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The 4 monthly cards are shit edition

>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started

Now in open beta.

Previous thread >>120940149
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we have only the dankest
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>Want to try a different faction
>Feel too invested in the current one to move

;_;
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dead game
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pls play this game
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Hello friends.

How do I counter abyssian death benefit decks?
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What do you think of the new art direction?
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>>121203184
Just make a new account.

>use referral code redditpals for 100g
>do training excercises for ~4 orbs gold
>lvl class you want to play to 11 for 2 orbs
>play game with friend for 1 orb
If you shard everything from all the classes you don't want to play, by the end of the day you'll have a pretty phat deck.
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First 4 replies choose the legos.
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>>121204106

Rook
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>>121204106
rook
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>>121204106
Coldbiter
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>>121204106
rook
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Can you get multiple mechaz0rs in a game?
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>>121203567
dispels are pretty good, but the most that scares me is when you plop down a high def monster. like a Moss or Frost golem
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>>121204928
>but the most that scares me is when you plop down a high def monster. like a Moss or Frost golem
Can't you just dark transform or use the 3 mana 1 for 1 spell for those?
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>>121204291
yes, butI haven't encountered more than 1 a match.
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>>121205069
yes... everything has a counter. bait the spells with lower health the turn earlier.
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>>121204291
No, you cant.
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Anyone got an example of the so called P2W Vetruvian decks?
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>>121205374
no. we don't speak of that deck here.
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>>121205501
Anon please. I beg you.
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>>121205531
3x aymara, 3x stars fury, 3x 3rd wish, 3x portal guardian, 3x pyromancer, 3x rashas curse, 3x sarlac, 3x first wish, 2-3x emerald rejuv + healing mystic, etc etc. pretty much no obelysks cause theyre garbage. Its a bullshit deck.
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>>121205374
the deck that won a tournament months back, most likely outdated.
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>>121205658
>pretty much no obelysks cause theyre garbage.
Really? I was running all 6 on my budget deck...maybe that's why I keep losing. I must admit the number of dispel in the meta really just leaves me using them as roadblocks all too often. Then things like Magmar can globally wipe them out.
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>>121205659
yeah thats.. awful.. nobody would run 3x time maelstrom to any great effect now. Or wildfires or staffs. No artifacts in the new cancer vet.
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I'm already so sick of this game and I've been playing it for like a week and a half. The whole game feels like a fucking coinflip since it's so full of cheap removal and cheaper burst. Whoever draws their cheap removal and burst first wins. If you don't have 30 health by turn 5 you're basically already dead. Fuck this shit
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>>121205854
Someone just lost to Magmar...
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>>121206325
Magmar and Abyssian and Songhai and Vanar and Lyonar you mean.
Vetruvian is the only faction that doesn't win by bursting you down from half your health
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>>121206428
Are you fucking kidding me
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>>121205854
I agree, i was loving it the first month but now it's like HS all over again.

Oh, you drew your game winning combo and I cant draw or cycle into one of my 10 removals/dispels, guess I lose.

Oh, you got Mechazor out and I don't have a way to deal, guess I lose.

No thx on Hearthstone Round 2
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>>121206428
touché
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>>121206808
It's a shame because it was really fun when I was playing with just starting decks, it was a nice pace and the fusion of the turn based strategy and card game elements were neat, but as I got more and more cards and fought more and more people with all the bullshit cards it turned really dumb really fast. There's just way too much cheap removal so everything you play just dies instantly and waaaay too much burst so even if you're winning it doesn't matter if they draw all their combo pieces. Which would be fine if that were only restricted to some combo decks but it's like every fucking game
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>>121206428
>Vetruvian
>Third wish + Stars fury
>Ayylmars
Portal Guardians
>Vet can't burst guise!
Yeah ok
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>>121206808
>>121207167
If you don't like core card game mechanics then don't play card games.
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Guys I just started playing and got Pandora from my second pack. Is she any good?
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>>121207334
That's not core card game mechanics though. Stuff is just way too cheap in this game and it has the same problem hearthstone does where chargers are overpowered since you have no way to stop them except setting up some defense and praying they don't have a way to deal with it
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>>121203734
Man, I've told you to stop with that.
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What a shame, talked to a dev and he basically confirmed that vanar generals will be female only.
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Ayy
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>>121213191
Holy shit, bitch is ugly.
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>>121214996
Typical asymmetrical hair buff tumblr social justice girl. The dev team on this game has proven to be full blown esjaywu.
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Does Dispel remove Mechazor progress?
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>>121215398
don't think so since its an opening gambit more or less
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>>121215487
It shows up as a buff on your general. I'll have to test in the sandbox.
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New units incoming!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHUdNbKvu5c
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>>121213191
Eh, whatever

If there's going to be a faction with lots of female warriors it ought to be the Vikings
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>>121203063
I've gotten my magmar e-z-p-z aggro control deck kicked up and down the battlefield by vanar, it seems expensive to build but it also seems pretty viable
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>>121216380
Vanar seems worse than it is because nobody tries to build viable decks with it because everyone says there aren't any.
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What
Why would you position like this
What
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>>121216810
Maybe he's a former Vanar player
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>>121216898
Why would anyone do this
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>>121204106
>>121204149
>>121204218
>>121204254
>>121204284
fuckin better deliver
3 rooks and a coldbiter
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>get vet quest
>don't play vet
>new, so only have the vet starter deck (not even fully leveled)
>beat multiple people with tricked out decks in a row

I think I'm liking this game.
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I don't think I've ever won this fast before
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You either die a ded game

Or you live long enough to see yourself become Reddit
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>>121215994
This guy looks awesome.

Hopefully if they add new packs they let you pick what you get from arena and don't call it "too confusing" like blizzard.
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>>121217207
If I am going to get a meme card, I might as well meme like the best.
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Why is everyone calling this game dead? How long has it even been playable?

I barely heard about this a week ago and I'm having tons of fun. I mean it just went into open beta didn't it? How could it be dying already?
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>>121221218
The beginning of open beta is the perfect time to double down on marketing, and they're just not doing that
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>>121221218
Hearthstone had like 100 times as many players at this stage.
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Anyone else feel like this game has too many legendaries?
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>>121222059
Anyone else feel like git gud?
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>>121222182
I meant that the number of legendaries is higher compared to HS on a normal to legendary ratio.It's just the core set and classes already have 5 each plus 16 neutrals.
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>>121221938
Hmm... it's almost as if people are attracted to brands.
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>>121220585
the fuck did you even post for then
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>>121222319
Most legends are bad or gimmicky and the whole dust thing makes them have some value if you don't feel like making something silly.

So yeah, lots of 'em, but you don't need all of them.
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>>121222319
Think of them more like MtG's mythics.
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>>121223268
>So yeah, lots of 'em, but you don't need all of them.
le sarlac face
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>>121207510
Need more provoke cards.
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>>121222319
Legendary drop rate is higher too. Also you're able to earn more currency per day than in hearthstone. I've had 2 legendaries drop in hearthstone, and about 15 in this game for roughly the same gametime played.
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If someone starts building mechazor % after he has been summoned can you get a second one?
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>>121224152
Nope. I tried it, didn't work. So, only one large robot a game.
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>>121224303
Aw lame. Did you try building it after he died though?
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>>121224341
I've tested that, and no you only get one per game. Got my Mechazor % to x10.
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>>121224341
I had failed to make the robot a second time once I reached 200% completion. As I said: One robot a game.
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Jesus fuck, I love being lucky. And playing against shitters
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>>121225631
1/3 chance, not even that lucky desu
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>>121225778
I waited 5 turns for it and totally didn't deserve it.
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>leveling lyonar to 11
>can't win even trades vs abyssal and if i try to go for big creatures they just get dark transformed or banished
Fuck, is this a bad matchup or what?
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Is the game laggy for anyone else?
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>>121226497
very, even in the client.
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>>121226497
Only in the crafting menu
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>>121227157
I'm the client and sometimes I can't even move during my turn, while my opponents seem to be just fine. Was fine yesterday.
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>>121226497
Between this and rank 0 faggots having fun in silver, I'm done with this game, at least for a few weeks.
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Are there any guides on how to minmax improve starter decks for players on a budget? Just getting started and wanna get the most out of my spirit.
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How do I draft a good Lyonar deck? I only play Vanar and Vet, so I'm kind of out of my element in Gauntlet.
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GAUNTLET IMMINENT, LADS
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>>121229397
I'm not going to waste my gold when I can barely get 2 wins on Gauntlet. I don't know the first thing about deck building and I'd probably get stuck with classes I don't like like not-Lyonar and not-Abyss
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>>121229706
2 wins still breaks even
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>>121229750
I'm mostly interested in orbs.

>spend 300g to get 2 orbs and about 150 spirit
or
>spend 300g to get 3 orbs

But I'm not sure what you mean by breaks even. What are you comparing it to?
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>>121229926
You mean 2 orbs, 150 spirit and another 50 gold.
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>be lvl 9 vetruvian silver
>get paired vs this guy
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>>121231157
>no Vanar ribbon

what a shitter
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>>121231157
Oh lol don't fucking worry. I get matchmade against that guy all the time. I can't recall a single loss even though he's stacked with legends.
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>>121228214
Play magmar. Craft silithars, eggs and warbeasts. Speĺls are eggs and dispells + control. Get to gold easy.
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>>121231558
I don't even have a third wish in this deck and he's raping me but I'll try.
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>>121231691
>goat in vetruvian
Why though
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Oh wow he wasted that 5/2 on my 4/4 knight and I won with double stars later.

>>121231775
I dunno, I've been playing for like 3 days only. I'm leveling all classes to 10-11 atm.

