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Dragon Ball fighter Z thread
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>>381840991
>Another thdr where delusional fags asking about any non DBZ characters to be in the game
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>>381841106
Shut up
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>Roshi
>not Jackie Chun
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>teleports allow you to follow up any stray hit for a combo

neat
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>>381842031
It seems to drop easily if they are moving up/down too quickly
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Will we get the whole team of 10 in FighterZ?
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>>381841106
What I see happening is the same thing they did with the 3ds games and making it where you can fight people from either games.

It could happen.
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Oh fuck is Roshi in this?

Does he have a Jackie Chun alt?
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I will only give a shit about this game if they add Kid Goku.
But Roshi would be cool
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>>381842361
What the fuck is Tien and Roshi doing on their team?
Roshi could barely hold his own again Freiza soldiers and Tien was irrelevant from Perfect Cell onwards.
Surprised they didn't recruit Hercule just to bring it all together.
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>>381842342
I think you can dragon rush much sooner after the teleport only the guy wasn't ready for it. These guys playing seemed pretty new to this style of game.
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Wonder what the movesets for other unannounced characters will look like. So far they've remained faithful to the series. What do you hope for in your favorite unannounced character's moveset?
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>>381842696
The tournament isn't as simple as one on one fights. It's an 80 man battle royale where you have to knock people out of the ring.

Strategy and useful techniques are an important part for the battle.

It's not like everyone at the tournament is going to be god tier either. Surely there's opponents even Roshi can beat.
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>>381843192
>Dragon Ball fighter Z thread
>game's not even out
just go back to your gener/a/l
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>>381841106
>Not wanting based Ayy to be in the game
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Universe 6 is pretty much a shoe-in for DBFZ.
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>/v/edditors STILL asking about alternate costumes and wanting 4 versions of one character
And you cucks call other people casual?
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>>381841501
Alternate costume, my dude.
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>>381843192
Why not just get one really strong person to BTFO everyone? It's like they've forgotten so many rules from DBZ. Just one really strong guy could power up and BTFO all the weaker guys.
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>>381843167

I want Piccolo to have that dumb spin kick he did when he fought Cell
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>>381844150
like clockwork lmao
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>>381843167
So you don't have to do inputs?
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>>381844190
One of the biggest obstacles is the no kill rule.

Sure, you could just try to plow the whole arena with a really powerful attack, but you would end killing a lot of weaklings on the process, getting disqualified and well having you and your whole universe erased in the process.
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Did they really confirm Roshi?
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>>381841106
golden freeza is in it
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>>381844682
No
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>>381844727
Fuck. Oh well I'm sure he'll be in.
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>>381844629
They could just pull a Cell vs. Hercule.

>>381844772
He wouldn't be a bad choice.
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these 10 will be in
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>>381844702
Golden Freeza debuted in a Z movie, same with Beerus. Both predate Super.
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>>381844808
And how you will hit em individually with a weak attack when the strong members of the team can easily block it and hit you back when you're wasting your time with this?
On really good writer's hands, that would be a 8d chess.
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>>381844864
nah
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>>381844629

What's the point of the no kill rule of the losers for anyway?
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>>381844190
The torunament isn't about ridiculous power levels. It's about wits, experience and strategy, thus having Tien and Master Roshi is fucking essential.
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>>381842597
GT kid Goku hopefully
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>>381844612
yes you do
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>>381845056
The point is to provide zeno with interesting fights.
If you don't have the no kill in place, many people will just use their instant murder techniques and make it a borefest.
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>>381845116
*Master roshi and krillin
Tien is neither very strong nor very witty at all.
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>>381845116
Not to mention the "no flying" rule. People thought that only applied to when you're knocked off the stage, like you couldn't fly back. Nope - flying is straight-up DISABLED in the tournament stage.

Except for that bird man from the other universe, since his wings are part of his body or whatever. I'm sure he'll win.
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>>381845213

Oh so that's why Tien and Roshi are allowed to job.
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>>381843348
cause we need more meme threads right?
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>>381840991
>Producer says they're balancing the game with power levels in mind
>Only SS Goku and Vegeta can defeat Gold Frieza, Cell, and Majin Buu
Does this bode well for that stupid statement being untrue?
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>>381845116
It's a little late to go back to that now. The gap between Tien and Freeza Saga Freeza was huge. Was Tien even stronger than Sayian Saga Vegeta by the end of Z? It's weird to pluck them from obscurity now that people are gods.

Was Tien even that tactical? All I remember of him was spamming cool looking moves that didn't do shit and him beating Goku because Goku got hit by a car.
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>>381844864
Gotenks was a mistake.
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>>381845417
It was a joke but, some characters will have unique features to give them an edge.
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>>381845116
and Roshi has mafuba, so it doesn't matter how powerful you are you gonna get fucked.
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>>381845362
Yep.
Roshi probably will be quite helpful due his experience, you know the whole "BE CAREFUL GOKU! TOUCHING THAT GUY WILL TURN YOU INTO A CARROT!" kind of helpful.

Now tien.. tien is the guy that gets turned into a carrot first.
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>>381845295
>Tien isn't witty
Someone didn't watch Dragon Ball.

It's honestly criminal how Toryiama handled Tien over the years, he pretty much ran out of ideas with the dude. Even then Tien still had brief moments to shine like with Cell.
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>>381840991
Not buying until Luffy and Naruto are confirmed
Full Battle Stadium D.O.N team when
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>>381843845
as long as they only do the top row. The bottom looks crappy.
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>>381841106
Big chance of Broly being in it because nips love him
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>>381845423
> Was Tien even stronger than Sayian Saga Vegeta by the end of Z?
Realistically, he shouldn't be. All he did was train on King Kai's planet for a while, and then do regular training in Earth's gravity. Didn't even get his potential unlocked like Krillin did.

I always imagine he ended up somewhere near Ginyu Force level, and that's being generous.
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>>381845652
unless goku forgets the fucking seal
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>>381845563
Gotenks is best fusion.
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>>381845676
I did watched the "a lot of angry three eyed guy flying on that weird plane that makes him look like an alien due the weird seat" yes.
He got a lot of balls, but its a bit too brash that may lead to quite rushed stupid decisions.
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>>381842696
Both Roshi and Tien have Mafuba,so its pretty useful,can probably catch someone like Jiren by surprise
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>>381845819
You don't need the seal this time.
It's just "mafuba to out of the ring".
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>>381845423
Of course he was way stronger than saiyan saga Vegeta by the end of Z. Doesn't matter if they are just doing this, this isn't the Cell games, killing is prohibited. Martial tournaments are just the place where Tien belongs, he even runs his own dojo, he's oughta have some tricks up his sleeve.
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>>381845423
He was able to hold back cells second form that one time

the attack is literally killing him everytime he uses it though. Would probably have a greater impact if they didnt have senzu beans and dragon balls
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>>381841106
Dragon Ball FighterZ not Dragon Ball Z Fighter
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>>381845423
Tien has pretty useful moves.

The Tri Beam was really good at holding down Semi-Perfect Cell down.

Also has Solar Flare which can fuck up people for a moment which can help get ring outs.
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>>381845847
>gotenks
>best fusion
But Gotenks is not this handsome son of a bitch.
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>>381844887

Those mental gymnastics.
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>>381846208
>Krillin was the one to take solar flare to the next level with his x100 variant
Seems weird. They should have had Tien come up with that.
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>mfw they thought they could trust Frieza
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>>381846346
>they
no, just goku
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>>381846305
It's not mental gymnastics, it's fact. Beerus and Golden Freeza debuted in Z movies long before Super was a thing, you can't get around that. They are originally Z characters.
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>>381841106
I can't wait for you to be wrong and I can't wait to BLACK scrubs online.
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>>381845423
Despite having his potential unlocked, Krillin unfortunately had 0 impressive feats afterwards. Tien at least held off Cell and deflected a blast from Super Buu. Although they both fought a Cell Jr so those things had to be stronger than Saiyan saga Vegeta. Yamcha even fought one of those.
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>>381846402
Was this game any good?
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>>381846346
>Implying Frieza isn't going to get shit on by Jiren
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>>381846486
It was alright limited by its control scheme.
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>>381846507
>Jiren currently thinks Goku is the ultimate evil of U7
Yeah he's not going to like Freeza once he figures him out
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>>381845847
Gotenks is an irritating little shit.
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>>381845809
Tien straight up shits on Burter and Jeice. At the same time. Stop talking shit about Tenshinhan.
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>>381846717
But Burter is the fastest guy in the universe.
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>>381842696
If you have been keeping up you would know, roshi has been doing secret training and is much stronger than tien now, cucked him out in one hit when they fought. And he was fighting evenly with base form goku

