Sonic Mania

Press Garden

puyo puyo boss
mecha sonic
press garden
metallic madness
hydrocity
oil ocean
titanic monarch

knuckles dies

>>386821137
How did mark get a copy?

torrent when?

Mark bailed for real on us now

>>386822457
https://twitter.com/RubyEclipse/status/895896200536141824
>Delay and rework incoming

>s3&k had 24 acts
>mania has 25 (including final boss act which will 100% happen)
>they literally said its comparable to 3&k
>"REEEEEEEE THIS GAME IS WAY SHORTER THAN I EXPECTED WHAT THE FUCK"

>25 acts
>16 old, 9 new
>they said it would be around 40% new and 60% old
>9 is 36% of 25, and 16 is 64% of it, very close to the 40/60 ratio
>even then the 2nd acts of the old zones are almost entirely new
>"REEEEEEE THERES TOO MANY OLD ZONES WAAAHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK"
autism

I don't know why people are complaining about Mania having altered stages. From the looks of it Forces will do the exact same thing, mash stages together and recreate shit and call it new alongside throw old bosses in the mix.

>>386821137
Just filter sonic

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>not even sonic mania saved the franchise
there is no hope left. sonic is officially dead.

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>No Mecha
Just

>>386822542
dlc incoming

>>386822457
you forgot lava reef

Did Mark finish eating yet, I wanna see him beat the game.

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Can't wait for Forces now

>>386822542
Surprise early release incoming?

FUCK YOU NIGGER DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS DICKS

>>386822625
Stream crashed on the last stage, he said he's uploading the ending

>>386822596
At least Metal stole one of his boss attacks from Mecha

>>386822625
He bailed because didn't want to put in any more effort aside from "showing all the levels" (which he didn't even do)

HEY GUYS, NO EARLY RELEASE BUT JUST A REMINDER NOT TO SPOIL PEOPLE. OKAY HAVE FUN GETTING BOMBARDED WITH SPOILERS UNTIL TUESDAY, BYE!

>>386822596

Knuckles might fight mecha. Who knows? We won't know with this fucking guy.

Hell Tails or Knuckles might have unique acts.

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>>386822672
YEET

https://twitter.com/MarkM447/status/895900767604924417

>>386822550
> Sonic is officially dead

It'll be dead until Adventure 3 comes out

>>386822672
>>386822682
One of you better record/download that shit the second it's up, because I imagine it will be devoured by the Sega hounds as soon as they see it.

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MARK BEAT THE GAME WITHOUT US AND IS UPLOADING THE ENDING

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Anyone here still hype or nah?

8 reused zones and 4 new ones... I'm not saying Mania is gonna be shit, but anyone saying that they're not disappointed is a delusional Mania-fag.

>>386821137
Fuck off. Like seriously. If you don't want spoilers don't go to these threads your fucking retard. Everyone is not gonna cater to your desires.

>>386822803
>MARK BEAT THE GAME
I'm surprised he even managed to.

>>386822836
Nope. It's clear this was just a nostalgia-painted turd from neo-Sega yet again

>>386822672
I feel like this is some stupid 8gag meme shit, if he really did beat the boss he would have just streamed it instead of recording it to upload later

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>>386822849
You could at least use a different line

>>386822836
Yeah, definitely. I just wish we can fast forward to the future where Taxman and Stealth get to make a Sonic game with 100% new levels.

>>386822836
Probably not as hype because they brought back my least favorite Zone but maybe they made it not shit?

>>386822860
He didnt beat all of it, he beat some of it!

>>386822836
yea looks fun

>>386822836
I am hype. I know I'll love the game, part of me wishes I would have bailed because some of the big wow moments won't have the same impact when I play (particularly Stardust Speedway and Metal, CD is my favorite game) but all the same I look forward to my CE arriving. I am just worried about other anons, they don't seem to be taking all of the returning zones too well, but they all look great to me. I hope we can all have fun on launch day.

>>386822904
don't think that's the same guy, otherwise he would say that Mania is the blunder of the century

https://vid.me/99ZEI
IT'S UP BOYS!

>>386822849
Or they just got what they expected. They fucking re-did green hill zone for the 60 millionth time. What the fuck did you expect them to do? I only expected retardopolis and mirage saloon as new levels.

>>386822836
Already refunded it

Why is it everyone's expectations literally built a different game than what Sega clearly was saying it was

This might be why Iizuka was baffled at Mania's hype

Reminder that he doesnt have all chaos emeralds so no true final boss yet.

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>>386822836
Shit, I'm still gonna buy it. Now I'll have 1-Mania entirely portable. Sucks that CD and- the pipe dream it is- BTS and ATS aren't

>>386822954
The hell is this

>>386822963
This better be legit

>>386822891
>Neo-Sega
The Neo-Geo is over 20 years old anon.

>>386822849
It just needed one other new zone near the end and people wouldn't be as bitchy. I think its great as is though, hopefully people calm down and see the good.

