Why isn't hard sci fi more popular?

>>385612949
because normies have bad taste
see: team fortress 2

Because it takes actual effort, you can't just justify everything in your universe as "DUDE IT'S JUST SCIFI TECH LMAO". Also braindead normalfags don't even know what gravity is, so to them hard scifi has no importance as they wouldn't be able to understand the work that went into it anyway.

>>385612949
wot film

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>>385614280
The Expanse

>>385614040
okay anon, what is gravity?

>>385614715
Where are the radiators?

>>385614715
Man I want to get my hands on those spaceship models

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>>385614823
Co0nsequence of spacetime curvature (there's a lot more to say but I'm not bored right now). Point wasn't really that anyway, even though 99.999% of normalfags would respond a force, the point is most normalfags don't think. When they see a large ship floating into a hangar, they think "oh cool brah" instead of thinking about how and why it's floating. They also won't think about the insane forces exerted on the people inside a ship when they start doing anime-tier dogfighting in space with hairpin turns at tens of thousands of meters per second. Point that out to a normalfag and the response will be "DUDE JUST TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF LMAO".

That's why hard scifi isn't worth it for most, it's a tonne of effort for almost no profit.

To make this more videogames, pic related is by far the most realistic space combat game I know of right now. It's really good too, hope you know your orbital mechanics.

>>385615171
Right here, actually.

>>385614715
The Expanse is such a fucking godly show

>tfw you'll never be a Martian

>>385612949
it's too hard

>>385612949
If it were hard scifi that dude would be kicked off the mission for endangering the ship.

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>>385615393
>TFW no 2+ meter tall Mars gf ;_;

>>385615487
he's the pilot of a small crew and I believe in that episode he's drunk and bored passing the time while everyone else is down on a moon base doing cool stuff

Is the show close to being concluded? I only watch shows when they're finished with a proper finale.

>>385614040
>Because it takes actual effort, you can't just justify everything in your universe as "DUDE IT'S JUST SCIFI TECH LMAO"

Except every 'hard' sci-fi setting has a faster-than-light drive which has no basis in real physics.

>>385612949
Because hard sci-fi is a meme

>>385615730
>>385615393
The whole "lower gravity=being taller" shit always annoyed me. you don't get taller, your back just "uncompresses" by like an inch or two. Also, that shit is terrible for your back an will give you back pain if you're not working out a bunch to compensate.

>>385615987
You could theoretically go from point a to b faster than light traveling through a normal vacuum could without breaking any laws of physics.
Just ask Alcubierre.

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>supposedly hard scifi setting
>lasers are the long range weapon of choice in space

How to spot Brainlet "Science" Fiction 101.

>>385615987
Well technically you can travel faster than light. Depends how fast the light is travelling.

>>385616260
>You could theoretically go from point a to b faster than light

No you can't. Nothing can go faster than light. Light tries, it's just not able.

>>385616292
Those are railguns as far as I know.

>>385616292
Lasers make plenty of sense in space

1) No atmosphere = no diffraction and scattering. Beam stays perfectly intact and perfectly collimated until it reaches the target.

2) Starships need a lot of electricity, lasers need a lot of electricity. It's the same synergy that makes lasers a good weapon for nuclear powered sea vessels.

>>385615347
You can't really be bitter to them; most people don't really understand and care about those subjects.

>>385616328
Also forgot to mention, it depends who's observing the spaceship and the light.

>>385612949
Modern sci-fi tends to be obnoxious nu-male shit, ain't nobody got time for that.

>>385616467

Also 3) at long distances you want your projectile going as fast as possible so the enemy can't dodge it as easily. Even the most insane railgun will only be shooting things at less than 1% the speed of light

>>385616328
You can technically speaking end up at your destination faster than light moving through a normal part of space could.

>>385615347
You seem quite bitter.

>>385615987
>hard science fiction
>there must be no fictitious elements
spotted the dullard

>>385616489
>it depends who's observing the spaceship and the light.
It doesn't, this is what 'relativity' covers.

>>385616467
>Beam stays perfectly intact and perfectly collimated
WRONG.
No laser ever made has a perfectly cylindrical beam. There are always minuscule imperfections due to the limits of manufacturing techniques, meaning that the laser will slightly "bloom" and, at greater distances, the light will be too spread out to do damage.

>>385616328
>Nothing can go faster than light
>hop on car
>turn on headlights
>beam light now move at lightspeed+car speed
checkmate atheists

>>385616328
>Nothing can go faster than light.

In a vacuum.

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>>385615347
>HUR DUR PEOPLE SO DUMB I SO SMART
>LOL I KNO IT NOT REALISTIC

People like you are the most insufferable faggots.

>>385616594
This, the point of hard Sci-Fi is not that there's no fiction, rather that the world has set rules and the story and tech follows those rules as if they were real. If you've previously shown that something works in a certain way you stick to it or are forced to find a reasonable explanation that still adheres to the worlds rules to allow the change.

>>385615783
Yeah, but why did he want to shoot the handrail?

>>385612949
Because it's boring honestly af honestly, even this webm is sending me to nap country. >>385615347 also this guy is right, nobody gives a fuck about space shit and how it works -- only literal autists are interested in that shit.

>>385614715
the book is fucking better

>>385616653
>There are always minuscule imperfections due to the limits of manufacturing techniques

No, due to current-day mass production techniques. A space laser would be made in a bunnysuit lab like for working with silicon.

You also would not necessarily use glass lenses

>>385616467
>>385616542
Lasers still suffer from massive diffraction in anything but deep space due to the insane distances involved, not to mention the insane lens array length required to keep precision at those distances. That coupled with terrible efficiency against armour (that's just something lasers can't escape) means lasers would actually be pretty terrible at dealing damage. As >>385616653 said, these minuscule imperfections would become massive due to the insane distances involved in space. At that point, the only feasible solution is getting closer, at which point missiles and projectiles lose their travel time disadvantage. They would, however, be great at targeting small exposed components (radiators, engines, guns) and disabling them.

>>385616797

The point of hard sci-fi is that that the fiction are the events, which are achieved by our IRL tech level.

>>385616902
I also throught that he was gonna shoot it, but seeing the numbers on the side of the gun I now think that he was just measuring the distance with the targeting laser.

>>385616594
For it to be 'hard science fiction', none of the science can be fictional. Only the fiction can be fictional. Like the setting.

>>385616797
The problem with sci-fi is that sci-fi nerds are quick to No True Scotsman any kind of sci-fi which isn't to their hyper autistic specifications. It would be like fantasy fans saying a series is no longer "true fantasy" if the characters use any kind of technology above medieval levels.

>>385616131
No, if you are born on Mars you will grow taller as the gravity doesn't pull down on you so much. An earthling would 'uncoompress'

>>385615347
Wow, a good post on /v/

>>385616997
so, Breaking Bad is now hard science fiction?
is The Big Bang Theory also Hard Science Fiction then?

