KOJIMA is sure working hard these days

>>385619802
And the Dark Knight was the only good one.

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batman uses sticks....
...to keep his enemies away...
and ropes...
...to keep his friends close...

>>385620009
shut the fuck up, Batman Begins was the best, and TDKR wasn't bad at all

>>385619802
Konami was right to fire his lazy ass.

#FuckKojima

>>385620102
Fuck you. Begins was the best. TDK is good but TDKR is a bad movie. Only Batman and Robin is a worse Batman movie.

kojima always had shit tastes but he made good games in the 90s because movies happened to be good

>>385620102
>and TDKR wasn't bad at all

You have got to be joking. The Robin character is one of the worst characters they ever added

It's all part of his master plan

>>385620093
>ropes to keep friends close
what exactly did he mean by this

>>385619802
He's the game director, the only thing he does is tell people how the game should be.

Seriously, how come /v/ suddenly loses all knowledge about videogame development when it comes to this guy alone?
Or is it just the pathetic MGS fanbase still mad because they got the game they deserved after 3 years of constant spam of those cringeworthy trailers?

Someone should make a Kojima tweeter bingo
>Pictures of a sandwich
>Pictures of his toys
>Pictures of that Hannibal book
>Pictures of the food for the party
>Retweeting Hollywood celebrities

I bet he spends like an hour a day "working" just throwing dumb ideas at his team and then goes back to his office to play with toys.

>>385620865
Kojima has never made a good videogame, only fatass MGS autists think so.
MGS is dead and Death Stranding is going to be the same kind of turd his games have always been.
Mods, please, ban all discussion about this hack.

>>385620920
What's the next step?

>>385621043
>I bet he spends like an hour a day "working" just throwing dumb ideas at his team
That's pretty much what a game director does, and since videogames are the bottom of the barrel of entertainment media, yes, they are going to be retarded ideas.

Begins is under rated
TDK IA exceptionally overrated
TDKR changed memes forever
They're just fucking superhero action movies. Nothing even close to actual dramatic or epic masterpieces

Kojima is a childish hack who was never good

Dark Knight > Batman Begins >>>>>>>> Dark Knight Rises

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>>385619802
>capeshit

TDKR was objectively the best until the second half.

>hurr durr what is free time!!!

>Kojima makes the next plane scene

>>385619802
Yeah, anyone who doesn't work 18 hours a day and sleeps the other 6 is a lazy fatass.

>>385619802
>man isn't allowed any free time, he must be slaving away on creating vidya 24/7 with no breaks or sleep

>not realizing he's just the director and designer, so most of what he does is planning which he then passes off to the actual artists and programmers

/v/ once again showing how little they know about their hobby

>>385621123
Crashing the vidyer industry with no survivors

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>>385619802
>Sony gave Kojimbo millions of dollars so he can talk about capeshit on Twitter

>you can't have free time

>>385621364
No, they gave him millions of dollars so he can make a game that just because it's made by him will make millions just like MGSV.

And please, /v/, get some self awareness and stop pretending anyone outside of this place agrees with you.

>>385620102
TDKR was a lazy cash grab. The film had no plot but was somehow three hours long and is objectively Nolan's worst movie.

>>385619802
Batman Arkham Asylum combat confirmed? Would be pretty cool and original.

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>>385619802

>Kojima isn't allowed to be a human being outside of his work

It's like you WANT to be communist locust drones.

>>385621424
Dunkirk is Nolan's worst movie.
A movie focusing on a bunch of soldiers with an incredibly boring plot, based on a battle nobody cares about.

>>385621651
If Dunkirk is his worst movie than this guy must have a pretty incredible career.

>>385621937
No, it's just Dunkirk is terrible.

>>385621972
Cool.

>>385619802
>inb4 death stranding is the typical western interactive movie

i hope his game flops, the only reason MGS was good was Konami

>>385619802
it's sunday dude

>>385621972
I seriously don't understand the praise it got.
Maybe just because it's made by Nolan?
It's legitimately one of the most boring WWII films i've ever watched.

Kojima is a pleb.

>>385622084
MGS has never been good and MG Survive is exactly the spit on it's grave that such a garbage franchise deserves.
Only thing it's done is force into the industry the idea that plots in videogames matter, while delivering an absolute shitshow of a plot in every game, and abysmal and clunky gameplay.

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>>385620009
>he didn't like TDKR

>>385619802
Kojima is watching movies while Hideo is doing all the work, what a shame

>>385622098
It's literally Sinking Ships: The Movie. It's like he saw Titanic and thought "The best part of this movie is when the ship is sinking so I'll put that in my movie 4 fucking times"

>capeshit

>Nolan's best movie is based off of a book

:thinking:

>>385622098
Dunkirk was a snoozefest of a war movie with limited action, no plot, no character development, terrible pacing and avoided anything historical.
But it had some pretty scenes.

