What does /v/eddit think of this?

>>389531495
third nostalgia bait
third overrated mediocrity
third actually good games

The only good games in that image are Super Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2.

>>389531705
>>389531750
spoken like a true neokikeshitendo drone

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>>389531687
>removing Xenoblade, the only classic on the list

>>389531495
Yakuza 0 and dishonored are the only good game in there

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>>389531495
>Super Mario Galaxy
>2007
>"modern"

>>389531495
Both galaxy games don't need to be there since 2 is basically a retelling.
Replace it with Dead Space 1.

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fixed for people who actually give a fuck about gameplay

>>389531907
Why are you toddlers so obsessed with Sony?

whatever will get me the most (you)'s is the only good game on there

>>389531949
fixed for people who are incredibly insecure about being called a casual

>>389531949
>Half of these are the same
Wew

>>389531907
70 million

>>389531495
>Dishonored
Yeah
>Doom
Yeah
>Wolfenstein
Maybe but I feel like its impact wasn't big enough. If II stays on course then it'll probably be the classic of the nu-Wolfenstein series.
>Skyrim
Unfortunately yeah
>Dark Souls
Yup
>Bloodborne
Definitely
>SMG
Yes
>SMG
Its rep as a worse version of the above makes it unlikely
>BOTW
Quite possibly but wait to see if the circlejerk turns on it when the next one comes out
>Bayonetta
Cult classic but yes
>TLOU
Yup
>Yakuza
nope, its gonna be forgotten within a year outside the fanbase
>NMH
Nobody gives a shit about Suda51 games besides LID these days
>Xenoblade
Yeah
>TW3
unfortunately yeah
>Bioshock
Yes
>GTAIV
Nah, its not as beloved as the ps2 games or V. It's not classic material at all.
>MGSV
Nope, too controversial these days thanks to it being half finished, Konami burning all their bridges, the online being a mess, and people realising how tedious the grinding is.

>>389532013
Except No More Heroes and Xenoblade Chronicales aren't casual at all and I still removed them you total moron

>>389531949
what an edgelord

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>>389532069
>No More Heroes
>not casual at all

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>>389531949

>>389532143
delete your post, mods

>>389531495
All of them are pretty much must play games in my book but I wouldn't call Doom and Wolfenstein classic cause I don't see anyone going back to those campaigns after the initial playthrough/s. A fun rump but no actual staying power. And GTA 4 can burn in hell for all eternity. If you defend this turd you should be enslaved until you find all pigeons without a guide.

>>389532064
shit taste

>>389531495
>Modern

Super Mario Galaxy is older than half of the posters here.

>>389532064
/thread

>doom
>botw
>witcher
>xenoblade
>bioshock
>skyrim™
>mgs

>>389532402
My post is based on what I think is likely to end up being considered a classic rather than what I'd want to be.

Hence me saying "unfortunately yes" to some.

Doom was good. Could have been great but too many poor creative choices.
TNO was awful.
Skyrim is alright.
Never personally cared for Souls but I don't think it's bad.
Galaxy was pretty good. Didn't play much of 2.
BotW is good. Not 10/10, but good.
Bayonetta is great.
Fuck TLoU.
Haven't played Yakuza 0 yet but I'm sure it's fantastic.
NMH isn't the best game but the style more than makes up for it.
There's a lot of cool shit about Bioshock but the gameplay is meh.

Haven't played the rest.

>>389532635
shit opinions

>>389532705
>too many poor creative choices
Like?

>>389531495
doom and skyrim are objectively bad games tho

>>389532775
Level design, constantly being showered with health and ammo as soon as you need it, tons of useless or redundant upgrades, only three hell levels. Off the top of my head.

>>389532064
>skyrim is a classic without a doubt but whenever MSGV is not a good game and BOTW is only popular thanks to the circlejerk

Absolutely shit taste

>>389531687
>gets rid of bayonetta
>leaves garbage like The Last of Us

horrible bait.

