Video games/Art regret

implying /v/ can draw or do anything creative

>>386824763
I have a tablet and yet I've neglected trying to draw.
I have no excuses i'm just shit.

Nah I gave after realising how long it actually takes to git gud at drawing unless you're a talent.

>>386824763
No because artists have shit jobs unless they work doing concept art. I would hate to whore myself drawing generic "lewd" art for mouth breathers way more than I would hate doing concept art that would get butchered when it transitions through another form of media.

>>386825213
>No because artists have shit jobs unless they work doing concept art. I would hate to whore myself drawing generic "lewd" art for mouth breathers

Yes, I'm sure getting 5k to 10k a month on patreon is such a horrible lifestyle when your only requirement is one drawing minimum per month. It must be torture.

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>>386824763
I know a d/ic/khead when I see one. The fuck are you doing here? Go back to /ic/ and DRAW.

>>386825097
>unless you're a talent.
Fuck off with this talent meme and just do it. NO EXCUSES. Draw until you can draw great samus futa porn for us to enjoy.

>>386825363
>implying drawing is like building muscle

>>386824763
I want to improve my art but video games fucked my head with their instant rewards and stimulation.

>>386825420
This, vidya is a drug and should be outlawed

>>386824763
I wish I spent more time writing instead of playing vidya, does that count?

>>386824763

Every time I start a drawing, I never finish it because I nitpick everything and end up scrapping it.

>>386825389
It's literally building muscle

>>386825363
>meme
Keep believing life is like anime and effort pays off. You're either born talented or shadman is the limit.

>>386825351
exceptions to the rule and why not just become a vlogger if you have that kind of luck?

>>386824763
Can you not do both? I spend at least 2 hours a day doing drawing exercises, than I spend an hour plating vidya

>>386824938
I make music for a living bitch

>>386825552
>shadman is the limit.
What are you implying?

>>386825658
link me your soundcloud, G

>>386825693
https://soundcloud.com/colin-tremingway

>>386824763
Her left leg makes no sense, the right one is twisted so much the bone must be broken

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>>386825389
>comparing his current shit skills to that of a person who've dedicated literal thousands of practice
This is why faggots like you wont make it. See that total playtime of yours? Just imagine if you spent it on drawing hentai instead of playing gaems. Yeah you'd still be shit at it, but not as shitty as you are right now; You'd actually be one step closer to drawing like shadman/asanagi or whichever degenerate you're following.

>>386825552
>You're either born talented or shadman is the limit.
What of it? Why do you feel the need to give the fuck about other people's being (not) talented? Ignore everything else and JUST DRAW. Focus on your own improvement and Im sure as hell improvement will follow.

>>386825750
DAWS? Suggested VSTs or guides/books? Any free VSTs of value?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

>>386825968
>You'd actually be one step closer to drawing like shadman

not worth it. If I can't even be better than shadman there's no point

I thought about getting into drawing, but then I realised that what gets me off the most is the stories that accompany pictures, not the actual artwork.

Some of my favorite "artists" have the drawing skills of a 5 year old. Looking at a beautiful picture does nothing for me, Samus might as well be a fucking tree for all the impact she makes on my penis. When I was 12 it might have been attractive, but now there's such an over-abundance of decent art that it does nothing for me.

No, I just wish I spent more time playing video games instead of on 4chan. Or learning Japanese.

>>386826772
Jesus christ dude. Not everything in the world is about sex

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>>386826719
Shadman doesn't try to improve. He draws shit porn because people get off to it, and that means he has an interest base which can supply him with income. He doesn't have a reason to improve when his shit style has become popularized, even iconic among certain fetish groups. Don't tell me you don't recognize a Shadman drawing when you see it, because you probably do. That's actual power, in an odd way.

You'd have a reason to improve, unlike Shadman, and waiting for some external force to push you is, inevitably, fruitless. Most people starting solid habits have to push themselves to do it for a while, then it becomes routine/common, and something is produced from that. It's similar to lifting, if that analogy makes any sense to you.

Basically, NIKE it.

It's never too late to start. Ulimately though. Just live your life to be happy. Beyond that it's all just pointless really.

>>386824763
No, I wish I spent more time drawing instead of shitposting on 4chan. The time I spend playing is small by comparison.

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>>386825968
This show was good as fuck. Everything about it was refreshing.
Good taste and apt points, my man.

>>386827051
Shad is pretty good though. Stay jealous of success kid.

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>>386827347
>Shad is pretty good though

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>>386827301
That art looks so wicked cool even if most of it is drawn hastily. It's so expressive and fluid.

>>386827347
>Shad is good
>Implying I'm trying to be an artist, and not producing music/game devving like a patrician.

Your words are futile, I have already won.

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@386827347
Try not to be so obvious next time, Shad.

>>386827271
This.
The only one I blame for my frustration is myself.

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>>386824763
Stop talking shit and post more vulnerable Samus!

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>>386827460
>music/game devving
>patrician.
HAHAHAHAHAHA with music I understand. But game development? HAHAHAHAHA literally for talentless people who can't get into the Arts. At the end of the day, they'd still need the skills of true artists (concept artists, music composers, sculptors etc)

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>>386827817
>Just making music
>Not having anything to express the music within
>Not telling me about anything you're doing.

I mean, you are doing something with your time, right Anon? I am--I'm learning Python right now, and it's going well. Why, I'd say it's going very well, in fact. Do you have anything going very well right now? I sure hope you do.

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>>386827051
>He draws shit porn because people get off to it, and that means he has an interest base which can supply him with income.

All his work is free and without paywalls or even patreon exclusive bullshit. He also doesn't do commissions because he wants to draw what he wants and not what other people want. I also hate his tastes, fetishes and art style, but you gotta respect his ethic.

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you're not alone
i want to be a good artist but I always end up playing games instead of trying to improve

>>386828134
He's still likely making decent dosh. I wish more artists would go that route instead of paywalling.

If I ever make my own grab for patreonbucks I'll try to leave everything free no matter what. At worst I'll give a week's early access to patrons or something.

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>>386827950
>anything going very well right now?
I don't know anything about Python, but I'm well on my way to improving my Art.

