The plot is a fucking Forces tie in. Holy shit, the gameplay

LITERALLY looking for reasons to bitch.

>>387044236
I guess 3&k is shit as well since it ties with adventure

>>387045098
but both of those are good

sonic forces is guaranteed ass

>>387045098
It also ties in with Adventure 2.


S3&K set up plot points that would set up various games.

>>387044236
>caring about story
Fuck off casual

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>this great game ties in to a game I don't care about therefore this game is shit

>>387044834
Honestly, the gameplay, level design, visuals and music are all 10/10. The only things holding Mania back are the rehash stages and that dumbass plot that associates it with what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.

>>387045343
>what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.

You are way, WAY overblowing that.

The game has me disinterested because it takes Sonic Generations and doesn't do a lot differently. That means inherently the game is alright, it's just phoned-in as fuck. It's probably going to be a competent game but they refuse to push the design envelope.

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>>387044834
this

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>>387044236
Go to bed Arin Hanson

>>387045424
Pretty much although I think the Modern Sonic stages might have some unique stuff attached to it but Classic Sonic has no reason to be in this game especially when Mania will blow it out the water

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>Caring about the story in a 2D Sonic game

Guys, will sonic forces suck?

>>387044236
that's unfortunate, but I was going to completely ignore the story anyway. So it's not a big deal

>>387045771
I think it's highly dependent.

If you're like me and think boost Sonic is dull, classic Sonic doesn't play right, and Wisps are completely out of place in anything outside of Sonic Colors (and anything contextually relating to it) then there isn't a whole lot going for Sonic Forces. The story seems interesting and the custom hero could be a decent shake up but to me that means we're headed into Sonic Unleashed territory (where the game is decent and fun but not as a Sonic game).

But if you appreciate Sonic Generations and don't have any issues with the Wisps, then this game is a decent evolution over Generations and could be compelling.

>>387045750
Story is what makes Sonic 360 unsalvageable for me.

Even if the game actually worked, I'd be pissed off at having to follow the context of this completely inane and confusing series of events.

>>387045771
Undoubtably so, and it won't have the excuse that "it was supposed to be in development for much longer" like 06 or the "It's an AU game that wasn't made by Sonic Team anyway" excuse from Boom

>>387045997
Get your head out of your ass, I haven't seen anything that actually looks BAD, just stale.

>>387044236
why does it matter?

>>387046085
That's why fpbp.

What if sega gets the mario odyssey team to make a new 3d sonic game?

>>387046157
You'd get another Sonic Lost World.

>>387046157
You'd get sonic colors 2.

>>387044236
>caring about story in Sonic games
What's next, caring about story in Kingdom Hearts, Mario and Dark Souls?

>>387045343
>with what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.
I don't much like the look of Forces but no, not by a long shot.

>>387046058
>Get your head out of your ass, I haven't seen anything that actually looks BAD, just stale.
Laughing my ass off
>The character creator, which fans have been saying for years would only be implemented once the series was dead beyond revival
>The same rehashed stages AGAIN
>Classic Sonic physics still trash
>Modern Sonic still a linear hallway mix of 2D/3D
>Plot and villain is meant to pander to the "ironic edgy" crowd because Aaron the "based" PR guy thinks the only way to save the franchise is through memes
>Music so far is all dogshit
What's there to like, honestly?

>>387045343
>what might just be the worst Sonic game yet
Nigga I PLAYED Shadow the Hedgehog

Sonic 2 is fucking shit, this gay ass Tails is just here to advertise the Tails Skypatrol on Gamegear. Fucking shills. Sonic is dead

Honestly, if Forces is just more Generations, I'll be happy.

>>387045771

I can't suck, but it wont be amazing. Basically a more original sonic generations, which is okay with me. They already tried "something new" with lost world and failed, I'd rather have them go back to what works.

>>387046738
>Nigga I PLAYED Shadow the Hedgehog
Yeah same. Honestly probably in my top 5 sonic games.

>>387046780
>Being happy about the soon-to-be worst game in the entire franchise
You're the cancer that's killing this series

>>387045098
>>387045227
I've missed having a degree of continuity in this series.

>>387046724
All of that adds up to just being "okay".

I have a lot of problems with Forces but it's mostly results in the game being in a rut than it does completely unplayable schlock.

>>387046842
Contrarian shit, ignored.

>>387045157
Mr future man, tell me more.

>>387046724
>Plot and villain is meant to pander to the "ironic edgy" crowd because Aaron the "based" PR guy thinks the only way to save the franchise is through memes
Aaron doesn't write the games, everything we've seen of Infinite and the premise of the game has been played completely straight.

So, Cybershell. Who is he and why does everyone hate him?

>>387044236
When do the reviews release anyways? I'm hoping this game gets a crazy high metacritic.

>>387046969
Generations was NOT that good buddy.
Not even that anon, but the bosses were pretty shit, the levels were unmemorable (aside from being from previous sonic games), the extra challenges were a mixed bag but ultimately just felt tacked on.
It was like a 4/10 game. It's only saving grace was that it came around the same time as unleashed.

>>387047481
He was probably reffering to the idea that Forces will be the worst game in the whole Sonic franchise.

>>387044236
shut the fuck up

You don't play Sonic for the fucking story,you play it to test your platforming skills and to satiate the GOTTA GO FAST hunger

judging by the ending of Mania,it's also safe to presume that just like Generations,Classic Sonic is going to return to his world at the end of Forces

I don't know why the fuck you're being such a little bitch OP

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>>387047215
>everything we've seen of Infinite and the premise of the game has been played completely straight
Your irony detector must be broken. The Sonic PR is only on one level of irony, which makes it that much easier to tell when they're trying to appeal to the "lol memes" pseudo-normalfag (reddit/YouTube/tumblr) crowd

>>387047481
>it came around the same time as unleashed

It launched three years later, what the fuck are you talking about?