I will have to get sarlac 2-3x if I wanna play vertuvian or abyss competitively though apparently.
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How do you check individual faction levels?
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>>121232610
Play a match
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>>121232745
that's it? I remember having 6/8 of all lvl 11 packs but I forgot which ones I'm missing.
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>songay plays hamon and juxtapositions it to kill a manaforger
>it can't reach my general next turn
>use hamon's effect to set up lethal
Truly Songay are the ultimate keks.
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>>121215240
what are you on about, the current vanar general is the complete opposite
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>>121233042
You sound mad and hungry for more Songay cock.
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they need to increase the speed of the animations, they're way too slow

the double draw is definitely going to fuck the high end later on, it will basically turn this game into legacy except without any viable denial
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>>121234012
They're changing (censoring) the general art in coming patches. see>>121203734
They lured us in with delicious tits and thighs and now they're taking them away.
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>>121203734
new one looks hotter for me desu senpai
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Does wind stopped work like provoke or can he force people to chase him?
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>>121235371
It's the same art with a gradient over the haram parts.
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>>121235371
I still don't understand why they changed that one but left the Vanar general intact

It makes sense for a demoness to show titty, but a Viking warrior lady would cover up
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>>121235628
No, the enemy general can move past him freely, but if he's next to the Windstopper, he has to attack him before he can attack anything else. Learned that the hard way in Gauntlet
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>>121235932
Ah damn. I guess he's still not terrible for a 1/7. I had to get 1 in gauntlet also.
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>>121235826
Because nobody plays Vanar.
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>>121236121
Could always just dump him in the corner and have him soak Ranged stuff. People actually pick it in arena, so Windstopper is decent enough
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>I didn't put a picture for the OP so it takes me for-fucking-ever to find it in the catalog edition
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>>121237013
You ever hear of this neat function called Ctrl+F?
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>>121237168
yeah, it's a pain in the ass when I'm browsing while chilling in bed and the only way I can find this shit general now

can't wait for it to die
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>>121237168
that fucking image makes me laugh way too hard
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>>121237268
you can also use search mode in catalog

can't wait for you to die
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4 new cards per month?
What is this, they should call the game slothyst instead.
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>>121234178
>except without any viable denial

The game needs Trap cards.

Play them on a space, all traps have same sprite and they're all like 0/2 or something.
They activate during your opponent's turn if they do something.
So like, insta-destroy a creature with 4 or more power if they get summoned
Stop all spells for the turn when their first spell gets cast
They can of course attack the trap to disarm it
Unless it was a trap that specifically goes off when attacked, which would also exist
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>>121237876
still more cards than magic duels
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>>121237954
I think the lack of traps and instants are a big part of the game's design

On your own turn, you can never be blindsided by random shit - you can see the board and know what your options are
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Why is arena mode timed?
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>ALL THESE MAGMAR ARENA DUDES
Why?
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>>121238520
To make sure that everyone plays it at the same time, thereby keeping wait times down while it's open
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>>121238552
>buff ranged fuck with 2/2 spell
>7 wins guaranteed
Why not?
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>>121238583
So it's purely because of low playerbase? I hope they can hold it open more often.
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>>121238653
They're tweaking Gauntlet in the next patch, maybe they'll make it open 24/7
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>>121238705
so no one will play ranked then
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>>121239075
they will when they run out of gold
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>>121239140
Not if I get Magmar and Vetruvian every time.
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>play first gauntlet
>pick Vanar
>draft okay deck, nothing groundbreaking
>9 wins
Well okay
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>>121239241
Not having enough dispel and removals makes Vanar and Magmar ridiculous. Abyss would keep their OP shit in place otherwise.
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>>121239523
>Not mentioning Lyonar
I always pick Lyonar for Gauntlet because people can't deal with constant provokes. And since they both have Tempest and Holy Immolation, there's a greater chance you'll have more AoE removal
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>playing a burn deck
>lyonar heals himself for 12 in a single turn
Won anyway but holy shit, the guy had around 40 effective hp.
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>>121239523
This. Vanar has extremelly cost efficient minions that can be good alone, like everyones favourite warmaster and draug lord. And they also have some amazing removal and spells. Not as godly as magmar, but up there in gauntlet.
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I'm usually shit at vidya games but I get 9 wins in the arena like 20% of the time. Are everyone casuals or did I find a game I am actually good at?
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>>121243248
both
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>>121214996
All of the women in the game are really ugly. Most men too. Only the monsters are handsome. And the Lion guy.
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>>121243248
>get 9 wins
I wish i could get it. It's funny how i always win 5 in a row and then start losing thrice.


I think my deck is pretty okay
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>>121243438
Hearthseeker is kawai as fuck.
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>wins 3 in a row
I got the feeling i gonna lose 3 times afterwards. Oh well, i guess that's it for today if i lose.
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>>121239075
They'll grind it near the end of every month for season rewards probably, tryhards will push at the beginning
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>>121244176
>not pushing it when it began
>and then only online to play quests and gauntlet
I find people less tryhard in the beginning and they caught offguard by the changes.
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>>121243248
I got 9 wins my first gauntlet last week, and I am not ashamed to admit that it was luck to have matched with shitters. Some of the gauntlet decks posted in here wouldve pummeled me with the appropriate experience behind them but I was running into a lot of vet and songhai playing lyonar with 5 silverguard knights and 4 tempests in my deck
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>game's still not popular enough
>despite being fun as fuck
Though i understand there's a glaring issues like super burst deck. I think the game should get more players. So they can be my stepping stones to platinum

I wish they didn't censored it. Sex sales.
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>>121244337
>5 silverguard knights
the tempest is kinda overboard but that amount of silverknight guaranteed used up removal or their sabers + buff. I wish i could get 5 portal guardian.
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>>121244292
Noobs cant power through the pack early in the season when all the s rank ribbon bros are thundering through silver though, so i mean those s rankers are tryhards. I think most casuals will be reminded that they should try to place high for season rewards near the end of the season when the rewards are announced, and are otherwise content to do dailies against the shameful bronze and the sad silvers rather than push hard and have to do dailies immersed in cancer division
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>>121244537
I thought that about the tempest too but 2 of the victories were peeps conceding after being tempested twice. Turned out to be useful for the given the increased draw rate of having 4, never wouldve used all though
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Any good streams to watch for this game?
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>>121244789
play it
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Can't get mah oraoras in this game soon enough
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>>121245308
ATATATATATATATATATATA
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>>121244175
Yup, i lost at 4/3 for no fucking reason.
>have 10ish 2 mana cards minions, doesn't draw until 3rd turn
>have a lot of spells, keep drawing breath of unborn despite keep replacing it from turn one and i only have 1 card of it
>have 3 daemon lure, none of them appear when i really need it

Yeah, fuck you too duelyst.
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I just had the worst draft deck ever.

Lyonar
Opened:
0 legendaries, 0 Windblade Adepts, 1 Silverguard Knight, 0 Ironcliffe Guardian

But at least I got 2 Divine Bond and a Dagger Kiri

Managed to go 2/3 in spite of having absolute shit for a card pool
I had a pack where PUTRID DREADFLAYER was the best card in it, let that sink in for a sec.
In hindsight, I should have tested what happens if you insta-resign with a 0-0 record.
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>>121203734
The girls look like shit anyway
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>play gauntlet
>almost lost, somehow pull through with topdeck card
>opponent had 4 hp, i had 19 hp
>somehow pull aoe and dancer that give 1hp and damage 1. Lost the game because he killed my range despite having +5 attack
fuck, my heart can't take the gauntlet.
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Will Mechaz0r ever be viable?
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>>121251903
Not while it retain its meme status.
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2 months and game is forever dead
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>>121243248
This is unreal. After writing this I went:
9-2 (Magmar)
9-1 (Magmar)
5-3 (Lyonar)
9-1 (Magmar)
9-1 (Magmar)

Uh.. moral of the story: Magmar OP?
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>>121252546
Is it really? I always find a match in 8 seconds tops. Doesn't that indicate that a whole lot of players are playing the game?
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>>121252546
I thought this game has been open longer since at least april not to the public.
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>>121252546
Nah it's not.
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>>121253720
Dunno about you, but I keep playing against the same guys. And I agree with >>121205854
>>121206808, while I'm oblivious about other TCG this one is starting to feel samey and fucking boring since I keep getting wreck by guys with legos or that just conveniently drawn every single card to counter what I played. I don't mind losing, but this is more like a stomp.
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What happens when you deck out?
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>>121254330

Fatigue damage: 2 per card so that's 4 per turn.
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Can I choose who to get cards for?

Seems like it's going to take a long time if it just gives me random spread everytime
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>>121255091
Theres a disenchant mechanic where you turn cards you dont want into currency to craft cards you want
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>>121255091
You can disenchant cards and make other cards from their spirit.
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Do you lads save all your gold for gauntlet tickets? Logic indicates its the most gold efficient way to get cards/spirit, but then I only get rewarded for playing twice a week, which will make me sad and cause me to have uncontrollable shitposting :(
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>>121255358
I do.
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>>121255358
That's the way I feel as well. I save up for one ticket, and spend the rest on 1 orb daily.
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Anyone knows what this means??
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>>121256428
There's no x32 distribution
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>>121256515
but it worked just fine until like 20 minutes ago...
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>>121256580
I have to go but you can post the pastebin to the log, if I'm still here i'll read and post about it as soon as I can, otherwise someone else will do it
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>>121245308
Fffuck, that is so good.
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Any way to track how much Shadow Creep each team has in an Abyssian mirror match?
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>>121258669
look at the bottom left and right corners.

If the right corner spike is lower than the left one, that's Player 1's creep.

If the left corner spike is lower than the right one, that's Player 2's creep.

pic unrelated
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>>121259794
>spoiler

fuck you, I looked for like two whole minutes
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>>121260752
it would be satisfying as fuck to Blast that
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>tfw accidentally dragged over an open 4chan thread on the client window and ruined the game
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>>121260752

HOW DO YOU LET THIS HAPPEN

as soon as I drop a priestess she instantly gets dispelled, rushed, transformed, gangbanged and impregnated with no responsibility.
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>>121213191
>Magmar wings
>Vetruvian left arm
>Vanar color theme

Is the artist reusing assets or something ?
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Anyone have any luck running Kolossus? I have 2 spots in my control Magmar deck where I currently have Grimrocks and I'm thinking about swapping in the big guy.
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How should a gauntlet manacurve look like?
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>>121263468
for you
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>>121263468
I run 2, works well with flash reincarnation and fractal
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>>121258669
>>121259794
They're literally different colors
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will they get rid of their deviant art artist or do they want the game to never be looked at?

shares zero synergy with the pixil art

just want this game to grow and i think the first step is hiring a new artist instead of their friend who they are too scared of hurting his or her feelings
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songhai or magmar
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>>121267728
>Songay of Fagmar

Honestly, you decide.
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>>121267368
Seriously. The way he draws lips just plain disturbs me. The only cute girl I've seen out of him is the Vetruvian general.
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>>121267835
> The Female Vet General's helmet is a giant snake's head.

Oh wow
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>>121267791
how about which is easier in gauntlet?
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>>121267368
>>121267835
kill yourself weeb
the art is fine
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>>121267835
I actually think all of the robots and monsters look really good. The humans and lionmen look strange.
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>>121268134
>weeb

here is your reply
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>>121268852
are you retarded????
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>>121268852
>lady op
>furshit

what the fuck??

