Fallout

>tfw you cant join the enclave
god dammit
also, is the midwest and alaska the only places the enclave has bases?

>>384507598
I don't think that's canon.

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>>384507259
>You can't join the good guys
Why video games do that?

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>mfw you will never join the enclave.

>>384507259
I like to pretend that Enclave logo stands for 'E'urope, it even has 12 stars

>>384507598
>>384508284

Never got this. The enclave want to kill off the muties and ghouls with the FEV. You can literally count the amount of good mutants and ghouls on your fingers. The Enclave are like the Legion, but actually capable and not a meme.

Also, why didn't the XO2 armor show up in any games besides fallout 3, always liked the sleek look better than the ostentatious XO1 and flat out ugly t51-b/45d

i started a new vegas playthrough again and am about 25 hours in, currently running through dead money at level 26. cant wait to head into the divide again though

>>384508685
People just want to role play as hitler. Even if it doesn't make sense for a tribal.
I do think the Enclave should have been join-able in Fallout 3 though

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Hey guys I ,uh, forgot where my power armor is. Can I borrow some from the barracks?

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>>384508685
the only cool looking X02 armor was the hellfire variant especially when they had the ehavy incinerators

>>384508779
I like grabbing chances knife and running straight to the divide.

Starting with a nailgun, arc welder, bowie knife, and U.S. Army gen outfit/U.S. army combat armor is just too good.

You should also be able to take down the marked men at the gas station and pick up free high quality loot before returning to the Mojave.

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>>384508960
THAT SUIT IS COMING OUT OF YOUR PAY!

Just played the first 2 games. Fallout 2 is GOAT but Fallout 1 is pretty lackluster (short story, few content, bugged shit all around). Why is it so liked again?

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>>384507259
Should I even bother playing one?

I have never played any fallout game from Bethesda or whichever studio made New Vegas but I want to try 2 because it looks pretty fun.

>>384509103
i dont think im ballsy enough for that, plus i like saving lonesome road for last because muh lore and storyline or whatever, seems right to do it last

>>384509175
Most common complaint you hear from people that liked one but had issues with two is the amount of pop culture references in two which they feel hurts immersion.

>>384509175
It's much more cohesive. You'll notice in Fallout 2 some things stick out like a sore thumb. Ghost are an example

>>384509175
ive tried fallout 2 like 3 times now and i just cant get into it, maybe i just dont like isometric games

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>joining the enclave would mean I'd have to kill the best guy
no way boss.

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>>384509103
>taking down that nigger with the red rocket using only melee and/or dynamite

>>384509321
Well yeah, the amount of 4th wall breaking references is kinda silly, but the positives of that game outweigh the negatives

>>384509378
Fallout 2 is a pretty hard game compared to the first one so that's maybe why

>>384509224
Fallout 1 is relatively short. I say give it a look.

>>384509175
the worst thing about the first game is the fact that you can't tell companions to wait, change equipment or tell them to move around. Meaning you enter a small room with 2 companions and you have to reload a save or kill them

>>384507259

Why does UFO4P require all DLC to download it properly? Is there a vanilla version?

>>384509282
You can just leave after the bunker. Ulysses even taunts you saying you will leave and return because you're curious, so its lore friendly


Anon you replied to here. Marked men dont have that much DT and are mostly tanky due to regen. The 9mm smg you can repair from Doc mitchells or the stealthboy off joe cobbs body does wonders.

>>384509448
You'd be putting him out of his misery, he doesnt really have much to live for. Maybe he can see raefela in heaven or w/e

>>384508683
Why is there 12? I thought that there was 13 stars (didn't care to count) to signify the 13 American colonies.

>>384509923
>>384509474

2nd line meant for

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>>384509993
The Enclave just took the american flag and slapped an E on it

what's the name of that mod that let you save the sentient deathclaws?

>>384510163
Restoration Project?

>>384509175
I feel like 1 gave off a very good atmosphere. It was a very raw and rugged game and I appreciate that. It's got a certain charm about it and that goes a long way. 2 on the other hand feels very different from 1. I'd go as far to say that you could give 2 a modern facelift, change nothing about it and it would still be embraced by the modern crpg crowd. It's bigger, has more content, but it sacrifices cohesion to be bigger and better. Still a great game, but its a whole different beast from FO1.

>>384509474
Is that artist who i think it is?

So for the first game, what's the best way to survive random encounters? I keep getting my ass handed to me anytime I get swarmed after I leave the first town.

>>384510417
That's what the Outdoorsman skill is for.

>>384510417
Just run away.

>>384508484
>>384507598
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/23923/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21961/?

The dude also made a enclave mod for NV I think.

>>384510254
that one, thanks, I finished fallout 1 two days ago and want to play fallout 2, should I play with the mod or play vanilla?

>>384507598
you cant join the enclave because they know everybody would

>>384510417
Run. Once you get a good pistol you should farm radscorps and get some free caps by making infinite antidotes from the dude in shady sands.

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>tfw tried a run 10 luck + jinxed run on Fallout 1
>leave the Vault
>first random encounter is the Nuka Cola truck with 10.000 caps

>>384510417
the only hard encounters are the mutants up in the northwest. 2 is much more harsh in that regard

>>384510485
>>384510486
>>384510569
>>384510660
You mean like run to the edge on the map? Guess I'll do that.