>>385616956
You don't even necessarily need an atomically perfect collimator that makes a perfectly parallel beam, you just need the laser to hit the target. You can have computerized lenses to focus the target without worrying about beam parallelization.

>>385617110

Yes and so is most porn movies.

>>385616967
the "hardness" is only how well they stick to the rules, whatever those rules are.

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>>385616730
>Facebook filename
>Mobile screenshot

>>385616967
>by our IRL tech level

That sounds very not sci-fi. That sounds almost as far away from sci-fi as fantasy is. Unless by our tech level you mean your understanding of physics.

>>385617110
Where did you get that idea? What part of my post gave it to you?

>>385616956
I always thought that lasers would be great anti-missile systems. Obviously you'd have to be outside the explosive radius of the missile but it's physically impossible for it to "outrun" a laser.

>>385612949
this looks so fucking stupid.

>>385617203
>none of the science can be fictional - so modern tech setting

>>385617080
>source: your ass

Post some actual proof before you spout that bullshit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvs_f5MwT04
haha time to shill the best lispy autist on the internet

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>>385617154

>>385616985
>not just eyeballing it

way to make the stunt magnitudes less impressive.

>>385614715
This is stupid. The camera shake and everything else.

>>385612949
Because nobody cares, really.

>>385617475
>facebook gwoop
>feowetical

Really interested but fuck watchin a half an hour video of a guy with a fucking lisp.

>>385617137
The problem is, you're still losing a lot of power and laser ablation is already terrible against armour, and that's not counting that spaceships could simply fart out smoke or liquid to create a cloud around them that would absolutely wreck a laser. Lasers could literally take hours to days to wear down the armour plate of a large-ish spaceship, and that's not considering countermeasures (aforementioned smoke), anti-laser armour (there's a lot of stuff way better than steel at that), the fact that lasers couldn't fire long bursts due to overheating in space (no air cooling at all), and that the damage would be very localized to a tiny point (so if you aren't always hitting the same spot, you start over). Missiles and projectiles, however, can fuck up anything they hit even without passing the armour plate due to massive internal spalling and structural stress. Of course all this is with at least semi-realistic power limitations, if you go full science magic with star-destroying lasers shit changes.

>>385617220
Yes and no, a laser would be great for targeting fast movers for obvious reasons, but you hit the issue above when targeting a missile from the front. The front cap of a missile would be very easy to heavily armour (remember, no gravity so missiles can weigh more), making it very hard to a laser to take out. However, disregarding that (e.g. retards didn't armour their missiles or you for some reason can target the engines), lasers would be great for point defence.

>>385612949
Because hard scifi is an oxymoron. There is no hard fantasy for a reason.

>>385612949
Unsurprisingly, there's a lot of science involved in making a hard sci-fi setting. Go figure, right? And if you try and make such a setting, and slip up and get some of the science wrong, there are thousands of fanboys perfectly willing to sperg out into the wee hours of the night about how shit your show is.

Basically, you damn near need a doctorate in physics and NASA approval to make a hard scifi setting. It just isn't worth the hassle. And while you can go on about how dumb the normies are, not everyone really has the time or inclination to study physics just so they can appreciate this one show on TV.

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>>385612949
books 5 and 6 make me hope for an OPA genocide.

The eternal belter is behind everything.

>>385617801
I am not the anon who linked the vid, but
you will get used to it

besides a half hour vid is pretty short for him.
But what I like about his vids, is that he is not just rambling, he compiles a proper script with logically following talking points and stuff.

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>>385612949
Because hard sci-fi is really, really, really hard to do. You don't have a perfect model of the universe in your head, so errors in your sci-fi are unavoidable. People complain even about really basic shit like The Martian and how it was totally impossible because of some small errors in the scenario, and that shit was basically contemporary. Extend it 100, 200, 300 years or more into the future and your "hard" sci-fi is going to be so full of holes it's basically science-fantasy anyway. Not that you can't respect a guy for at least trying.

But most people also don't really care that much, like lord autismo right here points out >>385615347.

It also has tons of huge downsides, in how it invalidates almost all the common sci-fi tropes. You can throw pretty much all the 'fun' shit out the window. No FTL; (probably?) no wormholes; no force fields; no fancy space battles with pewpewlasers; no psychic powers; no lightsabers; no retarded asscrap humanoid aliens that are and act like just humans in crappy face makeup; etc. People don't want that shit. They want explosions and lasers and klingons.

In essence, it's just not worth it.

>>385617893
It doesn't exist by that name, but there is a difference between high fantasy and low fantasy that parallels soft scifi and hard scifi

>>385617893
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_fantasy

>>385616913
>being THAT guy

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>>385617860
>Lasers could literally take hours to days to wear down the armour plate of a large-ish spaceship

This is nonsense, you haven't done the math.

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>>385615347
>He has to let the carrier itself come into range.

Dude, launch drones after intercepting them, use the extra Delta-v to intercept and pulverise it. Why do you hate gold medals?

>>385618338
>no giant glowing energy beam
whats the fucking point

>>385612949
when the fuck is season 2 coming out on netflix

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Imagine a world where the tone of ME1 persisted with ME2 and ME3, and all the games that aped ME matched that tone as well

>>385612949
Because hard sci-fi tends to be complex, and complicated things take a lot of effort to make and aren't easily digestible i.e. there's no mass appeal

>>385618465
Don't tell me you haven't seen it yet just because it's not on Netflix

>>385618338
This guy's job is kinda rad.

>>385618476
that's also the world where Hillary Clinton got elected, the Cubs lost, WW3 happened and the cetaceans inherited the Earth

>>385616956

Chemical and gas-based are indeed suffering from diffraction, but they are not the only solution. There are things like X-ray lasers, which are could be litteraly "weapon of doom" for space combat, because they will be capable of initiating nuclear fission in any material they hit. So damage they inflicted goes not from trying to cut small hole through enemy armour but by detonating nuke at point blank range.

Problem? While they are theoreticaly possible, but we dont have a technology to build one, because that will require some crazy superconducting material that we cant produce.

Yet. We dont have a technology to build a simple CO2 laser like 70 years ago...

>>385618637
Sounds better than Mass Effect Andromeda.

>>385616653
With the use of a focusing lens, the beam waist can be calibrated to the distance of the target, ensuring that the imperfect collimation is focused to a point on the target.

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Stop browsing here right now and go read: https://childrenofadeadearth.wordpress.com/2016/07/02/the-photon-lance/

Dunno why people bother posting lengthy explanation when this guy has done it for them already and they obviously know of it.

>>385617860
>spaceships could simply fart out smoke or liquid to create a cloud around them that would absolutely wreck a laser
That stuff weighs though.
And every gram counts when you are ins pace.
Go on projectrho, someone did the calculations and turns out you might as well use normal armor since the effectiveness is the exact same

I always thought that the difference between normal Sci-fi and hard Sci-fi was that normal both just handwaves most the science as space-magic and usually has different coloured/textured humans as aliens where as hard tries its best to at least make up an explanation and has aliens that actually look like other species and not just people who had modelling clay and a bucket of paint dumped on them

>>385618338
That's very thin compared to armor.

