name a more overrated console

n64

Nintendo Switch™

>>384163539
no

>>384163438
snes

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People actually thought this was better than the PS4 and Xbone

PS4
PS3
Xbox 360
Wii
Gamecube
Saturn
PC Engine
Master System

xbox 360

>>384163573
also no

gamecube

NES

>>384163663
Oh yeah, forgot the Tropical Freeze machine.
>>384163651

>>384163438
n64

Atari 2600

>>384163539
no
>>384163573
no
>>384163635
yes
>>384163651
yes
>>384163663
wii was fine unless you mean in terms of sales, and the saturn is a piece of shit

>>384163438
The ps2 was great though.
Ps4 and Ps3 on the other hand are shit tier which is a shame because the PS4 controllers are arguably the best controllers on the market.

>>384163438
>t. angry Nintendo shill

>>384163438
PS4

>>384164292
>switch
>no game machine
>no xD
want to know how I'm 100% sure you're retarded?

>>384163539
>>384163774

>>384164593
Not him but I can't name more than 5 ps4 exclusives that aren't weeb garbage.

>>384164593
>>no xD
please point out where the xD was in my reply because i sure aint seeing it
the switch is fine as it is, the ps4 is still beating it in sales you moron

>>384164710
okay...what does that have to do with the switch exactly?

SNES

>>384163438
Sega Saturn, duh....

>>384163438
all other consoles you love

You got me, OP. A lot of the exclusives have aged poorly and most multiplats are better on xbox or gamecube.

>>384163438
NES
N64
Wii U
Saturn

Too easy m8

>>384163539
fpbp

>>384164710
You make the PS4 sound much better than it is.

>>384164757
>switch is fine
>lots of features that should be in it for free are sold separately or non existent.
yea no, try again sweety

>>384163438
sage

>>384164791
SNES deserves the praise it gets. Nintendo at their prime and the highest quality third party support on any Nintendo console.

>>384164906
On GameCube no.
On Xbox yes.

>>384163438
Sure.
>Nintendo Switch.
>N64.
>Saturn.
>Dreamcast.
>SNES.

>>384163438
PS1 on par of it.

Crash, Spyro, Final Fantasy 7-8-9, Resident Evil 1-2-3 and all that stuff are overrated crap. People treat them as "classics" just because they played them as children and we all know people is NOT objective on memories from their childhood

>>384163539
first post best post

>>384165058
>SNES deserves the praise it gets
It's a good console but don't kid yourself that it gets a disproportionate amount of praise considering that Genesis and even TG16 were about equally good.

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Done.

>>384165058
SNES is like the best console ever made homeys. It's games aged well as fuck and there were both Nintendo classics, Square & Enix in their best era, and tons of 3rd parties when they were a lot less concerned about pleasing normies because normies didn't care about vidyagaems before PS1 and it's normie marketing.

>>384163539
Fip Bip

>>384165679
Genesis was a lot more limited in it's game choice. You had some platformers, nice shmups and fighting games, but few other stuff. SNES could satisfy all tastes.

>>384163438
dreamcast - memory card had batteries

N64 and Saturn

>>384166031
>dreamcast
>overrated
>implying anybody bought one
Underrated if anything.

>>384166031
Not needed for it to function as a memory card. The batteries are just for mini games on the go.

>>384165963
>Genesis was a lot more limited in it's game choice
Spoken like somebody who doesn't know anything about Genesis

>>384166031
>dreamcast
>overrated
uhhhhh

>>384166031
Only 9 mill Dreamcast were sold, less than the Wii U

Overrated

Hmmmm

Every popular console is massively overrated. People go on and on about 'how many great games there were' meanwhile every console likely has 4-7 actual good games

>>384163438
It had the biggest library of any console and had the longest life cycle to boot. It's not overrated, it's gained it's popularity through sheer numbers and time.

>>384165679
>and even TG16
I can't even come up with an insult worthy of such stupidity.

>>384166031
OP said overrated, not underrated.