>>385622245
Plus, he managed to make a WWII movie in which the characters never feel in any real danger.

>>385619802
When is the bubble going to burst on this guy?

When will fans start calling him out for a westaboo that obsesses over Refn and Nolan films and apes indie movie directors in his spare time?

>>385622175
Only the first half was good, it's like they ran out of fucking ideas and clueless about how giving the whole plot a propper conclusion. Also the first half is the only part where something meme worthy came from, second half was a waste and tanked the whole movie for me and even managed to ruin fucking Bane.

>>385622375
The chance for that was MGS4, and everyone forgave it for being the "end" of the series.

And then PW and MGSV happened but everyone forgave him because he got fired.

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>not watching the SUPERIOR trilogy instead.

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>>385622463
It should have ended like this.

>>385622591
I don't think I could be interested any less in these movies.
The trailers don't look good, the idea itself feels like an even bigger cash in that capeshit, and if I wanted to see monkey shooting guns i'd just take a plane to Detroit.

>>385622902
>Judging movie from trailers
Maximum pleb, please stick to videogame talk.

>>385623096
I simply find the idea of a planet of the apes prequel absolutely fucking laughable.
I can't take the existence of those movies seriously.

>>385620102
for you

>>385620009

Begins was the best, though. TDK and TDKR were mediocre as fuck meme movies.

>>385622591
It'd be nice if Caesar died because he got crushed by a giant stone cross like in the anime.

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>>385619802
Snake?

>>385619802
Plane Scene is Nolan's best work

After the game of a lifetime, I've been "busy"

>>385622175
Yes. I don't like a forced Meme from /tv/.
TDKR was a terribly made movie.

>>385620009
They are all shit, just like all capeshit

Kojima has such an unbelievably bad taste in movies i'm seriously surprised he managed to shit out something like MGS2

>>385626639
That's because even a bad movie is better than a video game.

>>385619802
Oh shit, a Nolan's Batman threat, quick, how do I get (you)s with the least amound of effort?

>Begins is the best
>TDK is overrated
>TDKR is not that bad

My job here is done.

>>385620009
The Joker was pretty dumb despite thr awesome design, also the second part is "fuck we're already done with the Joker but we have half hour left, let's throw a new villain"

>>385620193
>Edgy kid says the same others are saying for attention, more at 9.

>>385626639
He is a westaboo.

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wtf

>>385627482
Crying of happiness or crying of sadness?

>>385620102
Batman Begins is the Fallout 3 of cinema
>don't turn the water purifier or i will kill you, now let me turn on the water purifier
>we will unmannedly microwave the shit out of gotham, except it will only boil the water

>>385627135
>"fuck we're already done with the Joker but we have half hour left, let's throw a new villain"
The entire trilogy works off this sort of thing, I wouldn't actually label it as you have but each movie has a surprise final act villain.
Ra's is assumed to be dead for the most part while Scarecrow is doing most of the stuff at the front. Joker again is causing the chaos then Two-Face begins getting involved at the tail end. Mostly Bane then surprise, Talia.

In my opinion it could have probably been better juggled but at the very least most of the last act villains at the very least had a reason for being out of the picture initially and showing up when they did. In a way though Talia is a bit of a lazy retread of Ra's, but the entire point with TDKR is past mistakes returning to haunt Bruce so whatever.

>>385619802
Kojima's is going to be 70 years old still thinking his big break in Hollywood is just around the corner.

>>385626639

You say that like MGS2 is really good.

His games are rife with elementary problems. The only reason he's worth a damn in video games is because the standards there are so low. He's been very upfront with the fact that he'd much rather have made movies for living except nobody wanted to hire him back then and after seeing his games they certainly don't want to hire him now.

Could you imagine how fucking long winded and boring a Kojima made movie would be? The director's cut would be 30 hours long.

>>385627616
Probably because he empathized with the sad moments of the movie

>>385620009
/tv/ memes are on the other side of the road, m8

>>385627135
wait, so it was okay to have two villans in Begins and DKR, but not in Joker Returns? Why are you so serious?

>>385627616
cuz people like this exist in his comment section

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>>385628575
sorry, forgot picrelated

>>385628690
Feminist memes aside, he's not wrong though.

>>385628801
care to elaborate? or are you expecting to take your, no doubt, thoughtful opinion for granted?

>>385628690

But that guy is right. Sort of. I don't think Nolan necessarily writes females that are more stupid than men, although I wouldn't argue hard to defend The Prestige and Interstellar, but his female characters are not well written and are generally unlikable next to the sea of likeable male characters in his films.

>>385628954
Name one female character in a Nolan movie that's likeable or well-written.

I'll wait.

>>385629064
it was your dumbass assertion, so you defend it, smart guy

>>385628957
the bitch from Memento was well written, manipulative nutjob; so was the Murph.
Likeability is a subjective matter, but they were no less believable human beings than any male characters

>>385622163
Why do you dislike metal gear?

