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Continuing from >>387044236
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getting the timeline out of the way
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The Adventure games deserve more respect, they're fun, fast, cool and quality games and you classic faggots will NOT SHIT ON THEM UNDERSTAND??!
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>everyone would be happy in 24hours for Mania
>got leaked because of Mark
>Reviews are gonna slap Mania in the face because of Oil Ocean thx to based 12 Game Over
>PC got delayed because of a Leak from Switch version
>All Mania threads are shit now
Bad Future
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There are THREE Sonics.
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Sonic 4 is canon, Generations is canon, and CD is not a spin-off. Get over it.
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>>387080305
>>387079840
>>387080090
adventure original concept art, when it was supposed to have physics like wind hill beta shows
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>>387080450
It got leaked because of nintendos incompetence
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>>387080287
No it isn't: http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_the_Hedgehog_3_manuals
All you did was screenshot http://info.sonicretro.org/Knuckles_the_Echidna#Origin_of_Knuckles
If anything the manual just says that Knuckles is naive and slow, but they don't say it's because of his seclusion.
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Blue Sphere till Mania PC!
smashcast dot tv slash BlueSphereAnon
RedSphere if you're out there somewhere we miss you
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>>387080554
post moar
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>>387080305
I'm interested in buying it, but can't decide if I want it for Switch of PS4. My PS4 has my entire library nowadays but I also feel like I need to justify my Switch purchase.
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>>387080450
Mania threads will be much more cheery in two days regardless of PC people being left out.
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>>387080642
that's all. Izuka destroyed also those after they were revealed to the public
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Post tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU2m1O13DOM
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>>387080679
PS4. In the chance that there is lock-on, don't you want to have both games on the same system? PS4 Forces will be better than Switch one.
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>>387080630
May as well post the VMU version too because I love how it turned out.
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>>387080805
Damn, that's actually pretty awesome.
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Are there any new leaked unlocks?
Last ones I heard about were Insta-Shield and &Knuckles mode.
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>>387080805
https://youtu.be/elIPv9DycWs
https://youtu.be/LmEiLHLFpEQ
https://youtu.be/u3R7ihxMZ28
https://youtu.be/esPzSZn5q54
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Thoughts on sonic megamix?
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>>387081178
Unlocks are only usable in no save mode only.
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>>387081178
Mean Bean Machine mode for extras. Thats it so far.
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>>387081178
&Knuckles mode?
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>>387080371
>trying to derail the thread again with more shitflinging over your retarded picture
fuck off
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>>387081341
It lets Knuckles follow Sonic instead of Tails
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>>387081265
What? Elaborate.
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>>387081341
Replaces Tails with Knuckles
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>>387081207
It takes everything good and bad from Sonic 1 and multiplies it by 100. I stopped playing at Misty Maze Zone because it was more boring and tedious than Labyrinth was despite looking much more interesting.
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So are these unlocks only from Gold medals? Because from the last of what I saw that Mark had, he only had 5 golds and like 20 silvers, but only unlocked maybe 5 things?
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>>387081409
What's there to elaborate? Different gameplay mechanics only work in no-save mode
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>>387081409
https://twitter.com/MarkM447/status/896845401839587329
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>>387081183
Ooh those are some nice jams
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>>387081409
I think it's just from the level select, not the actual game.
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4 of my Chaos grew up today! Post cute
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>>387080548
>Autismobros be like
Face it, story doesn't matter in these games and not liking a game because it "isn't canon" as opposed to it being an actual shit game is retarded.
>>387081503
I think &Knuckles mode works regardless though, it just replaces Tails with Knuckles so I don't see how it could be more advantageous.
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Can nips go super or was that something else claimed by Iizuka?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4BMEcXBxMA
THE MADMAN HAS DONE IT AGAIN
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>>387081457
Yeah I stopped at act 3, was entertaining but I can't really call it good plus it had some clipping and sfx issues, nice music choices though
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>>387081463
No, I think he has yet to unlock anything with golds.
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>>387080679
I'm not sure if buying a 4-5 hour game will justify buying a Switch anon. The only way to play a Nintendo console is to play it how it was intended to be played, and that is to play Nintendo games. Just buy it for the PS4.
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>>387081613
holy fuck the drop dash looks like sex
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>>387080450
Mania didn't get delayed because of the Switch leak, it got delayed to add anti-piracy measures.
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>>387081613
I love playing through GHZ 1 and getting a better time
I'm gonna have a ball when I try to get a sub 30 second run
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>>387081515
The game gear games have underrated music. It's always a treat to find remixes that aren't just Sunset Park.
https://youtu.be/E3PecRwbZg4
https://youtu.be/8YIdpKjpUuo
https://youtu.be/EbygcFhV784
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>>387081613
He's a reviewer right? It's good to know there'll be at least one review out there by someone who can actually play Sonic games.
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>>387080371
Nobody can debunk this since is the classic sonic in Forces is from another dimension. So how can he be Sonic's younger self, whom we know experienced the events of 1-3&K?
Pint-Sized Sonic has to be from a timeline which is similar, yet different to Classic.
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>>387081613
I wonder if he could shed milliseconds off his time by spindashing closer to the starting marker
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>>387081613
>game comes out
>every top score is 0'00''00
maybe now that they are adding denuvo it will have with cheaters
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>>387082208
THANK YOU
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>>387080371
Kill yourself
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How bad do you think the Sonic the Hedgehog Live-Action/Animated Movie by Sony will be?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgeY9B1
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Only 2 (or 16) days left!
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>>387082208
Exactly, the Sonic marketed as "Classic Sonic" is one we've never seen until now, until Mania that is; a completely different Sonic.
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>>387080554
>when it was supposed to have physics like wind hill beta shows
What? Windy Hill beta showed the same "physics" that made it into the final game

Sonic doesn't really work in 3D but regardless I'm liking the more classic artstyle look in that photo
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>>387082208
>>387082321
>>387082434
No one cares
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What if I said that Mania Sonic is just Classic Sonic that never interacted with the Time Eater?
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>>387082358
You keep asking, has anyone said they think it'll be good?
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>>387082449
you misunderstood me, but my post was worded poorly anyway. the beta wind hill was meant for a more physic-based gameplay, but we only got the level nowdays. It was even confirmed in an interview that originally the physics were similar to the classic but they wouldn't work well due to hardware limitation. no, I'm not searching retro for it
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>>387080450
>>All Mania threads are shit now
they're slowly getting better tbf family
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>>387082449
>Sonic doesn't really work in 3D
Nah, Sonic Team just haven't done a good job of making him work in 3D.
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anybody else here /doubledipping/?
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So... Everything is already unlocked?

Same boss for both sonic, tails and knuckles ?

Or we only know the sonic path?
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>>387082434
I'm glad they chose an exciting way to reintroduce the character rather than time travel for a second time.
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>>387080805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UMx0YCTcfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAN_saeV0PA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RglxkcgMXPQ&list=PLhD-scce1wvYkrREDCGUQtqaYxmPmJv_g&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4KIxqTYGGI&list=PLhD-scce1wvYkrREDCGUQtqaYxmPmJv_g&index=6
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>>387082883
?
we know that knuckles has specific paths, but I haven't spoiled myself much more
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>>387080607
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>>387082803
>It was even confirmed in an interview that originally the physics were similar to the classic but they wouldn't work well due to hardware limitations

What's stopping them now then?
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>>387082863
I'll double dip my dick in your butt.
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what is this 'pint-sized sonic' autism. its classic sonic.
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>>387082883
Extras? No. They need to be unlocked by spending medals.
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>>387082846
>Muh Utopia
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>>387083081
it's just autistic babbling, ignore it
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>>387082863
Me. They delayed the PC version so since I'm a impatient faggot I have to buy the PS4 version to get it day one. Though I might cancel my PC preorder and just pirate it later I can't decide.
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>>387083081
>>387083167
>it's just autistic babbling

Then debunk it then, faggots.

>I can't
Thought so.
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>>387082636
Time Eater incident never happened in pint-sized Sonic's timeline that we know of.

