Sonic Mania

Meanwhile I've been killing time going in the exact opposite direction? I've indulged in a lot of Sonic lately.

Even made further progress in Sonic 360 (not a lot, because it's a suffering of the mind to play, but some).

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>>387043196
>"Your transaction failed because you are trying to buy 'Sonic Mania' which requires ownership of 'SEGA Mega Drive and Genesis Classics'. Please correct the error and try again."
God fucking dammit Gaben

>>387043196
why? I've been playing all the classic games.

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>>387043196
Why would you not play a Sonic game before Mania? Don't you want to relive the magic before jumping into the new one? I marathoned Sonic 1-3K this week already and I'm ready to go.

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>People in Youtube comments saying that Titanic Monarch looks less like an actual Sega 2D Sonic game level and more like a fangame out of something like Sonic AtS or Freedom Planet

I can see where they're coming from.

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Only 2 (or 16) days left!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SfLs6kdYxU

>>387043196
Why? I'm doing a run of Sonic 3 Complete before I play Mania.

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Dron't forgettu to bruy Sonkku Mrania Partu 2: Forces this Horudray!

>>387043675
It does remind me of the final levels in BTS and ATS. But that doesn't make it bad. I think everyone is just too used to final Sonic levels being in space. It's nice that they actually broke the mold for once.

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>>387043196
>splitting the threads because you didn't like the OP image
pretty autistic desu. then again this is the sonic fanbase.

>cassicfags will only play mania
>modernfags will only play forces
>izuka wanted to link the games but most people won't play both

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>Downloaded the Sonic 1 mobile port
>Played a few zones, had a lot of fun
>Decided to buy it to get rid of ads and play it offline
>Game crashes on launch now
>Check the reviews
>Half are "don't buy it it breaks it"
GODFUCKINGDAMMIT

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Last thread was pretty good. Hopefully the pleasant mood keeps up.

>>387043615
>>387043639
>>387043717
I've already replayed the classic games a couple of times in preparation for this. I just want the next sonic game I play to be mania now

>>387043196
I've been playing the first 4 Sonic games for the past 3 days to build up for Mania.
I'm up to the second half of Sonic 3 & Knuckles.

>>387043639
This guy here. Exactly what I'm doing.

Play some Sonic dude. One-by-one, before you play Mania. It would be like the 90s never ended.

This. Even Advance and Rush have space as a final level. It's boring now.

>>387043820
Fat chance, the only people who won't play Forces are the ones who already think Sonic sucks now but like Mania as a 2D platformer with retro aesthetics made right.

Anyone who still considers themselves a fan to some degree is probably going to play Forces, come whatever may. I am and I'm not even expecting a lot (I'm mostly playing it to affirm that Sonic is forever fucked and that I can safely leave for good).

>>387043639
I've super cleared S3&K so many times now I almost know the game like the back of my hand.

>>387043196
Nigga its only a few days away, calm down.

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How bad do you think the Sonic the Hedgehog Live-Action/Animated Movie by Sony will be? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgeY9B1_S38&t

>>387043919
>>387043780

>>387043975
It's a Sony movie. Of course it's gonna be shit.

>>387043675
Never seen any of those games

But I thought the visual inspiration for titanic monarch was carnival night

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>>387043196
SUPER AMY WHEN?

>>387043975
Name one good live action/animated hybrid movie that isn't who framed roger rabbit.
I feel that this movie won't change the answer.

>>387044084
She is a hedgehog, so Izuka shouldn't complain.

>>387044084
Fucking never cunt

>>387043572
Is that really what happens?

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I don't know why I tried to look this up.

>>387044084
She's not a main character so no.

Better video of the final and final final fights:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_pUcf9ku-g

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>>387043196
Just read some good ol sonichu son!

>>387044217
Whats this from?

yeah played around with generations

fuck that spindash is annoying sometimes, charge up and he just rolls forward a little bit slowly.

Was this game rushed?

>>387044558
Maybe a little. I'm pretty sure it was originally going to be out in May.

>>387044136
Happened to me 2 days ago when purchasing the game. Thankfully they've fixed it by now.

>>387043675
I agree. It's the most fangamey looking level in the game.

>>387044558
Yes, half of the level transitions are missing and it's obvious that the game was supposed to have 5 original zones.

>>387044484
Classic Sonic in Generations is a poor interpretation of Sonic's gameplay from the Genesis games.

All of the momentum feels very "fixed" (like everything has a very finite value to it and not based on what was happening leading up to it). So hit an enemy and you'll always bounce up the same regardless of how high or low you came in.

Requesting Amy underwear shots.

There's a Casino/Carnival type zone right
There better be

>>387044721
Christian Whitehead should do a post-mortem after this game launches if Sega lets him.

>>387044558
A little bit because of what >>387044721 said. Although it's nowhere near Sonic Team levels of unfinished at least.

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>>387043682

>>387044882
Studiopolis is the casino/carnival city zone with elements of film making.

>>387043639
Just replayed all 3 classics + Knuckles run and CD, I'm ready for Mania.

>>387045051
ok neat

>>387044619
Mania was originally suppose to come out in March.

>>387045028
When has Sonic Team dumped a game half-assed since 2008?

>>387044724
And he doesn't seem to be any better in Forces, gonna be very jarring going from Mania to that game.

Do we agree Sonic Generations is overrated?

