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The 4 monthly cards are shit edition

>What is DUELYST?

DUELYST is a competitive strategy card game focused on tactical combat, squad building, and ranked ladder play.

>Play in Chrome
http://beta.duelyst.com/

>Client Download
https://updates.counterplay.co/launcher

>Squad Builder
http://duelystdb.com/

>faction overview, guides and general information
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Getting_Started

Now in open beta.

Previous thread >>120746619
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RED
DECK
WINS
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>>120940237
I mean they need to spend far more spirit than any other faction for top-level decks.
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>>120940457
I would really like to see what you consider a top-level Vanar deck.
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;_;
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Went from Silver to Gold the first day of the season with this deck, 0 losses. Sarlac is some broken shit, especially if i consuming rebirth him and suddenly there are 4 sarlacs on field.
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>>120940718
cancer
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>>120940718
Now you have a month of doing dailies in gold D:
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>>120940718
> Abysshit

Why should people give a fuck about it ?
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>ladder reset
>meet people with ribbons in silver
>they're all shitters that I switfly remove from the premise

Excellent
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>>120940718

>8 legendaries
>bragging about getting to gold

jesus christ
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I think the "most played" section of the profile page is bugged

My main by far is Vanar, but it still says Lyonar is my most played

Vanar isn't even in the top 3
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>>120941008
>>120941306
>>120941448
>>120941694

thanks for being my stepping stone ;)
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>>120941536
Probably just dicking around before they have to enter the terminal cancer wards higher up on the ladder
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>>120942143
I've not even played for two days now
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>>120942214

Oh no believe me they try and they bring all their legendaries to the field kek
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What should my next purchase be?
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>>120942143

Thanks for supporting the game with your money so the rest of us can play for free and reach the same rank as you by being better players :)
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>>120942647
I haven't spent a cent on this game, I disenchanted all the epics and leggos I don't use in order to make the deck. Stay mad though :)
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>>120942764

>10k deck
>I just disenchanted :^)

ye sure senpai lol
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I like this card's design, that'll probably be one of the first legendaries I'll craft once I finish getting all thoses fucking Vet lego cards.
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>>120942845
oops
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>>120942831
It took me 5.2k spirit to craft it, I already had half the legendaries and epics needed ;)
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>>120943060
>It took me 5200 spirits to reach Gold

Jesus Christ.
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>>120943215
enjoy your Golem deck, poorfag ;)

hopefully I play against you a lot for ez wins on my way to rank 0
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>>120943031
It's effect is situational at best (even if it annoys the fuck out of Songhai) but it just has really good stats in general.
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>>120943431

Your deck is so bad it hurts, I could beat that with only commons and core desu
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>tfw 3 legendaries from 2 orbs
>none useful
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>>120943919
That's 1050 spirits anon, use them to craft a good one.
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Is Songay OTK deck expensive? I think I'd rather use that to reach Gold than getting rekt by Oy-veytruvians' ebin legendary decks and Sarlac Abyssians.
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Do you give cool names to your squad anon ?
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I need advice on what to craft next . Im still rather new and run Abyssian Wraith and Magmar * Former much more then latter but plan to do it once abyssian is completed deckwise* I already have 1 vorpal and 1 spectral, but should i craft spectrals to 3 ,1st sarlac ,1st locke or get 3 makantor warbeasts ? I have 1050 spirit currently
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>>120944602
You should fuck off and stop playing cancer.
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>>120944672
>every faction other than the on I'm playing is cancerous
Suck my dick, senpai.
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>>120944879
You do realise there is more factions than Abysshit, Songay or Fagmar in the game, right ?
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>>120944602
Sarlac easy
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>>120944940
Oyveytruvian and lymongar are also cancer m8
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>>120940149
>The 4 monthly cards are shit edition
I've been loving Wind Runner, get outta here
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>>120944940
Im the guy who originally posted, not the one who insulted you. But yeah i do intend to branch out once i complete abyssian, I dislike songhai personally.i Want to try vetruvian eventually
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>beating peopel with this songhai deck i slapped together for a quest that have legitimate fucking decks
>makantors, multiple sarlacs, etc
>I dont even have fucking inner focus

Woah....So this.. Is the power of silver...
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Will Vanar or Lyonar ever be good?

I'm starting to regret not investing in Magmar instead
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>>120945909
Wind Runner is just win more in that pic, you got your hands on his bitch with a ayyyylmara and two fat fucks, doubt Wind Runner would be as useful without those bastards
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>>120943431
I'm already at s-rank. Don't diss the golems.
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Why do people say Dioltas is bad? It's been pretty damn useful for me so far, even though I'll replace it with some legendary eventually.

Maybe it's only good in Vanar.
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>>120945909
Playing around when you already won the match is bad manner, Droopy. Could've killed that Abysshit without thoses two extra minions.
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>>120947212
Maggers peeps clap their hands over their ears and pretend they're totally fair. Dont worry anon, nerf police are coming for their removals, which will be an indirect buff for your chosen factions
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>>120943060
>only 5200 spirits
>I just disenchanted :^)
lmao

LMAO
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>>120947485
Post deck, lets see these gogos
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>>120945112
it's called pay2vian, friendo
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>>120947538

it's decent in lyonar when you can divine bond it's ass for a sweet 10/10 with provoke
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>>120947883
>you must make fun of this video game the same way i do or i will be cross

autism is a merciless thing
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>>120947280
The tempo play >>120909132

>>120947593
But it's fun
I'm used to real card games where you'd plop your entire hand down on the table after you won to show your opponent just how fucked they actually were.
And if you lost you'd show a couple of the top cards of your deck and have a laugh at how far away a key card was.
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>>120947597
Magmar will be perfectly balanced if all their spell costs are increased by 1
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>>120948253
chill
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>>120948297
I agree with this. How do you feel about sarlac being a 3 drop?
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>>120948557
How do you feel about it being a 0/1?
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>>120948689
2 drop 0/1 would be totally fine. 3 drop 0/1 would be overkill.
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>>120948689
Can a 0/1 even attack ?
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>>120948557
Sarlac at 3 would really just kill the card for everyone who isn't Abyssian. At that point you might as well make it a faction card. I don't know how to fix Sarlac without making him totally shit or just destroying all the Abyssian cards that make him bullshit.

Maybe just give him to some other faction but that's not the most elegant of solutions.
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>>120947003
Post dick.
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>>120948995
> 2 drop
>1/1
>Dying Wish : when destroyed, reappear in a random tile next to your General
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>>120948941
It can if you buff it.
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>>120949346
Yeah, if you buff it, I was wondering if it can trigger a counterattack even though it does no damage.
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>>120949469
0 damage minions don't counterattack.
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>>120949469
It can't.

See: tombstone
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>>120949181
Already destroyed it, quest completed
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>>120949323
This would be perfectly acceptable actually, but I've never been too butthurt by sarlac. I feel like the moaning myrtles that complain 24/7 about abysshits should weigh in so we can figure out if they are actually retarded.
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>>120947485
>>120947752
Still waiting anon. I wasnt the Abysshit you were replying to but you cant say you played mad golems and not post deck to demonstrate truth you mong cunt
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>>120940718
how to take screenshot of my deck like this
give link please
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> 0/2 useless walls are Vespyr
> 3/3 Blazing Spines aren't

Are we kinda supposed to keep track of all these stupid little things that don't make sense?
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>>120950809
duelystdb right in the op
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>>120950937
yes
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>>120950937
Ancient Grove is a Vespyr but its Treants aren't

Voice of the Wind is not a Vespyr but its Maerids are
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Well this just made my day , its good to be nice .Should i still use my 1050 spirit for another one?
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>>120951242
They dont identify as vespyrs k take a humanities class ffs god fuckin patriarchy
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>>120951261
Depend on what you play.

I think Sarlac is a nice addition to a Abyssian or Vetruvian squad but I don't think you should craft it unless you've got every legendary you might need for your favorite faction.
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>>120952026
I play wraith abyssian currently, im the guy a few posts up who was debating on what to craft.
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>>120948557
>>120948689
How would you feel about 'resummon at the end of your turn'
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>>120951242
Maybe all Vespyr needs is more of their minions actually being Vespyr
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>>120952569
Nah, there are enough Vespyr minions.

What they really need is more worthwhile effects that actually use the Vespyr archetype. Glacial Elemental is the only good Vespyr-related ability right now.

I wish it had 4 health.
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>tfw you have a dick in your mouth as you play this game
what race do I play?
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>>120952423
I'd rather it be a 3 drop or 0/1 than end of turn, that'll slow Abyss down too much, which is killer for a faction which depends so much on tempo
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>>120953467
magmar
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casual or vs. AI mode when?
I just want to get the packs from playing all the classes but silver is still filled with Songhai and legendaries every game so grinding to 11 takes forever.
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>>120953091
This is true, theres the Bears, but they're so frail they're hardly worth it.

Need a 3 drop that gains 1/1 or something

And something that decreases the cost by 1. As it is Glacial elementals are the only worthwhile synergy Vespyrs have
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>>120953467
>tfw you have a dick in your mouth as you play this game

w-what
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>>120954752
I want an AI mode to test squad without pressure.
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>that one card with cool as fuck design but actually useless
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>>120955818
a lot of cards like the reaper of nine moons
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>>120953467
abysshit
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>>120953091
Bump both bear and glacial to 4 health
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>build some anon's deck that got him to Rank 5
> couldn't even get out of 15
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>>120955818
>draft one in gauntlet
>clears enemies 3 drop
>teleports one tile and gets me a managlobe

Ya gotta believe in the heart of the cards my man
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What does /dyg/ think of these cards?
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>>120956642
It's the start of a new season right now, you will see a lot of last season's diamond and S-rank division players starting around rank 18 or so. Expect that for another week
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>>120957051
Last two are
CUTE
U
T
E
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>>120957051

Archone Spellbinder is really good, Synja is really solid in certain decks, Pandora is meh
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>>120957051
Good legendary cards that are currently underclassed by faction legendary minions.
Except for Red Synja which is bretty good.
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>>120957051
Pandora is too unreliable. I've face her a couple time and I generally had no issue dispelling/removing her with a spell.

Never faced Red Synja, looks pretty good but you'll probably get fucked if you rely to much on random damages.

