Subnautica thread.

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My game goes from 40 fps to 5 fps after about 20 hours of playing. I've tried clearing my save file cache but it's still awful.

I've managed to maintain a tolerable frame rate by starting a new save and just using console commands for everything i need, blueprints included, but is there a better way?

>>383576940
You deleted both CellsCache and CompiledOctreesCache?

Other than that, there's not much you can do other than wait for an official patch.

>>383576468
bamp

Goynautica with the dev who says Americans have access to fully automatic weapons and experience school shootings "Every single day"
I'm glad I saw the warning signs with "early access" and "crafting survival"

>>383579668
That wasn't a dev, that was some retarded PR guy which the actual devs already told to fuck off.

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>that feel when "who are you?" for the first time

Haven't played this in ages. actually I've been afraid of playing it because I'm scared of the sea

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Brrrrrrrrrrpfffpfffffpfffff
brap

>>383581497
fuckin nerd crab

>>383579668
You people pick the most asinine reasons to not enjoy something. To hell with you all desu.

>>383579668
Except the game is finished late summer, early autumn and crafting is pretty straightforward without much grinding.
The difficult part is to find the resources.

>>383576940
hahaha toaster kill urself

>>383582571
>Except the game is finished late summer, early autumn
really?
I'm following the game for some time, even had it bought earlier, but I thought that honestly , this game won't be released from EA ever.

Man I hate the cartoony artstyle. This could have been the best semi-horror game ever.

>>383583482

An EA game "releasing" doesn't mean you'll have a finished product. They may just finish the story mode (which is what most of their updates have been) and never fix the optimization issues or shit like >>383576468.

When are pets coming in

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>>383583739
Nigga.

>>383583842
Next update afaik.

>>383584229
Funny story: They were supposed to do that shit this month and now it's been pushed to be "maybe one of these months". Every time someone tells you to check the trello they are a shill. It is well known they were supposed to release the game fully twice now and the trello lies constantly.

>>383583551
This
Everything looks so god damn goofy and laughably.

>>383580192
I restarted my game exclusively for this and it didn't happen until reaching the lava castle. I also managed to evade reapers for the whole game so that may have something to do with it

>>383584417
There's a big disclaimer on the trello roadmap saying everything there is subject to change. It's just supposed to give you a general idea of what is planned.

Yes they've pushed back dates before, but this time they seem to be on schedule. The story content is like 90% done already, after that it's just optimization and polish time.

Question: why can't I scan fish that are in my inventory?

>>383576940

maybe stop being a poor BR nigger

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we nuclear now!

>>383585371
you put the in a tank and scan them there or just release them to scan them in the water

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How do you get into subnautica?
I have bought it and only played for an hour of so

>>383585916
Are heat generators still OP as fuck?

>>383585916
Thermal reactors are better. Once you build them you don't have to worry about fuel.

>>383586084
But I am holding it in my hand right now.
Why can't I scan in it from here?

>>383586301
Because the game doesn't allow it, you twat. You going to sit there asking why you can't do it a certain way instead of just doing it a way that actually works?

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>>383586264
yes
>>383586270
well its good for the 2200 power

>>383586270
the fuel rods don't burn out in nuclear reactors.

>>383585916
>49.4 °C
Thermal insulation doesn't seem to exist in the far flung future of Subnautica.

Ghost Leviathan when?

>>383586937
They do. Each rod produces 10.000 units of energy. After that they are spent and have to be replaced.

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>>383584417
>development time estimates are not 100% accurate
call the fucking cops these madmen must be stopped

>>383585916
Still hoping for the ability to put one of these into the Cyclops.

There been any major changes to make this more challenging?

>play for 2 hours
>build cyclops
>can't die
>spend time eating and drinking

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>>383587702
>build cyclops
>can't die
Not anymore. Cyclops is now made out of a mixture of surprisingly flammable wet cardboard and boneshark attractant.

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Fucking aliens man

>>383584778
It's based on three things I think, the first time after playing a certain number of hours, second time after Precursor Gun (not sure) and the third time after Lava Castle.

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>>383588535

>>383587702

Yeah, the cyclops is a weak little bitch now.

>>383589063
>take three hits from a reaper because basic shield even breaks
>weak little bitch

>>383576940
I'm guessing you are dropping ton of shit to the ground from your inventory?

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I would be all over nuclear power if the rods weren't such a hassle.

>>383589290
>He hasn't encountered the reaper Leviathan Leviathan

>>383582329
it's a legitimate reason not to give them money

>>383587205
what do you do with the old ones?

>>383576468
I wanna start playing it again, but given the way it updates, I keep thinking that I'll just catch up and have to let it sit until more content is released...

Then again, the speed I play at, that's unlikely. Time to re-install I guess.

>>383589635
There's a bin specifically for them.

>>383589669
I don't think updates fuck with save games anymore.

>>383576468
So what is the purpose of the cyclops now besides hauling the PRAWN suit? You cant take it to reaper terratory and it cant have infinite power so there is no real reason to use it outside of moving the PRAWN suit close to a cave.

>>383589290
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bij45K8q7Po

>>383586968
Yeah I hate that aswell, Just seeing it in the bottom of my screen kinda breaks my immersion.

>>383590451
Mule for the stuff you gather with the Prawn.

>>383590451
With the thermal generator it charges itself in the lava zone. You can also load it with storage lockers and it provides a food/water supply with watermelons.

>>383590532
What kinda shit is this?

>>383590451
>You cant take it to reaper terratory
Only way you can't do that is if you intend to use it as a battering ram. Silent running last far longer than any Reaper or Dragon patrolpathing and they don't attack if the engine is off allowing you to leave and do whatever you needed to do after parking above it.

>>383590451
mobile base

>>383590451
Has the cyclops ever really had a reason?

>>383590640
How the fuck do you get the cyclops inside the lava zone? I am pretty sure it cant get in there and even if you get it in there it would probably get wrecked by the sea dragon

>>383590710
When it was indestructable it could be used to explore the dunes or the crashsite safely without reapers kicking its ass.
>>383590654
Did they buff its health or something, sneaking barley really works for me.

