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SECRET OF MANA REMAKE SONY WINS AGAIN

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SECRET OF MANA REMAKE

SONY WINS AGAIN
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UMA
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>>388180616

I'd rather not have normies play Seiken Densetsu 2, Seiken Densetsu 3 is what created many more kemono (furries)
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Silence brazil monkey.
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>>388180616

>Not a Legend of Dragoon remake
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>>388180616
>Remake

More like a half assed snes port of the original.
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>>388180616
>REMAKE
I don't habeeb you

enjoy your port
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>>388180802

AAAAAAAH
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>>388180616
>Remaking the worst game in the franchise
Tell me when pic or SD3 get remade.
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>>388180910

legend of mana is the fucking worst one dicknose.
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>>388180616
wtf I hate Secret of Mana now
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>>388180910
>being this much of a nigger
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>>388180950
Thats a funny way to spell Children on Mana
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>>388180910
the ost alone makes it goat
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>>388180884
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>>388180802

My erection would blow my pants off if they remade LoD with upgraded graphics and shit. Maybe sprinkle some new items and whatnot around in there. I'm getting a boner thinking about it right now.
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>>388181078

Well Sony did say they want to revisit their old RPG IPs recently. There's always hope for a remake or sequel.
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>>388180616
>A legendary RPG returns. Secret of Mana coming to PS4 and PS Vita on February 15, 2018
It's just a port, if they had Secret of Mana: Director's Cut, it wouldn't just be a Facebook post.
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>Secret of Mana was originally supposed to be a Nintendo Playstation game
>now it's being remade for a PlayStation system
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>>388180950
>>388180975
Why would you admit your taste is trash like that?
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Duda Bubu
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>No actual source
Thanks for nothing
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>>388180759
That's not portuguese
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>>388181312
sup Chumpy
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>The caption reads: โ€œA legendary RPG returns. Secret of Mana comes to PS4 and PS Vita on February 15, 2018. http://play.st/2ivxbhh.โ€
>The link in the caption redirects to the PlayStation Blog LATAM, and the URL contains โ€œel-remake-en-3d,โ€ suggesting it is a 3D remake rather than a port. Unfortunately, the post itself either is not live or was live and has been taken down.
>Unless the PlayStation Latin America Facebook page was hacked, it seems likely that this is a real announcement that was posted prematurely. But until anything is confirmed, we suggest remaining skeptical.
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>>388181312

you know how i can tell you are a brainlet

Legend of mana was only praised for its grafics only but everything else was garbage and was considered the WORST in the series that's why its a spin off.
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>>388180616

I've always loved that concept art
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>>388180910
I never thought I would find another man of True Taste
https://youtu.be/FfDgf6BVlgs?list=PLHrCw6b2nKrKkKg3c79TyHD0hImwEPvsE

I don't think it needs a remake, however. It ABSOLUTELY must stay a 2d game.
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>>388180616
DELICIA
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https://youtu.be/30gD2GtLf7o

Maybe they'll even make it as good as the SD iOS remake!
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>>388180616
This game is shit by today's standards. The only buyers will be nostalgiafags.
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>>388180616

Didn't they make a phone version with slightly updated graphics? It's probably just that.
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>>388180616
>HL died
>Secret of Mana remake
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>>388181437
>Call someone else a brainlet
>Grammar errors and misspellings everywhere.
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Who says it's a remake? If it's coming out on PSP then it's just going to be a shitty port
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>>388181437
>Legend of mana was only praised for its grafics
Plan on killing yourself if you haven't yet. Set a goal. Shoot for right now.
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>>388181447
>These arrangements
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>>388181592
Didn't they made a collection to Switch?

That seems weird as fuck.
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>>388180802
What would you give up for this?
First born can fuck off for this I can always have another.
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>>388181486

FFA was hands-down my favorite GB game and I thought Sword of Mana was an okay remake but man this looks awful.
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>>388180616
>A Legendary RPG returns. Secret of Mana is coming to PS4 and PS Vita in February 15 2018.

Nothing in this tweet suggest it's a remake
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WOW now this is going to sell some PS4s!
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>>388182024
read >>388181431
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>>388182024

It's a mobile remake, garbage.
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>>388180616
DES
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>>388180910
Disgusting
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>>388182126
>>388182190

page is down now so I'm going to take >>388181431 word on it.
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>>388181312

The graphics for this game look amazing. I only ever played the one GBC and SNES game.
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>>388180616
>3D

Into the trash
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>>388180802
Mediocre game, I'll never get why /v/ sucks its dick.
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>>388180616
That's so console with more remakes than games.
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I hope they add hitstun
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>>388182512

Look at all the final fantasy "remakes" absolute mobile turds.

Don't expect anything good to from from squeenix.
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http://gematsu.com/2017/08/rumor-secret-mana-remake-ps4-ps-vita-announcement-leaked
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It's obviously a port or a remaster.
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>>388180804
>More like a half assed port of the ios port of the original.
Fixed.

Also, if it's anything like Adventures of Mana, then you fags don't fucking want it.
>everything looks like babby's first unity project
>everything runs at least 50% slower (intentionally)
>everything is now half as strong as it was in the original GB release
>even the music sounds worse than other official arrangments
What's the fucking point? Obviously it was made for mobile casuals, but it's fucking terrible
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>>388182607
>Pretending to post the wrong wojak so you can shitpost about being a false-flagger
It's gone way too far.
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>>388182603

Because some people like and enjoy things different from you.

FUCKING NERD.
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>>388180910
>yfw the whole game is a collection of dreams of the dying mana tree
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>>388180616
Holy fuck what a day
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>>388182795

Just because you played it when you had a small baby dick doesn't mean its a good game, you are just blinded by nostalgia.

I bet you think Jade Cocoon was DA BEST GAME EVAR!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LXRCiKh78
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They should use this for the ost
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FNBH9P3Aes
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>>388180616
It's chibi trash and looks like a mobile game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LXRCiKh78
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A tweet about it is up on Square's twitter.
https://twitter.com/SQUARE_ENIX_EU/status/900976046110932993
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so i was right, it was mobile garbage

told ya so
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>>388180910
I just came here to agree with you.
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>>388180616
If it's as "good" as the Sword of Mana remake Squeenix can eat a dick.
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>>388180616
>sony wins
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>>388183109

They shouldn't have fucked over Sony.

Get the medicine in the mouth hole for being greedy little nips.
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Looks like
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>>388180910
brainlets and manbabbies weaned on gaylo can't appreciate it like
>>388180950
>>388180975
>>388182374

no point to remake.
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>>388183217
Is.. that the original sprite map as a Minimap?
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>>388183137
Fuck you, I wanted to believe
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Am I the only one that didn't like SD3 because the combat felt sluggish compared to SoM?
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>not translating/remaking Seiken Densetsu 3
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>>388183342

It's already translated dummy.
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>>388180616
Is it just going to be turned into another action rpg like Kingdom Hearts or FF15?
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>>388183217
No, this isn't true right? It's still the original beautiful spritework right, this is just a joke, right?
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE
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>>388180616
Online co op confirmed?
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>>388182931
Wow, seeing this, I'm kinda glad they've never remade Xenogears.
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>>388183419

and here I was thinking that the most important part of a game is the gameplay and not graphics

silly me

what a shallow person you are
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>>388180616
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nv4rUFFm8ss
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>Japanese trailer PS4, PSVita, Steam.
>English trailer PS4, PSVita, SquarEnix

