>"It’s hard to believe that after receiving a mind-blowing

>>381789579
I swore that if Chris took my money and ran, that I'd track him down and mug him to get it back. Looks like I'm going to be paying him a visit.

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Post yfw you got a refund in 2015.

>>381789579
source?

>>381789579
>quoting no one
>no source
Nice bait OP

Hi Derek Smart.

>>381791147
companieshouse.gov.uk

>>381789823
I actually don't think he ran. It's far more likely that he blew the money and there's hardly anything left of it.

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08815227/charges/W3FsufjDb8gTRZZqoCvnEAJKzSk
>Floating charge covers all the property or undertaking of the company.

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It's still too early to say it's shovelware with 100% certainty. But I have a feeling we'll know within a year from now.

>>381791740
Let me rephrase: If he took my money and I don't get my fucking game.


I realize I was a fucking sucker, but that doesn't mean I have to be happy about it.

>>381791924
I think you mean vapor water?

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>>381789579
>taking out UK loans to pay your UK workers because the pound is dropping and it's actually cheaper than paying them out of your cash reserves

wow it's fucking nothing

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Derek Smart was right

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>>381789579
>Post yfw you werent autistic enough to back such an obvious scam.

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>>381792382

4.2 The chargor, as owner with full title guarantee and as security for the payment, satisfaction and discharge of the Secured Liabilities, charges in favour of the Chargee (subject only to the Chargee's obligation to release specificed in Clause 22.1 hereof) by way of first fixed charge, all of the Chargor's right, title and interest (wether now owned or hereafter acquired), if any, in and to the following:

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>>381792382
I bought Elite instead

4.2.1 all copies made or to be made of the Game; and
4.2.2 the Game assets and the Distribution Rights; and

>>381791952
haha serves you right idiot

>>381790876
You still gave money, moron

>>381792127
That's adorable but I always get anxious looking at these kinds of photos, like what's stopping the dog from jumping out?

Can someone post the Offices of Chucklefish?

I remember them blowing all of the money on stupid neon furniture and bullshit.

I don't think Chris Roberts understands the amount of death threats and possibly actual murder attempts he'll receive if he runs out on this.

>>381789579
In order to be competitive in the software world in terms of attracting talent you need those sorts of things in an office. The fact that you think having a coffee maker or company recreational activities is bad or abnormal in any way indicates to me that you're some fat Americunt who has never actually worked at a major firm. This is not to excuse them blowing through $150 mln. I believe that because of the amount of money they acquired they changed the development form from sort of a loose activity in a basement to a more corporate style development

>>381792878
I gave money and got it back with 10 % interest.

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>>381792382

How is it possible to get funded $150M and still need more money? Has there ever been a game more expensive?

>>381789579
I can get talking about them spending money on shit and all that, but using that coffee machine as "proof" is fucking damn retarded. A good coffee machine that can deal with 100+ employees is expensive you fucking retarded

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>>381792382
Fuck space games in general

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>>381789579
I wonder who could be behind this post...again?

>>381789579
>The banks now own Foundry 42 and CiG and demand monthly payments from Roberts

Well, I guess this proves it.

Star Citizen is NOT a scam. It's just run by complete fucking morons and incompetents.

>>381793082
Hollywood celebrities.

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>paying money for a product that literally doesn't exist
Imagine being THIS cucked

>>381793216
No one ever said it was a scam, the scam citizen is a meme/joke. The serious bit is that it's a colossal waste of crowdfunded money

>>381792382
i knew a person who spent over $5k on ships, and he was so delusional he actually thought it was a good idea.

>>381793319
It's like imagining being anthony burch.

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>>381792382

>>381793045
But do you have to spend 13 grand on an expresso machine? Surely there are cheaper machines that do the same damn thing?

>>381793319
dumb frogposter

>>381793385
Same here funnily enough. He was totally convinced he'd make the money back.This was back in 2014 I think? Wonder what he thinks now.

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>crowd funding video games

>>381792127
You're shilling this in every thread I've seen about this so far

What's your agenda here?

>>381793385
Is he a richfag or just a tard?

>>381793385
Plenty of dumb people spent untold amounts of money on this for "exclusive ships" and other virtual shit while the game itself isn't coming together at all.

>>381793487
>>381793385
Requesting pictures of the forums of people spending thousands on 'ships'

>>381792127
that doesn't make any sense in the slightest

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>>381792382

>>381789579
When I visit other offices in my company, many of them have these fancy coffee and espresso machines. They let you spend a lot of time to make a really good cup of coffee or two.

By contrast, my office has a simple carafe and grinder, that fills a decent sized pot or two in a single run and can keep the pots warm for a whole day.

The latter cost us orders of magnitude less than the other machines.

Coffee culture is strangely overinflated, like beer culture in startup towns.

>>381791952
Well, you only paid the $15-30 for the game, right?

>>381793491
>ywn have a cute asian gf
just kill me

>>381792918
Dogs aren't actually that retarded anon.
They know jumping out of a moving vehicle will kill them just off instinct. And many can catch on that leaving their master when outside is a bad idea.

>play a game with a group of people a few years ago
>they were heavy into this game and spent a bunch of money on it and had plans all laid out
>i kept saying "you guys know you are wasting your time and your money with that game right?"
>they kept denying it
>lose contact after a while

I kinda wanna find them again and just whip out the "SO HOW ABOUT THAT STAR CITIZEN?!"

Should I do it?