>>387045281
i liked it

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>>387044915
>yfw mania updates with monthly patches and new content

https://www.change.org/p/christian-whitehead-recreate-sonic-x-treme

>>387043846
>Twelve two act zones for 20 dollars with extra unlockable goodies on the side
Pretty good deal honestly

What exactly is all the cities in the backgrounds of levels? Who lives there?

Do talking animals and humans coexist?

Why is the main villain always straight white man?

>>387045416
That game was going to be 3D Blast levels of bad, let it lie.

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>>387045416
>petition

>>387045281
No, I still like it quite a lot. I'm not a fan of how many first and city-themed zones made it into the game, but I still enjoyed myself.

Someone message Mark and tell him to go through the character select options to see if the unlocked "& Knuckles" mode has any bearing on it.

>>387045475
I always thought Eggman was such a narcissist that he made all of that stuff just for himself.

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>>387043975
>sony
>live action CGI hybrid
jesus fucking christ

>>387045475
Do you know why a giant carnival city was on Angel Island? Because Eggman was bored.

>>387045475
Yes except for Little Planet
we don't know if it has any actual native inhabitants

>>387045475
Why Lava Reef Act 2 have a city as the background now?

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>>387045656
Deepest lore

>>387045614
Fml ive stupidly never realized eggman built it as a deathtrap, i just thought it was a carnival the echidnas abandoned

>>387045752
Because of Eggman's abuse of ZA WARUDO (Infinite's stone) he gutted the Hidden Palace and turned it into a refinery

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Sonic 3

+Great power ups
+Great boss designs
+Has "some" great detailed sprites
+mini bosses
+Fun level gimmicks/mechanics
+Nice level transitions and cutscenes
+Knuckles


-Has some ugly as fuck sprites
-All round ugliest classic mainline game
-Ugly pseudo 3D elements and early 3D models (look at that hideous title screen)
-Levels go on forever.
-Worst special level
-pointless bonus stage
-meh music besides the MJ stuff

Is Sonic the last Echidna?

>>387043975
>CG/Live Action hybrid
>CG done by the same team that did Sonic Unleashed's intro

At least the CG will be good...

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>>387045787
>>387045614

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>Lava Reef Act 2's music sounds like it's straight from some old anime OVA or old Japanese PC game
It's so sexy

>>387046078
Maybe robotnik is utterly alone and is looking for the chaos emeralds to bring his species back from certain extinction?

>>387043675
Maybe it's intentional, considering the roots of the team that are now working on Mania.

>People are still excited for this confirmed trash

>>387043975

It is going to be a rehash of Sonic X. Calling it now. Gonna pull a Smurf movie on us.

>>387045986
>Has some ugly as fuck sprites
I don't think they're that bad but this is a common complaint so I'll let it slide
>All round ugliest classic mainline game
The fuck? The zones and backgrounds are all great. Confirmed for never looking at Carnival Night or Chrome Gadget's background
>Ugly pseudo 3D elements and early 3D models (look at that hideous title screen)
The title screen is the only really ugly part, the 3D effects in the game are pretty cool and blend well. It doesn't even use it that much anyway.
>Levels go on forever.
Marble Garden and Sandopolis Act 2 are the only levels that do. Everything else is perfect length.
>Worst special level
Blue Spheres is the best out of the 3 classic Special Stages, it's the only one that requires pure skill instead of bullshit memorization like Sonic 2's.
>pointless bonus stage
Getting lives and power ups in pointless now?
>meh music besides the MJ stuff
Now this is bait.

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So do we know what Infinite is exactly? All we see throughout Mania is that weird crystal.

>>387046190
Robotnik did nothing wrong.
He was the secret hero all along.

>>387045986
good god

>>387046341
Don't know don't care.

1 Day
12 Hours
22 Minutes
46 Seconds

GOOD GOD HURRY UP

>>387046409
thank you for your input

>>387043821
Happened to me but i can still play time trial for some reason

>>387045165
Robosexual

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>Tfw classic sonic in Forces will be better than Mania

What the hell happened

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>>387046445
Are we still having our chili dog and Totinos party tomorrow?

>>387046445
Prepare for the second round of shitstorm when the people that avoid leaks knew about the 4 new stages.

>>387046445
I know, far out - I'm trying so many things to pass the time but it's murder

>>387046573
BIGGER

>>387046593
Meh.

I couldn't help myself in the end. The second I saw the Mean Bean Machine boss, my hype levels went through the roof. I wish I'd booked the day off work.

>>387046651
Bigger what?

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>>387044558
It seems like even with the delay it wasn't enough to finish the game properly as >>387044721 said. Also if you are going to believe SEGA's story the PC version fell apart 4 days before release as well.

>>387046573
Yup, right here on twatch.teevee

>>387046687
It's incredibly creative I'll give it that.
Hope it's not too hard cause I suck at Puyo and I wanna replay the game many times.

>>387046445
I thought the Bone/ PS4 releases were at midnight

>>387043196
torrent when?

>>387046341
We know he can fuck with spacetime, and the only forces in Sonic known to do that are the Time Stones, Solaris and the Time Eater.
>Time Stones exist on Little Planet and that seems to have a major significance in Mania
>Solaris was retroactively erased from existence though it's been tossed around a few times that the Time Eater was spawned in its destruction
>Time Eater was harnessed by Eggman and turned into a mech, but was vanquished in Generations
So either Infinite is an entirely new force or was somehow created by one of the three. Probably the former because Sonic Team can't into lore anymore

>>387046865
PS4 is getting it midnight EST on the 15th.