>>386821137
>Spoilers in a game where these little to no story.
Anon quit being dumb.

>>386822963
DAT FUCKING MUSIC

>>386823005
It's legit mate.

>>386822963
>shitty final boss
>5 second ending animation
what the fuck, bros?

>>386822963
You fuckers better archive this shit before Sega takes it down.

>>386823037
>Spoilers are just story
I want you to watch a full playthrough of every game you're interested in from now on before you go out and play it yourself. Tell me if you still enjoy games as much without some surprising moments in the mix.

>>386823082
Because no chaos emeralds

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>>386822963
>those bits of big arms theme

>>386822963
wow that ending is a lot of fucking nothing, and i got hyped when i saw it was an animated scene too. hopefully the chaos emerood ending has more to it.

GUYS
MUSIC HAS BITS OF BIG ARM IN IT
AAAAAAAAA

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>>386822963
>and ending
>didn't get most of the chaos emeralds

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I WANT THE FUCKING OST SO BAD REEEEEE

Anyone else really disappointed? I don't even feel like buying this anymore. Sega hyped it up so much, but it's just...not all that.

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HAHAHA GET FUCKED MARK

>>386823196
you know it does

>>386823278
What if collecting all the chaos emeralds gives you an extra final boss but the same ending?

>>386822963
Wow that was pretty shit, but isn't there one more zone left?

>>386822963
So when do you fight the last Heavy?

anyone got a recording of Mirage Sky Chase? That music was fucking great

>>386823275
YOU hyped it up for yourself anon. Stop looking for leaks and go to bed.

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if the hyper emeralds aren't in this i'm seriously refunding

>>386822963
>Eggman mech design looks like dog-shit.
>Hard-Boiled Heavies integration looks neat.
>Five second ending cutscene of fucking nothing.
The Chaos emerald ending better redeem this ending, or this game will become one of the biggest disappointments of the year.

>ending has no connection to forces
ha!

>>386823325
In the Super Sonic zone, obviously
Unless Knux fights him as the final boss

>>386823328
the stream was stopped so you can go watch it.

>>386823314
Doubt they would be stupid enough to do that, It would probably be additional part at the end tying into Sonic Forces.

>>386823380
>implying Chaos Emerald ending won't have Sonic transported to Forces

>>386823362
>biggest disappointment of the year
>because it has about 2 zones less than you wanted

>>386823360
Super Sonic > Hyper Sonic

Seizure Sonic is bait for ADHD kids who liked DBZ a little too much.

>>386823278
Anyone else get the feeling there'll be three endings? One without the emeralds, one with all 7, and then one with all 7 AND infinite gem?

>>386823360
what even are hyper emeralds you autist

>>386823380
he didn't have all of the emeralds

>>386823380
>secret ending is a battle against infinite

The final boss looks a lot like a certain scrapped sketch of the Sonic CD final boss.

>>386823196
There was small segments if a heavy boss rush in there!

>>386823419
They are the super emeralds. It's just that he is an autismo

>>386823419
*super
im tired after watching this shitter get 70 game overs today

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>>386822836
i want to see/play the new stages

the remixed stages can go fuck themselves though. like if they were instead in a stand alone game thats literally the just genesis sonics but remixed, then i'd buy that. but putting them in a new game especially after generations is awkward.

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>>386821137
I'm struggling with which system I should buy the game for. Switch or steam. I can't decide. I feel like I'd play it more if it was portable but... but... 4k sprites.

>>386823185
Wow a powerpoint presentation

I don't care if the true ending is amazing, that's just not enough for the basic ending

>have to wait 5 more days for this
come on, it doesn't even look that good. Just do early fucking release

>>386823487
Some of them are cool. Hydrocity Act 2 is LITERALLY just Hydrocity Act 2

>>386823524
have you just never beaten a sonic game without all the emeralds before?

>>386823524
what do you mean? basic endings are always short

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WHERE IS HYDROCITY FOOTAGE

I WANT TO HEAR TEE'S REMIX OF THAT FUCKING SONG

WHERE'S EVERYTHING BEFORE WILD WILD WEST STAGE

Playable Amy when?

>>386823542
Hydrocity Act 2 is perfection though.

>>386823585
>>386823587
CD is the only classic game with animated cutscenes, and the basic ending had just as much to it as the good ending. This is no excuse

>>386823542
Yknow he just completely went the normal route!! Heck act 1 had 3 paths in the first tube but autosmo just did normal route!

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I wish I could just unspoil myself, a lot of this stuff would be hype as fuck if I wasn't watching a stream at 5 fps with a shitty person playing and talking over it. I'm not even disappointed with the game, this is about the scope I was expecting give or take a zone.
I gotta stop being so retarded when mania 2 rolls around

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Who /gonnapirate/? I like what we saw, but not enough to pay

Did we see any zone transitions past Flying Battery?
Isn't that where he got his first game over?
Is this a coincidence?