Elder you cunt
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>>121268979
>>121269058
I wasnt' sure because i don't play Magby.

thanks
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>>121268852
>Bounded Lifeforce X2
I'm so sorry
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>>121268397
alright
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>>121269815
you really took the time to make that for me?

dude just because i dont like the art doesnt directly mean i am asking for fucking anime shit. look at hearthstone fallout guild wars any western art. last i checked their promotion art isnt shit and blends with the game
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>>121269274
is it bad?
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>>121270132
>you really took the time to make that for me?

nah just doing the kickstarter cards cause they are shit

>their promotion art isnt shit and blends with the game

subjective, your opinion isn't fact
the art is fine
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>>121270543
It's not strictly bad, but it's a bit double-edged. On one hand, it can pull your sorry ass out of a loss by giving you the extra life you need, or it can straight up win you a game, but usually it'll just lower your health instead. Even in Gauntlet, getting a 1 turn kill on a target with 10 health is easy
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Is it normal to have 80% loss rate in the beginning?
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>>121260752
>>121271827
No.
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I think this game would be more fun if there was some incentive to manage your mana or cards in hand as actual resources. Drawing 2 and not having any reason not to blow all of your mana since you get it all back with a +1 makes clumsy play very forgiving.
I understand this is probably a design decision but I don't like it and thus is objectively wrong.
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>5 second sons

why
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there are female version of generals yet?
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Why the fuck do people whine about Vet's Third Wish ? Any Abusshit can boost EVERY minion on the field with +2 attack AND get a +5 Attack spell. And their minion come way cheaper.
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>>121273247
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>only 1 win

I don't even know why I do gauntlet.
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>>121273247
Third wish is only complained about in conjunction with Star's Fury. Here's the wall most players encounter against the race:

This combo costs 7 mana and deals 15+ potential damage. It's a low risk, high reward combo because the requirements are low and likelihood of happening is fairly high. In order to fully avoid it, you have to either stack units one in front of another, or be more than 2 squares away from your units. There's going to be some point in the game where you won't be able to keep this formation.

Even if you somehow do, after mid-game stacking units together will no longer be an option. A portal guardian or amara healer is going to come out that you won't have an instant answer for (dispels used on earlier targets). It's a constant looming threat that is always very likely to happen because of how many card draw mechanics the faction has.

The abyssian "version" you talk about is slightly easier to avoid and less dangerous because it requires an active setup. Vertruvian can just summon whatever he wants in the meantime, the defending player is the one that has to play clumsily just to try to avoid a SF/TW combo.

To be fair tho, the vet deck also needs a minimum of ~ 9 legendaries and 6 epics.
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>>121275530
Rarity doesn't justify the fact that the combo is there and forces you to play inneficiently in a conga line.
I agree with the rest of what you said.
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>>121275530
Then why the fuck does nobody complain about magmars 24 damage combo?
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>>121275873
Vets are the late game faction with a shit early though, they are pretty balanced imo
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>>121276723
I am not familiar with this combo, but I might be able to guess why.

A combo's strength is based on two things
>likelihood of happening
>damage it deals

I imagine the combo you listed requires 3+ cards and is not a 1 turn deal. I'm trying to break rank 5, and I don't really encounter any magmar combos that make me rethink my desire to play this game, but this Vet thing is just. I don't even have an answer for it, but I don't care that much since I don't see it that often.
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>>121276776
>shit early
>Pyromancers
>Portal Guardians
>Sarlac
>Mystic
>0 mana Dispel
Do you have ANY Idea of what you're talking about?
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>>121275530
>Third Wish needs to be used on top of Star's Fury
>>121217540
I'm a Vetfag and I know that Third Wish is retarded. It's our only real burst though and comes with targeting requirements so fuck it.

If Vets get a 7-mana 2-card combo that deals 15 damage with the right positioning on an empty board can we complain about Songhai's two-card 4-mana combo for 14 damage with the right positioning on an empty board? Mask of Shadows is straight fucked.
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>play gauntlet
>magmar opponent drafted 3 "heal 8 health to your general" cards
>draws and plays all of them
>stalls the game long enough to magmar all over me

Well okay I guess.
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Flash Reincarnation -> Elucidator -> Amplification -> Amplificiation -> Fractal Replication
33dmg 8mana

Fuck your babby non lethal combos
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>>121274523
you did better than me
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>>121277313
>Pyromancers
1 hp, literally every other faction can dispel / kill it from a distance with a cheap spell.

>Portal Guardians
He was talking on early game, Portal Guardians are by definition a threat if left unchecked for too long. Early game they're a big wall but they're more defined by the threat they are late-game when any player can summon 3-4 minions a turn.

Mystic is Neutral and thus an advantage on every faction. Sarlac is great though.
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>>121279456
Portal guardians have high hp helping to stall the game by positioning even if dispeled, not to mention they still can be First and Third Wish'd, it's not about a threatening board early game, it's about stalling it.
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>mfw I just realized I can dispel Mechazor with Mana Burn because it reads "Dispel a space" instead of "Dispel a minion"

C U C K E D
U
C
K
E
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Are Golem decks viable and which faction should I play them as ? I wanna win matches with big and stronk monsters and Fagmar are too much bitches for me.
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>>121280112
golems are shit because they dont do crap on the turn they are summoned
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>>121280112

If you wanna play big dudes you gotta go Magmar or Lyonar

Golems are good for a beginner/cheapass deck, they fit best in Lyonar because they have high health
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whats the faction tier list?
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Gauntlet is so much lamer than I thought.
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>>121281461
P2W tier
Vetruvian

Most broken cards but still whine about being underpowered tier
Magmar

Not going to let you have a fun match tier :
Songay

Take five minutes to summon three minions and move slighty to the right tier :
Abyssian

Hope you get bored and leave after forty-five minutes tier :
Lyonar

Literally only me have trouble beating them tier :
Vanar
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>tfw 8 wins 2 losses
>think i'll finally break my record
>this fagmar has 5 fucking plasma nukes and just healed through my rush
>clones his growth 4/4 thing so he has 3
FUCK
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Who's good to start out with?

Been playing Abyssian but it seems like I've only got one unit with death watch, and death watch seems really important to their faction.
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>>121282495
give tips pls
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>>121283613
Just go Lyonar and take every literal provoke and dispel. Rush them and they will lose with no way to fight back. In gauntlet these 3 things are king:

>superunits
>nukes/aoe
>dispel

Prioritize those and you will win.
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>>121283748
>Superunits
I disagree, I rarely ever win because of something like a Dragonbone Golem. It's all about having creatures that are bigtime value and cheap, and that's where Lyonar rules
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>>121284757
>I rarely ever win because of something like a Dragonbone Golem. It's all about having creatures that are bigtime value and cheap
I mean things that scale in stats or keep triggering effects for some reason. Since not everyone has the best removal options and dispel is limited, it's not unusual for some infinite scaling effects to win games.
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>>121284757
>Dragonbone Golem.

Well I have won games (in gauntlet) due to the superior Storm metal golem.
Coming out a turn earlier makes it's total damage output higher for quite a few turns after.
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>jacking off
>this is my last 150 gold
>just fuck it and roll with it
>actually have 5 wins 1 loss
>decide to stop fapping and see if i can get 10 or something
>lose next 2
w-what?
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>First time doing Gauntlet, decide to go Vet
>start of 3-0
>next game face lyonar
>he has literally every card in the game that can heal + 2 immo
>lose
>Que up again
>Same fucking guy
>lose
>Wait 2 hours just in case
>que up and met another lyonar that has almost the same fucking deck
It seems hard to make a good vet deck in gauntlet, or maybe lyonar is just easy mode.
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>>121289338
Should've trusted your dick.
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>started playing yesterday
>managed to get like 400 gold by doing all the tutorials and dailies and stuff
>spent it all on orbs
I didn't even know about Gauntlets. Fucking hell. Should've spent my gold on that instead.
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>>121290447
You're probably not good enough yet to get good value from it.
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is tipping for anything other than disrespecting? like do you get a secret achievement from doing a lot?
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Is polarity bugged? I'm doing one of the challenges and it kills my 0/2 walls even though they are boosted to 1/2 prior to casting it.
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>>121291443
if you tip 100 times, you get 500g back.
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>>121291496
The bonus is +1 attack, it doesn't carry over.

Challenge ain't bugged.
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>>121291383
Fuck you I've played Hearthstone
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>>121294113
9/3, seems good
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>>121294089
Then I'm stumped because everything implies you are to use the three polarities to get the three extra damage you need and kill the Songay.
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>>121295034
>>121291496

The last challenge right? What do you mean walls?
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>>121294315
do you also have 300 confirmed kills as well?
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>>121295461
This one, as far as I can tell you're meant to use the polarities to get 3 more damage out of three walls.
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>>121267835
:> best general
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Oh yeah i forgot i was supposd to show up at the thread tourny a few days ago

Whos new king of /dyg/?
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>>121297056
Flipping the 2/2 walls works for some reason. I have a feeling it's bugged.
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shongai posters ruin this thread holy shit
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>>121297056
oh yeah, I think it might be bugged but there's actually another solution for it. I'm still trying to remember it.
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>>121298689
Oh I remember I was considering that. I just realized it isn't bugged.
The sword of akrane is a continuous +1 while the primus fist is permanent, so primus walls survive a flipping but the other ones don't.
Neat.
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>>121299039
I guess I'm too used to Hearthstone rules. That makes sense if I think about it.
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>>121299039
>>121299159
The wording doesn't clarify that though
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>>121299568
I miss MtG's clear cut wording.
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>>121299974
>>121299568
I think the problem is it stacks base and enhanced stats and doesn't show you those numbers when you're looking at the unit's details.
It's probably so it doesn't confuse casuals but it's pretty bad regardless.
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>>121300486
Well, it was pretty damn confusing in this challenge.
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>>121300559
Word, if they took it in consideration when making the challenge I don't know what made them think it was a good idea to keep the numbers hidden.
Then again one of the challenges has a blazing orb that does two damage and lets you skip the entire "kill the enemy in one turn" thing so I don't even.
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>Update
Is it the new cards
Please be the new cards
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>>121301625
Sorry to disappoint, it's basically fucking nothing
http://forums.duelyst.com/t/duelyst-beta-0-50-0-pending-release-11-3-10pm-pst/20553
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>>121301625
Nope. Check the announcements forums. Gauntlet changes, bug fixes, some UI improvements, and networking improvements.
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FUCK THIS UPDATE
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How long is this shit gonna last?
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>playing gauntlet to distract me from that feel when no gf
>go 0-3
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Installing updates
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>>121302087
True but did you guys watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHUdNbKvu5c
Them animations

>>121302875
>That feel when you drafted magmar
>That feel when draft is so bad I got keked by Abysshitters
>tfw 0-3
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What's the most viable deck that still fucks over aggro shitters? Healyonar is a direct counter, but loses most of the control match-ups.
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>>121303862
Patron Warrior
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>>121303862
Mid-range magmar is pretty good.
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>>121305437
R I P
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Holy fuck, how big is the patch?

