Metroidvania games

>>383394098
hollow knight?

im a bit indecisive about dead cells mainly because of the """"early access game""""

>>383394240
I thought about Hollow knight for a while now, something about the art just doesn't connect with me, all that black and white cartoonish vibe just doesn't sit right, but I might give it a shot.

About dead cells being in EA, its top notch, it already feels like a solid game, the only thing left to add is content which you already have a good amount of.

Id recommend buying it right away.

sotn and the gba/ds castlevanias (save for harmony of dissonance, terrible game)

Dead Cells is barely a metroidvania though.
Seems like you're looking for some action-platformer games, no matter if they're really metroidvanias.

Hollow Knight is an extremely solid metroidvania with more focus on action than Ori.

There's Guacamelee, which is not great on the metroidvania side, but has a solid combat system.

I assume you've already played every IGAvania ?

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You can't really go wrong with Hollow Knight.

>>383394680
I'm new to the genre, I just went with Metroidvania because thats what the description said, though action platformer suits it way better.

If I had to compare Dead Cells to something else for me it'd be Megaman X, I just love the rush and shoot, tight controls and the fun combat aspect.

>>383394705
Guess ill give HK a shot, 2 bad I missed the steam sale.

>>383394436
I'd skip hollow, I liked the art style, and the combat was fun, but it has some serious framerate problems.
I'm running a 1060 and some areas it's really noticeable and will mess with your jumps / combat ability.

dead cells is on the wish list, but I'll buy when it's finished.
What sort of stuff are they adding? New areas?
I'd hate it if they expanded / added secrets to areas I'd already cleared.

>>383394705
Although I should say, Hollow Knight isn't solely focused on action and combat. There's a bunch of platforming sections that are not exactly easy.

>>383394959
If you like Dead Cells and Megaman, I recommand you to check 20XX.
It's basically a rogue-lite Megaman X.

It's still in early access, but there's a good amount of content, and the gameplay is solid.

>>383394996
I have also a 1060, but the framerate issues have been patched since. Did you turn off vsync ?

>>383394996
I have a 980 so I hope it will hold, and I don't mind some drops as long as its not super bad.

I'd recommend you get it right now, they have a good amount of content and I dropped about 90hours so far into the game and finished the final boss a couple of times.

They are adding more areas and new routes, supposedly you'll get something else after the current final boss as the game goes on.

But right now its an amazing game as it is.

Also the maps change all the time so exploring the same area is different every time, and you will rush past the same routes many times seeing as how thats the whole point of the game.

>>383395137
checking it out, saw it on steam sale as well.

>>383394996
Sounds like you played a pirated/old version then. I've bought the game when it was on 1.06 or something and never had a problem with framerate on my 1070.

>>383395247
Unsure, I'll try that next time I boot up. This was played maybe a month ago, should be the current version.

It's a laptop with 1060 in it, but I was playing through hdmi to my tv. Would that affect it?

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Dead Cells is not a metroidvania, seriously stop with this meme.

It's not a bad game though, but I'd wait until full release because right now it's lacking in content and doesn't have a lot of variability to keep it interesting once you've beaten it.

>>383395470
>the maps change all the time
interesting, how do you mean?

>>383395485
nah I bought it and downloaded it from steam...

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>>383394959
It doesn't sound like you're looking for a Metroidvania unless it's the exploration/backtracking aspect you're interested in. Some games get mis-labeled as the genre. Especially Cave Story.
It's usually easy to just look at the game's map to tell if it's a Metroidvania, though that's not always a sure indicator unless you really dissect it. Some are linear as hell but still kinda look like this.

>>383394098
Environmental Station Alpha - Shitloads of secrets. You do have a gun, but it's an energy blaster with limited range. Nails its atmosphere.

Ghost 1.0 - Very linear when you boil it down, but the concept and world are neat. Massive amount of weapons and powerups. Unusual controls, but you can totally get away with mapping things to a controller for a standard setup(though the first boss can be a major bitch without using mouse aiming).

is this more like castlevania or metroid?
I hate this metroidvania loose term.

>>383395736
Dead Cells is a roguelite like Spelunky. When you die you restart and the map is different.

>>383395736
The game is made out of areas that are connected by portals, most areas lead to a couple of different ones so you get to choose which route you want

You start at point A and you can choose to either go to area B/C/D from there on to area E/F/G depending on what you chose first followed by a boss and into more areas and more bosses.

You have one life, and once you die you go back to area A but the whole area is different, each area has its specific monsters but the layout and items change each time you die / finish the game.

