Why do so many gamers hate free market/capitalism?

He's right tho

>>388923809
unless you're rich you're a retard if you don't hate the free market/capitalism since it doesn't benefit you in the slightest

>>388923862
When I was big into modding Fallout 3, I can say he was categorically 100% fucking wrong.

>>388923809
Why do you make false assumptions like some kind of dumb shit? We hate that we're not getting the game we want. Period.

>>388923809
From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.

>>388923862
Not when it comes to modding. Modders make what they want to make, and they do it because they want to do it. Monetary gain just complicates a process that doesn't need an extra layer of complication.

If a modder wants to make money off of their mods, they can ask for donations, which is what I did during my short time modding for NV and Skyrim.

>>388923809
Money is all he cares about he doesn't care about the modders he just sees how big the modding community is and he wants to make a profit off of it

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>>388923862
>Modding community has been doing things out of their hearts for other people without expecting money in change because they are not jews

rly maeks u tink

>>388923809
>>>/biz/

>>388923809
All money is a matter of belief.

I agree with him. I upvoted him

>Community always wanted Half-Life 3
>Would sell millions of copies
>...but it doesn't automatically print money like digital hats lolololol
Fuck you, Gabe

Isn't saying something should have a price also against free market? From a capitalist perspective not paying for something is an ideal situation.

>>388923809
Is that negative 5k? neat

>>388924172
nobody said all mods should be paid. did you think gaben somehow made free mods illegal?

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>Company makes shitty paid mods
>Consumers think this is shitty
>They don't buy mods
>Company loses money and gets rid of service
He's right

>muh gayben xD
He's a businessman and he will bleed you stupid fucks dry if you continue to buy his garbage.

>>388923809
free market seems to dictate doing as little work as possible while charging as much as it can get away with without pissing people off

It's why games are so soulless now.

>>388924013
>they can ask for donations
Your view is so naive.

>>388923890
>lives in a first world country where he has high speed internet and spends his nights shitposting about entertainment like video games on an anime forum
>hates capitalism

>>388923809
because modders don't get equity or profit sharing. they get a penance and the publisher gets rich off their backs.

>>388923809
Thanks for reminding me that the autistic gaming and pcmasterace reddit community literally forgave him the next day after he said that.

>>388924336
>lives in a country where people get diseases, car accidents, and murdered every day
>loves capitalism
oh boy i love this game

>>388924336
>High speed internet
>Implying that we aren't getting rekt by 3rd world shitholes like Korea because Big Brother doesn't have his thumb over data caps

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>>388924298
>Gabe still hasn't hired more people to help in the customer support so they dont take 1 month to answer

>>388924334
>Your view is so naive.
Go lay in your bed of food and money Gaben, it's late.

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>>388923809
>free market
Never existed in the history of mankind.
>capitalism
>trade me 5 cow hides for 10 wolf pelts
Is not a morality system and without Christian laws and values it creates cancer like the US is now and like the globalist corporations are now.
Notice that there are no medium budget games, and the reason why it is like that.

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>>388923890
Except for the part where private industry has lifted literally hundreds of millions of people out of poverty and led to skyrocketing living standards.

Or would you like to go back to eating onion skins in the winter to stave off starvation?

Y'all need Rothbard.

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>>388924440
If only Amazon would buy them out like they did Twitch.

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>>388924420
>Trump says something harmless
>Make a shitstorm about it because you have nothing else to do in a 1st world country
>Meanwhile people doesn't make a shitstorm about data caps

USA deserves to be cucked desu

>>388924480
under free market capitalism I'd currently be dead and my job taken over by a cheap Syrian because the market doesn't like borders

>>388924172
>Isn't saying something should have a price also against free market?
No!

If a company says something should have a price but the market determines otherwise, the company will lose money, and other alternatives will be found

The whole point of a free market is that products can compete for the customers money, if the customers don't want the product, they don't buy

>>388924462
>medium budget games

What is Nier automata then?

>>388924418

What fairy tale land do you live in where people don't bleed and die like real normal humans?

>>388924640
Shame on you for not being more productive than a third world ape

>>388924640
Virtually all refugees in Western countries are only there because the government pays for them to be there, either directly covering the cost of their transportation or luring them in with enormous piles of welfare.

Most of them are illiterate *in their own language* and are borderline retarded. You could outcompete them easily.

Also, without the state, people are free to discriminate in any way they wish, so employers could refuse to hire people from particular backgrounds with no fear of litigation.

>>388924109
>taking so long to realize this
lol, valve as you want to remember them have been dead for over a decade

>>388924713
are you suggesting that not every aspect of society is controlled by whether or not it is capitalist?

capitalism is the problem with everything in the game industry because the economy of gaming is practically democratic due to the nature of digital information and democracy is the death of quality

since pricing a game above sixty bucks is basically unthinkable, and every adult in the western world can afford to spend sixty bucks, and nobody buys a game more than once, then all your design decisions are built around catering to the tastes of the vast majority since that will earn you more cash
it's not like with luxury cars or hobbyist equipment or whatever where each individual product has a certain cost and it thus becomes viable to make both expensive shit for people into it and cheap shit for the casual audience because even if you only sell one single gold-plated rolls royce, you only need to invest in one single copy which you can sell for an overall profit
the reproducibility of digital information makes you pool all your funding into one single product which can then be copied as much as possible, and this makes low-end casual games (which make up a larger slice of the income pie) have enormous levels of content and polish compared with a high-end hardcore game (for a much smaller audience) so those hardcore games are much more crude, limited and primitive, completely unlike the rolls royce

the only way to solve this would be massive governmental funding overseen by a gaming expert, which is about as likely as the mass consumers suddenly becoming hardcore quake pros so good luck with that

of course this sounds like a more dire situation than it really is, there's still lots of great and polished games for the gaming enthusiast, but the major cause of casualization as it exists is still this

The only reason modders haven't asked for money before is because they would get a fucking C&D

>>388923809
Because it's fucking ruining EVERYTHING.

Paid dlc/mods, lootboxes, microtransactions, mediocre cookiecutter AAA games, 60 dollar early access games, asset flip games, pay 2 win, exclusive titles.

All examples of the shittier side of capitalism , because when making money is the only goal it becomes a race to see just how much they can take from you while giving you as little as possible in return.

>>388925083
Not the guy you're replying to, but the fact that people are fallible and limited by biological necessity are things that are universally true, capitalism or not.