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>got the game last week
>started playing 30 minutes ago
>look up where to find creepvine to craft the fins
>need to go in some fuck no area that's inhabited by some kind of hammerhead shark

bros is there another way

>>383590451
>warning cavitating
>Boat the sub at the lowest speed
I fucking hate this

>>383590881
>likes the game
>wants to play it
>too fucking afraid
welcome to subnautica my friend

>>383590881
>>383590934
Stalkers arent that bad, take some bait or metal with you and drop it if they go after you it will distract them. If you have the seaglider you should be able to outrun them easily.
Now Crabsquids and Warpers those are scary

>>383590881
the stalker (the creature you are referring too) are usually occupied playing with random shit or chasing other fishes, unless they start groaning at you, you are fine, you can easily outrun them

>>383590736
Its doable, but the dragon and the fishes ate it, so it sank with all my goods.

>>383590824
>Did they buff its health or something
They gave it an Overshield in VotD. It's a basic shield that you get by default that has to be depleted before you even take any hull damage, Reaper needs to hit three times just to take it down. But just hitting SR and going past will get you through any Reaper bobbing about so I rarely ever get hit by one to begin with.

>>383590881
It gets a lot creepier than the kelp forests.

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explain this

>>383591105
Does this have to be posted every fucking thread?

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>>383590736
I haven't done it since the cyclops update, but you just kind of go down the drop off past the ghost tree and work your way though.

>>383579814
Why do you keep fucking lying about this shit? The guy who said that is a game developer

https://twitter.com/flayra?lang=en

Is there any fix for the awful stutters? And I have a good computer, so it's not that.

>>383591105
>>383579668
>Same fag is still assblasted
I dont care why the game has no guns, but adding guns would just make the game worse, it would either be to easy or they will be completly useless.

>>383590736
Going through the Kelp Zones is easiest. Crabsquid section is wider but full of Crabsquid, other one is narrower but the Overshield will tank any scraping hit you might take now anyway so still easy even before that, rest of the way is plenty wide so all you need to worry about is Sea Dragons and Lava Leaches. SR takes care of one, Defense Shield/removing manually takes care of the other.

>>383576940
what >>383577497
says,

delete both those folders, it should help. literally did it myself ~5 mins ago, do it every time im gonna play. it helps

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>>383591105
It's a meme

>>383591105

I understand a little where they're coming from, but I don't see why they had to get all ethical and preachy with it. Some games just don't need excessive weapons and are instead based on exploration and immersion. That's literally all that needed to be said on the matter.

>>383580192
Wait... What do you mean, is this a thing the game asks you?

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>>383591207
uh huh

>>383588535
Someone forgot to invert it when importing to Unity, I see.

>>383591293
Gun would still be shit though, time wasted into making the game worse, its better they add new area's instead and focus on what makes the game fun

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>>383591285

>>383590736
I did it yesterday, its doable. You gotta be careful as shit though, tons of enemies down there. Spooky

>>383591285
>He hasnt been contacted yet

>>383591105
Why doesn't this guy want to be at the top of the food chain? I mean I kinda like not being at the top in Subnautica but it feels like he's suggesting being at the top is a bad thing IRL.

>>383591105
I am pro gun to the max but who the fuck cares? News flash 90 percent of the games you play are made by liberal retards

>>383591469
>>383591384
The farthest I've gotten in the game's "plot" is the Sunbeam getting shot down, otherwise the most advanced thing I've built was a Moon Pool.

Which is weird because I remember a time in the distant past when I built the Cyclops all the time, back before the Scanner even existed.

>>383591384
Is this only triggered in the lava zone?

>>383591745
No. >>383588841

I haven't played this game in about a year, is it worth going back in to learn the new stuff or should I just wait for the full release before diving back in at this point

>>383591182
Only thing you can do is install the game on an ssd, and there's still some stuttering even then.

If you're running into bad stuttering/etc. after a couple dozen hours on a save file you can clear your cache files. The downside is that this also resets loot spawns, though that's usually not a huge deal by the time you're that far into the game.
https://steamcommunity.com/app/264710/discussions/0/144512875331190015/

It's caused the voxel terrain system which loads the map in chunks like Minecraft. Terrain modification was cut from the game, but the devs have kept the voxel system in for now because they use it to design the map. They have talked about baking the map into a static mesh once they've more or less finalized the map design. Hopefully that will happen in the next 3-4 months as they're doing their big optimization pass.

>>383591405
>spooky
>retarded enemies attacking over and over again
>have to manually extinguish the fires (or use the upgrade) and have to stop and repair the hull
>over and over again until you reach your destination

it was tedious as fuck, honestly the lava zone was the least spooky shit I'ever seen, same with the lost lake, fucking retarded maze

the game stops being scary after getting cyclops, honestly, at least the prawn is cool

>>383591583
>I mean I kinda like not being at the top in Subnautica but it feels like he's suggesting being at the top is a bad thing IRL
That's the liberal mindset for you, all competition is bad, so making a game where you are at the bottom rung of society and cannot climb any higher is his dream

>>383591827
Nah, there's still pretty much nothing to do in the game and absolutely no real threats.

>>383591827
There should be decent amount of new stuff for you to explore/do but it's a personal call. New saves should be compatible with updates from now on though according to devs.

>>383591827
Unless you're really itching to play you're better off just waiting at this point. It's supposed to leave EA in Sep/Oct. At that point you'll be able to play the story start to finish and the game should run smoother.

>>383591105
>they posted it again
That retard doesn't even work there anymore. He was talking completely out of his ass.
The game is simply not about fighting fish, if you want to fight fish, you're playing the wrong game. The aggressive fish are simply obstacles to avoid, and quite easily too.

Also;
>stasis gun + knife
>propulsion cannon (gravity gun)
>torpedoes

Realistically will stutter be fixed before 1.0??

>>383592043
>That retard doesn't even work there anymore
Why do you feel the need to lie? He still works there, check his twitter

https://twitter.com/flayra?lang=en

>>383592061
Baking the map into a static mesh over the voxel rubbish alone should help noticeable. Rest is wait and see but most of the upcoming work is optimization and finishing touches.

>>383592043
wew

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>>383591105
Do you think that continuously posting about this in every thread will miraculously make something happen?

>>383592228
Wait what? Why did they use voxels?

>>383592061
Depends whether or not they follow through with baking the map before then. That alone would get rid of the most of the stutter, but it's also a big job.