>>385628690
Wisecrack, yes I know, helped me see that the Nolans end up in this rut because they typically go about writing a concept acted out by characters who are less explored than the central theme or only developed by the theme. It's not something reserved for the female cast, it's just that the most prominent leads are helmed by well known male actors who get the best lines, plots and so on so we get a perspective skew.

Especially with the Batman movies the Nolans only had so much room to work with to begin with.

>>385629409
Clunky and mediocre gameplay, focus on the plot, plot being garbage, endless cutscenes, cancerous influence on the industry making everyone else think that "muh cinematic games" are good.

On a second thought, i'll take it for granted that some people might genuinely find female characters shallow-written. It is okay.

Usually because a professional author is well aware that, if they can't get into the mind set of a female person too deep, they usually stay away from the subject.
Some book writers have openly admitted that - they have families, they have female friends, but they never could delve deep into their psychology, so in their stories female characters usually do a supportive role or some secondary job.
That doesn't diminish their achievements in other areas, though.

>>385629165
>Likeability is a subjective matter

No, it isn't. When you give all the good quips, all the intelligent lines, all the amusing snarky comments, etc., etc. to your males characters and have your females characters do nothing but manipulate, be crazy, whine and nag, go on about the power of emotions transcending the laws of physics, etc., etc. one is objectively more likeable than the other. Even his Catwoman was severely lacking in good material in comparison to the other characters of TDKR and she should have been fucking ruling them.

>>385629686
it is subjective because one person can never be appealing to everybody - go back and do your homework again

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All part of his plan.

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>>385621063
>Talking shit about Snatcher

>>385629912
A "game" that is even more of a movie than fucking MGS?

>>385619802
Begins: 8/10
TDK: 4/10
TDKR: 5/10

Man I was so disappointed when I saw TDK on the day it opened. Have rewatched it twice since then to try and find the good in it but it just sucks. The first hour or so is alright but everything beyond that is so fucking dumb, I don't know how people can enjoy it at all.

>>385629520
What do you have to say about how good they were when they came out? They were revolutionary. I dont think they are that clunky specially after mgs3.

>>385620009
The first five minutes of TDKR was the only good one

>>385629912
>Literal movie
>All of the "ideas" are just stolen from a bunch of movies and comics
Great "game"

>>385629973
>being this much of a contrarian faggot

>>385630024
>revolutionary
Not in a good way.
Padding the game with endless cutscenes wasn't anything good.
And aside from MGS1 going 3D, it hasn't been any kind of revolution.

The videogame industry would have been much better without Kojima.

>>385630109
You're an idiot

>>385619802
so death stranding is going to be literally this series of movies then

>>385629747

Except there is literally not a single person on the planet who ever found Rachel Dawes to be a likeable character. Or Ariadne. Or Brand. Nobody even noticed there were any female characters at all in The Prestige.

There is a consist trend, you cannot hide behind "HURR DURR IT'S SUBJECTIVE".

>>385630112
I dont agree but i can see your point.

>>385630112
You sure do get off on hating people

>>385630557
On hating terrible people and bad work, yes.

>>385629686
>When you give all the good quips, all the intelligent lines, all the amusing snarky comments, etc.
"Give"?
You make it sound like the script and director have some real say in the matter, the direction of the plot pulls them both. Evenly distributing those things would do no favors.

Just look at the reception to Lois figuring out a mystery in a matter of days the rest of the world is oblivious to in MoS, or her teleporting about in BvS to give her some presence, it just came off as a chaotic effort.
Or how Harley seems to be at the crux of things in Suicide Squad when she's barely relevant to any of the on-goings, or how out of her depth Widow was in Avengers and Age of Ultron.

Little a female characters says or does feels organic when you try to mechanically to facilitate things around them.

>Even his Catwoman was severely lacking in good material in comparison to the other characters of TDKR
No one in TDKR really had any good material honestly. Bane was just hamming it up with theatrics and vague nonsense, Batman like in TDK is relegated to someone things are happening to so the villain can have their moment in the light instead of the active role he took in Begins. Gordon is just moping around or lying on a bed. Not!Robin is just a time wasting twat. CIA and I'mInControlHere are only remembered for making asses of themselves. Lucius as usually is just there for exposition.

>NO GAMEPLAY TO THIS DATE for Death Stranding.
>He owns a new company and as the CEO and both director of a new game he has this much free time to post on social media non-stop.

Hideo Kojima is a good developer who works as hard as his employees did at Konami. Konami was at fault for MGS5! Hideo Kojima is a super hard worker!

>>385628690
Should have made CIA female

>>385630257
it's nice to see a spokesperson that represents an entire world opinion.
I'm sure you'll bring up some other bullshit argument directly out of your anus when i tell you - wait for it - i didn't mind Dawes in any of the movies she's in.
But this is a pointless conversation - point is, I find Nolan's movies entertaining and that's all that matters.

