Grimoire, a dungeon crawler that has been in development for

Yeah, we know.

>>383124715
?whatever?

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https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/grimoire-heralds-of-the-winged-exemplar

Do I need a DOS based system to play it?

Never heard of this why was it in development for so long?

>>383124858
>$10,598
fuck

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>proposed price $39.95

Looks like it could be interesting.

Might pirate it.

>>383125102
This game has 600 hours of gameplay.
It should cost more.

It's really hilarious to read the hipster indie game devs raging on threads like that.

>>383125179
it's 600 hours because every single fight is 15 minutes long

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>>383124959
Political instability in the Republic of Thailand, don't sapes read the news?

>>383125306
>insure

Wow he sure does sound smrt.

>>383125179
Any game has 600 hours of gameplay, all you have to do is play it for 600 hours.
The question is: are those 600 hours worth?

>>383124715
Christ, fuck off shilling your game for just one day for fucks sake, its pathetic.

>>383125252
>muh 8bit art
>inclusive game play point and click potato brain friendly
>muh twitter followers
You're still young, get a real degree and then later a real job. Video games can be a hobby as well.
You don't need to shill because you lack of talent, you just had bad decisions in life, at least make a good one and stop being a moron.

I bet nobody will even take the 30 minutes needed to crack the game and release a pirated version.

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GRIMNOIRE GESTALT
Watch for quick rundown:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyXSCd2Lp0

>>383124959
See pic

>>383125589
If they're perfectionists why does it look like utter shite?

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>>383125381
>sapes

>>383125545
>crack
i bet that you can play in literal copy pasted folder from steam

>>383125696
because being a perfectionist doesn't mean you are good at art

>>383124715
Looks like shit.

>>383125765
Now quick, look up the words guarantee and indemnity.

Can any race be any class, or are there restrictions? If there are, how restrictive are they?

>transphobic
>racist
>egotistical
>conspiracy theorist
>building a bunker in Australia because he's afraid of nuclear war

Why would you ever give this freak money? Pirate this game.

>>383124715
>2,500 pledge
>0 of 4 taken
I almost feel bad for the one retard who gave them $250.

>>383125765
Can't tell if you are borderline illiterate or just don't know the word 'ensure'.

>>383125948
>because he's afraid of nuclear war
Maybe he's afraid of Helter Skelter. it would make sense, the guy's Manson level of crazy.

>>383125696
Because your eyes are attached to a sapien brain that can not comprehend pure form being plucked from the Platonic realm and given ontological reality by the neaderthal overman.

I've seen these threads a few times, but I never did much but skim 'em. What the fuck is with this neanderthal shit?

>>383124858
what the fuck

>>383125865
Seems like classes are based purely on stats, so certain races may not be able to start as certain classes but can probably class change once they have the required stats.

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>>383125962
>Sapes actually think* varient spellings of the same middle English word coined in an era before consistent word spellings have different meanings
*Note: Sapes are not acutally capable of abstract thought

>>383126743
see video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDyXSCd2Lp0

dev is a neanderthal here to deliver us from sapes

>>383126918
It is the year of our lord 2017. Just speak regular english you dopey cunt.

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12 HOURS

Knowing the developer I wouldn't be surprised if the question marks were actually supposed to be there and you're supposed the read the names of all the monsters in an inquisitive tone.

>sapes
It's not funny when you say it.

>12 hours until official release
>still no price
MARK MY WORDS: RELEASE WILL BE DELAYED FOR ANOTHER TWO DECADES

>>383128372
They are there to show that the party does not know the actual name of the creature. If you use the spell called Identify it will give you the actual name of the creature. ?Plant? changes to chlora-something I can't remember but it does change.

I'm genuinely concerned that it won't run properly on modern systems. I think this guy has literally made a 20 year old game.

>>383125179
>b-but 600 hours!
This argument is retarded. People put thousands of hours into free to play games and phone shit without spending a cent.

Etrian Odyssey has better graphics than this and that shit was made by pedophiles for a device weaker than modern digital watches.

What's this guy's excuse?

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I'm convinced if you met this fagget in real life he would be Adam Savage tier of repulsiveness.

What do you expect from someone who spends their spare time fapping in a bunker.

>>383128768
What's wrong with Adam Savage? Isn't that the mythbuster guy? I've only seen a couple of episodes of it.

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>>383128768

>>383128768
>make game with tedious micromanagement, painfully slow pacing and millions of stats, skills and items of which only 1% is viable
>call everyone who doesn't like it a casual

>>383128915
>that autism belt poach
Every time.

>>383128768

>mfw I buy his game on sale for a few bucks

Is it any fun though?

>>383129000
Eat crow, sape. The game will never be on sale past release until at least 8 years have passed.

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>IndieGoGo backers get the game later than people who didn't back the project

This is a sure sign way of how you handle crowdfunded projects with utmost care and, above all, respect.

>>383129018
Only if you are masochistic and consider reading Excel spreadsheets the kino of literature.

>>383129018
yeah it's pretty good judging from the old demo, very similar to wizardry 7 although it really is a one of a kind game

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This is going to be a forced meme isn't it?

>>383129113

Gonna buy it for a few dollarydoos after six months LMAO.

Look like shit
If I want to play DOS game I would turn on Nethack

>>383129113
>sape
It becomes unfunnier with every use. That word is probably taken into Reddit's official dictionary by now.

>>383128936

you have to play it 12hrs a day for 8 years for it to become really good. Trust me sape.

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What is this furry bullshit?

>>383128636
You can see the Aero glass transparency in the screenshots on the steam page. If the game works on Vista, it probably also works on 7, 8, and 10.

>>383129281
Never played Wizardry before, I see.

>>383128636
yeah it works just fine there was cursor bug on windows 10 but that should have been fixed by now

Just remember he said he's going to laugh at us when he makes $750,000 in 30 days from his game.

>>383129395
Been meaning to get into it but kings field comes first. Where would I start with wizardry?