What if someone made a spaceship coated with mirrors? Try hitting that with lasers, nerds

>>385618528
I just finished s1 but cant find torrents for s2

>>385618998
combat lasers don't fire in visible spectrum

>>385618981

And the tool he's using is very small compared to a weapons-grade laser on a large frigate, destroyer, carrier, etc.

>>385618338
>thin plates
>has to be done point blank
What happens if he takes five steps back?

>>385619006
https://www.1337x.to/torrent/2177061/The-EXPANSE-Complete-Season-2-S02-2017-720p-AMZN-WebRip-x264/

>>385618998
0.1% of laser energy gets through reflective coating, a very small area of coating is vaporized, now 100% of laser energy is being dumped into the mirror's substrate, mirror warps, heat and vaporized material destroys rest of coating

>>385619112
And at distances billions of times shorter, not to mention you will notice the cable, suggesting the power supply is far from portable. It doesn't scale like you seem to think.

>>385619125
Well, that laser is deliberately very unfocused so he doesn't slice a wall in half if he mishandles it
So it wouldn't cut if he did that. But certainly it could if you build it that way

Hardness is not a quality that elevates a work. It's trivial unless the work in question is a literal textbook used to teach people physics or engineering. That's different from the goals of narrative fiction.

>>385617220
Was this actual researched tech or am I just remembering it from a Tom Clancy book?

>>385619063
Then use mirrors that reflect the spectrum of the lasers, durr.

>>385619264
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1

>>385619227

There are folks who judge fictional works by their hardiness and want a work as hard as possible, like ITT

>>385619264
US is live-testing a bunch of different laser systems, currently they're anti-drones but the goal is obviously to have a reliable anti-missile point-defense.

>>385619227
That's also correct.

>>385619137
>https://www.1337x.to/torrent/2177061/The-EXPANSE-Complete-Season-2-S02-2017-720p-AMZN-WebRip-x264/

cheers, guess engine I was using blocked the search results

>>385617425
>Post some actual proof before you spout that bullshit.
>Mars physics and sci-fi

here we go again lads

>>385618338
>speeded

Normies don't care for themes and narrative. They just wanna shoot stuff.

>>385616997
So most things in sci-fi are pretty much not allowed then?
Most forms of space travel are no disallowed too?
Is any technology beyond 2030 not allowed?

>>385619264
nuclear pumped lasers were considered as part of the "star wars" program. project excalibur i think.

>>385620156
No, it's really simple, it means your technology needs to be feasible and not run on magic like faster-than-light drives do.

>>385616328
You can fold space dingus
Wow amazing

>>385620494
You just need some spice.

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Please note that light ALWAYS moves at the same speed, c, regardless if it is in a vacuum or not. The idea that light goes slower is because light will stop to "handshake" electrons, so you can see it as the light stopping several times on the journey from a to b through the medium, but when the light actually is travelling, it always does so at c.

I know someone is about to get this wrong so just putting this out there.

>>385619227
In a setting where science (or scientific devices) is integral to the plot, inconsistencies in the science are just as damaging as any other kind of plot hole.

>>385620302
Just being feasible doesn't make it accurate science.
Very few things would be allowed if we only accepted realistic science

>>385612949
Because sci-fi is something women lauigh at and they will not abandon half the audience

>>385615347
jesus fucking christ i hate nerds so fucking much
please kill yourself

>>385617568
but anon we gotta be EPIC

>>385612949
Halo did it well.

Advanced Warfare's story was cool.

MGSV/MGR

Binary Domain

Space Station 13

Space Engineers.

Arma 3.

What else couldyou want.

>>385615347
Does anyone else like both hard-scifi and science fantasy like Star Wars? Ita fun to switch between genres for awhile and enjoy aspects of each that you can't get in the other. Just like its fun to enjoy vidya with bikini-armor level unrealistic armor as well as full plate and mail realistic armor.

Idort master race

>>385620813

Thats what hard sci-fi means, only real science.

>>385621135
No it doesn't, hard-scfi has a lot of theoretical science or even totally made up shit but treated as if it was realistic and with realistic and balanced limitations. Like FTL travel, or mechs with realistic functioning (ignoring the fact that they are highly impractical and would need to be very strong in the leg joints to not be crushed by their own weight).

>>385621126
I do. Downbelow Station is good, but so is Star Wars.

>>385621135
>hard sci fi means only real science
>real science at most means modern science
Desperate Housewives and 50 Shades of Gray confirmed for anon's choice of hard science fiction.

>>385621350
>Downbelow Station
>has FTL
RRREEEEEEEEEE

>>385617425
astronauts that spend like months up in space come back taller
https://www.space.com/19116-astronauts-taller-space-spines.html
since mars proof isnt an option, at this point it's only just speculation that a nigga will either compress if they visit mars for an extended period or grow taller if they live their whole lives there but their height would also require proper nutrition

>>385620748
No. There is additional light as a consequence of the incident light passing through the material and, while each individual ray is traveling at c, the net effect being wave annihilation resulting in only a slower wave being apparent. I don't know if this is what you were getting at but calling it a "handshake" is weird as hell.

Because hard science space battles would be AI's targeting each other from thousands of kilometres away and insta killing each other with mass drivers. Boring.

>>385618338
what's the range on that thing?

>>385621248

Well, how about REAL SCIENCE only? What is the is name for this sort of subgenre? Hardcore science fiction?

>>385621440
50 shades was meh, but Desperate Housewifes was god-tier tho.

>>385620156
It's a scale. Babylon 5: IFH is harder than Star Wars: Rogue Squadron, but softer than Rogue System.

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>thinking all those people saying they love science actually know what an equation is

>>385617379
What he means is that it has to adhere to what we know about physics.
Science is much, much further ahead than technology is at this point.
Take the alcubierre drive for example. It's a theoretical engine thought up by alcubierre that fits our understand of physics, but according to him we're either hundreds of years away from building it or it might even be impossible for us to build it.

>>385621482
>someone actually knows what Downbelow Station is
This reaction is better than I expected.

>>385620756
>In a setting where science (or scientific devices) is integral to the plot
What does that mean, exactly? Scifi explores the relationship between humans and technology, the consequences of discoveries and inventions, our perception of reality, the philosophical and ethical dimensions of science and so on. Explaining how stuff works just gets in the way. If you want to know how rocket engines are built or why they produce thrust, read a textbook.

>>385621790
I'm sorry anon, I just wiki'd it. The genre says "Military Science Fiction", which I'm vary of. Is it actually good?

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>>385621621
Modern, just modern, because its only real science if its been tested, experimented and verified.

So basically all your modern warfare games with night vision, thermal vision, IR, satellites. Orbiter 2010 with modern launch vehicles, non-FTL space prolusion, ion drives that are incredibly slow but no EM/Cannae Drive because it hasnt been verified scientifically in space yet, so it wouldnt show up, thats your real science in vidya, dreadfully boring, painfully modern, you can play Orbiter flying the space shuttle for your real, hard science modern experience but its much more fun to fly the futuristic non-real science but hard-scifi inspired Delta Glider and land on moon bases and shit.

