Are you having fun in destiny 2 beta?

>>384721315
Is the beta on pc?

>>384721315
>retards will actually buy this game
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHA

>>384721747

>Not getting it for free with WoW gold.

wew lad

>>384721315
Yes. The PVP is actually really fun.

The changes to ammo economy and the weapon slot changes looks like we might have chance of a decent meta this time round.

Bungie had better sort out ammo drops in PvE before release though. The strike is no fun to play because you're constantly running out of ammo for both your primary and energy weapon.

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no because im on pc

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REMINDER

DO NOT PREORDER FROM BEST BUY AND THEN CANCEL THEY WILL CHARGE YOU FULL PRICE FOR THE GAME FOR BREACHING TOS

>>384722790
That's the same shit that happened with the first game when it came out.

>>384722790
In their weekly update yesterday, they say they have changed it already and that the way ammo drops in PvE for this build is a bit old. Now let's see if they change ability charge rates before full release.

>0.34 efficiency

>>384723046
The beta is out for all public you absolute mong

Played it for like an hour, thank fuck i didn't order this on a console, it plays like shit. Just gonna wait for PC release where is doesn't make me sick to look at.

>>384721315
>Buying this AGAIN

FuuuuUUUCK NO

Daily reminder if you do not like Destiny it's because you are entitled, spoiled and toxic.

is PS+ needed?

>>384721315
>nerfed everything to cater to PVPfags
>doesn't even have dedicated servers
If it weren't for Mass Effect this would have been a strong contender for blunder of the year

>>384725485
Nice reminder for future video game betas.

>>384725906

Yep

>>384725906
Yes

>>384721315
>needs PS+

I wouldn't know

>>384726326
>>384726345
what about for just the campaign mission?

Downloading right now.

5v5 is gonna be in the actual game, right?

>>384726326
>>384726345

Wait can you not even so the single player part without it?

>>384721683

Not until next month.

>>384726453

Campaign missions would be fine. I don't know why you'd buy the game just for that though. The whole point of the game is character progression and loot. You're not going to get any decent drops in campaign missions

>>384723046
>DO NOT PREORDER

ftfy

>>384723046

I've worked for best buy for 3 years. You won't get charged. Pre-orders can be cancelled even if you redeem the beta.

>>384726471

All PvP is gonna be 4v4 i believe they said.

>>384721813
You mean by selling WoW gold? So by having a job and buying it then

>>384726647
What the fuck? Why are there so many regressions from the first game?

>>384726696

No you can use WoW tokens to buy stuff off of the Blizzard store including games. Use gold you earn in WoW to buy tokens.

>>384721315
There's already threads popping up saying its shit, I'll just have to see after the reviews come out.

>>384726646
>>384726624
http://thisgengaming.com/2017/07/20/best-buy-are-charging-customers-who-cancelled-their-destiny-2-pre-order-after-getting-the-beta-code/

It's literally the exact same as Destiny 1.

>>384723046
Charge me how? I'm not giving them my credit card lol

>>384721315
It's my first time playing a console shooter in...forever, but, are controls usually this shitty? How the fuck do I aim? Also I picked the red/white knight looking dude and apparently it's the worst choice because no one else picked that one.

never cared about destiny but someone showed me the trailer

is the dialogue written by the people from borderlands? serious question

>>384726593
yeah when I saw the 11 GB download I deleted it. not even worth the bandwith just for a short mission.

>>384727402
people are saying it's like 1 but worse

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>>384727229
pretty much it feels like the same EXACT thing, I dont expect any drastic changes but it literally comes off as something that could be a DLC, its still pretty fun despite this though, theres not much in the beta though, we've pretty much seen it all in the first destiny

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>>384723046
>>384725485
>people pre ordered just to get early access to literally three activities and watered down and slow charging super abilities
>when downloading from the Japanese PS store gets you early access regardless of a code
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0D-FeoIf71o

>>384727530
>halo writing has a goofy charm to it, which everyone loves
>joe staten gets fired from bungie and his work on destiny is thrown out the window
>destiny 1 is rewritten to be super-duper serious and intense
>no one likes it
>destiny 2 they go all-out reddit humor to try and attract more normies

true story

>battle net

lol. pirating

The only reason I'm not getting this game is due to them catering to MLG fags with the removal of Titan Skating. Fuck it feels so pathetic now.

I can't bring myself to replay the Strike because of the snarky Failsafe AI. I dont know why but she irritates the shit out of me.

>>384727906
why was he fired

>>384728069
Because it's a sarcastic hipster 20 something girl you know the exact demo of this game.

All I've played was the PVP, and I enjoyed it because of how balanced it is now. Only downfall apparently is the PVP balance change fucks up the PVE gameplay.

Best thing about Destiny 1 was the PVE and now they fucked it up

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>>384726453
You can do the one story mission but not the strike or the crucible

>>384728151
He refused to change the story and break up the completed game into DLC so activision forced Bungie to fire him then rewrite the story and cut it for DLC marketed as "expansions"

>>384728419
oh

>>384728419
You are going to get one fanboy autist attacking you for saying this any second now FYI.

>>384728547
No he wont shut up faggot

Bullet sponge enemies are always a terrible idea. Barely feels like you're dealing damage.

>>384722790
Their solution for power ammo seems to be having certain enemies have a 100% chance of dropping purple bricks. That will go a long way to fixing issues even Destiny 1 had during extended encounters.

>>384721813
>not getting it free with your new nvidia card

>>384727545
>people are saying it's like 1 but worse

It needs some minor adjustments but it strikes me as better than Destiny 1 in pretty much every way.

>>384726471
8v8 big team battle with vehicles, and rumble are planned but not going to be in the game at launch.

>>384728702
Yes he will. Just go to /dg/ and say what he just said and watch the trigger autism flow.

>>384728419
>>384728151
He wasn't fired, he quit. He had actually been planning to leave after Destiny shipped, but left early after his original script was canned to be redone from scratch.

>>384728840
>combined arms

Hope it's not as much of a joke in this one.

>no rumble on launch

That's just laziness.

>>384728995
Biggest issue with old combined arms was that it was 6v6 on maps that were clearly made for 8v8 or more. Just made all the games go to time, it was difficult to find anyone to shoot.

i'm having fun.