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dook dook

>>383592130
I must have been mistaken then, last I checked the guy who posted the stupid sandy hook shit left. Oh well you're just going to scream liar and dig your heels in further. I dunno why I even bother

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I honestly don't care that the developer posted that shit about why he hates guns but what irks me is 3 things

1. the people who deny he ever said it
2. the people who deny it was a game dev who said it
3. the people who say he doesn't work there anymore

I mean...all of these 3 things are immediately proven wrong in literally two seconds of searching

>>383592351
Originally there was a terraforming mechanic in the game but it caused massive performance issues and never really did much of worth, especially for the performance cost. They since removed it but are currently still using the voxels because they still are tweaking the map a lot so baking the map right now would be a waste of effort. Once the map is finalized they're doing it however.

>>383576940
I wrote a little .bat file that deletes those folders for you, just run it everytime before you start the game. You might've to change it a little, depending on your file paths and/or number of saves.

https://pastebin.com/Xh7dbsjH

>>383592351
There was originally plans for terraforming by moving dirt around. but it was a huge source of lag and really didn't add anything to the game. They've been slowly removing it for a while now. Last I checked Crashfish can still blow holes in the terrain.

>>383579668
>"Every single day"
it's true though amerinig

>>383591909
nigger, just run past it all. the scary part is the first time seeing the dragon, holy fuck it was so large

>then the other one shows up

>>383592351
Originally the game was going to be underwater Minecraft with terrain deformation and procedural generation.

Procedural generation was cut early on because they couldn't get the level of visual fidelity they wanted out of it.

Terraforming was cut much more recently for performance reasons and the fact that being able to dig tunnels and make islands kind of broke the game flow.

I haven't played since the silent running update months ago, have they ever fixed the bug where depth modules have to be removed and reinstalled in your seamoth and prawn suits, and have they balanced out the power generators and energy draw?

>>383592737
not yet

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Is it just me or a reapers giant retarded pussies?
>build seaglide thing
>immediately go over to the aurora
>reaper shows up
>swims around like a retard and gets stuck in a wall

Honestly, it's not even the creatures in subnautica that are scary. They all look retarded and cartoonish, the only reason this game is scary is because of the fear of the unknown and the deep, dark water. If you removed all fauna from this game, it would still be spooky, because deep dark water is inherently spooky

>>383590451
It's a mobile base. You build stuff in it like a fabricator, more storage, renewable food, etc. It's great for gathering supplies and recharging your smaller submersibles.

>>383592737
>bug where depth modules have to be removed
Not yet.

>balanced out the power generators and energy draw
One of the things currently being balanced.

>>383585916
>put a few lights around the base
>go explore
>come back to find nuclear rods sucked dry

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Big game hunter anon here. I bagged my first Dragon Leviathan and well uh..... just watch the webm. I accidently saved after killing this one so let's hope his ghost doesn't end up in the same place the last reaper I killed did.

>>383592941
Don't use spotlights unless you're on solar or thermal, they still need their energy consumption balanced.

>>383592968
How long does it take to knife that thing to death

>>383592830
Don't worry, there's worse things to worry about. Reapers are small time.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5JMl-ikcDE

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>>383592968
>dragons chase warpers
>kill dragon
>drown in warpers
You have only yourself to blame for the future.

>>383593012
Spotlights will drain you dry even on thermal. I've seen one anon use a bunch of Floodlights, so I don't know if they're busted too.

>>383592795
Disconcerting.

>>383592836
Good to know on that power balance. Shit got annoying really fast watching my nuclear reactor drink up rods to make a few bottles of water.

On an unrelated note, I don't understand why the devs thought it would be a good idea to make you travel to the floating island for standard Alterra blueprints that should be in the hard drive of the builder.

>i am using an alterra habitat builder
>the degassi survivors built the same habitats i do
>therefore we have the same builder
>where did they get their general purpose room, planters, bulkheads, observation room, spotlights, and a few other things from?

>play gmae
>endgame is just scouring sea floor for blueprint parts

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>>383593059
I spent a couple minutes with the thermal knife and a couple minutes with the prawn arms. Doable but tedious. I can't wait for the ghost leviathan to be added so I can bully it as well.

>>383593245
>I don't understand why the devs thought it would be a good idea to make you travel to the floating island
I'd imagine that one is mostly a vehicle to drive you forward and explore the floating island instead of just building a big base first thing, because after that you get sent onward by diaries and shit found there. Then again I'd argue you wouldn't be playing this if you didn't want to explore in the first place, but eh.

>>383593359
>try to kill ghost in void
>it drops you

>>383591105
He's 100% right

>>383593245
Degasi wasn't an Alterra ship, iirc.

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>>383593538
>try to kill ghost in void
>it drops you

The ones in the lost river and grand reef are certainly doable. For the ones in the void I'll have to lure above ground using the cyclops or seamoth then stun and kill with the prawn. Leviathans were made to be bullied.

>>383593810
>The ones in the lost river and grand reef
Grand Reef and Sea Treader's Path are young adults, but the Lost River one is basically a child. That's barely one step above the actual baby in the Cove Tree. Is it really big game hunting if they're wee little babs.

Just got my fins, what should I focus on after that ? I wanna make a builder but I can't find gold anywhere

>>383593351
Anon.... that's the MIDgame....

going to the void should be like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g33PYjkPy0s

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>>383593810
>>383593945
Regardless of your choice of targets however, I'm just glad you've got a hobby.

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>>383593945
You have to kill the little ones or they come back when they're bigger and try to murder you for killing their parents. A sad and unfortunate truth.

>>383594294
Well hey someone's got to cull the leviathan population and it might as well be me.

>WHY ISN'T IT THE LOVECRAFTIAN HORROR GAME I'VE ALWAYS WANTED SHIT SUCKS DEVS JEWS ARGH!!

It isn't a Lovecraftian horror game because it's not supposed to be a Lovecraftian horror game, what is so hard to understand and accept about this incredibly basic concept?

>>383594294
Cherno was too good for this world

>>383594518
Who are you quoting?

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Speaking of all this deep-sea horror, what was that one game that was always in the gifs?

You know the one, the sonar imaging submarine that discovered the battleship hermit crab

>>383593945
I really hope the lost river ones are going to be non-aggressive, or my base is fucked.
>man this tree seems like a nice cool and safe place to build

>>383594617
Let's see.
>>383583551
>>383584426
for starters. This is in every single Subnautica thread, it's like people can't comprehend the fact that the game isn't supposed to be a Lovecraftian jumpscare simulator.