>If you are critical of a shitty business practice you hate the free market

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>all these commie posts with reddit spacing

>>388924418
I honestly hope that retards like you would be thrown into some soviet gulag to see for yourself how great your dream system is.
You will go back on your knees begging for capitalism to go back.

>>388923809
>based Gabe getting Reddit gold

>>388924756
the difference between a bangladeshi street child and a western blue-collar factory worker is that while the westerner can do a better job, ten bangladeshi will do an even better job than him, and for the same total pay
which is a problem for the westerner who expects a higher standard of living

>>388924462
>Christian laws and values

love this meme

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>>388925093
>>388924640
>>388923968
>>388923890

>>388925126
if you choose to buy bad games, dont blame free market. blame your own stupidity

>>388925336
>if you don't suck the dick of capitalism at every single moment you're a socialist
1776 was a mistake

>>388924336

>Lives in a country where if he gets mugged & stabbed walking down the street the hospital will charge him 200,000 dollars to keep him alive & stitch him up.

>Lives in a country where his government would rather let a city full of people get lead poisoning than spend money to fix it's faulty water infrastructure.

Loves capitalism.

>>388925126

Technically you can't blame that shit on the companies in free market capitalism, only the customers that let them get away with it. We aren't talking a necessity like food here, it's fucking video games.

I'm reminded of that image showing all those people who were supposedly going to boycott MW2 currently playing MW2. If they actually had the courage of their convictions they may have got what they wanted but apparently not playing a game they weren't happy with was just too much a sacrifice for those people to make.

Of course capitalism is going to fuck you in the ass when you bend over and spread your cheeks for it. The point is you don't bend over.

>>388923809
the free market on benefits rich elite jews

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>>388925430
>>if you don't suck the dick of capitalism at every single moment you're a socialist
where did i say that?

>>388925512
it was implied

>>388925253

This. Indian IT workers are pure garbage but you can hire ten of them for the same price of a western cuck. That's how they came to dominate the job market.

>>388925083

No, because that's reaching into paranoia and nobody gives a damn enough to control so many petty aspects of life

>>388925228
Hating capitalism doesn't automatically mean you like socialism

>>388924336
>high speed internet
lmao

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>>388925491
>City of retards elect retards to oversee infrastructure
>Infrastructure goes to shit
>Blame capitalism

>>388925336
pointing out the flaws of the free market doesn't make one a socialist, most people on here claiming to be pro-free market also want their borders to be closed off to illegal immigrants

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>>388925491
You poor fucks. Now I understand why people want to bomb you.

>>388924756
More people means more choices. Doesn't matter if they're better or worse than you (though high-skill immigration is actually worse for native people than low-skill) but that means it's an employer's market. If 100 people apply to a job with 10 positions and they're all equally capable for the job the first one to take a lower salary will get the job, which then normalizes and everyone has to start working for that wage.

>>388925228
what is it with burgers and this black and white thinking.

>you're either with us or with the terrorists

>Gabe is an lolbertarian.

Welp. Gonna have to delete Steam and go back to pirating.

>>388924458

He's kinda right.

The only way to get donations on the internet is too be friend simulator for pathetic people with money.

When they don't know the modder more personally, these people will not donate to him, even if he's more deserving of it than 100 e-celebrity trash doing the same shit.

I think the modder of SkyUI got 100 dollars in 5 years. Your e-celebrity is getting 10 000 dolars per month.

>>388925720
America is full of Anakin tier retards.

>>388925356
You ever hear of standards? Go google it. Both us and the industry used to have them.

>>388924023
They are trying to create a new fun game to play but don't want to create an entirely new game engine, assets, animations, effects, sound, UI and controls.

When they actually succeed in making a fun game, they're supposed to go make it a reality so they can sell it. I don't believe its all about being a decent person, modding that is

>>388924480
Private industry would have killed hundreds of millions if it weren't for government stepping in and regulating it.

Also,

>capitalists trying to take credit for the work of scientists / engineers

No.

>>388924336
Lad, one of these days you will read about the history of economics and learn about imperialism, aggressive protectionism and social programs.

>>388925897
there are many good games retard. buying substandard games is your own fault/choice

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>>388926101
Shitty games are most times the product of someone who thinks they can half ass together a low effort hackjob and profit off of it. This wouldn't exist if it weren't for capitalism.

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Gas the bourgies class war now

>>388926430
gas the bourgies aristocracy now

>>388926372
Yeah, under communism all the games would be shitty since no one would expect to receive any profit off them.

>>388926550
>Implying Tetris isn't the best game known to man

>>388923890
this
classcucks are delusional

>>388923968
I don't get why people romanticize this quote.

It literally means "work as hard as you can but you're still getting paid the same."

Honestly not sure how people can romanticize communism in the first place, unless you think being poor is morally good or something.

>>388925336
>simplify a countries government, emitting certain details, and claim it's communism
>people that say it isn't are raving lunatics who are never pleased

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>>388926550
>There is only communism and capitalism, no compromise or middle ground exists

>>388926602

How about I list all the good games capitalism gave us and you list all the good games communism gave us and we see whose list is longer?

>>388925654
While I agreed there are flaws, I just can't think of a better alternative than the mixture we have in America(with probably smaller gov)

>>388926205

He has a point. Most people who invented useful shit throughout history did not become super rich or even rich. If you think the internet is some achievement of free enterprise, it wouldn't exist without the state and taxpayer money through military research.

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>>388926680
Even if it wasn't the magical white rabbit of "true" Communism it should be self evident that at this point with enough countries bankrupted from their attempt and millions of people's lives ruined that it isn't worth attempting any more.
After all what makes you think the Communist attempt you're aiming for will turn out any better than every other?

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>>388924575
I kek'd.

The modding community was functioning perfectly fine before old fucks like Gabe and Todd decided to stick their grubby Jewish hands in it. Why can't they just leave it alone?

>>388926856
Scientist and Engineers who only got the education, funding and resources to accomplish their research thanks to Capitalist wealth enabling them to focus on it instead of spending all day farming wheat because the central planner said so.

>>388927025
>Why can't they just leave it alone?
Money, capitalism.

>>388926550
Communism is fucking trash too, this is not. I know that. But we need to fix what's wrong with capitalism and create something new. Or it will hold us back indefinitely.

>>388923809
I thought he died before I clicked on the thumbnail.