Hmmm...
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>>388180616
Considering how the Final Fantasy Adventure Vita remake turned out I'm skeptical about this. Honestly Squeenix's track record for remaking shit has been really bad lately, I don't trust them at all to do Secret of Mana justice.
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>>388183419
they already did SD1 and it was polygons dude
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9LXRCiKh78
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>>388183323
Wanted to believe what? That's real.
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I hope they remake 3 anyway, it will spawn more sindoll doujins
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>>388183497
Well fuck you too for tolerating that eye cancer. It may not be the most important thing about the game, but definitely a big part of what made it so much enjoyable, and if you say graphics don't matter at all, you are wrong. Fuck SE.
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>>388183639
My bad, I thought the "Steam" was photoshopped because I first saw the english trailer published by Sony, which doesn't show the Steam logo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKHjcnOGPhs
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LOL
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>>388183280
Dont think so, the trees look different
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>>388183535
Weird. I guess they're trying to make PC gaming more relevant in Japan again.
Hope it won't be a shitty port like most Jap PC games.
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>Cute
>Saddest story of them all
>Not made for fuck
>best main
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>>388183774
you know you want it
damn furry
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>>388183774
>They turned the actual armors from that one town into costumes
I.. I'm okay with this.
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>mfw I feel compelled to buy it anyways

also Secret of Evermore remake when?
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>>388183774
>tiger suits
WHICH WAS OBTAINABLE IN SNES VERSION JUST IN GAME!
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Literally better than anything Mana related in more than a fucking decade. And its on mobile.
What the fuck is Squeenix doing?
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>>388183342
>people still want that garbage
Unless they completely overhaul the battle system, there is no reason to translate or remake that game. Seriously some the worst gameplay I have witnessed in a long time. I'm currently at the last battle against the Dragon Emperor. Why am I still playing this shit?
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>>388180910
>Godlike OST
>Good graphics
>Funny characters
>Shitty gameplay
When you realize how broken is to not follow up combos and just do the first attack over and over, gameplay goes to shit
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At this point. Why didn't they just port the collection that they made for the Switch?
Would anyone honestly prefer this remake over it?
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>>388183104
You forgot the mobile port for Japanese dumbphones about a decade and a half ago.
I don't blame you, I could never find good pics of it either which weren't JPEG'd to shit.
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>>388183865
plus best theme
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>>388183989
Because Angela's Light Tech 2.
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never played this

just came to saw Ryuichi Sakamoto is the best composer ever

from dawn of mana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDbxqrcxSkk
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>>388180802
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>>388184041
please tell me this doesn't play like adventures of mana
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>>388183983
>premium money and energy system
No, fuck you, and fuck Brownies.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFCphZs3YQ0

>VOICE ACTING

NO
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>>388182917
I played it in 2013, nostalgia has nothing to do with it, the game is just good faggot.
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>>388184041
>literally took their models from Rise of Mana
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>>388183826

Its probably going to come to mobile as well so it wont be hard to play
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>>388180616
*Also available on PC
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>>388184134

>I played it in 2013

so confirmed for fagget with shit taste, go join the pozz line over there little queer boi
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>>388180759
Make soup out of him
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JP special edition
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>>388181691
How bout your balls?
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>>388184113
>energy system
Did we play the same thing?
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Waiting for confirmation it'll come to PC in english too and not just japanese
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>>388184118
>King Truffle hanging on for dear life.

Okay, I chuckled.
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>>388184289
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFCphZs3YQ0

here's your fucking confirmation.
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>>388184102
No video yet
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>>388183109
It's already on Switch though, just not overseas.
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>>388184178
I expect them to remove their other mobile version as well.
>>388184135
So you noticed it, too.
>tfw that dope ass revamp of rising sun was taken off of youtube
Literally the one good thing about the game, and I didn't save it.
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>>388180759
Are you false flagging murricans anon?
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>Pre-order to get some fursuit DLC

They know their audience, don't they?
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>>388184367
Kiss me
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>>388184428

duh SK3 started the whole human on furries.
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>>388184428
>Put it on only when you actually get the armor.
I'm okay with this still.
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>>388184374
the map kind of looks like the snes version of the game
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>>388184224
>doesn't like LoD
>says other people have shit taste
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>>388182931
>>388183073
>>388183217
>>388183774
fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU
HOW COULD THEY RAPE SUCH TIMELESS 90s ARTWORK WITH THIS REVOLTING UGUU CRAP?!
The 21st century was a god damned mistake.
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>>388184382
>tfw M2 will never bring it overseas so we can play SD3 without bugs on the go
I used to believe in you, ya fuckers.
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Guess I'll try Adventures of Mana on bluestacks to see what to expect
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>>388181437
You gon get shit from everybody, but I'm going to agree with you on legend of mana.
It's got pretty good graphics for a 2d game and the soundtrack is great, but the game itself is buggy and slapdash.
Combat is incredibly shallow with a few combinations on each weapon decimating everything, the last point also means there's little or no challenge whatsoever even against bosses, usefulness of magic is in the dumpster.
Growing fruit is tedious, and because the map system and the triggers for events are bugged up to shit good luck not fucking up any characters routes and getting the default ending areas.
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>>388184501
Thats because it is. Its straight ripped from it.
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>Switch Collection - no western release, no LoM
>Still no official SoM2/SD3 western release
>SoM on SNES Classic
>Still no release of what would have been the Nintendo PlayStation version/Director's cut
>This abomination
My once favourite franchise, and nobody has a fucking clue what to do with it. It hurts /v/ros
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>>388184525

anon where the fuck were you when they raped ever FF game and made it into shitty iphone ports.

This is what Squeenix does, i can't wait till FF7 remake comes out and people kill themselves over it.
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>>388180950
I could smell the shit in your taste before I even finished reading your post.
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>>388184010
Yes? You can emulate the games from the collection.
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>>388184525
see >>388184135

The overworld looks decent, unlike SD1's, but it's blatantly obvious by the texture resolution that it was originally made for mobile and they just ported it over for extra bucks.
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>>388180910
Shimomura would still be shit tier if not for that soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnzJBVg5uwQ
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>>388184597
Do yourself a favor and don't.
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>>388183741
Well it did not for me, I played for the gameplay and story. Do you honestly expect Square Enix to do fucking sprite work? It looks fine from 2d to 3d transition the original game had a cartoony look to it with bright colors as well.
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>>388180616
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Only one thing I hope for. Fast Cast. All I want.
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>>388184629
>/v/ros
Choke on your wife's son's father's salty black dick.
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Is there literally any reason that this game is releasing on Vita and not Switch other than that Sony is paying Square to specifically not release it on switch?
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>>388180616
wtf I love Sony now

>>388183507
Pic related
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>>388184830
Is that bad? I'm really happy that most nihon games are ported on pc now, especially old ones.
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>>388184521
It's alright.. I don't think it would hold up today though.
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>>388184648
Exactly this
I can't figure out why people are excited for remakes anymore when the majority of them have all been bad.
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>>388184113
>premium money
Wrong
>energy system
Wrong

A premium title with no in-app purchases? Thats a full game, anon, don't let the platform fool you.
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>>388180718
Don't worry, discussion about games only turns to shit when they come to Personal Com... >>388183535 Uh oh
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>>388183774
DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW!

FUCKING ZIPPERHEADS
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http://www.romhacking.net/forum/index.php?topic=20093.0
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>>388184843
Fuck that, just give me real-time casting.
Actually, fuck that too, just give me a new Crystal Chronicles that doesn't rely on fucking two-screen bullshit.
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>No Switch
how DARE you take our game, Sony
You will answer for this.
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>>388185028
Apple took your game years ago, flamebait.
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>>388185028
it is strange isn't it. Switch even got Setsuna. What an arbitrary game to have exclusivity on
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WHERE THE FUCKING FUCKING FUCK IS SECRET OF MANA 3 REMADE

YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKERS

KEVIN DARK SIDE BEST BOY EASY MODE

Also the SD3 OCRemix album still hasn't been released.