>>384510569
He makes like 3 antidotes a day before it's night and you have to wait for it to be day again.

>>384510578

>Not using Cheat Engine

They sent me a moron

>>384510529
Have you played Fallout 2 before? If you haven't i recommend killap's unofficial patch. If you have then go for the Restoration Project

>>384511021
>not enjoying videogames

>>384510995
Yeah. Just wait, its basically impossible to run out of time.

>>384510489
For the Enclave? It was fun but the voice acting was ass.

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>>384511021
>being this bad at Fallout that you need to use Cheat Engine

>>384511460
git gud scrub

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Daily reminder that Augustus Autumn was actually the hero of fallout 3

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Seems like a good place to leave this here.

>Leave spawn
>Get bursted by a guy in full combat armor with a p90

>Leave the Hub
>Get ganked by a group of 5 with shotguns and XLOs

>Go to the combat arena thing
>Miss all my shots, get bursted and die over and over again without getting kills

>In all this time I neverfound a weapon outside of the arena

I followed the build and guide on the fOnline reloaded wiki, how do I get good? Where the fuck can I even find a gun?

>>384508685
>Any games but 3
Uh 2 and tactics you fucking child?

>>384511784
>no option to destroy that faggot computer then side with autumn and wipe out the BoS
shit game tbqh

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daily reminder

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>>384511784
This is true.

>>384512002
>NewVegasFag

Fuck off the game was same as GOOD as FO3

>>384512002
this is half true half bait

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>>384512002
Threadly reminder

>>384512002
true but replace fo1 with fo2

>>384511968
I didn't know the XO2 was in fallout 2, just the XO1 (advanced power armor). Maybe I never found it.

Didn't play tactics, but I mean, its a spinoff.

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>>384512002

>>384512127
better

>>384508685
BEAKIES A SHIT
TRUE AMERICANS WEAR T51-B, THE REAL POWER ARMOR

>>384512127
>oblivion and daggerfall being above anything

You HAVE to go back.

>>384512183
>its a spinoff.
So is 3, 4 and NV.

>>384512286
kys

>>384512208
>kino
fuck off back to /tv/, cunt

>>384512208
>>>/tv/
>>>/pol/

Reposting because falloutwars is occuring
>Leave spawn
>Get bursted by a guy in full combat armor with a p90

>Leave the Hub
>Get ganked by a group of 5 with shotguns and XLOs

>Go to the combat arena thing
>Miss all my shots, get bursted and die over and over again without getting kills

>In all this time I neverfound a weapon outside of the arena

I followed the build and guide on the fOnline reloaded wiki, how do I get good? Where the fuck can I even find a gun?

>>384512286
you know goddam right what I meant

>>384512002
How to spot a Vegasfag, NV and 3 are so similar they shouldnt be separated by more than 1 degree

>>384508484
Who would want to join the shitty Bethesda Enclave anyway?

>>384508685
But all muties are everyone outside the Enclave. They're the only pure breed in the wasteland, and that's because they've been fucking each other for centuries.

>>384509282
I usually do Lonesome Road just before the battle at the Hoover Dam. Although I've heard of anons who do that DLC first and then complete the rest of DLCs in reverse order.

dead money could easily be a movie

>>384512743
yeah i just got up to the point where i need to do the dam quest so thats wwhen i did OWB and now im onto dead money

not sure if i should rush honest hearts before lonesome road or not

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MYAGyZlBY0

>>384512869
It's self contained enough to be one.
Which one would be the canon ending, though? Does everyone get to live at the end?

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>>384512208
there, fix'd

>>384513113
Mine was everyone lives except Elijah.

>>384511821
So what im getting from this memepic is that Fallout 2 is the most accurate representation of reality

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>>384512208
>search new vegas mods
>90% of them are anime garbage or meme riddled trash

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>>384513131
Perfect.

>>384513220
Dean is a piece of shit, though. He deserves to die.
Christine stays alive and God and Dog fuse.
Elijah gets trapped in the Vault.

>>384512869
dead money became my favorite DLC when i did my hardcore playthrough and i was scrounging the villa for chips just to buy some dandy boy apples because i was at 4 ticks of HP constantly, I really felt unsafe and exposed in the villa like I actually had to fight to survive

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Be sure to visit Casa de Dores, a cozy little village just next to Goodsprings.

>>384513451
*stands on the cliff and spams dynamite you when your AI fucks up and you bunch up next to the tents*

>>384507259
Eden did nothing wrong.
except having shitty "kill yourself" dialogue"

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>WOW THIS MOD LOOKS GREAT!
>gunetwork.org
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDXWKv9XA8E

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>>384513328
Shit, I found something wrong, now should be ok

>>384513807
Looks fucking russian to me

>>384513632
>amnesia monster
trash

also the mod makes no sense in dead moneys lore, sierra madre wasnt some mad scietist's lab that pumped out experiments.

the only palce this would work would be the clinic where maybe the autodocs fucked up a bunch of people like Christine but even then its a stretch

>>384513427
Good point and now that I think about it, locking up Elijah opens up a chance at a sequel.

