Why was Persona 4 so much better?

>>382694106

Rain = Maximum comfiness.

inb4 moved to /vg/

>>382694106
Better than what? It's better than 1 and 5 but not 2 and 3.

How can anyone think this? 3 is a better story, and 5 has better atmosphere. Tokyo > inaba.

>>382694106
4 has better characters, a more personal story, and a better antagonist. 4's atmosphere is also better if you enjoy small town more than city

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>>382694620
>5 has better atmosphere
I just don't understand how you can think this.

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[Unsolicited opinions on 2 not being a Persona Game???]

I tired to play 4 but didn't make it to the first real dunegon, there was a whole lot of plot happening first and it wasn't really interesting to me. 5's plot had alot of issues but still managed to be interesting from the get go, you're in the first dungeon before you're first day of school also and the Palaces are pretty cool.

>>382694868
>and a better antagonist.
lmfao

>>382694583
But it's worse than 5 and better than 3.

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>>382696504
>implying any persona villian is better than adachi

>>382694620
5 had no atmosphere and Tokyo is such a generic setting

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>>382696857
>imblygn

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>>382696857
>implying

Wrong

>>382694106
Probably because the villain personified everyone on /v/

and it was much more simple/predictable, making it easy for the retarded minds of /v/ to grasp

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>>382697142
>generic big bad just like every other persona game final final boss
>people like him just because he's cocky
>>382697261
>literal who CEO who is tricked by the actual big bad
>people like him just because he's cocky
Adachi is cocky, but he is also relateable and has far more going for him in terms of the narrative with you and the team

>>382697673

This

Also reminder that Adachi was a wild card that never was, it's unfortunate he was so unwilling to open up to people, he's far deeper than one might see on the surface, especially if you've played Ultimax

>>382697673
>generic big bad
>actually won
>won because people help him do it by meme his prophecy and the whiole thing with Jun just like he said they would

Nyarly actually prove himself unlike other villains and Phil has to literally cheat like the salty loser he is

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3 > 5 > 2 > 4 > 1

>>382697420
Adachi was far less predictable than Akechi, what are you going on about?

Persona 4 shook up things far more than P5 story wise.

>>382698471
4>3>5>2>1

>>382694106
It wasn't? What kind of retard actually think Persona 4 is the best one?

>>382697420
Oh yeah because the Phantom Thieves story was such a complex and deep one anon

>>382698278
Just because he "won" doesn't necessarily make him a great villain. If you wanted to argue a better villian, Jun is far more interesting in how he relates to the party and the overarching story. If anything Nyarly is just a more fleshed out Izanami, but that isn't really saying much since all he does is show up and laugh at you in the story till the end. I don't see how this is better than someone like Adachi who has actual meaning to your party, pulls off a nice twist, and shows actual depth to his character if you did his social link

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>>382694106
more colors and best Ace defective

1>3>2>5>4
I'm tired of you fucking retards judging games you've never played. 1 isn't bad by any means.

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To be quite honest I'm just so tired of watching Atlas milk Persona 4's dick that I don't even remember what I liked about it in the first place, I'm so bored of its main cast that anything else looks better really. It's still good but I found Persona 3 to be a bit more of an enjoyable experience

>>382699505
I don't understand how can people prefer a game that is literally archaic and unpolished compared to every other game in the series, thats like saying "Tekken 1 is better than Tekken 7"

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Philemon's return when?

>>382699505
I really enjoyed what I played of 1 but when I played on the Playstation, the load time was awful. Was this fixed on the PSP port? I got it as a gift, but never got around to playing.

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>>382699778
You've never fucking played it.
Gameplay-wise its the best
Aesthetic-wise its the best
Persona design is the best in the series
Has the second best plot
No stupid social link bullshit

>>382699778
Not him, but that's not a fair comparison. 1 has vastly different systems and story structure compared to 3 onward. If you prefer that more rigorous dungeon crawling and combat structure, 1 and the 2's are your only option among persona since 3 onward doesn't offer much. 1 is my second favorite behind 4, it's interesting and despite being dated is plenty of fun

it has a cute reverse trap

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>>382694106
It wasn't better though.

>>382699806
He's been in every game you fucking dumbass.

>>382700352

except 5.

the butterfly was lavenza

>>382700352
I mean his proper masked form.

>>382700683
The Butterfly IS his proper/true form, at least more so than the guy in a butterfly mask.

>>382700807
I guess, I just found his more human like form to be interesting.

>>382694106
Adachi is actually somewhat of a surprise because all the clues leading to him could just as easily be applied to Dojima. In fact, if you try to conclude that Dojima is suspicious, the game tells you that he had plenty of opportunity and no solid alibi. He also clearly has a lot of pent-up rage over not being able to find his wife's killer, so it's not far-fetched to think he may have gone off the deep end at some point in his career after discovering TV magic. Plus, he leaves Nanako home all alone when the killer's letter says that someone close to Yu will be targeted. Not to mention that on the surface, he is far more competent and clever than the bumbling doofus Adachi pretends to be.

Meanwhile in P5:
>Enter Goro Adach- I mean Akechi, a young ace detective who is supposed to be a suave, smooth-talking pretty-boy that all the ladies swoon over
>...except he comes off as a creepy weirdo the entire game, antagonizing the Phantom Thieves for no particularly good reason and stalking Joker way before he has any solid leads on him
How could anyone think he wouldn't be the one who ends up betraying you?

>>382701856
I think the game pretty blatantly tells you it's Akechi but the real interesting part is the twist that the team knew that already and they tricked him

>>382702043
That's true I suppose. I just think they really dropped the ball with Akechi as a character. Nevermind the fact that he's a young detective investigating the same crimes as the mystery gang, and that his name is two letters away from Adachi. Ultimately he and the Thieves had the same goal, to bring down Shido, and he completely throws that opportunity away and gets himself killed because daddy issues.

>>382702706
Yeah I guess the game was maybe just trying to show us he was a nutter with no real logical reasons for what he was doing, what would have been better if the game gave us more time with him after the black mask fight instead of trying to cram his forgiveness there and then, and we could find out more about who he really is.

>>382702990
Agreed. I would even have preferred to see him escape and show back up in the middle of the Shido fight and make a heroic sacrifice. Anything to show he still had reason and wasn't just loony like Adachi.

>>382703426
That would have been great, him just being a nutter really didn't work that well compared to Adachi's simple hate of the world and his nihilism.

>>382703990
I actually really like Adachi because he's kind of like a bizarro version of Naoto. Instead of taking his mediocrity in stride and trying to improve himself and prove his worth, he just says "fuck it" and starts killing people to spice up his life and see how long he can get away with it. The fact that he does this primarily to women who refuse to fuck him is also hilarious. Would have loved to see more dialogue between those two, since Naoto's character arc is largely about the male-dominated work environment of the police department.

>>382694106
What a shitty character

>>382704701
Did we even see any Naoto - Adachi interactions outside of the final confrontation, because damn that's a missed oppurtunity. And yeah the Adachi paralleling Naoto is really quite interesting and something I never really thought about, mainly because I always saw him as the anti-Yu. Instead of making friends to alleviate his boredom when coming to a new town, he just fucks with people.