Archon's got the best 6-drop stats and fuck up Songay's combodecks.
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>>120957373
This is something I've noticed in this game. Not just legendary, lot of neutral cards in general just get outclassed by faction cards. Seems like the only neutrals I tend to run are lady Locke and healing mystic. Other wise the factions have cards for everything else.
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>>120953467
What do you mean, which race? This applies to all of them.
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>>120957051
I don't get how stats are calculated in this game
for 5 mana you get a 4/9
for 1 mana more you get 3 more attack and a decent effect
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>>120958078
Youre also forgetting emerald rejuvinators and the doggies, Oh and primus fist, mechazor and his bits are also seen in songhai


Past that its because class cards are meant to be more powerful than nuetrals so each class feels different instead of just having a different skinned general
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>>120958419
Some class cards have really shitty stat allocation or abilities compared to neutrals, Suntide Maiden is worse than Twilight Sorcerer in literally every Lyonar deck even though sorcerer is a neutral.
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>>120958217
That 4/9 can cost as little as 2 mana if you got 3 Golem Metallurgists on board. I assume most golems are balanced with this in mind
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>>120958843
Not entirely true. Specifically because the maiden interacts with heal synergy units whereas its a gamble with twilight sorcerer unless youve managed to only use one spell

Its just that maiden is so much more prone to removal compared to sorcerer because his effect is already triggered
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>>120958217
One more mana can make a world of difference. A better direct comparison can be made with the 6-drop golem. Same stat numbers, 7/9 and an 8/8. For the Archon you get a decent effect, for the golem you get golem synergy.
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>>120955219
maybe it's figurative?
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>>120960331
>not taking the lit-fig dick.
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>>120957267

Good to know I'm not the only one that sees Red Synja with two red ribbons on her head.
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Does anybody have a good aggro deck for Abyssian / Vetruvian / Songhai? I have all cards and legendaries and I'm tired of losing in turn 2.
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>>120961397
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>>120961548

I'll try this thanks.
But too few legendaries, can't I improve it with more legendaries?
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>>120961548
And it is also incomplete isn't it?
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>>120961974
>>120962324

you could maybe run 2 revenants
grasp of agony and rite of the undervault x3 are not pictured
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>4 mana 14 damage
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>>120964497
LMAO JUST STAY IN THE BACK BRO

LMAO I'M JUST GOING TO SUMMON RANGED MINIONS NOW
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>>120964497
>Need to be in a position to backstab with your general
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>>120966149
That's pretty easy to work around it if you have that minion that teleport your General
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>>120965389
Playing against songays is actually fun.
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>people are still dropping shadow watchers on me
What the fuck are you people doing do you not know how to build a proper deck
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>>120971656
Senpai... senpai senpai. Not everyone has legendaries. some could even be beginners.
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Why would someone ever position like this vs Vetruvian?
It's a death wish.
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> rank S assholes stalling around Silver 15

HURRY THE FUCK UP MORON I WANT TO WIN AGAIN
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>>120974729
I just want my packs from Songhai and Vanar
the exp from losing is crap
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>want to make a vetruvian deck cuz egyptian robots
>can't cuz too expensive
I've been playing songay but their playstyle just doesn't fit with me. Also, I have some luck with drops on this game, my only lego drops were 2 sarlacs and they seem useless with every faction except abyssian, which I hate.
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>Come back after a day
>Can't log in
Is this a bug?
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>>120976537
Sarlac is amazing in Vetruvian, man.
Keeps sticky, consistent targets for Third Wish and his death powers up your Portal Guardians.

I've won too many games because of Sarlac staying on the board long enough for me to get Third Wishes up.

He works similarly in Vanar with Razorbacks. And he can become a terror with Mark of Solitude.
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>>120976765
>Third Wish
>Portal Guardians
Anon, I'm not rich. I have one star fury and a lot of dervishes, that's it.
Still, I should dust shit for the portal guys at least. They seem broken as fuck.
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What's the general consensus on healyonar? No matter what happens I can't seem to beat it.
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>>120977106
It loses to all the popular control decks, but it shits on people in low ranks because shitters only play aggro decks. Overall its probably a high tier 2 or low tier 1 deck.
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'ello! /dyg/ its me again!
so tournament is tomorrow! and so i sit here in front a screen who wants a friendly round and a free win
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>>120977061
Vetruvian and "im not rich" dont belong in the same sentence, if you dont have x3 of all the epics and legos you need then theres no reason to play vetruvian
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>>120977061
Well I never said it was cheap to make, just that Sarlac is in other factions. Hell, now that most Magmars have stopped running Natural Selection it's becoming a card they field too.

>>120977296
Midrange tempo deck that demolishes aggro shitters. Loses pretty easily to control as it lacks a way to remove big threats beyond Martyrdom which will often be too big of a health swing in the late game when used on a big threat to really recover from.

>>120977460
I'm still upset I didn't get to play last week (and if it's the same time tomorrow then I'll just never be able to join in) so I'll play a game. I'm droopy.
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>>120977460
Fuck you, my deck isn't ready mane
;_;
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>>120977296
I'm pretty shit and only started playing yesterday so that's probably why, guess I just need to get good.

Also I've been having fun with songhai but I'm guessing they're less viable the higher up the ladder you go, from what I gather from these threads. Is there a tier list or anything similar?

And is it possible to get by without paying anything? Or am I likely to start getting destroyed at a certain point.

Sorry for all the dumb questions
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>>120977776
I'd put Songhai right up there in bullshit levels with Abyssian. I'm so thankful healonar is around keeping them in check or else the ladder would be 90% Songhai aggro.

Too bad the ladder is now 90% Abyssian instead.
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>>120977676
well Im not ready ethier so that's why im asking for a couple rounds!
>>120977593
well....next week is gonna be a thursday Thanks to personal issues[/spoilers]
so you got a chance there!
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>>120978071
What a coincidence, I'll be on a flight to China on Thursday.
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>>120977776
There are two types of Songhai, Lantern Fox-based and spell-based. The spell-based is pretty bad at ranks 0-5, but Lantern Fox is always good.

A tier list for ladder just depends on what kinds of decks are popular at any given moment, but control magmar, lantern fox songhai, ramp/big abyssian, and combo vetruvian are at the top.
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>>120977490
I like dervishes and bunker, even if it's pretty shitty.
>>120977776
You basically need lantern foxes. Buff them and win in one turn. Surviving until then is the hard part, but it's easy to climb to at least gold like this.
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>>120976553
You have to play everyday or they delete your account for inactivity
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>>120940718
Lol I'm making this. Just went dusted everything I had only got 5k dust. I still need so many legedaries
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>>120978218
for fucks sake, fiiiiine tuesday hows that?
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>>120978581
As long as it's not the morning, sure

I wasn't asking for any sort of flexibility on your part, just sorta generally whining.
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>>120978745
shut up your getting flexing and ability you understand me anon YOU WILL LIKE ME
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>>120978545
theres a cheaper variant with 1 less legendary made by some guy on the forums if you want to try that instead
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Thanks
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>>120980717
oh for fucks sak- see this is the point where if i wasn't such a shitter i would complain GG tho
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>>120980841
Nah, that was before the mulligans. I ended up with a stable hand so it's not like I was on top deck mode the entire game.
I just thought it was an amusing opener.

I actually shuffled all 3 and ended up getting one back though
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>Change bad starting hand
>get the same stuff at the next turn draw
Does it even mix the cards
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>>120981482
Just shuffled better
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>>120979209
Thanks dude, I hope to see you on the ladder one day : )
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That feel when don't know how to set up a good twitch.
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>against aggro songhai
>go second
>turn 3 collect a mana orb and put down an aymara healer
>turn 4 put down an aymara on curve
>turn 5 put down an aymara
>he concedes
Eat a dick
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>>120984561
Ayylmao healer a shit
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>>120984645
Aggro shitter go home
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>>120984890
Joke's on you, I'm a Healyonar :>
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>against magmar
>Player 2 no draws
>no summons
>no summons on my turn
>equips claws and it hurts
>i summon trying to setup
>keeps smacking me and he still hasn't summoned, only equip claws
>finally got my minions to kill next turn
>only got a wall for protection. i'm low health
>he finally summons a monster and kills me

I'm sad
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>>120985124
>Playing against vetru
>already gone through all his silence or lose the game cards
>already ate the third wishes
>mfw im out of silences for the fucking ayymara healers
>mfw ive healed my entire healthpool and then some over the course of this fucking game
>mfw were going to fatigue and ive still got fucking healing

That was slowest grindiest fucking win ive ever had, even against other healyonar
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>>120985124
Oh. Then carry on.

FemVet is mai waifu
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>>120978271
Dervish bunker is still core Versaceian. But if you have Star's Fury/Third wish (obv as many of each as your welfare ass can afford) you can now turtle AND win.
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>eco healyonar deck
>my only trickery is staying in place and pretending to not have cards

I swear to god the only thing lyonar needs is trickery.

>>120985469
I know that feel, except against healyonar. Shit was long as hell.
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>>120985565
I assume you're talking about obelisks? No they're really not core. Lots of people play them but they're not even close to being in every top Vet deck. Pretty sure the majority /doesn't/ run them, actually.

When everyone's running 3-6 dispels you can't be having half your deck list being completely invalidated from a dispel. Especially not when Abyssian is so popular and can just lure them away.
Magmar's probably second most played and Makators love that shit too. Not to mention Plasma Storm already crippling Vet creatures enough as it is.

At least you can buff and re-activate Portal Guardians but an obelysk becomes completely dead. You're better off with creatures who just plain carry value on their own.

They work well in shitter ranks when people either don't have or don't run dispels the same way Shadow Watcher does. After that they become less and less appealing to field.
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>>120985481
Will we ever get femgens?
Any news? I haven't been on their grounds lately
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>>120987325
We know we're getting them eventually. They just haven't said anything concrete in terms of when, I don't think.
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>>120985481
>>120987864
I assume her tits will be covered when we do.
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>>120991162
SPOOKY SCARY SKELETON ruin everything
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>third turn
>I just summon healer and another light
>I concede this battle to you
Why?
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Any idea when the next expansion of cards is coming out?
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>>120992346
>void hunter
>flameblood
Looks like some silver league songhai opponent. There's your answer
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>>120992492
the games in fucking beta dude why are you talking about expansions?
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Does anyone have the ecofriendly healyonar deck?
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>>120993210
Because they talked about it earlier
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>>120993210
>>120993485
Vetruvian is cutest girl

Songhai second cutest as much as I hate to admit it
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>>120994313
>human magmar, probably female
what the fuck is this shit
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>>120994313
>songhai doesn't get cute catears

it's FUCKING SHIT
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>>120994313
>Vanar not a giant bearman

I'm disappointed.
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>>120994558
>>120995492

They're the 7 sisters, what did you expect friendo
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>>120995696
Explains that canon commonality. Still it's lazy and disappointing that they're all basically tiny figures with a tube.
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>>120994313
I can't even tell what half of that is.
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Page 9 boys
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>>120994313
>>120997635
It's a thing
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>winning with Aymara Healer effect
>winning with Time Maelstrom
>beating Abyssianshitters
>beating Mechaz0r shitters
Holy shit. It's perfect. It's everything I could ever hope for.
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>>121001992
I've been setting up wins from Aspect of the Mountains since people ignore my 2/1 guys and walls. Are people not that exposed to Vanar? Last season got to 5 simply because players just focused down my Glacials.
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>>121001239
I swear from the sprite its as if she's wearing some sort of dragon/drake mask.
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>>121002306
Vanar is the ugly duckling, they ain't bad, but they are memetastic bad.
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>>121003060
I'm aware they're not the best for the top tier play, but I enjoy what they do and I'm curious to see where it goes by the end of the year since they plan to add more cards then or so for factions.
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>>121003607
Yeah they said around 100
I wish it was soon.
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>>121003735
They really need to increase the flow of new content if they want people to keep playing.

4 shitty cards don't equal a month of play time.
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STOP GIVING ME WINTERBLADES, FUCK

NOT EVEN VANAR WANTS THEM

HOW DO WE FIX WINTERBLADE?
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when are the rank 0 cuntbags swimming in legendaries going to fuck back to their division? they're really shitting up my silver experience with their bullshit

> 30 minute game of chasing down a fuckwad vetruvian with three of that 2/6 asshole that lets their general run away like a pussy
> finally fucking corner him down
> star's fury + third wish lol enjoy 20 instant damage to your general's face
> u mad? u mad I shit on you boy?

:^)
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>>121004327
I'm still confused why Songhai gets the range attack artifact when Vanar's general has a damn gun crossbow thing.
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>>121004676
To be fair, Songhai was in the game first.
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>>121004351
>look son, he mad.jpg
:^)
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>>120994313
K-Kawaii
What faction is the last one? The one with the tube top.
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>>121004782
Eh, give Vanar something like it but only on minions or some shit. Make's Winterblade look more appealing.
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>>121005013
Neutral.
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>>121004676
Thematically, artifacts are supposed to give minion abilities to the general.