>>381793564
I can only hope that one day I'll be so rich that I can squander money on stupid shit like this and suffer no negative consequences for it other than losing money I don't need.

>>381792918
>>381793740
The real problem is: What happens when there's any kind of accident or harsh breaking?

I think the old timer realizes he'll be gone before the dogs in that situation.

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>>381792382
backing anything at all

>>381793673
>When I visit other offices in my company, many of them have these fancy coffee and espresso machines
Yeah, they're usually like $500 though. Still crazy, but it ain't 13 grand.

>>381793385
How people even rationalize something like that? Who doesn't look at a scheme like they had and think, yea, uh, $2000 for a digital item is probably not worth it, for a game I've never played, that I've barely seen any actual footage of.

But anyways, guys I'm making a game where you can be any size alien you want and the starter packages are $899 if you want to be a queen alien and you can control other aliens and it's a fps but also a mmo, so you can upgrade your aliens and there are vehicles and worlds to explore and also crafting fishing and football.

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>Bought a 180$ ship back in 2014

What the fuck was wrong with me.

>>381793859
I backed Minecraft.

>>381792918
The thousands of years of man made evolution that make dogs do as man tells them.

One of my old roommates and his father backed in the ~$1500-$2000 range at least 4 years ago. I had him explain SC to me, from his point of view. And even with that, by design, biassed description, it sounded like a bad idea. I mean a really bad idea. I mean even the simple 'feature' that if a ship was destroyed, a ship you paid real money for, it was gone forever, why the FUCK would I ever want to play that? That they were selling *insurance* for ships. I mean give me a fucking break. That's dumb as shit. And by no means was this the *only* thing I scoffed at, loads more sounded retarded.

>>381793791
Later, they must still be in denial and rationalizing as much as possible.

>>381793673
>beer culture over inflated
>leaving your coffee for a whole fucking day like it's good thing.
You strike me as just lame.
That being said i hate espresso fancy drinks so I'll take whatever gives me better black coffee

>>381791740
>took money
>cash into buttcoins
>declare bankrupttt

wow.

>>381793791
LOLOLOL omg totally do it bro!!1!

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>>381793740
Doggos are dumb af, bro.

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>>381793598
le hmmmm....

>>381793905
If I was filthy rich, like REALLY rich, I'd probably do it.
Worst case scenario, I lose 5k which would be spare change. Best case scenario (most unlikely one too) I get the little virtual toy I wanted.
It is all about perspective, I guess. What 5k means to you and me might not mean the same to someone who views 5k as something they can toss away like nothing.

>>381794058
>In stock
>As though they'd ever fucking run out

Can i play the modules for free somehow? Do they have hardcore drm or something? I low key want to try it and still think it might actually come out, but i don't want to give Chris anymore fucking money until he has a full game for me to buy.

>>381793984
>black coffee
*tips*

>>381793984
I enjoy fancy drinks like anyone else and don't begrudge people who think differently.

But I find the ability to get a cup at any time and get back to what I was thinking about as more important.

I think it's important to have a baseline of quality and availability and grow upwards from there.
When can get several fresh pots in the time it takes the more expensive machines to make a 2/3 cup of joe, it's kinda ridiculous.

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>>381793791
fucking

mad

lad

This thread upsets me

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>TFW a friend nagged you till you bought a grey market AMD ship edition of the game

Should I demand he repay me? I think I should.

>>381792918
>what's stopping the dog from jumping out?

The Need for Speed

>>381794227
Can only allow so many big ships on a server so...

>>381794416
I think you should.

>>381794058
>literally enough to buy a brand new car
>for a spaceship made of pixels

really gets the ol' noggin joggin'

>>381792918
God.

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>>381794058
>>381794227
>it's not a meme

why does star citizen count as a scam

>>381794416
Oh fuck i forgot about that.
I should have as well.

>>381794090

I can tell you are not rich nor have you spent any time around rich people. This is what poor/middle class people think the mentality of rich people is. Hint: it isn't. Yes they will buy a $125k car even though a $50k car will suffice, but the reasons and rational for doing so is not the same as being flippant with money. $5000.00 to someone making $3 mil+ a year is, by them, viewed as the same $5000.00 by someone who makes $50,000 a year. The sooner middle class people realize this the better.

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>>381789579
>It’s hard to believe that after receiving a mind-blowing USD150,000,000 in crowd-funding that Star Citizen could be in any kind of financial peril

Pretty sure EVERYONE saw this coming

>>381793791
>plans about a game that doesn't even exist
it's like when you were a kid and except now there's loads of money on it

>>381793913
fucking dumbass, and let me guess, you can't refund it even though you've never used it?

Who will finished their game first, Chris Roberts or EVA?

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>>381792382
The only thing I've ever backed was Drift Stage. And I've never given money to another human being since.

>>381789823
Is it still possible to request a refund?
kickstarter rear admiral backer here

>>381794530

Funny part is if they get destroyed in a battle, you lose them forever.

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>>381794058

>mfw I bought a new car last year while other people spent the same amount of money on a ship in a vaporware game

I know $150million sounds like a lot of money, but among many other things, one of the problems is actually that 150milliom is no where near enough to make something of this scope.

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>>381789579
This doesn't mean anything. Rich companies still take loans out all the fucking time for various reasons. It's literally nothing

Game will still probably be shit though

>>381794695
it'll be like the people that invest huge amounts of money on a classic car but it just sits in a garage and gets polished

>>381794553

>If I was filthy rich
>If

>I can tell you are not rich

Gee I wonder how you figured that one out.