>>387046837
It looked like babby mode desu. At least compared the original.

>>387043675
If Taxman and Stealth get to make another game after this these faggot fraud artists need to fucking go.

Press Garden looks more like Samurai Shodown than Sonic

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>>387043749

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Review embargo is over in just under 24 hours.

>>387047043
>Implying Taxman or Stealth are the game's artists
Go cry at the Pagoda West, that's where the artists are from. But leave Tee Lopes alone he's a good boy.

>>387047043
>looking like Samsho is a bad thing.

>>387043846
Why is that piece of shit Metallic Madness in the game? I'd rather have had Scrap Brain or Star Light

>>387047043
Act 1 was meh but Act 2 looks amazing. I wish they cut the Act 1 and make the whole stage snow.

>>387043196
Has anyone better than that one fag that game overed on oil ocean leaked the game, I want to know that the medals and true final boss is

>>387047043
I'm not a visual artist so I'm not sure what the methodology would normally be.

Conceptually, I think the new levels are all neat, it's just the palette choices/ elements of the execution.

>>387046746
You wouldn't like where this conversation would take you, anon

>>387047148
Who's ready for "Sonic was never good"?

>>387047218
True final boss is on YT.

No one's done SHOVE THE PIECES UP YOUR ASS, yet.

>>387047181
Mania Metallic Madness is a mix of a bunch of gimmicks from a bunch of factory levels. It actually looks fantastic.

>>387045281
It's shit
It's only good for the fanservice

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>>387045475
Eggman is a kike

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>>387043975
Alright, I'm gonna be a bit hopeful here given that Sega will most likley be having even more oversight with this movie given the Emoji Movie. Also, I'm gonna throw out the idea that maybe, just maybe, what they mean by Live Action w/ CGI they don't mean what we think. Maybe it's only gonna be Live Action for the first part of the movie where it starts with some kid in the real world and that kid gets pulled into a Sonic game/ Sonic's world and the rest of the movie is CG. That of course won't save the writing but it won't be a visual travesty.

Anyone else like this song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawkz3dNCYI&t=46s

I hate Chaotix, but I like some of the tracks on there. Maybe with a different sound font.

>>387043196
>realize the game comes out Tuesday
>I'll be at work all day
I just wanna play. At least I don't have to wait 2 weeks.

>>387045986
>-Has some ugly as fuck sprites-All round ugliest classic mainline game-Ugly pseudo 3D elements and early 3D models (look at that hideous title screen)-Levels go on forever.-Worst special level-pointless bonus stage-meh music besides the MJ stuff
Opinion discared
Off yourself

>>387045656
Maybe it's inhabited by plants.

>>387047442
Botanic Base's music is some of the best in the game, but Knuckles Chaotix's music is one of the best things about it.

>>387047156
Read the post again you dumb nigger

>>387047181
>Why is that piece of shit Metallic Madness in the game?

The new metallic madness barely resembles the old one at all

I'm surprised they didn't rename it

Can someone post the sonic fan games guide picture please ?

My brother says the main thing he's hoping for is to have all campaign zones playable in 2P.

GHZ's in there; do you think the rest will be?

>>387047745
I can't see why every zone wouldn't be 2P Race compatible.

>>387047745
Maybe that's where all the bonus files after Special Stage and Blue Spheres are.

>>387045986
>worst special level
Blue Spheres is literally the best special stage in the entire classic series.

toot toot sonic warrior

What is the pre order bonus for the game?

>>387048032
It costs a little less. And you get Sonic the Hedgehog 1 for free :)

>>387047991
You're literally wrong. It's shit

>>387043975

They should just straight up do a full Sonic animated picture, but why Sony? Sonic Team or whatever studio does the CGI for the games if pretty fucking good, the Adventure 1 intro was Amazing for the time, but when the custscenes from Unleashed and Colors for example, look amazing.

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>>387047157
It's just jarring. It doesn't fit Sonic.

>>387047184
I'm referring to the one with the Snow and the Sakura leaves
It reminds me of pic related and this https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/snk/images/6/6b/Ss3rimururu2bg.gif/revision/latest?cb=20100721105541

>>387047236
I don't know about that. Shit like Sakura Synagogue sounds very un-sonicy and the Cherry Blossom leaves in Press Garden is the same shit. It's too japanese culture centric whereas Classic Sonic has always been very inspired by western culture. It reminds me of Aquarium Park from Colors and Chun-nan from Unleashed...it fits in those games but in Classic Sonic it just looks so off.

>>387048117
which special stage is better than it?

Predict the review scores for Mania.

I'm going with low 8s

>>387047991
Just because it's better than the others doesn't mean it's not shit.

>>387048184
I expect either 8's, 9's or 7's.

>>387048184

8.3 - Sonic was never good but this was okay

>>387048073
What version of sonic 1? Better not be that shitty backbone entertainment crap

>>387047647
Still it doesn't deserve to be in the game compared to other zones. Literally nobody ever talks about Metallic Madness when they talk about CD...I'd rather have had Quartz Quadrant.

>>387048117

Guess memorizing rings and bombs bullshit and a "sort of pinball thing" with awful controls are better for you, right?

>>387048184
7.8 - Too much nostalgia.

>>387048254
>>387048313
Don't forget the opening paragraph about Sonic's struggle to transition to 3D and Mario comparisons

>>387048207
Just because I said it was the best, doesn't necessarily mean I think it's good.