>>385630764
>s the CEO and both director of a new game he has this much free time to post on social media non-stop
Yes, because a game director barely does shit.

>>385621043
fucking this.

>>385630257
>Nobody even noticed there were any female characters at all in The Prestige.
Bullshit, Black Widow plays the pivotal role of Patrick Bateman's cardboard cut out wife who hamfistedly informs the audience that he has a conflicting personality implying some duplicity with his character.

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>Kojima is going to watch the plane scene

Do you think he finds it funny?

>all these virgims defending kojima after the last THREE piece of shit games hes made

Hes a FUCKING HACK. open your eyes already

>>385630764
Kojima is not a developer, he's a game director.
Then again, obese /v/edditors pride themselves on having no idea about videogame development, or videogames altogether.
I mean, you autistic fucks unironically got hyped for MGSV, even though even the trailers were a shitshow.

>>385631092
Kojima has never made a single good videogame, and his influence on the industry has been COD and DLC-tier.

>>385619802
>doesn't know how to channel inspiration

>>385630724
>You make it sound like the script and director have some real say in the matter, the direction of the plot pulls them both.

This is wank. Of course the writer fucking controls what is written. The notion that stories have a life of their own and they command the writer as to what the single possible path that can be taken is complete and utter crap. At any one point there is hundreds of directions the writer could take a story and they would all be equally valid and natural. He picks one, that's all. Maybe he doesn't even realize he's picked one but that is what has happened.

I've never been a big fan of Joss Whedon and he did have a habit of making all his "good guys" the same but something he did understand is how to make the other characters likeable without them just being clones of the good buys but evil or breaking their characters. It can be done.

>>385631059
Vidya adaptation when

>>385631059
Probably he finds it unironically great

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>>385620997

Hating Kojima for all the wrong reasons is /v/'s favorite pastime activity.

>only watches movies
>doesn't even care about video games
>travels the world instead of working on his "game"
>all his "games" since the Playstation have been 70% cutscenes and 30% barebones stealth
Why does /v/ praise this hack again?

>>385619802
Kojimbo needs some inspiration from the mastermind director.

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>>385621131
>videogames are the bottom of the barrel of entertainment media


Hollywood says hello.

>>385632783
There was a time where Hollywood was good though.
Videogames have always been a joke.

>>385621306
He must have a lot of free time then since he travels around the world constantly.

Before I clicked on the thread I thought these CDs look like goatse

>>385632783
Still better than videogames

>>385619802
So watching a few movies means he's lazy? Where the fuck do you do work that consumes 120+ hours of your week?

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>>385622175
Baneposting came into fruition because /tv/ was using it as a way to make fun of how bad TDKR was you stupid fucking namefaggot.

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>>385633005
You would honestly rather watch the emoji movie instead of playing, lets say for example, Kirby Triple Deluxe?

Logan was the best comic book movie

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>ITT: Contrarianism unending.

Nowadays I'm certain that /v/ is just as bad as Neogaf when it comes to praise and hatred of directors and video games.

Same half-wit opinions built on conjecture and conveniently forgetfulness when it fits the narrative, repackaged for a different audience.

>>385632742

Because for all their whinging about casuals ruining gaming /v/ loves easy movie games just as much as they do, as long as they come from Japan.

>>385633174

It was pretty good, but honestly the last 1/4th part of the movie was pretty shit too. It's like it went from Logan to 00's X-men movies real quick.Complete tonal switch.

>>385633005

Get out.
>>>/tv/

>>385633167
I've already watched it desu

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>>385633264


>Hurr durr le movie game meme

Gameplay to cutscene ratio is what really matters.

The Order 1886, for example, is shit partly because it's entirely cinematic bullshit.

Metal Gear Solid 3 is 3/4th gameplay to 1/4th cutscenes.

If you are making the "le movie game" arguement as a way to juxtapose /v/ as being "just as bad as le casuals" at leasat understand the games you brand as "le movie game".

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>>385633905
You paid money to see this? You didn't just wait for a cam rip?

>>385634053
>Metal Gear Solid 3 is 3/4th gameplay to 1/4th cutscenes.
Wrong, MGS3 has nearly 5 hours of cutscenes and takes 7 hours to complete. MGS4 has an even worse gameplay to cutscene ratio.

>>385633494

The gameplay in the Metal Gear games far outdoes the bland bullshit of any western movie game you can name.

It was never about cinematic shit, it was about the gameplay of these games being rather sub-par, and substitute entire sections that could just as easily have been gameplay, with a cutscene.

>>385634246
My job pays well so why not

>>385621364
>I've never been creative and think ideas come from absolutley nowhere.

i cannot wait for the game to come out and be total shit

>>385634267
>Wrong, MGS3 has nearly 5 hours of cutscenes and takes 7 hours to complete


>5 hour cutscenes
>7 hours to complete

Do you include those 5 hours of cutscenes as part of the completion time? If so, you are outright lying.