>>381794695
Better stock up then, need a few backup ships in case my ship get destroyed and SC's insurance policy tries to fuck me over

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>>381793516
>>381793650

It's the truth. Sorry that them doing a bit of tax flipping isn't as exciting as le ebin Tortanic.

I mean if they were actually in financial troubles they would just have a big sale of hypothetical ships and make millions. No loan required.

So it doesn't even make sense by the logic of the shitposting

>>381794695

What? Bullshit. Surely there's some sort of insurance.

>>381789823
You get what you deserve moron.

>>381794810
Which is exactly the problem. No one asked for a game that needs 1 billion in funds to build

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>>381789579
Sounds like they saw No Man's Sky go down in flames, and got a bad case of feature creep

RIP

>/v/ gets their panties in a knot once a week discussing Boogie's health insurance
>yet they give out their money to any developer who promises not to run away with their money on kickstarter
You people are retarded. Please tell me you didn't vote

>>381794837
but you still have the car, it doesn't vanish

>>381795004
Even from the kickstarter it was clear the game they wanted to make would take that much money. And yes, I want that game.

>>381794837

Actually it would be more like someone buying a 50k classic car, getting it stolen by another collector, and not having insurance/the ability to call the police to get it back/get compensation because you signed an agreement when you purchased it that this type of situation could take place.

This 'feature' is what turned me off the most when I had this game explained to me.

>>381794854

The point still stands, 'filthy' rich people do not think or behave the way you think they do or 'you' would in that situation. They are not flippant with their money. That's how they get so rich. Even buying excess homes, cars, boats ect are an *investment* not just spending for the sake of spending.

>>381794815

Star Citizen is the highest crowdfunded game with $150+ million and yet they're still asking for loans.

The game is also nowhere near ready for launch.

Anyone who's interested in the game should be worried.

>>381793082
GTAV was
almost double

>>381794576

I actually forgot about this game since, I just checked and I still have my account.

Too lazy to ask for a refund though.

Might as well try their game.

>>381794815
The thing is, a loan with your whole company as collateral is still a bad thing for all the backers. If somehow the loan defaults then the company goes to the bank. Guess who paid for the entire value of the company? Sure it might not default but the only money being risked here is the backers'

>>381795187
>They are not flippant with their money

Yeah but I would be. If I won the lottery right now? First thing I would buy is a Switch. Fuck frugality.

>>381794695
i kinda want to see day 1 where all f2p players gank some of them 12k whales

>>381794810
>150milliom is no where near enough to make something of this scope.

Who the hell asked for celebrity voice actors and single player missions?

People just wanted a multiplayer space sim.

>>381795282
Only if you include marketing, and it was released on five different platforms.

>>381794695
>ganking someone with some mates and making them lose 12k

the assblast would be fucking amazing

>>381794837

Even then they'd still be able to sell their car

>>381794968

There is, but that's a STUPID way to go about it. For one, it's antithetical to gameplay. In so creating a situation where a ship destroyed is gone for good, you are, in effect, punishing players for playing. You are adding a *risk* to gameplay. For better or ill, Call of Duty is one of the most played games ever. Why? Because there is no risk, perceived or real, in so doing. In reality it actually rewards risk.

Imagine how people would play COD if every time you died, all the perks and weapons carried were lost forever and you had to either rebuy, reearn, or steal new ones? They would be a trainwreck.

"Insurance" is maybe the *worst* way to handle this problem, as it more or less acknowledges it *is* a problem and instead of recognizing that, they try to 'mitigate' the risk.

The guys that thought that up were *bad* engineers, because you don't design a system that's more dangerous to use than to sit still in.

>>381795282
Yeah but marketing always inflates shit ridiculously high. Actual game dev couldn't have been more.

>>381795429
>single player missions?
literally everyone who backed it originally, since that was the main selling point way back in the day.

>>381795464
>the assblast would be fucking amazing

Yeah, no it wouldn't. For a very simple reason: the game would die ABNORMALLY fast. So yeah you get to do that, maybe once or twice, then people stop playing or doing ANYTHING risky. Game stagnates. Game dies.

>>381789579
They'll never make back all that money even if the game releases. I think they're spending all that borrowed money on stupid shit like espresso machines so they have something to liquidate during bankruptcy so they don't have to give up their personal things.

>>381795554

Isn't that exactly what EVE does?

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>>381794641

You still backed something. You do a shame to fundfags everywhere.

>>381795659
I don't see the problem here

>>381794898
>Hey this currency is losing its value, so I'm going to take a loan out while it's decreasing instead of when it's at its bottom and cheaper because even though I totally have the funds to pay my employees now, I'd rather just accrue debt instead

Please, explain this.

>>381794425
big if true

>>381795282

About 3/4 of that price was marketing as others have said. If you break down costs of most modern AAA games, the dev costs are fractional. Administration and marketing make up the bulk majority share of expenses.

>>381795187

You have no fucking clue what you're talking about, I work at one of the most expensive bars in Western Europe and I've seen people spend over 50k on drinks in an evening.

Or if by filthy rich you mean old money and only people a billion or over, you might be right but still it's 50/50 - plenty of oil princes, CEO's and the like that spend plenty of money on experience.

>>381795554
Nah, you're retarded. The entire point of these games is that there is a risk inherent with everything you do. If you don't like it, don't play. Trying to change the genre to fit fucking cod of all things would enrage basically everyone.

