?

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I'M FUCKING INVINCIBLE

Have anyone ever taken fire rocket on engineers?
Mine usually have atrocious aim anyways.
They should replace fire rocket with LnL.
I started doing the bulletwizard engie build, and LnL would make it so damn good.

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>>121244412
ANOTHER ONE JUMPED UP LIKE SHIT WAS GONNA BE ALRIGHT
>get lasers and perks on assaults and supports with scopes
>game moves from "jesus christ why doesn't the HUD even work, why is everything so poorly designed, why is there no recourse to literally anything" to "RULES OF NATURE"
you people were right
game is still constructed like shit though and is frustratingly buggy and kills the momentum every five seconds by having the camera hang up or the HUD stop working or w/e. also this difficulty curve is dumb as fuck

also all these guys died

>>121244485
I second this. But it could replace ranger as well.

>>121244370
that's what i intended with a mod that let you have all perks in a rank. make more choices about how i spend my perk points instead of being forced to pick one i don't like

not having them all anyway without having to compromise

get it?

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>>121244607
literally warcrimes tbqh

what the fuck is this difficulty curve

>tutorial literally forces a near squad wipe just to make a point
>bad luck on the 1st-3rd missions in terms of rewards means the game is a sure loss by month 2
>but if you have Beams by Flo by your first terror mission, the tactics game is just "How fast can I be the most violent I can possibly be" and the strategic game is just Satellite Tycoon

horrible design

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>>121244826
This ended the mission. I think it was like 4 turns? 2 of which were just rushing to civilians before even making contact with enemies??

>only 8 enemies
it felt like fewer and I'd already beaten a medium splashed ufo with more?? what is going on in this fucking game. didnt even have to savescum with crysalids around. what is even going on anymore

>>121239497
NOT FAIR IF I HAVE ALL THE FUN

>>121244929
>terror mission with only 8 ayys
>13/18 civilians saved

I forgot how much of a cakewalk vanilla terrormissions were.

The only time they are scary is the very first time when rape-bugs get introduced.
Kinda like Site Recon

>>121246457
i think he's talking about anna sing screaming HELP ME I'M HERE HELP HEEEEELP every goddamn turn

van doorn is annoying too tho

>>121246743
>anna sing
I had to google that.
I forgot she even existed, considering that mission isn't in LW or EW
I think she was my first council mission ever now that I think about it.

>>121246710
>The only time they are scary is the very first time when rape-bugs get introduced.
not really since their AI is dumb as shit and you can just laser them down without much thought since they don't have guns

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>long war
>my 3rd brutal campaign
>still stacking defense instead of HP
>it just werks
>when will i learn
>they are bound to hit some 5-10% crits right?

>>121247240
You're usually not prepared for how sanicspeed they are in your first playthrough, nor the fact that they oneshot.
Even if their AI is dumb you don't know how to exploit it properly, and often enough the lids will just scatter off into the fog and kill civilians, causing a flood of zombies.

I got fucking rekt on my first time. Restarted the mission and got through it without casualties, but nearly had a squadwipe the first time because I didn't know what the fuck was going on.

Does regen biofield work on the user?

>>121249141
does benis work on bagina?

>>121250139
yes

>>121250245
cool

>>121249141
It also works on critically wounded soldiers, keeping them from dying as long as the Regen Biofield soldier is in range.

Anyone know if they keep the health they got while lying on the ground when being revived?

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>>121207830
THE FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE

>>121253606
I miss the good old gays of x-com

>>121244815
Part of the game's design is the compromises you make. It'd be fucking broken if you could take ITZ and DT on a sniper. In LW you can even have snapshot and squadsight on the same guy, but at the cost of two other powerful perks.

>>121253519
What do you mean? They get the one HP from being stabilized, but I don't think they get more health after being revived. I don't take revive on medics though.