The main thing though is they have tricky techniques. Roshi was practicing that lightning technique he used in db, and tien seems to be the only one able to see an opponent that is invisible to everybody else thanks to his 3rd eye
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>>381846717
Fuck Tenshinhan.
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>>381846285
That's not SSJ4 Gogeta
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>>381846836
Roshi also ate a whole pile of magic vitality weed and overcame his perverted desires. He has ascended. Didn't even perv on the femsaiyans.
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>>381846836
>Roshi has been doing secret training

they can fuck off with that explanation. Roshi wasn't even in the same league as Raditz.
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>>381846507
I can't take Jiren seriously.
He is fucking hilarious to me.
The fact that he is a literally called the grey and the fact that he just is a grey that hits the gym is just pure comedy.
I can't imagine him being the final boss of this arc.
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>>381847130
Super is so inconsistent it isnt even funny. Just watch it for what it is
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>>381847130
>they can fuck off with that explanation.
The explanation that training makes you stronger? That's how it's always worked, I don't know why it's upsetting you now.
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>>381847024
>Gogetafag
>SSJ4Gogetafag
Christ anon
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>>381847231
Somehow he works for me because they're playing him completely straight.
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>>381847375
>vegito blue
At least pick super vegito bruh
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>Superfags
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>>381847130
>Powerlevels

That argument doesn't work anymore. Yajarobe can probably take on Beerus if he catches him off guard or some shit.
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>>381847130
>Roshi wasn't even in the same league as Raditz.

Goku wasn't in the same league as Raditz when he appeared either. Not sure what your point is.
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>>381847231
>swole ayy lmao that literally *teleports behind u*
I love jiren, and a lot of the universal arc stupidity, it's fun (except for buu getting cucked out of a tournament AGAIN to bring back frieza AGAIN)
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>>381847231

Final boss is Kale salad

Screencap this
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>>381847443
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>>381847375
SSGSS is fucking stupid.
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Bear Thief when?
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>>381847375
>he likes Blue Vegito
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>>381847561
>finally FINALLY get new femsaiyans
>they're tailess twinks in base form and one is literally fembroly
I mean ok I guess, fucking U6
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>>381845563
While I'm not a big fan of Gotenks, he does end up being a decent fighting game character thanks to move variety and creative use of powers.
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>>381847561
The only thing better than Jiren or Hit dunking of Frieza would be Kale beating Frieza. I don't even like Kale but imagine the asspain that it would cause.
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>>381847523
Roshi is not a Sayian. He was already old as fuck in Dragonball. like three hundred years old. And he only at power level 137. Now he's done secret training? Can't they come up with better explanations? Someone unlocked his potential? Something. Just secret training. That's as bad as Freeza's six months training that made him God Level. The Androids were an asspull too. Don't get me wrong. Z had shit like that too. But with Super, they're just so damn lazy.
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>>381847130

Krillin gets wounded with a bullet, Goku gets a scratch from a bullet. Krillin beats Gohan and keeps up against Goku. Power levels in Super make no sense whatsoever anymore, everyone is crazy strong now and everyone has been secret training.
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>>381847231
I like it when Dragon Ball is funny even if its unintentional.
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>>381847804
>>381847627
>>381847443
Everyone knows super vegito is best vegito, but even vegito blue looks better than ssj4.
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>>381847804
>>381847024
>Vegito is supposed to be the cocky one that has fun and bantz while Gogeta is the serious one that gets straight to business
>Gogeta goes SSJ4 and suddenly starts acting like Vegito
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>>381845116

Tien was a trickster. Since he was somewhat a secondary character in Z people may have forgotten that, but the Crane school students were all smartasses.

He has some skills the rest of the participants may have but all in one person and also a few unique ones.

>Solar Flare
>Multi-Arms
>Multi-Form
>Telekinesis
>Tri Beam

He also showed he is capable of learning other people moves quite fast.

Roshi is also OK. Even if is a bit forced is nice to see him back and his experience will also work.

What I don't understand is #17. He really lacks personality. Why everyone had to be Z related? Couldn't come up with no one else? In any case I would have replaced #17 with Buu.
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>>381847893
>FUCKING SAIYANS REEEEEEEEEE
>ETHNIC CLEANSING WHE- oh right i did that already
>BUT IT DIDN'T WORK FUCK
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>>381847529
>(except for buu getting cucked out of a tournament AGAIN to bring back frieza AGAIN)

This was fucking stupid.

>Buu falls asleep during Resurrection F events
>ends up not being able to do Universe Tournament thanks to not being able to read/write
>now that he worked out like Frieza did and improved himself, he's apparently fell into a several month long sleep yet again
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>>381847951
You knkw your right, it is probably why I like the Zamasu arc.
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>>381848026
Hate GT all you want cause yes it's shit. But SSJ4 looks better than color swap Sayian
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>>381847840
Muscles are hard to draw. I think Tenshinhan is the only character that keeps his muscles at all by default (not counting Master Roshi in muscle mode).
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>>381848141
What is this Buu falls asleep thing they've been pushing? Was this established in Z somewhere and I've forgotten?
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So how is the story gonna play out? Are they gonna do retelling of sagas? A arcade mode with every character having a story? A whole new story with everyone intertwined with it? I wouldn't mind but it would be cool if it wasn't just retelling. With all the recent DBZ games having original stories why not Fighterz
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>>381848241
No it is not, it is lazy and unoriginal as fuck, but it isn't an abomination like ssj magic pants.
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>>381848372
nobody knows yet but they said it will have rich single player content.
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>>381848372
Well since they already said that they're not gonna retcon the end of Z, It's safe to say that U6 will win
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>>381848370
Buu fell asleep practically mid-battle in each of his forms at least once in his arc.
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>>381848372
It'll highly depend on the roster
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>>381848370
The only thing I can remember is when Super Buu falls asleep, but that was literally just an excuse he made to wait for Gohan to appear and to allow Goten and Trunks enough time to be able to fuse again. Plus when Kid Buu falls asleep in the middle of his fight. It's been there, but it's a poor excuse for the character to keep being pushed out of doing anything save for a single fight.

>tfw they didn't even try to go find New Namek and ask the Namekians to make a wish for Buu to be fully rested
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>>381848370
buu has been relegated to useless/joke tier. essentially what the original plans were for goku after the cell saga.
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Okay, so let me get this shit straight
>Frieza gets revived by a muppet
>Frieza goes gold
>Frieza goes ghost
>A purple cat and a trap train Goku and Vegita to go blue
>Goku ticks off some Supreme Ultra Duper Kai
>Tournament for the fate of the universes because why not
>Goku needs some more man power
>So he wants Frieza of all people revived
>Frieza fucks everyone over
>Some ayy lmao is on Frieza's side
>Also there's no good doujins of Pan 2.0 and female Broly

Am I up to speed on Super?
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>>381843558
>ANOTHER hit
.....So cool
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>>381848656
The purple cat comes to earth seeking the Sayain God and then fights Goku and Vegeta.

Speaking of which, are the original Super Sayian and the Sayian God of legend, the same guy?
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>>381848463
piccolo can create clothes out of nowhere, fusion transformations create clothes too. I'm going with the SSJ4 tramsformations can too
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>>381848656
>Goku ticks off some Supreme Ultra Duper Kai
goku is actually zeno's only friend
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>>381842361

Why is Frieza with the good guys and a halo
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>>381848732
I'm willing to bet that Jiren has nothing in the way of unusual abilities and is just godlike through pure physical fitness.
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>>381848372

All original story probably, just because they used the term Dream Match
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>>381848463
SSJ4 makes way more sense than "muh god ki" as it's the next logical step for a sayian being part man and part oozaru
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>>381848656
>>Goku ticks off some Supreme Ultra Duper Kai
Not a supreme duper kai just a /r9k/ robot kai that is also a /pol/lack that got triggered because he got defeated by a filthy monkey NINGEN.
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>>381848906
>teleported without goku knowing it
they even commented on his unusual crazy energy.
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>>381848656

>Am I up to speed on Super?