So yeah, that would be another way of saying it. Pint-Sized Sonic's quantum timeline is simply one in which the time eater incident never happened, and has mania in it, which happens during Sonic cd in the prime timeline.
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>>387083061
the fact that most of the original team left after the adventure adventure, and other types of games are easier to do, and it has been shown that modern sonic fans would eat shit if it had sonic name on it
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>>387083081
It's Pint-Sized Sonic. He is not Sonic from the past aka classic Sonic, but a different Sonic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGqVsuU3Jbw
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>>387083081
>>387083167
I bet you two were surprised about Mania and Forces connection
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>>387083275
By the same logic of referring to Classic Sonic as "Pint-Sized Sonic" we should be calling Eggman"Baldy McNosehair"
It makes sense for Eggman to call Classic Sonic that because he sees him as a pest. It's an insult basically.
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>>387083495
You are ignoring the "from another dimension" part. It's not a mere insult.
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>>387083081
No, Classic Sonic doesn't exist. In Sonic Forces you play as Little Blue Savior Sonic, Pint-Sized Sonic and the custom Avatar to fight against Infinite and Baldy McNosehair.
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>>387083275
Goddamn, I thought it was just for fun. Didn't expect people to take it so seriously. then again this is sonic so I shouldn't be surprised
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People are really getting hung up on the name, just call him Mania Sonic instead of Pint-sized.
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Who here will actually try to go for the perfect run trophy/achievement of not taking a single hit during the entire game?
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>>387083616
Yes it is, considering who calls him that.
Additionally, the promotional materials for the game still refer to him as Classic Sonic, as seen in the title of this video:
https://youtu.be/q1wYD5b4VUw
And the description of this:
https://youtu.be/dprxYd_16Ck
>In a world conquered by Dr. Eggman, it’s up to Modern Sonic, Classic Sonic, and your own Custom Character to fight back.
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>>387083823
No, too many people assume Sonic in Mania is just Sonic, that would add to the confusion.
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>>387083886
It's no use arguing with these autists. They will continue to act like their theories are canon.
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>>387083886
"From another dimension" isn't an insult.
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>>387083886
"Classic Sonic" only refers to his appearance and it would be confusing to come up with a new name when classic sonic was used recently in generations.
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>>387083886
And those advertisements are completely misleading, as proven by game footage from both games.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHl68YSVpxE&t=0s
Most anticipated game of this year.
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>>387083983
I want to ___ that fox!
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>>387083983
No one has yet to be able to disprove the 3 Sonics thing. Last thread, we had faggots just repeating Sonic 4 and generations aren't cannon because they dont like the, and called CD a spinoff.
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Are the endings animated? Does each character have their own ending?
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>>387082208
Actually here's what I think is going on because there's no point in making mania sonic a duplicate classic sonic from another dimension.

It's far more likely that robotnik is the one from a new dimension because that would actually have a point.
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>>387083635
>>387083616
>>387083495
You're all so wrong it hurts, clearly the Classic Sonic isn't the real Sonic, it's the medic from the helicopter scene where Amy jumps out and the bomb in her uterus explodes, Classic Sonic is actually in a coma while his body double does the work in Mania and Forces for him.
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>>387084075
Wonder if this guy will get unreasonably pissed the game leads into Forces?
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>>387083995
I'm not talking about the "other dimension" part, I'm talking about you referring to him as Pint-Sized Sonic.
It's not a stretch, considering Infinite's apparently warps space and time

>>387084024
>>387084027
If you're theories are correct then, assuming the original Classic isn't in the game, why does it matter?
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mania threads gone to shit
they were the confiest threads ever before the leak
it was nice spending my time with you classicbros
i say bye to the ones staying
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>>387084232
You're wrong
Classic Sonic is Mario who went full retard and wanted Sonic's glory or it's just cybershell
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JUST FUCKING REVERT THE DELAY ALREADY

FUCK ARGGH AAAAAHHHHH FUCK SEGA
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>>387084232
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>>387084341
This is preferable to how they were a couple days ago.
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How the fuck do I filter this annoying tripfag?
I fucking forgot.
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>>387084270
fuck you for spoiling that
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>>387084232
>>387084402
>>387084442
No obviously Sonic Mania is just a VR mission used to train Classic Sonic in order to take on the Big Egg Shell
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>>387084158
then CD and 4 don't fit.
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>>387084232
So who is Infinite?
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>>387084425
Do you have a friend with a next gen console anon? You can play with them while you wait..
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hurr
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>>387084592
>2017
>Referring to 8th gen console as Next-Gen

Why?
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>>387083406
This looks great. Why are people upset at Force again?
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>>387080679
Game is going to run the same on either console, but at least the Switch version would have portability going for it.
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>>387084547
Infinite is really Silver the Hedgehog using Mighty the Armadillo's arm as a prosthetic, he underwent extensive hypno-therapy to make himself believe he's a being called Infinite. The final boss battle is actually a fist-fight between Sonic and Infinite where the music goes through all the previous games in the series, ending with Infinite saying that's he's the real FAKER.
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>>387084635
You KNOW what I meant you idiot.
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>>387084667
Only so-called "classic-fags" are.
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>>387084469
Nevermind just remembered. Ah, feels good not to see that cancerous trip/namefag
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>>387084539
CD is a sidestory that's between 1 and 2 and not even sonic team cares about 4
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NEW SONIC GAME COMING OUT IN TWO FUCKIN DAYS

GET HYPE BOYS

THAT INCLUDES YOU PC FAGGOTS

GET EXCITED TO WATCH PEOPLE PLAY IT GET EXCITED TO ANTICIPATE IT MORE ON PC AND PROBABLY WITH EXTRA PERKS SINCE YOU WERE FORCED TO WAIT

OR BETTER YET BUY IT ON A CONSOLE TO DOUBLE THE GAME SALES

YOU WANT THIS GAME TO DO WELL DON'T YOU

WELL THEN YOU BETTER FUCKING GET HYPE AND STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELVES

THE SONIC SERIES IS ON THE BRINK OF A SILVER AGE WHICH COULD LEAD TO A GOLDEN AGE IF SHIT WORKS OUT

DON'T LET THAT ASSHOLE MARK DEFEAT YOU WE'VE SURVIVED SO MUCH WORSE THAN THIS MINOR SETBACK

GET HYPE
E
T

H
Y
P
E
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>>387084635
delusion and buyers remorse
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>>387080305
I've been uploading playthroughs of some of the games with commentary to prepare for Mania (to bad I'm on PC and got fucked over, no chance of getting seen 2 weeks later). Now the question I got is this, are there any mods that improve Sonic 4 (specifically episode 1) or Knuckles Chaotix? On the chaotix side I'd really like a way to remove the randomness of stage selection/character picking.

Stuff so far
Sonic 3 Complete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTBZ4y-MHaQ
Sonic 2 (Remake): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6I1TC5sKag
Sonic CD (Steam): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK3VFegjaOo
Sonic 1 (Remake): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkiKcO4wjuo
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>>387084616
Classic Sonic universe Forces doesn't exist
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>>387084758
it feels good posting as anon. I Don't even use my trip most of the time.
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>>387082803
>It was even confirmed in an interview that originally the physics were similar to the classic but they wouldn't work well due to hardware limitation
Source
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>>387084778
>extra perks
O BOI I CANT WAIT FOR SONIC FUCKING 1 AGAIN THANKS SEGA

HYPE
Y
P
E
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>>387081207
It's cool for a while, but like a lot of unfinished hacks the custom levels just stop halfway through, at that point it's boring.
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>>387084778
As a boost/speed fag. Mania's ending hyped me for Mania and hyped me even more for Forces. let the golden age begin.
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>>387084232
>Tails, I'm already a Shadow
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>>387084778
I WANT TO BELIEVE
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>>387084778
Thanks for epic post, but you have to go back
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>>387084892
THAT'S THE SPIRIT YOU PIECE OF SHIT I DON'T CARE IF YOU'RE BEING SARCASTIC FORCE THAT ENTHUSIASM UNTIL YOU FEEL IT BECAUSE THIS IS A REALLY GOOD TIME TO BE A SONIC FAN WHETHER YOU REALIZE IT OR NOT
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>>387084158
So Forces is a reboot that takes place in a new timeline?
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>>387084948
Post yfw you find out that Metal Sonic was commissioned from Eggman by the US Government in order to be used as a nuclear deterrent.
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how does mania connect with forces
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>>387080447
I'm a classicfag and enjoy the Adventure games. It's mostly younger people who are shitting on them.
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>>387084837
Put your trip/name back on I don't wanna see your cancerous posts anymore.
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>>387085141
They both rehash levels.
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>>387084778
Extra perks my ass
Hopefully it gets leaked early
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>>387084158
>there's no point in making mania sonic a duplicate classic sonic from another dimension.
Gives them an excuse to split the franchise in two directions from this point.
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>>387085041
It's not a reboot, it just looks like modern sonic and mania sonic are in an alternate timeline where shit hit the fan

It's a good explanation why chaos/shadow/etc are bad guys. But they could also be illusions because of how inanimate they are.
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>>387085275
Exactly, it's actually good for everyone. win win.
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>>387080305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojWjPJowkR4
Post 1 (one) track that is better than this.
Pro-tip: you can't
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>>387085171
make me.
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>>387085141
It's implied that the gem Eggman has for the majority of the game is the same gem that Infinite has.
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>>387085141
Infinite
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CAN YOU BUY IT ON THE ESHOP YET
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>>387085275
>Gives them an excuse to split the franchise in two directions from this point.