In limbo since 2007

http://ocremix.org/community/topic/10050-seiken-densetsu-3-2020-here-we-come/


Fuck those guys too
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>I will restore you.
>Do you want to save your game?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cce28S6ht3I
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>>388185197

because furries like yourself don't deserve nice things.
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>>388185197
>expecting those hipsters to actually play something that isn't on their fashion statement
Get real.
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>>388184648
Oh I know it.
But SoM's art style was something else entirely. Whereas FF games were mostly narrative-based, SoM thrived off its atmosphere, which just makes its desecration even more harrowing.
Not that I give a crap, mind you, because just like Hollywood remakes are the last thing vidya needs in a creative dryspell that humps the corpses of what it can't produce.
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>>388180910
>>388183086
>>388181312
>Legend of Mana remake
>All the amazing art is gone
>Mobile game low poly models and low res textures take its' place.
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>Secret of Mana is ok
>Chrono Trigger is not

Don't get me wrong, SoM is amazing. But why never is CT?
CT will be next, right?
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>>388185197
They would just end up fixing Kevin. No one wants that. The old games are fun because they're so broken.
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>>388185423
Chrono Trigger is already on the App Store.
Guess they realized that they can't improve perfection.
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>>388185463
> The old games are fun because they're so broken.
I had neve understand this kind of people. Yes, sometimes it's can be fun to just enable godmode and run through as badass terminator. Or to look at some secret areas with noclip/tcl. But in usual gameplay something broken removes even that small challenge, that this games can bring.
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>>388184525
Looks like a translation of the character sprites into modern 3D models to me. Sure it's not the classic art, but nothing other than fucking Sonic Mania adheres to that for nostalgia; the character designs seem accurate to a T nonetheless.
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>>388180616
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>>388185423
CT was a once-in-a-lifetime happening where 3 industry giants got drunk on a plane trip to SIGGRAPH, got equally drunk in their bosses offices after, and convinced them to fund a collab fueled by a bunch of bright young upstarts who all turned out to be geniuses.

It will never happen again.
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>>388184271
When's the preorder?
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>>388185423
"Shut the fuck up and get in the abuse line with me and Bushido Blade."
Also, you fags got Setsuna which was garbage, but you idiots slobbed its knob like the cheap whores you are, so quit bitching.
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>>388185197

SK3 was largely ignored and almost forgotten because it wasn't translated.

I don't get why faggets now aren't playing it now. its been translated since 2000
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>>388185619
>I had neve understand this kind of people
That's because you're a brainlet.
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>>388181414
Even if it was, Brazil didn't invent Portuguese.

Also Portuguese fucking sucks.
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*And PC
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>>388185617
Makes sense.

>>388185736
Makes even more sense, fuck, you guys are smart.

>>388185786
I am not one of them. And Bushido Blade sucks.
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>>388185619
Tell that to fags who obsess over FF3u, and hate every other version because they can't use their precious WindGodGau and Psycho Cyan.
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>>388182190
They did a mobile remake a decade ago. Literally, its on ios and android already and is actually really fucking good compared to SE's other mobile ports.
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>>388186012
>no multiplayer
Nah.
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Secret of Mana is FUCKING garbage. I will never understand how people love such a dull, uninspired arpg.
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At least this version will probably fix the butchered and rushed localization of the original
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>>388180616
It looks fucking horrible
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>Getting a Vita version
>no Switch
Loving every laugh
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>Had the official strategy guide that could also be read like a story book
>Read that shit all the time, it was great
>Forever lost
I love this game.
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>>388185740
Looks like it's a SquareEnix store exclusive.
http://store.jp.square-enix.com/item/SE_E0845.html
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>>388186069
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>>388183073
I don't mind the switch to 3D, but is it so hard to have an actual art style? All these games look the same today.
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>>388180616
>sony wins again
also on steam, sweetie
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>>388186094

I'd rather the use the fan translations even if its plagiarism.
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>>388185380
Legend of Mana was doing sick shit visually.
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>>388186069
Nostalgia. Also, it was novel for the time.
A buddy of mine and I agree that its not that well execute though, and Crystal Chronicles is basically what it could have been without player and enemy spells stopping the action every 2 seconds and no need to rely on long ass weapon charges (even evermore knew this shit was dumb and capped it at 3 charge levels)
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>>388186114
Don't even want it
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>>388186163

Popoi and Charlotte are the only good things to come out of SoM
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Sweet, I liked the Adventure of Mana remake. Now just do SD3.
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>>388185905
Please be baiting
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>>388185786
Setsuna was just a basic JRPG.
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>>388180718
Kemonomimi doesn't mean furry you weeb dipshit. Do you even know what Seiken Densetsu ACTUALLY translates to?? Shut the fuck up and speak english if no.
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wheres the switch support?
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>>388186365
Brazil didn't invent Portuguese you fucking autistic monkey
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>>388186474
then why is it called Portuguese?
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>>388180616
Also coming to steam.
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>>388184923
It's good but it's always funny when people post the Playstation announcements or trailers that never mention Steam. Then you wait for the trailer or press release from the actual publisher and it says Steam.
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>>388180718
Isn't kemona the term for furfags themselves?

>>388186406
kemonomimi โ‰  kemono
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>>388186529
Portugal. Dumbass
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>>388186557
Kemono
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>>388186376
Then they should have stopped advertising it as "AWW SHIT GUIZE IT'S LIKE THE NEXT CHRONO TRIGGER YOU NIGGERS"
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>>388183774
Wait, were those their names?

Wtf
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>>388186557
"Kemono" means "animal, beast" in it's default meaning as translation form nihongo. So SOMEONE might call furries with this word.
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>>388184118
That looks like shit, holy fuck.

Why would you remake something if you don't arse to put any effort into graphics
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>>388184884
This is the exact image I think of this song. Also that hard snare drum.
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>>388180802
Seizure warning. Geez
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>>388180696
That's Italian
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>>388186807
Yeah, but isn't Trigger also quite a basic JRPG, though? It resonated with people for other reasons and not really mechanical complexity or anything like that.
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I played secret of mana with a friend not to long ago, Im honestly hyped
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>>388186909
Originally, no. They just sorta became official over time.
It was something that started in either Square's JP manual or some magazine (probably fucking Famitsu), and by SD3 and Legend, Square basically said "Sure, whatever." and went with it.

This has happened at least a few other times with other games.
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>>388187090

Did you find out where his secret mana came from anon ;3c
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>>388186913
I know what it literally is, but as far as I know it is regularly used as a term for furshit there. Such as ใ‚ฑใƒขใƒŽ being used as the tag for it on pixiv.