>>121253728
>Part of the game's design is the compromises you make

I'm not asking for an extra point here, you got me wrong. I'd still compromise a point in another skill to have revive and suppression in the same guy. and you wouldn't be able to have double tap and ITZ on the same guy because it's the last tier skill and you wouldn't have any more points after choosing one of them

>>121253835
Oh, I see what you mean. You want to be able to go back and pick a perk you missed earlier, in lieu of the perks at whatever tier.

>>121253829
I meant that Regen Biofield "heals" the critically wounded soldier every turn, giving them 1 HP in their healthbar back. They're still critically wounded tho. While under the effect of regen biofield it seems like they can't die either

I was wondering if this "healed" hp from regen biofield would stay after being revived

>>121253989
yeah, basically this
would be interesting for training roulette games too

>knows re-adding the enemy unknown maps is probably a terrible idea
>Does it anyway
Hell, that museum street map was devoid of cover even for four operatives. Rocketeers will probably be indispensable.
I'm starting to feel some of that map fatigue myself, I guess.

>>121254749
street hurricane is still in the game

>>121255064
...and?

>>121255931
I'm a beautiful x-com player too

>>121255931
that map is terrible

>>121256375
Exactly.

>>121254749
>>121223831

That's why I'm worried about those maps. The patrols, Escalation Mod or not, may get a little too close from each other and you don't have that much of a cover to begin with.

>>121244607
Congratulations. You've won XCOM.

No, really. This what we've been saving all along - Early game is absolutely the hardest part, and once you get beam lasers and carapace armor, the game is basically over, and the rest is just a formality. With an alien base assault soon, your panic troubles will be gone, and titan armor and plasma weapons will soon follow.

This is why we play Long War. The early game is easier, yes, but alien research means that aliens start strong and get strong, not just with more aim, HP, defense, and DR, but also gaining additional perks. It swaps out vanilla's reverse difficulty curve for a more standard one.

>>121263829
Long war early game still has its pitfalls, ballistic weapons are even worse now with DR, annoying drones, and sectoids abuse their psi bullshit more.

>>121264108
Oh certainly. Easier does not mean easy.

>>121264108
yeah too bad you have 6 squaddies with tons of new tech and skills to fight these still laughable weak sectoids and you even have some new base abilities that makes the game even more broken like giving you tactical rigging right out of the bat if you pick stuff like Jungle Scouts as a starting bonus

Mid to End game Long War is hell. No comparison with Vanilla. But early game LW is way easier than Classic and Impossible, no dancing around it

>>121264531
6 squaddies who can't hit shit, while every pod is 5-7 sectoids mind merging, fraying and panicking all of your guys while taking potshots from upgraded low cover. It's easier, but not easy.

What perk should I pick for MSGT Marauder? Most of the other perks are defensive, but run n gun seems more fun than absorption fields.

>>121264531
>and you even have some new base abilities that makes the game even more broken like giving you tactical rigging right out of the bat if you pick stuff like Jungle Scouts as a starting bonus

Have fun playing as snails

>>121266351
>Have fun playing as snails
aka every LW player ever? wew high mobility sure is important too bad i only move everyone together 1 tile while overwatching and waiting for aliuns anyway

>>121266524
>he doesn't sanic through missions moving to the best cover, flanking and getting the meld
It's like you hate fun.

The only time I move slow is during terror missions (because fuck civilians) or during missions in which time is not of the essense, and even then the mobility of your soldiers is important

Besides, Jungle Scout is shitty in the long run. It's just a fun change of pace at the start.

dead

>EXALT has better looking guns
>better looking base
>better looking clothing

why can't i be EXALT again

>>121271147
>Better looking guns

Only part I agree with.

>>121207830
>MGS-themed codename list:
>https://www.dropbox.com/s/plfug9tz86zp56s/DefaultNameList%20(code%20names%20b15).ini?dl=0
lol why is this still here?

>>121271147
>no shotguns
>no psi
Into the trash they, and you, go.