>>388926943
oh god I thought he was one of those thumbs from the thumb movies that Steve Odekirk did

>>388927063
>you can ONLY be a commie soviet state or an ancap roadless paradise

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>>388925336
This time again?

Capitalism needs to go. We need a system where the rich have 90% of their income taxed and distributed to the public in some sort of way.

Prove me wrong.

>>388926705
>>388927202
if you have nothing of import to add then just shut the fuck up

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>>388927264
That's my boy.

>>388924172
>From a capitalist perspective not paying for something is an ideal situation.
Sure, for the consumer/worker. The thing is that the people who say they love capitalism so much are on the side of the rich, not regular people.

>>388927063

Soviets invented satellite communication, you're only able to shitpost on your phone because of communism.

Capitalism doesn't breed intelligence, it just exploits it.

>>388927264

You want feudalism again?

>>388923809
Because the end result of it is megacorps turning otherwise good games into focus tested garbage, baiting people with badge engineering and excessive marketing. All things the traditional gamer market despises.

>>388927227
Technically, the argument is correct. Real communism has never been tried. And it probably never will either, because as long as a human is in charge of it, it simply won't happen.

>>388923809
Gabe Newell proves it to you!
For some reason the richer you get, the greedier you become.
And at a certain point, despite all the money, you lose all your inhibitions and become a soul-less money whore.
And we are talking about a guy who was considered the Chosen One. I am not talking about EA, Activision, UbiSoft and all the other assholes that roam free outside.

"Equality" is against the laws of nature, no societal system will ever change that. Somebody has to be on top, somebody has to be at the bottom.

>>388927264
So like Venezuela where 90% of all rich people don't like having to pay a higher percentage of taxes than everyone else so they end up leaving the country, resulting in an overall lower tax income?

>>388927202
>muh zero sum game
No society that produced any of these researchers or Engineers has been ancap or libertarian. The difference between the not true communism escape clause and the not true capitalism escape clause is that almost true capitalist societies have produced everything we enjoy today while almost true socialist societies have a track record of disaster.

>>388927264
>he still believes in socialism past the age of 14...
Look at him. Look at him and laugh. Free market capitalism is the only way to progress in a modern society.

>>388927320
>If the rich try to leave, they will be stopped and forced to work
>If they try to sell their companies, the government will seize their assets, company and run them instead
>There are no rich or poor, everyone is equal
>There will be a select few people that will be "above" the rest of society if they've earned the right through good deeds and hard work

>>388927381
Sure, why not?

>>388927440
They would be barred from leaving the country. If they did, they would be put back to work or have their assets seized and ran by the government.

>>388927294
here's how the conversation went
>muh free market is gr8
>government tamed private industry
>broof a doodle doo
>internet was made with state funding and oversight
>capitalism made all that money though
but capitalism doesn't equate to free market

>>388927408
Appeal to nature fallacy.

>>388927320

China has seen more new billionaires than any other country in the world recently. Meanwhile the guy who taxed 90% of the richest demo income was fucking Eisenhower during what is considered the golden age of capitalism in the US

>>388927513
not an argument

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>>388927396
I see where you're going with this. I like it.

>>388927538
>Country with highest population has most new billionaires
hmmm

>>388927493
>>There are no rich or poor, everyone is equal

Then who are you going to tax at 90%?

>>388924575
More like
>Trump says something on twitter
>mainstream media and goolag cherrypicks responses to create artificial controversy
>meanwhile actual legitimate problems can't be discussed since everyone in social networks are being de-platformed left and right for wrongthink

>>388927453
The public school system, inherently socialist, has produced the educated populous we have today. Prior to this, science and engineering were a hobby, not an industry.

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>>388927493
wew lad

>>388927616
>Then who are you going to tax at 90%?
Their earnings will be taxed to the point where they are equal to everyone else. There's no need to have so much money.

>>388927646
What's wrong?

>>388927639
Dumbest thing I've read all month, congrats.

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>>388927558
It literally is since you made YOUR own argument invalid through the use of said fallacy.
Your only point was "It wouldn't work because it's not natural DURR HURR".
C'mon, you can do better anon!

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>>388927513

>He actually swallowed the "everyone is special" bluepill

Whats it like to be THAT naive? Who the fuck do you think is going to manufacture the electronics you're posting on for dirt cheap if everyone is equal? Who's going to collect your trash?

>>388927513
equality is not only against nature, it's against reality itself

>>388927639
>Prior to this, science and engineering were a hobby, not an industry.

That "hobby" was supported by patronage from the rich.

>>388927597

Either you use China as an example of overtaxing the rich or you accept it as a haven for new billionaires. It can't be both.

>>388927324
>Soviets invented satellite communication
Through the space race which only occurred because the largest, most powerful Communist state of all time was trying to keep up with the US and after said state began failing those socialist heroes jumped ship at the first chance.

Stifles innovation. We're forced to play the same games forever.

Hell we're still playing Uncharted which hasn't changed its gameplay much at all in 10 years.

Has it ever occurred to communists that maybe there's a reason that you're a peasant and maybe you should stay a peasant?

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>>388927752
I don't support his claims nor do I oppose them.
I merely said that the anon used an appeal to nature fallacy to justify them. You can't do that, it's that simple.

>>388927473
I'd say a healthy mix is required. Plenty of the things that make Western society what it is is only possible due to various socialist measures. Public roads, public schools, firefighters, police, EMTs, etc. would not exist in the same way in a completely capitalist world.

>>388923809
>Cronyism = capitalism
begone with thee kike

>>388927716
The majority of people who can read just like you do so because of public education. It is the single greatest achievement any society has ever produced.
>>388927805
Yes, and the system we have now is strictly superior.

>>388927706
>I want absolutely every one to be poor and eat dirt except for the goverment that has to run it.
Yeah no.

>>388923809
Capitalism is the nigger of economies.

>>388927801
God are all of you middle school dropouts or something? I do not support or oppose his claims, I merely said he was using an appeal to nature fallacy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_nature

>>388927875

>Well its a fallacy :^)

That "fallacy" happens to be entirely correct in this context, though. People aren't equal, they never have been and they never will be.

>>388927875
Why do their bowls have little stools?

>>388927952
I would be the government though.

>>388927321
What if I want to be rich in the future?

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>>388927915
>All the valid criticisms of "capitalism" aren't actually criticism of my ideal, never been tried "true capitalism".

>>388927868

Being a communist is just a political position with no effect on ones ability to train valuable skills. Maybe you'll find this out when you enter the job market.