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>>385634343
wew lad

>>385634451
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zndcY57Tijo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neSPha9NjEE

Yes I included the 5 hours of cutscenes as part of the completion time because I'm being generous to you, because if you removed that my argument would hold even more strength since it basically proves that the game has more cutscenes than gameplay.

>>385619802
You do realize all he does is post movies, shit post, random food and animals; and nothing else right? I cannot understand how Cerny says this game is already playable and Kojima tries to reassure fans he's not dicking around then posts this shit

Seriously what the fuck

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>>385634425
Even though I know Kojima is a hack, I want the game to turn out to be great because it looks so damn interesting.

>>385634784

>Speedruning

I'll just assume you were pretending to be retarded.

>>385633167
Yes, at least I would only have to endure that turd for 2 hours.

>>385634821
What I can't understand is why /v/eddit loses their shit over someone posting a couple of tweets a day and pretends people don't have free time.
Yes anon, taking those pics and posting them on Twitter must have taken up to 4 hours of his work time, work which consists of telling devs how the game is supposed to be, something that's done mostly in the initial stages.

>>385634821
> I cannot understand how Cerny says this game is already playable
I agree.
I mean, he has posted a couple of tweets and we all know that Kojima is making this game solo and he has no team, he can't possibly have any game made.
I mean, what the fuck, it blows my mind, 4 tweets a day?
How can he possibly do anything at all?

>>385634821
It's almost as if Kojima has a team making the game and he's just the director.

>>385634821
You can't understand how someone who actually meets and talks to the man regularly knows more about his work than the fans who see nothing other than the shit he chooses to post on twitter a couple of times a day? Are you fucking retarded?

Kojima isn't using twitter as a fucking Death Stranding development update platform as if it's some kickstarter game. He's just sharing whatever stupid bullshit he wants to.

>>385634821
>wtf how is Microsoft going to achieve anything, I mean, look at Bill Gates, he isn't programming Microsoft Word, he isn't designing the installation windows, he isn't improving the graphics engine of Solitary, I mean what the fuck

This is what /v/ unironically believes.

>>385635491
>/v/eddit
Why are you here then retard?

>>385636029
>>385635987
>>385635820
>>385635591
>>385635491
>this many triggered Kojidrones

The fact he had to tweet to fans saying he swears he's working on the game and not playing around shows people are losing faith in the guy. Usually directors spend less time on social media platforms and more in work. He's the epitome of the idea guy meme

>>385636210
>less time on social media
Yeah, those 4 daily tweets take a huge time to post.

>more in work
Again, he is the director, he is the ideas guy, he doesn't do fuckall, he walks around the code monkeys and answers any questions they may have about how the game should be, nothing more.

>>385635227
>normal walkthrough
>speedrunning
Here's another walkthrough:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTaOHX8kEkD5z-NSpjqgk4-DiCSu8URON
It has 109 minutes of gameplay.

Just face it you got proven wrong and the only thing you can do is call me a retard.
Here's another fun fact: MGS4 holds the Guinnes world record for longest cutscenes in a video game.

>>385636210
>He's the epitome of the idea guy meme
Holy shit, what the fuck do you think a director is?
That's literally his job, he's an ideas guy, he's the one who tells others how the game is made.
Seriously, how can /v/ know so fucking little about the industry the entire board is about?

>>385636429
>1 guy represents the whole board
Double digit IQ?

If you're a successful creative you can get away with anything.

>>385636587
True, this only happens among the MGS fanbase which i've seen, more than once, claim MGSV's gameplay is because of the Fox Engine, that gameplay is tied to engines.
MGS is both one of the worst videogame franchises ever, and has some of the dumbest following ever.
It's pretty amazing how this gook managed to create a black hole formed out of pure cancer.

>>385619802
Don't you have some Pachinko machines to be making Konami?

>>385636342
not him but that's clearly not the players first run through MGS3
i bet he doesn't even call sigint to tell him about the mushrooms that recharge batteries, let alone do any exploring or experimenting with items

>>385637215
Let's assume you do all those things and play the game at a relaxed pace, that's like what 1-2 hours total added making a total 4 hours of gameplay , that's still acceptable to you?

>>385637618
i remember MGS2 and MGS3 taking about 14-16 hours to complete the first time but that was a decade ago
i don't deny that they're movie games but there's plenty of stuff to play around with, you could spend an hour just throwing snakes at guys if you felt like it

>>385636342

The average speedrun time literally is in the ballpark of 2 hours, skipping all the cutscenes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SWcK6Spd1s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ET6KJ9P46ac


You are full of shit if you equate this to "normal playthrough".
Leave it to /v/ to make arguments that only fit a convinient narrative.

