What game has the best M1911?

>>386453858
MGS3

>meme1911

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>>386453858
New Vegas. The game even touches upon its real-life history if you ask Joshua Graham about it, although (presumably for legal reasons), they don't name the gun or its creator, John Browning.

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>>386453858
Beretta m9 is better

>>386454375
>tfw no dual-wielding mod

>>386453858
I can tell you the absolute worst is Call of Duty Waw, where you hold it in one hand and it sounds like a clicker.

>>386455372
>you hold it in one hand
That's how you were supposed to use it back then, that's literally the stance the military was teaching. If you see somebody using a handgun two-handed in a WW1 or WW2 game, that's most likely an anachronism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_technique_(shooting)

>>386453858
Insurgency

The .45 was already obsolete in the mid-80s with the rising popularity of the 10mm. The only people holding on to that outdated cartridge are fudds and vidya obsessed nogunz whose favorite heroes weapon of choice was a fuddyfive.

Not the best but the KF2 1911 is pretty good.

it feels good to shoot on Killing Floor 2, but it's just an okay weapon

>>386454738
You can keep your Baretta bights. Have you ever shot one and got pinched by it? Fucking hurts

>>386454738
why is the clipazine backwards?

>>386456067
What made .45 obsolete were wonder-nines, not 10mm.
>vidya obsessed nogunz
guess where you are, faggot

>>386456067
>muh 10mm
>>>/k/

Far cry 3 has best .45, can play 99% of the game with it no problem.

>>386454158
"EVERYTHING HERE IS CUSTOM MADE. WHERE'D YA FIND THIS?"

>>386456185
Noguns here, the what?

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>>386456067

>>386454738
CZ-75 and all of its contemporaries are superior

special mention to the Browning HP

>>386456412
The bullet queue

>>386456412
the thing that holds the bang bang shooty food

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>>386456478
>bullet queue

>>386456412
The gun juice tank

>>386456412
You know, the little apartment for all the little boomies

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>>386453858
Resident Evil 4.

>>386456557
>>386456478
>>386456557
>>386456652
>>386456690
The magazine?
Isn't it the correct way?
Also Kek

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>>386453858
L4D had my favourite. Made avoiding any of the more useful weapons a pleasure. The sound, the animations, all were punchy and agile. How they managed to fuck up the pistols in L4D2 so badly is beyond me, but mods fix that.

>>386456718
But the re4 .45 is significantly worse than the revolver.

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>take shotgun primary
>1911 secondary
>be unstoppable killing machine at any range

>>386456718

>RE4
>Worst magnum in the game
>Doing it right

>>386456802
it's still significantly better weapon than most others, and especially a rare case of 1911 being anywhat useful.

>>386453858
Call of Duty 1-2

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New Vegas: Honest Hearts

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>>386456843

>BC2
>Shotgun slug sniping

I wanna go back, /v/

>>386456475
good taste, I shoot my gf's CZ75 all the time

I think I very, very marginally prefer my Sig though, mostly because of the trigger

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The greatest hand gun ever made.

>>386456995
aggressive recon with the Gol sniper magnum and sensor ball was GOAT

What game has the protagonist wield an M1911 as his main gun? he's allowed to use other guns but the M1911 needs to be the one used mainly, like the Beretta in the Max Payne games

>>386456457
>scientific evidence
>what is ballistic gel
>what are wound vectors
>what is muzzle velocity

>>386457021
i own and shoot a few guns, but ive never owned a pistol, and i was thinking about getting a CZ something for my first, probably a p09 cause its inexpensive fullframe 9mm and im tall enough 2 conceal

bad idea?

>>386457156
Big boss

>>386457087
That's not a luger

>>386457165
>>what is ballistic gel
a structure that is remarkably different from actual human body
>>what is muzzle velocity
a number that isn't everything

there's a reason your snowflake caliber was rejected by FBI

S.T.A.L.K.E.R. STCoP mod, and Far Cry 3. Fucking fantastic feeling shooting that thing

>>386457248
Yeah same reason any agency would reject any magnum caliber, most agents can't shoot it accurately in rapid succession.

>>386454158
I'd agree if it weren't for the fucking godawful decision to make Square the fire button, and to have it be sensitive at that

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>>386457156
MGS3.

>>386457437
>any agency would reject any magnum caliber
Only pistol calibers.

>>386457184
don't own a P09, but I've shot one before and wouldn't hesitate to recommend.

P01 is what my gf has and it's pure sex ergonomically plus a little bit smaller.

That being said, concealing a full size handgun can be a pain in the ass unless it's winter and you're wearing a coat.

What I'd recommend is going to your biggest LGS and dry firing a fingerfucking a few handguns until you find what feels right

>7+1
>in 2017

lololololoolloloollololololoollolololo

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>>386457156
Agent 47

>>386457547
>I'd agree if it weren't for the fucking godawful decision to make Square the fire button
Lemme guess, you'd prefer it to be in one of the """triggers""" ?

>>386457437
Follow-up shots are important, yeah.

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>>386457087
That's not a colt single action army revolver

>>386457623
>>386457562
>>386457204
Why is the M1911 so used in stealth videogames where using it is discouraged? Why even put it in?

>>386456937

>call of duty 2
>throwing up.jpg

>>386453858
Can any gun autists tell me which gun I always see in anime that has the pentagram on the grip? I know it's a real gun but I can't remember the brand name.