>>387048286
Just a rom you run in an official Sega emulator that looks like a kid's bedroom. You play the games on the TV.
Would've really liked the Taxman port of Sonic 1 but I guess we can't have everything.

>>387048184
I'm hoping it gets at least mid 90s, and I wouldn't be surprised if it did. I'd love to watch all those random people that hate Sonic for no real reason have to deal with the fact that a "new" Sonic game got actually great reviews.

but more importantly I hope it sells well enough to warrant a sequel, I'd imagine Mania didn't cost a ton to make.

>>387048184
Ars Technica did a nice article, although they aren't exactly IGN or Gamespoot.

>>387048207
>just because blue spheres is better than the others doesn't mean it's not the worst
what the hell

>>387048354
>"Alright, so as we all know, Sonic has had a very rocky past..."

>>387048395
I want more original games from Taxman and his boys. Mania needs to sell well or else my dreams die.

Forces new when

>>387048534
Sometime now till the release of the game.

>>387048354
>>387048501
>"Sonic's shaky history"
>bringing up Sonic 06
>bringing up the Sega v Nintendo consolewar
Any other ones?

>>387048501
>proceeds to show 06 and Unleashed Werehog sections

>>387048534
It will have Chemical Plant and City Escape but with a TWIST

>>387047442
>posting shitty youtube remixes
Just post the original

>>387048602
I still don't get why people shat on Unleashed so much. Sure the werehog sections were ptetty shit but did people forget about the shitty shooting and treasure hunting in Adventure 1 and 2?

>>387048579
>Most likley uses Lost World as a way to springboard into Mario and thus Mario Odyssey.

>>387047991
2nd best to Sonic 1's maze imo

>>387048723
I think Sonic Team has become creatively bankrupt.

>>387048723
I swear to god if they use Chemical Plant for the third time in a row

>>387048873
Chemical Plant is the Green Hill Zone of Sonic 2. They'll keep using it again and again now.

>>387048736
The Werehog wasn't even bad, at worst it dragged on too long, but the gameplay was fine is a little bland. Same for the Shooting and Treasure Hunting stages. The only argument people ever have for that is "Sonic should only ever have one gameplay style" which is stupid as shit.

>>387048870
It's all fucking Iizuka's fault. He's the one that's bankrupt on ideas.

>>387048736
Gamma and Knuckles were kind of fun in Adventure 1 actually. It's on Adventure 2 where they became shit, since the radar now detects 1 fragment at the time and the shooting levels are a piece of unplayable garbage. Back to Unleashed, the Werehog sections were not that bad, it's just that they drag for too long in the next gen releases. It could've been better if they were shorter, like in the PS2 version.

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>>387048354
>tfw modern 2d mario games are still just a bunch of tilesets that are inferior to a game from 1991

>>387048930
Same with Stardust Speedway for CD.

>>387048941
I'd have enjoyed the night stages more if I could chill to the amazing night music instead of hearing the start of the "battle theme" over and over again. And no, just muting the music and playing files of the night music from the dashboard is a fucking hassle.

>>387048870

Its less "creatively bankrupt" and more "they have no idea how to please fans because they don't know what they want"

Iizuka wasn't expecting Mania to be as well received as it was.

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>>387048870
>>387048976
It's more they have absolutely no faith in their own ideas than creative bankruptcy. Which they then project onto the mania team.
I really hope this is a success and I really really hope they let them cut loose for the next game.

>>387048736
>it's not as shit as something from adventure 2 so that means it's good
nah

>>387048873
It's mentioned in the dialogue, so it's pretty much guaranteed to be in the game.
Forces seems to be reusing a lot of Generations assets, so expect Sky Sanctuary AGAIN.

>>387048530
I'd love a game with all new stages, but I think at best we'd get another Mania like title full of remixes and some new stages.

Still, that'd be a lot better than nothing.

>>387047991
I prefer the UFO chasing in Sonic CD, but the collision on the UFOs is so damn wonky in that. Still, the new one they made looks like it has potential to be the best special stage yet.

>>387049180
It really is reusing a lot. The Egg Dragoon boss is another example.

>>387049152
Taxman must've hated Iizuka basically being a monkey on his back the entire way through development.

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>>387048941
>The only argument people ever have for that is "Sonic should only ever have one gameplay style" which is stupid as shit.

It's not stupid, though.

Focusing on one core gameplay style leads to a more focused and polished experience overall. Imagine if Sonic Team hadn't bothered with all those additional gameplay modes in Sonic Adventure and just focused on polishing up Sonic's campaign. We could of probably gotten one or two additional levels and less glitches up the ass.

The original Sonic games had multiple playable characters but they were merely just variations on the game's momentum/speed gameplay. They didn't have completely different gameplay modes that spread resources thin, like fishing, shooting, treasure hunting, the werehog, etc.

>>387048941
Unleashed fag detected
GTFO of here the werehog was shit

Sonic should only ever have one gameplay style because that's why we play his games in the first place. Not for shitty sword swinging, not for werewolf beat 'em up action, not for treasure hunting, not for shooting shit.

What kind of optimization issues could a 2D pixel-based platformer could possibly have?

>>387049391
It doesn't have Denuvo yet

>>387049391

Look up Tetris Ultimate for the PS4.

>>387049264
Don't forget the 20 recolored Death Egg Robots.

