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Is rape too heavy of an issue for video games to tackle?

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Is rape too heavy of an issue for video games to tackle?
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>>382516591
Currently, yes. It's because in the west, we're more used to romantizising violence.
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Mediocre writers have been tackling heavy subjects since the dawn of time! Who cares if you can't pull it off, you can dang well attempt it. (suddenly remember's Bioshock Infinite's "racial themes")
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I Have No Mouth did it fine
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>>382516591
Only for SJW western cuck faggots who need to make everything into some kind of moral lesson.
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>>382516591
Life is Strange tackled it very well though
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It isn't when it's handled correctly. Alas no western game has if we keep getting shit story telling like LiS
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>>382516591
>Is rape too heavy of an issue for video games to tackle?
The fact that you brought this up is proof that you're a misogynistic and sexist.
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>>382516591
No because 13 million people bought a wii-u

that's 13 million people that nintendo raped
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>>382516591
if done tastefully then no.
I have a cousin who was raped like so many years ago and her life basically revolves around it. after a certain point people stop caring. If nobody moves pass the rape and it dominates from that point on you haven't really addressed rape you've only used it for shock value and a cheap reaction.
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What happens when you tell her that suicide is a sin?
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>>382516591
There can't be any sort of rape gameplay or even gameplay about stopping rape, so take that as you will.
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It's just way to uncomfortable and takes me out of it. You need some high quality writers to make it work and you won't find that in the vast majority of video games.
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>>382517245
she jumps off the roof
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Rape is not as big of a deal as it's been memed into being.

If you raped, using a condom, a woman who had NO social concept of rape, like she had never heard of rape before or knew it was a bad thing, she would be mildly annoyed at most. Therefore, isn't it society who's to blame for rape-related trauma?
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>>382516591
this is such a stupid question. why wouldnt video games be able to discuss rape? really? whats the objective reason for it? is monday really as day where men should wear ties? its fucking stupid. shut up, pls? :)
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>>382516591
It has about as much room in video games as in most other media like TV shows or movies or books.
People consume these things to get away from their shit real life.
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No
Play better games
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>>382516591
It's a subject the vast majority of people are simply ill equipped to tackle.

Doesn't mean it shouldn't be, but it'll come out shit 99% of the time.

Anyone ever notice that Korra was just a giant rape allegory?
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>>382516591
Maybe for the west it does.
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I think it can be tastefully done with good writing and also you play as the rapist.
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>>382516591

Any one else want to smell her feet? Just me?
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>>382516591
Can you let her die?
I saved her without even trying, literally lucky guessed the bible passage.
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>>382517521
based Sawyer
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>>382517691
I wanted her to die, though I knew the bible passages because I am christian, I chose her to die
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>>382517691
Yes. Ignore the phone call and tell her not to go to the police. I mean I wanted to save her but the bitch had no real proof and ditching Chloe is hella lame.
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>>382517762
>chloefags
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>>382517521
>rape as an intentional tool of war
>encouraging miscegenation amongst your soldiers
>not just straight up exterminating the enemy's civilian populace
Degenerates
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>>382517784
>being a Chloefag
You should literally kill yourself.
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Can I be a hardline Christian in this game?
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>>382518194
No thanks, you katefags should follow your retarded waifu's example.
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>>382518131

wheremaht dindu nuffin they were pure bois
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I'm sorry if I'm digressing from the topic of video games,
but what are some non video game stories or writing in general that analyzes the nature and concept of rape well?
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The writing in this game was the worst fucking shit. Why did it receive such high review scores? Really demonstrates that video game reviewers are all manchildren who haven't had any in-depth exposure to superior storytelling mediums.
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Easy way to get sympathy points since its one of those worse than death things.
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>>382516591
Rape is such a retarded taboo.
I murder, torture, kidnap, artificially inseminate and eat people all the time, but at least i am not a rapist.
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>>382518312
>follow your retarded waifu's example.
So we should overcome our trauma by accepting help from people close to us and recover to be stronger and better? Sounds neat.
At least we don't idolize blue haired, edgy, puppy killing slut.
Pic related, average Chloefag
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>>382516591
first for PRICEFIELD FOREVER
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>>382518413
Alien
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>>382516873
It was an emotional roller coaster.
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>>382516591
now post the JUST pic
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>>382518576
Hate on Chloe all you want, that's your problem. I don't even hate Kate, but she had no proof and I wasn't going to ditch Chloe to babysit.

Maybe it's possible to save her even if you fuck these two things up, but I couldn't manage it nor did I look up all the possible outcomes.
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>>382518639
If the ride was broken yeah, it had no depth or consequences as the ending was just a A or B choice with no relation to what you've been doing.
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Fuck I didn't expect the game to have shit like this, I thought it was just stupid tumblr bullshit.
How does the game lead you to choose the right options? Is it obvious? Cause I would have though 'suicide is a sin' was the obvious answer since she's a devoted christian.
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>>382518413
your life story
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>>382518480
>The writing in this game was the worst fucking shit. Why did it receive such high review scores?
Because no one can point why it was wrong with a valid argument
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>>382518131
Cook-Cook was renowned for his cruelty and degeneracy, which is impressive since the Fiends are the worst of the worst anyway.
Race isn't really a concept in Fallout, not how you're thinking anyway. Thanks to the war and the fact that everyone survived in small groups, there's more allegiance to your tribe or nation than your skin colour.
The closest comparison is Ghouls, Supermutants, and Synths, who are often used for racial allegories anyway
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No ground zeroes was horrible in not only depicting rape but also Guantanamo bay and also ruined my waifu although you could argue that the fifth chapter did the same
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>>382518694
>I wasn't going to ditch Chloe to babysit
By ditching you mean answer a fucking phone call that lasts less than a minute?
And by babysitting you mean helping a person in an emotional distress, who is showing all the sings of suicidal depression? Show that Chloefags are morally underdeveloped children, just like Chloe.
The only one who you are babysitting in the game is Chloe. Bitch is fucking dumb and helpless, even universe wants her dead.
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>>382518780
that's just bullshit, anon. Suicide is ok
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>>382517412
Only if you done goofed twice prior.
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Go play hellMOO
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>>382518131
Nazi raped and pillaged also
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>>382518962
>Not preferring SECRET AGENT PACIFICA OCEAN to boring moeblob Paz
Still a shame about the vagina bomb, who fucking knows what Kojima was thinking
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>>382518390
>>382519114
Never said they didn't
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>>382516591
Silent Hill 2 did it well.
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>>382518972
I didn't answer but I assumed Chloe wanted me with her. Babysitting her. We're friends and all but when I'm with my bestie sometimes you gotta just prioritize. What do I get out of always kissing Kate's ass? I gave her advice. She didn't like it. I was always helping her, erasing her room board, telling people to stop teasing her with the video but because I skip one fucking phone call when I'm finally with my bestie she goes apeshit.
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>>382519124
>kojima
>thinking
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>>382518962
GZ added tremendously to Paz's character
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>>382519212
>Chloe
>bestie
That's where you went wrong anon-kun. She's a narcissistic sociopath
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>>382516591
I wish it could, but it seems the culture now is fucked. Either the writer who gets a chance to do it simply doesn't understand the situation rape can bring and how dialouge and actions would occur. Then if someone did have a grasp at the situation either it would get backlash due to the public not being use to rape being handled in a more realistic or at the very least reasonable way or on the other hand SJWs or similar groups will attack.
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>>382518837
>Thanks to the war and the fact that everyone survived in small groups, there's more allegiance to your tribe or nation than your skin colour.
Where the fuck do you think "skin color" came from? Racism is just ethnocentrism, something that wouldn't suddenly disappear if everything fell apart. In fact, it would do the opposite, as the machinery of the modern state is no longer in place to indoctrinate people into placing the modern, diverse state above innate, genetic self-interest.
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>>382516731
That was before this new age of cuckoldry the USA is currently going through
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>>382519212
I guess you've never delt with trauma in your life. If a person who was raped last week calls you, you answer just to find out that everything is ok. By the way, telling her to wait for evidence was the right thing, so cudos there
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>>382516591
I would have rape her too desu. But I wouldn't stop at just once, I would rape her untill she likes it and then marry her.
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>>382518583
Ymir and Historia
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>>382519445
I figured the game was giving me the choice of either going to help Kate or staying with Chloe. But waiting for evidence was actually correct? I thought for sure it was wrong because Kate seemed so upset with it, but I did think it was best for her.

Oh well. Can't save em all and I really didn't wanna cheat saving her.
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>>382517476
There is a certain amount of mental/emotional trauma that comes from forcing things on another person against their will regardless of whatever preconceptions of said things they have.