>>388928037
Except true capitalism has been put in place, and the reason why communism doesn't work is that it is completely incompatible with baser human nature.

>>388928004
That would make you a king and kings are gay

>>388927473
We are not progressing we are regressing. The average north american makes less now than their father's did while prices are twice as much. We're being duped into giving up more of our time and effort for much less than before. You are being scammed out of your life for someone else's benefeit. Not your own. You will never get that time back.

>>388927969
Which is a cop-out non argument. If you have something to say you state your reasoning this isn't some highschool debate class where you can just list off fallacies from a list and expect that to shut down arguments with merit.

>>388928128
I would respect my subjects, providing that they behave.

>>388928114
Define true capitalism. No recent flourishing society has ever been fully and completely capitalist, they have all had plenty of socialist measures put in place.

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>>388927538
>Help I'm from the past and think China's economic policy hasn't changed since Mao reigned.
China is far more ancap than any Western Nation their regulations are lax and easily bribed.

>>388923809
Shit

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>>388928004
Of course you would be the goverment, kid.
That's why you fantasize about socialism,
to be the hero of your delusion.

>>388928302
Kid? I'll have you know that I would be a fine ruler.

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>>388928272
>An ancap economy requires one of the most authoritarian governments in the modern world

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>>388928272
And it sure is working out fucking great.

>>388928263
Nature sucks. More news at 11.

Daily reminder that capitalists are braindead faggots who deserve nothing good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mxp_wgFWQo

>>388928302

It is no different than free market suckers like you thinking they'll be the next Waltons.

>>388928348
It's a mixed system. Most of the big companies are indirectly state owned, but the party doesn't have the resources to oversee most of the economy even if they wanted to do so, so people are pretty free to do whatever the fuck they want.

>>388928164
>"Equality" is against the laws of nature, no societal system will ever change that. Somebody has to be on top, somebody has to be at the bottom.

The only thing the anon said was "It's not natural therefore it doesn't work".
By that logic you wouldn't sit in front of your screen right now. His "argument" has no merit whatsoever.
I know your just trolling but c'mon, your average high school debate is on a higher level than anything on a shitpost anime forum like 4chan.
If you use fallacies you are bound to lose ANY argument.

>>388923890
The freedom to have property and to barter my labor and goods definitely benefits me.

>>388928263
Yes, omnivores will be omnivores, and the little guy is going to suffer no matter what.

>>388923809

You can make profit AND not be a cunt about it. Gabe was always a greedy cunt, he just found out he could show it and not lose any money because everyone is in too deep with Steam already to abandon it. The biggest joke is that for the longest time, people here thought Valve and Habe had their best interest in mind. Remember when you all pitched in to send Gabe a birthday card? Yeah, he smiled and still fucked your wallet anyway.

No corporate fuck is your "friend". Ever. They're in it for the money 100% and they will pretend they care or like games to get you to like them and give them money.

>>388928383
Noam Chomsky is renowned for being a linguist and his opinions on politics are literally pointless and baseless. Either way I don't really view true economic marxists as any kind of real threat, though I wish people would actually go out of their way to ridicule them more. It's just the cultural marxists and the economic marxists that think they're gonna get full-blown socialism if niggers get a little more welfare.

>>388928348
The Chinese government has far fewer regulations in place for Chinese citizen owned and operated businesses than any Western nation. Their government being authoritarian about what it dislikes has no bearing on the free reign it gives to any Chinese citizen attempting what it does or at least doesn't care to stop.

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>>388923809
OP conveniently omits to include the reply to this.

>>388927752
>>He actually swallowed the "everyone is special" bluepill

Everyone IS different, anon. People are not born equal.
But that doesn't mean we can't be polite towards eachother.

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Guys, I-I don't think this thread is about video games.

>>388928565
>It's just the cultural marxists and the economic marxists that think they're gonna get full-blown socialism if niggers get a little more welfare.
What is welfare capitalism? Burgers are just plain retarded for the most part.

>>388928479
Omnivores aren't killed by cholesterol though.

>>388928383
Is that Noam ''republicans are literally worse than hitler'' Chomsky?

>>388923862
He's literally not. How many mod teams get into the work out of the promise of being paid?

They may hope to put it on a resume maybe, but on the short term? No, they did it out of wanting to create something fun.

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>>388928689
>One quote disproves a person

Wait, all of you are literally on the wrong board.
>>>/pol/

>>388928449

>so people are pretty free to do whatever the fuck they want
>In China

The thing about China is that it is the most pragmatic state in the world. It has to feed over a billion people everyday so it'll do whatever foreign capital asks of them to make sure it stays there.

>>388928450
>Equality has never succeeded in any society
>nor has it been achieved by any social group
>nor has it succeeded in any form even in nature
>this makes it an impossible goal
Then you come along with:
>hurr appeal to nature fallacy
You've said nothing to discredit the argument which remains steadfast. It doesn't work on a natural level because base animal instinct is to compete and if something doesn't work with human nature it isn't going to work period.
>inb4 social constructs just need more education to be fixed

>>388928689
Taking things out of context is sure a great way to build up argumentation. Kinda how CNN and other MSM do it, don't they, Shlomo?

>>388927408
Humans have subverted nature to their will that is not the problem. The problem is that having equality is not a state you would want. I wouldn't want to be equal to everyone else, I want to be able to be rewarded for my efforts and that the needs I have that differ from the masses will also be fulfilled.

>>388927996
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy

A fallacy can never be correct by definition.

>>388923890
I grew up middle class and because of smart choices, im in the top 1% of wealth and top 8% of income for people my age.

There was enough socialism to help me out when I needed it. Public schooling, welfare when we need it it. Since then though, capitalism has worked out spectacularly for me.

>>388928576

Nigga the Chinese government will knock on your door with guns to escort you to work if they suspect you're organizing a strike. What about this looks like freedom or even communism to you?

>>388923809
steam is the antithesis of a free market

>>388928732
>>388928796
I just wanted to know if it's the one and only. Don't get triggered now commies.

>>388923809
Children are usually pretty stupid. He was 100% correct. The shitty part was Valve trying to cut in on the action so ruthlessly. I bet if they tried the same thing and modders were allowed to sell their mods at any price they chose and Valve only took like 7%, people wouldn't have cared as much.

>>388928898
Strikes are an attempt for the workers to seize the means of production. You're just supporting my argument that China is a libertarian's paradise not a socialists.