>>387047591
What about what we've seen makes it ironic compared to previous Sonic games? How is Infinite portrayed different to Mephiles or even Shadow in SA2?

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I'd only be angry if it had Infinite and some text that said "to be continued" after the credits. I wish that they had just went with the original plot of Eggman being depressed after 3&K. It really should have just been a prequel.

>>387047865
But it is a prequel! to Sonic Forces!

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>>387047865
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

>>387045424

I was intrigued by Forces, even though I didn't think classic Sonic belonged. I was more intrigued when they revealed the OC creator. That's a fun, fresh thing to bring to Sonic. But then I saw all the stuff with Infinite and the cutscenes and how the game looks like the cheesiest anime weaboo shit.

Then my interest plummeted.

>>387047865
If they went with the original plot Eggman probably will take a backseat in favor of the heavies. At least now Eggman still the main villain.

>>387047865
It left it just vague enough that it doesn't objectively hurt the game beyond the dumb as shit new gem and the questionable lack of involvement of the Time Stones, but knowing it's tied into that edgy piece of last decade's crap does hamper my enjoyment.

>>387047759
>How is Infinite portrayed different to Mephiles or even Shadow in SA2? Because the whole "edgy" phase of the early-mid 2000s is over. It's like how Sonic Riders is over because the skater culture has died down. Imagine if they tried to make a game like Sonic Riders, except it plays completely different, and it tries too hard to rope in the skater culture (which is dead) rather than appeal to fans of the original Riders games.

>>387045750
>I never played S3&K: the post

>>387048389
And as we all know Sonic Team aren't out of touch at all.

>>387044236
>the plot is now important in a Sanic game

I think you kill yourself

>>387044236
Well they fucked up. Could've had a 10/10 but nope, rather have a 9/10

Why is a Forces tie in bad? Its smart for Sega to finally have marketing for their games?

Or has forces (A gens/colors/day stage) style game bad now for some reason? Sonic finally found it's Bing Bing Wahoo engine equivalent so that it can improve on it over time like Mario did with 64, so why is the 2D game being tied to it bad?

Or do people hate Colors/Gens now?

>>387044236
>sonic games have a plot
huh, never knew this

>>387048784
Generations/Forces/Colors are the NSMB of Sonic, except they changed the gameplay into something worse than the original.

>>387047759
>>387048389
>>387048512
You know good and well Infinite isn't not self-aware.

If you can't see that you are blind. He is purposefully made to be 20% cooler than you, he is the ulitmate "OC Donut Steel" Bad guy. Its self aware as fuck.

Which is why its fine. Its just like how Sonic Boom references the "TOO KEWL FOR SKEWEL" stuff aka bringing back skater culture.

>>387049235
>You know good and well Infinite isn't not self-aware
>He is purposefully made to be 20% cooler than you

Well then which is it? It doesn't make sense to contradict yourself in the same post.

>>387046817
Horrible taste you have

>>387049235
>He is purposefully made to be 20% cooler than you, he is the ulitmate "OC Donut Steel" Bad guy.
You mean just like Shadow was?
>This guy acts and talks the same way previous villains have, but it's self aware this time because some western comedy cartoon made by completely different people makes jokes.

>>387049235
>Its self aware as fuck.
>Which is why its fine.
That's not how it works, you making little shit.

>>387044236
you're a gullible chump if you expected any different

I swear, if Shadow the Hedgehog was released today people would praise it as an ironic self-aware masterpiece.

>>387048784
Colors and Generations were as awful as the rest of the recent games, and underaged posters too young to know any better or appreciate games despite hardware limitations kept trying to force them like a bad meme.

Make no mistake, Sonic Mania is pandering to the old crowd with the rehashed zones as hard as Sonic Forces is pandering to the underage crowd with the Generations setup, an OC creator, and a storyline very much like the crap we've been getting and '06.

>>387048784
Colors and Generations have a good level design and some project direction at least.

>>387044236
Who cares? it doesn't change the art or the music or the controls or the level design does it?

>>387044236
>There's a plot
This is the biggest disappointment. Doesn't matter that it's a Forces tie-in, the plot of 3 is as complicated as it should get.

>>387045098
You've got it backwards. Adventure builds off 3&K, 3&K didn't have any elements put into it because they knew they would be important to Adventure some day.

>>387049683
It IS a masterpiece though
>Best homing attack in the series
>Collectables in levels serve a n in-level purpose, unlike red rings
>A ton of levels, each with multiple objectives
>Fantastic soundtrack
>Plenty of branching paths and room for exploration
>Plot is pretty edgy, but appealed well to the targeted demographic of the time period
>Phenomenal multiplayer

>>387048336
>but knowing it's tied into that edgy piece of last decade's crap does hamper my enjoyment.
This is some Barneyfag-tier autism.

>>387050492
No, autism is not being sickened by Infinite, the OC creator, and the absolute laziness of Forces.

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>>387049021
People hate NSMB for rehashing itself 4 times with even similar music. Colors and Generations are distinct from each other and only share an engine, your comparison makes no sense.

Fuck, when Lost World came out you little shits kept bitching they should've done another Generations instead of "trying new things". Now that they're back to the Generations style, you claim Colors and Generations are bad? Fucking make up your minds already, god damned furry autists.