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>>386457727
Because its tight as fuck my dude. Its like a 3rd cock.

>>386457727
Silverballers are suppressed, so they're OK to use in Hitman unless you really want to use fiber wire.

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>>386457087
>im-fucking-plying it isn't the colt SAA

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>>386457727
>Why is one of if not the most famous handgun of all time used in pop culture when historically available?

>>386457775
Makarov?

>>386457727
MGS3 doesn't discourage it. It allows for alternatives.

>>386457715
>Says colt Single Action army is the best gun ever made
>Wields Mateba's in MGSV for some reason

Why was this never touched on?

>>386457727
Because .45ACP is sub-sonic by default, the M1911 is still widely available and even in limited service use, and the stock 7-round mag works as a fine auto-balancer that stops players from spamming bullets at enemies' direction.

>>386457775
That would be infinitly more easy if you named the anime

>>386457674
And if the nine didn't exist they'd be using .380.

>>386457895
No, the Makarov is the one with the penis grip.

>>386454375
The M1911 was a Colt production. The 9mm pistol in the game is a Browning Hi-Power

>>386457825
>shoot dude from afar with silenced gun
>guard finds them before you can and ruins your Silent Assassin rating
fiber wire is better and more encouraged

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>>386456151
>bights

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Devil May Cry of course

>>386457973
.380 is literally 9x17mm.

9x19 Luger just ended up being the one 9mm design most countries adopted after WW1, and then became the western & NATO standard after WW2.

>>386458016
John Browning DESIGNED both 1911 and Hi-Power, and fucktons of other guns.

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>>386454375
Why does Graham never stop cleaning his 1911s?

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>>386457990
Tokarev?

>>386458016
Yeah but he's talking about .45 added by Honest Hearts not the 9mm in the base game.

>>386457595
daily carrying was one of the drawbacks i was thinking of, but i usually have a bag because i have to bike to work/everywhere and its the perfect size for a pistol. that and i want somrthing comfy/fun to shoot and the only compacts were in .380 and .40, thoroughly uncomfy guns

tfw only 20 so i cant molest any pistols yet ;_;

>>386458024
Depends on situation. You can always cap them up close without doing the fiber wire animation, though you can skip that too.

>>386458125
there were a LOT of 1911s

>>386457623
47's iconic guns are his Silverballers, which are based on the AMT hardballer.

Why 1911s so sexy?

>>386457932
it literally makes no sense considering how much better at the SAA ocelot probably is at that point

>>386458121
>most countries adopted after WW1
Like who? It became a trend after WW2 with HP.

>>386458121
.380 is quite a bit weaker, I think that's what he was talking about. 9mm Para is a sweet spot, really.

>John Browning DESIGNED ... Hi-Power
He started the design, but it was finished by another gunsmith.

>>386458246
Also the facts that, if I remember right Mateba 6's weren't even out until the mid 90s. Kojima probably just put them in because they look neat.

>>386458016
John Browning worked for Colt when he designed the M1911 (the .45 auto pistol of Honest Hearts). He later jumped ship to FN and co-designed the Browning Hi-Power (he died before the design was finalized).

>>386458241
>AMT hardballer
...which is an all-stainless steel 1911.

>tfw pricing out a 1911

Why are they so fucking expensive????

>>386458371
There is no true 1911 but the originals made by Colt, everything else is a clone.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBQL4yoL7Gk

>>386458493
It's the same mechanism, it's even externally the same. Stop being anal.

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MGS4

>>386458393
Overpriced shit for collectors and fudds.

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>>386458314
kojima never cared about historic continuity anyway

besides, he's right, mateba revolvers are pure sex

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>>386456219
>What made .45 obsolete were wonder-nines, not 10mm.
And now, after 30 years, it is being shown more and more that the wonder-nines aren't so wonderful at penetration as originally thought, so the extra rounds turn out to be necessary just to stop a threat. And so the .45 has been making come back. Besides, .45 now has more choices in power factor than any other round.

>>386453858
Sniper Ghost Warrior 3.

>>386455634
Okay, you don't know what you are talking about, and I'm not gonna berate you too much, but here's how it really is.
Using pistols two handed is a technique that predates even the Weaver stance.
What you are referring to is point shooting.
You weren't "supposed to" hold the pistol one handed.

>>386458505
Stupidly expensive and over-penetrating. It's like recommending the BRNO7.5.

https://youtu.be/paxk_LPmdMI

>>386458538
I bet that's how you defend your love of traps you degenerate faggot

>>386458654
>aren't so wonderful at penetration as originally thought
>civilian market

>>386456124
>>386456132
The Killing Floor 2 one is only good because of the passive animations that occur when you press the reload button when it's at full capacity, but in gameplay it feels like that fucking dumb scene in Last Man Standing.

>>386458167
conventional wisdom dictates that you avoid carrying a gun in a purse or bag but ultimately that's your call.

Anyway, If you're looking for something more compact but still comfy I'd look at single stack 9s. I myself am thinking about a CZ 2075 rami as my next purchase for daily carry

>>386453858
RE7

Remember kids, if you own a glock, youll suck a cock.

>>386454738
If by better you mean the slide breaks in half after 2000 rounds because a massive piece of structural integrity is milled away from it. Then sure.