>>386824763
>not spending all of your time in high school drawing
My entire freshman and sophomore year of high school i just drew random shit every day because i didnt care, and my art improved so much. Around every edge of every assignment in all my notebooks are just random doodles

>>386828134
I never mentioned anything about paywalls or whether he likes his work or not, just that he doesn't have anything really urging him to improve his art, and he has an audience that appreciates his art as it is.

Didn't he have an active patreon for a while?

If he draws what he wants and has fun, good for him. That's the way to do it.

>>386828259
Good. Made me think of the fine FF artist's faces for a split second.

Some of the flesh looks a bit fat/bendy, especially the neck and right jaw-end. Might want to adjust that unless that's what you're going for.

>>386824763
You better not be posting that ugly shit as an example of the quality you wish you could draw

If you want to draw, you'd start today. It's not like there's a cut-off date for getting good at it. Hell, if you're still in your 20s you're still at prime time to start

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>>386828134
>but you gotta respect his ethic

It's respectable but are you implying that wanting money for art is somehow less respectable?

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>>386828525
>in your 20s you're still at prime time to start
And if you're in the eve of your 30s?

>>386824763
I love drawing but i do struggle to just find the time and energy to do it
I've increased in skill substantially over the past 4 years from when i could only do front-facing disproportionate figures.
I should probably start practicing animals and 3-dimensional objects as well though. But I'd say I'm pretty good proof that if you just keep practicing you'll eventually get better

>>386828679
Paywalling digital art kind of is. Not because it's wrong to want money, but because in CURRENT YEAR people who work digitally should understand the benefits of a large audience "pirating" your stuff.

>>386828821
But what's the benefit of people getting all your stuff if you don't charge for it? Artists can't live off exposure.

>>386829018
You don't need to directly charge for your stuff to get money for your stuff.

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>>386824763
>>386824972
just set a time every day, a tiny bit, build on it

>>386824763
This was me 4 years ago. Now im here stuck making fucking smut porn for a living...

Just play your damn vidya games...

>>386828763
>And if you're in the eve of your 30s?

you'd be better of killing yourself if you're in your late 30s and still keep anime CP on your computer

>>386829130

So what about a Plague setup, no paywall but just earlier access to his content and some """clout""" on the discord?

I think it works pretty well, at least for Eli...

>>386829216
>hand drawn vs digital copy+paste preset brush layers no applicable art skills media

that's not drawing

>>386828763
If a 60 year old man can learn ballet, you can learn to draw.

>>386828763

Richard Feynman took up art in his 50s and became pretty decent.

>>386829273
I think it's fine, I don't know what the best system would be because as a platform the patreon model is still very new.

I simply think that going full locked pornsite is pretty retrograde, especially considering how much more willing people keep getting to throw money at things they can get for free.

>>386825750
yo this SHIT is FUCKIN whack SON kys my m an

>>386829287
>no applicable art skills media
err.. what?

>>386829216

I really wanna see one of ya anons do this with something in the realm of Bio-mechanical.

This is NOTvme moving goalposts, I really like seeing before and after and I want to see it for that content.

I am expecting an "be the change you want to see" response...its may happen at some point.

>>386825558
I don't think its an exception entirely.
You just find a niche with people who are willing to pay money. It's easier with porn than vlogging.

Mostly because there is a seemingly infinite amount of furries with autismbucks.

>>386829216
Hey, that's pretty good! Is that yours,anon? Show more.

>>386824763
that is a lewd picture

>>386829216
>>386829484
This, desu

>>386829376

Agreed, Especially for the high grade content you can get free. ESPECIALLY for as compared to so "meh" paywallers. No contest.

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>>386829484
>>386829537

not mine I just saved it, for motivation to improve

>>386829558
he was good enough late 2015, the 2016 one just shows he sucks at backgrounds

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>>386829558
>peaked at 2015

>>386829558
It got worse overtime.

>>386829463
I don't want to draw furry or weeb shit though. It's better to have an honest job you're happy doing.

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>>386829637
>>386829661
>>386829675
what about this guy

>>386829661
I don't know, those tits are getting bigger

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I wanna draw but nowadays it's a fucking chore.

>Can't draw what you want because everyone will go "lol literally what is that" if you have obscure tastes
>Have to homogenize your art to the point you're basically a copy of "x artist but with something slightly different"
>Have to network and brownnose other popular artists, 90% of who are insufferable cunts and horrible people
>Everything is just obsessing and desperately trying to be Japanese hentai artists or other artists that are ripoffs of japanese hentai artists OR the top daily rankings of Artstation, no sense of variety or imagination
>Draw memes and twitter trends or have fun never being noticed

And no you can't "just ignore it" and "do what you want" because in the year 2017 everything is cliquey and meme-y as fuck and people wil literally blackball you from communities for not being exactly like them.

They will literally ruin your lives over it.

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>tfw I've been "trying" to get back to drawing since 2011 and I 've drawn a little over 50 pieces in all that time
>Every time I pick it back up I have to re-learn anatomy and get used to my tablet again

At least I've more or less stuck with it this year, my output is slow as fuck but I've drawn more this year than I did between 2011-2016 combined.

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Is there actually any artist here on /v/?
I am an aspiring artist myself and would like some internet draw friend very much desu.

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I started at 18yo and I'm wuite proud on what I archived, tho these last months I've been drawing much less, should go back to it.

Still, it's never really too late. If it's what you like, do it. It's about your enjoyment.

>>386829794
He did technically improve in the span of one year, so good for him. Can't say the same about that super generic, text book 2000's anime style he's going for. Needs to learn more color theory too.

imm gonna enter a video game fanart contest actually. winners gets their pic on the game site gallery, the best drawings get their pic in the in game gallery

wish me luck

>>386830137
Link? good luck
>>386830006
>>>/ic/

>>386830286
http://m2stg.com/mahou-daisakusen/illustcontest.html

>>386830006
>implying that any person on /v/ have any talent

>>386830137
Good luck stupid gay bitch

>>386829995
>>Can't draw what you want because everyone will go "lol literally what is that" if you have obscure tastes
You're already shutting yourself down here with this point which is more of an excuse than a reason. The stress you're putting on yourself only matters if you're trying to go for commission/donation money. If that's what you are going for, you're turning from "wanting to draw for recreation" to "having/needing to draw as a job".