The weird thing is nowhere in the document do they define what they mean by "Game"

>>381795659
I don't care about the game. I care about laughing at people.

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>>381792382

>>381795659

You're implying that everyone is flying around in a 12k ship, which would only be a select few. The backers would stop playing from derriere-damage, maybe, the rest would be normal. EVE is a fine example.

>>381795609

The main selling point I saw back then was a space exploration mmo with a player-driven economy.

That single player bullshit was supposed to be an afterthought.

>>381795823
What bar?

>>381795808

cont'

A further thought worth mentioning:

Software/CS Engineer's salaries haven't increased by much *raw* dollars (as in + how many dollars) over the last two decades, while executives have increased by millions. That's the source of inflated dev costs. A code monkey in 2001 was making ~$45,000, and now somewhere in the $55k to $65k for middle experience guys. Exes were making in 2001 ~$10 to $12 million a year. Now they make in excess (especially for big AAA's) of $20-$22 million.

>>381795554

EVE works fine, also if there's no risk there's no adrenaline for there is no sense of danger present. Like I said, not everyone is going to spend money on ships.

>>381793726
I fucking wish. I donated $2,200 in total. It just seemed like a good idea at the time until now. I am beyond livid, he better not fuck me.

>>381795342
And you'd lose all that money in a year and then you'd be back to living like a rat. Congratulations. This is exactly why you are where you are in life right now.

>>381795940
Eve is full of psychopaths and has a serious problem pulling new players in because of that. Building your business model around them is probably a mistake.

I've always wanted to see the star citizen meme crash and burn but OP has no source. Without a source this just looks like bait.

>>381796000

I'd rather not say mate, but think Saint Tropez-esque decadence.

>>381795940
The difference is EVE's subscription cost keeps out the third worlders. If SC has no subscription model it will eventually be flooded with BR/Russians.

>>381796078
He won't purposefully fuck you. It'll be more like he fell and somehow he landed his dick in your ass mid-fall and kept pumping. That sort of thing.

>>381795282
It was released, unlike SC

>>381795823
>Or if by filthy rich you mean old money

Old money is the only money that counts. If you spent real time near the wealthy you'd know that.

>>381795824
>If you don't like it, don't play.

Wasn't gona. And see how long a game lasts when no one plays.

>>381796078
Well, at least you'll learn a valuable lesson out of this.

>>381796198
They wont be running it on their PCs

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>>381796078
>$2,200
>on pixels
>on promised, unfinished pixels
>seemed like a good idea at the time

>>381789579
These guys don't actually do any work. They just go to an office, drink coffee, and sit on reddit all day.

>>381796171
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08703814/charges/AHMo7d0tVN50wGM-FC6tbyhYlss

>>381796078
why do you do that?
what's so appealing about star citizen?

>mfw bought a retaliator in late 2016

I actually don't have a face.

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How much are you CIGcucks willing to pay for this bad boy?

I call it the SUX $25,000 Fraudster. It's got a size 87 Handcannon on it. It's got 2 Super Large engines. It's got a science antenna(Science Features™ not currently in game). It can hold a massive 14,325 grams of cargo and has space for a pilot plus dog.

I'm thinking a starting price of $225, but I can let you pay more for upgrades.

>>381796136
>And you'd lose all that money in a year

Yeah maybe. Point still stands, though. Nothing precludes a rich person from spending frivolously.

>>381796278
Cry engine is pretty scalable.

Where do they post their progress on making this game? Has there been any progress made on this game in the past 3 years? Have they just been sitting in a circle posting on reddit and drinking espresso?

>>381795554
Elite dangerous is like that and that isn't its problem at all. I have ships that have ridiculous insurance cost so I'm just more careful flying them. But the game is boring as shit because the physics suck and you can't leave the cockpit

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>>381792382
Buyer beware, faggots.

>>381796475
sign me up

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>>381795225
>Star Citizen is the highest crowdfunded game with $150+ million and yet they're still asking for loans
Companies with hundreds of billions of dollars in their war chest still take out loans

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-apple-raised-65-billion-in-debt-2015-2

>Anyone who's interested in the game should be worried
Like I said, I still think the game will be terrible but this loan situation doesn't mean a thing. If anything, it should probably reassure backers because at least they know the company is good at being kikes who know how to save money with loans

>>381795338
>The thing is, a loan with your whole company as collateral is still a bad thing
True, but that's all a company like this has to offer. They don't have a real product or business yet. It's not unusual in the slightest.

>>381796475
Would preorder it for 500$, would not want that this digital item is suddenly out of stock

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>>381792382
>Backing anything in general
Derek Smart is right, smash a coke machine for him

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>they got 200k dollars yesterday
/v/ on suicide watch

>>381796540
No progress really, just new ships that's it.

>>381796078
How does spending 2200 fucking dollars on a video game can seem a good idea at any time?

>>381796078
I did $300 and I'm not worried at all, britcucks are in shambles this loan thing sounds like a legit good idea to save money

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>>381796680
250k dollars to be more precise.

>>381796241

>Old money is the only money that counts. If you spent real time near the wealthy you'd know that.

That is true.

I'm not disagreeing here but you're oversimplifying things if you state that old money never spends and only invests. The whole notion of rich as fuck people wearing worn down clothes and eating cheese sandwiches is anywhere near correct. Maybe a few, maybe even almost half of them in some places but it differs enormously by country and heritage.

>>381789579
Honestly, I have some advice for everyone.