>>386823705
Heck i bet he missed fuckloads, he didny even notice you can raise and lower the water in hydrocity to use gondala boats!

>>386823668
never. She got a cameo as a robot, that's it. This game was much better in our imaginations

>>386823719
Most people here are gonna pirate it

>>386823408
It's because Sega was hyping up Mania as the savior of the franchise, with an even mix of the old zones and new one's, but it ultimately turned out to be incredibly lopsided in it's originality to newness ratio. Is it so wrong to be disappointed when so little of the core game is new? You might be saying that the old zones have remixed designs, but that only applies to 1 of the 2 acts in the zone, and besides, the zone aesthetic itself is still a reused one. I hope Mania is a learning experience for Whitehead and his team, as I believe that if that fan-oc shill Iizuka gave them free-reign in designing their own acts, a possible Mania 2 could possibly surpass S3&K. But as of now, Mania looks like it could be at the same level as CD in my list of favorite Sonic games, which is up there, but not quite Sonic 2 or 3&K.

>I was actually going to buy a fucking sonic game in the year 2000 and 17
>it's shit

spared me

>>386822745
It already did, it's called Sonic 06

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEboG4LnUBI

>>386823749
I was wanting hydrocity and a firey oil ocean. Only thing I didnt get was a proper japanese ninja level but the shinobo sound fx made up for that!

>>386822547
people are mad because it's sonic, WE ALL KNOW THAT THIS GAME WOULD HAVE STAGES FROM OLD-SCHOOL GAMES, god damn, what the problem of this people?

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do we have a list of all the stages yet?
imo knowing the amount of content we're getting doesn't feel like a spoiler

>>386823705
This. The only suprise for me now is gonna be the true ending and extras AND I had to watch a shitty stream while spoiling almost everything.

>>386823735
a few. They're nothing special.

>>386823606
https://twitter.com/MarkM447/status/895789591545991168
Start at 17:30

>>386823719 I'm considering it at this point, I hate myself for saying it but it's true.

>>386823834
I think if we add on the chaos emeralds, there's one more stage left.

>>386823520
Retard it will look just as good on the Switch screen.

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>>386823820
at least the music is kino

so is the bonus stages just blue sphere?

>>386823762
>I hope Mania is a learning experience for Whitehead and his team

Of course it is, people are retard if they were expecting the perfect sonic game. I'm sure if there's a Mania 2 it will be even better.

>>386823834
13 zones counting the Super Sonic stage, 25 acts total

>>386823834
>Green Hill
>Chemical Plant
>Studiopolis
>Flying Battery
>Press Garden
>Stardust Speedway
>Hydrocity
>Mirage Saloon
>Oil Ocean
>Lava Reef
>Mechanical Madness
>Titanic Monarch

You know what's really disappointing about all this? They had no excuse not to do more. Look at Mirage Saloon, the first act is a Sky Chase replica, yet the second act is a regular act. Why couldn't they do more like that?
>oil ocean turns into metropolis
>hydrocity turns into aquatic ruin
>sudiopolis turns into casino night
>lava reef turns into mystic cave
>press garden turns into icecap
They got so lazy and because of that, we're getting a CD-tier game and not a rival to 3&K

Someone please leak the PC version. I can't wait 4 days.

>>386824002
It's Metallic Madness, not Mechanical. It's the CD stage.

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>>386823520
>4k sprites
>sprites

I bet they'll reveal what the medallions do in tomorrow's stream.

>>386823380
>Space distortion wasn't explained
>Infinite sound effect wasn't explained
>doesn't have all emeralds
It's gonna be real rough for you when we see the true ending anon. Brace yourself.

>>386824038
>CD-tier
Except Mania is way longer and doesn't have shitty level design

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>>386824065
I have a fetish for large pixels. I can't wait to see it on my 34" monitor.

>>386823832
>what the problem of this people?
Fuck foriegn retards ,jesus fuck but I can parse out what you want to convey. It's >what's the problem with this< btw.

I agree though people expect too much.

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who /gonnabuyitcauseitlooksfunandtosupportmania2/ here?

>>386824038
Someone said that Knuckle's Act 1 of Mirage Saloon is a full level and not Sky Chase. Dunno how true this is.

>>386824038
CD is a rival to 3&K because Sonic 3 is half shit zones. CD and Sonic and Knuckles are both top-tier in the same category though, for different reasons.

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Wait... so he fought the gunner, magician, shinobi and the biker. But what happened to the other two? I thought there were six?

>>386824147
It is.

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I missed the stream, have this and the cathedral stage appeared in the game yet?

>>386824129
I am because SEGA said themselves if it doesn't sell then it means gamers don't want 2D sonic and they'd rather have poorly designed 3D sonic with motion blur and crappy framerates

>>386824129 I cannot afford the game. You have one less person on that list.