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>>121271316

They are kinda nice.

>>121271147
>better looking guns
oh look a g36
a g36 with red lights

nah they're boring
sure, less goofy than the XCOM designs but I prefer the unique look

>>121271627
>memeguns
>using dirty paranormal shit

wew you just made EXALT looks even better

also i forgot
>no bradford
>no vahlen

>>121271750
>xcom smoke

triggered

>>121271785
>hating fun
>hating your best buddies
Stop being such a hothead, senpai.

>>121271785
You think Vahlen and Bradford are bad?
I'd say EXALT's leader, * STATIC NOICE BRGHHGHTTTTT* is a lot worse.
You don't even know what the fuck he's telling you to do so you're just guessing and hoping you do it right. No wonder they always lose.

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>exalt guns
I disliked them so much I modded them out.

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>>121271906
>>xcom smoke
>triggered

It really works every time.

>>121271627

B-But the PIMP Base!

>>121273285
The Pimp base is a smoldering wreck

>>121272098
It's static? I thought it was dubstep.

Anyways, is anyone streaming? Or should I?

>>121273449
go for it

>>121273591
redsnoipah on twitch is live

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>>121273285
>cute
>>121273370
preciesly.

>11 misses in a row
>chances varying from 46% (the lowest i took) to fucking 97%
>ELEVEN FUCKING MISSES IN A ROW
>then the aliuns critted and killed my entire squad

fuck

this

game

>>121247851
I'm having trouble imagining how something could be feral without a mouth.

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are people still incessantly complaining about the game?

it's kind of tiring, everyone fucking knows the game has a lot of bullshit, we fucking know, bad games can still be enjoyed

i preferred magnificent, at least complaining about LW specifically is somewhat understandable

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>>121274287

Is it? All I see is black.

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>>121276510
>>All that expensive bling... Gone...

But what triggers me to this day is how EXALT don't have pistols. LW could have used some standard issue guns in the ballistic tier.

>>121279318
I can see it

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>>121279606

I can see it now.

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>>121274287

Someone is having a bad time.

Wait. Did he just said this is Site Recon in April?

I just liberated the first country the aliens captured, and now I have a hyperwave beacon. Should I build the relay now or wait until I have firestorms on every continent like in vanilla?

>>121272649
lol for a sec I was like how did you get pulse so quickly

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>>Only the Sniper survived Site Recon.

Thats quite appropriate.

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>>121279521
rip agsald

>>121277137
Don't get too close

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>>121283767
>>All those fields.

They make the heliport look like something out of the Playstation.

>>121285260
it was from when you could choose between dist and regen biofield.

>>121281896
Had a terror mission on april 3rd.
>>121283335
I just imagine the scout saying 'Get to the skyranger, I'll be right behind you" before running into the barge.

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>>121276941

REDS is having something like that right now.

If your mind controlled chryssalid kills a civilian, you'll get a zombie for yourself that will turn into a chryssalid after 2 turns.
These will show up as soldier casualities on AAR

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>>121285816

The 'lids were (apparently) not following you very well. Couldn't you just try to save the Scout as well?

>>121285816

I missed the very last part of that landed small. How did it went?

>>121285856
stream over
>>121286186
No, otherwise I risk the sniper dying too, knowing my luck they were going for him.

>>121286618
No one else died/took damage, everyone started hitting again.

"Only" lost the assault.

>>121286138
Do the civilians show up in the memorial too?

What textures and texture packs do you use?

>>121289216

Urban camo v2.1 and 2.2 (body armor/helmet textures)

something called MEC CAMO.tpf that i literally can't be arsed to figure out, i think it's just from the urban camo mod

Facialhairmod v2.1 for balaclavas and shit.

However I don't know of any mods that allow you to have 100% black armor. I want to do some fucking black ops task force shit.

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>>121286703
>>No, otherwise I risk the sniper dying too, knowing my luck they were going for him.