Vet gets Blast, Abyssian gets Deathwatch, and Vanar gets FUCKING STUN LOL
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>>121004156
Seems like they'll release expansions after the Beta/Steam release. Also they're going to announce "Battle Pets" soon.
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>>121006257
Guessing those will just be like vanity pets in wow that just follow your general around and do nothing?
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>>121006481
Pretty certain that's it.

>>121006097
I get that, but really it should have been planned around what the faction wants/needs and Songhai already has all the burn spells from across the room. Also I find it funny if a Magmar artifact gave rebirth.
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>>121005295
So those are normal units?
Glad to hear that, I thought it was the new general at first.
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>>121006764
Yeah they're all upcoming creatures known as the Seven Sisters.

Apparently they'll have a new keyword associated with them that has something to do with their little mark on their cannons. Dunno if that means they'll each get a new keyword or their keywords will each do something different in relation to those marks.

As for alternate generals, the Vetruvian's alternate general has had art shown of her >>120985481
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Here, I fixed it
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They ever think about adding trap type cards to the game? I wonder how they would even work in this.
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>>121007159
Now its even more shit. Congratulation.
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Anyone hit s-rank yet after the reset?
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>>121009125
I'm close. Rank 4 or so. Tree of Savior has been distracting me for the most part though.
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>>120991162
Can you please stop posting that image?
Its triggering me.
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>>121011394
You can't run from your problems.
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How many wins until the daily win bonus stops giving gold?
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steam release when
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>>120969642
>implying it'll ever be your turn and he won't just triple inner focus a celestial fantom, either having first equipped 2 bloodrage masks and killing you, or ending with 8 gates and killing you
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>>121013740
what good does that fucking do? bring more casual shitters into the game? is that what you want?
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>>121014926
the game could benefit from a larger playerbase desu

do you want it to slowly die and fade out of existence by the end of next year?
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>>121010854
Can Panddo get killed through counterattack ?
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>>121014926
i was a kickstarter backer so i wanted to know when i'll get free stuff
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>>121015136
You mean the end of this year?

>>121015420
Yes. "Attack" and "counterattack" are completely different things.
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>>121015474
>kickstarter backer
>"free" stuff
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>>121015601
right, right

my uh....invested stuff? i funded it because i wanted to be made desu, i even forgot about the game for more than a year so now i'm just happy it got made and i can play it
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Any draw requests?
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>>121010854
>Tree of Savior has been distracting me for the most part though.
gabija?
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>>121017486
Sleepy Faie in pajamas with a Snow Chaser in her arms.
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>>121017486
A Spectral Revenant and Nightsorrow Assassins drinking tears together.
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>>121017507
Laima
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fucking tempest

that is the most retarded shit
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>>121017486
Songhai or Abyssian shitting down peoples chimneys for christmas. Because fuck your fun
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>>121017486

healyonar being an OP piece of shit and all other factions bowing down to that stupid fucking faction
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>>121019705
Healonar shits on aggro and holds it own against midrange. Control isn't in its favor.
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>>121020265

Post an Abyssian / Sognhai /Vetruvian deck that wins against Healyonar.
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>>121020520
>Vetruvian
Dump creatures with loads of health, then stall until you can do Time Maelstrom and win
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>>121020520
Mine has zero issues against healonar

And songhai's one of the decks healonar counters
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>>121020642
Cant because he just uses tempest, hits my face, martyrdoms, heals and does damage to me.
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>>121020961
Post it and ill create it.
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>>121021012
Tempest does fuckall to a Portal Guardian
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>>121020961
I think healyonar is fine, but it's extremely boring to play against.
God forbid you're a control deck against healyonar, because your match is now officially taking 20 minutes.
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>>121021156

And Martyrdom? how about 3 tempest?
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>>121021142
Got me to rank 0 twice now and I'm almost to a third already.

>>121021224
Nah I love that. The whole appeal to the deck is a completely dominating late game. I love it when games actually get to that point so I can flaunt my superiority.
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>>121021392
>Only 2 Third Wishes
For what purpose? And is there a particular reason why you've gone with Windrunner over Murkblood?
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>>121021392

I have 3 third wishes, should I have 3 copies?
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>>121021365
Martyrdom on a Portal Guardian is a massive health swing. Vetruvian is a late-game deck. How exactly are you losing to Healonar?

3 Tempest to deal with a single 3 drop is also some hilarious board advantage.

>>121021507
>>121021591
Third Wishes are dead in hand too often, I've found. A card that I'm swapping out 90% of the time isn't a card I want to run at 3. 1 is too few as well.

Wind Runner is a new addition to replace the Lady Lockes. Still testing him but overall I'm really happy with him. I think I'll be keeping him. I don't really wanna blow 3k dust on Murkbloods when last time I tested him I didn't like it.
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>>121021714

Bashing his face, how else?
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>have 1600 golds
>can't spend them all on gauntlet
oh well time to buy some orbs. Should i spend half of it?
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>>121017486
lilithe's bending down, smiling while squishing her tits like one of those anime meme.
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>first time playing the games
>matched with 100 wins on 3 factions
didn't even know half of the mechanics of the game and i get my ass raped hard

When will the game get big?
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>>121023156
You know you want to blow it all
Just do it
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>>121023343
New season just started
And never, it's condemned to suffer a slow and agonizing death
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Been playing for about a week, total scrub. Liking Magmar and it's what I've been putting most of my resources towards.

Anybody have any tips? I feel like I might have too many spells but I really don't know. Trying to steer away from overbuffing/grow units because they inevitably just get removed.
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>>121023343
The new season just started, current silver is pretty much gold and bronze is silver.
Give it a few days, you'll be facing scrubs like yourself.
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>>121023631
Need more silithar.
And plasma storms
Dampening wave a shit, get them eggs
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>>121024216
Haven't gotten my hands on plasma storm yet but i definitely intend to. What's wrong with dampening? It seems nice to toss onto an enemy I need to deal with but don't have removal/hits too hard to eat counterattacks.

Would you recommend dumping all three veteran silithars into the deck?
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>>121024405
Veterans are some of the best 4 drops in the game, so yeah, get those
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>>121024405
Yes, and drop elders too. Those fuckers are worth every single mana spent on them and a general annoyance.
Dampening wave is not bad if you are a begginer, so it's decent for now. Later on, you will never other spells, like everything egg related and plasma storms, and you can't have too many spells as magmar. Mana burn is also needed, you really need dispels in this game
Also, warbeast. This is a must in every single magmar deck, and everyone hates them for it. Get them.
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>completely demolish the same Abyssian player 3 times in a row
>he is either fed up or done with dailies and I get matched up against him a fourth time, but this time he's on lyonar
>his game goes much better this time and I'm on the ropes
>Aymaras, Emerald Rejuvinators, and Healing Mystics all just barely keeping me in the game
>survive sub-10 HP for at least 7 turns
>have gotten tempest'd 5 times now because of Loremaster but am still hanging on
>I've started to gain board control as my big creatures outpace his
>he's been hugging the wall the entire time as I retreat to put myself in a safe position while I keep putting out creatures
>can't star's fury
>6th tempest comes out; kills an aymara and my sarlac on the other side of the board
>he's left on 2 HP
>Sarlac spawns right on top of him
>he swings, fearing any kind of +attack buff (which I have none of in hand)
>sarlac spawns right on top of him again
>he's on 1 HP
>a 20+ minute game has been decided by two Sarlac spawns on a completely empty board
>I tip him 5 gold while cackling madly at the victory screen
/blog
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>>121024994
>enabling cancer
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Is there anywhere I can check my ribbon progress?
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>>121024405
He's just a dumbass. Dampening wave is fine. Putting 1 or 2 could save your ass or your minion's ass. And it cost 0 mana.

More silithars. Three generations of them from the baby to elder silithar. Makantor beast is a must. You are in fact still lack a lot of spells. Get natural selection, 2 should be fine. Fortitude should be 3 since it's really good. Plasma storm put 2 of them. Put 2 mana burn in your decks. And you lack claw artefacts, it's pretty good against obelysk spam vetruvian.

You have all those spells mentioned, you should reduce the number of dispel and displacing dogs. Armadillo is shit, you can replace with silithar. Phalanxar is very situational, more often it's dead before you can deal anything significant so keep at 1 or remove completely. Twilight sorcerer isn't magmar cup of tea, remove it. First sword is shit, by the time it make significant presence you are already winning. The 7 mana 2/15 provoke isn't that great either,

Use fortitude to bait or when your minion's active. Using them because you just want to buff your minion is just dumb and would lead to quick removal and wasted your fortitude.
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>>121025274
what's ribbon?
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>>121025456
Banners that get displayed under your name

Awarded for every 100 wins with a faction
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>>121025176
>tfw nobody tipping me 5 golds
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>>121025321
>>121024994
>>121024791
Thanks for the help guys. Like I said no plasma storm yet, and no elders. Threw in both my warbeasts and a few more spells/artifacts. Dropped the armadillos and whistling blade, though I might end up putting some more provoke in there somewhere since at the moment I lack AoE damage to deal with all the abbysian i'm slogging through and provoke helps.
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>>121025958
With 2 Plasma Storm, and perhaps a Kinetic Equilibrium, you shouldn't need Provoke. Although I'd try to get it from Lady Locke, she's still sick for Magmar
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>>121025958
You don't need provoke or get the armadillo instead and buff it since it will get dispel anyway.

Diretide frenzy is your key to aoe. Remove the angel minion thingy, get the 1 mana flying unit. It's decent on magmar if you buff it when it's active. Otherwise craft plasma storm, it's cheap.
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spells that need to cost more:

grasp of agony
soulshatter pact
tempest
bonechill barrier
all magmar spells
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>>121026401
>grasp of agony
>bonechill barrier

>I want to stack my minions in one place and I'm sick of losing because I do it!
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I like 0.49.0 nerfs were just quick fixes since open beta on started a week prior so they wanted some stability for new players before the big changes roll in this month.

Magmar removal, sarlacs, and portal guardians beware/prepare for full refund dust
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>>121002306
Its exactly because people arent exposed to Vanar, or at least high level Vanar play. People understand the threat of fenrirs or infiltrate/avalanche, but im sure most havent seen a treebro or Aspect get dropped for a win
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>>121026827
What happens if we dusted something at the normal rate, and it goes full refund later?
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>>121026958
Vanar really need a card that can allow them to somehow activate Infiltrate on either side. A 1 turn flip for example. I think that'd almost put them on par with other factions
>>121027045
You're fucked. That's just the price of impatience
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Is 14 units/22 spells a bad ratio?
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New player here, trying to settle on a faction. So far the only games I've played have been with abyssian, and I do like the idea of summoning loads of shit and getting bonuses from deaths. However, I also liked playing blue in MTG, and Vanar seems the most similar to that. Are there any fatal flaws with Vanar I should be aware of? Are they generally considered underpowered/balanced/OP?
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>>121027069
You're right about Vanar, with the other factions experienced players have to preempt tide turning or winning cards and combos. Against a vanar, its just the really basic "hit the face until shes dead and dont get hit in the face" because they dont have any distinctly notable threats.

When a vanar beats me, they couldve beaten me fighting as hard with a different faction; theres no distinct vanar style of victory, the faction dynamic seems torn between walls and infiltrate and vespyrs with none of the concepts really working well in a satisfying way
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>>121027345
The concept was probably 'give them walls so that they can lock the enemy on their side and gangrape them with infiltrate value', with vespyr synergy looking like an afterthought
It doesn't really work out like that in practice though
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>>121027318
As a Songhai? A little
>>121027345
They're just all over the place. They should just replace the Vespyr keyword with Vanar, it'd make them way better. You'd be forced to utilize more Vanar creatures as opposed to just having the 5-6 actually good cards of the faction
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>>121027318
Depends
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>>121027318
Depends what you play, but for everybody other than burn decks thats not gud

>>121027320
If you're thinking blue control, magmar is probably the closest. People will say vanar sucks but they arent that bad, just in a weird hybrid spot right now, and their playstyle is pretty aggro/midrange
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>>121027476
>>121027520
>>121027529
A-abyssian
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>>121027320
Vanar are widely considered the weakest faction at high level (they have good budget decks though)

However, the game is in early stages and the balance is sure to change soon
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>>121027552
Good lord anon
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>>121027448
That sounds like a cool idea, disappointing in practice though. Would reducing the cost of their wall spells improve them too much?