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>>386829995
>They will ruin your lives over it.

Only if you let them.

>People will blackball you from communities for not being exactly like them.

So? Those people are boring and produce nothing of merit. It's just the same old shit--'copies', like you said. Why be in a place you are unwanted, that will only push you to mediocrity anyway? Unless your focus is fame among the plebian masses, I don't see the point.
>and no you can't...
No, you choose not to because you refuse to brace against the torrents of shit people and their shit lives, productions, and actions. Just like you're choosing to fap yourself to sleep every night and complaining/weeping on 4Ch instead of gitting gud.

Stop using 'literally' so liberally, or you will literally fall into a dreadful curse where, literally, your nut hairs will literally harden into small metal flakes (literally) and literally fuck your literal shit up literally 24/7. Literally.

>>386830025
That would be cooler if you did a more downward-angle shot.

Loomis

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Practice makes perfect
Though i tend to lose all motivation seeing how some artists can become better in several month, and i'm still at the shitty phase after all this time.

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>>386829995
This is true to some extend, I was originally only draw something that interested me only for like a year or two and manage to get my fb fan page to have 300-400 likes, but at a painfully slow pace, until one day I decided to draw a pic about a big idol group that's a big thing in my country at the time and over the night my fan page likes skyrocket up to 700+ just like that.
Sadly in this day and age being an artist is not about the quality of your work anymore, but it's about trend, that's why you see so many shitty artist with over thousands of follower everywhere.

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>>386824938
Not amazing, but it gets the point across.

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>>386830627
Loomis is a meme. There isn't one path to mastery and not all paths work for everyone.
Also I'm fully aware of the mistakes I made, but if I had to fix every mistake I do in every drawing, I wouldn't have any drawing to show, since I'd be constantly fixing it.
They say "good artists know when to stop".
Doesn't mean I'm a good artist either.

I already draw more than I play games. It's all demented shit like bestiality and traps

>>386831261
>Loomis is a meme.
>Not realizing where we are.
>Not realizing the underlying meaning of the Loomis meme.
>Not realizing I just wanted to help because I thought it was cool, and felt you were selling yourself short by going innactive.

>>386831378
Post it

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I can draw a bit but not good in coloring.

>>386824938
I do work for Dark Horse and Image comics so...yeah.

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>>386831405
Oh no, I'm innactive due my summerjob being too tiring, but after that I'm planning on getting back to it.
And I was aware you weren't being an asshole, it was constructive criticism. It's just that loomis isn't for everyone, even if it helped many people.

I just wanted an excuse to post my shit.

>>386831717
I am not -that- demented.

>>386831719
>can draw anime

come back when you have your own style and learn proper human anatomy and proportion. I teach an art class and have to teach kids to unlearn everything they think they know when they come in saying they know how to draw and it's anime stuff.

>>386831857
You're probably horrible at it then.

>>386831913
There is literally nothing wrong with anime you snot.

>>386832062
Nothing wrong with anime in itself but if it's all you know how to draw by either copying what you see in magazines or pausing movies then you have a long ways to go. If you do it for fun and can draw from scratch from your head in your own style cool. If all you do is redraw shit that already exists...you're not an artist. I'm just saying. Not sure which one you are personally.

>>386831812
>Summerjob too tiring

I know how that is. I had to quit my job because it messed with the rhythm of my whole life. I sympathize with you.

It's refreshing to see good Western-style art. Good luck with that picture. Wicked start for a dishonored picture.

Please make the platform/tower crumbly and stony. That would look sick.

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>practice drawing everyday for years and want to be a professional artist
>finally got my first commission last month after years of practice
>mfw the first commission I got was to draw a furry porn with milf dog and shota rat
>I never even drawn a furry character before but did it anyway because I'm poor and needed the money
>after finish drawing, I realize that I'm becoming what I hated the most
>mfw it's only for 10$

I only ever want to draw cute anime girls for a living, is it time to stop bros?

>>386824763
Everyone wishes they would've spent their time improving a craft rather than playing games
playing games is short-term present satisfaction.
Working hard and practicing your shit skills is not fun

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>>386832210
>tfw I want to draw commissions for a bit of extra money
>I even have several people asking me if I take comissions
>online payment processors hate the banks in this shithole of a country
>I could be making money with commissions, but I'd have no safe way to with draw the money
>tfw I wish I had a Murrican bank account.

>>386824763
I'm practicing art, 3d modelling, and C#. I might not ever be great but the dream is to get good enough to draw fanart and make small fangames for the cartoons and anime I like.

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>tfw really wanted to learn to draw growing up so I could do character design for games
>made the effort but got bullied into quitting
>tried again in high school, gave it everything I had for a few months and started to see actual results
>hurt my dominant hand in an accident and now 4 years later it still won't stop shaking
>precise, delicate tasks are borderline impossible
>can't even read my own handwriting

On the plus side the spasms help with typing. I moved on to writing fiction and now I can type real fast.

I make a point of reading or writing for at least an hour every day, and when playing story-heavy games I make note of the plot progression and structure. I'd still really like to be able to draw fat anime titties but this will do just fine.

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>>386832210
No, it's time to milk the furries, my man. Milk them for every autismbuck they're worth.

>>386832345
i'll help you out for a small cut

>>386829287
Go paint your cave faggot.

>>386828763
Van Gogh started when he was 27 wasnt it?

>>386832454
But Anon, now you can describe in great detail how fat those anime titties in your head are.

>>386832727
Yeah but he was also bat shit crazy

>>386833245
Then you probably have a slight edge on him, don't you? Might be easier to learn to art when your pen isn't telling you to cut off your ear.

>>386830056
To be fair that practice involves redrawing the same character. He might be able to pull off other styles with a better understanding of colour theory.

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>>386832986
And I do! I've taken a couple of shots at writing smut. It's fun but harder than it sounds.

The problem for me is that I over-describe characters because I have a visual idea of what my characters look like and really want others to see them as I do. I care a lot about visual storytelling and character design, but it's hard for me to talk about what makes it important without being able to design them myself.

So instead I just collect KOF fanart.

>>386833423
Who's your snk waifu

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>>386833478
Vanessa, she's my main in 2002UM.

