/dg/ - Destiny General

>>183355037
No. He lacks both the IQ, and the impartiality, to comment on the story.

>>183355214
He makes a lot of assumptions. He assumes that once the traveler's light is taken you die, but you've been in plenty of places where his light could not reach you and didn't die.

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Desinty 2 is a ded game made by a ded studio in the design of the ded. All it will ever do is suck. It does not belong here. This is a place of fun.

>>183355214
He replied to an inquiry I had about the Vanguard barely knowing who the Red Legion were and said he was joking.

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>>183355509
>This is a place of fun.

What time today does the beta go live for people who didn't preoder?

>>183355652
if it's like the other days, 10 am pacific

Halo 3 had thousands of machinma videos, i was wondering why destiny didn't.

>>183355037
nah, because even if the plot involved the city seeing the invasion coming, we'd still end up with the same game

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>>183355738
lack of private matches until Y3

>>183355738
forge

>>183355620
>implying shitposting in /dg/ isn't fun
Also that image is fucking hilarious, and I've never seen it before. Thank you.

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>>183355652
Open BETA start times for those who didn't pre-order

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>>183355864
yw

>>183356026
source

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>>183356107
https://exhentai.org/g/831241/ca6c079476/
(C87) [SYOKUHINTENKABUTSU (kuen3)] Maekawa Miku vs Predator (THE IDOLM@STER CINDERELLA GIRLS) [English] {KFC Translations}

The only Destiny content is that one page after the main story. Here's the unedited page.

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>>183355913
>>183356026
>>183356094
>>183356412

>>183356412
>Using Gjally at templar
>not sleeper
this kills my boner

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>>183356523

>>183356554
Gjallarhorn is generally better for Templar though.

>>183356641
We have a stacked team for our speedruns that's five sleepers and a runner, and we generally down him faster than any other team I've been on

must just be my autism then

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>>183355738
>2017
>making/watching machinima
https://youtu.be/JjwaK8RvsxI

>>183356723
>speedruns

yeah you didn't have to tell me you had autism, i figured that out

haven't played destiny in 2 years how's the beta?

>>183356786
eh

>>183356795
kys weeb

>>183356795
there is loads of weeb stuff, i myself cant wait to get my hands on that 1 handed katana sword that hunter used in the gameplay reveal

I thought the Phosphorus was pretty mediocre, but switching the Scope to Flash and the mag to Phase makes it significantly more reliable.

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>>183356795
>Do you hate fun?
yes

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>>183356795
> what anime influenced Destiny?
warframe, obviously

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>>183356795
I'd put money on BLAME!

>>183356778
Let me quantify speedrun here. It's for challenge mode and we get together to get through it as fast as possible, rather than fumbling around for people who 1. have no idea what they are doing but won't tell us 2. randies who start fights

it was born out of someone telling me that vengeance is better than hunger (which is what I run to save my exotic slot) because you get a little more damage but no tracking. Then he proceeded to miss all of his crota shots, and THEN who literally screamed at us after he botched running the sword at crota (read: didn't even get a hit in before he was launched to space) and when we told him we were just going to do three runs, he literally said "BUT MY REPUTATION" and ragequit. We usually have fun, we're not sweaties who freak out about not doing things perfectly every second. but we do like to get through templar fast.

>>183356901
its good for both PvE and PvP too. mags a little low with Phase but not awful.

Omolon guns looking to be GOAT

>>183357086
who's your favorite k-on, whatever memeber of drinniols anime shitposting group this is.

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>>183356873
Not today, I took my anti-depressants.

>>183356905
Well stop.

>>183356950
Destiny had been in development for years by the time Warframe came out, and it isn't anime.


Akira, probably. I'd bet on Ghost in the Shell, too.

>>183357264
>space teenagers with catanas and supersuits aka small evangelion
> not anime

>>183357324
>likes 5heads

for shame

> Its literally the same game

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Cowboy Bebop, for Hunters.

Why do people get so upset at bungie calling it a beta?

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reminder 95% of you complaining are still going to buy this shit even if they don't change anything from the beta

>>183357607
here? everyone is from /v/ and they heard once that betas are more like marketing demos and so now every single beta ever is a demo no matter what or who puts it out.

>>183357613
95% of us already paid money for the game, frog

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Some armor designs (notably Titan Snowglare helm) draw on the Eva units in Neon Genesis Evangelion.

>>183357407
>western company
>video game
Young adult wish-fulfillment stories are not unique to Japan, friend.

>>183357679
95 pay for game

This

>>183357607
I'm not upset, but a beta is supposed to be the pre-bugfix form of a feature-complete product. This is less a beta than it is a demo and server test.

>>183357879
Needs a headband

>>183357912
I wonder why they call it a beta then? Do you think it's just that people are associating beta with demos and so it's starting to gain that association?

>>183357879
maybe if she had a mask on or something, too much 5head and she looks like an ayylmao

>>183357912
>>183358129
>server test

pssst thats what a beta is.

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Trigun, Vash may have been another Hunter inspiration.

>>183358129
Inviting portions of the playerbase to beta tests is sort of a tradition in video game studios. What happened, I think, is that as the internet gained steam, spoiling all the game content became a thing, so studios started releasing "limited betas" to cut down on that, with the result that what you get isn't really a beta anymore.

>>183358278
>pssst thats what a beta is.
No. Server testing is one of the things a beta is for, but basically, a beta is supposed to test EVERYTHING about the game. That's what it is. It's when you stop development and go full steam testing and squashing bugs. Literally, a beta is when you invite a bunch of extra people (not normal members of your QA team) to use your product and try to find bugs or other issues.

Server problems are one of the things, but they're hardly the only thing. And limiting the content, and the systems, available to test, means that the final product will have a lot more bugs in it.

>>183355018
Destiny 2 is going to be the same garbage we were fed when Destiny 1 released if not worse than what we'll get now. They have no plans for actual improvement and zero plans to go big with the project as was originally intended, please don't give them your money.