>>389531495
Nope.
This shit is retarded and most of it doesn't even belong in the same category. Why two Mario games? Why DS instead of DeS? Oblivion and Morrowind were both better than Skyrim. GTAIV was painfully mediocre, SA or VC would be better choices. BotW was also painfully mediocre. Phantom Pain was painfully awful, like dead inside, like this is the sad shadow of a monolith that once was. Witcher was shit, but I'll let it slide because retards have pika and eat shit. Wolfenstein was fine for a generic shooter, as was Doom, but modern classic? No. Think Wolfmother: great sound, good reproduction of older stuff with modernized panache, but largely forgotten.

>>389532909
See >>389532635

I think Skyrim was shit but at the end of the day its going to be considered a classic by the masses whereas BotW may still fall victim to the Zelda cycle and MGSV has a shit ton of controversy already.

>>389532751
I'm right though.

>>389532991
shit confidence

>TLoU

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>>389532064
>half finished

The game was missing 1 mission that was 30% done.

>>389533091
Lemme fix this for my boy: unfinished, underdeveloped and neglectfully produced.

>>389533091
Near the entirety of Part 2 was a barely cobbled together mess that could barely be considered "rushed".

>>389531932
Op probably thinks the term modern, refers to the post war era such as jackson Pollack

>>389531495
>Dishonored
No
>Doom
No
>Wolfenstein
No
>Skyrim
No
>Dark Souls
No
>Bloodborne
Yes
>SMG
Yes
>SMG
Yes
>BOTW
Definitely
>Bayonetta
Yes
>TLOU
Mediocre third person shooter with shitty AI? I don't think so
>Yakuza
Cult classic maybe
>NMH
Nah
>Xenoblade
Haven't played it
>TW3
Nah, it's terrible
>Bioshock
Nah, it sucked
>GTAIV
Hell no
>MGSV
Not even finished

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>>389531495
>all those western titles
What the fuck do you think /v/ thinks of it?

>>389532867
anon, the health, and ammo is showered at you to encourage you to move into and toward the enemy instead of taking cover and sparing your bullets.

It's actually brilliant.

>>389533453
So why not give unlimited ammo?

>>389533381
Go back to your waifushit weebcuck

Jesus christ no
Only The Witcher 3, Bayonetta and Dark Souls could be considered a classic in the future, the rest are mediocre to shit GARBAGE.

>>389531495
I doubt people will remember Dishonored much in the future.
Yakuza 0 and Wolfenstein will likely be mostly remembered as series and not the specific games posted.
Otherwise yeah, I think most those games will be remembered and popular years into the future.

>>389533545
Back to r/eddit faggot

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>>389533545
Are you lost?

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>>389531495
fixed

>>389533518
because that's also bad game design, the enemies never always refill every gun at once and they also don't refill some guns at all, there are times when you might have a dead gun for a whole stage if you're unlucky. the reason the chainsaw exists and has a finite fuel source is to remedy this too. if gives you an emergency "I need a lot of ammo now" weapon that is also a one hit kill to whatever you wish you had ammo for.

It keeps the momentum and it keeps the player needing resources while expanding them evenly which makes the gunplay feel like more of a nice balancing act of having and not having ammo.

The reason therefor is that ammo "feels" better than having no ammo. I imagine many games are designed with this in mind, making the player have an unlimited everything is boring and players also respond well to collecting things, every game has that feature and it's a positive reinforcement for doing well.

it's pretty basic stuff but enemies dropping ammo is pretty smart because you're not dodging them to stay alive, they're your "alive" and you need to get up and in them to survive even though the closer you get the more dangerous they get, that's why the design is good, it makes you feel great by deign.

I feel like BotW will age badly if Nintendo keeps refining open world Zelda with this engine

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>>389531495
Look at those Xbox titles

>>389534109
>that's why the design is good
No, that's why it sucks. It makes it more casual. It's a shooting game and they turn it into a QTE fest. There's no defending that.

>>389534323
>0.3 second animation that helps the game maintain momentum
>QTE fest
It's not healthy browsing /v/ for extended periods of time. Take a step back and clear your head, find something else more productive to do.

>>389531495
I'm down with all of these but Yakuza 0 really. I think it's just FOTM. The other games will most likely be remembered and discussed for years to come.