You forgot how they're slowly integrating GT into the story
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>>381848463
I like the original Super Sayian God form. They should have done more with it. Super Sayian Blue is lazy.
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>>381848896
like goku in early buu saga, he was wished back temporarily to keep the universe from being erased
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YAMCHA MOVELIST:
3 shot Kamehameha that he used against the saibamen.
WFFand its variations:
Blinding WFF
Tiger Jackhammer First
WWBlowingWind
Whirlwind Claw
Spirit Punch
Spirit and Extra Ball
WFF Gale
WolfSliceFist,
Wolf Fang Blast
Puar Summon.
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>>381848951
And it looks like shit.
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>>381848603
Everything does but even with the confirmed 7 it wouldn't be hard. There are plenty of ways for villains and heroes to travel through time. Especially with God characters like Beerus and Zeno who would do stuff like that for shits and giggles
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>>381848770
No
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>>381848984
im sure itll come back as a result of blue+kk use
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>>381848984

I didn't like SSG but it was at least trying to be somewhat original.
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>>381848984

>They should have done more with it

Red was a temporary transformation, blue is Goku "mastering" the transformation.
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>>381848984
I can 100% agree with that ssj blue was completely unnecessary and it shouldn't have replaced ssjg that was like a million times better, but point is as lazy as blue is it still looks bettet than ssj4.
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>>381847449
>Implying Mr. Piccolo is weak enough to bleed
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>>381848984
>They should have done more with it.

What could they do with Red that they can't do with Blue?
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>>381849291

Fuck your gay ads explanation. The fact is bit looks fucking dumb.

If they were going to default back to SSJ' s appearance they should have kept the original.
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>>381848087
Overconfidence happens all over the place in DB and people get fucked over because of it.

See:
Piccolo after fusion with Nail, vs Freiza.
Vegeta after zenkai boost, vs Freiza.
Vegeta after Super Saiyan boost, vs Androids.
Gotenks after SS3 boost, vs Majin Buu.
Gohan after Elder Kai Unlock boost, vs Majin Buu.
Vegito after fusion boost, vs Majin Buu.

It's such a staple in the series for all characters. It's actually really odd that Gogeta during the Janemba movie didn't also get cocky, but at the same time since movies have limited air time, they fused at the end, did their big comeback, and that's that for the movie.
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>>381848984
that honestly looks like a deviant art OC.
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>>381843167
>Cell: A versatile, and in a sense: the perfect character!

heh
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>>381849513

We are talking about appearance dumbass.
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>>381849349
>it still looks better than SSJ4
It doesn't though
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>>381848656
>Some ayy lmao is on Frieza's side
No, the ayy lmao is an ally of justice, Frieza is going to team up, and obviously betray, with his simil from another dimension.
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>>381848961
H-he's fast!

>>381843167
>Short reach, powerful attacks
So is Gohan Enja?
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>>381849631
even then you called Blue lazy like Red isn't.
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>>381849291
Red should have been the permanent one. I liked the whole dynamic behind them having to use the remaining sayians to get the power as opposed to Goku just having the power himself. Some interesting stories could be told with that limitation.

>>381849603
Everything in Super does.
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>>381849690

Why do all the new characters lack so much detail, fuck.

Seriously they look like Chinese knocks offs.
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>>381849291
toriyama has flat out said red is stronger than blue. ssg was almost on par with beerus. current blue goku is still much weaker than him.
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>>381848896
Because Buu fell asleep and they needed a 10th member for the tournament.
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>>381849685
It does though.
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Jesus, Dragon Ball Super is utter trash. I seriously hope they don't soil Dragon Ball FighterZ with Super garbage.
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>>381849349
>>381849685
I really thought the SSJG red hair was supposed to be a nod to SSJ4. Blue was disappointing.
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>>381849890
huh, they really did step the animation up.
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>>381849798
>toriyama has flat out said red is stronger than blue.

Proof.
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>>381849798
No he hasn't. In fact both the show AND the manga confirm blue is stronger than red on MULTIPLE occasions.
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>>381850149
like all anime, it depends on the context. action scenes showcasing a new/returning character are always gonna be on the higher end of the budget
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>>381849890
>that fucking multi-omegabeam move
>forehead poke of doom
XV3 is gon be gud
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>>381850046
SSJ4 might of been shit but at least it was original. SSB is shit PLUS lazy
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>>381850149
More like that episode in particular wasn't garbage, it looks better in the recent arc but it is still pretty shitty.
That episode did have some nice looking shots though.
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>>381846305
G. Freiza is in DBZ.

F is a DBZ Movie. It was made before Super aired (possibly before it was even conceived), and Toriyama not only worked directly on it but stated it's a direct continuation of the end of Buu Saga.
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>>381849798
>listening to ol' senile "I forget characters and power levels" Toriyama
>SSJ blue Goku much weaker than Beerus
>not reading the manga
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>>381849291
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>>381850437
Ssj blue is lazy and shitty, but despite how shitty it is, ssj4 manages to be worse.
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>>381850471
>tonight: you
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>>381850625
I think it looks fine.
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>>381847231
i subconsciously heard the x-files theme when he teleported behind goku
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>>381850532
That means people have to accept that Beerus, Super Saiyan Blue Goku and Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta are okay in the game.

They won't.

Even then, what's so wrong with having Hit, Goku Black, and Zamasu in the game?
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>>381850562
>>381850378
whis said only goku and vegeta together could beat beerus

>>381850315
you can literally google it
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>>381850562
Manga isn't all that great either.
As shitty as anime zamasu arc was, it still had the meme factor going for it, but the manga doesn't even have that.
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>>381850625
That looks way better than color swap red and blue.
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>>381850471
all anime studios really need to do is draw really pretty still frames and shake them around a lot for people to splooge over how great the animation is

i'll admit it was a pretty good fight though. although compared to frieza and goku brutalizing each other, this fluffy cross-counter rivalry just made me wonder why they bothered. frieza's apex moment was the final fight in namek, then he came back half-dead to job to trunks to set up the scope of the next arc like a bitch. that should have been the end of his relevancy
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>>381850149

Overall the animation improved after the first 30 eps or so but it's still pretty inconsistent. At times it looks really good, followed by stiff choppy animation. Same goes for character design, some are downright terrible.
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>>381847937

Launch would regularly fuck up Goku, Krillin and Roshi with a submachine gun. Powerlevels are inconsistent, who gives a shit.


>>381847128

>Roshi no longer a perv

But that was the best part about Roshi. Shit.
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>>381850749
I'd rather have DBZ than Hit, Black and Zamasu.
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>>381850625
It made more sense than blue does. Regardless of what you personally think of how it looks aesthetically, when Goku went SSJ3 he flashed back to the memory of Saiyans as great apes. It makes sense that the next step in the transformation would reference more of that nature. Blue has no direct link to anything other than itself, not even the SSJG design.
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Saitama could ONE PAWWWWWWWWNCH Goku
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>>381850818
It really doesn't.
Ssjg/bkue is just a red base and blue ssj, it is lazy, but it is not s clusterfuck like ssj4.
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>>381847128
Watch Roshi get the boner of his lifetime when Kale goes Berserk.
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>>381850784
Point is that Goku learns Beerus's destruction technique in the manga, meaning he can simply erase his opponents from existence. He might not be able to do it as readily as Beerus (once he uses it, he's out of power) but you know he's going to train so that he'll be able to consistently do it. No one in any universe is a threat to manga Goku anymore.
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>>381841106
>honestly thinks Toriyama won't shove his brand new waifu into the game to even allow its creation
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>>381850867
Those three characters are better than someone like Nappa or Raditz or the Ginyu Force.
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>>381850859
>But that was the best part about Roshi. Shit.
It was getting out of hand when he almost raped that Tien groupie.