And no, we weren't talking about MGS4, but nice try. We all know it has ridiculous amount of cutscenes.

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>>385636342

You literally are retarded if you think this is a "nomal playthrough" lmao.

>>385620102
someone get this hothead outta here

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>>385621063

>>385636745

>Thing that's popular is bad

Wauv, what a classic opinion.

>>385636342
Hahahaha holy fuck how fucking stupid are you

>>385638847
>wow, this is popular, how dare you criticize it
Surprised you didn't use "contrarian", Reddit's favourite buzzword.

>>385620784
Begins is great, until any hand-to-hand combat happens. Then the camera becomes retarded.

>>385619802
He needs to watch John Wick so he'll incorporate gun-fu into his games.

>>385638939

That literally is what you are.

>>385639045
No, it's just you are a fanboy with no arguments to defend your shitshow of a dead franchise.

>>385620102
fight scenes in bamham begins were corny as hell

>>385639045
>>385638847
How come /v/ is the only place packed with these suspicious people who get triggered everytime someone doesn't blindly suck the cock of everything that is popular?

>>385639104

I don't see you making and argument, just calling it bad.

>>385620997
>he does is tell people how the game should be.
so he told the team to make a terrible, unfocused, bad and unfinished crap game. 2 times in a row?

>>385639210
Probably, and you fucks still ate it up while he raughed all the way to the bank.
Is there any community as pathetic as MGS'?

>>385622084
Tomokazu Fukushima
The only reason some MGS games were good was Tomokazu Fukushima.

>>385622591
too many niggers in that trilogy. Too much aping around.

>>385623834
was a way better game + movie than Metal Grind 5.

>>385639501
dumb filthy FUCKING PIGSKIN CRACKER FAGGOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>385638939
Hahaha what a fucking spacker

>>385639001
oh god, no

>>385639287
I have to confess, I fell for it the first time.
Didn't fall for it the second time.
If it would have had Hayter, but nope. That was the last straw.

>Is there any community as pathetic as MGS'?
yes, Sony fans

>>385639380
No, the gameplay in MGS games has always been laughable, and the plot is proof that videogames are the worst storytelling medium of them all.
The dialogues have been terrible all the way through.

>>385639001
>games

>>385639754
>If it would have had Hayter
But firing Hayter is the only good thing MGSV did.
He's a terrible VA with literally no range and who has a hard time not sounding like he's about to puke everytime he speaks.
His work on 4 and Peace Walker was embarassing.

>>385639778
MGS3 was entertaining, like a Bond movie.
And gameplay of 2+3 was great.
All the others are shite though. I agree.

>>385639380
Ah yes, this nobody who took care of some of the terribly written codec calls in MGS1-3 was the reason these games were good, despite the fact that they are nothing but nostalgia-fests liked by a bunch of melodramatic neckbeards.

>>385633257
good faith discussion is overrated

>>385619802
so much money
so much laziness

>>385639878
>terrible director now equals terrible VA
nope.
When the director says "puke", then the VA pukes. That's not the fault of the VA, but the fault of the director (Kojima hack fraud). Kojimbo hated Hayter right from the start anyway.

And hiring a C-grade TV "actor" to replace him was the most stupid decision ever done.

>>385639952
Sure, if Bond movies consisted 40% of James Bond eating food.
Kojima has always been terrible and incapable of making proper references.
He wants to make a game that feels like James Bond?
He literally mentions James Bond in it.
He wants the theme to be peace?
The word "peace" is spouted in every single line of dialogue.
He wants to reference Moby Dick?
He calls the main character Ahab.

>>385640029
And yet that game, like MGSV, will make more than twice it's budget on release day.

>>385639971
Ah yes, and the games being shit as soon as that totally unimportant writer left is just a coincidence.

also
>just codec
so only the codec where just basically almost all of the story was being told.

>Kojima got a brain aneurysm
yes, that must have been it

>>385640116
Except the director of the game doesn't have anything to do with directing VA work, he directs the game itself.
VA is normally directed by a director specifically hired for VAs.

>That's not the fault of the VA
Oh sure, the fact that Hayter has NEVER given a single proper performance is always the fault of other people, not the fact that he has no fucking idea about acting.

>And hiring a C-grade TV "actor"
As opposed to a Z-lister nobody that, if it wasn't for MGS, nobody would know he even existed?

>>385640124
don't mix Kojima hack fraud crap with awesome Tomokazu Fukushima dialog.

Yes Kojimbo is a hack fraud. We agree on that. He is an incompetent hack, who just got lucky and got a great team and also great writers.

He is basically the George Lucas of vidya.

>>385640343
>the games being shit as soon as that totally unimportant writer left is just a coincidence
Did that writer leave after Metal Gear 2?

>so only the codec where just basically almost all of the story was being told.
Yes, the codec where some of the worst lines of dialogue ever written are spouted.
>B-B-BUT LE MGS2 LE PREDICTED LE SJWS

What a pathetic franchise.
At least, in the end, it got what it deserved.