>>386458654
>wonder-nines aren't so wonderful at penetration
Penetration? So you think a fatter, slower round will "penetrate" better?

>>386458681
>Using pistols two handed is a technique that predates even the Weaver stance.
It wasn't commonplace and it wasn't preferred military technique.

>Uzi
>Galil
Why does Israel make two of the most reliable guns on the market and remain relatively cheap?
Makes no sense.

>>386453858
MGS3/4

>>386458167
oh and gun stores will still let you fingerfuck their stuff if you're under 21, you just need an ID for a purchase

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>>386458681
>You weren't "supposed to" hold the pistol one handed.

>>386458694
Jeez, pasted the wrong link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZDrgoRprVo

I just bought a GSG 1911 chambered for 22lr, how gay am I?

>>386458846
i have a little pouch in the back close to my lower back that it would fit deep enough in there to be concealed but i could still pull it out like normal lower back carry, is that still sub-optimal?

and ill check that out, thanks!

>>386458926
>Israel
really staring to get my noggin joggin here

>>386457021
>my gf's CZ75
stop

>>386457969
It's been in literally every anime that has real world guns in it.

This belongs to you, Sir.

>>386458941
the last place i tried that at wouldnt let me so i figured it was law :/

>>386458926
The better question is why Israel are so good and making guns in general.

Aside from the Deagle, everything they make is God-tier.

>>386459127
And you still couldn't provide an example.

>>386459203
Deagle is very good at what it does.

Tavor handles dirt really badly.

>muh guns

I want america to leave

>>386458907
Cheap, easy to use, reliable and does what it's supposed to be doing well.

Aside from being boring as fuck, hating Glock is meme and is the gun to get if you're new to firearms.

>>386459492
Tell me where you live so I can tell you why your country is shit.

>>386459349
>deagle is very good at what it does

Be the main movie/game "big hueg pistol"?

>>386459203
Probably because they're one of the most Militant nations on earth, and they've had access to some of the best guns around from allies as well to get an idea as to how to make a good one.

OKAY so I did a quick google and here's what I've got:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTJDq9KWyB8

I've skimmed the video (will watch later) but they do discuss both one-handed and two-handed firing techniques. They show two-handed as teacupping, though. Anyway, it's not unrealistic to have a soldier using a 1911 one-handed in a WW2 game, though having him using it two-handed isn't anachronistic either.

>>386459642
Be a sporting/target/recreation/hunting handgun. That and yeah, it has killer aesthetics. It's not a good combat weapon but it wasn't designed to.

>>386459085
>>386459180
Ah that's probably fine then, just be very mindful of it when you take it off

That's too bad, it might be the law in your state or they might just have been dicks

>>386459492
>muh chocolates and strudels leatherhosen yaa
Germany everyone

>>386457165
>scientific evidence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXwPtP-KDNk
http://www.gunthorp.com/Terminal%20Ballistics%20as%20viewed%20in%20a%20morgue.htm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTTDgZZZFa0
Showing that when not used in mediums that have rapid changes in density, like the human body, the 9mm performs poorly.
>what is ballistic gel
A bad method of testing that allows people to only approximate a guess as to how a projectile will perform. A consistent density will affect projectile path and penetration far differently than rapidly changing densities and fluidities.

Even .380s regularly perform as well as significantly more powerful rounds in ballistic gel.

>what are wound vectors
Pistol rounds do all their damage by the tissue they actually hit. Temporary wound cavity is meaningless, and has no physiological effect. Any round going under 2,000fps will only do damage by the tissue it directly impacts. In that case bigger is better.

>what is muzzle velocity
Not going to make up for a round that is too late if the round can't hit some significant milestones. .357mag does so well because it breaks 1300fps on lighter rounds, and can still get above 1200fps with heavy rounds that 9x19 can barely push to 1000fps. Also, lighter rounds lose energy much faster, so they might have amazing initial penetration, but they don't retain enough inertia to keep it (it's one of the reasons why .357 appears to do no better than a .40, .45+p or 10mm when doing barrier penetration tests).

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>>386459492
Is germany mad?

>>386459727
to be fair to them, it was a pawnshop on the edge of the ghetto, so maybe they didnt want young jamal stealing their glock .40 problem solvers

>>386459638
Canada

>>386459846
>germany invents tons of groundbreaking weapons in ww2
>gets cucked by the left after
>invents terrible things and bans violence so their child like populace is protected

Japan got nuked twice and they didn't fall that bad.

>>386459990
I didn't know they had Wifi at Tim Horton's.

>>386458914
>I'd rather my 1911 jam all the time so it can't even get close to that number
ok

>>386458681
>You weren't "supposed to" hold the pistol one handed.
except that every major military taught soldiers to fire a pistol one handed
the side arm has always been a defensive weapon, and when firing defensively, you want to present the smallest target for return fire.

A two handed pistol grip was only adopted after the widespread adoption of ceramic armor, where survivability increased while presenting your plate to the shooter instead of your side.

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>>386460010
They've made good guns past WWII. Also a man with a Car Dealership made the Magnum Opus of the Automotive world.

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>>386459492

>>386459770
>http://www.gunthorp.com/Terminal%20Ballistics%20as%20viewed%20in%20a%20morgue.htm
Interesting link.

>>386459846
Are you really complaining that an experimental firearm designed to test a revolutionary concept isn't extremely simple?