That said we should legalize rape of sluts anyway simply to see how tumblr reacts.
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>>382516968
Dont go down the same alley you got raped in

Never Switch
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No, it can be handled. It's just hard to effectively handle as it requires competence in writing.


How is Life is Strange by the way? Can I get the blue haired girl to Fuck off and be Christbuddies with the blonde?

>>382518962

GZ was great for Paz's character. She had zero potential left in the story. And this is coming from someone whose favorite MGS girl is Pacifica.

>>382519002

Suicide is immoral.
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>>382519363
Skin colour doesn't matter when it's no longer a clear indicator of what group that person belongs to. I
In the games there's racism from civilised people towards tribals, but it's based on your mannerisms (or family names) more than appearance because there hasn't been enough time for any real visual divergence.
One exception is the Shi because they were originally one ethnic group, but current factions derived from a single enthic group are very rare
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>LiS
>rape themes
It wasn't rape because Kate got what she wanted.
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Was it a black?
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>>382520120
if it was black she wouldn't be sad, would she?
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>>382520120
>>382520363
Oh shit
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>>382518731
But it makes sense to the context of the story, that's what matters.
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>>382519992
>Skin colour doesn't matter when it's no longer a clear indicator of what group that person belongs to.
Except it does, as ethnic preference is innate. Regardless, the disparate groups would have either mixed or self-segregated, and therefore produced distinct traits that differentiate the in-group from outsiders.
>In the games there's racism from civilized people towards tribals, but it's based on your mannerisms (or family names)
It's hardly racism if there's no genetic aspect. Its just cultural bigotry.
>more than appearance because there hasn't been enough time for any real visual divergence.
Visual divergence doesnt take geological epochs, the modern mestizo is quite different from pre-colombus native americans.
>One exception is the Shi because they were originally one ethnic group, but current factions derived from a single enthic group are very rare
Because the devs were clueless about human behavior without modern comfort and society and just projected the modern progressive fantasy into their game. In a pre-civilization (or post in this case) society, conflict between groups is essentially racial warfare, as any isolated group would quickly develop a homogeneous identity. In the game's case, it would either be interbreeding to the point that distinctions are eradicated or the non-dominant members suppressed. Any interaction between two groups would then become a conflict between clans or coalitions of closely-related clans that formed tribes. Both the NCR and the Legion demonstrated two methods of overcoming this, either through the universal suffrage of citizens and propaganda appealing to an allegiance to ideals, or forced conquest and intermixing of groups to the point of fungibility.
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>>382516591
The west loves their mindless gore, violence, and murder, but sex is a no no. Think of the children, OP!
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>>382516968
>I-I don't know why!
>I just decided to cut through that alley on my way home an-and I- oh God.
>Oh God I bought a wii-u.
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>>382516591

I'm not entirely sure I see the point of including rape in a video game. It's like the girl with the dragon tattoo movie. The rape scene was randomly placed and served no purpose other than having a rape scene.
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>>382516968
That's more than holocaust.
The nintendomor is officially the worst crime against humanity.
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>>382521070
What if it's a QTE?
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>>382521070
Frankly, you can say that about a lot of things. Sex is an integral part of humanity, and life itself. If talented people wanted to work it in and wouldn't be lambasted for it, I'm sure it'd be possible to do so in an interesting way.

Even if it wasn't possible to make a fun experience out of it in normal games, there would undoubtedly be another side of the industry devoted to it, similar to how it is now in japan.
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>>382521275
That changes things
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>>382518131

>implying rape and extermination are mutually exclusive
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>>382521670
wise old man
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>>382521670

Remember when US Marines saw a gook who appeared to be stranded on an island, waving a white flag, so they decided to rescue him... only to have other gooks open fire from a hidden machine gun nest?

If it ain't White, it ain't Right.
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>>382521670
>>382522015
Baased Japs
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>>382516591
So, what do Proverbs 21:15 and Matthew 11:28 read?

I consider myself Christian actually.
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>>382522015
You see an American with a burger, you shoot him.
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Jesus, the Hot Topic vape edgy stank of this thread...
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>>382522074
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+11:28&version=NIV
>“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs+21:15&version=NIV
>When justice is done, it brings joy to the righteous but terror to evildoers.
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>>382519367
>>382519367
god, shut up with your alt right bullshit. just cause you have a fetish of seeing your wife get fucked doesnt mean we have to hear about it.
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>>382516591
That fucking face texture. Holy fuck, that's some Quake 1 shit right there.
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>>382522424
Ah that one. Thanks famalam.

My bible is actually near my desktop, next to my vodka stash. I'm not particularly like searching up bible line online.
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>>382522703
I literally highlighted portions of your post, right-clicked, and clicked Search DuckDuckGo, and had the answer pop up without needing click on a link.
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>>382516591
No. It's too hard for bad writers though.
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>>382517375
This.
We have nuclear bombs, but nobody fucking uses them.
You can make a game about rape, but why the fuck would you?

People focus on to much negative shit these days. They have no creativity, shock & awe are low dangling fruits.
>time to boot up this videogame
>that tries to goad me into getting emotional over horrid shit I don't want to think about

Think I will just stick to having regular fun.
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>>382522512
Back to redit you leftnigger cuckold
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>>382516591
>The homo is preaching the bible's laws.
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>>382516591

>there are people that couldn't save her

i mean i know the majority of /v/ is autistic but come on
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>>382524334
>christians
>not total hypocrites
Pick at most one
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>>382523207
>You can make a game about rape, but why the fuck would you?
Why wouldn't you...?
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>>382524861
I prefer love to come naturally through consent
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>>382524924
Well, you're either a gay male, into 2D, or out of luck.
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>>382524334
Is the main girl economically homosexual? As in having a homosexual orientation or in a relationship?

>>382524398
Don't be stupid, Anon.
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>>382525090
>economically homosexual

What the fuck does that even mean?
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>>382525090
Go back to /pol/, worm
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You can't rape what isn't real

and video game characters are not real.
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>>382525196
I'll eyerape you
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>>382525090
Autocorrect failure. Sorry.
"Is the main girl actually homosexual?"
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Was she raped, /v/?
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No, it can be handled really well; it's just difficult to do well due to the sensitivity of the topic and how easy it is to completely fuck up.

>>382519367
>>382524239
Are you OK anon? You seem pretty obsessed with cuckoldry. If cuckolding gets you off that's fine, but it doesn't mean you have to tell everyone else about how much you love it.
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>>382525178
No, m8.
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>>382516591
Nope. Only retards reacted at the rapey shit in New Vegas.
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Rape is no big deal.
We have murder in games, which is far worse than rape. Even some implied torture.
Rape supposedly happens to 30% of women. If it is so common, why hide it?
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>>382525840
Most people also don't fetishize murder, you sick fuck.
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>>382519196
You implied otherwise with your picture, quite blatantly.
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>>382525589
kek dumb commies
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>>382525930
You sure about that?

Also, when was fetishizing the issue ever?
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>>382525930
Most people aren't black
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>>382525274
I think she was but she is a tough cookie
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>>382525274
Of course. Not like getting raped can break her that much, though.
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>>382516591
It's okay because I let the whole town get raped in the end.
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>>382518731

Regardless of how the ending was handled i think the initial idea with kate was good
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>>382525935
No
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>>382516591
No, Rapelay was great.
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>>382525090
She is all the homo
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>>382522015
That's just low, might aswell shoot doctors. I thought gooks were all about muh samurai honor.
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>>382516591
Not if done well, the problem is that there is nobody in the industry that does not use rape as a kind of drama device when they can't think of anything else.
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>>382516591
life is strange sucks shit, they shouldn't have tackled anything
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>>382516591
Japanese indie devs manage just fine to tackle it.
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>>382525196
delet
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>>382518780
Did you really think shaming her out of suicide with the idea of sin was a good idea???
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>>382528761
That whole shtick went away when they embraced western ideals.
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>>382528634
what the fuck
this looks so weird
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Reminder that Noah Gervais does not like VTMB because it has a female rape victim.
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>>382529992
I don't even know this nobody.
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>>382529992
>VTMB
>female rape victim