Yuri is also top tier though.

>>386833530
>Not Angel
Eh, Vanessa is just as good, you have fine taste.

>>386833423
>Not practicing your tiddy description skills every day.
>Not expressing the curvaceous forms of flesh plopping over your mental eyelids, producing frames of lusty, musky sex.

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Games actually inspire me to draw more recently, here's my most recent and proudest sketch, got me in a medieval feeling thanks to M & B.

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>>386833579
I really like KOF's approach to character design in that characters for the most part are wearing either normal stylish clothes, traditional martial arts costumes, or small variations thereof. Angel feels just a little less grounded. I take the same issue with most of Falcoon's designs. Shen Woo is an exception, he's the shit.

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>>386824763
Oh my, what's this? a stealth draw thread? OwO
I'm not gonna make it

>>386824763
I wish zeronis still made nudes, he started to improve on anatomy and shit

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>>386833717
Looks good! it's a pretty complex scene you did a great job man. Altho you should probably use a darker pencils.

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>>386833947
His proportions are a-okay in my book. It's a trademark of his that sets him apart from others.

>>386826092
FL studio, pirate all the big vsts for a start to try them then slowly buy the ones you like

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>>386833583
There's a certain tactile feel to an inverted nipple pressed against your palm or an eyelash brushing against your cheek that doesn't always translate so well through words, you know? I find if I try to describe the really nice little things like that I end up using twice as many words to say half as much.

Though I noticed that in smut I also have a tendency to dwell on descriptions of how a woman smells, which is probably even more pointless.

Smell-o-vision when?

>>386832062
When you learn from unrealistic proportions, it is wrong. You always start by drawing from real life, otherwise you make mistakes (small ribcage, hips come up too high on the body, slightly short arm) already present in the artists work.

>>386832454
>>hurt my dominant hand in an accident and now 4 years later it still won't stop shaking
>>precise, delicate tasks are borderline impossible
tremors are horrible things that really shake your confidence
that's the only pun I've figured out since my tremors started, it's only like 15% funny and the rest is just depressing reality

>>386834361

If anyone ever offers you a handshake you could say, "No thanks, I've already got one".

>>386832169
>Good luck with that picture
Sadly I lost the originals. Maybe one day I'll get back to it.

And yeah, having your job getting in the way of your life is a nightmare. Thanks god it's just during summer, a day without drawing feels like a wasted day imo, even if it's just some quick sketches.

>>386834436
ahaha

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>>386834234
>"the big VSTs"
>Mentions nothing
Guess I'll just stick to making nothing in FL with Nexus.

>>386834256
There's audiences for everything. Some people like finely detailed erotic images over plain smut, and want to go through a journey.

So long as it isn't so excessive that it becomes a complete snoozefest, then you should be fine. I think so, at least.

>tfw inverted nips on teeny-tiny breasts never ever.

>>386834447
Keep up something, at least. It might be hard, but I think it's important to have some maintenance in these hard times.

The continuity is important. It's what makes it rewarding--witnessing and feeling the changes and improvements.

Nah I'm pretty happy with how much I draw. I just wish I had a better tablet so I could post my stuff online, 'cause what I draw is too weird to show the people I know irl.
I do have a tablet, but its like the size of a bow and only like 40% of that tiny size is the actual part that takes input. I draw with my arm rather than wrist so its basically unusuable. It was free though, so eh

>>386834361
I should count myself lucky in that it's only really a big problem when I'm gripping something small like a pencil. I can still feed myself normally and have minimal problems operating a rifle safely. I'm still pretty quick with a mouse too, but something intimate like 3D modelling in blender is out of the question.

Once in a while it gets really bad though. I've cut myself pretty bad before after losing control. I'm very careful with bread knives now.

>>386834695
True, I've gotten better at being concise with descriptions but I've got a weird hard-on for adverbs. "delicately" and "viciously" are probably my favorite words and I need to go back and proofread my stuff to make sure I didn't use them more than once.

strong taste.

Also, try torrenting the Komplete pack. it comes with Kontakt (orchestral instruments, piano and choir samples), Massive (DIY synths), Absynth (weird shit) and a whole bunch of other good instrument packs.

There's also the free DSK plugins for if you need something specific.

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>>386825658
>tfw I want to do that too but still too amateur and what I usually make is not popular so nobody will ever hear it
I make it for my own amusement tho.

>>386833301
No. Crazy gives a(u)rtistic powers

>>386834020
Hey thanks pal, didn't think the image quality would be so shite, but rest assured I intend to go over it with a pen.

>>386824763
You can do both, you know.

>>386825351
those usually already started years ago and acquired a following on sites like deviantart

>>386835126
>but something intimate like 3D modelling in blender is out of the question.
it's really disappointing how few modelling programs support just numeric inputs like entering numbers for the x/y/z points instead of dragging them around, seems like it could be pretty intuitive to model like that
>Once in a while it gets really bad though. I've cut myself pretty bad before after losing control. I'm very careful with bread knives now.
yowch, all I've been doing is accidentally throwing screwdrivers across the room

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>>386835432
Yeah, I cut myself down to the bone working at a bakery earlier this year. They didn't have cut gloves and I was struggling to get through a really tough, chewy stale sub bun. I tried to turn my wrist and ended up sawing halfway through my thumb. My coworker I was planning on asking out screamed out loud and started gagging when she turned and saw the blood. Ruined a good shirt too.

Fucked up my combo game in Garou, I'll tell you what.

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THE ARTIST HAS NO HANDS
RIP IN PEACE

Are there any good books or sites for animal anatomy? Especially sexual organ anatomy? e621's the only place I really know of where I can get good animal anatomy references.

I just want to draw a comic about a thirsty cat that wants to get fucked by her owner. Is that so much to ask?

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I regret everything I do but at least I can draw simple fanart of the games I play.

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>>386824763
I'm honestly considering dropping my computer science career at 30 and getting into arts.

After 4 years working I realized I hate this and just thinking about doing this for another 35 years makes me wanna kill myself.