>>389534572
>maintain momentum
>when you're fighting demons with a shotgun
The original Doom game perfected the FPS genre decades ago. Sorry but the QTE fest was just there to appeal to casuals, nothing more. I want the real Doom back. Lots of monsters and ammo and normal HP packs.

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>>389531495
wrong

>>389531495
>tlou
>>389531687
kys retard

>>389534743
But Galaxy 2 is better

>>389532064
This guy has it right.

>>389532064
Suda has nothing to do with Let It Die you autismo

>>389534323
>There's no defending that.
Whatever, I'll give it a go anyway

So the "QTE's" in the game don't actually remove you from being able to control doom guy, they allow you look around while the "QTE" is in place.
This allows the player to never really be out of action in the game, that being said, finishers last for all of the 1/3rd of a second so they're really quite tiny and they don't interrupt the flow, because you're going where the demons are anyway so you may as well finish them off quicker than with bullets while gaining armor and ammo for going where you need to go. again, it's a nice balancing act that moves the player forward and through the enemies instead of ducking and dodging and strafing about around them until they're allowed to move forward.
new doom has you constantly moving forward and this design is perfect for that.

The way new doom is isn't bad at all, it's just not what you want it to be and that's understandable.

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>>389531495
Wheres sonic unleashed? Catherine? Shadowrun? Some actual real underrated classics?

>nu male shit like skyrim, meme souls, zelda, and witcher

Fuck off

>>389534771
Wrong

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>>389534950
>Sonic Unleashed
this board needs a fucking cleansing

>>389533734
Are you? That whole picture is constructed from a logical fallacy and it's totally appropriate to call out weebs on every board except /a/, /c/, /d/, /e/, /h/, /u/, /w/, /i/, /y/, /cgl/, /co/, and finally /jp/. Calling someone a weeb in any of those boards will be interpreted as you being ironic or retarded. With that said, who the fuck cares, stop being so fucking sensitive and get the fuck over your whiny weeb dilemma. It has always been a part of board culture.

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>>389534950
>Wheres sonic unleashed? Catherine? Shadowrun?
>Some actual real underrated classics?

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>>389531495
>>389531687
Way to not have any actual fucking classics

>>389531495
Needs Undertale, like it or not

>>389535130
>Not the Xbox version
Also not modern.

>>389535038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD1GEgkcCA8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2BWQjLacuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0piixxCTmo

Xenoblade the music is fucking god-tier. I highly recommend it if you like Jrpgs. The only complaint I've heard on /v/ is it is a single-player MMO, which helps the game as it makes a massive, unique world that encourages that type of gameplay. Get the dolphin emulated version.

>>389535178
I didn't say that oxymoronic horseshit the tabloids came up with to further shill whatever hot trash comes out, I said actual classics you fucking retard.

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>>389534950
The lack of self-awareness in this post while unironically thinking Sonic Unleashed and Catherine should be listed tells me that you're a fucking imbecile that should be ignored
>>389535130
Are you blind? Why on earth would a game released in 2001 be on a modern classics list?

>>389534950
Well, guess it's time for me to leave this place for good.

>>389534926
>they allow you look around while the "QTE" is in place
But they still take away control from the player! The entire point of the FPS genre, the whole reason why it existed in the first place was because of Wolfenstein. Shooting Nazis in the face. That's it. Then there was Doom with the shotgun. Shooting demos with a shotgun was a pretty novel idea at the time and that idea still works and it's been pissed on ever since. They took a perfect genre that did everything right and turned it into shit.
>This allows the player to never really be out of action in the game
But the player is always in the action because it's an action game, there's action going on all the time.
>it's just not what you want it to be
In other words it's shit and they aimed it at casuals. That's the truth. These publishers? They can't approve of an idea that says "let's make an FPS game that's hardcore, normal HP packs and ammo." No, no, no, no. They gotta ruin it and they say the old way is "archaic." I've seen publishers and developers say that shit so many times. Even the company that made the game say their best games are "bad because they don't hold up anymore" and it pisses me off. http://kotaku.com/blizzard-wont-remaster-old-warcraft-games-because-theyr-1788675948

>>389535130
make a classics thread then you thick skulled spastic

>>389535214
Literally the only good post in the thread. Which makes sense because xenoblade has a pretty knowledgeable fan base, even if it numbers around half a million at best

>>389531949
>Bayonetta
>Gameplay
Kek

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Fixed.