>They have no plans for actual improvement
>improved almost everything

>>183358605
The first mission is already a vast improvement over Destiny 1 Vanilla, how can you say there are no plans for improvement?

>>183358558
>No. Server testing is one of the things a beta is for, but basically, a beta is supposed to test EVERYTHING about the game

yeah senpai, maybe if you're a developer. a public beta, for public consumers, this is what it is.

protip: they have a private beta that is the full game.

>>183358831
>a public beta, for public consumers, this is what it is.
No, they just use words wrong because tradition.

>>183358736
We will be getting even more simplified classes/subclasses than D1, stats are locked, we have less places to go, other than actual clan invitations there seems to be zero other push to improve socializing, ships still do jack squat, we will not get private matches, etc.
Essentially they told us from the beginning they wanted to bring an MMO to the table, they failed the first time while improving along the way in the first iteration along with the expansions, which was fine considering that it was still an enjoyable experience. D2 rolls around and its shaping up to be the exact same, but with less content.

>>183358918
use a word enough and it becomes a part of what that word means.

its a beta, get over it autismo-tron.

>>183359059
It's not a real beta-test though, the game releases in almost two months and all they can really do is iron things out. The bulk of the content has already been made.

>>183359189
so what you're saying is its a beta test. because the game is complete and now they're ironing out bugs... aka a beta test.

>>183359056
I don't see the simplified classes as a bad thing. There were so many junk options in D1 that it might as well have just been the main perks. Who didn't use Firebolt with Touch of Flame? It feels like the only real things they got rid of were the stat boost perks which did little to help.

We may have less places to go but most of D1 was just dead space.

The lack of social improvement and private matches are a shame. I'll agree with those two points at least. The other points I feel like are personal opinions.

>>183359237
Technically, yes. However beta tests in the past, during a time when much better games were releasing, took place well over 2 months before release.

>>183359310
private matches are coming after launch and the game has in-game LFG now for most end-game activities.

>>183359397
>back in my day
we get it grandpa.

>>183359310
Tell me, how many MMO's have you played? Which ones?

>>183359443
Ah, didn't realize that about private matches and the in game LFG. Then what was the other poster talking about? What else would you do to improve socializing?

>>183359056
Same amount of planets as D1 launch, not less but they will be bigger.
Private matches are not available /at launch/
They never used the word MMO and in fact shy away from the term.
D2 was told to give twice as much content as D1 at launch, everything in the future is up for grabs.

>>183359510
tell me, why bring up MMOs when talking about an online-focused FPS.

>>183359510
I don't really play MMOs and I guess that might color my view of destiny since I see as a FPS first.

>>183359596
Well, Destiny is a MORPGFPS, which has a number of similarities with MMORPGs, even if it can only have a small number of players in a single instance.

>>183359836
Destiny is not a MMO

>>183359860
Everytime.

>>183359860
There's only one 'M' in MORPGFPS, anon. Can you figure out what the acronym stands for?

>>183359836
number of similarities doesn't mean its fair to criticize it for being something its not.

>>183359893
>>183359925
Fuck off retards, this game is a unique shared world instanced based shooter, it may have a few resemblances but Destiny is a hybrid of many game genres and archetypes. See
>>183359980

>>183355738
No forge, custom games, or theater mode

>>183360029
>unique
Lol, unique for being a shadow of what it could be.
>>183359561
Well private matches certainly didnt come /at launch/ and we had to wait years for a simple concept to be implemented. Also, you are correct about D1 launch locations, but it simply does not make sense for Bungie to abandon 2 planets, the moon, Hive Ship, the Reef, and the locations on Earth. But we shall see of course, all I'm saying is that Bungie could make a game that is stamped in vidya history as a truly memorable and great experience. But it will never happen if they keep pushing the same stuff, things are become way too simple.
>>183359596
Shared world shooter is what Destiny is, but a SWS pales in comparison to what an MMO is. I think Destiny could become a true MMO as it already has some basic tenets of one.

>>183360029
>shared world instanced based shooter
You mean, like being multiplayer, and online? Drawing on role-playing game elements, like leveling systems, classes/subclasses, talents/perks, gear collecting? And it clearly has first-person shooter gameplay?

In what way is MORPGFPS not an accurate description?

And it has further MMO similarities, such as daily and weekly quests, dungeons, raids, public zones to explore. Destiny draws non-trivial amounts on the MMO genre, even though it isn't one itself.

I don't even know what you're arguing about with that other anon at this point. But MMOs are a valid point of comparison when it comes to one of the elements Destiny shares with them.

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https://youtu.be/Y1OjUWw43co
Remember this?

>>183360459
Bringing back old locations would make a sequel pointless, might as well keep everything and make it a DLC.

>>183360618
Hey isn't that the gameplay reveal for Bioware's new game Anthem?

>>183359530
Zone chat like PC is going to get.

>>183360649
I'm not saying bring back those old locations, I'm saying bring those old planets back. The areas we patrolled on Earth still was not the entirety of the wall, and space is something that is not even explored in terms of gameplay.

>>183360812
If they bring back old planets, they better have different tilesets or the community will scream rehash.

>>183361086
Thats not the hard when you're in a sci-fi setting man.

>>183360618
>Saturn
>mercury
Fug

>>183355214
>skipped to a random part
>OhOHoHo but this cutscene right here ruins the-
dropped he's just shitposting
but instead of (you)s he gets youtube cash

>>183361135
people are already complaining D2 is the same game and now you want them to bring back old planets with recolors? are you fucking insane?

>>183361306
The definition of insanity of doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results, so yes, he is.

>>183360618
Never...ever...

Is Rumble seriously not going to be in D2 at release?

And if it is, these small pvp maps are going to make it a clusterfuck.

>Also in the blog post, beta design lead Rob Engeln said another major purpose of the Destiny 2 beta is to, of course, gather feedback about gameplay and balance. He clarified that the version of Destiny 2 that this beta is based on is actually "months old," so the feedback players send in is more about validating choices that were already made.
So why didn't they give us the newer build?