They could do that anyway

And having having a canon where mania sonic is not the 1/2/3&k sonic is a retarded slap to classicfags
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any ost rips yet
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>>387085457
Maybe they'll just do Zelda-esque split timeline shit?
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>>387085369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv7ywWsAWyg
That was easy.
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>>387085276
Well if that one leak that predicted the OC is to be believed, the reason the world has gone to shit is because Sonic has been missing in action
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>>387085275
>>387085457

>Gives them an excuse to split the franchise in two directions from this point.

And right now, they are using this dimensional shit to MERGE, not split, the classic and modern games they've made.
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>>387085457
>where mania sonic is not the 1/2/3&k sonic
He is, after those games Sonic went in two directions, mania sonic is not the one who went on to the 3D games.
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>>387085369
Easy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm5iLGWqg4M
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>>387085457
Not really since that would mean Mania is non-canon therefore the real Classic Sonic is not connected to Modern Sonic/Forces
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>>387085564
No the actuality of the plot is that Mania and Forces both directly lead to Triple Trouble, because Zanzibar Land Zone is referenced in the ending cutscene and it's confirmed that Classic Sonic establishes Emerald Dogs while Modern Sonic establishes Zanzibar Land Zone and Outer Green Hill.
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>>387085609
>He is, after those games Sonic went in two directions, mania sonic is not the one who went on to the 3D games.

That's not what this the tripfag in this thread is arguing. He's saying mania sonic is a brand new sonic.
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>>387085609
We need a zelda timeline-esque chart
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>>387080371
>still haven't fixed CD being after 3&K
Stop posting this shit
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>>387085842
But CD is after 3 and knuckles, it's part of the 4 games.
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>>387085609
Mania Sonic goes to Forces
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>>387085807
Its not hard. Generations split the timeline into two threads leading to mania or Sonic4 with all the modern games. Mania then sends sonic to the timeline with Sonic 4 and all the modern games following it!
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>>387085727
How would just continuing to make classic games that take place after mania with no forces tie-in make anything non-canon? What are you talking about?
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>>387085881
Isn't it before 2?
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>>387085881
Put your name/trip back on
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>>387085041
Nobody officially knows of yet.
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>>387085369
Unfortunately I can't link anything cause there are STILL no rips,but Studiopolis act 2.
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>>387085508
Other than Chemical Plant Act 2 only one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZwCI9CuGU&t=38s
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>>387085965
>>387085881
Its before 2. This guys just shilling his retarded theory!
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>>387085727
>non-canon
That's not even possible. The events of Mania's plot have a direct effect on the events of Forces. It may take place in another timeline, but it's 100% canon.
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>>387085965
It is. Ignore that cancerous newfag.
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>>387085651
I personally thought this track was alright. It just sounds like a generic fan-made remix rather than an official cover, regardless if this is technically a fan-remix
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>>387086259
Both Forces and Mania are non-canon
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>>387086448
fuck off autist
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>>387086448
Are you the same guy that said that 4 and Generations aren't canon either? You're kinda full of shit dude.
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>>387086495
Fuck off newfag and put on your trip already
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>people are complaining about the plot and lore consistencies in two fucking sonic games that both aren't even out yet
And you wonder why people think the sonic fanbase is retarded.
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>2 DAYS
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>>387086149
thanks desu
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>>387086676
Once I finish this game I can finally die without regrets
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>Timeline discussions
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>>387080371
>posting all this dumb shit when there is an obvious canon timeline that doesn't require any outlandish nonsense
Forces having Classic Sonic be from another dimension is a retcon, plain and simple, to accommodate Mania and what they were planning with the story.
The Classic timeline goes 1 > CD > 2 > 3&K > (Generations?) > Mania > Forces
The Modern timeline goes (events parallel to the classic games, but with Modern Sonic) > 4 > (everything else) > Forces
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Why do people care about the story and timeline and shit?
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>Timeline
Sonic 1
Sonic CD
Sonic 2
Sonic 3K
Sonic Mania

viola
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>>387086805
Sonic Generations negates that modern/classic timeline theory, period.
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>>387086785
https://twitter.com/bradflick55/status/896202149742338048
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>>387086885
because 3 Sonics would be the best thing they could do, everyone wins.
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>>387086598
>>387086803
I'm sure it's just harmless, fun banter; something to wait until Mania and Forces' release.
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>>387086941
Which is a moot point because Generations' plot is retconned by Forces.
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>nobody points out Eggman found the gem almost literally on the beach of Angel Island
>opening scene is almost exactly like Sonic 3 minus Knuckles punching you

Spoilers: Mania is an alternate Sonic 3 & knuckles

I mean, when would Angel Island have fallen out the sky again in the Classic-Adventure timeline?
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>>387087049
It's literally stated that this takes place after S3K
also Knuckles already knows Sonic when the game begins
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>>387086941
Clearly, Generations takes place in an alternate timeline where Eggman found the Time Eater after the events of Sonic Colors.
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>>387087049
Sonic Adventure
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>>387087047
how?
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Will he like it?
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>>387087148
We know Mania happens after that mania timeline's Angel Island saga, not Sonic's, but Pint-Sized Sonic's.
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>>387087264
Literally who?
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>>387086803
Do we know if Amy is in Mania yet?
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>>387087264
Probably, he's the only good Sonic autist out there.
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>>387087342
If getting all gold medals doesn't then she's not in. But probably not.
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>>387087264
Probably.
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>>387087342
Amy Doll is.
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>>387087264
Of course he will. If he somehow tolerates Sonic 06 then yes. He's a big fan of Sonic 3 & K and doesn't really care for CD.
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>>387087264
What do you think?
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Is the ending online with all the chaos emeralds?
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>>387087524
Where do you think the timeline came from?
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>>387087403
So there's still a chance?
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>>387087524
Yes.
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>>387087049
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>>387087550
From retards?
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>>387087598
Theres always a chance. Remember, we got a Mean Bean mode so anythings possible.
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>>387087602
But what about all the gold medals?
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>>387087751
As far as I know, no.
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>>387084795
Play Advance.
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>>387087751
>expecting Mark to get every gold medal

He got 2 and gave up and is getting all the silver ones instead.
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>>387087656
I'll keep hoping then.
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>>387087751
Nope.

We also don't know if there are any differences in Tails or Knuckles playthroughs. There IS a "&knuckles" mode for getting enough gold medals.... and we don't know what that does.
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>can't play this game for TWO MORE WEEKS because the faggots are either incompetent or are adding DRM
If it's DRM I will pirate this bloody game like twenty times (that's twenty LOST SALES) SEGA, fuck you
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>>387087987
It isnt a lost sale. You were never going to buy it!
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>there's going to be a Super Peel-Out in Sonic Mania
IMAGINE THE SPEEDRUNS
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>>387087948
Some people were saying last thread that it lets Knuckles follow Sonic.
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>>387087987
you were never going to buy it
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If this posts end in an odd number I'll wait until the pc version comes out.

If even then fuck it I'll just get it for xbone.

If 0 then I wont buy the game at all.

LETS GO
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>>387088150
drop dash is faster for continued movement!
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>>387080450
As much as people want to rail on Mark for doing what basically anyone with streaming shit would do with an early game, it does fall back to Nintendo for having live codes in a retail unit, and for the retailer to break street date.

Though, it's funny that SEGA's been slapping people on YouTube who are re-hosting. Ironically, it feels like it helped them get more sales, the leak did.