>>385622026

Thanks for answer my question, but that the question of thread, some anons were mistaking fiction with some theories of sciences with fiction with science

>>385621248
A good example of hard sci-fi is the titular Mass Effect in Mass Effect 1. The central premise is just that there's a way to reduce the mass of objects, and all of the other tech in the series is based on this.

FTL travel, "shields", manufacturing techniques, it's all due to being able to adjust the mass of objects really fast. Even their computers are faster because of lowering the mass being a useful way to achieve superconductivity.

>>385621763
>it has to adhere to what we know about physics.
we don't know about any ways to travel at superluminal speeds with our current level of science and engineering.
you cannot adhere to something which doesn't exist, thus FTL can run on orphan tears as long as modern scientific understanding is not violated.

before you say that "FTL is scientifically impossible", I will say "FTL is impossible with our current scientific understanding"

>>385622026
>dreadfully boring, painfully modern

high-technology spaceflight from the 60's is literally more advanced than what is being used now.

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>>385622270
That isn't hard sci-fi because the mass effect is literal magic.

>>385621860
the anon he is responding to also described every World War II fiction

>>385621860
The concern is the eternal "Why didn't they just x?" that plagues poor writing. With sci-fi, you have this phenomenon not only from literary devices but from the technology you introduce into the setting. If that technology doesnt follow explained, consistent rules, anything is possible, intended by the writer or not.

To address your "read a textbook, nerd" nonsense, one of the chief reasons people want hard sci-fi is that it can take understood science and apply it in interesting, fantastical ways. This requires that the reader come in with some knowledge to fully appreciate it.

You are a god damn philistine wallowing in soft sci-fi. Begone.

>>385622432
Running an electrical current through a new element is magic now?

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>>385614823

>>385622507
Yeah, it is when that super special element lets you control the mass of objects.

>>385616328
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherenkov_radiation

>>385616292
Those are railguns. Plus expanse still has magic fusion power, so they can accelerate at 20gees for as long as they want lol. The author of the books when asked what the engines run on said "efficiency" to troll his fans. Magic fusion could power whatever laser you want.

>>385621860
>Explaining how stuff works just gets in the way.

No, you just need to explain it elegantly, like everything else you do in a good piece of fiction. When William Gibson calls Molly's pistol a 'flechette pistol' and describes from its first usage the micro-explosions it creates, the reader learns pretty well what it is and has a broad idea about how it works.

>>385612949

Normies wouldn't be interested in it. It requires them to think about things other than Stacey's asshole/Chad's cock and there might be boring talking parts where people explain the science behind the science fiction and that's not a big, multi-billion dollar action scene with lots of special effects.

>>385621860
Jules Verne's stuff wasn't THAT bad desu

>>385622646
>Stacey's asshole/Chad's cock
>>>/r9k/

'member kids, death o the incels

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>>385622382
I know but I was comparing the space shuttle to the Delta Glider and other Orbiter vehicles that are more advanced, futuristic designs but based in hard-science limitations and realism for the most part.

In that they are for the most part technically feasible with todays technology

>>385622560
That's not faster than light other than in semantics

>>385622547
>>385622507
eezo isn't an actual chemical element
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/7.342443-Fans-Tear-New-Mass-Effect-Book-to-Shreds?page=3#13796155

>>385616328
>Nothing can go faster than light. Light tries, it's just not able.
what about that quantum entanglement thingy

>>385615987
The Expanse, the show in the op, has no FTL travel.

HOWEVER it stops being hard sci-fi in book 3 when they get a teleport gate and intelligent aliens.

>>385622478
>anything is possible, intended by the writer or not.
On that note, consider a fantasy novel in which magic is a thing, and power levels and what is possible within that magical system is suggested contextually by what the characters (protagonists and antagonists) do. Then suddenly a character breaks out a whole 'nother power level for some deus ex machina in order for the story to progress. That's some god damn bullshit.

>>385621590

Given it doesn't even discolour the stuff behind the thing he's cutting up, I'm assuming about 4 inches.

>>385622802
The teleport gate is growing right now on Venus in the series

>>385622632
Gibson's fiction is exactly what that anon talks about, though. The relationship of human and technology. There's no explanation how cyberspace works, but we see how it affects the society.

>>385622646
You sound very smart.

>>385622876
>There's no explanation how cyberspace works

Just enough for you to know it's feasible, which is the important part. Even the name is an explanation.

>>385622632
>Neuromancer
I wish they'd make a movie but I know they'd ruin it.

>>385615783
>he's drunk and bored
Oh, well that makes it all okay.

>>385622432
ALRIGHT FAGGOT LETS GET THIS SHIT STRAIGHT.

There are multiple ways of thinking on this matter, just as there is high and low fantasy. Have a quote from wikipedia.

"There is a degree of flexibility in how far from "real science" a story can stray before it leaves the realm of hard SF.[10] Some authors scrupulously avoid such technology as faster-than-light travel, while others accept such notions (sometimes referred to as "enabling devices", since they allow the story to take place)[11] but focus on realistically depicting the worlds that such a technology might make possible."

YOUR ARBITRARY RESTRICTION IS NOT EMBRACED BY THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE. STOP ENFORCING IT.

>>385622802
I only read the first book but I could not handle the main protagonist (Miller was good tho) and the shift in tones where he just introduces VOMIT ZOMBIES.

From your spoiler I assume it does not improve.

>>385623017
When Gibson first read one of his Sprawl stories to his contemporaries, pretty much nobody understood what cyberspace is. "Is it real? Is it like a dream?" Today we read Neuromancer and we get that it's a fancy GUI for fantasy Internet. Which is honestly very amazing when you actually think about it.

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>>385623048
Starring Kevin Hart as Case and Gal Gadot as Molly

>>385622478
>>385622820
Damn you have no imagination. Its just like the tired argument "hurr why didnt they just fly the eaglez to more door" its because the Eagles as described in the book have their own agency and their own shit to take care of and don't exist as plot devices but living creatures who fear the fell beasts, and just because it would be most convenient for them to do it9 doesnt mean they will agree to it, likewise those who argue that miss the entire point of LotR being a very human story, all its morals and great inspiring moments and the entire core of the story would be swept aside if they just took the Eagles to Mordor.

Likewise, the Deus Ex machina thing you mention, you lack the context and the character motivations, maybe he was learning how to increase his magic power in secret for years and a combination of events led to it finally being unleashed and his hard work and effort paid off. Its a little silly to complain about that, its like comparing those of us who cna only hold our breath underwater for a minute like the average person and those freedivers who train for years to hold their breath underwater for up to 8 or more minutes, do we suddenly call that bullshit because the vast majority of us aren't dedicating the time and effort to learn to do it?