>>387049391
It seems obvious now that the PC version was the version that had the least work put into it while the console releases were the most important.

>>387049282
The reason for those new gameplay modes and styles was so they didn't want to make Sonic the most unless character in the game compared to others.

Don't believe me, play Sonic Advance, Sonic is actually the less interesting and is the worst character in the game because how basic he is

>>387049461
Really hope they show some actual new shit soon

>>387049548
Bullshit. This is Taxman we're talking about. He also said some time ago that it was running perfectly on his Notebook Laptop.

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>>387049575
The reason for those new gameplay modes and styles was so they didn't want to make Sonic the most unless character in the game compared to others.

Well, actually, it's because Sonic Adventure is kind of nothing more than a glorified tech demo for the Dreamcast. A lot of the game's elements are kinda just there to show off what the DC could do. For example, Big's fishing levels show of the system's water effects.

Who else here hopes that Knuckles, Tails and Sonic have different final levels, with Knuckles and Tails fighting different final bosses that Sonic couldn't normally fight?

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I'm doing the exact opposite. I finished Sonic 1 yesterday night, and I'm trying to beat Sonic 2 today. I've never got all the Chaos Emeralds in Sonic 2 without save scumming, but I'm going to practice special stages 5-7 for a bit then play the game without save scumming. Debating on playing the Game Gear games and Sonic 4 Episode 1 and 2 instead of just Sonic 1-3&K.

>>387049575
I don't know about advance 1 but sonic beats the fuck out of every character in advance 2 because of his air tricks. He's also the best in 3&k because of shield bonus/insta shield

>>387049676
Taxman will probably speak up about it soon after the console versions release.

>>387049696
forgot green text oops

>>387049720
I expect Knuckles' end game is probably very different just like 3&K. It would be nice if Tails has some of his own content.

>>387049575
>The reason for those new gameplay modes and styles was so they didn't want to make Sonic the most unless character in the game compared to others.
No it isn't. It was Iizuka's dumb idea to add "variety" and they wanted to promote their fishing game with Big the Cat

Sonic is the best character to play as in 3K because he can use the shields, he as insta-shield and his Hyper transformation gives him access to an owerpowered multi-directional double jump.

>>387049548
PC's are harder to develop for due to them being an open platform.

Then again, I wouldn't be shocked if it was done completely for the sake of piracy.

>>387049727
If you soft reset Sonic 2 and then go through the character select option before starting you get to keep the emeralds from your previous run. Granted, you do have to restart the whole game to do this.

>Little Planet got fucked up and left to rot on a cliffhanger yet again
Refunded as hard as I could. Time Twisted was shit enough about this for one year, thanks anyway.

>>387049893
I'm actually very fucking hopeful that he ends up fighting Mecha Sonic or some shit while Sonic fights the leader of the Hard Boiled Heavies and Tails does something else like possibly fighting Egg Kyodai Robo.

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I pre-ordered the Collector's Edition on PC.

I wonder how the delay affects me.

>>387049789
You do realize you just have to click the text you wanna quote before quoting a post to automatically greentext something right?

>>387049734
Are his air tricks really that particularly better than the other characters'?

>>387050036
You get the collectors edition on time but the code just unlocks sonic 1

>>387050036
Well you still aren't playing the game until the 29th, but at least you get a cool figure and a rom of Sonic 1 as a delay gift.

Could somebody recap me on all the bosses and act 1 bosses in the game, not including the final boss and Green Hill's bosses?

>>387048295
False

>>387048602
>>proceeds to show 06 and Unleashed
FTFY
Unleashed is a bad game, anon

>>387050182
>>387050121

Hm, I already own all the Mega Drive games on Steam. Wonder if I can give away my copy somehow.

>>387050036
you get all the stuff on the 15th including the code, you just can't download it from steam until the 29th

>>387049941
>If you soft reset Sonic 2 and then go through the character select option before starting you get to keep the emeralds from your previous run.
Do I have to put in the level select code in the options? I tried practicing with the level select before, and after I beated the first special stage and reset and put in the code again because it took me back to emerald hill instead of to the next special stage like I thought, it took me to special stage 2.

>>387050321
Well it's not like you could just download a rom of Sonic 1 from anywhere and play it in an emulator.

>>387049282
Now here's the thing, that philosophy may work in a 2D space, but it doesn't work anywhere near as well in a 3D one.

There is a reason why the current 3D games don't have you playing as anyone but Sonic, and that's because the "Sonic with a special power" mentality runs the risk of completely trivializing level design. A level built for Sonic is automatically broken in half when using Knuckles and Tails, their aerial mobility makes it so that you can ignore junks of level easily already in a 2D game.

Now imagine if it was a 3D game where you have the freedom to move in any direction you want, walls, gaps and other such obstacles are rendered useless when you can just fly over them or even worse they make it so flying is basically useless and never barely if ever gets used. Also, focusing the core Sonic gameplay is fine, but there is no reason why Sonic's friends with their other abilities beyond go fast shouldn't be highlighted in gameplay.

The Werehog, Big and Amy are the only instances in which I am willing to concede they was not necessary because two was a one off thing that never was present before and Amy's gameplay was the antithesis of Sonic, but Knuckles has always been a treasure hunter, Tails was always a genius, so them having gameplay that highlights that isn't an issue for me. And it's not as if they were slow either, slower than Sonic sure but compared to other platformers they still moved fast.

