Mech/Mecha Thread

>>383393892
Just started Armored Core Master of Arena. I hope fast sanic builds are viable.

>>383393892
I'd love to discuss this, but there are no new games to talk about and old ones can be discussed only so much before you run out of talking material.

Plz show me some upcoming games, I know of Garison Archangel and the new BattleTech game, but nothing else.

Mechs are a childish remnant of gaming and have been rightfully discarded.

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>>383395389
Here's your (you)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5q0F3EfO1p8

Best part of ZoE 2.

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Starting a new Silent Line run on oldschool PS2, what am I in for?

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Why aren't you playing the greatest robot customization game ever made?

>Still no Robot Alchemic Drive Sequel

>>383395241
http://store.steampowered.com/app/443000/DUAL_GEAR/

Also Gundam Versus

There was an image with a long list of mecha games. Can someone repost it?

May be kind of sideways, but how is LBX on the 3DS? I've been looking for something to scratch the Custom Robo itch and it's like $10 on Amazon. I'm assuming that means it didn't sell very well, but hell I'll take it if it's worth it.

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>>383393892
The Ty series had some adorable mechs.

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>>383395241
Now that I look through my wishlist, I can also see
>Break Arts II
>Dual Gear(as pointed out by >>383395916
while I was writing)
>Strike Vector EX(would this be considered mecha?)
>War Tech Fighters(Has kind of crappy animations, but eh?)
Mostly just looking for stuff on PC.

>>383396194
I've got two pics full of games, although I'm not sure if they are the one's you're looking for.

>>383395649
>spoil the entire story in the intro
what the fuck kojima. the damn intro was too catchy to skip.

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>>383396194
>>383396794

>>383395649
ZoE2 had a fair number of good parts to it.

>>383395729
Because no western release and because it's not on PC(although that might be a lot to ask, judging from how this genre is working out here)

>>383396942
REEEEEEEEEEEACHING OUT TO CATCH THE SUUUUUUUUUN
TO HOLD IT IN YOUR HANDS

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>>383395729
>>383395649
God I fucking love this game, you can create anything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kr126XsQh4

>>383396412

Decent, but the lack of online and lackluster postgame content really drag it down.

I'm surprised there aren't many(if any) games copying the AC series. I think they perfected the genre with FA4. Although I suppose there are things that could be changed, like for example making energy weapons actually viable and making heavy units good.

>>383397658
Nah man, ACs gameplay is secondary compared to the building part.

>>383398289
I agree with that. That being said, the gameplay is a step up from your typical mech FPS or really any western made mech games. Might be a bit biased here though as I pretty much started with AC 3/Last Raven

>>383398728
I really do wonder what the next AC game will be like. Hopefully it comes to PC too, would love the potential mods.

>>383398879
A man can only dream. Just hope it's less AC5/Verdict day and more AC4/For Answer. Hell, I wouldn't mind if they returned to older style.

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Post your favorite vidya mecha.


Also some guy on /m/ is making a mecha game
>>>/m/15654942

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Post mechs.

>>383399140
If it was a mix of all the right things from Verdict Day and 4A it would be perfect. All the crazy flight options and spastic gameplay from 4A but the heavy build style from Verdict Day along with the AI Core development and multiplayer.

>>383397310
>not using nu fin funnels on anubis
come on

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>>383400149
>posting battletech shit

KYS!

>>383400329
The one thing I REALY didn't like about AC5/VD was that bumping dealt damage/cause stun. It made melee weapons unviable. Hell, they're already unviable most of the time what with their lack of range, the fact that they only deal so-so damage and that they don't let you deal constant damage like a lot of other automatic weapons let you.

>>383393892
FUCK Why won't anyone just add mechs to Armored Warfare or World of tanks or some shit
Come on, literally a recipe for success that unites two communities instead of one.

>>383400836
Didn't World of Tanks have an April fools mech addition?

>>383400987
Also I'm pretty certain it also had a Battleship Yamato meme event too.

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>>383400706
Whats wrong with battletech?

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Here, have some SRW. Not sure which one though.

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>>383399679
Ethermaster

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>>383400836
>Armored Warfare or World of tanks

Fuck that, I want Gaijew to make a mech game with War Thunder physics, it'd be pretty cool to play as mechs with such complex module damage and armor penetration mechanics.

And preferably jap style mecha, walking tank western style designs wouldn't be much different from the typical tank gameplay.

>>383400987
That was War thunder with WW2-based tech. It was really fun, but it's like they've forgotten about it entirely.

>>383401274
Question: Who DIDN'T make this AC in the second game?

Turned out it was actually pretty well balanced.

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>>383399679

>>383400745
No dude literally git gud. Melee hits do great damage and you can actually take down most enemy ACs if you manage to land the hits. Best melee weapon is the energy machetes, go for max range in the tuning window when you purchase them.

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Who hyped here?

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>>383401305
You know what would be really amazing? A mecha game made in the style of Everspace. 6 directional movement + those visual really get my imagination going in regards to this topic.

>>383401834
I'll keep that in mind, if I ever decide to replay the game. I only remember using melee in that one mision where the UNACS go out of control and you're suposed to defeat a large amount of 40-50k hp units. All of my ranged weapons ran out of ammo, so melee was my only solution here.

>>383393892
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKtyyvjZb-A
>no mechassault 3
sadface

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>>383401065
>plagiarizes jap mecha designs and makes them look 1000x worse
>every original design is an ugly greeble covered derpy piece of shit with weapon designs that don't look even vaguely functional
>fanbase responds to any criticism with autistic screaming about MUH GRITTY REALISM and UR DUMB MAGICAL JAP SPACE KNIGHTS

Battletech designs are shit and most of their fans are cancer.

>>383395389
wow please keep posting.

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>>383402550
Anon, it's an obvious bait meant to breath life into the thread. Surely you should be able to see it as such, considering the thread topic.

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>>383393892
I just want some game with clickable mech cockpits. Is it too much to ask?

>>383402458
Most of the people that like it are the people that played games about battletech when they were young. I can see your point.

Has anybody played that PSVR game called RIGS? Was it any good?

Okay anons just want to check one last time here. I'm about to emulate one of the AC games but I'm only playing one for now. I have a pretty big backlog as it is.