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>>383594456
>You have to kill the little ones or they come back when they're bigger and try to murder you for killing their parents
>COMING THIS FALL
>the anon who killed underwater bambi's mother
>and then underwater bambi for good measure

>>383594697
Two in the Lost River, no. Don't know about the little Cove Tree baby though.

>>383594606
Truth.

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the void sucks and its boring

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>>383594835
They wanna fix that in the july update.

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>>383594835
For now yeah.
I really hope they add an abyss biome after the release, and give us some new bigger subs.
I want to go down were the really scary things are.

>>383595001
>gun deactivation sequence
What?

>>383594835
>>383595001
I honestly just want an invisible wall (or maybe a real one? it is a quarantined zone after all), it's hard to tell when that ledge is a regular ledge or a ledge to nothing. The creatures aren't really going to fix it, it's either going to look stupid as fuck with creatures everywhere lagging your game, or it would still be way to easy to just accidentally go off the side.

>>383595156
>New leviathans bigger than the sea Emperor that are also immune.
Maybe in an expansion.

>>383595156
>out of all of the possible subs we got the most boring one
I'm hoping that at least we get a modding community that will add shit like this.

>>383595250
they deactivate the gun that was used in sandy hook

>>383595156
I really want the draconis

>>383595250
You'll need to deactivate the giant space gun that shoots anything that enters orbit. AKA, you, once you build a rocket to escape.

>>383595257
Music changes and the water colour changes as well. I doubt Ghosts are going pop out once you poke your nose a single inch into the Void though, you'll likely need to go in properly.

>>383595250
After you cure yourself you turn off the Precursor Gun, otherwise you can't leave to go home to the company so you can spend the next 100 years paying off your debt.

>>383595567
>Drafted into the colonial militia and forced to fight the Kharaa

I tried to get in this game some months ago but dropped it because gathering materials were a bit slow and I don't have that much time to play anymore...
Is the game any fun in Creative mode or should I just try again ?

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>>383595156
Why did they pick worst sub anyway
Also I bet last one is called SHARK or something

>>383595746
I think survival is the way to go, especially on your first playthrough. The game is really not that long, I'd say maybe 20-ish hours.

>>383594679
http://store.steampowered.com/app/446790/Diluvion/

>>383593683
Nah, he's not. You don't get fucking political when working in a business. All he needed to say was "this isn't a game about killing sea monsters". He didn't, he just wanted his PC points and for people to pay attention to him.

this game is niggers

>>383595776
Bottom two were never more than concept. Game was never large enough to accommodate them. She should've been in the film longer.

>>383595567
>Music changes and the water colour changes
Seriously? I've somehow never noticed that, granted I try to avoid the void like the plague. Still, personally I'd just prefer if it didn't exist.

>>383595345
Are even we getting mod support?

>>383595443
>>383595156
Draconis would be cool for an ultra deep abyssal plain sub. No windows due to the immense pressure, only cameras and sonar.

>>383595746
>>383595810
Creative is no fun because you don't even have to explore for fragments.
I personally prefer "freedom" because you still need to craft, avoid creatures, and find fragments, BUT it just cuts out hunger and thirst which are just busy work and not very interesting.

>>383595985
No, but it's possible, and people have expressed interest in modding once the game hits 1.0 and stops updating so "frequently".

There's actually some crazy bastard trying to make a multiplayer mod, but it's not very good.

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This game is a pile of shit on Xbox one. They keep releasing all the current updates and adding shit but it's barely fucking playable. What's the point????

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Going into the Lost River from the Northern blood Kelp Forest entrance and the Deep Grand Reef Entrance will be a lot more harrowing now.

>>383595965
>Still, personally I'd just prefer if it didn't exist
I prefer a empty spook area over invisible walls really. The game pretty much takes place on a shallow plateau surrounded by deep dark depths filled with pelagic spoops like the Ghost. Go into the Void with a Cyclops once and you'll immediately be able to tell afterwards if you're close to a likely Void section.

>>383596350
>unfinished unoptimized early access game
>console
You have only yourself to blame. Could be worse, you could be playing ARK on a console.

This game needs to be about 3 times bigger in terms of world size.
Survival is not a factor so "adventure" is all it has to offer. And you manage to see everything way too easy

>>383596124
removing hunger/thirst removes the incentive to build a lot of things though

aquariums and gardens become virtually useless, and the vehicles become less essential when you can swim infinitely with no need to eat/drink

>>383593976
Give it time. Soon you'll be drowning in gold and begging for mere copper.

Scanner is most important, then vehicle bay and habitat builder.

>>383596513
While I agree with you about removing hunger/thirst removing some of the planning of long trips I'd say aquariums are never useless. There must always be cozy in your base.

>>383588494
They're still rebalancing it. What they need to do is add a shock thing like the Seamoth has, add torpedoes, and make it so that stalkers and bonesharks and the like just completely fucking ignore it, or at least make it so that they can't actually hurt it directly.

>>383596456
Well what I'm saying is that why even release updates for it? Spend the manpower and time on optimizing the piece of shit. Not releasing broken updates.

>>383595937
>You don't get fucking political when working in a business.
Not him but, what alternative universe do you live in? The whole world is political, and your favorite games too.
The only reason you dont know about it, is because you have no idea what the devs were thinking.
He's perfectly right.
Don't get so riled up because you're a gun babby

>>383596652
>optimize game
>break game with next content update

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>>383596484
There's three biomes the devs are working on/want to work on for post-1.0 (Twisty Bridges, Lilypad Islands, Arctic), so it'll be expanding a bit. I'm hoping they also add a Great Barrier Reef that's aded to and goes along the east side of the Crash Zone from the bottom to the Bulb Zone and a Marianas Trench on the western border of the Dunes.

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>Can play through horror games with no more than a jump
>Trying to play Subnautica grips my heart of hearts like a vice and never lets go until I'm safe again
I can't handle the deep bros. I just can't

>>383596513
Both can be for biofuel, and I like to grow creepvines so I don't have to go all the way to the surface for plastic, also free light since floodlights are broken.

You ALWAYS need a vehicle for that precious air, also they're just faster.

Like I said, it's just personal taste really, I just find the hunger mechanic to be more of a minor annoyance.