>>386824038
I mean, oil ocean basically turns into sandopolis and press garden does turn icy in its second act. really, most of the stages have radically different acts, definitely moreso than any other sonic game prior. also the CD stages that are included have greatly improved level design.

>>386824193
Yep, they're the same stage, along with the frozen Sonic concept art

>>386824193
These were the only stages that appeared, possibly minus an extra stage for collecting all the Chaos Emeralds.
>>386824002

I think I would have been a little less disappointed of we had Mystic Cave and Quartz Quadrant instead of Oil Ocean and Metallic Madness.

>>386824179
King Heavy was likely skipped over by the leaker, as his stream's video feed cut before Titanic Monarch act 2 could be seen.

>>386824179
five
only one that went unfought was the red one

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>Only 4 new stages are bumped up, where are the 5 one?
>No real ending, get the chaos emeralds
>Knuckles gonna pick some different paths (we don't know nothing)
>Extras? This guy even TRIED? I don't think so.
>I thing we didn't see everything (talking about Sonic mode on this) and of course, even if we are playing all those videos, when we sit and play, it's gonna be different, anyway.

>>386824193
huh
I think that might be the cathedral stage, which ended up being Press Gardens

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so are we at the shitpost about nothing cause the game is near release stage?

>>386824179
maybe Knuckles will fight the others

>>386824242
We kinda got Quartz Quadrant
As an Act 2 to Lava Reef

>>386822836
I'm still hype, I just wish I wasn't a fucking whore for spoilers, this shit would've been better if I would've saw it myself firsthand

>>386824038
they mixed a bunch of stuff, exactly what are you bitching about

>>386824242
Quartz Quadrant elements are in Lava Reef Act 2 though.

I do agree I would have preferred Mystic Cave to Oil Ocean though but they made Oil Ocean Act 2 pretty cool so I can accept it.

>>386824038
A lot of that would make no sense. You can't keep going from zones on Mobius to zones that are way up on the floating island.

>>386824301
retard

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>>386824202
Member sonic 4

>>386824291
buddy this is a sonic thread
one way or another shitposts are gonna happen

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>>386824002
so in the end we got 4 new zones?

still, wasn't expecting oil ocean and metalic madness.
almost wanted wacky workbench because it was so awful that it deserves a redo

You know your life is sad when you cry to yourself about not being able to afford a 20$ game. My life is fucking pathetic.

>>386824246
It cant be Titanic Monarch. You fight robot eyeball mcgee and then bungie robotnik. Are there three acts?

>>386822457
>mecha sonic


Oil ocean is in ? Really ?

>>386824253
The 5th one is probably the special zone unlocked via getting all the chaos emeralds.

>>386822543
And we are not even seeing if the game has a special secret stage with Super Sonic (which probably will)

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>>386824337
Yep it was disgusting. 3D models/background with a disgusting amount of motion blur you can't disable and poor level design/gameplay flow. It also released in "episodes" which made me want to blow my fucking brains out.

A solid 2/10 maximum. I need sprites if I'm going to have 2D

>>386824389
Dark SOil Ocean

>>386823762
>even mix
>said it would be a 60/40
who lied to you anon

I fucking told you retards that Sakura Synagogue was a fake name

>>386824246
King Heavy is the true final boss

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>>386824327

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>he thinks Infinite isn't the True Final Boss you fight as Super Sonic

>>386824002
What about Sakura Synagouge?

so was it ever explained how Eggman magically learned ZA WARUDO?

>>386824389
yup. Someone on the team likely has a thing for it, because it's universally regarded as one of the most forgetful stages of sonic 2

>>386824385
Final boss was probably a 3rd act.

>>386824449
>tfw you will never die thirty three times in a row on Oil Ocean

>>386822542
>Modern sonic in Mania.
Interesting. I bet it will be apart of the secret ending.

>>386824503
Mating Press Garden

>>386824508
It will probably be explained when either Mark or someone else works to get the true ending.

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Oil Ocean baffles me once again, sure Act 2 looks interesting but at best we just got a really good Tee Lopes remix of it. Metallic Madness I'm iffy on, since I would have preferred Scrap Brain, but the gimmicks are rock solid

The game's pacing kinda takes a hit after Mirage Saloon with those 3 reused levels. I feel bad for the Biker Heavy, he got shafted

>>386824503
Press Garden Act 2 is "Sakura Synagogue."

>>386823719
>20 bucks
>Being this much of a cheapfag

>>386824389
Oil Ocean is so fixed its basically a new level. The only better choice for a 100% overhaul would have been Hill Top.

>>386823762
>It's because Sega was hyping up Mania as the savior of the franchise

No, YOU people were claiming that. all their doing is their annyversary game.

You lot put way too much high of spectations as usual and ended up paying the price.

>>386824038
this is mostly what did happen though

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So I know pretty much nothing about Sonic games at all and don't have any hype for Mania, even though I was planning on getting it. Why's everyone here so disappointed compared to just a week ago?