So which is the best AC game to play? Most of the time I've asked this people tell me to play Last Raven. Although I was told AC3 is good to.

If I end up liking the series I might go pick up For Answer and Verdict Day.

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>>383402458
I always thought the designs were good, some of them are retarded like LAM's but stuff like the Timber Wolf or pic i find aesthetically pleasing

>>383396794
>>383397017
>No Evangelion

>>383404069
evas arent mechs

>>383403795
Uziel is best mech don't u say otherwise

>>383404210
They're biological mechs. They're giant bipedal beings that react to inputs from a pilot inside of them.

Kind of like how the suits in Warframe are organic robots.

Why the fuck was Hawken abandoned?

The devs just fucking abandoned it in Open Beta and sold it off to some other company

Like, what the fuck?
Why?

recommend me the best mecha game

>>383403603
AC3 seems to be a good entry point. Last raven is seen as one of the harder ones, although I remember blowing everyone up with a floating tank style AC with energy cannons out of the ass(atleast in the arena battles). As for For answer and Verdict day, they play in a different style. Not to mention that they did away with heat management.

>>383404210
/m/ would disagree with you there

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>>383402458
lmao weeb stay mad

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>>383404241
Uziel is sex.

>>383404445
Armored Core Last Raven is pure Automaton.

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>>383404417
It's mecha. Apperantly it's a genre that's cursed to not bring much money to whoever invests any of their in it.

>>383404551
pic related

>>383404619
I want to give it missilepod pats

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>>383404445

>>383403603
Silent Line is literally the best mecha game ever made. Go play it.

>>383404551
If Western mechs are so great, why are the majority of them stolen from Japanese IPs like Macross?

>>383405030
what

>>383405030
There are more western mech ip's than battletech you know.

>>383403603
Start with AC3.
The latter ones in the series allow you to carry over your save and tend to be designed with the carried over progress in mind. Especially Last Raven.

>>383404514
>>383404746
>>383405335
So should I just emulate Silent Line, 3 and Last Raven then? I won't be getting around to the others until after I play some other games in my backlog to. I also want to try out a King's Field game. Basically I want to play at least a couple of From Software's other games they made not called Souls or Bloodborne.

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>>383405102
Many of the designs from Battletech and subsequently Mechwarrior come from Macross. This actually lead to a point in 2009 where Harmony Gold, the cancerous tumour that killed any chance of Macross coming to the West properly, sued the at the time newly revealed Mechwarrior game because it was using a Macross design which HG seized all rights too despite having nothing to do with its creation. HG and Robotech is why Japan completely gave up with bringing Macross over here.

Also Heavy Gear takes huge influence from Armored Trooper Votoms.

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>>383404551
Westcuck mechs are for brainlets with shitty aesthetic taste

>>383395705
the worst armored core

>>383405485
huh, well shit...

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>>383405485
>>383405102

>>383405485
Is this the most ironic thing on Earth?

>Japan creates somewhat grounded mecha
>The West steals the designs for various series or gains permanent copyright ownership within the States because of poor negotiating for anime adaptions such as Robotech
>Westcucks hold these designs on a pedestal while saying all Jap mechs are speedy ballerina shit

>>383405483
>Silent Line, 3 and Last Raven

Here's the infographic. At least make sure you can carry over your progress.
>>>/vg/181882140

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>Pacific Rim 2 got a sexy lithe Jaeger

Aw yeah boi

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>>383406583
>Girl robots.
Always the best.

>>383406832
>>383406583
>Thigh missiles
>Chest cannons

Aw yeah boi

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>>383406583
>those hips

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>>383407049
Sorry meant to post this

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>>383406583
>that face

>>383407301
Best bot.

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>western games will never have this level of coolness and excitement in their depictions of mechs

>>383406583
I can fap to this

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I was very happy when the TR-6 got into GB3.

>>383406583
>All the inevitable porn of this Jaeger getting fucked by Kaiju and blasted with a tsunami of jizz

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how did squaresoft get away with it?

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>>383406583
>Those legs
Need moar decals

>>383409937
DO A WOUNDWORT VER.KA YOU SLANTY-EYED FUCK

>>383393892
Armored core and Front mission are the best mech games in my opinion. If your mech game doesn't include customization then what's the point.

>>383410143
You need to play Gundam Breaker 3. The customization is beyond anything you've ever experienced.

I liked titanfall 2 before monarch came out.

>>383410264
I find it hard to believe it's more in depth than armored core.

>>383410264
Too bad it plays worse than a musou game so all that visual customization amounts to nothing.

>>383410264
I'm playing Gundam Breaker 3 right now and I honestly enjoyed customizing mecha in AC:4A more, combining parts from different Gundam universes triggers my canon-fag autism, I want that level of customization but with original designs that go together better like the ones in AC.

And GB3 has too much alternate universe bullshit, seed designs all look the exact same, I want more obscure weird looking UC designs.

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>>383410453
Over 100 Gundam and GM figures each with their own head crests/heads/torsos/shoulders/arms/wings/backpacks/legs/weapons as well as the ability to color each individual part to whatever you want. We're talking literal millions of combinations.
>>383410676
The gameplay in it is better than 90% of AC games. If you can stomach those, you can stomach GB3.
>>383410838
>Caring about canon when it's literally stated you're playing with toys.

>>383410986
You're mostly talking about visuals though. Have you ever played armored core? It gets so detailed you can add small parts to balance your machine in different ways which affects its movement.

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>>383410986
>The gameplay in it is better than 90% of AC games.
Anon, stop.

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>>383410838
>combining parts from different Gundam universes triggers my canon-fag autism

Kitbashing > canonfag autism

>>383411186
The only AC with good gameplay is FA, and I say this as somebody who has been with the series since 98. The only thing that ever compelled me was the customization which had never been done before at the time. Up until FA the gameplay could be summarised as "strafe left/right and mash fire as the enemy hung on the edge of your FCS aim."

>>383411183
Every piece has stats and performance differences that affects weight, stagger, speed, even movesets. Larger variation than what AC parts do beyond leg choice.

>>383411183
>It gets so detailed you can add small parts to balance your machine in different ways which affects its movement.

Legs, boosters and shoulder boosters are literally the only thing that effect turn rates and speed. The rest simply falls under "don't go overweight unless you have the mod part to do so."