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>>384513954
omg, last redo and it's done, k?

>>384513979
nv barely has any lore friendly mods anyway, only trash like monster mod
may as well go full retard with the lore

>>384513451
I did after beating OWB and leaving my heart behind. They weren't a problem then.

>>384510939
yeah and get the hunting rifle from vault

>>384514087
>try flora overhaul dead edition for f3
>ITS LORE FRIENDLY DUDE LMAO
>find dead giant redwood trees in front of the lincoln memorial and white house

>>384512127
>>384512002
>Obsidiots and Morrowhiners don't get the joke and post charts unironically explaining their mediocre opinions

>>384513320
FO4 mods are far, FAR worse

>>384514001
If Elijah managed to find a way out of there...
We'd have DUST. We can blame a good chunk of DUST on Elijah.

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which game had the best looking super mutants?

for me i loved the look of the mutants in FO3, especially seeing the failed FEV subjects in the vaults but I think New Vegas polished the design off and is the best model

I dont even want to talk about the FO4 mutants

I, for one, love pure untainted humans :^)
Because they make the best muties

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>tfw F3 and NV aged like milk

>>384514714
Always thought F1/2 had the best looking mutants

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post your favorite fallout greentexts

>>384507259
I liked FO2 but man I came into it assuming the enclave had at least one redeeming factors. I cannot understand their motivations for being so murderous at all.

>>384514804
Vegas has aged P good

>>384514714
those fev horrors should have been enemies
dont tell me this thing isnt terrifying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-j0Xw7osAY

>>384514950
Not really. The game looks like ass even with overhaul mods.

>>384515049
id love if they more so crawled or limped towards you. no way you're running with that fucked up right leg

>>384515074
As far as gameplay goes its aged better than Fallout 3

>>384514950
No it hasn't. I like new vegas but the game aged like shit, and while mods can help, it doesn't completely fix it.

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>>384514804
>>384514759
>>384514714
>>384514927
>>384514898
>>384514932
>>384514950
>>384515049
>>384515074
>>384515245
AAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa fug, stop it, it's loose

>>384515567
I can play it fine without mods so to me it's aged fine

>>384513113
I think given by the characters' personalities it would be:

Christine aids protagonist
Dean tries to fuck him up
Dog/God has a breakdown
Final shootout between protagonist and Elijah

>>384514714
Aside from looks, which game had the best super mutants gameplay wise?

>>384516156
I think new vegas, i liked the jacobstown aspect and the birth of nightkin, just wish there were behemoths in vegas but i guess it doesnt make much sense since the area wasnt really a hot zone for FEV patients

>>384516156
Fallout 1 probably. They were a real threat instead of being old faggots or orc reskins

>>384515049
Is there any creature in Fallout that's actually scary? Like those that startle you even if you know you can take them down?
I guess Deathclaws, but you're afraid of those mainly because of their strenght and not their appearance.

>>384516156
Fallout 1. They all carried miniguns, laser weapons, rocket launchers and the like.

>>384515567
The graphics don't really bother me and the combat system, while flawed, only takes a little getting used to before you can have a ton of fun with it.

daily reminder that the enclave will be the protagonist of fallout 5

>>384516380
Yeah appearance wise,none. But fallout 1 and 2 you'll fear enemies in terms of threat since things can go south quickly

>>384516380
Mirelurks creeped me the fuck out the first time i played F3 because I'm terrified of deep water, but the fear soon wore off once i realized that they cant even attack underwater and just circle the player haplessly.

>>384516336
>>384516391
In Fallout 1 they could easily fuck your shit up.
Who was more inclined to fuck you over the most, though, supermutants in Fallout 1 or Enclave troopers in Fallout 2?

>>384516660
Well in Fallout 1 you don't have to blow up Mariposa. In Fallout 2 you have to get to Navarro. so i would say the Enclave encounters

>>384516391
>>384516660
They were deadly in Tactics too.
when this shit started playing you knew it was trouble
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edwU_laoauI

>>384516660
At least muties might let you live in lore in order to turn you. Enclave though will shoot on sight

>>384516580
>fallout 2

pretty sure there are very few mutants in fo2 apart from broken hills and encounters

>>384516489
what i always loved about fallout 3 and new vegas, and i guess bethesda games in general is that you can play with the corpses after they are dead, as sadist as that sounds.

sometimes i like finishing off someones head with a lever action shotgun after ive already killed them, its satisfying

>>384510156
Prdtty sure that was before the Great War, when the states were reorganized

>>384517021
The other anon was asking about enemies in general and which are scary.

>>384516660
Super Mutants mostly because you have to fight them a lot more than you do Enclave soldiers.

The only Enclave personnel you need to fight is Horrigan (who is basically a super mutant) as long as you don't fuck up the Speech checks at Navarro and keep your armor on through the Oil Rig.

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>>384507259
Any tips for someone starting out on one?

And before I get shit for asking system shock 2 can fuck you over if you don't level a certain stat and I'd rather not experience that thanks.

>>384516660
The latter, because despite wearing Advanced Power Armor they still attack you on sight, ugh.