>>387049310
Good thing you still had that gameplay style or else you would have had something to complain about

>>387050094
If you want to go fast then yes. Changing direction in mid air is pretty damn useful. Honestly I think flying and gliding are overrated in sonic games, though they are fun to play with

>>387050401

Yeah but some people might want to start filling out their shelves in their 90s kid bedroom from the Hub.

>>387048306
Better than "turn 90 degrees 100 times" yes.

>>387050321
If you already have Sonic 1 it goes into your steam backpack

>>387050221
Just watch them on youtube.

>Delayed
>Advertisement for Forces
What a disappointment this turned out to be.

>>387050481
All of the characters have those midair tricks, not just Sonic.

>>387050672
>Delayed
Only for PC
>Advertisement for Forces
Only like at the very end

I bet you weren't even going to buy the game in the first place.

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>>387043949
I'm a huge fan but if Forces doesn't start looking a LOT better I'm going to skip it like Boom, Lost World, Secret Rings, 2006, etc.

>>387050121
How does the sonic 1 copy work? I pre-ordered the normal game from a different site and activated the code on steam but I don't have sonic 1 in my library nor is it in the dlc section of the mega drive collection.

>>387043639
I wanted to mix it up, I went through Sonic Classic Heroes for 1&2 and Sonic 3 Complete with Sonic & Tails and Knuckles. Went through CD remaster with Sonic and Tails too. Interesting way to play the classics. Going to try to beat Chaotix today with all the chaos rings, and maybe 3D Blast on Saturn afterwards. Anybody recommend any other Sonic games I can play? Open to good rom hacks too.

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what time does the game unlock for ps4

does it unlock exactly at midnight if im east coast?

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>>387050867
>I bet you weren't even going to buy the game in the first place.
Guess again.

>>387049180
sonic generations sky sanctuary was the best level in the game, better than the original and one of the best levels in modern sonic

>>387050456
>Good thing you still had that gameplay style or else you would have had something to complain about
I don't get what this is supposed to even mean

People play Sonic to run fast and platform not to beat shit up or shoot robots or catch fish.

>>387050891
The bubble shield really makes Labyrinth a cakewalk

>>387050938
Midnight EST, yep.

>>387050867
>Only like at the very end
So what? The ending sours the entire journey.

>>387050867
>I bet you weren't even going to buy the game in the first place.
You fucking nigger kill yourself

>>387050763
Really? It has been a while

>>387050957
>better than the original
lol

>>387051049
Look at you saying nigger how edgy

>>387049727
>Debating on playing the Game Gear games
If you haven't already played the 8-bit games, do it. They're fun and challenging. I suggest playing the SMS versions where available since you take advantage of the higher resolution. Officially, Sonic 1, 2, Chaos, Mean Bean Machine, Spinball, and Blast are all available on SMS, but there are also SMS conversions of GG exclusive games available:

Sonic 1: http://www.smspower.org/Hacks/SonicTheHedgehog-GG-GG2SMS (technically Sonic 1 is already on SMS but the game gear version fixes a lot of issues so this mod backports them back to SMS)
Sonic Triple Trouble: http://www.smspower.org/Hacks/SonicTripleTrouble-GG-GG2SMS
Tails Adventures: http://www.smspower.org/Hacks/TailsAdventures-GG-GG2SMS

There's also some conversions of Sonic Labyrinth, Tails Sky Patrol, and Sonic Drift 1 and 2 if you're interested in playing those games.

>americans woke up
>thread is going to shit again

>>387051023
Labyrinth already is a cakewalk

>>387050968
And you can still do that. The other shit clearly isn't for you, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be in the game.

>>387050957
I agree, I played Sky Sanctuary Generations probably 50 times I loved it so much.

>>387050302
It looks gorgeous and the day stages are some of the best in the boost games. What are you talking about, anon?

>>387051171
>edgy
Back too >>>/r/eddit/ with you

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>>387044689
Nigga delet that shit

>>387051023
Just pay attention to your air, there's enough bubbles to get through
The spikes are the big killer. That and the boss

>>387051152
I mean, it was visually more appealing, had godlike music and was really fun. I think it expanded really well on the gimmicks and level design (the original had very simple level design for the game). literally the only thing holding it back where the garbage 2d physics

>>387051256
Yeah man same

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>>387051226
Yeah, it's not like playing through all the other campaigns and game modes is required to get to the ending or anything like that.

>>387051193
Is there any hack that restores the Sonic 2 game gear ending to the Master System version

>>387051309
>"LE REDDIT MAYMAY XDXDXD"

>>387043196
So when are we going to get a fully realized Sonic Utopia?
It's legitimately the best 3D Sonic has ever played.

Anyone know how big sonic is supposed to be? I dont have an SD card for my switch yet but I dont have any downloadable games so I should be ok.

>>387051486
Do you mean Mania? Around 100MB

>>387051309
not him but this confirms my theory of you being underage. looking foward to summer ending.

>>387051392
Ok, that's a fair complaint. Still doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the game.

>>387051486
You'll have plenty of space, it's 186MB

>>387051023
True. Sonic 1 and 2 are pretty broken when you're overpowered with 3 characters and all the new shields.

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>>387047251

>>387050867
>tfw Sonic Mania goes right to the top of the steam charts
>tfw refund fags falter under the pressure and commit suicide

It's going to be a good day.

>>387051591
>>387051553

wew

for some reason I thought it'd be bigger. Music and stuff.