>>387050270
>Best homing attack in the series
I don't remember it being anything special but if you say so.
>Collectables in levels serve a n in-level purpose, unlike red rings
>A ton of levels, each with multiple objectives
The multiple objectives and all the collectibles aren't a good thing they're a fucking chore and blatant padding.
>Fantastic soundtrack
Outside of a few vocal themes it's very forgettable, Possibly the weakest soundtrack in all the 3D games.
>Plenty of branching paths and room for exploration
Those branching paths don't happen through natural exploration though, you have to repeat the levels and do those chores in order to get all the different endings which don't actually matter because the last story segment contradicts almost all of them.
>Plot is pretty edgy, but appealed well to the targeted demographic of the time period
I remember thinking it was retarded even as a teenager.
>Phenomenal multiplayer
The fuck are you talking about, it's a big step down from SA2 and Heroes, all the playable characters are 6 different colours of Shadow for fuck's sake.

>>387050589
So then the majority of people are autistic.

Good to know that doesn't make sense.

>>387050270
I really like Shadow the Hedgehog and don't get a lot of the hate.

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>>387051094
>Fuck, when Lost World came out you little shits kept bitching they should've done another Generations instead of "trying new things".
>Sonic fans are one person

>>387051262
>Sonic fans are one person
Don't try to pull that shit on me, you damn well know they're an autistic hivemind with several missing puzzle pieces.

>>387051105
>Outside of a few vocal themes it's very forgettable, Possibly the weakest soundtrack in all the 3D games.
>implying
https://youtu.be/EguvUh3TvGU
https://youtu.be/WiKaLm2G5dM
https://youtu.be/RglxkcgMXPQ
https://youtu.be/ETVMXs8EerQ
Do I need to continue? I'll be happy to if you want me to.

>>387046817
Now you're just being silly

>>387051464
>Sonic fanbase
>Hivemind
They're one of the most divided fanbases there is, where the fuck did you get the impression they're a hivemind?

>>387049448
Those don't contradict themselves. Please look up what contradict means.

>>387049525
Shadow wasn't tounge in cheek, shadow was 100% serious.

>This guy acts and talks the same way previous villains have, but it's self aware this time because the series is self aware as a part of it's new modern branding

FTFY

>>387049573
Self Aware sonic is best sonic. Its like TFS is better than KAI

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>>387051464

>Don't try to pull that shit on me, you damn well know they're an autistic hivemind with several missing puzzle pieces.

>>387051807
>Its like TFS is better than KAI
Not only is that blatantly not true to anyone that doesn't have a suite reddit/tumblr/YouTube sense of humor, but they're both trash

>>387051909
>reddit/tumblr/YouTube

You mean normal , well adjusted person?

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>>387051807
>Self Aware sonic is best sonic.
DUDE BALDY MCNOSEHAIR LMAO

>>387051807
>Shadow wasn't tounge in cheek, shadow was 100% serious.
The same can be said for Infinite, everything we've seen of him has been 100% serious
>it's self aware this time because the series is self aware as a part of it's new modern branding
The series when handled by western side of things is self aware, like Boom and the Sonic Twitter, Forces Story was written by the Japanese this time.

>>387052085
No. Shadow was made as the blue oni character same as Vegeta/Piccolo/Saske, whatever.

Infinite is very obviously a tounge and cheek, self aware character of that.

>>387051094
they don't share an engine

>>387051587
it's not awful, but it's not memorable in any way.

>>387052149
>Infinite is very obviously a tounge and cheek, self aware character of that.
You still have yet to give a reason for that from what we've seen of the character himself and not just
>Some western PR guy posts memes on twitter so everything Sonic related must be self aware.

>>387045098

What did 3&K do for adventure? I know about the shrine that Gerald uses as a design base for Shadow but that's for Adventure 2.

>>387051954
>You mean normal , well adjusted person?
No. I'm not sure quite how to label them, but they're not normalfags and they're not self-respecting autists like to ones that post here for legitimate discussion. They're somewhere in between. It's like that socially awkward kid in highschool that runs through the hallways, wears baggy ass clothing, constantly tries to correct people and gets insanely defensive when they're wrong. Probably sits with others like them at lunch and has trouble being sociable around anyone else. The kind of person that normalfags AND the nerdfags bag on constantly.

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>People actually care about the plot in a Sonic game

>>387052279
Name a more memorable riff in a sonic stage theme than fucking lava shelter.

>>387049021
>Generations/Forces/Colors are the NSMB of Sonic

Wouldn't that be Sonic 4?

>>387051190
You want hard evidence? Even though your juvenile claim has none?
I got you.

Take a look at the Facebook icons for people commenting on the opening video to Sonic Mania:
facebook com story.php?story_fbid=10155579467167418&id=23050342417&fs=5
Well-kempt, average, some fanart, pretty decent overall.

Okay, now let's look at the commenters for the Infinite teaser:
facebook com story.php?story_fbid=10155511250222418&id=23050342417&fs=5
Anime profile pictures, a fucking meme face, hipster hair and beard-do's, smattered in with a few normal-looking people.

Okay, now you tell me which is more normal and which is more autistic. There's only one answer.

>>387052584
Well, I can't remember it, so anything else.

The old sonic games barely even had a plot, who gives a shit

>>387052279
Very well
https://youtu.be/wRqZ0KXuNuk
https://youtu.be/QDsGxivYRnk
https://youtu.be/Iq1is_2VjRk

>>387044236
Is story actually relevant in Sonic games? I don't remember anyone ever really mentioning story with classic Sonic games. And when they do include a story (Sonic 06), it's utter shit.

>>387053272
>And when they do include a story (Sonic 06), it's utter shit.
>Riders
>Adventure
>Adventure 2
>3 & K
>Black Knight
>Secret Rings
>Shit story
Nigga

>>387047591
Sega of Japan is known for wiping their asses with whatever Sega of America says.

The current PR staff is from SoA and we know Izuka is leading Forces.

I want to believe they are being self aware but SoJ and Sonic Team have a track record on picking on the ring things from the fandom.

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>>387046817
Really?