>>386459638
Norway.

>>386456067
This man speaks the truth. This generation raised on call of duty has a lot of unlearning to do.

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Revolvers are the best.

>>386460136
See here: >>386459718
Some two-handed techniques were taught.

>>386458279
>Like who?
Finns, Swedes, Germans...
Bunch of Nordic and eastern European countries. The post-WW2 times just increased its popularity, thanks to the SMG breakthrough and "Wonder Nine" handguns.

>>386460230
Maybe, but did you have to post the ugliest one you could find?

>>386460230
If you're gay, maybe.

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>>386459990
Here's the problem.

>>386458314
MGSV has all franken-guns, meaning no Matebas or 1911s or anything.

>>386460230
Too much fashion, not enough function

>>386460191
>Are you really complaining that an experimental firearm designed to test a revolutionary concept isn't extremely simple?

No I'm shit posting that an experimental firearm designed to test a revolutionary concept isn't extremely simple. I love the G11,
but I like shit posting about it too from time to time too. Don't take it so hard.

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>>386458610
>mateba

>>386460401
Yeah but it's obvious where the primary influence comes from. But sure, if you want to be pedantic, it doesn't have Mateba's.

>>386460102
maybe quit being a limp-wristed sausage smoker?

>>386459770
Well yeah, of course shot placement is always key. The caliber and velocity of a pistol round don't make much of a difference as long as you hit something vital or break bone. A .22 in the heart kills you just as much as a .44 mag. It's just that weaker calibers can get deflected by some tissue/bone under certain circumstances which effects can be minimized by choosing a bigger or at least and faster moving bullet.

>>386460319
>Finns, Swedes, Germans...
>Bunch of Nordic and eastern European countries
>most countries

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>>386454375
>tfw local range says they dont carry any hi-powers because its a dinosaur gun
>carries 3 different 1911s

>>386457648
obviously any ranged or projectile weapon should be there

>>386460483
>>386453858
>>386457932
this is officially a wheelgun thread now, magfags leave or assimilate

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>>386456995
>tfw forgot old ea password
>pajeet customer service cant/wont reset it
>cant buy a new copy on steam

>>386460274
it should be stated that the video in question makes note that the two handed grip is better for long range shooting, which nobody was doing with a handgun since only officers were issued handguns and everybody was issued a rifle.

>>386460665
Most countries that matter, that is.
Everyone else followed soon after.

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>>386456995
>mfw I sniped enemies from the other side of the map with my shotgun while they were parachuting into spawn at the start of the game

>>386458314
i never got why he got rid of all the guns from the previous games
i get that the diamond dogs are making their own guns, but msf did that in peace walker and they were all weird and shit

>>386454375
>(presumably for legal reasons)

Bullshit. I am sick of hearing this bullshit. Why is this spreading around so much? For one, that would be historical information, but I have found absolutely no evidence about this "gun licensing" crap everyone is spouting as an excuse for fake guns these days. I have found nothing. There have been like special deals for advertisement, but I have found no court case, no cease and desist, absolutely no concrete evidence this is anything real or enforced, and I really wish people would stop spreading it.

>>386460834

Fucking EA pajeets. My brother had his EA account hacked by russians. They wouldn't let him reset his information because he couldn't provide enough information, despite sending them his ID and all his original email/etc. Literally had his account stolen and no shits were given.

>>386460938
>Finland
>Sweden
>countries that matter

>>386460193

Kuksuger

>>386457962
>any gun
>subsonic

>>386460934
True. As I said, I haven't watched the full video yet. I intend to, though, so I can give an educated opinion on historical military handgun shooting techniques!

>>386461293
are you stupid or just pretending

>>386461203
You read that right, matey.

>>386461293
yes son, .45 ACP rounds are sub-sonic by default, and it's not the only sub-sonic ammo around either.

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>>386461293

>>386461106
M1911 a registered trademark and appearances copyrighted..
It's for the same reason why games don't call cars by their proper names unless they licenses their names and appearances.

>>386461440
Cлaвa Укaинe! Гepoям cлaвa!

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>>386458541
Came to post this, absolutely the truth. It's the same as MGS3's version but with more detail, better controls, and better feeling.

So many games miss its weight and really strong feel, that's why it's so awful in the CoD games. And while I love it in L4D and it fueled my love of them, they're way too small in first person.

>>386458920
Anon, don't make statements like "it wasn't common" or "it wasn't preferred military technique" when:
1. You never lived in that time.
2. You have never served.
3. You have never fired a gun before in your life.

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>>386461458
>M1911 a registered trademark and appearances copyrighted..
No. This shit was just recently courted:

Military designations (M16, STG-90, M9 ...) are do not trademarks or copyrighted. You cannot copyright appearances and demand compensation for fictional representations, unless the EXACT looks are somehow very integral to your trademarked design.
There are numerous manufacturers and models for 1911 handguns, dozens of AR15 rifles by different makers... etc.

IF you called it a "Colt 1911", you could get into minor problems - but even then it'd easily fall into the fair use category, even more so if it'd be used in a fictional yet historical re-creation of some sort. However, calling it merely "M1911" is a-OK through and through.

>>386457087
but... the M1911A1 is superior in every way?

Bad company 2

>>386457405
>1911 with rails
Get that shit outta here.