>>387051690
Uncompressed music is a problem but it's not like there's hours of uncompressed video.

So, what was that Knock Knock & Knuckles mode that Mark unlocked? Did he manage to activate it?

>>387051612
is she becoming a blue sphere

>>387051690
Retro Engine makes miracles.

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>Unlockable Moves in Mania
>Manina is now linked to forces
>Moves unlocked in mania can be transfered to forces
>Lockon File to back this up
>Last time lockon was used was for S3K
>Missing Extras button, Ones Bean Bean, others proabbly blue shperes
>Last Button is S3K Remaster by Taxman and Stealth
>MFW

>>387051652
I'll never understand the people that refunded then said they were gonna pirate it. Fucking childish is what it was.

>>387051931
You guys go. I have some unfinished business to take care of.

>>387051931
I don't want Forces steal more stuff from Mania.

>>387051935
It's pretty much just autism. I hope it's hard to pirate so they end up waiting even longer to play the game.

Like I understand being upset at the delay, but throwing a tantrum over it and acting like SEGA is spitting in your face is fucking childish.

>>387051393
You mean the music? None that I'm aware of. I'd love to see something restores all the Sonic 2 GG music to SMS, especially the boss music.

>>387052132
The only thing that makes me really sour is the links to forces. Like they just couldn't let it be its own thing and had to whore out their fucking game
I did let out a downright anguished groan when the delay was announced though. That shit sucks

I just checked the UK PSN Store. It's counting down to 00:00 GMT, 15/08/17. The filesize is 196.8 MB

How long until a sequel with 100% original levels?

>>387052390
Taxman/Stealth probably wanted their own game, but Iizuka basically made a deal that if they wanted to do this, they had to connect the upcoming 3D game to it against their will.

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/08/sonic-mania-is-already-so-good-id-buy-its-incomplete-version-as-is/

Here's one positive article, at least.

>>387052591
After 26 years.

>>387047838
Well Sonic 2 only had three zones to race on, and I know your first reaction would be ask "Why are we supposed to expect a level selection similar to Sonic 2 when it could just be better and add every zone?", but you have to remember that this is also the game where people expected something to be better in zone length and variety than 3K and yet here we are.

>>387052631
this. mania was tainted the minute it was announced. I'm surprised at people who didn't see this as a possibility

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IGN REVIEW UP

>>387044395
Sonic Mania OVA

>>387052658
Ars reposting their hype article from June really shows how excited they are to post their full review of the game when the embargo gets lifted. I hope other journalists are just as excited.

>>387052785
seems legit

>>387044721
Because originally, Sonic Mania wasn't going to be this huge thing it is today. We were supposed to get Sonic 1 & 2 HD for steam with this being like a small mini game and instead we got this

>>387052631
Oh there's no question about that. It's not much in the grand scheme of things but it does suck that people have to compromise on their dream game like that

>>387052591
If Mania does well enough, hopefully a year or two.

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>>387051931
>Unlockable Moves in Mania
N-NANI

>>387052954
Instashield and super peel-out. Forgot the rest.

>>387052954
If you get enough medals from the Blue Sphere stages you unlock the insta-shield and super peel-out to use in-game.

What does & Knuckles mode do?

>>387051931
>>Last Button is S3K Remaster by Taxman and Stealth
Do not and I repeat do not give yourself high expectations.

>>387053051
I demand source.

If you're memeing me, I swear to God.

>>387053068
Sonic Mania & Knuckles

>>387053106
I'm not memeing you. That Mark guy who got the game early posted it on his Twitter.

>>387052718
Sonic 2's 2P VS zone selection was due to technical limitations. They couldn't have zones with water like in CPZ and ARZ, or stages where the level itself changes like in HTZ, or stages that have vertical screen wrapping like MZ. The only stage that I think feasibly could have had 2P mode was Oil Ocean though there may have been a technical reason why in that case as well.
There's no reason why they wouldn't allow all levels to be in 2P in this game.

>>387052785
I almost think this was real what the fuck
>>387052954
Mark said that he unlocked the Super Peel Out after getting some medallions. He's so fucking bad that he doesn't even know how to use it though.

>>387052948
1 year isn't enough time for a new game. This game have 2 years yet this looks rushed.

i've never played a sonic game, is this a good starting point? if not, what other games do you recommend me to start with?
thx

>>387052631
>>387052784
This is pretty true, but I still have faith the game will come out good. It's not as awesome as it could have been, but it looks promising and has solid talent behind it.

>>387053328
Start with either 2 or 3&K. Your choice.

>>387053280
They can team up with Dimps to get the game finished quicker.

>>387053395
>Sonic Mania 2: Curse of The Sticky Walls

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So what did the medals unlock? I was here for the instashield and Super Peel Out and that's it. What else happened? Did Mark give up?

>>387043639

Because mania rehashes a lot of old zones and you'll be basically going through them again. You'll be sick of them or not enjoy them as much because they are not as fresh on your mind. This isn't a hard concept.

>>387053487
"we wanted to do things that weren't possible on genesis, like ceiling running" - Iizuka 2010

>>387053572
"& Knuckles mode", whatever that means

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>The entire soundtrack is gonna be dumped on those OST extension channels really soon

>>387053572
What was Robotnik even scuba diving for?