>>384721315
Having fun in the D2 beta is impossible as fun was unbalancing the PvP meta and thus had to be removed from both PvP and PvE.

it's utter shit. I can't recommend people stay away enough.

>>384721315
>having fun
With what? The beta is ~1.5 hours long. The alpha for the first game had more content.

>>384729662
>not reading his post correctly

>hunter supposed to be agile
>roll has too much recovery
>not enough distance traveled
>no iframes
>no unique melee attack
>only other agile thing are different types of jumps

Dropped it after that first mission.

>>384730315
Hunters are fucked in general, its like they went out of their way to make them the least appealing choice possible.

>>384727218
So again, having a job (grinding for gold) and exchanging for tokens rather than money

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>>384721315
Multiplayer feels unresponsive, especially with lack of dedicated.

"Skill" based matchmaking is horrible. If you're good, and the enemy team has a decent player, and two mediocre, with one shit. Odds are, all three of your allies will be shit to compensate.

Abilities feels near useless in multiplayer, save for supers (which are near immortal, apparently).

Strike was neat, like the improvement on story; however, it should've made you feel that involved back in Destiny 1.

>>384730589
What if he hadn't played WoW in years and just had the gold lying around?

>no waifus
>no husbandos
Like even bother scoobs

>>384730719
Then he still did the work, just a while back. You're not getting the tokens or destiny "for free"

>>384730757
>implying you wouldn't fuck Awoken sluts
>implying you don't want that android holodick

>>384728419
>>384727906
He wasn't fired, he quit. At least get your facts straight.

>>384730708
Voidwalker has some pretty great grenades. Vortex on a crowded point is a multi-kill every time. Scatter also has the potential to one-hit if you overcharge it and hit a single target dead on, it is basically an unnerfed Nothing Manacles scatter grenade.

>>384730589
>grinding
More like logging on once a week, spending 3 hours killing dungeon bosses and farming some materials, then making a legendary item that you can sell for about 2/3s of what a token costs

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>>384730708
And I do mean, near useless. Shoulder charge, which not only is risky to perform, but has a long-ass recovery time, does as much as an exhausted melee.

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>>384730757
>Not linking engine greased Texans with a robot leg

>>384721315
How's the loot system work?

Do you still have to identify everything you get back at the base?

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The beta really took the wind out of my sails for Destiny 2.

I'll still pick it up at launch but I don't feel like I'll end up playing it as long as I did Destiny.

>>384730983
True, Voidwalker is decent. But my God, that Nova-Bomb is so goddamned slow.

The fact that a Dawnblade's fusion grenade does as much as a melee is pathetic. Especially given the fact you have to stick it.

>>384731109
Stuff just drops, no decrypting required. Really doubt this is representative of the final game though, since there is still a cryptarch at the new social space.

>>384731198
Nova bomb is fine if you just use it up close, plus the normal vortex Nova Bomb that isn't slow can be found on the other skill block/cluster or whatever they are calling them.

>>384730708
You didn't connect retard your melee charge wasn't used.

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>>384721315
>mfw shit sucks the same dick it did 3 years ago, still the same stockholm syndrome motherfuckers going to be grinding out the same mission types they will play a thousand times not because its engaging but because they are slaves to the tiny release of serotonin that comes from "progress" and good legendary roll.
>mfw the status quo will keep going and fuckers will waste their lives on this shit and not have a single worthwhile experience and every waking minute playing this game will slough by in a denial fueled torrent of mental gymnastics to avoid buyer's remorse and the regret that comes from the grind
>mfw what could have been good vidya is lain waste to by the same suits who ruined starcraft, shit out overwatch, and wholly decimated warcraft as a franchise on a level not even your average jew could exaggerate or allude to when talking about the holocaust

tldr: same shit different financial quarter

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>>384731485
Look closer, my cotton-mouthed friend.

It in fact, does connect; the Hunter just attacked the other direction a split moment later. But it most definitely did connect.

You had this kinda thing happen all the time in Destiny 1, especially if you were a Sunsinger using Fire-Bolt grenades. Didn't happen every time, but enough to be irritating.

Once again, Bungie's shitty servers at work then, and now.

>>384731848
Weapons don't even have random rolls anymore, the original game hasn't even been remotely grindy for nearly two years. You can effortlessly get to the max gear level just doing whatever a few times a week.

>>384731996
If it connected you would lose the charge. Im sure the charge flickers every time you whiff the charge.

>Shotguns, one of the most basic weapons in any shooter, are power weapons
>Meaning that you cannot use them for any extended period of time due to power ammo being scarce

Who the fuck was behind this choice?

>>384732207
To balance PVP

>>384732321
Why can other games balance shotguns just fine without relegating them into "super speshul weapon" status?

>>384732207
Power ammo spawns every 1:30 in two locations, it really isn't that difficult to secure one and go ham with the shotgun every time if you are decent with it. The one in the beta is a low impact shotgun too, which historically in the game have always been the absolute worst for PVP.

>>384731093
>that terrible high poly baked albedo map on the tattoo
Good lord bungie

>>384732087
Which again would just point to their servers. Not the first time I've had this happen, and I by no means have a poor connection.

Flashing back to D1, if you used a Fire-Bolt grenade but had the effect to 'burn' (DOT) them, and you had a moment like this, the DOT would flat-out not apply, even if the grenade connected.

I'm going off the assumption that Shoulder Charge underwent a similar effect, and flat-out didn't 'count' it.

It can be due to the other player's connection, of course; but it should be their problem, not everyone who gets to fight them.

>>384732465
What about PvE, though?

>>384732706
They've already said that they boosted the drop rate of heavy ammo, and have purple bricks programmed to drop every time from certain enemies. The prevalence of power ammo in PVE will probably be much closer to that of special in D1 than it will be to heavy.

>>384727906
Ironically, D2 os closer to what Staten envisioned.

destiny, in a nutshell, is what's wrong with gaming.

>>384731405
Didn't really consider using it like a Striker. Will most definitely have to try that sometime.

Ability tree? Believe it was something along those lines.