Where in the fuck do you drop the phaser recipe?

>>383395854
Neither. It's a roguelite with a dodge roll and basic hack and slash combat.

>>383395759
Might be so, I am not looking for some deep story or much exploration, something I can pick up and put 30~40 minutes of action with tight controls, drop it and come back without feeling like I missed something.

I guess thats why I liked Dead Cells / Megamax X so much, each of them has a rather short play time and its set up in instances.

>>383396130
Well Cave Story and Shovel Knight are good linear platformers

>>383395937
Which is basically just the regular roguelite way of doing progression

Only thing that transfers is the weapons you unlock to show up in subsequent runs and gold if you unlocked the perk that lets you keep a percentage of it on death

>>383395923
>>383395937
That's cool, just purchased

>>383395854
neither, rougue lite is the correct term for it

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Rabi-Ribi and Hollow Knight are two simply amazing Metroidvanias. They're up there with Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night. Get both of them.

Dead Cells is a game with a lot of promise but right now is bogged down by a few issues. It touts itself as a Rogue-like Metroidvania but each run you do is played roughly the same just with differences in your attack damage, attack speed, range, status effects and crowd control ability. It's not like other Rogue-likes where certain upgrades and powerups will transform how you play: most runs I was still employing the tactics. Also with how punishing some enemies can be it can be too risky trying new strategies. Finally the current end boss is more of a struggle against the gameplay mechanics since your character sucks in the air and several weapons were bugged against him.

But I think Dead Cells has excellent potential if some things get sorted out. But get Rogue Legacy for the time being if you want something along those lines.

>>383396586
>rougue

Dead cells is amazing. Best early access I've ever played. A little light on content atm, but they're adding a lot at a pretty quick pace.

>>383395580

Bump Rabi-Ribi up into God Tier and that list is about perfect.

>>383396063
>>383396586
thank you

I just came across a game called ICY on steam, anyone has experience with it?

>>383394436
But Hollow Knight is cute.
The cute bugs even have cute voice acting/humming/gibberish..whatever you want to call em

>>383394240
Dead Cells has great feeling combat, the devs even said in an interview that they focused on the action base first.

What they have so far is already worth it

>>383396864
oops, ICEY.

>>383396864

Oh, the game where the final challenge won't unlock for me despite me having replayed every possible aspect of the game multiple times over so I can't get the last two achievements?

...It's decent enough. One of those fourth wall breaking games but clever enough.

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>/v/ is shilling for this

Ummmmmmmmmm

Hollow Knight for exploration
Salt and Sanctuary for combats

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Rabi-Ribi of course

>>383397065
Are you surprised? There is never a shortage of teenagers with snowflake complexes here.

>>383396964

They focused on the combat? A game where your character's aerial attacks are the EXACT same as on the ground?

The only things about Dead Cells' combat that stand out is the whole system that checks for whether you or the enemy are in a vulnerable state and the slowdown effect that happens from large hits.

>>383394098
>Any good must play Metroidvania games?
Unepic.
>inb4 the game is shit
Don't listen to /v/ the game is awesome.

>>383397065
What's wrong with it? And "lol anime" isn't a complaint

>>383394098
Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight

>>383397281
>Anime
>Anime
>Anime
>Anime
>Anime

5 good reasons why it's shit.

>>383397065
It's better than it looks, but not as good as this thread says it is .

>>383394098
>some fun smash and rush Metroidvania with tight controls and combat.

Valdis Story is the game you're looking for

>>383397323
That's what I thought

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>>383397406
LITERALLY a pedophile game.

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>>383397065
>>383397163

>"People are recommending a solid Metroidvania that has some cute anime girls?
VIRGINS AND SHILLS! NOTHING MORE!"

I just refunded Hollow Knight. I don't get the hype. Bosses are boring and there is no difficulty because of your self heal. Bosses even have ridiculous recovery on attacks so you can heal.

So I guess before this derails into the shitfest /v/ usually ends up with I'll thank you guys, I'll try ICEY, Hollow Knight and Rogue Legacy I guess I'll also see about the OG Castlevania on a GBA emulator.

Dead Cells is a metroidvania? I thought it was a procedurally generated roguelike.

>>383397521
Sure is summer in here

You have:

Them Knytt games, if you like something relaxing
The obvious shit like Super Metroid, SOTN and the other castlevanias, etc
Dust, a furfaggot tail
Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight
Hollow Knight is pretty cool if a bit overrated

Honestly I could not ever like the mix between roguelite and metroidvania. Rogue Legacy was just such worthless turd.