>>384165771
I hope you know you could play all SNES games on PS2 anon

>>384166309
Actually I had one in my childhood and I wore it out, but I wanted a SNES cause a lot of games I was curious about were there

>>384166736
As much as I love the TG16 it's library doesn't even compare to the MD and SNES.

>>384166427
>>384166391
>>384166250
People who own one praised it highly. It was actually shit.

Rating =/= popularity you fucking illiterate niggeredditors

>>384166874
And you can play all PS2 games on PS3 fat (or PC but that's another story), but it doesn't make it less of a failure.

>>384165297

That is the case with the N64 though, people remember it because they replayed the same 5 games all the time (all the console had)

>>384166736
>>384166903
Depends what genres you like. If you hate JRPGs and platformers but like arcade-like games then TG16 easily matches or exceeds SNES.

>>384166905
Sonic Dreamcast games sucked ass. They ascended to legendary status because they're nice to see on gameplays for their kinky music and colour graphics, but they're really, really bad to play. Worst 3D platformers after Crash Bandicrap. I regretted so much buying an old DC and those games.

>>384167184
SNES also had like the best arcade conversions, just think about Street Fighter II.

360. The original models of PS2 or SNES didnt have a 60% fail rate

>>384167207
True. Rest of the library is gold though.

Also, fun fact: Most Adventurefags are actually Gamecube toddlers.

>>384167207
Crash isn't a 3d platformer.

And it's not crap either (the firt three)

>>384167115
At least they were good games, even though they were really a small quantity. PS1 had lots of stuff but most of it as I said is overrated shit. Only Ape Escape was good.

>>384163438
ps4
ps3
nintendo wii

>>384163539
First reply is the optimal reply. Can't name 5 above-average games.

>>384167490

Not really, 64's library doesn't come close to the quantity and median quantity of PS1's library, if you don't like that's another thing

>>384167445
It's a 3D platformer, only an unoriginal and shitty one (yes, the first three were crap). The first one is actually a candidate for worst game ever, the 2nd and 3rd are slightly better but still awful. Retards think they were "hng hardcoor cause they hard" while they only had loose crappy controls and sketchy physics that made them hard. And a platformer whose controls feel like shit is already a failure.

>>384167665
Overrated means people think its good

>>384167765

median quality*

>>384167675
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Mario 64
Goldeneye 007
Banjo Tooie

Here they are

>>384167339
Street Fighter II's conversion on SNES is very overrated. It's the most slowdown ridden version, the arranged soundtrack is very inconsistent in quality, is censored, and is missing features in the other versions (yes, even Turbo).

The Genesis version would literally be perfect if it wasn't for the crackly voice-overs and the slightly poor color palette choices (a mod actually fixes the latter). But in terms of gameplay, it's perfect. Same with TG16, which has its own strengths and weaknesses. But SNES is the worst version when it comes to gameplay.,

>>384167675
I'll bite.

MK64
SF64
SM64
BK
OoT
MM
Smash
Mario Party

>>384167858
not really
something can be complete shit and still be overrated if people just think its kinda bad

>>384167816

Crash Bandicoot is more platformer than Mario 64 will ever be and also doesn't look like its made of Windows 95 tier 3D renders

>>384163438
PS3 is the only correct answer.
>Runs awfully
>Terrible library selection
>The Cell™ causes developers to struggle with their games
>Focus on cinematic experiences started with this console

>>384167490
>this is was N64 babbies think
Syphon Filter
Tombi
Xenogears
Metal Gear Solid
Tekken
MediEvil
THPS
Gran Turismo
Spyro
Resident Evil
Silent Hill
Parasite Eve
Dino Crisis
GTA 2
Vagrant Story
Legacy of Kain
Oddworld
Alundra
Star Ocean
Team Buddies
Worms
CTR

And this is just off the top of my head m8

>>384167765
It's pretty objective that Crash, Spyro, Final Fantasy 7 to 9 and early Resident evil were crap. I agree about ps1 having good games, but the most praised ones which are recognized as """classics""", have been mistified by Sony shill press and retarded kids who think everything they played as children was gold. That's the mindset of most fake nerd normies who infest game communities like /v/ or Gamefaqs actually.