MGS3 and 4 have great 1911s but there's little reason use to them since you'll be doing no kill runs usually. Also you can unlock Big Boss' Custom 1911 in MGS4 by typing in a certain code.
CoD4 has a good 1911, it does decent damage, has a good fire rate and holds 8 bullets. It's outclassed by the USP and deagle in every way but it's still easy to kill with it like with every other gun in that game.
In Bad Company 2 the 1911 is probably the best sidearm in the game
Blood Money's Silverballer is the only gun you'll need to use unless you try to go on a rampage (not because it's bad for that, but because you'll run out of ammo) or want to snipe very far as it doesn't have the range of the WA2000 despite the scope.
Rainbow Six Siege's 1911 isn't that great, but you can get away with any gun in that game if you can headshot. It does decent damage for finishing off enemies too.

I wish more games had this gun, it's beautiful

>>386462212
"M4" was a Colt trademark for some time.

>new vegas 1911
>chambered in 9mm
>mfw triggered

>>386461293
A lot of modern cartridges are super sonic like 9mm, 5.7x28mm, 10mm Auto, .40 S&W, .38 Super, and .357 magnum just to name a few. Research next time before running your mouth dip shit.

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>>386458926
>two of the most reliable guns
Because they were in a zero-sum situation, so they repurposed older, rugged designs, overbuilt them, and made them reliable in that way.

Seriously, Uzis are heavy as all fuck, they're basically solid blocks and they use the classic retard-proof operation mechanism for an SMG, and Galils are literally just fucking rechambered AKs with different furniture. Of course they're reliable.

>Remain relatively cheap
Fucking where? I have never seen even a carbine version of an Uzi for under $1300, and similar pricing on Galils.

>pic unrelated

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>>386462467
>new vegas 1911
>chambered in 9mm

>>386460136
Again, what you're talking about is POINT SHOOTING.
Are you really retarded enough to fucking believe that nobody had ever, before Weaver, held a pistol with two hands?

>>386462531
I don't think he means civilian market.

>>386462467
the 1911 in New Vegas was chambered in .45

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>>386462439
Yes, they tried to turn it into one, but they lost that case.

Like said: if you want to be safe, go with military designations, and drop the manufacturer's name completely.
Even MGS started to do this, not mentioning "H&K", "FN", and such any more from MGS4 forward.

>>386462846
No it wasn't, it used 9mm rounds. I remember being outrageously pissed off at such a dumb thing

>>386462760
Well, nobody else is buying Uzis anymore, and I don't think many nations are specifically adopting the Galil, either.

>>386462467
>Being retarded
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/.45_Auto_pistol

>>386463042
>and I don't think many nations are specifically adopting the Galil
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Galil#Users

>>386462949
All of mgs5's guns were fictional weren't they?

>>386463019
The 9mm and maria in the base game are a browning hi-power, the 1911 is in honest hearts as the .45 auto pistol

>>386461301
No, stop.
You're not gonna suddenly be an authority on "historical military handgun shooting techniques" because you watched a fucking YouTube video.
Don't contribute to the already growing epidemic of uneducated, worthless, anecdotal, and ignorant opinions regarding firearms and firearms usage. It's the reason why /k/ is so shit.
Forget about guns, because you're never gonna have an educated opinion regarding them. Focus on other topics where you might have a chance of one instead.

>>386462191
Show me evidence of a legitimate military teaching its troops to fire two pistols
I did Marine infantry so I know for a fact they don't
Have army buddies who were 11b, I know for a fact they didn't
What country teaches this?

>>386462949
>>386462212
Yeah, these. I've only seen evidence AGAINST the licensing thing. As far as I can remember, it was like one Eurogamer or Polygon article that talked about it, but otherwise it's just been people saying there's licensing now for some reason. There's nothing really in the copyright info of the newer Battlefield games and the like, that should tip people off.

Aesthetics aren't actionable, and if they just use "M1911" or whatever other numbers there's nothing else, either. The real reason MGSV dumped them was for the customization system and an airsoft deal that never materialized, GTAV did it because they've always used frankenguns, and anyone else does it for style or laziness. Nobody's been sued over this.

>>386462719
Alright, retard. Let's get some things straight. The original comment was concerning Call of Duty WaW. So we're talking about a military application in the time frame of 1939 to 1945. Engagement ranges in CoD rarely extend beyond 25 feet.

NOW, in this situation, EVERY MILITARY at the time taught it's soldiers a one-handed firing technique.

I have never once argued that two-handed techniques did not exist. It was simply implied in this conversation that the one-handed technique was incorrect. Which it is not.

>>386463134
yup

>>386462212
And since Metal Gear and Resident Evil called the guns by their exact real life names(Beretta 92fs, Remington 870, H&K USP SOCOM, H&K PSG1 etc.) they had to pay licensing fees which is why they switched to fantasy names and even designs in the case of RE in later games.

>>386463121
You know, I was loading that page up just as you posted it. Yeah, I was sort of wrong, then, I figured they'd all have gone with some other source of AKM-type stuff.

Really, most of it is just irrelevant South American nations, but still counts. Fair enough. The real surprise there is Georgia; I'd figure they'd have no dearth of AK types there, but hey, might as well buy a newer one.

>India
Oh, they wish they were just buying Galils.

>>386454158
The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen.

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>>386462434
>you'll be doing no kills runs usually

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>>386463584
>he doesn't do no kill runs only

>>386463134
Some were failed prototypes and some were fantasy designs.