>>384732432
Because its tries to be Halo, but with the play style of CoD, while also being a "RPG"

The weapons in Destiny made the game hard to balance because you can have the same gun as someone, but theirs can be better because of weapons perks. Shotguns and Snipers were among the worse in PVP, so I guess that's why they changed it that way.

>>384728995
No one played Rumble for them to bring it back. They wanna change the mode up before they bring it back.

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>>384721315
Its okay I guess. My friends weren't playing so I played the story mission and a single match of multiplayer and then decided to play something else. Was just kind of fun. But its not really a solo play kind of a game for me.

But to Destiny's credit, I don't really enjoy games that much. I just play them briefly and then read about them and watch videos about them and shitpost about them.

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>>384731848
>play demo for first destiny and get hyped
>buy destiny day 1 and all the expansions they roll out
>play about half of the the last dlc
>realize im not having fun and spent about 200 dollars on one game
>mfw

Oh and fuck bungie for thinking they needed to make raids overly convoluted so that only 10% of the player base even tried them. All in all I won't be playing destiny 2 bc its just going to be destiny 1 with more dlc and lol random humor.

>>384733154
Wouldn't it have been easier to strip weapons of perks for PvP, then? Or have every gun turn into a normalized PvP version of itself when you get into a match.

>>384733060
Not at all, Staten's campaign involved the Traveler and Speaker being evil, and the player character going on a quest to expose them.

>>384721315
I stopped playing Destiny 1 when the Scam King DLC was dropped. So much has changed. Why is my shotgun a heavy weapon? Why is my Hunter a Sith Inquisitor? Why is my Warlock wielding a sword?

#NotMyDestiny2

>>384732002
stop pushing that shit you little nigger, atleast here most know exactly how the fuck this plays out. Destiny "throw your money at the screen" 2, will have the same exact layout as one with the dripfeed of content keeping children and those with a short attention span hooked like fucking heroin addicts kept just at the very threshold of jonesing. You know exactly that will happen too, you scum fuck. There isn't dick you can do to hide it either to anyone with eyes whose seen this shit before, there will always be the grind, and the effort in making the grind will always divert their effort from making an engaging pve experience that meshes together the dynamic and open gameplay of contemporary shooting with crazy ass powers and the happy experimentation with builds and sense of progress that comes with including rpg mechanics, you know, like how destiny one was touting it could do? and then absolutely met the bare fucking minimum of build variation? you need to taste the dirt you shit on faggot because i ain't haveing any

>>384731052
SC shouldn't be able to insta kill. The trade-off with damage is being balanced with faster recharge of grenades/disabling the enemy hit, which they need to tune.

>>384721315
I have no idea who any of the characters are.

Were they even in Destiny 1?

>>384732950
That won't work.
If power weapon ammo isn't common enough for constant use, shotguns and fusion rifles and such will see next to no useage because they just aren't effective enough to be worth the rarity.
If power weapon ammo is common enough for constant use, why not just spam rockets everywhere? It would be easy and effective.

If only there were a system in which rockets and shotguns didn't share the same slot, PvE might be both balanced and fun. Alas, no such system exists. If one did, Destiny 2 would surely use it. Surely.

>>384733534
There is literally no fucking grind in the game anymore whatsoever. You are a fucking idiot who doesn't even understand what he shitposts about.

>Two primary slots, which are limited to Scout, Pulse, Auto Rifles and Handcannons.
>Heavy slot has Snipers, Shotguns, Fusion Rifles, Rocket Launchers, Grenade Launchers and presumably swords/melee weapons in the future
Considering one of the primary classes tends to be dogshit in any given patch outside of an exotic in the class, you might be running 2 Scouts or 2 Auto Rifles or 2 Pulse Rifles because of efficiency. Especially on PC for Scout headshot consistency

>>384733773
I know you're being sarcastic, but the current Destiny system has a shit ton of problems with having shotguns and snipers in their own slot that I wouldn't say that it's a better system.

>>384731996
this is why its a BETA, now do yourself a favor and just report it to bungie so they can fix it you crying mongel find something else to say you hate about it why don't you lol

>>384733773
The Fusion Rifle is literally the best DPS weapon available in the beta right now, it performs far better against the boss than the rocket launcher. The non-rockets will have plenty of utility once ammo drops are adjusted to be more reliable. If only because the ammo bricks give you most of a magazine fro the Sniper/Shotgun/Fusion, and only a single rocket for the launcher.

>>384727921
always online :^)

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>>384734036

Played the intro mission but that's it, no one to play with and i dislike playing co-op games with randoms. Is the strike doable solo?

Regardless i doubt i'll be buying it, grindathons just ain't my thing.

>>384734591
Probably if you know what you are doing, but you have to jump through hoops to not get matched with people for it.

>>384728708
Seriously, unloading clip after clip after clip into an enemy's face just to watch its health slowwwwwwly shrink down is fucking annoying. And now in D2 all the abilities have been neutered and forced into an eternity of cooldowns so you can't even have fun with that.

>>384721315
It's incredible, it's like they set out to ruin everything they did well for the first game.

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>>384733919
and you still think you can sell me a fucking lame horse you stupid shit faced fuck, it being "fixed now lol" is no fucking excuse for 2 YEARS of content being focused around running the same goddamn missions with the same goddamn spawns with pittance for modifiers, and then having the ABSOLUTE GALL to charge for an """expansion""" that wasn't included in the pass, and you think i'm still going to take up your fucking banner of cum chugging? like "oh its not like that anymore its better so everything okkkaaay" is some kind of condolence to my wallet? you'd have better luck milking a brick, shitter

>>384727827
I really like SOG.

>>384734729
The beta characters are underleveled for the strike, if the gear level system still works in the same way as it did before then everyone is only doing 70% the damage they should be.

>>384728828
It's slower in every possible way. The only things Destiny had going for it were that you could jump high and move around quickly and you had space magic. Figures they'd fuck up the only good parts.

>>384734036
>this is why its a BETA

That, that right there I've heard so many times.

Bungie has had a history of literally never changing their game, nor their central mechanics post-beta. Most they've ever done is pretty things up slightly more (Halo 3/Reach), or tweak a few numbers.

If you honestly think they'll take the time to fix something, that was in their previous game, and was quite infamous at the time, and STILL haven't fixed in its successor; then what in the name of any sound logic, or reason, would they fix it now?