The PC version though is bullshit. I wonder if that's Sega Europe's doing since they're usually the PC devs.
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>>387087987
Why stop at 20? obviously you pirating multiple copies = multiple profit losses for sega. M<ight as well download it 1000 times
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>>387088184
Better rev up that Xbone.
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>>387087948
>>387088164
The &knuckles mode better put the &knuckles text on every fucking string in the game and have knuckles follow you as the AI, even if you play as knuckles already.
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>>387088224
The unlocks are getting some people to go back on being a pirate
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>>387088184
MANIA HERE I COME FUCK IT

GOOD LUCK PC KEKS
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>>387088131
>>387088173
Yes I fucking was, pirating games is for poorfag Brazillians
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>>387088341
Look at you, being a poorfag Brazilian
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>>387088341
But you are in Brazil right now, your IP says so.
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>>387088150
The Super Peel-Out move is really redundant. It triggers my autism knowing that i'm not going at full speeds taking those peel-out sprites in consideration.
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>>387088302
They better change Sonic's sprite to Knuckles too
and every badnik to have Knuckles face with adding go-go-go from Launch Base zone
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>>387088276
>set up bot to download and delete the game for me hundreds of thousands of times
>suddenly SEGA's millions in debt
That'll learn em
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>>387086785
Hesse was a mistake
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>>387088276
Why stop at 1000? Let's pirate the game to make them lose sales one million times!
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What top 5 zones are you guys looking forward to playing the most?
1. Press Garden
2. Stardust Speedway
3. Metallic Madness
4. Studiopolis
5. Flying Battery
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>Realizes that Blue Spheres Unlocks New shit like moves
>Realizes that there is a lockon file that annons found a day or two ago
>Also Realizes that Mania is Linked to Forces.
>Maybe the moves you unlock in mania can be transfered to forces
>Gives Force Fags a not so good reason to buy a game they will be bad at since force fags = modern sonic fags that dont = classic fags.
>YFW
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>>387088536
>rings and chaos emeralds are all just knuckles head in various colors.
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>>387084778
>extra perks
The extra perks being denuvo, and sonic 1.
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>>387086805
>The Classic timeline goes 1 > CD > 2 > 3&K
Fixed
Mania/Generations/Forces are non-canon crossovers
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>>387088725
1. Metallic Madness
2. Studiopolis
3. Flying Battery
4. Hydrocity
5. Mirage Saloon
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So when exactly is the game out? Is it simultaneously world wide on every console or is it somehow timezone dependent?
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God I fucking hate Iizuka
Why can't this ugly gook just stop fucking shit up?
He should just leave the classic and modern universes alone and stop trying to autistically merge/connect them
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>>387088816
Wrong buddy. Sorry the truth hurts your feelings.

>>387088994
Only one we know comes out at midnight the 15th is PS4.
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>>387088725
1.Studiopolis
2.Press Garden
3.Metallic Madness
4.Hydrocity
5. Stardust Speedway
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>>387088725
1. Hydrocity
2. Metallic Madness
3. Flying Battery
4. Mirage Saloon
5. Lava Reef

I'm way more excited for the bosses though.
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>>387081878
and thats exactly the point.

during one of the first streams, some trolls said, im gonna pirate.

seems that was enough for sega to screw us over.
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>>387088131
>>387088173
Like fucking clockwork
You shills need to be hanged from a bridge
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>>387089045
By making it 3 Sonics, he's doing just that. He is separating 3 different gameplay styles as 3 separate characters, that's not a bad thing.
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>>387089194
Jokes on you, I died on the toilet last week. i'm a ghost.
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>>387089063
There is no truth. There's no real continuity that makes sense so we pretty much have to make our own canon.
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>>387089194
>implying people that post on /v/ are even alive to begin with
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Is there seriously only 12 zones?
super disappointing if true
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>>387089214
No he is not
We didn't need a 3rd sonic and we didn't need Mania to be connected to Forces

This faggot is trying to merge the universes together
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>eggman is dick
>sonic save world
>the end
Why the fuck are you guys sperging out over this shit?
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>>387089383
Yeah, and literally only 2 new ones. There are 4"new" zones, but one of them is a finalized CD remaster zone (Saloon) and the other one is from a prior taxman work, slightly re-skinned (garden).
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>horribly sick
>feel half dead
>definitely not going to be better by tuesday
So I have the option of playing Mania while feeling miserable, possibly ruining my first experience
OR I could lay in bed and try to get well quicker, while being angry and bitter about how I could be playing Mania

what do, anons
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>>387089415
We kinda needed Mania to connect to forces, otherwise forces would have Sonic from the past in a time travel game again which would have made no sense. a different sonic from another dimension makes more sense.
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>>387089548
Play your favorite classic game. Did you have fun while being sick? Then play Mania.
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>>387089501
RIP. oh well. was hoping for something to finally dethrone s3&k but seems the sonic cycle comes true once again
hopefully sega lets taxman make a true new game
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>>387089458
Dumb Moco Poster
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>>387089383
Well they said it was comparable to Sonic 3&K.
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GUYS, GUYS, SHUT THE FUCK UP FOR A SECOND

WHAT IF... NOW I MAY BE GRASPING AT STRAWS HERE

WHAT IF BOTH THE OLD AND NEW TIMELINES ARE SIMILAR, EXCEPT IN CLASS SONIC'S UNIVERSE HE NEVER GROWS UP BECAUSE OF THE TIME STONES FUCKARY?

THE TIMELINES SPLIT BETWEEN NEW SONIC RESTARTING EVERYTHING SO IT NEVER HAPPENED AND CLASSIC SONIC FAILED TO COLLECT ALL THE STONES
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>>387089567
No it doesn't. Forces shouldn't be canon in the first place.
Enough with the stupid crossover games.
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>>387089501
You don't know what literally means. And even if you want to bullshit that Desert Dazzle was reused, Egg Garden and Press Garden are super different. Might as well say it's a Marble Garden reskin at that point.
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>>387089501
So is Hidden Palace what lack of that zone is not new to S3&K because it was planned for Sonic 2?
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>>387090064
More like 28.5 hours remain, buddy.
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>>387089501

>All the cucks who replayed all the classic sonic games recently
>mfw havent played a classic sonic game since 2009
>all the zones basically feel new to me

That's what you get for being autistic
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>>387089864
>sonic used the Time Stones to kickstart Sonic Forces
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>>387089864
>EXCEPT IN CLASS SONIC'S UNIVERSE HE NEVER GROWS UP
He's 16 years old in the classics you cancerous cocksucker
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>>387089758
You make a good point. I really wouldn't want to miss out.
>>
I've never played CD so Metallic Madness and Stardust Speedway are practically new zones to me, so I'm not even disapointed with the level selection.
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>>387090064
Torrents for PC version when?
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>>387090139
Technically, Hidden Palace in S3K isn't a full zone and serves different purpose, unlike what was planned for Sonic 2
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>>387090342
Does the word slow really trigger him?
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>>387090435
Nothing of value was lost, CD is shit
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>>387090435
Why not just play CD?
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reminder that tails is the strongest character in class sonic universe with no weakpoints
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>>387090546
Get bent CDhater-kun
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So when exactly will the game be downloadable on PSN? Midnight? Pls help
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>>387090618
But he fucking died canonically.
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>>387090549
I was never interested, and looking at the level maps, they sure as hell aren't helping sway me.
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>>387090549
>>387090636
Why would you want someone to play CD, it's shit outside of a few acts that are decent and the music which you can just listen on youtube.
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>>387090754
It's a good game just sort of different to the 1/2/3
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>>387090636
Get a better taste, nostalgiafag
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Anyone have a screencap of of cancelling sonic mania on steam?

I need one for reasons
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>>387090787
Shut the fuck up CDhater-kun. CD is a good game just not as good as 1/2/3k.
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>>387090686
your mom canonically died in my arms last night
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>>387090909
>using nostalgiafag unironically
Kill yourself
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>>387090941
https://youtu.be/8ZIOkbrX_uU
Not quite a fit, but I saw my chance and had to take it.
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>>387090930
I place CD at the top with 3&K, personally.
>>
Apparently Mark said he'd stream later tonight with & Knuckles mode

Prepare to bombard him to let us finally see the Chemical Plant bosses again
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>tfw you get stuck listening to Sonic CD's OST
Fuck. This is gonna take me at least an hour to shake.
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>>387091261
"YAAAAAAAAAY"
- Palmtree Panic, Sonic CD
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>>387090437
the worst case? the very same 2 weeks.

lets face it, we are fucked, im sure the retard and the trolls, and sega are laughing at us.
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>>387091173
To me
3K>1>2>CD
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>>387090930
>is good but not as good
so, its mediocore or even bad? good to know
>>387091173
>someone is right, I should tell him to kill himself as soon as possible
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I'm replaying CD before Mania comes out, and I was just about to hit that awful part of Metallic Madness 2 where you have to sloooowly make your way down and then go through that long mandatory shrunken section. Then it suddenly hits me that maybe I can get these pistons to launch me over the top of the stage by timing my Peel-Out just right, and it fucking worked.