>>383128269
I want to smell that pusy

>>383125483
Why are you acting like you have some sort of superiority or some kind of high ground here? You're anonymous, first off.

Secondly the game looks like shit for 40 dollars and any game that's been in development for an extended period of time has proven to be garbage 90% of the time.
"it's a hobby, ur still young, get degree, you had bad decisions in life" Are you trying to say he's not qualified to play vidya because he doesn't have a degree?

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I am for some reason drawn toward these threads. something about this game has peaked my interest.

someone be my Orpheus and save me from the daughters of Achelous!

>>383129526
>muh graphics
go home kid this a game for real men who hate graphics

>game is extremely slow
>600 hours
If the game speed was normal the game would be probably only 60 hours long.

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Neofag drama incoming

>>383129476
Wizardry 4.

>>383129630
just hold enter and combat/dialogues are pretty much instant

>>383129640
Is he literally /ourguy/?

>>383129476
If you don't mind wireframe graphics then the first one is a good place as any to start. It's not particularly complex and is easy to get into, as long as you don't mind drawing maps yourself. Wiz6-7-8 are all good places to start with as well.

Don't start with Wiz4. It's literally one of the hardest games ever made. You can beat it with persistence, but it's closer to playing Shin Megami Tensei than an actual Wizardry game. It's a fun game to try after you're more familiar with Wiz1-2-3.

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>>383129237
The Sape is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a casual, shitter, shovelware purchaser, pleb, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a Sape and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

>>383129818

Shut the fuck up.

>>383129818

Anon, he'll rape you in his bunker. You have no chance of fighting back he is 300lb of muscle, shh just take the rape. You'll get 3 meals a day and get to play his game for 12hrs, in 8 years he'll maybe let you walk outside for 5minutes once a week.

>>383129463
That was 5 years ago during the indiegogo fund raiser, not the Steam release.

>>383124858
>eating crow
Is this guy secretly charlie kelly?

>Wizardry 1 to 3 are difficult but doabloe
>4 is plain bullshit
>6-8 are excellent
What about Wizardry 5?

>>383129818
Yes

Jesus christ, this game looks like shit and it probably plays like a commodore game

I might pirate jist for memes, but it sounds like a horrible meme

>>383129924
It's only funny when Cleve says it.

are there towns?

>>383130028
Wiz4 isn't so bad when you know which monsters to summon. Then you're literally playing as the final boss of an RPG going around and sweeping the dungeon floors with low level shitters. Most of the danger comes from the faggot ghost who keeps following you.

>>383129476
>>383129896
for classic wizardry try the lylgamyn saga on ps1 its the first 3 games with updated graphics, automap etc. It's jap only but has options for english text for everything but the item descriptions
for the others i'd say start with 8 it's very accessible and doesn't require reading the manual at all

>>383130104
Yes, but what about 5? Nobody ever mentions Wizardry 5 when there are discussions about the series. Does it even exist?

In this game do I get to choose my party and will females have worse stats than males? And will there be fairys?

>40$

HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAH


....HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA


Dead on arrival

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>>383130091
It's an overdeveloped Wizardry 7.5 that has been one (ex-Wizardry dev) madman's hobby horse for the past 27+ years. Judge it by the genre and it'll be fine.

> I found my own product to be more satisfying than any of the Wizardry games and even better than the original Eye of the Beholder series.
instant buy

>>383125962
>Ohshitniggawhatareyoudoing

>>383130181

Exactly how can someone who is pseudo-smart be such a duh-duh brain.

>>383124715
So what's special about this thing, exactly?
>23 years of development
so it's got more depth than Dwarf Fortress or what?

>>383125948
Sounds like he's ourguy desu
You should go back to l eddit boy

>>383124715
>Grimoire, a dungeon crawler that has been in development for 23 years
It certainly looks like its 23 years old.

>>383125948
>muh transphobia
>muh raycisum
kys

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>23 years in development
>looks like shit

It's not even that its made of pixels, there's tons of good looking pixel games, cave story, undertale, terraria, all at least look pretty, but this game just looks like a mess.

This game will have less players than Battleborn.

>>383130162
Wizardry 5 is pretty boring. It's not bad, but it doesn't offer anything new or interesting that Wiz1-3 didn't already do. The reason it's not discussed is because it's middling game. It's right before Wiz6 which is where the series takes its first real evolutionary leap since the first game. I think most people just skip it.

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>>383130028
>8
>Excellent
NOW YOU'VE FUCKING DONE IT
REEEEEEEEEEE

>>383130545
That's because the game has been in development hell for too long.
>>383130584
I see these reposts in every single Grimoire thread. Be original you dumb autist.

>>383130104
I'm sorry, but no. No fucking no.

Do you remember that level with the fucking maze of invisible teleporters? Fuck that shit.

Fuck everything about that game. Fuck the ghost, fuck the traps, fuck the trap options, fuck the maps, fuck the endings, and fuck the best ending that is so obscure to get you could try for it for fucking ever.

Can't wait to pirate it, thanks for the shilling op

Looks like shit.

>>383125441
psh
nothin personal kid
just syain
you had a game developing for 23 years
and it was about to release
youd be shillin that shit
like
youd be whorin out your own mamas pussy to spread the word ya know kid?
wha u fink boyo

>>383130415
>>383130452
Watch the non-meme trailer for an idea of /comfy/ levels this game has to offer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1nMDgoDPMU

/comfy/ > muh graphics

>>383125948
It's incredibly transparent that you are either the dev himself or some friend he asked to shill his game for him.
You need to stop and fuck off.

>>383130452
>are of your current age
>are shit

Like pottery.

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>>383126948
> nonsense babbling, at least for me
> power point slideshow for most of the video
> narrator sounds like he's sitting in a giant metal tube
> described as the holy grail of rpg games
I'm almost 99% certain that's a quote from himself about his own game.

I don't get this at all. In all seriousness, will anyone of you buy this?
I'm really curious. What's the appeal here?