I do have weeb level knowledge though, so excuse me if I'm wrong.
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>>388186961
>square
>effort
GOOD ONE, ANON. You wacky funster!
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>>388183774
>Tiger stripes bikini

Somebody's going to write and article bitching about that.
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>being excited for a remake

thanks for helping to ruin videogames ya faggot
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>>388187027
Shut the fuck up, faggot.
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>>388180910
It has better combat that Secret of Mana.
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>>388187191
>dat feel when there was a time Squaresoft could no wrong on SNES and PS1
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>>388187148
Back of the knee.
>>388187047
Storytelling and secrets, especially the secrets. Finally being able to open those fucking black chests was a goddamn in-game christmas. Even more so if you knew the secret to NOT opening them.
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>>388187331
Wada's gone anon. He can't hurt us anymore
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>>388180616
It looks really bad
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>>388187130
The little Sprite/Kobold/Goblin will always be Stinky to me
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>>388184614
every mana game has completely broken combat though
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>>388184135
I thought I was the only person who played RoM outside of JP...
Honestly, Oyamada made it clear that there will be SD1, SD2 and SD3 remakes YEARS ago:
http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/30/rise-mana-producer-wants-release-next-major-mana-game-two-years/
>โ€œThe Mana series are titles that arenโ€™t readily available on current consoles,โ€ starts Oyamada. โ€œEspecially Seiken Densetsu 3, which was only available on the Super Famicom. Therefore, Iโ€™d like to make Seiken Densetsu: Final Fantasy Gaiden*, Seiken Densetsu 2*, and Seiken Densetsu 3 as a series that can be properly played, and in two years time Iโ€™d like to release Seiken Densetsu 5.
Expect SD3 remake soon, and then SD5 on PS4/PS5.
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>>388187331
You were a blind idiot like most of us. Square was doing wrong all the time by not doing overseas releases of Final Fantasy Extreme (FF5 but advertised as being "harder"), Secret of Mana 2 (SD3), and Hanjuku Hero, but that's just me being a faggot.
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Never knew if the third character was a boy or a girl.
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>>388180802
Legend of Dragoon Remake + SEQUEL. JESUS PLEASE SONY, BE BASED JUST FOR ONE TIME BEFORE I DIE.
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>>388187303
>can only attack left/right
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>>388187530

popoi was a boi

please don't molest
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>>388184680
And? It's more than possible to emulate Final Fantasy 5. That still doesn't mean I'd choose to play the Steam/Android remake over the alternatives.
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are there any Mana bros here that consider Ever Oasis to be a good spiritual successor?
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>>388187572
>no stamina recovery
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>>388180802
More jrpg's need to use that action ring. The Shadow Hearts series uses something similar.
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>>388187530
Originally a genderless magical creature.
Male in the English version, Female in the German version.
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>>388187478
I hope Kikuta comes back for SD5
Also, people don't know about this because the west doesn't seem to care about the mana series. The hype that SoM will be getting now is pure nostalgia, while the rest of the series will be disregarded: case in point, see the popularity of Adventures of Mana here compared to Japan.
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This looks fucking ugly. If they didn't announce the platforms you would all be saying "great more mobile shit". I hope the original version is included on PS4.
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>>388183768
Sony's channels never mentions competing platforms. Which also makes it one of the least reliable means of getting information.
Unless it's first party, I'd suggest never even watching it.
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>>388185019
>You can now cast spells without interupting the game
This alone for SD2/3 would really improve it.
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>>388187512
If Square never skips games to get ahead of translations, they get left behind and forgotten in the West like Dragon Quest did.
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>>388187419
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wz80Rvxgw4
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>>388187816
>I hope the original version is included on PS4.
Don't get your hopes up there.
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>>388187647
AHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
>>388187742
>Female in the German version
Not him, but that surprised me when I learned about it.
I wonder if they'll keep that in the German version or change it to be consistent with the rest of the world.
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>>388187816
I liked how AoM looked, I like how this looks. If it was mobile only I'd be bitching about touch controls but seeing as it's on Vita I'm set.
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>>388187816
It is mobile shit. You can tell by the textures.
They just decided to port it.
>>388187935
Enix died because they had NO ADVERTISING. Square was smart enough to advertise and bullshot (FF7's entire advertising campaign only showed FMV stuff, so even normalfags ended up playing it) their way into success. If they had just done a fucking FF7 movie, Enix wouldn't have bought them and ended up fucked in the ass because of it. Yeah, yeah, I know Enix was only a publisher, but most of their comapny-owned IPs are treated like shit everywhere but Japan.
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>>388187647
I bought EO not expecting it to be good, but more like an investment to help the company grow because I want to see where Ishii will go with it.
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>Also available on PC
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>>388187802
Honestly, I love both Kikuta and Shimomura. Kikuta's work on SD3 was fantastic (I REALLY love Faith Total Machine) as well as SoM, but Shimomura's work on LoM was great as well (just hearing City of Flickering Destruction is joy to my ears).

I can understand why the popularity of games differs so much: SD2 is well-known, SD3 was almost officially released in English but alas, SD4 was a total failure, Children/Heroes were hit or miss, RoM never came out outside of JP and was shut down pretty early.
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>>388183989
Because its actually good?
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>>388188328
Dragon Warrior had tons of advertising. The 1st from Nintendo and the 2nd by Enix themselves. The problem was they always looked behind the other NES games of the time. They should have skipped DW2 and focused on getting DW3 out before the Super Nintendo. Then skip DW4 and focus on DW5 or DW6
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>>388188479
Yup, and that's cool.
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>>388188254
>I liked how AoM looked
Fuck you. Have some decency.
I'm not asking for SoM in 3D, but when a dumbphone port has more visual detail than a full 3D "remake" (I say that loosely since it was barely improved at all in terms of mechanics), I think it's safe to say you have a fucking problem. That problem being sheer laziness.
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I'm so proud to be a sony today
fuck bros, we did it
WE WON
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awesome, now i can finally play one of my favorite all time games with my girlfriend.

Dang, last time I bought a square game was....2002?
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Yes, yeeeesss, buy it, even if you alread played it, it's worth it.
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>>388188631
Isn't Switch and SNES Classic getting SoM as well?
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>>388188661
If you liked the game, why not buy it, Neko? It's not like you cannot play game if you had played it once.
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>Comfy forests with actual summer\autumn colors are coming back
I haven't felt this nostalgic since thinking about Zelda Oracle of Seasons and the like
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>>388188661
I hope you get replaced with Niccola, you nya-ing nigger.
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>>388187816
>I hope the original version is included on PS4.
Jesus use an emulator, you played the original already. You are why Todd gets away with his shit.
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>>388188740
That's the spirit
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>>388188605
Eh, I like it. But I also loved the look of FFIV on the DS, and the Bravely games. AoM isn't as polished as them though, there's some texturing issues I take with it, though I like the general aesthetic which is my point.
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>>388188776
But it is Niccolo - both of them are named "Nikita" in JP versions of SD3 and LoM.
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>>388189036
The fact that a 2017 Vita/PS4 games first comparison point is a 3D DS game is damning.
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Not sure how or why SD got such a resurgence. especially with how mediocre the DS games were and how shit SD4 was. Between the gatcha games its been put in on, Rise of Mana, the Switch Collection, and Riesz and Hawkeye in that fighting game, Seiken Densetsu is making somewhat of a small comeback here.
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>that graphics and artstyle
Wow. The hype is real.
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>>388184654
it's a bad game, simply based on the fact that you have to play the locations in one specific order to get them all or otherwise the game will lock you out of content

missable and unrecoverable content is the worst game design present to some degree in every jrpg, but this game is the absolute worst
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>>388189036
>But I also loved the look of FFIV on the DS, and the Bravely games
Both of those games should not have been on the DS/3DS because that shitty resolution was far too low for the artstyles and the textures and meshes are eternally fucked because of that. I've got no problem with low-poly, but that's no excuse for low-res textures. Even DQ9 knew better.
>>388189163
Yup.
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What if they asked Vanillaware to do the remake of Lagang of Mana?
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>>388189269
You're the reason why secrets are now DLC. Fucking kill yourself
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>>388189163
Sounds like a personal problem.
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>>388189180
SE finally realized it costs less to shit out a unity rehash for Mana than it costs to spend 50 bajillion dollars on GRAFX and ad campaigns for FF.
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>>388189269
Yeah I never want to play through a game more than once just stuff all the content into my maw and move on to the next void filler
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>>388181307
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>>388189373
>huge chunks of the game missable
>secrets

no
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>>388189353
They won't because that would take longer than Gideon Zhi finishing his entire translation patch backlog.
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>>388189479
Not him, but I like to do 100% runs my first time unless there are alt paths that entirely change the game and I have no choice but to do those and get even more content (i.e. Der Langrisser).
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>Square partnering with Sony to further ruin games
I'm not surprised.
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>>388189479
there is no point playing through most jrpgs more than once because the story is always the same and there are no builds or decisions to make

though secret of mana 2 is worth multiple playthroughs since it has multiple characters (builds) and each of them have their own unique story - that's how you do replayability
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>>388187047
Chrono Trigger is more mechanically complex and satisfying than most traditional JRPGs of the time.
The combat is simple, but there is a strategic element to it in the form of position and timing.
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>>388189652
Yeah the stories are the same except for the stories you missed on the first playthrough that are different

The game is literally all side quests
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>>388189353
Anon, please. My dick can only get so erect.
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>>388189629
what the fuck does this have to do with sony if its coming to steam as well?

fucking dumbass shitposters.
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>>388189670
The positioning and timing complexities are overvalued and honestly trivial.