>>183361728
Why would you even assume that?

>>183361728
I hope some maps are build for big team slayer. I don't understand why bungie just doesn't do it how they did it in halo 3.

>>183361809
Because Bungie is trying to force all these objective based PvP modes as if D2 was an e-sport.

>>183361794
They're lying.

>>183361794
They can't. Because it's not an actual beta, see. It's a demo. So a few months ago they started working on the demo, which is when it split from the main game. They stripped out everything they didn't need for the demo, locked down features, did actual closed beta testing on the demo to squash as many bugs as possible, and THEN released it to us. There wouldn't be enough time to do all that on a current build.

Are there more class items in the beta or only the one?

>>183362710
Just one

>>183362710
Theres three per class.
Each class has a pvp set of armor (including the class item) and a pve set of armor.
Acquired from the pvp modes and the strike respectively.
And the one you start with.

>>183361902
FFA is one of the most brain dead easy gametypes to introduce in an FPS

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Xth for pike farming

>>183362886
Bunghole took 3 years just to give us private matches

I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH FAILSAFE!

>>183362938
Comparatively private matches might as well be rocket science.

>>183362886
Rumble will not be in D2 at launch. They've already said this and no, I'm not going to re-find where they said it

>>183363028
Do you even know what would look like???

>>183363028
Do you want to connect to her sockets? Plug your dongle into her port? Overflow her stack? Access her backdoor?

nth for needs a 2nd "beta" with the "grenade effectiveness in PvE, Boss vitality, and weapon damage against non-player combatants" and heavy tuning in effect

>>183363048
Bruh you a bunghole dickrider huh?

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>>183363028
what does failsafe-chan look like

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>>183363261

when is farm out?
also will vendors be enabled to inspect?

>>183363417
far as we know all vendors are disabled, you can make friends with a chicken, and play soccer tho

>>183363481
Has a fireing range too.

>>183363028
>sticking your dick in crazy

Does /dg/ like D2's gameplay? I haven't been on /dg/ since TTK came out.

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>>183363585
what do you mean by "gameplay"

>>183363585
PvE is enjoyable as always, PvP needs some work.

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>>183363585
It's pretty fucking awful

>>183363898
That's a feminine hand you got there

>>183363898
PvE needs it more

>>183363585

I hated it at first, beginning to like it now. Strikes are challenging and PvP is more focused on gunplay than LOL ONE SHOT, plus the precision fusion rifle is everything I wanted Sleeper Simulant to be (I.e. Legendary)

My main gripes are how Nova Bomb is shit now (mine never seem to track like Goth's and it moves WAY too slow for my liking) and grenade balance has gone off the rails (tripwire and lightning still one-shot, everything else has been nerfed to shit). Plus cooldowns being utterly ridiculous with no way to reduce them (it seems).

Also it only took like a day to reveal that the games netcode still favours people who are lagging.

>>183363585
None of it matters pvp wise because the base game will be more balance and less ghost bullets will happen.

"Okay guys, radiance was a bit shit and only good for self ressing or making orbs. But don't worry, we got you! Here's a new super where you make a sword that can shoot projectiles! You're basically the hammer of sol, remember how broken that was?"

>All the sword can do is shoot projectiles
>Can't even melee
>Projectiles don't even do enough damage to kill mobs in one hit, let alone other players
>Doesn't even last that long anyway

>Meanwhile not-bladedancers have a full movelist of combo attacks, super armour and a ridiculous duration

This is ludicrous.

>>183364517
Aim your Nova at the ground of the enemy, or shoot at it to prematurely detonate and shatter.
>tripwire and lightning still one-shot
>still, despite not oneshot since 2015
False, you were tagged beforehand.

What time can you download the Beta during the open beta for the weekend?

>>183364689

I've started doing that, and it works some of the time. I'm still getting used to the new casting range though (Doesn't help I mainly used Lance last game).

Tripmines have always one-shot warlocks though. Lightning don't quite one shot but they sure do 90% or something like that. Meanwhile scatters can't kill even in close space and charged, axions can't break a shield, and suppressors do basically nothing. Not sure why they hit efficacy AND cooldown

>>183361794
>game is released in 6 weeks
>expecting them to take all the feedback necessary, make the adjustments needed, testing it and validating it with Microsoft and Sony before printing the discs and shipping them on time
Nigga, if you got an actual beta, you'd be complaining how buggy it was and swear off buying the game.

>>183365019
I already bought the game dumbass nigga

>>183364983
You need to spec more resilience, and remember your grenades are the strongest since you can charge them.

>>183364517
I'm hoping the second skill tree fixes nova bomb's speed. Otherwise, I'm just using it as a glorified fist of panic for now.

>>183365048
> if you got an actual beta,

>>183365116
Why do you care so much about nova bomb speed? It is relatively the same unless you're one of those lancefags that miss every shot.

>>183365201
>implying this isn't the actual beta

>>183364678
Bungie has no talent anymore

>>183355018
Is he right bros?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuifXvPIE0E

>>183365310
Third thread in a row, stop shilling your video.

>>183365310
yeah

>>183365310
stop shilling your channel you fucking preteen edgelord

You fucking face when Ghaul controls our Ghost

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>trying to measure agility
>un fucking noticeable
>you're faster at 0 agility
what the fuck

>>183366209
Agility was always the most useless of the three except for very few situations, which were usually just getting to areas you weren't supposed to reach.

>>183365221
>the same speed
That is the most bullshit thing I've read today and I've been reading /x/ greentext threads all day

So can you pre load the open beta?

>>183366532
And just like /x/ you're full of shit

>>183366629
If you think that fucking CRAWL is the same speed as current nova bomb, you've never played voidwalker

>8 hours until open beta
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO FOR THE NEXT EIGHT HOURS?!