>>384167816
>he couldn't beat crash as a kid or a full grown adult
Bahahahahahaha

>>384167816
[Citation needed]
It sounds like you have shit taste. Crash sold and was received amazingly well Even the remake killed it.

Stay salty bro.

>>384168345
Like half of these games aren't exclusive to PS1 dude

>>384167968
>Metaknights 64
>Street Fighter 64
>Burger King
>Out of Titles

>good
Nice try bucko

>>384168352
>Crash, Spyro and FF7 were crap
Couldn't you shit on the actually dated games like MGS instead?

>>384167946
The same ones everyone mentions yay.

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>N64
Best multiplayer games
>PS1
Best singleplayer games

>>384168352

It's not objective, that's only in your contrarian nintenbabby head, as soon as one of those games gets ported to a Nintendo console (like with RE2) it's suddenly renowned and good.

The fact is that N64 was the nostalgia console of kids that missed out on everything cool that generation and every try to undermine the PS1 comes off as bitter self-deception and buyer's remorse

>>384168036
You're right. It's more of a 3D platformer because Mario 64 was simply a masterpiece which would define 3D gaming in it's whole and limiting it to a genre definition doesn't really express how great it was.


And Crash's graphics actually look like they were rendered on an MS-DOS PC.

>>384168481
They were made for the system more or less.

>>384167816
>It isn't 3d
>reeeee yes it is
>>384168352
>trying to bait this hard
Have a couple (you)s for your hard work my lad

>>384168481
Even counting the multiplats on N64, you won't get that number of decent games

>>384168640
>makes you repeat each level 5 times to hide how tech demo esque it really is

>>384168345
Funny how they're all overrated crap which aged as shit except Xenogears which is only for JRPG hardcore fans.

>>384168640

Mario 64 is a tech demo with good mechanics but shitty camera, level design and aesthetics, every single Mario game is better, specially 2D Marios, Oddysey will make you understand how shitty was Mario 64 back then and how shit It's today still

>>384168502
I just played mgs for the first time what are you talking about. The gameplay holds up great

>>384168921
>dude half of them aren't exclusive
>HAHAHA THE ONES I DIDN'T HAVE AGED LIKE SHIT
go jerk off your switch or whatever

>>384168986
The gameplay fucking sucks, it's a looser MG2 with tacked on 3D gimmicks.

>>384168368
Yeah, I wasn't autistic to the point of torturing myself to the end of that crap and I went playing some decent games like Metroid or Castlevania. Oh, right, Castlevania SotN is maybe the only PS1 game that really deserves it's praise.

>>384168940
All Odyssey is making me understand so far is how shit 64 would have been without momentum building on moves.

>>384169145
>metroid
>n64
Hahahahahahaha fuck off

>>384168476
And, since when do masses have good taste? Even assassin's Creed, CoD and Madden sell like hell and receive great praise on shill press sites.

>>384163539

Correct.

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There are people that think this level design and graphics are acceptable for even 1996

They literally took the test room and made it a level, what a clusterfuck

>>384169145
>i-Its the controls n-not my skill
Bahahahahahaha

>>384163539
FPBP

>>384169278
That means Mario 64 and OoT are uber shit

Mario 64 sucks only Mario I never beat

>>384163438
PS2 had the most games and was the most versatile console at the time. It deserves amazing ratings. I owned a gamecube as well, which i vastly enjoyed.

>>384169390
That level design was unrivaled in 96, actually.

>>384168632
RE2 sucks ass both on Ps1 and n64. It's you who suffer normie syndrome and can't accept that what the masses like can be bad. I'm not even a Nintendo hardcore fan, I simply like good games and all that shitty titles aren't in the list.

Else, tell me what's so good about Crash games and show me thst you can actually make a good discussion, instead of dwelling in your "muh taste".