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>>388928578
SHUT IT DOWN

>>388923809
>>388927394
second this
As an accountant I can't fault people for running their businesses properly, but the unfortunate truth is that making the perfect game is not profitable.

Consider Clover studios being closed for under-performing with their games while CAPCOM shills out trash like DmC or RE6. IMO, every clover game was a masterpiece.
Consider Itsuno as the master of making fun action games. DMC3 was a masterpiece. Well he only got to make half of DMC4 because it's all that was in the budget. Same goes for Dragon's Dogma. CAPCOM could easily have afforded to see these games through and created some truly perfect and inspired games. Too bad, they only care about deadlines and the cost of making them.
Same goes for how MGSV ended. To be fair, Kojima really was taking too long and is far from a perfect director.

Notice all the Bamco FROM games feel rushed or unfinished, while the Japan Studios games feel complete and polished. Same developers, different publishers. Coincidence?

These are just a few examples. Of course, some people end up getting what they deserve. For instance, Tim Schafer is a hack who can never keep a cosistent plan, meet deadlines, or stay under budget. Kotick was right to shit all over him.

>>388925305
meme?

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>>388928973
Nigga, it's ruled by the Communist Party of China. How in denial are you?

>>388928852

Do you defend welfare transfers or are you one of them kick-the-ladder, fuck you got mine types though?

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>>388928787
Again, I don't support nor oppose his claims.
I merely pointed out that he was using an appeal to nature fallacy, that's all. You can't do that if you want to be taken seriously.

>Equality has never succeeded in any society
>nor has it been achieved by any social group
>nor has it succeeded in any form even in nature
>this makes it an impossible goal

Yeah, appeal to probability fallacy. Try harder.

>You've said nothing to discredit the argument which remains steadfast. It doesn't work on a natural level because base animal instinct is to compete and if something doesn't work with human nature it isn't going to work period.

Well seeing that he didn't cite studies or anything to support his argument this is an inversion of proff fallacy.

Wow.

>>388927493
>>388927706
there won't be any rich people to tax in that world meaning you won't have any tax money to spend on your welfare programs

rich people are rich because they are smart enough to abuse the systems, if they know that they're gonna get taxed down to what everyone else are earning then they're just simply gonna earn as much as everyone else instead of getting taxed

>>388928846

>Appeals to nature can never be correct

Guess its not a fallacy, then.

>>388929108
*proof

>>388928852
A mixture of different ideas making for a hybrid system would be best. No truly abandoning capitalism but taking it's best traits while removing and replacing the flaws within. There are way, way too many people left behind because they were born in the wrong tax bracket. You got lucky.

>>388929108

>being this retarded

>>388929060
Is the Democratic Republic of the Congo really a "Democratic Republic"?
What about the "Democratic People's Republic of Korea"? I mean it has "Republic" right in the name!
Can't you see, Democracy just doesn't work, look at Congo!

It doesn't matter if equality is attainable is it a desirable state? I think it definitely isn't

>>388929108
>le everything you say is a le fallacy

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>>388929143
You underestimate the extent of human greed. Try reading this thread, you might find some examples.

>>388929096
Defend wealth transfers. Nobody makes it alone. Everyone gets help.

The best combo is a tag team of socialism and capitalism. America is okay at this, but we're moving a bit backwards right now unfortunately. GOP congress is going to cut their nose to spite their face and sabatoge the ACA because they have zero ideas on how to improve healthcare.

>>388929157
Of course the claims could be correct, the argument is always faulty though.

Nice reddit spcing btw.

>>388927264
They leave and the money is gone with all the work they created. Have fun

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>>388928680
neither do they die at the ripe age of 30 because they decided to physically over-exert themselves past the point of getting out of bed and putting their crocs on one fine day

>>388929225
Agree that a mix works the best.

Agree that I am lucky.

>>388927914
Eh I would argue not calling them socialist measures but the result of a democratic government serving it's citizens. Taking away the property of the citizens is not serving them.(but you would call it socialistic)

>>388929108

Did you just join your debate club in high school or something? That's where I learned all that fallacy BS.

You'll soon realize underage, that all logic goes out the window in online arguments.

>>388929253
Lol epic post bro. xDD
I just gave you le reddit gold bro XXD

>>388924336
>has high speed internet
negative, I live in a first world country that limits internet due to monopolies given by state capitalism

>>388928945
Nice projection, nigger.

>>388924336
Internet was started by the us government and countries with government owed internet backbone and strong regulations have faster speeds for cheaper prices though

Retard

>>388929490
Cry some more thieving rat

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>>388929242
>I don't know how to counter that so I just say the anon is retarded

>>388929493
>strong regulations have faster speeds for cheaper prices though
canada charges 60USD for 2mb download speeds

you can get 30x that in california for half the price

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>>388923809
>free market/capitalism

>>388923809
I don't. But the backdrop of what most of these games are developed under isn't exactly even profit driven. It's more of a free market than most things though. The health care industry is the anti-thesis of a free market.

Also, if anyone doesn't understand the reason communism can't work is because it concentrates power. People have to be accountable or else justice, order and fairness can't be maintained.

Actually, Marx knew it would produce the results it would, he designed it to do just the things it did. Stalin was an intended consequence and people saying communism has never really been tried are completely wrong.

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>>388929550
Stop reminding us how bad our dollar is, please.

>>388929378
And how many non-vegans have died on Mount Everest?
By your logic it should be none.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_died_climbing_Mount_Everest

Guess the majority were meat eaters, anon. Try harder.

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>>388929537
You know that thieves usually cry the loudest about robbery, right? Should I remind you, that your capitalist nigger economy is literally built off stealing other countries resources?

>>388929293
This desu

>>388924013
>>388924023
You guys have low standards. Modding communities could grow and become much better if there was a system that properly sustained and encouraged professional developers to participate.

>>388929621
Chill. It's still the world's reserve currency. The dollar is fine.

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>>388929629
>"But you don't understand anon, it's OUR oil, because we were the first ones to get there. Besides the natives."

>>388929293
>sabatoge the ACA
you don't understand what the ACA is. It's a way to force people into the old shitty system that was complete garbage and not free market in any sense of the word. It was a government enforced monopoly, they just made sure you have to participate in the government enforced monopoly now.

Single payer still isn't ideal but it'd be 100x better than the trash that is ACA.