Sonic CD is pretty cool sometimes
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>>387091412
It's not fair
>>
REMINDER THAT NINTENDO ESHOP UNLOCKS IN NA AT 12 AM EST, SO IF YOU'RE IN A DIFFERENT TIMEZONE YOU GET IT BEFORE MIDNIGHT. PSTFAGS ARE LUCKY WITH 9 PM.
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>>387091357
"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!"
- Palmtree Panic Good Future, Sonic CD

"HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE"
- Stardust Speedway Bad Future, Sonic CD
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>>387091461
meant for >>387091038
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>>387090487
only if you call him slow
he's totally fine with talking shit
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>>387091461
No it's not "mediocre" you fucking retard. It's a good game but more flawed compared to the genesis trilogy.
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CD has horrible level design, a gimmick that doesn't fucking work with the level design and terrible bosses.
Why do people like this game outside of the music?
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>He hasn't beaten Collision Chaos Round 3 in under three seconds
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>>387091569
source for eshop midnight?
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>>387091572
You're not right at all. You're fucking cancer that's what you are.
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>>387091570
"SONIC, DEAD OR ALIVE, IS M-M-MINE"
- Metallic Madness Bad Future, Sonic CD
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>>387091261
>>387091357
>JP soundtrack
Don't make me call the gay police to arrest you fags

https://youtu.be/JC7hYTr4GZk
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>PC fats
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>>387091729
I've been a Nintendo fag my whole life and have been buying 3DS and Wii U games on day 1 since 2012.
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>>387091809
Why is the US ost so fucking bad holy shit, why did they even go through the trouble of making a new ost anyway
>>
>>387091809
This is ok, but YAAAAAAAAAAAAY is better.
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>>387091634
>its good but more shit than genesis trilogy and even sonic 1, please stop shitting on cd and my taste!
>>387091745
CD fags are cancer, nothing you can do about it
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>>387088725
1. Studiopolis
2. Stardust Speedway
3. Titanic Monarch
4. Lava Reef
5. Metallic Madness
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>>387091778
"YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING SO DON'T EVEN TRY IT, GET SOME HELP"
- Metallic Madness Bad Future, Sonic CD
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>>387091809
Literally fuck the U.S. soundtrack except for Tidal Tempest Bad Future, Collision Chaos Good Future, Wacky Workbench Bad Future, Wacky Workbench Good Future, and the Special Stage music.
Palmtree Panic and the rest of the Collision Chaos tracks are fucking shit. Sonic Boom is alright.
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>>387091429
I think CD is on par with S&K for different reasons. Sonic 3 is the worse half of 3&K imo and I almost feel that ranking them as 3&K is unfair for a lot of reasons (such as length), but to some extent S&K needs 3 to be as good as it is in the first place. That said, CD has great visuals and amazing music that sets it in stone as one of my favorites. Its level design is not bad, only different and more physics-oriented, and I can't dock points from the game for that until either Wacky Workbench or Metallic Madness come into play. Those zones are a black spot on a game that is great everywhere else. S&K on the other hand has some of the best zones contained in a single game and it is pure speedy platforming goodness with a charming aesthetic of its own and some great tracks like Lava Reef even though clearly CD pulls ahead in that department because it's not as technically limited.
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>>387091482
yo dawg how u metal sonic
is mod???
>>
>>387091639
Because it's a good game you piece of fucking shit.

The time travel mechanic was revolutionary and ballsy at the time, the vocal songs/animated sequences were new at the time.

Of course it's a flawed game because it was made shortly after Sonic 1 with a different team and they still hadn't figured out Sonic fully yet.

The concept is good though not as well executed as it could have been due to it being developed by the B team.

For example a simple thing that would massively improve Sonic CD would be having the ability to turn a signpost you collect(past/future) on and off so that you don't have to awkwardly slow down to not accidentally time travel when you don't want to for example which imo is one of the biggest issues with the game.
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>>387092087
"*incoherent screeching in the background*"
- Quartz Quadrant Bad Future, Sonic CD
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>>387091809
>Using US Palmtree Panic as an example.
One of the definite Japanese soundtrack improvements. Use these instead:
https://youtu.be/GPTKTk7hnL0
https://youtu.be/tP4nwtc7kkE
https://youtu.be/0MVMzq_3Q-A

>>387091942
Sega had set up their US music branch or something along those lines and wanted to show off.
A number of Sega CD games (such as the Batman games, Spider-Man vs the Kingpin, Ecco The Dolphin) share the same composers. You can even sorta hear the style in two other songs one of the composers (Spencer Nilsen) did.
https://youtu.be/SPSLow8iyOk
https://youtu.be/ng9dHR0k2H4
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>>387092049
You're even more cancerous than them
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>>387083887
My favorite Sonic is Sonic's Mania Mania Sonic!
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>>387092196
>Splitting 3K
Fuck off
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>>387092437
They're on different carts with individual pricing and Sonic 3 has an ending when not locked. They're different games and should be ranked that way, cuck.
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>>387092437
>getting angry over calling two different games two different games
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What time does this become downloadable on PSN?????
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>>387092245
> it was made shortly after Sonic 1
You mean, a year later after Sonic 2?
>>387092342
You can't be more cancerous than cdcucks, even nintendobros are better than you
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>>387092573
You can pre-load it now. You can play at midnight on the 15th
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>>387091942
SEGA USA had just built a fancy new recording studio and thought that the JP soundtrack wasn't "x-treeeme" enough or something similarly stupid. So, they replaced the bouncy, catchy JP soundtrack with the lifeless, meandering US soundtrack.
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>>387092289
"THREE, TWO, ONE"
- Palmtree Panic Bad Future, Sonic CD
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>>387092742
ty
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>>387085881
>implying
Little planet comes and goes, events of CD happen after 2, Eggman holds onto the timestone until it's return, after 3.
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>>387092886
"HIT IT"
- Stardust Speedway, Sonic CD
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>>387084728

That would be a bad*ss final fight
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>>387083327
Sonic Mania is between 1 and 2?
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>>387092667
It was developed the same time as Sonic 2. That was part of the reason Sonic 2's time-travel gimmick got scrapped (and possibly why Toot Toot Sonic Warrior is a remix of Sonic 2 8-bit's Green Hills Zone)

>>387092753
Basically this minus the part about the US soundtrack being lifeless and meandering. I prefer it since it feels like it fits the more 'surreal' atmosphere than the more energetic JP soundtrack, not to say either are bad.
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Sonic is NOT canon.
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Sonic was NEVER good
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>>387093207
>>387093351
Try again samefag
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>>387092216
yeah dawg, is mod
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>>387093351
You know, people say this, but never explain why the "fast animal mascot with attitude" genre never took off.
Like, how would the people who say that feel about stuff like Awesome Possum?
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Question Mania Niggas, im a uk boy so if i got a australian eshop on my switch, could i get mania on the 14th depending if there is a midnight unlock for the game?
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>>387093665
Probably, depending on if what >>387091569 says applies.
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>>387093175
>the reason Sonic 2's time-travel gimmick got scrapped
Thanks god
And yet, they had more time than 2
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A lot of people like to talk about Somecallmejohnny, but one Sonic youtuber I think is pretty overlooked is The Geek Critique. He's done videos on other series like Donkey Kong Country and more recently the 2D Metroid games, but he's done pretty great critiques/anaylsis on the classic Sonic games, as well as Sonic Adventure. You can see he has a lot of passion for these games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDPi_Mc51Ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8VnqFPVyCo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isZJyXU7R5o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tjw670RP_Pw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVtcpK819no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQGMWydeecg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZO2P3HVUD4
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Has the austistic leak fag unlocked anything new since the Mean Bean Shit?
Ive been gone for a few so i dunno if anythings changed.
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But can you unlock pink knuckles or did Iizuka cuck us all with his hedgehogs only BS
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how long after the game comes out can we expect a mod for Blue Knuckles? thanks
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>>387094141
Since you can collect the emeralds with all characters i belive that Iizuka hasnt cucced us and Pink Kuckles and Bird Lover Tails can be unlocked.
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>>387092534
>>387092559
They are not 2 different games they are one game
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>>387092667
>You mean, a year later after Sonic 2?
Nope
CD was in development at the same time as Sonic 2 and the latter was rushed to make it in time for holiday of 1992.