Trigger is loved because its quite possibly the best paced RPG ever made. It does not drag, like basically ever. If it does its for a very short while.
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>>388180802
It doesn't deserve it.
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>>388189708
>The game is literally all side quests
So was FFTA2 and that game was tight as shit.
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If its made by the same team who made that lackluster seiken densetsu remake, count me out
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>>388189989
LoM isn't about being tight, it's designed to meander.
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>>388180616
I wish this would contain all the content they had to cut from the original.
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>>388189989
I mean I wasn't exactly trying to shit on LoM for that, I think it suited it.
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>>388188548
>agility stat doesn't work
>Intelligence stat is the same as Pokemon Gen's 1 Special Stat
>Spirit stat is irrelevant unless you're a healer
>Magic completely pauses the game
>Magic can't be dodged
>enemy magic is fucking everywhere, which brings the game's battle system pacing to a crawl
>enemies can cast magic that require no downtime at all and are cast instantly, giving you no time to react
>most bosses are stationary
>the bosses that aren't stationary can easily be cheesed by pushing them into a corner and ganging up the boss with all 3 party members, completely stunning them unless you get really unlucky misses in a row
>bosses can cast magic and techs multiple times in a row, giving you no time to react at all and might even result in a game over
>what that? You don't have a healer before you can change your class? Better max out those heal items and spam them to no end if you want to win against any boss!
>map design is complete garbage and there are so many dead ends the game itself might as well be a maze
>dead ends don't have anything interesting in them other then enemies
>level scaling is completely fucked when you reached the God Beasts story and killed atleast one of them, and requires grinding unless you explore every single dead end in every dungeon and kill every single enemy, and even then it might not be enough because the enemies don't give enough EXP.
>2nd class change requires ??? seeds, which only drop from very specific enemies, which mean more mandatory grinding
>getting the best weapons and armor requires you to get those Armor Seeds, which only drops from specific enemies, which means more mandatory grinding

yeah wow nice """action"""-RPG you shit eating faggot
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I'm a nintenbro and I'm not even mad. Sony wins.
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>>388183217
It looks awesome desu. I don't know what everyone's whining about. But it might just be me, forgetting where I am, on the internet...
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>>388184782
No, it doesn't look "fine" and fuck you again for tolerating this ugly lifeless crap.
You are the reason everything is wrong with SE's remake attempts, because there are idiots like you who actually gobble that shit up. Fuck you.
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>>388184525
cunt
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>>388189806
Not him but this game is clearly designed around the low capabilities of the vita and they cheaped out on it because of that.
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>>388190170
It'll probably come to the Switch a couple of months later anyway.
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>>388180802
I could never play this game as a kid. Is it worth emulating now?
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>>388186069
How does it feel to be a soulless, emotionless westacuck?
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>>388190329
All they need to do is bring the collection to the west. No one wants this remake.
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>>388180910

The only people who dislike this game are the ones that are too dumb to appreciate just what the game is.

It's insanely deep, has tons of content and replayability, is one of the hardest games ever made and is charming as fuck. But brainlets wouldn't see any of this.
>>
This thread is complete garbage. I sure hope japs can appreciate this because the moment you give an american fanbase anything for a dead franchise they bitch about it to no end.
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>>388180616
Graphics are a bit shitty, if they had tweaked it to have a higher contrast and look a bit more like Valkyria Chronicles with defined edges it would look better.
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>>388180616
>Remake
>Remake
>Remaster
>Remake
>Remaster

I'm tired of this shit and I can't believe people are happy for this. I want a NEW good game, not old stuff I already played.
It's almost like every fucking company knows very well they can't make good games anymore so they'll just bank on nostalgia cashgrabs.
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>>388190513
god whine more

you faggots are so fucking sad with this shit

>euueueh the graphics the graphics
who
fucking
cares
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>>388190513
Cel shading would be best, but what they did is probably cheaper.
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>>388190513
The graphics are cute, those lines ruin it.
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>>388190415
>is one of the hardest games ever made

It's a great game, but excuse me?
It's ridiculously easy, and I'm not talking about if you abuse the smiting/spell crafting/golem programing/pet raising/ect systems
I mean just whacking shit with found gear from monster drops; The game is easy.
There's like one tough boss, and it's not part of any of the 3 main scenarios
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>>388190163
No one cares you autistic faggot. Go back to playing DOTA and League like the rest of the underage fags.
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>>388190709

Try turning on hard mode next time you play.
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>>388180616
so fucking pointless, there's no point in playing it if it's not a full blown remake, it's just the same game converted to low poly 3D and it looks less appealing than 2D sprites, fuck that, better play the original
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Should I play Adventures of Mana? I could get the remake on the vita.
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>>388190738
>who cares if the game is a broken mess and completely undermines the action of an ACTION rpg!
wew lad
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>>388180616
OH HELL YEAH
>It's 3D low poly like the FF4 remake on DS
OH HELL NO
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>>388190894
The best he can come up with is "who cares, i-its fun!"
Sad, really.
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>>388190574
This.
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>>388190752
You can STILL just whack stuff with found gear, even on No Future (although that's a test of patience)
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>>388190701
>The graphics are cute, those lines ruin it.

I mean defining the edges of the 3d models/meshes.
Not only would it look better, it would be visually more similar to the original SNES game.
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>>388180616
>those graphics
>on ps4
they want to teach the IamSetsuna team how to really flop? Shit is literally a phone app
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>>388190163
>stunning bosses
>in som
stop inventing reasons to hate shit based on hoping the audience is too young to have played those games, retarded reddditor
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>>388190960
Pretty much me.
Oh, there's this game I heard about and meaning to get around to play sometimes, but if it's being remad I might not even need to emulate!
>It's 3D low poly trash
Threw up.
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>>388180910
I dropped this game a few hours in. Nothing about it was too remarkable outside of the visuals so I doubt I missed much. I assume this is one of the many nostalgia titles that you can't dislike because it's sacred or something?
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>>388190574
At this point I would take enhanced ports that at least add some new content but no, it's just graphical rehauls and visual upgrades all the time with nothing new at all.
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>>388190415
>is one of the hardest games ever made
The sad state of modern gaming on redddit, everyone
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>>388191172
Just like OOT.
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>>388190513
this needs 2 things : toon shading for the edges, and actual shadows on the model.
a higher poly count wouldn't hurt. This is a ps4 game, yet it looks like an emulated 3DS games with upped res, like they did for pokemon
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>>388190475
Let's ask 2chan.
Actually, let's ask Futaba and Esuteru.

http://matsuri.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/ogame/1503645882/
http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/20017990.html
Welp, they mad.
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>>388190659
>Cel shading would be best, but what they did is probably cheaper.