> game looks like absolute shit
> non-intuitive UI
> game can never be patched since dev plans to burn down his house
> apparently can't get far without manual
> combat looks tedious and unrewarding as fuck
> dev himself looks from his posts like an unlikable asshole
> character portraits seem like

I buy pixel- and indie games a lot and usually play the shit out of them.
But this? Wtf.

Am I the only one, who thinks that Cybermage was the best Bradley's game? I mean, it's definitely the most awesome one level-layout-wise, of all of his creations, and, well, it's definitely the most polished game he has ever created, with the least amount of retarded bullshit. And it's, like, one of the best 90's FPS games I have ever played - and I've played almost all of the notable ones (including Pathways into Darkness, PC and SAT Powerslave/Exhumed and Alien Breed 3D II - and not mentioning the obvious ones).

You know, I think that Bradley is a really good level-designer (although his favorite shtick is splicing several small maps with different expected gameplay process into one big flowing level) and a curious writer with his own style. But man, when he tries to mess with gameplay mechanics, it's, like, Ice-Pick Lodge level shit, the guy is just completely oblivious as to how it would play out IRL and not in his fantasies.

>>383130716
I approach Wiz4 like a roguelike. It's pretty unrealistic to assume you'll beat the game in your first try. Just try to get further each time and as you map the dungeon levels it becomes easier and easier. If you try to beat it in one try then yeah, it's going to be pretty infuriating.

>>383130915
I liked wizards and warriors desu kind of a weird game and very broken though

>>383130889
> character portraits seem like they're done by some unknown autistic deviantart furry/horsecock/whatnot

*

>>383130868
this looks like a more pimped version of that one windows screensaver,
where someone is running around in some kind of maze

>>383130104
No. It is that bad. It is exactly that bad. I don't think there has ever been a harder game that has gotten a commercial release.

The very first room

The minefield level

The fucking spinner level

The doublefucked level where half the fucking walls are one-way

The fucking COSMIC CUBE

The only way you could think Wiz 4 is "not that bad" is if you used a walkthrough the whole way through, and even then the game will find ways to screw you over.

>>383130889
It looks average at best, not worthy of a 40 bucks. It will probably get Mixed reviews and go on sale in less than 3 months.

>>383130915
Would you recommend it to someone who thinks Quake's and System Shock's level designs are the pinnacles of the genre?

>>383130889
It's not a pixel/indie retro game. It's literally a game that was developed 23+ years ago to the norms/standards of its contemporaries (Wizardry ~7).
Instead of releasing it then he's been revising and adding to it as a gentlemen hobbyist/madman ever since. It's not a modern game in a retro style, it's a vapourware game from the era that was never released (until now.)

This game will never go on sale, as Cleve's livelyhood doesn't depend on it. Cleve already made his fortune as an independent, contracted programmer, which also afforded him the ability to develop Grimoire in the first place.

>>383131554
yeah its funny the game has been around so long the style and genre has gone out of fashion and become come back as retro
A full 360

>>383131335
Didn't use a walkthrough. I just worked on Wiz4 over a long period of time, slowly chipping away at it until I beat the game. As I said before, knowing the maps is 80% of the battle in Wizardy. After that it becomes quite easy.

>>383124715
Not seen a game shilled this hard for a while. Maybe try /vr/ mr marketer, they prefer these kind of "games".

>>383131469
>It will probably get Mixed reviews and go on sale in less than 3 months.

Cleve said it will never go on sale after the initial release sale.

>>383131721
Implying anyone here is actually going to buy it and not just pirate it.

>>383131650
>Cleve already made his fortune as an independent, contracted programmer,

elaborate

no wonder this shit takes 20 years if he's doing other stuff on the side.

>>383131675
The genre never went out of style in Japan, at least. And I'd say that the genre is still out of fashion here in the west. Only real time dungeon crawlers came back, but turn based ones never really did. Then again the few RT blobbers that did get made have shit productions (Sword and Sorcery Underworld) or are just shit games with shit productions (Frayed Knights).

stop talking about grimoire outside the codex you fucking idiot

>>383131554
So, why now?
Why not 20 years ago?
The game does not try to look old, it apparently IS that old.
Why would you want that? I understand buying old games you played as a kid, but buying a 23 year old game you have zero relations with?
This is absolutely mental.

>>383131824
What about Legend of Grimrock?

>>383131824
>Then again the few RT blobbers that did get made have shit productions (Sword and Sorcery Underworld) or are just shit games with shit productions (Frayed Knights).

Meant to say TB not RT.

>>383124715
If they worked on it for 23 years why does it still look like shit?

>>383131883
Yeah, like I said, despite my goof up. Real Time blobbers like Grimrock did a comeback. Turn Based ones, not so much. But even Grimrock didn't stick around for long. The 2nd one sold poorly. The game was only a meme and that was because it was an indie game that didn't look like a newgrounds flash game. Game sold entirely on its visuals.

>>383131921
It's made by the last neanderthal on earth.

>>383131824
japan only cares about classic wizardry though not the others
>>383131883
grimrock is a modern version of dungeon master completely different from wizardry even if they look similar

>>383131857
. . .you stupid son?
shits been being worked on for 23 fucking years
it wasnt released back then to play

if you like wizardry style games and others like that
in that style
you might like this shit

if not
who the fuck cares if not?

bitches gonna be slammin their pussies down on this shit when it comes out instead of your shit

>>383131921
It's only one person who worked on the game, anon.

Wow!

This looks FUCKING amaaaazing!

What are the games for true neandertal to play while waiting for Grimoire?
And dont post your sap low IQ shit

>>383124715
If I see a mountain in the distance can I climb it?

>>383131883
Grimrock is the future

>>383132074
filtered

>>383124715
I would say it's more like it was in development 23 years ago not it was in development for 23 years. No one spent 23 years on this thing.