>>388929271
Why would anyone take a salary of 100k when they're gonna get taxed down to 20k when they could just take a salary of 20k and not get taxed at all?
as I said rich people are rich because they're smart enough to abuse systems they're gonna find other ways to get their hands on the money without getting taxed as we can see in the scandinavian countries

if there truly is no way to get your hands on a lot of money without losing them all on taxes then people just simply aren't gonna bother to earn a lot of money which means that there won't be any taxes for the state

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Don't understand why people care about the poor, if doesn't effect me why should I be worried. At the end of the day I want what is best for myself and for the government to stay out of my business. Most philanthropists just have a messiah complex anyway

>>388929046
>every clover game was a masterpiece.
Clover games weren't selling it's no surprise they got shut down.
>Too bad, they only care about deadlines and the cost of making them.
You can't criticise Capcom for letting Clover make great games which failed to sell and then accuse them of not letting devs make great games.
>Same goes for how MGSV ended
That game was massively over budget and past schedule. People cry over the second half but the first was already poorly written, empty and full of filler content. Konami knew they were polishing a turd.
>the Japan Studios games feel complete and polished.
Demon's Souls is missing an archestone and Dark Souls 3 is a complete game. Dark Souls 2' troubled development was at no fault of the publisher.

>>388929629
You mean we are like the vikings robbing and pillaging other nations hahahaha. No the wealth we produce is mostly due to trade, services and technology. And also it doesn't really matter what my economy has done, if my economy does bad things are others entitled to steal from me?

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>>388929821
>trade, services and technology.

>>388929448
>but the result of a democratic government serving it's citizens.

Which is exactly what socialism sets out to do, to have the government in control in order to serve its citizens. I'll agree that it doesn't always work out like that, but the way it's implemented in most Western countries is fairly successful. Going too far either way is most likely not going to work out well for the majority.

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>>388923809

because we are then ruled by the lowest common denominator. When you look at market forces, the largest groups drive work.

What do the largest groups play? Bejeweled, Mobas, Sports titles, CoD.

Valve was known as this plucky little company that did cool things, they made a scientific, physics based fps with a pretty good story.

Years later they added boxes into games that cost money to open, and everyone started inserting their whole paychecks into the boxes.

The lowest common denominator strikes again, they would rather have a "sweeet" looking skin, than a great story, or gameplay experience.

>>388929821
>No the wealth we produce is mostly due to trade, services and technology.

So, much like the Vikings then.

>>388925491
>what is insurance
>blaming capitalism for government's shitty choices

>>388929450
Of course you can't have a solid argument on 4chan, which I said myself
see
>>388928450

However if you're using fallacies you are bound to not be taken seriously in any argument. I'm just trying to help you, that's it.

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>>388929730
>AY YO TYRONE
>WEZ GUNA INVADE THIS COUNTRY TO LIBERATES IT AND LOOT SHIET

>>388929821
>No the wealth we produce is mostly due to trade
This is what niggers believe. O, I am laffin.

>And also it doesn't really matter what my economy has done, if my economy does bad things are others entitled to steal from me?
Where is anyone stealing from you? I do see you stealing from others. How about you return Europe it's gold first off?

>>388929874
I thought socialism was that you confiscate all property so you force people to be equal. Atleast that's what they say when people are talking about ''true'' socialism. If you define it like that sure I have no problem with it.

>>388929889
the real question you should be asking yourself is where do these people get disposable income and why do they have so much of it?

>>388929623
You only count the ones that died and the total sum of those that have attempted the climb and actually made it
How many of them were "healthy" non meat eaters have succeeded reaching the top sustained on nothing but asparagus and universe juice again?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Mount_Everest_records

Nothin personel kiddo

>>388929857
Ehhh I am not american. Don't blame me for your corrupt failure of a democracy.

>>388929740
I'm an actuary at an insurer that sells marketplace plans. I'm pretty sure I know ACA better than anyone else in this thread.

It has dramatically cut uninsured numbers, and most of the people who complain about it never have to interface with the marketplace. Employer subsidized is still the leading source of insurance.

There is no free market solution to affordable healthcare for all. If you want free markets, nut up, repeal EMTALA, and start telling people to go die in the streets because that's the free market solution. ACA isn't as good as single payer, but it was what was politically feasible, then and now.

I like free markets for most things. They don't work for healthcare.

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>>388930054
Don't worry, neither am I.

>>388929964

They aren't saving it. I'm probably the most financially responsible person within every friend group I've had. I ate rice, chicken, and eggs for years. I only ate out if the meal was gonna be less than 10$, i repaired all my shit that broke, I pirated games I wasn't sure I was gonna like, I waited for graphics card prices to come down before buying them.

I have friends who have 0$ to their name, but just spent 20$ on dlc. They assume all that money in their paycheck exists to be spent. "eh, I only have 20$ left on my paycheck after bills, thats not enough to start a savings, might as well buy some keys.... I might even make money if I get an unusual!"

>>388929945
No but it literally is, 80% of my economy is services.

>>388929945
>return Europe it's gold
>it's
>it is
I mean, English is not that hard of a language.

>>388929961
Don't believe everything you read on /pol/, my dude. Or anything, for that matter.

>>388923809
>erasing the reply to gaben's comment

>>388930114
Ah a leaf that explains it.

>>388929961
Well, I'm not advocating for "true" socialism, I don't believe that will work out. I have a certain amount of faith in capitalism, but not a completely unregulated and unrestrained form of it, since then nothing stops the people on the top from fucking everyone else over, which is already happening to an extent the way things are now.

>>388929945
Ehhh I am European. Also Communism is by definition stealing the shit from you and giving it so someone else.

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I don't know why people ITT are pretending that every western economy doesn't have a mix of socialism in it

>>388925654
>Being pro-free market means that you have to be an anarchist n fuck laws n sheiit man.

Cool strawman, bruh.

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>>388929983
You countet only ONE vegan that died while there are hundreds of accounted deaths. So which point are you even trying to make here?

Nothing personal kiddo

>>388929550

We have a regulatory organization for internet and cellphone service. It's stacked with former telecom executives from the big 3 cell service & internet providing companies. It's a fucking crony capitalist clubhouse. They have pretty much let bell rogers and telus run a fucking cartel. And the rest of the goddamn goverment has done nothing to stop it.