Well nothing really to do with "cheaper". There's no real lighting/shading going on at all, they simply popped the meshes into the game engine and little else.
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>>388180616
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>>388191349
Honestly the models are fine. It simply needs proper shading.
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>>388191179
I fucking hate this. Even worse when the new version looks like shit and removes content.
>>388191349
>toon shading
>toon
Kill yourself.
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>>388191432
Oh nice, you know how to take screencaps.
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>>388191494
>the models are fine
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>ps4 vita and steam

sony didnt win they got a fucking consultation prize

and they will probably fuck up the sprites again
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>>388191565
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>>388190475
>revive a dead franchise solely to make an effortless cashgrab that shits on the original
haha yeah those entitled americans, fuck them
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>>388191432
Wait. What happened to Metal Gear?
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>>388191657
surive
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>>388191592
>dude I am literally SHAKING and freaking out over this remake that doesn't remove the original game's existence so I must exert my crippling autism in every thread about it
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>>388191657
They just announced there would be farming and crafting mechanics for Metal Gear Survive.
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>>388186114
Proof that Vita isn't dying.
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>>388191606
>the sprites

uh... anon
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>>388191432
What happened with Metal Gear?
>>388189507
>farming and crafting
Oh.
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>>388191592
>>the models are fine

They are. If it costs like 30$ tops and is a complete remake with all content intact, they fix the shading and allow for the classic SNES music to be used then I'm fine with it.
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>>388191695
the original's existence is an excuse to fuck remakes up now?
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>>388191360
Dont speak moonspeak. Whats the general complaints about?
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>>388191836
>fuck remakes up
Only in your narrow-minded opinion, nostalgiacuck.
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>>388191850
Use google translate you mongoloid, you can translate entire pages.
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>>388191819
Man, the voice for Randi is too fucking deep.
I always imagined him as 13 or 14, even now. He sounds 20 something in english and at least 18 in jap. This is english Lan Hikari all over again, but this time it's not funny.
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>>388190415
>one of the hardest games ever made

Hahaha, fucking what? Kill yourself. LoM allows you to physically knock back + stun every monster + bosses in the game with a basic weapon swing

Get some fucking taste, LoM was a huge disappointment and complete shit even when you dont compare it to previous games in the series, even back in 2000 when it came out. What a fucking waste it was and a piece of shit

LoM was basically like "hey guys lets take everything people loved and shit on it, the videogame"
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>>388191889
Sorry that I'm not open-mindend pleb enough to happily eat up 3D lowpoly mobile port trash.
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>>388182743
This.

Also was Sword of Mana good? I seem to remember postitive opinions on it, like it was the "Link's Awakening" of the series, that is with a smaller scope, but very faithful to the series.
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>>388190894
>>388190967
or because half those reasons are legitimate bullshit and you suck shit at an easy game and are trying to nitpick bullshit for no reason. Yes the game is flawed, still pretty enjoyable anyways.

Fuck off and let people actually enjoy playing a game you miserable bitches.
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>>388191164
>y-you made it up
You can literal cheese Darkshine Knight and Koren by turning off the CPU's Techs and constantly normal attacking the boss. They will keep getting locked into their "getting hurt" animation and get no chance to retaliate unless you RNG hates you and you miss constantly.
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>>388192064
>and he goes ahead and literally gives an "who cares i-its fun!" answer
pottery
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>>388191819
Better then the environments, weak lighting and the scale looks off>>388190513
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>>388192041
>It was the ''Link's Awakening'' of the series
It was the ''The Legend of Zelda'' of the series. It's the first game. SoM is a remake of the original Seiken Densetsu.
Is it any good? Yeah. It's alright.
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>>388191819
Cool. It looks awesome to me. He speaks now? I hope there's new content like new characters and quests.
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>>388191819
Some shading would really go a long way in making it look better.
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Like the way they remade the first game as Adventures of Mana? No thanks.
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>>388191934
Gives me indecipherable gibberish for most of it. Female barbecued eggs was what it translated one post.
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>People saying it looks good
It looks like a fucking WiiWare game and doesn't stay remotely true to the original artstyle.
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>>388192294
>People saying it looks good

Illiterate? At best people said that it's fine. That translates to
>ok
>decent
>acceptable
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>>388192294
Yeah 3d models typically don't look like 16-bit pixels. Fucking astounding observation mate.
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Yeah, blame me for playing a game and enjoying it on a thread about a video game. I know right? also ignore that a shitload of your drivel was infact bullshit (bahaha most bosses stand still and it requires lots of grinding).
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>>388192064
>or because half those reasons are legitimate bullshit
Then actually state them why those reasons are bullshit.

>and you suck shit at an easy game
The game is indeed easy, but you can't suck at this game because there is no skill involved at all. Also, you can't really call me a shit player if I'm able to cheese bosses with ease.

>and are trying to nitpick bullshit for no reason
They aren't nitpicks. They are actual huge problems that plague the entire game.

>Fuck off and let people actually enjoy playing a game you miserable bitches
Too bad you can't really play SD3 because it pauses constantly :^)
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>>388192426
Talking about artstyle here, mongo.
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>>388192631
Oh yeah sorry I forgot that the art in the SNES version wasn't made by 16 bit pixels
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>>388192706
What the fuck does that even mean? Are you retarded?
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>>388192835
That the original art style was created by 16 fucking bit pixels. Of course it's not going to look the same in 3d. Are YOU retarded?
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>>388192706
Don't expect neo-/v/ to understand the difference between graphics and artstyle.
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>>388192903
Meant for >>388192631
Obviously
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>>388192891
This is the artstyle. The remake looks completely different. There is barely any detail on the characters and the colours are all desaturated and bland.
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>>388192981
The original itself doesn't even fit this art style. If anything, the remake is more faithful than the sprites were.
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>>388192706
This is a 3d model made to look like a sprite.(except for the head and hair which actually is a sprite)
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>>388192981
That's not the original style, that's obviously a digital piece.
Not sure why but it's hard to find any of the character artwork from the 90's game despite it existing
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>>388192706
This is a sprite.
Made out of a 3d model
From a 16 bit game
So, the two things can obviously have some overlap
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>>388192041
Yes and no. There were some interesting aspects to it as a remake, but it was far too ambitious for the scale of the original, and ironically, many of the newer elements ended up feeling forced and unnecessary as a result.

The most forced example to me being the shitty roadblocks which you need respective weapons or spells to deal with. Granted, they are mechanically the same as the obstacles in the original; however, the original made understandable use of them within the world (i.e. you need a chain whip to cross over large chasms and cliffs, mattocks/morning star to break tough cave walls, you need ice magic to freeze enemies to create multiple presses for button puzzles, etc.) but Sword simply places obstacles as blatant "fuck you" stones left forced right in the middle of your path, which is now conveniently bottlenecked to prevent any sort of alternate routes. What's stupid is how this shit continues in Sword even after you've obtained the necessary equipment to break them, which is what cements the frivalous nature of the stones, since it forces you to switch to the needed weapons or magic every time (unless by chance you already were using them). The story changes are hit and miss (Willy living and being a Mana tribe member, what the fuck?) and some of the remixes are decent, even for GBA audio. What's weird is how you can kill the final boss without Excalibur (Xcalibur, if you're a sick fuck like me), thus making its inclusion in both the story and game pretty unnecessary. Frivalous stuff being the class system, weapon upgrade system, and even the magic to an extent. None of them are really that necessary and the game is beatable without any of them thanks to the "limit break" attacks .