>>383397540
>Refunding a game because the beginning isn't challenging enough

>>383397637
Well anything where you can get an ability that lets you get to something new is classified as a Metroidvania now

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>/v/ has constant autismfits over mixels in indie games
>Japan does it
>it's suddenly okay

You're pathetic, /v/.

>>383397540
How far did you get? There's a point at which even having certain charms won't be enough for your antics.

>>383397548
>Rogue Legacy
lol

>>383397837

Chinese. But glad to see you know nothing about the game.

>>383397837
Mixels? I assume indie pixels and I say it's because a majority of /v/ is retarded and not everyone hates it. I only hate it when the gameplay itself is also shitty/low quality.

>>383397837
You're really desperate for some (you)'s today aren't you?

>>383397759
>>383397876
I gave it 2 hours and 3 bosses. I'll pirate it and continue on my save, but right now it's not worth my money.

>>383397753
>>383397887
Like I said before, Im just looking for some fun tight controllers game I can play on my PC with a PS3 controller.

I'll try a couple of the things suggested, Im watching gameplay right now and I dunno if I should buy/refund what I dont like or just pirate it for the first 10minutes and see.

>>383397981
That explains why there's so much shilling for it. Literal Chinese shills.

>>383398072
Damn I thought you actually got far enough for that. How pathetic.

>>383394098
I'm more of a marisonirogulikemetroidvaniabeatemupshump kind of person myself but I do enjoy silenresevilpsychoslasherbmoviejason occasionally.

>>383396130

>I'm not looking for.... much exploration

Then you're not looking for a metroidvania, dawg. Metroidvanias are 90% exploration.

If you don't like Rabi-Ribi because of anime maybe you should go back.

>>383398278
yeah this should have been kinda obvious from the OP post that OP himself doesn't know what the fuck he is talking about

>metroidvania without exploration

fucking kids nowadays i swear to gods

>>383398278
This guy gets it

>>383398419
>IF YOU AREN'T A PEDOPHILE YOU SHOULD LEAVE

;:^)

>>383395580
bump up ori a tier and its good

also
>including bloodstained but not salt and sanctuary.

>>383398419
Don't project your pedophilia onto us, weeb. Try taking your own advice and head back to your containment board.

>>>/r9k/

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>>383394705
fucking kek

this game is the good kind of hard,
i died like 10 times to hornet and still had a fucking blast

>>383398915
>HK is hard
Holy shit I thought people like you were a fucking meme.

Hollow Knight had some disappointingly simplistic boss design. The world was cool but often pretty annoying to backtrack in. It's still one of the better games of this kind I've played behind actual Metroids and Castlevanias.

>>383394240
There's nothing wrong with early access as long as the developer knows what the fuck they're doing. Prison Architect, Grim Dawn, Subnautica, etc. are all great.

>>383397753
Thanks guy, Momodora looks pretty spot on actually!

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>>383397837
>that map
>the fucking FoV
>the awful HUD
>didnt even do pixel art right

how the FUCK do you want me to play this travesty

>>383398778
Haven't played Salt and Sanctuary yet, I need to get around to it. I love Dark Souls, but I'm always turned off by the imitators.

>>383397753
>Exploring that one gigantic Knytt Stories custom map
Relaxing as fuck.

I'm a fucking weeb, but I honestly wish Rabi-Ribi had another artstyle, most people will miss on its great gameplay because of it.

>>383399101
>the fucking FoV
Hey look another person that doesn't actually know anything about the game, oh yeah be sure to call me a pedophile when you inevitably reply with some more shit

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I liked Rain World.

>>383394098
Brutal Legend

>>383394098
>Metroidvania
Stop
using
this
fucking
term

The Japanese name is literally "exploration game." That's all it is.

>>383399054
it certainly have flaws like you said especially the backtracking but imma give it a soft pass since it is their first game, still one of the best metroidvania games in recent years

>>383399142

>Salt and Sanctuary

the artstyle really put me off, remind me of flash game 10 years ago

>>383394996
970 with a 2500k...get 150 fps all the time :^)

>>383399651
>exploration game

So Gone Home?

>>383399651
>The Japanese name is literally "exploration game." That's all it is.

So it's a metroidvania, then.

>>383399142
Once you can get passed the humans that look like they were lifted from a gritty poptropica reboot it's a great game. It doesn't inovate a whole lot but it really does nail the dark souls atmosphere and gameplay, and IMO there are some things it does better than dark souls.