Who?
Venus?
She did it for money and probably enjoyed it, the slut.
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>>382529984
uncanny valley?
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>>382516591
you can't waifu rape victims, anon
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>>382516968
it's not rape if you ask for it
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>>382530165
No - Therese/Jeanette.
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as long as its an evil white man doing the raping
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>>382531121
Can't rape the willing.
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>>382516731
That's a book idiot. The reason video games handle things poorly is because they have teams of writers, not just one. Writing a good story is not something you dob with tons of people working on it
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>>382518972
is that the new expansion pack for EEnE Online? I forgot this game existed desu
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>>382529291
They learned so much from their ancestor >>382521670
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>>382516591
>what is Rapelay
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legitimate question here, why can games cover topics like political torture, murder, genocide, industrialized war, but not "rape." rape doesn't even kill or really hurt the woman???? like i get that it's an uncomfortable situation for sure, but having someone break into your apartment with a gun to steal your shit would be much more damaging to your psyche.. no idea why rape gets so much "ohhhh shit don't talk about that!!!" when there are much worse things out there
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>>382532123
Made foreigner, whose is not their intended target audience to shitting that game and made Illusion and other erogame devs scared the fuck out.
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177 tackled it very well
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Would you?
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>>382516591
>Dont kill yourself!
>Why?
>It's a sin!
Quality writing.
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Did Marlok rape Nina in Breath of fire 4?
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>>382516591
Neither of those are about suicide.
Matthew 11:28 is Jesus saying come to me all who are weary and burdened and I will give you rest.
Proverbs is just a bunch of proverbs and has nothing about suicide in it.
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I couldn't finish life is strange, it was just boring and I stopped around the start of chapter 4.
I know the final choice is between murdering hundreds of innocent people or not, but what else happens? Do you end up finding that chick?
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>>382532435
I'm gonna need sauce my man
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>>382532827
I think she kills herself if you reply that
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>>382525161
It means saying you are gay for the pity money when you really aren't. Pretty popular for TV show hosts repeat they are gay.
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>>382533815
she's so cute
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>>382532819
Who's the owner of this fat butt?
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>>382516591
Not if the game isn't mediocre shit.
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>>382516968
It's funny because it's true.
It happened to me.
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>>382534210
Ai shinozaki, no known porn of her, what a waste
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>>382516591
Talking about rape and gaming, did anyone see the film Elle? Can't believe the makers of Styx agreed to have their game on it. I think I'll forever know it as the rape game now that appeared in that film.
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>>382534887
favorite graviture link?
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>>382528634
you havent done a goofy smile when your gf looks at you?
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>>382516591
No, of course not. Nothing is too heavy for games. Why would it be? If the argument is that somebody could be triggered by rape content, the same applies that somebody could get triggered by murdering people, which is very common theme in games.
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>>382534414
Hello fellow victim
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>>382516968
Library was poor, but it was worth it for the times spent playing with friends in smash, mario kart, and monster hunter.
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>>382516591
>That sfm where max gets executed then buttfucked
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>>382526398
I remember a gay indie film like this
the gay guy was cooking and his gay bf hugs him from behind and starts humping his ass and then it cuts to them french kissing each other
they don't even look gay
they look like those muscular pornstars
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>>382536030
>they don't even look gay
>they look like those muscular pornstars
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>>382516591
It's only rape if she doesn't want it.

Kate clearly wanted it.
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>>382536153
most gay dudes i know look like twigs or fatasses
like CWC and that gay speedrunner
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>>382535121
None, I fap to tentacle rape porn, that does nothing to me
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>>382536538
I dunno. Adam Sessler does shemale porn, and he's decently muscular. He ain't bara-tier, but I still wouldn't pick a fight with him.
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>>382533126
You find out that the chick has been killed. The teacher is a photographer with an obsession with fear, so drugged people and took photos of them when they were afraid and confused.
Nathan's family have a barn with a sort of modern living quarters, that the teacher used as his base.
Nathan killed the girl, not the teacher. He either didn't mean to do it, or he felt very guilty about it.
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>>382516591
Japan's been making rape games for like 30 years
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>>382516591
Like anything else in fiction, it requires skill to handle effectively. If you get a faggot like Anthony Burch to write about rape, of course it's going to come off as heavy handed and leave a bad taste in your mouth.
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>>382531407
If was also a game you fag.

>all games are written by multiple writers

You're a fucking idiot
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>>382537545
Did the market give consent for such games being produced?
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>>382517762
>christian
>chose her to die
costanza.jpg
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>>382537941
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQ7WhIguGzo
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>>382517476
>If you raped, using a condom, a woman who had NO social concept of rape, like she had never heard of rape before or knew it was a bad thing, she would be mildly annoyed at most

Sasuga autismal kissless virgin.
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>>382524239
Sush loser
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>>382537941
>chromatic aberration

STOP

STOP

S T O P
T
O
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>>382516591
>Is rape too heavy of an issue for video games to tackle?
getting killed, your guts splattered everywhere, your limbs severed, etc. is not heavy but RAPE IS HEAVY BECAUSE IT HURTS WOMENS FEE FEES

kill yourself you faggot cuck
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>>382516656

fpbp
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>>382538865
You gotta believe in Hell first.
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>>382516591
>Is rape too heavy of an issue for video games to tackle?
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>>382516591
>videogame
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>>382525274

Yeah, but it's ok, Bernie Sanders says women like being raped and fantasizing about being raped...

https://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/05/29/bernie-sanders-disowns-1972-article-on-womens-fantasies-of-rape/

...even though western society is a rape culture that we have to destroy, and we have to teach little boys not to rape, but women are strong and independent and don't need a man's help, which is why they need our help to change the world from a patriarchy to a matriarchy, even though the genders are equal.
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>>382538310
You do realize children who are "abused" sexually don't get any trauma until a horde of social workers tell them what they went through was tragic and shit
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>>382538865
sins are a lie concocted by the devil to lure people from God's path. love thy neighbor and forgive their trespasses
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>>382516591
no, but games that have it are sold elsewere
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>>382516591
We can't even talk about pipis and vejayjays and you seriously ask for rape?
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>>382525840
worldwide?
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Rape is a despicable thing and I'd rather watch a man die in a videogame rather than having to witness an innocent women being raped
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>>382516591
>games need to grow up
>NOT LIKE THAT!
Yes it is.
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>>382540058
You sound like one of those pussy leftists who says shit like this, and then one day they find 10gb of rape porn on his computer during a pedophilia sting operation.
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>>382539557
You do realize that kids who are abused are told by their abusers "this is normal" right? Or because they are kids they just assume it is, because they are fucking kids.
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>>382530654
Timing on the smile.
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>>382539732
This game was much better.
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>>382516591
If she was not raped, would she have any value as a character?
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how is rape an issue? it's natural human behaviour and is commonplace.
Stop stigmatizing rape.
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>>382521179

Sorry, but nothing is bad as the holocaust, nothing.
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>>382540397
I'll need sauce on that. It's believable from known examples but has anyone actually proved it?
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>>382517476
How the fuck do you know how a girl would react to being raped even if she had never heard about the concept? People don't like having things forced on them, even if nobody has ever told them it's bad.
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>>382540553
Yes it was
best girl aswell
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>>382528761
Samurai honor is very different from yuropean chivalry. If you read the Hagakure and other typical jap military texts it's really fucked up.
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>>382518413
Catcher in the Rye. Bonus point for sister raping. It's the only single merit of the book though.
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>>382522512
>>382525454
>unironically supports Marxist Socialism
How's freshman philosophy coming along anon?
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>>382524239
>>382541370

>/v/ - Video Games
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>>382516591
I never got the dialogue option where you can quote the bible, the fuck?
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>>382532435
Because plebs identify with their body image very much, and women even more.
Even direct bodily impairment (even death) become secondary to feeling your body image destroyed, not even talking about comparatively abstract shit like robbery. Getting your head smashed causes more physical pain and risk of actual injury than being raped, but it will be considered a lesser offense.
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>>382516591
>games
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>>382541747
Probably depends on choices you made earlier.

Considering I pissed off Kate at almost every turn, I'm not surprised I didn't get too many opportunities.

Can you blame me? I'm looking for that /u/ and Kate doesn't seem like the pastor's rebellious daughter type to me.
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In the alternate timeline part of the game was Max supposed to be aware of Chloe's condition or not? It was unclear because you can talk about the accident with her like you don't know about it, however there's also a letter from Max's parents regarding it.

Would have been interesting if Chloe found Max's "Oh god what the fuck happened to you?" reaction strange.
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>>382531407

>that's a book idiot!

Somebody can't use google properly.
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>>382542314
Based on what I saw in Chapter 5, it seems like Max goes on auto-pilot until she returns back to the point in time where she first timehopped, not really seeming to have any memories of what Auto-Max was up to.
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>>382516731
>rape
it wasn't rape and she loves it
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>>382542314
Read the SMS. She was well aware.
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>>382542497
Not really auto-pilot. She just continues existing and then dies, to be replaces by the other max. Like everyone else every time she rewinds.
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>>382516591
>install free game
>corralled into a public bathroom
>examine the tampon dispenser
>"no thanks, I'm good to flow!"
>immediately uninstall the game, punch a hole in the wall and beat my girlfriend
How do you faggots stand this garbage?
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>>382516591
It's not that the issue is too heavy for video games, it's that the audience is too immature to handle it. There's not a single gaming community online which I would discuss rape with. /v/, of course, is at the very bottom of the list of potential communities, mainly because of the way anonymity gets teenagers so excited.
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I haven't finished the game yet, but I think I've guessed the ending based on the end of Chapter 3.