If they had done a totally new story, it would have ended up much better. What they did was try to cram Legend of Mana into FFA on a GBA and it just didn't work as well because of that.
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>>388193198
I like when people have to resort to contrarianism to win an argument. It's a sign they have nothing left.
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>>388180802

This is the only reason I still pay attention to E3 and all the other game shows. Come the fuck on Sony, give the fans what they want.
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>the mana fortress in 3d
Oh god i just came.
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>>388193342
i havent been readin the thread, and nor do i care to cause more shit-flinging

but i do have 90's artwork of Secret of Mana
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>>388184965
Remakes done good are still a thing ( take odin sphere or yakuza kiwami for example), but i gotta agree most of them are just ugly cashgrab schemes that completely rapes the original games legacies and square enix is no stranger to that, look at the mobile ports of all ff's
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>>388192294
You should see the other thread cumming over it.
>>388189325
>wiiware
Goddamn, nailed it. Well, sorta. It's annoying that mobile (and unity to an extent) games went for that look because of shit like WiiWare, Wind Waker, and Oceanhorn.
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>>388193558
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>>388193342
>there will never be a "yarn yoshi" graphically styled version of Secret of Mana where the models emulate these
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>>388193418
Thanks for taking the time to type all that broseph.
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>>388193494
>Come the fuck on Sony, give the fans what they want.
Don't expect that from Sony.
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>>388193558
neat
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>>388193613
these are obviously not in order, and i don't have the whole set. im only sharing what i have
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>>388193558
Nigga, that's not artwork for SoM, that's Nintendo Power's artwork for SoM done by based motherfucking Terada. Original SoM "artwork" was clay models. You'd know this if you weren't retarded.
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>>388193617
Yeah i swear there was more art in this style floating around, that's how I remember them looking officially
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>>388193692
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>>388193467
Yes, clearly it's just contrarianism. This sprite looks precisely like the character in the art you posted.
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>>388191432
Upvoted
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>>388193738
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>>388192981
Poor Primm, She never got to fuck Dyluk
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Finally, a re-release of something that isnยดt Final Fantasy
Soul Blazer series next please, or at least Terranigma. Chrono Trigger would sell like hotcakes as well.
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>>388193821
I hope you're not going to buy this trash.
At the very least pirate it.
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>>388193467
How does resorting to contrarianism win arguments? Contrarianism is to take a position generally opposed by the majority. That alone is not an argument. Now on the other hand, if he tried to appeal to what the majority believes, thereby presenting it as fact, then it would somewhat make sense for somebody who ran out of arguments. I have difficulty understanding why somebody who has no longer any argument would take a contrary positon. It would imply the exact opposite, don't you think?
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>>388193718
>someone asks for 90's SoM art
>post SoM art
>"its not art for SoM"
>"its clearly work from the guy who did some Zelda art"

thanks guy
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>>388193821
Can they even legally remake Soul Blazer or Terranigma?
What the fuck limbo did Quintet's IPs even end up in?
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>>388193793
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>>388193898
Anon, what do you think I meant by nothing left.
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>>388193975
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>>388193909
>actual information is terrible
>I want forged information that panders to me

:^)
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>>388193212
Holy butts, that animation is shit.
Why the fuck have Japs never read these?
I swear, every one of them learns from anime, which is why their animation is getting worse every year because everyone is worse than the animators who came before them.
Every ugoira I've seen is fucking garbage.
LEARN SOME GODDAMN TIMING AND SPACING
I've even read a jap blog that said along the lines of "If you have time to draw detailed frills and creases on the panties, then put the same effort into making your animation not look bad."
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>>388194019
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>>388194085
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>>388193621
I'm not your bro, jackass.
You're welcome, by the way.
It's a decent game, but the execution is so lacking. Even a decade later, I still feel burned because I expected so much more.
Also, Julius only having 2 actual forms in sword fucking sucked.
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>>388193212
CUTE!
What is it from anon, p-please.
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>>388194047
>Holy butts, that animation is shit.

Probably because it's not suppose to be one fluid animation and is instead a demonstration of all the different firing poses.
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>>388193819
He was too based for this world.
>>388193821
>asking for Quintet remakes
Hey, you dropped this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNW8i0bnZRU
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>>388194043
This is what happens when you faggots spoonfeed then cry when people say it leads to nothing good.
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>>388190163
>people actually like a game other than my favorite game so I'm going to post a list of /vp/-tier nitpicked bullshit, majority of which is either subjective, flat out wrong, or exposes me as a retard who has barely played any RPGs

>agility stat doesn't work
This falls under "datamined bullshit that only applies to speedrunners", nobody fucking notices this until they dig deep into the game's inner workings. Stats should actually do things but a game having a literally worthless stat is nothing new and many fucking excellent games have this problem, sometimes worse (SMT1 and FF6 for example). Evasion/hit stats have no place in action RPGs to begin with.
>Intelligence stat is the same as Pokemon Gen's 1 Special Stat
The special stat in Pokemon was a problem in terms of actual player vs player battling, in a fucking co-op RPG this is a complete non-issue. Don't make comparisons to shit if you don't even understand why said shit was bad in the first place you retard.
>Spirit stat is irrelevant unless you're a healer
THIS ISN'T EVEN FOREIGN TO RPGS OR ACTION ARPGS WOW I CAN'T BELIEVE CERTAIN STATS ARE ONLY IMPORTANT FOR CERTAIN CLASSES OH MY GOD WHY ISN'T INTELLIGENCE INCREASING THE POWER OF MY FUCKING GREATSWORD
>Magic completely pauses the game
This is a problem if you play Angela, otherwise magic is casted infrequently enough that it's hardly an issue
>Magic can't be dodged
This is an actual flaw, but the same goes for Secret of Mana where you can't dodge magic without abusing a glitch.
>enemies can cast magic that require no downtime at all and are cast instantly, giving you no time to react
You can't complain about magic pausing the game and then complain about not having time to react when enemies cast magic. There isn't even a guard or dodge button, how are you expecting to even react?
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>>388194412
And he couldn't have added in-between frames despite that? Come on, man. I'm not asking for Max Fleischer here, but a smear here and there is better than nothing.
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>>388190163
>most bosses are stationary
>the bosses that aren't stationary can easily be cheesed by pushing them into a corner and ganging up the boss with all 3 party members, completely stunning them unless you get really unlucky misses in a row
And most bosses in SoM get chaincasted to death without taking any damage, nice fucking """action""" RPG dude
>enemy magic is fucking everywhere, which brings the game's battle system pacing to a crawl
>bosses can cast magic and techs multiple times in a row, giving you no time to react at all and might even result in a game over
Enemies only spam magic as an automatic counter to the player spamming magic, it's made to discourage the player from trivializing the game in the same manner as SoM
>what that? You don't have a healer before you can change your class? Better max out those heal items and spam them to no end if you want to win against any boss!
What's that? You're playing a party based action RPG and you specifically chose not to build a properly balanced party? Fuck, this isn't even specific to action RPGs, this applies to party based RPGs in general. If a game has a healer then it is more than likely balanced around the idea that the player will likely include a healer in their party.
>map design is complete garbage and there are so many dead ends the game itself might as well be a maze
>dead ends don't have anything interesting in them other then enemies
>MOMMY THE MAPS AREN'T STRAIGHTFORWARD AND EASY TO NAVIGATE AND IT HURTS MY FEEFEES WHEN THERE'S NO PRESENTS IN THE DEAD ENDS
>this entire tirade about muh grinding
Fuck off, you don't get to complain about grinding when SoM used the absolutely dreadful FF2 style of leveling for both weapons and spells.