>>386824390
Yes. I realized that only 3 of 5 new stages are bumped up.

>>386824385
The last Heavy could be the Act 2 boss with the final boss being its own thing
Not necessarily its own Act but just a separate boss, like how Launch Base had 3 different bosses and Death Egg has an Act 2 boss and then 3 phases of Robotnik's giant robot

I have a question, do you think most reviewers will stop before Oil Ocean or will get up to Oil Ocean and then stop?

how mad would you guys be if the important news was another delay, this time to add more stages?

Blunder of the Decade

>>386824617
Only 4/12 stages are new, and 8/12 people here are just shitposters

>>386824617
I think most of us were expecting more new zones, but the new acts for the remakes look cool

>>386824617
I was just about to ask this. These people are probably the same brainlets who think CD has bad level design, so I guess I'm not surprised their logic is failing them this hard.

>>386821137
Get reckt, kid.

>>386824508
The pink stone probably grants wishes or something. The Heavies wanted to be cool, Robotnik wanted Sonic to be far away so he couldn't interfere with his plans

>>386824617
People didnt listen when they said that most of the game would be remixed older stages. I dont mind because its just reused aesthetics and the level designs are new but a lot of people dont care about that

>>386824617
But it's just a straight up rom hack with barely any original content

>>386824515
I remember dying there a lot as a kid by drowning in oil.

I think I might've been a moron as a kid

>>386824653
stop at oil ocean. Mark got 8 game overs in a row to OO's boss. No reviewer will be able to pass the boss

List of Better Romshacks than Sonic Mania:
[Sonic 1]
Sonic 1 Remastered
Sonic the Hedgehog Megamix
Mobius Adventures
Sonic 1 Brother Trouble(Sonic & Manic!)
Sonic - The Lost Land
The S Factor: Sonia and Silver

Character Mods:
Amy Rose in Sonic the Hedgehog
Bunnie Rabbot in Sonic the Hedgehog
Charmy Bee in Sonic the Hedgehog
Doctor Robotnik's Creature Capture
Knuckles the Echidna in Sonic the Hedgehog
Metal Sonic in Sonic the Hedgehog
Mighty the Armadillo in Sonic the Hedgehog
Sally Acorn in Sonic the Hedgehog
Shadow the Hedgehog in Sonic the Hedgehog
Tails in Sonic the Hedgehog
Vector the Crocodile in Sonic the Hedgehog
South Island Adventure(Play as Espio in remixed zones)


[Sonic 2]
Sonic Classic Heroes[SONIC 1 AND 2 INCLUDED!!!](Featuring Sonic,Tails,Knuckles,Espio,Charmy,Vector)
Sonic 2: Return of Shadow(Featuring Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Shadow)
Soniz Zeta Overdrive(Featuring Sonic, Tails, and Bean Dynamite)
Sonic 2: Advanced Edit(adds 3 new levels and various edits)

[Sonic 3]
Sonic 3 Cz(adds playable amy rose among other features)
Sonic 3 and Amy Rose(replaces Sonic with Classic Rosy the Rascal, and is a better option than the above for playing as Amy)

>>386824662
you know they would be unable to do that right now, right?

>>386824662
Collector's Editions are already in stores and being shipped. How are they gonna delay it?

The """""important"""""" news is probably just them going "pls don't spoil sonic mania for other people okay bye"

>>386824617
Its just shitposters im excited.

>>386824662
If we get more original stages I don't mind another delay.

>>386824717
>new graphics
>new music
>new level design

Whats recycled

>>386824662
The game already leaked out mate, people are gonna get pissed if a day before launch, they have to wait longer to play.

>>386824676
I guess it's just the hot new thing to shitpost about, then. I guess I'm still getting the game then, because it'll still all be new to me.

>>386824736
I played all of these and none of them are better than Mania

I doubt you're even a Sonic fan

>>386824776
>disable all download codes until delay ends

>>386824553
The biker has a second boss fight which takes on parts of sonic3s competition mode where you run on seperate paths but throw spikes on each others road!

We saw a glimps of whats in the final bossrush

>>386824628
I doubt it, the final boss video starts with the stage being around 8 minutes, so I doubt that the final boss would have its own act.

>>386824736
admit it, you just listed the first mods you saw in the steam workshop

>>386824685
CD does have bad level design and I'm not disappointed.

>>386824617
I haven't been following all the leaks, but as far as I can gather:
>Only 4 brand new stages
>Some of the remixed stages don't even have different music
>Some of the remixed stages are shitty stages that nobody ever wanted back
>Some of the best candidates to be remixed are missing

>>386824617
The game looks great and is chock full of cameos, but now that we've seen them all there's not much left to be hyped or speculate about.
Also there aren't as many new stages as many people expected even though the ratio isn't all that different than we were told to expect and the game is just as long as we expected.
A little disappointing at worst imo, but not the TORtanic that /v/ is making it out to be.