>>382705041
Not really. The confrontation in the hospital is awesome though, you can tell she has Adachi by the balls with Dojima there and Adachi's only course of action is to GTFO.

>>382697420
This is the only reason, and it angers /v/ everytime. He's /r9k/ in the flesh.
5 > 3 > 4

>>382694106
Persona 5 made 4 look like garbage, what the fuck are you on?
5 = 3 > 2 > 4 > 1

>>382696857
>adachi villain
The adachi did nothing wrong meme lead me to skip P4 for so long, but after playing it he's merely a """""""""""""""""""""""""pawn""""""""""""""""""""""""" weren't he?

>>382703426

I liked Akechi almost as much as Adachi because for Akechi (even though I somehow figured out he was Shido's son beforehand) he was pretty much the "opposite" of Joker. In the sense that he got the same power but he was set up to clash against Joker to see who's resolve would win, and had Akechi not heard "pancakes" he probably would have gotten away with his plans. He's smart, strong enough, and while I didn't like him relishing in the defeat of Joker it was part of his scheme. A scheme that Shido probably didn't expect (since regardless he would have sought to kill Akechi off in the end).

I don't like him as much as Adachi though because Adachi wasn't manipulatable. Akechi just needed praise to get strung around. Adachi just said fuck it and did his own thing.

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How much better would he be if he were the final boss? Think about it.
>Instead of big wigs and corrupt politicians, all of the palace rulers are shitty people who do wrong because of the situation they find themselves in, not just because "lol evil"
>they're all things like murderers, rapists, or thieves who all have sympathetic elements and aren't portrayed as cartoonishly evil
>Kamoshida is a self-loathing gym teacher who experienced sexual abuse when he was younger and now does the same thing to his students
Maybe Kamoshida was a bad example 'cause he's generally considered one of the better villains, but you catch my drift, right? I feel it would have been better for the villains to be more human and sympathetic while still also obviously being evil yet personal enemies.

>>382706298

Not so much I think. He got his power and ran around with it. But the power was being handed out like hotcakes, practically. Adachi saw what he was able to do and instead of use it for justice or mostly petty revenge he got his jollies off on two girls and then played around just for the thrill.

I see the main big bad of P4 and P5 as both major figures that nobody would have really guessed because they kind of appeared with
"hardly" any foreshadowing. They pop up, change the direction of the game dramatically by the true ending route and suddenly provide an explanation for a lot of shit that wasn't really important until the very end of the game.

>>382707092
The game would have been better without Kaneshiro. He was an extremely generic baddie and the whole plan to expose him just made Makoto look super dumb. She's lucky she didn't get raped or killed before the party could catch up to her. Kamoshida, Madarame, and Okumura were fine because they were directly fucking with the lives of the party characters. Kaneshiro was filler. It's not like Makoto needed more screentime anyway.

>>382707092

>How much better would he be if he were the final boss, but we change everything about his character

no

there's no reason the characters afterwards couldn't have been done better

atlus just made the game peak way to early.

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>>382701856
>Adachi is actually somewhat of a surprise
C'mon now. Adachi is a much better villain than Akechi, but he was just as obvious.
Dojima being a killer makes as much sense as Nanako.

>>382699197
I think it is. It's the first one I beat and even after finishing 3 (which a bunch of faggots on /v/ obsess over) I found 4 slightly more entertaining
Also Actual themed dungeons>>>Tartarus

>>382707843
I beg to differ. Dojima is shown to be emotionally unstable on numerous occasions, and he has plenty of opportunity to commit the murders because he's out of the house like 75% of the time. Nanako obviously couldn't do it because she's not strong enough to shove teens and adults into TVs.

>>382707843
Dojima was considered for the role of the killer. So was Yosuke.

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>>382707498

>He was an extremely generic baddie and the whole plan to expose him just made Makoto look super dumb. She's lucky she didn't get raped or killed before the party could catch up to her

I feel like the Kaneshiro part would improve tenfold if it didn't have Makoto's incredibly stupid moment, there HAVE to have been other ways to set up the deadline. the game did a good job of hinting and foreshadowing Kaneshiro with all the reports and rumors at Shibuya, and the students at the school who's lives are being destroyed by his blackmail.

I mean, the arc already loses points for being the point of the game where everybody in the party collectively loses the ability to think for themselves thanks to Makoto's intro, so I think Kaneshiro's really not the one to fault here.

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>>382699806
Philemon you are a cunt
all the more reason he should return

>>382708137
So was Yukiko, of all people.

>>382708309
Truly the greatest trickster.

>>382708137
If Adachi wasnt spoiled for me, I would've thought Yosuke too.

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>>382708381
>>382708137
What if teddie was the killer???

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>>382708381
Yukiko would have been a great killer, I would not have seen it coming .I bet that's the reason they have akechi join your party for one dungeon, to have that betrayal feeling

>>382708468
The only person Teddie would kill is himself

>>382708047
Losing your nerve from overwork and traumatic experience is lot different from being a psychopath. Nowhere did Dojima showed that he is actually capable of killing an innocent.

>>382708137
And he wasn't in the final product for a good reason. They'd pretty much have to rewrite him from scratch for that to work.
Yosuke I could buy though.

>>382708381
This never made much sense to me. Besides, after Adachi said the police suspected her i knew it wasnt her because stories rarely make the big baddie in a whodunit the first publicly suspected person

>>382708442
They have pretty similar boredom issues so I could see it.

>>382708540
I-I Like teddie though

>>382694106
all smt and persona games are shit

persona could be great because the concept is so good but it's handled like shit hence it sucks

>>382694106
I liked 3 better than 4 and 5, but 4 and 5 are still pretty good.

>>382708745
Finally someone who understands not everything has to be a fucking contest

>>382708594
It's not a stretch to think he would go after people he thinks might have been involved in his wife's death, or that he's just sick of scumbag criminals taking time away that he could be spending with Nanako. I'm just saying, Adachi never shows murderous intent until you figure him out either. Sociopaths are good at hiding their true feelings.

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>>382708743
then why are you in a persona thread

>>382708991
to give my opinion about this shit serie

>>382708661
He's a hell of a lot better than Morgana, but that's not exactly saying much.

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>>382708512
fuck off with those spoilers holy shit I havent beaten 5 yet but thanks to you fuckers I will have no idea if I was able to figure it out before beating the game

why do I even come here anymore

>>382709160
>Coming into a persona thread
>Still haven't beaten the newest game
Are you actually, legitimately retarded?

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>>382709056
I have seen the light, i will never play these games again

>>382709160
>he fell for the Akechi is the killer meme
It's not real, retard. We just use that to fake spoil shit for people. But if you REALLY don't wanna be spoiled, fuck off.

>>382709160
Akechi is not a twist. At all. The game beats you over the head telling you over and over again that he's the rival of the Phantom Thieves and wants to see them destroyed.

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>>382709160
Y-you're in a Persona thread on /v/ anon, the fuck did you think was gonna happen.

>>382709298
Good, glad i could help

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>>382709160
Are you serious, my man?

>>382709289
>>382709301
>>382709330
>what is the front page

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>>382709556
>Not using catalog
How fucking new

>>382709556
>the front page only shows the OP
Fucking what

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>>382709556
It's still a fucking Persona thread.