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>>383405504
Hey now, I like japanese mecha better than western mechs, but Titanfall's mechs are really good looking. Design aesthetic is paramount when it comes to mechs because they're purely fiction.
Also, chicken legs are a better design for fast movement than human-like legs. Hell, anything is better than human legs, it's one of the shittiest designs in nature.
As for the lack of excessive armor, I'd argue that mobility beats protection in most situations, as per modern combat technology. Weaponry develops faster than protection and force/momentum always beats any armor, but it can't beat something it can't hit.

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>>383411551
>The only AC with good gameplay is FA,
>Up until FA the gameplay could be summarised as "strafe left/right and mash fire as the enemy hung on the edge of your FCS aim."
Anon, stop.
And again, all of that customization(Where's internal and optional parts by the way?) is wasted on the basic gameplay of a Musou game, which can't even remotely compare to AC.
>>383411838
>Legs, boosters and shoulder boosters are literally the only thing that effect turn rates and speed.
>What are optional parts
Do you people actually play AC?
Ah, right, I'm on /v/.

>>383411838
Are you sure? I remember for answer specifically had a system that showed you what side of your mech was heavier and you could attach shit to balance the weight out or put it all on the front to increase movement in that direction at the cost of stopping slower.

>>383406564
Thanks for this I'm definitely just going to go with 3 for now.

>>383412018
Yes I did fucking play Armored Core. Do you want me to go through the whole detail of AC2's ending on Phobos against the two part final boss? The ending of AC3 where you're trying to shut down a giant malfunctioning AI as you're attacked by other Ravens? How about the multiple endings of FA where you either save the Cradles, bring down the satellite grid so man can advance beyond Earth, or kill everybody with Old King?

Jesus man, Armored Core's gameplay is absolute trash excluding FA.

>Strafe left or right
>Hang the enemy on the edge of your FCS to compensate for the Kurasawa's projectile delay
>Except for 3 and after where it sucked fucking balls
>Win every battle

The #1 AC in the Arena was Ares, the #1 in AC3 was Arcadia.

>>383412018
>is wasted on the basic gameplay of a Musou game

The enemies in Gundam Breaker actually fight back and deal heavy damage. This comparison to a Musou game where you just whack on brainless enemies is retarded.

>>383412424
It sounds like you didn't play past Silent Line, where that strat no longer works even with OP parts.

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>>383412585
I played Ninebreaker and Last Raven, the gameplay is LITERALLY the exact same. Hell both those games use many parts that AC3 introduced.

Again, AC's gameplay peaked at FA and it was retarded to throw it out the window with V which was also trash.

>>383412674
Fuck you.

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>>383399679
Where my Brigadors at?

>>383412005
>Hell, anything is better than human legs, it's one of the shittiest designs in nature.

Thanks for proving me correct about the brainlet part.

>>383412674
I thought this fucker was hard in Master of Arena and then I went up against him in another age.
Jesus fuck.

>>383412005
Human bipedal legs are the most efficient form of locomotion in the animal kingdom.

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>>383400218
FUCK OFF TONE

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>>383405504
>Implying that is the average gook mech and not a fucking robo unicorn
>Implying any of that shit is a "realistic" military design

>>383393892

Man OP's image is part of this whole genre of mecha design that is basically "yeah, I saw District 9 too."

>>383412768
>>383412943
It's true, though. We're far from being the fastest/most agile species in the animal kingdom. Human feet aren't designed for proper running like, say, a kangaroo's or a cheetah. No wonder so many athletes wish they could chop their feet off to replace them with Flex-Foot prosthetics. And that's without mentioning all the different injuries you can get from stumbling.
http://www.businessinsider.com/how-paralympic-athletes-run-2012-8

>>383412424
>The ending of AC3 where you're trying to shut down a giant malfunctioning AI as you're attacked by other Ravens?
I hope you mean AI controlled ACs.
Also, where's stuff like Nexus or Last Raven, you did beat Last Raven, did you anon?
>Strafe left or right
>Hang the enemy on the edge of your FCS to compensate for the Kurasawa's projectile delay
>Except for 3 and after where it sucked fucking balls
>Win every battle
Wonderful generalization, Anon.
I'd like to see you doing that with Rimfire, or Zinaida, or the Last Pulverizer.
Also, I like to use blades, I'm also pretty good with them, how do I win by strafing left and right now?
>AC's gameplay peaked at FA
Oh right, the game where all the builds are the same and you actually just OB left and right with zero penalties because outside of five missions everything is on an open field.
>>383412576
>The enemies in Gundam Breaker actually fight back and deal heavy damage
Don't tell me you play Musoushit on easy.

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>>383412990
Northstar is best girl, I want her to be my wife!

>>383413343
>I'd like to see you doing that with Rimfire, or Zinaida, or the Last Pulverizer.

Literal Youtube gameplay of someone strafing left and shooting Zinaida at the edge of his FCS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLh7UJ_zjAQ

>>383412018
>only just now realized how eerily similar Black Iron Tarkus' helm is to Foxeye's head
I feel dumb

>>383412752
my main gripe with this game is that the models are too small so I cant appreciate the mechs properly

>>383395915
>What is Remote Control Dandy SF

>>383413308

Two legged animals aren't designed for speed. Not only do they have half as many legs as a four legged animal, which obviously translates into less muscle power, but having two legs also means you need balance.

Two legs however (and the human body in general) are designed for endurance. We might not run the fastest, but we sure as shit can run longer and further than any other animal.

>>383413343
Okay now I'm confused, is Musoushit easy or is it hard? One minute you're saying it's brainless and now you're deriding for somebody by implying they play the games on easy, which insinuates they take some skill on harder difficulties.

>>383413645
>>383413645
>Two legged animals aren't designed for speed.
And that's my point. Agile mechs with nature-inspired leg designs (ostritch/chicken leg designs etc.) are better than fully armored, slower ones with human-like legs in most situations because they have a better chance of evading enemy fire, instead of just tanking shots until they explode.
Human endurance doesn't really matter for mechs because they're machines.

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>>383405504
>Weebs bitch about everything being realistic
>The second somebody demolishes them in style they bitch about realism
Weebs really are the epitome of delusional

>>383413308
Do you want speed or do you want something that can support fuck-tons of weight without breaking it's legs and cover multiple times the distance before getting tired out thanks to plantigrade legs using less energy?