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>sonybros are so triggered because Mania is better than their Donkey Kong ripoff

>>386822836
still pretty hype
disappointed as fuck about the new to old stage ratio being so absurdly skewed

a lot of things are totally new even in the old stages but that doesn't actually make it better

>>386824736
I've played most of those, the level design in like every one but megamix is total dog shit. S Factor? Are you shitting me?

If you dont care about level design i dont give a fuck about your opinion.

>>386824845
It doesn't, it has different physics-centric level design. The levels are giant playgrounds. Try not to be so offended by levels that aren't purely horizontal.

>>386824836
>Not necessarily with its own Act
Learn how to read please

>People who watched the stream wishing they weren't spoiled now

I mean, you only have yourselves to blame. Should have fapped instead.

>>386824870
Shitposters just really want a new TORtanic so badly, it's disgusting how they live off of negatively like it's a life source

We're in an age of mediocrity, not critical failure. It's not likely we'll ever get Sonic 06s anymore, so standards are higher than ever

>>386824662
at this point, it'd need to be free DLC if they did that

>>386824871
Donkey Kong is a ripoff of Sonic so of course their derivative game is trash

>>386824727
I think you're overestimating reviewer ability. So far we've seen people who couldn't figure out the loop-de-loops in GHZ.

>>386824871
The fuck are you even talking about? Also this game is on the ps4 as well faggot

>>386824948
I did both and I'm still gonna buy it

>>386824854
I'm pretty sad with all the shitposting if that's how you summarize this and the previous threads.

>>386824917
No offense is taken by their shit design. The levels aren't fun and are a complete eyesore. I get that they are trying to achieve a different design goal. I appreciate it even. But we have S3&K as an example of Sonic trying and succeeding at what CD did. Sadly CD is not an example. Good college effort but it missed the mark. Miserably.

At least most of Mania's bosses are as good as the ones featured in Eggman Hates Furries.

>>386824854
Are people actually mad at the returning stages selection? Out of all the things, I think that's what Mania actually got almost perfectly. They picked pretty much all of the stages from each game everyone would have wanted plus a few extras for double dips.

The selection also has way more variety than Generations' zones. People complaining are probably just "muh Ice Cap" fags even though we've told them a million times that Ice Cap is impossible to put in due to the legal issues surrounding the music.

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I just figured something out:

>Sonic 1: 1 zone
>Sonic 2 and CD: 2 zones
>Sonic 3 & Knuckles: 3 Zones
>Mania: 4 zones

2 and CD were both meant to be "Sonic 2"

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>>386824736
> Bunnie Rabbot and Vector the Crocodile are "Better" than Mania

> Lists mostly romhacks with 1 or 2 unique levels and literally nothing else, maybe the rest of the source game unedited

> Didn't even include Sonic 3 Complete

You didn't really try to come up with anything original but you have at least some (though far from perfect) knowledge of decent earns you an extra half a point. Your final score is 5.5/10. Please see me after class.

>>386824917
Sonic isnt nearly as good at carrying momentum vertically as he is horizontally. That's why CD's level design sucks, there's an over reliance on stationary jumps and springs.

>>386824945
Shit, my bad. I still hope that the heavies have something to do with the Chaos Emerald boss.

>>386824917
>It doesn't, it has different physics-centric level design.
Yeah and then 15 arbitrarily placed things to crash into and lose all of your speed
It wouldn't be that bad if you didn't have to build and maintain speed for a long ass time in order to time travel, and you only get one chance per signpost.

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>>386824871
What the hell kinda bait even IS THIS?

>>386825002
ps4? what is that?

>>386825002
Sonybros get hard over exclusives because they know other people can't play them. If they know a game is multiplat, it's already bad because others can enjoy them.

>>386825002
>shit d-pad

>>386824124
I mean, I know it's sad because it's a 2D sonic game we all wanted but, people screaming about this old stages on it it's just a non-sense thing. Even when they announced this game they said "Old and new stages on it, thank you" and EVERYBODY was like "OMG IMAGINE FLYING BATTERY FUCK YEAH" "OMG HYDROCITY PLEASEEEE" "OMG MABLE GARDEN!!!"

I think the Mania devs were too tame with the game and final boss when it easily could have been more grandiose than 3k

>>386824736
>Most of them just character mods without any new levels

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>>386823450
That would actually be pretty kino.
>classic Sonic running along
>lightning strike
>16-bit version of Infinites theme starts playing as he prepares to fight

>>386825083
But what is this about this dk rip off you are talking about?

>>386825046
deepest lore

>People trying to spin this on console wars
>Also CD fighting is back

God fucking damn it, you guys cycle more than the Sonic Cycle shitposters come up with. I'm going to bed

>>386825101
>final boss

Nobody has seen the actual final boss yet.