>>121027476
If all their creatures used a tribal mechanic, they're gonna have to nerf the collective stats of the bunch, especially those sticky fenrirs
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>>121027552
Oh, well in that case, three of your spells are actually creatures, however, your ratio is STILL terrible even with that consideration.
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>>121027681
Yeah, I try to limit spells to 2 per kind except for the swarm. I guess it's still too much.
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>>121027661
That they would. I was thinking they could just revamp the entire faction and make it have a special tribal keyword. For instance, the Fenrir's deathwish could only trigger on a turn in which the owner has cast a Vanar spell or summoned a Vanar minion for instance. It'd be a faction focused more on fierce aggression and keeping the opponent locked down
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>>121027552
A really really fast abyssian burn deck could potentially roll with that ratio if the 14 creatures you got are rush and aoe board clear. I dont think they are, so you should change it.

You can test how often your deck produces shitty hands by playing sandbox games against your other decks/ starter decks. Bad draws are the metastatic leukemia of this game that will allow the opponents cancer to flood your body
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Is it just me or do a lot of the challenge hints give an incorrect tip? I don't know if it's just to fuck with me or if i'm actually missing solutions
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>>121027783
Hmmm so like songhai but with creature synergy instead of spells. Seems like a good way to make vanar special, where a strong vanar player would be dropping 2-4 faction creatures a turn to boost the ones on the board with a significant tempo advantage over other factions
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>>121027923
Yeah, some of the latter challenges fuck with you
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>>121027923
The last few ones straight up lie to you
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>>121027824
I've actually been getting pretty shitty hands, even after replacing everything, both in regular ladder matchs and when playing with a friend. Either I get incredibly costly shit like shadow novas and reavers or buffing spells for minions I don't have
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>>121027969
It's merely a thought of course. The problem with infiltrate is that minions with it have to be stronger than their cost while it's up, but slightly weaker without Infiltrate active, and balancing that is pretty much impossible. It's also a bit silly that there's almost as little Vespyr synergy as there is Arcanyst synergy
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>>121027069
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>>121028519
>Wasting 5 mana on literally nothing
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>>121028816
>
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>>121028519
It should probably be either 3 or 4 mana, and allow you to draw a card
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>>121029379
No, it's too cheap if anything
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>>121029397
>>121028842
If you think that card is good, you don't understand what makes cards good.

Even with the combo of that -> Spirit of the Wild you still need to already have an advantageous board to actually win then and there for your 9 mana.

And outside of a combo, it's basically just a waste of a play.
>>
>lose
>lose
>lose
>lose
>lose
>lose
when will this game be fun
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>>121030796
git gud
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>>121030796
When you stop being shit and start winning.
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>>121030821
>git gud at rng
lel (loving every laugh)
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>>121028147
though the spot Vanar is now balance-wise, I don't think it'd do too much harm to buff up the infiltration bonuses a little to make it a genuine threat. With the 2 infiltrate minions that actually are played often, Snowchaser and Crystal Cloaker, they're either annoying little value plinks (or Glacial fuel), or just brought to same level as more consistent cards from other factions.

Frosthorn Rhyno is the only minion to become a genuine threat while infiltrated, and outside it, it's a slightly stronger Thorn Needler.

Wolfraven desperately needs something else with his +3 attack, and I don't think stacking up attack further would help it.
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>>121030821
>>121030836
>how cant you win on lottery? lol git gut noob :D
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>>121030890
What if Wolfraven had Frenzy while infiltrated?
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>>121030924
>Implying you can't get good at winning lotteries
lol
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>>121030924
>lottery
>deck you construct yourself
>can replace one card or more per turn if you have an aethermaster
>you decide actions you take every turn yourself
Fuck off back to hearthstone or whereever the fuck you came from, shitter.
>>
>Have Ultimate Aggressor quest
>opponent concedes half way through the match so I don't get it
>three games in a row

I thought this quest was a free 30 gold.

>>121030863
You draw 2 cards a turn from a 40 card deck,you should be fairly consistent.
Either l2replace or pack some card draw effects.
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how can I improve this deck

I don't have any more dusts at the moment
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>>121030863
To be fair, if you were to git gud, you'd know how to deal with every situation with whatever you have in your hand.
Or cry because all you draw are spells.
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>>121031694
dust all of it and play a different faction
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>>121031736
>le every faction I don't play is cancer xd
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>>121031782
no, just magmar

magmar is cancer
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>>121031837
>no, just [the faction I don't like]
>[the faction I don't like] is cancer
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>>121031880
He's right. The only faction right now that's really way too strong is Magmar.
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>>121031880
no, really though

magmar is cancer
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>>121031971
>>121031997
no, this general is cancer
>le no discussion for you xd because you le play a le faction xd i dont le like xdd
now that's hella epik tbqh (to be quite honest)
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>>121032057
fuck off fagmar
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>>121032057
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>>121030930
Interesting idea. Balancing around just how many attack buffs Vanar has, and that it can't be better than Putrid Dreadflayer while un-infiltrated, I think I'd make it this.

2/3, Infiltrate: Gains Frenzy (and maybe +1 attack, who knows)

A potentially fantastic Mark of Solitude target.
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>>121032179
fuck off [that other faction I don't like and you play] ;^^)))
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>>121032301
>actually playing fagmar

wow
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>>121032261
I think it's funny that the best things to slap Mark of Solitude on are Neutral minions, like Vale Hunter.
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>>121032398
>actually playing [any other faction]

wow XD
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>>121032586
I do not know whether to consider it funny or sad.

But it is the truth either way.
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>>121032836
>>121032586

Well I can be useful on your opponent's minions too

>Lyonar airdrops the 3/10 right next to me
>He's obviously holding Divine Bond
>Mark of Solitude because it's my only removal
>He Divine Bonds it next turn anyway but it can't do jack shit.

That was a fun match.
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Where's the goddamn r34?!
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>Stuck at rank 15
holy shit. It's getting harder to rank now.
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>>121035126
Yeah, I noticed a difficulty spike at 15 too. Then another one at 7, and a wall at 3.
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>>121035076
Not enough furries in the game to attract artists
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>>121035297
>>121035126
Not everyone has gotten back to their last season's ranking yet, I find silver to be a rollercoaster, one match I'm facing a newbie with a sub-optimal deck and the other it's a guy with 300 wins on his main.
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>>121035407
>met vet with full legendaries
>2nd move 1st turn portal guardian
>at 9 mana he used that turn refresh TWICE
>matched with songhai that rape me at 6 mana with backstab deck
>met a newbie that spam golems
I guess everyone is still struggling to get to gold back.
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>>121035551
Not me, I'm grinding the rest of my starter decks to 11 while there's nothing to lose
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Anyone else getting the "10 gold daily bonus for winning 2 games" after EVERY 2 wins?
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>vs Shitruvian
>Got a shitload of wraithlings on the board
>None of them in position to get to the general
>He got a buffed scarab, primed to end me in his next turn
>Think he's won, spam the laugh emoji
>Shit, I'm about to lose the game
>Replace Shadow Watcher card in hand
>Get Shadowdancer
>mfw
>Drop her, send my minion off to suicide
>He concede before the finishing blow lands
>mfw


TRY TO SHITTALK ME BOI?
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>>121036548
You're supposed to, for the first 14 wins.
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>>121036739
Fuck off abysshitter
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>be abyssian
>matched against another abyssian
>more or less the same deck
>silence her shadow dancer and spawn mine
>he spam 2 moon priestess with darkfire sacrifice
>tfw i had breath of the unborn
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>>121036772
First 14 wins ever, or first 14 per day?
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>>121036839
14 per day. After that you get 5 gold per 2 wins.
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>>121036883
fuck, even magic duels was giving more. At least duelyst works
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>>121036939
at least you won't be capped at 100 golds per day like hearthshit.
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>>121036776
Don't spam the emojis next time. It only made my win sweeter.
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r8 my squad m8s

most of the neutrals are filler for cards I need to get.
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>>121037645
fagmar/10
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>>121031362
being sent back to silver i had to swap that fucker out for a faction quest, just too hard to get solid trades with creatures and a game that goes all the way
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>>121037645
Why Pandora?
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>>121037982
Because its 7 mana like Slither Elder and it's a really fun card

I'll probably replace it with another Elder as soon as I get my hands on a full set of 3
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Anyone else intentionally lose until they reverted to rank 20, so you could try for the longest winstreak possible?
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>>121038104
y-yeah
i-intentionally
h-haha
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>>121038104
>>121038452
As a silver shitter with shit tier decks, I refuse to play this game right now. Last time I played I fought a vanar who dropped 3 sarlacs in 2 turns. Fun.
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>>121040201
Why would a Vanar use Sarlac?
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>>121040338
Razorback, Mark of Solitude, Voice of the Wind

you ever played vanar before in your life?
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>>121040529
Snow Chaser seems like it would be better for that, though.
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>>121040631
Yeah, that's why you use both of them....
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ded game
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>>121042534
no its not i played against 2 different people today instead of the usual 1
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>>121042534
I keep hearing this. Is it trully dead, /vg/?
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>>121042751
Just few peak hours. For my time zone I find 6pm-10pm rather active, but before and after I'll keep playing the same four people.

What sucks is I work 2pm-10pm on weekdays, so I miss a lot of the peak play times.
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>>121042751
I was just bumping the thread desu
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>>121042751
im kinda bored of it already desu
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>>121042751
They need to release content faster and do more marketing desu
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>>121031971
Yeah because magmar's stars fury + third wish combo gets you from 25 to 0 in turn 7.
Oh wait
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>>121044163
Magmar also get combos that can kill you in one turn. Not even mentioning Songay
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>>121045984
Yeah, an 8 mana 4 DIFFERENT cards combo. that deals 4 damage to the general.
Meanwhile Vet has a 7 mana 2 card combo that only requires a missplaced minion. That doesn't even compare.
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>>121042751
should've released a physical copy desu senpai
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>>121046604
Well actually Third Wish requires three minions to activate., so one misplaced minion on your side won't be able to use Third Wish.

Not to mention Vet is way behind in term of removal or instant damages spells compared to Magmar.
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>>121036739
Holy shit this literally just happen to me again.

>vs Magmar
>He's pretty badly injured but the board is in his favor
>Shitloads of giga nigga surrounding my lovely Lilithe
>He could easily won by his next turn
>Shit hand, replace my bloodmon priestess. She won't do any good to me now
>Get Shadow Nova
>Win me the game right there
>mfw

Fuck that is fun, too bad with that fight I completed my 4 games a Abyssian daily quest
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How to level up Vanar without killing oneself?
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That feel when your deck is just not right
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>>121049598
This starting deck is super fun.
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>>121049762
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>>121042751
I love this game, but it's obviously really dead. These threads are slow as shit, and from all the shitposting about every faction you can tell it's a frustrating game for noobs. They get wrecked by some guy with legendaries in a game, and complain about balance before dropping the game.
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>>121049762
Been playing Vanar since I started a couple weeks ago, once you get more stuff for it they become pretty fun. The issue is against the top tier stuff (and specifically more developed Magmar decks) you tend to need perfect draws/plays to keep up since you stuff starts weak or is situationally good.