>>382709556
>being too retarded to use the catalog
>remaining in this thread to prove how retarded you are
Akechi tries to kill the MC but it's actually Sae's cognitive version of him and Akechi gets killed by Shido's cognitive version of himself. Fuck you.

>>382708951
If criminals got thrown into TV, sure, Dojima could've been a suspect. That wasn't the case though.
>Adachi never shows murderous intent until you figure him out either. Sociopaths are good at hiding their true feelings.
Adachi just has that suspicious demeanor about him. Same as chairman in P3. They're both acting friendly, but you know something is up with them. That they're hiding something.
Dojima on the other hand even when he was losing himself had that genuine quality about him.

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>>382709556
you're worse than the 60 year old brit women who complain about spoilers on the facebook page of an american crime drama

>>382709716
>view replies

>>382709957
This. Adachi was the only one who showed up so frequently yet without any real apparent plot purpose. I began to suspect they wouldnt be shoving him in my face for no real reason.
And I first played Persona 4, not Golden, and when they didnt have a social link for him I knew something was up

>>382708137

Damn, imagine if a Protagonist's first teammate turned out to be the main antagonist?

That would be trippy.

>>382709957
But who's to say his mind wouldn't have been so far gone that he started throwing people in just to prevent future crime? Just saying it's a possibility, and it's better than Adachi's "I did it for the lulz."

>>382710202
His plot purpose is to be the absent-minded detective who "accidentally" gives you information about the police investigation.

>>382710202

desu if there was a social link for Adachi I would have expected it was him especially if he was a plot related social link or there was no way to progress him after a certain point.

What was the overarching political message of Persona 5?

I get that it was generally anti-authoritarian in nature, but what was with the ending and the masses being portrayed as being stupid and hedonistic?

>>382710720
You can level his up to 6, and then up to 8 in some plot scenes, then the last two after you know he is the killer

>>382710625
Which I knew was total bullshit.
>talking loudly to himself in the middle of a department store food store about the case
>immediately walks over to JUST THE PEOPLE INVESTIGATING THE CASE to say "haha oops forget I said that okay? haha silly me"

and then the tofu shop stake out

>looking for murderer
>once again, allows the ONLY OTHER PEOPLE MAKING HEADWAY ON THE CASE to witness this
>see some faggot climbing up an electrical pole nearby
>"YEP, YOU DID IT ALRIGHT. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. DONT WORRY KIDS CASE CLOSED NO NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS ANYMORE HAHA RIGHT GO ME!"


He tried too hard to obfuscate the facts and really wasnt as bright as the writers tried to make him out to be in the end

>>382710406
Because it's nonsense in the context of his character. No, scratch that, it's nonsense period. Even if we're assume Dojima's persona was actually crime predicting abilities, which is already travelling in the bullshit territory, in the world where drugs, weapons, god knows what else exist, he decides to start tossing tv sluts and highschool kids into tv?

>Just saying it's a possibility, and it's better than Adachi's "I did it for the lulz."

No, it's not. Adachi's motivation is perfectly understandable and human. That's why there was really no surprise that he was the killer, yet he was a good character nonetheless.
Trying to somehow make Dojima a killer is just downright retarded.

>>382710934
I thought it was more anti-media than anything, with the way the public is so easily swayed by confirmation bias on the Phansite and then swayed back by Akechi's television appearances.

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>>382710934
Unsure about the political message but from what I got Yaldy had distorted the hearts of the general masses losing the ability to think for themselves

I dont know if 5 was just trash or if the translation was. The palaces were really long and boring and there was tons of talking. The social links were boring and their abilities messed with the game balance. Characters, music, and atmosphere, all lame. I quit persona 5 in august before saving the neet and feel no reason to come back. 4 golden is the perfect persona game

>>382711148
>in the world where drugs, weapons, god knows what else exist
Hardly any of that exists in Inaba though. After the first two murders, months pass, and it's still the only thing the local news is talking about. His reasoning for tossing Rise in would be pretty apparent (bad influence for Nanako), Kanji is a given, and you could come up with a reason for Yukiko, like maybe she was thrown in like Saki because she may have known something about the announcer's death. Naoto was thrown in because she was getting too close to uncovering the truth.

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>>382706649
>He's smart,

>hey shido is telling me to make sure there's no traces leading back to him so let me help him
>doesn't consider the fact that shido would obviously get rid of him once he's president since he's the only one who could fuck him over

He's dumb as fuck

>>382711563
The real killer only threw in Yamano, Saki, and Mitsuo. The rest were Namatame

>>382711581
I thought he was planning to fuck Shido over before that happened though. Not sure how but it's stated.

4 has the best social links
Thats the only thing it has over 3 and 4
2 has Eikichi so its the best

>>382711563
The reasons you give are so petty, it would be just bad writing for the sake of retarded plot twist.

>>382711664
I know. I'm speaking in hypotheticals, like making that Kubo kid take the fall for everything.

>>382694106

small town is more comfy and mysterious.

also Adachi.

>>382711795
Adachi's reasons are pretty bad too

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How did they get away with stealing the entire premise of part 4?

How can anyone genuinely like P4 after reading/watching part 4?

>>382711581

"No traces leading back to him" except Akechi intentionally said nothing about him being the illegitimate child and held that as his trump, willing to do whatever Shido asked.

He WAS an idiot for taking in the praise as if it really meant anything but he was setting up for a twist right during election day and for someone like him to have a Persona ability as strong as he had it, I think he was pretty overconfident in his abilities.

Especially considering Shido didn't have a Persona so Akechi could arguably just fuck Shido's shit up without warning.

>>382712032
Fuck off JoJo autist

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>>382711680
No

He literally said he was waiting for Shido to first accomplish his task of being prime minister so he could kill him on the high.

Shido had him fucked over before it got to happen. Akechi was dumb as fuck for this retarded idea.

>>382711909
How are they bad? Being stuck in a boring town with a boring job, while having mindset of a manchild is a reason enough to start going crazy. That's why Yosuke would probably wound up a serial killer if brotag wouldn't show up. Probably starting with Saki due to all that pent up sexual frustration.

>>382712064
It doesn't matter, shido was 1 step ahead and had him fucked over before the actual announcement because he was going to get rid of him regardless

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>>382712032
>I purposely came into a thread filled with a topic I get mad about out and now im mad! How could this have happened!?

>>382712032
what the fuck is part 4?

>>382707092
I liked having villains who were just assholes for a change, you don't need to make every bad guy some damaged thing worthy of sympathy.

>>382712386
How is that better than the hard-boiled by-the-book detective finally snapping, the guy who works day in and day out away from his precious lonely daughter to make charges stick to worthless scumbag criminals while he's constantly thinking about how his wife's killer got away?

>>382709067
Morgana didn't become an annoying horn dog, Teddie a shit.

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How does /v/ feel about this image?

>>382712708
LADY ANN YOU'RE SO GORGEOUS I WOULD LITERALLY EAT YOUR SHIT

>>382712736
Doesn't make sense. Kanji ignores Rise for the most part even when she's outright flirting with him. Shipping him with anyone other than Naoto is dumb.

>>382712760
Ok, but at least he was only doing it to ONE girl; taking ann from him felt great, did it for my boy ryuji.

>>382712970
>not leaving her for Ryuji to have himself

>>382712736

makes as much sense as Ann x Ryuji.