>>386825128
>you kill Infinite
>Sonic Forces is retconned
>The game ceases to exist, everyone forgets it ever did

>>386825139
crash bandicoot

>>386825013
I did lead with "I haven't been following all the leaks"

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>/v/ already turning their backs on Mania the moment they got spoiled. Fuck having to actually play a Sonic game that feels good.

I was fucking calling this'd happen. You fuckers can't be content with anything unless it gives you free blowjobs or something.

>>386825139
I don't know what the fuck that guy was talking about. That bait was all over the place.

>>386825046
But the Super Sonic Boss fight. That would bring Mania's up to 5 zones...

>>386825187
Shit you're right. My bad.

>>386825230
Not unless it's a fight that travels through all previous zones.

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>>386824980
>Donkey Kong is a ripoff of Sonic

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>>386825202
>Crash Bandicoot is a DK rip-off
In what fucking universe?

>>386825030
In your opinion, but it's a good think your opinion isn't law. Most of the levels are a blast and it's the best-looking classic Sonic game with the best soundtrack to boot. In terms of pure speedy platforming and concise gameplay? You're right, 3&K takes the cake, and I love both for their different approaches and more than that I love that the Mania team decided to take the best from both worlds.

>>386825058
I think Collision Chaos is a good example of a vertical stage done right and Quartz Quadrant is the definitive horizontal stage in CD. But mostly I love Collision Chaos, there's nothing like peeling out off of a ramp and skidding across all of the bumpers through the air or playing around in those "U" shaped trenches along the bottom.

>>386825208
>The same people who tried to report a streamer for having the gall of playing a game because a store broke the street date

So... Amy isn't in the game huh?

>>386825052
Sonic 3 complete is nothing more than bugfixes and nitpicky edits.

>>386824515
wat. It is an awesome stage with great music.

>>386825208
/v/ would hate the blowjobs too.

If from a girl: because it wasn't a trap.
If from a trap: because it wasn't a guy, because /v/ is closet gay.
If from a guy: see trap.

>>386825313
NEVER
EVER

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>>386825297
>Most of the levels are a blast and it's the best-looking classic Sonic game with the best soundtrack to boot.

>>386824249
There is definitely going to be a secret boss once you get all Chaos Emeralds. A doomsday-like zone for Sonic Mania.

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>>386825128
>kino

>>386825313
we don't actually know
but probably not

>>386824515
That's not Hill Top.

>>386825062
>Yeah and then 15 arbitrarily placed things to crash into and lose all of your speed
Everything in CD is reactable/manageable though. Also you just gotta be on the lookout for the areas of the levels specially crafted to let you time travel without a hitch anon, they're all over the place

>>386824038
lava reef act 2 is basically quartz quadrant without an open design

>They said there are 5 new stages, only 3 was leaked

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>>386825197
>infinite is an unwinnable boss battle
>after lasting a certain amount of time you're able to escape
>a chase sequence begins, eventually leading you to a portal to another dimension
>Preorder Sonic Forces Today

>>386825046
>>386825230
>this would bring mania up to 5
>no 4

SONIC 4 BTFO AGAIN

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Haven't watched the leak after hydrocity. Oil Ocean and Metalic Madness better by arranged really hard because those are my 2nd and 3rd least favorite zones in classic.

This game is horseshit, there are far better fan games in existence.

>>386822963

Ouch, that kills my hype for the final zone. Still, Mania looks great. Can't wait to play Oil Ocean Act 2.

>>386825313
No why would she be in it?

>>386825303
I just wanted to report him because he is a filthy 8.chan nigger

>>386825421
Source

>>386825337
Who would deny a blowjob period. You don't have to look at the person so who cares what genitals they have, they literally have your dick in their mouth. As long as they are disease free I'm down to blow a wad in their maw

>>386825354
You hate CD, that's okay as long as you realize your opinion on it isn't the objective end-all fact regarding CD.

>>386824515

I loved oil ocean and hill top!

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>>386825289
>Jungle
>Mangos instead of bananas
>Boxes instead of Barrels
>Marsupials and other animals instead of monkeys, gorillas and Orangutans
>two hits and you die
>same cycle-based gameplay

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>good soundtrack
>same amount of levels they said there'd be

>People ITT still think Mania will still have more entertainment for you than Forces

Awesome game, but trust me you're all waiting for the Goat title, Mania 2.

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>people likes 2d sonic

Holy shit why aren't mods baning summerfags?

>>386825431
Oil Ocean Act 2 is a huge departure and Metalic Madness is so different from the CD version it might was well be original.

>>386825491
>no ice cap

>>386825509
>3D Sonic
>providing any entertainment at all

The Forces footage looks bland as fuck. It's just "automatic running simulator with occasional homing attack"

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>>386825373
>trump

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>>386825465
You can stop. I've never stated how I felt any more strongly than you have. You say its great. I say its garbage and laugh. We are at an impasse.