Though Aspect spells (Fox, Drake, and Mountain) tend to catch people off guard in hilarious ways.
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Just got Sarlac from a legendary questor achievement. Is one enough to make a difference in Abyssian deathwatch deck?
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>Play against Healynoar
>The guy take the maximum amount of time to play is turn

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUCK YOU.

They should really shorten the time a player is allowed to make his moves if that player go into red bar territory too many times. Like everytime that happen you get 8 seconds left for a minimum of 15 seconds.
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What kind of decks benefit from Emerald Rejuvenators?
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>>121053127
People who take the maximum time to summon one fucking minion and move two spaces forward should be fucking exterminated.
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>>121053127
Abyssians can't move all their minions in that time even if they start acting from the start of the turn.
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Holy shit Horn of the Forsaken shits all over Fagzilla's rebirth minions and Vanar's wolf guys.
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>>121053127
>>121053543
>That feeling when my game lags a lot so I often almost run out of time on my turns
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>be fagmar vs ashitsyan
>faggot keeps pumping minions and killing the stuff i place
>10HP vs 19HP completely surrounded, this is probably my last turn
>play my nigga right here
>opponent istant concedes
I feel so dirty yet so good
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>mfw defeating a ribboned Vanar with an underleveled Vanar starting deck
>>121054135
if he had a shadow dancer out that card would have fucked you in the ass
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I'm going to main Vanar and you can't stop me.
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>>121055012
I already mana burned the fucker, i'm not that dumb
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Is it really possible to OTK with Storm Kage + illusionist + manaforger?

Just unpacked him
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>>121057203
>requires 7+ mana, and at least 2 weak minions present on the board, with one of them being put in a precarious forward position so illusions will be in position to attack
>requires 1 more turn for illusions to act
So beyond bronze league, this "combo" will never happen. Storm kage looks awesome, but at best it'll just be a trophy in your collection. It's shit.
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>>121058368
I don't think you understand the combo. You trigger kage Lightning on the illusions with either the artifact that does 1 damage/four winds magi for an infinite damage combo. It doesn't seem too far off. How does the illusions attacking the enemy general make any sense?
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>>121044163
I keep hearing this but by my math, tw + stars fury is only 15 unless your positioning is truly abysmal - where does the other 10 damage come from?
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Anyone can help me out?
I was trying this (thinking of increasing sunrisers and lowering suntides)

Any tips?
Also anyone has a good aggro deck?
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>>121058848
That's how it would work if Kage Lightning was like it used to be once. You're not first to think of that combo.

Now it's *enemy minions only*, BUT, it should work when killing enemy Sarlaac over and over.
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HELLO GOOD ANONS TODAY IS MONDAY AND YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE IT IS?
MOTHERFUCKIN TOURNAMENT DAY
NOW THE REGINING CHAMP DUKE OF DUNKS SHALL BE FIGHTING TO KEEP HIS HONOR AND HIS TITLE OF KING OF DUG BUT MAYBE EVEN YOU COULD THROW HIM OFF HIS THRONE AND BECOME SORTA GREAT
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>>121060719
Now I hear you cry out
"but fuckhead how the hell am I gonna join your stupid fucking tourny"
Good news! I have a site spefically set up for this Monday at: challonge.com/dygg
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>>121060719
You liar you said it was tuesday
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>>121061440
Neeeext week's tournament
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>>121060431
Did you add those circles of life just now? Didn't see them when I played against you.
Anyway, I've seen a whole lot of aggro decks use Azurite Lions and buff them to get value from celerity, but I pretty much know nothing about Lyonar so take this with a grain of salt.
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>>121061617
Yeah leon is great
Are you sure you're talking about me?
I always had them on
I don't want them though but they are useful, it's hard

>>121060719
Wasn't it moved to Tuesday because someone asked due to some long trip bullshit?

Anyway I got a stream ready for the match just for fun gotta disable mic though
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>>121062327
Yes I am sure.Void Pulse
Didn't hear anything about it being moved to tuesday.
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>>121062685
eat shit bro
Well doesn't matter I'm not ready today and I wouldn't be tomorrow
;_;
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>>121062849
If you're going for an aggro deck it looks to me like you run too few minions and too many spells. With this ratio I think you'll end up with a lot of dead hands.
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>>121063216
Sorry didn't specify, that one is based on an economy deck, just wanted to try it out, it's not bad but since I changed it it doesn't feel right
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>>121060971
Stop typing like a 12-year-old
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>>121064490
Sorry senpai
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Thinking of dusting all the cards of factions except two (for a little variety). Which neutrals that Abyshitters use would work best with another faction?
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>>121061519
Then it might as well be thursday since I'll be in china anyways!
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>>121065781
Sarlac.
That's all I know about neutrals and abyssians sine I don't play that crap. I guess that the others are typical stuff like the lil healer and that nigga with the silence that is a total bro.
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>decide I want to give abyssian a try
>remember that I don't even have 1 sarlac
>stick to my magmar deck
>rank up 2-3 ranks
>get bored
>log out again
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>>121065781
>>121066232
jax is pretty damn good as well with their +2/+0 buff for all creatures
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>>121066963
Jax is just slow as shit
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>>121052250
No, but you can get a second one and get 3 consuming rebirths.
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what are the rules for the tourney today
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>>121067446
I'm afraid of dispels, do I combo him up to outnumber the possible number of opponent's removal cards?
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>>121067271
it's still a good card for lategame, better than a lot of epics

If you have it might as well bring it is what I'm saying.
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>>121067524
Matches are Bo3. Take a picture of the start of the first match, and results of all three. Any deck can be used. That's all I think.
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>>121067826
just 1 deck or any deck any game?
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Pulled Dark nemesis out of a pack. Is he any good? or should I just disenchant?

I play vanar
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>>121068632
I think it's just one deck, but you'll need to ask faltray to make sure.
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I'm ready, is Hytone online?
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>>121069054
Chill, it starts in 15 minutes.Right?
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>>121069470
No idea mane
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when do i get to lose?
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Let's just wait on faltray to say something, the timer on the site says it's in 10 minutes.
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Are there any plans to add card trading? Or is it just gonna copy hearthstones system.
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>>121068652
The usefulness of legos is generally determined by whether or not their effect activates when they drop onto the table. Nemesis suffers in that aspect, but if it survives more than 1 turn, it's a pretty great card overall. I'd say Zurael is a better bet for Vanar though
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>>121070531
Card games don't have trading, because being digital they make money on rng packs
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Regarding the tournament, I guess we should just start now. Add people you're against, if they're not online in 15 min just mark yourself a win and move on.
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>>121071249
yeah let's go, i have a 50 word essay due tomorrow
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>>121071249
Holy fuck I'm so sorry I just got back from dealing with comcast fucking me in the ass
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>>121071350
50 words is like a few sentences senpai.
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>>121071249
What tournament? I'm interested in joining.
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>>121071948
http://challonge.com/dygg
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Maxorn? hello? where u at brah

i added you like 10 minutes ago
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>>121071948
Challonge.com/dygg
>>121069054
If I can't get back online in ten minutes Max your in charge ok?
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>>121072294
Why don't you just keep this up the whole week and promote it throughout so we'll get more entrants instead of giving people an hour window to enter
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>>121072471
Uh....holy shit that's a really good idea!
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>>121072294
Ayy whaat
What should I do
>>121072471
that's not a bad idea

By the way proof
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my opponent aint here and i cant report win
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>>121072172
alright marking myself as a win since no show, i'm the best
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>>121072817
Please win so I can beat you up like I did earlier today.
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>>121072817
1 - 0 ;_;
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>>121066812
>main Abyssian
>run into other Abyssians that clearly don't understand how either deathwatch or Blade Dancer works
>free wins
I don't how there are people that haven't figured this shit out.
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>>121072817
Make everyone hype but it cut off after we get past the first spilt
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Probably need to wait on failtray to enable win reports.
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Is Faltray here? He's my first match.
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>>121074145
He just said he has some problems with his internet, which is a bit of an issue since he's the creator of the tournament.
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>>121074280
Forgive me, I just got here and am playing catch up. Thanks for letting me know, though.
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>>121073081
Nope you against vanarboi
I got raped.
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>>121073121
2 - 0, good games
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>>121075035

Y-Yeah It was fun
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OKAY! i may have completely fucked over everything
so new bracket because some people didn't sign in and no new rules also i have a computer now which is nice
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>>121075035
Why does she have robot arms like Vetruvians?
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>>121075858
wake me up when something is happening
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>>121076007
You're playing against Hytone.
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>>121075967
Read her backstory: she was trapped under an avalanche and had to tear her arms off to get free
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so... according to current challonge (which completely fucked us over but thats O K) we have...
HYOTOLE V. ZENYAA
AND
CLAC V. PROF
LOOKS LIKE CLASS IN SESSION BOIS
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>Having to deal with a Lyonar who draws all 3 of his Arclyte Regalias by the time he has 8 mana to spend
Jesus Christ
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>>121076181
Gotcha. Lemme hop on. Calcul0n, is that your IGN?
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>>121076181
Dude I was thinking, what about using discord during the tournaments? since challonge doesn't have a chat?
Since it doesn't need to be installed and web version is good, we can just use that right?
In case I already settled up a server:
https://discord.gg/0cOjqVd0BWAqmWU6
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Holy shit there are brainwashed people that can poison any work of fiction by their madness.
http://forums.duelyst.com/t/general-diversity/8991/16
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>>121077292
but abyssian is black, vanar is blue-ish, songhai is red, magmar is green and vetruvian is artifact
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>>121077292
Are you not PC bro?
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>>121076832
Calc, are you here? If your name matches the challonge name I sent you a friend request so we can get started.
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>>121077292
Who gives a damn, they're complaining for the sake of complaining. And for the record, both Lysian Brawler, Sunriser and Grandmaster Z'ir are darkskinned, but these clowns are sure to ignore that
>>
Just got into this game, what type of deck should I aim to build first? I assume aggro because aggro is cheaper in pretty much any card game.
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>>121077292
Are you going out of your way searching back for june forum posts for stuff that makes you angry? Just ignore them.
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>>121078409
And just as i say that some faggot bumps the thread, restarting a possible shitstorm.
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>>121078409
I was looking for Generals' backstory >>121076120
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>>121078409
>>121078602
If you let that slide the devs would turn the cast of characters into a s j w pandering mess.
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>>121078043
actually that isnt true, most aggro decks require 2+ legendaries in this game

one of the cheapest decks is actually Magmar Control, all you need is 1 legendary and 1 epic
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>>121078948
Is getting legendaries as hard as in Hearthstone?
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>>121079039
No, not really
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>>121079039
I was lucky enough to have a bunch of them pop up in the free orbs that you get from leveling up. Also, by completing a certain amount of daily quests I got a very useful legendary.
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>>121078948
Don't you need the eggs and eldar silithar for that?
IMO the cheapest one is lantern foxes backstabing songgay. You mostly use your factin troops, it might cost around 2000 dust.
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>>121078935
Yes, we would surely regret not letting that months old forgotten forum post just rot in the bottom of the archives.
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>>121079235
>>121079212

How exactly does the currency system work? I can't find a list of quests anywhere.
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>>121079349
I just want a game where faggots don't have the last word or any meaningful impact whatsoever.
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>>121079428
You get gold by doing quests and winning. 100 gold gets you a pack of 5 cards. You earn 15 gold for every 2 wins.
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>>121079481
Okay, keep saving videogames bro. I'll be rooting for you.
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>>121079428
100 gold for an orb. Look up the solutions to the Proving Grounds challenges for quick gold. FWotD and every 2 wins after that also grant gold. There are hidden quests like leveling each faction to 11 with a free orb each time you do it.
Quests are located in the upper right of your screen.
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>>121079604
I'm gonna become a character artist for the videogame industry and personally shit on whiners.
>>
hey i'm conceding third place, this is just taking way too long
>>
for those unable to relog to discord, I have no idea.
https://discord.gg/0cOjqVd0BWAqmWU6
This should auto invite you in
the client is better and takes seconds to install
>>
Is there a list of all the achievements and rewards (like disenchant your first card, play with a buddy etc)?
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>>121080194
There is, iirc. Just search for it.
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>>121080037
Ok nevermind, Discord web seems to be dead.
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>>121080392
only in /dyg/
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>>121077983
i decided a nap was better than duelyst
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>>121080923
Well for now i shall take your place!
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>>121080923
guess who won!
me of course
YOU CLAC NOW FIGHT THE GRANDMASTER OF ANGER
THE DUNKER OF SCRUBS
OUR VERY OWN ABYSSIAN
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANCER!
>>
I asked earlier but how exactly does the tw/sf combo hit for 25 to 0? It seems like it's 15 generally, maybe 17 or 19 if their positioning is truly god awful
>>
What's the equivalent of big green stompy in this game and is it viable?
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>>121082554
You want Magmar. They're literally big and green. One of their creatures is a 1/7 that gains +4/+4 every time your turn starts, for example.