Fair enough. Still kinda sad.

>>121286914
>>"Only" lost the assault.

The Assault is the one who got the short end of the stick when "everyone started hitting again" happened.

Do you guys use rocketeers in long war?

How do you build them?

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>>121295242
I use them very often on missions where I expect annoying shit like seekers or robots. My build is like this. IMO rocketeers should be focused entirely on rocket perks. Shredder ammo is very important, I'd take both the perk and the equipment item.

>>121287631
Sadly, no

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Ayy the baguettes are safe once more.

..................

I JUST MISSED TWO 99% SHOTS IN A ROW

HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE

>>121296719
What's worse is having two 60% shots on an exposed muton elite miss.

>>121295242
HEAT
FitH
Shredder
Mayhem
EC
Javelins
They are great against 7+ alien pods in general, because they rarely cluster.
HEAT also makes them do a ton of single target damage, mainly on sectopods.
I always go for heavy psionics on them;
Mind Fray
Psi Panic
So they get all around useful.
They scale slowly and pretty useless early game, but once you get hold of a blaster launcher and psi panic, they will be the shining star of the squad.
Corsair Armor/Vortex Armor
SMG/Carbine
+1 Rocket
SCOPE/Mind Shield
Walker Servos

>>121296880
NO

IT'S NOT WORSE

MY FUCKING ASSAULT MISSED A 99% SHOT ON A THIN MAN RIGHT BESIDES HIM

THEN I FLANKED WITH MY SUPPORT, 99% AGAIN AND HE FUCKING MISSED TOO

AND OF FUCKING COURSE THE FUCKING THIN MAN SCORED A FUCKING CRITICAL AND KILLED MY CAPTAIN

>>121297285
R I P
Captain
His shortsightedness was his undoing
- regards, Thin Man

ALRIGHT I'M FUCKING DONE
>game bugs out when i tried to approach the VIP in portent with my 1hp support
>i keep walking around him and he never activates
>i have to save and load to see if it fixes it (playing ironman btw)
>AS SOON AS THE GAME FUCKING LOADS MY GUY PANICS FOR SOME GODDAMN REASON AND SHOOT THE FUCKING VIP
>GAME FUCKING OVER

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>>121297783
Should've broken LOS before reloading.

>>121297783
That doesn't make any sense. That's impossible.

>>121298819
i don't fucking know how that's possible either but it happened
my guy panicked out of nowhere and shot the VIP. i don't fucking know why. i don't fucking know why i couldnt activate the VIP before saving and exit either. fuck this shitty game

>>121299160
iirc if the vip doesn't activate with one guy, you're supposed to approach him with a different guy and then it'll activate

>>121299160
Hold on, did someone need stabilization before that happened? The VIP thing is a known bug that was fixed in LW, but maybe someone bled out.

>>121299736
>Hold on, did someone need stabilization before that happened?
yes
oh shit don't tell me stabilize is bugged

>>121299865
>Here are included bugs that have been deemed unsolvable by the Long War development team and have been present in the original game as well. As it stands, with the limited modding capabilities at hand, the Long War team can not resolve them.
>Loading savegames in tactical missions can cause problems, including: recheck of panic when a soldier is critically wounded and awaiting stabilize; cancelling hunker down status; resetting certain flags intended to prevent you from doing things like using Run and Gun and Close Encounters on the same turn, cars exploding on the same turn. These can be exploits and you should feel really, really bad for using it.

If you guys care, Anzleon is about to go on the temple ship LW I/I. He .ini edited for more Steam vents (only used two) but I think that's it.

http://pastebin.com/88b8yig8

>>121301524
who

>>121296719
you know you can hit 2 1% shoots in a row too right? if you are alien

>>121301524
>bringing battle scanners to the temple ship
lol it's literally the same as vanilla

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>>121303068

Why there were no Seekers in the Temple Ship? Why couldn't you use Chimaeras in the final level of Warcraft III? Where is Half-Life III? These and lots of other questions still remain unanswered.