>>383596812
>Not him but, what alternative universe do you live in?
>What? Why wouldn't you want to piss off half your potential customer base for literally no reason?
Are you retarded? That's like rule number one, unless you're a fucking retard like the Chick-Fil-A guys you don't get political or religious with your business. Ever.

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>>383596975
It's fine. Just go swimming.

>>383587205
Is there a power heirarchy? Like it uses renewable energy like thermal first, then solar, bio and then nuclear? Or does it just drain everything equally because that'd be retarded

>>383596975
Same here, I uninstalled it because I can't deal with deep water

>>383596975
>tfw traversed the deepest depths but still can't go outside when it's night.

>>383596024
Yeah.
People say it wasn't added because they were afraid it would invalidate the seamoth and cyclops, but I think that's just the devs being lazy.
It's be really easy to make them all work.
>seamoth: tiny sub, most fragile, but cheap, fast and easily replaced.
>draconis: small and skinny, no windows or anything to make it extremely resistant to attacks and pressure. Great for deep seadiving, getting into caves and getting around in dangerous places, but limited room inside (as in enough space for a far, some storage and that's about it)
>cyclops: mobile base, able to carry PRAWN and seamoth, but too big to be able to use in tight places
>manta: bigger mobile base, can transport draconis and/or seamoth/prawn. More resistant than the cyclops, but bigger and slower as well
>the really big one: expensive as fuck to make, but you'll never need anything else. Can carry a draconis and cyclops, outfitted with all sorts of neat shit like scanners, fuck tons of torpedoes and so on. Can take on a sea dragon and come out on top, but not easy for one man to operate. Relatively impractical unless you want to go into the void, abyss or other big deep scary places they hopefully add. Looks great, esspecially if you want to do a one man version of Atlantis, which of course you so

I don't care how much time they would take to add, it'd be worth it

>>383596645
There's only five things that attack and damage the Cyclops:

Ampeel
Crabsquid
Reaper Leviathan
Ghost Leviathan
Sea Dragon Leviathan

And if you have your lights off and go silent running they'll completely ignore you. Stop being such whiny little bitches, people.

>>383595257
>unironically wanting invisible walls
>>>/out/

>>383596812
Except this is a game about exploring the ocean, where does politics play in anywhere? There's no reason to bring it up at all.

>>383597243
What's genuinely wrong with invisible walls? Games have to end somewhere, I hate when people get mad that not every game is Minecraft which technically still has a limit.

>>383597194
>ampeels
>attack
You practically have to charge into them in order to trigger an attack. They're so damned relaxed they don't give a shit about anything. You forgot River Prowlers though.

>>383595257
>wanting invisible walls
Get out you pleb.
Making you able to go outside of the map but also making you really not want to is much better game design

>>383579668
Every single thread with you people. Just shut up.

>>383597358
Looks like they changed that, because it's not listed in the wiki and I don't remember them attacking me last time I was there.

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>make a load of webms
>no subnautica threads for days
reeee

>>383597243
I mean, not USUALLY, but something needs to be done about the void. And I don't like the "Fill it with death fish" idea.

>>383582329
I think it's the same goy in every thread. By way of comparison, I love the game, and I own a small arsenal. if the devs are ok living at the mercy of their fellow man and their government, that is on them.

>>383597438
They're not quite as relaxed as Ampeels but they don't go real aggressive in my experience. They attack, but back off quickly and don't chase at all. You have to be pretty close too so the only time I ever get one attacking is when through close to the ceiling near the massive skull because there's one swimming up there most times.

>>383597597
If I want to shoot everything that moves I'll play a Resident Evil game. Subnautica is not a game for shooting everything that moves.

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>No weather systems yet
>No massive hurricanes that flood the islandds and make living above water impractical
>No fuckhuge rogue waves that could carry you out into the void if you're not careful
>No lightning storms that can blot out the sky and electrocute pretty much any living thing near the surface
>No sea spouts that carry things hundreds of feet into the air before dropping them hard onto the water's surface
>Not even any tides
I realize this may be a lot to ask for, but holy shit an ocean planet is far more than likely to have some massive fuck you weather systems

>>383597597
>>383597725
These guys know whats up, I like guns and everything but this game just isn't about that.

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Is anyone else upset about how the cyclops breaks now? It used to fill with water then sink, now it just explodes and kills you if you're inside it (and if you get to the wreck of it and go back in it kills you instantly) it feels like a massive downgrade, the fire's cool though

>>383597871
The removal of flooding is temporary. I can't remember the reason why, but it's supposed to come back at some point.

>>383596350
The longer you play, the more the cache directories fill up. This happens on PC aswell, but on PC, you can remove them manually. Until they do something about it, the only thing you can do is start a new file when you've played for too long

>tfw bought it for both xbone and PC, just to be able to play it.

>>383597871
>(and if you get to the wreck of it and go back in it kills you instantly)

That's got to be a glitch, because you're supposed to be able to salvage everything you'd built inside it and stored in it.

>flooding

They're bringing that back.

>>383597725
Precisely.

>>383597809
Weather has been on the fence for a while, on one hand it would be super cool, but on the other you spend 90% of the game underwater so you really wouldn't experience it much.
I want them to bring back currents, which could then be used to make most of those.

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>>383597518
I like your tub.

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>>383598001
it only happened once but I swam back to it thinking I'd be able to repair it and pilot it again, but I swam into it through the vehicle dock and it did the engine explosion message again then killed me

>>383579668
Goy? Not cuck, libtard, pussy, SJW, we're going with goy? I'm not following your insult logic, fampai.

>>383597871
>>383597952
When they added the fires, it got really fuckey when combined with flooding, I'm pumped for when we get both.

>>383598179
That HAS to be a glitch.

>>383598028
>no eggs to put in alien containment
I mean, I hate the little shits until I get Ion Cells and they become harmless but my Lava Zone tank is empty as shit. Only Lava Lizard/Red Eyeye/Magmarang and no flora.

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>>383598127
buzz

>>383597871
Considering how realistic that is, I'm genuinely torn. Fun fact, at the operational depths of modern subs, if one suffers a hull breach, the atmosphere can combust under the pressure.

>>383598028
These assholes are worse than any of the leviathans.

>>383598179
Yeah that's a glitch. You can't rebuild it but you're supposed to be able to go back and putter around the wreck all you want.