>>382712682
Because Dojima is not a 16 year old hormonal bitch to snap and go kill people. Neither is he 20 something manchild with no purpose in life.
Dojima also has a daughter for fucks sake. And you're still trying to convince me he would go and kill a tv announcer just for... I don't even know. Please, don't ever write a book, dude. Your perception of human psychology is just baffling.

>>382713120
I wish you could use your MC game to get your teammates to date.

>>382712970
I don't know, something about Teddie was more endearing. His flirtatiousness is played for laughs rather than being downright fedora-tier pathetic like Morgana. Even when his angelic babyface human form is revealed, the girls are just shocked rather than obnoxiously swooning over him. Plus he genuinely tries to help the team instead of sitting back and taking all the credit.

>>382713223
Dojima should have been a party member desu. Would have improved the game a ton. Prove me wrong.

>>382713223
We don't exactly know a lot about the announcer chick. And please don't pretend real human psychology applies here. All I'm saying is that you could very easily rewrite the story with Dojima as the killer, nothing more and nothing less.

>>382713256
Playing matchmaker would have been great, but would have been unworkable because of the autistic screeching from the JP otaku fans.

>>382713357
Hell yes. What would his persona be, though?

>>382694106
P4 is the worst in the series

P3 is like P4 but actually challenging
P5 is closer to mainline (therefore good) than 3 and 4
P2 has best girl
P1 doesn't have Marie

>>382712890
Kanji and Rise got pretty close though

>>382697673
>Adachi is cocky, but he is also relateable

>>>/deviantart/
>>>/livejournal/
>>>/fanfictiondotnet/

>>382713505
Yeah, if you kill Nanako at the start of the game and make the first and every victim after some kind of a hard boiled criminal.

>>382714024
>if you kill Nanako at the start of the game
You could do that, but I think it would detract a great deal from his motivation.
>make the first and every victim after some kind of a hard boiled criminal.
Not necessarily, because that wouldn't make him much of a sociopath like Adachi.

>>382713813
>closer to mainline

How so more than old persona's?

>>382712462
he means part 4 of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

>>382713917
>I have never felt bored, unhappy, wronged, or jealous in my entire life

>>382713813
kill yourself

>>382714712
I have felt all of those things, but never once in my life have I felt the need to go full Elliot mode because of them. Because actually having that reaction is super unhealthy. If you find Adachi to be a seriously relatable character, book an appointment with a mental health professional at your earliest convenience.

>>382715140
Where should I redirect you my good sir? Neogaf or Tumblr?

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>get the ability to manipulate and brainwash people
>get big enough the public are aware of you
>only use your powers for big bad evil adults

Why are persona games always this boring?

Even Akechi's goal was boring as fuck.

>>382715374
>Not being a selfless hero
Fuck off, edgelord

>>382715140
Alot of people would go eliot mode if they had the same power.

You are delusional if you think it's not possible.

>>382715316
You can go back to >>>/r9k/ for starters.

>>382715557
Neogaf it is! You can go discuss how female empowered P5 is there little buddy :) Fight the misogyny!

>>382710934
Japanese social stigma are fucked up.
That's the message.

>>382715648
>being this triggered
Don't post outside of your hugbox if you can't handle it

>>382715374
There were times I thought Ryuji was right and we should just say we're the Phantom Thieves and ride the fame wave. I know the game makes a big deal about Japan's conviction rates being 99.99% and all that but they didn't have dick for evidence on the PT. No court on Earth would actually be able to convict them of stealing peoples hearts via a cognitive metaverse which they access through a phone app. No jury on Earth would be able to handle that.

You're kind of downplaying their ambitions though. They forced a famous artist to stop plagiarizing, made a food magnate admit that his company was selling people garbage and mistreating its workers, and even changed the entire course of Japanese politics. They did pretty good considering they're just kids and were under a lot of scrutiny.

Obviously if you had the PT power and a few years to plan things out you could do some really world-changing things but they were pressed.

>>382715517
You can go Elliot mode literally tomorrow. All you need is a gun, like Elliot himself did.

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>>382715939
>getting a gun a shooting people
>pushing people into a TV
>these two things being in anyway similar

>>382696602
Not it's not. 5 is dogshit. 3 is actually good.

It's kind of scary to think what many people would do with Adachi's power. It's like if you could just wish somebody out of existence and it happened leaving no trace to you, a lot of people would do some fucked up shit simply because they can't be caught.

>>382716141
shut the fuck up about 3 already, it's honestly the worst of nuPersona because it lacks mechanics that 5 and even 4 had.

>>382710934
The message, from what I understand, is about individuality and forming your own thoughts and opinions. The public is too stupid to think for itself and only follows what the media says and believes in it. After the Shido confession, the media stops talking about the confession literally like 2 days after it happened and all talk regarding the PT stops. There are people saying "Woah I remember the Phantom Thieves from like a couple of months ago" literally 20 days after the Shidos confession

>>382716141
Not that guy, but 5 is actually good, 3 is decent, and 4 is dogshit.

>>382716289
The story and characters are top notch though

I agree that Tartarus is pretty weak though

>>382716386
>story
>topnotch
>DEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATHDEATH

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>>382697673
>but he is also relateable and has far more going for him in terms of the narrative with you and the team
When I was playing p4 I replied in a persona thread that I though the IT was dumb as fuck and some faggot said I hadn't seen the worst that was the confrontation with Adachi
Fuck that anon,that was literally the only part they made any sense,I bet he was an Adachifag like you

>>382716458
Well yeah the theme of the game is how people deal with death but that doesn't mean it's not handled well

>>382715842
The point of giving away your identity is retarded. Imagine assissans in suits come after them and force them to do their bidding for them like threatening their family and shit? That's why it's better to have not made your real identities known.

But yeah i ain't downplaying nothing, just that their plans and what they did was boring, most of the time everything they did was out of self defence more than them choosing their target out of free will.

Just imagine once they were known they could threaten anyone to do shit for them or tell them they'll force them to confess everything like all their previous victims in public.

>>382716386
I like both 3 and 4's character honestly. I dunno why people have a problem with the investigation team

I don't know how anyone can think this, it was a rehash of 4 with a story so rushed they didn't even make a script.

>>382716494
So if Yu dates Naoto, does this simultaneously cuck both Kanji and Rise?

>>382716252
You bet i would throw my boss in

>>382716652
> Imagine assissans in suits come after them and force them to do their bidding for them like threatening their family and shit? That's why it's better to have not made your real identities known.
Yeah, shit, you're right. Their only real defense was Futaba being some kind of world class hacker but I guess that wouldn't help much if the Yakuza just decided "let's kidnap those fucking kids"

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4 is the weakest, most normie friendly game in the series.

>>382716289
3 is the best Persona only rivaling 2 IS. It had a better story and characterization than 4 and 5. Tartarus is mediocre sure but it's the only difficult Persona game besides P1 snow quest. 4 is ok, 5 is trash tier.
>nu-persona
Yeah like you played 1 and 2 you fucking normalfag.

>>382716768
You ever see that episode of Twilight Zone where the little kid has omnipotent god powers and does things like kill people with his mind or just delete them from existence? Reminds me of that.