Why is it downloading at a snail-pace for me
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Sometimes this game is disgusting
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>>121308121
Man hytone is a bitch
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>>121307821
Their servers are shit
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I'm 9-1 and gauntlet and playing another match.

Isn't it supposed to stop at 9 wins?
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>>121311928
Read the patchnotes it's 12 now
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ded thred
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>>121312075
lmao, how much more can they rip off HS?
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>>121312075
Did they add more rewards for wins 10-12, or did they just rescale?
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>>121312203
ded gaym
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>>121312820
rewards continue to grow, and the new ticket comes at 7 wins now
>>
steam launch when
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>>121313190
They really are copying HS
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>>121313190
Didn't the ticket always come out at 7 wins?
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>>121316147
Yeah, it's always been 7, I'm not sure what these guys are talking about.
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>leveling lyonar with a shitty deck
>go against people with multiple legendaries and optimized decks

fuck me
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>>121323834
>get a quest for a class you never play and have no cards for
>win all 4 games

Well okay.
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Aww shit /dyg/ga, they actually saw my suggestion.
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>play against the same person twice in a row in arena
>win both times

Feels good knocking someone out.
>>
Is Crepe Tiles a viable deck? I can't tell because I'm so noob.
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>>121325574
>LIterally the most generic function ever

"Lol, look guyz. Its totally in the game because of me. You are now playing MY game. Give me the (you)s"
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>>121327771
thanks for my (You) senpai. here's one (You) for you too~ :3
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>>121327457
If these threads tell you anything is how broken they are.
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>>121328435
I haven't seen much about it. I don't have the card pool to pull it all together yet and I'm noticing a lot of struggle early game while I try to reach a critical mass of creep.
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>>121328631
I don't know much about Abyssian in general. Never broke 9 on this game and getting there was mostly starter Abyssians and Songhai for me.

Still, slower decks tend to hate creep from what I've seen. Basically adds a clock to the game if the Abyssian player gets the right shit going.
>>
>got 3/5 Mechaz0r cards in Gauntlet

motherfuckers why didn't they give me the rest of them
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>>121328984
>building mechs in gauntlet
poor soul
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>>121329130
I don't know I got one on my first pick and I thought maybe they'd give them all to me.

Was worth a shot I guess.
>>
>>121329194
Son, it's random. There's no archetype you can build by picking cards a certain way. You gotta get the value effects in gauntlet.
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>>121329506
which class is best around Mechaz0r?
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>>121329506
whatever I'm fucking 3-0 anyway
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>Scion's Third Wish

How is this balanced?
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>>121331227
Need at least three minions to even cast it, so it might as well just say "can only be cast after Star's Fury".
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>>121329825
Songhai. If he gets dispelled, you just move him over with Mist Dragon Seal. It's still not very reliable, but better than others at least
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>>121329825
>>121336718
This
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Looks like the reddit community is really picking up steam
>>
dead thread, dead ____
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>>121325427
Basically
> Be in silver
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>page 9
2ded
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What if Glacial elemental also targeted generals for his 2 dmg?
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>rank 12
>all my classes are lvl 11 except vanar
>get vanar quests
>well shit, I guess I might as well
>3 wins in a row
Damn, what?
>5 wins in a row
O-ok.
>8 wins in a row and gold.
Ayy.
>>
It would be cool if the alternate generals actual had different stats. Stuff like can move +1 spaces but have -5 max HP or +2 attack but can't replace cards.
>>
Why is Silthar Elder allowed? Like what the actual fuck?
>>
>tfw you tip a guy who was being friendly during the duel
>realizing he probably took offense in it after clicking
W-well I didn't want friends anyway.
>>
>>121351208
Maybe that's the idea, for the future at least.
>>
Suntide Maiden is my favorite card!
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>>121351712
Every tip I've gotten has been from some emote spamming faghat.
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>>121351791
Well I replied to some of it but surely he was well meaning in his mwah and well played spam anon.
>>
I tip if it's a really close game and you don't spam emotes like a faggot. a few is fine but you don't need to do it on every goddamn turn.
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Is it cheap that most of the times I win with Lyonar is because I save divine bond and set up a landing zone so my celerity niggas don't get blow up before they get to doublehit for 20?
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>>121352790
Anyone who lets a Lyonar have a "celerity nigga" go untouched into his turn deserves every ill in the land.
I mean at some point they have to learn Divine Bond exists anyway.
>>
>>121352790
Teach me, any time I try they just get dispelled asap or killed.
It's like they read my mind.
I' keep losing because of that ;_;
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>>121352790
Is clerity nigga better than clerity cat?
>>
>>121351790

She wins me games all the time when I buff her up to 9 or 15/6 with divine bond since people usually save removal for the provokes.
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>>121352935
The secret is being a silver shitter.
>>121353037
I like nigga better because 4hp demands higher focus than 3 for removal, and the disruption is useful to prepare a play next turn.
>>
For fuck's sake, when is Portal Guardian gonna get nerfed?
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>>121353624
just dispel it
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>>121353862
nice meme
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Any advice for me?

What should I buy next? A second Lady Locke or Voice of the Wind, or a Gravity Well?
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>>121353624
Dunno really, the only thing I would nerf him are the fucking base stats, 0/9 for 3 mana is absurd
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>>121354193
Do not craft Gravity Well, the state it's in right now, I'd not craft it even for 100 spirit. Maybe 40 for laughs. I'd personally get rid of Blazing Spines for some Frostfires
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>>121354883
Boundless Courage is surely better than Frostfire, though.
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How's this looking /dyg/ ?
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>>121352790
Nope, requires setup, costs 5 mana so it can be crippling tempo loss on removal and sub-optimal on dispel, and it's easier to just whack to death than Ironcliffe Guardian.

Do not feel dirty even if you buff it to 26/10
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>>121354978
Yeah, yeah, that is true. Don't know why it passed my mind, I love that spell.

But if you do not have access to Boundless Courage, then Frostfire.
>>
is mechaz0r good or is he just a meme?
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>>121355442
He can wreck inexperienced scrubs and factions that don't have much dispel.
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>>121355012
War Surge is garb- ... oh wow that is some low mana curve. Hmm, might work, looks interesting at least.
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>>121355815
Yeah war is mostly to utterly pimp an already pimped up minion, was trying some ecoaggro.
Any tips even for just aggro and not eco are welcome however
>>
If you lose rank, you should get demoted and lose all points IMO.
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>>121220585
Are these horrible cards? I have one of each, i got them from orbs.
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>>121356420
no, dark nemesis is great and pandora is decent
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>>121356460
Would either of the two work well with a deathwatch abyssian deck?
I assume dark nemesis would sync with shadowdancers in dealing direct damage to the general while killing small fries.
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>>121356904
>Would either of the two work well with a deathwatch abyssian deck?
Dark Nemesis might work in a shadow nova/creep deck actually. But generally speaking, it's best go balls to the wall with rush and trades until 7 when shadow nova instawins.
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>>121357110
>shadow nova/creep deck

Can i see these decks?
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>>121357223
It's very simple, you just add Rush units and the core creep generators:

2/1 mana creepdude
4 mana 3/6 dude
2 mana 1/1 that gets 2/2+ for each creep zone

And shadow nova times 3.
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>>121357223
just get every card that mentions Shadow Creep
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>yfw facing an actually good abyssian player
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>>121357526
>>121357767

Are they better for higher ranks than a deathwatch deck?
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I'm thinking about adding magnetize back in my deck to counter all the repulsor beasts.
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>>121358132
I've seen both around 10-5 range. They're both pretty hit or miss I think. As lyonar I can rush a creep deck before they set up but not as easily as other factions for example.
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Does anyone else think 30 HP is too little for sting values on generals? It seems to me like 2 healing mystics and healknight are almost mandatory on all decks for this reason.
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>>121358027
Cancerbro may be the best abysshitter I've seen
Probably because of his hipster deck
>>121358216
I tried, it's just not worth it in my opinion.
It's a fun card to pull thought.
>>121358401
You mean 25?
Still If we had more HP the battles would be longer than a mirror healyonar.
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>>121358027
I play Songhai so they all die the same
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Is magmar being bad a meme? I see almost nothing but magmar and vetruvian since I got rank 5.
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>>121358524
Do you enjoy prostate stimulation?
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>>121358586
Nobody has ever said Magmar is bad.
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>3 ironclifee guardians in a row
JUST
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>>121358742
Yes, I'm pretty sure most men do, why?
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>>121359046
Isn't that kinda gay?
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Are there any good all around high mana cards?
It seems like most cards that cost 7-9 are situational or better against specific factions.
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>>121359115
No, not at all.
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>>121359389
I don't know man, shoving something up your ass sounds a little gay to me.
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>>121359452
What does putting things up your ass have anything to do with sexual attraction? I think you might have a critical misunderstanding of what homosexuality is.
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>>121359626
>What does putting things up your ass have anything to do with sexual attraction?
So you're saying you just enjoy the stimulation but don't imagine it's a dick penetrating you?
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>>121358465
>Cancerbro may be the best abysshitter I've seen
Now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
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>>121359754
>but don't imagine it's a dick penetrating you?
Why in the world would I do that?
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>>121359951
I don't know...it just seems common so I assumed it? What do you stimulate yourself with if it's not some dick shaped dildo?
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>>121359994
There are devices made specifically to stimulate the prostate. A dildo wouldn't even be that great at it I imagine.
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>>121360170
>There are devices made specifically to stimulate the prostate
Like?
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>>121359127
there's that 6/9 +1manacost to enemy on next turn guy, I guess he's alway decent to good
The red guy that deals 7 dmg to random creep around him when his general gets damaged also seems to be pretty consistent, you usually get the creep kill right away
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>>121358465
What does cancer play? Does he also enjoy anal stimulation?
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>>121360543
I play my own shitty version of burn Abyssian. Hence the name. And no I do not enjoy anal stimulation.
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>>121360543
Family secret I guess
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>>121360598
>family secret
>implying your male siblings passed on the dildoless prostate stimulation technique to you
>denying it's sort of gay
THIS IS KIND OF FISHY MAN I DON'T KNOW
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>>121360296
Look up aneros.
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I using 3 healing mystics and two knights. Is there any way to prevent a songay rush if they run 3 boars and get that fucking lame move 4 spaces guy? He just kept backstabbing me.
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CAN YOU DISPEL ARTIFACTS ON GENERALS QUICK RESPOND SADSAJDHSALDHSADKASHDJKASD
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>>121362118
NO
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>>121361286
Taunts and a guy at your back 24/7.
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Top 5 legos, go!
1. Aymara
2. Sarlac The Eternal
3. Silithar Elder
4. Lady Locke
5. Red Synja
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>>121362841
Abused moe?
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>>121362841
What is locke good for?
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>>121362841
Is lady locke still top 5?
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>>121362841
Voice of the Wind
Lady Locke