>>384517104
That kind of shit is pretty fun. Edgy and ridiculous, but fun. I liked taking down enemies with a shotgun and while they were lying on the ground trying to get up finishing them off with a pistol.

I think it's pretty interesting knowing that while the Vault Dweller was travelling asking for a water chip Dean Domino was in the Sierra Madre getting used to the Cloud.

>>384517249
System Shock 1 doesn't have RPG elements so don't stress about that.
Also this is a Fallout thread

>>384517258
i never knew about the knockdown perk for shotguns untill my most recent playthrough and its great

>>384517250
They shouldn't go after you unless you have Companions following you around, though.

>>384517249
Make a sniper. Use gifted trait and finesse. Focus on agility aka make agility 10. High perception and luck as well. Make strength 6 always.Tag small guns, speech and whatever else you want. Make sure to use aimed shots to the eyes whenever you can

>>384517425
Combine it with Shotgun Surgeon, the Riot Shotgun and some magnum rounds and you can go through the Courier's Mile no problem taking down Marked Men and Deathclaws without dropping a sweat.

>>384517534
Nah still got attacked from my way to San Fran from Navarro

>>384517534
That's only in the oil rig. In encounters they still try to kill you no matter what

>>384509175
Fallout 1 is thematically tighter IMO, with a consistent story from beginning to end. I still love em both, though. They're like Mad Max and The Road Warrior. Two very different films.

>>384516489
Honestly the combat system is the one thing keeping me starting a new run. I know I'll get use to it once I play but fuck it's hard trying to forcing myself to start it.

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>>384517379
A little bit mean of you Anon

daily reminder that elder scrolls has a better story than shitout

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>>384517902
Wasn't trying to be.

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If fallout 1 and 2 would be remade today, what changes and additions would you make to them?

>>384518007
You read his post wrong though he was just saying that system shock 2 can fuck you over with builds as an example. Thinking that the same can happen in fallout

>>384518143
make companions better in fallout 1

also I would flesh out the endgame of 2 since it was near nonexistent

>>384517546
What if I want to use heavy weapons? Does most of this still apply?

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>>384518252
Oh I see.

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>>384518335
Todd is so understanding!
But I have never played a Bethesda fallout and I still don't plan on starting

>>384518143
Realistically? Use a new engine but keep it turn based isometric. Just make it look like wasteland 2 or whatever. That's really it, maybe add cut content from 2 back. Also custom animations for all firearms instead of using generic ones

>>384517372
What in the fuck was Dean's problem? Was it just that everyone loved Sinclair and basically ignored him or what?

Fucking faggot tried to fuck me over because I showed some competence.

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>>384518526
Very funny

>>384518323
Heavy guns are late game. So I would keep the sniper then level up to get Mutate! To switch traits to something like fast shot. Obviously pump points into big guns later down the road. I think that could work. I've never tried big guns. Honestly take a peak at this http://user.tninet.se/~jyg699a/fallout.html maybe you'll see the build you want

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>>384518335
>>384518007
>>384518656
FUck off todd, Obsidian is better than you anyway

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>>384518656
I'm sorry Mr. Todd sir but I am 100% deadly serious in that I will never ever play any bethesda made fallout game let alone pay money for one ( >_< )

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>>384518940
Thanks Anon for all your advice

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>>384519092
>>384519098
ILL KILL YOU ALL
BUY MY GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAME

>>384517828
Each weapon requires a bit of work before you can really get a hang of them. Knowing what range each one has is very important too. It took me a while before I was able to use handguns such as Maria and A Shining Light in Darkness to their full potential.

>>384518302
>make companions better in fallout 1
This.
Ian, Tycho and that Followers chick whose name I don't remember could be more fleshed out. They were interesting characters and could have quests of their own, as well as more weight in the main plot.

>>384519410
>point at head
>dont use ads
>click as fast as you can

How long did it take you?

>>384519527
Well, not only that, but the combat mechanics were terrible. In order to get an item back for them you had to pay them and you couldn't tell them to wait. Plus if you wanted to complete the game any other way but the combat one you had to kill or not get Dogmeat.

>>384518586
He's an insecure and selfish faggot. Sinclair was a happier man than him and it wasn't because of the money, which Dean had plenty of, nor the fame, since Dean was more famous. Not even women; Dean could get any woman he wanted. It was about their outlook on life. Sinclair always looked for the silver lighting, and tried to make the best out of every situation no matter how bad it got. This is the guy who as the end of the world approached built the most luxurious and safest vault in the whole world. Meanwhile Dean just wanted to break him because he couldn't stand the idea of anyone being better than him.

>>384519630
>you had to pay them
Dude what? Just steal from them. They don't care

>>384519569
Sometimes you need to aim lower than the sights of the weapon, or calculate the distance. It can take some time before you realize every weapon shoots differently in this game.

Did you reload the game any time your companions died (in any title of the series) or did you go on and take their deaths as a way to roleplay?

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If you ain't a jet fiend from Junk Town, nigga, you ain't nobody, bro. What?