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>>383598097
Storms generate sea currents when they're over the water, so it's pretty simple to think that they would also end up tossing people around above water as well as below water. I just think it'd be neat for there to be something that actually forces people to go deeper underwater, rogue waves being one of them. Something like this shit would most definitely fuck over anything even a thousand meters deep, so you'd end up having to either hide in caves or make your base even deeper.

>>383591105
It would be a worse game if it had guns

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>>383597178
Well if you compare the size of the sensors on top of the Draconis, it looks like it's supposed to be as big or even bigger than the Cyclops.

I picture it being made to operate in a future abyssal plain zone, where the pressure outside the vehicle is lethal to the player.
It could be similar in length to the Cyclops, but have a single deck and no PRAWN/Seamoth bay. Instead it could deploy ROVs similar to the scanner room drones.
The ROVs could have a robot arm and be able to use tools to gather/build/repair/etc. You could use the ROVs to build a base then dock the Draconis to the base without ever entering the water.

Not being able to swim freely at all would really reinforce the claustrophobia of being in a sub, and the absolute inhospitality of the environment you're in.

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The juvenile Ghost Leviathans in the Lost River are only a little bit larger than the Reaper. Note that the Reapers are all full-grown adults.

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>>383598028
>park nearly fully charged cyclops and go explore in the prawn for ages
>come back ages later and it has no power
>this little fucker had been sat there for like 5 hours
>had to use the prawns power cells to get it home
I was legit a little mad

>>383598936
They should probably make it so each leech drains X units of power, then detaches and swims away.

>>383598936
>have become completely paranoid about those little shits
>will go out with a dragon right above me just to check if there's any of them hanging on

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This is how big the Ghost Leviathans in the Void will be. The sub-adults that will be in the grand Reef and Sea Treader's Path might be this size too, but hopefully they'll be smaller but a bit bigger than the juveniles.

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>>383576468
I will play the game for the first time now. I have seen nothing of it yet except that it's a survival game and that you crash into an ocean I want to go into this blind.

Having said that. I want to know what kind of mode I should play. I tend to play games only through once but I want to do as much of a 100% run as possible and I don't know what is the most balanced/best way to play the game in its current shape.

If I pick the "wrong" mode I might just finish it and then never pick up the game ever again to try out other stuff.

>>383599215
Play survival mode, it's the "normal" mode. The game explains pretty clearly what each mode does.

The game is definitely the best if you go in completely blind and avoid the wiki/etc. as much as possible.

>>383599215
>I tend to play games only through once but I want to do as much of a 100% run as possible
I'd argue you're better off waiting until 1.0 then. There's still some content left to be added but it's intended to be released in a couple months.
That said, survival is the best one and going blind for your first experience is the best way.

>>383599215
Also, the game isn't quite finished yet, so be aware that you will eventually hit a wall where you can't progress the story and further, and future updates may or may not be compatible with your save.

>>383599359
>>383599487
>>383599604
Ah I see. I thought that the game would be feature complete because I see a lot of threads pop up on /v/.

Will wait for it to fully release then.

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RAMMING SPEED

>>383599694
>I see a lot of threads pop up on /v/
Summer sale and recent updates make for temporarily recurring threads, they come and go in waves like most. It's almost complete, just a few bits of content and then mostly optimization and bug fixes to be done.

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>>383600016
And when exactly, has that ever worked out for you Mr. Worf?

>>383599694
It's very close to feature complete, but not quite. Late this month is the internal feature complete goal, but I believe they're planning to hold back adding the story ending until the release in Sep/Oct. They're going to spend 2 or 3 months working on polish and optimization between August and October.

Right now you can get about 80-90% through the story, but the last couple of pieces aren't there yet.

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>>383600190
it worked once I swear

>>383600302

>>383597093
Right now it goes by which power source you have built first. So if you built thermal first, then bio and then Nuclear, it will drain the thermal reactor's energy output first. Then when thermal's output can't keep up with the drain, bio pitches in and when bio is empty or at its limits, nuclear starts. There is currently no way to change this order other than to scrap and rebuild your reactors in the desired order and you can't tell the base to only use one power source till it is completely empty before drawing from the next one.

>>383576940
What kind of computer are you running it on? I've only ever had framerate issues when I plant a bunch of seeds on the growbeds I built in my submarine, and I think that's just because it's something the engine wasn't quite ready for.

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>>383600302
>>383600417
Disregard my boobup.

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>WARNING: Not guaranteed to function on complex entities. Due to high power consumption and non-lethality, conventional weapons are recommended for personal defense.
Cheeky cunts.

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>>383600663
do not worry friendo, look at this sleepy crab

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>>383601008
>murdering the dooks
Poor dook dooks.

>>383594835
>roaming around in the abyss
>see like fifty warper warp bubbbles in the distance slowly approaching

That or give us some fuck-off spooky Warper Leviathan, or just giant tentacles from the deep.

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>>383601216
Or, y'know, this.

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best fish

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>>383576468
Does anybody else here like to use their PRAWN as a combat suit? I have ever since I found out the grapple hook attaches to hostile creatures.

>Be on mining expedition
>Cyclops with PRAWN docked looking for mineral veins
>Ping active sonar to look for cave systems
>Every boneshark in a 50m radius comes charging at the ship and starts attacking it.
>Taking serious hull damage
>Deploy PRAWN
>Stick a shark with a the grappling arm, boost into it then drill it with the mining arm.
>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtQkoecIzng

Pic related is now mfw the Creature Attack alert goes off.

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>swimming around a small cave
>suddenly camera jerks
>IT IS YOUR PRIMARY OBJECTIVE
>can't look away
>can't break away
>panic
>it fucks off for some reason as I get the fuck out
this fucking game

>>383601537
Oh it's a fish that mind controls you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ8uNuRk-Bo

>>383579668
A. That wasn't the dev.

B. What he said is half true. There are a RIDICULOUS number of shootings in the US, you just tend not to hear about them much unless black people or children are killed, or the number of casualties number in the dozens

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>>383601737
>>383601537
>tfw if you turn on subtitles the ai tells you the opposite of what it's telling you

>>383601462
>Go into abyss
>strange almost kelp-like tendrils that sway in the water coming from unknown depth
>suck power from and slow down your ship if you have your lights on
>forces you to keep your lights off as you charge headfirst into the void

I dig it.