That's all you need, baby
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>>121362841
Sarlac needs to be erased or given to a faction. That fucker is just too good with too many shit.
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>>121364038
It should be abyssian, it makes sense.
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>double flash slithar elder
FUCK MY LIFE
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>>121364038
I'll fix it

>Dying wish: summon a 0/1 Sarlac the Persistent on a random space
>has the same ability as "the Eternal"

and then you need to actually give it an attack boost or else it's just a wall minion.
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>>121364645
Just make it 0/1 right off the bat

That way, you can't just kill it every turn
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How do I improve this abyssian burn dick?
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>>121365360
Why 2 Mogwai?
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>>121312526
>>121313379
Its just a tournament style, not like their stealing HS cards.
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>>121366074
The highest HS win score in arena before it finishes is 12 in HS.
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>>121366151
yeah they are copying a win score from HS, big deal.
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What even beats a wallet Magmar with 3 makator beasts, slithan elders and all the fancy stuff? You can't rush him early game because he heals for 24 hp and wipes all 3 or less attack things out of the game.
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>>121367979
nothing

why would anything beat a p2w version of the best faction in the game
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>>121368046
Please be joking.
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>draw crossbones the turn before songay shits out the Mechazor
>don't draw breath of the unborn for 3 turns it was essential for my survival
I guess I should just git gud.
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Does dervish vanishing count as a unit dying for deathrattle fodder?
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>>121369196
No, you trade them in if you want Deathwatch.
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>most of Magmar's OP spells are basics
>they won't even get free spirit when their shit is nerfed

feels good
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>>121370556
>implying they'll be nerfed
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Of these four, which is the most dust-worthy?

Zen'rui the Blightspawned
Archon Spellbinder
Paddo
Red Synja

Vanar main by the way
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>>121371687
>Vanar main
Dust your life
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>>121372701
rude
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This game is dead on arrival unless they fix all the P2W shit before Steam release. Vanar and Vetruvians are single handedly ruining the game at 5-S rank.
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>>121373136
>Steam release.
WHEN?
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>>121373483
when the desktop client actually fucking works acceptably?
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>>121373559
so when
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>>121371687
spellbinder
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>Try to dust an epic
>Game stuck at "One moment..." instead of giving me the spirit
Truly an epic game, wow
>>
What is the average /vg/ goer's rank do you think?
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>>121376389
I'm sure everyone here was diamond last month at least
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>>121376389
diamond or s
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>>121376389
probably 10. We have a lot of Rank 0's apparently.

I'm dragging us down because I don't want to pay for orbs.
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>>121375821
Restart the game, it hangs up but the action is usually already done.
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I had the most amazing comeback last game, I wish I recorded it

clutch Spirit of the Wild
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I lost to Vanar 3 times in 6 games. Something's not working and I need your help to fix it.
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>>121377350
Take out that Crossbones and add a Git Gud
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>>121377530
Mechashit detected. That card alone won me a few matches.
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How am I doing /dyg/? I have enough spirit for another legendary. Do I go for a third Metamorphosis or my last Elder?
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Holy shit, I am so mad.

>turn 5 flash elder
>kill his ass, trade 1 unit for the kill and get both eggs with tempest
>turn 6 flash elder
>dispel him and get the egg, get some units out
>have to eat a blow from him next turn but my guys get him after
>tuern 7 he plasmas the shit out of my things, only have an emerald rejuvenation left
>turn 8 elder
>beam shock true stike trade another hit and hit him for 6 with my glaive aura'd rejuvenator
>hit egg myself
>out of cards on the field and just got a regalia/angel from my draw
>turn 9 phoenix brings him and his egg back

NO

NO

FUCK THIS GAME

FUCK THESE LEGENDARIES

I AM

MOTHER

FUCKING

DONE
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>>121377840
there really needs to be a cap on legendaries
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>>121378057
One on the battlefield at a time while still letting you have multiple in your deck should be fine.
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>>121377350
Anyone? Summoning Abyssian aficionados.
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>>121378237
thats retarded
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>>121377840
Sound like you're just bad at the game friendo :^)
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>>121378057
They should just limit the number of copies allowed per deck or add a cap to like 5-6 per deck only.
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>>121378336
I meant one copy of each legendary, like MTGs legendary rule.
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>>121378390
Yeah thats what I thought it should be
7+ mana legendaries should be unique in a deck

>>121378496
ahh, yeah thats better
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>>121377840
>Healyonar met the rock to his scissor
>FUCK THIS UNFAIR GAME, WHY CAN'T I WIN ALL THE TIME? WAHHH
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>>121371687
Why would you dust any of them ?
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>>121378826
What deck could handle that amount of assfuckery?
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Serb's down?
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Stuck on black screen with "Duelyst", RIP servers.
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>>121379131
control Vanar
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>>121379473
Same, waited 5 minutes after I won a match and it wouldn't stop downloading.

It took a few minutes to load the game again when I restarted it but I lost no progress.
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>>121379612
Stuck at ONE MOMENT after winning a game. Am I being robbed of a win?
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>>121379986
Should be alright, I had the same thing happened to me earlier. I closed the game and reloaded it, got my +15 gold. so I assume my rank moved up.
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>>121378252
What the fuck do you need so much removal for? Remove Crossbones. Bloodmoon Priestesses are shit, Shadow watcher is shit.
Actually, everything is shit, this deck is all wrong.
Keep the wraithing swarm, sarlacs, shadowdancers, gloomchasers and a few removal options but not fucking all of them.
Replace everything else except maybe the rejuvenators and shrouds.
If you're trying to play a weenie deck get yourself some deathfire crescendo.
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>>121380259
Which faction do you hate playing against the most and why?
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>>121380413
Abysshit in his every form.
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>>121380595
but

why?
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>>121380413
Magmar because silly amounts of cheap removal on top of strongest minions, not to mention crap like Silithar Elder and fractal Elucidators and Makantor.
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>>121377630
bump
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>>121380413
All of them. I play out of spite.

Except maybe Vetruvian because at fucking least I can finally have a match without two removals or dispels a turn.
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My game is not loading, it only says duelyst, the walking animated thing isn't there. How do i fix?
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>>121380645
Dunno, I just feel it's very frustating to play against. Shadow Creep is a pain in the ass, all her 1/1 tokens who can oneshot you anytime or used as removal, all her minions with Rush, the Shadow fucking girl who keeps dealing 1 damage and healing them for 1 or the other fucker who spawns Wraithlings on Deathwatch... Basically, everything from Abyssian must be deleted from the board instantly or you lose.
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>>121381035
>Vetruvian because at fucking least I can finally have a match without two removals or dispels a turn.
Lmao, Vetruvian has 0 mana dispel and removals also.
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>>121381105
Excuse me, i play deathwatch Abyssian.
But if i don't get to set up properly by at least turn 5, i'm fucked.
You just have to remove the shadowdancers and priestesses first, wraithlings can go fuck themselves.
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>>121381126
>0 mana dispel which target one minion
> 4 mana removal that can only be used to a minion close to the General.

Alright let's include that AoE 2 damages spell that hit everyone around the enemy General and that Dominate Will spell for 7 mana.

I don't count Star's Fury and Third Wish combo because if we're talking about Rush minions then half the Songay's cards can be labelled as "removal"
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I found some patch notes on the forums

>v0.50.0
>removed the ability to play the game
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>>121381532
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>>121380413
Abyssian - they have everything, songhai levels of burst with board control and creep needs a remake

Lyonar - having the strongest 2-4 unit drops while having healing for a life and a half, holy immolation is op.
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>>121381578
pic unrelated?
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>>121381742
Pic seemingly related but on closer inspection, possibly not.
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Is there something wrong with the game right now?
Can't seem to log in.
>>
game literally dead
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I think the devs realized how shit their game got and simply shut it down out of shame.
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>Have to play in 6 minutes
>Game dead

O-okay
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>>121381876
You win this time.
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How do I beat this?
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>>121382365
Watch the solution on Youtube. Some may have been changed though.
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Can't enter the damn thing.
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>>121382365
First use the bone spell. It's not like it can't be used for something else. Magmar is now at 6 HP and the rock pulverizers at 2.

Use Flying spell to put the scorpio right below the emey General. Do not attack

Advance bottom Orb Weaver one tile to the right. hit Shieldmaster. You'll die and he'll be down to 2 HP.

With your Scorpio's position, you can now summon Frostmourne in the middle of everyone, your second Orb Weaver will be safe where he is.

There you go, Magmar down to 4 HP, and you can now attack him with your scorpio and your remaining Orb Weaver.
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I wonder what's in this place.
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>>121384229
Water, I'd imagine.
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>>121384679
Wait up, that's an A and not an X?