>>383399759
Yeah, only it doesn't sound pretentious and stupid as fuck.

>>383399651
"Exploration game" is terrible, it could mean too many things.

Metroidvania is a short term everybody uses and you instantly know what's the game about.

>>383399829
>pretentious

How?

>>383399494
Well considering that image and every other one posted of it looks pretty fucking zoomed in how can you expect anybody to think otherwise?

>>383399494
How about you show some good fucking footage instead of the garbage you've been spewing so far then?

>>383399837
>you instantly know what's the game about.
Apparently not, since OP thinks a 2d game with combat is a Metroidvania

>>383399837
>it could mean too many things.
That applies to every fucking genre you stupid cunt. Every game involves "action," most games involve "playing a role," many games involve "strategy." But genre names refer to specific features despite general-sounding terms. Literally not an argument.

Metroidvania is like calling every FPS a "wolfenlike." Stop it.

>>383400010
>>383400031
I hope you are baiting, otherwise you are fucking retarded.

>>383400243
>no argument
There we have it.

Actually it's more like calling FPS a "wolfendoom," just to really highlight the stupidity.

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I thought this was a pretty good one.

>>383397249
The end is shit.

>>383399968
>>383400007
How about you fucks learn to go research a game on your own instead of looking at a couple pictures a guy trying to b8 people? But from how much you guys are trying to shit on a game you know absolutely nothing about I don't think you're interested in actually learning anything about it

>>383400031
action, RPG, and strategy are the 3 most diluted genres that mean absolutely nothing. games are metroidvanias because they are similar to those games.

skyrim could be an exploration game, minecraft could be an exploration game, netiher of those are metroidvanias

>>383394996
turn the particle effect settings down

I have a fucking ancient amd Radeon HD 5850 that I bought 8 years ago and I got no frame issues whatsoever after I did that

>>383400441
Well no shit if those screenshots are what I'm going to expect from the game of course I'm not going to do anything but dismiss it.

>>383400441
I'm not trying to shit on in though for fucks sake. I only pointed out the images in the thread were zoomed in which would obviously make anybody think the whole game is like that.

>>383397249
Unepic is shitgarbage.

>>383400010
Blame Dead Cells' devs for calling their own game a metroidvania.

>>383400543
Halo could be a role-playing game because you play the role of Master Chief. But that's not how genres work you dumb faggot, in any medium. The words for movie and book genres mean many things as well, but they're specific in the context of genres.

But sure, let's start calling RTS "duneconquers" and RPGs "D&Dwizardrys"

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>no game will ever have the perfect artstyle mated to the perfect soundtrack to create a lasting impression across several decades of gaming like SotN

So is something like Lone Survivor a metroidvania? It's got combat, it's 2D, you explore and get items that let you get to new areas

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>>383400952
You can cry as much as you want, it's an established term now and people will continue to use it. So take your medicine and shut the fuck up for once in your miserable life.

>>383400364
The FPS genre was literally called doom-like before (or doom-clone depending on where you live)

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>>383394098
I just finished this game and it was pretty fun experience!
I hear that Web of Shadows and Edge of Time are also metroidvanias, so I'll try those out as well.
Definitely recommending Shattered Dimensions, tho. It is fairly short, but it has loads of cool unlockables and loads of stuff to explore. And the Super Hero difficulty is brutal as hell, for those who want a challenge.

If someone could mod the characters of Salt and Sanctuary so they didn't painfully remind me of 2004 era newgrounds flash animation I would enjoy the game a hell of a lot more.

>>383401164
>more non-arguments
There it is again.

>it's an established term
And yet you're criticizing other established terms here >>383400543, so that has nothing to do with the quality of the term. So what you're saying is you prefer shit like "wolfendoom" and "duneconquer" to actual genre names, demonstrating again how "metroidvania" fags are retarded.

>some autist shitposting over a dozen times about a term that is more than likely older than he is

>>383394098
>Metroidvania
Please stop using this fucking term. "Metroidvania" refers to the Castlevania games that copied the Metroid formula. It does not refer to the whole genre of games that are influenced by Metroid. Castlevania did not make a meaningful contribution to developing this type of game design, it just copied Metroid.

>>383401531
>some autist is so butthurt at losing an argument he resorts to passive aggressive shitflinging to save face

>>383400968
Hollow Knight has accomplished it pretty well, I don't know.