Do you honestly believe they'd re-do their entire netcode? Within a few months of release?

Now that's delusion.

>>384734807
I'm not selling you anything, you flaming faggot. Whether you or anyone else buys the game or not doens't matter to me at all, I'm just correcting objectively wrong statements.

>>384734807
It was two expansions that weren't in the expansion pass, and the first one came after the first year. Fact is they did remove a lot of the grind to max light, and D2 has removed the god roll grind.

>>384734846
>everyone is only doing 70% the damage they should be
So instead of unloading 20 clips it'll take 14, great

I tried it on PS4 and this seems really bland and dull. I never played destiny 1. Was the last game like this?

>>384723046
why the fuck would you even buy a physical copy?

>>384735325
Even more dull if you can believe it

>>384721315
>Add a 2nd tier of weapons like the first game but keep the two primary slots for pve
>Keep the current system for PvP
>Reduce cooldowns across the board by 25% in PvP, 40 or so in pve
>Give hunters the roll baseline, and add a group utility skill so they aren't complete dogshit for group play
There I fixed the game. Lord knows they are going to do this anyway because literally nobody likes how this are, even on b.net and reddit

>>384735325
More or less. In D1 the characters had literally no personality whatsoever, in D2 they're one dimensional but it's still "better." Gameplay is aggressively worse in D2, everything is much slower. I knew Bungie hated fun but imo they took it too far this time.

>>384735325
It played a lot better, but was still generic.

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>>384735325
yeah its literally exactly the same. it's mind boggling that destiny is so popular. it's a game for little kids and retards. its so fucking bad. its SO bad. why can no one see that its fucking garbage?

>>384735657
>why can no one see that its fucking garbage
Bungie loyalty
Marketing
Large community (sold on lies and bullshit but still)
Autism

>tfw picked warlock

What a disaster of a new subclass. Reskinning Sunbreakers super is so incredibly fucking lazy.

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>>384734945
the only thing relevant you've put into this discussion is that "shits fixed lol" again, as if it being broken in the first place was not a problem, which again leads back to destiny 2 going to be the same shit to start with, prepping for the inevitable aforementioned dripfeed. You don't think they are going to leave those same issues in to fix in two? just to make sure the playerbase keeps interest so they can buy the next expansion/season pass/emotes? Bunghole is going to keep you on a short leash and all you can do is wag your fucking tail, which is the problem with this fucking fanbase being the biggest pussys you couldn't normally imagine, you aren't players, you're fucking tools

>>384733669
By no means would I want D1's SC back.
That was hell man.

However, making it slightly more useful/worth-it? Yes, most definitely.

It's true they're trying to even it out with faster Grenade recharge (could really feel it after switching from Warlock), but SC has to make the risk actually worth it.

Let it be temporarily, and for only an instance, disabling the charge'd individuals Melee, sending them back a few feet so they can't melee back, or something along those lines, anything would be better than what we have now.

It's just more practical to shoot while rushing in for a shield-break into melee as of now.

>>384735657
>it's mind boggling that destiny is so popular
>it's a game for little kids and retards
You just described exactly why it's popular, so it can't be that mind boggling. Games for kids always sell well, look at Halo and Call of Duty.

>>384735504
>Lord knows they are going to do this anyway
Nah they'll half-ass it.
>Add a 2nd tier of weapons like the first game, affecting PvE and PvP
>Reduce cooldowns across the board by 10% in PvP, 20 or so in pve
>Give hunters a buff to the roll but double down on the long cooldown, keeping them dogshit

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>>384735325
Fuck no, it's slow as FUCK now and I hate it. Abilities and grenades do NOTHING for damage and have along ass cooldown.

So all your left with is your gun to kill people.

What's the point of having abilities and grenades if they are barely any help at all? Just remove them at this point, fuck this whole PvP balance MLG shit it ruined PvE because of it.

Slower and more tactical my ass.

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>>384735926
well, sure. i expect little kids to love it. but the entire internet is flooded with destiny 2 beta impressions and articles written by grown men. forbes has multiple pages on it. forbes!

im not exaggerating when i say that i thought i was still in the tutorial section of destiny 1 when i realized i was about half way through the game. i thought that it was so restrictive and dull because i was doing the tutorial, baby missions. then i found out that was all there was. the whole game is just the same fucking simplistic, uninspired, monotonous trash. even all the guns look the same(except exotics)! it's just complete shit.

all my friends love it!

>>384736301
Like it or not, Destiny 2 is going to be one of the flagship games of 2017.

>>384721315
How long does this beta last?

>>384736885
ends on sunday, usa time

>>384721315
dude this is the fucking same game. Jesus christ I put so many hours into destiny but I'm done I don't want to start over from the same game.

>>384736885
3 days, i think. Pretty much standard for AAA betas.

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>>384735456
because best buy is 20% off and gives yo ua $10 coupon so the game is essentially 38 dollaroos then you can sell it for $45 and literally make 7 dollars lmao

>>384736734
I doubt it. Many of my friends felt ripped off with the first game and dropped the game after dlc2

>>384737069
That's like an hour of work at a shit tier job, not worth it, especially considering that you're giving Activision money.

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>all the retards who played destiny 1 a lot are saying they are disappointed and won't play destiny 2

hahaha goyim, if you actually played d1 a lot you're going to play this shit too, how the fuck did you retards make this game #1 on console for 1.5 years

>>384733357
after vault of glass the raids stopped being all that difficult in regards to esoteric shit you had to do in the raid. Just look at Atheon vs Crota. In Atheon, you had to have a spot you jumped to when he started teleporting people, the "go nuts" spot, then you had 3 people running around outside covering the portal, and 3 people inside doing the digital time bomb shits.

Crota you had to shoot a guy, get a sword, stab him a couple times and then shoot the shit out of him. And every boss fight after you had maybe 2 or three mechanics there to make you work on more than just shooting shit but nothing like the gatekeeper's chimes

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>>384721315
I won't pay 60$ for a DLC.
not even a new class?greedy fucking kikes

>>384737498
that's the biggest concern, no 4th class is fucking lazy and jewy as fuck

With Destiny 2 coming out in 2 months, should I just go ahead and get the Destiny ult. pack? Or should I say: Are there still people playing Destiny 1?