The reason humans are the best hunters on earth is because no animal can outrun us forever, a deer might run away faster than a human can chase it but the human can just follow it's tracks at a comfy pace for a while to find it tired out then beat it to death with a rock for funsies.


Take your digitigrade furfag bullshit and pisseth off.

>>383413573
Makes it easier to appreciate the destruction you bring, though!

>>383413462
Yeah, that's a build built specifically for her mission though, big difference, which also marks the difference between someone good enough to beat her without a hard counter and someone that uses premade builds.
And I'm really curious to know how is that different from any AC either, or are you really saying that AC4/4A aren't literally Free OB:the game? There's a reason most vets laugh at 4 babbies when they say that their game is any special.
>>383413709
I'm merely saying that even enemies in Musoushit fight back and deal heavy damage, but unless you're a geriatric fuck with arthritis the reaction time of a sloth on meth it's not even remotely a problem, same with GB3.

>>383413924
The reasons humans are on the top of the foodchain is because retards like you aren't able to breed.

>>383413924
>Do you want speed or do you want something that can support fuck-tons of weight without breaking it's legs and cover multiple times the distance before getting tired out thanks to plantigrade legs using less energy?
Now we're going into full muh realism bickering.
I want something balanced. If I wanted to carry 5 fucking howitzer guns on a vehicle I'd pick a 4-legged artillery mech, not a human-legged one. If I want speed with good firepower I'd pick a hind-legged one.
>No animal can outrun us forever
But they can outrun you until you're tired enough to be killed when recovering. Also, stop applying this stupid bullshit to mechs. We're talking robots, not organic creatures.
By the way we're only "the best" hunters because our intellect allowed us to create tools to kill other animals with. Without that, we're naturally at the bottom of the food chain.
Fuck
off

>>383414230
>Yeah, that's a build built specifically for her mission though, big difference

Anon, he's using pistols. There has never been a good pistol in AC, they're all low damage, low ammo capacity weapons that only became somewhat useful with the introduction of pistol side weapons in AC3. He beat Zanaida with one of the worst weapons in the game by strafing left and firing.

>>383413924
>>The reason humans are the best hunters on earth is because no animal can outrun us forever,

Note that persistence hunting only works in hot environments, the animal dies of stroke and exhaustion because they're unable to regulate their breathing and run at the same time.
Efficient man-legs help but they're only a small part in the overall process.

A polarbear could outrun you until you died of exposure.

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>>383414516
>There has never been a good pistol in AC
Why do I even bother coming to this board anymore.
You're probably one of those morons who still parrot the old meme that Machineguns aren't viable in LR because of the fire rate speed or that back cannons can't be used on bipeds.

>>383405820
ACV is the worst. Silent line tries too hard to be MOTA

>>383393892
im having a lot of fun playing Front Mission 3

anyone know if Ring of Red is any good?

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>>383413924
I see you skipped your biology classes.

>>383415037
It's decent. But very slow.

>>383413903

Actually, legs in general are terrible for mech designed because of endurance. Just because they are robots doesn't mean they are not subject to physical stresses and strains. Having two legs support a massive weight is going to fuck them up badly, the joints in particular will just crumple.

It's one of the reasons tanks don't have legs but instead wheels and treads (wheels are also much simpler and less prone to failure, more energy efficient and capable of significantly higher speeds).

>>383413913
>Westcucks go on and fucking on about realism as the sole defense for their shitty mecha designs for years
>The second someone points out they know fuck all about realism and their designs are retarded they suddenly love CUHRAYZEE CAWADOODY NOT-MECHA

Weebs talk about realism when it comes to western mecha because western mecha fans hardly ever shut the fuck up about it, so real mecha fans have to point out how wrong they are.


Enjoy your dead game, faggot.

>>383407941
Where is this Gundam from, and why does it look like a Vic-Viper rip off from ZOE?

>>383413924
lmao what a retard

>>383415274
Not an argument.

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>>383415212
It's the Woundwort from Advance of Zeta.
Not even the best looking mech, that privilege goes to delicious Kehaar II.

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>>383415198
Nice goalpost moving weeb.

>>383415198
>Westcucks
God I fucking hate weebs.

>>383413308
Human locomotion isn't designed to be fastest or agile, its designed to be durable and reliable. We didn't outrun our prey, we outlasted them. Human cardio and musculature evolved to be terminator-esque.

>>383415198
None of the shit you posted is realistic in any way faggot.

>>383414890
>or that back cannons can't be used on bipeds.

What? Grab the fucking part mod usually by completing the game once/defeating somebody in the arena and you can walk with back weapons.

Pistols were never viable. In every AC up until 4, laser weapons outclassed everything. Then it was ballistic weapons in AC4 and beyond.

>muh weebshit
>muh westcucks
You're all faggots talking about a niche involving children's toys and tin cans
Can't we just learn to get along and enjoy our love for giant robots

>>383415815
The grand majority of them. Even the lowliest indie-shit today shows you the parts visually.

If it's been mentioned in this thread unironically and has any sort of upgrades, it has them visual as well.

Armored Core makes you build your robot from scratch. for instance. Gundam Breaker 3 in the first portion of this thread is all about making your own virtual model with endless detail. Et cetera.

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>>383415453
>I'll just call him a weeb and post some shitty deviant art tier monochrome clusterfuck design, t-that'll show him!

Jap robot girl is inevitably better than that dogshit you posted.
Neck yourself, pleb.

>>383415887
>Grab the fucking part mod usually by completing the game once/defeating somebody in the arena and you can walk with back weapons.
>LR
>Human+
Anon...
>Pistols were never viable.
Anon, even in SL they were literally the only weapon together with rifles that was used in high level PVP because they outclassed anything else by far, and this is without considering that you yourself posted a video of someone beating Zinaida with pistols.
But since you evidently don't know that LR doesn't have Human+ and still keep on saying that Pistols, one of the parts with faster projectile speed and amazing balance in terms of weight, damage, heat and magazines were never viable, it only makes further discussion pointless.

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>>383416487
>Take generic anime mannequin
>Add some lines that just make her look like a barbie
Great design. Just like 99% of anime it's just taking a template, slapping on some different colored hair and clothes and calling it a new character.