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>>183366532
>>183366629
>reading /x/
>after the time /b/ found it a decade ago

>>183366698
I main Voidwalker you scum, even if it is somehow slower you're shit for complaining about it. I have had no issue playing my class, it is still one of the easiest subclasses to use.

>>183366779
It is annoying as shit. I could tell from the second the first one fired off that it was not even close to the same as Destiny 1. It is one of the best classes though

>>183366847
How far away are you trying to fire it?

>>183366946
At the choke point near b where the flags lead. Firing from one side to the other takes a solid 2 seconds to get across. 2 seconds that let everyone run away

>>183367064
Get closer next time, remember you have 2 pre-nerf blink charges at your disposal.

>>183367154
>using blink
And I know that now. It's just a change that I don't like at all. I'm hoping that the second perk tree is like old nova bomb in that sense

>>183367208
>It's just a change that I don't like at all.
Blink has always been on warlock, you should adapt and take what is given.
>I know that now
>now
Have you even checked your own class? Jesus you complain with half an idea of what is going on in your own class.

>>183366701
>WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO FOR THE NEXT EIGHT HOURS
prepare yourself for disappointment

>>183367339
Blink is ghey and a meme
I don't actually. I only looked at the options I could change. I haven't looked at either of the two perk trees

>>183367457
>Blink is ghey and a meme
Blink is op again, you're retarded not to use it.
>I don't actually. I only looked at the options I could change.
Every time, it's like arguing with children.

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>>183367345
>prepare yourself for disappointment

>>183365221
Something feels off about it. Not that I care since I use it at single jump height now.

>>183367524
You're gonna be playing a character that has 0 INT, DISC, and STR so enjoy those long cooldowns la

>>183367790
i know im about to get memed on, and granted some of the cooldown reduction skills suck, but look at your skill try and take advantage of your cooldown reduction skills

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>>183367790

So how disappointing is the beta? Don't wanna spend the cash if the game is going to be a giant letdown.

>>183368121
The beta is mostly disappointing because it has very little to do.

>>183368121
I had fun right up until I started doing PvP and grinding for only a small babby handful of weapons and armour. Normally I love to play PvP in spite of the extreme amount of salt-mining it causes, but with only a handful of guns and armour to grind for, it's not particularly engaging.

Also, while the 'floor disappears' mechanic of the strike boss is neato the first time, all subsequent times it's just another phase. I think it'll be fine playing the actual game where there's always something to go for - new guns, new armour, new shaders, ships, emblems, faction packages etc.

>>183368121
shit because shit build

So what's everybody doing once the beta's over? I'm replaying Dawn of Sorrow and Portrait of Ruin until the Lawbreakers Beta comes out on the 28th. Don't think I wanna go back to D1 after D2, I'm already complaining enough.

>>183368578
playing fortnite, let it die, warframe, maybe some casual destiny reset memes as they happen

>>183368578
D1, Overwatch, class, until D2 launch

>>183368182
How similar to Destiny 1 beta is it? Since there wasn't a lot to do, but people still played the hell out of it.

>>183368994
yeah but there was literally nothing to play in mid 2014

>>183368994
I didn't play the destiny 1 beta, sadly, so I can't really attest to the quality of it.
Its just 2 pvp game modes with one map a piece, and a strike.
There is also the first story mission, but you can only play that once.

>>183368994
maybe a little less to do, but you can still grind for shit, hunter pvp set, titan and warlock strike set look nice

>>183361809
it's literally confirmed there's /only/ 4v4 playlists with no inclusion of Rumble, anon

>>183369069
So no patrol to fuck around in? That's shit.

>>183368578
going to resub to WoW for three months to tide me over until PC release

>>183369278
You can fuck around in the open world around the strike.

>>183369368
Not much there to fuck around in though.
The paths too and from the area have all been boarded up.

>>183369730
You have an entire lost sector and public event, you can even glitch out and explore more.

>>183369885
But I want moar!!!1! :^(

I'm pretty angry dudes

How can they allow the Hunter and Titan supers to exist while the fire swords are almost unusable in comparison. Striker super has no aim and better range then nova bomb yet is still roaming with multiple charges. What the fuck is the logic behind this?

Atleast make nova bomb have a roaming after effect/second charge or give us a buffed sunstriker

>>183370227
These worlds have more story involvement, to give us more would spoil the story.

>>183370306
I agree that more would spoil things. I was just mocking people who want more than what there is.

>>183370362
Carry on

>>183370295

Warlocks have worst grenades, worst melee skills and worst supers. Only saving grace is movement options, which are borderline OP

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>>183370471
Get good

Not a D1 player here, I've been following the game and it seems like the big support machineguns are gone in this sequel? I'm wondering if they are going to come back occasionally under the auto rifle family or something.

How much does D1 in its current state adhere to certain models and animations for different weapon classes? Here in D2 I'm seeing people running around with the Scathelocke (normal config rifle), the Deathstalker (P90-style bullpup) and the Sweet Business (damned gatling gun), so it seems like Bungie has no intention of keeping anything samey, which is a problem I noticed watching people play the initial release of D1.

Could be that big MGs return as orange or purple or even blue auto rifles, just with their stats skewed towards big boolet slower boolet more boolet?

>>183370295
>Better range than nova bomb
That's an outright lie. FoH has a small-ass AoE now compared to the nuke it used to be.

>>183371158
i dont care what anyone says, i really enjoy the sweet business titan minigun, its not exactly the same as HMGS but ayyy it fun

>>183371158
also i would assume HMGS might return in an expansion, who knows

D2 is such shit. They broke everything about multiplayer for the sake of "balance" while not fixing everything broken about multiplayer.

>>183372274
d1 without any cooldown reduction isn't that great either

>>183372370
Slowing everything down is even worse.

>>183372447
Let's be honest, the pvp will always be shit and broken until they get rid of all abilities and give people default weapons to use.