Max uses the butterfly picture to go back in to the bathroom at the beginning of the week and lets Chloe get shot?
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>>382542656
>How do you faggots stand this garbage?
they dont stand it, theyre just paid marketers. this thread gets made all day every day and the mods do nothing about it.
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>>382543287
No.

She rips the photo so that Chloe lives forever. Fuck you.
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>>382543638
The universe wants this chick dead, anon. She probably fell down the mountain on the way down if you chose that option.
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>>382516591
> game forces you to be a religiousfag

fucking dropped
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>>382518131
It always amazes me how much Hitler looks like a Jew in color.
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>>382516591
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>>382516591
>Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.

I don't think that's a very good thing to tell someone considering suicide.
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>>382543920
personally i love the idea that if you tore up the photo, that's not the end of the universe trying to expunge chloe. chloe and max's roadtrip bringing untold destruction to everywhere they visit is prime sequel material.
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>>382543920
>>382544173
The universe can try all it wants. So far, it's 0 and 4.
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>>382537941
>Shadman
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>>382516591
>tfw u saved kate at first try
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Rape isnt even an issue.
It needs to be decriminalized.
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>>382516591
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>>382516591
just need a lot of comedy relief
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>>382539501
>article: "Person disowns writing saying [thing]"
>your post: "Oh yeah, person at current time says [thing]"

How does it feel to be the ass cancer killing human civilization?

kys.
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>>382519992
You're an idiot.

One of the things I hate about post-apocalyptic games is how they pursue this nonsensical idea that race wouldn't matter in the event of an apocalypse event. Bullshit. It matters today, in spite of large scale attempts to use the media to create a "raceless" zeitgeist, on some implicit level people still self-segregate and display in-group preference even if they aren't aware of it. You can bet your ass race would be even more important (and explicit, in lieu of any modern faux pas' around the subject) if the nukes started raining down or what have you.

NB: If anything there should be less non-whites in post-apoc games because nukes will hit urban centers first and foremost. And that's where most non-European populations are located in the west.
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>>382545229
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>>382544937
can we meet up anon?
I want to hold a knife to your throat and fuck your dry asshole until it looks like it's been through a meat grinder
it wouldn't be an issue for you so it's fine
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>>382545552
What are you, gay?
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>>382545620
yeah
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No, I wish it was handled more. In realistic settings it can come off as trying a bit too hard. Though in that game it was actually done pretty well. I'd prefer to see it more in fantasy settings though. Like finding a bunch of people chained up naked in an orc/goblin/kobold filled dungeon in some grimdark RPG.
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>>382545283

It depends on the setting.

In an immediate post-apocalypse setting (i.e., fall of civilization only happened a few years ago), manpower and skills would be more important than race. You wouldn't actively discriminate against the only guy who knows first aid or some other useful survival skill.
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>>382517412
Really? Everything I told her seemed to please her quite a bit then I said that and she did a flip.
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>>382516705
What about shitting all over the lore because Ken Levine thought multiverse theory was magic and cool because he understands nothing of it so fuck everything lets do it.
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>>382537941
When will Shadman's sinful hand be stopped?
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>>382545919
he draws whatever he wants and it's actually kinda admirable in a weird way
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>>382545882

>complaining when someone takes personal liberties with multiverse theory


AHAHAHAHA
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>>382545829
Certainly possible. I don't think it would be hardline divisions, but I think the groups that would emerge as tenable polities would be largely homogeneous. Self-segregation is just too pronounced.
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>>382518780
I got it wrong too but I think it's pretty obvious that by paying attention to her segments in the game and exploring/reading shit you find out what she wants to hear.
Even if LiS was made for the tumblr crowd I think it's a good game. It's just not made for my demographic. I see no issue with making a game about a hipster lesbian girl for hipsters.
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>>382517476
Dude, rape is FORCEd sexual intercourse. Even if she didn't knew what rape is, she probably know what being forced to do something is. And who the fuck likes being forced to do something.
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>>382517691
the story would be better if you let her die desu
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>>382517476
Wow, you're stupid.
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>>382546150
It's like being forced to eat your veggies, not a big deal.
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I raped a 12 year old girl (did time for it too) and honestly I don't see what the big deal is. I wasn't traumatised by it at all. Others are just weak and unworthy of having opinions. I'm all for rape in games, especially if it's your char doing it.
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>>382518131
Dude, if the soldiers don't rape they will end up fucking each other, what more degenerate than being a faggot with guns?
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i rape all the time in CoC
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>>382546346
green text now
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>>382546346

You do realize I'm forwarding this to the FBI and local authorities, right?
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>>382546672
>did time for it

I think they already know, anon.
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>>382546672
>did time for it too
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>>382544081
I try to stray away from porn games because I destroy my dick playing them. Like I fapped to literally every encounter in MGQ and beat the whole thing over the course of 4 days. I really want to play the Rance games though. Is the porn that frequent in it? My cock is strong but I never want to put it through that again.
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I want to commit a double dare
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>>382524334
The only thing that may be anti gay in christianity is same sex marriage not being allowed, still, you can be gay if you want to, suck cocks and have sex with your anus all you want. Jesus Christ teached love, mercy and forgiveness, even for your enemies, there is no hate in christianity and being humble is the way, since everyone is a sinner.
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>>382525196
Is she from Rival Schools? Never played Rival Schools but I believe there is a girl with motorcycling clothes in that game.
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>>382539557
What sort of fucked up pedo logic is this?
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>>382525274
She is a big girl, probably reversed the situation and they felt rapped afterwards.
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>>382517476
Yh she totes wouldn't think its bad having some dick out of nowhere forced into her.
Ever tried to have sex with a girl who isnt wet? Try it, see how she reacts.
Easy for you to talk when your not on the recieving end.
I suggest you leave it up to people who actually got raped to determine how bad it actually is. You cant know and therefore cant be an authority on it.
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Rape should only be a crime if she's a virgin. Dumb sluts let guys enter them all the time. The only difference in rape is that she wouldn't fuck him cuz hes ugly or something. Idk why their personal taste should send someone to jail for a long time lmao.
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No, it isn't. Just like anything else it depends on the tone of the story and the competency of the writers.

Anyway, I have several questions.
>Why is Chloe's death preordained by all of space-time and preventing it in any capacity will result in a massive fucking hurricane to wipe out the nearest town. But preventing Kate's suicide is completely fine, since it was obvious she was on that downward spiral from almost the start of the game?
>Was Kate actually raped and the writers were too chickenshit to call it that, or was she only felt up and recorded?
>Did Jefferson rape his captives before murdering them or was he just a weird fuck?
>Why did Kate go to a college party and get drunk and shit if by every other metric she's a good little christian girl and president of the abstinence club?
>Is Chloe supposed to come across as borderline or is the writing for her just shit?
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>>382525589
>basing your ideology and way of life in a modern philosofer.

Please, tell me one single math equation this faggot gave to make a better understandment of the world around us.
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>>382547368
He's right though. It's natural for a child and adult to play with each other. As long as you don't hurt her, it's all good. Most kids enjoy it.
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>>382547570
>glasses
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>>382546346
>I raped a 12 year old
>But don't worry I'm okay

You're so strong
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>>382547570
>white woman
>glasses
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>play aa2
>give everyone the rape trait and the exploitable trait
>nobody rapes anyone
Still mad they can't be rapists that get raped
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>>382517476
But that's like saying having sex with a child isn't rape because they have no concept of rape or sex at all. Regardless, the child is still extremely scarred because something happened to them that shouldn't and now when they grow older they will feel it is their fault it happened.
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>>382534209
The term is phat not fat
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Name things film can talk about that videogames aren't allowed to talk about.
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>>382540553
>Sequel is way better
>but first one got translated instead
Fucking faggot translators. He better be working on translating the sequel right now.
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>>382548007
Pay rates for the actors.
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As long as it's used respectfully and maturely. Usually when it's not done right it can feel really forced because the hack writers couldn't think of an original way to provoke feels/shock.