>>387053201
if you think final haunt's music is good or memorable i think you're a deaf person pretending to have hearing

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>>387044236
> sonic
> story
what non autistic gives two shits about Sonic"s story? going to wine about blue arms next? Jesus Christ at least pretend not to be so pathetic and keep it to yourself

>>387053272
the story was fat guy turns animals into robots for lolz and emeralds.

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>>387044236
That's a lot of nice proof you have....

>>387056478
Look up the ending.

>>387044236
Plot? In a fucking sanic game? Who the fucking shit fuck cares you faggot gook-wannabe shitsucker.

>>387052693
They are children, not autists.

>All these people who clearly haven't played 3&K

>>387056559
Not him but I've seen the ending to Mania and it's just big planet exploding with Sonic'd face while he runs through and does the same pose as he did in Forces' first Trailer.

That's the only connection

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>this autist is playing Sonic Mania right now, after enjoying two dinners and a fap to traps

>>387052461
>ice cap
>red mountain
>angel island/mystic ruins

>>387056795
>Living the dream

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>>387044236
I kind of like that. I'm looking forward to both games and I like continuity.

>>387053426
Unleashed has a good story too.

Are 8bitdo controllers any good?

The saturn USB controllers are a bit too expensive these days and none of those USB sega controllers look any good.

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DSP is streaming Mania on midnight release.

>>387058261
He probably won't be as bad as Mark.

>>387044236
I don't see the problem with this.

>>387058261
Was DSP always a Classic Sonic fan?

>>387046157
I'd rather have Retro try.

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PIZZA IS FOR ME AND YOOOOU

I've never played a Sonic game before. Thinking of getting this on Switch because of the low price point.

>>387058615
KRUSTY KRAB PIZZA

>>387044236
>caring for the story of a fucking sonic game
>the fucking story
of out of the games that you could choose to bitch about story, and you choose the one with the franchise with the most inconsistent one.
seriously, kill yourself

>>387047252
He's the Verlisfy of the Sonic community

>>387054108
Yes really

>>387055065
I mean, it's not quite Secret Rings level OST, but it's still great

>>38705861
eeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEE

Playable Amy confirmed yet?

>>387058996
Ooooooh, he's one of "those" types of people?

Reminder that Mania Sonic is unironically from a dimension where the 3D games never happened.

>>387060107
These days I refuse to believe Modern Sonic is just a grown-up Classic. The two are different characters to me and Sega definitely seems to be trying to separate them themselves at this point.

mega link where

>>387056597
Age doesn't excuse poor taste.

>>387060107
>The 3D games don't happen in the future
>They happen in another dimension

Wow what a relief. I'm so glad they're connected in one way and not the other.

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>>387045157
Why is it? What have you seen so far that looks bad?
>Inb4 edgy villain
SA1 had a supernatural cosmic horror and SA2 a literal terrorist.
>Muh OCs
A perfect way to implement a new character style without having Silver The Hedgehog, and a natural fit for the resistance theme

It's because /v/ and classicfags told you it's bad, right?

I wonder if protodude is still around. He could've given us the Mania demo or something

>>387061139
I think it does.

Why can't we just completely replace eggman with the hard boiled heavies?
They are way cooler.

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What do you guys prefer, Rush or Rush Adventure?

I felt Rush had better music and level design, but Rush Adventure had better bosses and more shit to do.

>>387045098
>>387050162
>>387052461
All this arguing over whether 3&K to Adventure is comparable to Mania to Forces.
3&K
>3
>&
>K
>Threeeee "I have fewer stages than the previous title and an underwhelming finale"
>And
>Knuckles "Pay full price for two games to get the complete story intended for one"

>>387063070
stay tuned for sonic mania 2 where you plays as a tails and kuckles combo trying to rescue sonic

>>387063070
>Metal koopalings
>Better than Eggman

>>387060107
So what does that make Generations?

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>>387048389
>It's like how Sonic Riders is over because the skater culture has died down. Imagine if they tried to make a game like Sonic Riders, except it plays completely different, and it tries too hard to rope in the skater culture (which is dead) rather than appeal to fans of the original Riders games.

>>387044236
I MUST BE DISAPPOINTED ABOUT SOMETHING

Anyone else think the leader of the Hard Boiled Heavies looks kinda like SatAM Robotnik?

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>>387063289
The koopalings don't even come close to these guys however.

>>387063559
This isn't "Skater culture" at all.

>>387060039
Never.

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draw snaic

>>387056793
Sounds like I literally wouldn't have known it was a tie in if people here weren't constantly making threads about it. thanks /v/

>>387063759
Have you played the game? It's Jet Set Radio with ink instead of graffiti.

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super amy a hot

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>>387063876
Stop that.

>>387047668
I don't think He even knows what he's talking about.

>>387063876
>Knuckles prays the great emerald power for days and years
>he doesn't have Super form since the Classic

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>>387063876
imagine how tight she can squeeze her vagina

>>387063070
The hard boiled heavies are a great addition, especially since I always liked egg robos, but nothing replaces Eggman as the best.

>>387063759
>Ska punk soundtrack
>Chocked full of "attitude"
>Grind rails is a gameplay mechanic in single player
>Hub world is just teenagers loitering around
>That clothing

If it isn't skater, then I don't know what it is

>>387045098
Adventure is a separate universe
Fuck Sega

>>387063070
He's right >>387064236
Hard Boiled Heavies are cool but they aren't better than Eggman. They are like Mega Man villains level.

Just woke up at 3 pm. Were there any new unlocks from the medals?

UNFINISHED BUILD I BELIEVE. THERE WILL BE MORE!