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>>383400952
All you faggots ever do is complain but you never suggest a better name for the genre.
>>383401448
That's my first post in this thread, you fucking moron.
How about you complain about "rogue"like games next? Or why do we call tetris a puzzle game when you don't have to assemble a puzzle?
The name of the genre is completely fucking irrelevant as long as you understand what the game is about.
Roleplaying games don't contain any roleplaying either, but I don't see you shit your pants over that either.
Genre names have always been a massive clusterfuck and you're not helping by acting like a hysteric women over it.

>>383400952
if i told you I was playing a strategy game, you would have no idea what exactly i was playing. I could be playing civ, xcom, total war,starcraft, europa 4, off world trading company, dota, or even fucking clash royale. These games are complete different but calling all of them a strategy game is still correct because the genre doesn't mean anything. If someone says they are playing a metroidvania you have a generally idea of the type of game they are playing.

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>Metroidvanias
Strider (2014)
Shadow Complex
Valdis Story: Abyssal City
Momodora
Steamworld Dig
Guacamelee
La-Mulana
Chronicles of Teddy

>Some games that are more Metroid-like
Axiom Verge
Environmental Station Alpha
Xeodrifter (worth 5€)

>>383401772
The first fucking post about it gave a better name. Again, other games involving "exploration" is not an argument >>383400031. You're just going in circles hoping no one reads the reply chain.

>my first post in the thread
Oh, so you're too illiterate to read a reply chain yourself, and start your argument with shitposting. Good to know.

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>>383396595
>They're up there with Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night.

Ahahaha just how pleb do you have to be to say something like that

>>383401805
How in the fuck did that sound like a valid argument in your head? If you said "I'm playing a metroidvania", you could be playing anything in >>383402089. Just because it's a smaller genre doesn't mean it warrants a fucking stupid name.

>>383402089
Environmental Station Alpha was pretty good and it's got a sequel planned. One of the best hookshots in games.

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>>383402104
Why the fuck would I read a reply chain if all I wanted to do is shit on an autist that does the exact same shit in every thread about this topic? I don't have to read your inane ramblings for the 100th time again.

Fact is, people call it metroidvania. Nobody gives a shit about your opinion on the matter, sorry sweetie. If people had called these games cum-sandwiches years ago, then that's what we'd be calling them now. Fucking deal with it.

>>383402474
>why would I present an actual argument? I'm content just being a retard like everyone else
Thanks for your contribution.

>>383401448
The difference is that "wolfendoom" and "duneconquer" are words you pulled out of your ass for games that pretty much invented/popularized whole genres, while "metroidvania" is for a sub-genre of action/platformers with specific style of progression and level design.
Better comparaison would be calling run'n'gun games something like "MegaContra" or some shit.

I don't know what to say really. The term Metroidvania just happens to exist, everybody uses it and there's no reason not to.

>>383402571
You can repeat your "not an argument" meme all you want, it won't change reality ;^) You'll still piss your pants in anger because people call these games metroidvania in 20 years. Fucking. Pathetic.

>>383402675
The answer is right in your post. They're not called "megacontra," they're called run n gun. Also >>383401574

>>383402089
Xeodrifter is dogshit and worth less than that

>>383402721
And you'll still be projecting your anger when you get BTFO

>>383394098
>Any good must play Metroidvania games?

Symphony of the Night
Aria of Sorrow
Portrait of Ruin
Order of Ecclessia
Pharoah Rebirth+
Super Metroid
Metroid: Zero Mission
La Mulana.

Those are the ones I've played and liked a lot.

>>383402828
Yeah, you're probably right.
It wasn't "awful", but the repetitive bosses and tiny amount of content left a lot to be desired.

>>383402881
How can I be BTFO when people call the genre metroidvania? :^) Looks like i won, my friend.

>>383402352
all of those games are very similar

>>383402982
Because that's the point of contention. You didn't respond to the argument, you just said the mistake in question justifies itself. In other words, not an argument.

>>383400816
kill yourself nigger

>>383397116
>Salt and Sanctuary for frogs

>>383401574
>Castlevania did not make a meaningful contribution to developing this type of game design
>what is several weapons (instead of just shooting with several levels of damage)
>what is leveling
>what is having an actual inventory
I mean, it's not groundbreaking by itself but it pushed the genre forward.

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>>383403146
The point of contention is that you can't deal with reality and you try to dictate people around while they tell you to fuck off. Nothing else.
Your only argument is that it sounds stupid. Which is so weak, it might as well be not an argument.
I also think it's hilarious that you call it a "mistake" to call a genre something that you don't like.
This is what you spend your fucking weekends on, worrying about genre names.