There were originally plans for Sega CD ports of Sonic 1 and 2 but they canceled those plans in favor of an original new game.
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>>387094458
CD is actually a big remix of Sonic 1 if you think about it
All the zones except Marble Zone have a counterpart
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>>387093175
>That was part of the reason Sonic 2's time-travel gimmick got scrapped
No it wasn't. Yasuhara didn't even know about CD using time travel. The time travel concept for Sonic 2 was scrapped because of time constraints(they had to release Sonic 2 by late 1992)
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>>387093783
The time travel concept in Sonic 2 was completely different
Read this
https://forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=36719

It was gonna be more of a linear experience...like for example I believe Hill Top was gonna be the past version Emerald Hill(which makes sense why Hill Top is a palette swap of Emerald Hill)

Sonic 2 was gonna be far more grandiose that it ended up being but the suits at Sega told them to cancel those plans to make it in time for the 1992 Holidays.
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>>387094541
Oh, yeah. my mistake.
Still, they were in development at the same time (hence the Tails easter egg)

>>387094529
According to those assets Taxman found and the ending cutscene, R2 was supposed to be Marble Zone's equivalent.
.
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>>387093792
Cybershell is the only Sonic youtuber that matters
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>>387094529
>CD is actually a big remix of Sonic 1 if you think about it
Stardust Speedway and Quartz Quadrant don't(SS is very different from Star Light)

But even Sonic 2 and 3 have some "rehashed" zones like Emerald Hill being a literal Green Hill clone.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXSB8NbEV0A
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>>387094887
>Primarily-speed focused zone taking place in the sky of a city
>Even has a few of the same badniks like the bomb

>But even Sonic 2 and 3 have some "rehashed" zones like Emerald Hill being a literal Green Hill clone.
"Some" is the keyword.
Pretty much every zone aside from Quartz Quadrant and Wacky Workbench mirror a Sonic 1 zone. Even the feel is closer to Sonic 1 (Tidal Tempest having switches in certain places, Collision Chaos having spring yards (heh), not-quite being a casino but having signs everywhere and even having two exits in one of the acts, etc.)
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>>387094986
It's time for (You) to kill yourself.
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Reminder that people who post about and recommend cybershell are the exact same people who act like cybershell.
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>>387084075
Cringey
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>>387088725
in order, most interested first:
>stardust speedway
>studiopolis
>metallic madness
>chemical plant
>titanic monarch

honestly, I'm kind of disappointed with the art for the new zones
Studiopolis looks amazing, but it's also the one they've worked on longer than all the rest, being part of their initial pitch for the game, and act 2 doesn't look as nice.
Mirage Saloon looks good, but it's an updated version of Desert Dazzle, something Taxman already had assets for.
Press Garden looks kind of ugly. The palette is a bit garish in particular.
Titanic Monarch doesn't really seem that cool overall, although it doesn't look bad.

>>387088772
the amount of people who got Mania on PC and have a toaster that barely runs Generations at 20fps is gonna be staggering
they're gonna have a shit time if they play Forces on PC for the lock-on if that's an actual thing

>>387092437
that anon acknowledges it as combined, and simply mentions which half is better (you'd need to be autistic if you want him to say "Mushroom Hill onward" instead of "S&K" or "Launch Base and earlier" instead of "S3") and acknowledges that the S&K half still needs the S3 half
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>>387094780
I can't stand that guy. He swears like a grade schooler.
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Why is Angel Island in the ocean at the beginning of Mania?
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>>387095182
>implying that's not cybershell cybershilling himself
Now fuck off cybershell
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>>387094264
>>387094141
Facebook
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>>387094986
>Volunteered at a baseball league for special needs kids once
>They play random music over the speakers
>mfw this fucking song comes up
What is it with Sonic and autism?
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>>387095527
this is canon now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaKNV71gF2c
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>>387095556
I'd imainge it has something to do with autistic children seeing them in a sexual way during puberty but not understanding properly what they are feeling.
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>>387095158
Well the zones in CD definitely look different enough for me...except for Tidal Tempest.
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>>387095279

It looks great and the music is perfect.

Definitely feels way too much like a romhack because they got too hung up on reusing assets to nostalgia pander

TM is definitely the weakest level, including its music.

The super sonic boss fight is a letdown compared to s3&k

Enjoyed it, but it's only worth $20. They should have been more original.
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>>387095182
I wish I was as cool as Cybershell-senpai
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>>387092087
"DON'T DO WHAT SONIC DOES"
- Metallic Madness Bad Future, Sonic CD
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>>387095319
He does that to keep kiddies like you away
You need to be 18 to post here
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>>387096140
Young kids swear constantly because they think it makes them look mature.
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>>387096216
Anon

Why are you replying to bait?
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Reminder that the true final boss music takes queues from the Sonic Forces theme
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Say, is the cutscene in Angel Island implying the Hardboiled Heavies were enlighted and transformed by the gemstone instead of being made by Eggman? No wonder the Emperor turns at him by the end.
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>>387096330
Will Forces play Mania's title screen theme in its final boss?
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>>387096216
Exactly. It's like whenever I say "I like dick in my ass," people automatically think I'm gay.
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>>387096532
no
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>>387096436
That seems to be it. They were just Eggrobos before the gem warped everything.
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>Mfw we still dont have footage of this boss yet
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>>387096934
>no footage
Are you stupid?
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>>387096934
what was act 1's boss?
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>>387086785

of all the characters what makes knuckles so memeable
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>>387081178
Mean Bean Machine mode is the second thing on the Extras menu. Lets you play against CPU or against another player.

Also, we found out that the Super Peel-Out and Insta-Shield can only be used in No Save mode. Also, neither of them can be combined with each other, or with the Drop Dash.
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>>387096662
I think ive figured it.
Hard to get it in text though but basically
we have the usual CHAOS emeralds and the new Gem works on a reality warping level as its a simply a D20. It fucks with probability and the multiverse!
I think referring to as the D20 would be a good term as d20s are all about chance, it goes toe n toe with chaos!
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>>387097075
WAIT THERE IS??

POST IT
POST IT
POST IT
POST IT
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>>387097323
No
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>>387097224
>Super Peel-Out
hold up what
FUCK yees
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>>387093792
I like how every single fucker that makes a "Sonic is better than Mario!" video never fails to compare Sonic to the very first Mario game and completely ignore every Mario game that came after.

Maybe one day one of these fuckers will make a Sonic vs Mario 3 video and I'll be able to see opinions on that. Or god forbid Sonic vs Mario World.
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>>387097420
welcome to the other night :P
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>>387097420
It's literally the first thing you unlock from the bonus stages.
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Convince me to double-dip for Mania, /v/.
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>>387097524
>>387097493
i stopped following marks stream after the first night
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Am I the only one here that thinks titanic monarch looks good?

I've always liked carnival night's graphics and color palette but bad music and bumper corridors make it an annoying level

TM could play like shit and it could be orbital slingshots : the stage. But it's so dark and glowy. And looks like a badass high-tec Mcdonalds, I like that unironically for some reason.
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>tfw no work on tuesday
>tfw not a pc fag
>tfw just got a nice fat paycheck

where were you when (true sonic fans) got btfo?
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>>387097409
Too late I found it.
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>>387097178
Knuckles is a fool.
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>>387097710
Good, no need to spoonfeed you
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>>387097638
I want to see someone fucking kill the heavies in the robotnik boss fight, You can clearly damage them!
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>>387097224
Oh yeah, also forgot to mention: Debug mode is an unlockable as well.
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>>387097793
Thanks a lot, knucklehead
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>>387097580
no
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>>387097580
If you don't, I'll kill Taxman
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>>387097638
I like it. It's got a CD feel to it, like something beyond a bad future.
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>>387097078
Nobody knows or seems to care apparently
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>>387097580
Switch for portability and playing in bed (/comfy/)
PC for mods and achievements n shit
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>>387098029
act 1 was a mix between the Ice cap miniboss and the Metropolis ACT2 boss!
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>>387098037
>denuvo
>mods
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>>387098037
>PC for mods
Don't put up hope for this, it could be cockblocked by Denuvo if that really is the reason for the PC version's delay.
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Footage of Titanic Monarch Act 2 is up on youtube now.
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>>387098037

>switch version is the only one without achievements

the definitive platform
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>>387095182
I swear, I didn't even like his videos. It just fucking grew on me and now I like him.
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>>387098156
>denuvo
I'll laugh at all of you who thinks they'll implant fucking denuvo
But if they, I'll laugh at sega for falling for denuvo memes and I'll say sorry for laughing at you
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>>387087049
>I mean, when would Angel Island have fallen out the sky again in the Classic-Adventure timeline?
Knuckles' bad ending at the end of Sonic 3 & Knuckles have Angel Island landing again and since Knuckles' path can only exist if Sonic & Tails got the bad ending, I wouldn't be surprised if he got it too.
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Reminder than companies can shit on customers all they want and they don't care. Abstaining from buying mania does nothing to change Sega's practices. You are powerless. Sales will jump again even after DRM is proven.
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>>387097638
I like that it both feels like a carnival and like the level itself is made out of eggrobo parts or something, like even the curved parts of the level are robotic eggman heads, as if eggman himself somehow became a level
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>>387089383
That's actually a lot for a 2D Sonic.
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So what platforms are y'all getting it for?

Xbox One for me via collector's edition, but I'm still deciding wether to get it for Switch or not.

On a semi-related note, I will be giving away an Xbox One copy of the game this week right here on /v/.
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>>387098630
oh my god.. look at all these false sonic fans
sonic will never be good again
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>>387097802
>they take 256 hits to kill
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>>387097613
Monkey paw is you can only use unlocked moves in no save mode.
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>>387090210
The old zones are heavily reworked so they should still feel new anyway.
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>>387097638
Wait people don't like it? It's like the best parts of all the mechanical stages with some added flow for the fun of it. It looks like its going to be my favorite end game zone.
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>>387096330
I listened to both and am not really hearing similarities
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>>387098401
What? How is Knuckles' path in S3K after the bad ending of Sonic & Tails route? The island stays in the water at the end of S&T's bad ending, whereas in Knuckles' route, you can see the island floating (but slowly falling) in the background of Sky Sanctuary.
Knuckles' route clearly takes place after S&T's good ending where the Eggrobo managed to steal the Master Emerald.
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>PC version delayed
Hehe
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>>387089383
S3&K is 2 games put together and makes the largest sonic game. It only had 12 full length zones.