I'm dumb.
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Game's back up.
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>Be Bronze
>Some guy spams mechazor parts and summon the things in one turn.
>My spells don't work on it.

the fuck do I do?
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Literally second pack opening ever, is this good?
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>>121387824
You keep crossbones just for that occasion. Or use a tile-based dispel + removal or the shroud.
>>
FUCK YOUR DISCONNECTS.
WHENEVER I GET BACK IN MY SHIT IS GREYED OUT EVEN THOUGH IT'S MY TURN.
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I'm scared to play my Sarlacs against Vetruvians? How do I bait out the dispels?
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>>121387904
no
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>>121385314
To be fair, I could see how that looks like an X.
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>>121387904
Glaives are good.
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Guys, I am going to play Magmar but I only have 1 elder. Is this sufficient?
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>>121391337
You really need at least 2 to have a chance.
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Can anyone point me at an Abyssian weenie deck that uses Sarlacs and shit?
Also: I'm at ~1k spirit and I can either craft
>vet legendary
>third sarlac
>abyssian legendary or 2 epics.
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>>121391948
1/3
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>Discard Natural Selection because there are 2 Obelisks on the table
>Redraw it at the end of the turn
Thanks game
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>>121393130
Go on.
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>>121393130
2/3
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>>121393767

3/3
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Anyone else playing in that Brazilian tourney right now?
>>
What's that number next to people's names in the friend list? Their best rank?
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>>121395257
I think it's their current rank.
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this is so lame
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>>121396110
Songweaver looks pretty cool
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>play 2 games with a half-assed Rush deck
>get my 2 wins gold and make a rush/weenie hybrid deck
>run into a mirror who's using said rush deck
Aiii Erumao
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>>121396110
Get fuct fag
>>
d e d

g a m e
>>
We should plan more tournaments than one per week
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>>121402857
Nobody's going to play these tournaments if there's nothing to gain
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>>121403335
I can draw a cup on paint.
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>>121403335
bragging rights. You can go to the forums and reddit and say that you're the best 4chin has to offer
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>>121404603
>the best out of 6 people
dead thread
>>
Why everyone insist on surrender in every fucking game just before you destroy them? I let my oponent beat the shit out of my general, but here I am buffing my hearthseeker so that faggy abyssian can concede immediatly after I drop my second buff. And it keep happening, everyone and their mother does this.
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>>121404915
>84 posters
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Which is best?
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>>121383758
Holy shit this is so wrong.
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>>121407304
>ultimate aggressor quest
>opponent concedes
>doesn't count as damage
>don't complete quest
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>>121408338
Fuck aspect of the drake. Mountains or nothing, drake is fuckawful.
3 fenrir is a must, dunno why you are running only 2. Best 3 mana in the game.
And that's all my knowdledge about vanar.
>>
So is Abyssian death spikes a thing? I'm trying it out and it feels great bursting them for 13 + with my last spike spell
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>>121412365
It's working great for me at rank 12
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>>121412365
Anything is "a thing" up to gold. When you try for rank 5+ though, creeps end up being too slow to be the only win condition you're pushing for.
>>
>Reach half of r13
>Start losing streak
Fuck my life.
>>
>portal guardians have 9 hp
Why is this allowed?
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>>121415985
0 attack!
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>>121407304
>opponent's turn
>about to get destroyed
>he just taunts with the emotes and and wastes my time
>takes the longest way to kill me

fuck that. I'm conceding. It's faster for everyone.
>>
What 3 changes would you make to this game to generate more of a playerbase?
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>>121418851
>add retard bots to the game with shitty decks, secretly letting shitty players pound them to give them a sense of satisfaction
>more attractive concept art of generals
>just more art of everything
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Stealing rounds with ten billion creep tiles feels good
>>
1st time this game, looks awesome, mechanics are good, has client, has tutorials for new players, and everything was good until i started to play 1v1

of 10 games i only won 1, what im i doing wrong /dyg/?
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>>121420879
You seem nice. Post deck and what you've been doing
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>>121420879
You need a git gud deck.
What faction are you willing to main?
At first is better if you just unlock all the tutorials and grab the gold, roll and if it looks bad reroll (make another account)
Or keep it and dust bad cards and make a deck
Depending on your faction we can help you with some things.

Anyway do you guys think you can make a deck around golems? A good deck that is.

>>121418851
More cards is all we need, seriously.
This though >>121419104
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>>121421050
>>121421268
i tryed yo build this deck, idk if it is good, currently i like the abyssian deck
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>>121421605
Seems solid for bronze. Just add 2-3 repulsor dogs and 1-2 dispel dogs. Though honestly if you're having trouble in that league, you should play through all the tutorial. Unit positioning in this game is important, and there are a lot of kills/advantageous trades that you might miss because you're unfamiliar with all the things you can do in this game.
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>>121421605
I'm not that good with abysshitters but you may want those rolls first, you really depend on a lot of cards that you don't have,
This would sound unfun thought so don't mind me much.

Use the squadbuilder in op for a better shoot.
looks basic, do you play agressively?
Do you have any experience with MTG's Blood artist deck?

Pic related is your best friend.
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>>121421945
thanks, i will try to do that
>>121421947
well that's kinda confusing since i am a newfag in this, but the matches i've played i been sometimes agressive but i think that's not working too much
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>>121421605
thats horrible dude you have way too many 4+ units and not enough spells, keep playing with the starter until you unlock everything and do all the tutorials so you can buy more orbs.
>>
What the fuck is a Magma?
>>
>>121423275
This:
>>121423716
Cancer is not online, but he plays a pretty interesting abysshitter deck,

But as an abysshitter all you really want is spells and sarlacs.
>>
>>121424925
welp, so after i do the tutorials, what should i do nex if i want to play with abbysian deck, i mean i undertand that part of more spells and less 4+ units
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>>121421605
>>121425727

Where are your Dark Lures? Why do you only have 2 Wraithling Swarms? Pick one strategy that you want to go for with Abyssian.
A) Wraithling swarm with Soulshatter Pack and Shadow Watcher as finishers
B) Aggro/Burn using tons of rush creatures (you might not have enough yet)
C)Control using late game creep tiles

Pick one style and fill your deck with cards that synergize with that style. Your deck is all over the place right now.
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>>121425727
I'm not an abyissian player so I'll tell you all I know, you want at least two sarlacs, and some spells I don't remember right now, for now get as many orbs as you can, (you get an extra one for levelling up decks to 11) check what you have and the total worth of it.
Decide if you care or not
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>>121425727
It really depends on what you get from your first orbs, if you dont want to play with other factions just dust whatever isn't abyssian.

Have some patience and keep playing, you'll eventually get good cards and understand what you need.
>>
Just found out you can get the 30g quest twice a day. I completed the first 30g quest and then replaced my other one and got the 30g quest again.
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Yay, first legendary!
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>>121429074
>rook
I have bad news anon
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Post underrate cards
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>>121428386
Interesting. Will try to do that in future
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>>121429074
at least you can dust it for an epic
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>>121431479
>>121429538

Guys please ;_;
I just wanted a playable legendary
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>>121431615
Eh it isn't that bad you can play it since its your first lego and you are bronze
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>>121431890
Is there any epic that I should get right away? I opened all the easy orbs from leveling/puzzles and I still don't like my collection.
>>
Why is sworn avenger worth 100 spirit?

It seems really weak.
>>
>>121432062
They're deck specific. For example, Portal Guardian is a high priority Vet epic for all decks. For Songhai, spiral technique. Lyonar, Holy Immolation. It'd help if know what faction you want to play for sure.
>>
>>121432062

These are the strongest epics in each faction

Lyonar: Holy Immolation
Songhai: Spiral technique / lantern fox
Magmar: Makantor warbeast
Vetruvian: Wildfire ankh / Star's fury
Vanar: Spirit of the wild
Abyssian: Black solus
Neutral: nothing really, wait for more legendaries

You would do better with a good balance of normal and rares to start though, keep opening orbs. Epics and Legendaries will come later.
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>>121432403
>>121433351

Is there any absolute staple cards that would be good in 90% of decks? Like Boom from Hearthstone?
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>>121433919
Old Locke would be the perfect example, but dunno about now, she's been nerfed. She's still good but maybe NOT so much. Another card really played is Sarlac, and probabily will be nerfed soon. So if you craft that you'll most likely get a full Spirit refound.
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>>121433919
1 Crossbones so Mechaz0re doesn't fuck your bum

:^)
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>>121433919
no, the closest thing I can think of are the healing mystics and emerald rejuvenators, simply because healing as a whole is sort of OP.
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>>121433919
Not really, the neutral minions aren't as "must have" as some of the faction cards.


If you are just starting this game, I strongly recommend you save spirit and first play all the decks to get a feel of what you would like to play. There's no rush to get the stuff, this game is really lenient on earning gold. You can earn a pack a day from the quests.
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>>121433919
Not really. Just use whatever you get in packs.

The only legendary used by almost every faction is Lady Locke. The other staple neutrals are mostly rares and commons, so you will probably get some naturally (Emerald Rejuvenator, Azure Horn Shaman, Primus Fist etc)
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>>121434550
I'll see if I can save up enough for Sarlac, I kind of like the Abyssian playstyle.

>>121434614
I already have one copy

Thanks for all the advice guys
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>Alcuin Loremaster says "I'm... free..." when it dies
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>>121436264
F-free from what?
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>>121436640
Free from having poo stats and having its head in Pyramidhead's head.
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Is Saraad good or just a meme card?
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>>121439140
who?
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So how long does it take to finish the collection? I'm pretty impatient and considering paying.
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>>121440308
In 1 week I got a perfect competitive deck, you obtain Gold quite fast here. Also you find often Legendaries/Epic cards so you have overall more Spirit to use to craft the cards you want.
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>>121440851
Thats encouraging. Guess i'll stick it out then
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>>121440308
You can buy everything for like 500-700 USD. Farming, you'd have to be god and lucky to be done in a year of so of nonstop playing just to have all non legendaries.
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Someone please explain how this is fair.
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>>121444075
6 mana
can be dispelled
the Celerity is literally useless
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>>121393989
7 more legendaries and I'll be done. Currently sitting on 455 dust.
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>>121444427
>Fail to kill it
>no dispells
>gets boosted
>clerity

It's a shit card but if you aren't ready it can rape you
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>>121445685
Thats true of most awful cards tho
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Is this actually Emil? I didn't notice the name until this screen.

I just started recently and I'm really enjoying this game. I like that it follows the Hearthstone model, but the game itself is much different. I don't like all of the RNG involved with many of HS' cards.
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>>121447516
I've met a dev before, so yeah it probably was
I'd say it's more magic than HS
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is there any way to change the resolution in the client guys?
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>>121448252
Not yet it seems
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>>121448252
If you're playing in windowed mode (Ctrl+Shift+F), you can change the size of the window by just clicking on the corners/sides. I don't think you can change the resolution in full screen though.
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Is there somewhere i can read the game's lore?
I just wanna know why every faction general has a prosthetic arm.
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>>121449702
It seems to be a popular thing, they did say they'd post the lore in the site, donno when
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This is the first time i actually made fucktons of wraithlings, too bad rng won't let me have a shadowdancer.
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>>121450165
>they did say they'd post the lore in the site

would prefer flavor text on the cards desu
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>Do alright in a game
>Summon minion
>Game lags and reload the fight
>Try to resummon the same minion
>Game lags
>ENEMY TURN
>My minion hasn't been summoned
>Enemy General has no problem moving around.