And a lot of people probably feel like you do, which is terrifying

>>382716728
why would it cuck Rise? Rise literally presents herself as wanting to jump into Yu's pants as early as they save her

>>382716728
Yu cucks almost every other romanceable female character in the game by getting with anyone. If all SL being at 10 is canon (which would make sense kinda) then every single female has tried to jump his bones

>>382716940
Well technically it would be Naoto cucking Rise, but the point is that Yu/Naoto is NTR end for a full quarter of your party

>>382716578
Adachi was essentially throwing a tantrum, but the point is the emotions behind his choice and why he choose them makes sense. The IT didn't really have a pragmatic answer for his question, just to trust your friends to help you, and he was so jaded he couldn't understand them and therefore it makes sense why he continued to act that way

>>382716931
A game doesn't have to be difficult to be good. Character and story stuff is subjective. P3fags need to realize their anime highschool rpg is no better than the others

>>382716940
>Rise wants Yu
>Kanji wants Naoto
>Yu and Naoto get with eachother
>Rise loses chance with Yu
>Kanji loses chance with Naoto

did i miss anything

>>382694106
the lewds, specifically adachis imo

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>>382716940
Who can blame her?

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>>382716930
>4 the most normie friendly
>not 5
come on, I like 5 and it's super normie. The game has not a single challenging fight even on hard

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>>382717174
Oh my bad.
>tfw romanced Naoto in every playthough.
Kanji's a bro but I can't not love the busty reverse trap

>>382717063
It was a great confrontation
Adachi is a violent psychopath after years of adult life beating him down
the IT is a bunch of highschool superstars with a healthy circle of friends and their answer to him is
>"we have our friends to help us through any problem!"
and Adachi reasonably responds
>"that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard"

he's still a piece of shit but I completely understand where he was coming from in that exchange

>>382717280
Stop lying faggot. That fucking angel in the castle is a bitch to fight on Hard mode.

>>382708137
Yosuke would've been a pretty fun twist. He already wanted to make his small town life more exciting and was sexually repressed like Adachi, too.

>>382717164
I consider 3 4 and 5 to be roughly equal all things considered. It really just depends on what mood you're in.

>>382717434
Plus the way he pushes for everyone to shove Namatame into the TV, felt almost like he was used to doing that to people.

>>382717434
Without MC's influence I'm convinced Yosuke would have become just like Adachi
Maybe not a killer, but pretty fucked up

>>382717174
Kanji and Rise are too pure to suffer like this
>Kanji and Rise meet up to study like normal but it turns into a pity party because they both just got NTRd. No studying gets done and they do terribly on their next test.

>>382717424
>having trouble with a fucking turtorial boss
jesus christ no wonder SMT fags say Persona is for babies

>>382717280
>Madarame
>Not Hard
Idk if you cheated and looked up ways to beat him the first time but this guy wrecked me the first time before I figured his mechanics. I thought I had to kill every single piece before any had a turn.

>>382717381
Yeah, this. In Adachi's social link you learn that his parents only cared about his school performance and he didnt have the time to make friends.
This in mind, its clear why he would think having friends to help is stupid. He never experienced it and was conditioned from a young age that others just get in the way of your goals

>>382717612
I agree, I could never romance Naoto because of this. Not to say that I picked Rise any more than I had to (Only romanced everyone for my NG+ playthroughs, I'm a Yukikofag at heart) but Kanji and Naoto both being adorable while trying to be tough was just a match made in heaven

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>>382694106
Aight i'm gonna do the contrarian and have the worst opinion possible.

1 > 2 = 4 > 5 = 3

Persona is simple, yet conveys its message very well. It puts on the foundations to the whole saga, and honestly i really liked the gameplay, although most people found it to have aged quite badly i disagree. I loved having to mind the formation of the party and the whole route thing. The characters are nothing memorable and quite simple, but that kinda puts on the focus on the dramatic force of the plot in general. Besides, i find that this game is the one that better portrays jungian psychology, with the shadow not being simply your edgy side but rather the part of a duality inside the self (i'm talking about Mai and Aki, of course).

Persona 2 inherits many traits from Persona and to some extent makes them even better, though it is here that the concept of shadow and persona is kinda fucked up. The characters are great and the plot is amazing (the relevance of the cthulu mythos here, which i love, is the icing on the cake). What i didn't like about it though was how they divided it. There was no need for that at all, and as if that wasn't enough, because of that the localization was completely fucked up (Revelations Persona's whitewashing was awful as well, but at least we managed to get a WHOLE game).

Now, here's where things get tough. Usually people tend to built a wall between the dualogy and the games from 3 to 5. Personally, i'd like to see them as 2, different sides of the same coin. Just like how Philemon did a reset of the world, so did Atlus "resetting" the concept of the saga.

And that's why i put the hated Persona 4 right along what's usually considered the best of the series: because they're two different things.

(1/2)

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>>382717642
I had swift strike, so I just spammed it to kill the pieces and magic on one that absorbed physical. Swift strike destroyed everything in palaces 1-3

>>382717381
>the IT is a bunch of highschool superstars with a healthy circle of friends
Yosuke was rejected by the entire town because his family technically ruined the local business
Chie and Yukiko only ever interacted with each other, Chie being that worse one was always only used by people to get close to Yukiko, Yukiko never had any people skills other than serving tea to customers
Kanji was bullied at first, then he started dressing and acting the way he does and was even further rejected for being violent
Rise became an idol because she was bullied at school and couldn't make any friends
Naoto never fit in with anyone and would rather spend time reading dumb detective stories, then she was too engrossed with work to have a normal teenage life and even there she was ridiculed
None of them had a "healthy circle of friends" until they found each other.

>>382717843
Nah man, Naoto is best girl, and chad always gets what he wants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIuVO1SsFYs

>>382717916
Tldr shit opinion

>>382717843
But Naoto isn't interested in Kanji in the slightest. It's all a huge mess.

>>382718034
>None of them had a "healthy circle of friends" until they found each other.
but that's my point. By the time they confront Adachi they have a healthy circle of friends and use that as their answer to him, which he simply doesn't understand or care about.

Sure before they were outcasts but they all met eachother and became happy. That never happened to Adachi so he couldn't understand or empathize with the "power of friendship"

>>382718054
He was only chad because he was "drunk"
He goes back to being deadpan superman shortly afterwards

>>382717164
>A game doesn't have to be difficult to be good
True, but if I turn a game on the highest difficulty I want a challenge

>>382718189
Adachi was a dickhead who purposefully pushed everyone away from him. He isn't a loner because some DIRTY CHAD REEEE stole his bitches, he's a loner because he actively chooses to reject connections with others because he looks down on them as inferior. He can't understand or empathize with the "power of friendship" because he's a psycho who sees others as tools to use and discard, and holds no value in forming bonds with others.

>>382712032
Part 4's setup was so fucking good that I wouldn't mind it being copied by a few more IPs. Scooby-Doo gangs defending their hometowns from serial killers is a really engaging setup.

>>382718174
Its hard to say that, really. Naoto and Kanji are shit at expressing themselves. In the Golden ski trip, when Yu and Rise are hanging out with Naoto and Kanji, it really had a "group date" vibe going on.
Even if Kanji winds up getting friendzoned as a big brother type, it would still be a cute relationship.