No. I spent all my time in high school thinking I was going to be an artist in the future and neglected my other classes. Didn't get into college besides art school (which was way too expensive), had to go to community college and hated it. Took me a year to finally decide to give it up. Now I'm about to graduate with a STEM degree with a 3.6 GPA, but I could have avoided all that bullshit had I just given up on what would be a useless career sooner. I'm just glad I don't have to be one of those deluded people that thinks hes somehow going to make a living off of art.

>>386827051
I like Shadman's style.

>>386824938

I don't know if you can call tabletop gaming creative, but I do run and make games and game worlds.

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>>386835779
>even as his body was failing him, he just wanted to draw more pretty girls for his fans
A true hero.

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Reminder that you will NEVER EVER draw like this. Why even bother.

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>>386833901
>tfw no one comment on your drawing
I fucking know it, i know this going to happended, life is suffering
>>386835849
>30
NOT GONNA MAKE IT
The tricky thing about art is that is take a long time, A LONG TIME to be decent at it.
If you planning to make a living off art then i hope you prepare to throw away your self-esteem. Draw furry, fetishes, degenerates shit.

>>386833423
Have you ever tried making your n9n dominant hand into your dominant hand?
I've heard it's possible with enough practice

anyone has that image where a schizo guy's drawings slowly gets crazier

>>386835854
The trick is to do art as a hobby. My job is pretty much just eight hours of downtime a day, so I can draw during work. I'm sure I'll never get famous or even become very good, but I'd hate myself if I never bothered trying.

>>386835849
Do some research into getting a loan and starting your own business in the field, see if it's feasible for your line of work. Then you're the boss and you can have someone do the boring parts of the work for you. If it works out and you start making money you can invest in a townhouse and rent it out to students for automatic money.

I'm oversimplifying it, but at 30 you're probably at the ideal time to give it some thought.

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>>386833901
>>386836062
>using OwO
>expect anyone to reply to that
Honestly anon, your art is pretty good but that is just a bad post, nobody's going to want to reply to that.

>>386836092
I thought about it but as I said, my right hand is only a problem under specific circumstances. It's not an everyday hindrance.

Also, I was only just beginning to build artistic skill 4 years ago. My left hand is basically a wet noodle with fingers. I'd be starting from scratch, with a handicap. As much as I'd like to be able to someday draw asses well, I've more or less moved on.

Besides, the way the internet is today I can find whatever kind of art of whatever characters I want if I look hard enough.

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>>386836056
Because I'll be more than happy if I get somewhere close to this good. I'm not trying to be the next Da Vinci here. I just want to be the next Smitty G.

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>>386824938
Fuck off m8, I can draw and be creative. I am just horribly lazy and unproductive and I produce maybe 3-4 proper finished drawings in a year at best.

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>>386836136
This guy gets it. This is the way to go, and once you're sure that you can make enough money you can just quite your job then.

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>>386836134

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>>386836391
Well on the bright side your goal is pretty fucking low, 2 years is more then enough to surpass that.

>>386836056
Sakimi? She's very talented, there's no denying it, but I feel she's overrated.

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>>386836523
Now that's is some good fucking drugs

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lmao my handwriting is shittier than a 2 year old chinese handwriting
I don't expect myself to draw good
Actually I tried to draw once but I realized I can't do symmetry and proportions but I was good with body parts so I ended up doodling lots of lovecraftian looking shit with the ribs, bones, eyeballs, fingers and teeth.

>>386836545
There's just a painfully small amount of male human on female animal stuff out there. It's all human women and men with male animals. My primary goal is to draw a lewd webcomic about a cat that falls in love with her owner.

After that, maybe I can come up with another goal to help keep growing. A Dredd fan comic would be neat. And I've always had this idea about a cat and dog detective team.

>>386836062
What if I want to get into painting, sculpting and photography and not so much into drawing? I'm actually talking about getting into an arts degree.

>>386836147
Yeah, I should try something like that, as plan B.

>>386836523
Reminds me of the picture showing the progression of Alzheimer's in a patient.
The final 'signature' they try to write is just a scribble.

>>386836727
>lmao my handwriting is shittier than a 2 year old chinese handwriting
>I don't expect myself to draw good
Pretty much completely unrelated, actually. My handwriting is worse than yours, I guarantee it. It was bad enough that my teachers often made me type essay sections instead of write them on tests. Drawing is a conscious effort to make something look good while with handwriting, you're just trying to get your ideas on the paper as quick as you can. You just want an excuse to not even bother trying.

Yes, if I drew as frequently as I did when I was a kid my skill would be crazy.

>>386836768
Depending on what you want to sculpt, /toy/s got some nice sculptors. One of them is me :^) And many of the same skills are involved with painting/sculpting and drawing, actually.

>>386825389
It is.

>>386834361
>>386832454
Can't you try to draw with your non-dominant hand?

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>>386836768
Hmm, let's see, traditional painting these days won't pay you much, with digital painting on the rise more and more, you better off go digital. Although it's very competitive. Drawing sex for money is a very quick way to make cashes because most people don't demand much as oppose landscape, potrait, v.v. Most degenerates will gladly pay you, furryfag, fetishesfag in general.
I don't know much about sculpting so sorry.
Photography is very versatile and can land you a decent job if you know how to advertise yourself.

>>386836847
I found out just a few years ago that I taught myself to hold pens and pencils in a wrong way. I can do good handwriting but I have to write slowly and it easily strains my hands and wrist because of the wrong positioning. My parents and teachers never noticed this because I'm lefthanded. Only in the later years when I have to write fast did my true handwriting show up. I could probably teach myself to hold it properly but I'm too busy shitposting and playing vidya

Every time I fap to an amazingly drawn doujin I just wonder if these people aren't wasting their god-given talent on stupid shit. Like, Kon-Kit could probably draw fantastic manga, his works already exist in shared fapverse.

>>386828763
Just do it.

Don't let your dreams be memes.

>>386835849
Just go into IT and make cash off of fools who don't know any better

>>386837478
IT?

>>386837389
H-manga are manga. Some H-manga are way better than the shit published by magazines like Jump, in both art and writing. It's a genre that the authors chose because it's what they are interested in. There is no real money in the H scene so it's mostly a passion thing.

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Real men do sculptures and molest and fuck their creations afterwards

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>>386837526
Information technology

>>386837526
instant tranny

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>>386837568
Oh fug

>>386837569
I don't get what you mean, I'm already working on IT. That term is too broad.