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>>383415887
Not that anon but you kinda proved that discussing AC isn't worth it on /v/

Pistols are great hangar or supplement weapons. Dual wielding those revolvers in LR yields amazing damage output. I usually dual wield them then discard it for a stored blade on my quad while using back weapon for main damage.

Also, when you're discussing competitive AC nobody is talking about Human+/OP-I shit. That shit isn't allowed. What that anon is saying that using back weapons while crouching can be a great opening act in an arena. Especially if you're a heavy with EO.

>>383416526
>PVP

Oh I see, shit nobody cares about. I mean, it's not like ACV and its expansion wasn't a total fucking bomb because all of the content was online and at most maintained a playerbase of 100 before dying.

>>383415627
>Call them weebs
>Expect for them to not come up with something to call you in return

>>383416923
>Oh I see, shit nobody cares about.
Kill yourself.

>it's not like ACV and its expansion wasn't a total fucking bomb
ACV IS THE BEST SELLING ARMORED FUCKING CORE IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE

And VD is still active among Japanese players.

This thread has given me brain damage.

>>383417097
>ACV IS THE BEST SELLING ARMORED FUCKING CORE IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE
Last I checked it was Armored Core 2.

>And VD is still active among Japanese players.
Too bad you can't play with them unless you want a horrendous laggy as fuck experience.

No seriously, who gives a flying fuck about AC PVP.

>>383416929
But they are weebs.

What in the fuck is a westacuck anyway? You're already a westerner and adding a cuck to it is pointless. Making fun of westerners for being western only cements their self-hating wannabe (weeb) faggotry.

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>>383416923
>Oh I see, shit nobody cares about.
>All ACs literally had a PVP function which was arguably the main draw
>He never experienced high level AC PVP
>He never followed the JP PVP tournaments since AC3 and the amazing SL PVP
>ACV and VD's were literally all about PVP

>Hurr nobody cares about PVP in AC guize
Jesus christ it sucks to be you.

>>383417481
>All ACs literally had a PVP function which was arguably the main draw
I have never once cared for the PVP in a series that's main selling point was mech customization.

I'm sure it's real exciting watching the limited movement of ACs in past games before FA as two bricks bob through the air.

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>>383417481
He's a lost cause my nigga. Probably a secondary FAg as well.

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RICHARDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>383417671
>Literally told you I started with the series in 98
>MUH SECONDARIES

Man, I wonder what it's like being involved with an irrelevant PVP scene.

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Arguing about realism in video games is dumb enough.
Arguing about the realism of GIGANTIC WALKING ROBOTS is profoundly stupid.
The only realistic mecha is human sized or relatively human sized robots/power armor.

If we're talking videogame mecha, then rule of cool is obviously the most important, and Japan clearly outdoes the west in most regards.
The question is why we haven't gotten a decent mecha/robot game with some Keith Thompson designs.

>>383417097
>ACV IS THE BEST SELLING ARMORED FUCKING CORE IN THE ENTIRE FRANCHISE
>And VD is still active among Japanese players.

And both V and VD are the worst games in the series by a landslide. How is this good?

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>>383417638
>limited movement of ACs in past games before FA
Yep, it's a secondary FAg.

Any mech games with similar aesthetic and/customization comparable to V5 Armored Core?

I miss Verdict Day.

>>383417924
Are you illiterate? I have been playing AC since the first game which was released in 1998. One of my first games for the PS2 was Armored Core 2. Did you know you can enjoy a game with subpar gameplay? Because before FA, that's what AC had. The appeal for any sensible person was the mech building. If you like the gameplay, you have downs.

>>383417817
>The only realistic mecha is human sized
If it's not big and a human can't get inside to pilot it, it's not a mecha, just a robot.
If a human can get inside and pilot it but it's not giant, it's just power armor.
If it's giant but a human can't get inside to pilot it, then it's just a giant robot.
Guess which one this thread's about, dumbo.

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>>383417895
>dude it's a bomb!
>no it's not, it's the complete opposite
>b-but it's shit right xDDDD
kys, FAggot.

>>383413343
>playing FA in singleplayer
you fucked up. Multiplayer is the best part of any armored core and mp on FA especially was amazing.

>>383417895
>And both V and VD are the worst games in the series by a landslide
Why is that?

Because unless I was missing something crucial, the PS2 AC plays like dogshit.

>>383418093
Mecha is all things mechanical.
Cars are also mecha.

>>383418137
Who are you quoting? I'm jumping in here telling you that V and VD are garbage, worse gameplay than both the original games and 4/FA

>SCAN MODO
>SCAN MODO
>SCAN MODO
>SCAN MODO
>SCAN MODO
>SCAN MODO

>>383418086
>I have been playing AC since the first game which was released in 1998.
>spouts shit like this >>383415887
>doesn't even know that OP-I wasn't a thing after SL
>can't even name the part
I also fucked your mother last night. I never lie on the internet :^)

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>>383418225

>>383417740
>make game based in and on US
>never release it overseas
What logic? Is it because of the Statue of Liberty?
>>383418093
>not giant
Depend on how large it is in proportion to person to be power armour. I just see it that if its worn or has no cockpit then it's a power armour

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>>383417638
>I have never once cared for the PVP
>In a series that actively encouraged PVP in every single game
>In a series where customization was literally for PVP since campaigns have always been pathetically easy outside of LR
>In a series where multiple games were build almost exclusively for PVP
>In a series where literally all the actual meat and skill is in PVP

You're like one of those people playing FGs for the singleplayer, no wonder you spout shit like pistols being unviable or limited movement in pre 4 AC when the only game with better movement than LR is VD.

>>383418093
Also there's no clear distinction between robot and piloted machine.
Drones have many robotic (autonomous reaction) functions despite receiving extensive human input, for instance.

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>>383417817
>Rule of cool
I understand what you're getting at. Personally I think 99% of japanese designs are dumb because they always add spikes and shit to make it so their designs have more going on but it just puts me off. Personal taste though.

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>>383393892
Mech is far from the best genre in video games. And the only good mech games are Japanese ones. American mechs are too slow.

>inb4 realistic

Actually if mechs were real, they'd be made to be as fast, mobile and flexible as possible. It makes no sense to have a slow moving vehicle with joints like that of a humanoid figure. It doesn't matter how much armor it has, it would be wasted. Just make a better tank and have more of them. There's your far better option than mechs in battle.