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>>387063257
>Mania 2
>includes Genesis-style remakes of Secret Base Zone, Chaos Angel Zone, Pirates Island Zone

>>387064583
Just check his twitter, also yes

>>387047252
Nobody hates Cybershell except newfags

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>>387064604
what's his endgoal?

https://streamable.com/1fwzm

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>>387064063

>>387051807
>Self awareness is le funny xD
Millennials should be hanged

>>387064897
the destruction of all that is good

>>387051954
>normal
you need to go back

>go to best buy
>ask for Sonic Mania CE for Switch
>guy goes into the back and grabs it for me
>about to check out
>another employee says "you can't sell that it doesn't come out until Tuesday"
>cancel transaction
Tell me /v/, how is it that ultimate autismos from cripplechan can get the game no problem but I get cockblocked when I try?

LADS im hype and as a fan who played the classics to completion almost every day (quick no emerald runs) and full runs on the weekends what is the best way to experience the classic games? I own a ps4,pc,WiiU. Why didn't they repack the classics? I would have bought mania and the classics for 30 easy.

>>387065623

You got unlucky.

>>387065634
Ironically, the best to play Sonic 1 and 2 is on Ouya

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Since when did Sonic games have a cohesive plot to follow? I played 1-3 as a kid and it was just run right and beat Robotnik.

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>>387065457
>I am the roughest of waves
>I am the toughest of terrors
>I am the darkest of days
>I am the last one that's standing, Don't try to stand in my way, Cause I've been up against better, Just take a look at my face
Is infinite izuka's OC?

>>387044236
Cool. Cant wait to play.

>>387065905
Or the Fire TV or any Android TV.

>>387065984
True

Do you think it's possible the Heavies will get any kind of figures or resin kits?

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whats with all the hate for izuka in these threads

ive never understood it

>>387066116
DON'T

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>>387064604

>>387066194
GOOO

>>387065905
I heard the android ports were sick but sadly I don't have an android device and I would rather have all of the options in one area. It seems emulation is my best bet but I was hoping for a re-release on a console or something for that definitive experience. I seen sonic 3 complete though and that looks legit.

>>387066314
TOOOOO

I've gotten all the super emeralds, but never bothered with perfects. I want those extras. How fucked am I?

>>387066290
>Sonic(blue) as the Switch(red)
>Tails(Red) as PS4(Blue)

The colors trigger my autism

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>>387066418
FAAAAAAAAAAAR

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>>387066418
FRAAAR MANIA TEAAM

Just beat 3.

That was the second worst final boss of any game I have ever played.

I thought there would maybe be a 3rd final form or something. Fucking embarrassing. Holy shit.

>You've got your supply of rings AND an invincible attack

5/10 game.

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>Trophy list is up
>No platinum
I know I'm cancer for caring about this, but FUCK.

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>>387066562
||!!!

>>387066609
The fuck are you on about? Invicible attack? What?

>>387066647
Isn't one of the achievements getting a "perfect run"? Surely all of these are worth platinum

>>387055065
That shit is good you're just a soft easy listening baby who still has mickey mouse ears

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Blue
Sphere
Till
Mania
(PC)
smashcast dot tv slash BlueSphereAnon

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>>387066461
play bluesphere until you get the game. Become the blue balls, understand the toroidal shape hidden underneath

>>387066609
The music easily enhances the fight.

>>387066779
The insta shield or W spin attack. It has a frame of invincibility and extends Sonic's offensive hitbox. It cheeses most bosses in 3.

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>sonic
>plot

Fuck yeah. I figured out how to get level select to work in Sonic 2 on Fire TV which doesn't have touch support:
Just do the Knuckles in Sonic 2 level select code (UUUDDDLRLR) at the title screen and press A+Start.
Taxman really thought of everything.

>>387066609
Are you talking about Launch Base or Doomsday? Because if you're talking about Launch Base, you've still got a lot of game left.

>>387066534
>Tails
>Red

>>387048389
Skater culture was completely dead by the time Riders was out

>>387067123
The Tornado is red.

>>387066949
Ok sure, but you have to time it perfectly. Not many people are going to on their first playthrough. Dunno how you could actually hate the boss fight that much, it was great. Though I do think the extension (Sonic3&Knuckles) has way better bosses.

>>387063872
It's nothing like Jet Set Radio
Just because it's colorful doesn't make it like JSR you shallow fuck

>Caring about plot in a Sonic game

Seriously? In the minimalistic 2D ones at that.

>>387067230
You only have to time it for the invincibility. Which I am aware the other anon brought up. To use it offensively is far easier as it keeps you at a greater distance from the enemy by its nature and lasts much longer than the i-frame.

>>387067280
I don't know about you, but in 1994 when I played Sonic 3, I was absolutely enamored by the storytelling, and S&K really drove it home for me. I'd love to be able to relive those experiences with Mania.

>>387063872
haven't played the game, but it certainly doesn't look anything like jet set radio

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>>387067280
Damn right I care about 2D plot

>Tails swimming animation

Omg so cute!

This little nigger Prower needs to be able to drop out of his flight

>>387067107
The arms one. But the game ended.

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>>387066534
Here you feg

>>387067250
The art direction, the music, and the characters are all distinctly reminiscent of Jet Set Radio.

Honestly, the Forces tie in plot just made me more interested in what will happen later.

Any of you guys know that Classic Sonic analysis series by some Scot(?)
Can't find it again for the life of me.

>>387048085
>But then I saw all the stuff with Infinite and the cutscenes and how the game looks like the cheesiest anime weaboo shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq0QUCKrSDg

>>387044236
why is the sonic fanbase so autistic?

>>387066815
The fuck is a perfect run, don't fucking tell me you have to beat the entire game without getting hit like the megaman ones.
If it is it makes sense it has no platinum since nobody will get that shit.

>>387045343
>with what might just be the worst Sonic game yet.
Yep you're just looking for reasons to bitch.