>>384507259
>tfw downloaded a new mod on Nexus
>tfw updated NVSE and the plugins
>tfw game is rekt now

fml

>>384519410
I just find the combat system bad overhaul, such as sometimes shooting a guy point blank and it's the bullet goes through him like nothing happened. I want a mod that makes combat deadlier for both me and the enemy but have never found the right balance between too easy and frustrating. The closest ive gotten to what i want is this:

http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61576/?

And even then it's just a bit too punishing. I have Jsawyer ultimate but even when I used the damage multiplier in that mod it didn't work right, with me taking like three bullets to kill and the enemies feeling only a bit weaker. Whether that was a mod conflict or not I don't know.

>>384519930
reload, especially in the older game because most of their deaths came from unloaded SMG clips from one of my other companions

I only didn't reload in my hardcore "no reload permament death" NV run.

>>384519697
>Dean just wanted to break him because he couldn't stand the idea of anyone being better than him.

What a hero. Don't get me wrong I think he's a great character but he's a massive piece of shit. One my first run of Dead Money him and Elijah were the only ones who I killed.

I get that Fallout 1 is not as good as 2, but definitely deserves more recognition than it gets.
The Master is a God tier antagonist actually felt bad for him when he killed himself

>>384520339
>I only didn't reload in my hardcore "no reload permament death" NV run.
How tough is this to pull off? I've been considering doing one of these combined with my "pacifist run, never hold a weapon not even once" run. Would that be too hard?

>>384520032
is your game pirated?

Hey Todd did you pirated fallout games too?

>>384519930
Depends on the companion to be honest.

>>384519326
>>384518656
>>384518335
>>384518007
I will always love Toddposting no matter how many hotheads badmouth it.

>>384519930
When I first played this games I did. Nowadays I take anything as a "fuck it, shit happens" experience. Unless its blatantly a bug, I keep going.

>>384520513

Nope, its most likely my fault though, my load order is at 131 and there was probably a mod that relied on an older version of NVSE.

I tried to re install the old NVSE (I save all the old versions of mods and utilities I update) and plugins but it didn't fix it, I'm just gonna assume its fucked now .

Shit part is that I was not prepared for this so I didn't back up my New Vegas folder

>>384520458
The Master is the best and most iconic antagonist of the series. He's both very simple to understand, but also complex when you think about his plan.

>>384520528
Which ones do you always save?

>>384512084
same expect for the part where its unfun

>>384512002
>2 > 3 and 5

wrong

>>384512208
you can tell its weak bait because it only has 4 (you)s

>>384513131
This, but tactics>>384513235
is on the same level as 2 and 3

>>384512461
Fonline can be pretty harsh to those starting out. I suggest making a small guns/crafter character to begin with to allow you to go fight shit and get your crafting skills up as well as begin stockpiling weapons and loot. You want high outdoors, repair (and science if you wanna make energy weapons). Think of your crafter guy as being the support character for your main combat char so adjust him to suit what you want your main to be. Never leave camp with anything you dont want to lose.

>>384520752
not to rag on you or anyone who mods the fuck out of games, but shit, it almost seems like more hassle than its worth. you spend hours downloading, unzipping, installing, just to deal with the game not working in the end. Why not just get like 10 mods max right at the start of your save and leave it???

>>384520857
Usually ones I like. Sometimes I'll keep them alive till a certain point then either let them die or just not reload if they happen to die. Ones like Raul, Boone, ED-E and Cass I almost always let live. Never sure about arcade, and I either kill off veronica or let her leave after butchering the brotherhood.

I had one run where Rex somehow died on me (he went missing and I randomly got "Rex has died!" After a long time without saving. I had also fixed his brain, and I remember the King was really upset, and since it was a NCR run I had to kill Pacer on top of that.

>>384509175
Fallout 1 is fucking short but tight. Everything is linked together nicely, good story line etc etc.

People that put F2 well below F1 are idiots. If F1 scored 99, then the lowst I would put F2 would be 95.

Lets go over the "bad" things that F2 did:

- Temple of trials. Shitty first dungeon to start the game. As far as I am concerned, anyone that can't figure out how to pass this, shouldn't play the fucking game, but I agree it's boring and tedious the first time let alone the 10th time to redo the game.
- Tribal village you start in. Do I really have to explain that one?
- Meme pop culture references, that people not born at the time and in America might be able to not know at least half of them. But there definitely are a lot of them and some more annoying than others.
- Some might complain that the .223, the most powerful 1 handed gun in Fallout of which you could only obtain 1 of through a quest, is now avalaible everywhere. They forget that this gun was just a .223 rifle modified and cut down to a pistol. I'm personally more annoyed that it didn't seem as powerful in F2
- A lot of people seem to think that the game is "unbalanced and stupidly hard". It actually is kind of in hte begining, but again, I personally like that.

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>>384521857
Mad /fog/ poster spotted

>>384520463
I don't know about the latter, but the former is definitely tough if you're not a sneak character. Makes you consider every move and is very fun and challenging IMO.

>>384521942

- Also talking deathclaws, what ever

What F2 did right:

- Much more to do. It wasn't unrealistic to be finishing fallout 1 at around levels 15-20. F2 can easily get you to 30.
- Added a lot more things that improved the game, a gun that uses 4 AP to shoot, the car with the boot where you can store your shit, a button to "loot all" etc etc
- Story lines were still pretty good. Continuation of of most things realative to F1
- Didn't shit (or hardly did) on already established lore of F1
- New Reno, best zone.