No matter how amazing or solid the campaign looks:

DON'T KICKSTART ANYTHING EVER!

If its successful and comes to market you can buy it then, if not you can be a smug asshole like me with money.

>>381796645
I'm not saying they can't take out loans. It's just that the risk falls on the backers, who paid for everything. If the company is lost, it's not his money he lost.

>>381796278
You think that stops them?

>>381796680
>Oh shit, they're crashing a burning, better dump more money on the fire!

>>381796680
>delusional faggots throwing good money after bad
>causing /v/ to do anything but kek
enjoy paying for roberts new yacht and getting absolutely fucking nothing in return

>>381796680
these people are fucking insane

>>381796752
He likely spent it in smaller parts. At least I hope.

>>381796078
>spending over two thousand dollarydoos on pixels

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>post tfw YOU BACKED star citizen

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Never break the golden rule, an never trust a person who tries to convince you just this one time its OK.

>>381796812
>DON'T KICKSTART ANYTHING EVER!
I kickstarted https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1548028600/battle-chasers-nightwar
and it's coming out this october. (70 dollars.)

>>381796812
Nigga it was like the first big kickstarter how fuckin underage are you newfags

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>>381796680
>400.000 fukin dollards in one day (23rd june)
How did they do it?

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>>381796937
>coming out this october

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>>381796078
He's not going to fuck you, you already fucked yourself.

>>381796937
is it a game that can only be played by kickstarters when it's released?

>>381796915
*36 bucks and 63 cents

>>381796078
Well I mean if you were willing to spend that kind of money on this you clearly have the disposable income, so then you really just learned a lesson.

>>381794553
You're a fucking retarded little bitch of a lap dog.

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>>381792382

>>381796680
>more than 20k $ each fucking day
>even without releasing any shit for a nonexistant game

You can't make this shit up

>>381796680
>This was all a ploy to get people to panic and throw more money at them
>We played right into their hands and built this up
We got rused

>>381797109
No it's coming out on Xbone, PS4, Nintendo switch, and Steam: http://store.steampowered.com/app/451020/Battle_Chasers_Nightwar/
Literally everywhere.

>>381796680
>1,831,516 star citizens
So how many of them are from /v/?

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>>381796078
Wtf anon

> nu-/v/ still thinks there's hope for Star Citizen

Thanks for the money, piglets.

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>>381797212
>We

>>381797218
that's great! So anyone can buy it when they want and they didn't waste their money if the project had failed.

Not backing a campaign is always a smarter option than backing one.

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>>381797212
>we

>>381797093
It's confirmed. I think the fact that THQ nordic came in later in the project helped maybe.

>>381797218
Not gonna lie, looks good. Might pick it up when it goes on sale later on cause I'm a cheap fuck.

Who /notscammedhere/?

I almost gave a harmless 5$, but I saw some derrick smart vids and backed off, feels great.

>>381797493
I never considered paying early for this game (or any game) in the first place

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>>381796078
>It seemed like a good idea at the time

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>>381797212
>mfw you might be right
STOOOOOOOOOP
STOP THIS PROPAGANDA

>>381797435
Is it october? Has it actually released?
No? Then you're a fucking dupe who believes lies.

>>381793463
>expresso
c'mon man...

>>381797131
Nope.
20.
Take your 'inflation & taxes' an shove them right up your ass.

You're a shill.
Conman.
Or just a downright blithering retard.
20$.
Never more.
Ever, for any reason.

>>381791952
this is the part where I laugh at you for being a retard who bought into the crowd funding scam

>>381797670
Tbf (to be fair) not everyone is a dickless sissy that patronizes Starbucks everyday and knows how to spell every faggy hipster drink name under the sun.

Are Early Access games better or worse than Star Citizen?

>>381797624
check on steam or GOG.

I love Star Citizen because no matter what happens I'm going to get schadenfreude when this finally falls, either from the backers or the conspiracy theorists.

>>381796078
well you'd be happy to know that 2,200$ is slightly over 16% of the cost of that coffee machine they bought ;)

>>381796078
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Seriously dude though, that sucks. Hope you get your money's worth.

>>381796645
>Like I said, I still think the game will be terrible but this loan situation doesn't mean a thing. If anything, it should probably reassure backers because at least they know the company is good at being kikes who know how to save money with loans
Do we know how much this loan was? Is there interest? Depending on those numbers, that wouldn't save you any money. I can agree that you could potentially save money if you had a low interest, short-term loan with few payments. I think it's premature to say they are saving money.

I just can't see the sole purpose of this as "saving money".
>>>381795338
>>The thing is, a loan with your whole company as collateral is still a bad thing
>True, but that's all a company like this has to offer. They don't have a real product or business yet. It's not unusual in the slightest.

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>>381792382

>>381795781
Let's say the pound and dollar have a 1:1 ratio right now, and you need to pay £100. That will cost you $100.

Now, let's say you take out a loan with 20% interest. That means you'll have to pay £120. But you pay it off when the pound's value drops 50%, so it's 2:1. That comes out to $60 to pay off a £100 loan

>>381797871

Not him but Jesus Christ man if you don't know how to spell espresso you must be such an uncultured swine I can already tell you're American.

>>381789823 Here,

I'm not >>381796078 .

I spent $250, but if it's any justification I did it back during the beginning of the campaign when I didn't think they'd get funded and thought they'd need every penny. Plus I had a lot of extra money at the time.