>>387068310
>playing Sonic 3 standalone
You did this to yourself, the full game is Sonic 3 and Knuckles.
Do yourself a favor and download Sonic 3 Complete which is a romhack of Sonic 3 and Knuckles with all the bugs fixed and weird design decisions that don't make sense changed.

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>>387068528
Lol yeah I'd never play Sonic because everyone knows the Sonic fanbase is just so fucking autistic, I can't take the AUTISM. Lol deviantart and furries and OCs am I right keep getting excited for your romhack you hopeless Sonic autists praise Arin "Grump" Hanson for exposing this series like he does

>>387068514
Never mind, found it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AK3n-srj5E

>>387068540
Your guess is as good as mine, but yeah if that is the case that's mental.

>>387045157
How is it guaranteed ass? Don't tell me, you've played the entire thing already?!? AMAZING! I had no idea that the full game was available already!

>>387047591
>Psuedo-normalfag

Dear god.. I hate them

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WHERE IS THE FUCKING REST OF THEM GODDAMMIT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxZwCI9CuGU&t=38s

>>387069262
>how can you tell it's shit it isn't out yet

It's written by the same guy who made Sonic 06. That's all I really need to know.

Oh, it's probably going to have good ideas put in it. All of the "bad" sonic games have at least one or two good changes that should be mentioned. Sonic 06 has at least one in that they put in a autosave feature. Sure, it doesn't kick in untill after Wave Ocean, it gets you stuck at Silver, and doesn't autosave town missions, but that autosave means you NEVER HAVE TO REPLAY THE FUCKING STAGES AGAIN after you beat them.

>>387066609
Can someone ban this fucker?

>>387056795
I'm telling you, ugly and unhygienic people are the worst people on earth. If they don't care about themselves they can't care about others

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>>387044236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHl68YSVpxE

has he unlocked sound test yet

>>387068390
None of it is like JSR holy shit kill yourself

>>387069734
It's written by the one guy who made Sonic 06?

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>Available: August 29
>This game will unlock in approximately 2 weeks

Why don't Mario fans argue about 2d vs 3d games like this?

>>387068371

Not that anon but das nice, man. Das nice.

>>387069758
God Steven is such a faggot.

>>387069906

>Spent $40 on Collector's Edition
>Won't be able to redeem it for two weeks after I get it

>>387070028
Because both 2D and 3D mario are good

>>387070028
Because everyone agrees that the 3D games better than the 2D ones.

>>387070156

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Peeper Hog.

>>387069734
So the writing guarantees that the gameplay will be bad?

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I like the edginess of Sonic forces. It feels super damn Cathartic.

>Caring about the plot in a sonic game
>Complaining that the cut scenes are cheesy anime weaboo shit with furry characters

It has been like this for 20 years now, it doesn't matter

All that matters is:
Is it fun to run around and go fast and jump on shit?
And is the music good?

If the former answer is yes: Its good
If the latter answer is yes: Its always yes

>>387069893
What, Infinite didn't immedeatly give it away?

Despite all the memes, it's entirly likely Infinite won't be self-aware and will be played "seriously". Which is sort of sad, some guys on /co/ had a nice idea that Infinite was the oc eggman created with the game's oc maker, and I honestly would prefer that to be the plot than a SERIOUS STORY(tm). It'd at least give us a suprise about who the final boss is going to be

>>387069689
No one outside of you and that tripfag believes in or cares about your autistic and fanfic-tier "pint-sized Sonic" theory.

>>387070361
The writing will have an effect on gameplay, yes. Do you remember all the times you got an annoying ass hint you never asked for in Sonic 06?

And let's not talk about the "romance" that got shoved into Sonic's story and how SONIC FUCKING DIED and you had to play the most bullshit final level ever because of it

>>387070028
Because 3D Mario already has factions that argue.

>>387070769
So Hints automatically change the core gameplay?

>>387069689
This was so mindbogglingly retarded and autistic it makes me wanna find the person who made this and keep brutally punching his face till there's nothing but gore and blood.

>>387069858
Yes it is, kill yourself hypocrite fanboy

I honestly have no idea why /v/ is so monumentally butthurt about Forces. It looks fine.

>>387070769

Most of the time games with multiple playable characters tend to have you play as all of them during the final act. SA2 and Heroes did this too.

>>387069689
sonic the portable isn't canon and mania takes place after 3&K

>>387069734
>It's written by the same guy who made Sonic 06.
I thought it was written by one of the guys who wrote Colors-Lost World?
Not that that makes it better, mind you.

>>387044236
weren't the classic sonic games supposed to be independent adventures that happened one after the other?
why did they tied it to forces? FUCKING WHY?

>>387071383
Colors was written well

>>387071383
He's just doing the English script, the story itself was written by someone on the Japanese side of things.

>>387071463
Most people complained about the Saturday Morning Cartoon feel, but I didn't mind it.
The Eggman PAs were the best though.
https://youtu.be/VvS7ewAkwEA

>>387071524
Okay then.

>>387071463
Colors is fucking shit. You're a idiot, fucking kys

>>387071463
BALDY MCFUCKHAIR

>>387070890
Hints can contribute to the core gameplay being a terrible experience.

Dying to a particularly bullshit part, such as the end level of Sonic 06, and having to hear that "hint" OVER AND OVER, even though it doesn't really help you because the time portals fucking snipe your ass and are out to murder you, is the sort of game design I'd love Sonic Forces to avoid.

>>387071606
Why do you retards think this constitutes an argument? Watch me do it: Colors wasn't shit, fucking kys.

Next you'll post that regurgitated "Sonic Colors saved the series" screenshot.

Where can I find those Sonic models that people use for SFM?

>>387070890
>>387071708
>THAT LOOKS LIKE A HOMING SHOT
>BE CAREFUL SONIC

>>387058996
>Verlisfy
Who?