>>386825521
This
so much fucking this

>>386825521
>implying newfags/summerfags would prefer 2D over 3D

>>386825542
>legal issues

>>386825289
>all levels take place on a tropical island
>breaks crates instead of barrels for powerups
>spins instead of rolls to attack
>heavy emphasis on precision platforming
>DKC1&2 were the biggest games when Crash's development would be taking place

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>eggman's battle suit cracks
>he starts flailing like a baby

>>386825313
There's an Amy reference in the game, but Amy herself is not in the game.

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>>386825521
>Holy shit why aren't mods baning summerfags?
>baning summerfags
>baning

>>386825454

She is from CD, I thought she would make an appearance.

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There's always this to look forward to... man I'm really disappointed though. None of the stages I wanted got in.

>>386825462
/v/ would if they are so quick to drop a game because a dumb leaker with the motion skills of IGN played it.

>Physics seem on par with classic
>Great remixes
>New zones while few are all winners
>Fucking Puyo Puyo
>Hard Boiled Heavies all look neat
>That Metal Sonic
>That reverse battle against scuba-botnik
>That opening animation.
>PHYSICS SEEM ON PAR WITH CLASSICS

If the game bended over and gave them all a blowjob they'd still find a way to complain..

>>386825549
I don't want people who don't like CD to suddenly like it, just to understand why someone might. That's why I felt the need to clear up misgivings about the level design and attempt to explain that it's not bad, just different. It's not for everybody and clearly not for you but CD does get love for a reason.

>>386825521
>Holy shit why aren't mods ___?
are you a summerfag trying to fit in anon?

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>>386825629
CD is not cannon
The opening just mentions 1 2 3 K and M as a timeline

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>>386822542
>TWITTER KID ACTUALLY BELIEVES MY PIC RELATED FAKE LEAK
AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHAH

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The final boss is based on this sketch from Sonic CD.

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>>386825474
>No second partner
>3D, lush organic envoirments
>Gems, Crystals, etc
>More moves
>More gimmicks
>Based more in Australia and not Africa

Literally the only remotely DK-thing Crash has is the map in the first game. Everything else isn't exclusive to DK.

>>386825576
>>386825696
don't take the bait

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>>386825712
PIC RELATED, HERE'S THE SPRITE

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>>386825548
>>386825128

Get the fuck >>>/out/ of here with your hipster bullshit lingo

>>386825724
Huh. That's pretty neat.

>>386825313
>Sonic the Hedgehog Megamix
She is as a doll

>>386825706


And yet there are two cd stages in mania

>>386825712
>>386825763
autism: the post(s)

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>>386825521

>>386825763
wow anon didn't know you got the game early too

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>>386823520
>both versions probably look and play exactly the same
>one of them can be played on your big screen tv or played outside on the go
>the other can be pirated in case someone ironically makes a mod for the romhack

The choice seems pretty obvious.

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>386825764
No (You) for you.

>>386821137
just pirate that shit and buy when you have the money nigga

Oh I understand now, people are angry because it's those zones who everyone don't like it too much... I'm looking at you Oil Ocean...

>>386823520
Both so we can get a sequel

>>386825809
>make cd not canon
>take his stages to make them canon

are you stupid?

>>386824954
>It's not likely we'll ever get Sonic 06s anymore
Mass Effect: Andromeda was the new TORtanic. Sonic mania looks fine as it is though.

>>386824736
>any of those better than Mania
I'm offended by this idea and I worked on two of those projects

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>tfw your only disappointment is that stardust speedway is past only
can't wait to play this shit

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>>386825860
Fair enough. I was leaning towards switch anyway to build up a good library for on-the-go downtime anyway.

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stage gimmick anons sort of btfo because of metallic madness

>>386825908
i mean fuck oil ocean but damn did they fucking make it look so much better in this game and i would know i watched that fat fuck die 13 times on it

>>386825969
Act 2 is present and things get bad future real quick at the boss fight

>>386826000
So is someone gonna update this?

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>>386825593
>All levels take place on an island
>Breaks crates instead of monitors for power ups
>Spins instead of rolls to attack
>heavy emphasis on platforming
>Anthropomorphic animal
>Bad guy is a scientist
>Collect gem things
>Partner is smart
>Sonic's ass game
HOLY SHIT, CRASH IS A SONIC RIPOFF!!!!!

>>386825737
>No second partner
Coco
>3D, lush organic envoirments
All of DKC's assets were rendered in 3d, also organic environments
>Gems, Crystals, etc
Coins, KONG letters, etc
>More moves
?
>More gimmicks
animal pals, blast barrels, red light green light levels, minecart stages
>Based more in Australia and not Africa
both are undisclosed tropical islands

>>386826030
There is too much footage to go through and not many recordings.
If we ever get an update it'll be like a week or more after the game is out.

>>386826005
LOL Ikr... ik

>>386826030
There isn't really any point now. Maybe a reverse image that shows how each zone's mechanics got into Mania would be cool tho