When it's done right, it has quite an impact, but when it's done wrong, it's just embarrassing.
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>>382531407
Nope, there are games that have just one writer but what I believe that happens is that it is really hard to convey storytelling into a game. They then hire a well known writer or pick up a team of writers but do they have any idea of how is the process of making a game? I believe mostly do not, most of them even stay away from the whole process and only writes using the guidelines.
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>>382517476
How stupid of you
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>>382547512
>it's natural to fuck my kid
you keep telling yourself i'm sure the law agrees with you
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>>382547619
>>382547887
Well. She's Spanish. What the fuck is this anyway?
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>>382547619
>>382547887
>>>/LGBT/
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>>382548240
I'm a freeman of the land. The corrupted governments draconian laws don't apply to me
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>>382548353
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>>382518962
Skull face is not only guilty of participating in rape but child rape. He makes Paz rape chico doesn't he?
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>>382548284
Yeah, she's also way too fucking short if she's reaching that much. I have no interest in women shorter than me and I'm 6'0"
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>>382548240
Let me guess, you're an american and think being attracted to 17 year olds is pedophilia too
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>>382548460
It's okay to be gay.
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>>382520017
what did she want? Didn't get very far before I found the game too boring
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>>382547462

Jefferson didn't rape the girls he took photos of. He didn't murder them either; he only attempted to murder Max because she found out the truth.

The other shit is from the writers running out of time/budget as far as I know. I mean the whole story makes no fucking sense with the ending.

If you weren't supposed to save Chloe, why did you get time travel powers? The sacrifice Chloe ending is the same thing as if the story never happened. And the foreshadowing with the Native American land and the Prescotts somehow knowing about the storm was completely dropped.
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>>382517476
Actually, this is an interesting idea. Is rape such a traumatizing experience because of how much we've mystified and stigmatized sex across the ages or would it hurt people to the same extent even if they belonged to a society where sporadic sex is a extremely common thing?
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>>382548459
No, he makes chico fuck Paz, it is a really fucked up situation because chico is seeing Paz being raped, starts crying and gets a bonner, Skullface notices it and pick up chico. There he is, dick erect, reluctant, them Paz says to him that it is OK so I really don't know if this is rape.
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>>382535474
Did I miss the group meeting for people who bought a Wii U?
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>>382548007
Only a few things, but that's due to a broader capable audience. Just about anyone can sit through an hour and a half film but not everyone can invest 5-8 hours into a game. Therefore, the video game audience pool is a lot smaller and so developers have to cater to that crowd. Not touching on these subjects (rape, killing children, detailed gore et al) allows for a higher amount of potential buyers.
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>>382517476
How can you be so sexually repressed that you start to convince yourself that rape is okay?
Christ some girls just need to take one for society and have sex with some of the fat ugly virgins so less freak shows end up resorting to rape in order to prevent themselves from becoming a wizard.
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>>382540295
>>382540397
>>382547368

Well, see the thing here is that adults fucking 12 year olds was not uncommon or unlawful 100 years ago. The difference was that it was socially acceptable and that the kids knew what was happening. It wasn't rape. Its like how two 12 year olds fucking each other isn't rape and doesn't break them.

Molestation and rape fucks you up, but if a 12 year old fucks a 30 year old willingly and such a thing isn't considered horrible by the world around them, they'll be fine.

The big problem here is the way that most people refuse to accept that anyone under an arbitrary age is a sexual being. Why do you think we have so many teen mothers? Once they hit puberty, kids will start being interested in sex, thats a biological fact. And they will fuck each other regardless of how much their parents either want to ignore it or stop it. And I don't see why the awkward genital flailing of two 13 year olds would be fine for them, but the moment they do it with someone over another age it destroys their brains.

Of course, the big question here is "Why would you want to fuck teenagers?" They're dumb, emotionally unstable, needy and irrational. You'd be better off fucking a dog.
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>>382546150
it's not that big of a deal. Sluts that get raped should just tolerate it for a few minutes. Not worth locking someone up the rest of his life for over a few minutes of her mild discomfort cuz he was ugly and she didn't like him or some shit like that.
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No.
In fact it was even a subject for a shounen anime last season.
>MC and FeMC hate each other
>Standard action segments
>MC and FeMC grow to like one another
>Something happens which causes MC to nearly die protecting FeMC
>They fall in love
>Well-known to be an item the best way middle-schoolers can be considered
>Suddenly big bad pops up
>Releases MC's uncontrollable destructive power
>Tells FeMC that MC will die unless she has sex with him
>FeMC agrees and she gets raped
>Viewership gets reduced to a tenth of what it was
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>>382548817
sounds a lot like Paz is just trying to sound reassuring to chico to calm him down because he knows how stressful the whole thing is. Still very messed up though
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>>382524334

fixed for you
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>>382548978
>You'd be better off fucking a dog.

Sup Toady.
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Great here we go, /a/'s come in and is trying to lecture us on why raping children is okay, again.
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>>382549217
>/a/
>being interested in 3D children
Fucking newfag
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>>382548978
>Well, see the thing here is that adults fucking 12 year olds was not uncommon or unlawful 100 years ago
maybe not then but it is now. We have a better understanding of psychology and how things like this effect developing minds. That's why sex with children under a certain age is considered a criminal action
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>>382548459
>>382548817
>>382549169
how did they go from this to phantom pain?

now i didnt hate phantom pain as much as some others here but theres a jarring difference in quality from GZ writing and TPP writing
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>>382549416
because it was a way for players who went out of their way to get some more backstory for skullface to see him set up as a more deplorable villain. TPP assumes you played ground zeroes so they didn't want to do another rape subplot.
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>>382547237
Get out of here deceiver the bible clearly says all homosexuality is wrong
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>>382549535
Or maybe TPP is just trash.
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>>382516591
Play more Japanese games fool.
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>>382549569
it says "if a man lies with another man as he does with a woman, it is an abomination"
Says nothing about lesbians in the bible.
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>>382545235
>makes claim in 1972
>doesn't disown claim until shamed into doing so in 2016

How much weed money did you send Bernie?
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>>382516591
>>382516854
None of the characters were raped.
They skirted around the issue very carefully.
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>>382516591
>"It is joy to the just to do judgement:but destruction shall be to the workers of iniquity."
vs
>"Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest."
?????
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>>382545283
Post apocalyptic setting are built upon the ashes of the old world. While culture can be reset to zero, all those racially diverse people stay. Seeing people of different races coexisting becomes the norm in those arising civilizations or tribes. The feuds are established against other tribes who choose to rebuild society in different ways and against the new mutants who are far from human but still have intelligence.
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>>382549835
You double nigger word twister, man is used for both sexes
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WHY THE FUCK does this shitty board need to have threads about this godawful tumblrina novel for faggots EVERY SINGLE DAY?

I'm getting tired of hiding this garbage.
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>>382548472
No I'm British, and being attracted to people under 16 is paedophilia.
Fucking your kid is abuse and incest.
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>>382516591
>TFW never read the bible before
I was gonna play this game too but I don't want to have to Google bible passages just to make a choice.
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>>382516742
You should've put more buzzwords there, buddy. Other than that, edgy/10
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>>382550140
Because it's a fun game, and a prequel is coming out soon.
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>>382549348
>We have a better understanding of psychology and how things like this effect developing minds

No we don't because psychology is literally nothing but people attempting to put a faux-science coating on moralizing. Psychology, from its inception, has had literally NO objective measures because it bases its ideas about what is deviant and what is normal around the morals of the time. And the morals of any particular time are not objective either.

Back in the day, a woman having sexual desires was female hysteria, a mental disease. Homosexuality was until recently considered a mental defect, but NOW, its considered totally acceptable. In fact, calling into question its acceptability is the defect. And for literally no reason other than shifting social norms. There was never any objective evidence of it being a disease, yet it was until they just decided otherwise. The treatments and causes of mental illnesses have been wildly various and none of them based on anything more than "Well, we observed like 40 different cases and 15 or so of them seem to have this in common"

I want you to tell me why two 17 year olds fucking is totally ok and doesn't cause any problems for them, but a 17 and a 20 year old fucking is the most hideous crime possible. Hell, not even that. A 17 year old and an 18 year old. Exactly what changes in the brain chemistry of every single 17 year old that makes them able to have sex? And why is it different from whatever changes in their brains at 21 to let them drink? And Why is owning a gun considered to require less mental development than drinking?

Its all completely arbitrary guess work. The 18 year old ageline isn't even universal between states, let alone in the rest of the world. 14 year olds can have sex without losing their minds if its their choice. And I see no reason to think that the age of their partner would matter so long as it was their choice.