>>383124858
Holy fuck I've never seen a dude so proud of his own game before wtf and it looks like ass too :/

>>383131547
It's definitely on par (of Quake I adore Romero's and Peterson's levels and SystemShock1 is good although too "loopy" for my taste, and with some amount of absolute shit maps - "Level 3", for example, "Reactor" and "Level 7" to the lesser extent). I advise you to play hard difficulty only, keyboard only. Keyboard layout is going to be a bit of an issue. I used cursor keys for forward-backward-turns, but some keys in WASD are unassignable, so, for the left hand you'll need to use a position like FXCV or something (like, X and V for strafes, F for jumps, C for crouches, D and G for look down|up that sort of thing). Anyway, the point is finding a suitable "shifted WASD" for the left hand, after you do it, it's a breeze.
Also, the tutorial level is utter bullshit, I advise you to jump right into the game, and to endure through the first level (it's okay, but what comes next is much better).

Also, Powerslave PC is quite good (the European version named Exhumed is slightly patched, compared to USA one, Powerslave) level-design-wise, very intricate, very big levels (although the progression for the most part is quite linear), although the shooting mechanics is very meh. I do recommend checking it out as well, although Cybermage is DEFINITELY a better game both overall and level-design-wise.

>>383132074

kys

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>>383128768

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>>383132028
This was made by one person as well.
It's probably also more fun.
And it's not 40$ either.

You know, elitists can ogle at their spreadsheet simulators all they want but at the end of the day - if the gameplay doesn't feel fluid and right - it's all unnecessary bloat.

And considering that a lot of advancements in the dungeon crawler genre were made for a certain reason (e.g. technological advancement - the entire grid movement thing is nothing but a limitation of earlier hardware/memory) there's no real reason for these "oldskool" features to exist other than nostalgia.

But nostalgia doesn't carry over to any audience that hasn't experienced the original games.

Especially not at 40$.

This is literally "Stuck in the past: The Game"
No matter how much RPGCodex is shilling it on here.

>>383132309
He's threatened to sue the state of California for impeding the development of Grimoire with its degeneracy, particularly the growing rate of trans-sexuals

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>>383132018
now this is a dev post if i ever seen one lol

sorry man. the game will ultimately be forgotten.
might be a fresh meme for a couple of months, but after that...
even hardcore fans will eventually drop it for something less tedious.

>>383128768
Neanderthals were short with stubby legs tho.

>>383128660
he literally claims to be a caveman

>>383132458
>now this is a dev post if i ever seen one lol

>he thinks that's cleve

Nah... you would certainly be able to tell when its cleve. And that's not cleve.

>>383132413
The difference here is that Grimoire is made by one person who is a programmer. Ghost of a Tail is made by an artist/animator who used to work for Disney, and he used contractors to work on the game code while he worked the visuals as well as some programming. And no, Ghost of a Tail wasn't that fun, which is why he scrapped the whole game and started over.

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> Enhancements Planned During Next Six Months
> Increase screen resolution to 1024x768 and viewport size to 720x600 (*Done!*)
I don't even know where to begin.

Yeah no, I'm out. Cool thread OP.
This shit will be going down and the guy will someday die alone in his fapbunker.
1 month after release everyone and their dog on here will go "literally what" when asked about Grimoire.
Seen it times and times before.

>>383132413
It's not a game for you, what are you even doing in this thread?

>>383132413
>This is literally "Stuck in the past: The Game"

for everyone who just joined:
this is the tl;dr of this thread

>>383125952
don't it was probably his mother

>>383124858
>4% of $250,000
lol

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>There was a movie about Cleve

>>383133023
he did nothing wrong desu

>>383129640
>>383128768
>>383125589

I am liking this guy, he is a crazy dude.

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wat

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Question!

Why should I play this when Etrian Odyssey exists and is portable?

>>383125589
grimwah

>>383133169
because the EO games are tripe

>>383130335
nothing, it's some autist's sperg project that's undoubtedly going to flop because it looks like dogshit, it controls like it's the first time he's ever seen a mouse, and the level designs are undoubtedly going to be full of dipshit memes and gotchas because this guy is a fucking clown.

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>>383133140
> asked "if it was done?" every day
> "if it was done?"

not wanting to sound autistic, but a game this great as he claims it to be should at least have proper grammar and shit, right?

sounds like the "does spider have pusspuss" guy

>>383133140
That's kind of sad...

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>>383125589

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>>383132715
>scrapped the whole game and started over

What?

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I'M GOING TO BE RICH WITH THIS GAME HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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B-U-Y / M-Y / G-A-M-E

>>383129362
> testing your game on vista
holy shit this is destined to fail

>>383131839
The incline has begun and there is nothing you can do to stop it. Grimoireposting on /v/ prompted me to buy half a dozen crpgs during the steam sale, and over the past two days I've begun dropping sape in casual conversation with family and friends.

It always saddens me to see meek little anonymous homo sapiens trying to deny the sheer greatness of the race-uplifting achievement that is Grimoire, a single act of Creation to let the wise Neanderthal reclaim the world in a pandemonium of incline so sublime your consciousness is going to melt under the meteor-like impact of that release. Yes, it took quite some time to develop, just like the planet Earth took some time to develop, only to get ridiculed by reptilians and assorted rabble. Let me tell you this, shitsticks - game's over. Over and out. You won't believe how much blood does an ordinary anus hold after the Neanderthal lance takes a short break from ravaging it mercilessly. You've many times called Grimoire some stupid vapourware from the Bush era, well guess what, George W. ain't here no more but Grimoire sure is. You call Cleve a madman, this Harbinger of Incline you dare mock on daily basis, but your vulture-like crowing does not penetrate the heavenly air of gentlemanly entertainment, not one bit. Cleve will trample you all like the cosmos-dwelling turtle aeons old He is, and His name shall reverb all over the known galaxy and many neighbouring ones for all reptilians to recognise His greatness.