>>387071603
I've seen many Saturday Morning cartoons with better writing though. Those PAs probably are the best parts, shame you'll have next to no chance of hearing more than brief snippets of them as you play through the game.

www dot smashcast dot tv/urlogic

streaming sonic 3d blast pc to make wait till mania less painful

>>387063075
It's been years since I played them, but I remember liking Rush Adventure more. I played them back to back and while Adventure added gimmicks I remember feeling it had better levels overall.

>>387071732
Colors was so fucking bad. The fact that people think it "saved" the series shows how mindbogglingly retarded the fanbase is. The series really went to utter shit starting 2010. The games from then on are shallow, boring, uninspired pieces of shits.

>>387068839
3&K replaces some of 3's music with inferior pieces, though. Also no Big Arms for Sonic.

>>387046817
I liked Shadow too, but only because it's the only game starring Shadow.

>>387072147
>The series really went to utter shit starting 2010
The fact you think this shows you're retarded. The only thing post-3D worth mentioning is Colors and Generations (wholly average games with high points) and maybe tidbits of Unleashed, maybe. Fuck me you probably think the Adventure games are good.

>>387069906

>Asks Steam for a refund because I can just watch a longplay

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>>387072147
>2010
>2005

>>387072238
3&K Complete can change that.

>>387072147
People liked Colors because it was the Unleashed gameplay without the werehog shit.

>>387072147
I feel it was due to the timing. Unleashed had almost got it down, but was held back by the werehog. The fact that Sonic 4 episode 1 (supposedly for the classic fans) came out around that time didn't help. Colors taking after Unleashed's daytime stages (even if mostly in 2D) was a sign that, hopefully, Sonic Team finally knew what they were doing.

>>387072238
Did you read the second half of his post? It's kind of important.

>>387072285
Adventure games are very flawed but still better than Unleashed and Colors.

>>387045292
>Playing the competitive in Sonic
Fuck off casual

>>387072407
Complete puts Big Arms back in?

>>387072514
According to Sonic Retro, yes.

>>387072514
Yes

>>387072447
Hardly. At least the latter two are functional fucking games, SA1 is a buggy unfinished mess where you're liable to have your momentum completely killed by invisible obstacles in the terrain or fall through the floor. SA2 is much better and more acceptable but it's still only 33% of a good game because the rest of it consists of the mech and treasure missions. They're shit games with value in nostalgia and nothing else.

>playing sonic games for the story

>>387072285
The Adventure games aren't good, they're fucking great.
>>387072367
Except you can't even say that because Colors is a insanely watered down piece of shit that's like 80% 2D. Not even exaggerating, that's literally the game right there. Also wisps, an uninteresting, shitty gimmick.

How about no more video games ever get made at all since you people represent the most fundamental problem the entire industry faces.

>>387071045
My beef isn't with different characters being playable in the final, but simply the final of Sonic 06 not being fun at all and hoping Sonic Forces DOESN'T follow in it's footsteps (it probably will)

SA2's finale was pretty good, the only bullshit part MIGHT be if you didn't find the water breathing upgrade for Knuckles... but you could always just go to stage select and find it. They flow from one to another without too much bullshit.

Heroes was bullshit getting all four teams to that end level, but the end level itself was okay. Fucking Chaotix levels always left me going in circles.

Sonic 06's end level was not fun. All the characters go slow, and the levels involve Time portals designed to fuck over anyone NOT fast enough to get away, like Amy and Silver. Also projectiles are thrown at you from places you can't see. And the instant death portals can spawn RIGHT ON TOP OF YOU. And you can't bring in YOUR FUCKING LIVES so if you die in a section that has a character you don't really play well with, you have to go through ALL OF THAT SHIT ALL OVER AGAIN, so Trial and error isn't fun and Just because I can S rank that shit now, doesn't make it any less bullshit

>>387070981
Fuck off nint0ddler

>>387072049
i fixed it

Anyone else cancel their preorder after finding out about this? I'm honestly disgusted.

>>387070178
LOL
Mario World >>>>>>>>>>>> any 3D Mario game

>>387072712

The instant death portals were a gameplay decision though. They have nothing to do with the writing.

>>387072654
You're a fucking retarded meme-spouting idiot. A literal sheep that has NO opinions of his own. The dreamcast version of SA1 isn't buggy nor is it unfinished, idiot. And the "le 1/3 of advanshur 2 is gewd!" meme. You're a mouth-breathing, braindead faggot. I think for the betterment of mankind, you should kindly off yourself.

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>>387072692
>The Adventure games aren't good, they're fucking great.

>>387072147
>The series really went to utter shit starting 1998.
Fixed that for you
Go fuck yourself Adventure/Unleashed cuck

>>387044236
>caring about plot in a classic sonic game

I have no idea what Sonic 1, 2 and 3 are about and I think theyre fucking great just like this game is gonna be.

>>387072238
Just play Sonic 3 complete and select "Pick by Zone" in the menu. That way you get all of the music.

>>387072946
>He just said things I don't like! I'm gonna call him a bunch of names now!
I formed these opinions on my own and I owned the Dreamcast version of SA1 when I was younger. It was less glitchy than DX but still fucking broken with invisible shit all over the place. Eat shit.

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>>387072692
>The Adventure games aren't good, they're fucking great.
>Adventurecucks believe this
Hahahahahahahhaha fucking gamecube kiddies I swear to god

>>387069689
Why does this actually make sense?

>>387044236
>caring about plot on a Sonic game
I bet you're one of those fags who think the Adventure games were good.