>BUT THEY CAN'T CONSENT!
Why do you think that?
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>>382550392
God I want to rape her so bad. Guess she chose to be ugly now to avoid me taking what's mine
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>>382550313
The solution to that question is found in game, and easily. It's just that people don't bother looking at their environment, and then get bitten in the ass later.
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>>382550597
/tv/ pls go
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>>382550507
Holy shit you're unironically defending pedophilia you incel degenerate fuck.
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>>382516731
So did Phantasmagoria. Harvester went a bit too far though. That girl was 6 or 7 at best.
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>>382550507
>want you to tell me why two 17 year olds fucking is totally ok and doesn't cause any problems for them, but a 17 and a 20 year old fucking is the most hideous crime possible. Hell, not even that
Is that actually a crime in the US? In the UK a 16 year old can have sex with anyone older than that age
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>>382540914
I love the stray Jew who HAS to reinforce that the six gorillion are the worst thing that has ever happened to humanity, doesn't matter if it was just a joke.

Jewish neuroticism never ceases to amaze me.
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Who /rescued her on the first try/?
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>>382549052
What anime.
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>>382550751
I don't think he is necessarily so much as he's arguing why times change.
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>>382550597
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>>382516656
savage truth
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>>382517476
Yes, society is to blame. Before organized society. Or among animals, rape is just a regular occurrence. Because all that mattered was perpetuating the species. Not courtship and feelings and such.
The same is true for children, actually. A psychological study of children who had sexual encounters with an adult and the conclusion was it wasn't the sex itself that traumatized them but the stigma attached to it by society and all the authority figures who flip shit about it that causes the actual fear and long lasting trauma.
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>>382522074
Same here but I already knew the Matthew verse
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>>382550507
>Using a relationship of a 17 and 20 year old couple to justify the relationship between a 12 and a 30 year old "couple".
Please make the attempt to be more exacting in addressing the issue. Rather than feeding us a bunch of jargon about how 17 to 20 year old love shouldn't be forbidden, you actually address the matter of 12 year olds and their maturity level.
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>>382540914
Communist Russia and Mao's China killed more people retard. The Holocaust was a drop in the pond compared to those atrocities
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>>382550867
Looks like you swallow bait whole and raw if it reinforce your views!
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>>382517691
it doesn't matter because she either gets tornado'd if you're a selfish cunt or reset if you choose the correct ending
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>>382551018
look up internal injuries that children have suffered at the hands of pedos.
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>>382550969
What are you supposed to do when you get hit by a paperball?
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>>382551158
Right, anon, "bait", gotcha.
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>>382550507
Kids can't consent because they're brains are literally still developing. So if you fuck them, you're taking the advantage of the fact that they have an inferior brain to yours. That's how I see it.
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>>382550969
This image always makes me laugh because the guy looks exactly like someone I knew in high school.
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>>382551307
Talking about delusional neurocism..
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>>382551286
Hork on their desk.
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>>382540914
challenge accepted jew boi
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>>382516656
What if it's not romanticising violence, but raising awareness by being full-on with the audience?
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>>382551221
I got fucked when I was 8 and it hurt at first but I didn't bitch about it. I'm fine now and it was fun. I still road my bike even though one time I crashed so bad I broke my arm and bruised my ribs. Should we ban all bikes because accidents happen or sometimes people get hurt? No, that's stupid.
Everyone gets hurt and then it heals and you feel better.
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338 REPLIES ALREADY AND NONE OF YOU CUNTS MENTIONED RAPELAY?
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>>382549052
>shounen anime
Which one? I didn't hear about this.
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>>382551316
The brain of the human male is still developing until he is 25. Does that mean boys shouldn't be allowed to have sex until 25?
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>>382551018
>Or among animals, rape is just a regular occurrence.

Many animal species try to prevent forced sex to themselves or mate in a way that stops forced sex in the first place. This is because rape allows inferior mates to reproduce. It is a waste of resources to have children that are less likely to survive.
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>>382549052
>anime has rape
gee no shit
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>>382550751
And you're not justifying your position whatsoever. Listen, no one is saying that fucking an 8 year old is ok. Or that fucking someone against their will is ok. The crux of this argument is this: Kids under 18 cannot have sex because they lack the mental ability to consent to it. Thus any sexual act done to or by them constitutes statutory rape. By the letter of the law, two 13 year olds fucking each other is an act of MUTUAL RAPE.

My entire argument in response to that is that 18 is an arbitrary age, it isn't consistent among different areas, and it is inconsistent with the way we treat children in other respects. At 16 a kid is considered to have the mental capacity and forethought to pilot a 2 ton hunk of steel around at 80 miles an hour; an act that can end in their instant death if they make any real mistakes. But anything involving a dick has to wait two more years. We expect kids to be making long term decisions about what they want to do with their life in highschool, but we don't expect them to be able to mentally keep it together after some awkward promnight humping? Seems rather stupid to me.

And if you concede that two under 18 people could probably bone each other and not end up in a psych ward, then why does it matter if one partner is a few years older, so long as it is still consensual


Seriously, all I'm doing here is pointing out the fact that these laws aren't based on anything concrete or substantial. I'm not calling for them to be removed. Lots of laws aren't based on anything but moral outrage. I just want people admit they don't want 15 year olds fucking for personal reasons.
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>>382551778
Don't think you understand our point, everyone over 16 can have sex with one another.
If they have sex with someone under that age, they are still less developed than them, but not only that; they have less responsibilities, less education and don't understand as much.
The point of the law is that the development of a brain aged 16 is enough to be considered to give consent.
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>>382551683
Nigger are you blind?
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>>382552156
>18
there's that number again. Where the fuck do you live where the age of consent is 18? South Korea?
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>>382551675
this edge
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>>382552175
Why is 16 the magic number that makes you developed enough for consent? What changes between 15 and 16?
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>>382551675
Typical thing for a victim to say lmao, just because you're a victim doesn't mean you have more of a say in how others should be treated.
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>>382552339
It's about what changes in the majority of children.

It's supposed to be tenable fucking legislation.

How buttmad are you pedos?
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>>382552175
And what about being filmed doing the act? Why does using a camera suddenly make that act child porn when the 16 year is capable of giving consent? Take for example R Kelly. He banged a 16 year old. It was legal in the state they did it in. Then he filmed it and was taken to court for it
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>>382552394
Victim of what? My relationship was consensual. It just hurt the first few times because I was new to it
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>>382552339
just fucking accept it. There's a reason that age is a specific one. Not our problem is you're too mad to see it.
And besides different countries have different ages of consent. If you're that much of a pedo, go to india or pakistan or something. Geez
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>>382552431
Not upset at all desu because it's only illegal if you get caught.
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>>382537941

What is it about yellow skin and blue hair that turns me on so much
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>>382552592
yes, that is how all crime works.
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>>382525274
Yes, but the devs were to affraid to portray sex in RDR.
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>>382551416
>>382550969
Looks like a guy on my course. Dude collects german ww2 gear for reanactments, has memory issues.
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>>382552215
two posts among three hundred is not considered enough mentioning.
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>>382516591
I was expecting you guys to post the webm of the teacher shooting Max in the head and proceed to desecrate her body. I'm disappointed
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>>382553154
Do post that one. I could never get through Life is Strange because it put me to sleep.
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>>382552339
Responsibility, 16 in the UK is when you come out of high-school and enter college. So I guess the education level is different. Also it's around the end stages of puberty.

We are strictly talking about older people taking advantage of younger people, because that's what it is.

Can't you get pussy your own age faggot?
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>>382552175
>>382551316
>>382551056

OK, here's the thing, again. We KNOW from countless studies that once you hit puberty you start being a sexual being. Once those hormones start pumping, you start desiring whoever you desire.

The argument here is that, until X age, your brain isn't developed enough to handle the decision making processes required to consent to sexual activities. You lack the capacity to understand what you're doing and the possible consequences for it. Ok. My counter arguments are these:

1. What objective tests have been done to prove any of this, and exactly what in the brain's development is it that allows children to understand the concepts and consequences of sexual acts to the degree that they are considered able to engage in them? Is there a test I can do on a subject that will tell me if they are ready or not? Is it repeatable or is it just based on guesswork? There are certain milestones in child development (Such as the development of object permanence and mirror recognition) that we can test for and have approximate age boundaries, so perhaps this is one too.

2. If this particular "Sex" development is a predictable and age defined thing, why does the age of consent vary between states and countries?

3. Why, if this development is particularly age linked, do we not see massive mental disease epidemics in countries where the age of consent is lower than what it developmentally is. Why aren't all the women in mexico huddled in sobbing balls because of that 12 year old age of consent?