Long War Impossible, should I even attempt first landed cargo ufo? I got rekt playing on classic, but I didn't have as good of a start then.

Most powerful perk combination, discuss (long war, any class, training roulette/hacking allowed)

>>121304429
All of them? Imagine a sniper with ITZ Double Tap and Mayhem would be terrifying

>>121304273
It's your call, if you succeed it's a big boost to early game

>>121301524
this dude is not respecting the level 9 muton elite damn

>>121308923
>it's a shitty broken SCAR
pimpmygun was a mistake

>>121301524
this nigga is dumb af

gets raped by praetorians because "lol I know their perks guise"

>>121304926
>mayhem
why mayhem?

Why not a high aim gunner with squadsight and covering fire?

>>121297783
literally just git gud.

>>121311972
Mayhem is +4 damage on Sniper and Strike Rifles.

>>121311972
Mayhem is a big, big deal on sniper/mm/strike. +4 base damage guarantees a kill on most opponents.

LMG gives you squadsight by default

>>121313345
>LMG gives you squadsight by default
what the fuck

LW is a sham

>>121313713
Also can't move and fire in the same turn, and slows movement heavily.

>>121313901
neither could snipers but they didn't get squadsight until 3rd rank

>>121314041
Squadsight on LMG adds +5 tiles of range. It gives an additional +5 tiles of range per level of elevation you have. Sniper Rifles have infinite Squadsight range.

>>121314041
LW Snipers start with Squadsight. And it's much better than LMG Squadsight.

>>121313713
It's very limited squadsight, only 5 tiles

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>>121311592

At least they tried.

dead

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My current status in the ayy base assault

>>121323767
shoulda broken LOS

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>there are people who bother armoring their guys until they get skeleton/archangel armor
literally just already admitting you're bad and are throwing your men into enemy fire for no reason

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>>121326617
Here your (you)?

>>121327836

why did you even bother responding to him

>>121327869
Because its not like we have an overabundance of posts up. He gets his (you), and the maybe the thread won't die.

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>>121324870

B-But that will only make all the pods come straight after us!

Caught up on Live and Impossible. Beagle going crazy the last few epsiodes. Is the new Twitch thing he's doing worth checking out? I catch a slight bit of it before I get bogged down in classes.

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>>121329934

It's nice but if you are limited on time you should check the "Best of Beagle" you-tube videos.

>>121331371
Will do.

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>>121336221
>>121337005
>>121338928
>TELL ME ABOUT XCOM, WHY DOES HE WEAR THE AYY!?

Aylamo

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>>121340854

AYY

>>121343706

rules of nayyture

Why bio-tanks are shit in LW:
MECs have 40% more Armor HP.
Assault: ~21
Goliath: ~49
MECs can get 5.5 innate DR
Bio can only get 4(+1 if psi screen)innate DR

The strength of bio comes from being in cover. (+2.5DR in full cover)
Cover means defense, which is bad if you want the aliens to shoot your tank.(Fortiores una gives +1 but hunkering is just flat out retarded unless aliens can't see or move to see anyone else but the tank)

Oh and I didn't even mention absorption fields(which is still good after nerfs)
If anyone has any point for using biotanks, pls tell

>>121344007
Or you could just try not to get hit in the first place instead of relying on tanks like it's some kind of RPG.

>>121345095
Having a tank is the way to not get hit for the other 7 soldiers.

>>121343706
looks awful desu

like its trying to appeal to the fukken asscred market or something

>>121345095
You can't play completely out of sight unless you cheese with 3 engineers and 5 snipers every mission.
In those moments when aliens get a chance to shoot at you I'd rather take a 65% hit 5 damage shot than a 25% hit 29 crit.