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>>384521857
>the people who like the thing I don't are fat babies from reddit

I'll never understand what drives a person to do something like this. This is sub-political-comic level shit.

>>384522693
Talking deathclaws did nothing wrong

>>384521616
I also do the same with mod companions, like romancing a character in the mod Cotio ergo sum and then letting her get killed after a short while, letting 1 or 2 companions get killed by the final boss of new vegas bounties, or with one of the two added by saxxons quest collection I killed one intentionally in the middle of a firefight.

Is Fallout 1s story as good as that hbomber guy makes it out to be? Put hundreds of hours in 3 and NV back when they released, tried Fallout 2 and couldn't get into it, should I give 1 a proper try?

>>384523034
I don't know but play the game

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>>384521857

>>384512002
I played them all and boy are you wrong

Remember that time you cure a guy with FEV?

Fucking Fallout 4. The only good thing about it is the gunplay and that's because id helped them

>>384513320

> Playing Waifu Sim in a game with dogshit graphics.

Why? It'd be like adding sex mods to Dwarf Fortress.

>>384523938
>Remember that time you cure a guy with FEV?
You don't.

>>384523168
not an arguement, NV fag

>>384523938
It was uuuuuhhhhhh like a uh different kind of fev!!1!!

>>384524020
He sure isn't a mutie afterwards.
Unless you're implying someone else took his place and is fine living with all that radiation.

>>384524020
What are you talking about? You help Virgil cure his FEV infection in return for helping you access the institute. You don't have to give it to him but if you do he turns human again.

Unless you mean that it was only a cure for the institute's strain of FEV and not for the virus in general.

>>384524476
>>384524514
He tells you the cure is for a specific strain of FEV. It's not universal. Plus it was already said in Fallout 1 that FEV subjects could be cured with one condition (I think it required a sample of DNA or something).

>>384512208
saved, this is some top tier bait

>>384511021
>not going to the casino, holding down 4 and 2 and making infinite money the legit way
Pleb

>>384509175
Fallout 2 would trigger peeps hard today with talking deathclaws and shit

>>384524514
>cure his FEV infection
that would be great, but the research logs at the West Tek research facility in Fallout 1 tells us that FEV acts almost immediately.

>>384524768
>kill the khans
>money for life

Replaying Fallout 3. At the part where you're working on Project Purity with Dad before the Enclave show up.
Dad instructs me to head to the very bottom of the sub-basement to turn on a generator or some shit.
Then he tells to head back upstairs for my next set of directions.
Once I get there, he hands me a set of fuses, and instructs me to use them to get a fusebox for the pump control working.
The fusebox is in the sub-basement.
The sub-basement I just came from. Behind 3 loading screens.
My dad made me take two separate trips for no reason.

THANKS EMIL

>>384524983
Exactly which is why literraly turning Virgil from mutie to human is bullshit

>>384524650
Don't trip over yourself backpedaling

>>384524993
how do you get money for life from killing the khans? the other day i walked in there and killed papa khan as he was eating dinner

>>384507712
It's mentioned in like every fallout.

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>>384524057
I raise your bait overreaction comic and refute with my superior tier list

>>384525179
We're talking about fallout 1 not nv

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>>384509224

Fallout 1 is the best in the series, only plebs disagree.

Fallout 1 = short, quality over quantity thematically strong narrative about surviving in a post-apocalyptic world.

Fallout 2 - LMAO TALKING DEATH CLAWS WHY NOT? B-but it has more guns so it must be better!

>>384525353
This is true

>>384525329
fuck

i should really play it huh, how long would it take to get into, complete a first playthrough?

>>384525446
Like 10 hours maybe. http://user.tninet.se/~jyg699a/fallout.html

>>384524650
An ass pull, if true.
Expect nothing less from Bethesda, they raped Fallout enough
>ghoul in the fridge

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Is it possible to make a sneaky sniper character in NV and not be overpowered as hell?

>>384525353

To be fair, they almost had a settlement of talking raccoons in 1

>>384525353
But it didn't rape the lore and actually had less voice acting

>>384525093
From the West Tek ZAX
>No. FEV does not retain unaltered original copies of the subject's DNA. Only a virus which re-infected the subject with original DNA could reverse the effects. Additionally, there is no known way to remove the FEV itself.
So you could actually reverse the effects. Plus, keep in mind the West Tek FEV strain is implied not to be the same as the Institute's, so the ZAX's info may not be true to all strains.

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>>384507598
Is there snow in Fallout 4?

I'm playing New Vegas right now, it's a fun time

They should let Obsidian or someone competent make a Fallout 4 game with good writing and snow

>>384514687
>>384514001

Being that Elijah is the most intelligent person in New Vegas, arguably on the same level as the Master, him being trapped in that vault for good is highly unlikely.

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>>384514898
I don't get why you do, they just look like Hulk blobs, especially with that hairstyle.

>>384525548
You have to remember that at this point in time, there are no good writers left at Bethsoft. In fact, there's barely a writer.