Fuck that.
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This is your daily reminder that nothing is getting nerfed unless it is ubiquitously used to great effect or makes matches go on for too long. You should expect buffs, because devs are not going to nerf cards and factions in any way that will result in longer match duration.

Thats why Sunny D of all things was nerfed, and unless people are running 3 of a neutral card in their decks (like pre nerf locke), devs dont give a shit about you feeling the game was unfair because this card or that card was too powerful. They will boost factions to be roughly the same absurd power level, so expect all factions to be OP based on luck of the draw and deck comp (they arent going to cut down legendaries per deck because they generate revenue and make matches go faster when somebody eats a flash reincarnated dong).
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>>121450583
>songay summons mechafag
>total damage would have killed me
>dc'd and timed
>Kill him

There was no way I could have survived that.
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>>121450579
That's also an idea the devs like. There's a thread on their forum about it.
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>implying you're not a retard who barely knows how to play this game
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>>121450841
Why is Healyonar allowed to exist then lol
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>>121452135
If matches are still taking ages after Sunny D nerf, devs will nerf it even more. I've never had a match with healyonar lasting more than 20mins though so I can only assume its a problem when mirrors occur or silvershits play like spergs
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>Lady Locke drops
>I dump my Lightbender
This fucking card man
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>>121450250
Don't run Blood Siren, she hurts you more than she helps
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>>121449206
thanks
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>>121452782
Oh?
What's a better replacement then?
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>>121452674
>that fucking doujin
Thanks anon now I need to go fap
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>>121452674
>>121453921
which doujin?
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>>121454562
THAT one.
Red riding hood was better though
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>>121454562
come on man
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>feelin' good, practiced a few games with friends with my best deck
>queue ladder
>go on a four match losing spree

f-fuck
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>>121444819
You could try this if you wanted to use Sarlacs:
Darkfire Sacrifice x3
Void pulse x3
Gloomchaser x3
Mana Forger x3
Primus Fist x3
Sarlac The Eternal x3
Soulshatter Pact x3
Deathfire Cresendo x2
Nightsorrow Assassin x3
Ritual Banishing x3
Wraithling Swarm x3
Deepfire Devourer x3
Jax Truesight x3
Vorpal Reaver x2
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>>121455861
>Jax Truesight x3
For what purpose
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Seems like every other legendary i get from orbs is this. Any good decks that work with this? I only see silhouette tracer synergy here. Does backstab work with ranged units?
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>>121459929
Pic related
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>>121408338
>all 3 decks run coldbiter
None.
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>>121408338
There's no excuse not to run 3 Fenrir
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>>121460027
You can also mist walk with it and fuck bitches in the ass.
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>last season reach gold
>this season I can't get past rank 20
>lose EVERY FUCKING GAME
fuck this fucking game seriously
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>>121463026
>last season reach gold
>this season reach gold
Git gud.

Seriuosly though, some ex gold, ex diamond and ex s-rank faggots are still having fun in the lower ranks. Give it a week.
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>play 6 games with my main deck
>6 lose
okay enough of this fucking RNG bullshit fucking game for this day

all of you can go fuck yourselves by the way

literally fuck everything especially this bullshit fucking retarded game
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So lyonar and magmar are for the noobs that need 60hp to win a game while vetruvian and songhai are for people that actually know what they are doing right
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>>121463695
Vets are for those with a fat credit card and Songh is for the muh 1HKO combo edgelords
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>>121463695
>while vetruvian and songhai are for people that actually know what they are doing right
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>>121463695
>>121463806
w-what about vanar?
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>>121465075
Vanar are for people who don't want to win.
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>>121465075
Who?
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>>121465075
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>>121465374
i can see her hands
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>>121454562
g/705140/5230c53fe6/
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>>121465151
>>121465220
>>121465374
>no Abyshit love

suffering
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>>121466203
If it makes you feel better I alway lose to them for some reason.
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>>121466203
abyssian is for people that dont even want to play the game and just skip until they can cast 3 shadow novas
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which race is the best for extreme aggro
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>>121466487
Songhai
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>>121466487
Neutral
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>>121466487
vanar

really
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>>121467464
What the hell is vanar supposed to do against super units? They easily have the worst removal in the game.
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>>121468972
>vanar
>worst removal in the game

what the fuck am I reading
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>>121468972
>Literally their best attribute
>Worst

At least try man
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>>121468972
aspect of the fox
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>>121468972
You misspelled "best". They have tons of control.
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>>121469564
magmar's is best, though
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>>121469701
Probably, but mostly thanks to dispel. I always suffer when i use my shittily strapped together magmar deck against a golem tribal, for example.
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>>121469365
their best attribute is their cheap as fuck minions, though

fenrir warmaster is basically a 6/7 for 3
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how do I build a proper shadow creep deck?
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>>121470587
1)go on the search bar up top in the deck builder, type "creep"
2)add everything you see
3)fill the rest of your deck with control and the rest of the usual abyssian stuff
4)every game, turtle 7 turns and then win
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>>121470856
how can they counter this deck? what should I be looking out for?
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>>121470904
>how can they counter this deck

by killing you before turn 6
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>>121470982
but which faction is the most capable of doing this? facedmg songay?
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Does this game support autismal off the wall fun decks or is everything meta? Thanks and Godbless
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>>121471073
you can beat most people with a silly gimmick deck

but you probably need a meta deck to reach rank 0
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>>121447958
I can confirm that devs actively play. One added me to his friends list and asked me some questions regarding the game
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Who's hype for the hearthstone world championship?
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>Just one win before gold
>Get keked by abysshitter
>Again
>the same
>Get keked by healyonar (I'm playing aggronar)
>Get keked by Vanar
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Keked

Oh shit there's a fiter I thought it was only senpai and something else, kek
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>>121474632
at least it isn't 2 wins in a row.
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>>121474742
shaking my head to be honest family =

baka desu senpai
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Can you dispel the Mechaz0r buff off a champion?
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>>121476306
No
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>4 Magmar games quest
Awh yeah, free gold
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unrelated to /dyg/ but related to 4 chan
can someone post a pic with current word filters?
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>>121480960
s m h = baka
t b h = desu
f a m = senpai
c u c k = kek
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Is this game a good choice for one who doesn't have much experience with card games? I tried Hearthstone, and while I sort-of liked it, it just wasn't for me.
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>>121481619
Some basic knowledge of card games would be helpful, but you'll pick it up as you go.
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>>121481372
thanks senpai
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>>121481372
wait for real? baka senpai
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>>121481372
>>121482041
>>121482376
this general is now officially shit, thanks weebs
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>>121481372
I don't believe you senpai, let me kek this out
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>>121484065
shit its true
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I have enough spirit for one legendary. What's a single legendary that can help an average Abyss deck with no legends? Which one would make the most difference or should I just go with Sarlac?
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>>121489778
What do you think?
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>>121490028
I don't, senpai. that's why I'm asking
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>>121490140
Do you have any plans to include ritual banishing, darkfire sacrifice or any deatwatch related minion/spell in your deck?
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>>121489778
Sarlac. He's likely to get nerfed too, so you won't be losing much.
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Fuck Lyonar
I'd rather fight 50 Abyssians and Songhais in a row than this piece of shit faction
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>>121493517
He's the most annoying guy to fight if he goes full healyonar. Abyssians feel cheap because shadow creep is a stupid as shit mechanic and shadow nova can go fuck itself. The others are tolerable, I don't know if it is because I play songhai sometimes but I can't see him as cheap because his minions are shit in general.
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>>121494249
Even without going full healyonar he's still obnoxious with way too cheap removal looking at you martyrdom, quite possibly the dumbest card in the game and high health provoke minions out the ass. Even if you win it's not fun. Zeal is a stupid mechanic too since it basically just means he gets bullshit minions for free since they're never not going to be near the general.
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>>121481372
baka = baka
desu = desu
senpai = senpai
kek = kek
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I wanna take this guy and a couple more nigga, and run them into a Vet deck designed around giving me a ton of draw while my opponent get binded from everywhere.

Is this viable ?
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>>121494738
Reading the official forums I see a lot of hate on martyrdom. I'm crazy and it's actually really good, right?
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>>121497593
It's autoremoval for 2 mana. What the fuck do you thing?
And it can make combos with the goat.
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>>121497593
>Remove any minion on the map for 2 mana

Lyonar have like 6 cards to directly fuck any minion anywhere in the map but fuck that they need one of the best removal ingame too.
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>>121499242
>>121499940

I'm just reading through guides as a newfriend and I see
>Martyrdom: (C+) Underwhelming removal that is difficult to find space for and using it for health is probably a losing play anyway.

It's a slightly worse Swords to Plowshares, how the hell is it being rated so low?
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>>121496852
Not in the least. If your opponent removes it right after you drop it, you've cost yourself a card
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>>121501887
What if you combine it with that other card that prevent minions from being the target of spells ?
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>>121502120
You're still opening yourself up for a 2 for 1 or a 3 for 1
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>>121502629
I don't know what that means.
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>>121503164
x for x stands for how many your opponent's cards your cards force to spend.
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>>121503164
Card advantage is king in all card games. If you spend 2 cards and they remove it with just one you got 2 for 1'd and lost some card advantage. Spelljammer loses you a card draw when it comes out so it's already at a disadvantage and if your opponent removes it you're in a hole.
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>>121496852
>viable
Anything is viable up through gold. Understanding positioning and how to take trades will carry pretty most decks through that bracket.