>>183372447
I like the lower movement speed, skating et al was cancer

>>183370295
I saw one warlock make 6 orbs with nova on strike where that dumbfuck bitch ai says "shoot them first cap" or something and the cabal leap forward
roaming shit is gay and weak

FoH in D1 with that arc wave ability was instant death to any yellow, FoH in D2 is weak and slow and zero range

>>183372862
how much damage does the airtime perk add? enough to be relevant or no?

>>183372918
haven't tested it
it'll be shit vs ultras since they'll aoe you away while you're climbing
also have to compare it to wasted super time during climb vs straight slamming

slam animation is slow and slam arc is short as shit too

>>183373137
yeah seems like a real meme perk

just like striker year 1 heyooo

>>183372862
I'm hoping everybody gets at least a single "One-and-done" super.

I miss having Fist of Havoc to shut down enemy supers. Only reason I ever ran it was for Unstoppable.

>>183370924

Honey I'm already good. Now that abilities are either shit, on ludicrous cooldowns or both, mobility and gunskill are all that matter. And warlocks have the best mobility options now

D2 Crucible is terrible and the only people who like it are sub 1.5kd scrubs
Prove me wrong

>>183374087
No more slaying, just hand holding.

>>183374087

>I mained shotgun striker: the post

>>183374242
>I'm so bad I think people got carried by abilities and weapons the post

>>183372686

But anon-kun, they did that for this beta and everyone still thinks it's shit

>>183374087
Only shitters complain because they can't adapt.

>>183374308

>>Removing abilities and special weapons ruined PvP!
>You must have relied on them too much
>>NO U MUST JUST BE BAD

Seriously?

>>183374429
Not him, but I'm doing fine. It's just not fun.

>>183374431
You are obviously a shitter because the first thing you're thinking is that people are complaining about Crucible because of the lack of abilities and special/heavy ammo. I am completely fine with getting rid of ability spam. The game's TTK makes the game so slow, and there is not much chance for individual players to go around and slay if they had the ability to do so in D1. It's basically impossible to flank on your own and pull off multiple kills because it takes so damn long to just kill one person, and by the time you do so, their teammates who are holding hands can still react, even if they hardly have map awareness, to kill you. In addition to that, the movement speed in the game is so slow that hardly anyone utilizes vertical space anymore, especially in the absence of 1v1s, which was an area where skill gap was prevalent in D1.

>>183374431
Most of my kills each match in D1 are primary kills you fucking child.
D2 is even easier to do well considering assists count as kills, every game for me has been 5kd +

>>183374429
>Adapt?

You can no longer kill two people at once due to skill. As in its not going to happen.

Also reminds me when people said "just adapt bro" to halo reach armour lock

>>183374729
>Reddit wall of text
>no spacing or indentation

Fuck off if you actually expect anyone to read this

>>183374087
D2 Crucible is too ez and the only people who like it are sub 1.5kd scrubs

>>183374875
>5 lines
>Wall of text

If he had spaced it out you would also say >Reddit spacing

Get a grip

>>183374729

>You must be bad for assuming I relied on high TTK stuff from the first game!
>Allow me to write an essay on how longer TTKs makes this a shit game because now you have to be smarter about engagements and consider teammates showing up

Once again: seriously?

>>183375898
>An essay
Nigga are you serious

>>183375898
i'm sure some people like being "smarter" about engagements (Aka more hesitant in every circumstance because Bungie hate 1v1s now), but a lot of people like doing solo shit and being good at it. So far these changes have directly punished that.

i got d2 for pc because i cant stand plugging in and out of my ps4. Are any of you transferring over. Although my only rugrats is not having content early like i did on ps4 :(

>>183375898
the person who wrote the "essay" isnt the one you said you're bad.

Spent most of yesterday slating the game and today just bought in full a new PC to play it in 4k.

I don't get myself

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Just a heads up for those who want to cancel their order from Best Buy.

http://thisgengaming.com/2017/07/20/best-buy-are-charging-customers-who-cancelled-their-destiny-2-pre-order-after-getting-the-beta-code/

>“Because you cancelled your order after your digital Beta code had already been fulfilled, which can’t be returned or deactivated, the system automatically charged you its value in accordance with our policies. I do apologize for any disappointment this may cause, but because we cannot return or deactivate the digital code you were already provided we’ll not be able to provide you with a refund for its value. “

>destiny will never feel like the Music of the Spheres sounds
Why live?

>>183376664
Good thing only retards buy from or work at best buy

>>183376664
Lmao

>>183376278
video games!

4k is a meme, should have spec'd around 1440p

If i use the jap PSN to get the beta early, can i use it on my regular account?

>>183372686
I just want a pvp playlist with no radar or supers desu

>>183377914
what's the point? It's open beta in four hours

>>183377987
autism and impatience

>>183378070
yes you can but read bottom of OP

>>183377862
This. 1440p/144Hz > 4k/60Hz.

When does the PS4 beta end? I want to get it to try out the game but I won't be able to for a day or so
Also do you have to have PS+ to get it?

bad beta
bad game

>>183378973
short on content beta
good game

>>183379084
outdated beta
cannot determine game quality

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Unlimited shield bash when?

>>183379297
outdated beta
outdated game

>>183380158
people don't watch the show for the female co-host, they watch it for Gary, it's simple

fucking equality, my ass

Where's the beta on the PSN store?

>>183381331
three hours

>>183381362
What's the size?

>>183381445
15ish GB

>>183381504
Fuck. I have a 9mbps connection

>>183374729
You really crying because your solo attempts at being a retard are met with a sound team firing ass whooping? Christ, don't buy the game. Just fuck off and keep spouting shit on the sidelines.

>>183374490

To you. I had a blast in the crucible. If you're not having fun, why play? Leave this place, you spend too much time here you'll have a hard time having fun.

>>183374826
>Also reminds me when people said "just adapt bro" to halo reach armour lock
>someone engages armor lock
>back off and get ready to blast them in the head
I bet you were secretly one of the people that kept shooting and tried to close the gap and melee them so you'd eat EMP.