>>386463506
No. No, no, fuck off. Please, find me an article that says this. Find me a court case, anything demanding they did, find me a fucking copyright in a manual that suggests they even did that.

I have never seen a single shred saying anyone paid licensing fees like that except like one time EA was a little spooked a couple years back, and people generally avoid the name thing. They did change that, but I have never seen that they did it to avoid fees they were already paying instead of just dodging the idea of it, and designs aren't actionable.

>later RE games
Nah, they did that for some dumb reason, but it sure as shit wasn't that.

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>>386463019
activate your almonds, my dude, it's fucking embarrassing

>>386463828
Only plausible explanation for the change tho.

>>386463687
>not throwing a temper tantrum because the russians took away mommy
don't you want full immersion as big boss?

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Man, this is the best /k/ thread I've seen in months, and I'm not even on /k/.

>>386460981
>>386460834
>>386461164
>>386456995
I downloaded and played BC2 recently and they nerfed the shotgun slugs. They either have worse accuracy or don't kill in one shot anymore.

>>386459990
You don't know much about Canada's gun laws then

>>386461497
putin huilo :DDDD

>>386464057
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_6#Taurus_PT-909

Read that. Look at that. Direct, unaltered appearance of a gun from a major company. There's a couple more that are, but I point that one out because it's replacing the Samurai Edge standbys of the series. It was for style, they did that for whatever reason, but if it was for licensing it wouldn't be like that. Note the name, which would be the only actionable part they could get dinged on.

MGSV changed it and people theorized that and decried that because of the series' usual accuracy. They later confirmed it was for the customization system, not licensing.

Again, man, I really don't mean to be rude, I really kind of want to be proven wrong and shown evidence otherwise. But for however long this meme has been going for, I have not seen a single piece of evidence that's why developers are doing this now.

>>386463687
It's like playing Dishonored without killing when you have so many fucking rad ways to kill something or somebody. Stupid writing makes you do that for best ending, though, fucking faggots.

>Ctrl+G Receiver
>No matches

What happened to this place?

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>>386464090
Truly, you might understand Big Boss better than I
>>386464485
I did that too

>>386458393
Because they take a lot more hand fitting than a polymer pistol
>>386464571
Receiver fucking sucks

>>386464571
>What game has the best M1911?
>Receiver
>game

I don't know shit about guns. Which is the most powerful handgun in the world ?

>>386465248
Probably one of those .50 revolvers that break your wrist every time you fire them.

>>386465248
I don't know much about them either but this is certainly a good contender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ea_Q8C_67jY

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>>386460230
Do you feel lucky punk?

>>386464571
>>386460136
>>386457595
>>386457184

We talk about guns in video games, not outside of them. Fuck off and take your politics elsewhere

>>386463271
I'm telling you to not make statements about something you don't fucking know about, you're not a historian, nor did you live during, after, or before WW2.
>>386463402
The original comment was >>386455634 claiming that two handed shooting is an anachronism if it appears in a WW1 or WW2 based game.
I am telling you, that's factually incorrect and a stupid statement.
Now stop fucking arguing with me about it.

>>386465248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMkiDguYtGw

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>>386465248
.44 Magnum

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>>386460320
>MR73
>ugly

Oh, I'm sorry. Here's a gun shaped more to your sense of aesthetics.

>>386465473
>talking about guns irl is politics

what? kill yourself

>>386465534
You're so completely gone into your retardation
Very sad

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>>386463687
>Going non lethal in a game where you play as a special forces soldier

Mafia 1

It's arguably one of the best pistols in the game and when you get to use one it feels like you have all the power in the world.

>>386465534
>The original comment
>was a reply

in any case
>two handed shooting is an anachronism if it appears in a WW1 or WW2 based game.

he said "likely an anachronism", which is a completely valid statement given that, during WW1 and WW2, two-handed pistol firing techniques were taught to increase accuracy at long range, and since we are talking about VIDEO GAMES, engagement distances are going to be short in almost all cases.

Now there are going to be exceptions, of course, which is why I assume he said "likely", so as not to trigger autists like yourself. Life is full of tragedy, however.

>>386465248
Probably one of the .500 caliber pistols like the SW XVR 460

>>386465692
that isnt the S&W 500

>>386464427
Your argument is basically this:
"I have never seen anybody getting copyright striked/trademark infringed over a firearm in a video game before, so people avoiding it by renaming the guns in their games or paying licensing fees are stupid and do it for no reason. I also know more about copyright and trademark laws than lawyers".
Needless to say, you are fucking retarded. You've probably been proven wrong several times already but have been too busy screeching like a fucking autistic sperglord to notice it. Just shut the fuck up already.

>>386453858
Risng Storm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpmEJ7LhW7Y

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>>386453858

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>>386467008
>tfw rising storm 2 sucks so hard compared to 1

>>386466420
Star Wars Xenoverse Remastered?

>>386467552
why

>>386460606
>your strength always has to do with the gun jamming

Soldier of fortune 2

The people who talked shit on the Beretta 92 in this thread:

A. Have never fired one and are regurgitating old memes.

B. Have fired one, but only beat to shot M9s from the 80s that have been abused by every 2nd It and POG in the military.

t. Old fuck that has been shooting and working on 92 variants for over 20 years.