Listen to me, you anonymous punks. I don't know what puny homo sapiens gods you pray to but believe me this - no prayers shall spare you from the righteous wrath of the Demiurge of Gaming, don't count on it kids. I expect you melonhead hordes to scoff and shake your heads in disbelief but that's ok, that's to be expected, so I expected it, just as I expect the worldwide wave of crucifixions as true fans of video games who've pre-ordered Grimoire and thus attained knowledge unknown to this sinful world drag you out of your basements and without mercy and with impunity unheard of before massacre whatever remains of you they shall find in your hovels after the act of Cleve's releasing Grimoire itself makes your blood vessels burst violently to your parents chag

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>>383132715
there have been better games made by single programmers in less time. cave story and hakoniwa explorer, for instance.

>>383133618
> c&p that fits on any video game title and dev name
1/10 effort for probably using ctrl+h

Oh look, another dungeon crawler following Wizardry 7's formula and deciding to completely ignore everything Wiz8 brought to the table.

>>383132715
Lionell coded most of the stuff himself though.
I know that he wrote the entire playercontroller himself and that he has a good grasp of HLSL (shader language used by unity).
It's true that he was originally an artist. But he's a legit programmer these days as well.

> And no, Ghost of a Tail wasn't that fun, which is why he scrapped the whole game and started over.

Which was way before the EA release.
And it still didn't take him 20 years.


But either way, if that example isn't sufficient take other games. Dust: An Elysian Tale was done by one guy.
Hell, considering the artistic level we are talking about here, you could even take Stardew Valley as a comparison.

These are all well designed games and despite the fact that some of them have a nostalgia aspect, they all took reasonable changes to their respective genres into account. Without any sense of the snobish elitism Cleve is showing, they acknowledge that other designers have thought about problems before and came up with good solutions.

The lack of understanding for the technological and (hand-in-hand) design-wise advancement would absolutely break Grimoire's neck if it wasn't for Cleve's eccentric personality giving the game free PR.

>>383132484
That's just anti-neanderthal propaganda pushed by hard line saps.

>>383133737
name one other game that copies wizardry 7's formula

>>383133169
Nice retard logic. Why play anything else ever again when you can just keep replaying EO? Hurr.

>>383133530

No its more like this

I'm going to be mega wealthy rich you crow eating suckers of Neanderthal testicles, you see when you are a 6foot man of 300lb of muscles and 1800cc brain you can do superhuman feats of wonder. Though you sapes will never ever be on my level on a genetic scale you literal subhumans can't compete with my natural born blessed abilities i will reserve a dinner at the most prestigious restaurant and invite all you sape untermeschen epsilon invalids to be the proud guests of my banquet you will feast on mouth watering horderves of stupidity until you reach the main course of CROW you lowest common denominator roll a 6 so you don't kill yourself.

My name is Cleveland Mark Blakemore and you are lower than a snake's belly you crow eating scum sape.

I'm out, time to retire the bunker of glory where i shall play Grimoire for another 12 beautiful hours, so long you vitamin deficiency chicken necked saped brained sub individuals.

>>383133432
GoaT started out as an RPG. He scrapped that and what he had done when he realized that it wasn't very good/fun and then turned the game into a stealth game with less mechanics.

>>383132803
>it's not a game for you

I literally bought Eye of the Beholder two weeks ago and I'm having a blast.

But I wouldn't pay 40$ for it or spend 600 hours playing it because I'm not fucking retarded.

It has its place and it's a nice game. But "oldskool" just for its own sake is horseshit.

>>383134053
nothing wrong with that if the end product is good

>>383134081
it wasn't oldschool when he started development

>>383133704
>There has been games with better aesthetic than Grimoire by single programmer in less time.
fix'd

Your examples are horrible since they are all completely different genre. At least compare it to something similar to its kin like Demise:Ascension or some shit. Seriously if you want to have a hate boner for this game at least make it a logical hate boner.

>>383124715
>One obsessed autist's project is older than 99% of /v/
Really boggles my noggle

>>383134031
Dude I seriously thought for a second you are him.

Are you really him?

>>383134081
t. sub 1800cc brain

>>383134149
Never said it was wrong. Just that it's something that happened. It's disappointing for people like me who still hope for a Redwall / Mouse Guard RPG, but it is what it is. One guy can only do so much as he quickly realized.

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Gameplays here

>23 years
>ends up looking like shit

>>383134272
Coincidentally, most of nu-/v/ also hate it. Really stir the Neanderthal's pot.

>>383130868
the wood in the beginning looks comfy as fuck

I seriously hope a lot of the game happens outside. Only dungeons is boring.

Also are there towns? Is it confirmed that they exist?

We Bob's Game 2.0 now.

>>383133884
Are you serious right now? Pretty much every dungeon crawler from Japan has been aping Wizardry 7 for the last 15 years. Wizardry itself continues to live on in there and has a dozen of entries which again follow 7's design instead of 8. Of course I can't give you Western examples because the genre is barely even alive in the West after the 90s.

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>>383134307

Yes, its me you braindead sape

This looks like Wizardry for turboautists.

>>383134465
>Pretty much every dungeon crawler from Japan has been aping Wizardry 7 for the last 15 years

Wrong. They are all aping Wiz1-5.

>>383134465
japan copies the classic wizardry formula
you obviously have not played 7 as the whole dark savant saga is a completely different beast

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>>383128548
>They are there to show that the party does not know the actual name of the creature. If you use the spell called Identify it will give you the actual name of the creature. ?Plant? changes to chlora-something
Kek. And there was this cocksucker yesterday who shat on the game through the entirety of a 500 posts thread that the question marks were proof that Cleve couldn't program for shit

Turns out it WAS A FEATURE ALL ALONG!

>>383134602
The ?phallic item? is a carry over from Wizardry. They have the same system as Grimoire. Fun to watch the normies shit on things they don't understand.

>>383134574
Not really, it's just "Classic Wizardry meets King's Quest" (and so is Grimoire). Bradley should've made an adventure game, that's all.

>>383130104
I haven't played it so I'm not going to say you're right or wrong, but what would you say is a very difficult game?

>>383134574
And Wiz8 is "Jagged Alliance guys trying to remake Wiz7 with non-retarded game mechanics".