>>183374826
>You can no longer kill two people at once due to skill
you're shit, anon

>>183376068
As someone who likes to lurk in PvP and try to flank to take guys in the wrong position, I never know if I'm going to run instead into a face full of men. Faster ttk means taking them from behind is a huge opportunity to totally ruin 2+ dudes and punish an exposed rear, but that strategy is indeed punished under the new system. For all the "play how you want" talk it's frustrating that this tactic doesn't seem viable anymore unless you get super/heavy. I'm still mostly enjoying playing, but especially with all the turds who don't know what the fuck their doing it feels more like babysitting.

>>183382940
Agreed with you 100%. I'm not bad at PvP by any measure, and I'm doing fine in this new style, but every time I try to make a solo play a part of me is wondering how many seconds it will be until some guy's 2 mates pop out from the corner to teamshoot me again.

>>183384142
its interesting, tho, to see them commit to something no other shooter has the balls to do, giving shitters an opportunity for "efficiency" by rewarding following stronger players and covering their rears. definitely encourages people to find their own full teams and buddy up, communicate more. so many times i wanted to cry out "i just got fucked by all four dudes" because of my failed reach around as i watch the rest of my team trickle into them one at a time

>>183384797
some people would be proud of that achievement

>>183385031
its still fun but it doesn't win the match and it's hard to learn anything getting completely slammed that way.

>tfw playing countdown
>1 teammate drops
>other two are a party
>other two just feed
>mfw 1v4 every match
>mfw wonder twins just run to rugs and plant every time
>mfw start of last round one of them is afk
>match ends
>1v4 in scoreboard

what a waste of time

redpill me on arcstrider

>>183361435
>>183361306
I'm not saying to donthe exact same things you autists, I'm saying to advance beyond mediocrity.

>>183385751
Do sick flips and tricks for bonus lethality.

>>183384797
>no other shooter
Halo has rewarded that for over a decade now.

>>183382853
Not him, but some of the very best players in the game are saying this.

>they're shit

Statistically, they are not.

The time to kill doesn't allow you to kill someone before the other person can react, unless they're literally mentally retarded. 90% of the kills in D2 are decided by somebody else coming into an engagement and cleaning it up.

It's dull and unsatisfying. It's crazy to me that people are pushing this narrative that "gun skill matters more in D2!" when on an individual level it probably matters less than ever.

>open beta starts in an hour and a half
>can't download it yet
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>183355037
>Dark Side Royalty royale

DUDE FUCK OFF.

Every time this fucker is posted its the same anon, dude, nobody gives a fuck about your channel, your opinions and videos are garbage, stop spamming them here.

>tfw our ships still do nothing

>>183361183
>but instead of (you)s he gets youtube cash

He's got about 3k views per video. Basically the youtube cash you're mentioning is about 30 cents a month.

>>183385751
arcblade with stunts and short range projectiles

>>183386932
every game rewards coordination to some degree but d2's ttk balance is far enough over that pairing up is going to be mandatory, making public matchmaking a success-defining gamble. going it alone = feeding

>>183388114
the goal is to make everything that "does something" be readily obvious in combat. all the stuff on character page 2 is for funsies/looks/to show off.

>>183386959
>The time to kill doesn't allow you to kill someone before the other person can react
What's crazy to me is that you think the game is somehow more skillful if it revolves entirely around who gets the jump on who, or that not being able to finish fights before someone else comes along is the fault of the game and not your aim. There's seriously something very fucking wrong going on here.

I WANT TO PATROL NESSUS!!

>>183388348
Thats not a good thing, ships could actually have fighting and traversing space but no, they're just for "funsies"

>Went to bed at 1 AM after grinding the beta like 10 hours for the fucking titan PVP shoulders.
>Got up at 4AM
>Went to sweetwater creek park
>Walked the yellow trail
>About to get in the car
>Mosquito flies into my mouth and lodges in my esophagus
>Its abdomen pops
>Random blood in my throat
>Vomit on the spot
>Get home
>Too nauseous to do my archery exercises
>Just about to boot up beta again.


Moral of this story?

STAY

THE

FUCK

IN

YOUR

HOUSE

>>183388378
I definitely can get a kill without taking more than 50% shield damage much of the time, but a second opposing player almost always seems to cancel that out

does anyone have a bungie clan (piss4) that actually plays destiny here?

>>183388650
You should probably get checked for hepatitus or something. Consuming blood is bad.

>>183388571
I would rather have no space fighter fighting than a poorly implemented one.

Destiny is not a space fighter game. Focus on what's important.

>>183389036
>>183389036
Its fine I'm starting to feel a lot better now after having some ice water and a bit of an air conditioned room. Throwing up right away was the proper reaction.

>>183389265
Its a purely mental reaction if symptoms hit instantly.

It's a healthy reaction, mind you, but it's a mental thing for now.

>>183389265
>Day 1: Some crazy mosquito came outta nowhere and burst in my throat. I vomited. I hope I'm okay.
>Day 6: Feeling a little whoozy, my throat's itchy
>Day 17: Throat's gotten really swollen, went to the doc, they don't know what it is but they're planning scans and surgery for next week
>Day 19: itchy so itchy throat hurts make it stop coughing coughing coughing

>>183389227
>reddit spacing
See Halo Reach's space scene and tell me they can't implement it well.

>>183389541
>>Day 1:
>>>Fanfiction.net

You should go back.

>>183389883
>Day 1: Gave anon a (You). That'll teach him

>>183389973
>Day 1: Masturbated to trap mutilation again, better go back to /vg/ and try not to come off gay.
>Day 2: I failed.

>kicked to orbit while doing my hunters story mission
>contacting destiny servers
Good to see things never change

>>183389738
>muh memes

Halo reach was a single player mission with one ship, and it was OK. Nothing to write home about.

>>183390170
>Trap mutilation
I didn't realise this was a thing. Yet, thinking about it, I should've realised it is.