>>382718423
I think it's a mixture of both. Yes he's a total psychopath and actively chose to push people away, but he probably never even had the chance to begin with. It's not entirely clear with Adachi at what point in his development his psychopathy really manifested. He could have turned out as an OK or maybe he was rotten from the start we'll never know.

The point is when the IT says "just believe in your friends" he thinks they're the dumbest fucking people on the planet for saying that and honestly they were.

>>382718602
But they saved the world and Adachi gets buttfucked in prison. Whose laughing now?

>>382716458
>P5
JUSTICESHITTYADULTSFREEDOMJUSTICE

>>382718726
Adachi just didn't know what game series he was in

>>382718189
the point wasn't to convince Adachi that friendship is power but to present that to the player. Adachi is an example of what happens when you reject everyone around you, IT was an example of what happens if you don't. You spend the entire year listening to people, helping them out and being there for them. This is the argument against everything he says.

>>382717916
Persona 3 introduces social links, but they're applied quite rudimentally. Managing the routine is stressful, and the "Tired" condition is one of the most awful things i've ever seen in a JRPG, along with your party controlled by a fucking AI and a linear dungeon which just drags on and on, occasionally interrupted by full moon events. The only things that don't make me hate this are the wonderful plot, the well written characters (that's the major role of the social links, gaining a 360° view of their personalities) and its aesthetic sense. Persona 3 is the most aesthetically pleasing games i've ever seen, no doubt about it.

Persona 4 finally gives you back control over your party and social links here are placed as a nice break from one-day-sessions of huge farming. Dungeons are poor but still an improvement over P3. And what really hits me in this game is probably the same factor that turned it into such a milking machine: the chemistry between the party members. The characters are connected between each other extremely well, you can tell perfectly how a character perceives another: add this to the rural location and you have one of the comfiest games ever. Persona 2 is a wonderful JRPG. Persona 4 is a wonderful whatever-that-is.

Persona 5 put on magnificient dungeons, brings back demon trading and kinda builds a bridge between the dualogy and what came after it. But in doing so, it isn't particularly effective in either way. JRPG gameplay wise, it's slightly better than the previous 2 personas, but not as good as the first ones. Characterization wise, characters are still quite good, but... Well, Joker acts like glue between all the others. Compared to the previous mentioned chemistry between P4 party members, the lack of such bonds seems even stronger, and characters like Haru seem there just for the sake of it. But despite all that, it has an extremely well structured plot, and the aesthetic element is pretty strong in this one as well.

(2/2)

>>382694106
It wasn't as serious as 3 or 5. It handled itself like a crappy 80s show, unironically similar to Scooby Doo. It didn't have nearly as much of the 2deep4u bullshit, and the dips into bullshit psychology were all treated simply rather than doven into.

The only thing holding it back was the lack of reasonable suspicion to accuse the gas station attendant.

>>382718531
>Even if Kanji winds up getting friendzoned as a big brother type, it would still be a cute relationship.
Maybe to you, but to Kanji it would be suffering.

>>382718850

P.S.
P5 treats Jungian psychology quite fucking well, probably almost as good as P1.

>>382718837
Well yes it represents it to the player, but from a story standpoint they essentially don't have an answer to Adachi. Like you said, the bonds they've made over the year made them stronger and that's their argument but they're unable to articulate it properly and Adachi is unable/unwilling to understand it.

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>>382718726
>implying adachi isnt a total alpha in prison doing the buttfucking

>>382718837
I see it this way too. Part of me thinks Atlus knows people have an unhealthy attachment to video games, and this was them saying "Look, these folks were outcasts too, but they found eachother by believing in doing the right thing and now they're on the road to success"
Which is a nice thought but it took some seriously extreme circumstances to bring that about.

>>382718990
Kanji is so oblivious he probably wouldn't have the ability to get jealous even if Naoto went and got a boyfriend.
>"s-sorry kanji-kun, Chad-senpai is coming over right now"
>"Man you've been seeing alot of him lately. And whats with all the candles n shit? Your power go out or something? oh well, later."

>>382700101
Social links are the only reason these games are good.

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>>382710290
>Yosuke is the killer
>Ryuji and Junpei are traitors

Would have felt bitter as fuck to get betrayed by these guys but it would make for one hell of a dramatic twist

Thematically Yosuke could have the same exact small town problem's Adachi did and even has a tie to one of the murder victims
Ryuji would be sort of tricky but the whole phantom thieves thing does really go to his head during the middle of the game, escalate that and he starts believing he's too good for the rest of the thieves
Genuinely unsure how you make Junpei evil

>>382719220
>>implying adachi isnt a total alpha in prison doing the buttfucking
>Implying a wildcard doesn't change positions as needed

>>382719345
But Jester is the opposite of the Fool

>>382719314
I went into P5 spoiler-free and I legitimately thought Ryuji was the traitor for a long time. Akechi seemed too obvious, and Ryuji was "stupid" in a way that almost seemed calculating, like everything he did was to try to get the Phantom Thieves busted.

Turns out he's just fucking retarded

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>>382719345
>no persona 4 spin off where adachi forms social links with other prisoners to save it from an abusive warden

>>382719220
Who gets to be the one to break it to Kanji that Naoto is now taken? Is it Yu, Rise, or his mom? Those are the only people who are actually close to him.

>>382719441
Remember, he is the one who said it was no big deal to enter the metaverse in broad daylight (it was)

>>382719392
Which means he enjoys every minute of it.

>>382719504
>"Hey Adachi, can i bum a smoke?"
-No fuck off
-Suck me off first
-Yeah sure
>yeah sure
>Your Understanding has increased!
>"Thanks fucker"
>I AM THOU, THOU ART I

>>382712736

Rise doesn't look like a boy though

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>>382719441
I understand bro, you didn't think they'd jump for something so obvious. After all, Persona 4 does give you two pretty legitimate fake killers before showing you the real one

>>382719529
>or his mom
I fucking felt hurt FOR kanji at that remark

>>382719839
Yeah they played me. They had me all primed up to look for the "secret" enemy when the real one was right there. I completely missed the pancakes thing too.

>>382719504
>No spinoff where you play as King Moron and Mr. Edogawa and fight actual demons Mario and Luigi style

>>382719441
I think that could definitely work thematically. He is the first person you bump into as a fellow Persona user. It would require a substantial rewrite of the story, but it'd be infinitely better than the Akechi meme.

>>382719781
fuck you that's funny

I need Lockup: Inaba now

>>382720119
Eh, not really.

>>382720119
The only real rewrite I can think of would be having him act a little suspicious during the Kamoshida's Castle incident

Like throw in a tiny hint that this isn't his first time experiencing something like this, but things are happening so fast the player glosses over it

Play up his frustration at having to have a secret identity, too

>>382720124
>the way into the metaverse is in the showers
>a bunch of prisoners always sneaking into the showers late at night
>guards are too horrified at what they may be doing in there to go stop them

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>>382699505
>>382717916
Let's go boyyys
Persona 1 defense squad

>>382720384
Having the power to change peoples hearts in prison is OP if you think about it

You'd have to be retarded not to be able to either live like a king or escape easily

>>382719074
>and Adachi is unable/unwilling to understand it.
and had they been reciting essays to him, that wouldn't change. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped, his S.Link in P4G only drove the point further.
>but from a story standpoint they essentially don't have an answer to Adachi.
from the story standpoint, you just spent 70 hours proving him wrong. There is no need to articulate it because, again, that's not the point of the confrontation. You are beating his ass with a representation of why he was wrong, him having knowledge of that isn't important, it's important what the player sees that and understands what is happening. You are focusing too much on seeing Adachi as a person, fixating on a detail that is irrelevant, when his purpose in that scene is to represent a certain view.