>>381795997
The earliest part of the project was basically a Wing Commander sequel.
The MMO came later.

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What happened to the squadron 42? It's the one i'm interested in.

>>381789579
>USD150,000,000
how in the fuck
they could have developed a game by now and all be living with the what they had left over like kings for the rest of their lives AND get the money from actual sales as well

>>381796198
Doesn't EVE have a F2P option now?

>>381798246
That would require competence and hard work.
Much easier to trick a bunch of morons into giving him money while doing fucking nothing.

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>>381798061
Yes, that all makes sense, HOWEVER, the part that destroys this argument is in pic related.

It'd be cheaper to just NOT take a loan out at all if you're transferring from USD to GBP.

>>381789579
Take a fucking business class. Never pay for shit with your own money.

>>381795313
>Might as well try their game.
in 10 years

>>381798091
Oh really, how? The fact we are on an American website? I'm not even him, I just don't care if someone doesn't know how to spell the name of a faggy coffee drink. I know you base your self-worth on your gay "culture" but you frogs can march hand in hand around the Eiffel Tower until you all get blown to smithereens. Yuropoors are nothing to me. All you do is shitpost about America day in and day out because you are obsessed. If it makes you feel good about yourself to know how to properly spell a made up French cafe jenkem analogue then good for you whatever helps you sleep at night Pierre.

>>381798426
>doesn't understand that you have to repay loans, and more than you took out in the first place

I guess this explains why people keep throwing money away for cgi images.

>>381794553
I am not talking about self made rich people who are fiscal with their cash. I am telling about younger people who bumped into money, either by inheriting it, winning it or leeching off rich and accomodating parents.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaJx4TdshFA
They were aiming too high

Beyond good and evil 2 is next.

>>381798416
Actually no it doesn't. The pound could be worth anything initially, and just has to drop a percentage larger than the interest on the loan you took out.

>>381798731
So you're banking on the pound going lower.. Despite every economist predicting the pound to continuing rising.

Brilliant.

Every month, there is someone trying to attack the star citizen project with misinformations.

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>>381798478

>in 10 years

Alternatively he could not wait ten years and instead go and play it right now.

Fucking retards.

>>381796078
Ok I'm sorry but you're a moron.

>>381797738
You have a very narrow market to work with, my man.

>>381798569

>thinking espresso is from France
>having language errors from your native tongue in the second sentence you post
>being this mad

God you people are like a fucking trainwreck, you can't help but watch and feel morbidly entertained at the same time.

>>381796078
Sadly you can't buy intelligence, but maybe your dumbass brain wll learn from its past mistakes.

>>381795781
not that guy but if they loan that money now, they have to pay less back later when the value has sunk even more

pls use your brain

>>381798246
>and all be living with the what they had left over like kings for the rest of their lives AND get the money from actual sales as well
That's a bit of a stretch. It's not like it's a tiny company. The first part is absolutely true though, there's no excuse for there to be no game after $150,000,000 USD.

>>381798731
>betting on the GBP to go down more than 20%

how many lotto tickets do you buy a week?

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>>381793736
>no waifu
She will find you anon, have faith.

>>381798883
Economists predict a lot of things.

UK still hasn't exited the European Union, which once it does will be a massive blow to its economy.

>>381799138
I just made up some numbers to describe the idea.

>>381796760
>>381798101
>cognitivedissonance.jpg

I-I-It's okay guys! AHahaha

>>381796812
>>381797363
Minus the fact that most Kickstarters are set up so that the more people initially invest, the more features will be in the game once it releases. It's a gamble, sure, but if everyone took your advice the Kickstarters that have been successful would likely have been much shittier games. Bit of a double edged sword here.

>>381798894
>spends thousands of dollars
>gets a shitty broken tech demo
>company goes under, SC never releases
>R-RETARDS
man, you cultists are funny

>people give this man money so he can have expensive coffee machines and fancy star trek doors instead of making the actual game

>>381799000
Only a dickless sissy would care in the first place, as evidenced by you.

What country are you from then faggot? You don't have the balls to post it.
Again, all you fags do is obsess over America. American games, American food, American TV and especially American politics.
If you want to see a trainwrreck go outside and get accosted by your muslim replacements. I genuinely hope your family are killed by rapefugees just by virtue of you being European.

Just pick a board and don't come back.
>>>/int/
>>>/cm/
>>>/lgbt/
>>>/trash/

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The game is already playable. The 3.0 version is coming out in 89 days and it's probably going to be at the gamescom 2017 so i doubt it.

>>381794058
If (if) the game comes out, wouldn't that make a huge advantage over other players? What's the benefit, just getting it first?

>>381789579
how the fuck do you blow 150 million in the first place? did they owe russian mobsters money?

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>>381799361
>89 days
When was it originally going to be released?
Oh right.

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>>381789579
Was this game supposed to be the new EVE or something?

>>381799361
>game has lasers
>still have to lead targets that are within visual range

jej

>>381799520
No, the max amount of players in a single instance is smaller than a single fleet in EVE.

>>381799489
>When was it originally going to be released?
>A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.
I'm sure there will be various boards running to Metacritic to give it a 0 user score the second it officially releases though.

>>381793463

For a studio of 60-100 people making on average 5+ cups of coffee a day?

No, there really isn't a cheaper option that will do the same thing and not shit itself after a single day of use. You're talking about commercial level shit at that point and it isn't cheap. Last studio I was in had close to 20k worth of bean machines, kitchen in it's entirety would have been north of 100k.