All those quests you liked in Morrowind and Oblivion? The guys that wrote em are all gone. Only Emil remains. Emil and his fucking daddy issues that he forces into every game.


I think their voice director deserves special recognition for all the terrible performances they have overseen. Almost every single line is read as if the actor is reading the paper in front of them for the first time.

>>384525353
you do realize your'e talking about the game that was originally planned to have talking raccoons in it don't you?

>>384525548
>>ghoul in the fridge
No worse than F2 meme encounters.

I just realized, I've never once modded New Vegas.
212 hours played and all vanilla.

What mods would you guys recommend?

>>384525856

Fallout 3 was originally planned to be a brilliant masterpiece, let's focus on this alleged planned version instead of what the actual game turned out to be.

>>384525868
Oh yeah and Fallout 2 also had fucking Skynet show up with the implication that it caused the great war

>>384525868
Which one in fallout 2 is worse than something that completely destroys a big lore point like kid in a fridge

>>384512002
Fallout 4 way too high on that list when contending to be a Fallout game agaisn't other fallout games, NV can drop down to F2's level.

>>384526045
Better than aliens

>>384526080
The Dr. who one. Because the answer to the question "Is there anything worse than x" is ALWAYS Dr. Who

>>384525523
should i buy it or pirate it

also any tips going in or would going in blind be best

>>384526291
But it doesn't fuck the lore. It's just there in a random encounter

>>384526249
C U T
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It was never in the shipped game. I guess you could say it's stuck in limbo and will never see the light of day. Like Black Isle's Fallout 3 ;)

>Bitch about fallout 2 'memes'
>Like New Vegas

I like Obsidian as much as the next guy but the bethesda damage post 3 was already done

>>384526291

You mean in Fallout 1? Because the Tardis was in Fallout 1, you dunce.

>>384526297
Definitely Pirate.
Bethesda now owns the rights to the Interplay games after scamming them.

>>384526297
No one's getting money for the game so you can pirate it. I would say just look for a build you like

>>384526297

If you can find a physical copy of "Fallout Trilogy" buy that. Otherwise pirate.

>>384510417
Get the power armour early in the game, is not hard to get some x rads a rope.

The difference between joke encounters in first Fallout games and the Aliens did World War 3 in 3 or the ghoul in the fridge in 4.

Is simply that, F1/2 don't take those seriously and they're just jokes.

but F3/4 make those stupid jokes canonical.

This is exactly why Fallout: New Vegas had wild wasteland as an option.

>>384526080
You've clearly not played Fallout 2, or at least in a long time
See >>384526045

>>384526249
Aliens were in F1/F2 already

>>384526417
>But it doesn't fuck the lore. It's just there in a random encounter
And F4 makes it a minor side quest that has zero influence on the game whatsoever, most likely as a nod to Indiana Jones. I don't really understand why do people get assmad over it.

>>384526080
The time travel stone where you break the waterchip and cause the events of the first game.

>>384526737

>Aliens were in F1/F2 already

As a non-canon luck based random encounter, yeah. Unless you want to argue that the events of Hitchhiker's Guide are canon to Fallout.

>>384526768

Non-canon reference to Star Trek.

>>384526768
Except the canonical explanation for the waterchip breaking was the vault test, and it was explained in F2.

The difference between stupid shit in 1 and 2 is that we can ignore them, because they're not canonical.

But we can't ignore anything in 4 or 3, because Bethesda canonizes everything they do.

>>384526875
>non-canon
What tells you it's non canon?
There are BoS scribes in F1 that says they've seen a spaceship before, and the Shi Emperor talks about it as well?

>>384527014
By that logic you could call any shit you dislike out of any game "non-canon".

>>384526875
So everything you don't like is non-canon? Awfully convenient. I played those games. I ran into aliens. It wasn't in some spinoff title. Get real.

>>384519930
the only companion i had die in
any fallout was dogmeat (1) in the mariposa base
it really got me down so i decided to kill the master instead of talking him down

>>384526737
Ok let me explain. The doctor who thing is tied exclusively to a random encounter. The game very obviously tells you this is something not really related to the lore. Kid in a fridge has a character from a faction that literraly tells you ghouls don't need to eat or drink. Nothing about it obviously tells you it's a non canon side thing. Unless you consider all side quests to be non canon

>>384527136

So you're saying that all the easter eggs in Fallout 1/2 are 100% canon to the games? That the Boulevard of Broken Dreams is a real place and that Star Trek, Doctor Who, and Hitchhiker's Guide are all in the same universe as Fallout?

>>384527214

>he thinks Wanamingoes are aliens

>>384527086
>But we can't ignore anything in 4 or 3, because Bethesda canonizes everything they do

This is an arbitrary point to make and means ultimately nothing. 3&4 are just as canon as 1&2.

Voiced protagonists were a mistake.

>>384520458
i will always love fallout 1 more for it's atmosphere
as soon as i met the dumb farmer in 2 i knew there was something wrong

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>>384527093

Spaceships are real, yes.

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>>384527302
>Unless you consider all side quests to be non canon
Whether you consider it to be canon or not is subjective. I consider it as non canon because it's supposed to be a nod to Indiana Jones at foremost.
But then it's silly to argue over seriousness in the lore of a game where stuff like radiation and FEV work like magic.