>>382720537
>You are focusing too much on seeing Adachi as a person, fixating on a detail that is irrelevant, when his purpose in that scene is to represent a certain view.
You know, you're right. And I feel stupid about it because I started off by saying he's an irredeemable psychopath so I'm not even sure why I'm trying to defend him.

>>382719572
He also mentioned they need to watch their asses when entering the metaverse when they pulled Ann in by accident. The reckless usage of the metaverse app is more the fault of the entire group. Even supposedly "smart" characters like Makoto and Morgana just go right along with entering the metaverse right next to Okumura Foods HQ, or next to the Diet Building.

I had Akechi pinned the moment he was introduced due to being introduced right after the Black Mask guy being mentioned, but I also expected Ryuji to just be playing the fool. He had the odd moment where he'd say something genuinely insightful that made me wonder if he knew more about the situation than he let on. Not to mention how fucking powerful he is as a party member: the overpowered party member double crossing you is a classic RPG cliche after all.

>>382720750
>He also mentioned they need to watch their asses when entering the metaverse when they pulled Ann in by accident
Yeah wait a minute how the fuck did that never happen again? They weren't careful at all.

>>382720750
>how fucking powerful he is as a party member
yeah seriously charge + god hand make him essential

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>>382720864
To be fair they accidentally pull Akechi in once, and this is also technically how they get forced into letting Yusuke into the group. Activating the thing in a crowd of people or right in front of a corporate building is just begging for trouble, though.

Akechi gets kind of spoiled by the interface, though. His confidant perk page looks totally different from the other S.Links.

>>382721253
What spoiled Akechi for me was that the black masked person has a very distinctive standing stance, and it just so happens to be Akechi's too
also if you let the timer run out on a palace and get the bad ending where joker is killed, his assassin speaks and though the voice is garbled the speech patterns and tone make it very obvious that it's Akechi

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>>382721253
>speech patterns and tone make it very obvious that it's Akechi

Even if you don't get tipped off by pancakes, a bad ending or interface spoilers, there's still the fact that Akechi bends over fucking backwards to market himself as an affable teenage ace detective to everybody all the time. It's painfully obvious that he's putting on airs whenever he talks to anybody. The only way I can see somebody ignoring that would be overexposure to shitty anime character tropes or expecting him to be a red herring for being too obvious.

>>382721253
>>382721532
Both of these are utterly blatant giveaways that are completely avoidable, yeah. It kind of makes you wonder if Atlus gave this any thought at all, as literally no one should've been surprised by Akechi.

>>382722005
But that's just it, it was SO obvious especially with the Light/L parallel they were doing that I started to second-guess myself and think "no way this guy's the traitor it's too fucking obvious"

Even when he joined right before the dungeon where I know I get betrayed and caught, I was still thinking "no way it has to be deeper than that"

Turns out they got me. The real trick was about the interrogation, not the traitor. and the fact that the PT knew about Akechi

>>382713602
>>382713256
Go play modern FE games you mentally ill pieces of shit. God I fucking hate shippers.

>Kanji and Rise meet up for a pity party after finding out that Yu and Naoto are dating
>Rise: "I think we should find a way to get back at them, Kanji" she says suggestively
>Kanji: "Ohh, I see what you're getting at"
>Next scene is Rise driving her scooter at night with Kanji on the back, knocking over their mailboxes with a golf club

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haha what the fuck?

>>382722173
One of the things that annoyed me about the interrogation was the vagueness of the final choice. Telling Sae who your teammates are is a pretty damn reasonable decision, as it might be the turning point for her to finally take your side. Unlike Persona 4, where getting the true ending is fairly logical, in 5 it's almost a coin-flip.

>>382722692
Well if I were in Sae's position, I wouldn't trust a betraying guy ESPECIALLY since my little sister at stake in here.

So I kinda get that.

>>382722692
Yeah, that was the most interesting part of the game for me because just about a minute before the coin-flip decision you mentioned, I had a quick epiphany about how what Shido did in his Palace to protect himself was similar to the dream security from Inception, and the idea popped into my head that "Joker is still in the metaverse". So I gambled on that and decided fuck this interrogation I'm not even here right now
turns out I was right and that was really fucking rewarding

>>382722640
>being a haremfag

>>382722692
To be fair, Joker does get a thought bubble that basically tells you to reconsider ratting out your friends.

I still only picked the right one because I got all Watsonian and assumed maintaining your integrity at any cost would be the right answer, thanks to being a JRPG.

>>382723342
I'm not a haremfag.

>>382722692
holy shit try not to be such a snitch you bitch-ass nigga. NEVER give info to the pigs, man.

>>382722659
I fucking kekked

>Dojima comes out with his gun drawn when they throw eggs at Yu's house
>Naoto, Naoto's grandfather, and the secretary come out with their guns
>finally they cry themselves to sleep in the lobby of the tofu shop
>Rise's grandmother and Kanji's mother put blankets over their respective charges and have tea together in the next room over

>>382723596
Because I was romancing fluffy sensei it felt like Sae was an obvious honeypot
You're right Joker should have given them nothing especially since they drugged and abused him in fact that should have been your first big tip-off that the interrogation is not taking place in reality

>>382723818
>>finally they cry themselves to sleep in the lobby of the tofu shop
>>Rise's grandmother and Kanji's mother put blankets over their respective charges and have tea together in the next room over
Anon, this is too intimate for just friends

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>>382722942
>yfw Ryuji reacts to the news report

>when people always say Persona games remind them of the highschool experience they never had but your highschool experience was actually remarkably similar minus the superpowers and you've still kept in touch with those people, some of whom have gone on to be parents or actually accomplish their dream and you're the odd one out but your life is still pretty decent
guess my arcana
it's The Star

>>382722659
You would frighten Nanako with such acts of vandalism? You do not deserve forgiveness

>>382724157
Thats what makes it so pure

>>382724263
>Don't remember. Drugs.

>>382723913
What, interrogation happened in reality.
You getting killed, that happened in metaverse.

It's not the same.

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>>382709160
You can't be serious, right? The very first thing he says to you guys while alone is what Morgana just said.

>>382725435
You'd be surprised how many people missed that
more than will admit it here

>>382725389
You know what I mean man

>>382725541
I missed it because I skipped some of Morgana's dialogue when I felt like pretending he didn't exist

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how does she do it?

>>382725675
He really started to piss me off with the railroading to go to sleep and I didn't know that if you max out Kawakami you can stay up later
I'm still mad

>>382725696
Naoto = high-functioning autism
Chie = low-functioning autism

>>382725643
Yeah my bad there.

>>382725696
be being best girl

>>382697420
There's nothing wrong with identifying with a character. Grow up.