>>383418278
see
>>383418161

I'll concede that weapons balance is fucked, and that SCAN MODO is annoying, but what makes it so much worse than the other AC games?

>>383418340
FROM got scared people would think they were making fun of them and pussed out.

>>383418316
That's literally what mecha is short for.
Mechanical.

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>>383417638
>I have never once cared for the PVP in a series that's main selling point was mech customization.
One of the main selling points was always the ability to pit your creation in the arena against real players.

I bet you completely missed the point of NB and FF. Hell I bet you were also surprised why V had a focus on multiplayer.

>>383418554
and anime is shorthand for animation but not every animation is anime

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>>383418458
>Personally I think 99% of japanese designs are dumb because they always add spikes and shit
I think you're talking out your ass.

>>383418303
Because I thought you were talking about singleplayer, and the only reason someone would think back weapons such as the chainguns or grenade launchers on bipeds suck is because you lack the mod part to walk with them which was the case in the older games. Sorry I'm not autistic enough to remember the name of parts either.

>In a series that actively encouraged PVP in every single game
Last I checked the main focus thrown in my face was that I'm a mercenary employed to complete missions with my mech and customize it to my hearts content. The gameplay in the older games is so shallow that there's no fucking way the PVP was engaging in the slightest.

>>383418676
They are if you live in japan.
Also anime is not shorthand.
It's the full word.

>>383405504
What is the mech on the right? Left I'm assuming is Titanfall.

>>383418651
>Hell I bet you were also surprised why V had a focus on multiplayer.

Correct, I returned the game within a week because it was an utter disappointment with no players to even enjoy the singleplayer. I promptly went back to Silent Line which I hold a soft spot for.

>>383418734
>The gameplay in the older games is so shallow that there's no fucking way the PVP was engaging in the slightest.
Must be why they were recording big PVP tournaments in Japan since AC3.

>>383418885
By "big" are we talking "tournaments" at a local arcade with the prize being some tickets for the machines and a few AC figures?

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>>383418682
What is the point of the giant spikes on their backs? Exactly my point. It just adds clutter to the design. It's fine, but just don't ever expect me to take it seriously.

>>383418973
>If it's not EVO stuff it ain't a tournament!
I bet you think VD's tournaments had prizes too.
>at a local arcade
>AC
>Arcades
Are you actively trying to look as retarded as possible, anon?
Because I'm seriously impressed.

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>>383418734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXq58tcKJJA

>>383418973
Not that guy but no. Entire teams were being formed and it was basically FGC lite. Complete with broadcasts and hosts. Even Korean and other Asian teams were competing in the tournaments.

Just stop talking.

>>383418787
>Also anime is not shorthand.
>It's the full word.
アニメは、アニメーションの略語である[1]。

>>383413645
>>383413308
>evolution
>designed
Pick one and only one.

>humans have best endurance

Nope. Antelopes have better endurance and they're four legged.

/v/ is so bad at talking anything silence related it's not even funny.

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>>383402202
>A fully operational Macross valkyrie in KSP

Holy fuck

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>>383419020
Comms you dip, and funny that in just the post before you showed me a mecha designer who went and made this thing.
And it still looks a fair bit better than that piece of shit you just posted.

>>383419225
>>383419208
>Even Korean and other Asian teams were competing in the tournaments.

So what, like maybe five times consisting of a handful of people? Are you this desperate to make this tiny as fuck PVP scene bigger than it actually is? Because these are tiny fucking countries and this is a niche game even in Japan where it's dwarfed by the yearly Gundam game.

>>383415393
Not him but he's right. You're retarded.

>>383419330
>Needing antennas that big for comms
>Exposed antennas too
Disgusting

>>383419281
Whatever dude, I'm no nip.

>>383402202
MAH KUH ROSS
MAH KUH ROSS

>>383419208
>If it's not EVO stuff it ain't a tournament!
dude i can make a tournament at my house and get 20+ people to come, it doesn't make it noteworthy

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>have to wait until September now to get Gundam Versus

might just buy it twice, don't know if I can wait

>>383419495
>somehow ignores that >>383419020 has multiple exposed joints

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When the fuck is that guy going to finish TSF Forefront?

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>>383419330
Chappie wasn't made by the designer of District, Greg Broadmore and Weta had nothing to do with Chappie. Also even if communication were the reason they wouldn't need 6 giant spikes coming out of their back.

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>>383419419
>So what, like maybe five times consisting of a handful of people?
>tiny fucking countries
You're a moron. Asia and especially Japan and Korea are big on pro gaming. These countries are the biggest consumers in this industry and constantly have the most populated communities in competitive games. Fighters, MOBAs, MMOs, Starcraft etc. are all majority Asian.

This will be your last (You). You're not only a seconadry, you're also a complete retard on his own.

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>>383393892

nice looking mech, never seen that one.
too bad this thread is always the same two guys just talking about gundam

>>383395705

skip, play ac2, then nexus and last raven.

>>383395729

probably because AC LR/Nexus/4/FA are holding that spot

>>383401664

probably everyone because you only get the Karasawa and the human+ pretty late. I mean human+ shows a major design flaw in the game tho. With it on, there is no reason to do anything other than light-medium weight biped with cannons. With it off a lot of coolness and flexibility is lost.

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>>383419495
Yeah, well that boxy piece of crap can't bend its waist left or right and has handlebars in positions that place unnecessary stress on the arm joints if they're ever used.

>>383419758
Those robots are construction robots, they're not built for combat dummy.

>>>/m/

>>383405820
>>383419867
>skip, play ac2, then nexus and last raven.
Are you guys for real? AC2 and AA are trash in comparison to 3 and SL.

>>383419853
>Can't read and still thinks I started with FA
>Is this upset because this whole AC PVP garbage is completely irrelevant outside of Asia

The gameplay you posted looked about the same as a fight against the typical #1 Arena bot by the way. How compelling.

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>>383419758
You can't cover joints without hindering movement unless you use fabrics like this but then it just ends up ugly as fuck.

>>383420058
But then who cares about appearances over practicality then

>>383401220
Moon Dwellers

>>383413416
I used to be a Tone main, but now I only used Northstar or Monarch

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>>383419964

didnt play AA but why is AC2 trash compared to 3? I played both back to back and ultimately sticked to 3 because it was all around better and newer, but I liked quite a few things more about AC2.