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>>385639189

Because all you have done so far is uncritically call something bad, and the people that like it dumb, and fanboys. What do people have to go on, when your replies amount to nothing but using buzzwards negative connotation.

"Wauv, why are people mad that I call thing they like bad"

It's not because you have negative opinions, it's that you are being an annoying dumbass about discussing it.This is every fucking thread about either Kojima or MGS.

>>385640352
Kojima actually also directs the Japanese VAs.

>>385640587
Not the english ones though.
In fact, Hayter said that he has only met Kojima a couple of times and that he barely knows him.

>>385629973
Holy shit get some taste dummy.

>>385640352
>He directs the game
>VA isn't part of the game
>hack fraud has nothing to do with voice directing

yes sure buddy. Keep on sucking that Kojimbo cock.

> the fact
kek
only in your mind, buddy. Only in your mind

>if it wasn't for MGS
Hayter made MGS.. Hayter IS Snake.

It's like replacing Guy Cihi as James with some incompetent shmuck.
Or like replacing Monica Horgan as Marie with some horrible incompetent bitch face.

Do you guys seriously not understand that game development is like any other job where you do stuff after you leave for the day?

How autistic are all of you?

>>385640453
No, i'm going to mix everything because it's the same.
MGS1 is a fucking embarassment written by someone with as much knowledge of genes as a fucking 8 year old.
Seriously, everytime I have to hear about the genome soldiers and how Big Boss was a great soldier because of his genes I can't help but almost smash my forehead into a wall.

Then MGS2, literally "it's supposed to be shit": The Game.
A game with the same clunky gameplay, but with first person view.
An incoherent mess that goes full retard and decides to throw one twist after the other until you just stop caring about the plot altogether due to the mess of retarded asspulls and terrible dialogue.
And it does everything for the "message"?
What message, you are not tied to your genes?
What the fuck kind of Little Red Riding Hood "be nice to everyone" shit is this?

And then MGS3, a completely empty story that never makes any attempt at making me care about anything happening in it.
Oh wow, enemies change with the times, so much kino, it's so deep, every single line of dialogue has so many things going on.

Dead franchise, and for a good reason.

>>385640815

It's a Kojima thread. It literally cannot become dumber.
People conviniently forget how development works, and now we can laugh at "LE HACK HAHAHA GOTTEM XDDD, KOJIMA ACTUALLY ALMOST BANKRUPTED KONAMI GUYS, BASED HAYTER"

>>385640781
>only in your mind, buddy. Only in your mind
Oh wait, you are going to tell me that Hayter is a good VA?

>Hayter made MGS.. Hayter IS Snake.
Agreed because Hayter is a legitimately bad VA who has never stood out in any way, truly the face of MGS.

MGS is dead, it's getting a fucking zombie spinoff to piss on its grave, and Hayter has no jobs now because he is a terrible VA with no talent, and a terrible director who only cares flops.
This is, by far, the best timeline.

>>385640871
MGS1 I agree, that one is also shit

>MGS2 REEEE
you didn't understand it. Okay. We got that.

>MGS3
obvious bait.

>>385641008
Konami didn't want to take risks in game development because it is literally throwing millions of dollars at the wall for years in hope that you make enough money to cover the costs of it.

Many publishers survive by hedging their bets on enough games to make it so that the failure of one won't bankrupt the entire thing.

Of course, it's easier to make money with Pachinko. But now Japan's government is cracking down on that.

Also, Konami may or may not be a front for the Japanese Mob.

>>385641053
haha
yeah, Hayter only wrote for example X-Men 1+2. Terrible movies, right.

>it's getting a fucking zombie spinoff
that may actually be better than MGS4 + Grind 5 combined. Not that doing so would be an accomplishment. It's simply being better than cancer and AIDS.

>>385641095
>you didn't understand it
Oh, that's right, the infamous VR theory, le pure kino, right?
It's so deep, almost a post-modern masterpiece, you could say, a work of art.
It's a bunch of incoherent pretentious mess.
"you didn't understand it" is the only possible argument you can have to defend it, because there's no way to actually, legitimately defend it.
It's a terrible plot that commits every sin a writer can make, then again, we are talking about Kojima.

>obvious bait.
Oh no, do tell, what are the depths of MGS3?
Hearing again and again how I have to kill The Boss?
The "PLEASE, YOU HAVE TO CRY NOW"-bait ending scene that actually backfired into being hilarious because EVA's VA tried to make it as if she was crying but it actually ended up sounding fake as fuck?
The retarded Cobras who have literally no reason to exist except to give you some boss fights?

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>>385641393
>Hayter only wrote for example X-Men 1+2
And that's his list of accomplishments, capeshit.