>>384169608

No, It's clunky shit that doesn't take advantage of Mario's mechanics, it feels slow as fuck and looks like shit. Crash's levels and animations looked a lot better in the same year

>>384169656
-The easy to learn but hard to execute platforming
-Addictive and minimalistic formula
-Memorable characters
-Great controls
-Graphics

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>>384163438
Hey idiot at least it had fun games to play. U don't understand why you idiots rather shit on consoles than talk about actual games.

>>384169656
>Y-your just a normie REEE
End it

TOP N64 GAMES THAT PEOPLE DON'T NORMALLY MENTION

1080 Snowboarding
Blast Corps
Body Harvest
Doom 64
Excitebike 64
F-Zero X
Goemon's Great Adventure
Jet Force Gemini
Mischief Makers
Mystical Ninja
Ogre Battle 64
Pilotwings 64
Pokemon Puzzle League
Sin and Punishment
Wave Race 64
World Driver Championship
Wonder Project J2

>>384169940
See now this I can respect.

>>384169786
May I remind you Crash levels were simple hallways featuring enemies with looped patterns. All that whining for years and you didn't even support the remake, shame on you.

>>384163539
I got mine a bit later on for cheap to play the exclusives that I missed out on, which were all great. However I am very glad I had a Playstation as a kid instead.

>>384169656

Crash games are technological marvels that have fair but challenging difficulty for a kid, they are linear but promote replayability with gems and 100%ing the game, the graphics and animations were better than anything that year, including Mario 64, which aged like dickcheese, the platforming is simple but addictive and changed a lot with every level, the OST was fantastic also

>>384170046
And Mario's levels were open constrained cubes with tons of annoying pop in that kicked you out 5 times before completion.
Your point?
Spyro did it better.

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>>384170138
>the graphics and animations were better than anything that year
almost my friend...almost

but so far...so far...

>>384170209
Spyro's levels weren't very open, usually it was just one wide path bent into a circle.

>>384169940
>Blast Corps
>Body Harvest
>Jet Force Gemini
Ignore these, nostalgia fueled picks. Rest is good though.

>>384170209
>Spyro did it better.
I thought you were complaining about no platforming? Make up your mind.

>>384169858
>The easy to learn but hard to execute platforming
Not really a point as you could say that for every platformer, but as I said it was hard only for the loose and shitty controls. Level design was a crappy badly 3D transposed ripoff of DKC.
>Addictive and minimalistic formula
Addictive if that was the only game you had and you were in 3rd grade.
>Memorable characters
I literally don't remember any of them except Crash and the shitty generic scientist.
>Great controls
lmao
>Graphics
Lmao x2

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>>384170326

Anything but that actually, maybe just the first world?

>>384170395
I was talking about open ended level design.
Spyro made it look far more natural despite being just as clunky if not more.

I liked both I'm tired of this.

>>384169940
This you fucking retards

>>384170441
OK.

>>384170441

Why are you defending yourself with emotions? You are basically saying you didn't like the game because you didn't like it, perhaps you should stop baiting?

>>384170138
>For a kid
Says it all.

Also, technological marvels made me laugh, well memed.

Faggots will NOT shut up about the 3DO and it's EXPLOSIVE DRIVE GRAFIX

>>384163539
This
>muh Mario 64
>muh OoT

>>384170695
He's true, the Crash games really pushed the envelope for PS1 graphics.
The reason the game is structured as a corridor snoozefest is so they can just stream all the occlusion data from the disc and render a ton of polygons without Z-fighting.

>>384170728
n64 sometimes gets more credit than it deserves, but both of these titles are undeniable and very influential classics

>>384170209
>Spyro did it better

The amount of muh PlayStation kids here is really too toxic, guess I'm gonna leave

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>>384170695
That's the demographic video games used to target

>>384170871
>using the word toxic
yeah you're probably better on tumblr

>>384170687
Why do you have to go on about taste when you have no more arguments? It's a vg board, we discuss videogames. If we all wanted to just be left alone with our tastes we would not go here.