>>385622547
Uh huh. And would you say that a technology that manipulates the Higgs field in order to achieve the exact same result is magic?

>>385622721
You know, now that I think about it, 20000 Leagues under the Sea reads like a tourist guide of an underwater world.
>"Wow, look at this thing!"
>"Whoa, look at that thing!".

>>385622795
That's just information being transferred instantaneously by linking two particles, so once you make a change to one, the other is also changed instantaneously, i.e. faster than light would be able to transfer said information.

>>385623303
>"any technology advanced enough becomes indistinguishable from magic etc etc something something"

>>385623364
Well, it also is "electricity is amazing" and "fuck Britain". Though originally it was supposed to be "fuck Russia!".

>>385623391
FTL information transfer is still FTL

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>>385622560

>that fucking glow

For some reason it's scaring the living shit out of me

>>385623303
Feasibility isn't black and white but here there is no feasible option, there is nothing that lets you manipulate mass this way

Even FTL travel by fiddling with spacetime is more feasible

>>385623391
Sorry, ansibles can't into real.
Long story short, the way you can get info out of it is by getting the two users to meet and examine each other results for what the ansible spat out. This means the communication is ultimately restricted by the speed of light.

>>385623260
You can imagine things while explaining them, anon. You even explain them in clever, subtle ways, through the magic of "show, don't tell" that is taught in freshman fucking English.

>>385618476
I feel my heart bleeding by just thinking of how great it could have been.

>>385622026
>EM Drive
Did anything come out of it? Or was it proven to be a hoax/misreadings?

>>385622507
>what is eezo
>what is biotics
>What is laser guns, FTL flight, non-rotational artificial gravity, terraforming, aliens, literally Mass Effect fields, and a million other things in the lore

Mass Effect is one of the least hard sci-fi sci-fi series out there.

>>385623503
>For some reason it's scaring the living shit out of me
Really? I think it's cool as heck

>>385623514
This. You still need a classical channel in quantum entanglement.

>>385623545
China is really interested in it so we'll know once they test it in space, or NASA, whichever get a small EM drive craft up to space first

>>385623472
That's why it's considered "teleportation" of information, even though we are talking about one specific type of particle that would have no use in ftl travel technology. It's still good for computers though.

>>385623303
>"Would you say a spell that manipulates the Ley lines in order to alter the mana is magic?"
>"Would you say an X that manipulates Y in order to do Z is V?"
>"Would you say a technology that manipulates the Higgs field in order to alter mass is magic?"

Just because you use science-related words and concepts doesn't make it any less magic. Outlandish fantastical technology like that is the same as magic, yes.

>>385616913
Yeah totally. I was really disappointed with the writing in the show.

>>385623606
So that means NASA.
Mostly because if the thing works the chinks will remain hush-hush about it and say it's bogus
If it doesn't then they will say "yess wittu piggu, EM drive works, go buird grorious rocket, e sure to spend rots of currency in it's construction, hehehehe"

>>385623514
This is only relevant for tests though, if we ever need to create a communication channel between say, solar systems or galaxies we can use quantum entanglement, if it proves to be reliable.


Also imagine the null latency on games using that.

>>385618476
The wasted potential of the ME universe is fucking criminal, they fucking ruined a good universe and setting, just to appeal more to casuals and cowadoody fags and SJW's, all the great things about it in ME1 were retconned out or took a backseat to casual and generic cliche elements found in most games of the time in the sequels and they gave Andromeda to some chucklefuck B team that ruined the series name for good. Tone, artstyle, music and atmosphere also changed for the worse.

Its such a fucking shame, its a good scifi universe, I think a reboot is in order, just forget everything that happened after ME1 and start over.

>>385622367
>FTL is impossible with our current scientific understanding
By that logic I can have magic space unicorns and still call it hard sci-fi because magic space unifcorns aren't impossible, just impossible with our currency scientific understanding.

>>385623503
Probably because you know if you were to get close to it you would die.

>>385623853
>a good universe and setting
>one of the alien spieces is hot blue not-twilek babes that are only female and will fuck any alien male for their sperm
it was already trash

>>385619264
Theres an american destroyer in the gulf right now with a laser anti-missile/air weapon onboard for testing purposes

>>385622961

You sound like a passive aggressive faggot.

>>385623504
Fiddling with space time is backed by the alcubierre drive with physically sound theory. It has recently been proven that mass is given to objects by the Higgs field. Granted whether that field or its elementary particle can be manipulated is currently unknown, but it is not unreasonable for it to be taken as a premise in science fiction - it is based in understood physics.

>>385623690
>science-related words and concepts
We're talking about science fiction, anon. If the mechanism by which the technology works is explained, it ain't fucking magic.

>>385623949
No that was one of the good things, its like classic pulp scifi, and then they listened to those who bitched and made Asari progressively uglier leading to ME Andromeda tier Asari.

>>385623960
I thought the ones that had been mounted in the navy were so large as to only be aimable by adjusting the ship itself? ie for testing against surface targets

>>385622795
Quantum entanglement cannot be used to communicate information

It's funny how much of the universe seems hell-bent on preserving the speed of light limit, which is really just a universal velocity limit which light happens to automatically meet. It's almost like someone was running some big bang simulations in their 12th-dimension garage and they found out your universe needs a speed limit that prevents intersolar travel or else the first species of intelligent life will just kill all the other ones before they have a chance, making the simulation really boring

Humanity is really bummed about the speed limit but it's probably the only reason our planet wasn't stripmined for heavy elements a billion years ago and left a husk

>>385624081
https://futurism.com/the-worlds-first-functional-laser-weapon-is-ready-to-protect-you/

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>>385624081
What are you smoking

>>385619125
>What happens if he takes five steps back?
Optics happen.
It's not a problem unless you think adding automatic lenses to things is a challenge.

>>385623837
>if we ever need to create a communication channel between say, solar systems or galaxies we can use quantum entanglement, if it proves to be reliable.
I said that it's impossible not even 5 minutes ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_4l5_G3dnM
http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/fasterlight.php/index.html#id--FTL_Communication--Quantum_Entanglement

>>385624081
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_Weapon_System
Seems to be able to shoot down small aircraft.

>>385621869
It's mostly political intrigue. There's a war going on, but most of the book deals with the resulting refugee crisis.

>>385624327
I see.

>>385624297
Fug, the projectrho page linked wrong
Let's try this instead
http://projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/fasterlight.php/section_id--FTL_Communication--Quantum_Entanglement

>>385624297
People always say things are impossible before they become reality. See: circumnavigation, cars, planes, space travel, landing on the moon, personal computers, sending probes out of the solar system, and it'll keep going on and on, right through your inability to see that there is ever more on the horizon.

>>385612949
Because actually researching what the fuck you're talking about takes time and effort and people would rather gurgle easy-to-consume shit every year

>>385618338
No, he has done the math. The power that reaches the target is barely 0.01% of the initial power due to the various optical effects. And that is not an ablative material. Look at the shuttle heatshield.