>>383582329
It was pretty fucking stupid though for a while though. Until you manage to unlock and build a Seamoth, a Moonpool, an upgrade console, and the torpedo upgrades, your only defenses against hostile creatures are to run or try to stab it with your knife. There's an in-game reason why, and the creatures have been balanced a lot since the game first came out, but it was still bullshit for a while.

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>>383601830
what? that's fucking rad

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>>383602013
>your only defenses against hostile creatures are to run or try to stab it with your knife
the knife is all you need though, also propulsion cannon with acid mushrooms/crashfish is really strong, stasis rifle, ramming with vehicles, and sticking floaters on stuff are also all really effective ways of fighting, literally git gud

>>383602319
>also propulsion cannon with acid mushrooms
how does this work though?

>all battery powered equipment can use ion batteries
>except the construction tool
But why.

>>383602749
just pick up a mushroom and fire it at something, it explodes on impact. I've never actually bothered with it myself though because the knife is stupidly strong so there's probably some trick to making it work

>>383602319
>the knife is all you need though

Bullshit. It's fine against stalkers, but it's difficult (beyond the git gud level) to outswim a sand or bone shark, let alone several of them and knife them without taking damage yourself. The amount of damage those creatures deal now is less than it used to be, though so I'll grant that.

> also propulsion cannon with acid mushrooms/crashfish is really strong,
>sticking floaters on stuff

I've actually never considered these

>stasis rifle,

I forgot to mention the stasis rifle in my last post. It's pretty handy, but when you consider the reason the dev said he wouldn't put so much as a spear gun (a tool that wouldn't be out of place in an ocean diving game) in, but instead put something that freezes creatures in time so you can swim up and stab them, it's kinda ridiculous.

>ramming with vehicles

Used to be a viable strategy, but requires you to unlock the vehicle, and nowadays does more damage to the vehicle than to the creature.
>>383602749
The acid mushroom bursts on impact and does damage. Not enough to actually hurt anything, but enough to scare them away I'd imagine.

Is there a harpoon gun in this game yet?

>>383592340
If Xing don't work, that means that you haven't Xing enough.

>>383603289
>being actually bad
stalkers, sand sharks and bone sharks all attack the same, they charge you if they're out of biting range and they bite if they're in range, while charging they can't turn very well and they take some time to recover afterwards, so bait them into doing that then strafe it and stab the fuck out of them, doing this once is always enough to damage it enough to make it run away. If it gets in biting range then either tank a few hits while stabbing it until it runs away or use the seaglide to swim the fuck away and bait a charge attack

If you're fighting multiple then keep track of them all (sound is super helpful for this since they telegraph the charge attack with a roar and you can hear where it's coming from), keep them from getting too close to you and then just bait charge attacks

If you feel like baiting charge attacks repeatedly is cheesy then you can manfight stuff by swimming around the critter vertically since they're pretty slow at turning up and down

>>383591848
Can confirm that putting it on an ssd helps. There is still a good amount of stuttering, but it's not as bad. Also, be advised that you might lose your saved game progress when you transfer it over.

>>383601516
nigga thats kawaii

>>383601534
> libcucks remove firearms becuase (((reasons)))
> real men repurpose mining equipment and exploding sea life in order to devistate victims in the most exploitative and brutal ways possible

I am pretty sure this will apply IRL as well someday when Commiefornia decends into a criss between Ceasars Legion armed with the weapons from Dead Space

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>>383593697
I'm fairly sure it was. The entire reason the Aurora even went near the planet is because the WeylandYutanis of Alterra gave the captain a secret mission to go check the last known coordinates and general area where the Degasi went down en route to their real destination.

>every ship that goes near this area of space just vanishes
>SEND MORE SHIPS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING

>>383604084
According to the wiki, Degasi was a Mongolian ship, and the captain was CEO of the Torgal Corporation.

>>383601516
i make sure to carry one of these friendos with me into the depths. makes the game much more bearable.

>>383589290
PROMOTIONS!

>>383592396
Fuck these things

>>383599067
That sounds reasonable.

>>383604032
>being this assblasted that you can't go Resident Evil in a game where you're not supposed to do that

Do you shit your britches over Mario not having guns, too?

>>383604642
They look creepy, but they die the same as anything else when you penetrate their face with a mining drill.

The only thing I haven't managed to kill yet is a Warper.

>>383593212
It doesn't matter if you kill the Leviathans or not. The Warpers are indestructible. I should know, I once saw a Reaper fighting a Warper and it took two direct hits from it.

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>>383600016
>When ramming an enemy, the captain is required to shout something useless at the top of his lungs.

RAMMING SPEED!

>This is silly because technically you can ram at any speed. It would make more sense to announce an actual speed, using units of measure, appropriate to the amount of damage you wish to inflict. Shouting "Ramming speed!" only serves to alert everyone on deck to the impending event, allowing them to assume crash positions or otherwise brace for impact. This of course renders the next mandatory shouted command redundant at best.

BRACE FOR IMPACT!

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>>383604517
I never knew they were so friendly, now I'm gonna have to make a tank full of just these

>>383601516
>fish
That's a reptile my man

>go in my prawn to mine some shit in north-western part by the abyss
>all of a sudden fucking reaper grabs me and starts dragging towards the abyss
>drill its fucking face off as I watch prawn's health meter going down
>finally get free of its grasp
>edge of map is too far for jetpack
>there are two more leviathans swimming in front of me
>use my grappling hook on them to spiderman my way back to the dunes
>get the fuck out this zone and never return

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>>383604642
pls no bully dook

>>383604928
That's because warpers aren't alive.

>>383595156
I would be fine with an abyss DLC as long as it is big

>>383605153
same thing innit

>>383604928
>The Warpers are indestructible
While this is likely true they don't even bleed, unlike even the Leviathans anything that chases Warpers is okay in my book. So I will advocate on their behalf against the Warper menace.

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>finally get some base room blueprints
>looking for some place comfy to build
>game suddenly locks up when I'm near a reefback
>ded
>save delete because hardcore
Welp. Time to start over. Where should I build my base /v/?

>>383605214
Tell them to stop EMPING my shit then

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>>383590881
>wander in without looking up anything at all
>take damage from some 'thing' in the kelp forest
>surface like a polaris missile

>>383576468
how much work has gone into this game since last year? I played it when the only quest related stuff was going to the crash site one time and repairing the engine room or whatever.