>that may actually be better than MGS4 + Grind 5 combined
Actually it has the potential to redeem MGS because I won't have to put up with cringeworthy dialog, hack VAs, and cutscenes every 5 minutes and pretentiousness, or top-down cameras.
You know, maybe, for the first time in MGS' history, we might get a Metal Gear that's an actual videogame.

>>385641393
X-Men 1 was pretty mediocre though.
People praised it for the same reason they now praise Wonder Woman, everyone thought it was going to be a complete, embarassing shitshow, and ended up being a 6/10 instead.

>>385620943
He uses ropes to keep his friends close

Christ man can u read

>>385641289
>Every main installment of MGS sold at least 4 million copies
So risky. I'm sure they genuinely believed the ridiculously hyped fifth game being released on more platforms than ever was doomed to fail.

>>385641393
>X-Men 1+2. Terrible movies, right.
Yes?

>>385638250
The walkthrough I shared skipped all the cutscenes and took more than 4 hours to complete. That's twice as long as the average speedrun as you claim.

>Leave it to /v/ to make arguments that only fit a convinient narrative.
That's hilarious coming from someone who posts a speedrun to prove his argument about gameplay length.

>>385641393
>Hayter only wrote for example X-Men 1+2. Terrible movies, right.
Well yes, capeshit tends to be pretty fucking terrible.

>>385620997
>Seriously, how come /v/ suddenly loses all knowledge about videogame development when it comes to this guy alone?

Maybe you should roll through some of the credits of his games again or you know watch some of his dev vids for the fox engine. The guy knows his stuff.

>>385638342
>>385638887
>n-no he's not playing the game as I would that doesn't count!
I knew Kojimdrones were deluded but this is a new low.

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>>385621063
Thank you for your shit taste anon

>>385619802
Of course he is, guys, and Konami's the one to blame! MGSV was damn good but fuck Konami, right!?

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>>385641560
>CIA desu
Couldn't make it 10 seconds.

>>385642507
MGSV was fucking terrible.
Kojima and Konami need both to fuck off already, they have nothing of value to offer to the industry.

>>385619802
When you find out why Bane wears the mask you will be ashamed of your words and deeds.

So the guy whose job is make up stories is spending his time figuring out why certain stories and their depictions worked or didn't work and making mental notes for future use? Wow what a lazy bum, unlike me, the eternal shitposter!

>>385641946
It's always a risk. And with the way that Kojima worked I'm sure they were worried that they were going to break even.

You have to understand it from a dev perspective. You spend 4+ years making something with ~100 people, that is a lot of salaries to pay. You are increasingly nervous that people will run to your series in the same way that they used to. I'm sure with the spacing in between games and (most likely) the change over in management some of them were not there for the last big hit game.

It feels different when you are on the dev side, trust me.

>>385622902
>if i wanted to see monekys shooting guns i'd just take a plane to Detroit
kek

>>385639952
>And gameplay of 2+3 was great.
2 and 3 have acceptable stealth gameplay but the boss fights in both games were terrible though. Except for Volgin and the Boss.

>>385640871
MGS1 was about how everybody thought that genes were so important but it turned out that the genetically inferior twin was the superior one after all.

Then MGS2 was about memes.

>>385643037
AKA, about nothing.
They are badly written stories about non-sensical themes, so that leaves the gameplay, which has always been mediocre.

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>>385622606
fucking kek

>>385619802
>another e-celeb thread

>>385643104
>AKA, about nothing.
nope.

>>385640542
why'd you post a dead politician that has literally nothing to do with anything?

>>385641597
So you don't actually want Metal Gear?

>>385643492
It's funny isn't it?
The only way to make MGS an actual game is by tearing apart the foundations previous games had.

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>>385641560
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpPkcR13uJ8

>>385622591
Went to complete shit. War was an abomination.

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>"Uh, you dont get to bring games"

>>385619802
Gets he needs more ideas to steal and shove into his """"games""""

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Why haven't you flooded his twitter feed with banepostin', /v/?

>>385620009
fpbp

>>385623649
I doubt anybody cares about the anime.

>>385644714
That's /tv/'s job, plus they don't like him

>>385634475
>uses an autistic anime gif
You both should fuck off retards LOOOOL

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>>385644801
All the more reason to crash his feed, no?

>>385620193

Konami fired the whole gaming department

>uhh actually i won't kill you i'll just not save you hehe got you there thought i had a little character trait going on :^)

>>385643037

MGS2 was about informational control and influence

But yeah MGS2 is a meme game

>>385645485
>MGS2 was about informational control and influence
literally memes

>>385619802
>/v/ nuthugs this pleb and his shit taste

No wonder /v/ is constantly getting worse

>>385629064
Females characters don't to be likeable, nor do they need to be well-written. No character does.What matters is if such things are called for in the story. If they're important enough, they'll be well-written.

>YFW Gosling gets hired to be part of the cast in DS

>>385629064
fuck this