>>384737769
>>384737498
No way a 4th class is gonna be added, you have more luck with another subclass. 3 class choice is too central to Destiny's image, like the Traveler, that it would take someone high up in Bungie to give permission for the creation of a 4th.

Just a friendly reminder that on launch destiny1 had nearly a complete gameplay change and Destiny2 will be the same thing. As the game goes on supers will come more frequently, ttk will go down to the one shot meta we have had for the majority of Destiny1.

List your Pros and Cons
Pros:
>I like the way the story is going, and blowing up the place we spent so much time in is a great, albeit somewhat predictable, way to get us personally invested
>I like how classes have a unique ability now, adds some depth.
>Adding in new Weapon types like submachine guns and Grenade Launchers
>Music is still pretty good
Cons:
>No New Classes
>Enemies are still feel and act the same as Destiny 1
>I hate the new weapon equip system. Primary/Secondary/Heavy was much better than this new system
>Removing Heavy Machine Guns
>PVP still sucks

>>384737807
>Are there still people playing Destiny 1?
Yeah there are a bunch of people still playing, it's not a great community though. There's been a drought of content since the last expansion or since basically day one desu so only the really dedicated autismos are left. The people who have run every mission 50+ times and racked up 2000 hours in a game that has maybe 20-30 hours of actually content.
tl;dr yes people play, but not people you want to play with

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>>384737498
>No new classes, just re-defined ones
>No new playable race, just the ones from D1
>No new Vex, just modified Fallen/Cabal with few actual additions

And still no Moth race

>>384737807
Some. You'll find a match, especially with D2 coming around, so you'll have some company if you do.

Honestly though, you're missing literally nothing story wise.

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>>384734036
beta is practically a full release. stop falling for this meme. its your demo.

>>384738191
Moths later became the Hive. You see moths and worms all over the dreadnought since they symbolize death.

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>>384721315
>Are you having fun in destiny 2 beta
Fuck no, D1 had a lot of problems and D2 is a step backwards. Who would enjoy this shit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ukm_QuJQfU

No one's gonna be playing this on the PC lol.

>>384738404
Still wouldn't have minded enemies that embody 'beautiful death', rather than just, ya know, death.

Weren't there also going to be a Lion like race at one point, too? Recall hearing about it in a video along with the Moths.

>>384737807
Probably not worth it at this point, the last swan song event is wrapping up and the population is going to start dying off fast.

>>384721315
Just because Destiny 2 will be on PC doesn't make 1 or this one good, for fuck's sake /v/, you literally are dead.

>>384736972
>>384736985
Rip I guess I can't play. I was hoping for a week but it seems multiplayer demos are shorter now.

>>384728708
Bullet sponge again and they kept in the boss stomp "mechanic" despite half of the specs in the game have melee based supers. Oh yeah on the subject of supers why aren't more people mentioning that 1/3rd of the specs from Destiny1 are simply gone in Destiny2?

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>>384739171
There was going to be a race of tiger men alongside the Humans/Awoken/Exo. They got cut very early on, never even got past early conception. There was also a 4th class that got scrapped early on as well.

>>384721747
PC and PS4. Having a lot of fun playing the beta.

Anyone else turn it off 10 minutes in? Literally the same shit as the first one

>>384723046
Fair. Stop being niggers. We knew from the start there would be an open beta.

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>>384738191
This looks like the early concepts of the fantasy version of Destiny.

I love looking at concept art.

>>384739587
I completed the story mission and played a match of multiplayer or two.

Seems like it would be fun with friends. But thats any game really. Aliens: Colonial Marines was fun coop.

>>384733370
Stop trying to make sense this is modern Bungie

>>384741164
Bungie has never at any point in its history made sensible balancing decisions.

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>>384732553
>I missed
>game proves I missed
>ui proves I missed

ITS THE GAMES FAULT

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>>384740121
The allure is the progression tied to said content.

Honestly surprised theres not any progression based shit in the beta.

It's like putting out a diablo demo without loot.

>>384721315
downloading it now on my xbone.

>>384740121
The fun multiplayer isn't always the same though. Destiny's raids are pretty much the best group content I've ever seen in a shooter, period.

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who here /pc/ but downloaded the beta on console just because you wanted to play it.

>>384727827
Why did you feel the need to add "Japanese" in there? Why not just say play station store?

>>384741695
Key fact, because the beta was entirely free in Japan. No pre-order required at all.

>>384741664
Im OP and that's exactly what I did, fuck waiting a month longer for pc

>>384721315
>fun
>literally same classes
>fewer loot
>destiny 1 wasn't fun at all
>mp is arena shooter now


Why don't you buy borderlands 1 and have fun with the gore mechanism?

>>384742539
>mp is arena shooter now

Hello, retard.

>>384741552
>Destiny's raids are pretty much the best group content I've ever seen in a shooter, period
As long as you're ok with having to grind for dozens of hours in the most boring group content ever seen in a shooter. Also, raids are only good the first time. Doing the raid more than once, or with people who have done it before, always devolves into cheesing which is somehow even more boring than the content leading up to the raid.
I'll admit that the raids CAN be fun, but only in a specific sweet spot of timing and destiny-fatigue.

>/v/ still thinks they have superior taste
>/v/ still thinks it's everyone else
How's it feel to be actually autistic?

>>384721315
Sorry what? I was playing planetside 2.

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>>384743131
I'm sorry man, that must be hard for you.

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>>384741302
>Been an issue since D1
>Mentioned that it's happened before, and since
>Destiny 1/2 use shitty p2p servers

>lmao guy u shit n like blame gaym

If I gotta start recording it every time it happens to appease your straw-biting arse, I'd be more than happy to oblige. At least someone would be putting some footage in this thread then.

In addition, I can't believe you've made me do a simple google search to find that it, in fact, was an issue in D1. Let alone go to leddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/3x2y0n/shoulder_charge_is_broken/

And the Bungie forums.

https://www.bungie.net/en-us/Forums/Post/211506283?sort=0&page=0

If you genuinely think D2 isn't D1 in all forms, including their servers, than I must implore you to reevaluate yourself.

>>384743205
I'm enjoying it personally. Not many other games have a large open world with persistent battles going on like planetside does.