>>384527384
>he thinks Wanamingoes are aliens
Nah but if that makes your "head canon" easier then go ahead

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>>384507259
Uhh you don't get to bring muties.

>>384527572
I'm not asking for seriousness im asking for internal consistency. And if they wanted a fucking indy reference they could have done it like obsidian.

What's with Bethesda's family fetish?

>>384527423
They're fine if implemented properly. Bethesda is too lazy/understaffed/incompetent to take the time to do it right

Wanamingos aren't aliens
Aliens were made canon in fallout3

>>384527793
>I'm not asking for seriousness im asking for internal consistency

So you must hate Fallout 2 then?

>>384527793
>And if they wanted a fucking indy reference they could have done it like obsidian.
Maybe they wanted something better than just a fridge with a skeleton in it? Or are you referring to the WW trait acting as a filter for more goofy stuff?

>>384527619

Then where did you encounter aliens? The only aliens in the games are in a random encounter in 1, the same kind of random encounter that can include the Tardis, the talking Brahmin, the dinosaur footprint, etc. which are all easter egg as fuck.

>>384509002
Looks like a dumb cow

>>384527816
EMIL

>>384509002
Aw cute it has little ears and stupid eye holes, enjoy your limited FOV

>>384527968
If you played the game you'd know. The exact encounter was already mentioned in this thread.

>>384528107
They don't need to see when their main battle tactic is shooting automatic fireballs in every direction

>dogmeat
>a german shepard
>after 200 years of gross radiated dog humping
Good job Bethesda.

>>384527923
I'm not going to say that fallout 2 doesn't have a lot of stupid shit but at least the random encounter system filters most of it out

F2 dogmeat is not canon.

>>384528353
It obviously came from a vault where every dweller was a dog.

>>384528540

K-9 is better anyway.

>>384521353
>>384512461
Please tell me you're not memong?
Is there really a fallout mmo?

>>384528723

Don't bother, it's plagued with Russians.

>>384528353
I know he's a Shepard in 4 but in 3 he looked more like a blue heeler

I could be remembering it wrong because I barely used him in 3. By far the worst companion.

>>384528723
Fallout online

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>>384528353
"Dogmeat" is a synth in Fallout 4. Same with all the normal looking birds you see flying around.

They're all synth spy cameras for the institute.

>>384529152
You just made me remember the Institute and their bullshit thanks.
Now I'm mad

>Just finished Fallout 4
Okay, so despite having more negatives I can list about the game than postives, I otherwise had fun. Fallout 4 is shallow, and has abysmal writing, but the gunplay and exploration was really fun. It feels like the best way to enjoy Fallout 4 is to ignore the main story and focus on building your own world. I just got a PS4 and was going to play more games, but I'm feeling tempted to just start a new playthrough on survival mode with mods.

>>384529481
Wide as an ocean deep was a puddle but it's fun to splash in the puddle I guess.
>ps4
Ouch really bad mod selection. I suggest immersive gameplay

>>384525686
How so? The vault literally cannot be opened again. The elevator is blocked. There are no controls down there either.

>>384512208
Holy shit son you must've been raped every night of your life to have taste this bad, I'm not even mad; I just feel sorry for you.

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>>384529481
>Ps4
>Mods

>>384513451
...wait a minute

>>384512208
>>384512373
>>384512452
>>384513131
>>384513320
>>384520862
>>384524735
>>384530078
>replying to obvious bait images
this guy even explained the joke >>384513131

>>384518143
> Not using the Wattz 2000 laser rifle
> Dropped

>>384530493
>Fallout 3 era
>ever giving a shit about the glorious boyarsky artstyle

>>384530493
>>384530891

My problem with the 3 style energy weapons is that they all look prone as fuck to fouling in combat situations whereas the Wattz et al from 1/2/Tactics look fully contained and harder to fuck up

Then we're told that the military dropped the Wattz and stuff for the 3 designs in lore tidbits

Honestly, that big fucking MFC is going to pop out the instant you have to shoulder that thing

>>384527816
Bethesda always make the main characters special in some way. Because they can't pull their TES ''chosen one'' story in Fallout, they use his relatives and backstory in order to make him special. I don't know why they do that, but I vastly prefer being a nobody like in F1 and NV or a small ''chosen one'' like in F2.

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>>384531407
>ywn Have a fully properly animated wattz 2000

>>384520032
Same here. A friend was telling me about some mods, needed to update shit and then it all shit it's self. Oh well I was getting tired of jumping though hoops for TTW shit (I like the mod and the idea too it but patching everything, or finding the patches and patches for patches sometimes on their shitty site gets old), so a fresh install is welcomed in honestly.

>>384521562
Can't speak for him or others, but I just like modding. I find the whole thing fun, and most of the time shit doesn't fuck up too bad but some times it does. This time I'm just gonna keep a selection of mods and stick with it, it's gonna be over 20 though easily.

>>384528723
Sure is. Fonline reloaded. Check it out. Bunch of russians turned fallout2 into an mmo. Full loot, full pvp all the time. Its a bit less brutal if you've got mates to play with but still pretty fucking rad solo.

Frank Horrigan did nothing wrong.