>>386467745
if you mean to imply that the 1911 jams more than the 92, then yes.

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>/v/ discussing guns
and you guys aren't even making food analogies....

>>386454738
fucking ugly

>>386454738
That was my first and only gun, I lost it some years ago god knows where

I'm not jailed yet so I guess no one fount it

>>386468475
Did you not report it, you fucking idiot?

bf1 had the worst m1911 ive ever used in a game. shit was so fucking flat and soft

>>386468475
I found it bro what's your address?

>>386468806
I don't know when it happened and I only realized the gun was not there when I moved

>>386464230
ebin :DDDD

The Beretta 92 had a couple of locking block failures back in the 80s when the Navy SEALs tested them. This was because they used ammo that the Beretta wasn't rated for. Beretta solved the problem back then. ( if you can call it a problem) There are no structural faults because of the open slide design.

The only legitimate gripe one could have about the 92 is their preference of frame safeties over slide safeties.

Stick to video games if you don't know what you're talking about.

>>386460141
That's not the 911.

>>386460828
drop the awp you noob

>>386454738
berettas are a meme, only gun i've shot that's jammed on me

>>386469091
Good thing you don't own it anymore then. Whatever homeless crack addict that inevitably finds it would probably still be more responsible with it than you.

>>386469741
That's funny. I own 3 Berettas, one of which is a surplus 92s from Italy. I've put a couple thousand rounds through each. Had one malfunction. Because I didn't fully seat the magazine.

>>386469091
What does that have to do with reporting a lost gun you idiot

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>>386469994
>>386469741
>idiots arguing through anecdotal evidence

>>386455264
>dual wielding guns
>dual wielding anything in general

>>386470769
In video games it's quite fun

>>386470290
>>386468806
Non-american here, why do you need to report a lost gun?

>>386471343
Because if somebody gets shot by it, it's on record that you didn't have it in your possession.

>>386471425
What if someone steals your gun and shoots somebody before you're able to report it lost?

>>386462191
yeah because books and other material doesn't exist

might as well go and tell historians they don't know shit because they didn't live during Roman Empire or whatever

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>>386470769
>Not dual wielding guns for maximum firepower and stylishness

>>386456412
the bullet holster

>>386466398
And I admitted I was wrong about it being anachronistic, anyway, and posted the training video here!

>>386471685
Probably depends on the case.

>>386471685
Then you can still report that it was lost.
But if it's been missing for a good while, then shows up some time later as evidence it is highly suspicious if it was gone that whole time and only after "you" get linked to a crime scene are you trying to claim it was lost.

>>386466071
Mafia is actually pretty weird in that you need 2 headshots from most guns to kill enemies, including Colt 1911. The anachronistic (I'm using this correctly this time, I swear) Magnum revolver kills enemies in one gut shot, though, but it has huge recoil. It's not like they don't react to headshots, though - they do that animation where they grab their heads, kind of like in nu-Fallouts, so you can finish them off more easily.

>>386471343
I cannot fucking believe this post.
You should have started with "Underage retard who lacks common sense", instead of stating that you're not American, as if that has any fucking relevance whatsoever.

>>386470645
Okay. So the other guy can just look up any military testing videos or stats from the past 30 years. I just hate it when idiots slander good guns for no reason whatsoever.

>>386471832
Except, that poster isn't a fucking historian, you fucking idiot.
I'm grinding my teeth at how much of a sarcastic little cunt you are.

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>>386472501

>>386472579
If you're not a historian you can read a book written by historian. That's one of the greatest strengths of human civilization, the collecting and sharing of knowledge.

>The feeding ramp is polished to a mirror sheen. The slide's been
reinforced. And the interlock with the frame is tightened for added precision. The sight system is original, too. The thumb safety is extended to make it easier on the finger. A long-type trigger with non-slip grooves. A ring hammer... The base of the trigger guard's been filed down for a higher grip. And not only that, nearly every part of this gun has been expertly crafted and customized.

>>386463134
They wanted to have the DD R&D Team develop most of the equipment, so that meant that they had to use original designs. After all, you can't exactly have a lone private military group develop every weapon ever.

>>386472298
States do not maintain a registered database on who owns what firearm by what serial number, numbnuts. The longest any serial number for a firearm sold is 24 hours, by law. States and the Federal government are directly prohibited by the The Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA) to keep any database that directly ties a firearm to its purchaser/owner. There are some exceptions for grandfathered items, and some states and cities do maintain (illegally) limited databases.

>>386473258
and then he proceeds to ruin it by carving a notch for muh cqc

>>386455634
I don't trust wikipedia, please link me a more credible source

>>386474031
He loses it by the end of the game anyway. That faggot Ocelot tosses all his equipment into a lake.

>>386474081
Here you go: >>386459718

>>386457619
>people have built a tolerance for bullets after all these years so you need more now
pls

>>386473986
They contact the ATF, they're the ones who can trace a gun by serial number through the distribution channels down to the shop it was sold at.

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What game has the best mak?

>>386465794
Glocks are for squares

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>>386453858
get out of the way retards

>MGS4
>You can collect a bunch of different tranquilizers
>There's no major noticeable difference

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People always think of the makarov and Tokarev when it comes to Slav handguns but personally I love the APS.

>>386475120
It's kind of ugly but it's supposedly bretty gud.

bad company 2 hardcore mode with magnum rounds is god tier

>>386474427
why does the grip look like a penis?