My argument is that this "sex" development is not some singular thing; it is a host of different processes that develop biologically smf as a result of social standards and personal experiences. And you cannot pin it down to any particular age, simply a rough period between 12 and 25 which will vary depending on the individual. Its impossible to pin it down using a universal standard.
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>>382552495
"Relationship" get a fucking therapist and stop justifying other paedophiles because of your supposedly "positive" experience.
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>>382552289
About 1/3rd of us states have the AOC at 18. Not to mention areas in central america, africa, the middle east, china and the indies.

Oddly enough the legal age in Africa is often higher than in Europe, where France has a legal age of 13 and Italy of 14.
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>>382552431
>fucking a 15 years old
>pedos
Fucking muricans
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>>382554016
>2. If this particular "Sex" development is a predictable and age defined thing, why does the age of consent vary between states and countries?
there should be a globally standardised age of consent for all countries, all at 16 or 18 no arguing about it.
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>>382554016
If you can't predict when someone is going to be able to consent then what's your justification for wanting to set the bar at the minimum?
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>>382554016
>No law
>Must be married
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>>382554340
France has a legal age of consent at the age of 15, not 13. Are you thinking of Japan anon?
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>>382554368
Alright pedo we get it, you're very smart for fucking children.
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>>382554503
I was actually thinking about spain.
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>>382554340
>https://www.ageofconsent.net/world
The average general age is still 16
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>>382554245
>Therapist
Nah, I'm ok. And frankly. I think other people should be allowed to explore and have fun as they please. And yes, relationship. We had a lot of fun
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>>382554449
This.
>>382554016
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I'm quite a cunnyseur myself.

Don't worry, we just have to keep pushing like the faggots did. We already have sympathy pieces doing well in the media.
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>>382554393
>all at 16 or 18
Normal people began to fuck around 13
Most western 18 yo girls have ride the cock carousel already
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>>382554730
Pitiful, If you being a disgusting individual wasn't the fault of a pedo you'd be a worthless existence.
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>>382554393
>or 18
nigga why not just have a global standardised age of consent at 16 what do you mean by or?
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>>382554908
Normal people do not start fucking at 13.

People who mature early or have serious issues tend to do that.
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>>382554974
Oh fuck off. I'm perfectly normal and my life is going just fine.
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>>382554449
>>382554742

I don't want to set the bar at the minimum. I think that would do more harm than good. My ideal solution would be some sort of standardized mental test and license system so individuals can be tested and allowed to do things when they are actually ready rather than force them to be subject to a blanket law. But I also don't think that would work out very well in the real world.

In reality 16 is probably fine, so long as people are willing to accept special cases when they come up. I'm not trying to justify my desires, I'm simply pointing out the fact that the way these laws are handled or created is much more to do with subjective and fluid social morals than objective scientific data. Which is fine, tons of laws are based on nothing but social norms. I just dislike people trying to say something is scientific fact when its just an opinion.
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Game in general handle heavy topics poorly because they're more focused on producing content that consumes X hours and involves Y arbitrary choices and consequence than on building repeatable character and story.
You can say it's true for other mediums to some degree, but the bar is simply lower with games.
The few games that do heavy topics well are very few, the best you can hope for in the average game is that the execution isn't cringe as fuck.
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>>382555097
whichever one is considered the better one to determine the point someone is mentally developed enough to give consent. The average in most countries is 16 but some it's higher
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>>382551683
The girls seem to enjoy it, except the loliest first time
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>>382554245
>Someone literally cannot POSSIBLY have had an experience that contradicts your preconceived ideas.
>they must be secretly broken.

I'm getting flashbacks of the SJW trope of "Internalized misogyny"
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>>382517476
wew
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>>382555398
t. Wizard
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>>382551628
Wouldn't work with the gamers of today. This whole website is a testament to their immaturity.
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can someone explain this one?
If the age is consent is 16 when someone is considered mentally developed enough to give consent for sex, why do they have to be 18 if a camera is involved?
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>>382555936
I had sex at 19 and all of my friends had sex at 15-20.

I only know of two people who had sex at 13 and 14 respectively and they were both fairly dysfunctional.

I'm sure someone from /pol/ can post that chart of how likely you are to have an STD if you have sex at 13.
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>>382553016
It's not a noteworthy game at all unless you are a normalfag who doesn't follow hentai and just remembers the retarded "scandal" which resulted from babbys first contact with that weird porn from japan.
It's one of Illusion's worst games due to railroaded VN style approach and more limited interaction than previous titles.
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>>382555398
Average age of first sexual intercourse varies between 15 and 23 depending on country. This does not include things like oral or mutual masturbation.
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>>382516591
Why do Christcucks always talk in quotations?
Why the fuck should I know the Bible to play a shitty ass videogame?
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>>382516591
Is LiS worth 5 burgerbux and however many hours it takes to finish it?
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>>382555736
Do you know what a global standard means?
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>>382556225
>/pol/ chart
Anon pls
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>>382556539
let's put it this way; I picked it up for "free" on ps plus and deleted it after 2p minutes because it was boring and restrictive
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>>382556608
We can't have that, the Prophet married Aixa when she was 9
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>>382555652
SJW cancer, people can wait to fuck, you have more important things to do when you're younger than 16.
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>>382556608
my definition in this context is standardised across all countries. The same age in all countries
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>>382556539
Sure, as long as you understand that it's basically a more involved visual novel unlike that other guy who expected a SICK ACTION GAME WHOA.
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>>382556765
>SJW cancer

Because I want laws to be based on objective measurable fact rather than feelings?

Pretty sure thats the exact opposite of what SJW's want.
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What the fuck happened to this thread.

What the fuck is going on now.
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>>382516591
Sengoku Rance handled it fine
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>>382556752
>9
He married her at 6, then fucked her at 9 god man, you islamophobe.
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You guys also need to take into account the fact that older woman don't act like traditional women anymore. They're manly, angry, intimidating, etc. A younger girl appears more feminine in that regard. Less corrupt, more pure, like maidens used to be.

Feminism backfired.
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>>382556951
Life is Strange is a game that tracks mature themes such as rape, bullying and pedos.
Play it, it's good.
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>>382557162
Everyone said it jumped around rape?
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>>382556874
No but you believe in the fluidity of things, and you still want some sort of possible way to fuck a younger person, their pleads for sex is non-existent and the only people who request what you want are other pedos and people over the age of consent.
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>>382557162
nah. I'd rather just shoot some alien scum
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>>382517476
10/10
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>>382557095
Kek, mature women these days are being jailed for fucking minors left and right

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779643/Two-female-teachers-accused-group-sex-student-16-freed-bail-salacious-details-emerge-videotaped-threesome.html
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>>382516656
is it better than the east romanticizing rape?
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this thread's gotten really fucked up. Expecting a 404 anytime now
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>>382557203
It's not Rapelay so of course weebs gonna sperg, but the game tracks rape and torture.
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The alt right was the nail in the coffin for this site.
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I swear this board is the easiest to troll, say something retarded and you'll get thousands of free (you)s
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>>382557371
What does romanticizing mean? Make something less serious than it appears to be?
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>>382557408
Stay mad nigger
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>>382557408
whats wrong? got raped?
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>>382557561
GO BACK TO >>>/pol/
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>>382557559
Look at the noble savage myth
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>>382517476
>she would be mildly annoyed at most
wewlad
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>>382517476
This bait
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>>382557642
Nigger
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>>382557629
Rape is the worst thing a human can experience. Dening this ousts you as a sad and lonely virgin. Now go back to >>>/pol/
>>382557918
>>>/trash/
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Why is Life is Strange so bad? Everything is so unlikable besides cute girls.
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>>382557986
>Having no taste
Wew lad
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>>382557408
nu-v needs to leave back to rr3ddit
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hello?
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>>382557967
rape isn't even close to actual torture you first world pussy
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NEW THREAD
NEW THREAD

>>382558198
>>382558198
>>382558198
>>382558198
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>>382558062
Game tells you of new power. Other character tells you to show your power. Instead of using your new power you have to go through some bullshit puzzle

Killing everyone is somehow happier than killing one person.

Plot straight stolen from a movie.

Writing is like 30 year old Oregon fags pretending they are still cool high school students.
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>>382558204
Hi virgin >>>/r9k/
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>>382517521
I don't get why people think "triggering" is a valid excuse for censoring other people's artistic vision. Outside of believing you can use emotional footholds to have authority over others. Which is also retarded.
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>>382558225
this really doesn't deserve a new thread.
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Who fucking cares what happens in the game, nothing matters except the final choice and anyone who didn't choose "Save the Town" is a fucking massive retard. Chloe is the most unlikable piece of shit character in all of fiction.
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>>382557227
>you believe in the fluidity of things
That morals and norms change over time? Yes. Because that is a fact? The morals of the 1950's and the 2000's are radically different and thats a single human lifetime. I don't believe sexes are fluid though. Those are hard coded genetic realities.