The acts are long and each act has a boss fight.

It's $20.

There's not a single sonic game in existence that comes close to that value in terms of quantity of content.
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>>387099083
that's the level select, right?
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>>387099197
>Anything better than Chaos Angel/Altar Emerald/Nonaggression
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>>387099403
>Chaos Angel Act 2 (or was it 3?)
It has god-tier atmosphere though.
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>>387099298
This needs to be said more so just adding:

In the beginning of 1994 my parents bought Sonic 3 full price for $59.99 and later that year bought &K for another $59.99.

Sonic 3, a full priced game had almost half the zones Sonic 2 had. Same goes for &Knuckles.

Mania is the single most content rich classic Sonic title ever released.
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>>387099403
>>387099531
>Advance sequels
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>>387099680
>filename

You fucked up retard, only 1 (you) for (you)
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>>387099218
By bad ending I mean regular emeralds ending, not Super emeralds, the Eggrobo only appears at the end of those.

After that you can guess that Knuckles didn't gather the emeralds, otherwise we would have them at the start of Mania and Angel Island landing again would explain why Sonic and Tails rush back to it at the start of Mania since they know something must've happened for it to land once more.
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>>387099727
honestly people need to remember this shit
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>>387099531
It's boss was pretty hype too
https://youtu.be/2Swz5AlayjE
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>>387099739
>tfw no Advance game with the gameplay of 1 but the level variety of 2 & 3
Sonic Advance Mania when?
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>>387099779
Wouldn't Sonic know why the island fell again by the fact that he saves Knuckles at the end of his story? Why would they need to go back?
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>>387099915
I want want partner system back.
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>>387099915
It's called Sonic 4
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>>387099983
There's no grinding or tricks in Sonic 4
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>>387099983
Delete this
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>>387099779
All Chaos emeralds isn't the bad ending. It's the same ending you get with vanilla S&K.
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>>387099680
I want to feed Amy copious amounts of food RIGHT NOW
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Why the fuck are people talking about a dude who LPed the genesis trilogy years ago all of a sudden.
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>>387100696
he made 'jokes' that appealed to the simple mind people of /v/ so the not mania generall sucks him off and not that dude has a patreon cuz of his underage army
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So, how long until the OST gets released?
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>>387101008
1 day
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Reminder that according to Ars Technica the review embargo is lifted as of Monday so get ready for plenty of shitposts regarding reviews.
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>>387101109
Oh baby.
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WHEN WILL MARK STREAM KNUCKLES
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE HIM TO GET THE GAME
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>>387080447
I honestly think that they're fun but its really annoying when trying to actually get around the hub world. That and Sonic should've never had voice acting in the first place.
>>
11 hours left
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>>387101208
Monday 12PM EST
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>>387087049

https://youtu.be/X5NayuhDSsg
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>unlocks are only usable in no save mode
defend this
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>>387101678
I honestly can't, that's really fucking stupid. You should be able to go all Sonic 3 Complete and have the Insta Shield, Peel Out, and Drop Dash all at once, in a saves game.
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>>387101678
Only retarded cdcucks would defend this
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>>387101678
you were only able to do things like enable the S3 shields and remove the speed cap in no-save mode in Taxman's S1 port, so it's got precedent

it's a bit lame though
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>>387101964
That goes for debug mode aswell, i can defend it when it applies to debug mode cus if you unlock debug mode, go into a new save and debug all stages and find all special stage rings and secrets, it would break the game if you could just hop into Studiopolis and get like 4 emeralds.
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>>387101678
I can't, hopefully, someone mods it so you can use all the unlockables everywhere. That'll make me double dip for the PC version.
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>>387099298
>>387099727
>>387099843
To play devil's advocate, both 3 and S&K had six all new levels with completely new assets and gimmicks. The bulk of Mania is made up of recycled assets and repurposed stage gimmicks.
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>>387099218

With Sonic and/or Tails, and you collect all the Chaos Emeralds but not all the Super Emeralds, this leads to Knuckles game. Because The Master Emerald was recaptured by Robotics robots.

If you didn't collect all the Chaos emeralds, the game ends with Robotnik having the Master Emerald. BAD END.

If Sonic and/or tails collects all the supers, then that's the best ending.
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>>387102303
We need a mania 2 where izukas not involved so we can get all original levels, and not izuka trying to nostalgia pander fans.
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>>387101678
has the retard tried to start a new save sonic game?

maybe it works too in a new game save, not only in no save mode.
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>>387101678
On the one hand that's dumb, but on the other hand I don't think I've ever needed more than one sitting to beat any Sonic game. These aren't long games.
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>>387102345
I'm confused by you calling all chaos emeralds a bad ending. It's the same ending as S&K alone, and aside from 2 minor things (Knuckles doesn't look at you from a distance in Angel Island Zone and the Eggrobo rising from the rubble), it's the same ending as all super emeralds.
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>>387101678
Mark is a retard, I wouldn't say that 100% until other people start actually messing around.
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What does everyone here think about the music?
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>>387095440
>Asking for death in his Cybershill video
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>>387102667
I'd say its rather RIPS WHEN REEEEE
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>>387102667
I've deliberately avoided spoiling the music to myself (with one exception of Studiopolis act 1), so I'm going to be in for a treat once the game comes out.
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>>387102386
I actually don't mind the reused levels, I just think there should be less of them. Maybe have 7-8 original stages with 4-5 classic ones, and give the team a bigger budget so the classic stages can be more thoroughly reworked.
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>>387102736
100% This.
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>>387102810
Act 2s of the classic stages are practically completely different zones anyway. I think they did a great job remixing them.
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at what time does the switch eshop update?
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>>387100874
Let me tell you guys how much I FUCKING love Sonic 3 Complete. This romhack is polished as FUCK and it makes an already FUCKING great game, 3&K, even better than it was twenty FUCKING years ago. I'm glad as FUCK that there are so many people out there willing to continue to breath life into a series as FUCKING cool as Sonic, even when it seems the mainstream doesn't give a FUCK about him.
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>>387103021
Noonish. Mania is already on it though so it should become available at midnight.
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>>387102667
cool, sweet, and catchy
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>>387103117
Cybershell pls
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>>387083406
Has Robotnik always sounded like The Flying Dutchman from Spongebob?
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Okay /v/, suppose it's 1996 or 1997 and Sonic Mania has just released as-is for the Sega Saturn. How is it received? Are you personally happy with it?
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>>387102810
I'm more of the mind that reusing levels isn't the problem so much as Mania wound up with the SAME levels Generations and every other recent nostalgia geared Sonic game has reused. Green Hill needs to retire for a bit and I love Chemical Plant but it needs to have a sleepy time too.

... That said both of those zones now have the best versions of themselves in Mania so there we go I guess.
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>>387103175
What timezone for the American eShop?
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>>387103384
Midnight EST
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>>387103347
I imagine it'd be panned for trying to incite nostalgia for levels that are 7 years old at best,
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>>387103117
I liked it until it crashed right before the Launch Base bosses. I had 200 rings. I'm still mad.
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>>387102667
I can't wait for my vinyl to get here,
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>>387092129
I love both tracks, but I have to compliment the US OST on its darker tone which I felt fit a lot of the levels (especially the bad futures) better.
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>>387103419
Thanks
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>>387080371
CD is before 2.
That picture includes Sonic 4, and Sonic 4 takes place immediately after 3K, and 3K takes place immediately after 2 when the Death Egg crashes.
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>>387103352
I can agree with that. Chemical Plant doesn't bother me too much but I'm so sick of Green Hill Zone. They could have had Star Light or Marble and made it faster for the crybabies.