That's why we are paying 90 dollars for 5 gigs of data on a cellphone plan, that's why good internet costs upwards of 80 dollars a month.

modding is a hobby mostly done by amateurs. it shouldn't be capitalized on because it's hobbyist work where lots of sharing takes place. it has nothing to do with communism since anyone with a real product would want to sell it and people would pay for it. commie retards need to be gassed

>>388930113
>It has dramatically cut uninsured numbers, and most of the people who complain about it never have to interface with the marketplace. Employer subsidized is still the leading source of insurance.

wow, you basically agree that it's garbage and you SAID it to be me without even realizing it.

Also for future reference: https://surgerycenterok.com/

>>388930257
I agree, no regulation would endanger a democratic nation and therefor bring back something akin to feudalism which is undesirable.

>>388930370
Okay it's been fun, but time for me to go to work, where they pay me hundreds of thousands of dollars for my expertises on this stuff.

>>388930348
So what you're saying is. Government regulation is not the answer.

>>388930143
>80% of my economy is services.
What sort of services? And why do you think that they're actually needed services?

>>388930172
>mistakes happen
Who would've thunk.

>>388930260
>Ehhh I am European.
That doesn't change the economic situation whatsoever.

>Also Communism is by definition stealing the shit from you and giving it so someone else.
What's it like pulling shit from your ass and pretending you know what the fuck you're talking about?

>>388930529
they pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars to rape people? what's new. that's pretty much what's been happening to society for the last 30 years or so.

>>388924418
>Cars, disease and murder, exclusive to capitalism
You must live under a rock

>>388930326
free market capitalism is as imaginary as "real communism". there's always a balance with socialism

>>388930552
>government regulation is the only thing keeping cell phone companies from assfucking you with fees even more
>but government regulation is not the answer

>>388929479

Nigga Telecom services are natural monopolies in the entire world except for sense urban areas where it makes sense for companies to compete. Don't blame the government if you're getting ripped off by Comcast by living in the middle of nowhere.

>>388930376
Most such forms of regulation are socialist in nature. Child labor laws, consumer protection laws, unemployment insurance, mandatory schooling, banking regulations. They were even criticized as such when they came into being.

>>388928383
You can't have capitalism and democracy.... Wel the thing you do is establish a democracy and allow people to have property and to trade and sell that property and labor. TADA wow look I just made a capitalist democracy.

>DURRR MONEY IS HOW WORK IS MADE
>Soviet Union funded Tarkovsky and other filmakers/playwrights

>>388930645
>>>/pol/
I think all of you took a wrong turn.

>>388930645
>Government regulation has failed to the point those you want regulated are in control
>the solution is clearly more regulations surely they won't just use their billions to co-opt that too!

>>388930340
that's because the other vegans despite the lack of protein feeding their brain knew their limitations and they never tried to climb Everest , prove me wrong slick

>>388930552

Or you could do a more sensible thing and not let regulatory capture happen instead of letting companies have free reign without a middleman.

>>388930673
Eh than I guess it's a semantic problem. When people rave to me about ''true'' socialism they essentially talk about communism were big daddy takes everything and turns your life to shit.

>>388930645
yea, except the government gave cell phone companies their shit in the form of easements and eminent domain so it's actually insane that they "own" anything since that land was supposedly taken for the public good and that land should be operated on the basis that the government lends it to specific bidders for operation and maintenance.

>>388930761
Ya lets just do the more sensible thing and like, end wars and shit, and world hunger and violence.

>>388930734
>>>/biz/
>>>/lit/
>>>/sci/
Try these boards. People are usually not /b/ or /pol/ tier retarded on there.

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>>388930690
>DURRR MONEY ISN'T HOW WORK IS MADE
>Soviet Union collapsed

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>>388930834
But... there's no games.

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>>388930676
I see thinking isn't your strong point.

>>388923809
>5000 downvotes

socialism was a mistake, we must go back and stop it from existing.

>>388930815

You think outlawing regulatory capture is as hard as ending all wars? Jesus.

It's not fucking rocket science, dude. Just don't let private sector tycoons become agency directors.

>>388930865
>le historic revisionism meme

>>388930761
Yeah let's just do the sensible thing and embrace true Communism and not make it fail through collective greed.

>>388923809
>Why do so many gamers hate free market/capitalism?

The said thing about what gabe said is not entirely wrong as long as one were to change the word money to profit. Since everyone seeks to get something out of work no exceptions. Be it praise, cash, boosting ones portfolio for later work, or even just to make something exist for the sake of existing as in passion projects.

So yeah everyone seeks some sort of profit. Not always monetary though.

>>388930865
Soviet Union collapsed when introducing capitalist like elements in the 80's and 90's. Also

>that fucking quote
I really think you or that fucking neo liberal witch don't know what socialism is.

>>388929795
My entire point was they stopped letting them make great games because it isn't profitable. Of course it's no surprise they got shut down. I even said I don't blame them from running their businesses properly like businesses. I never criticized them for letting Clover make great games, I praised them for it and called the games masterpieces. At one time they were about making great games. Now they are all about riding out on brand loyalty and screwing over fans who expect them to handle their IP properly. They don't even listen to what their fans want, if MML3 is any indication.

I agree about MGSV, the point is the entire clash with Kojima was about money and how the bottom line was conflicting with his creative vision. He's a hack, but it's still a common tale in this industry.

I just think that the modern business institution has failed video games. It is impossible for them to exist without it, though. I can't even count the number of people I know who actually think Mass Effect Andromeda or Dragon Age Inquisition are good games. This is the bullshit people want, not quality.

>>388930950
Yeah.

People with money are the main factor in who gets elected.
People who get elected are the main ones in charge of letting that happen.
Thus people with money are the ones regulating the people with money in this system.

So where can it change?

>>388923809
Capitalism a shit
Communism a shit

>>388931002
see >>388926705 and >>388927202.

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ITT: Americans don't know what "socialism" is.

>>388931103

i want a government so small you cant even see it

>>388930750
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25369930
This article is about vegans as well as vegetarians despite the name.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27763537
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4073139/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/

Protein deficiency appears only with too low of a calorie intake. It is virtually impossible to have those symptoms in 1st world countries.
Took me all the 5 minutes to find.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20691952

>>388930908
There's no games here either unless it's shilled

>>388930834
Sadly not much to discuss there.
If you try explaining the outrage and situation to any other industry the response you get will either be
>yeah obviously it works like that how is it any different for X
or
>TLDR

Like seriously, try to explain people getting upset over optional charges for optional additional content, the people there don't have the "cultural" background of modding being free, at best they will equate it to free mixtapes and then go "but if the dude gets popular enough obviously his allowed sell his shit"

>>388931002
See >>388930950

I have to wonder. If telcos use their money and influence to rig the system against the consumer now, what do idiots like you expect to happen without any regulation whatsoever? I thought Enron would have taught you to know better.