>You still want some sort of possible way to fuck a younger person
Nope. As I've said, I'd rather fuck a dog than the irrational, needy, emotionally unstable thing that is a 16 year old girl.

>their pleads for sex is non-existent
Are you trying to say that people under 18 don't have sex and don't want to? Because thats frankly completely untrue. Unless of course all these teen pregnancies are just pedo rapists but if thats your viewpoint we have a much bigger problem on our hands.

>the only people who request what you want are other pedos and people over the age of consent.
I'm not requesting anything. I've already said that the age of consent being 16 or 18 is probably fine. The age of consent has no bearing on me whatsoever. All I have ever pointed out is the documented facts that once someone has gone through puberty they begin having sexual desires, and that many of them have sex under the AoC for their area. From that I simply asked why two under age kids fucking is fine, but as soon as one partner is above whatever the AoC is for that area, people believe it will cause horrible mental trauma to the younger participant.
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>>382557967
>if you don't agree with me you're a sad lonely virgin from /r9k/-/pol/
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>>382558989
>>>/pol/
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>>382552448
Oh I don't really care I think it should be the same as the age of consent. If someone can agree to fucking an old guy, they're certainly smart enough to know what porn means.

We have fucked up porn development laws in the UK too. And isn't that because you have a Federal Law that restricts under 18's to be filmed? Can't do anything about that if a third of america has an age of consent of 18, so I guess the logic is, since the minimum is 18, so is the act of filming them.
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>>382516854
>>382550012
IDK niggy, I felt pretty uncomfortable after the whole dark room arc
I think LiS strange did it pretty well
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>>382555910
I was more talking about the fact that since the relationship hasn't lasted he was obviously taken advantage of.
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>>382517476
this is the kind of guy to shoot up a school
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>>382556225
don't trust /pol/ charts anon
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>>382556813
So how can you have "16 or 18"
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>>382551165
I read a pretty great theory about the ending choices actually

someone argued that tornado-ing the town is the correct ending as the other one just kind of shows that Max learned absolutely nothing throughout the game. Her biggest mistake was constantly going back in time to change the course of "destiny"
the tornado ending is Max accepting her mistakes and facing the consequences whereas the save everyone ending shows she learned nothing.
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>>382516591
Fate/Stay Night and Tsukihime tackle rape
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>>382558780
Why are you using under 18 as the main example? the age of consent is 16 not 18 where I live (UK).
And most kids under 16 do not worry about fucking something.
And if they want to fuck something they can frolic in their own age group.

And your last point.
It is because that one partner has a higher level of responsibility, is most likely smarter, is more developed and the person younger them are the opposite.

A minimum age of consent is set to make sure this doesn't happen, as the sexual needs of under 16's is a lot less important than pedos raping children.
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>>382551286
Stand up and punch them in the face.
You'd get in trouble, but then they'd stop the bullshit.
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>>382560695
>Why are you using 18?
Because 18 is the age where I live.

>most kids under 16 don't worry about fucking
Personal experience is to the contrary but Neither of us have any actual data to put forth.

>If they want to fuck something, they can frolic in their own age group
Not by american laws. Two 14 year olds fucking can both be sent to prison if a parent calls the cops. Similarly, a 16 year old sending nude pictures of themselves can be hit with the charge of creating and disseminating child porn. Thats the reality of the way the laws are in america.

>It is because that one partner has a higher level of responsibility, is most likely smarter, is more developed and the person younger them are the opposite.
Why does that make it more likely that the younger person will suffer trauma as a result? That exact same rationale is why we require parents to be in the car with a child learning to drive. Surely younger people can be exploited easier than partners of the same age most of the time, but that same thing could be said about even two partners of different but still legal age.


Again, I'm not trying to say 12 year olds and 40 year olds fucking is ok or right. I'm just pointing out that your rationales here are all based on feelings, not objective facts.
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>>382562516
What? My rationale is that people who are 16 or older should not be fucking people younger than them. It's not based on feelings people older than 15 are in fact older than 15 and therefore more developed and have experienced the world more than them. You have to make a cut off point somewhere, even if the differences are minuscule between the youngest and oldest of the two groups. It's law, not science, and it's used to protect those who could possibly suffer.

I don't see the point to your argument. What is the disadvantage to not having this law and why would you not want it implemented. And there's loads of reports of paedophilia and it's affects on the victims, why would you even argue that.
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>>382516854
no
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>>382563139
>My rationale is that people who are 16 or older should not be fucking people younger than them.

Thats not a rationale, that's a decision. And there's no objective reason behind it, you just FEEL like they shouldn't.

>It's law, not science, and it's used to protect those who could possibly suffer.

Ban alcohol to prevent alcoholics. Ban cars to prevent car crashes. Make all wages equal so no one suffers from being poor. So on and so forth.

> why would you not want it implemented
I didn't say I didn't. Again, all I said is that the AoC is arbitrary and not reflective of an objective reality.

>And there's loads of reports of paedophilia and it's affects on the victims, why would you even argue that.

Paedophilla isn't a crime and has no victims. It is a mindset, an attraction. Child molestation is a crime and has victims. Saying pedophilia has victims is like saying heterosexuality has victims when you're talking about people who have been raped.

I don't think you have anything more than a very basic, knee jerk, moralist knowledge of any of this.
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>>382529850
it works for most genuine christians. maybe not tumblr "christians"
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>>382541053

It's something that society will never do research on because it's technically unethical to conduct such an experiment.

There are a lot of things that could become preventative in this world but because we are so "civilized" we can't really make victims to prove it.
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>>382557408
Your nose is showing.
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>>382546346
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>>382517476
This guy is unironically 100% right.

It's funny how many people claim to hate feminists and are not aware that they basically agree with them. This is because the belief is so strong it is not even considered feminist, but just common sense.
The idea that rape is worse than genocide was created by feminists, yes rape is bad but it is severely overrated by women, being brutally beaten is way worse than being raped for example.

Another feminist concept everyone takes for granted: age of consent laws and childhood trauma. Feminists have convinced an entire generation of Americans that fucking a 16yo is literally babyfuck, despite the fact that being attracted to teenagers is normal and 16 year old girls are BIOLOGICALLY prime targets for breeding.
As for child molestation, controversial studies have found that a large part of the trauma from it come from the expectation that it should be there, rather than the actual act, society is essentially memeing mental illness on children, I have no idea why people freely accept this when it comes to gender dysphoria or other dumb shit but refuse to accept the same for more delicate topics.

>inB4 ad hominem and non arguments
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>>382518694>>382518972
its pretty fair to say that she was being a bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wG0oabFm63w
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>>382516591
Nope
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>>382566037
>As for child molestation, controversial studies have found that a large part of the trauma from it come from the expectation that it should be there, rather than the actual act
Link pls.
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>>382532435
>>382533554
bumping for scientific reasons
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>>382532435
Rape is the PS4 exclusive of crimes, similar to how childbirth is the PS4 exclusive of pains.
Those who experience them do want to keep the illusion that they're the most extreme in their categories (best game, worst crime/pain etc.).
Those who don't experience them can be shut down easily.
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>>382535532
You're just rationalizing as a coping mechanism.
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>>382516591
fuck women - the thread.
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>>382555652
Just have people pass a mandatory IQ test at 13.

Below 90, banned from breeding, banned from receiving financial government assistance, directed towards mcjobs, janitor, garbage collector, etc.

Below 100, banned from voting in governmental elections, banned from entering a protected field such as engineering or medicine. Banned from breeding under the age of 18.

Below 120, banned from breeding under the age of 16, banned from consuming alcohol below the age of 18, banned from voting in government elections below the age of 18.

Above that, no restrictions since they are smart enough to be reasonable about what they do.
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I want to MARRY Maxine Caulfield!
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>>382516591
it's not

it's just that sjw literally suck at everything regarding storywriting
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>no mention of Molag Bal, the literal King of Rape
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>>382569935
you do realize you can be mentally handicapped even with an iq of 140

see autistic talents, some of them can't live their day to day life without outside help, but they certainly can give you insane results when it comes to where their talent spike resides

>>>/pol/
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>>382516591
Rape is fun. RapeLay sequel when?
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>>382517476
>mildly annoyed
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>>382572473
Fuck off, janitor-to-be.
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>>382554245
>justifying
There is literally nothing wrong with consensual intercourse, retard.
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I think this thread fully cements why i hate /v/ now. You all need to go outside, meet new people, read some books. Just anything, for fucks sake.
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>>382573948
*tips pussy hat*
Muh "common decency" (actually SJW shit in disguise)
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>>382574276
epic.
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