If you expect people to live there 16+ hours a day, you don't cheap out on the essentials, and that type of expenditure is honestly on the low end of the scale for AAA studios. Last time I was at WETA our chairs alone were like 2k and forget coffee machines, we had baristas and fucking 24/7 table service.

>>381799361
> dat pathetic fps
you realize that 150 million euros and 5 years later all chriss roberts has created is a virtual slide?

>>381799689
>A delayed game is eventually good
lel sure

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>>381799361
July 12th actually.
>>381799489
The mmo? We don't know. Squadron 42 got delayed (the solo game).

>>381799348
KYS idiot

For anyone who is interested in seeing the cafe where the ESPRESSO came from, well, here you lads go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdx3LqWuCaU

>>381799689
>>A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.
>implying
He's taking your money and running.
The only thing funnier is that you're still defending him. Delusional doesn't even begin to describe you cultist fucks.

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>>381792382
never backed any kikestarter scam, never will

>>381799838
>10 cents has been deposited to your account
I bet they pay their shills well, considering how they blow cash on everything else.

Name one 3D crowdfunded videogame that actually succeeded.

>>381799740
>its this coffee nigger still trying to defend a 13k expenditure on coffee when a quarter of the employees won't drink it, and on average a normal coffee drinker only has one cup a day

This is just getting pathetic, you come to every thread and make this bogus argument each and every time.

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>>381799754
Game won't be optimized until it's finished.

>>381799297

>Spend $15
>Get everything
>Play the various Betas
>It's bretty good

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>>381794048
>that tumble
holy shit

>>381799348

Easy there Cleetus, you seem upset. I'm not from Europe - I also never stated that. Besides, you should take notice that there is probably not a single European country where the homocide ratio is anywhere close to a fraction of your shitty, violence infested mistake of a country. Go hunt some squirrels or whatever you do with your inbred family, you dickless faggot.

>>381799348
He's right though. Murricucks speak only 1 language and they speak it poorly. You're pretty pathetic 2bh desu famalam

>>381800019
>until it's finished
so I guess never

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>>381799971
On my PSN account please.

>>381800102
Americans are actually proud of being uneducated and ignorant. It's a strange phenomenon.

>>381799974
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_crowdfunding_projects
Here, you loose.

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>>381799784
>>381799848
I'm not even the same Anon. I don't care if the game releases or not. I'm just bringing in some sagely advice from yesteryears. The Metacritic thing was just a guess at what's likely to occur, though it's a good thing most people know to avoid that site for real reviews anyways.

>>381799740
lmao dude you're having a laugh fucking starbucks doesn't have 13k coffee machines and they sure as fuck serve more than 100 people times 5 a day

>>381800010

This is literally the first thread i've posted in for the last six months.

>a normal coffee drinker only has one cup a day

Holy shit, how much of a no life, no career sheltered man child are you?

Average person would have three coffees a day, easy, creative industries, let alone the games industry? Fucking off the charts man.

>>381789579
Can we all talk about how there is a machine out there which is nothing more than a glorified water heater which retails for $13,000?

>>381799740
>5 cups a day

Wtf nigga

>>381800368
To be fair, it probably really does make a bitching cup o' Joe when used correctly. Absolutely no reason a company like this should be going for it though.

>>381800368
I'd rather talk about a game out there which is nothing more than a glorified tech demo that has made 150 million dollars. And is still running out of money.
That seems funnier.

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>mfw it's probably too late to use kikestarter to make a space game
I could probably make a better game if I had a budget to work with.

>>381800019
> all these excuses
you do it to yourself anon, I bet you were dumb enough to back this game as well.

What if Nokia were to say to everybody: Hey give us money, well then use that money to create a phone we wanna sell commercially in the future, and there's no guarantee we wont fuck you. They would be laughed out of the bank so hard their stock would crash instantly.

This is how you can tell gaming is a hobby for mostly underaged children, manbabies and general social outcasts. No streetsmarts.

>>381794695
You don't lose them forever you moron. If you actually knew anything about the game you'd know that all ships come with and have "insurance" where you pay X amount of in-game credits so that when you eventually do fuck up and die, your shit is replaced.

The CIG team may be incompetent when handling money, but they're not complete chimps as to do something that retarded.

>>381796078
why would you donate that much?
would get anything back if they started selling the game or did you just buy a bunch of ships and shit?

>>381800353
t caffeine addict that doesn't know that there has ben actual research conducted on this for decades

google is your friend, sweetie

>>381800338

>lmao dude you're having a laugh fucking starbucks doesn't have 13k coffee machines

Actually they do you mongoloid, look up clover coffee machines, they're all in the 10k+ range.

coffee is a drug and you're stressing your heart with it every time, you'll die of heart failure if you continue living like this

Will you faggots finally learn to never give money to kikestarter or any crowdfunding?

>>381799740
yeah I guess it wouldnt be cheaper to just buy 100 super ass cheap coffee machines, stack 5 in a row so the output is higher and you'll be guaranteed coffee for ur company for decades to come (which coincidentally will be neccesary for this game to ever get a release date).

>>381792681
I have elite too. Its kind of shit, but at least its a fucking game you can boot up and play.

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>>381794048
i wasn't ready for that one, i don't believe thats a real dog, its gotta be a toy

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>>381800564
I doubt this game is financed by underaged children, manbabies and general social outcasts. with all this money.

>>381800723
When will you stop being a Jew that hordes all of his money, likely pirating games left and right with flimsy justifications?