>>387072514
Complete puts back Big Arms, lets you choose between sonic 3 and the & knuckles versions of songs and level layouts and anything else that can be different between the two games.
It also let you do other things like set Flying Battery Zone to be after Carnival Night as was originally intended to be the case (complete with proper level transition and night background, and changing the snowboard in icecap to be the door you blast off in the level transition) before it got moved to sonic & knuckles so that game solo wouldn't be too short. You also get the option to use a different button to transform into super sonic so you can still use the insta shield without transforming and transform with a shield powerup and a whole bunch of other shit, it's the best way to play Sonic 3 at this point until Sega lets taxman make a widescreen port.
http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_3_Complete

>>387072654
Spotted the Gamecube owner. Should have played the Dreamcast versions and not the broken ports. Adventure Sonic stages are great, and everything else that wasn't fishing was solid. Adventure 2 Sonic/Shadow stages were also great, and the mech stuff was mediocre but beat the hell out of the majority of Colors and Unleashed. Treasure hunting was terrible though.
Unleashed werehog shit is awful, of course, but the daytime sidescrolling portions are even worse. They legit play worse than even Sonic 4. Maybe 1/3 of that game is worthwhile, which is far less than either Adventure. Colors has it just as bad. There's no werehog, but there's a bigger emphasis on the atrocious sidescrolling shit and the first acts of each level are the only ones even remotely enjoyable. Generations is the only 3D boost game to get it mostly right.

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>the release gap won't mean shit in a few months
>consolebros won't be able to play with a Mega Drive controller
>consolebros won't be able to enjoy mods and hacks
I'm sorry bros

>>387073205
It doesn't, it placed CD in the wrong place in the timeline and it regards Generations as canon, which it isn't. The Classic continuity never happens in Modern Sonic's past, 1,2,CD,3K, and Mania all exist in a separate dimension where the 3D games never happened.

>>387072654
>I don't like these stages so the game is bad
How arrogant can you be?

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>>387073247
>mods and hacks
>With Denuvo

I'll give you the Mega Drive/Saturn controller, though. Those things are top tier for retro gaming.

>>387073239
>Spotted the Gamecube owner
Like I told the other guy, I played SA on Dreamcast originally. And fuck no dude, the mech missions of SA2 where even worse than the treasure hunt missions but both were bad. Anything that's not a Sonic/Shadow level in SA2 is just a slog imo. Meanwhile I think you're underselling the things that Unleashed and Colors did right, "worse than Sonic 4" is severely dishonest.

>>387073174
Mega Drive owner here. The Adventure games are better than anything released after them except maybe Generations.

>>387072654
>They're shit games with nostalgia value and nothing else
Did you mean the Mario series?

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>>387072963
>>387073174
I wonder how it'd be like to be this detached from reality and be this much of a braindead, deluded, piece of shit mindless drone. Your stupidity just has no fucking bounds. You NEED to kill yourselves for the betterment of humanity.

>>387072884
The instant death portals beign Gameplay related is true enough. However, the writing allowed Instant-Death portals to be possible, and also took out the only two FUN (read: broken and go fast) characters to play - Blaze and Sonic - out of the story, so I HAVE to play as the shitty slow characters who will die to time portals and I HAVE to listen to everybody say SONIC I'M CUMMING every fucking time I lose all my lives. I also have to deal with SEVEN FUCKING LOAD TIMES

>>387073362
>it regards Generations as canon, which it isn't
And how do you know this?

>>387073375
Do you think this same logic can't be applied to you, retard?
>I like these stages so they're good!
>But I don't like Colors, it must be dogshit
What an egocentric point of view.

I don't get it.

How old do you have to be to only have nostalgia for the classic titles? Both the classic series and Adventure series were still in my childhood and I have nostalgia for both.

>>387073447
Mega Drive owner here, I disagree.

>>387067221
The tornado belongs to Sonic
checkmate

>>387073637
I have tons of nostalgia for Adventure but I acknowledge they're objectively horrible fucking games.

>>387073362
Autismobros timeline trades games as canon, your argument reeks of “it’s not cannon because it was bad”

>>387073752
I had a lot of fun with them though.

It is painfully obvious that CD happens before Sonic 4, almost right before.

So yeah, after 3

>>387073843
>Sonic 4
>Happens
?

>>387073591
It's been made clear by SEGA and Sonic Team that Generations isn't canon, Forces clearly retconned Generations by clarifying that Classic Sonic is from a different dimension, not Sonic's "past" like Generations asserted.
Adventure 1 showed a clip of Amy being kidnapped by Metal Sonic, but they're in their Modern incarnations and in Green Hill Zone, a cutscene that never happens in CD at all.
Mania also includes characters from Sonic the Fighters that don't exist at all in the Modern dimension which confirms anything Pre-SA1 occurs in the Mania dimension.
>>387073843
4 is also not canon as indicated by Mania.

>>387073752
You're objectively a deluded idiot. Kill yourself you fucking nigger, go to KFC and watch NBA you nigger

Oh no, someone reposted it... welp.

I stand by it though, I know I’m not alone. I just wish they published an official timeline.

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>>387073247
I'm going to be using an SNES controller I recently got which works with the Switch I am going to be playing Mania on, and there is nothing anyone can do about it.

>>387073759
Generaitions isn't at all a bad game, I quite enjoyed it. But Forces clearly retconned it as I explained here >>387073912

>>387073843
sonic the portable is not canon

>>387073447
They're not better than Advance 1

>>387073836
These days I remember the Adventure games more fondly for their enjoyably retarded story, the cheesy but fun soundtracks, some of the timeless moments like FAKER, and so on. The gameplay is just sort of a mess and it's all over the place in retrospect, save for a few places. Also Metal Harbor is unironically one of the best tracks in any Sonic game and I'll stick by that.

>>387074060
Sonic 4 is too Canon. What makes it not canon?

If you say Sonic 4 isn’t canon, you are saying CD and Generations aren’t canon.