After that, all there was left to do was create an underwater base, but the lower depths had no reason to explore them. Has that changed? Is there more to do beyond autistic base building?

>>383605196
>dunes
>first time you enter, AI tells you "This zone is filled with fucking giant bullshit monsters and the bones of the fallen, I hope you have a fucking good reason for being here."
>There is never a good reason for being there.

>>383605428
turn lights off pls, dook's eyes are very sensitive

>>383605410
Grand Reef is dope, you can build near the heat vents and never worry about power (unless you build a water filter)

>>383605410
don't play hardcore mode you idiot the game is buggy as heck, also mushroom forest

>>383576468
never played it. Downloading it right now.

Is it good and fun? Is it time consuming? Is the lore good?

>>383605561
Cant turn off the lights in a PRAWN

>>383605539
I haven't been there in recent updates because fuck that shit but I remember there being a pretty massive wreck somewhere in the dunes

>>383605617
Yes yes and yes, but I hope you have a good PC because its kinda buggy and hard to run right now

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>>383605441
bitches don't know bout my sea dragon

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>>383605656
Please do not enter dook home with shiny machine. Dook kind soul.

>>383605741
is an overclocked 970 good enough?

>>383605819
Should be
Just dont type explode in the console

>>383605196
>>383595156
I want a super sub that can dock the PRAWN and the Seamoth. Also some kind of perimeter defense system or something more than decoys to ward off leviathans.

>>383605576
> never worry about power (unless you build a water filter

I was thinking of building a water filter, but it's much easier to just farm a bunch of Marble Melons. They give like +22 Food and +15 Water per melon and breaking one gives you four seeds. 1 growbed is all you need plus more for emergencies. Only problem is they decay and aren't very portable.

>>383605536
http://subnautica.wikia.com/wiki/Update_History#PC_Updates

>>383605819
My shitty 1050 TI runs it just fine. It used to run fine on an old radeon card I had too.

>>383605617
it's probably one of my favourite games, also go in as blind as you can and be prepared for it to run like shit at times

>>383605819
That probably won't make much of a difference, the game's really optimised right now, optimisation patch is meant to be next month though if if puts you off too much

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>>383605602
It just feels so much more scary with hardcore mode on. It's too bad starting over in this game is such a fuckin' slow drag.

>>383605817
Kind soul, sometimes I turn my lights off and you still try to eat me
>Enter the grandreef seabase and have these monsters snarl at me waiting to eat me

Was the Grand Reef inspired by Titan AE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9U0df6KJiA

>>383605441
>>383590881
>need to go in some fuck no area that's inhabited by some kind of hammerhead shark

They're more like giant barracuda, and they're huge bitches. Just knife them and they'll run.

>>383605536
Lots is the short answer.

>cyclops have no pressure upgrades available
>take my prawn to the lost river
>descend into lava caves
>all this takes at least ten minutes because of prawn clunky movements
>already done this couple times to mine for resources so aren't really scared
>this time want to explore further
>some warper aggroes
>annoying but nothing special
>start shanking it as always to shoo away
>there are two more warpers
>they cluster together and bite me down in two seconds
>my prawn with max level pressure upgrade, thermal reactor drill and grappling arms, and sack full of ore is now all the way down in lava caves
>only way to retrieve it is by taking seamoth and continually swapping both on the way back
I guess I'm done with this playthrough, not like I had anything more to see either way.

>>383605410
/v/ is always going to promote some bullshit about building in a 'comfy' spot or in the center of the koosh or grand reef, but realistically the best strategy is to make a single giant base for your needs and comfort, then very small outposts in other zones as they are needed.

Because of that, building as close to the center of the map as possible is the best strategy due to safeness and ease of access to every zone/teleporter. Handily enough, dead-center of the map or so is where Safe Shallows borders two Kelp Forests and the Grassy Plateaus zone. It is also within spitting distance of Grand Reef and right on top of Jelly Shroom caves, meaning your core base itself has swimming access to literally 5 zones if needed. Building right on the edge of safe shallows also means the 'top' of your base frequently will only be 20-30m below sealevel to abuse the shit out of solar, while the 'bottom' areas can be as deep as 120-130m, meaning you can build an entire dock area for your Cyclops and Moonpools without worrying about them scratching the sea floor. Not to mention, being attached to 5 zones right from the start of the game makes gathering a fucking breeze initially, especially since it means you have access to diamonds, gold and tons of silver, which can be huge roadblocks to early crafting.

>>383606192
Just cheat and get it back

>>383595776
Atlantis was a stupid movie but goddamn this and the leviathan were amazing.

>>383591105
like omg every. single. thread. just...i can't even

>>383605680
There is, but there is literally nothing but PDAs/Lore, some posters, and other useless shit inside.

The only thing of value in it is the potential for Modification Station fragments, but those can also be found in one of the Blood Kelp wrecks and in the Mountain wreck. The only reason to ever go to dunes is if RNG fucks you right up the ass and only gives you a single Mod fragment from both other wrecks, forcing you to go to Dunes for the last one.

>>383606271
Honestly if you get a spawn next to a geyser in the shallows you NEVER need to move

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>VotD update hits
>bulkheads suddenly stop having animations
>figure it's because I didn't start a new save
>downsize an area of the base a little for reasons
>bulkheads suddenly have animations again
I bet the nextdoor Warpers did this.

>>383592043
What game do I play when I want to fight fish?

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>>383606192
I know it's scummy but I always save before leaving my base because fuck rebuilding stuff, also I tend to get carried away with exploring in the prawn (pic related)

>>383606689
>Not knifing them in Subnautica

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>>383606271
>not building a fucking tower in the middle of the map so you can stand 100m above sea level, completely safe to every possible danger, complete with vertical shaft elevator to take you down to the bottom for resource gathering

it's like your not even trying

>>383606734
Are you me?

>>383606621
I wish I had a pic, but yeah my prefered area is right around that Geyser, practically on top of the Escape Pod nearby with the radiation suit.

That is just so perfect I've never built anywhere else since buying back when they first released. Huge valley in the shallows to build in, cliff-face drop off, perfect situation on the map for exploration... maximum utility with all the leeway in the world to make it comfy.

>>383606906
yes

>>383606734
>carried away
>is in green zone of lost river
Woah, steady on, Magellan.

>>383606870
what's it like from the inside?