>>387053328
I personally suggest Sonic 2 as a good starting point. It takes Sonic 1 and refines it, removing a lot of its weak points (3 act zones, too much emphasis on slow platforming, etc) and emphasizing the stronger points. The only real downside to Sonic 2 is that they basically took it very safe, not trying to add a whole lot to the game like they did with Sonic 3. Sonic 2 is also the starting game for the Death Egg saga which concluded in Sonic & Knuckles. So my personal opinion: Sonic 2 and Sonic 3 locked on to S&K. Together they'll keep you busy for a while, and when you're done with them, you can lock Sonic 2 on Sonic & Knuckles to play Knuckles in Sonic 2 as an added bonus.

>>387053328
Either this or 3&K.

>>387053572
That boss was fucking adorable.

>>387053682
Activate the bombs earlier in the level.

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>>387053572
Mean Bean Mode!!!

>>387053682
Planting bombs

>>387043682
How can PCfags ever recover

>>387053746
Makes sense. Guess Sonic arrived to the boss fight too early.

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>>387043975
>Sony
Track record...
Hotel Transylvania, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs...pretty good!
Smurf Movies, Emoji Movie, Surf's Up..Live-Action / Animated..
Sonic is fucked. A Japanese Studio like Toei or Sunrise+D.I.D. should have done the movie. Better yet, Cartoon Network for the "Sonic Boom Movie" or whatever. Anything but Sony Animation.

>>387053678
Clean rip of Satan when?

>>387053682
He was trying to beat his personal swimming record when Sonic decided to be a dick and hijack his ride

>>387053824
>36 gold medals I have to get
oh no

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>>387053572
For someone who looks like a beach ball eggman can be surprisingly athletic

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A pic of Mean Bean mode.

>>387053678
By really soon, do you mean today or on the 15th?

>>387053824
WHAT
DON'T BULLSHIT ME ARE YOU SERIOUS?

>>387053871
What?

>>387053939
AYYYYY FUCK YEAH MEAN MEME MODE

>>387053824
So there are unique blue spheres layouts, after all.

Well, not including the S&K cartridge ones.

>>387053824
The one above Mean Bean is Blue Sphere I bet.

>>387053942
You can now play the definitive version of Dr. Robotnik's Mean Bean Machine in Mania's extras menu. Happy days.

>>387053942
Yeah man.

>>387053979
Satan from Puyo Puyo aka Mean Bean Machine's versus mode theme is in Sonic Mania.

>>387053824
How does this work, does beating Blue Spheres once only give you one medal or more than one?

>>387053939
Does it have its own theme?

>>387053939
>puyo 1 rules
I don't want my matches to last less than a minute. What the fuck Taxman

>>387051226
You have to do all that other shit to beat the game and nobody wants to do that you fucking shill. Kill yourself.

>>387053824
Blue Spheres mode above and then Sound Test below it. That's it. Pretty cool but it's literally nothing unless we get something REALLY special like a new character.

>>387054095
Oooh, yeah hopefully that'll be up quick as well. Those extension channels seem to be usually pretty fast so hopefully a day or two after the game's out.

>>387054138
If you get all the blue spheres you get a silver medal. If you get all the blue spheres plus get every ring and get a Perfect that you get a gold medal.

>>387053245

More so he cant find the menu to turn it on

>>387051931
yo ps4 anon here i was lying about lock on lol

>>387054138
Silver for completion/ Gold for Perfect, I think. I think you can only get one per unique layout.

>>387051379
>it was visually more appealing
No it wasn't
The Death Egg looked like shit in Generations and Sky Sanctuary was white instead of yellow like in the original. The level design was blocky garbage.

>>387051580
>Still doesn't mean they shouldn't be in the game.
Yes it does you utter underage cunt. You're in the minority for liking that shit, deal with it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cACZxuUy6zY
IS THIS IN THE GAME?

>>387051553
>>387051591
>>387051690
It's 400MB according to Steam

>>387051810
Retro Engine is a resource hog actually
Just compare the required specs for the original Half-Life to those for Mania.

Post yfw there are more rewards because they require golden medals, and we haven't seen them yet because Mark is shit at vidya.

>>387054417
We've barely seen any of the 30+ unique layouts, so who knows.

>>387054406
They aren't broken, your opinion isn't law anon and have a large portion of people who like them, and unless you have statistics you can't prove they are in the minority. You don't like them, fine, but your opinion isn't law, this is basic shit.

>>387051652
Nah we won't falter under anything since we'll just pirate the game you fucking corporate dicksucker.

>>387051935
>Company spits on your face
>Decide to refund the game because of this disrespect
How is this childish exactly? You shills are insane.

>>387054417
Possibly as an unlockable

>>387054510
Probably just upscaled textures etc.

It's 196 MB on consoles.

>>387054559
Yeah I'm imagining a lot of the really cool extra stuff is behind mostly gold medals. Seems that silver medals did get Mark Sonic's old moves back though.

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>>387054559

>>387049974
You know, unless you get the good ending.

>>387052132
You would have gone beserk if your console version was the one that got delayed you piece of shit don't even pretend.

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What is the crazed Sonicfandoms opinion on Freedom Planet?

I personally love it because of the levels are so massive and the added focus on combat while traversing levels at high speed. I have been replaying in anticipation for Mania.

>>387052785
>Nostalgia pandering
This sounds like it was written by a salty adventurecuck from /v/

IGN loves getting Nostalgia shoved down their throat.

>>387054559
I predict
>blue sphere
>a couple of extra new special stages maybe even a blue sphere mode for them
>new character
>new zone
do we know what &knuckles mode does?