And they're pretty viable.
>>
Is there a link to some budget decks? I'm looking for a Vanar one but the ones I find on google are all out of date (they say fenrir costs 5, etc.)
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>>121083423
Sweet, I already unpacked a Kollosus. Is there any ramp?
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>>121084154
They have a spell that reduces the cost of the next minion they play that turn by 2
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SOOOOO
THE LOSERS BRACKET BEGINS NOW!
ITS ME V. ZENYAA
LETS GET HYPE
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>>121084373
Time to level up and slowly learn this game. Thanks for the help.
>>
Discord is back
Anyway pc died and shit, but i'll get going now, have fun /dyg/
Godspeed guys.
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>>121084614
fine i'll play
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>>121084936
GG on the win!
GHYOTLE AND CANCER LETS DO THIS
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>>121086082
It's already done. They are all dead, Jim.
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well that was fun minus the part where 80% of the entrants never showed up
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Noob here, how good is Swords to Plowshares?
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>>121086958
Very good. Basically an autoinclude in every deck. You can even use it on your own guys to heal in a pinch.
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I keep getting Aymara Healers. Are they actually useful for can I dust it to Sarlac for my Abyssian? :3
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>>121088337
They are very good.
>>
Maybe one day there'll be a tournament I can participate in
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>>121089194
We really need a better time for this. This week's was so damn small.
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>>121089560
Well that's also because there's only like an hour-long window to register before playing. Not very well-planned.
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>>121089194
>>121089560
>>121090504
Let's make it twice a week or something like Friday and Monday. And also of we are mostly EU or NA
>>
how do i play magmar?
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>>121091268
You put down your Silithar Elder
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>>121093175
Don't have one.
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>>121093246
Then don't expect to play Magmar at its fullest. Silithar Elder is probably the single best creature in the entire game.
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>>121093320
>Then don't expect to play Magmar at its fullest.
I wasn't, I just wanna get it to lvl 10 and maybe have some fun for now.
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>>121093380
Oh, then you can mess around with Flash Reincarnation and Diretide Frenzy to get creatures out quick and have them tear shit up.
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Why does fireblaze obelisk have 6 hp?
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>>121094083
All obelisks do
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/dyg/ help me
last season i got to rank 10 but now i can get past 20
ive scrapped all my decks
i need a solid climbing deck
budget is not a problem
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>>121094083
Because a silence or a repulsor and it becomes literally useless? Because you can get easy frenzies off of it? Because it's generally not a good creature because of all the weaknesses it carries so why make it have a smaller hp pool?
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anyone got a solid budget Magmar deck?
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Hey, pretty new here, but I got two Moebiuses in packs. I never see anyone here talk about them much, so are they safe to disenchant? Or are they good in some decks?
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>>121094924
You can safely DE. They're not good for too much and 700 dust is a lot.
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>>121095689
200 dust
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>>121097009
oh right they're not legendary
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>>121078935
>s j w
do people really still have that stupid extension installed?
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Finally got an elder but no clue how to play Magmar and I'm still lvl 7. Any tips?
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>>121099606
This is what I'm using.
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is vanar still shit
I'm having a lot of fun with it
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>>121093175
>>121093246
>>121093320
Regular Magmar player here, I've got two Elders but I mulligan them more often than not, and when I do get to play them they're answered pretty fast. Is there something I'm missing?
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>>121100647
Hello are you me
synja is just better
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>>121100196 here

>>121100647
>>121100784
How do you guys deal with songais and lyonars rushing you?
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>>121100647
>>121100784
I've been playing magmar since alpha and I still think Elder is a really good card, a very late game card.
As the other anon said, Synja is a much better 7 drop to deal with other big minions and put pressure on the opponent.
On the other hand Elder is a much better minion when you can drop it on turn 5 with flash reincarnation and you still have other cards in your hand that benefit from the opponent dealing with said Elder using his dispels/removals, etc.
I'm currently running both on my control magmar deck (x3 Elders and x2 Synjas) and they're doing pretty great. Hope that helps.
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Is there any numbers regarding the player base? I'm having a lot of fun with this game and hope it grows alot. If something like Hearthstone can succeed when the game is pretty shit. This should be doing gangbusters

They really need to pick up on their marketing
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>>121101596
I think they're having some troubles keeping the players because the game is not really beginner friendly.
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>>121101741
you mean generally people are too fuckin dumb to understand it in 5 minutes
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>>121101834
Yes, that's exactly what I mean.
And to add salt to the wound, every little defeat the general playerbase encounters they instantly start screaming "[the faction I don't play] is OP!".
It's really stupid, I agree there's still some polishing to do in the general balance of the game, but you can pretty easily climb trough ranks by learning to adapt and not being a fucking retard.
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>>121101167
You're running 3 Flash Reincarnations? I've been getting by with two, and I find it clogs in my hand a bit as well.
>>121100920
What I've been trying is two Alcuin Loremasters for Earth Sphere (and other spells as necessary for huge plays) and generally keeping Vaath's back from being exposed to any spellslinging shit.

For Lyonar, I either solve the 3/10 in time or die to a 23/10 or Holy Immolation. It's a bad time, but still better than facing against a well-walleted Songhai.
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Fenrir Warmaster makes me cry.
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>>121102378
Yeah, I play 3 Flash Reincarnation, my deck is pretty late game oriented and bringing out a silithar Veteran on turn 1 forces my opponent to start pumping dispels and removals early.
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>>121100216
i mean if you have legendaries out the ass theyre probably ok :^)
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Why do 90% of all fuckers play Songay?
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People complain about Songhai and Abyssian all the time but jesus christ nothing is worse than fighting Lyonar. Fuck that faction so much
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>>121090768
I can do that!
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>>121106197
Fuck Lyonar and Magmar seriously, those 2 factions are complete and utter bullshit.

Mana burn and Martyrdom, 2 mana removal.
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Leveling classes is so fucking retarded. I get paired against people with 100+ games on a faction when I'm just lvl 1 with another.
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>>121107263
At least mana burn only deals 2 damage along with dispel.
Meanwhile Martydom straight up kills shit. Because getting some health back totally justifies 2 mana hard removal. not to mention other bullshit like tempest and holy immolation and the ungodly amount of healing combined with high health provoke minions making matches take fucking forever. The game would be better without Lyonar
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>>121107540

Okay so how do I answer Mechazor as Vent? Running into guys who can get it out third turn and my dispel not being useful on it is starting to get on my nerves.
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>>121107540
It turns out Swords to Plowshares is a good card.
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>dedgame
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Behold! A bump!
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Give me a fun magmar deck
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>Get off work
>Hop on to do some dailies
>Each game is against Magmar players loaded with legendaries

Man, starting to dislike my work schedule.
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>>121113697
>>121111945
guys, it's /vg/. You don't have to bump so often.
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>implying you know how to play this game
>implying you're not a retard
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I'm just a few hours in and I already got some legendaries. This sure feels better than HS.

Are any of these worth keeping, or should I just scrap them?
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>>121115384

First and the last are really good, nether summoning is barely worth shit.
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I can't fucking believe I won this game. I didn't have a single play for two whole turns.
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>>121115881
>actually running 3 Aymaras
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>>121102582
good
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>>121116136
>not running 3 aymaras
I've had too many people just concede on the third one hitting the board to count.
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>>121117248
Healyonars pls go
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I love winning obnoxiously drawn-out games
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>>121119465
Playing Vanar it's either get all the best shit right out without interruption or just drag the game out until you can't. Actually had a couple people concede from my stalling.
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>>121119604
It's happened to me too. Sometimes I'll have them surrounded and at low health, but with nothing in my hand that can get the kill, and they can easily turn it around if they get good draws.

But they concede anyway.
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was looking through the kickstarter campaign and it mentions 6 factions at launch. Are they going to be adding a new one or are is that just including neutrals?
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>>121121662
Uh, there's already six, seven if you count neutral as a faction.
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>>121121662
There's already six factions in the game, anon.
1.) Lyonar
2.) Sonhai
3.) Vetruvian
4.) Abyssian
5.) Magmar
6.) Vanar
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>>121121662
>
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>>121122165
>>121122174
holy fuck, i'm retarded
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>>121122463
Don't worry, most people forget about Vanar.
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Have you done your civic duty and shit on a mechaz0r player today, /dyg/?
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>>121123413
How's Pandora working for you, bro?
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why is shadow nova allowed?
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>>121125417
Aw did the little baby get outplayed?
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>>121124459
I really like her. Don't think I'd run more than 1. You have to be really smart about when you play her so she's shuffled in a lot but when you find the opportunity she completely takes over. You need a really stally deck though. And if you're up against Magmar you absolutely need some attack buff or you'll cry yourself to sleep over the inevitable plasma storm.

so, super fun and very powerful but also very situational and needs the right deck to fit into.
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>>121125543
Pandora's pretty tight, but damn, Zurael has really pulled my ass out of the fire on multiple occasions
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>>121125693
I might give him a try. I never playtested him since I didn't wanna blow spirit on it but I'm swimming in spirit I have nothing to spend on since the lady locke nerf.

Dunno if I'd be able to play both him and Pandora in the same deck, though. That might end up being a deal breaker because Pandora might as well be my fun-of with how much I love slapping her down on the field. She's just an effective fun-of.
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>>121126062
What deck do you play? There are ton of things to spend spirit on, and Pandora is pretty low on that list. Unless you're just playing "for fuN"
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Where can I read up on typical archtypes or decklists? New to the game (started today) but definitely not new to card games.
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>>121126741
Try this from the official wiki:
http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Guides
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>>121126886
>http://duelyst.gamepedia.com/Guides
Should have looked at the wiki more. Cool, thanks.
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>tfw magmar

Got Chrysalis Burst out of a spirit orb and that shit is insane. They can either scatter and play cleanup or deal with the inevitable craziness that four random silithar units is going to bring.
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How are there people who still don't play around Star's Fury?
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>>121127295
>Tempest
I like the idea of the card and all, but half the time it just gets countered entirely in my experience
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>>121127472
I'm sure there will be plenty of things to counter it in the future but for the slog through the shitter ranks it's fun, definitely gonna try to find a home for it in my deck.
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>>121127295
>>121127472
>>121127637
It's a massive tempo loss most of the time. You pretty much have to play it against an empty board and even then there's plenty of answers from spells and you're still really reliant on RNG even in the best of cases.
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>>121128027
And even then, you still have to wait until the end of the next turn to benefit from whatever hatches. Your opponent can just kill off the stuff that's the most dangerous like an Elucidator or a Spirit Harvester, and leave behind the Kujata and Vindicator. That's how it usually goes for me anyway
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Name any card and I'll complain about how OP it is using selective examples and poor logic
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>>121131281
That Vespyr bear
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>>121131281
Spelljammer
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>>121131281
Wolfraven
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>Playing against magmar
>I go first, got no good minions to play
>He uses flash reincarnation, throws a young silithar at the mana spot and plays le balanced 4 eggs in the battlefield at turn one
>I got nothing, clear two of them and play a healer
>Second turn he throws in a locke
And people wonder why this game is dead.
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>>121131382
Fucking Borean Bear is so god damned OP. Without an attack cap, you could literally summon infinite vespyrs especially since vanar already have snowchasers, buffing it to kill a general immediately. It should be at least 3 or 4 cores.