>>381799740
Hi Chris, maybe this retarded post works with mathematically challenged burgermen, but it doesn't work with EU kings.

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>>381800698
actually, i looked it up before i made that post and they are less than 13k/each

not to mention anyone who drinks 5 cups of coffee a day is probably going to end up in cardiac arrest by the time this game comes out

>>381800102
>>381800251
Ah yes because mispronouncing oregano, vitamin and misspelling aluminum is proper English. Most britfags sound like they have mouth cancer when they try to talk, it's not legible English.

I made a couple of typos and you yurocucks jump all over it because it's all you have going on in your life right now. When your country turns into a caliphate don't be surprised when the bombs drop danger close, Ahmed and Mdembe.

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>>381800353
>Game industry
>Creative
>coffee makes me creative! i need it!
>coffee isn't addictive! lol u people just don't like having fun

sounding real familiar

>>381798061
actually they would have just taken out a currency contract with the bank if this was what they were doing, but surely a genius of international finance such as yourself already knows this

>>381795997
shut up you stupid nig people wanted a modern more deep Freelancer not a fucking MMO for autists

>>381798238
Chris Roberts has kept the entire production staff on NDA about it. They don't post much of anything about it on the official site so there's not much to go on. Chris is banking on Squadron42 completely blowing everything out of the water.

And for his sake, it better. He spent millions on professional mocap work as well as hiring stars such as MARK HAMILL to act / voice act. Squadron 42 better be the bee's knees or Chris is gonna be in some deep shit for the future of Star Citizen.

>>381799279
You don't know what cognitive dissonance means clearly

>>381800963

Shoo Quentin

>>381800908

So all you've done is proven my point that industrial grade coffee machines are expensive?

Good job champ.

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>>381800879
>N-NO U
I wonder who could be behind this post

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Lets just get this out there.

They can't even make a functioning FPS game with CryEngine.

Let that sink in.

>>381800960
> aluminum
I understand that a foreign language like latin sounds 'gay' to you, but you should never be proud of your inbred dialect. And I'm being very generous here when I call it a dialect.

>>381798238
Cats disgust me.

>>381800963

I didn't say caffeine makes anyone creative you sperg, only that the creative industries are 99% fueled by ridiculously long hours, something caffeine helps with.

>>381799309
>it's ok that I buy games that blow hundreds of millions of dollars on advertising but this ones bad for instead spending less than 1% of that on its employees

>>381801197
He really isn't. He's banking on retards giving him money for imaginary ships and never actually finishing the game.

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>>381799412
here is the absolute insane part about this, even crazier than selling polygons of a yet to be released game for 10k dollars:
The warranty of those is 6 months. After 6 months a nigger and his gang come and blow up your ship Chris is gonna rock up and down in his chair laughing.

This game is the ultimate cuck bait simulator.

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>>381801361
>creative industries, let alone the games industry? Fucking off the charts man.
>i didn't say what i just said!

>>381794002
Bitcoins aren't nearly as untraceable as people seem to think. If that's the case, with this amount of money, there's no way they wouldn't get him.

Actually, now that I think of it, are there any laws relating to crowdfunding and embezzlement yet? I could see a good lawyer getting him out of it on the grounds that paying for his living expenses and his own salary is part of what was covered under the donations terms.

>>381801291

>anon is too retarded that he can't even use google before making a post

Just let that sink in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STwVI6_xWqc
They released a new episode 3 days ago.

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>>381796680
Am i blind or is that 152m raised? As in total from the start of the project?

>>381800960
Oh boy am I saddened that I do not have my imagefolder on this pc. I like how you defend yourself by assuming I must be British because I speak the easiest language on earth better than you do (hardly a challenge).

I bet you think all British are professors, ''because they speak English Better'', like in the movies, right Joe?

>>381801220
the point is that a store which specializes in making coffee and serves thousands of customers a day has cheaper coffee machines than a medium sized office making maybe ~200 cups a day

you're welcome senpai

>>381801467
all he'd have to do is pay himself a generous salary. no embezzlement involved, no need to buy bitcoins

>>381801292
Britcucks add an extra 'i' you uncultured, retarded faggot.
You might have known that if they taught you anything besides Arabic, huh Sven?

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>>381800879
>literally giving your money away with ZERO guarantee you'll even be getting a product in the end
Unironically fucking retard. You're better off buying scratch tickets if you're this horrible with your money. Kikestarter isn't an investment.

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>>381800075
IT WAS A TACTICAL DECISION

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DOOD SPCAE LMAo

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>>381801484
Are you trying to argue that S42 is functional?

>>381800863
> use magnetic boots that are able to clamp your entire body mass to the ground
> gun with bullets somehow doesn't get clamped to your boots
this is some technology!

>>381801534
153 millions in total since the start.

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>"I willingly gave thousands of dollars to a project that has taken about a decade to show a buggy early access video of "gameplay"

>>381794506
>spaceship made of pixels
Polygons.

>>381801685
come now, it's only been half a decade

>>381801456

Where did I say that it makes you creative?

Learn to fucking read.

I said was that coffee consumption in the creative industries was off the fucking charts, and it absolutely is.

It's amazing how sheltered and apparently illiterate some of you fucks are.

>>381800863
> spend 5k on pixels for an obvious scam
> not a manbaby or social outcast that is dumb enough to waste his money like that

kek

so why are no sites reporting on this?
sounds like it would be a big deal