>>389535190
Sonic was never good.

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>>389534950

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>>389535428
Oh look it's ACfag again.

>>389535275
no, they made a different game with a different design, the QTE's as I've explained are there to move the player into the demons. if you're not understanding how this works then I can draw it for you in paint, it is really simple and elegant design.

yeah, but if you're going to have any form of enemy interacting QTE the point is to never stop the player from being able to interact, it quite literally works as intended and doesn't interrupt the flow of the game.

>In other words, it's shit and they aimed it at casuals
You're not the bar they have to reach, you're not the standard at which they need to please, you're nobody. you saying it's casual means nothing when you can't even understand how the game is designed well even if you don't like it. what they did works for THIS game.

Design changes, its will progress, evolves, not every mechanic is suited for every kind of game and it's about recognising what is good and works in a game and doesnt.

If a dev says that their old games were badly designed and they are going to improve on them then that's fine, I hope they make much better games for it, but just because you like the old doesn't mean the new has to be the same or that it's worse.
the old will always exist, and just because it's good to doesnt mean it will work well for every game of the same genre here forth either.

let it piss you off though, instead go become a designer and actually design some things instead of complaining that things are bad. be the change you want to see.

Needs New Vegas to be complete

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>>389536095
>doesn't interrupt the flow of the game
>QTEs doesn't interrupt the gameplay
Hooo boy. neo/v/ in action

>>389536229
they're over before they started though.

>>389532064
Thread should have ended here

>>389531495
Not only does UR MR GAY not belong there, but it's there twice
Remove GTAIV
TLOU was shit but influential, it can stay
I don't know abou Xenoblade

>>389531495
missing Overwatch

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>>389531495

>>389535214
>>389535387
Men of taste and intelligence

>Dishonored
Ok

>Doom
Good

>Wolf
Good

>Skyrim
Ok

>Dark Souls
Ok

>Bloodborne
Great

>Bayonetta
Good

>Last of Us
Ok

>No More Heroes
Ok

>Witcher 3
Great

>Bioshock
Good

>Phantom Pain
Ok

Haven't played the rest. But only having two great games doesn't fill me with much confidence. A lot of them aren't really modern either. Bioshock is now a decade old.

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You are forgetting the fantastic RPGs of this decade

Bayonetta was mediocre as fuck. A worse Metal Gear Rising with none of what made that game good. In Bayonetta you don't give a shit about characters, you play as a vapid slut who is friends with other one-dimensional morons.
People overrate Bayonetta because LE SEXY LE FAP LE WAIFU

>>389531495
>no smt IV
>but there's Galaxy 2, the bitcher and asshole pain

Get >>>/out/

>>389539360
woah....... it's almost like platinum used their experience on Bayonetta to make sure their next game is even better. damn........... really boggles the mind

>>389539452
Ok faggot so why not replace Gayonetta with Metal Gear Rising? Fucking passive-aggressive nu-male

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>>389539374
SMTIV is the worst SMT game and Galaxy 2 is the best Mario game, I'm not sure what you're getting at.

>>389533584
>Dark Souls
>Classic
It's only liked because it came out in the 7th gen. If it came out any earlier it would have been critically panned and flopped for being poorly designed garbage.

>>389533884
good post

>>389539591
Maybe try using your brain instead of asking the obvious like a tool you fucktard

>>389539591
Why are you so fucking angry, loser?

>>389540345
>>389540371
t. low-test faggot cuckolds. Go jerk off to Bayonetta you fucking nerds.

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>>389531495
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>>389540419
You realize as far as mechanical depth goes Bayonetta is objectively better than MGR, right?

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>>389539360
imagine being this insecure

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>>389540538
Holy fuck, there is no way that's real.

>>389531495
Need to remove Skyrim, Zelda and TLOU.

>>389540538
All gaming journalists needs to be killed.

>>389532951
>Why DS instead of DeS
Because apparently DS kiddies isn't just for memes, it was before their time.