>>183390308
I want reddit to gtfo.
Anyway, the mission being single player does not matter as the dodge roll from Reach was directly imported into Destiny for the Hunter, and why NOT make our ships actually functional eh?

>>183390608
>dodge roll from Reach was directly imported into Destiny for the Hunter,

Wew laddy. Do you have a single fact to back that up?

So can we safely say the main reason D2 was delayed was to move specials the power slot?

People say the power ammo drops rarely, and bungie themselves said its low and they are going to change it. But its actually about the same as D1. Go kill the yellow bar enemies in the strike at the beginning, power ammo drops more frequently from them just like D1. Ammo drops are the same its just special weapons werent designed to be in there.

You do less damage with your primary but the reason for that is because you have two primaries.

Special weapons now power weapons do more damage, but with the ammo drop rate of power weapons.

>>183389738
i think the goal there was another disempowerment. the vanguard can't maintain any sort of space superiority against the fallen, any orbital base would be shredded before it was even started, so instead they rely on small ships that never engage and depend on the vastness of space to stay hidden.

>>183390608
>and why NOT make our ships actually functional eh?
Because there's no reason to. "I wanna" is not a legitimate reason to waste time and resources on appeasing one faggot with entitlement issues.

So maybe you should take your own advice, reddit, and gtfo.

>>183390906
(You)

>>183390906
>main reason D2 was delayed was to move specials the power slot?
Are you retarded? You act like that's some sort of difficult task. They literally just changed special weapons to heavy weapons.

>>183390905
Halo Reach had an armor ability exclusive to Elites (outside of forge and custom games) where you press LB to do a dodge roll. They work similarly but not quite the same. In Reach it would just fling you in your desired direction, keep you in first person camera, and you'd have some momentum coming out of the roll. In Destiny it moves you in your desired direction, goes into third person, and doesn't seem to have any sense of momentum gain or retention.

>>183388650
lol wtf...
also
>sweetwater creek park
i think i know who this is...

>>183390905
Kinda hard to find these clips:
Halo - https://youtu.be/_qTYPq-YWvE
Destiny - https://youtu.be/mmTU1bZc1-E
>>183391027
That seems like a good lore excuse, however the Vanguard still needs to take down the fleet somehow. They can't call up the Awoken this time that's for sure
>>183391254
You type like a redditfag.
Also, I'm certainly not the only one who wants ships to actually do something rather than look pretty, fag.

>>183392417
>it looks the same therefore it is the same

Kek

>>183391254
Space combat was supposed to be in and was cut lets be real. They said space combat would be in D1 at first but then eventually dropped all mentions of it, ships were supposed to be more than a loading screen and in the early build it would drop you off in patrol.

>>183391746
I didnt say it was difficult, im saying it was a last minute decision.

>>183392525
Of course it isn't the same functionally because you don't go as far in Reach, but it is the exact same animation.

>>183392623
>exact same

Kek

>>183392913
I see no counter-argument.

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>>183392595
>in the early build it would drop you off in patrol.
I forgot about when they showed that at E3.
Shame.

>>183393086
>warlock gets blacked.webm

>>183393086
I autistically gave ships different stats and profiles based on therir shapes.
WOuld be really cool if Destiny had a mini Elite Dangerous inside. Do some Cargo runs for money, Ship to ship combat
>Raiding a Fallen carrier with a fireteam

>>183393451
Exactly man.

>>183393086
I dont know if youre fucking with me but I meant it would fly over to drop you off in real time, everyone in the area would be able to see your ship.

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>just over 20 minutes

>>183393657
https://youtu.be/mmTU1bZc1-E
Skip to 2:35
It really sounds like Bungie planned tomake things much bigger, more MMO-like, at least they were trying to sell it as such.

>>183393086
I think they cut that because of hardware limitations. Xbox 360 and PS3 couldn't handle up to 9 different players with all their different gear and the zone and the enemies AND up to 9 different ships.

>>183393987
Now that it's on PC and newer consoles that shouldn't be a problem then, right?

>>183393910
>It really sounds like Bungie planned to make things much bigger
Understatement of the century right there

>>183394204
For sure

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>>183392379
>i think i know who this is...
Go ahead, give it a go.

OMG BOOTED FOR 1.03

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>>183392595
>Space combat was supposed to be in and was cut lets be real. They said space combat would be in D1 at first but then eventually dropped all mentions of it

Then you shouldn't have any trouble providing an official bungie statement saying the ship combat was supposed to be a thing.

>>183392417
>Also, I'm certainly not the only one who wants ships to actually do something rather than look pretty, fag.
Seriously neck yourself moron, you're literally complain about a load screen.
>REEE Why are loadscreens pretty reeeeee now I want them to be gameplay reee
You sound incredibly entitled.

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>20 minutes
>no, fucking 10 minutes
>no pre-load

>>183394998
You don't get preload when all you need to activate it is to press (x) once you download it

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>>183392417
>You type like a redditfag.
Not an argument.

>>183394948
Here comes reddit as stupid as ever.
I'm not complaining, I'm saying that ships could very well be a great addition to Destiny along with space travel/combat. Is it wrong to seek something greater when it could very well be done?

>you're Reddit
>Nuh uh you are
Calling someone Reddit is the most useless fucking insult possible and it will invalidates no one but your own argument.

>>183393791
Enjoy it anon.

>>183395256
>>183395328
It shows where someone comes from and how asinine they can be, Reddit has the worst major internet community aside from Neofag.

>>183395269
>Here comes reddit as stupid as ever.
Still not an argument.

>Is it wrong to feel entitled to a fully functioning space combat just because the devs wanted to give me a pretty spaceship loading screen instead of a blank screen.

You're a fucking imbecile, and the fact your only argument is "lolreddit" Just shows how pathetic you are, legitimately consider auto-asphyxiation.

>>183395497
>It shows where someone comes from and how asinine they can be

Yes, calling someone reddit really does show where someone comes from and how asinine they can be. But people still do it.

>>183395497
It shows nothing other than that you're a pissy little faggot with no real argument.