>>121343706
everything about this new x-com is too edgy
i'm hating it

>>121347903
yeah

it's just... not xcom. it's not even xcom themed. it has mechanics dissimilar to xcom. the scenario is entirely different. what is even the point of calling it xcom anymore

>>121348146
>>121347903
Ya'll some whinebaby ass niggas. I bet you think Fallout 3 is superior in every way to New Vegas too, don't you?

>>121348781
...your comparison makes no sense

if anything it's the opposite - idiots liking this new x-com would love Fallout 3 and hate NV for being "too boring" and "serious"

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>>121348146
People not knowing about melee weapons, only on /xcg/.

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>>121348781
not only is >>121348874 correct but also you just revealed that you have shit taste in that you think F3 wasn't superior to NV in every way

>>121348874
Your analysis makes no sense either.

But what I'm saying is you're a whinebaby bitch that just wants Enemy Unknown with Long War but made as an entirely different game, just with absolutely no changes made at all.

>>121348926
It has nothing to do with using melee weapons you moron

It's the entire way they did the new melee weapons with the DARK BROODING HOODED SAMURAI GUY PSHHH NOTHING PERSONNEL ALIUN

>>121349047
>waaah you hate changes

No, i hate dumb changes
I don't want the same game, but i don't want Shadow The Hedgehog Tactics too

>>121349110
>Giving you more variety and options for combat is a bad thing

Okay, pal. You hate content and like being led along a linear path to make sure you don't actually have to form your own tactics. I get it, I do. It's hard for you casuals to play these games so you need your hands held.

>>121348926
In fact, thanks for using TftD as an example
Because TFTD is goofy in the good way and i would love playing a new version of it

This X-COM is the worst kind of goofy, the one where they take themselves too seriously and muh serious plot muh saving the universe instead of just making you harpoon overpowered lobstermen in a coral reef and swimming slowly for your life

>>121349246
>if you didn't liked the exaggerated sword sequence you hate changes, you want linearity, you don't want any new content and you're a casual


Do you even have a license to move this many goalposts

>>121349281
the same thing regurgitated into my face over and over and over and over sure is fun anon

>>121349110
>guerilla fighter has a hood
>"WOW SURE IS EDGY IN HERE MAXIMUM EGDE LE HEDGEHEG COLDSTEELE MAYMAY"

/xcg/, quality posting.

Let's just completely forget about the guy that looks like a terrorist, or the fact that XCOM in general has a wacky action-figure thing going on

>>121349394
>everything new is good regardless of the content just because its new

You're a fucking moron, you know it

>>121348926
>legit trying to compare a brooding hooded Ubisoft Assassin ripoff to to goofy shit that was UFO Defense and TFTD's "melee combat" of guys in dumpy beige coveralls poking ayys with cattle prods until they stopped whining

nah man that new xcom looks edgy as shit and its designs are dumb as heck

see also: that weird Age of Mythology new enemy that looks like some kind of wierd futurized roman god statue with angel wings, or the new "Totally Not From Halo, We Swear" armor that ADVENT will be wearing

>>121349509
>or the new "Totally Not From Halo, We Swear" armor that ADVENT will be wearing
The fact that you seriously think that Halo was first with that kind of shit should be enough reason to just end yourself.

>>121349614
it reminds me most of Halo because that vertical strip visor thing is the default helmet in Reach if you play MP

it's also the most recent and arguably most popular franchise around right now that uses it, and most of XCom2's designs are clearly just trying to "appeal to a wider fanbase" i.e. rip off everything vaguely popular right now at once

>>121349614
>what is culture apropriation

You fucking moron
He never said Halo did it first, but Halo popularized it and when people see that shit today, they think of Halo and not Marathon or whatever old bullshit you will use as an example

Just like vampire in movies started with Nosferatu but you can bet your ass people are going to remember them as Interview with the Vampire shit

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>>121349696

can you believe how lazy firaxis, just blatantly copying designs from other games?

i mean look at this. literally no difference between the two

>>121349953
>showing just the helmet cuz he knows he's wrong
>not knowing that that was a helmet in the MP modes since like Halo 2 anyway
fuck outta here nigga

>>121350281

Mark V[B] is the default armour in Halo Reach.

it's never been in any other game.