>>382725896
no it's fine it's an important distinction to make anyway

I meant "interrogation" as just when Joker is in the room, but you're right the actual interrogation is taking place in reality and the killing happens in the metaverse

>>382724896
But anon, getting super intimate during times of extreme emotional turmoil like that only ends in one way

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>>382694307

>>382716328
Wasn't that when Yaldy had started to stop playing fair and just cheated though?

4>>>>>>>>> 5 in terms of comf

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>>382694106
I still prefer Persona 4 over 3 and 5. Haven't played 1 and 2. Persona 3 has the better plot and character development, but the gameplay is absolute shit, while Persona 5 has the best gameplay, but an absolute shit story. Persona 4 is the perfect balance.

>>382726535
Inaba is better than Tokyo but LeBlanc is better than Dojima's house

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What would you guys like for the setting of the next Persona game?
I would like something like a mix of the city from 3 and Inaba. A comfy town along the sea like pic related.

>>382727109
Okinawa with a green or seafoam/teal color scheme just to lighten things up again
P5 was heavy and a little oppressive

>>382727109
I'd like a small fishing village in a tropical setting. A Japanese highschool is inevitable, but setting it in an isolated village would be a good opportunity to involve the rest of the community. Maybe they could center the plot around feeling like the world is moving past you, and have this be reflected in the community by young people moving away to the mainland and local businesses drying up as the town slowly dies.

>>382727759
Having your actions and choices directly effect what direction the city takes could be interesting if done correctly

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>I spent 100 thousand yen on a salt rock

>>382728157
I'm more interested in what the social links and party could be. Persona 3 had a pretty ubiquitous theme of death, but what would it look like if a Persona game focused on the death of people's homes and social networks?

>sports coach struggling to find enough people to so much as form a local softball team
>NEET loser whose friends all moved to the mainland, leaving him alone
>local business owner forced to make tough choices as his niche business fails to find an audience
>greenhorn paramedic terrified by the prospect of actually having to be a first responder due to skills rusting from inactivity
>shady new kid from a poor family moves in after property values in the village plummet

You could take any member of a community and probably write a pretty interesting social link just from that central theme.

>>382726107
which way is that, anon? :3

>>382724487
I'M SO FUCKING happy you have that anon, I hope you cherish those bonds and memories. I'm sending some good thoughts AT YOU FAGGOT

>>382729290
That's actually not bad at all. If P3 was death then your idea would be like entropy. Maybe the resolution would be to try and re-energize things/people.

>teacher who has been at the school for decades and seen thousands of students either leave or wither away in the town is dejected about their job and just in it for the paycheck
>Star Arcana character is a qt environmental scientist college student who's here to study bugs and wears cute exploring gear
>your Junpei/Yosuke/Ryuji has a hot single mother that you can romance but it locks out his S.Link
those last 2 are admittedly just for me

>>382728309
You get it back, unlike a certain teacher.

>>382729785
Never fuck your bros mom

>>382730279
story time anon

>>382730279
That's why it would lock out his S.Link and maybe even set you on the bad end path. But the option should be there.

>>382730334
I don't have a story time, just saying never fuck your bros mom

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>>382730404
>not speaking from experience
so you dont REALLY know if thats a bad thing to do then?

>>382730540
He means it's just the rules man. It's common courtesy. You wouldn't want your friend to fuck your mom, it's weird. It's not a cool thing to do.

>>382730540
Why would I ever do that do a friend?

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>>382727109
P5 gave me a taste of what they can do with a big and more ambitious setting and I'd prefer to see what they can do in this direction. Maybe go back to Hashino's original idea of a globe-trotting adventure, or a have the team constantly travel throughout Japan.

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>>382730540
worse couple. Ann is for joker only

>>382694307
>>382726226
But there is rain in P5 too.

>>382730738
You could very easily have them all be schoolmates on a train trip around Japan and use that as the central setting/theme
travelers
make their personas based on famous explorers etc.
train conductor velvet room attendant

>>382729456
It ends lewdly, anon. It ends with them having a one night stand as a means of trying to suppress the emotional pain, only to realize the magnitude of their mistake the next morning (despite how good it was at the time), and agreeing to never speak of it again and pretending like nothing is different. But things are different now, and they can't regain the pure friendship they once had no matter how hard they try.

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>>382730864
Ann is for me.

>>382730969
oh wait japan is tiny nevermind you could never stretch that into a full year
and going overseas would seem weird, they only go to hawaii because a lot of people already speak japanese there so it's not that hard to write around

but in sweden nobody would know what the fuck the MC is saying

>>382731063
Shit, that's pretty spot on.

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>>382696857

>>382731220
(Literal) Faggot is worse than Adachi

>>382731220
lmao not even close my dude

>>382731220
>"fuck off I'm out of SP" the fight

>>382731063
Holy fuck man, too real
This isnt my blog so no story time, but goddamn
I just want my Investigation Team to be pure ;_;

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Why is it that Persona threads on /v/ are so comfy while the one on /vg/ is pic related

>>382731870
these ones catch new people passing through so it doesn't become a stale repetition of the same thing

>>382731103
Pretty sure they'd have to drop the high school background, which also sort of is necessary if they want to go bigger in his direction.

>>382731870
Because Autism. Though I'd prefer if people stopped trying to dick measure installments because honestly, They're all great games

>>382731647
The IT are going to be just fine, nobody keeps their purity forever but they're already set up to be fine productive normal people. The only one I'm worried about is Yosuke.

>>382732065
Yeah i agree with this. Why cant we all just discuss the games without

>Liking X from Persona Y
>being this pleb

>>382731870
/vg/ isn't like that though. You're much more likely to find people calling somebody's favorite girl a slut on /v/ than /vg/

>>382732129
I think Yosuke will do all right. At the end of Golden, the shopping district begins a partnership with Junes and Yosuke will probably be a great middle man between the community and Junes.

People will grow to love him and his family. He'll find a nice girl and finally be assured of himself.

>>382732280
I never shit on anybody's choice of Persona girl because at some point I wanted to be balls deep inside of pretty much all of them

>>382732280
Anon, go look at /pg/ and compare it to this thread.

>>382732390
Really? even Ohya?

>>382732380
This, because Yosuke I genuinely enjoyed as a character along with the rest of the IT. I dont understand the hate towards him

>>382732380
I could just as easily see him becoming a kind of dejected lonely person as his friends move on to bigger and better things and he's managing a grocery store

I haven't played Arena or any of the spinoffs though so I don't know how much he matures after 4

>p5 poorly recycles plot and themes from p2
>people who pretend to be fans of the series shit on 2 but love 5

Ppl who only play 3/4/5 are fags

>>382732504
Maybe not her. She gives off red flags that I've seen before. I did only say "pretty much" all of them. some exceptions

>>382732507
I can totally see why people would dislike him. He comes off as a sarcastic pervert tryhard. But when you look past that, hes a lovable guy who would be fun to mess with.

>>382732507
/v/ lead me to believe that Yosuke was going to be a giant asshole, but he's actually pretty chill when Chie and Teddie aren't fucking with him.

>>382732542
>managing a grocery store
Junes is huge and he's the imminent heir to the Inaba branch. He's probably a shoe-in to be making a massive salary before he even hits 30

>>382732690
This is usually the case with all the right-hand-man characters. People overblow how stupid/dickish they are when if you actually play the game and pay attention they're just pretty chill guys who try their best to help out.