>>386474726
And?
Glock is cheap, doesn't require much training, reliable and does what it's meant to do well.

Glock is the Toyota Hilux of guns: Reliable, cheap and does what it's meant to do well despite being a rather boring car/gun.

>>386458125
Better to be clean than comfortable.

>>386472474
I do not know anything about guns as civilian ownership of them is forbidden here.

>>386475051
In MGS there's really no difference in choosing what to use except for choosing among lethal/suppressed/quiet

>>386475949
Child porn is illegal here but I still know enough to understand what it entails

>>386475192
You contradict yourself with this statement.
A gun's beauty is derived from its effectiveness and design, not how it looks.
You're not a child, are you?

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>>386468475
You lost a fucking gun?

>>386465794
What is going on with this trigger?

>>386476186
>A gun's beauty is derived from its effectiveness and design
There are plenty of pretty, but useless guns. Deagle, for example. Then you have ugly, but perfectly functional stuff like Grease Gun.

>>386476234
Boating accident.

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>>386459990
A
FUCKING
LEAF

>>386476291
Safety.

>ctrl + f "desert eagle"
>0 posts

>>386476373
Deagle is not a useless gun. People just don't actually know what it's use is because of it appearing in military games.

If you can make a gun functional, that's great, but there's no reason you can't add beauty on top of it. There is no law that says a gun's functionality is equal to its effectiveness.

>>386476510
good

>>386476186
Then Glocks are truly the most beautiful of firearms

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>>386474972
You first.

>>386476514
Well, Deagle is great in its role, but its role is entertainment so I guess. Anyway, I think AПC is ugly but it's a good gun. Feel free to think it's beautiful or whatever. I wouldn't mind to own one either way. Some ugly things are attractive in their ugliness.

>>386476510
>ctrl+f deagle
>5 results before your post

>>386476631
thats a BIG trigger guard

I think Agent 47's custom silverballers are fucking badass

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>>386476936
UUUU

>MGS2: Pliskin gives you the SOCOM early on in the game.
>Proceed to just use M9 tranquilizer

>MGS3: You get some "super amazing" M1911 from EVA
>Proceed to just use the Mk.2

>MGS4: Receive the both the Operator and the Mk.2 at the same time, and also gain access to a whole slew of weapons
>Just use the Mk.2 and get annoyed when the game equips a different weapon for you after cutscenes

>MGSV: All the weapons
>FULTON FULTON FULTON

To be honest, I don't understand the point of all the other weapons sometimes. Especially since the game demands stealth and on higher difficulties, if you get caught, you may as well just give up because you're gonna die after two or three shots anyway. Firing any weapon that's louder than a pin-drop is almost guaranteed to sound an alert, so why WOULD you use anything other than the tranquilizer or, if you're not feeling particularly friendly, another silenced automatic?

I've seen some people blame tranquilizers, but I don't think that's it. It's the stealth. Don't get me wrong, I like stealth games, but does any stealth game really NEED five different rocket launchers and a dozen automatic rifles? If your goal is to make sure no one knows you're there, an AK is not gonna be the best weapon to use. MGS1 didn't even have tranquilizers, but you still couldn't use most of the weapons the majority of time except for certain specific instances because they make too much noise. I mean, I COULD use the FAMAS to take someone out, but that would just summon all the guards to me. I COULD hide somewhere and take out guards one by one with the NIKITA, but again, that'd instantly trigger an alert. I COULD use grenades and C4, but once again, same issue.

>>386457087
>not a glock

>>386458393
>not illegally importing a chink 1911 from canada.

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>tfw no Auto Mag
>tfw no C96
>tfw no handgun license
>tfw
I'd move to the US if they didn't have such a fucked up health care system going on.

>>386476373
You are fucking retarded, stop.
>>386476629
Not really.

>>386475558
Because you want to fug ur mother.

>>386477993
shiit noo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KR2ove20a0

>>386477964
>my opinions on aesthetics are the correct ones
Mm-hmmm.

>>386478149
>Aesthetics
>guns
Whatever your opinion might be, it's definitely not correct.

>>386478326
Everything can have aesthetics. Cars can, why not guns?

>>386460052
Who?

>>386478436
Because guns are generally utilitarian by design, cars are not.
Ugly as shit guns sell too, see pretty much all slavshit in existence.
Ugly cars don't, see Pontiac Aztec.

mgs4

>>386459718
Meanwhile in the USSR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oa7infGJ5bw

>>386474427
siege's mak does alot of damage because they are dumb and think lower mag size = stronger gun.

>>386457727
Because unlike Berettas it looks like a gun real men would use.

>>386477964
Glocks are the epitome of functional and reliable, so according to your own words they are the gold standard by which all firearm beauty is measured.

>>386474726
Guess that makes millions of military and LE personnel, plus civilians, squares.

>>386474427
Resident Evil: Revelations 2 or MGS4.

>>386481102
Duh all normalfags are square as fuck.

>>386479183
>Ugly cars don't
It's sad you believe this to be true

>>386456412
The gattery

>>386481741
Well, current Toyota and Lexus models are an exception. Dunno who the fuck thought that was a good thing.

But generally highly utilitarian and ugly cars don't sell, just like the Pontiac Aztec which was a surprisingly decent car in the end.