Yamcha's biggest contribution to the Tournament of Power was letting Roshi use his shapeshifting cat as a fleshlight until he got it out of his system.
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We can all agree that this is the most beautiful and most kino ssj form right?
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>>381851014
Ok bruh
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>>381848370
In an interview years back Toriyama mentioned that before Bibidi learnt how to wake him, Buu would go through cycles of blowing shit up and hibernation. Now they're just using the hibernation thing as an excuse to keep him out of the picture without killing him off.
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>>381851120
I am not talking about the hakai, but I just don't think the manga is all that good either.
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No transformation scene will EVER be this good.
If only the entire series was this amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXPgtJlJkxo
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>>381851153
Is there a greater cuck in the multiverse than Yamcha?
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>>381848641
>Toriyama
>plans

Have any other good jokes?
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>>381851207
Cool
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>>381850908
golden great apes and the increasingly primal super saiyan transformations made a lot of sense, and worked great in continuity, and i miss them

but these god forms working off a different, divine power source being a stylistic departure from the monkey stuff makes sense to me
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>>381851120
Does this technique put goku above superman in a one on one fight?
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>>381849781
Toriyama got old and cares even less now
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>>381851369
It is very hard to think of one
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https://youtu.be/aFl6ydm7O-w
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>>381851364
I'm glad someone on the animation team has a boner for Frieza. His transformation in Revival of F wasn't even this good.
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>>381851486
>Not the latin-american one
Plebeian
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rest of the roster will probably be this:

-Piccolo
-SSJ3 Gotenks
-18
-Krilin
-Beerus
-Tien
-Kid Buu or Super Buu
-Mystic Gohan
-SSJ Vegito
-Yamcha
-17 or 19
-16
-Dabura
-Nappa or Recoome
-Ginyu w/ Ginyu Force as summons

***Broly as DLC
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>>381850749
It's called DB Fighter Z, not DB Fighter S.

SSBGoku and SSBVegeta are also not ok in the game as the developers have stated they're only have one iteration per character and no selectable "forms" of characters (they left some sort of exception for Young/Teen Gohan as it's not a form but practically a different character). They might be ok as super moves or limit breaks, but not as actual fighters.

Beerus and Whis (and technically Jaco) should absolutely be allowed in the game. In fact, not having Beerus as a fighter, or at least a "boss", would be really odd.
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>>381851654
>Dabura
>16
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>>381851412
I wish the original super sayian would show up in the series and wreck shit in his golden oozaru fom
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>>381851427
Probably any Superman except Superman 1 Million.
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>>381851138
Captain Ginyu is far more interesting than having double Zamasu.
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>>381851181
It is pretty much agreed that you should fuck off back to >>>/tv/
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>>381851181
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>>381849028

I really want a viable Yamcha more than anything.

Give him utility and gimmicks (Sensu beans, Puar, Wolf Fang Rekkas, fake death) or maybe even reference the Shonen-Jump spin off where he becomes as strong as Goku by plot-hacking.

Yamcha deserves some redemption for all those memes.
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>>381851207
I like Super but SSJ4 has the coolest design
He's clearly fucking strong, he's literally intimidating, just look at him

And yet he struggles while lifting a skyscraper; SSJ blue is just a recolor, yet they made it feel way more powerful

SSJ4 design was truly wasted potential
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>>381851715
>It's called DB Fighter Z, not DB Fighter S.
This shit again. It was already said on an interview that characters from other parts can appear, everything depends on popularity, fan feedback and apparently uniquenes too. And there's been several Dragon Ball games with Z in the title that have characters not exclusive from it.
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>>381851789
You mean Bardock?
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>>381851364
>Everyone, it appears we have no time, so there will be no complimentary service, but don't hold it against me.

What an amazing line. Classic polite Frieza.
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>>381848370
I remember when He would only sleep for 5 seconds.
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>>381852195
Not canon
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>>381851753
yeah both are getting in no matter what, 16 always got over 17
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>>381851789
for one, i think they retconned that to be bardock somehow when he time traveled to fight frieza's midget ancestor
for two, if he's NOT bardock he'd get dicked on by
>any god ki user
>any Z villain past frieza
>gold frieza
>the original super saiyan god
>either of the legendary legendary supersaiyans
>many ayys from other universes like hit or jaco's swole cousin
and would ruin his mystique
you know, like turning him into bardock through time travel
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>>381850426
>XV3
I'm so sorry
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Blue > Red > SSJ3 > SSJ > SSJ2 > shit >>>>> SSJ4
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>>381847332
Dude theres no fucking way that a dude that was weaker WAYY weaker than raditz suddenly jumped to Current base goku form, its bullshit and you know it.
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>>381852637
no problem, autism isn't your fault but try to cope with it before posting
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>>381848370
He would take power naps that last a few seconds, but would also occasionally have to hibernate for a long time.

Even though it's consistent with pre-established lore, it's still a total plot device to bring Frieza back in after the shit show that was the RoF arc. Not only that, but it's also looking like bringing Frieza back is setting up a much larger plot thread for the future as well.
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>>381852583
Idk bruh, if it's golden oozaru that means he's stronger than ssj3, so there isnt a Z villian that can fuck with him.
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>roshi is a telepath
what the fuck
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>>381850908
That's because Blue isn't the "next step" after SSJ3.
It's a SSJ transformation after getting to the SSGSS level, which is basically "acquiring God Ki". That means SSGSS is a new branch that originates from a regular SSJ ritual, nothing to do with SSJ3.

Technically, you can get a SSJ Blue that was never SSJ2 or SSJ3. Shit, Vegeta was never SSJ3; it's a new world once you acquire God Ki. If Beerus showed up earlier, Goku would have probably skipped SSJ2 and 3. Let's say Beerus never showed up: nobody would have known about this whole God Ki thing, so the only logical step was getting over SSJ3.
And that's what they did in GT.
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>It's a Frieza fucks over everyone episode

When will it end with this guy?

At least bring fucking Cell back. He was more entertaining.
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>>381852942
>Talking about autism when eagerly waiting for a game that you can make your BR fan made Saiyans come to life
Okay buddy
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>>381852797
At least he's had decades to boost his power. To this day nothing is as bad as one Zenkai on Namek boosting Goku from 90k to 3 million in the span of an hour.
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Fasha is still best female Saiyan IMO
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>>381852797
Goku was WAYY weaker than raditz and he "suddenly" jumped to current base goku form, as you put it.
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>>381845423
>Was Tien even stronger than Sayian Saga Vegeta by the end of Z?
Most definitely. And pretty much just because of the insane power creep the series had.
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>>381853174
not cute though
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>>381852797
Tenshinhan was significantly weaker than Raditz, and he fought evenly with Base Future Trunks.

Max Power Roshi probably wouldn't beat base Goku, but he could absolutely put up a decent fight.
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>>381853238
Are you shitting me? Goku is the main character hes has been in way more fights and training constantly from otherworld and in the hyperbolic time chamber, roshi been a perv doing nothing since the end of DB, its plain bullsit lazy writing
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I want to watch Super, but the early bits of Super look pretty bad. I hear you can watch the two movies and then start somewhere in the middle of Super. Is that true?
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>>381853160
Slim. We'll likely get the main two or three from each universe, but anything beyond that is wishful thinking.
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Fasha is still best female Saiyan IMO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL1TragLoik
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>>381842361

I'm still mad about that

I want to see more Buu you fucking assholes

The worst part is that they gave the same fucking excuse for Buu not showing up for this as Buu not showing up for Freiza

Like holy shit guys
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>>381853023
when has an oozaru powerup mattered in Z? that ALWAYS fucking backfired somehow thanks to becoming a slow as fuck giant ass target with a massive fucking offswitch coming out of your ass
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>>381853457
Yes pretty much
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>>381853121
I wish beerus would have never came
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>>381853164
At least that's explained as a saiyan power, Roshi is a HUMAN an old one at that and he stopped training since DB and now he's on par with the current DB roster?
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>>381853457
Yes.

Watch Battle of Gods and Resurrection F then start Super at episode 28.
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>>381853595
Where in Super should I start?
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I hope to see more of my waifu in the next episodes
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>>381853540
It helped the Saiyans get rid of the tuffles
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>>381853160
Woops

Posted my oc wrong
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>>381853623
Like episode 35 I think.
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>>381853431
Well, when you have magic plot devices like the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, it doesn't seem that impossible. It IS Dragon Ball after all.
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>>381853616

the power levels aren't nearly as far apart as you think, Super Saiyan God Goku was killed by a bullet from an ordinary gun remember?
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>>381853457
>Watch Battle of Gods movie
>watch Super episodes 16,17,18 for some additional important exposition you wouldn't otherwise get from just watching the movies
>watch Resurrection F movie
>pick Super back up at episode 28

While the animation can still be hit or miss from here on out, this allows you to skip the absolute worst moments that have been meme'd to death. While the movies and Super arcs differ a bit, to date there shouldn't be any inconsistencies or plot holes should you choose to replace the arcs with the movies.
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>>381852974
I'm so fucking sick of Frieza
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>>381853795

also Farmer with a Shotgun is canon stronger than everyone.
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>>381853383
Tenshihan was training all this time it was shown in the Android saga and the cell sage and even during the Buu saga he was training and still couldn't put up a fight, so now you're telling me Master Roshi an old ass Human did decades worth of training and is just as strong as the Super roster? if he is then he needs to tell the goku and vegeta and the rest of the cast because they can be stronger than the rest of the universes in no time at all.
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So is the entire Tournament of Power going to be Frieza's "Namek will blow up in """"""""five""""""" minutes" kind of speed only longer?
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>>381853895
Same, he's becoming Broly tier when it comes to characters shoved into everything
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>>381845423
>>381845423
Tien held down Semi-Perfect Cell.