>>383420106
Everyone who likes mechs care about their fucking appearance dumbass. Rule of cool is the basis of any mech design.

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If you could control them as good.

>>383420225
>Chest cannon meme
Where the fuck does the pilot stay then?

>>383420058
You can do a much better job.
Take a look at asimo or any other bot with balljoints or some other variant.

>>383417178
welcome to /v/

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>>383419419
Anon, for the last time, no matter how much you try to move the goalpost, every AC player worth his salt is and always was on the PVP scene.
You evidently are not one of those, but literally all the core part of the fanbase is heavily PVP oriented, which is why there were many games that were either exclusively PVP based, like Formula Front or Ninebreaker, or games that were very heavily PVP based, like V or VD which also included team play if you need even more of a hint.

AC is nonexistent out of Japan so it's obvious 90% of the tournament related stuff was japanese only, the games only started getting slightly less japanese based in terms of userbase with V and VD, despite opening up considerably with stuff like 4A.

The fact that you desperately try to shitpost your way out of any argument only makes you look more pathetic.
>The gameplay you posted looked about the same as a fight against the typical #1 Arena bot by the way. How compelling.
Said by someone who never did any PVP it's pretty rich, well, you wouldn't last a second in an actual AC match anyway.
>>383420325
Depends on the core build, usually the cockpit is located in the back/shoulder part.
Said cannons are really only a anti missile measure, they're peashooters meant to shoot or trim down Itano circuses

>>383420325
AC's are like 10 stories tall.
He could be in the fucking pinky finger if he needed to be.

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>>383420384
>Balljoints
>Not the zenith of mech design: artificial musculature
INFERIOR DESIGNS BEGONE

I'm really excited for AC6. Sorry to interrupt shitposting and arguments. I was really happy when it was confirmed to be in the works.

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>>383420225
Trash might be a harsh word but 3/SL are infinitely superior. 2 had poor balancing, difficulty spikes (albeit this is arguable) and most importantly fucking awful slowdowns that rendered the game unplayable with certain setups and missions.

It did have some really cool ideas though, like Limiter Release.

>>383420325
Pilot is still in the cockpit. The turret in front of him is just an anti-missile weapon that fires automatically.

>>383420506
ACs aren't that big. They're like 10 meters. Still plenty of room in the core.

>>383420497
I'm pretty certain if somebody could beat Ninebreaker in MoA and beyond, they could beat the average AC player in PVP. The skill ceiling doesn't expand much further beyond what NB can pull out of you.

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>>383420581
>Pilot cockpit is in the head
Oh wow.
Enjoy getting squashed when another mech crushes your bot's head in/rips it off.

>>383402954
how is the progress on this game? are there proper missions yet?

>No AC with 4 arms
It's shit
>>383420572
When are we getting a damn teaser? TGS? Just give me something

>>383420325

its not a cannon. its either a radar/antenna type of thing or an small anti-missile laser system.

cores hold generator, cooling system, boosters to glide/move and either overboost for fast travel or detachable gunpods.

the pilot would be located in the head, which is part of the radar system.

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>>383420739
>Pilot cockpit is in the head
Eh? No he's in the chest. The core part. I didn't mention head. Head is just a camera.

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what are you guys going on about?
Sometimes you want dirty and grimy, punchy murder weapons. Heavy and bombastic.
At others you want fast and sleek, graceful machines that destroy everything with precision. Showy and spectacular.
And then there are times when you want both at once. And you can have them.
Such is the beauty of giant robots.

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>>383402954
>DCS with mechs
If I wanted to get bored I'd play ARMA.

>>383420562
You can play warforged in Diablo 3?

>>383420572
I can't wait for it.

I wish there was a TitanFall like game only it's an mmo and and anti titan weapons were hella nerfed

>>383419945
this thread is about mecha vidya you triple nigger

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>>383420901
>the pilot would be located in the head
What the hell? Where is this coming from? They're IN the core. You can see Zinaida coming out of it and multiple artworks and manga showcased it. You can also see little seat if you zoom in the chest without the head.

Radiators are in front of the boosters and generators are in the stomach. When you're making your AC in LR for example you can see the parts glowing in the locations where they're placed.

>>383421120
Shit I meant it was a *rpg not mmo

>>383420703
>The skill ceiling doesn't expand much further beyond what NB can pull out of you.
Not even close.
Ninebreaker's campaing is only good to teach you the very basics of getting accustomed to basic mechanics, spacing and react to various types of weapons, the AI is very limited and can be easily exploited, a fight against a human being is a whole different world starting from basic movements alone, let alone the fact that PVP builds are completely different from campaign builds.
You can't expect a human to eat or even evade missiles like the AI does, nor you can expect a human to target you and poke you like an AI does, especially considering the simple fact that said AI is cheating and has inflated stats.

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Anyone else enjoying the fact that fucking Microsoft of all people has brought back Virtual On by putting it on the Bone?

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I just want a mech game that plays exactly like how the Front Mission intro are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhPmmxZQHe0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDk0IDa3ODw

>>383421434
Is it gonna be on Steam as well or just exclusive?

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QUICK, POST YOUR FAVORITE MECHA FROM A NON MECHA GAME
>>383421549
It's the 360 Arcade version so I doubt it.

>>383419419
You are hopeless and just want to discredit anything that doesn't follow exactly in line with your shifty excuse of a bad opinion. You are the cancer killing /v/. You.

>>383420058
is this the worst looking robot ever? its surprising that its from cod too. arent they supposed to make their shit look cool to attract kids ?

>>383421520
That's the kind of attitude that got you Front Mission Evolved.
You'll take your turn based and you'll like it.

>>383421520
Most Votoms and pre 4 AC games play exactly like that, well AC games let you fly a bit too though.
The relatively new Damascus Gears franchise from A+ also does, but it's a diablolike with mechs, still very fun for what it is.

>>383420619
what a cool design except his shitty blades

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Listen to this /m/an >>383420939

/v/ mecha threads were fun once. Then all this pointless bullshit started with "weebs" and "westacucks". Honestly I'd rather shitpost in those "tank versus mech" threads on /k/ than post here.