>>385624554
This, I'm gonna be laughing at all the "muh realism, muh hard-limits" fags when humanity achieves its first FTL flight.

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>>385612949
>The Expanase
>Hard scifi
I don't think you know what that term means, The Expanse is not hard sci fi.

>>385624105
>Quantum entanglement cannot be used to communicate information
Yes it can, just not faster than light.

>>385623980

>Fiddling with space time is backed by the alcubierre drive with physically sound theory

There's however one BIG problem with this theory. The spaceship (or any object) moving inside "alcubierre bubble" is completely cut off and isolated from the time and space outside of it. For the people inside, there will be no way to check how far they are traveled, how much time passed in "normal" space, if they are still on course, etc. Alcubierre drive will be borderline suicidal technology, because there are no way to control it in terms of moving through the material universe (and never be, unless we are missing some very fundamental laws of physics)

>>385622270
>game has actual spellcasting wizards as a character class
>"hard sci-fi"
About as hard as Space Station 13

>>385624554
Short story: NO
Long story: unless you want to prove all of modern physics wrong, on top of enabling stuff like time travel, and on top of, you know, FUCKING WITH THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF CAUSALITY, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE EFFECT-FOLLOWS-THE-CAUSE THING then NO. FTL. IS. NOT. POSSIBLE.
>Relativity
>Causality
>FTL
Pick two

>>385624630
I doubt you'll be able to laugh while being long dead, or that you'll have any offspring that will exist and/or care about your shitposting history and grudge/promises you won't pass down to them

>>385612949
>Why isn't hard sci fi more popular?

Because its always the same shit

>>385624630
You won't be alive when that happens.

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>>385623905
>By that logic I can have magic space unicorns and still call it hard sci-fi because magic space unifcorns aren't impossible
It actually is not possible for space unicorns to come into being through natural evolutionary genesis since deep space lacks easily accessible or sufficiently localized energy gradient phenomena.

However, nothing stops these space unicorns from being aftifictially bred by a an ancient civilization as a more life-like form of Von Neumann probes. They make plant-like unicorns to live on asteroids and covert the asteroid dust into usable things. Herbivore unicorns will roam the asteroids and eat those plant-unicorns. Carnivorous unicorns will then hunt and eat herbivore unicorns/ They give them FTL capability so that the entire galaxy is their oyster. This ancient civilization is then mysteriously whiped out. Those space unicorns do their animal thing of evolving and spreading to new fertile locations.

Eventually they reach Sol. Humans discover these space beasts. They see that these beasts can FTL between stars easily. Humans themselves are still too primitive to understand how they can do that, so they just domesticate those beasts and simply ride them from star to star.

----

There you have it - hard SF magic unicorn cowboys in space. Pic kinda related.

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>wanting lasers over this bad boy

>>385624736
>Alcubierre drive will be borderline suicidal technology
It has to be better than opening a literal portal to Hell and traveling through that.

I wish Halo and Alien got more spinoffs because the universes in both are very near-future compared to everything else.

Before the forerunner shit and the covenant all the tech in Halo was pretty much shit we have now.

>>385624894
>GoW Lancer prototype

>>385624772
This sperging out only further proves your mental limitations.

>>385622857
I stopped watched after 2.2 in the show

>>385624736
Every depiction of it in fiction involves plotting a course and some instance of using it without plotting in an emergency and someone saying "That's suicide!"

If it can be built and it is sufficiently understood, it should be possible to plot a course and run it within parameters for a specified time. Though, if something goes wrong while in use you are indeed pretty fucked.

>>385624736
>>385624972
Not only, unless you do very short jumps is also a homicidal (omnicidal?) technology.
Long story short, the bubble picks up lots of charged particles and stuff, one you stop the stuff it picked up will be flung in front of the craft, thus announcing your arrival with a planets (multiple) sterilizing radiation shotgun

>>385624998
The simple fact we are not receiving time travellers daily and being offered joyrides to Ancient Rome with the fucking Doctor means FTL is not possible.
As i said:
Relativity
Causality
FTL
Pick any two.

>>385624554
>>385624998
This is why you don't argue with brainlets, their knowledge of the world comes from media and they think "rules exist to be broken" is a valid way of thinking in physics.

>>385612949
Because it's boring as shit and not conductive to a videogame. It's like how medieval era shit isn't as popular as medieval fantasy.

>no dragons
>no monsters
>no fantasy races
>no magic
>limited armor and enemy variety

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>alien race is just one single culture with one single set of customs and norms, instead of being a bunch of different cultures like earth
This shit bugs me. Has any sci-fi not done this?

>>385625428
Those strange beings living in Sol-3 do it.

>>385625428
Hasn't ME and Halo done that atleast?

>>385625428

I consider something like this

>the nazis won and the erase all cultures but their own, without any obstacles, they eventually expand into space and shit.

>>385625550
They both have collectives of different alien species, but what I mean is that each of those species isn't multi-cultural. All the turians have the same culture, all the asari have the same culture, all the elcor have the same culture, when surely those species had tons of different countries and regions and beliefs and practices before entering space, but the instant they get a rocket ship working they all just congeal into a single group.

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Because you have to map shit out ahead of time, and it gets very hard to find new things to do eventually, or new hands get to work on it and fuck it up. Just look at Halo now, half the shit they are doing thanks to the Forerunners is basically magic. Even the Human weapons have become generic "futuristic" shit. I'm still mad about what they did to the ammo counter on the Halo 5 battle rifle.

>>385625550
Halo has, ME not so much. Halo has multiple different cultures within the Jackals for example. All the ME races are pretty much just one big singular culture.

>>385625428
I would say that those races are far older than humans and have had time to homogenize (with description of their past being irrelevant to the narrative and not worth elaborating), but the same thing is often found with newly discovered races in various settings. It would be plausible that they evolved in a more centralized fashion on their planets instead of being spread out into countless separate groups, but not by such a large majority.

>>385625747
Good writing is haaaaard.
Plus is hard because it's intentionally made so by the patriarchy in order to enforce their unrealistic standards and expectations and keep wyminz out of the hobby, we will revolt against this marginalization of normalized binary colonialism oppression. #womenwrite #fuckthepatriarchy #diecisscum

I should really start learning SJWese, i feel my baits are lacking

>>385624894

>optics on something that is supose to be used in short range
>fucking gallore of moving mechanical parts that will break from wear & tear
>open magazine and shitload of jutted edges that will collect metric fucktons of dirt and will be catching on everything on the battlefield
>heavy moving elements in front, creating fucking massive lever arm and shitting directly into weapon balance

This is not any less retarded that fucking magic sword made from cotton candy and shooting flaming unicorn farts that smell valerian and anise

>>385626021
It's almost like Warhammer is fucking retarded.

>>385626021
It's wielded by a 10 foot tall genetically modified superhuman in power armor that has been trained it's whole life to kill shit so it's ok.

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>>385622432
>>385622507
I like it when a setting is hard aside from one fantasy element that they introduce, like faster than light travel or the mass effect.