>>121344007
Bios tanks are good for versatility and psi power. I have both mecs and biotanks

>>121347903
>edgy

The developers have blatantly admitted that the aliens are now final fantasy villains and your soldiers are just cool second-wave action figures, and you think it's 'edgy'.

>>121350426
>The developers have blatantly admitted that the aliens are now final fantasy villains
Because Final Fantasy never had edgy villains before right?

>>121350563
Outside of media reaction to Sephiroth? Not really. Most are ladyboys and fashion show rejects.

>>121350563
>FFVII is the only game in the series

>>121350985
>FFVII is the only game i know

From I to VIII the only non-edgy villain was Kefka and even then he became pretty edgy after world of ruin

Refreshing breather in IX

From X onwards everything became a boring edgy and bawling fest

Haven't you ever fucking played XIII for fucks sake

In fact that melee from that ranger is totally the SUPER COOL LIGHTNING MOVES SHE'S SO AWESOME AND MYSTERIOUS WITH A ~DARK PAST~

>>121349281
The only goofy stuff is the gillmen, since they are a pretty lazy copycat of the creature from the Black Lagoon. Lobstermen are not goofy at all.

>>121351369
That machete is the only "edgy" part of the trailer.

>>121350368
>>121344007
You don't need tanks if you have enough raw damage to clean up pods the turn they activate.

>>121352012
>You don't need tanks
This sentence is wrong
If you can have tanks you always need tanks

>>121352012
I do often have that kind of firepower, but sometimes you get really nasty pod placements. Yesterday I was doing a base assault and opened the last big holodoor to be greeted by a gunstar, thin men and a dreadnaught. The next turn four muton elites and an ethereal showed up. Most of my team had bad angles on the discs and they fired on activation. I only survived because my goliath, marauder and bio tank were able to flame the mutons and lure the discs into range of my gunners.

>>121331371
What is this, and where can I find more like it?

>>121353670
Pimp my gun

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>>121353724
I think we all learned an important lesson today kids.
...
I can't design guns. Nor can I pimp them.

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>1 webm triggers /xcg/ like nothing before
fascinating

Why can't you take battle scanners on people other than scouts and engineers?

>>121357101

because it's restricted in the ini

Do destroyer ufos use the same layout as the overseer ufo? It feels familiar.

>>121357843
>- Crashed destroyer missions will now take place on Overseer maps (with overseer mission-related stuff stripped). Destroyers now carry 4 UFO Power Sources that can be salvaged. They will have a few more aliens than in the past.

beta 15c

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>>121350426
>aliens are now final fantasy villains
I'm okay with this.

>>121357973
That's a really cool way to mix it up.

>>121343706
Stupidest thing in the whole trailer, and the only thing that dampened my enthusiasm on June 1.

Speaking of which, where were all of you when XCOM 2 was announced? I was at work, struggling not to scream out loud.

>>121367235

i was on xcg, shouting OH MY GOD YES and making webms from the trailer

https://xcom.com/news/en-dont-get-in-the-andromedons-way-in-xcom-2
New enemy

>>121367475
Look it's a Big Daddy

Firaxis is so original

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>>121367475
>The Andromedon’s Battlesuit also has an internal coolant that corrodes organic tissue, and our recon teams have witnessed the creature launch this acidic liquid at its enemies. On impact, the liquid splatters and pools, further damaging any XCOM soldier caught within it.

what the absolute fuck.