>>121131513
A 2/3 for 4 is already accepted as broken, thats why they nerfed locke to a 2/2. On top of that, this card will single handedly fuck over combo intensive factions like songhai and abyss, so its presence is an indirect NERF to these factions, which is patently unfair.

>>121131609
Wolfraven should be a 0/4 for 3 since it already has flying. But instead, devs gave it fucking inflitrate, which is broken on flying units since they can be ANYWHERE. Its always a 4/4 flyer for 3 when dropped, and generals will often take 8-32 damage from one trying to leave their side of the field because it has fucking FLYING.
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>>121131797
I've got to try this.
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I just got Sarlac as a quest reward. Does he have any place in a Vanar deck?
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>>121135083
As far as I know he's only useful in Vert and Abysshit decks.
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>>121135083
He's a good target for your various buffs
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>>121131797
the eggs should cost 5 mana
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>>121122587
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There should really be a visual indicator for when something is dispelled
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>>121137158
a pixelated poo icon hovering over the minion
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>>121138223
gg tho ;^)

Anyone has a good aggro lyonar deck?
I don't seem to be able to build one.
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Someone explain to me why Songhai, the burn faction, has to wait until turn 7 to use their 8 damage spell card, but Abyssians can deal 9 damage with their rush creature + buff spell on turn 6?
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>>121138524
One card that deals damage from anywhere versus a 2 card combo at requires you to be closer to the target.
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>>121051049
I'm a silvershitter with <100 wins in my deck of choice, and it feels like I'm constantly bumping against gold and diamond with 100+ wins

that in itself isn't even that big of an issue, but it feels like it's impeding my ladder climb which is frustrating. when I keep plateauing at ~15 because ranks 10+ are pushing me down with decks that are decently above my weight class, it just feels like I'm treading water in the most frustrating way possible.

At the same time, every once in a while I get matched against some poor bronze running a partially-unlocked starter deck and that's just not fair to him either.
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>>121138625


I must've forgotten how Abyssians have terrible board presence.
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>>121115384
Keep the last one, you'll have fun with it. It hurts your opponent fuckloads and demands instant remova, while being tanky enough to make complete removal tricky and has fair damage for trading blows directly with their general late
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>>121138767
And you'd do well to remember that from now on.
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>>121051049
It's not dead but it's really not as popular as you would want, they need more adds or promos
Threads are slow because right now, aside from deck tips and tournaments there isn't much to discuss about, the cards aren't many so the strategies and variants are already there
To be fair the shitposting isn't as cancerous.

>>121138759
There are peaks where you just find all the shitters you want, but yeah vs elite matches are pretty sad.

On a side note, isn't aegis barrier a great spell?
I mean you can just drop an ironcliffe, barrier him and then pact, unless you're against another lyonar it won't get dispelled
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>>121139324
>It won't get dispelled
Have you met this thing? It dispels spaces, not minions, and thus, Aegis is entirely worthless. Lightbender also dispels spaces and so does Mana Burn. Overall, spell 'immunity' is worth jack shit
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>>121139597
Well shit
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>>121139597
Once more, I have fucked up
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>>121139713
It's okay I thought you were talking about it.

I was thinking, isn't paddo + decimate a good match?
A situational one maybe, but I can't get over how good decimate sounds. it seems to be shit though.
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>>121139949
A fun idea, but mana constraints ruin it. You need to either have 2 Manaforgers on the table when you drop him, or you need to copy a Flash Reincarnation from a Magmar with an Alcuin Loremaster or a Mindwarper. Neither of which are particularly likely
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>>121140521
True, man we really need more cards. I'm tired of the same decks
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Did they fuck with the legendary drop rates? In my first 5 orbs I unpacked 3 legendaries. In my next 15 or so orbs, I unpacked 3 legendaries.
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Are 2 Vale Hunters and 2 Marks of Solitude enough for the Vanar cheese deck?

Or should I go for 3?
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>>121140728
no, that is how F2P games work: your early orbs are given an artificially high chance to drop a lego to build your attachement to/investment in the game.
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>>121140887
>Tips tinfoil hat.
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>>121141947
have you never seen or heard of gambling before
this is literally a well known and widely applied thing. It's the same reason there's a 1-off cheevo for finishing quests that awards you 1 lego.

is this your first time playing a game with random drops or are you just very young and can't wrap your head around the idea that game designers literally dedicate time and money to figuring out ideal drop rates and chances for player retention?
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>>121140887
Actually no, not even korean card games do that unless it's an event.
Rates are public due to laws, if they aren't just yet it's because the game isn't popular enough. I don't know if duelyst has them public.
And you have to consider how low the number of current cards is. Getting legendaries isn't hard.


This killed my pc.
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>>121142270
If it is as you say, and devs are actively fucking with drop ratios from orbs bought/earned by players it would be quickly noticed, especially by people who bought 40+ orbs at once.

It's first time i've heard anyone in here mentioning anything like this and also my own orbs seem to be just fine.
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>>121142617
>Rates are public due to laws
>or maybe they aren't but then it's because the game isn't popular
I'm not american so I have no firsthand knowledge of these "laws" you're talking about, but you are literally just making shit up aren't you

be real with me
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>>121142789
What I meant is maybe this game has yet to make them public.
Mobile games for example have all the card rates public, because they must. UR cards are around 0,1% in most games, considering how often people draws legendaries here that's not obviously the case.
Scripting a "give legos for the first 15 orbs" is not convenient nor legal.

I am in fact "real" with you, and that reality is that you're being too paranoid.
No such thing has been noticed by anyone.
An anon bought 400$ worth of orbs, and he didn't notice the trickery you speak of.
I too have opened some paid orbs and the rates are just the same.
Just because you've been unlucky doesn't mean that it's been rigged, specially when such a dumb action could cost a game that just started an open beta so much money.
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>>121143412
I've personally opened around 30 or so orbs, and gotten 8 legos. Out of those 8, I got 4 of them in my most recent 5. I don't think there's any RNG fuckery about, but there is a chance that the game only has such high lego rates because it's a beta, and they might drop it for the actual release
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>>121144101
I think they just want to lure peiople in, out of 40+ orbs I've gotten around 15
I doubt it's as you say because the devs don't plan to wipe it which would make it a bit unfair for new players later on
At best they may get something of a higher tier that can't be crafted with lower rates.
Like how most newer mobages start with SSR as the highest tier and after a couple months they introduce UR tier cards
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>>121144348
I doubt that'll happen. I personally think they might up the cost of legendary crafting though, along with reducing the amount of legendary copies you can have in a deck. That's one of the most common complaints I've heard, and it just straight up makes no sense
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>>121144504
I hope they don't cap the legendaries though.
I don't use them, but I can't see how restricting a card is going to change anything.
Sure 3 sarlacs are annoying but for some builds that's all they have.
It's good that the devs listen to the community but if they keep pandering to every complain they won't have any time to actually improve the game, which at the moment needs cards desperately.
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>>121140745
fuck the vale hunters just run 3 sarlacs instead

you arent poor, are you?
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>>121144730
It just further enforces the P2W aspects of a cardgame like this though. In Hearthstone you at least only need to craft 1 of the lego you need, but in this, you'll do the best with 3, except situational ones like Zurael. The dust gain per orb at least significantly makes up for it
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what's the point at which the game considers a match to have "sufficient gameplay" for rewards?
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>>121144730
I dont think they actually pander to every complaint, or there wouldve been a whole lot more nerfed with 0.49 than just sunny d and locke
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>>121144884
If a business created a f2p card game where their most exclusive income generating commodities confer no advantage, they wont be running the game for long because nobody would pay for it. Its not even like doto or hat fortress because those have a much much larger consumer base that duelyst just doesnt have
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>>121144849
Does Sarlac revive as a 5/5 if you do that?
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>>121145687
No
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>>121145789
Then what's the point?
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I don't want to admit it, but the more I play this game the less fun I have.

I'm a silver rank shitter who never got past that, but lately every game is either an unfair match against a player that simply does not belong in Silver with the amount of legendaries and plays or a one sided stomp against a new player with a very basic deck which ultimately feels unsatisfying.

I just boot up once to do the daily quests by half-assedly playing and summoning shit until I get 4/4 games.
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>>121145964
infinite deatwatch and protection from natural selection and other tons of points..
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>>121145964
I wasnt that dude, but i think he was going for "vale hunters die 3 times in your deck, sarlacs are eternal," missing out the ranged part of vale hunter that warrants buffing it in the first place
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>>121146253
You're simply managing your deck the wrong way, there are many who have economy decks that work just fine against them.
What faction are you even playing with?
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>>121146253
So the game is boring because you're too competitive to play shitters and not competitive enough to try to win?

Take heart anon, in a couple weeks all the tryhards will be in gold+ so you'll get your silver back. Theres gauntlet in the meantime
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>>121146656
>>121146253
I feel this same way: either mid-silver is being matched poorly against out-of-its-league decks, or to progress past mid silver I need to sit here and grind out about 6 more legos so I can crack gold

either way, it's torpedoing my enthusiasm for the game.
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>>121147827
the beginning of the season is way harder than the end

I got to Plat easily last season but so far in this season ive only faced Silver players with tier 1 decks, control vetruvian every fucking game.
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man, this game needs a steam release. community is almost dead at this point
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While I can agree than 1 month long seasons and ladder resets are not the best idea I also don't think you need to have complete deck with legendaries to get past silver, there are plenty of decent cheap cards you can fill your deck with.

Of course in theory if you are very good player and happen to be matched with another very good player, then yes you will probably lose if he has better cards but you still should be able to beat someone who's bad because at the end of the day no amount of legendaries will save noob from being a noob.
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>>121148443
>community is almost dead at this point
Probably because it's a shit game senpai
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Is there really no way to keep the game running while I'm in another tab?
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>>121148443
B E T A
E
T
A
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>>121148907
Use the client.

>>121148508
This, I'm doing fine without legendaries.
I get shitfaced by people with ecodecks as much as I get shitfaced by people with legodecks because I'm a scrub

The game could use a steam release but It's too soon. What it needs is to catch a bit more of attention and a bit more of spam.
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I was under the impression that Mechaz0r only gained the abilities of the other Mini-mechs as its abilities.

>accidentally set down soulshatter instead of the Ephem Shroud.
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>>121150720
What do you mean?

It does get Airdrop, Ranged, Frenzy and spell immunity.
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>>121150820
Every time I've seen it summoned, the opponent makes it a point to summon one of each Mini-mech ability.
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>>121148198
For me it's just been optimal Magmar decks again and again. As a guy who enjoys Vanar those plasma storms get pretty annoying.
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So is this game p2w?