>>383132413
the mouse is cute but
>walking simulator

>>383133704
None were better shitposters than Cleve though. Grimoireposting has already given me dozens of hours of entertainment over the past week (only became aware of it through /v/ then) and the game isn't even out yet. I'll add those to the 600 hours.

>>383134192
It was if you really think about it.
The concept of blobbers was already advancing away from grid based movement in 1994.

Dungeon Crawling had changed already
Ultima Underworld was when now? 1992?
Arena just released.
Daggerfall only came relatively shortly after.
Might and Magic 5 was the last with grid movement as well (till legacy which tried to cash in on nostalgia and was punished for it).

And then you had experimental dungeon crawling concepts like System Shock, which was a well crafted, handmade experience that really pushed the boundaries of what could be done (which is the reason why it's still copied).

So what lessons did Cleve take away from all of this?
That those advancements are all shit and the stuff he played in his youth is absolutely superior?

I'm not saying that design hasn't become stagnant with the years, but thinking that nothing could improve beyond cryptic, clunky features from the 80s is almost laughable.

>>383134329
good argument

>>383134761
just watch this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQz_i6chNgY

>in development for 23 years
and not once during this time did he say "people might need more than 256 colors"?

CRO-FAGNONS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEE

I've never played this game before but all the bullshit around it is really making me want to give it a shot when it comes out. I might pirate it, who knows, 40 bucks is a lot out of my pocket right now.

>>383125948

I don't even play these faggoty games but you just sold me on it. Thanks, he sounds based

>>383135036
Simple unevolved sape eyes can't see more than 256 colors.

I'm the developer of Grimoire.

Ask me anything, but please be polite.

>>383134907
>And then you had experimental dungeon crawling concepts like System Shock
And it wasn't even the first game to combine dungeon crawling way of level-designing with first-person shooting. Before it were, at the very least, Catacomb 3D (although it could be completed in hour or two) and Pathways into Darkness (which is LEAGUES ahead of System Shock in terms of shooting mechanics). And after SS, there were Cybermage and HeXen 1, which, again, wiped the floor with SS1 when it came to blasting dudes to the face.

>>383125948
>>>/lgbt/

kys r edditor

>>383134761
For me anything that challenges twitch reflexes or skill. Games like Devil May Cry or God Hand are extremely difficult and it's possible that you might never get good at it even if you persist. A game like Wizardry 4, while difficult, can be beaten by anyone as long as they don't give up.

>>383124715
is there romance?i might play it if there is.

Where are the toddposting-esque edits?

>>383135143
Go to bed Robert Sirotek. You're not fooling anyone.

>>383135143
towns?

>>383135323
>romance

Josh Sawyer i-it's you?

>>383134907
>System Shock, which was a well crafted, handmade experience that really pushed the boundaries of what could be done (which is the reason why it's still copied).
Also, what exactly did it push? Almost all the mechanics it featured have already been featured in Ultima Underworld (which - yes - was revolutionary), other than the narrative gimmick with the audiologs?
I'd argue that System Shock is remembered much more as a "game that is a gesture at the same time", much like, say, Shadow of the Colossus. Not because it was oh so innovative a game.

>>383135194
You're trying way too hard to fit in. Australian /v/ hours are the worst.

Looks like shit

>>383134907
Grid movement allows a specifically tailored game. If it's executed properly then it's limitations can actually become its strength. Something the sapes will never understand

>>383134882
By that metric, Battleborn has the best ratio of amusement by cost

>>383135514
In other words, in my opinion, it's remembered primarily as "THE 'Immersive Sim' manifesto".

>>383124715
There's NO WAY this can be not shit. Do you fags not remember duke nukem forever?

>>383129526
Pff, look at this child and laugh.

that guy sounds like the essence of the RPGCodex forums.

>>383134882
Have you been educated on the penisaurus yet?

>backers won't get their keys on release

AHAHAHAHA WHAT

>>383135514
>Also, what exactly did it push

It certainly pushed approachable gameplay complexity in the action genre.

Or the incorporation of fluid and well made action elements into an RPG framework. UU still had trouble with that.

Depends on the point of view.

Also different game modes like the cyber space element were pretty rare back in the day.

>>383135627
Then it shouldn't sell itself as revolutionary.
It's just wizardry with a lot of content.

>>383135819
Can't make more money on those who have already paid. Let this serve as a cautionary tale on the dangers of crowdfunding.

>>383130868
>that hideous western fantasy aesthetic
how can anyone like this in a post-JRPG world?

>>383135675
I dunno, in superdemo, the "King's Quest" part, where you are trying to apply MacGuffins to these or those suspicious places, running around, backtracking, so on, is pretty good. The MacGuffins themselves look interesting, they do interesting things, the puzzle aspect is, in general, pretty good, it's easy to get hooked on it. The battle mechanics in superdemo were really broken though, and, well, the leveling system can obviously be exploited to no end through skill farming.

>>383124858
>'Cept
>'bro

Where do I pirate tho?

>>383135957
are you ignorant or just stupid?

>>383135627
That may be true. But let me give you a funny list.

>First person party based dungeon crawlers without tile movelemt
Might&Magic 6,7,8,9, Wizardry 8

>First person party based dungeon crawlers with tile movelemt
Literally every single other game in the genre.

And there is one and only reason for this situation: the latter is easier to make. Don't delude yurself it's anything else.

GUYS IT'S FINALLY OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!
IT'S FINALLY OUT!!! IT LEAKED AND WAS CRACKED

HE DID IT, THE FUCKER REALLY RELEASED THE FULL GAME

https://www.skirowreloaded.com/grimoire-v-1.0.5-cracked-codex/

>>383135874
>It certainly pushed approachable gameplay complexity in the action genre.
It wasn't really the "action genre" though, was it? It was just, basically, a slightly actionized Ultima Underworld In Space (without the majority of dice rolls and without dialogue system).
>Or the incorporation of fluid and well made action elements into an RPG framework.
As I said earlier, Pathways into Darkness wipes the floor with System Shock 1, as a shooter game. So do HeXen and Cybermage (both of which were already being developed by the time floppy version of System Shock was released).