>>383415184
When someone argues this i always wonder. If we were to reintroduce tanks to mech game like titanfall would the tanks even stand a shance?

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Theres a minecraft style space game being made by a french dude called Sky Wanderers. You can make ships and fly to other planets and harvest materials to build more shit.

He recently showed off that youll be able to have Halo style ring worlds, and if you make the ring wider you can have massive round colonies like in muh gundums.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB2axlbHso8

But then he recently showed this off, and he has a system where you can take an endoskeleton for a mech, and buil on it to make whatever kind of mech you want.

People are going to build fucking gundam colonies, and fight in them with gendums and ships, or have people transporting their mechs to other planets in dropships so have robot battles.

Movements janky right now, the games still early alpha as fuck.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_l7bj5bDcE

>>383421986
>If we were to reintroduce tanks to mech game like titanfall would the tanks even stand a shance?
Battlefield 2142 had both and tanks were superior in the damage and armor department but mechs were faster and could climb shit.

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>>383421653
>tfw lost planet is dead

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>>383420581

I liked a few things more.
>some parts looked better
>the karasawa, as broken as it was - looked better, could stun and had a satisfying sound+explosion
>sounds in general were superior in ac2 - in ac3 explosions were like a wind gust :(
>cuz of this everthing felt pretty weak, even the largest shoulder cannon..
>the story was pretty solid and Klein was badass
>liked the music more too

I didnt even know limtier release existed desu, at least I never used it.

>>383420739

I mean.. ACs are very agile and usually operate at range, but yeah. enjoy getting roasted when a projectile penetrates the torso of your wanzer I guess.

>>383421156

Ah sorry I wasnt sure. Thanks for clearing that up. I have only played 2 and 3.

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>>383422173
>tfw when Freedom Wars was basically Lost Planet Lite but with portable Zoids
>Can't have your own mechabeast bro despite the opening cinematic showing characters having one.

Sony can't do anything right.

>>383421654
Your post is just as useless as that entire shitfest. You can play AC however the fuck you want, I'm astounded /v/ laughs at somebody who plays the game for the creation part.

>>383422492
Don't play the victim here bitch. People were shitposting you because you tried to downplay and discredit the PVP aspect, not because you merely preferred the single player.

>>383420048
Not him but Christ is it hilarious how hard you try to keep trying to continue your shitty argument.

>>383422619
I'm not who you apparently think I am.

>>383421120
I wish there was a titanfall game were you start as a grunt until you earn becomming a pilot.

>>383422132
2142 fucking needs a sequel it was the best battlefield

>>383422173
>Lost planet
>Non-mecha game

>>383422710
True, this would be great

>>383422619
>>383422654
I'm reading through this and the argument went to shit because people kept saying the anon never played Armored Core and that he doesn't have a clue what he's talking about because he said pistols sucked, which in the case of the singleplayer that is in fact true since they don't have the ammo capacity to kill hordes of grunts. The whole conversation is the equivalent of swatting a dog's nose and wondering why it's barking at you. Like yeah the barking is retarded and incomprehensible, but it didn't come out of nowhere. The guy probably had an autistic fit and tried to save face.

>>383422173
Sad. Great game, great story, great controls, awesome graphics, great mecha, great enemies, good action.

>>383423053
But for the longer missions filled with enemies you usually want either a rechargeable energy EO or much better an inside core that can store pistols for more ammo.

>>383402954
https://youtu.be/na530jGHOtI?t=2m24s
yes

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So did pic related ever go anywhere? I remember being hype as hell last year when this got leaked.

>>383422173
Fucking westacuck conman and his Dead Space ripoff idea for 3. Fuck you Inafune.

>>383422984
And bring back 1st pov entering animations

Phantom Crash sequel when?

>>383419020
The "spikes" are shown to contain cameras on the end for peeking out of cover, among other functions.

>Calls other designs cluttered
>Posts that overdesigned piece of shit

You're a fucking idiot.

>>383420572
It's the only game besides Beyond Good And Evil 2 I'm excited too.

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>>383393892

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>>383393892
What's better: Mechs with guns or mechs with swords?

>>383423340
Mobile game

>>383423340
Turned out to be a mobile MOBA. Zoids is dead outside of the model kits.

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>>383423813
Why not both?

>>383423796
What about Ace Combat 7 senpai?

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>>383423813
Mechs with dicks. Preferably dicks that double as guns/swords, but the dicks are the important part.

>>383423850
>>383423872
Those sick fucking bastards. That's diabolical.

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>>383423813
All the guns.

I'm making a mecha game. I have very little to show for it since I work a lot and my main development PC suffered a hard drive failure, but I'll do my best.

There's a ton of people making mecha games in fact. A dude I know is making a mecha version of Dark Souls, their mecha Solaire is pretty cool.

>>383423053
So we're supposed to accept the fact he can't man the fuck up?

Nah.

What's the best part of mecha games?

>>383424140
Not at all, just saying there was an actual reason for his outburst. I know when somebody says I haven't played a series I love I do get pretty ticked off about it.

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I just want a mech game where the mechs are huge lumbering apartment building sized machines.

Imagine if they remade RAD with modern graffix?

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Is there any other large-scale battle in any mecha game that lets you shoot down a fleet of spaceships?

>>383424554
Another Century's Episodes and Macross Triangle Frontier.

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>>383424634
post some webms or links m8

>>383424554
>>383424713
Please don't post ZOE, I know it's been four years since the Enders Project was cancelled but I'm still pissed.

What do you guys want to see in the AC6 reveal trailer?

For me I just want to see a pilot walking in a darkly lit large hanger with some 2deep4u plot related speech or ominous music playing, large lights begin to flicker on revealing a large winged Armored Core in the back of the hanger in full HD. Pilot puts on his helmet that has RAVEN on the back and the main sensory laser light of the AC head unit lights up scanning him and the cockpit hatch opens.

Fade to black.
Armored Core 6. Ravens Return.

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>>383424791
wont stop hurting

>>383424448
>Apartment sized
Zeonic Front was close to that. Would be nice to have a proper sequel.

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>>383421659
I've seen many horrible things anon.

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>>383421830
This better?

why are armored core's controls so bad

I just want to be a cool mech

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>>383423813
>>383424113
>Not both
Get
fucking
real