>>384743365
I'm assuming you just started playing, because that wonder wears off really fast.

>>384742861
You sound like you are just regurgitating things other people have said, that doesn't describe Destiny's raids at all.
>As long as you're ok with having to grind for dozens of hours in the most boring group content ever seen in a shooter
This was only ever the case with Vault of Glass, and it was because the entire post-20 leveling system was horrible. For every raid following you could easily be raid ready by just doing the story missions and post-story questlines.
>Also, raids are only good the first time. Doing the raid more than once, or with people who have done it before, always devolves into cheesing
Not true at all. I'll give you that they are the most fun when going in blind for the first time, but they are also just really well made encounters that are a blast to play through. I've probably played it 100 times by this point, but I still would happily hop back into Vault of Glass if anyone asked me to. Raid cheesing is also limited to Crota's End, which was broken as hell when first released. Every other Raid "cheese" before and since was just retarded shit people came up with that just made things harder than required.

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>>384743504

>>384721315
WHEN DID THIS HAPPEN?
no faggot pre-order death of the industry cunts either

>>384743714
This morning.

I hated that level design was a one-size-fits-all affair in D1. Lone titan with a shotgun, or three man team of hunters and a warlock all rocking snipers? You're going to play through the levels the same. Nothing ever challenges you on a character/loadout level; nothing requires a certain class or a certain weapon or whatever. It's incredibly boring to have a game built on "progression" and "customization" when none of your choices are challenged or respected or even noticed. Now, Bungie is shitting the bed again in D2 by going even further in the wrong direction: All interesting weapons are tied to power ammo, guaranteeing that you will never need to use it.
Is it so much to ask that sometimes a warlock can take a different path than a titan, or that you'll NEED a rocket launcher to get past an area? ffs it's basic game design shit and Destiny of all franchises could benefit from it, both to increase replayability (which they force on you, trying to squeeze every goddamned hour out of you they can) and to reinforce that the progression actually matters.

>>384743405
I'm a returning player, I stopped playing before hossin was released. It's more appealing to me to play that for a while than some games these days, like overwatch.

>>384743817
Sounds like you never played any of the Raids.

>>384743459
>You sound like you are just regurgitating things other people have said, that doesn't describe Destiny's raids at all.
"lel u didnt play it" response, neat. I put 100 hours into this shit, did VoG and Crota. It's fine that you found some fun, but that doesn't discredit my opinion or experience.

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>>384725601
PCMR

>>384738643
Loved this guy when he released his 1st Destiny video, opened a lotta peoples eyes that day.

Good to see he's making his points in an even smoother fashion nowadays.

>>384743924
I did actually, but if you paid attention you probably would have noticed I was speaking directly to the rest of the content. Concerning raids: anyone could be any role, weapons were encouraged only due to imbalance (gjallarhorn) and not due to actual level-necessity. Throwing up a shield as a titan or going invisible as a hunter were helpful (sometimes) but never required.

>>384743976
Then you have an incomplete picture, because the future updates fixed the grind issues leading up to Raids, and the later Raids were not cheesable like Crota was. King's Fall and Wrath of the Machine were also a lot better than Crota overall, leagues better.

>>384721315
I won't buy ps plus for the beta

>>384744343
>Then you have an incomplete picture
Sure. As a player who started with vanilla destiny and stuck with it through its first dlc, I can safely say it's shit. Good to hear they fixed it later, but my faith in the franchise is already gone.

>>384744342
Once you have a full fireteam loaded up with a perfected loadout, sure. You could get away with anyone being any class. But at any point before that a Defender with a weapons of light bubble is basically required to pick up the slack, along with a Nightstalker hunter to tether bosses and further boost damage. Encounters like Warpriest without the right exotics or god rolled legendary weapons either require complete perfection, or Defenders/Nightstalkers to provide the buffs and debuffs.

So, melee in PvP is fucking useless right? At least for Titans? Fucking 3-4 hits to drop someone now, even shoulder doesn't hit very hard

>>384744690
Its 3 melee hits to drop a player now across the board.

>>384744650
I'm talking about level design, anon, not encounters.

Wait. Shit. Lads, do I need PS+ to play the beta?

I'm not gonna re-up that shit just for a fucking beta, my cuck friends can go fuck themselves.

>>384739542
And I had fun playing the battle front beta, and we all know how that ended

>>384744772
>>384744495
You need it to play the game on PS4 when its released too though? Why complain about lac of beta access for something you have no desire to purchase anyway?

>>384744745
That kinda sucks. I would run a Striker Titan with Peregrin Greaves and aerial shoulder charge people for an instant kill. Maybe that's why it feels weird, I'm used to one shotting Defender titans in their bubbles and telling Bladedancers to sit the fuck down with the heel of my boot

>>384744746
Encounter design and level design go hand in hand when it comes to the Raids, it is hard to separate them. The design of the warpriest room sets loadout requirements just as much as the encounter design itself does.

>>384745012
We haven't seen any exotic armor yet, I just hope we get a Bones of Eao clone. I need my triple better control jump back.

>>384745012
If they have any damage on them whatsoever then you can still two shot them basically just shoot them once in the gut with a sidearm or a hand cannon then instantly cancel with a punch

It's only penalizing you if you're going full retard UNGA BUNGA and not even bothering to have some sort of skilled approach

Destiny games are the proof that Bungie is a bad developer and Halo games were only praised because muh exclusivity

>>384745685
>going full retard UNGA BUNGA
That's pretty much how I played a face-kicking one shot Striker so I guess I'm fucked.