>>386837625
this isn't speedrunning, anon

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>>386837568
Does toy making count?

>>386837389
dat one nigga what did Ajin - demi human did ero mangas before
apparently someone on here mentioned how he wanted to go back to ero mangas since it made him so much money
so yes - drawing nekkid wimins in scandalous situations is lucrative... maybe just in japan though

>>386837389
Why is it wasting it if they're not doing something you imagine you'd do with that skill?

What then is making the most of it if not making money by drawing exactly what you want to draw?

>>386837759
Maken-ki! guy used to draw porn too. Got two cours of anime out of it and his manga's still going. And the Aiki mangaka used to draw porn.

Hell, MOST artists start drawing a lot of porn. Rebecca Sugar has a ton of EEnE rule34 she drew floating around there, for the most famous example.

>>386837568
id molest the fuck out of that statue too if i could
i seriously am curious about the process involved in sculpting a vagina that detailed and true to life though

>>386838027
>EEnE

I sure hope you don't mean Edd, Ed, & Eddy.

>>386838318
Anon, I...

>>386829995
Mfw someone who was a friend of mine started with a pretty special style that was cute and such, FF to some years later he is now drawing with meme proportions and drawing shitty fetishes making dosh on shilltreon, now the only thing he does is shilling his art and dont even talk anymore, fucking porn artist ruin everything and become so fucking antisocial

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>>386838479
Fuuuuck

>>386830006
Please do not step in the drawthreads i beg you anon you will be ruined forever

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>>386837753
>amputee FAGs

>>386830006
STAY AWAY FROM /IC/
STAY THE FUCK AWAY

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I am a semi-popular monster hunter fan artist, but I'm mad that I can't draw anything other than monhun now.

>>386838791
Just draw something besides monhun

>>386838909
I cant. No one likes those.

>>386838479
post Maries pls

>>386838669
I'm making polynian dicks now while I try to figure out how to recast those arm and leg shackles.

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>>386824763
Daily reminder that the fastest way to become a popular sell out artist is to become a hack. Pic related
>>386838791
>Monhun art
Cool, mind post works?

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>>386824763
i stop drawing for a long time but i really need to get back at it. i just get so frustrated with myself and my art. i need to drop the controller and pick up the pencil again.

>>386839079
They weren't even trying to hide it with some of these.

>>386839059
Do you make holes for those dicks to go in?

>>386839079
I'm phoneposting. Here ya go tsflipp.tumblr.com

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>>386824763
fixed

>>386839079
some of those look alright

>>386839220
They were, but people called them out on it. Then those pictures suddenly became "studies."

>>386839310
thats actually kinda hotter

>>386837526
IT Guy
But good luck with drawing. Just rememeber at the cost of dignity the quickest way to make a buck is to take furry commissions.
Funny thing is that I'm going to a computer science career.
>>386837568
>Never saved the last statue/sculpture thread images
Fuck

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>>386839295
lol that 2 panel Tetsucabra one is cool, you should draw more of it. There, followed

>>386829347
His "art" is awful. You can draw better with less than a year of training.

>>386839294
Not yet, but that's a good idea to try next. I was also considering trying to add articulation, both where the dick meets the crotch, and on the hyper version, on the dick itself.

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>>386839295
SOURCE!
The shell looks really neat, my dude.

>>386839310
now make on with ass that is fat but has small tiddies

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>>386839310

>>386839310
THICCER plz

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>>386837568
Wow, that artist sculpts some big guys.

>>386839310
fix helmet

>>386839468
I would rather draw furry porn for a living than coding some inane java web app no one cares about.

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>>386839649
>>386839582
fixed helmet, and THICCER, although I prefer the second version

>>386839295
Hey I saw you in /mhg/. You're a good artist and you should draw what you want even if nobody else likes it, draw for you.

>>386839601
>Erect penis
>Points straight down
Let me guess, the sculptor is a woman?

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T H I N N E R

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>>386840040
This thin enough

>>386840026
Larger penises are weighed down like that.
I've seen a lot of penises.

>>386840229
It's not that big. Looks slightly bigger than average. Maybe you're asian.

>>386840305
Maybe you're black.

>>386839860
Disgusting.

>>386840040
yes pls, this obese meme has got to end

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>>386840392
>>386840446
LOLI THIN SAMUS

>>386840519
Shorten the spine.

>>386839079
he's a good colorist tho

and a lot of those don't seem to be hiding it.

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>>386840519
now put a dik on the left one

>>386840305
it's engorged
or it's normally like that when not full of blood

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>>386840573
>>386840685

>>386840771
You're talking about half-chubs? That's not a half-chub my friend.

>>386839650
Understandable, I might as well try other avenues on the side if I get burnt out as well. Like cooking/catering since my mum does that.

>>386829995
You literally don't have to do anything you don't want to. If you're drawing for anyone but yourself, you're gonna have a bad time.

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>>386840785
now on the right one

>>386824763
I used to draw a lot. Participated in the draw threads, then my art blog got popular enough that people started asking if they could commission me.
I stopped for awhile though. Just a combination of not thinking my art was worth the praise it received and just not wanting to draw fan art anymore. Every time I posted art for an idea of mine it would get overshadowed by the fanart.

I feel a lot of guilt for stopping though. I legit can't focus on playing video games anymore because in the back of my head I know I should get back on that horse and start drawing again, but I feel no motivation or purpose to it when I do sit down and try to draw.

>>386841126
gimme a dick pic in the right angle and I put it on it

>>386825552
>making excuses before you even start
Don't kid yourself. You were never gonna make it. If you practice smart and hard, you'll surprise yourself. Of course, someone with your mindset has never practiced smart and hard at anything.

they key is to not get flustered and angry when things don't work out like you want and instead keep a cool mind and rationally think about what you want to achieve and how you can get there. also do art projects rather than random doodles and try to do as much planning you need in order to get the project done. doing projects and writing down every little step you need to do to get there has always helped me the most, not only speaking about drawing here.

>>386840856
the marble guy does have a pretty big dick and you dont have to be hard to have your Big Dick look like that but its gonna rely on some pretty specific conditions.

t. guy with a big fucking dick (its not as good as you think)

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>>386841170
done

>>386841512
I'm done talking about a marble fucking penis.