That's SIGNIFICANTLY more than what Piccolo and the Androids could do to him, and Piccolo was kicking 2nd Form Frieza's ass, even before the Kami-Fusion. After the Kami-Fusion, which put Piccolo above SSJ Vegeta (at the beginning of Cell Saga), Piccolo still couldn't hold out against a Fed Imperfect Cell.

So yeah, Tien had definitely grown stronger than SSJ Vegeta, at least during Cell Saga.
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>>381846836
>roshi has been doing secret training
I'm sick of Toriyama's bullshit excuses for power level jumps
>lmao frieza's been doing secret training and is now amazing
>lmao Android 17 has been doing secret training and is now amazing despite is future counterpart being a shit ton weaker than him
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Why do people give Mystic gohan a lot of shit when the same thing happened with Vegito, twice
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>>381853895

yeah I feel like he overstayed his welcome a hundred times over.

He was introduced as some amateur crime boss, granted an alien one that was supposed to be just a sample of how powerful the other races were.

Suddenly he's become the end-all be-all of villains which doesn't really make sense for him.
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>>381853895
Get over it.
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>>381853748

/m/ should be /g/ since they have robots and shit
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>>381853748

/v/ is only suppose to have one furry and where is the australian with 500 ping?
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>>381853748
How the fuck is universe 11 /lgbt/?
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>>381853795
is that supposed to make it better? Super is trash lol
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>>381853997
Broly at least has the decency to stick to games or outright non-canon stuff like his 4d movie.
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>>381853130
cell probably would have been better he actually likes to fight.
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>>381854116
>They all wear faggot uniforms
>Clown god looks like he wants to fuck Toppo more than his best girl angel.
>Best fighters name is literally Jiren the gay.
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I am going to cum buckets to Frieza's beatdown on Caulifa
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>>381854007
>and Piccolo was kicking 2nd Form Frieza's ass
no he wasn't. Freeza was mostly kicking his ass and he was barely holding on. And then he went third form and it was a curbstomping.
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>>381853762
you can only go in the chamber 3 times in your entire life
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>>381853616
>is a human

He's immortal (if he doesn't get killed), he doesn't age
They say it in the first tankobon
Also he eats magical stuff that gives him youth-tier energy
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>>381854019

it makes for better video games I tell you whut.

Otherwise every game will just be Gogeta vs Vegeto
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>>381854232
Cell is a little bitch and ragequit trying to kill himself along with Earth just cause he was losing.
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>>381854019
Let's be honest here, Future Android 17 did literally no training and only did stuff for shits and giggles.

We also have no idea how androids work when training (do they power up linearly, get a zenkai type boost, get no actual boost) since we never saw them train in Z... ever, or really if there's a limit to the energy absorption shit.
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>>381853652
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>>381854247

Then Kale slaps Frieza's shit

Either way feminists win
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>>381848118
17 is really popular and people wanted him back, he's an uncucked Vegeta, will be an asshole to you but will respect if you earn it, he doesn't suck up to anyone like Vegeta does.
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>>381854291
I don't even think they care about that limitation anymore.

Vegeta's been in it like 5 or more times already.
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serious question which is worse GT or Super?
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>>381854247
Bitch is gonna job in the most hilarious way.

18 is gonna snap her arm in half like she did Vegeta.
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>>381854435
Feminists, the third wave ones you're talking about don't have the goal to actually getting equality or anything even similar to that.
They're just a bunch of rich modern aristocrats that found a new way to beat the prole to a pulp and get away with it.
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>>381854432

DELETE THIS

SHE'S PURE
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>>381853967
>5 minutes on Namek lasted from 97-106, 9 episodes
>ToP is 48 minutes long

Using the Namek time scale the Tournament of Power should last us 86.4 episodes. Hope you all brought popcorn.
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>>381854435
>Then Kale slaps Frieza's shit
Aint going to happen. A joke character like Kale is reserved for someone like Roshi.
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>>381854346
Frieza tried to rage quick by blowing up Namek and Earth..twice
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>>381854097
/v/ is overwhelmingly furry nowadays.

I'm not complaining, they're not obnoxious about it, but you can find that most people will agree that a thick animal woman is something worth sticking your dick in.
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>>381854042
Cell would have been refreshing.
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>>381854627
>kale and roshi trying to out SWOLE each other
I'd love it
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>>381854270
No, Manga Piccolo definitely had the upper hand, and everyone recognized it - Frieza specifically said he was going to change forms again in order to beat him.
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>>381854649
Except Frieza knew he could survive blowing up them and he did.

Cell literally exploded himself not knowing he would live.
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>>381854549
GT didn't make Goku into a universe-destroying retard who's never kissed his own wife.
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>>381851124

what is even going on with that that terrible lifeless animation
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>>381854874
Worse, GT turned Goku into a little Mexican kid.
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>>381854549
As a whole?
GT so far, if only because it's ideas held a lot of promise and it squandered them all with god awful execution.
Super could still take the title depending on where it goes before it gets cancelled, but so far gets a pass because overall it's merely been mediocre in damn near every aspect.
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>>381854649
Cell rage-quit by self-destructing.

Frieza decided to stop playing with the handicap: "Beat others without blowing up the planet" and picked the easy win since he can survive his explosions and the vacuum of space.
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>>381854549

GT isn't bad it's more like a well done fanfiction, people were more mad because they didn't want the series to end in general and GT was a little anticlimactic.

Super's existence confirms that Dragon Ball as a series has transcended to the new model of cash cows and will likely never end in any of our lifetimes.
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>>381855048
>before it gets cancelled
Shits too popular for that.
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Super has even worse art and battle choreography than GT, and GT was pretty much unwatchable even when I was a kid...
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>>381855114
>Super's existence confirms that Dragon Ball as a series has transcended to the new model of cash cows and will likely never end in any of our lifetimes.
i wonder if they'll ever hit the point where they've gotta soft reset
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>>381847449
I don't understand this. By the end of Z Piccolo was at least as strong as Android 17, which makes him stronger than Namek saga Frieza, but now one of Frieza's henchman is stronger than Frieza was? How is this possible?
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>>381855207
Until Super sinks to this level, GT will forever be the worst Dragon Ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwoaTeGSlLg
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>>381855404
That "henchmen" is Captain Ginyu, and had been training with Frieza while the later was mastering his gold form.
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>>381855207

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX1BFiLgcpc

people mostly hate GT's english dub, the Japanese version is much more kino. (and no that's not just a meme, they changed a lot)
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>>381855274
Probably not. There's too much development regarding characters who aren't Goku to throw away.

Though if they ever wanted to, they have in-universe options to perform soft or even hard retcons, with Zen-Oh and the Super Dragon Balls.
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>>381855048
Super ain't getting cancelled any time soon. It's Toei's second most profitable IP domestically behind One Piece, and most profitable IP overall globally. It's unbelievably successful, to the chagrin of some of the fan base.
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>>381855501
the henchman is tagoma, who's a top lieutenant in the post frieza frieza force who fell for the same frog trick as bulma did and got CHANGE NOW'd
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>>381855114

>and will likely never end in any of our lifetimes.

If that ever happens I'll be happy to say that I lived and died watching Dragon Ball
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>>381855163
Now, yes, but Toei will keep it running until they've milked it bone dry, no matter how long that is. Super is not a series that will get to end on it's own terms; the best we can hope is that when it does die off, it holds enough popularity until it can finish at the end of an arc so we don't end up with them going from mid-arc shenanigans to endgame in two episodes because they want to rush out it's replacement asap.
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>>381855410

the worst episode of dragon ball GT > the best episode of One Piece
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>>381855410
>He didnt love that
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>>381852797
>suddenly
It's been like 40 fucking years

What is it with you people who think Roshi can never raise his powerlevel? Every single other character can train for 40 years and be at least Namek level but never Roshi? That's fucking stupid.