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>>383130868
;_;

>>383124858
Hell fucking yes

I love people that are this fucking cocky, if his game is GOAT it will truely be the greatest shit to witness

If it fucking sucks donkey ass it will be the greatest JUST of all time and it will be glorious to see him being shat on

>>383128768
Holy shit, this guy is nuts. It's like he's trying to validate his whole life by saying his game is good.

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>>383130868
>this UI

>>383124715

Honestly my only issue is the visuals. I'm not against 2D or pixel, don't get me wrong, but the artist here had no sense of style. You can make your art in any way you like, but it needs a style that holds up. The style here doesn't even look retro, it just looks bad. It even looks bad compared to its contemporaries of its time. Take Wizardry 7, which had beautiful 2D pixel art compared to this flat lifeless blur of visuals.

2D pixel art has come far enough that this should have been touched up at some point.

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>>383136256

>>383136364
I can't blame him on that front. If I spent two decades on a game and I allowed myself to think it was shit I'd just end it right there.

>>383136342
Nigga died before he could play the game he wanted. I wish that fate upon no man of /v/.

So is that 20 years of an after work hobby project, or 20 years of fulltime game dev effort funded by mommy's paycheck?

>>383130868
>that bombastic music constantly changing
>that UI
>the windows screen saver map textures
>those repetitive soundbites
>The name of the game is plastered above the text screen to remind you that you're playing a videogame.

>>383136935
i bet that anon who died before MGS 5 is now one of the smugest faggots in hell

>>383128768
Well I respect the guy for not going along with the culture of offering high discounts for games. That is only appropriate for games made by companies who already have a lot of capital and a wide audience, it's not okay to expect small time and niche developers to be able to afford to offer the same kind of discounts for the games they make, they are put at a huge disadvantage.

>>383136935
There'll have been a ton of people who died still waiting desperately for Duke Nukem Forever

>>383128850
massive SJW cuck. Jamie's cool though.

>>383134915
>mfw thanks to that video I found out there was a Wizardry 1 OVA. It's pretty badass.

>>383124715
>those trees
lmao wtf

>>383136638
check out The Quest on steam
literally this game but better

>>383137396
Source? I've only seen Adam in mythbusters and he seemed like a cool dude.

>>383137396
> SJW cuck

This isn't /pol/. Fuck off back to your containment board you ape.

>>383124715
Torrent edition when?

>>383138323

>>>/r eddit/

>>383138126
The Quest isn't a blobber, it's like grid based Elder Scrolls but more shallow

>>383138323
Ape > Sape

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It's .. Batman?

>>383138498
what's a blobber?

>>383135679
ok I laughed at you what now?

>>383138498
the quest is like a 1 man m&m game
simple but pretty good
>>383138561
rpg where your party moves in a group or blob usually first person

>>383138561
A "first person" game where you have a party moving as one entity, rather than just one player character.

>>383133118
yeah he did , he let others in his bunker

>>383137218
Those poor sods.

>>383130889
This genre has a huge cult following, graphics don't matter shit. Go play Legend of Grimrock or something and if you don't like that, piss off.

>>383132484
Really? My biology books in high school said that neanderthals where slightly taller than sapiens on average.

>>383134907
>Believes in objective design improvement

>>383138578
I dunno, join me cause I'm still laughing at you

>>383139182

Neanderthals were dwarves, basically.

>>383139383
Absolutely. If you think something Red Alert is better designed than Supcom, you're either deluded or a liar.

>>383130584
why don't those girls have colored hair and the attitude of a cartoon character?

>>383139529
But OpenRA>SupCom

>>383139529
Wtf are you seriously saying Supcom > Red Alert?
Lol fuck off

So Grimrock did pretty well for an indie game, I think mostly because of its presentation and puzzles, and these Grimoire threads are filled with nostalgia for classic DRPGs...

Why hasn't anyone tried to make a new DRPG with 2017 graphics, full animations, voice-acting, and actual roleplaying decisions ala Witcher 3?

>it's generally accepted that Neanderthals might have been smarter than sapiens
>absolute heresy to even suggest there being a difference in IQs of modern human races
really makes your little grey cells work

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That Erasmus eye dude looks so fucking cool, is eye man a playable race?
Game itself looks bad

>>383140096
and Caucasians mixed with Neanderthals

>>383124715
9 hours lads. Who is going to buy it and give early impressions?

>>383139993
Because the market for this kind of game doesn't justify the investment, I'm guessing. Even the one-hit wonder like Grimrock didn't break 1 million last time I checked, and that game was two fiddy on many sales or even less in bundles.

What has made Australians superior at shitposting?

>>383140147
That's a race you can get in your party, along with many flavors of furbait, "vamphyrs," and all the elves you want.

>>383140620
Background radiation from their uranium mines and the toxic mist emanating from their native wildlife.

>>383140226
That's an expensive thing to shitpost with.

>>383140909
Maybe if you're not a wageslave.

>>383131961
>poorly
First one sold ~ 974,523,
second one ~376,777.
That is not poorly, for niche game like that it's actually fucking good.
Of course shame that the superior second game did not have the same surprise hit value to boost.

I doubt that this shit will get on torrent within the next 3 months.

People who would seriously buy that shit, would never leak it.

People who would be willing to leak or crack it would never buy it for 40 fucking dollars.

Don't get your hopes up.

Is this a marketing strategy?

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>>383140147
Yeah, but that is the only portrait for this race. Female is the same, just with tunic color-swapped to green.

>>383141514
Don't think so. Most of us are just here to shitpost and maybe wait for torrent/mega.

>>383141514
This game is unshillable, but contains legendary levels of beautiful autism.

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TEN HOURS LEFT FOR THE GREATEST RPG OF ALL TIME TO RELEASE AND USHER IN A NEW AGE UPON VIDYA

THIS IS NOT MY OPINION, IT'S A PROVABLE FACT

READ AND WEEP

>>383141385
>People who would be willing to leak or crack it would never buy it for 40 fucking dollars.