>>384745012
Shoulder charge into melee is a two shot in pretty fucking quick succession

being a halo fag who only owns a ps4 i always hoped Destiny scratched that halo itch i was had but the pvp is so garbage

>>384745029
>Encounter design and level design go hand in hand when it comes to the Raids, it is hard to separate them
You're mixing up the issue and arguing for something that is common sense. Yes, it's beneficial to have such and such loadout for the most difficult missions. No one is saying anything against that. My point is, stay with me here, that you will never ever run into an area where you NEED a certain weapon. You will never be forced into a situation that 100% requires that you use a sniper rifle for example. There are no enemies that can only be hurt by rockets and rockets alone. So there's that aspect; you are never challenged to change your gear based on the level/enemy design. Further, there's nothing that any individual class can do that allows it to interact with a level in a different way. Regardless of class, you're going to tackle levels using the same path. Don't hit that quote button yet, let me elaborate. It would be interesting, and benefit replay value, and make your class matter more, if you could do things in levels that other classes couldn't. As a basic example, imagine that hunters could jump higher than other classes. Levels could then be designed so that hunters could split off from others in the group to get higher ground. Maybe titans could break certain walls, or warlocks could teleport through things, or etc etc. Something that would let me say "hey, this is something I can do that uniquely benefits my team and makes my choices matter and helps me stand out." As it is, outside of two level-irrelevant supers (shield and revive) your choices really don't matter.

>>384745984
The PVP in Destiny 2 is a lot more like Halo

>>384745984

Halo was never good to begin with

I'm enjoying it. But I only play them for coop with my friends pve 2bh

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$60 dlc, $40 for me so I'll sell this trash after I'm done in two weeks

So why is there no open world stuff to do like the destiny 1 beta?

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>>384746049
anon, have you ever played halo?

>>384746257
Because putting one whole quarter of the game's content into the beta probably wasn't the best idea.

>>384721315
Game play is identical to Destiny 1, bosses are still bullet sponges, and strikes are still just endless running and killing the same enemies over and over.

Only thing I like is the """story""" or at least how they're trying to make it play out. If Destiny 1 had started like Destiny 2, it would have been leagues better, but now I can't help but to compare the two.

Just running through the story mission and the strike I know I'm going to be running through it 30 other times just to get some weekly or daily bonus or to try and get exotic equipment.

I'll consider actually getting Destiny 2 after they release all the dlc in one package for $60

>>384746168
>>384746309
What? It is.
>4v4
>TTK is closer to Halo
>Character speed toned down to be more like Halo
>More emphasis on map control to secure Power Ammo spawns

I only played the single player portion of the beta because i dont have ps plus.
Anyways why do they go through of making these kinda expansive play areas with out of the way spots you can get to, but then put fuck all there.
Whats the point of exploring when there is no reward.

>>384745984
halo was always garbage. move on nostalgiafag.

>>384746250
Hi fellow /dg/ boipucci aficionado
>>>/vg/183357613

I was never the biggest Destiny fan but I have played it semi-regularly for periods of time because it's a good way to spend time with my brother and college friends I otherwise don't have much contact with. The first had a ton of flaws but I did enjoy it for the most part.

I think Destiny 2 is fine from the beta. I didn't notice the gameplay being much slower than D1, which I've apparently put about 500 hours into. I think the strike was better than most D1 strikes, and I rarely play PVP since it's always been shit but I didn't mind it this time. The story mission had a far larger scope than fucking anything in D1, there were actual characters, and it was actually interesting. I enjoyed that, I hope the story isn't 3 hours long like the first one.

Overall I'm definitely buying it because it's a decent enough series and a fun way to keep in contact with some loved ones. The two thirds of the game I actually enjoy are already quite a bit better than the first. I'd be mad about recharge times but it seems to be because of armor stats, there's shit gear forced to a certain stat across the board so it's extremely limited. I'm pretty confident once the full game is out armor will determine recharge times like D1. If not the community will bitch and it'll change. I'm not sure why everyone's saying it's so much worse than the first game though.

>>384746691
Rewards and exploring are fun, Bungie hates fun

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>>384746818
I literally make $5 if I buy it and sell it thanks to best buy. I'm gonna play it and do everything once then get rid of it.

>>384746479
>Halo
>Sprint
Now, do you mean the good Halos or the bad Halos

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>>384746479
>accuracy loss while jumping
>class based
>customizable loadouts
>loss of accuracy while hipfiring

halo is an arena shooter. destiny is not.

>>384746446
I agree with you that Destiny relies too much on running the same content over and over again. The game itself is limited because it's just not a real MMO. With WoW you at least have a few zones to go through until you reach max, but even then all you're doing is the same stuff over and over again to up your gear score. What would Destiny have to do to change that? Bungie's biggest success is Halo and that had a pretty linear story with little rewards in multiplayer other than it was fun.

>>384746691
It's the old social space so they wanted players to go through it all to see how everything changed. It's really just references to stuff that was in Destiny.

>>384747083
In D2, sprinting is about as fast as just walking anyway

>>384747087
I said it was more like Halo than Destiny 1 was, not that it entirely became Halo.

>accuracy loss while jumping
Much less than you did in the first game, there firing midair with anything that wasn't a hand cannon was impossible. Now it is actually a worthwhile option with every gun.
>loss of accuracy while hipfiring
This was always pretty minimal compared to most shooters with ADS mechanics, you could see just how much ADSing actually affected the crosshairs in that one Taken King mission you play in third person.

>>384721315
It was fun for two hours but now im already bored with it. I loved destiny but to be honest i'm probably skipping this game, i'm only interested in the story/lore so ill probably watch some yt videos instead.

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>>384721315
Thanks for reminding me it came out today, OP, was gonna just sit here and play Fallout NV, when I should've been downloading it.
Anyone know if the character transfer thing in the full game will be console-locked?

Also, really glad I went in the ps4 store today, sale's going on, so, can fill my ps4 library a bit. Little upset that JJBA EoH's on sale when i'm down to 10$.

>>384721315
No it's boring as shit.
Gonna cancel preorder tomorrow.

>>384748404
You'll probably be back to F:NV before the night's over desu

Beta finally opened up.
Thoughts:
-Guns feel way underpowered
-Ability recharge rates are fucked
-Movement feels sluggish and a step back
-I actually don't mind the two primaries
Final thoughts: this feels like a regression in many ways. Bungie done fucked it up.

>>384748404
Console locked

>>384748574
Eh, download's bretty slow here, even when nobody's home, so, by the time i'm finished with Dead Money and going to bed, it'll probably be just finished downloading.

Also, why're there no more Fallout threads? Did mod ban them?
I gotta be a cunt somehow and ask people for mods and couriers somehow, and the /vg/ threads are all fo4 oriented.

>>384748821
>>384748404
I'm sorry anon but EOH was really shit. NV threads ebb and flow on /v/, sometimes you get multiple per week for a few weeks, then a drought for a few months.