>>384170871

It must have triggered the times when Sonychad kids bullied you in elementary school

>>384170979
>Telling people to go on tumblr
>On the 4chan board whose userbase is like 99% shared with it

>>384171059

Dunno man, the one lmaoing at things without arguments was you

>>384171260
You're sharing with us a made-up fact before leaving? How noble of you

>>384170846
>is so they can just stream all the occlusion data from the disc and render a ton of polygons without Z-fighting.
Your explanation of what they accomplished is a little butchered senpai. The streamed occlusion data basically means that PS1 doesn't have to sort depth, doesn't have to do clipping, and has zero overdraw.

It's so much of a clever trick that I'm wary of calling Crash a technical marvel. It's ingenious but at the same time, it's basically equivalent to partially pre-rendering the scene by handing the PS1 console already computed 3D data.

>>384171260
Are you lost, sweetie?
>>>/co/

>>384171080
Funny how PlayStation fans always go on about personal attacking Nintendo fans who were bullied, who were excluded because they didn't play the hip games and shit like that, instead of just talking about games.

I guess that's what playing those games is all about, felling less of a loser because you play the trending thing. It was Crash and Spyro in the 90s, it's CoD/LoL/whatever now.

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GameBoy . You'll realize this when you take off the nostalgia goggles

Did Crash steal your gf dude?
I mean, I hate some games too but you sound like you've had therapy over those games.

>>384171347
Y'know, saying any PS1/N64 game's graphics are enjoyable today, and more than that, that not only Crash's controls weren't bad but that they were a good part of it, is just ridiculous.

>>384171564

I was kinda shitposting before, bullying Nintendo kids was an actual thing?

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>>384171564
>he was actually bullied

>>384171564
Pro-tip:
>it was your attitude not your console

>>384171441
It's the logical next step after running an FMV in the background. I'm totally in agreement that it's technically impressive, but it illustrates that there was more effort put into being a tech demo than an actual playable game.

Insomniac's games were much better at being both technically stunning and actually good games.

>>384171564
Yeah that's right.

>>384171628
This is a clear example of it. Hell, can't we just discuss videogames without going on like this every time someone disagrees with us? The same nature of the thread implies it would be flamey

>>384171564

You kinda deserved it for being autistic Nintendo Power consumers with cringey voices and playing Wahoo Man over 5 to be honest

>>384171754
No one was actually bullied, PS fans want to think that to justify missing good games

>>384171859
I find the Spyro games more technically impressive personally because they looked good despite not being able to cheat like Crash by having the game on rails. Though you could argue that the real secret to Spyro's visuals is the artstyle rather than anything else.

Rayman 2 was good.

>>384171564
Shit son he was just joking

>>384172196
I agree, even though I wouldn't say the Spyro games looked as good.
Insomniac brought that magic to the PS2 too. I don't know too much about how it works technically, but the Ratchet games had some truly impressive level of detail effects, simply because it was hard to tell that it was even happening. In the first Ratchet game you can see the seams a little bit, as certain level geometry swells awkwardly while you approach it, but the latter games managed to cram a shitton of mipmapping and progressive scan into the PS2's pitifully tiny VRAM.
I can only speculate that their work on Spyro, working in an even more memory-constrained environment, was the reason they were able to accomplish that.

>>384163438
The ps2 deserves the praise it gets.
On the other hand, the GC get praised every day for being an absolute clusterfuck. Now that's an overrated console.

>>384172848
The PS1 didn't support mipmaps and getting conventional mipmaps working on PS2 was supposed to be an incredible pain in the arse, so yes they probably had to improvise some kind of special way of doing LOD.

>>384170728

I was one of the people who posted FPBP but I don't actually hate the N64. It's hype rides off the back of a few excellent games that came out at the right time at the right place but the overall library is a total desert.

>>384166309
Your sonic machine has nothing on the SNES...

SMW
Alttp
DKC trilogy
Super Metroid
FF 4,5,6.
Turtles in time
Megaman X games

And that is just the tip of the iceberg