>>386840785
>>386839860
Her left leg looks increasingly wonky as she gets thinner, the loli just looks like she has a massive bulge.

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>>386841839
Slightly move it to the right and add precum stain to make it more apparent

>>386824938
>3-angled-blue
>drawthreads
>/ctt/

>>386825552
>I have no talent, therefore I'm not going to practice
>See, I can't draw

You're a self-fulfilling prophecy, you are.

>>386841842
its a pretty nice penis though isnt it

>>386825612
Do you work, anon?

>>386825552
Shadman could very well earn a lot of cash if he wanted.

>>386843282
I'm pretty sure he already does earn a lot of cash.

>>386825389
Talent is tying a cherry stem in your mouth.
Skill is drawing well after years of practice.

>>386830006
>>386838771
At the very least, take everything they say with a grain of salt, and be prepared to have your ass handed to you, and not in the good way.

>>386842910
Talent isn't some kind of hidden perk, talented people know they have an aptitude for certain things. Physically gifted kids very soon find out that they can do things faster and stronger than other kids their age, intellectually gifted kids start easily solving problems their peers can't wrap their heads around. I don't see why artistic capabilities should be different. I doubt Rembrandt struggled for years drawing kawaii-uguu shit until suddenly hardworking himself god-tier drawing ability.

>>386831913
If the picture posted were of some DA noob-tier anime then I'd agree with you, but that's clearly better than the average "I wanna be a mangaka". I could see him going into concept art.

>>386825552
>implying shadman is doing anything wrong

he fits a niche, he is prolific, and the things he draws are dirty in a way few if any current artists are

>>386831719
Nice!

>>386843770
Yes, some people start better and learn faster. Obviously. But you realize that all of the people you described need to still practice, right? Why do you think that drawing is some magic skill that only a select few lucky people will ever get any good at?

But I probably shouldn't bother. You've already decided there's no point in starting so nothing I say will change your mind., and then you'll use your own failure as further 'evidence.'

>>386824763
The only gain I'd have for drawing is being able to make my own lewds when I need to.

I'd probably draw a lot of girls in helmets and masks and then hold the unmasked variants of the pics for ransom of 20-40 bucks or so. All it'd take is one guy to set it free, no Patreons or anything. Just one guy has to pay for the unmasked version and I'd keep doing this to no end.

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>don't draw for 2+ years
>doodle one day
>hand hurts
fuck me, I have a lot of stuff to do throughout my day to be able to sit down and work on my drawing ability

>>386844168
Don't draw so hard then autist.

>>386835045
>its like the size of a bow and only like 40% of that tiny size is the actual part that takes input

Lemme guess, Intuos small? I had the same beef.

>Finally get tablet
>It's like starting from square one all over again
Fuck. I did not expect tablet drawing to be so different from paper drawing.

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i made this

>>386844341
Buy a cintiq you dumbo

>professional illustrator/designer
>okay tumblr following (2000+ followers), meager twitter following (700)
>want to do more cheesecake but worried about it coming back to haunt me later
>want to get more popular but don't want to risk my dayjob as a designer
I'm working on drawing more dudes so I can get away with drawing more ladies but I'm still frustrated with my personal work.

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>>386844683
nah, get one of these and install a drawing program

>>386844005
>>386825552
That's just not true at all. Shadman's flaws aren't his skill, they're his choices.

He gets by without properly structuring shit and he "feels" the drawing without checking. Which is why you see his disproportionate faces and his sloppy line control/thickness. Anything that looks "right" doesn't feel instinctive, but rather that he just got lucky compared to a few of his other etchings. Other artists with strong choices or noticeable quirks in their skill can at least replicate them consistently, but Shad can't even get his faces consistent. Another aspect of his work is that he tries to make 2D figures look or feel gross to some degree. If not visually, then definitely in narrative.

Shad gives self-taught a bad name, because it's either that he hasn't properly studied fundamentals or he just glanced over them with little revisiting and just figures "it just works" since not many people understand the work behind being good at or getting better at drawing. A lot of being self taught is about studying and challenging the rules of your own ability or style, sometimes even adopting things from artists you admire be it techniques or stylish choices. Shad on the other hand hasn't grown much because he doesn't seem to feel the need for it.

Anyone has the potential to better than Shadman, you just have to realize you never stop doing homework to get better as an artist.

>>386824763
No you special snowflake.

>>386844842
>consumer reports rescinded all past and current recommendations
nah

>>386830006
>Is there actually any artist here on /v/?
I used to post a lot of stuff on draw threads long ago. Then I found work on game developing and stoped, mostly because I ran out of time.


>>386830353
>implying that any person on /v/ have any talent

Funny enough, my actual boss saw my work on draw threads and thats why he hire me.

>>386830006
If you want to do it for fun, hang in /v/'s and /co/'s drawthreads

If you want to do it srsbsnss, go to /ic/

>>386845431
>/v/ drawthreads
>fun

>>386845313
Is there an alternative? I'm not good enough to justify spending 800 bucks on a real tablet. I'm just using wacom shit right now.

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>>386834115

>>386845540
If you want to draw on a screen, Monoprice makes a respectable tablet monitor. I think it's just called "tablet monitor" and it costs $400. Mind you, it's for use with a desktop, but it's not half bad.

Surface Pro is a decent product for its price (I don't think the new models come with the pen anymore, though. Ditto with keyboard) but they don't have a very long lifespan (2 years, roughly). I like their form factor and the pen fidelity is serviceable but because it's all one unit, you run into the problems you have with a mac where it's difficult to service.

>>386845682
>blur
>bloom
>flare
cinematic experience/10

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>>386825552
People with talent need to exert effort too. Also
>Shadman
What the holy fuck does he have to do with anything? Why is he the limit? His art could be much better if he didn't have a need to draw his fetishes in the most disgusting way possible.

No but I could have spent those hours learning to code and I would be making mad dosh right now.

Instead I have a shitty degree and a job that makes me want to kill myself every time the clock ticks 7:00 from monday to friday.

>>386840026
my penis points down....

>>386846352
What a dissapointment.