>>183395537
Ships were going to be a bigger concept you mongoloid, datamining proves this. I'm not the only one who wants a bigger concept as most of the Destiny community wants something bigger for ships, I'm not entitled whatsover.

>>183395809
View my other posts and you'll see I'm actually arguing something idiot.

>>183395889
>Ships were going to be a bigger concept you mongoloid, datamining proves this.
>It went from "bungie literally said it" to "datamine said it"
Still waiting on proof.

>>183396032
>View my other posts and you'll see I'm actually arguing something idiot.
When you scream "lol reddit posting" you're not arguing anything. Feel free to re-write the post like a functioning adult and I'll read it.

>>183395207
I mean I can't download it
let's check now since my sister had me waste like 15 minutes getting her something in a different game
no, I can't fucking download the beta
how the fuck do I get this beta?!

Did somebody already look into the weapons yet? The one thing I hated in Destiny, is that every weapon of the same level and rarity had the same DPS. ie. A level 8 shotgun with 7*8 damage and 1.0 firerate or a level 8 revolver with 56 damage and 1.0 firerate, or a level 8 SMG with 5.6 damage and 0.1 firerate.

Is there any way to raise the FOV?

>>183394120
They decided to spend all the improved resources on shiny grafix and particle effects.

>>183397272
fuck off bob

>>183396559
http://destinydb.com/items?name=&category=unknown&page=11
http://destinydb.com/items?name=Ship&category=
http://destinydb.com/items?name=&category=materials
Look at all those ship related items and icons!
>>183393910
View this video.
If you don't have the mental capacity to read my previous points then you're wasting both my time and yours.

>need PS+ just to play a fucking beta
what the fuck

>>183397515
>http://destinydb.com/items?name=&category=unknown&page=11
>1 item called "Ship Upgrade"
Literally nothing.
>http://destinydb.com/items?name=Ship&category=
>Fallen Shiplinks are literally a quest drop from House of Wolves quest.
>Retruieve your ship are literally quest steps for the first quest in eyes up guardian after collecting the jump drive.
>Ship shader while obvious on its meaning doesn't even remotely imply any greater use for ships. Proof: Destiny 2 has ship shaders and ships still do nothing.
>Wolfship Display is literally just the TTK reef quest item.
>Two common and a legendary ship.
How does any of this prove that ships were supposed to have a greater purpose?
>http://destinydb.com/items?name=&category=materials
>None of these have anything to do with Ships.

Its like you just typed "Ship" in the search bar, but literally only one of those items isn't in the game, and that's the "Ship Upgrade" item with no description or info of any kind. How does this prove anything?

>View this video.
>We're discussing ships.
>He tells me to watch a 3 minute video about shadestep cancelling.
You don't really have a right to comment on anyone's mental capacity right now broski.

If you have nothing of value to say then why are you acting like such a fucking authority? I'm still waiting for the proof for the statement earlier that you said bungie stated ships were supposed to play a much larger role. And I'm still waiting for you to show me these datamines that show ships were supposed to play a much larger role.

>>183398873
Its literally been said for weeks, where the fuck were you?

Demos and betas are not immune from PS+ rule, only Free to Play games are.

>>183398875
>Ship upgrade placeholdrt is "literally nothing"
>"somehow" not noticing the ship plating, ship navcore, and ship drive as other items for a ship
This is excluding the Warp Core obviously, and I never said that they were going to I said that there is evidence of ships taking a bigger role. Another anon said they Bungo said they were doing stuff with ships.
>>183360618
This was the video that was meant for 2:35, my mistake. My c key is kinda fugged so it won't always copy as it should.

>>183395537
Wow dude, you're pretty hostile.

Back when bungie handed over reach to 343i and signed of "see you starside" I was hoping their next game was going to be a starfox clone.

That being said, even though i've no hope for any ship combat in d2 vanilla, I don't see why they can't expand on that in an expansion like how expansions actually used to add new features.

The background music is markable inferior.

>>183355018
you guys ready for 4v4 Iron Banner in the full release?

>>183400414
Yeah, to me it's kinda lame though, I'd much rather have 6v6 except for smaller gamemodes.

>>183400414
Ready for them to fix bloom in the base game

>>183400573
same, 6v6 is already frustrating when you have that one shit player on your team. 4v4 on the other hand induces aneurysm when you have a bad team mate.

>>183400874
Exactly

I WANT TO BREED DRINNIOL'S PUCCI!

>>183368578
Wait for the PC beta

>tfw my /dg/ crush never got on to play with me

:c

>>183392623
Wasn't the Reach evade always (atleast when a player used it) a roll? With Hunters it's more of a spin, and it seems to be the spin the AI can do with evade

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/technology-40598468/hands-on-with-the-sci-fi-shooter-destiny-2-beta

hmmmm

>>183388378
>What's crazy to me is that you think the game is somehow more skillful if it revolves entirely around who gets the jump on who

That's not Destiny 1 at all. First shot is an advantage, as it should be, but we're not talking about Call of Duty here. If you have a better shot, you can still turn on someone and get the kill the majority of the time. Watch literally any halfway decent play D1 and you see situations where they're looking elsewhere and turn on someone who got first shot off consistently. Destiny primary TTK was one of the major strength of the game, even, and they've thrown it away for basically no reason. Nobody was complaining about it. People wanted more consistent primaries, even.

>or that not being able to finish fights before someone else comes along is the fault of the game and not your aim

Play the fucking game. If people are at all clustered up(and everyone has already figured out that's the only way to play the game already), you can not kill someone before the other player reacts and be able to make a move to defend yourself the same way you could in D1. TTK is something like 60% slower across the board, that's a massive change.

If you're enjoying the way it plays, more power to you. For all it's balance warts, Destiny 1 far and away had the best gunplay out of any shooter for me. I'm disappointed that they've chosen to deviate so far away from something that was a strength.

>>183404798
There are at least four different dodge roll animations, one of which is a pirouette.