And an extra fuck you for making me shit on SoM in the same vein as you, I actually like that game because I'm not an autistic freak who only allows himself to like a single game in a series while shitting on all the others.
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>again
so, second time this decade?
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>>388180802
good riddance
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>>388194295
http://rcrt.blog.fc2.com/

>>388194594
Here, have an example of an actual animation as it appears in gameplay
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That's a pretty close release date
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>>388194857
Why are these type of games always so cringeworthy?
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>>388192518
- Intelligence is nowhere near fucked up as Special. Its small boosts to the actual stats that determines damage, not the actual stats themselves.
- Spirit affects Items as well. Seeing as one of your complaints is about using items...
- How many fucking games even have dodgable magic? Its barely possible back then, and even that's a fucking stupid mechanic to begin with or even want in an RPG.
- Most enemies that cast magic will have 1 on screen, nor is it instant. The only thing that does that is the Ninja's, who are not a common enemy. Nor do they always cast, they will go to attack you directly more often than not.
- There's is like 7 bosses out of 25+ that are stationary, with 4 of those being screenwide. Fuck some of the ones that are screenwide move around.
- The only bosses that can be cheesed like that are Darkshine Knight, Koren, and Bigieu. Everyone else has shit that prevents that. Darkshine can do a tech if he wants.
- Map design is fine. Dungeons aren't even long nor confusing, not sure where your getting that idea. Nor are they fucking straight lines like 90% of games seem to do today.
- Few and far between, and they aren't long.
- Their countering your spells or techs, which admittedly is a flaw on how its handled. They don't actually chaincast anything in this game.
- Thats the case in every fucking RPG ever made. No shit your going to need healing items if you didnt bring a healer what the fuck kind of complaint is that. At least SD3 healing items are cheap and plentiful.
- Levels get higher for them, but it doesn't effect anything. Infact all it does is give you more experience.

Seed grinding, Magic casts and Agility were the only valid points, but are hardly gamebreaking. Everything else was nitpick or straight up bullshit. Complaining about using healing items fucking really?
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>Secret of Mana trending on Twitter
>Half-Life isn't
Man, what? This doesn't even look like anything special. A cheap mobile tier remake, just like last time.
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>>388194962
haha yeah my dude you watch Leafy too what did you think about his latest cringe video I liked it when the kid did that thing :)
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>>388195010
Keep crying, V.alvedrone
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>>388195182
I don't think fans of half life consider themselves valve fans after today
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>>388180802

>remake

If anything, they should make a prequel set in the Dragon Campaign with Zieg as the protag. My dick is getting hard just thinking about it.
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>>388195052
Struck a nerve huh?
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>>388195394
yeah my cringe nerve >.< i had to play with my fidget spinner (that I bought ironically hehe just a joke) just to get over that one!!
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>>388194857
Still blatantly "anime", especially in the run-cycle but it's clearly intended for a certain comedic and "cute" effect, especially in the rushing lines placed about the body, which try to emphasize the "gotta go fast cutely" nature. At least I can tell there's some sincere effort put into the "wall slam". The trip would almost be good, but the hair throws me off, but to be fair, it's pretty hard to do long and fair well, so I give him some minor points for that.

In terms of game and movement design though, she's going pretty slowly in terms of distance relating to the speed of her effort. If you only showed me the running animation, I'd assume she'd be covering as much ground as quickly as the Speed Booster in metroid, given how rapidly the frames cycle and how few there are in the run-cycle alone. For a normal "go faster than walking run" there's a bit too little going on animation wise. I'm hoping he changes that or spaces it more and removes the speedlines until "super top-speed" where she can run across entire halls in a few seconds, thus justifying the quicker framerate of movement.

tl;dr: 3/4 stars, but getting there.
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>>388195010
Hipsters don't play FPS games.
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If a lot of people buy this then Square will probably consider remaking/releasing SD3 as well
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>>388195675
But Hipsters love Half-Life.
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>>388180616
>Sony wins
>When I played this on my SNES years ago and this remake looks like a low budget mobile game
uh...
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>>388194557
>This falls under "datamined bullshit that only applies to speedrunners", nobody fucking notices this until they dig deep into the game's inner workings. Stats should actually do things but a game having a literally worthless stat is nothing new and many fucking excellent games have this problem, sometimes worse (SMT1 and FF6 for example). Evasion/hit stats have no place in action RPGs to begin with.
The agility stat actually matters because its supposed to determine your hit/avoid ratio in this game. Because it doesn't work, you're at the mercy of complete RNG that your normal attacks are going to connect or not. Its very noticeable the further you go in the game because you'll miss contantly.

>The special stat in Pokemon was a problem in terms of actual player vs player battling, in a fucking co-op RPG this is a complete non-issue.
Actually it isn't a problem at all, but if they are going to incorporate a Spirit system too, why isn't the Spirit stat your magic resistance and why isn't Intelligence the stat that also determines your healing? Its incredibly misleading, especially compared to other RPGs at the time and before that.

>This is a problem if you play Angela, otherwise magic is casted infrequently enough that it's hardly an issue
Obviously, but like I said, the enemies and the bosses also do it often, which is still a problem.

>You can't complain about magic pausing the game and then complain about not having time to react when enemies cast magic.
The problem is that its not very clear when enemies are casting magic so when the name of the spell appears, its already too late to react to it with a heal or a stat buff. There are also cases where the enemy (and most notably bosses) cast multiple spells in a row instantly which gives no reaction time in between. There are only a few bosses that actually make it very clear when they're casting a spell and gives you atleast a few seconds to react to it, most notably Dolan, Dangaard and Mispolm.
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>>388187626
Then don't. Some people do prefer playing the remake. It doesn't erase the original game for people who prefer it.
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>>388196520
>Some people do prefer playing the remake.
Who would that be? And why?
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http://www.siliconera.com/2017/04/30/seiken-densetsu-collection-shares-look-screen-change-quick-save-music-modes/

Honestly. Even the collection looks like a much more loving project than this. And it actually had additional features and elements to it that were free. And weren't cut off as DLC to be sold alongside the game.

I could be wrong though. But if the remake has any notable features not in the original then they should have probably lead with that instead of showing us whatever they did.
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>>388196640
I don't know. I think FF is shit. I like Secret of Mana though, I'd at least try the remake to see what changed compared to the original game, which I can emulate whenever I want or play my physical copy.
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>>388195507
Keep going, anon.
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>>388182607
Eat a dick, nigger.
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wait

so is it gonna be 3d?
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>>388198327
Read the thread.
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The original wasn't exactly amazing in the graphics department, good god the remake looks bland and generic. You can tell it's a mobile game.
Look how flat everything is. There is no lighting, no shadows and the waterfall is just perfectly rectangular shapes with a texture on them. The original was much more vibrant.
If this was a 3DS game, it would be passable. But, as a PS4 title it's embarrassing.
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>>388180718

>Seiken Densetsu 3 is what created many more kemono
>tl note: kemono means furry
>normies

>>>/a/
>>>/r9k/
>>>/jp/
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>>388180616
It's also on PC. Sony won nothing.
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>>388180802
Too much work. It's a really long game with lot of things. The combat is easy to remake but it was 4 cds long.

I would shit my pants if it happens
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>>388192981
>This is the artstyle

You're a fucking retard.
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>>388180910
>wanting a shitty 3D remake when the glorious 2d sprites of the original are still good.

You a fag...a fag with a good taste but still a fag
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is it going to have coop play like the snes version?
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>>388200714
Yes
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>>388184271
Oh neat a pop up book
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The thing that bothers me the most about this. Is really just that I won't be able to get it on the same system as the Seiken Densetsu Collection.
The Seiken Densetsu Collection isn't on PC or PS4, and this remake won't be available for the Switch. Which makes a port of the last remake unlikely too.

It would have been nice to have it all on one system.
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