>>384748731
Same except I do mind the two primaries, I like the feel of shotguns and snipers and it sucks that they're basically locked away until I really really need them.

>>384749303
Ammo is going to be a lot more plentiful in the release game, don't think that will be much of an issue.

>>384749694
that doesn't help with the issue he's having

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Downloading now

can I play by myself? I never played the first one.

>>384749734
The issue he is having is that barely any power ammo drops, so you can't go around using a shotgun or sniper whenever you like. Bungie said ammo drop rates will be much higher in the release game, so the thing that is directly causing his issue is being changed. How is that not helping?

>>384750030
no, it's the fact that you used to be able to carry a shotty and a sniper in your loadout

now you can only pick one (or you have to go into the menu to switch out)

>>384750142
You could only do that by using the exotics No Land Beyond or Universal Remote, both of which were unusable trash in PVE so no I don't think that is what he is referring to.

>>384749770
Solo queue and get shitstomped. Try lfg for teammates. Teamshooting is all there is now.

>>384749770
The story mission and strike you will be fine playing on your own, but PVP is pretty awful solo queuing.

>>384721315
Just seems like destiny again.
The plot is still shit. What happened to the good one?
What is actually different, apart from changing a few skills around in the otherwise recycled classes?

>>384750497
>but PvP is pretty awful
fixed that for you

>>384750530
What's hilarious is they've been moving closer to the original plot Staten wrote that Bungie higher-ups didn't like at all. They completely forgot that people didn't like Destiny's plot not because it was serious, but because it was poorly written, rushed nonsense.

>>384750530
Equipment system is completely different, four new planets/open world environments that are far larger in scope than anything in the first game, weapons no longer have random rolls on them, there is an Armor/Weapon mod system that they haven't detailed at all yet but seems to imply that manual customization is replacing RNG rolls. The core gameplay is more or less unchanged though, yes.

>>384750837
What the fuck are you talking about? This has nothing to do with Staten's original campaign. What in Destiny 2 has anything to do with the Traveler and Speaker being the Darkness all along?

>>384751108
The light-heartened tone of the characters like Cayde-6 is what Staten wanted. It was described as being both campy and linear. The biggest complaints I hear about the story and cinematics of D2 on /v/ so far have been cayde's quips and nolanbot's jokes.

>>384751697
That was only done for marketing, the actual mission and cutscene is the most dead serious the franchise has ever been. Cayde-6 gets one single minor quip in as he is introduced, then goes into serious mode as shit starts hitting the fan all around them.

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>>384721315
I went to try it on my ps4, fucked off for awhile to a message saying "destiny 2 beta is ready".
Launched the game and all I see is a splash screen telling me the game needs to download 40gigs. Needless to say, I uninstalled.

Why do destinyfags get so defensive and angry when you say their game is bad?

>>384751976
Repetition of having to make the same arguments over and over again because nobody can be bothered to actually check if anything is true before posting a claim.

>>384751889
The Crow character that later became the prince of the Reef was supposed to be a charming, roguish character similar to what Cayde-6 became in TTK when he was made one of the central characters of the expansion.

>>384752121
But destinyfags love repetition

>>384752258
Repetition of having to make the same arguments over and over again because nobody can be bothered to actually check if anything is true before posting a claim is kind of annoying since it's not gameplay.

>>384752137
They gave Nathan Fillion the role, I'm pretty sure they knew exactly who they wanted Cayde-6 right from the beginning. He just only had a single line in the entirely of vanilla Destiny, and it was the intro to a PS exclusive Strike at that. From his idle tower dialog you could tell the character and personality that would be showcased later was always there.

Besides, they didn't can Staten's story because it was too campy or not serious enough. They canned it because it was too linear and centered around a god awful obvious twist that.

>>384752258
Motherfucker.

>>384730396
>Waa Hunters arent OP anymore
Motherfucker, Strikers cant skate and have no melee charge.

>>384731052
gee i sure do wish these webms showed more than .0001 seconds of what happens after the shoulder charge so i can see how much damage it does and whether it even hit without having to look through the fucking video frame by frame

>>384746035
>and make your class matter more, if you could do things in levels that other classes couldn't.

I agree with you but they were actually quoted as saying they didn't want to make the classes that different specifically for this reason; they wanted all the classes equally valid in all situations.

Its honestly not really surprising, when you compare how underwhelming all of your powers are other than the super (and how shitty half of those are too).

>>384752848
>Titan class ability
Create a huge barricade that damages enemies, provides protection, and can reload your team's weapons by dipping in and out of cover behind it.
>Warlock class ability
Can put down an aura that heals people and gives them an overshield, or boost everyone's damage output by almost 50%.
>Hunter class ability
Do a single dodge roll that is a million times worse than an ability Hunters had in the last game, while also providing no group utility whatsoever.

Hunters got boned hard, the changes to their skill trees is just icing on the shit cake. No more Gunslinger's Trance, Golden Gun can't even kill basic enemies in one shot. Nu-Bladedancer lost invisibility and Blink, and everyone can easily outrun your super. Titan skating was bullshit that needed to go anyway, but what they did to Hunters is just a disaster.

I like Nu-Voidwalker a lot though so I'm not even that mad.

>>384751976
destinyfag here. only really liked the game because it felt like better borderlands to me.
i already expected destiny 2 to be shit
and i already know destiny 1 is shit
it's just lots of people are fuckign delusional and don't look at the facts

>>384745810
No, Halo 1-3 were actually good, all the people that made Halo 1-3 left after Halo 3 and that's where the quality started dropping. After Reach all the people that made Halo great left and here we are in the shitshow we see today.

>>384751976
Because they are the same faggots that thought Halo 2 had the best campaign and ODST along with Reach were the best Halo games ever made.

>>384721315
I'm actually really disappointed, but I see why people like it. I planned on playing it while waiting my splatoon 2 copy arriving on monday, but it only kept me occupied for like an hour before i got bored.

>>384736734
Its still going to be shit
glad im not getting ripped off

>>384751976
it looks nothing special mate. LOL 30 fps console shooter with bullet sponge enemies and bad A.I. , what is frostbite doing? You people eat shit like this like it's' something special/