>>387103384
Midnight EST I believe.
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>>387103347
GamePro Magazine review excerpt:
>While the game is fun a flagship title being reduced to bargain bin 2D visuals really shows how out of touch Sega has become this generation.
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>>387103320
Since 2005 my dude.
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>>387099727
>Sonic 3, a full priced game had almost half the zones Sonic 2 had.
ah, but to make up for that, they were anywhere from twice to four times the size
like, a full S3 alone playthrough (without zips) takes only slightly less time than a full S2 playthrough, maybe 10 minutes less if you're loads better at S3 than you are at S2

>>387102667
the remixes for metallic madness are 11/10 great, hot damn
the main boss theme is also my favorite track in the game

>>387091809
>gay police
>posts one of the most uninspired, lame-ass fag songs in the game
sure, it's not really that bad
but fuck, it's so bland for the stage

>>387092336
aw yeah
Wacky Workbench's US song is brilliant.
it's honestly a ton better than the JP track
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>>387103619
This is a good point too. A 2D game in 1997? Reviewers would rip it to shreds. We'd all be laughing about how Mario could jump to 3D just fine, while Sonic 3D Blast was such crap that Sonic went back to 2D.
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Should I buy Mania for PS4 or PC? Delay aside.
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>>387100337
I'm so sorry
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>>387103619
You know, I'm really glad the whole era of "THE FUTURE IS NOW, EVERYTHING MUST BE 3D" ended. What a load of shit that was.
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>>387102810
I wouldn't mind either if there was a good reason to visit them, like starting the game in (just as an example) Emmerald Hill because Sonic just wanted to be there but then shit starts going down. Or you have to visit one part of Angel Island to get Knuckles. There was an attempt to make the zones fit in this game but (going with what people said before about how rushed this game feels in certain areas) it kinda stops bothering at some points.

That said, I'll always pick new zones if given the choice.
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>>387103793
How did Symphony of the Night do critically around that time?
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>>387093792
>>387097491
SMB3 vs Sonic 3 (& Knuckles)

Because if we are to be completely fair here then it needs to be the complete Sonic 3 as was intended. So that includes Knuckles as well. May have been expensive on release to get the true full experience but it isn't any different with modern games and their mountains of DLC content that take the base $60 game and make it up to $90 or more depending on the amount of DLC.

So with that said I think both games are pretty close and both are very deserving of all the praise they get. For me it is a lot more fun to just pick up and play Sonic 3 than it is to pick up and play SMB3. Objectively however I can see SMB3 possibly being the better game. What makes it even more impressive is if we are talking the NES version than it is an entire gen prior to Sonic 3.

However we can't deny that Sonic 3 (again the complete version) is a fantastically made game with great music and a fun story, characters, levels, etc. The platforming is extremely solid plus it is such a fun fast pace game. The levels also seamlessly (or the illusion that they are) being connected was also a huge plus. On the flip side SMB3 has great levels with more variety, more power ups and definitely more difficulty for sure.

So while objectively I can see SMB3 being the better game, subjectively I think I would lean towards Sonic 3 being the better game overall. It is okay to have preferences FYI.
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>>387103886
I think it's really just a "testing the water" with the new 2D Engine after the whole Sonic 4 fiasco.

If you can convince people with nostalgia that this is basically the same with a brand new set up, then you're free to make whatever 2D sonic games you want after that if the game is successful.
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>>387103793
>A 2D game in 1997? Reviewers would rip it to shreds.
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>>387090210
The zones are redone, so you just ended up being autistic yourself
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>PC version delayed
>I don't have a Switch
>I can sell my Wii U to buy a Switch
>but this mean that I won't be able to play Smash Bros until Smash Bros Deluxe
rip
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>>387080805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS4hdTMfkbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLqnyL-hMp8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXWopFJbCQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYk_9ULA6sE
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>>387103813
No need to apologize, that's actually pretty great.
I don't think the full image could fit into that little screen, though.

Also, what are you using to achieve this?
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>>387104034
Tons of praise and even a few GOTY awards. That anon has a shit memory because 2D games were still getting love.
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>>387097491
>>387104064
Oh yeah and SMB3 is the better game then World. World is fantastic in its own right and I probably prefer it too but SMB3 is as perfect a game as you can get.

Thread is almost dead but I'd say Sonic 3 n Knuckles definitely beats World both subjectively and objectively.
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>>387104186
Bliss-box 4 play. It's a universal controller adapter that has a tool to upload custom VMU images. It's really great.
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>>387104263
Not the anon you are talking to but I agree with this. 3&K definitely beats World (Sonic 2 possibly does as well) but again SMB3 it's a lot trickier. I think I like 3&K a tad more but it's a tough choice. Both are stellar.
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>>387104326
Sweet stuff, bro. I really like the rosy you did on there, although the actual source may be really degenerate
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>>387099185
>>387104097

The graphics are still more or less the same, it still doesn't feel the same. Face it you cucked yourself out of the better experience.
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Is it me or does the OST for Knuckles Chaotix sound very dull and uninspired? Reminds me of those old cellphone ringtones in the early 2000's.
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>>387104034
>>387103793

I think the difference between Castlevania and Sonic is the latter is inherently a bigger deal.

Castlevania is just kind of a random video game franchise in comparison. Sonic, on the other hand, was the mascot of SEGA, who was still a major player in the console market of that era. He was their Mario. And quite frankly, having Sonic remain in 2D while the character he was designed to be the ultimate rival against made the jump to 3D would of made SEGA look pretty weak back then. After Mario 64, there kind of was no turning back.

But I guess it still would of been better for the Saturn instead of shit like 3D Blast or R.
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>>387104074
Actual review from IGN in 1997
>While its retro 2D graphics may have off-put some PlayStation gamers at first, anyone owning a 16-bit system can easily appreciate the greatness of Konami's Castlevania: Symphony of the Night. Konami took the side-scrolling idea to its fullest in this title. The game's enormous maps, huge range of weapons, constant enemies, and excellent balance all still puts this squarely on the all-time list, no questions asked. Add to that a memorable soundtrack and you have a gothic masterpiece that will serve as a benchmark for many future 2D action titles.

Castlevania proved to be a highly exceptional title that was given GOTY by some magazines and even then they still rode the "tsk tsk shoulda been 3D" dick when talking about it.

It's a coin toss how Mania would be taken. SotN caught people off guard with unusual quality of game design and atmosphere. Mania would be formulaic in comparison and only 3 years after 3&K. The visuals wouldn't feel like as much of a leap as SotN was. Which was, again, picked on for its visuals despite being declared GOTY.
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>>387104431
Anon I've played the classic Sonic games so many times over the years that the reused stages were never going to feel new from a graphical/aesthetic standpoint. It's been at least five years since I played Sonic 2 yet I can't remember every stage perfectly, from the graphics to the music to the majority of the layouts.
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>>387104415
Exactly

All games are absolutely amazing here. No hate from me for any of them and I would gladly play any of them.
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>>387104234
My memory is fine. Klonoa wasn't seen as a big budget system seller title. It was a kid's game. We didn't have indies yet but the Killer App concept wasn't dead yet either. And Sonic was a killer app title. Being 2D when the other big boys of the industry had transitioned would have been picked the fuck apart.
>>387104546
^ Reference.
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>>387104546
Saying "some faggots may not like the graphics" isn't exactly picking on or criticizing them. The review you posted was just noting the trend amongst the public to favor 3D games.
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>>387104713
Your reference sucks, anon. The game wasn't being picked apart nor were the graphics criticized.
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New thread where
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>>387104431
So somehow remembering the graphics will make it feel not new then, despite the fucking changed layouts and mechanics?

With that logic, I can just show you this picture of Chemical Plant and your "fresh" experience is now ruined
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>>387084667
it looks kind of jank
look at the way Sonic moves

I don't expect dead-on physics to the classic games, but I expect it to be less... junky. It's oddly weighty in parts and oddly floaty in others, and Sonic doesn't look like he really maintains much momentum when not accelerating.
these are all problems Generations had
also, coming off of Generations, which has quite nice graphics, Forces doesn't look terribly impressive visually, even if there's more technically impressive things like the grass (which still looks weird as hell, like it's glowing)

I'll get Forces, but my biggest issue is that it doesn't really look like it's gonna be better than Generations.

>>387104074
I'm pretty sure SOTN just got lucky for being pretty bold in other ways.
Megaman X4 got bitched at a fair bit in the press for its sprite graphics despite being a great entry in the MMX series.

>>387104448
it's just you
also, a fair few early-2000s phones had a FM soundchip for MIDI playback with some lo-fi sampler chip for drums, maybe that's why it sounds like that to you?

like, the instrument quality is loads better in Chaotix, and the compositions are rollicking and fun
their biggest issue is that a few of them have like no real volume dynamics to them and are just going full steam ahead like all the time (Speed Slider's theme is pretty bad about this, and the melody isn't that great)
but Chaotix has some amazing tracks, like Marina Madness's theme, the stage select theme, Botanic Base, I could keep going
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>>387104726
It's reflective of the tone held at the time. 2D games weren't respected in '97. Playground talk was shit akin to "Man Castlevania is sweet even though its 2D." Yeah we all liked Klonoa and Tomba! and other shit but the "real" games were Tomb Raider, Final Fantasy 7, Resident Evil, etc.

2D games were the side bitches of the industry. Proto indies.
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>>387104431
>>387104937
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