In short: no matter what you say, it won't change shit.

>>383394098
>Metroidvania

You mean 2D side scrolling tansakus?

btw Hollow Knight is still on sale at humble bundle for the anons who missed the steam sales

>>383399698
It looks like something I'd be able to draw on a PC. That's not a good thing.

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>>383399065
>There's nothing wrong with early access

>>383403958
>cutting out the relevant part of the sentence

its 2017 why are faggots still doing this?

>>383403591
no

>>383394098
Several anons mentioned Valdis Story, I'd recommend to give it a try. It's more focused on combat, than exploration, you can play 4 different characters and each of them can be built several different styles.
Refer to >>383395580 list, I think it's pretty solid.

>>383403556
It's stupid because it's inconsistent with how genre names work, and because >>383401574.

Criticizing something doesn't mean you expect it to change on the fly. Just because something is the way it is doesn't mean it's right. That's your argument, "it's right because it is." I also like how you're mocking how I spend my time while you shitpost in the same exact thread.

>>383404568
Genre names work on pure fucking bullshit. The majority of them don't represent the content of the games at all. They're not even consistent across borders.

How about we call them double jump platformers? Or High Mobility Platformers? Roadblock Platformers?

Of course in europe it would be Double Jump Jump and Runs, High Mobility Jump and runs or Roadblock Jump and Runs. And in Japan they would be Double Jump Action games, High Mobility Action games and Roadblock Action games.

Strider 2014 is one of the best

>>383400365
>I thought this was a pretty good one.

PH is criminally under rated. Get the freeware, then buy the + version on steam on sale.

>>383394098
Dead Cells isn't really a metroidvania.

You might want to try, Hollow Knight, La Mulana, Environmental Station Alpha, and another not really metroidvania but still cool is Rain World.
Also Rabi-Ribi? I think it's fucking shit but some people like it so maybe you will too.

>>383405235
Won't say the best but it's pretty underrated

>>383401628
>Hollow Knight has accomplished it pretty well, I don't know.

Garbage art style.

>>383404972
>genre names are bullshit
>proceed to make up non-existent genre naming conventions
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove. The difference is that stupid shit like wolfendoom actually has precedent in metroidvania. And neither should exist.

Again, genre names don't always mean the literal definition of the word, in the context of genres they refer to specific features. Following your own line of argument: you may not like it, but that's how it works. And the difference is that it's consistent.

>tfw I'm the only one who liked Outland

>>383396595
Honestly, If I had the choice between Dead Cells now and Rogue Legacy, I'd pick Dead Cells every time. RL is just a super average platformer with very little rogue-lite elements, DC does all of that better.

>>383405724
I'm not making up shit. I'm from europe and we call platformers Jump and Run games here. I'm not shitting you (and I'm honestly surprised that you don't know this).
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jump_%E2%80%99n%E2%80%99_Run

What I'm proving here is that genre names are fucking irrelevant.

Japan doesn't even know "Visual Novel" as a genre, for them it's adventure games.

>>383406076

Oi, I'm from Merry ol' England mate, and we call dem gaems "pointy shooties" and "jumpie runnies".

>>383406076
>I'm from europe and we call platformers Jump and Run games here.
Wat
I'm from EU as well and even in my native language they're called platformers.

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>>383406260
As I recall, you call fighting games "button bashers".

>>383406076
In France we call them "frog-like games" or "leaping sims"

>>383406076
I didn't mean the regional differences, I meant overly specific shit like "double jump" or "high mobility." That doesn't exist. In fact it works against metroidvania because it's overly specific. If it's irrelevant to you then I don't know why you're even in this discussion.

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>>383407153
>I meant overly specific shit like "double jump" or "high mobility."
It should exist because they're more apt for describing the content of the game. I can't think of many metroidvanias that don't feature some sort of double jump. And all of them give you mobility options as you progress. That's one of the major aspects why people like them. Because it feels good to crawl around in the beginning of the game, when you infi-jump wall grab teleport by the end of the game.

I'm in this discussion because I'm tired of seeing the same shit regurgitated again and again in these threads. It's the same bullshit like in roguelike threads.

It's irrelevant to me because any name is fine. I'm not defending the name "Metroidvania" itself, but I'm rather attacking your belief that genre names mean shit in the first place. There's no right or wrong way to name a genre, and if there is, then almost all of them are already wrong and singling out this genre out of all of them is retarded.