They can refund it. They wouldn't even have to load up the game once to crack it, let alone play above refund limit. There is already a guy on the Codex who put together a character trainer out of spite.

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Reminder to play Might and Magic once grimoire comes out and ends up being a piece of shit.

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>>383134915
>" It is equally unforgiving of mistakes and bad luck as its predecessor trilogy, but unlike the trilogy, there are no experience points for defeating enemies, and therefore no reward for surviving difficult battles, or opportunities to grow stronger at the player's pace. The only way a player may grow stronger is to fight their way through the current level, and find a pentagram on the next level, no matter how overwhelmingly difficult the foes on the current level may be. Some of these foes include ninjas capable of killing Werdna instantly with a critical hit, mages with area-effect spells that can wipe out entire parties of monsters, thieves who can steal items that are critical to completing the game, and clerics capable of resurrecting Werdna's fallen adversaries."

Jesus fuck

>>383142262
I think about it every few months, but their length puts me off.

I realized something very important. Sirotek brothers were in charge of Sir-Tech company. So I realized that's why it's called Sir-Tech = Sirotek. This is pretty important realization. Please screenshot my post and spread it forward.

>>383124858
>an arrogant cunt actually delivers a product
Flop or Not this guy is the man

I think this might be the game to usurp Gothic 2. The tingly feeling in my loin confirms it.

>>383142262
I love world maps like this

>>383142262
Which version should I start with?

>>383142487
https://lparchive.org/Wizardry-IV
READ NIGGA READ
Look at the game's first fucking puzzle

>>383142576
"delivers"

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>>383141668

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>>383142607
Look upon this and weep.

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>>383142651
Go to the /vr/ HoMM general and grab them all. Start with 3 if you want classic grid based RPG and 6 if you want free movement and massive dungeons.

>>383142748
Looks fine. 6 has the most content by far of all the games anyways and a great manual.

>>383142902
I have 6 installed but haven't bothered playing. Lol I have been playing Zeruda BOTW.

I don't get these threads. Is it all just ironic shitposting making fun of the dev or is it actually shilling this goddam hard

>>383143117
>what is a conversation

>>383142665
Dear god. That shit is the creation of a mad god that hates your very being. I grew up with Ultima and heard that Wizardry was hard. I didn't expect that the game wants to mentally kill you.

>>383142902
Why not 1?

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>There will never be another game lime M&M6 or Wiz8
I love the tile-based ones too, but they're everywhere. This is an itch unscratched for 15 years now.

>>383143230
Harder for newbies to get into because no automap. Perfectly playable though.

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Why does the map look so shit?

Looks like a level selection screen instead of a real map. Maybe he wanted to make it vague and will present the real map in the game.

>>383143117
>most autistic game released in decades
>created by a lone autist in a fallout shelter over the course of 23 years

why not talk about it?

>>383143696
Death face mountain seems like a pretty chill place.

>>383143384
you are now reminded that Ubisoft owns the HoMM franchise and wants nothing to do with Enroth

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>>383142550
They're not that bad I would play them after work before winding dowm. The series is more about exploration than hardcore dungeon crawling.

>>383143117
I'm here to funpost. If the game gets cracked, I'll probably play it for one hour to see how shit it is. Can't wait for the shitstorm when it actually comes out. 9 hours and 30 minutes left.

>>383143976
I played the first one, but it took me ages to finish. It wasn't really a game that you could take a break from, at least I found it really hard to continue after a month long break.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the experience. I just don't know if I can do it again. Having to savescum to keep my party from succumbing to old age took a toll on my mental stability.

>>383144380
rest of the series aside from maybe 2 is easy

>>383144380
>Having to savescum to keep my party from succumbing to old age
Is this a thing in every magic game?

>>383143696
Looks like the map for Way of the Samurai

>>383141157
376,777 isn't much when most of those copies came from bundles where the game cost $1. The developers said it was a financial disaster and that's why they dissolved the company, although most of the same people went on to work on a new game called Druid Stone.

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Give me one fucking reason why I shouldn't just get Wizardry 7 for likea fiver instead of this.

>>383144942
No they didn't, stop believing rumors.

>>383145089
The Jap Wiz remakes are faithful, just with better production values.

>>383144942
>The developers said it was a financial disaster and that's why they dissolved the company
they never said that and the company is still around
the druid game is different people different company (but with the programmer of almost human)

>>383124715
hes pushing physical copies so its harder to return, and hyping this shit up in a manic way so people just try it out. even if it sucks he'll make the money. only buy this in digital to test it and get your refund when you realize this should have stayed in the 90s

>>383145373
>pushing physical copies
No, actually. The only physical copies are for backers.

>>383125441
its a scam boyo

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>>383125948
great post, leaf

>>383124715
This guy is fucking hilarious but I'ma pirate this on principle. If he wants to make a game from 27 years ago I'll treat it like a game from 27 years ago.

What's the appeal of blobbers? I feel like it would just be stressful having to sort through multiple party members to optimize shit every time you pick up any loot or level up or do pretty much everything

>>383145462
broski, backing it is paying for it in advance and then some, look at how hard he tries to convince the forum crowd that they'll be miserable without the physical copies. dude wants a quick buck. put one of my nuts in your mouth and let it dissolve like a nice chocolate

>>383145812
>If he wants to make a game from 27 years ago I'll treat it like a game from 27 years ago.
You're going to ask your friend to make a copy of his floppy?

>>383146078
He isn't selling any more physical copies at this point.

>>383146129
Does the game even fit on a floppy? Would you need a box of them?

>>383145812

Guy probably owns 5 houses + 2 holiday homes and 6 underground bunkers.

Do you actually think he cares you subhuman sape.

One simply does not make a game for 23+ years and expect it not to get pirated. I think this 300lb pound Neanderthal DNA will simply laugh at you and belittle your pitiful existence and tell you to eat crow.

>>383146209
Nice meme but that's fine, I'm just following tradition