Mass Effect has several elements like that like biotics, holograms you can touch, element zero, and FTL; but at least it's all mostly tied together.

>>385612949
Because you will need to hire the entire NASA to make a world building and assure no laws of physic is broken and build the story completely obeying those laws.

But that does not guarantee you are not breaking an law you don't know it exists.

>>385625290
btw whats up with the causality thing - explain

as much as I have seen it explained, it is described as spaceship being able to see its departure or even see a copy of itself go backwards in time. And those explainers then pass it off as a proof that FTL will break reality.

However, reality is not broken when a jet plane reaches its destination and the further away sound catches up a dosen seconds later creating an illusion that there is another jet plane who is flying away.

So, whats the deal with causality?

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>>385625428

I'd love exploring settings where cultures are at more odds, or otherwise completely incompatible with eachother while also being composed of a variety of races, which might have different backgrounds etc.

Mandalorians from the Star Wars universe would be a good example, but their development in the series proper has kind of waned quite a bit, although their culture was pretty well fleshed out.

Generally would like to see more cultures that would just be completely bizarre or different in comparison to human models or other comparisons.

>>385623584
>>385623503
Scary things tend to be cool.

>>385624680
Yes it is.

>>385626021
>>optics on something that is suppose to be used in short range

They're less about range and more about additional sensors and readouts that wouldn't fit in the helmet.

>>385625291
spoken like a true 18th century scientist

I suppose you also think that extra terrestrial life is also impossible.

>>385625428
It's all relative, dumb dumb. China is all one culture relative to a Westerner.

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Because writing good hard sci-fi is about as hard as making a good time travel story.

>>385626241
It is a consequence of relativity/time dilation that something moving faster than light will go backwards in time. The speed of sound is not a valid analogy (in this case).

>>385612949
That's a retarded clip.

>>385626454
>clip

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>>385626397
Who needs a story when you have a great, immersive setting?

>>385625428
think of it like that

>you just see a group of aliens
>they likely live in the same city to be able work together

>>385626318
I mean, yeah, aside from the post singularity aliens. But then again post singularity anything will look like magic to us.

>>385620990
buttblasted brainlet kek

>>385612949
That was literally the most retarded thing I've ever seen.

>>385626731
Post Venus getting PROTOED.

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>>385626197
>Because you will need to hire the entire NASA to make a world building and assure no laws of physic is broken and build the story completely obeying those laws.
Just go to projectrho m8

>>385626241
With causality
>Cause->effect
Without causality
>Effect->cause
Or other effect->cause or effect->effect or nothing->effect or cause->nothing
It quickly becomes a clusterfuck.

Also, the speed of sound is the speed of sound, the speed of light is the speed of causality itself. There is nothing that goes faster, it's literally the maximum speed of information. If you go FTL then you arrive before the information of your departure arrives.
Not to mention the whole time dilation effects, as you go faster time slows down for you, if you are a photon (you move at light speed) then, for outside observers, your time is frozen, you are not aging, not even one bit, most likely the photon sees the entirety of the life of the universe happen in a single instant.

Heck, the formula that defines this (pic related) ends up with a imaginary number at the denominator if your speeds exceed that of light, what does something divided by a imaginary number looks like? We have no freaking idea but sure it won't look pretty.

>>385626731
>>385626598
>>385626503

Why is Alex the best character?

ISIS has spaceships now?
WE ARE FUCKED

>>385625995
> i feel my baits are lacking
Why even do that at all? It's a relatively good thread, why would you shit it up?

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>>385626876
?

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>>385626831
>>385620990
Brainlets, I swear.

>>385626998
That mulatto chick is so freaking hot.

>>385627005
>DUDE LOW GRAVITY XD

Off yourself scientifically.

>>385626951
Because my baits are shit.
If i can see that i cause some destabilization in a thread it means i can graduate to go and try to kill garbage threads.
And if i can kill garbage threads then i can go and troll /pol/ (both sides of it)

>reading Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora

Now that's quality hard science fiction, it's a great book and I'd recommend it to any science fiction fan.
It starts out pretty slow but quickly becomes great

>>385627094
Kill yourself

>>385626167
Femshep looks so qt here

>>385627202
>being this much of autist that you can't have fun even while drunk
I feel sad for you and anyone around you for a prolonged period of time.

>>385627094
inorite?

I want to feel my fingers bury themselves in her hair and work her head deep down onto my shaft.

>>385626894
Don't forget to hire psychologists or sociologist to know the impact on society of certain technologies if it becomes real.
Because Hard sci-fi is futurology, or at least it should be.

>>385626423
but what about FTL where you don't traverse the actual space between origin and destination - instead use one of the roundabout ways
>infinitesimal teleportation jumps through space causing the ship to effectively traverse space faster than light even though the ship itself has no velocity vector besides the vector with which it was at "rest" with its origin
>enter a sister universe which is tied to the regular universe where distance ratio differs
>wrap oneself in spacetime bubble
>wormholes
>etc

in these, nothing travels along the space time faster than light, so there is no time dialation effect which might go into negative.

how does causality apply to these?

>>385626197
>implying physics is hard
You know you can just read what others have found out studying the world, right?

>>385627308
I can't enjoy this. The scale is horrible in that first shot.

>>385626894
>what does something divided by a imaginary number looks like? We have no freaking idea but sure it won't look pretty.
1/i = -i, you goober. The relative time is simply imaginary. Take a cue from anywhere else that imaginary numbers arise in physics and you'll know that it simply isn't measurable. It isn't ugly - just unknown.

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>>385625290
Do you really think humans are going to give up before they find a workaround for that? Like, come on man, we are humans, our entire existence is based on breaking and fucking shit better than any other species. I'm not saying it'll be warp travel, but humans will figure out a way to get to other star systems in a single lifetime and put our penises in sentient aliens. We crave it.

>>385627094
I thought it was a guy at first, what is wrong with you, how can you call something like that hot?

>>385627669
he drank tap water in the US

Daily reminder Naomi is a slut, Bobbie is a cunt, Amos is basically a robot, Holden is a lucky retard and Alex is the best

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>>385626197
And you can hire as many physicists as you want but it doesn't mean anything if you don't listen to them.

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I need to finish S2. Is S3 confirmed?

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UN fags fuck off, nothing but a bunch of corrupt degenerates

Mars4Life

>>385627669
I'd berate you but I don't feel right making fun of the blind.

>>385627894
Yes

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>>385627894
Yes

>>385627217
That's the most fucked up justification of shitposting I've ever heard.

>>385627923
>part of the planet's complex is a giant skull
I love 40k, if only for how silly it can get

>>385627818
But the physicist was forced to make the decision in Sunshine.

>>385627923

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>>385628001
Is it ever revealed what the blonde woman on the Canterbury's secret was?

>>385612949
"Epstein" drives that sustain 10g acceleration all across the solar system and alien proto-molecules and jumpgates around the galaxy aren't exactly hard sci-fi.