Posts like >>121148508 make it sound very similar to Hearthstone, with the 1 month seasons and needing lots of cards for good decks. Is it just as grindy?
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>>121155087
if you want the best deck you will have to grind or pay.

otherwise you can just have fun and play with a somewhat decent deck.
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Legendary drops rates are high (comparatively to Magic and HS) because there are a fuckton of them and you can have THREE of each in your deck as opposed to one. Personally I think it's kind of stupid and defeats the purpose of a "legendary" card.
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>>121156858
It's just a name for the type of rarity like how chevrons have nothing to do with chevrons or epic cards don't tell stories on them.
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>>121157432
Also plenty of legendaries are like what WotC claimed Mythic would be; oddball stuff you can build around or do something different. Sure, Sarlac and such are damn fine legends, but most are something you pull gimmicky decks off with.

Having played this game for a couple weeks and only owned two legends (which I dusted as I don't play their factions), I've done pretty well with just epics and rares which are the greater core of your deck.
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How big is the card pool of this game?
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>>121155087
You don't need to pay to win

You do need to pay (or grind) to be the best
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Seriously this game really needs more population... Expect from some balance issues I think it has a lot of potential.
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>>121160043
Part of the Hearthstone fanbase is unhappy with blizzard, expect some influx
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>>121160043
I would happily shill for it desu
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>>121160216
/r/duelyst gained 300+ members in just over an hour today, it's getting pimped out on /r/hearthstone in a complain post. Normally gains like 5-10 a day. Should expect some more players soon
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>>121160718
Now all we need is for some youtuber to plug it

Maybe Totalbiscuit
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>>121160718
how is r/duelyst compared to here?
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>>121161047
Anything would be better than this place
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>>121161310
Shame that I cant handle Reddit's layout and general stuff.
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>>121160216
Blizzardrones are always unhappy with blizzard, but they still eat that shit up
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>While completely optional, if you use the referral code "redditpals", you'll start the game with an extra 100 gold.
Fuck this thread, I should've gone to reddit
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Post your battle music:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=709KA_c5vB0
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>>121165285
>one day's winnings, minus quests

wow, so much
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>>121165645
Just got the same error. It went away when I tried again.
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>>121165548
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t-cd4vMq6E
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>>121165689
I guess I'm done for the day. Tried it twice more but keep getting it.
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>>121165548
Fuck that's not the version I wanted to post.
https://d.maxfile.ro/sjxcwbofen.mp3
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>>121165738
Gee, I wonder which faction you might be
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>>121165548
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbB8mcM_xS8
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67efrgWV4MI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bk5rvhXahZU
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Why are these threads so shit?
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Is it just me or did they nerf the fuck out of XP gain? I think I just got nothing for a pretty long game resulting in a loss.
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>>121168336
Probably because the game is shit
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>>121168336
the threads should never have left /v/
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>we'll get a playerbase once steam releases r-right guys?
Dead game, abandon ship
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>>121169373
>>121168336
>>121169040
You're a part of the problem
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Man leveling factions is such a hassle but I managed to get both Magmar and Lyonar to 10 last night. I'm at Songhai 9 now, what do I do next?
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>>121170038
Not my fault the game is shit senpai
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>>121171358
Songhai gets better once you get all the cards. I actually managed to get some wins with it.
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Alright fellow Fagmars, how the hell do you deal with Ayylmaora Healer? I Mana Burned the first and trampled it, but how the fuck do I recover from the second?
>>121171358
You get a free orb whenever you get a faction to 11, so I'd do that with Magmar and Lyonar first
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>>121169373
There's gonna be a small surge, reddit is trying to make it flavor of the month for hearthstone shitters.
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>>121172341
I don't have trouble winning, I main Abyssal and got to rank 10 within 3 days of starting playing. Now I'm leveling other factions though and I need to choose between Vanar and the p2wguy.

>>121172492
Oh nice, thanks forgot.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHUdNbKvu5c&feature=youtu.be
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>>121174479
This shit's pretty tight. Although the idea of longer animations when I already feel like I never have enough time to think doesn't really tickle me
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I drew a time maelstrom for packs. How does this work though?
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>>121177004
You get manaforgers and enough cards in your hand and play for 2 turns straight.
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>>121177004
It doesn't. Forget about that card. Vets are all about star fury, third wish, portal fuckery and annoying healers, and all of those cards are rare as fuck. Maelstrom looks cool, but by the time you can play it the match will probably be settled already.
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Where's the fucking pastebin OP?
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>>121177091
>>121177445
But how does it work? If I cast it and end turn do I get to go again?
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I thought tha this game had better drops. It's my fifth egg thing and I'm only getting cmmons and a blue or two.
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>>121177526
Yup, it skips your opponents turn. You draw new cards, get new mana, etc.
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>>121177526
There is a Proving grounds challenge that involves using that spell.
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>>121177526
You cast it and when your turn ends or you press the end turn bottom you play another turn like it's nothing. All units refresh, you get another mulligan and draw cards.
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Is there any benefit to grinding your rank up?
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>>121178260
Get gold to receive a free legendary next month.
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what are tips for?

other than disrespect
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>>121138524
>two card combo is more powerful than one card
You don't fucking say. Gonna complain about Dominate Will vs Blindscorch + Zen'rui, too? No shit it's more powerful. It's a consistency question.

Hell, it's not even objectively better since you can play around a rush minion with smart positioning and provokes. Spiral is just a "fuck you"
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>>121178348
How much gold per rank?
>>
I am so fucking sick of Abyssshitters flooding the board. I can't deal with that faggotry without Magmar or Lyonar for the constant Dispel and nukes.
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>>121174479
>3 different jaxes
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>121179350
I mean reach Golden division. There's also a bunch of gold every 2 wins and for the first win of the day, along with quests.
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>abyssian vs songhai
>starts with phoenix fire, ok
>get to summon 2 gloomchasers.
>summons Maw, activates it and buffs it with saberspine seal, then charges one of the GCs
>forwhatpurpose.emote
>"oops"
>concedes.
Man, easiest match ever.
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>>121179603
I'm hovering around rank 17 with only starter decks, 10 shouldn't be that hard, right?
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>>121180032
You will notice when you reach 13-12
People start having like 3-6 legendaries in every deck
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>>121180313
Damn. I hope I can get through that barrier before the season ends.
>>
This game will never take off.
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>>121174479
>Those general animations

where did those go?
>>
>>121180698
Some factions can have decently cheap decks that can climb you to gold. Honestly, as long as you don't play Vanar you probably can handle it, just expect a harder time.
>>
>>121174479
>that platinum star at 2:28
Is he in the game at all? If he is, I need to play him. And the pig too.
>>
Every literal game is a facerush game and Hearthstone is more enjoyable as a rush vs antirush game. Sorry, but this game will not survive more than a year after launch. It was a nice experiment but fails as a casual strategy game or even to compete with TCGs like MtG, Hex or HS.
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When will Mechazor be viable?
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>>121182449
>comparing a freshly backed jewstarter to an elder jew game
I give you that this game is still shit but you should try harder.
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Been running this with mixed results and dont have much dust, how can I improve this on a budget?

Trying to get this alt faction deck to work but im stuck at 15-16
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>>121182580
It's viable at rank 20 :^)
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Shouldn't Sarlac be 3 mana or something? He seems dominant in so many high tier in half the factions.
>>
>>121182580
They should allow him to attack the same turn he comes out. Mst of the time he dies in the enemy turn.
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>>121183458
When he resurrects, he should gain that ability which makes units immune to spells.
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Is there a cheap way to build vanar without legendaries? They look like a fun faction, but I only have one Sarlac as a legendary and I know nothing about them beyond their walls and annoying 3/3 guy,
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>tfw no gf and no legos
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>>121187132
>tfw gf and no legos
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>>121187246
>tfw no gf and legos
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>>121187246
normies pls go
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>>121187132
>tfw my gf left me and I unpacked 5 legos
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>>121187132
tf no gf and storm kage, i mean no legos
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>>121188069
Speaking of Storm Kage. I just dusted him. Is he actually any good?
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>>121188273
Don't really know but I doubt it, just dropped but im going to keep it he looks cool.
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>>121188273
He might have some use in arcanist and spell decks I guess.
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Pretty new player here, how long should I wait before using my free gauntlet ticket? So far I'm rank 17 after a day, with nothing but the vanar starter deck. Should I git gud or git game knowledge first?
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Help me improve this deck so I can reach Gold.
I feel like I can't play all my shadow dancers and they usually sit around like dead weight or get instantly removed. I use Shadow Watchers for dispel bait.
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>>121190882
Forgot pic. I can disenchant neutral legendaries to make another Sarlac but that's as far as I can go.
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>>121190882
>>121191118
>inb4 shit deck and I'm retarded
I wouldn't make this post otherwise.
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>>121189910
It depends on how good you're at understanding synergy and drafting, you probably want to play anything but songay
If you have any experience with card games it shouldn't be complicated

On a side note, I wanted to make a more aggressive deck, and it's just bananas, tips anyone?
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>>121183559
>rush on a minion with range frenzy spell-invul and airdrop

That bullshit. Are you even thinking these things through? That might be interesting if they added a "of Mechaz0r" with rush.
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>>121191925
I just wish the resulting Mechazor had different stats/abilities depending on how it's assembled.
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Ded general
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>>121191118
>>121190882
pls respond
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>>121195181
Here's your (You)
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>>121195334
People complain that this thread is ded yet nobody's willing to help and actually generate discussion.
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I'm relatively new at this game and have been using an obelisk centered Vetruvian deck. It's fun but how long until it doesn't work?
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>>121195586
Obelisks aren't good outside of removal bait.
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>>121195586
mid silver starts going full aggro.
From what I heard best vet is blast
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>>121195586
You'll start to suffer pretty much as soon as people start running dispels
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>>121195181
You need a third Priestess, and maybe cut one of the Dancers. They're definitely your high end.
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>>121195784
That's what I've seen too. Maybe the Abyssinian playstyle is what I'm looking for.
>>121195790
Only blast minion I have right now are the pyromancers.
>>121196042
I've seen a couple already and they really do fuck me over.
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>>121195471
most of the time if you don't get a response, it's usually because people don't know how to help. That's why I didnt
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So this guy is garbage, right? I was wondering if I should dust the 3 copies I have if I just started playing.
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>>121196458
There's only two blast minions, along with an artifact that gives blast. Most Vet players I've talked to have given up running Pyromancer. He's really strong when he works but he's dealt with very swiftly most of the time.
the other blast minion is Starfire Scarab. He's pretty strong in the more value-based Vet decks but most people eschew him simply because of their mana curves not allowing it.

Most commonly, Vetruvian is played very controlly. Trying to maintain board control as best they can against midrange and healing through aggro decks until they let their late game take over. Third Wish gives them strong burst and Aymara gives them strong stall.
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>>121196458
You haven't lived until you've played Arcanyst Vet. Prismatic Illusionist coupled with all of the fucking draw they have is a comedy incomparable to normal comedy. Coupled with the sticks, you just kinda chunk up half the board and shrug at your opponent.
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>>121196458
the best thing you can get is the ank
Also the scarab
I'm not a vanar player but that'w what most blanars use, but >>121196930 knows his shit

If you want something like Magic's blood artist then yeah you want Abysshitters
>>121196925
Rarely is he used and rarely is he useful.
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>>121196925

He stole my Elder today and made me lose
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Remember to play around Star's Fury
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New bread when?
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>>121201780
>700 posts in a dead thread
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>>121202684
>>121202684
>>121202684
>>121202684
>>121202684
new thread
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>>121176129
you can control it before the animation's finished senpai.
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>>121178917
Say there is a person who is rank 20 and never wins. If everyone they play against tips them, by 20 games they can buy a spirit orb that can help them get better cards.
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