Roshi got stronger over the last few decades, you're just going to have to deal with it.
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>>381853895
Guess who's the main antagonist of the next arc.
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>>381856031
While this is true, I don't see what it has to do with... well, anything.
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>>381856342
The Grand Priest
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>>381847128
>overcame his perverted desires
4chan could learn a lot from Muten Roshi, too bad you degenerates will never resist your love of cock because of traps and futa

the real life mortal level is so low because you idiots spend more time looking at port and less time gaining muscle
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>>381856031
Bullshit
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>>381856342
Dr. Gero
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>>381847231
You better take this guy seriously he shares the same CV as a certain moral guy /v/ loves

Jiren is grey
Justice is blue
omae wa mo shinderu
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>>381856342
Jackie Chun.
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>>381856201
It's actually only been 18 Years in Dragonball Z from Raditz's appearance to Golden Frieza.

You're right other than that though.
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>>381847128
Why the fuck would he want Saiyan monkeys when there are those girls from U2 or that cutie from U4?
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>>381856656
I also want to add that the Roshi haters always cite his 137 powerlevel as if it's his absolute upper limit, which is retarded because that reading was taken while he was relaxing at his beach house.

We've seen him go super buff and the Z fighters can raise and lower their ki at will, but nope, not Roshi apparently. He's locked at 137 forever in these peoples minds for some reason.
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>*teleports behind you*
>"pssh get lost kid"
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>>381856826
KIERO
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>>381856656
I think he means between the start of Dragon Ball and now. Goku's like 45 or something.
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>>381856721
>a yardrat
It's the little things

I remember Goku and Vegeta saying they knew all kinds of weird tricks and Instant Transmission was just one of them, the only one Goku had time to learn. That little fuck better do some cool things.
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>>381856826
JIREN THE GREY? MORE LIKE JIREN THE GAY!
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>>381856721
>That lazy ass Yardrat design

I like how they looked originally, I mean I guess it's another universe version so it doesn't have to look the exact same but part of me feels like they dumbed it down for those cheap Taiwanese artist Toei hired for super
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>>381853130
>cell
>more entertaining

i guess, if you enjoy mediocrity.

ironically enough, imperfect cell was the most perfect form of cell. he actually felt unique before his final form turned him into a generic force of nature.
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why were these weebs invading /v/? Go back to your shitty containment board
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>>381856909
Why the fuck is it in U2 though? Shouldnt it be U6?IT should be a universe skipper. Goku cant do that.


Who do you guys think the last two U6 member are? I bet one is a super strong earthling that is only in thanks to Beerus' wish. That pig guy looks like he's from the planet that Beeru only half destroyed in the first episode.
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>>381856342
Garlic Jr.!
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>>381857176
>filename

Well he is immortal but his PL would be too low for it to matter now unless Deadzone let him pull some asspull hax
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>>381855048
>before it gets cancelled
That faggot Toriyama better bring Launch back before that.
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Beerus is a DBSuper character
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>>381857279
>years of meditation :)
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>>381856908
Oh, that would make sense. Yeah Goku's 44/45 now So are Krillin and Mr. Satan
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Calling all weeaboos, which subs are the best for Dragon Ball Super?
I'm gonna cave and go ahead of where the dub is because it's like 3 sagas behind at this point.
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>>381857279
>>381857415
You see, Garlic Jr. is not canon, which means that in universe 6, there is a garlette Jr. that is a fuckton more powerful and also immortal.
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Take your anime trash discussion to >>>/a/
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>>381857103
One of their techniques must enable them to teleport between universes, maybe? Who knows. We've seen the GoDs can help their minions travel between universes so who knows where that little guy came from.
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>>381856721
Is that Morrigan?
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>>381857445
Only chronologically. This isn't even counting the years he's spent inside the Time Chamber.
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>>381843167
I want Kid Buu in.
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>>381857538
Actually anon, this thread is for the new fighting game Dragon Ball FighterZ. You may have heard of it.
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>>381857474
Official subs.
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>>381856401
Boy take that out yo' mouth.
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>>381857707
It would be if we were discussing the game but people are just talking about the anime.
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>>381857176
I swear one of his dub VAs voices one of the catfish beastmen in FFXIV Stormblood. As soon as he started talking my mind went right to Garlic Jr.
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>>381841106
I'd argue Hit has a good chance.
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>>381857474
>2017
>dub is still way behind

I heard the ratings for it are shit because of that.
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>>381843167
Ever heard of fucking Masenko?
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>>381857875
You think this is bad? here in brazil, the guy that did the goku's voice did quite a decent goku.... except he started to use his goku voice on EVERYTHING.
Bob the builder, bear grizll, fucking cake boss of all things, you name it.
Lucky he didn't used it to spongebob.
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>>381858019
It wouldn't surprise me, the last english episode was Goku and Vegeta turning up on Earth from Beerus' world to fight Frieza.
The sub is something like 72 episodes ahead, about 16 months at one episode a week.
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>gotenks didn't beat buu
>vegito didn't beat buu
>gogeta didn't beat shenron
>vegito didn't beat subarashii
>kibito kai lol
I'm going to appreciate gogeta for beating janemba here, so that the entirety of fusion isn't a joke.
now, which of these are going to get into fighterZ?
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>>381858097
Oh, I don't think it's bad at all. I just find it funny that a cute little fishman sounds like an eternally butthurt immortal demon midget. Though despite any other differences, their height is about the same at least.
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>>381858198
And there's talk of "seasons", meaning there could be a break between RoF and U6 arcs, even further putting the dub behind the subs. I really hope Funi isn't that retarded. There's no need to take breaks to catch up on recording since the pace is only one episode a week, not five new episodes a week like the old Toonami days.
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>>381858345
SSJ3 Gotenks is probably a lock

Popular enough and has some of the best potential for a unique moveset, and gets Trunks and Goten out of the way with only one roster slot
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>>381858372
The BR case is also quite amusing, because you just CAN'T stop hearing goku speaking everything.

"Can we fix it?! yeeh! Can we build it?! yeeh!"
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>>381858345
None of them
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>>381858505
And I can't find the official sub anywhere in HD but crunchyroll at the moment which I'm too poorfag to have a subscription to, unless it's up somewhere else on torrents and just poorly labelled.
Are HorribleSubs copying the official ones or doing their own? If the latter are they any good?
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Special Beam Cannon is going to look so fucking good in this engine
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>>381858505
>five new episodes a week

they should do this and catch up. I don't get how in 2017, the dub can't come out on the same night as the sub. Simuldub Dragonball Super would be amazing.
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Is it going to be dubbed to Latin American Spanish though? Come on, make it happen god, just this one time. I cannot fucking stand bitch Goku from the Jap or American dub.
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>>381858819
If you don't wanna download the episodes you can watch them on Crunchyroll for free, you just have to sit through ads. You could also just sign up for a free 14 day trial so you won't have to deal with the ads the entire time, marathon the series, then just deal with the ads to watch the newest episode every week.
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>>381843348
>STOP TALKING ABOUT VIDEO GAMES, YOU SHOULD BE SHIT POSTING ABOUT NINTENTODDLERS AND SONYGGERS
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>>381858821
>Calling assists to cover you as you hold the Special Beam Cannon input, charging its power
>If you hold it for long enough it's unblockable
>The teleport mechanic makes this incredibly difficult to actually do, unless you get a good setup off a snapback
>When someone pulls it off in EVO Top 8
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>>381858575
You stupid silly builder! in 5 minutes, every single road on earth will be destroyed and NO ONE will be able to fix it!
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>>381857757
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>>381859271
Early 2018 isn't early enough god damn it
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Is Super canon?
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>>381857526

And for some reason its a girl, enjoy
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>>381840991
Won't be hyped till FighterZ 2. Because the roster will be trash
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>>381859609
for all intents and purposes, yes
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>>381856031
Even you know that's bullshit
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>>381859771
>Fighter Z 2
I think you mean Super Dragonball Fighter Z.

DBFZ will launch with no Super characters besides ones that technically appeared first in Z movies (so just Beerus and Golden Frieza). Super DBFZ will add 4 or 5 Super-specific characters. They'll make a big deal out of it.

It makes perfect sense. Sell the game knowing that all Dragonball Z fans will get it, then when you release the expansion that everyone still into the game will get, you push Super with THAT version. You get that install base from nostalgia and then force your new shit into the thing.
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Any idea when we're getting new character reveals? Future Trunks was a given, and Piccolo/Krillin will probably be next.