>>385628020
A man gotta eat

>>385626894
> If you go FTL then you arrive before the information of your departure arrives.
why is it important that the information of departure arrives before arrival?

>>385627605
Yes it is. And should be because you should not ignore any laws of it.
If you ignore even only ONE of it, it becomes science fantasy, not fiction.
Because fiction is supposed to be something what could happen in real life.
I am the one who only consumes it but I defend the idea that only the ones who did an graduation on at least quantum physics should try to make hard sci-fi.

>>385627818
I agree. That's why I believe no hard sci-fi was ever made.
What does guarantee no law was broken?

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>>385628064

something something tip of the iceberg blah blah blah

>>385615347
Yes but now thanks to movies and shows like Gravity the Martian and the Expanse, not to mention "Geek culture", we are going to see more of it.

>>385627904
Isn't thrusting like that basically shooting a beam of radiation at the space station?

Also would being in a ship be a problem given how many neutrinos are being created by the fusion reaction? Sure, most pass through, but there is such a thing as neutron bloating or whatever where materials degrade near nuclear reactions because atoms gradually get knocked out of place. That can't be good for the body.

>>385628158
Just start trap, furry or BLACKED posting. Not very dynamic or fun, but it works.
Kill yourself.

>>385628268
>I agree. That's why I believe no hard sci-fi was ever made.
>What does guarantee no law was broken?
I know you are being ironic, but come on.

>>385628172
Other than the fact it's time travel?
There are videos that explain this stuff better than i can.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msVuCEs8Ydo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUMGc8hEkpc

>>385628073
He didn't make any decision. That's the problem. They ignored everything he said.

>>385625428

ironically some vida is doing this. To some extend it was in first StarCraft (various Protoss tribes with very different approach to each other and to the rest of the world). There were also some pretty old UFO game in which pivoting part of the story was you discovering that aliums that invaded Earth are become deeply divided about what to do with humans and our planet because of their different cultural, morals and beliefs and started fighting between each other.

>>385627923

Kind of like in Infinite Warfare where the Martians were technically the good guys save for that one edgelord ship captain and managed to shit on the Earth military despite being outnumbered like 10-1 before they mary sue player character arrived.

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I never asked for this.

>>385626167
>holograms you can touch
Mass Effect doesn't have that. Computers and Omnitools project a hologram but you need implants in your fingertips to be able to 'use' them. You're just jamming your fingers through a fancy torch otherwise

>>385628461
rip Adam Jensen

>>385628318
Eeh, there is more plausible deniability in SJW-posting (mostly because i ended up with the only ISP that gives only static IPs and makes you pay extra for dynamic ones)
Plus that stuff is quite tame or quite transparent that is trolling.

>>385612949
>Scope

>>385628408
It's been a while since I watched it but wasnt he indecisive on account of the odds of the both payload working and safely altering course being unknown? Wasnt the decision made to improve the odds of the payload succeeding, consistent with his concerns?

>>385628421
>There were also some pretty old UFO game
The UFO: Afterblank series

The Reticulans who destroy Earth and most of the human race with spores that cover the planet in mutagenic biomatter are basically a religious cult trying to "grow" a planet sized super-intelligence. They blow up the stargate between Earth and their homeworld to delay the more level headed military from stopping them.

>>385628681
These webms get posted in every sci-fi thread and I watch them all everytime.

>Why isn't hard sci fi more popular?
because it doesn't make a good game by itself you literal retard

>>385628268
>an graduation on at least quantum physics
What the fuck does that even mean? An engineer who takes a couple physics electives should have a sufficient understanding.

>>385628461
>watched the season finale as it aired
>tweeted him his character should have said I never asked for this before getting AYY LMAOed
>he replied and retweeted it
>my twitter erupts

Glad he appreciated that

>>385621135
What's the point of Sci-fi if you're going to limit the technology advances so much. I don't want to watch the epic adventure of the six-man crew who spend 200 years travelling in their space rocket to colonise a rock planet only to die of age halfway through the journey whilst they were using their phones with 12 hours of battery life.

>>385628821
Aftershock had a ridiculously bizarre story.
>giant alien creatures that reproduce by pretending to be spaceships, brainwashing sentient races, forcing them to turn entire planets in biomass which then dies creating some kind of psi-echo that serves as these creatures' mating call
what

>>385623154
The awesome thing about that is that Gibson saw what effect computer networks being used by corporations was having and how fast it was transforming every aspect of life. Most obviously by banks to assess a person/business credit worthiness entirely automatically by connecting every bit of data available and crunching those numbers, and then he simply extrapolated it just a bit further into the future, but knowing or speculating full well how this would transform and further concentrate power and wealth. Making Cyberspace an almost physical place where a hacker's brain could literally be fried was another touch of genius, but the meat of his fiction was deeply rooted in the reality he saw unfolding.

>>385615934
Only two seasons out, book series is gonna be 9 books so nowhere near.

>>385628959
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare made it work.

>>385615730
>tfw most of the tall girl doujin's feature short guys
Thats cheating and they know it

>>385618132
Yes I expected a more sympathetic portrayal but it seems like most belters are all-out douchebags.

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>>385612949
the expanse is what normies think is realistic. the ships don't even have whiffle shields or large enough radiators. pic related is what an actual realistic space ship would look like.

>>385629134
Floating aircraft carriers wasn't exactly accurate

>>385629090
>in the reality he saw unfolding
The beauty of it is that IIRC he wasn't big at computers or networks even of that age. He cites Sony Walkman as one of his inspirations, because it allowed him to have sort of his own world on the go, even if only an audio one. He also recalls his first experiences of seeing a TV, etc.

>>385617475
>Issac Arthur
My nigga

>>385628404
>Other than the fact it's time travel?
yea, other than that
since travelling through the raw space-time with brute strength is already made impossible by the fact that one will have to be able to survive a planet worth of superluminal collisions with interstellar wind, stellar wind, dust particles and asteroids along the path.

if one would be able to push oneself to a speed over C, then one still has to make oneself indestructible to such forces.

however if one uses one of the FTL travel means that modern SF employs, then the v(actual) formulas stop making sense since no space-time is traversed and it becomes v(regular universe average).

how would causality apply in this case?

btw I have seen those vids already

>>385629229
Ship designs with a long pole as a spine irk me for the limitation placed on angular acceleration.

>>385628363
We still don't know the entire law of physics, specially the quantum one.
How we make an fiction, something what could happen, if it were proven wrong 20 or 100 years later because new discovery over law of physics?
We will not have real Sci-Fi until we get total knowledge over law of physics.

>>385629330
Ships float you moron, what do you expect them to do? I know what you mean, I just had to do it.
I think it's far less of a crime than FTL,
space magic and mechs.

>>385628506
You can literally stab people with the holograms.

>>385628681
>>385628809

>Object with weight of hundreds of tones starting to rotat with angular velocity of tens of degrees/sec
>and then just stoping dead

because inertia is something that happens to others