For a deck designed to hold its own against S tier decks, this will never work. The win condition you devised revolves around gaining board resource advantage by starving your opponent of cards. This condition fails on too many levels to be dependable:

>it's early game, and opponent has 4-6 cards in his hands; this means he can simply drop better creatures than a 2/4 and still have more board resources despite lower card draws and overwhelm you regardless
>if you don't draw any of your card draw mechanics, you suffer the same disadvantage
>if he has a removal, then he effectively used 1 card to remove 2 of yours

These are the main scenarios where this card will put you at a disadvantage, and these scenarios all have a very high likelihood of happening.
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Would anyone be interested in a /dyg/ tournament today?
Last one was monday and it was kind of a shit time to have one, not many people showed up.
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>>121215994
highmayne looks so much better with a shield
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I just got rekt by a songay who did 22 damage to me with an empty board. And that's without Spiral Technique.
Fuck this game.
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>>121509932
With a fox?
If so, that was me. Serves you right for trying to heal all that life abyshit
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>>121510273
>throw out all my heals against an OTK class
>still not enough because bullshit combo
>s-serves you right, abysshit!
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>>121509932
I've pretty much learned to NEVER expose my back against songays
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>>121510918
I had my back covered. My mistake was to move into melee range.
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>>121510689
>Playing with my shitty thrown out togheter deck
>Abyssian keeps throwing out sarlacs
>I've been running away without playing a single thing 2 turns now, corned in top left with an useless rush tiger, 6 cards in my hand
>Cheeky fucker decided to chase me with his general and get as close to me as he can so I can inner focus the fox without wasting a movement
>Comes here to complaint about bullshit combos
Loving every laugh
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>>121511472
I don't think dishing out 22+ damage without any board with the only deciding factor being the positioning should be possible.
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what is needed for a golem deck? wahts the best faction for it? im inclining for vet
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I've been looking for a decent card game / short session strategy game for a while now, the last one I really liked was Duel of Champions before it became complete shit.

How long does an average match last?
Does the game have potential to be somewhat competitive?
Does it have a decently high skillcap?
Is it even good?
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>>121512507
I faced a golem Vet no so long ago. Won by the skin of my teeth due to somewhat lucky draws of both healing and damage.
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>>121512241
It's songhai niche. You flood the board and abuse deathwatch, shadow creep and control, I put my minions down, stall and combo you for even 25 life when I get my cards straight.
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What's the best vanar legendary? I'm slowly making my deck, got an aspect of the mountains and now I don't know if the tree is better than the deer.
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>>121513618
Pretty sure the deer is much better, I see it a lot
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>lose 3 times because I queue up and afk and forget I have a match in the background.

I need to go to sleep.
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>>121513618
Gravity well has won me plenty of games as Vanar
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Just started this game. There's like 3 different art styles going on... the cartoony character art looks really shitty. Hopefully if it gets popular they'll replace it.
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I need 2-4 early game 2/3 mana neutral/Abyssian minions that are good on their own. Primus Fist is fucking useless and I hate to slap it down on an empty board.
Any suggestions?
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>>121520953
Forgot to mention that I currently use 3 Sarlacs and 3 Gloomchasers.
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>>121520953
Healing Mystic
Lady Locke
Ephemeral Shroud
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Tips for a Vanar deck? I'm trying to run a Vespyr shenanigans deck with bears and chasers and glacial elementals but it's not working out super well. I'm finding myself with no decent answer to abyssian minion floods. Running 3 fenrirs of course.

inb4 don't play vanar
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>>121534573
Your first problem is the bear is shit and not worth it at all
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Where the fuck is everyone? rank 17 with a minute 40 sec queue???
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>>121541610
Rank 13 and i have about 6 minutes in queue so far.
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>>121517929
Noticed this too, literally my biggest gripe about this game. The menu looks different from the background, which looks different from both the character art and the pixel. Will this be polished at all or is it going to look like shit all along? The orb-opening page especially looks like shit. If everything was pixel-artsy it would be so much better.
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>>121541610
matchmaking servers fucked up, probably. I was trying to test a deck with a friend and relogging didn't help either of us connect.
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Server dead?
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>>121543050
See
>>121542531
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>>121512608
>How long does an average match last?
2-7 minutes
>Does the game have potential to be somewhat competitive?
Very much so.
>Does it have a decently high skillcap?
Yes.
>Is it even good?
Yes, if you like this sort of stuff
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I've started the game as Vet and had a pretty decent time so far, but now I've sort of crashed for the most part and can't get past rank 19/20.

I recently got two of the mind control spells and they've given me a bit of an advantage, but I'm still getting my ass handed to me by Abyssians and Songhai.

Is Vet mediocre at midgame and good at endgame or something?
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>mfw they didn't play around Star's Fury
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>>121543843
It's the P2W race. Once you get the necessary ~9 legendaries and ~9 epics, you're pretty much in Diamond+ no matter how you play.

Before that you're not going to have a good time.
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>>121543843
Vet isn't very friendly for new players because most of their great cards are epics or legendaries (Star's Fury, Portal Guardians, the Healers, Third Wish), although there are some good rares and commons for budget decks, like Fireblaze Obelysks and mainly the Scarabs. It's not unusable, but it's not that great to run with just the basics.
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>>121544650
...yeah, the only 3 decent Vet cards I have are Fireblaze and the 2 mind control spells.

>>121544321
>>121544650
I guess I'll switch to Magmar for the time being, or maybe Abyssian, then. Thanks for saving me the suffering.
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>>121458361
losing
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So as I understand, I've been incredibly lucky, but I don't actually know how to get gud. Please teach me /dyg/
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so my biggest concern about the game so far is that the good cards for each faction are REALLY good

like, "why the fuck would you use anything else" good

vetruvian's aymara healers, portal guardians, etc

it makes me feel like once i get into later game, it's less build a custom deck and more "pick a faction, build their cookie cutter deck and maybe 3 optional minions of your choice if you don't want to lose"

like i guess that's how meta goes in games like this, but i want to believe it can be balanced better

have they addressed just how good legendaries tend to be?
>>
is online working yet?
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>>121548893
What rank are you, and what are you losing to? You're 2/3 of the way to the ideal Vet deck, and the missing 1/3 holds strong answers to Healyonars and burn songhais (which constitutes a lot of gold+ matches, which may be why you're having trouble).
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>>121549991

Magmar and Songhai mostly, and I'm at exactly 10
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>>121550387
Sounds about right.

>wildfire ankh x3
>amara healer x1
>the +2 dmg artifact x3
>silhouette tracer x2-3

Range is the answer - it forces the opponent to take the offensive, and it'll eventually bait them into vulnerable position for amara healers or Star's Fury/TW combo. If you're still having trouble with songhai artifacts (the backstab one is the most problematic) add Rasha's curse. It's also good for Healyonar's regalia.

>dunecaster
>fireblaze obelysk
>windrunner
>cosmic flesh

These are some of the weaker cards that can be replaced.
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>>121551221

Thank you so much. The only thing I've switched out so far is the dunecaster and the windrunners for a ankh the staff and some sillouette tracers but I'm already doing okay vs Songhai now
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>>121513429
>Songay and Abysshit arguing over who is the most cancerous

Fuck off
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When do you reroll your quests?
>>
Truly a dead game.
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So I just got 2 sarlacs in like 5 packs. Is there any deck I CAN'T put them in?
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>>121562002
Healyonar
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>mirror match
>I draw nothing but unusable shit.

every fucking time.

Fuck this rngfest
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>>121563109
Just as I say that I draw 3 spell cards, replace of all them, and draw another 3 spell cards.
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>>121563307
>playng songkek
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>Holy Immolation

How is this balanced?
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At what point should I be retiring? This is my first Gauntlet, and I'm at 7-0 so far.
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>>121565712
You automatically retire when you lose 3 games, so just keep playing. You lose absolutely nothing from not retiring on your own
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>>121565874
Don't the rewards cap out at a certain point though?
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i am so cold and lonely
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What's a good balance for a gauntlet deck? In terms of mana costs
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>>121566060
They cap at 12.
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>go second
>draw this
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>>121568652
I honestly don't know if it's a bad draw or a good one.
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>>121570859
It's pretty tight. You can do Bonechill and grab 2 orbs, then dump your Crystal Cloaker and your Snowchaser with their Infiltrate active
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What's a good Vanar deck?
I wanna try snow lady now.
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>>121491582
He'll probably still be essential to abyss post nerf though, abby needs her sarlactose

>>121512241
Songay OTK combos are not as reliable as you seem to think

>>121520953
I drop goats because they force the opponent to play around their dying wish

>>121549331
Factions all have OP shit because they are trying to keep match times low. If everybody is OP, games end by turn 8 or 9. "Balancing better" would result in matches taking ages because cards are all too weak to turn the tide or win matches on their own, which leads to everybody quitting because its boring as fuck. Your comment about the later game occurs in literally any game though, people just go with fotm shit, even if stuff is perfectly balanced the meta shifts to favor a particular sort of play based on how many people are running deck archetypes.
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Why is shadow nova allowed to proc in the same turn that is dropped? I keep losing against this card, and I see no way of playing around it at all, since it's going to be more or less 6 AOE damage and I can't use my dispells on it.
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>>121573441
It's not THAT bad. The first one is less up front damage than Spiral Technique. and you play around it with general spacing, don't let them get high priority minions AND face damage with one cast.

Basically you just have to play aggro and kill them before they find and drop all three.
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>>121571240
>Tempest

:^)
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>>121573335
>everything is OP

Some factions are clearly more OP than others.
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>>121573787
>Just kill them as fast as you can bruh !

That's literally an advice at the same level of "Just get the other guy's Hp to 0"
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>>121575018
An actual piece of advice is to run Lightbender. Dispel removes Shadow Creep, and Lightbender is just good in general
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>having comfy time in challenges
>finaly get enough of online games to get the last two community packs
>it's just a bunch of provoke minions and you have to spam spells in the right sequence
I don't know why I expected this community to come up with something actualy original and fun
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>>121575018
Telling you to switch to an aggro deck from whatever mid-range deck you're running is actual advice.
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>>121575018
Its not actually that hard. if you're playing aggro or midrange you should be able to bash their face in with relative ease, and any control deck will have monsters or damage big enough to laugh at shadow creep when it hits the board. You just gotta play more senpai, sounds like you need more experience. Try playing a shadow creep deck so you know its vulnerabilities
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>>121573335
>goats
What is that exactly?
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>>121575596
Azure Horn Shaman
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>5 turns without minions in hand
I need a better deck.
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>>121575704
My problem is that they're fucking useless If I don't have anything else on board or it's Deathwatch utility Sarlacs.
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>>121575715
>Songhai being sohai*

kek.

*TR Notes: Songhai is "stupid" in Chinese
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>>121576380
I wish. I'm a Sarlac Abyssian with a few heals and a bit of Rush minions.
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>>121576168
Yeah its true, but they have the added benefit of synergizing well with ritual banishing and dark ritual. Beyond sarlacs and gloomchasers, its more of a flavor pick anyways. Used to run a set of rockys before the goats but I feel like goats just have more viability as the game goes on and rocky just has less.
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>>121571846
Here's what I got to diamond with
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