I hope we get Nappa
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>make the perfect DBZ fighter
>Perfect graphics
>Make it 3v3

Why?
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>>381860892
why not?
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>>381860690
I imagine they'll roll out Trunks gameplay in the next month, then drop 2-3 more character reveals as the beta launches; showing off cool stuff that the beta doesn't have while the beta shows the game itself is solid is simple and smart.
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>>381847231
holy shit he looks like a character from a shitty DC cartoon here
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>>381841106

We have Black and Zamasu in Xenoverse 2. This game will be out a year after the beginning of the Tournament of Power. OF COURSE there is going to be a DLC about Super.
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>>381859068
>I don't get how in 2017, the dub can't come out on the same night as the sub.

Pretty hard for an ongoing series with no end like this.

Plus to do that, the studio has be done with the animation like a good amount of time ahead of the release so Funimation has time to dub it but I honestly think Toei is not capable of that.

Funimation does do a same day simuldub for My Hero Academia season 2 which is pretty cool.
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Just got Xenoverse 2 on PC yesterday. Seems kinda dead, or maybe it's just supposed to be empty while I do the tutorial.
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>>381862112
you won't get online until you get to namek
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Super is autismo-trash and DBFighters is going to be trash if they pander to that garbage.

Keep the game DBZ and put character in the game that actually deserve spots. Ginyu Force, Tien/Yam/Kril, Satan, Dabura, etc, etc. People love DBZ, they do not love Super.
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>>381862486
>wasting slots for the whole Ginyu Force
>Dabura
LOL
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>>381850908
I think I would like Goku and Blue more, If they achieved it by gaining Beerus respect and him unlocking their potential ala Great Guru by giving them some God Ki, instead of the pure hearted shit.
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>>381848463
woah, you actually admitted Blue and was lazy. good on you
the first step in the recovery process is realizing you have a problem.
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>>381862486
super is fucking terrible but all of dragonball has been terrible

only important ginyu's are ginyu himself and recoome

dabura never even did anything
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>>381862371
Gotcha. Thanks for the heads up.
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>>381862924

>Thicc loli

Goku is /ourguy/ after all

Too bad she grew up to be a bitch
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>>381848463
>magic pants
>when Vegito Blue is wearing Vegeta's unitard from the Buu saga
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>>381843845
UNIVERSES ARE NOT CANON

TOTALLY FANFIC TIER BULLSHIT
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>>381863019
Pvp is dead none the less
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>>381851654
good list
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>>381860892
To cash in on the marvel crowd now that it's plain as day that capcom is a sinking ship.
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>>381842031
wait a fucking second, it's a 2D fighter?

Wow
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>>381856591
Nani?!
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I'm expecting 18 characters and looking something like pic related

Android 19 could be swapped for Dabura I guess but I like him in there as a meter-stealer

Roshi could be swapped for Mystic Gohan but I'd rather have Roshi than 2 versions of Gohan

Golden Freeza and Beerus are the only things from super, maybe a SSB alternate color for Goku and Vegeta but that's it

>>381863790
2.5D
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>>381864053
>2.5D
You're retarded. It's a 2D fighter.
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>>381864053
Why would Android 19 be in over 17?
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>>381864053
No, it's a 2D fighter. Tekken is a 3D one, Street Fighter is a 2D one.

The difference is in a 3D one you can walk around the opponent.
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>>381864053
>2.5D
Always hated that term, but in this case it isn't even properly used, the game is a 2d fighter because you fight in a 2d plane.
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>>381864174
No reason, that spot could just as easily go to 17. I just like 19 for his potential moveset, 17 is really just a clone of 18.
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>>381850562
>His Hakai was slow compared to the near instaneous one Beerus did
>Needed to use all his energy to do it and was drained afterward while Beerus did it casually

Sounds much weaker to me
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>>381853121
Your post makes me wonder what a perfected SS3 might look like.
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>>381853121
Isn't SSGSS just kaioken which allows your power to rapidly accelerate under extreme circumstances

SSJ is like radicalizing the power level down instead of raising ki dramatically like Kaio-ken. Kaio-ken would go from x10, x20, x50 but SSJ just takes the already normative power level, radicalizes it. So if your power level was 5000, SSJ would just do the math of √5000, and that would be your base power level, which is why it consumed so much ki and was harder to hold onto than most other transformations. I thought SSGSS was just like Kaio-ken where it only made your power level go up, not implode it to the point of spiritual purity, but that is pretty cool if it does work like SSJ does.
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>>381864860
tldr
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>>381864908
I thought SSGSS was a power level increase, not a power level conversion.

SSJ makes it so your level can go up to 150 million, but in the Cell saga they stay that way all the time. Obviously they can't walk around with a level of 150 million all the time, so it would make sense to call it a power level conversion instead of an outright power level boost.
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Why is he not in ?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>381860892
this pissed me off too until i saw the gameplay
for the craziness that is dbz it works very well
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>>381865496
I don't think they'll include movie characters in the main roster. Probably as DLC.
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>>381864053
>2.5D
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I hate Super with a burning passion, yet I continue to watch it simply because it's Dragonball.
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>>381864860
ssgss uses god ki as a catalyst to enhance everything. its not so much a straight power boost (though there is one), but in DnD terms it makes all your ki attacks have a [god ki] elemental modifier. god ki attacks are harder to resist and just being in the presence of god ki has a negative psychological effect on mortal beings. it's also way more cost efficient. say you do a kamehameha of strength 500. it'll actually cost 650, and 150 of that will be wasted . doing a kamehameha of the same strength as a ssgss only costs 515, wasting significantly less ki.
the manga also introduced 'mastered' ssgss, where the same attack only costs 500.1, near zero waste

these numbers are completely arbitrary just to illustrate the concept
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>>381865851
Thanks Doc
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>>381866087
Yeah the wiki also says the form's power level are undetectable to people who aren't able to sense god ki. The whole form seems like the absolute value of SSJ instead of √.

Where SSGSSS is √|x| and SSJ is just √x.
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>>381863459
It's Budokai Tenkachi. I'd use other people for those little side-missions. Hopefully that's not dead.
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>>381845127
This
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>>381842361

I don't watch Super so can someone explain why the fuck they'd resurrect Frieza instead of going with like I don't know Trunks? Or literally any other GOOD guy.
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>>381856342
there will be no main villain, it'll be a timeskip arc that expands on End of Z.
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>would actually train to get as ripped as goku
>wants to fight by default
>no betrayals midfight
>would get gohan even more in shape
>has based wakamoto voice
>androids and cell banter
Tell me why they did not included such a perfect choice
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>>381866619
They needed someone strong to replace Buu and he was available.
If by Trunks you mean the future one, he's unreachable. They considered both kids, but said they were too immature. Who else could've go? Yamcha? Yajirobe?
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>>381866619
None of them want to admit it but they need Freeza's strength to stand a chance.

Goku was the only one who thinks it's a good idea though
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>>381848463
I really never got the hate for SS4.

Goku and Dragon Ball is supposed to be an anime adaptation of Son Wukong and Journey to the West. This is literally why Goku's last name is Son. This is also why Goku (and Saiyans by extension) are alien were-monkeys.

GT had some glaring faults, but the overall vision was concise. They wanted a return to the old Dragon Ball style adventure, and to do that Goku was young again, but they still wanted the DBZ action over the classic Dragon Ball martial arts.

It's only sensible that as the director tried to bring the GT story to a cohesive ending that the next step to unlocking further Saiyan hereditary power wasn't by getting longer golden hair, but really tapping into were-monkey ancestry and achieving an optimal balance between Oozaru and human.