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>>388930865
>>388931074
Actually even before that, we started integrating capitalist memes into things ever since Stalin's death. And whilst they actually benefited us in short term solutions, in some spheres, they were overall damaging our economy in the long run. Kinda like how you see with the US today struggling to keep it's economy afloat by constantly trying to stir shit up somewhere.

>>388923809
They mistake the "free" in free market as meaning they are entitled free shit.

>>388930750
Btw protein isn't exactly "food for your brain". That's carbs. Your brain runs on gulcose. Get an education before wasting more time on an anime shitpost forum, kiddo.

>>388930913
So are you saying that it is impossible to have a democracy and there being property and the ability to trade labor and property?

>>388931074
It began implementing those changes as a last ditch effort to save itself from bankruptcy and social upheaval. You can't honestly believe it was all hunky dory until Gorbachev took power.

>>388923809
Hes not wrong. I used to make mods for TES/Source years ago and now that I have a fulltime job I just dont have the time. If I ever wanted to get back into content creation as a modder you have to be a child or an adult who doesnt work a normal 9-5.

>>388931153
The threads about this on /pol/ were so fucking hilarious

>cops do shit like this every day
>"BLUE LIVES MATTER! YOU DON'T LIKE COPS! FUCKING COMMIE!"
>a black cop does this one day
>"FUCKING NIGGERS THIS IS PROOF THAT WE NEED TO EXTERMINATE ALL OF THEM DAY OF THE ROPE WHEN"

>>388931301
That's why it says food not fuel.

>>388931153
Cop obviously just had some race shooting quotas to fill. Not his fault.

>>388925253
if you are easily replaceable by a bunch of bangladeshi children then you're lucky to even have a job with such low skills, but remember comrade, it's never your fault, it's always the ebil, filthy rich!!!!!!

>>388931306
In true CAPITALISM™? Yes. This is why all countries, even those that scream capitalism, are still a mix of Socialism and Capitalism.

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>>388931354
>food
Fuck man, you're gonna trigger the commies.

>>388931153
>it was a white person
And nothing of importance was lost.

>>388931324
Nope, it started after Stalin and Khrushchev left. Stalin was a mass murderer, but he honestly has to be one of the most successful leaders in modern times, transforming a country with an primary agrarian industry into an industrial on in the span of ten years

>>388931212
Yeah. Just wanted to show you that shitposting is not all there is to 4chan. There are indeed some educated people around, just not those really popular boards, sadly.

>>388924023
The only reason I didnt charge for my mods was because legally I could not. Now I can and Ill be needing a dollar.

I don't, that's why I pirate.
Capitalists are mad at me because they can't handle free markets.

>>388931074
Na SU collapsed because by accident some government official said the borders were open. Almost everyone left the hellhole and boom.

>>388931331

Thats a very reductive argument, I'd support a cop who gunned down someone pretending they had a gun they were about to use on said cop any day, but I probably wouldn't support one who gunned down an unarmed woman in her pyjamas.

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>>388931454
>shitposting is not all there is to 4chan
Why bother?

>>388931484
Why do you lie?

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Lets see how many years capitalism lasts with AI and automation.
The era of neets is about to begin

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>>388931191
those are all nice but i'm still waiting on the one were those vegans reached the top of mountain Everest (alive)
how about a little snack while i wait?

>>388931535
No, I meant cops do the same shit that somali did on a frequent basis

>>388931354
"Food for your brain" equates to "Fuel for your brain". Doesn't it?
If not what did you mean by that?

In case you missed my other post. Might help you out to have a look at some real medical studies.
>>388931191

>>388923809
Because it came there uninvited and was forced in by the already beyond wealthy to earn even more.

>>388929678
Like $2.50 for a pipboy reskin?

>>388931554
Do you have any arguments?

>>388927321
except the defense of capitalism COMES from the idea of the average joe being able to become a bill gates if he wants to, unless you're one of those economically illiterate individuals that thinks the moment the economy is free all hell will break lose and there'll magically be monopolies with power comparable to a state
odd how an site and board that are the direct result of free market capitalism spit on the plate they eat but complain when google does the exact shit they defend

>>388931234
>Telecom regulations exist only to convince the populace that the government has their back
>but just imagine a world without our fake regulations wouldn't it be spooky if there were no telecom regulations looking out for you?

>>388931405

Man sometimes I don't know which side are you people on. I thought Trump was voted in to protect American Jobs from offshoring, what does the right even want?

>>388931480
Capitalism is ok as long as the people supporting it are making a profit, as soon as they start losing money they will claim government intervention is needed lmao

>>388923862
then explain how games like Morrowind and Oblivion, or even the original DOOM, god thousands of mods, custom maps, etc... despite not a single dollar involved in the process.
It's all a symptom of videogames turning from a hobby into a market and once again we can thank minorities and women for that.

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shit thread

>>388931667
You provided that "fact", give me proof

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>>388931570
This is something that I've been wondering.
>companies constantly cut expanditures by replacing workers with machines
>fewer people have work and can afford to buy shit
>companies now can't make a profit because people don't have work and can't afford anything
WAT DO?

>>388928002
Extra stability

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>>388927915

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>company releases poisonous product
>a million people die
How would the free market revive those people

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>>388924418
>communism makes people immortal

>>388931570
>>388931751
Minimum wage.

>small businesses die out
>larger businesses result to other alternatives

>>388923914
>>388924013
>>388924023
>>388928707
these responses are completely pathetic. I hope you are under 20, where your ignorance and stupidity is borderline reasonable because you're probably still growing up.

just because you put an artificial gate on the system where steering via money is made impossible doesn't mean that the principle isn't 100% correct. just imagine what will happen the second a high quality mod is allowed to sell their product, while some shitty reskin mod does the same: tons of people will buy the good mod while ignoring the shit mod, giving the good modders money to continue their work and hire people and make better and bigger mods, therefor being steered by the money.

it's a nearly trivial concept, but I'm not surprised it would go over the heads of average 4chan posters with an iq of 90

>>388931603
>mountain Everest

So medical peer reviewed studies are merely "nice" but since one vegan women died while climbing Mount Everest (where 200+ meat eaters died as well, as previously pointed out) you are not going to accept them as fact?