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>>386844097
>cannot do thing because no talent
>can do thing but lazy
>lots of different phrases for the same shitty discussion that keeps happening from time to time, just with different idiots

Kill yourselves.

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>>386839079
If Ilya is just a cheating tracer then what do you call this???

> like drawing a lot
> found a little niche and make comissions
> start charging 4 usd because i know im not good and im starting
> some years later, get better.
> niche is booming
> charge 40 usd for lineart, have a ton of clients
> find real life job
> lose will to draw
> lots of clients asking for more, but i told them that i dont have time

almost 2 yeasr of that. i really need to start drawing again.

>>386846545
No. Go draw, faggot.

>>386824763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UwOdFzPTH4

>>386846975

You fucked up, you're suposed to live off of it,.

>>386844783
Adapt a pseudonym, maybe. Or try not giving a fuck. But that's coming from someone who can draw loods with no stakes in my career.

>>386846975
If I were you, I would drop that job, unless you reallly like it.

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god tier motivations
>wanting to do concept art, comics, vidya or animation

great tier
>porn

ok tier
>illustration

worse than shit tier
>fan art and commissions

>>386844842
Too small, and I've heard they're not that great for drawing.

>>386831121
Loomis

>>386845431
>If you want to do it srsbsnss, go to /ic/
No, get off 4Chan if you want to be serious. /co/ and /v/ are fun, /ic/ is just a shit-flinging bucket of crabs.

>>386846975
Why'd you even get a 9-5?

>>386847154
What is fanart porn comics then?

>>386824763
I play too many video games to know who this is.

>>386847390
You take the lowest tier. So if you want to do a porn comic, you're at great tier instead of god tier, for instance.
>TFW I want to do something from every one of those tiers.

>>386847351
Parents

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>Got really into drawing when I was around 13
>Would always sketch in my notebook
>Started to get somewhat decent
>Class asshole saw my drawings of girls in bikinis
>Laughed at me, and told his friends I was a sick creep
>Stopped drawing since I was too self-conscious and actually believed what he said
I really wish I wasn't so much of a pussy when I was a kid, and just continued to draw. It was something I liked doing, but I let some asshat ruin that for me. I have other passions now, but I sorta want to get drawing again sometime, I'm not looking to be a fucking amazing artist, but at least good enough to make vidya fanart and shit.

>>386824763
If I had spent the 5000 hours in my last MMO working on Art I'd be god by now.

>>386831719
I like it

>>386844842
Those fucking suck. You open up a browser and it heats up with the fan sounding like a hair dryer. Even worse with Photoshop or CSP, though SAI is lightweight enough for it to remain calm. SAI's really what you want to be using anyways.

If you're searching for a tablet, get an Intuos Pro.
I can't even recommended a cintiq, the screens are a bit off on them. Colors are off and the pixel density is weird despite the high res. I believe the screen material makes the pixels seem more apparent.

If you REALLY want some comfy drawing though, get a Samsung Tab A with S Pen and download Medibang Paint.
Screen is a bit small, but if you can get used to it, it will be the best drawing tool you'll ever use. Insanely fucking comfortable, affordable, and convertible.
You can also but Bamboo smart pens to use with it since the S pen is pretty small.

If not the Tab A, they have a newer model with a higher resolution, but it's more expensive at the moment.

iPads can do the job too but they're super expensive and the app choice is piss poor. Apple pencil is retarded too.

But yeah, tab A with S pen for a comfy, convertible drawing experience or Intuos Pro for desktop.

>>386836763

You have issues, furry. Seek help.

>>386847390
porn overrides the fan art. dick won't notice the difference between OC and fan art.

>>386847154
This nigga knows what's up
Used to do fan art and commissions. What a miserable time

Best option was to delete the site and start over because the fan art babies just kept asking me to draw art of their favorite thing

Do NOT do fan art to gather attention to your art. It doesn't end well. Just shill your shit like a mad man and try to get in with other popular artists who will share your shit, otherwise you will suffer in fan art hell

>>386847616
Well that's not a very good reason. Do they know you make money from your freelance work?

>>386848552
First day on the internet, bub?

>>386851146
>kaede bookmark
you're alright
bit dumb for an artist not to know how to save fullsize pictures from pixiv

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>>386851423
Ay I'm not dumb senpai, the full pic is a bit too huge so I just save the small one that's all, it's not like I don't know how to do that or anything. it's always nice too see an anon with patrician taste tho

>>386851146
>master1200
ishiggydiggydoo
Enjoy your ban for posting nsfw

>>386828525
You have no idea how much your post motivated me. I started drawing two days ago and I'm not gonna srop any time soon.

>>386845431
Don't go to /ic/ ever unless it's to redownload all their art books for checking over your fundamentals and learning stuff. Never go to /ic/.

Man sometimes its a little surprising how much our lives is controlled by the desire of pussy, males are capable of enduring all kind of shitty things just to get some pussy, or they endure the boredom of learning tedious new things, just so they can express the female form in better ways with drawings, music, books or movies.

I mean, how tedious is to draw every day, seeing almost no improvement? Its enough to drive anyone to suicide, and yet some guys to did, simply because they want to draw cute girls or their waifu.

People give ships female names simply to make the crew protective of the ship, and it works, just using a cute girl on the cover of a game is enough to guarantee some sales even for ultra shitty games.

And all way, the worship of the female form is the undercurrent beneath it all. Honestly how would the world look if we were not programed from birth to desire the female body that much? Sometimes I wonder how much of our love for cute girls is natural, and how much is just us following our basic animal nature, are we even truly free, or are we just slaves who forgotten we are forever chained to the desire for pussy? Sometimes I think people without sex drives might be happier than us.

>>386853039
faggot

>>386853039
MOst of my active drawing life I spent it drawing buff anime dudes and monsters.

I've been drawing girls recently but that's because my female anatomy is/was total garbage and I am actually drawing to improve now.

>>386847154
But I like doing fanart. Because I'm a fan of things I make art of.

>>386853036
How...How bad are they?

>>386853039
Some great artists in history are rumored to be asexual.
Frederic Chopin for an example.

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>>386853653
I'd like to know this too, it seems like both /a/ and /v/ seems to hate /ic/ very much. Now I'm too scared to even start posting there anymore.