Overall, I still feel that as much as GT "flopped", it many ways it flops a lot less than Super, particularly in the animation department, since they were still working on it during Toei's golden days, right after Z.
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>>381866880
Gotenks? Man, it's kinda sad that Gotenks was a very viable choice to defeat Buu at one point, and was the second entity to ever reach SS3, but Gotenks and just Goten + (young) Trunks in general just get completely sidelined time and time again in Super.
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>>381865642
but really, why do blaziken, beartic, and reshiram have fucking cocks
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>>381866619
>People from alternate timelines are banned.
>Kid Goten and Trunks are too weak+fusion is banned
>Mr Satan and Yamcha are weak shitters
>You need 10 people or you aren't allowed to enter

Goku's literally the only person who's okay with this since he's confidant that Frieza will behave himself since losing means getting erased from all existence. Also he thinks that if Frieza steps out of line, he can just beat him easily. As soon as they met, Frieza almost killed Goku.
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>>381867198
reshiram represents yang, which means masculinity

the others are just furbait though
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>>381867152

Z went to shit as soon as Toriyama lost his nerve over Gohan and had to sideline him for more Goku. Goku is the only character who will ever matter now.
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>>381867281
that's... kind of clever actually
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>>381866851
>Cell is hard to animate
>Cell isn't as popular as Frieza
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>>381867321
>Cell isn't as popular as Frieza

For good reason. Nothing in Z ever topped Frieza's arc.
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>>381867152
Gotenks has a time limit. I don't remember what it is exactly, but it's not 48 minutes, which is who long the tornument will go for.
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>>381867513
I think it was 30 on base, 5 on SSJ3.
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>>381867513
>no potara trunten to avoid the timelimit because fucking retcons
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>>381843167
Does it bug anybody else that Death Ball costs less meter then Nova Strike and You Will Die by My Hand?
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>>381867435
Agreed

As cool as it was seeing Gohan get the big win and how much I liked Trunks and Cell. The android/cell arc was such a goddamn clusterfuck. Main villain changed 3 times and there was constant asspulls to keep the story going.
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>>381866880
>>381866619
>no 16 for an android reunion
it hurts
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>>381851181
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>>381867736

I hate seeing old Frieza because he's such a perfect design.

Cheap Korean slave labor animated Piss Frieza honestly ruins the character for me
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>>381867435
Everything from the crew assembling on top of a mountain waiting for androids to start killing civilians to Android 18 getting absorbed by Cell was tense and objectively great. If you want to enjoy the rest of the Cell Saga you need to repair your relationship with your father.
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Can anyone explain to me why the Gods of Destruction aren't able to fight but will still be deleted?
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>>381842361
I just realized there are 0 new characters from Super to go to the tournament that the entire universe is staked upon. Are the storylines in Super that forgettable that they haven't developed a single new fighter to be on their team?
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>>381868050

I'm not saying I didn't still enjoy the Cell Saga. But Frieza Saga is objectively DB Kino.
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>>381868045
Freeza looked like shit in plenty of Z episodes too though

Z looked awful 90% of the time too, I don't know why people forget this
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>>381846346
>>381846507
>>381846507
>Jiren beating Freiza

Toppo will beat Freiza. I can see him teaming up with Not!Beerus to take down Frost at the same time too.
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>>381868174

nice meme
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>>381868174
DBZ ranges from bad to great
Super ranges from appalling to tolerable
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>>381868125
the first two arcs have been getting new powerups for the saiyans and the gods and bringing fridgy back
the tournament arc was basically just to introcudce U6, which would defeat the purpose of pitting the universes against each other
the black arc introduced another god, godku, and fucked future trunkso up some more because he needs to suffer, but all the interest was from the villains
I mean as far as the earth's z-fighters go they kind of wrote themselves into a corner unless they asspull even further beyond so they basically need to asspull slightly before beyond to get their existing jobbers to close the powergap, which I have a hunch is a big part of this arc's point
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>>381868287
>>381868396
It's not a meme. I only just started to watch super this past week.

>Goku gif
I can cherrypick too, pic related.

>DBZ ranges from bad to great
>Super ranges from appalling to tolerable
I would disagree.

I would say both typically looked pretty bad on average, but super hit's it's lows a bit more often then Z (not by much though), but super's highs are also a good degree higher then Z gets.

>>381868287's example, along with certain other parts of the buu saga, are the best Z gets, wheras pic related and super's other really good scenes look way nicer then that.
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>>381868174

I don't disagree but early DBZ, Frieza saga specifically, still had style before Toriyamas look went comically bad and before the neutered factory line look of Super
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>>381868685

Your cherrypick is a still drawing that isn't even finished...
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>>381845808
>because nips love him
They love making a mockery of him
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>>381845808

NON
CANON
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>>381867786
16 can't come back
He's not human so there's nothing you can wish back.
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gohan has air legs like chun li
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>>381868967
it was in last week's episode you nignog, I just don't have the screenshot saved

>>381868846
I don't agree with this assesment at all, Freeza saga and android saga had most of Z's QUALITY
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>>381869254
I bet the super dragon can do it.
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>>381869090
That's one way nips show their love for a character.
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>>381868125
The new characters are from other universes.
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>>381869254
>can materialize any inanimate objects from panties to icecream to legal tender money to a global monarchy to FUCKING PLANETS AND ALL LIFE ON THEM
>oh shit nigger I can't rebuild a computers that shit too complex
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Holy crap.
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>>381869697
The problem is having THAT particular instance of the android 16 rather than any instance.
But if the dragon can both rearrange matter and READ shit from the past, it's quite possible.
Just get the original chip, repair it, dump the data from the past, rebuild a new body with whatever as only the processing/memory needs to be the same and bob's your uncle.
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>>381869910
A shame they didn't use the Super design.
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>>381869910
Source?
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Should I start playing blaz blue and GG now to get a head start on DBZ or is the fighting system going to be so casualized it won't even matter?
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>>381869980
Fuck you.
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>>381869981
https://twitter.com/dbgame_official/status/879243784063549440
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>>381870016
You should probably play a versus game more so but, I recommended Xrd though.
>>381870057
Thanks
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>>381868125
>Are the storylines in Super that forgettable that they haven't developed a single new fighter to be on their team?
There is literally no new character in Super that is from U7 and is not a villain, the entirety of Super so far was giving new transformations to goku, vegeta, and freezer, plus introducing other universes and their characters.
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>>381849890
Fucking Goku man, even Cell or Dabura have less chances of betraying everyone than Frieza.
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>>381870279
No new characters at all?
What is Bulla and Jaco.
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>>381870565
Jaco is weaker than Ginyu and Bulla is a baby.
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>>381870565
Characters that existed before Super.
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>>381870565
Bulla is from Z and Jaco is from his own manga
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How large are bulmas breasts?
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>>381870294
goku has always been a fucking idiot
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>>381870565
>Bulla
from DBZ.
>Jaco
From his own manga which is already placed in the DB universe.
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>>381870692
Why don't you ask Vegeta, Yamcha
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>>381870654
>>381870645
>>381870619
Are you going to say that Beerus is from the movie and not Super?
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>>381870279
>>381870654

Was Monaka from the spinoff manga as well?
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>>381868125
I don't see why any character introduced should end up as an ally.
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>>381870869
Yes?
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>mfw friend repeatedly tries to convince me to call Beerus "Bills" because he watched the first version of the BotG film
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>>381850149
Animation was shitty because they just wanted to rush through the movie segments and save money for the new stuff.
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>>381871061
How about Monaka or Potage?

What about Cocoa Amaguri? Yurin?
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>>381870869
Dude, they are both literally character not introduced by Super.

>>381870921
Monaka is possibly weaker than Mr Satan.

>>381870952
Never said that.
But what new characters did we get in Super that are from U7, not allies, and are qualified to partecipate in the tournament?
Beerus? He's a God, can't partecipate.
Black? Literally Goku from a different timeline, so he's already in.
Zamasu? U10, and erased(not killed) by Beerus anyway.
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>>381841106
it's fucking confirmed it's covering all generations of dragon ball
please stop with these retarded posts

facebook link here
/ign/videos/vb.59685491632/10154886112871633/?type=2&theater
5:25
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>>381848896
Because the universe will explode if they don't win.
If anything they should've ditched some of the weaker characters for more of the strong badguys like bring back Cell and such
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>>381871473
>filler characters
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>>381871486
>>381871597
>There is literally no new character in Super that is from U7 and is not a villain
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>>381871486
>But what new characters did we get in Super that are from U7, not allies, and are qualified to partecipate in the tournament?
Again, why should they have a new character for that?
The point of the previous arcs was to introduce the concept of different universes and characters from them, and they all came back, but as rivals.
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>>381871597
>Filler
But the anime is the source material.
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>>381851120
there's no way goku would ever use it in a non life or death situation though
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>>381849798
Toriyama said that if Goku is an 8, Beerus is a 10 while Wis is 15.
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>>381849798
people always say this, and i've googled it but there's nothing
are you sure you didn't imagine it?
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>>381864860
> this whole post
You are trying to apply mathematical conversions to a dumb shonen that never cared.
Re assess your failure of a life and curb the autism.
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>>381846507
Screencap me Hit and Jiren are going to doubleKO eachother so you will stand a chance in this tournament
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>>381865851
Danke schön herr doktor.
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>>381847375
>preferring the 30 second fusion
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>>381870279
>not remembering based Monaka and his ponta
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