>>121367589
Big Daddies were great, so this doesn't really affect me, to be desu honest

>>121367813
Holy shit this look EXACTLY like the big daddy launching a mine

>>121367841
I don't have any problems either, if anything it's the less stupid new design we've seen

But you can't fucking deny it's a blatant big daddy ripoff

>>121367906
>a big suit = big daddy ripoff
Jesus fucking Christ, some of you underages should think what you're saying before posting.

>>121368403

/v/ shitter deliberately posts shit opinions just to garner replies. Maybe you shouldn't react in such an easy way.

>>121367813
>what the absolute fuck

>AoE attack

my god right? I could have never thought that they'd add something like that!

>>121355015
What do you mean "like nothing before"? /xcg/ explodes in autism at least once every two weeks about random topics, usually related to lore or gameplay feel/theme.

>>121367475
I can't wait to smack this guy with a big crit, watch the glass/whatever casing to bust open and this horrifying creature to spill out and then charge my squad while the suit continues to steadily advance forward, destroying cover and shooting squaddies trying to get away from whatever is inside.

>>121369027
That and the first burrowed chryssalid encounter will be golden.

>>121369784
Yeah. I kinda wish they hadn't announced some of this so we could enjoy reacting to it or see streamers reacting to it for the first time.

>>121369909

they probably wont understand the implication of the cocoon and how it spawns 3 additional chryssalids

might be good for moments of absolute panic

>>121370152
too bad chryssalids have even less health and the cocoons will take more than one turn to burst so spacebugs are even more of a joke than before where they were scary for maybe a month and then could be oneshotted by almost everyone

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So from this thread we can conclude that Firaxis has ripped off the following francises
-Assassin's Creed
-Halo
-Age of Mythology
-Bioshock
-the fanfics from monstergirl faggots over at /d/
-The Dark Knight Rises movie villain

Anything I missed?

>>121371242
>-The Dark Knight Rises movie villain
So the game is saved then.
Based Firaxis.

>>121371104
Yeah, but how much health does the cocoon have? Probably your gonna be fighting a dug in advent troopers, send your ranger out for a flank, then blam, unborrowed chryssalid pops up and kills him.

Now you fighting ADVENT, and lid, while trying to destroy the cocoon.

In optimal situations lids are never that threatening, they are all about taking a bad situation and making it into a nightmare. While one alien might have critted your soldier and killed him when you screwed up, lids can lead to situations where you either squadwipe or bail. Don't forget they still apply acid, and now if a soldier dies from acid they still cocoon.

>>121371242
they ripped Alien too! the talentless hacks!

>>121371835
>unburrowed 6hp or less chryssalid pops up and kills a melee unit with a melee OP attack

yeah not happening sorry

>>121372123
Its going to happen just wait. I can't wait to see the special kill animation they get for un-burrowing beneath a soldier.

>>121367475
>https://xcom.com/news/en-dont-get-in-the-andromedons-way-in-xcom-2
>Our observations have also revealed the Andromedon is immune to fire, poison and acid, so don’t bother wasting your enhanced ammunition when encountering this elite alien unit.
Does this perhaps imply that enhanced ammunition types are limited use? Like an ability?

>>121371242
your mom

>>121372551
i think it just means "don't try to shoot andromedons with fire or acid ammo silly"

>>121372551
Would make sense, but I hope its not too limited. Maybe like a toggle ability that you can use x amount of times per mission and it doesn't take an action.

Sort of how motion tracker works in long war, or the rocket boost for mecs to get on top of building/objects.

Could just be a coincidence of wording, but Good catch.

>>121372780
Maybe, maybe not.

>>121372605
She's a big gal

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>>121371242
More like The Bureau design wise and some alien type yet i still love it and excited for it. I wish the add Silacoid and Tech Commander

>>121371557
This

Baneposting is the ultimate meme. It is too incomprehensible for normies and at the same time you can apply it to literally every situation and it never, ever ceases to be funny.

Its a wonderful thing to witness.

>>121373030
>and it never, ever ceases to be funny.

i think you mean "it never, ever is funny"